The Elk of Astronauts: Wednesday, April 2nd, 2025

36:00I wish for Parchin is like this forever. I wish for my baby to flip. In his own time. Our next story is Morgan Wallen cashing in on the SNL drama. Oh, yeah. And releasing God's Country merch. So yesterday, Morgan Wallen dropped some new merch saying, Get Me to God's Country. It's a t-shirt and two hats. It's actually quite Parchi. This story has obviously become so viral. and he's cashing in on it. And a couple of, well, actually just one story about SNL came out yesterday that kind of answers some of the questions we were having about how there was a sketch that Joe Jonas was featured in. I don't know if you saw, they needed like a musician and it was written for Morgan and he had declined it.

36:41They didn't say that it was like a bad thing. He just didn't want to be in it, which is his right. You're there to perform music. You don't like have to do other stuff. Most people want to do it. He didn't. And that's why Joe Jonas took the gig. so I think that does indicate like a sign of just you know not being a team player if you will I think a sign for me of like I'm here to do the two songs like we're doing two songs I don't need to like be a part of this nothing more nothing less and then when it's over I'm walking out the door and I am starting to feel like the God's Country thing was more so like he didn't enjoy his time in New York City like I don't feel like it was about SNL being godless heathens but I do think the two things together have made it look like like the walk off plus get me out of here makes it look like he's angry at SNL but I actually could see a world where it's just like something that he posted because he missed home and he's been in this big city and that's how you refer to the south like yeah and not like that he's running away from SNL but like he spent a week in New York City and if you don't love New York City like that's a kind of a tough place to be I agree actually I think that it's possible that we are looking far too deep into this although the walk off like was so shocking that and oh and somebody did then tag me thank you the last time he did SNL, what did he do during the credits?

37:51And he did exactly what he was supposed to do. Thank you and giving everyone hugs, like, you know, playing the part. So he knows it wasn't a lack of knowledge. Yeah, and he didn't want to do that this time. So I think like the two things together make each thing seem bigger, but I could see a world where he had no idea that this plus the walk-off would equal like Morgan Wallen hates SNL. Agreed. Do you think we will ever see him on SNL again? Because you would think no after the last time, But he did come back. I feel like, yeah, they said he's fine with the network. And I do think that I don't I think it's possible he didn't have an awful time.

38:23He just like doesn't want to be a part of it more than like doing the job. And I don't think he thought get me to God's country was going to become like such a viral phrase. And I love, you know, taking the opportunity to make some coin. It's very disgraced queen of him. Yeah. And it's really cute merch. And like, yeah, get me to God's country. This is God's country. So the whole thing has just become really funny. And did God's country as a like term for the South, did that exist before Blake Shelton's song? I think so. But probably he really popularized it. And now, of course, Morgan Mullins should also do a cover of that song.

39:00Did you see the swirly? I think the big Blake Shelton one is a cover. Just want to say. I don't think it is. Blake Shelton's like always low-key like doing covers. On the mercy riverside getting baptized in holy water and shine with the dogs running. It's such a crazy song. It's a crazy song. Not me like in New York City like at Shabbat dinner singing that song. I don't think he thought it would get that far. Yeah. Saved by the sound of a – like it's so crazy. On a mercy riverside. Like literally me. Yeah. Is it a cover? No. It's hard to find out, but it doesn't look like it. Wait, I had one more thing I wanted to say.

39:44I didn't think Blake Shelton had it in him. Oh, you guys know, like, as a part of my transition to becoming a Gen Xer, I'm watching a lot of programming that Gen X would like, and that includes American Idol. Did you see the girly voice when you were Gen Z? Right. Oh, also, did you see Kelly Clarkson on Kylie Kelsey's podcast talking about how, like, she's talked a lot about how her foray into, like, Hollywood and the pop music scene after American Idol because it was so new, like this competition show. There were a lot of people who were like, looked down on her and very derogatory because she came from one of these types of talent shows.

40:18And she was like, it was just so funny to see people like who treated me like that, then go on to, and she was like, judge the voice. And now people are guessing like who she was talking about. I kind of feel like it was Christina Aguilera. I just feel like they were probably swirling at the same time. Interesting. Yeah. Could it also be men? It could, it could. Like Adam Levine? That was the second most popular comment. And I guess he's just known to be a dick. So like, he's such a voice judge. Yeah. When you think the voice, the voice, but we can't remember them. Correct. And some people haven't judged the voice in years.

40:50Adam Levine, but he's eternally there. Yeah. He's a voice judge. So I don't know if you saw the girly on American Idol who went viral because she auditioned with waiting all day for Sunday night. She literally sang the entire song in a primetime fight. Carrie loved it. Was like mouthing along with words. Everybody's cracking up. and she actually did like a very good musically like her voice was amazing i'm cracking up so many people tagged me in an american vital video of this girl who's the next carrie underwood and i didn't watch it and now i know why they were tagging me it was a great tag that is so okay do me a favor watch it later you'll enjoy seeing carrie like they're and they all know it immediately maybe not lionel i think he was like a little confused that's not his fault luke bryan knew exactly what was going on and it was just hilarious and a great way to stand out that's hilarious lots going on in the gen x community join me um that sounds really fun yeah we we do have a lot of fun being gen x yeah we don't give a fuck you know i am a latin gen xer deny my identity deny me yeah are you ready for our next story yeah which is actually a story i'm obsessed with I don't know.

42:03Like, I have a really warm place in my heart for Kristen Cavallari and her dating life. And if it were for you, I would know none of it. Claudia, this is the cutest story, okay? And I just need you to listen. Because Kristen Cavallari has released a new podcast about her dating life. And she dropped the name of her secret most recent fling. He's like a former NHL player. And so she was talking. Named. Hold on. I'm going to look up a picture. Nate Thompson. I'm on my way. Yeah. So she talked about how they like spent New Year's together, that they were like dating for a little bit, how it was like really good and like kind of like short lived.

42:40But she had like only really good things to say. And then he went on his podcast because he has a podcast too and talked about her talking about him. And actually the way they're talking about each other, like they need to get married. It's so cute. So this is what he said. He said, it's OK. It's fine. I mean, I knew it was only a matter of time before things came public. That's her world. That's what she does. her podcast obviously as you know is pretty big and she talks about her relationships so I knew it was probably going to come out eventually he insisted he has nothing bad to say about Kristen whom he described as a really really good person and a great mom he said oh it was fun she's a cool person we had a good time life is gonna life and it just didn't work out he said they had a lot in common given that they're both single parents to their respective children he said obviously we don't live in the same city so that dynamic changed things but he reiterated that they kind of hit it off but things didn't work out he went on to echo what Kristen had said which was that he went to Nashville a couple of times and saw her I was with her for New Year's we told each other a lot of things in a very short amount of time and we were pretty open and honest about a lot of stuff though the two had a connection in the short time that they talked or hung out he wouldn't have called her his girlfriend he said he would however call her very genuine he said she hustles she does her thing so I've got a lot of respect for her and she handles herself with everything she has to deal with being in the limelight now i just want to like is he good oh he's retired so it like doesn't matter okay he played for the broston bruins the new york islanders and the anaheim now this is a novel i don't know if you know that there's like a very big genre of romance novels obsessed with hockey players they are like i think of all the sports like for some reason romance novels have become fixated on hockey players even I feel like hockey players are not the most famous.

44:25I don't know why the romance community. But it's just kind of assumed that if you're a hockey player, you're really good at sex. Honestly, that's the assumption. Something about the skates. You know how to glide. I don't know what it is. That's funny. And I've actually read one romance, Icebreaker, really good. So I love that this is happening IRL for Kristen Cavallari. It seems like a novel. Yeah, it does. He met her through Instagram. He DM'd her. And then they talked a little bit. And his cousin lives right by her. So they knew mutual people. and then all of a sudden like he's in Nashville visiting her and the whole time that they were like dating but not exclusive or anything like nobody knew but now she talks about relationships on her podcast and I actually like respect her for like naming names you know and like really but waiting till it's over too like so enjoy your life giving real details and then like the fact that he was that he's like so cool with it and like understands that that's her job love has only nice things to say about her like why didn't it work out get back together right person wrong time move for her and I feel like Kristen Cavallari has the most interesting like DM inbox like yeah well he was there are certain people who you would just love to go through their phones and she's one of them he said like grow he watched a little bit of Laguna Beach like when it was on he didn't watch the hills so he said he didn't know anything up to date which is probably good but that he definitely liked her on Laguna Beach he said I think every guy thinks Kristen Cavallari is hot for the most part she's a very good looking girl no I'm smitten and the fact that they're like having these dueling conversations on these random podcasts like it's actually too much it's really cute and it's like so much respect both ways like no I respect you more I respect you more and nobody's he's not mad that like she blew up his spot no he said like I expected it would get out this is what she does she's good at what she does and it's all so respectful like get married ship ship get married ship so i thought that was really cute it is thanks for sharing are you ready for our next story is this four yeah yeah i'm ready it's actually perfect to be the fourth story because the big four beetles are headed to the big screen so oh yeah did you see that mikey madison is rumored to be playing yoko ono i did see that and i like that i've decided not asian i've decided i like her i like her too she's jewish um do you think it's crazy that like she's not asian like i think it's a little crazy no i think she's perfect okay and like people are so sensitive about that stuff these days they've definitely looked through her lineage she must have she's got an uncle she's got something because they wouldn't like do that if there was nothing there yes i think she'll be perfect i actually really like that because also it's hard when your first role you win the oscar like it's very where do you go from here what's your next role every year i could see a world in which we never saw her again agreed every oscars you see someone who you know like we're never gonna see you again like i'm sorry and it's cool if you win it doesn't even matter if you win or you don't win like we're not gonna see you again so i'm glad this is like a highly anticipated casting like the movie i'm not by me i don't give a fuck so here's there's a couple of goodies so barry keoghan is playing ringo star i don't know if we already knew that but it actually seems pretty on the news nose on the news yeah even though i am i saw it on the news i'm a sabreiner um he could play ringo it's fine yeah like the loser beetle who cares paul mezcal will be playing paul mccartney like that's good for the group average agreed and he doesn't have to change his name right he won't be confused on set when they're like paul it's very miley stewart miley cyrus joseph raven simone raven baxter right joseph quinn will be playing george Harrison I don't know either of those people so that works I know George he's the least famous Beatle and I know Joseph he's from Stranger Things and he has like a cult following that doesn't include me but I'm familiar with his game and then Harris Dickinson will play John Legend John Lennon which is the role of a lifetime let me just look up this fella Harris Dickinson oh cutie he was in Triangle of Sadness we saw that he was the one with the model girlfriend and baby girl It's a dreadful movie.

48:29And Crawdads. Yeah, so it turns out - And Kingsmen. This casting is like very much like, it's like yossified. Like they have all, like Paul Mezcal, Barry Kugin. It's all like the girlies. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Even this guy, like he's from Triangle of Sadness. It's all the British hotties of the moment. I guess that's what it should be. It's the Beatles. Because that's who the Beatles were. But you know who I feel is missing from this casting? I don't know who he would play, but the guy who played young Prince Charles, and then was in The Challengers. Like he's so classic. Maybe he'll be like a manager or something.

49:05Oh yeah, I forgot there are other roles in the film. And then of course, I don't know if it's been confirmed that she's Yoko, but it's rumored. No, I only saw Pop Crave said it and then I went to look for a story today and it's not, no one else is reporting it. Oh, okay. But they are whispers that Amy Lou Wood from White Lotus might be cast as Patti Boyd. She's been posting some like Easter eggs of Patti and Patti also had a gap tooth and they do look alike. Okay, I don't, who's Patty in this life? So George Harrison. In the context of this film. George Harrison's ex-wife, of course. Why do we care?

49:38Because Amy Lou Wood from White Lotus. No, no, no, I mean like, why would her casting be of interest? I guess so. Sorry, I also need to say that each Beatle is getting their own movie. This is four different movies that are coming out in one year. Oh, right. So like if someone has an ex-wife, that's a pretty big role in their movie. Okay, totally forgot. And it also sounds like we are the type of people who need to see this movie because I legit know nothing about the Beatles and I actually don't care. I love Amy Leowood. She's great in The White Lotus. And yes, she does look visually mostly because of the gap, but also because they're just like pretty young girls like Patty Boyd.

50:10Yeah. So I hope. I like that. That's that. Yeah. They're trying to make this, I guess, like Avengers, where like every superhero has their own movie and then together they have one big movie. And let's see how it goes. I would give it a chance if it's good. I don't know that I would. That's very big of you, but I have a lot going on. I just don't know if I have enough like time and space in my heart to care about the Beatles. Four times. Yeah. But I might become obsessed with the Beatles from this as one does. Like you did like with Elvis. More, more, more. Yeah. Tell me about George. Maybe you'll have like the Elvis effect.

50:44Yeah. What's your favorite Beatles song? Oh, interesting. Let me Google. Let me look at their catalog quickly. Oh, blah, D. Oh, blah, da. Like that's so classic us. Like a lot of their songs are really annoying. but I do feel like they would have like a couple of pargy ones. Yeah. I do think that when they say, Hey, June, June, June, June, June. Like they slap, they ate with that. It's like, I find myself getting taken by the music. Of course, here comes the sun always makes me think of the parent trap. It might be. Here comes the sun. Yes. Some of these are so annoying. Come together. Like, yeah, not my favorite.

51:20but it's more so like that. There's nothing wrong with the song. There's wrong with like what the culture did with the song. Do you know what I mean? Back in the USSR is Beatles. No, it's Sigourney Weaver. I know. Well, if that's Beatles, I love that song. It's Sigourney Weaver in Heartbreakers. Everybody knows she wrote that song. I love that song. Oh, Let It Be is really pretty. Oh, I agree. Par Jalish. I love Fifth Harmony's cover of it. I'm being dead serious. It's really beautiful. I love the Hebrew version. Oh, also good. Luh-yuh-hey. Luh-yuh-hey. I actually think it's better. I think it's fair to say they have a lot of good songs honestly but they also have a lot of annoying songs like Yellow Submarine what the fuck is that I think that was kind of the what does the fox say of that time honestly I agree and I'm sorry this is not very Gen X of me oh my god Jackie don't let your kids ever find Yellow Submarine we were at the farmer's market and they were giving out a flyer for this Beatles cover band it was a picture of a Yellow Submarine and he was asking a lot of questions so I put on the song.

52:26Oh no. On repeat. Oh no, oh no. That was a hard weekend. I take it back. It's kind of the baby shark of the 70s or whenever the Beatles were. Yeah. Okay. And I think that the Beatles' best song is 4 or 5 Seconds. That's just Paul. Do you think that'll be in his one? It better. Like I think that 4 or 5 Seconds by Rihanna, Paul, and that other freak is literally the best song made in the last like 25 years. Yeah, it's really good. From Wiley, like so good. And that's like the last song Rihanna ever released. And you know what? If that was the last song I released, I probably wouldn't release anything after that either because you're never going to make anything as good.

53:08Yeah. Are you ready for a fifth and final story? No. Kind of the name on everybody's lips today, Baby List. They are sponsoring the fifth and final story, which is a kind of a huge moment for the brand. And for us because we love BabyList. So I knew about BabyList obviously before I got pregnant. One, I know Jackie used it, but also anytime a friend of mine has a baby, like you just go to BabyList, you know that they have a registry there. And so I knew that it was the place for registries, but I really didn't realize for myself. So we've talked about this a little bit, like culturally, just like we're not the types of girls, we're very superstitious around pregnancy.

53:44So we're not having our nurseries ready to go by the six month mark, like some of these girls on TikTok, I'm so jealous of them, but we just don't do that. So I have, but I found it like very overwhelming, like the things I'm going to need. And like, I'm very organized like that. I have like OCD. And so BabyList has been amazing for like creating checklists and just like getting myself organized so that when the time comes, I can order everything from BabyList like at once. I just think it's literally become my new favorite app to scroll on, like move over TikTok. It's me and the BabyList app.

54:10So it's basically a one-stop shop for making it feel easy to prepare for having a baby. Obviously, there's nothing easy about what's about to happen. but baby list really does help when it comes to like the mind games you know yes and it also helps with like the people asking what do you want like not only do I not want to tell you I don't want to answer your text message here's the link to my baby list so that I'm getting only things that I want and need and not extraneous items that I don't want and you know what they had a feature that I thought was so brilliant when I was buying a gift for um my friends Nikki and Jordan it gave you an option do you want this person to send you a thank you note and I was like no people should not have to send thank you notes at this time in their life like so crazy it's it's such a brilliant i was like oh my god everybody needs this it was really they really think of everything and there's a reason why it's the internet's favorite registry you can add anything from anywhere find the best prices and keep track of everything it's super easy and helpful get the best brands from a place that you can trust and let your friends and family find the best prices anywhere it's a go-to resource for growing families it is so much more than a baby's registry with an interactive checklist and shopping guides and expert reviews with real parenting advice their universal registry lets you add anything from any store so everything's in one place which is also kind of crazy like that you can literally register for anything no it's amazing you get that little add to baby list button on your bookmark bar and you go to any website hit add to baby list like you could be at shop toastmerch.com adding to baby list just saying so i also feel like it's really good for research i was talking about like my stroller dilemma and being able to like read reviews and then like learn about different strollers um baby list is super helpful for that and like managing and keeping track of all of it so again while i haven't Actually, I have purchased two things now from BabyList because I am getting a little bit further along.

55:49So I have started like the purchasing very slowly, very slowly. But like weeks and months ago, I really downloaded the app and like started cultivating my vibe. I was like making little like graphics of like what my room could look like. Try not to get ahead of myself, of course. But BabyList has really just been like a fabulous resource for me. So whether you're like a superstitious person or you're somebody who wants to get it all done day one, really BabyList is the perfect app to have downloaded on your phone. So go to babylist.com slash to toast to start your registry for free or to find your friend's registries and give the best baby gifts.

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57:42I mean, who could know such a niche reference? I didn't even know it. When she posted the quote that said, narcissism is not something to be coddled or encouraged in a since-deleted Instagram post Tuesday. She said, quote, I post quotes all the time and thought this one was meaningful. Will fully cop to the fact that I did not do any research on where this quote came from, nor did I know of the connection until it was pointed out to me. I have no intention of inserting myself into a news cycle. Who would, literally, who would want to be a part of this? She said, this is not the first time I've posted about dealing with narcissism and it probably won't be the last but next time I'll be sure to clarify its origins first I don't even think next time you need to do that like what are the odds this is so crazy so crazy I actually like her statement I feel like as best as she could backpella out of this she did and she also like didn't set she didn't get into picking sides of Joan or Rachel she was like no and I actually believe her which is why this is like easy for there's no it's so how did people even put together that this was related like I would never have known now I would have loved for her to insert herself like wow does she hate Rachel Zegler what's the tea but I believe her that like seriously she wanted no part of this this was not like a big statement she just is like a quote card girly and sometimes you quote card a little too close to the sun no it's really true and she backpedaled out of this like as best as she could I think her statement really yeah like I understand I don't think it was a slight at Rachel Zegler no I definitely don't yeah I just want to know the person who took a quote from Jonah Platt's like what inspired them to make it into a graphic they must have really resonated with it people really get read it again narcissism is not something to be coddled or encouraged it was imposed over a bouquet of flowers.

59:27Is that like a relatable? People are really passionate about narcissism. Yes, it's like kind of one of the hot button therapy words. Especially on social media. It's losing its meaning. It is losing its meaning, but people love to like accuse other people of narcissism. People who have dealt with narcissists, both real and imagined, are constantly speaking about it. So like she said, I will continue to post about narcissism, but I'll be sure to clarify the origins next time. And like as she talks about it, like it's, you know, like racism. Like it's like an, you know, like a cause to be. Do you know what I mean?

1:00:01I will continue to post about anti-Semitism and narcissism and bigotry. Like she's acting like it's one of those isms. It's not. But I guess it's something that's really affected her. And to be honest, like this is quite funny of her. It's hysterical. And I do believe her. I want to say I believe Ariana. Yeah. Like this isn't. She has like a couple of demerits, of course. This will not be just one. Just one. But this actually is in the pro column because it's a hysterical saga. Yeah. And I truly believe just like an Instagram faux pas. It's true. Like nobody researches quote cards. You just like literally pick them up on the side of the road.

1:00:41Yeah. And if you like the one line, it's like even if you didn't agree with what was on top or below, like you didn't see it. Like narcissism is not something to be encouraged or coddled. Okay. Jackie loves that Instagram account, Third Eye Thoughts. Like, do you know where all of their quotes are sourced from? No. Well, no, but I think that they're the originators. I do. I don't, actually. Interesting. I think they pillage BradyQuotes.com quite a bit. Interesting. Well, they're curators. And that's a job. Beautiful. That's valid. That's valid. That's real. A thousand percent. So, Ariana, thanks for the lols.

1:01:16Truly, I enjoyed that. And I'm glad that, like, the Jonah Platt conversation is continuing because that was seriously like one of the funniest things yeah now let's dive into the tv recap part one of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion was on last night and it's a tale of two couches and the right couch just like is obviously my preferred couch but they also are just like a real team and unit and like the left couch is just falling apart at the seams like it's so messy Kyle doesn't even want to be on the left couch it's like she would love to be on the right couch except like she completely ruined all of her chances of being on the right couch with everything she did this season yeah and so really garcelle has been the the focus of this first part and i think watching her break for lunch and being like i had no idea i was going to become like the garcelle show she really didn't know that like she had like rubbed so many people the wrong way and i think it's becoming increasingly clear to her that she's on this island alone and for a while she was on an island alone with sutton and that was okay and now sutton has sort of like jumped ship and garcelle's trying to bring her down with her being like well you said this off camera and like like nobody cares yeah no I think like Sutton and Garcelle could still like be friends Sutton doesn't want to not be friends with Garcelle but she's like not gonna take up for her with the other girls unless it's Sarit um whose friendship she still wants so really like Kyle she's just not gonna be there for her so and Garcelle has only done that for Sutton so of course resentment is gonna build and I think it's interesting how the whole season everybody's accused Boz of being Dorit's mouthpiece and I actually haven't felt that way at all she definitely likes to read best and like defends her friend.

1:02:45But I've never felt like she was speaking for Dorit. I did feel like last night at the reunion she was being a little bit of a mouthpiece, but I liked that she felt emboldened. Glinda emboldened him to, like really, she didn't give a fuck. Like she was like ready to like throw down at her first reunion. Well, that's what the reunion is for. And I think that's why this one is so good even compared to the season is because like we're just speaking plain now. Honest, yeah. Like I'm gonna ask you a question, I'm gonna get the answer. I'm gonna ask you your opinion and you're going to tell it to me.

1:03:12Whereas on the show, everything is like you know there's a million lunches and a million side conversations and this one meets with that one and it's like let's lay it all out on the table and these are opinionated and thoughtful women so like they have a lot to say and I was feeling like everyone was so well spoken in defending themselves or explaining themselves and but then the next person is like well you know is cutting that down I'm like well that makes sense too and that's why it was a really good reunion even in Dorit talking about her divorce which like isn't controversial in the group really I felt like she was doing such a good job of explaining where she's at but it's so weird how she's like separated from PK they could still get back together like that's her family but also like for her job which she will need if they divorce like she kind of he's her enemy and they're like talking so poorly about each other how do you get back together after that I know and when they announced their separation like I really thought it was like fake I thought you know storyline like drama of course they're gonna back together but it's become increasingly clear that like they have real issues and I also was really bothered by um Kyle like the whole Kyle PK thing like she will not see how she's wrong in that but I'm glad that Andy was like you know you really shook the community when your first response to hearing that um PK was like this monster who like verbally abused his wife was that like you couldn't say it and she really like didn't I don't feel like she was held accountable enough for that I was like one of the worst things she said all season long um I just well when she explained herself and she was like um you know you could come on here and say anything about your husband and get people on your side because it's only your story that we're hearing um which is actually true I could see someone doing that and that would be wrong however is that what you think of Dorit this person who's been your friend for over five years and your best friend at times you really think she's that sort of person that that's what's more jarring not the idea that someone could do that because actually I'm sure people do that and we never hear from the husband and they just get dragged through the mud and we're Like, yeah, women.

1:05:01It's true. But that's what you think of your friend? Why is that your friend? And then them being like, you blew up his alcoholism. He had shared it. Like, maybe not on the show, but he shared it publicly on social media. Like, they were really grasping at straws. And what's so funny is if Dorit, like, had been cagey about it. Dorit's not opening up. Dorit's not real. Dorit doesn't share. Dorit tells everyone when she speaks to them about her divorce. You're exploiting. They just hate her. There were two, like, kind of gasping moments. and they both were directed at Garcelle, which I actually felt bad for.

1:05:31She was just getting like eaten up and chewed out. Obviously when Erica was like, I guess I just wish you were more interesting in your life. Like, cause it was true. It's like everybody gives so much and like Garcelle doesn't hold back. She shares about her kids. Like she shares about everything. It's just not that compelling. And so I think her most compelling moments are when she comes for other people, which is not like a good place to be. And so when she was just like, I wish you were more interesting, it was just kind of, it wasn't, it was mean obviously, but it was so honest. It was just true.

1:05:55Yeah. And so that was kind of yikes. And then when Bo's was like, I mean, everybody, and she was pointing it at Garcelle, just you thinking that, like, I'm so easily manipulated to think things of you from Dorit. Like, you must think very low of yourself. I thought she was going to say, you must think very low of me. Well, that too. Well, of course. But then when she was like, you think low of yourself, I was like, damn, Garcelle cannot catch a break. Like, honestly, I actually felt bad for her. No, and it's such a lame look that she's so, like, big and bad in her confessionals. Yes. And, like, just says, like, really things as harsh and true as this.

1:06:26And then when she's, you know, in the moment, she has nothing to say back. It's just like, it's a weenie look. So I feel like since she started, she's always been like really kind of slay the house down in her confessionals. But at the reunion, it's never been like a come to Jesus on Garcelle moment. No, there's just been a lot of other stuff going on. This is like years in the making, which is why like the burglary stuff. So everybody's kind of airing out like years of grievances, which is just unfortunate for her. But this isn't new behavior. But she got used to being able to say kind of like fucked up.

1:06:56shit and Dorit is right that like you scour Twitter for like the theory that this was like an insurance set up the burglary for Dorit and her husband like that was a conspiracy theory from Twitter there was no proof no evidence of that ever and like Garcelle really ran with it and talked about it the season before last and then again this season because she got away with it so she's just gotten kind of used to saying crazy things and for the first time yeah maybe it's because there's nothing else going on this season they're like well let's talk about Garcelle yeah and because like Sutton's not unwavering in her support for her so it just looks even worse when it's just like every one piling on Garcelle and she has nothing to say yeah the looks um from the group collectively like were not my favorite and I feel like Beverly Hills always really brings it yeah I thought Dorit looked great she looks very thin like not in like not in a complimentary way I mean like it feels like the stress on her so when she says like she's heartbroken and like I believe her of course like and I why does like no one believe her it's really crazy how these I don't know I mean Bose of course supports her and Erica does too in the way that and we have to remember who Erica was when she came on the show like not a self-proclaimed like not a girl's girl and I yeah she's changed so much since being on the show but she's never gonna be like that to us again so like teamwork makes the dream team like she's just like her own person so as much as she is could be like supportive and be that for Dorit she is and I have no issue with her whatever but it just looks different than like Bose who's like yes girl like we got this us against the world did you feel like that comment Sutton made to Andy about like never having been married was like kind of weird and contentious because I got what she was saying in terms of Keely and Bose being like you know a guy who's approaching 50 and has never been married or had kids like it does give you pause like does he have commitment issues like why now why does he want to get and andy was like well i've never been married and it's obviously different you know he's gay and and the cultures are just different and it's just like i don't know i don't think it's weird that andy's never been married i just don't like yeah but if someone was like wanting to settle down with andy now and they were my friend like yeah i'd have reservations that he is up for the commitment of and you know because he's been 50 years of not but actually i wouldn't i just feel like you know in the gay community it's like it's not as big of a deal i felt they're not as traditional I felt like Sutton was spot on actually and it just got about Keely yes about Andy was like Andy is not a commitment person like he doesn't want a life partner and so what one day after 50 years he wakes up and now he knows how to be in a committed relationship like I don't think so so I think Sutton like was straight facts like yeah I feel that way about you and look at you and then she was like and look at you yeah he's a playboy he is so like yeah I guess I just thought it was a kind of a crazy comment it's a crazy thing to say to your boss to your boss and the person who's meeting the conversation who you do want to like you and be on your side but actually I thought she was spot on damn I thought she was spot on about Keely like it is a valid concern that's like the one thing about any friend who's dating anyone who's like you know even a man who's like even 40 that's never been married or have kids or have been in a long tour engaged like it's just a red flag that can be worked through or understood but like it definitely gives you pause I feel like Sutton was totally right for saying that can we talk about Bo's's Malibu house I had no idea she had a beachfront house in Malibu let alone that burn down burn down I knew her house burned down but I thought it was oh I didn't know that we kept seeing on the show oh oh and I guess they had filmed but because it was unseen footage between her and Sutton talking about Keely um and it was at the Malibu house and I know those houses it's like when you drive down Pacific Coast Highway and they're on the beach side they're all gone right now but like those are like millions and millions of dollars like that's something I would have liked to have scene yeah I didn't realize that I found that shocking yeah sad because we got that whole thing about Garcelle's beach house yeah we know about everybody's second homes Palm Springs Kyle well we were just getting to know bows yeah but like having a beach house in Malibu that's definitely something worth knowing yeah it's true um so I thought it was actually very good I had very low expectations for a reunion part one in general especially for like such a blah season but you know what I actually really enjoyed it.

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