In short
The Toast’s “Encore” episode with Margo Oshry as co-host, mixing pop-culture talk and the “Fast Five” news rundown. Main focus is Taylor Swift’s new “The Life of a Showgirl: The Encore” songs, plus celebrity and entertainment headlines.
Guests (on-air)
Margo Oshry (co-host; sister of Claudia/Toast hosts; frequent co-host during maternity leave; known for banter). Also mentioned/appearing in-studio: Bruno (a dog) and hosts Toast/Jackson Claude (no separate guest).
Key claims
- Taylor Swift’s “Patient Zero” is framed as a toxic-ex relationship song, while “Cleveland” is praised as satire and a “happy relationship” track; “Pink Clouding” is described as sonically familiar but unclear; “Babylon” is liked for its hook and “closure” vibe.
- Online backlash is mostly misdirected toward “Cleveland.”
- Melania Judice allegedly had suicidal thoughts during an airport clash; police were called and she was later escorted to her gate.
- Dove Cameron married Måneskin frontman Damiano David in Italy.
- Belmont Cameli is set to join Sydney Sweeney in Sony’s Hollow adaptation.
Notable examples
- Taylor track list: Patient Zero, Cleveland, Pink Clouding, Babylon.
- Airport incident: Tampa International Airport; video reportedly taken down.
- Casting: Hollow (Sleepy Hollow reimagining) with Katrina/Katarina Van Tassel as Sydney Sweeney’s character.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOCatching Up with Bruno
0:45 to 2:36
The hosts discuss Bruno's recent behavior and past experiences with him.
“I actually didn't plan to bring Bruno and I never bring him.”
Sisterly Banter and Popularity
2:36 to 5:09
Margot reflects on being a popular co-host and their close sister dynamic.
“I'm so happy you're here today because it's, like, going to be a big Taylor day.”
Life Updates and Change
5:09 to 8:10
Margot and Jackson share personal updates and discuss their busy lives.
“Like there's never been any space for rumors like that.”
Dining and Restaurant Recommendations
8:10 to 11:52
The hosts talk about restaurants in New York City and their dining experiences.
“So what do you think is the best restaurant in the city for someone coming to visit New York City?”
Food Adventures and CPK Memories
11:52 to 14:00
Discussion of favorite food items and a nostalgic experience at California Pizza Kitchen.
“Thank you so much for mentioning that because I didn't talk about it on the toast.”
Pop Culture Catch-Up
14:00 to 17:57
The hosts discuss recent TV shows and pop culture events they've been following.
“That's the thing, too, is that any, like, Harry's going to be like, oh, hi, Harry.”
Pop Culture Catch-Up
19:28 to 20:56
The hosts discuss recent TV shows and pop culture events they've been following.
“For us, it means just like a little less hot.”
Pop Culture Catch-Up
21:00 to 22:24
The hosts discuss recent TV shows and pop culture events they've been following.
“While many listeners know Reef for sandals and flip-flops, this, I am here to let you know that they also have sneakers, clogs, mules, and kids' styles.”
Pop Culture Catch-Up
22:37 to 24:17
The hosts discuss recent TV shows and pop culture events they've been following.
“Home Chef gives restaurant quality meals delivered right to our door for less than the cost of eating out and way less stress than meal planning.”
Pop Culture Catch-Up
24:20 to 24:30
The hosts discuss recent TV shows and pop culture events they've been following.
“Homechef.com slash toast must be an active subscriber to receive a free dessert.”
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Taylor Swift's New Music
24:30 to 28:00
The hosts analyze Taylor Swift's recent singles and their themes.
“Taylor Swift sings about escaping a toxic relationship as she drops her new single, Patient Zero.”
Analyzing Taylor Swift's New Album and Lyrics
28:00 to 37:58
The hosts discuss Taylor Swift's latest songs, their meanings, and public perceptions.
“And also there in the bridge, there's one part where she's like, you just have to find someone who doesn't find you completely insufferable.”
Mental Health Concerns for Melania Judice
37:58 to 42:00
A discussion about Melania Judice's recent mental health struggles and family dynamics.
“Cops were alerted that multiple females need police ASAP and that she got away, that she was separated from a counselor who was also on the scene, according to an incident report obtained by page six.”
Dove Cameron's Marriage: A Surprise Reveal
42:00 to 46:34
Discussion about Dove Cameron's marriage to Damiano David and their relationship history.
Sydney Sweeney's Upcoming Role
46:34 to 49:29
Insights into Sydney Sweeney's new role in the adaptation of Hollow and discussion about its hype.
The Buzz Around Sleepy Hollow Adaptation
49:29 to 53:16
Exploration of the unusual anticipation for the adaptation of a yet-to-be-released book.
“no I've I don't know what it's about but I've always heard of Sleepy Hollow like as yeah it's like a Tim Burton thing.”
Navigating the Baby Aisle
56:02 to 57:23
Explore the overwhelming choices in baby products and the importance of trust in brands.
“There are a thousand options for literally everything.”
Navigating the Baby Aisle
57:30 to 58:49
Explore the overwhelming choices in baby products and the importance of trust in brands.
“Walmart stores nationwide and at walmart.com.”
Navigating the Baby Aisle
59:26 to 1:00:42
Explore the overwhelming choices in baby products and the importance of trust in brands.
“Visit Square to get started because the right tools make all of the business.”
Closing Thoughts
1:08:48 to 1:09:21
Wrap-up messages and acknowledgments as the hosts sign off.
“And slowly the things you love begin to find each other.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast. I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast. Happy Friday. You guys, today is a celebration because it's Friday. We have one of our most popular co-hosts of all time subbing in for
0:38Claudia Oshry:Claudia and we have Bruno in studio. So today is a threefer. Welcome to today's co-host, my little sister Margot Oshre. Hello everyone. I'm so jealous that you have Bruno. I should have brought Mags but. You should have. I actually didn't plan to bring Bruno and I never bring him. This is the first time I've brought him. I can't even remember the last time he was on the show but as I was driving to work this morning as I was leaving the house I saw like Zach walking Bruno and I pulled over and he was with the boys so I was like oh hi and then Bruno was just like being Bruno and Zach was like you want to take him to work.
1:13I was like yeah I do want to take him to work but you didn't want to take his harness off no I didn't take his harness off and now I can't because I don't want him to get up but yeah there's been like a lot of rumors about Bruno yeah how's he doing because I was doing amazing worried this summer he always gives
1:31Claudia Oshry:everyone a fright in the Hamptons the Hamptons do not agree with Bruno he is the worst fattest laziest version of himself but the moment we got home like he's back to the old brew he's back okay I like are you just like saying that to like tell yourself that or like okay no no no no no everyone says it Bruno is back Bruno is back point blank period point blank period I look forward to the next time you connect I look I look forward to the next time I connect with him as well because you know he really loves me he loves to come in my bed and I really love brew but he makes me upset and he's a crazy individual but he's living his last his best life he's a crazy individual he is it's so you guys margo is here and i didn't want to like over hype it but i meant what i said because i was saying claudia's out today i was thinking of like who i wanted to co-host with me and like who were some of the most popular co-hosts when i did claudia's maternity leave and Margot's episode I think the shot this the episode was called like Sachi Catching Strays something like that yeah yeah oh I was catching strays and it was literally one of the most popular episodes of the maternity leave and then people were reminding me like oh is it because I said it's the most popular host from maternity leave they were like is it Jessie from Secret Lives because actually I do think hers was like the most because it was like so buzzy no fair um so second most popular no I like that's an honor I'll take like top five because it's like you know I'm not like special like I'm your sister it's not like I like have like really any major like tea to give so it just means that people just enjoy our banter and that's lovely yeah and I think you're one of the closest personalities like to a regular episode of the toast is what it is I was you know because I was ready to go to the studio bring in a guest you know call my peeps in Miami yeah you know but I was like wait they just want like like, swirly vibes.
3:26They just want swirly vibes. I'm so happy you're here today. And I was raised by my sisters. I'm so happy you're here today because it's, like, going to be a big Taylor day. And if not Claudia, like, you are the right person to talk to. Yeah, 100%. So given, like, the circumstances, we couldn't have a better co-host. I haven't spoken to you since the Hamptons. I don't think I've spoken to you, like, on FaceTime. We've, like, texted here. I had texted you asking if you could do the show today. I haven't spoken to you since the Hamptons. No, we've recorded redheads. That's really bad. And it's like, of course, it's a two-way street.
4:01Yeah, it is actually a two-way street. You, if I never call you again, like, you will never call me again. But if I will never call you again, you will never call me again. No, I would. I would call you. And you know that. But, like, I also am, like, extremely busy. I moved into a new house. No, no, no. I have, like, no problems with you. Like, I totally get it. You have so much going on. no no of course you don't have problems with me I'm saying but it sounds like you have problems me but like I'm also so busy like does that make you sad that you haven't spoken to your favorite sister at length in a while no it does but I'm also just thinking about like I don't know when I would have had the time because then once I do eventually have the time and I'm in bed like I don't want to fucking nap like I just want to lay in bed no time to call your sister you know actually I didn't even realize until right now and it's been a really crazy month but it's kind of disgusting and unprecedented how long we haven't like had a catch-up for so you guys are going to be privileged you are ketchup that's true that's true which is fun for you and by the way like no there's nothing like there's nothing betwixt us negative or anything like that i just should we start beef like let's start a rumor people are gonna hear that people are gonna hear that and think like we don't like each other no no totally oh my god i kind of love that like yeah like people like think that like the sisters are like beefing like that's like tea yeah it's like so kardashian yeah totally it's like oh my god like jackie and mary don't like each other because Because we're so up each other's butts.
5:22Like there's never been any space for rumors like that. It's so true. Because we love each other so much. Also, not for nothing. Like there is a group chat that's constantly going on. It's not like we've never been. We're not in communication. Like we are constantly talking every day. It's just in different formats. And we know like if you have an update and I have an update, it's in like. I know. But one to one. One on one. We haven't had a touch base in a while. We haven't. You should come see me. Oh, we did. When you called me, actually. You called me about Bruno Mars. I did I did we were thinking about going to Bruno Mars like Bruno Mars has always been performing September Miami like we're going and then the week before Margo was like are we going and I was like no and I do wish that we went I didn't see one thing from that I haven't seen one thing from his tour come to think of it I saw because um someone sent me videos from the show in Miami and like it looked amazing and we should have been there but it was the day before Yom Kippur and it's just a lot it's just a lot of time and Bruno swallowed a chicken bone I have three kids so Bruno swallowed a chicken bone oh yeah have you heard of this it was like so many weeks it was like two plus weeks ago now so I think we're in the clear he swallowed a chicken bone which is so bad for dogs and then what nothing did he like poop it out nope we keep calm and we carried on so like in that event do you take him to the vet or you just like pray for the rest no unless he's giving me cause unless he's like you know not being making noises yeah or you know sometimes we look at him we're like there's something wrong with Bruno um but he was like fine yeah no there was nothing there was nothing his birthday's coming up yeah his birthday was in August what oh but you got him in October his gotcha day is coming up yeah oh oh oh I always associate him with October got it okay oh that's so cute yeah yeah that's so cute well what's new with you I know you just want to talk about Bruno what's new with you I shouldn't have brought him he's a distraction um what's with me I don't nothing really to share with you publicly online you know oh wow but you've been too busy to call me but there's nothing new no my life is I just have a busy life you know I just lead a very busy life like I just what are you doing this weekend things going on what am I doing this weekend um tonight I have dinner tomorrow have you ever been to a restaurant in the city called Estella?
7:43No, but I feel like I've heard of it, but why? That's where MGK and Dakota Johnson went on their date. Interesting. When they went to Taylor Swift's apartment. Oh, I don't know. Yeah. I don't really like know like the like hot new places because I feel like I go to the same three. Oh, you do. You don't go to hot new restaurants. Have you been to Corner Store? I do. I have. I do love Corner Store. And I did actually go to the new restaurant that they opened that corner store opened this week called Cafe Charmant. It's in the old St. Theo's and it was fabulous. So maybe I do actually know. So what do you think is the best restaurant in the city for someone coming to visit New York City?
8:20Hillstone. Okay but like city specific and I agree it is Hillstone. Yeah city specific like what's the cuisine? Just give me a great restaurant in New York City like come on we got a young New York City young person here and it's not a membership club no and it's not a membership club um shoot like
8:49i don't know why this is coming to me but like american bar okay that sounds like i do love american bar yeah um
9:01are you ready for my next question nothing i was gonna say what's new with you Oh, that's so sweet of you. What's new with me? What isn't new with me, I would say. It's so true. I can't wait to see your new house. I'm so excited. Are you coming anytime soon? Do you have plans? I have Thanksgiving booked. Okay, that's in forever. That helps you. That's in forever. And then I was thinking about maybe coming in October for Levi's birthday. Okay, great. But I have a lot of work travel coming up, so I need to see how that nets out. And then if that weekend is available, then I'll come. okay great we would love to have you yeah it's just been like new house ting that's getting settled just like loving the new party vibe do you like change hate hate do you think you'd like change more or less than claudia claudia hates change too no i know um i think i handle change better than claudia but i don't know if i like it you know yeah yeah you don't like change like i love it you do I do that's such a good quality like I hate change I'm like a creature of habit in like so many aspects of my life exciting that's so scary so I just like loving being in a new environment and just all of the newness that's crazy like to me I'm just like that I hear what you're doing and I'm like holy shit that's so much work yeah well it was a lot of work but now the fruits of my labor are paying off there's still like stuff a little like fun projects to do I would say like the stuff that we have to do now is like fun like finding a cute sofa for the bedroom right right right like so I'm just taking my sweet time ordering a million fabric samples so when I come like I still stay with you yeah I would love it I would love it yeah it's up to you like we always switch or like bop around we bop around that's really up to you okay well I feel like I'll have to because I like wouldn't won't have been there yet like Olivia's house I'm familiar right right right it will be like a fun special thing new and like parge do the boys talk about me are they like where's miss margo um you can say no all the time all the time maybe she did talk about you this morning what'd you say would you say i'm gonna talk to miss margo you said that you weren't gonna be here tonight for dinner for dinner correct i will not be there so it's about the absence of miss margo oh classic i feel like that's always what you're talking about is the absence of Miss Margo.
11:26It's not too late for you to get on a flight and make it for dinner. I'm going to make chili. There's just like no way, but like I love you and that's a really beautiful sentiment. But it's just going to have to be a no from me at the moment. I'm making chili. I know. That's honestly enough to get me there. I might even make cornbread. Sourdough cornbread? No, regular. Like from the box. You made something recently. What was it? Oh, the a CPK tricolore salad. That was an inspired choice. Thank you so much for mentioning that because I didn't talk about it on the toast. Yes, I, my favorite menu item from California Pizza Kitchen is this tricolore salad, which was like an off menu item, but it was a salad on top of like a cheesy pizza crust.
12:07And it was amazing. I don't think I ever ate anything else at CPK because that was the only thing I ate. I guess I started with like the vegetable lettuce wraps and then that was the main. So good. So good. And then like it started to become like not available at cbk and now like cbk is nowhere to be found there's one in queens i had a paid brand deal oh love that so i i don't know i had a bite of like a pizza last week then i was like oh my god this crust tastes like cbk pizza crust and i was like i should try and make that so i did my first attempt was really good there are a couple things that i would do differently and i would totally make it again um and it totally satisfied the craving it was so exciting but the thing is it looks so good it looks small but not a lot of people oh no it was huge really oh the photo it looked small oh my god it was like way too i didn't even eat all that crust oh oh okay yeah i have a really big plate that's why perhaps it looks like it looks like it fit on a plate but i i have extra large plates i understand um so i would highly recommend that and if you never had the trichloric pizza at cbk like i feel sorry for you me too like seriously it was it was a sign of the times it was a couple people like dm'd me and they were like oh my god this brings me back yeah speaking of sign of the times i went to harry on wednesday styles yeah it was fabulous actually is that the concert that's on your story yeah i didn't watch it yet um it's it was from two days ago so it's gone i just like i actually remember i was walking through my room like trying to see what concert you were at and then something came up and i had put my phone down that's what happened to me that's totally fair i was in harry's house harish house but not harish house no no no this is harry this is together together so harry styles could come on namesake harry styles could come on namesake that's true what do you think about my podcast idea namesake i think it's so smart and also i feel like it comes up a lot like where like there's a lot of people who was it recently that you replied to my story Charlie Puth.
14:04Oh, Charlie Puth. Yes. Yeah. Charlie Puth. He's not Charlie Puth. Charlie Puth. Charlie Puth when he comes on music. Yeah, literally. That's the thing, too, is that any, like, Harry's going to be like, oh, hi, Harry. Harsh. Harsh. Do you watch Dancing with the Stars? So, no, but, like, I'm informed and I watch the clips and, like, I may as well. Do you know what I mean? Well, as long as you're informed. I'm informed. Like, I have one of my friends who, like, is a psychotic Dancing with the Stars fan and, like, keeps me up to date on every single thing. so I do know what is going on but what are you watching I'm so glad you asked because I've been watching like so much tv recently Lioness have you heard of it I heard about it everyone's talking about it um so good so good okay um I watched that new Emmy Rossum show Furious oh hate like seriously when I tell you I hated that show and I didn't even realize how much I hated the show as I was watching but now that I finished it and I've been sitting with it I'm like been thinking about how much I hated that show and I'm upset that I wasted so much time on it and also I went from Lioness to Furious and the production budget on Lioness versus Furious was so much higher that it made Furious not enjoyable to watch um and then I just started The Diplomat okay yeah I'm in like a weird like era of shows at the moment you've been hanging out with Olivia no I mean like on such an Olivia vibe like yeah yeah no I started to watch like a Harlan Coben one because she loves them like oh wow okay maybe you should stay at Olivia's when you come down so you guys could have like movie night yeah it's so true we do love a movie night when I stay there um but yeah Coben Harlan Coben and but I know the worst part do you want to know the worst part is that I started the show to watch it and I realized I've already seen it that is so Olivia I know yeah fool me once or whatever um so yeah that's what I've been watching but yeah no I'm not not like reality tv stuff you know yeah that's all I watch I know and then like you asked me to explain reality tv stuff like you were so interested to be informed on Let's Marry Hairs I like didn't understand as like a someone who was really not informed as an outsider and seeing some stuff online sometimes I was so confused so I went to my sister and I explained it and she sent me voice notes and she explained it well that was a crazy time Let's Marry Hairs Such a weird basis for a show.
16:27Yeah. It didn't have to be Mary. Like they didn't have, it could have been like. No, it could have just been a dating show. No, where ended in engagement and you're going to marry. Yeah, of course. And, but he's with, he's still currently with the other one. The girl that he met on his honeymoon, allegedly. Oh, I thought it was someone from the show, but just not the winner. No, not from the show. We don't know who it is. At least not in my, to my knowledge. Not here. It's not public. I don't think so. Interesting. Maybe people have figured it out, but I don't know. And like, remind me, are you like a fan of Harry Jowsey?
17:02So I was and I am, but the show was not good for his image, I would say. And if his image was starting to be like rehabilitated before the show and in the early episodes of the show where it's like he's so serious and he wants to get married and he lost his dad and it's making him realize he wants kids and a family. And then like, that's just not how it wound up. Right. so it's kind of it was like hard to root for him I understand that's totally fair yeah so it's complicated like for us Harry fans it's it sounds complicated I feel I feel sorry for you guys that you have to take on that burden it's okay we're small but mighty group literally um okay let's get into the stories do you think so I really want to talk about Taylor's New Music because that's really like what I've been thinking about this morning and I'm sure for you as well did you listen?
17:50I did. So without further ado, it is time for the fast-sized stories that you do need to
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24:55No, no, it comes out at the VMAs on Sunday. Oh, yes. Yeah, no. I was like, oh, I didn't watch the music video and do all my homework. Thank God. Okay, I did all my homework. Professor, I did the reading. Thank God. patient zero is the lead single from the encore of the life of a showgirl the encore what do you think okay so patient zero in particular um is like growing on me as i listen more however i don't know i'm having a hard time i'm not gonna lie i'm having a hard time the cleveland i have to say like i love like it's okay so you know what let's start let's look at the four as a whole and let's start with the positives I don't want to start with patient zero yeah because I want to not I would like to start with Cleveland even though a discourse online is like that people are hating Cleveland like I'm getting dms being mad at me that I like Cleveland and I'm like okay well so I like Cleveland well actually we have to talk about patient zero because we have to talk about what the song's about patient zero is about like uh you know somewhat her ex is at now ex calls her and is like you know he did this happen to you yeah and like bonding with your ex's ass and like I you know I know because I was patient zero and I'm like really you just got married and your first song after your wedding is about some toxic ex relationship that whoever it is it's certainly been played out a million times over like that's really what we're leading with after like this joyous occasion I know like I want to like I want you like what I want from her is the similar vibe but completely opposite sentiment of you know that song stop the wedding yeah and it's like fun and whatever like I want that song but the happy version from Taylor post wedding that's what I want yeah or even like where's my husband but like that here's yeah similar literally similar similar vibes I love that first of all because it's really these you know I really hate to go down this path because I don't agree with it but it's really starting to like beg the question can like happy people in love making music good art okay can I say like Luke Holmes makes good art well damn and like he doesn't have any like tumultuous whatever he's in a happy loving relationship and he has like such banger songs about being in love so many banger songs about like how much he loves his wife yeah and so great point yeah so I do think great point possible so back to the positive so I heard patient zero and I was honestly
27:28yeah yeah no I had the same reaction I heard Cleveland and I was happy me too because we got a song about her present relationship and it's obviously about Travis and she's like so happy and like boastful boastful and but I do like that a lot of it is like satire like some of the lines are just like her like poking fun of like at herself but also at like whatever and saying about her it's like someone said it's like she has there's she one of the lyrics I think is like she has so much money why does she dress like trash and like that's what people say and it's like she like put that in the song like I think that's what people say which is actually a great reference because I feel the complete opposite like are you like it's this happy song about like how much her man loves her even though everybody thinks she's a loser and it's like really the majority of people don't think that and the whole world was rooting for your relationship and the whole world was obsessed with your relationship and like maybe some nasty people were saying some nasty things or even like maybe like one percent of the discourse was like remotely negative being like why is he with her but also why is she with him where's the song about why is she with him and like you're you're giving your haters like so much validation in your song when literally no couple on earth has ever been more championed and loved and excited for than the two of them No, I agree.
28:44And also there in the bridge, there's one part where she's like, you just have to find someone who doesn't find you completely insufferable. And it's like, well, that's funny. Like that's sad. Yeah. You know, what she thinks about herself is that she's insufferable. Yeah. So the, the, the chorus is really cute. Cause it's like something we can all agree on. My baby likes what he likes. He already took me to Cleveland and showed me the heights. So hate all you like, this is the love of my life. So like, I love that. I love that. But then all of the verses are like, she's not as hot as she was, but she was only a four.
29:16She was never a girl's girl. She's dressed like a whore. And then it's supposed to be whore, but she doesn't say it. And with all of a sudden she doesn't curse anymore, which I love that. Thank you. I don't have to listen to the clean version. And with all that money, why is she dressed like trash when she smiles? It's annoying. And have you seen her? And it's supposed to be ass. I feel like people have said that, though. I will give her that. Yeah. No, I agree. you know and definitely like the the worst people have said some of these things i know and it's like like to your point that's like that's like three percent of the world like let's talk about the 97 yeah like what was it like to be in a relationship that the entire world was completely obsessed with like you literally changed the sport of football and it worked out yeah yeah so and it also reminds me of shaking it off i say out to lay kind of in my brain like that's what people like just all these like she's obsessed with what the mean things people say about her i know but and sure people say mean things about you so sure like right about yeah but what about like all of the great things like you are seriously the most famous person on earth and the most famous couple on earth beloved beloved billionaire but other than that i liked like the beat of that song and it felt better to me agreed then we have pink clouding which i which just felt like like mish like like yeah sonically like something i've heard before and not in a good or bad way like it's not sticking with me like i can't place it and the lyrics like met the magenta sunrise future forever intertwined through the rosewood on the fire neither of us knew at the time that i was a liar like i don't know what it's about i don't i just feel like it's words i saw something that it's like I saw something that was like patient zero is about um like not being in a toxic relationship Cleveland is about what it's like to be in a healthy relationship uh pain clouding is about like recognizing that you hurt people and Babylon is about I don't remember but it was like like the closing of a story I don't know yeah I had seen something like Babylon was about like knowing that you're never going to be like heartbroken like that again oh yeah of like that you're married and it's so it's done and like that's the encore yeah I loved Babylon now I am like I am privy to love anything like call about or about Babel and Tower of Babel and Babylon um but I also really just liked it uh I didn't I didn't listen closely to know what it's about yeah I also just like the beat like the open the intro was just like got me hooked.
31:57Yeah, it was nice and pretty. And it sounds like one of her songs. I just can't place what it is. Yeah. But here's what I'll say is obviously I'm happy to get new Taylor always and forever. I really, really just want debut Taylor's version. Like that's what I want right now personally. And I need that to happen. I want the love songs, Travis's version. Right. I want debut Taylor's version with like her vault songs now also people are saying people I saw one thing that patience of course it's like who is this about I don't think it's about Joe Alwyn because he hasn't had like a breakup neither has Maddie since like all everything happened um people are saying Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner I was thinking Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner or Dakota Johnson and also Dakota's in the music video Johnson and whomst like well so here's the thing uh and obviously like I don't know if we have to believe it but Taylor like called into a radio interview and she was saying that um this song morning yeah or it was yeah this morning and she was saying that she was like sitting with a group of friends and like one of the friends was like oh this person just called me because like they broke up with xyz um and like wanted to talk about it and then like everybody else was like oh my god that's happened to me like blah blah blah And so then she was like, oh, that's like a good idea for a song.
33:18Maybe she's just saying that and it's a cover to not be about people specifically. But she's saying that she got inspiration from those around her. I love that. I feel like that was a lot of folk more and ever more. I think that's what a lot of artists do when like maybe things are quiet in their personal life. But you don't do that under the framework of the life of a showgirl, which is the life of you. You. Agreed. So that would be under, you know, like Carrie Underwood released like Storyteller. and it was like you know about jenny yeah i was we weren't thinking that's carrie she's just telling like this story of jenny all that money could never save jenny from the devil living in his eye so it could be done i'm fine with that but like everything with taylor is so personal the life of a showgirl is literally her telling us this is her life as she experienced it while she was in her showgirl era so you can't now say oh it's about my friend and also so she was sitting around with her friends is that the trip she went on with shell bag and max when she no she said she wrote she said her shell bag and max shell shell back shell back and max who could come on namesake um yes they they wanted to celebrate the the amazing success of t loa so they went on a trip to sweden and they were just there to celebrate but of course there was a studio and there are songwriters so they fell into a couple songwriting and that's what the encore is I you didn't read that caption I did sorry I just like didn't I wasn't thinking like girls trip when I was reading that like I think it came from like her bachelorette party or something got it but again I think that's a crazy like what you are going to put what she puts out at any given moment you're all reading into will be speculated for your first song after you get married to be oh it was just like a random funny thought we had badass patients here like everything with you is so intentional no i obviously agree but also and then dakota johnson though recently has been doing the sophie turner of like going to taylor swift's apartment right after she broke up with role model and like you know taylor's like been taking care of her but no but that wouldn't be like the common x i there yeah they don't have the common x but also she's kind of role model margarita for two minutes it would maybe be chris martin i like loved dakota johnson and role model like it made so much sense to me but i think the like the real ex is chris martin yeah of course but like they broke up so long ago at this point and also like for you want to put out these four songs like fine what would take but like again for patient zero to be the single when it's so clearly right the worst one all know that she chooses the worst songs as her singles why i started thinking about that today why I don't know like I seriously don't know it doesn't make any sense to me like especially on her other albums when it's like so crystal clear like what the song should have been like lover cruel summer are you fucking kidding me like hello and hero
36:21yeah no midnight's yeah that was bad
36:27shake it off i mean i know but i you know i love shake yeah i know i know you are a shake it off apologist it's true hey let's play play play play play do the boys know that do the boys know shake it off yet um it's come on a couple times because it's like sometimes i'll put it on if i'm like trying to get like a fun song in for mama but they don't know it i feel like i could see them taking to it yeah also it's on the sing soundtrack so i think if your kids like sing then they they'll like shake it off but they've never seen sing but maybe it's time oh my god they would love it yeah that's a good one that is such a good movie so that's the new encore um i'm curious i feel like a lot's gonna come out of the vmas like i just feel like it's gonna be like a buzzy VMA is the vibe I'm getting like with Taylor.
37:22Um, and just like, I feel like other things I've just been seeing is like, it's just going to be like stuff's going on. Okay. So we'll see. I don't know. Yeah. I wonder like what the, like people think sound off in the comments, like on your thoughts of encore. Yeah. All I've been seeing is just hate for Cleveland so far. It's misdirected. It's misdirected.
37:45Claudia Oshry:At patient zero. fired at patient zero okay are you ready for our next story i am this is a crazy very sad story melania judice had quote suicidal thoughts and mental breakdown during an airport clash with her mom and her sister so um a video was shared yesterday of melania judice at the airport with her mom theresa judice real hazards of new jersey and her sister gia um police were called and it It was said that she was having suicidal thoughts and a mental breakdown when she had a heated encounter with her mom and her sister at Tampa International Airport in Florida on Wednesday. Page six can exclusively confirm.
38:24Claudia Oshry:Cops were alerted that multiple females need police ASAP and that she got away, that she was separated from a counselor who was also on the scene, according to an incident report obtained by page six. She was allegedly last seen 30 minutes before her mom saw her run away. About 10 minutes later, she was located and escorted by police to her gate. then shortly a video went up on social media that was then taken down of melania like filming her mom and her sister um like yelling at them and theresa just being like i love you i love you i love you and melania being like shut the fuck up um she was yelling at her mom like this is what we do now this is what i do now because i guess because like the police were there so it was just um a bit of an altercation at the airport yeah it's very sad well you know that melania's best friend just died right so I wonder if that's like playing into like her sort of mental and emotional state yeah she's also been going through just a bad period because even before that she was arrested for domestic assault she punched someone the report had the initials LR which could be anyone but also could be Teresa's new husband's name is Luis Rellis and his son is Luis Rellis Jr.
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39:41I believe. So it's like I think perhaps someone in the family. Interesting. So this is just like it's a string of like troubled behavior. Troubled behavior. How old is she? She is 20. Oh, oh my God. I don't know why she thought I thought she was like 15. No, she's 20. Well, because we've seen her grow up. Right, right. That's really sad. Like, I feel bad for them. And I have to say, like, I actually met Gia. And she's, like, lovely. And lovely and, like, seems like a very, like, good head on her shoulders. I was, like, actually kind of taken aback by it. Yes, I think that's always been people's impression of her.
40:22I think she, like, grew up fast and young. She's very mature. And now she's on Next Gen. And she has her podcast. And she's really doing well for herself. and I would say good head on her shoulders is a good way to describe her. Do you watch Next Gen? I don't. Do you? No. Are you Next Gen? I feel like I'm not Next Gen. I feel like you don't watch Housewives. Yeah. You would watch Next Gen. No. I feel like if I were to watch a show, it would be like Summer House, but I don't and I won't. Yeah. You know? You don't like reality TV. I don't think I like reality TV. So crazy. Like I still haven't even finished and I actually was really enjoying it, but I just Earl Meets World.
41:04I know. Like I just like haven't finished it. How did you not finish it? Because I saw like what's worth seeing like online. And so then I'm like, okay, I don't need to like spend my time watching. Wow. I know. I've been meaning to. I will. But like even like Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, like I don't think I ever finished a second season. Yeah. I can I understand why like you don't watch that I feel like that's not your vibe but like Alex Earl is so your vibe no I know and I do love her and I do love Reale so yeah um so this is very sad I feel very bad for Teresa I feel like she's handling it like as best as you can I know she can't catch a break yeah no this just like this is very very sad very sad prayers yeah I hope she gets the help that she needs I agree our next story is just so interesting that it came out today because I would never pick it if Claudia were here but I have today okay I have to pick it because you are here because Dove Cameron got married to her man who I didn't
42:17Claudia Oshry:know she had a man and that this is her man main skin front man Damiano David okay I have so many things to say one there's a story that I keep waiting for you to bring up and I'm really just so curious to see if you picked it but I'm not gonna say until we're done and if you don't I'm gonna be so confused wait you have okay after this story you're gonna say it okay fine um I did see that I didn't know that it was the front man to main skin do people know that like you and I have like lore with Cameron if you've been around for a really long time you do if you've been watching the show since the beginning but if you're like sort of new here Margo and I are obsessed with and we're obsessed with now it's like you know sort of over so yeah what's there to do but like we love the Descendants franchise no like love no one has ever loved it more or seen it as many times as we have like the well it's because it's Kenny Ortega uh-huh and one and two were so good three was not good but every every like trilogy has a flop yeah so we had inadvertently love Dove Cameron love Dove Cameron like we have kept up with her in every relationship in every like project it's not been a smooth ride no she has she has had troubles yeah and she's gone through like a lot of different eras and like figuring out like you know who she is post Disney and all of that um she's had a couple different relationships she actually always dates like interesting people even if at the time I don't know if always at the time I don't know them I don't know them yeah and then I'm like oh like Thomas Doherty from he was in Descendants but then he's also in Gossip Girl he was in Tell Me Lies oh right he was the good one Leo Leo from Tell Me Lies that's who she's named wow good memory like I would never remember that um yeah Yeah, no.
44:02And yeah, I'm happy for her that she's married. Like I was not obsessed with her look. So they wore like matching suits. They got married in Italy. So it wasn't, you know, gonna be. Why? Everyone gets married in Italy. Haley Page. Why? Everyone gets married in Italy and they look gorgeous. She's alternative. Yeah. Okay. So say that. Like them getting married in Italy isn't reason to not wear a fucking dress. Yeah. Well, they wore matching suits, but she looks beautiful. I mean she's like really one of the most beautiful people on the planet. Oh she's unbelievably gorgeous. How could she be bad?
44:34But first of all Mainskin like Eurovision. They won Eurovision. Do you know that? Yeah. And Damiano David. I actually know who that is because I've been listening to like one of his songs is on. Like I identified that I liked it and it's on my like song. So I see his name like every day in my car. The first time. Do you know it? I would maybe have to hear it. I love it. Do you know that I always thought that Mainskin was like seriously a band from like the 80s. I know I don't know why I didn't realize that they were like new and young I think it's because they did A cover A cover of like Begging Begging Begging Begging Which is an old song So then when they redid it You probably just thought they were the ones who sang it Who originally sang it yeah But yeah I'm pretty sure Mainskin is from Eurovision Like I know that Like I'm 99 % sure But let me just I mean I feel like you're probably right Yeah and they say ZT Ebroni yeah they won in the Netherlands
45:35Claudia Oshry:in 2021 wow okay and like fairly recently yeah crazy I didn't know he was dating Dove and I didn't know that they got married so I'm so glad they got married today when you're here so we can talk about it no me neither I'm so happy for her like I feel like she like found her peace and I feel like that's all she's really ever wanted yeah I think also things like perception of her shifted a lot when she did armchair expert a few years ago yeah and she's so smart and well-spoken well-spoken and she has a crazy story and I think like people got to know her who didn't know her and those of us who didn't know her like saw her in a different light and she's obviously like very mature and very like ready and not you know just the Disney girl that that everyone knew and loved no I agree yeah to mazel tov to the mazel to the happy couple to the davids to the davids okay what's the story you thought I was going to choose sydney sweeney and belmont camelli okay that is the next story thank god I really I'm actually bummed that it's the next story because I thought there was like something huge that I was missing oh no and honestly this was sort of a last minute edition we don't always like talk about casting news but because like you're Belmont Cameli spokesperson and this sounds really good and it's Friday it did make the cut yeah off-campus star Belmont Cameli joined Sidney Sweeney in Sony's Hollow so Sony Pictures looks to have found its Brom Bones for its upcoming Sleepy Hollow movie sources tell Deadline that Belmont Cameli is set to join Sidney Sweeney in the studio's adaptation of Hollow the project based on filmmaker Lindsay Anderson Beer's forthcoming debut novel okay so the book hasn't come out yet no is that interesting uh she's also attached to direct as well as adapter novel which will be published by putnam in fall 2027 the novel sold to putnam and highly competitive and will be globally translated at launch why is this already being adapted to a movie and also why is it already like known to be like a game like why is there a huge bidding war on an author's first book i don't know and also i'm confused on if there's a script like why do you have to release a book if the book isn't already out no no no i'm beyond confused we're gonna have to do some investigating okay okay like there nothing will ever like be more hyped than this no i know and like a filmmaker okay so she wrote the netflix film sierra burgess is a loser as well as pet cemetery and chaos walking don't know those
48:15yes she founded a production company with two other people who announced that it's going to help produce the new adaptation of lord of the flies but like still that doesn't that doesn't explain like all the buzz should i ask chat i don't know so the novel is a reimagining of the legend of sleepy hollow told through the perspective of katrina katarina van tassel played by sydney sweme reframing one of literature's
48:41Claudia Oshry:most iconic heroines positions her as not only a romantic prize but essential figure and dangerous mystery and seductive supernatural love triangle triangle the story blends gothic atmosphere psychological intrigue and erotic thriller elements into contemporary high concept reinvention of the classic tale okay what's the legend of sleepy hollow you've never heard of sleepy hollow like i've heard of it but also i've also heard of like stars hollow what's the one from gilmore girls stars hollow is gilmore girls yeah is it yes it starts right i think so i never watched gilmore girls what's gilmore girls hollow stars hollow gilmore girls yeah no you're right it's a fictional town in connecticut featured in the television series of Gilmore Girls.
49:26Okay so that's the only hollow I know. Yes Sleepy Hollow no I've I don't know what it's about but I've always heard of Sleepy Hollow like as yeah it's like a Tim Burton thing. Okay this is sounding worse and worse. I and it's a gothic atmosphere starring Sidney Sweeney and Belmont Camilli. I want to see them in full color. Ah yeah yeah. In full living color. I do think that this is like supposed to be a kind of like thriller mystery vibes like I don't think it's supposed to be like um her movie with Glenn Powell what was it called yeah that's what I was thinking too oh yeah no I don't think it's I don't think it's also good because no like that one got just such a bad rap I never saw it but it also it didn't wasn't even compelling for me to see because it is so obvious you know yeah but I'm just like so intrigued by Sydney Sweeney's collecting these off-campus men like infinity stones because she's she cast Stephen Kalen, Dean, for The Housemaid.
50:24Right. Yeah. And so like that's kind of crazy. That is crazy. I didn't realize that. I love that. No, I mean, I love that. But he's just – he's not the main guy. He's like her boyfriend in the sequel for Housemaid Secret. Yeah. Yeah. Which I love that for him. Yeah. Okay. So how do you feel about them, her and Belmont in Sleepy Hollow? I mean, I'm obsessed. Like I like I love Sidney Sweeney and like we all know like I'm Belmont Camille's biggest fan. So like why not? Like do you see Tyler Cameron's dance to Dancing with the Stars? Of course I did. I mean I did you approve? As the president of the Belmont Camille film?
51:08Yeah I approved. I thought it's a good idea I think like by Sharna or whatever to like do that and like play into that. Like I think that that was smart. You heard it was Chicks in the Office idea. Was it? Oh I didn't know that. them talking about it because they were there did you see them dancing like in the no you probably did it because you don't watch so you're not entirely informed I'm not entirely informed but they were there with as like Tyler's friends and family and and in the package dance yeah no in the dance he like goes and dances in front of like his little family section yeah because it's like girls you know yeah yeah um and then they were talking on their podcast how like they had this idea for him oh oh it's that was a really good idea like amazing idea amazing idea like I love that because it's like it's not at the point where it's too overdone yet it's definitely like gonna get there but like no it's not there were two things like and that's what I said to Claudia like when he danced in the show I had already known I had already seen the video from the kid Loray concert I saw that video first yeah oh and I thought okay I hadn't seen off campus but I saw the video yeah I saw like everyone posting it and I thought it was cool actually even though Claudia hated it like I had no issue with it I loved it he's obviously recreating his viral dance from his show and when I finally watched the show I didn't even realize that was the the moment because in the show it's quite literally 0.7 seconds no it's nothing happened he didn't even do like a good job in the dance-off for drunk Shakespeare so like how did that get pick up um because like people are obsessed so like they'll find like anything they can and then And when they do like slow it down and like duplicate it like into a fan edit, like it's really great.
52:42Okay. When they're doing it like that. Yeah. When you're doing it like that, like you obviously get consumed by it. And like the man just loves to dance. Like that's it. Yeah. So, so far we have like just that one, then the one at the concert and then Tyler Cameron. Like there's, I don't think it's overdone. No, I don't think it's overdone at all. Just let him dance. Yeah. Let the boy dance. Maybe he'll be dancing in hollow. or maybe he'll be dancing sooner than you think wink wait on dancing with the stars no no dancing with the satchies no would you ever do dancing with the stars for sure but i think i would be like sarah jay nader like i would get like i would get kicked off on the first night because like i'm a nepo sister and like nobody even care about me but like I would totally do it perfect comparison except if you danced really well they actually you couldn't go home really night one because your score would like carry you through maybe maybe but like I don't I don't know like no like I just know how to go like you know like we actually don't need you to go and dance dance because like we've seen it already Yeah, like just go to my Instagram.
53:55Like that's usually what it is.
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1:00:24Claudia Oshry:So if you're starting a business or running one that deserves better tools, Square helps you sell, manage, and grow without slowing down. Right now, you can get up to$200 off Square hardware at square.com slash go slash toast. That's S-Q-U-A-R-E dot com slash G-O slash toast. Run your business smarter with Square. Get started today. Thank you, T-Turt. You're welcome, T-Turt. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. it's a little um I guess lifestyle news because um Barbie is getting some backlash I want to get your thoughts have you seen this I have I just saw it this morning I have first ever Hanukkah Barbie sparks both outrage and excitement with her look which includes a different nose than the other Barbies you know some saying a bigger nose so this week Mattel debuted its first official Hanukkah doll as part of the legacy toy brand's holiday sweaters collection.
1:01:23The$28 toy is part of the company's upcoming holiday sweater collection, which includes two other Barbies, one who's blonde, one who is black. They're dressed in red and green Christmas sweaters that light up when you press a hidden button. They, you know, have Barbie's hair and shiny lips. The Hanukkah Barbie is a little different.
1:01:45Okay. Like, wait, first there is her outfit. She's wearing a blue sweater. with a giant menorah baby blue dreidels and tiny snowflakes along with blue stars of david um she's also wearing what appears to be uggs and um she's got a schnaz okay am i blind like jackie i didn't see anything wrong with her nose like it wasn't that big so here's what i will say they obviously tweaked the nose because barbie like the other barbie noses have all the same noses. No it's like Barbie they're like teeny tiny yeah. This one is different. This wasn't like a schnoz like. If you just showed me the doll and didn't say they like enlarged the nose or anything like and you just showed me this Hanukkah doll.
1:02:31First of all she's beautiful. She's gorgeous. I kind of like she kind of looks like me. It's like representation and I do think she looks like a beautiful Jewish girl and so like before all of this if you just showed me they were making a Hanukkah doll you guys anti-Semitism is so fucking bad we don't need to look for shit like this. No that's where I'm like Like, I think the words you are looking for are thank you. We're always fighting for inclusion. We just, like, want to be part of it. And, like, I don't think that they did this in a way to be anti-Semitic. I really don't. Like, it's fucking Barbie.
1:03:02And so I have no problem with this. Honestly, the bigger issue is that, like, I feel like I'm not obsessed with, like, her outfit. I don't like any of their outfits. That's what Christmas and holiday sweaters are. They're ugly. there's ugly Christmas sweater fine that's so true yeah no guys I have no problem with this and like again it's not like it's a crazy schnoz that it's like offensive like it's not like a hook nose like Macklemore wore literally exactly like it's it's just it looks like a regular nose to me like yeah I think I mean they definitely like side by side but like I wasn't doing that they definitely like stepped into some stuff like trying to like you know get into like features and whatnot and they could have just like done the same face and the sweater but they like try to be authentic I don't know they're like damned if they do damned if they don't I'm just happy that there's a Hanukkah party she's beautiful and I really hope that this doesn't like hinder them from like doing more yeah I think everybody like calm down I can give you a list of things to go be offended about instead but the only other thing I'll say is that Barbie is Jewish the founder of barbie ruth handler is jewish um and i think she like made the dolls like it was for her daughter so why you gotta make barbie jewish if she's already jewish you know what i mean like why do you have to change her face if the original bar if that face is the original yeah it's that's an original so i actually that sort of bothers me more because
1:04:29Claudia Oshry:now you're saying oh barbie was never jewish and here is a jewish barbie that's erasure that's erasure now we're getting into erasure and now we're getting to erasure which i find disgusting yeah which like okay i've never mind like you're wrong yeah like you're telling the wrong story because barbie's jewess jewess um but no other than that like she this is beautiful and if she were like really ugly and busted oh my god if she if she looks like the face that macklemore did like the that jew face like then that's that's what we're acting like it is and it's it's quite literally not it's it's not at all so I think it's really cute and thank you so much for including us in your holiday collection and we're just happy to be here and that's all really um I wish Claudia were here today like just to yeah I want to know what she thinks about this you can ask her on Monday yeah hopefully it'll come up on Monday yeah well those were the fast high stories and I feel as though you needed to know them uh for sure we definitely needed to discuss them now it is time for queenie and weenie of the week miss margo do you have a queenie and weenie for us i have a queenie i don't really know if i have a weenie even though like i feel like everyone's just constantly being a constant weenie at all times the problem is they're like worse than weenies so yeah yeah it's just a weenie like just like a weenie weird thing somebody did this week like yeah i've just been like struggling with that everyone who listens knows i think shovel with like calling somebody a weenie yeah yeah because like people did far worse things but they're actually like too bad yeah like we need supposed to be funny and then it's like if you get all serious it's like that's like you've missed the point um from a weenie perspective i have to think about that but i have my queenie and like i'm really like i feel like it's a really good one okay who's your queenie lily reinhardt i don't know if you guys have spoken about her on the show this week but have you like been seeing her press tour looks i saw one of them that was president's daughter yeah she and then i saw a headline that she's like making iconic rom-com looks like her press tour looks and she's fucking eating down yo like she is crushing did you read the love hypothesis you did oh i did um i'm very excited for the movie i feel like it's gonna be really good but on this press tour she's been uh recreating these like iconic moments and she's like so unbelievably pargy like in she just looks amazing right now and like her looks have been so gorgeous and like I've just been eating it up and it's really just like in my opinion queenie behavior that's beautiful yeah my queenie will be Claudia for announcing oh yeah that's her pregnancy and you know how how hard she's been working that's really sweet to make it through jackie that's beautiful thank you i mean it could always be us i mean it could always be us and that's what's the actual hard part about queenie and weenies like we're the queenies i know but like you can't say that all the time no you can't say it all the time um and you're the queenie for joining me today thank you for having me you know i love to be here yeah no this was so fun i needed a hit of satchy i hit a satchy like you know i just need to just get on the plane margo just get on a plane do you want to book it if i book it will you come if i build what if you like show up for dinner and nobody knows that you're coming it's not too late it's not too late nobody's gonna listen to this i know i already thought about that um nobody in our family is gonna listen no literally like we could say the craziest shit and like nobody's gonna listen to it.
1:08:07Certainly not till the bitter end. Like you don't listen to me and Claudia when we do this. No, no, no, no. And I'm not offended that nobody would listen to this. And honestly, we don't want them to listen to it. No, I only listen to it when one of my moles tells me that you guys are talking shit about me. Yeah. Yeah. Love that. Yeah. It's a great way to get more listeners. We need you. Yeah. Okay, I'll book your flight. We love you so much. We will see you on Monday. Thank you so much for being toasters, for just everything that you are. The best community. Everything that you are. Is so special to us.
1:08:39It's so special. Leave a comment. Leave a review. Five stars. We'll see you on Monday. Love ya. Love ya. Bye. Bye.
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