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The Toast - Episode Summary: The Fast Five: Wednesday, December 17th, 2025
Episode Overview In this episode of *The Toast*, hosts Jackie and Claudia Oshry engage in light-hearted discussions covering a mix of pop culture, personal anecdotes, and recent events. The episode features commentary on various topics including a publicized murder, new works by Taylor Swift, significant news in the podcasting world, and a review of television shows they’ve been watching.
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Key Topics Discussed
- Rob Reiner's Tragic Murder
- A significant event that has captured public attention.
- The hosts briefly touch on the implications and reactions surrounding this incident.
- Taylor Swift's New Documentary
- Discussion of the latest documentary featuring Taylor Swift.
- The hosts express their excitement and insights regarding her work.
- Big Podcasting News
- They delve into major developments in the podcasting industry.
- Reflection on the evolving landscape of podcasting and its impact on media consumption.
- Television Shows Review
- The hosts share their recent viewing experiences.
- Insights into popular series, particularly focusing on the latest season of *Real Housewives of Salt Lake City*.
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Special Segments
Girly-Swirly Lipstick Controversy
- Claudia shares an anecdote about Revlon's lipstick named "Girly-Swirly."
- Discussion on the phrase's origin and the hosts’ thoughts on the brand using their language without compensation.
- The humorous interaction with ChatGBT regarding the origin of the phrase, asserting their influence in popular culture.
Reflections on *Real Housewives of Salt Lake City*
- Claudia discusses her thoughts on the character Monica from the show, critiquing her motivations and actions.
- The hosts analyze the dynamics of the show and the implications of bringing certain personalities onto reality television.
- Emphasis on the themes of wealth and authenticity depicted in the series.
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Key Takeaways
- The episode showcases the hosts' signature blend of humor and candidness.
- It emphasizes the impact of pop culture phenomena on public discourse.
- The conversation reflects on the success of their podcast and its influence on social trends and language.
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Conclusion The episode captures the essence of *The Toast*, mixing humor with serious commentary on relevant topics in pop culture. Jackie and Claudia's conversational style engages their audience while providing insightful analysis of current events and cultural discussions.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Welcome back to the Toast Patreon. Happy December. It's a December to remember here at Patreon. Not a sale. The price is fixed. Oh yeah. Not a sale. Which works in times of inflation and in times of inflation and in times of inflation. What are the opposite of surpluses? Welcome back, you guys. We are doing a very fun episode today because Claudia and I just wanted to do some girly-swirly chit-chat. We had planned a big-themed episode, but we weren't ready to record it today. Wait, also, speaking of girly-swirly, can I tell everyone my journey with ChatGBT? So, I don't know if you guys know this, but a while ago, Revlon came out with a lipstick called Girly-Swirly.
0:45And actually, somebody from communications in Revlon sent it to us being like, Isn't this amazing? And I'm like, you stealing our language without compensating us? Yeah, we love it. We actually reached out to our attorney who told us there's quite literally nothing we can do about it. I'm like, if we wanted to go to court, we don't. And it's just like a fun fact that if you go into literally any grocery store or drugstore that sells lipstick, you will find a lipstick called Girly Swirly. I feel like people didn't know that. No, because I didn't want to give the brand any attention. We didn't promote it.
1:11We weren't getting paid. So I saw somebody in our Facebook group was like, oh my God, was this a partnership? Anybody know that there's a lipstick called Girly Swirly? Like the girls must be freaking. We're not. And I was reading comments and people were like, well, they didn't create girly swirly. I'm like, if we didn't create it, then who did? Like, we literally did. We did. We did. It's a childhood family. There are other things that we've, like, popularized but not created. Swirly, girly swirly. Like, you could walk it all the way back. We did create it. I can understand, like, why people would just assume it's become so big.
1:45Of course. I understand, like, you thinking, like, it was bigger than us. You'd be confused, yeah. But it's not. And so I went to ChatGBT and I was like, hey, Swirly, can you let me know who invented girly Swirly? And ChatGBT was like, well, I believe there were like, you know, references to girly and Swirly in some pop teen magazines in the early 2000s. But the phrase became widely popularized in 2020. And I said, oh, what happened in 2020? You said the 2020s. OK, then that's what it was. Sorry, I forgot. OK. And I was like, oh, what happened in the 2020s? What made it popular? and they were like oh the internet you know like podcast and tiktok and i was like i actually said sometimes like you have to correct chat gbt they're like low-key not smart and i was like hi chat um actually you're wrong the podcasters jackie and claudia ashley of the toast made it famous and he was like you know what you're right and they were like here's how it happened you know podcast audience becomes niche niche audience becomes internet whatever hopefully now if you ask chat gbt i've like course corrected yeah but we all know we were there and if you really want to do your homework like it's in the files everything the receipts are online as heather gay would see receipts timeline screenshots no that's not it everything now you said all of it receipts proof timeline and screenshots fucking everything right fucking everything i guess that was a viral sound at the time i do want to update everyone because i belatedly have watched that season of real housewives of salt lake city after mostly avoiding spoilers when it all happened now that I've watched that season I've asked Claudia like what was the temperature of the country like when that came out and Claude was like oh my god it was like Scandavala was the biggest thing and even when I posted it on my story the people were responding to me like receipts timeline proof I'm like that was the quote you guys took away from it I didn't realize that was like the money moment kind of like embedded in American culture now much like girly swirly is receipts timeline proof screenshots fucking everything so can I just share my thoughts on what I thought because I had an idea did you not do we not have this conversation I hadn't seen the big reveal yet are you sure positive okay positive I was just enjoying my season saying I'm team Lisa Barlow she was on to Monica and I had an idea that like Monica was this insidious character and that like she did something some cyber bullying but I didn't know the extent of it and like as I'm watching the season I was like oh maybe she was just the one who sent Meredith that DM about Angie and like just made a fake burner account and was getting called out for it but no the fact that She was running like a Real Housewives of Salt Lake City specific.
4:18Right. Fan account for bullying the girls. She was like she was she said she was one sixth of it. And in her part, she was interested in bullying Jen John Jen shot only. But like she was surrounding herself with the people who are bullying Whitney and Lisa. And like that is so fucking crazy and so insane that Bravo led her on the show. And she maintains that she told Bravo that she did this. I would love to know if that's true how this slipped through the cracks. But the whole season, like her presence on the show was so weird. Yeah. And she'll make it about money and be like, what, because I don't have money?
4:47No. Well, a little bit because you don't have money. It is a show about affluent women. Plenty of people come on the show of different means and have different things to bring to the table. She really didn't have much to bring to the table except for being obsessed with Jen Cha. Like, that was it. All season, I was, like, not about her. I felt like she, like, went for, like, low blows, low-hanging fruit. She also, like, she thought she was, like, such a slay and she would, like, argue with people. But she would do the cheapest arguing tactic. Oh, no. She's going to be like, it's about money. No.
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Hi Toasters! For your second episode this month we've got a regular-degular episode of The Toast. We are covering Rob Reiner's tragic murder, Taylor's new doc, big podcasting news and all the shows we've been watching.
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