The Florida Tourism Board Presents Cass DiMicco: Monday, June 2nd, 2025

2 Jun 2025 · 1 h 12 min

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The Toast Podcast Episode Summary

Episode Title

The Florida Tourism Board Presents Cass DiMicco

Episode Date

June 2nd, 2025

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Hosts

  • Jackie Oshry (@JackieOshry)
  • Cass DiMicco (@cassdimicco)

Episode Overview

This episode features Jackie Oshry and guest Cass DiMicco discussing various celebrity news, personal anecdotes, and insights into influencer culture, fashion, and relationships. The hosts touch on notable events in pop culture, including Taylor Swift's music catalog acquisition, Hailee Steinfeld's recent wedding, and highlights from the SI Swimsuit runway show.

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Key Discussions

  1. Taylor Swift Buys Back Her Catalog (25:42)
  2. Taylor Swift's significant news of regaining ownership of her music catalog after years of disputes.
  3. Discussion on the history with Scooter Braun and the implications of her buying back her music.
  4. Importance of this milestone for Swift and her fans.
  1. Hailee Steinfeld's Wedding (36:44)
  2. Steinfeld marries NFL player Josh Allen in a private ceremony.
  3. The hosts discuss the normalcy of the event compared to typical celebrity weddings.
  4. Brief mentions of wedding attire and the significance of private celebrations.
  1. Highlights from SI Swimsuit’s Runway Show (45:51)
  2. Recap of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit runway show during Swim Week in Miami.
  3. Acknowledgment of various celebrities and influencers, including Bethany Frankel and Stassi Schroeder, participating in the event.
  4. Positive feedback on diversity and inclusion showcased in the models and presentations.
  1. Miley Cyrus’s Relationship with Her Father's Romance (56:51)
  2. Miley Cyrus discusses her feelings towards her father Billy Ray Cyrus's relationship with Elizabeth Hurley.
  3. Emphasis on maturity and growth in her perspective about family dynamics.
  1. JoJo Siwa and Chris Hughes's Relationship Update (1:04:09)
  2. Announcement of JoJo Siwa and Chris Hughes's relationship after previously ambiguous flirtations on reality TV.
  3. The hosts discuss the significance of this relationship in the context of JoJo's exploration of her sexuality.

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Guest Introduction

  • Cass DiMicco: A fashion influencer, designer, and founder of *Orium*, an accessories brand. Cass shares insights into her journey in the influencer space, discussing how she transitioned from being a buyer to launching her brand.

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Insights and Takeaways

  • Navigating Influencer Culture: Cass emphasizes the importance of authenticity and staying true to one's brand while engaging with the audience.
  • Personal Growth: Both hosts reflect on personal experiences, highlighting the importance of evolution in personal and professional lives.
  • Celebrity Dynamics: The episode showcases the evolving relationship dynamics among celebrities and the significance of public vs. private personas.

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Quotes

  • "Every year that goes by, I've been doing content for years... it's gotten to a place where I'm just so scared to even show even the tiniest bit of personality because I'm like, I'm gonna get canceled." - Cass DiMicco
  • "Taylor Swift buying back her music feels like nature is healing." - Jackie Oshry

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Additional Segments

  • Fast Five: A rapid-fire segment discussing trending topics and quick opinions on various celebrity news.
  • Product Recommendations: The hosts mention brands like Carraway and Skylight as part of their sponsorship discussions, emphasizing non-toxic and organizational products.

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Conclusion

The episode concludes with a light-hearted tone, encouraging listeners to embrace their individuality and enjoy the evolving landscape of celebrity culture. Cass expresses excitement for her future endeavors and the support from the *Toast* community.

Join us tomorrow for another episode filled with insights and fun discussions!

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0:20I sound amazing. Welcome back to the toast. Happy Mundaries. This is week two, day one of Jackson Friends, Jackson Blank. And my friend today is Kaz D 'Amico, fashion girly, influencer, designer, founder, someone I've been following for so long and I've never met before. And I'm so excited to meet you. Hi, Kaz. Welcome to the show. Hi. I'm too excited. Like, it's actually a problem. This morning, I was literally singing in the shower. it's jackson casson where you're we could do a live theme song today i know i know i mean i don't want to make claudia jealous but you have a nice singing voice no it didn't sound like it but i can say that because mine's really bad too but if you had a nice voice like maybe we could do a live take but i think the two of us together people will turn off this episode before they even get a chance to know you and that ain't right i know i know i'll try not to sing too much today.

1:17Oh, no. You can sing. No, please sing. I guess last week I did my first week of Jackson Friends while Claudia is on maternity. Klogis, we love you and we miss you. And we're just so excited for everything that's happening for you. But I did my first week of Jackson Friends. And now that I think about it, we did not really sing, except for Joey and I did a really toned up version of Country Fried. So if you would like to sing, I would love it. Yeah. Yeah. I'll leave that intro. That could be my only appearance for singing. Okay. Well, just feel free is all I want to say. And they're used to a bad voice because they listen to me a lot and they're very tolerant.

1:51The audience, the toasters, which you are a toaster. Oh, I'm not a toaster. There's like you guys need a new word for there's there's toaster. Then there's like super fan. I'm super fan. Super. Okay. So you listen every day. Listen every single day. Patreon. Merch. Redheads. Redheads. Really? I don't I don't keep up with every book. But if I read a book, I will go to the corresponding episode. I love that. We're recording Redheads this week. Actually, I'm reading the book. I'm so behind. But I literally say that every single month, once a month on the show. I'm like, I'm reading for the Redheads.

2:24I'm so behind. And I don't want to bore you guys. So I'll just leave it at that until the episode comes out. But please introduce yourself for the listeners who might not know Cass yet. But you probably do because you've probably seen her things all over the internet yeah yeah yeah I'm definitely this is gonna be fun because I'm definitely have this more persona on my Instagram I feel like it's very elevated and this just like very aesthetic girly you're very aesthetic I'm very aesthetic if I do say so myself yeah no I appreciate that you'll just like own that and I'll be like oh I am I didn't realize yeah no I try really hard it's not like an effortless thing i try very hard and but in real life i'm just like a normal girly swirly normal galley going about your life but also like you are very aesthetic but also in service of your brand exactly so you founded a brand called orium which is um like fashion it's mostly accessories right yeah so it's all accessories so we sell sunglasses you've seen the sunglasses i think claudia wore them in this studio when she was wearing sunglasses while we recorded in Florida.

3:29Yeah, exactly. You see, like your sunglasses are like viral and the earrings and the belts. Yes. Yeah, so we are an accessories brand. It's kind of all about the art of accessorizing is our tagline. It's all about kind of just dressing simply and adding accessories. It's just like an easier way to get dressed. Like today I was like, shit, what do I wear? Yeah. I threw on a t-shirt, jeans and a cool belt and earrings and like, boom, done. No, it's so true. Technically you're wearing like jeans and a t-shirt but you look so elevated due to your accessories. I'm not much of an accessorizer actually.

3:57Like I'm very much like my everyday wears, but like I think that I suffer, like my looks suffer because of it. I don't know what I would do today, like with my little cardigan. But in general, like I really need a lesson in accessorizing. No, I don't think you do. You just like have bougie accessories on. So it just makes you look more elevated. You're just making the girly swirly top look more Chanel, you know? Thanks. This ring is all that fits me right now. Not my wedding ring, sadly. And this ring is usually on like this finger. Okay. But the fingers are swole. so we'll just leave it at that so even if i had all my like cute accessories they just don't fit right now okay but that's the thing about accessories they actually do always fit and so like it's nice to invest in things that you don't have to like worry about like your weight yeah exactly at least me i know and i'm trying to get pregnant right now so i'm like how am i gonna model the belts matt was like we'll just get you an extra large i'm like uh no other way how can you make a belt bigger you can't you can't make it smaller can we make it the sizes bigger yeah interesting how's that going thanks for sharing that you're trying to get pregnant we're trying we're out here trying and i'm pretty like early ish on the journey and i'm going to south of france next month and i'm i'm like i feel like for the aesthetic it would make it feels on brand for me to conceive in the south of france what methods are you using aside from you know sex you know but like ovulation tracking yeah so i'm using anito which is like you pee in a stick and then you put it into the thing and then yeah that's the main one i'm using yeah that's good yeah the stick peeing is like the most precise but i'm getting a little confused about the chart i'm just like oh well we used um pre-mom okay yeah claudia was the one who told me to and then you take a picture of your stick every day and it tells you like what level you're at i like this one better because I was like I had just a million sticks and I was like okay which one's darker like I was trying to read it and this one you just put into your phone and it reads it oh nice okay so it sounds similar what's it called for anyone in need oh in need oh sponsor me oh yeah I'm like I don't know if you're sponsored the toast too no pre-mom doesn't sponsor us either but it's just it's really great there are a lot of great things like that but it's important it's hard to get pregnant they don't tell you that I know and the funny thing is is like I'm such a prude I normally like my whole life I was never the type of person who like talked about my sex life yeah and now just like out the window like I'm with my girlfriends being like okay I had sex on this day you know like it's like you now enter this new era where you're totally fine discussing your sex life with people that's so funny I'm the same way I think I I think everyone would probably call me a prude as well but like when it comes down this is just business yeah this is business I know I'm like can't oh we gotta have sex have you ever said that before in your relationship like no absolutely not i never dirty texted with anyone i've never sent nude photos i've never done anything no now it's like let's go yeah yeah i'm like get your get your sperm over here eggplant emoji yeah well that's really beautiful i'm very excited for you it's a beautiful journey yeah wishing you like it yeah no it's it's fun but also like enjoy enjoy the time before as well what are you doing in the south of france you know just being pargy just like being pargy oh my gotta go get party content yeah yeah like no it's my favorite place the coast well yeah we're going to san tropez for a week with just my husband and i and then we're renting a house with our good friends who have four kids for a week oh fun i'm so excited that's how old are their kids they have two twin girls who just turned five yesterday i was at their unicorn birthday party it was the best day of my life then they have a son who's six and a son who's i think seven nice that's wow like four in three years that's crazy that's like Danny and Nia on the valley no but I'm obsessed I'm like I want this giant full family with so much life I don't know I love it I literally didn't want kids until I met them oh interesting yeah do you have a lot of siblings I have a brother but I'm not that close with him and yeah I don't know I more like career stuff I was kind of always just being weird about being like how am I gonna keep up work and You know, it's so hard.

8:06I find myself like having these thoughts or like these conversations with people all the time. I guess it's like the age that we're at and like in our careers, like it really it's a crossroads, but it doesn't have to be. But it feels like one. I know. And that's why I've been trying to shift my content a little bit. Like I just started vlogging again and like for YouTube and I've been loving it. I feel like I have this like whole new vibe where it's totally just being myself. like I'm saying shit that I'll totally get canceled for and I just don't care like after watching Paul American my brain chemistry changed and I was like I need to not give a fuck wait I love that energy I was gonna ask you if you watch Paul American because you remind me of Nina does anyone ever say that no but when you sat down I was like thinking who do you remind me of I just was watching you on TV and it's Nina interesting I've never heard that I I just think that their attitudes or just not caring because I feel like every year that goes by like I've been you you've been the same way I've been doing content for years like 10 years and I it's gotten to a place where I'm just so scared to even show even the tiniest bit of personality because I'm like I'm gonna get canceled yeah if I'm doing this bougie-ness and that and that's like you can get canceled for literally anything nowadays like I'll think about what I said and like then you think about like the way someone could interpret it and it's like well that's not what I said but if that's what you're going to think.

9:22Is it worth it? Exactly. So I've been very playing it like too safe the last few years where I'm just posting photos, no personality, nothing, like not sharing any bit of myself. And honestly, like a month ago, I was like, you know what? I'm actually a delight. I used that audio the other day, by the way, at the SI thing. I had to post it on TikTok being like, we are just such a delight. And it's true. You know what? I'm actually a nice person and I like I know where my intentions are right and you're like I know I'm a good person if I happen to come off in a way to someone that doesn't translate that way I know this doesn't mean that I'm that way I know who I am exactly and I can't live in fear it comes with age you can't live with fear and you have to like still have fun in the job like I feel like you could get to a place of like real burnout if like you're so curated curated and like in a box and just feeling like you can't make a move exactly and that's definitely where I was especially being this like aesthetic girly um i'm just like i'm actually kind of funny and fun and and you know so you're gonna fuck it up yeah so i'm like okay i'll just do it on a different platform what if i posted something ugly yeah i mean go to my husband's instagram you can see a million heinous photos of me unedited he's always just like popping those up i just mean like what if you post like a really like like yellowy picture and like sepia toe like no never never happen it would never happen um so where are you posting your person like you're on tiktok now like just having No, not even TikTok.

10:44Oh, vlogging. On YouTube. Yeah. Okay. Great. What's your YouTube channel? Cast Amigo. Okay. Check it out. Yeah. Can you tell me about your journey to becoming an influencer and a designer? Like, I don't know. I don't know how you got your start, but like, did you have success influencing? So you created a brand or your brand is what like gave you this platform? No, no, no. So I used to be an assistant buyer. I was like working in New York City. I was doing like product development, things like that. than I was doing influencing on the side to try to get a better job. I really wanted to, I was a buyer for Lord & Taylor, which is like lame, you know?

11:18And I really wanted to work for like Revolve, Shopbop, applying. I knew no one, I had no connections. No one was answering me. So I was like, okay, why don't I put my outfits on a blog? You know, this was a really long time ago. On a blog to show my taste to hopefully get a better job. So then it started to pick up. My Instagram started to pick up. I started to get brand deals that were more than what I was making at my job. So then I finally quit my job. And then I actually met my husband the week after I quit my job at Coachella, which is hilarious. What year was this? 2017. And then 2019, my husband was working in finance.

11:55He's a trader. He's like a total like type A dude. And we were like, what if we started a brand together? Because we would make like the perfect team. So here in the creative and like he's the - Like business, boring side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I'm like, you do the boring shit, sorry. So we started the brand together. So we started Orium together. And yeah, that's how it all came about. I feel like something that's also unique to Orium is like I actually design every single thing, you know? I'm not like doing any AliExpress things or anything sketchy. And I just, like, it's like my passion.

12:32It's literally such an extension of me. I care about it so much. And I feel like it's one of the most successful influencer brands. That's so nice. Yeah. I feel like I heard of Oriom like before I even knew you. Yeah. A lot of people say that to me. Which is like, that's unheard of. That is the goal. That it's so separate from you. Like that you just seem like a founder. And then it's like, oh, she is a huge influencer. Yeah. Yeah. That's what this is born from. Well, that's really nice of you because I don't feel that way. Congrats to you. You don't feel that way. No. How do you see it? I see it as like, Oriom is just.

13:03It doesn't feel like influencer merch. I feel like I'm using, I'm definitely playing the long game, you know, like, which is what I try to tell myself when I were not growing as fast as I wish we were. Where I'm like, okay, we're doing everything right. And we're creating product that someone wants outside of me. I don't want someone to just, you know, it's just a different game, right? Like when you're selling merch or something and someone's buying it because they just love you. That's like one thing. But I always wanted to create product that people would love, even if they had no idea who I am, which is definitely what we have achieved.

13:33Yeah. So where can everyone check out Aurium as well? Yeah. So Aurium is Aurium.collective. I can make like a code if anyone wants to try to shop. Oh my God, we love a code. I need some sunglasses. Or Jack's 20? Toast 20. Toast 20. Okay. Oh my God. Thanks so much. We love Toast 20. I'm going to shop it too. Thanks. I need some belts. I need some accessories. Okay. I would have brought you stuff. No, I know. But I want to support like a toaster own business. That's very nice. I mean, it's actually crazy the amount of influencers and celebrities that purchase from us. Yeah. Crazy. Didn't Hailey Bieber wear your earrings?

14:05Yeah. Yeah. She's worn. We've been on like every celebrity. It's been crazy. Sick. Yeah. Good for you. Well, I'm so excited. This confluence of like you wanting to like put yourself out there more on the internet and coming on the toast really couldn't come at a better time. No, totally. Like I'm always joking. I'm like for anyone listening, like you too can become fan, super fan, co-host. Co-host. Yeah. Dreams come true. How long have you been listening to the toast? Okay. So that's the part I'm not that proud of. Like I started like early in the beginning of the year last year. Okay. Better late than never.

14:39Yeah. So like I'm coming up on probably like a little over a year and a half. Well, happy anniversary. And whenever you guys take a break, I'm like, okay, maybe I go back to old episodes. Oh, that's fun. And we'll do that this summer. We're going to really release like some of our most popular, funniest episodes where so many of our inside jokes come from. Yeah. So when we're off, like just stay, look out for those. Watch this space. Yeah. Okay. Well, great. I'm so excited you're here. We're going to do Fast Five today. We're going to get your opinions on things. And also you're kind of close to some of the stories because you were at swimsuit week in Miami.

15:09It's like a big week in Florida right now. You also live in Florida. I'm sorry. We didn't even touch on that. Which is so exciting when I was like, I need Florida co-hosts. Like, who are the girlies in Florida? You're the first name that came to mind. No, I appreciate that. Did you see how I answered the email in 0.1 second? I think you guys emailed me at 10.05. I think I responded at 10.05. I think you were also the first person to confirm. In all caps. Being like, yes! hence why she's the first guest i was like way to not play cool whatsoever it's an order of response i was like me i'm available amazing well we're so glad that you're here and just a couple of florida girlies former new york girlies yeah we've moved down to the sunshine state and i know just living the best life living now we gotta get claudia to move i'm working on it too behind the scenes don't you worry because I feel like your job and working on getting her to move here is actually very important to the equation because like of course I bring like the love and the family and like yeah the the steamy vibes no no no no but like you bring the cool factor like I think a lot of the reason why she doesn't want to move here it's like she thinks it's not the coolest because I don't do cool things like I don't show an attractive like you know I don't make that enticing because I'm not like I don't go out I'm a homebody like I have two small children like what am I doing but like when she sees you and it's like oh I could still do this do that parties Carbone, bus club, another club.

16:30So that's really important. That's like the thing that's missing for her about moving down here. The influencer scene in Miami is the coolest influencer scene, if I do say so myself. Can you please elaborate? Because that's what will move the needle for her. Okay, because one, everyone is a mom and everyone is, so everyone is so secure in themselves. Like every single girl is so nice. So, you know, I just show up to an event. If I say, I don't know anyone going, I don't even care because I know everyone's just so friendly and like a vibe and everyone's in their own world and has like a real life outside of being an influencer.

17:03And everyone is just like also super inspiring. Like all of them have multiple kids and then are very hardworking influencers. Like they're, everyone is just cool. And there's, and there's a lot of events. Yeah. And there's tons of events and there's like the perfect amount. Like when I've lived in New York, I remember going to multiple events every night of my life. I was like, this is too much. I need a real life. And I also just i love having friends who aren't influencers too obviously that's how you like stay normal right and the like i feel like it's like the perfect balance yeah how long have you lived in florida i moved uh in the beginning of 2021 what about you i moved in 2022 okay yeah yeah nice what brought you down here i during covid my husband's parents have a place on the other coast of florida and when we were in new york city wanting to kill ourselves because it was the worst place in the world to be in during the worst place in the world actually the worst and they were like okay why don't you spend a month at our house because they're canadian so they weren't there so we were like okay so we went down there fell in love with just florida yeah you know going to tennis and walking and working out and sun in december and no seasonal depression and then we were like okay we can't live in a literal retirement community so we moved to miami with like out knowing anything about miami nice and where you moved immediately is that where you've stayed no so when i first moved to miami i lived in the ritz in sunny isles pargelish no the pargiest place on earth oh i thought you were about to be like no not no it was actually too good like i was like this i don't deserve to be doing this at 30 years old you can we had beach service you know you charge your drinks and food to your part unit number so you were renting an apartment there renting an apartment there yeah gargy yeah it was too gargy that claudia you can rent an apartment at the ritz yeah it was it was like too good to be true she would love that yeah no it was amazing and then we were really far north because we were in sunny isles so but that's a great place for yeah yeah sunny isles parge and then so now we live we bought a place in edgewater and now i'm hoping to buy a house in the next like year are you more of an apartment girl or a house girl no So now I really want a house.

19:15I'm dying for a house. I'm over the condo. Yeah. I love house. It's nice. Especially because I have two dogs now. I just adopted a dog. Oh, you just adopted a dog. I just rescued a dog. Yeah. Oh, look at you. His name is Grumpelstiltskin. That's so cute. How old is he? He's four. Nice. Bruno's age. They should have a play date. I know. I was going to ask you if you were going to bring Bruno. No, I actually thought about it because I brought a bunch of set decor, by the way. Look at our set. And we're going to build it out every single day. but I just brought a couple of items from home to make it feel like home.

19:42And I was thinking, Oh, I love, I was thinking I need to bring Bruno. Yeah. Like he's the ultimate accessory. Exactly. Support of the show. Next time. Next time we record together. I feel like today's a great advertisement for Florida. Yeah. Like the governor needs to give me a key to the state. And I feel like this whole month is going to be that way because we're recording in Florida. A lot of Florida based guests. Once I was doing this, I realized how many people live here. Yeah. It's a great place to be. Yeah. It's the best. Come on down. Today's episode is brought to you by the Florida Tourism Board.

20:13Okay, so let's get into the story, shall we? Okay, perfect. We have a lot to discuss because when we wrapped on Friday, major news broke 10 minutes later and I never got a chance to discuss it. So I'm glad that you're here to help me break down the stories, the Fast Five stories that you do-do-do-do-do need to know. Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Carraway, which is so funny because my life is brought to you by Carraway. Carraway is non-toxic cookware made modern. which is amazing to be non-toxic. Like, of course, we are granola crunchy queens, and we're living a low-tox lifestyle.

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25:21The vibe is immaculate. And if you haven't peeped the new Robac yet, this is your sign. Also, this is your code because the code toast on Robac.com will get you a generous 20 % off your first order through the end of this week. That's spelled R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Code toast. Get on it, ladies. Okay. Our first story, major Taylor Swift news. Before we get into it, like where do you rank on the Swifty scale? Like I'm not extreme okay but I'm I'm there okay so you're like me yeah but I don't know I know where your story you're about to tell and I'm not as caught up on like the scooter run oh okay I'll be happy to catch you up and that will also be good for the class in case anyone else is like you know just like a normal average person and like doesn't know um every single detail about this but Taylor Swift bought back her catalog of music she announced on Friday that she now owns every piece of work she's ever made albums photos music videos vault tracks just like anything that she had made that got sold to Scooter Braun when he acquired Big Machine Records right that was the one Scott Borchetta Big Machine yeah I think so um so what happened a few years ago was Taylor Swift was like an artist on a record label doing her thing as artists too she was with Big Machine when she like first got her start so all of the albums that she made were owned by Big Machine which is how like the music industry works and then eventually i think she left big machine she went to universal or something but her albums were still there and that's just again how things work um but then scooter brawn like came in and acquired big machine which meant that he got the rights to all of her music and they have beef they had beef because he was he's like in the justin bieber kanye camp at the time that she was beefing with kanye there's like a notorious his FaceTime where so he seemed to be like part of that team so for that person to then go and and buy have the rights to her music in addition to everything else that big machine owns but like for her it's very personal um she was livid yeah very very livid and so much so that she went and re-recorded she started to re-record all those old albums this I knew so that no so that her fans could listen to it and it not profit them yeah so she recorded fearless red 1989 and it became like a huge thing for her and then she went on the eras tour where she's like re-singing these songs and everyone got to relive them and like not only is she releasing new music but she's like re-releasing her old music so there was just like so it actually wound up being like a really fun positive thing like something that good that came out of a negative thing and we were just used to like her doing all these re-recordings to get back all of her songs so that everyone could stream her own music.

28:02Reputation was the next album that was supposed to come out. Everyone at the AMAs last week thought she was about to announce Reputation Taylor's version. And instead, on Friday, she announced that she bought all of her music back. So she put out a really long handwritten note saying how this came to be, that she's so over the moon, didn't think that this would happen, but it came about and she was able to buy her music. And that actually, she was re-recording Reputation. She didn't even get 25 % of the way through it because that album is very much a moment in time. And to like, kind of jump back into that, those feelings, like it wasn't really working and now she doesn't have to because she owns the old reputation.

28:41So she said she'll still release like the vault songs from Reputation. She rerecorded her first album debut, which hasn't come out yet. She really liked that. I think that might still come out and which is just like a fun moment for the fans and she gets to make like double the money now. But now everyone can go and listen to like the old songs, even though they're the same as the new rerecordings, like it's just different, you know? Wait, so how much did she have to pay? I think she paid like upwards of 300 million dollars that's what I have been seeing I don't know if that's confirmed but that's like roughly what it is and now that she and those records were like getting devalued every day that she put out new music like so it made sense for the person who owned them to sell them and Scooter no longer owned them he had sold them to Shamrock something his company's Ithaca they sold to Shamrock it was said that like he still benefited from them for a while so she didn't want to buy them she didn't ever want to like buy them and like put money in his pocket but in some way he must have divested and she was able to buy them it did not benefit him at all and now the value will go up so it's really she's the only person that could buy them and them not continue to decrease in value it's just so interesting so now everyone's going to just listen to all the different versions everyone can listen to all the different versions like so many of like the super fans are like oh thank god because 1989 was not as good and i actually I never like really thought about it but I totally agree like and also so many of the songs were just like a moment in time like I'm fearless when she's like singing them she's 19 years old and now you sing them again you rerecord them as 33 and like but they're just they're kind of immature and a sweet they're like naive and it just doesn't make sense to be like not the same emotion it's not the same emotion I'm just like wide-eyed innocent so we are the Swifty nation is yeah what a power move I would say we, even though I am a Swifty, you guys don't think I'm one, but I'm a fan of Taylor Swift.

30:24So I'm a Swifty, but you did leave the concert early. Not big enough for you bitches. And I did leave the concert early. Because you were pregnant. Because Claudia was pregnant. Oh, because Claudia was pregnant. But everyone, like I said, we left the concert early. Well, I mostly leave concerts early. I even left Rascal Flatts early. I traveled three hours across the state of Florida. I stayed in a hotel to see Rascal Flatts. And I even left that concert early because I leave concerts early to beat traffic. Yeah, that makes sense. It makes perfect sense. So that's like, I was happy to say, yeah, we left Taylor Swift early because like I like to leave early.

30:52We really left early because Claudia was struggling. Yeah. But like no one knew that she was pregnant yet. So like I just took all the, oh my God. No, I remember. I remember. And I hope they feel stupid now. Okay. You never know what a person's going through. Yeah, they could be pregnant. They could be pregnant and struggling. Yeah. So I'm just being a good sister. And all is to say, I am a Swiftie. I love her music. I've always loved her music. And this just feels like nature is healing. Yeah, for sure. It's a big win for the swirls. For the swirls, for the Swifties. So you're just like a passive Taylor Swift listener.

31:22Yeah, yeah. And so you weren't like having a block party when you heard the news, which is really crazy of you. No, I'm not trying. I'm trying not to get canceled today. Oh, don't piss off the Swifties. I know, I know. I know we want to speak our minds and be interesting, but I would just say a couple of third rails to avoid. No, trust me. I know. Messing with the Swifties is not worth it. even though you're all wrong all the time i just like i have i can't i can't no i once got canceled by the harry styles fans what'd you do i was on my friend's story and she we were doing like fuck mary kill or something and i said kill harry styles and i got all attacked so like bad like tomato tomato tomato tomatoes on all my photos on everything people coming for me who did it with My friend Emma.

32:10Was it on her story? It was on her story, but she must have had crazy Harry Styles fans. I got put on some Twitter. Emma who? Famous? Emma Leger. Oh, queen. Love her. Yeah, we love. Like on some Twitter account or something. Like a Harry Styles fan account. That's really crazy. So they all came for me. It was really scary. It wasn't serious. It was hilarious. It was like, yeah, no, like that's really deranged. Yeah. Damn. So I'm a big Swifty. Yeah, love. No, I'm really happy for Taylor. This just makes sense. I feel like everything is whole again. Swifty Nation, like we're not split SVs versus TVs, Scooter's versions versus Taylor's versions.

32:45Like everyone can listen to the music that they want. Taylor benefits from all of her work in perpetuity. And it must just be nice. Even the smaller things that she was saying, like music videos, photos, just any scrap of paper. It should work like that. She should own everything. Yeah. But the music industry is just, it's built this way. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I don't know enough about it to say like it's wrong or it's right or this would be a better model. And you see artists like talking about it a lot because it's it's definitely imperfect. But like I think, you know, it's like 10 percent of the talent pays for like the 90 percent of the other people who don't make as much.

33:19And that's how they are able to like invest in new artists. So I don't know. There's got to be a better way. But don't look at me to solve the issue. I'll just complain about it. You know, that's we'll report on it. That's always helpful. Yeah. Someone who complains and doesn't help.

33:36Well, you're doing your job, you know. We're giving the story today, so. No, it's really celebratory news for the Swifties. I'm happy for everyone. And I think everyone had a really good weekend, like, streaming. Oh, and then this news is going to be, like, everyone's going to listen to Celebrate, listen. And then the songs, like, just resurface again. So it just, like, it's just a net positive, I think. It's a win for everyone. Yeah, for sure. so I hope everyone enjoyed their weekend of listening to Taylor Swift and also she's like back stepping out she was out to dinner with Selina in New York City this weekend they went to what's that new play oh no not not with Blake Monkey Bar not not where do you stand I don't know they both just seem like the worst at this point it's very messy it's like every guest that comes on for co-host week I have to ask them like what do you think about Taylor Swift what do you think about Blake and Taylor where do you see like there's like a launcher this is like where do you stand on the issues because what last we heard was that Blake might have been threatening Taylor right yeah it's hard to know if that's true you can't everything's fake news nowadays you don't know what's going on there's a lot of that too it's a lot of confusion like what's true what's not what's being made into a bigger deal than it was and what is actually a big deal but the whole feud to me is just like oh my god it's too much yeah going on for too long too many things And the trial is set for March, 2026.

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34:52So like get used to it. Yeah. It's going to be fun. Okay. So Taylor and Selena rat at monkey bar. So she's like coming back out and she's having fun. Have you been to monkey bar? It's in the city. I'm like the type of person where my husband makes the reservation and I'm just there. Oh, nice. I don't think I've been. Joey Camasta was just talking about it though. That's a good restaurant. So check it out. Yum. They don't have one in Florida though. So no, they don't. But like, that's like, they have to bring one here. everything that's like good in New York comes here and that's also nice do you go out to dine a lot?

35:25it depends, yeah do you like to cook? I'm trying it can be done I would love to be able to make sourdough oh my god, I would love to help you I should have brought you starter if I knew you were semi-interested you don't even have to start today if I bring it to you you can put it in your fridge until you're ready unless you have a friend who makes sourdough like local no, neither did I I couldn't even make banana bread I tried to make banana bread the other day and it was disgusting oh well like that's the level i'm at right now i'm working on myself do you follow a recipe yeah and i messed it up how what'd you do wrong you forgot the sugar okay at least you know like i like following a recipe is really like paint by numbers like i know it's like a moron can do it but you know then there's me so yeah no but i just want to say like when i got married or even right before i had kids like i never cooked a day in my life oh okay there's hope for me there's hope for anyone like if I can learn how to cook anyone can learn how to cook it can be done and you're like at the advanced level sourdough is advanced I would say oh sourdough is advanced baking but I don't do other baking and then for cooking I'm very intermediate like I still have to follow a recipe I don't just sort of like whip something up yeah but um if it tastes good who cares yeah if I don't know my husband's a great cook oh well that's you only really need one in the family exactly yeah that's like Claudia and Ben yeah are you ready for our next story which is some happy couple news.

36:47I wonder who's the cook between Haley Steinfeld and Josh Allen. They got married in California this weekend, which is so like normal and quick. It's actually fast even for normies. Yeah. Most people do a one year engagement. I don't even think they were engaged for a year. Shotgun wedding. Just kidding. I don't know. It's hard to tell. The photos are so blurry. You can't even see her dress or anything. Yeah. We haven't gotten like the photos yet. I don't know if she'll do vogue or she'll post them herself they are very private we got like some aerial photos of her and josh at the altar of her and her dad larry david was there wow that's interesting guest of whom you know i don't know i i don't think josh yeah where did they have the wedding in ventura california i'm not familiar i'm not familiar either which is also funny because like he's from the bills in new york i wouldn't think them as like a california coastal wedding yeah i don't know what i would tap maybe because most of their friends are in california maybe but everything that they do surprises me in a nice way yeah it's like shockingly normal i feel like if they were private about their wedding that's kind of iconic i feel like that nowadays that's cooler to be private yeah isn't it cool to have like a content assistant who like take i think that's only if you're on the coming up if you're on the come okay so if you're there already so no vogue you would say is like what's the coolest way to do it yeah I guess you would do vogue like you have to feed the people and like yeah she looks really beautiful and like as a society we need to be inspired by beauty you know and like fashion and like she needs to set the bar what are the 2025 brides wearing we need to know hailey steinfeld I know that's why I'm like what are these blurry photos what'd you wear to your wedding oh I was a covid bride oh I was supposed to get married in marrakesh then I ended up doing like a 10 person wedding in Italy but I have no regrets it was the best do you still wear the same dress as you would have worn yeah so i bought my dress for marrakesh so it was like so it was like long sleeve and ornate it wasn't big it was like tight just straight but long sleeve lace if i could do it again i would do it differently even if you were getting married in marrakesh it'd be a different dress no but i so i ended up getting married in tuscany i would probably just go more like poofy classy kind of vibe understood my style has evolved too what did you wear to your wearing i wore a carolina herrera a three-tiered um if you saw it now like you'd be like oh yeah that's a normal style that people wear but I was the first to do it I'll pull up a picture I think you will like it I'm sure you were parched no I was so parched I wouldn't change where did you do it I got married at the pier in New York City oh iconic yeah I wouldn't change a hair on my head and I wore my hair down for the ceremony and my hair up for the party which is another decision I stand by wow but like so now like people have worn dresses like this and it's like valentino makes them like a lot of people but when i tried this dress i'd never seen like a three-tier like cupcake dress like no i'm obsessed it's like the perfect mix of classic but like it's still kind of editorial and like fun because i'm a fun girl you know and like i still gotta be me yeah but i am getting married and like so i got married in 2019 or six years on now i still feel so good about the look and so i feel like i will feel that way forever i wouldn't yeah i wouldn't have done anything differently yeah that's fair I'm sorry you don't feel that way but also you're a COVID bride Can I see your wedding dress?

40:07I don't have my phone I can show it to you after How convenient You can probably google it Yeah that's what I just did for myself I had a lot of looks Because my wedding was basically a week long trip throughout Italy With 10 people? Yeah with just my immediate family It was actually the best I have no regrets Despite what I do I actually despise attention I don't like attention I'm the same and I feel like no one will believe me no matter how many times I try and tell you guys that but I am the same I'm very shy yeah like I can't give a speech at like a wedding or something oh my god I would literally I get so nervous I've only had to do it a few times oh you were in brides yeah so so I had like other cool looks yeah for my wedding really gorgeous but my wedding venue was cool I mean this is really beautiful like I when I see this I don't think like oh she had a COVID wedding you know you did it you did it right um if you could get married again now like what would you do not being a COVID bride the same thing honestly I feel like I'm not the type of person that's like my wedding is the best day of my life like I'm just not that person at all but it's so easy to get sucked into it exactly and that's why I'm glad I did what I did it was just how many people were you gonna have in Marrakesh not that crazy It was going to be like 80 or 90.

41:29Okay, that's so crazy. Yeah, but I loved having a small wedding. Highly recommend. Yeah, highly recommend. That's another recurring conversation I'm having during Jackson Friends. It's like, so what was your wedding like? What kind of bride were you? Yeah, I feel like now you could go two ways. You could either like really try to capitalize on it as an influencer or be a little bit more low-key about it. Yeah, yeah. I guess in hindsight, I capitalized it on it as an influencer, though that was not what I set out to do. I just, I had a big wedding. You just got sucked in. I just got sucked into like wedding.

41:58And then it happened to be something that like people really enjoyed following. But it was very genuine. Like, yeah, I didn't have a content assistant. Like I kind of wish that I did now because now my anniversary, I feel like I find myself posting with the same 10 photos and I wish I had more photos. Well, you need more photos with your husband just in general. Oh, well, yeah. Unless it's his birthday. Like we never take a picture together. And like, you know, I'm in a transitional period in my life. Like I want to post photos from 2019. like yeah you know until i get to the other side of what i've got going on here no you look amazing thank you so much it's really sweet of you to say but like until i get to the other side like we're not taking a million photos and like whenever we take pictures like it really is with our kids like who's taking a picture of the two of us tripod tripod like i will be in the south of france with a tripod no shame you so you set up like three like the legs and everything yep does your husband take a lot of your pictures does he have the eye like you do he does have the eye and he only takes my photos now when we're on vacation because you know obviously i have an actual employee who's an assistant like my husband's not trying to be my everyday assistant so he but he crushes the photos he's he's great at it and anytime he's in my content it does so much better and he obviously rubs it in my face being like you need me for engagement you need me your views look low because i'm not in it like he totally torments me but he also is like very well dressed like fashion yeah You guys together are like that.

43:24Yeah, and he dresses himself. That's him. Oh, nice. Yeah. And how do you guys like working together? Well, I hope you like it. There's my PR answer and there's my real answer. It must be hard. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard because we're also just so different. I'm like rainbows and butterflies and I want to have fun. Even when I'm working, I want it to feel fun and be fun. And he's very serious and type A and business. and but there's a lot of pros and cons but at the end of the day like the bond of like building something together is like unbreakable and and what's the pr answer about the bond yeah that's my pr answer and then my real answer is like it's challenging like yeah we are like i'm type b he's type a we have no like boundaries but we are also obsessed with each other we spend every waking second together were like freaks yeah yeah i love that i love freakiness well mazlis hope to haley and josh we look forward to seeing more photos um but they really could do no wrong in my eyes they're quickly becoming like one of my favorite couples of all time yeah yeah what teams do you root for do you root for florida teams i root for change the channel i don't want to fucking watch i feel like that's the thing about florida like everyone who moves here are transplants so like the sports teams like don't really get a lot of love because everyone's like has ties to back home yeah you know like we still root for the cowboys because my husband's a cowboys fan um but go dolphins you know like i would love to see like i would love to see the dolphins in the super bowl like things up baby i need to improve my sports skills especially what if i get a son you know yeah no i'm my husband's a sports person he used to play hockey so oh go off where'd he play hockey like in college yeah he played hockey at harvard and then he was went to go semi-pro or something i don't even know to be honest where'd you go to college marist probably've never heard of it i have m-a-r-i-s-t yeah it's in upstate new york it's like a small school so did i in upstate new york a small school i went to colgate no way where in upstate new york were you poughkeepsie poughkeepsie is nice and it's not nearly as far from the city as where i was and Snookies from Poughkeepsie.

45:37Were they very proud of her when you were there? Did they have pictures of her all over town? I feel like I do remember being like, okay, this is a bar Snookies comes to sometimes. And we were like, cool. Cool. Cool. Well, that is really funny. Okay, our next story. Actually, you are our insider because SI Swimsuit Runway Show took place at Swim Week this week. So Swim Week is taking place in Miami right now. And the big news is the Sports Illustrated Runway as it usually is but I feel like it was even bigger this year they had their usual models their cover stars they also had a lot of like influencers and um not you know first-time models like Stassi yeah and Bethany Frankel were like the two that jumped out to me and they looked amazing yeah so I actually got to go Remy invited me to come see her and the vibes were 10 out of 10 It was just such a cool, fun night for women.

46:32Like when Bethany Frankel came out, I cannot even begin to tell you. I was like, no way is that her. First of all, she gave no fucks. Like she her energy was just like, I'm fucking here, baby. Like, let's go. Like she was just shaking her ass. She looked unbelievable. She looked unbelievable. So it's probably like easy to have that energy when you look so amazing. Yes. But like it was it was like deeper than that. like you her it was like her energy you know like her energy was just so inspiring you know to that's that's such a nice thing to like say yeah like it was just like she was just like yeah like i'm bethany i'm here and she was like probably had like one of the most like biggest energy there and then stassi was amazing she looked phenomenal her body looked insane and i know how before she was like being like oh i'm jiggly like girl no you're not a bitch you weren't jiggly at all your body was tight yeah um she looked amazing remy looked amazing remy was obviously serving it like yeah she had like such a sweet caption about her body and like the surgery and everything she's been going through obviously everyone if you don't like remy like get a life god like she's the best and like leave remy alone yeah leave me alone um who else alex earl obviously just looked stunning like i was like no surprise she's perfect um i didn't i got into the splits oh yeah she was amazing i wasn't familiar with like every single person that walked down the runway but the vibes were just awesome and everyone looked great and it was just like so many body types and ages and everything it was very cool no it really looked amazing and i have to give sports illustrated their flowers because it even translated like to the viewers and i've been really hard on them because I think that their like recent covers choices are just like so stupid.

48:21They just need to, they need to. Well, you were there. So like. No, no. I just think that for like the editorial side, they could do a better job. And I felt like the bikinis, like the fashion was not good. Yeah. I feel like I'm allowed to say that. The photos, like Claudia, like some of the, even photos that made it to the cover, like looked like something that someone takes on for their Instagram on vacation. Like it's just the bar needs to be higher. And I will never, like, even if you had my four favorite people in the world, like I want one cover star every year. Like I just feel like it's so much more iconic.

48:49Yeah. And I think the fat, like the swim that they're choosing and the looks could be better. Oh, better swim, better accessories. Better everything. Yeah, I agree. I didn't love some of the swimsuit choices. It's not iconic. I already like forget who was on the cover. I remember from this year because it was three weeks ago, but like last year we already forgot. The year before we already forgot, but I could tell you who was on the cover in 2014. Didn't forget. Kate Upton, never forget. Yeah, that was iconic. Yeah. And obviously Nina was on the cover at one point. the three girls like that was such an iconic photo we don't get those sorts of photos anymore so um i still feel that way sorry to interrupt you um i'm also obsessed with um some hike oh yeah so it was iconic yeah even if she was the only cover like cool okay like make a choice stunning because like before they walked there was a video playing of like the shoots and stuff she didn't walk obviously i feel like that would have been she doesn't need to do that yeah um like of her at the shoot and she looked phenomenal.

49:46I'm like, I get why you're married to a billionaire. Like it adds up. It adds up. No, it looks really, really awesome. I'm glad that you were there and are able to tell us that, yes, it was actually more awesome than it looked. Yeah, yeah. The vibes were parched. Nice. Do you do anything else for swimsuit week? Yes, I went to like the Monday show. That was amazing too. Like when I got - Monday swimwear? Yeah, Monday swimwear. Influence our own brand. Yeah, exactly. And two best friends. So when that was such a cool show, like that was such a cool show with them walking down at the end because it was just, I don't know, the girl camaraderie of two best friends building like they, Monday is a big brand.

50:27Like they're very successful. And so to see them still being close, like after like 10 plus years, however long they've had the brand, you know, running it with the bestie. It's cool. It's amazing. It is really cool. I feel like swimsuit week is really on the up like the last few years. I feel like it was one of those like fashion weeks that could maybe have like fallen by the wayside. No, it is. It's an acquired taste. Obviously, I've been to like real fashion week and it's polar opposite vibes. But I feel like it's getting so much buzz and like so much love and like so many people come in for it.

50:57And it's like really something that could have gone away maybe a few years ago or just been like for buyers and stuff. And now it's having like a renaissance. I think it's also because real fashion week is now just becoming so boring. yeah no this is fun yeah this is fun and people you want to see and like dancing down the thing and smiling and and it's just like pargy vibes versus like you know like so serious like every time i go to fashion week i would get depressed and now i don't go anymore and you were not depressed the serotonin levels were high it's just it's fun i wore like this blue tight sparkly dress with like shell boobies like i normally would never be leaving the house like that but i'm like okay I went in Miami swim week let's go that's so fun yeah okay awesome is it still going on no no it was like last like this weekend yeah it's done okay well I enjoyed it while it lasted today's episode is also brought to you by Armra Colostrum the name on everybody's lips is Armra and it's also Colostrum because once you've entered the Colostrum game there is no going back so if you don't know because we don't talk about Colostrum enough on our show which I feel like we do a good job of keeping the population abreast of the benefits of the colostrum.

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56:39It's about preserving your family's legacy so future generations can experience these moments too. That's so true. I'm just thinking about myself, but like think about your kids and your grandkids. They're going to want to see you dancing to Spice Girls in your living room, right? Legacy Box is the place to do that. Are you ready for our next story? I am. Little Miley news. Miley's been in the news a lot because her new album, and not Endless Summer, that was like three albums ago, something beautiful just came out. And she is opening up about how she feels about her dad's relationship with Elizabeth Hurley, which is what we want to know.

57:08So Miley said she's handling her parents' new relationships like a grownup. She shared her feelings on her father, Billy Ray's romance with Elizabeth Hurley during Saturday's episode of Interview Podcast, not the toast, explaining that she's being an adult about the situation. She said, at first it's hard because the little kid in you reacts before the adult in you can go, yes, that's your dad, but that's just another person that deserves to be in his bliss and to be happy. She said, so my adult self has caught up. So I guess at first she was taken off guard a little bit and now she is cool with it.

57:37She said, I think timing is everything. You know, there's been enough bridges now of time to get us all reconnected in regards to her repairing her relationship with her dad and her whole family kind of coming back together. She added that she's had to learn to respect her parents as individuals. I just want to say, even if it was like her kid brain reacting to her dad but it's like Elizabeth Hurley like even my kid brain would be like oh my god fun yeah bedazzled queen I feel like I feel bad with how much drama there is with her and her family it's like okay no amount of success and money in the world can take away and I feel like family is as much as they can put a lid on it like even if it's not what's under the lid is like still not healed like I want them to close the lid and work it out as a family like it was getting really public and ugly yeah and i think billy ray is doing better i think if he can like hold down his relationship with a woman like elizabeth hurley who seems to be like of sound mind and really successful um then he must be okay not like the person who performed at the inauguration maybe she's forcing him to get therapy i think so like i think she's helping him yeah and that is good for his relationship with other members of his family so like i'm gonna choose to like just see it as rosy and like oh yeah he she fixed him he is good yeah billy good it'll never be like how it was on hannah montana what was your favorite show growing up spongebob like even when you were in high school in high school like the hills and all that oh yeah okay you went straight from spongebob to little yeah yeah yeah no in between no in between oh you know what my favorite like my super sweet 16 and oh okay you were on mtv yeah that's good did you ever watch fat camp on mtv no i know you guys were on it but i know i didn't watch it did you see me did you see my first appearance like i literally that's of everything i'll ever do in my life and we do cool stuff like you're here on the toes nothing will ever be cooler than being on MTV's fat camp and like my only regret in life is not signing the waiver that I would be on television because then they would have put me in it more so a little behind the scenes scoop is that I'd never signed the waiver the consent form to like be on TV and so they had this one scene and they wound up putting my face on it I'm glad they didn't blur me out imagine how sad that would be but it was like like no one at my school knew I went to fat camp and I didn't want to like just blow up my spot and like my for my sisters too like no one knew that we went there so like no I don't want to be on TV but I didn't like ever say I don't want like a part of me wanted to just like be on it a little bit which is exactly what I got but if I had signed the waiver early in the summer like they would have included me more the two girls Adisa and Logan were in my division so like I was at activities with them and stuff but they like they're not going to put the camera on people who don't want to yeah I'm going to argue with you and say that being on fat camp show wasn't your peak not my oh oh do you see me I was so skinny I'm sure this show gets more views than that show did.

1:00:36I was so skinny. Like it was just a moment in time. Like it's so iconic. Oh no, you like live in those. Never to be replicated. Never to be duplicated. There's still time. Maybe you could be like on Housewives of Florida one day. You never know. No, I don't want to be on TV ever. No, I know. I don't either. And that's why I never signed the form. But I just wish in that one moment, like for my future self, even though it probably would have been painful in the moment, maybe I would have been bullied. Maybe it would have knocked me down so bad that I couldn't have the confidence to do this what I'm doing right.

1:01:05Everything happens for a reason. It's true. But, you know, coulda, woulda, shoulda. Anyways, back to the Cyrus family drama. Oh, and Miley's album came out on Friday, which like to know like nothing happened, which is just so weird. Like I don't know why her PR and like her team is just so like illegitimate sometimes. Like you would think that the rollout would be more bussing. It's just not. They need to pay some tech doctors to use the audio or something. at least yeah i don't know why she i feel like she always slips through the cracks as an artist and she's always having to like fight for legitimacy and it's like yes everyone needs to respect you and everyone sleeps on miley all the time it's disgusting but on the other hand like your teen stinks yeah i know i i feel like that too i feel like i don't she could be taylor swift level if she was like playing the cards right yeah it's like the marketing and the roll outs like the roll out is not rolling yeah i haven't heard any of the music i have one song end of the world I have that saved on my like songs I started listening to the album but the prelude like was really painful she's like talking and and it's just like it was not my vibe yeah um but that's also like Miley's gonna Miley you know as much as I love her so much like there are parts of her that I can't relate to because she's so artistic and like yeah that that's what's hard it's like you have to be super commercial there's a fine balance of being commercial and being she won't do it yourself commercial she won't do it yeah she's just she's just being Miley but she clearly doesn't care like she just wants to be herself but then i do also think she has a chip on her shoulder like even at the grammys like in every speech she's like finally you bitches nominated me like she has a chip but she also doesn't care i guess it's like kind of like you guys but like you don't actually need to have a chip no no no because i had billboard the other chip is essential it's essential it's essential to the to the keeping focus i think so i think it's essential to our personalities yeah um and the thing is like so many things happen and it validates the chip like yeah we are so overlooked don't you find no i don't find you don't from an outsider's point of view like you feel like we get our flowers yes that's nice to hear yeah i feel like i'll hopefully i'll bring in like a totally different type of audience today i look forward to it like please come on over you guys you will love it you will love it i feel like a lot of like Like our girls know you, know Oriam.

1:03:27You think so? I do, but not enough. Like I think there's more synergy to be had here. Yeah. Because my demos is a little older. Oh, is it? We love older. Yeah. How old are you? I'm 34. Oh, nice. How old are you? 32. Yeah. Interesting. I'm a millennial to my core. Are you? Good. Okay. I can't be Gen Z. Millennials are like having a renaissance. Ever since Gen Z like really fumbled the bag, like everyone loves millennials again. what's like the do you know the percent of what gen z is the toast well it's like 18 to 35 is like the demo we get and that's like mostly everyone who listens to the show yeah not everyone but like a i don't know 90 i'm just making it up but that feels right yeah yeah are you ready for our fifth and final story yeah which is just a little update on an ongoing story um regarding jojo siwa and her big brother co-star chris hughes because after weeks of them like flirting on the show her like renouncing her status as a lesbian they are officially in a relationship or like yeah he posted a picture of them like naked in bed saying sleeping beauty so like yeah i'm gonna call this one very hard launch they're together i before this picture i saw like other pictures of them i think they were on vacation and like i they weren't they were being very coupley but in the way that could be like oh no we're just friends and i'm like if they tried to even fucking pull this shit of like we're just friends like no you're not um and now they are admitting that they went full in bed pick that's aggressive I know but they're both like internet people like that's what people do so yeah that's a relationship and I'm glad you know what I'm actually weird I'm glad that they're giving it a shot I don't know how it will work because I don't know either of them um but like I think they're like this whole dynamic from the show and like her exploring and like finding herself like I think she needs to see this through whether it works out or not like she has to go down this road of Chris Hughes.

1:05:18For sure. I also think she is kind of like a child star. And as we know, lots of the child stars have a lot of like trauma and things to work through. I saw the funniest TikTok the other day, actually, that was this like Gen Z girl being like, Jojo Siwa, a lesbian, got a boyfriend and I still can't get a boyfriend. And I was like, oh, I get why some of the Gen Z girlies are being like, I can't get a boyfriend, but jojo siwa can girls boys whatever yeah yeah it's true but i mean let it be a hopeful for yeah yeah i mean jojo siwa can have a boyfriend you you too can i don't know i feel like there's something that's more asking about jojo that like maybe you don't have a star yeah no she has like a big personality she seems sweet and nice and like funny and like i'm sure she's like fun and funny to be around yeah i've heard i think she did an episode of good guys and they loved having her like they loved their conversation with her yeah so that's always like a good um indicator of how someone like can like so i think she's got riz for sure and i feel like she is like young that she's in her experiment phase so you know just trying to figure herself out i think that's normal yeah so this i'm glad that they are together and like that this is like full circle regardless of how it goes like i really don't care about um either of them but like i did i'm glad to like that we're seeing this through yeah full circle yeah I think it will also yeah a lot of full circle moments here you being on the toes Taylor getting her records back Josh and Hayley getting married the Cyrus family coming together yeah that's what it's all about I don't want this to end I can do this all day long I know well what else do you have to share with us like anything like juicy that will make news headlines what'd you see at swim week like nothing I don't know just what I was showing you ever all the girlies looking hot yeah no one was like a total bitch backstage no no I I feel like I don't I get lucky that I don't really encounter people like that anymore yeah I know people don't act like that anymore really that's why it's like so shocking when someone does especially an influencer because I do think this day and age like influencers know better like that's a classic trap like you're not gonna fall you're not gonna catch someone like being rude yeah no for sure when I was younger like for more like a few years ago living in New York there was a lot of influencers who were mean yeah but then like they get called they got called out in like major ways and now i think everyone i would hope is just like smarter than that even if you're still like mean on the inside they know better than to act like that in public you know i don't know i think there's still people being bitchy out there really oh you'll have to name names yeah like on like when you go to when you're doing like the more fashion week scene and stuff like that it's different people i agree with that everyone those people everyone's taking themselves so serious yeah and it is serious i get it but and i guess it's not fun no it's not fun yeah Well, have you had fun?

1:08:04Do you want to start a podcast now? Do you like podcasts? Are you love podcasts? I would never start a podcast, I think, because I feel like it's so much more fun to do it with a co-host. Yes. And then, so then if I'm by myself. No, no, no. You need to have a, I mean, you don't need to have a co-host, but it's more fun. It's way easier. Like I would advise co-hosts or, you know, constant guests. Yeah. And I feel like there's actually a lot of room in like, especially fashion and podcasting. And I've been seeing like a lot of like just new fashion podcasts popping up and like people really enjoy them.

1:08:38But I feel like you're so visual. Like we want to see you. Yeah. I feel like I have enough on my plate for now, you know, but. Yeah. Yeah. Come back anytime though. If you want to like, just get a little pod in. I do. Have you done a podcast before? Yeah. I've done a million, but all of the, all of the podcasts I've done have been very, like business or um like focus also very like forbes which we didn't even touch on you know like you're really a woman in business like we made i don't consider myself that at all but that's how you come off like you say we come off like people who like shouldn't have a chip you come off like so legit like women in business female founders okay i appreciate that i feel like i'm more just like you need to go on megan's podcast confessions of a female founder lemonada no she's not i feel like she'd be awful come here to like let your hair down but like you are very like corporate girly no i'm not i like the way i manage my team is actually hilarious like i'm like the the lines of professionalism are so blurred it's actually out of control like my assistants are like i literally joke that i pay them to be my friends i'm like hi guys like what's happening I like answer I do all my zooms of like important business in like a robe and a towel on my head.

1:09:53I'm like sorry guys running late didn't have time to get ready. Here I am. Women in business. Yeah women in business like there's no rules. And anytime my husband tries to yell at me I'm like this is how I manage the girlies. And this is how I operate. You're doing something right. You're doing a lot of things right. Yeah I think I just really care. And like it's very honest and very much just like authentic of what I'm trying to make. I'm just trying to make the girls look cuter. No, then you really do. So everyone can check out Oriam at Oriam.collective, code Toast20. Yep. You can check out Cass's Instagram, which is incredibly pargy, at Cass D 'Amico.

1:10:27Yes. The Instagram aesthetic doesn't match the personality, as you guys hopefully saw today. I'm like, no, I'm glad that we got - Much more fun than I am on my Instagram. No, for sure. But we need pargy Instagrams too. Like, don't knock them. I love like an aesthetic, just like beautiful, aspirational Instagram. That's exactly what yours is and your brand is so beautiful and everyone should check out everything cast and you're vlogging now too so if you want more cast head over yeah if you want more just fun stuff yeah i've logged being like i'm going on the test oh my god if i could i be involved yeah or you can also send me like clips from this episode if you want to include them yeah i will yeah great okay amazing because i can be like co-hosting with the jacqueline

1:11:11like title that oh no that's not good for sio it's not good unless like it's a huge devil wears prada fan i know they're like what the fuck is who the fuck is jacqueline fullet that is not jacqueline blake we know that's really funny thank you so much for joining we have loved having you to the toasters love you so much we'll see you tomorrow for another your pargelicious fun episode of Jackson Blank. Love ya. Bye. Love ya.

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