The Foundation & The Finger: Wednesday, December 11th, 2024

30:06Maybe they're like working on a big project or something. And now they, if they weren't, they need to start one. Yeah. Like the Ponton Borough Law Offices of Cincinnati. You don't want to get the reputation that you lied to the police. Like I don't want to. That is so true. It's literally a crime. It's perjury. Yeah, that's like a bad look. Yeah. So I also am holding space for the idea that like maybe some of the police report wouldn't be incorrect. I don't know. That something's like getting lost in translation. I'm holding space. Yeah, I'm not. I think she like panicked and lied. Like she's a young girl.

30:36Panicked about what? That she's at her boyfriend's house? No, that like talking to the police is fucking scary. Like, and you're also not at home and like you're on the phone with your mom freaking out. And like you also have this new hot boyfriend who like there's drama. Like, no, I actually feel, I feel the lies. I just like want to know how she came up with that one. She didn't do anything wrong. like just don't lie to the police it's just like a bad thing it's still scary to be like in like interviewed by the police even if you did nothing wrong people like randomly lie all the time to the police because they're like nervous okay that's so svo yeah but like have you ever like spoken to the police in like an investigatory way no but i have like i just had a really crazy thought i have by the way you guys know oh right right right it because of the car chase the bank robbery the bank robbery i had a really i just had a really crazy thought she was the robber that like because now like maybe she wanted to like get the relationship more serious have people know maybe he's been like hiding her because of the high school sweetheart and like now it's out there she's uc smolade the whole thing that's how she was able to tell them what was missing she pulled to jesse that's so true i love that and now we're talking about even if like it doesn't work out like she now is has the cloud of having dated literally the guy everyone wants to date yeah worth it yeah and like you know it's a great way to get your man serious it's also a great way to get your name out there like this is the relationship yeah yeah because otherwise like she's staying at his house when he's away at a football game like that's legit oh that's not a booty call there's no booty that's a relationship yeah no i do like it how old is she 22 yeah what was i doing when i was 22 not this no certainly not well to be young i do i hope they catch the boys who did it unless it was a woman let her go she deserved it and no i don't think that she did it this girl seems like a nice girl i don't know her yeah no i i don't maybe it was the other olivia She said, I hear there's a hooker at Joe's house.

32:45Let's go get her. But they find that she's not home, so they just staged it as a burglary. Yeah. That's totally what happened, by the way. There's just, like, there's a lot here. There's a lot to unpack, yeah. And hopefully we'll just continue to, we'll see if she starts going to games. Like, it's over. She starts repping, like, Bengals jerseys. Who's a Bengals fan? Nobody. Unless you're dating Joe Burrow. Like. Are you ready for our next story? actually a lot of us are bangles fans claudia oh i'm like back to that super bowl detroit uh no they were in the super bowl a few years ago the the year that i gave birth yeah bangles verse uh lar bangles are things for slar you're right you're right you're right because i have the poster and i like know the tiger yeah oh so yeah we're really good they're really good yeah no i was like making a joke and like some of these football fans like Detroit Lions fans like I get that you have like a compelling story but like it's football like kind of save it for someone who cares yeah like seriously don't even bother leaving a comment like I don't care are you ready for our next story I know you're not you don't give a shit but like it is our journalistic duty to report this what Megan Fox has dumped machine gun Kelly after she found text messages from other women in his phone I actually I don't care you're 100 % right but I wanted to I wanted to make it a story so that I can say like not only do I not care but I haven't cared for a really long time and at one point in my life like for the sake of my job like I was pretending to care about these two honestly and I like actually like hate them okay so I'm glad you brought it up I think we knew that but um for those who do care Megan Fox who is pregnant by the way is done with Machine Gun Kelly after this would not be a story about on the toast if she wasn't pregnant.

34:37I know, and like, what? Because they're done every other day, but she's now done with him again after discovering he was talking to other women behind her back, a source exclusively tells Page Six. When they went away for the Thanksgiving holiday, she became suspicious and decided to go through his phone. She found text messages involving other women and decided she was done. I just, and I know this happens like not in Hollywood, but I feel like it happens in Hollywood a lot. Like the breaking up of families, like for no fucking reason. Like, Machine Gun Kelly, like you're a piece of shit philanderer.

35:04That's fine. What are you doing getting girls pregnant? Like, stop. No, but like, why can't you just stop texting bitches? Like, you're dating Megan Fox. By the way, some people can't. That's fine. But like, know thyself. Don't get your girlfriend pregnant and like, let her think you're about to start a family. And now the baby comes from a broken home before it's even born. Yeah. No, but I just like, don't understand why like Megan Fox is just not enough woman for you. Yeah. Well, this is like the same thing with the Barry Keoghan, Sabrina Carpenter thing. like if the only small very supple silver lining here is like if you're watching this and you've ever been cheated on like even Megan Fox gets cheated on like it's not a you thing and you can feel proud like you're actually a part of an elite group yeah no but not even that like what's just with these men like she's so obviously so beautiful but she's also like very dynamic and they obviously connect like what's fucking missing that you need to go texting random girls like I just don't understand why that's not enough for you like what's something is missing within you 1000 % and like it's actually a mental illness when these guys are like I just can't commit like I just can't monogamy and they can't literally why how busy are you don't you have a job how many people can you fucking one day it's just like it's so empty there's nothing there like texting girls are like meeting up with girls for like a hookup like there's nothing there why can't you stop that I don't understand yeah what's missing in your life what are you running from and what do you get you know you don't gain anything from something like that no not at all you lose a family you lose you have everything to lose stupid idiot stupid idiot like seriously I know this happens like with regular people too but like seeing it happen to celebrities it's like how dumb are you yeah I'm really rooting for her and she's so strong like I don't know her but she just seems like a strong person strong in herself and whatever she like if she goes this alone she'll be okay if she's with him she'll they'll figure it out but like i it's like i feel like i don't worry about her you know no she's tough she's tough but that doesn't mean like she should have to go through hard things because you're tough do you know what i mean no 100 % and her ex-man bag is still going strong right with uh sharna sharna sharna burge yeah that's nice for them because i feel like they were like the losing team for a while yeah yeah like the two loser exes by the way did you see that tj holmes and amy roback's exes are dating no they just did their red carpet debut oh wow yeah i saw that happen over the weekend and i was like did i know this i didn't know if i knew that their exes i feel like we knew this because and we talked about it because we were saying how like if a equals b and b equals c and c equals d then a by the transitive property if you liked amy roback you should like who amy roback liked right if you like someone who likes amy roback then you should like someone who likes amy roback yeah yeah they attended an event together they looked like happy it's one of my favorite things it's very shania twain when her husband when her husband left her for her best friend she ended up marrying and she's still married to her husband her ex-best friend's husband ex-husband her current yeah yeah i love that wife swap it's like you know what no harm no foul like let's just call it even yeah and like thanks for you know the matchmaking yeah yeah it's a great way to meet people is to like look at your ex-partner's new partner's ex.

38:20Yeah I think a lot of the times when there's infidelity one of the people in the infidelity like isn't married that's like what makes it hard yeah it's like they don't they're not leaving anyone behind for you. Oh I hate when that happens you know. So unfortunate but when it does work out Shania Twain and Amy Roback like I love it. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Also makes it easy on kids right? Yes. How? because then there's not all these like I guess because they're like step siblings with each other they're going into the same homes like it but they didn't know each other before I guess maybe maybe not I don't know it's actually the same exact thing for the kids it's a new new daddy and a new house okay okay except you would only have to worry about like one blended family not one on each side oh that's true it's actually like a beautiful polygamist family that's yeah yeah next time magazine while we wait for person of the year they have announced their athlete of the year and it is caitlin clark the wnba star has been announced as time magazine's 2024 athlete of the year on tuesday with a flashy photo shoot to accompany the article that has fans suggesting she branch out in her career she's showing abs she's giving quotes She's, you know, she's balling, as they say.

39:39I guess this makes sense why yesterday we were saying Simone Biles should have been on the short list for Time Person of the Year. I guess there's a separate list for athletes, and Simone would have been considered for this one. Oh, okay, that's fair. But then Kaitlyn Clark also could have been considered for person. Like, will there ever be an athlete who's a big enough athlete that they could be on the person list? Yes, 1 ,000%. And Simone Biles could have. I think Kaitlyn Clark is a little too national. Time Magazine's Person of the Year is like a global thing. like and between the olympics like as an athlete that's kind of like the only global stage i think for unless you're like world cup kind of um so i actually don't think caitlin clark would have even been on the shortlist for time person of the year i just i think it's like too american yes um however i think could have i think this is a fantastic choice and even knowing that like simone if she was on the shortlist she also would have been really good choice however she's a good choice most years and this was really caitlin clark's year like she changed sports the shoes the girls the hoops she has also like acted the entire time with such grace like a true role model for young women I think that um there's been a lot of things thrown at her people like love to come at her for different things and they love to say like the WNBA is having a moment not only because of Clayton Clark it's like okay keep telling yourself that no and also do you see those videos of her like getting like beat up on the court like the way that other players treat her There are a lot of politics within the league when it comes to Caitlin Clark.

41:07And yes, she has a couple of rivals within the league who are haters of hers and who end up fouling and things like that. A lot of people like to pit her and Angel Reese against each other, but they're actually like, Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark, because they're the same grade, kind of. They graduated from the NCAA together, even though I think they're different ages. They have a mutual respect for one. There are players that do not like Caitlin Clark and the attention that she gets. and I don't think that they like that like the league is like Caitlyn's league you know Angel Reese isn't one of them I feel like she gets a bad rap when it comes to Caitlyn Clark and I actually think that like her the two of them are like formidable opponents who really respect one another yes also in this interview she talks about Angel Reese briefly and like was super nice and that they have a good relationship yeah I think like I think the Angel Reese stuff is like a lot of media like pitting two successful women against one another because in any other time like Angel Reese was that bitch like LSU and she would have been the one we were all talking about but it's kind of like you know what's that movie secretariat and what was the other horse oh with an s we have to we have to figure it out hold on the year secretariat won the triple crown like obviously secretary it was like this out of world like this is the most insane horse you ever met but his like rival during that time sham sham sham was his rival who was all like any other time lost every race but was one of the most extraordinary horses like two things can be true Angel Reese is sham like so if it were any other year sham and Angel Reese would be like you know the princess at the ball it would have been Angel's year so I think that like naturally they pit the two and they played each other a lot in college and now they play each other a lot in the NCAA but I think it's all good I think a lot of excuse me I think a lot of it is like and I just want to say like I don't think the WNBA needs a different name like the NBA there's not the MNBA interesting so you think it should be called the NBA yeah which game did you watch oh i watched the women's game like i don't know why it needs a special name like we're like so special you know what i mean that's actually like a really radical take like oh is it in your brisier next oh yeah fine like i actually don't like that's how i also felt like when i used to shop plus size like how we had to have like a special name and a special section like just put it with the clothes like i just want to be with everyone else well that is weird just put it like because also you'll be shopping for something and it goes up to like 1x and you're like oh they don't have my size but then like over yonder on a different floor same shirt in a 2x yeah that's just like not it's a logical good logistical maneuvering yeah maybe i'm a radical feminist i think it should be called the nba like i can't tell if that's like super radically feminist or like no i actually don't think it is i'm such a simple person like like i hate when like you're this is my philosophy when it comes like being a woman or being anything like i hate to feel like a handout do you know what I mean and getting a special league name like we're doing the same thing it's the national we're playing basketball nationally like well do you think there should just be one league for men and women the best of the best I actually think that like if there was I don't by the way because I don't think like men should be shoving women on the court no but I think that I think that like because I often think about that when people talk about like Serena Williams like the greatest she is the greatest female athlete of all time And I think that she has said, I think, I forget who it was, if she played against Roger Federer or something.

44:19Like, she lost. Even though you would think, like, she's actually better, like, in her own league than she is at Roger Federer. So they're so different, you know? And that's a conversation, you know, men and women in sports. Like, I'm so not going there. So thank you for asking that question. Oh, I love you there. So all's that to say, I think it should be called the NBA. Okay. I'm older. Like, trying to get me to, like, be, like, a radical. Like, get out of here, bitch. So what are you trying to say? Get out of here. get out of here are you ready for our next story number what's the original story caitlin clark is time person of the year i think we said everything that could be set time athlete of the year i just want to say i i don't really feel like i even gave my take i love this i don't know who else it could have been like simone yes yes if it yeah i guess it travis jason oh actually those are all really good ones they could have done travis and jason together that would have been cute too that would have been cute I wonder if they released the short list but in terms of like actual like making change that's Caitlin no too but like Travis and Jason brought joy and entertainment but I don't think they like enacted change you know her NBA I mean her Nike contract being like the biggest for a female athlete like it's huge she's raising the bar for female athletes everywhere um I and I think like I just love her too like as a person I think she's a great role model every time I hear her in an interview she's always saying the right thing not because she thinks that it's the right thing to say but because I think that's like how she was raised no and I also feel like I obviously don't watch the WNBA or even the NBA so again like you can't yell at me um like none of this is really for me and yet I can even sit here and say like it was her year she was everywhere she dominated I don't have to participate in it to feel the effect of Caitlin exactly that's how you know somebody really transcended their yeah that's like when they're like well you didn't see the movie well if the movie was that great it would have made its way to my television.

46:07A thousand percent. Like Wicked. Yeah, Wicked is the perfect example. Wicked is the perfect example. Got me to the movie theater for the first time, I think, in five years. It got me to the movie theater for the first time in one year since the Eras tour hit theaters. Right. So I'll say that. Are you ready for our next story? What number? Number four. No, is it our next story that's brought to you by GoodRanchers.com perchance? Yes, it is. I'm like so loving Good Ranchers. I feel so passionate about it. And I hadn't heard of Good Ranchers until they started sponsoring the toast. And now I'm like, I'm like telling everyone about it.

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50:55That's L-I-Q-U-I-D-I-V.com. Our code is TOAST, T-O-A-S-T, for 20 % off your first order. Thank you, Tarter. You're welcome. Our next story. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie have been offered a jaw-dropping amount to appear on screen together again so Danny Rossner who is a director he has raised about six million dollars from his backers which he hopes would be enough to entice enemies Brad and Angelina to bury the hatchet and do a movie together so he's sharing the details this is his this is his big dream however it must be never fucking happening by the way they have been warring over custody over their kids money in the future of their wine business for eight years this is like really weird of what's his name Danny Rossner it's giving some of the biggest loseriest energy i've ever seen in my life like why would you want either of them to go through that like first of all they have unlimited money six million dollars why don't you take your pennies elsewhere sir d is what he's raised so here's what he said he also has the movie ready he describes the film he wants brad and angelina to star in as his passion project of over 20 years it's a love story set at the hotel martinez in can france during world war ii based on the real life owner pitt would play emmanuel martinez the hotel owner and angelina would play his alluring mistress and muse Emma Degard.

52:10The script means they perform intimately together. As Rossner admits, there's a love scene. It's a torrid one too. He's a freak. He's not worked out and even split for the exes because actually his fee is a little bit more than hers. She would not, I wouldn't start with that, Dani. No, no. That is not the way to do it. However. Although, you know, these are two people who don't necessarily need money, but divorces are notoriously expensive. You know, they're fighting over their chateau in France. Like, I actually think they both could really use$30 million. No, and also it's like they have children together.

52:39So they have like, they could come together, make a quick 40 mil, give it to the kids. And they always tell us it's just acting. It doesn't matter that I'm kissing someone. That's not my partner. They do always tell us that. It's just, we don't even feel anything. So. The thing is, is I think they both look at it like they, we're so beyond. It's not just a divorce. Like she has accused him of abuse. He has accused, like they fucking, it's beyond. There's no way this is happening. Although it does beg the question, like how much money would it take? Now, if this were regular people, you know, with regular problems and regular bills, like obviously, sure, I'd do it for 10 grand.

53:19But people who seemingly have - Donated to Mark Schoenwetter. Right. People who seemingly have everything. Right, they could also take the money, do it and donate it to charity. Yeah, you know she loves UNICEF. Like how much would it take? And because this is 20 mil before, Or, you know, you get a deal. You get a back-end deal. You get, like, three pennies every time the movie sells a ticket. Like, so it's not just 20. It's 20 and then some. Some back-end royalties. Yeah, so his fee is about$20 to$25 million. Hers is in the$15 million range. And then if you went, even, he said, we're prepared to go 50 % above that.

53:52So he would make as much as$37 million. She,$22 million. So that's over$50 million for charity, for your kids. If they didn't have kids, I would say, but what is this? like three months out of your life bury the hatchet do the thing that you guys always used to do that you know maybe they'll fall in love for a couple 50 mil but then it also begs the question to what end is he doing this do the American people really want to see these two together like are we all gonna go to the theaters and make this movie worth it I'm not dying to see these two back together like in a romantic or even a movie sense however if they did a film together with you know intimate scenes like my curious ass would be getting a ticket like you think that like people would come out in droves for this to justify the big salaries I do the movie would have to make like probably a hundred million dollars to justify the budget I think they both have that sort of box office power together for sure and then all the context around what's going on between them in real life for sure now tell me about the book are either one it's uh are they jewish it's a true story um it's not a book but it's a person so emmanuel martinez is in his muse emma dugard it didn't mention judaism but wait they um it's an american couple who rent a hotel room in coastal france to save their marriage no i'm sorry that's her other movie by the sea okay i'm like so that was like you're saving your marriage in the middle of a war i don't know if that's gonna help read the room yeah like girl you'll be fine um i let me i'll do a quick google a on these people but honestly i just want to say i didn't like i was thinking like it would probably be something more closer to like mr and mrs smith like a modern day like right sexy movie but this actually sounds good well mr and mrs smith would be great because for the first half of the movie they hate each other so they wouldn't even have to act right it would be the second half where they like fall back in love that makes it that's such a good movie also knowing like at the time how important of a role that played they were both well he was married yeah they were not together at the time but that's where they fell in love like you can actually it's such a good movie you can see them falling in love like on screen because neither one of them are that good of an actor right so it's not crazy that he makes 25 million dollars a movie I don't know if I knew that that's on yeah on the high end but he probably takes less for like other movies that are maybe like artistic or he gets he's a director or producer or whatever this is just like a fee to say my lines and take your pants show up yeah right right unzip however ultimately one this guy his movie credits like aren't that amazing so i i just don't think he's like he sounds actually like a freak nutty it's not stephen spielberg calling so i think they're not even picking up the call and also then at the bottom of the article it's like talking about everything that's gone on the last few years think about how much the kids hate him like this is not the plane they changed their last name the plane yeah the emergency landing like this is never happening however like 50 million dollars for your future and or charity of your choice it's something to think about this guy just like seems to have a hard on like like this fantasy about these two and it's like weird I never even thought that I wanted or needed to see these two back on screen together yeah and I also think the worst part of this is it could like drop and like we're like nobody is dropping flop I don't know how much people love them separately and together like do people care I don't think so I think when it comes to box office like start Brad Pitt still draws people in like every movie he does is success I actually I didn't know that Angelina just did a new movie I thought she was retired from acting so I think that says she played Maria Callis I think that says all that says about like her box office power yeah yeah so TBD and also like if I want to see this movie because like I like a historical fiction not a historical film World War II romance um it would be distracting I'd just be thinking about how much these people hate each other no of course no you truly cannot suspend disbelief it was kind of like the kissing booth too honestly yeah it would be better if it was like an enemies to lovers that's what I was thinking like Mr.

58:00and Mrs. Smith yeah okay think about it think about it are you ready for our fifth and final story yeah a little production news because if we don't let you know who else has been added to the lineup of Dick Clark's rockin new year's eve no one's got no one will i thought it was gonna be the harry potter hbo max series that's another one and then also the cast of annie live and um the thanksgiving day parade and any live production production we're gonna any award show we're gonna let you know who's hosting and performing um but these are the names that have been added to dick clark's new year's rockin eve alanis morissette renee rap blake shelton and tn tlc so oh better like before Or it sounded like a big loser fest with one big headliner, Carrie Underwood.

58:42The four of these are recognizable names from all different genres and generations. So it's better. It sounds more promising. I'm glad to see you're excited. They'll also like Alanis and Renee will be on the West Coast. Blake Shelton will be live from Las Vegas. And TLC will be in Times Square. Like for me, it's about what's going on in Times Square. The other is the remote satellite. You could have filmed that five years ago. They do. Right. So that just doesn't give the right energy. I am so glad you brought up Renee Rapp. because I don't know if you know, like a lot of people have been talking about Renee Rapp because the new season of Sex Lives of College Girls came out and like they're actively, I think only maybe, I only saw the first episode so far, but I think there's two or three.

59:17They're actively writing her out of the script. She's like thinking about transferring. You see how she ends up leaving. I don't know what ends up happening, but it reminded me that like she decided to leave. I have to put on my content plate and I started my note. Oh, I was just looking for a pen and paper. Sex Lives. S-L-O-C-J. I got it. so it started this conversation because when she decided to leave the show like obviously everyone was devastated but she was having this moment this pop girl star moment and it does feel like that moment kind of came and went and she definitely was eclipsed by like a lot of the pop girlies who took over this year like chap and sabrine and i think a lot of people are now giving it's kind of like the rege jean paul now she's obviously not like rege jean level but she didn't really take off in the way that we thought she was going to and in a way that made sense for her to leave that show like she had a clip just talking about how like this is a big moment for like pop is like is happening right now there are pop stars olivia sabrina chap gracie no no but of the of the new girls the newbies like there's really an environment it's right for them right now tate tate and like she's not there i don't think i know and i think when she left the show it was like clear that she was going to be there so she was happy to leave the show behind now there's two ways that it can go right when you leave a show the regé jaune and the olivia rodrigo like olivia already go never should have been on that show you know she did the second season as actually a charity and after that high school musical the musical the series like it was silly she never should have been there so it can go one of two ways and i feel like the renee way is like going regé but let me just say olivia rodrigo is not even best character on that show olivia rodrigo uh pauline chalamet my girl just because she's dana you mean dana holsberg yeah olivia rodrigo is not a fair comparison because high school musical the musical the series like no one was really watching or living for and when she left it like no nobody cared because it wasn't like but like bridgerton was the biggest show sex life in college was so big so to leave that to think you're gonna do something bigger it's like it's a tall task to leave high school musical we're like great yeah so so is there an example you think of somebody leaving like a big timey show and it paying off definitely I would have to think okay um I can't I can't think right now sound off in the comments because I would love to know like if it has ever worked out for anybody for sure it has and I thought I thought with Renee Rapp like well I was sad for myself because I love her and I love that show I was like you know what it probably won't affect her career she was so clearly like on this trajectory yeah and I don't know if it what what affected it the most but I think it was just the rise of other pop girlies that sidetracked her a little bit and it didn't turn out the way I thought it was going to and I'm sure the way she thought as someone who's like on the other side of like the pond like she'd never crossed over into mainstream like to where I reside like chapel like has yeah we're eating all of them like they are both internet and gen z i think tate is like still on the journey there yeah but renee never left the internet island no i don't i don't come across like i don't know her songs they don't get like they just never made it to like you know grannyville which is where that's where scale is that's how you know you made it when you've hit grannyville supermarket publics radio like can't go somewhere without hearing your bop so not to say like i think she's really talented when i do see her perform i'm like wow this is amazing but like i don't know why and there's so many artists that like I love that haven't made it to grannyville and that hurts for me like I feel like like Mimi Webb like I'm waiting for I'm bringing her I'm showing her to my granny friends but I'm only one woman I think while she hasn't hit grannyville she's hit Granville in the UK she's also not American so you have to remember that when you're thinking of it from your own American POV yeah yeah like I feel like Little Mix never really hit grannyville well they were cut off at the legs before they could start because they decided to break up for some unbeknownst reason yeah so and do you think there's anyone who didn't leave the show like you know probably had this and should have either should have or like was able to do both while not leaving the show but also grow yes I think it's possible like I don't think you'll ever really regret staying on something big even if you can do other things too like I think you just work hard um and I think that it's possible to to slay at both yeah I think that's the move yeah so dick clark's rocking new year's eve we're probably going to be together watching i feel like it's going to be like a we've actually had to take a major nap in the middle of the day i don't know if i can wait up till midnight i was actually thinking like when can i call it and like stop waiting up till midnight even on my birthday this year it was the election so i was watching the election but like at a certain point i'd like to go to sleep i agree um let's dive into the real housewives of beverly hills recap last night was a really boring episode i thought the four was more boring that we didn't recap i didn't okay because i thought like they were at least like being like like cute and funny and pretty and like playing those games which i actually thought was funny um this one they just like went from meal to boat to meal like there was nothing like and i'm sorry because i feel like i'm so ride or die for and like i always choose to see the best but weenie of the week was garcelle submitting herself in the kyle and to read conversation She'd be like, I agree.

1:04:39Okay, nobody asked. And I love how Dorit required like 30 follow-up questions. You agree with what? And then like Garcelle couldn't really explain herself. She was like, oh, okay, thanks. Like it was so not the time. I'm like, duh, you do. You don't like me and you thought my robbery was staged. Yeah, no. And like objection, relevance, we're literally not talking to you. Like she's so obsessed with Dorit. She's like a little bit dog with a bone. And I think maybe when she's obsessed with somebody that I just like, I ride for Garcelle, but like it's punching down at this point with Dorit. Like everyone's coming for her.

1:05:09She's going through a lot. And like, you're just randomly like, we want to get to know Bo's. Like, okay, shut up. She piles on and she has like no, the other women, even when they fight, like they have tender moments too. Like even when she finally reconciles with Kyle, it's like there's love there. But between Garcelle and Dorit, there is none of that. It's just actually like a hatred that mostly Garcelle has for Dorit. And so in turn, Dorit's like, okay, I don't like you either. because you treat me so terribly and so it's just like it's it's not a productive call out whereas ever the other women it's like okay I'm gonna tell you what you did that hurt me so that we can move forward but for Garcelle it's just to like make Dorit look bad and I also feel like she had said early on in this season like Dorit making everything look so perfect like you'd never know the last three years Dorit has been telling us like she's not okay like even that last season where she had that pretty woman day with PK was like really terrible I saw that she was so stressed out even the way that she looks she doesn't look like herself like they're literally fighting over dinner she's literally telling she sat down with kyle and said my relationship is on the rocks and i feel like at the time everyone's like oh dorit's making it about her and then cut to a year later they're separated and it's like she pretended everything was perfect it was like no she was literally telling us she's not okay no and kyle's like demanding grace from everyone for what she's going through meanwhile like you see and while i i have sympathy because i think that like she doesn't want the marriage to end like her and mo are like really copacetic and like they're getting along really well dorita pk aren't even talking now like and and their kids are not grown Kyle's kids are grown.

1:06:33Dorit has these little kids. It's like so, it's like clearly bad. And everybody's like, Kyle, Kyle, Kyle. Dorit's going through the same thing and it appears to be like much harder. Oh, 100%. I think the fact that the kids are grown like makes the biggest difference. Like when Kyle was sitting alone in her house, it's like, yes, that would be a lonely, quiet life. But at least it's not like your kids fucking crying. No, it's not like hard in the trenches. Like, and also Kyle has multiple businesses. She's a very wealthy woman. like Dorit has the show and she does well for herself but like she's a housewife probably if PK wouldn't let her stay in the house she would have to move like her whole life will change it's so destabilizing and like the I don't even and Kyle's now a year out Dorit is a week out like I think where Kyle was a week out is different than where she is where Dorit will be in a year is even different so like I feel like right now Dorit needs grace and tenderness and I don't know why she decided to like kind of slay all the dragons all at once like woke up today and then I was calling out Kyle for years of mean behavior and PK and but she's taking on a lot she just like when she was walking onto the boat I was like I think she's gonna fall asleep like she looks just tired can we talk about something how the literally the entire episode the thread was like what actually did Dorit say about Teddy and Dorit was telling the truth the entire time she did say we're not close but I consider her a friend but not like a close friend that's exactly what she said and then she repeated it twice and erica was like i don't think that's what you said and that was pissing me off because erica's been a really good friend she's not malicious she obviously is misremembering right and it's just annoying because she was wrong like if she had been right and she's if dorit hadn't said that and then dorit erica like remembered correctly it would have been like okay well we are you know we need to start we need accuracy here whatever but the fact that they were all wrong i mean dorit looks so good they kept replaying it how she said that and i also the editors are not on team kyle do you feel that way too they keep like like cutting to old scenes from old uh seasons making her look bad yeah just giving us examples of the things that Dorit is talking about that without examples I'd be like oh Dorit you're overreacting but it's true in the confessionals and I'm watch what happens live the women are snarky even in this trip Kyle's like the boat's gonna run away it's Gilligan's Island don't keep me with these people and it's like you're literally saying you hate your friends and you don't want to be with them like everyone is talking nastily and snarkily about each other the whole time but when Dorit does it it's I'm not speaking to you for six months even though you're my best friend in the group and I actually appreciated Sutton who clearly has like an issue with Dorit and like likes Kyle more I appreciate her being honest I mean listen like Kyle you do do that like you have this like thing where you just ice people out you're like over them and then six months later you're like ready to talk to them again and you do need to work on that and I appreciate that she said that to her privately and publicly in front of Dorit because that was a kind of a bad look for Kyle yeah Kyle's just like not doing it for me no and she's like really coming off poorly yeah yeah I just feel like Dorit is like needs support she doesn't and I don't know I just and I also recognize that Kyle's going through stuff but just compared to Dorit like Dorit just feels insurmountable at the moment the argument in the bus was weird and Sutton was pissing me off like why are you trying to cause a thing between Erica and Dorit like Erica is literally the only person Dorit has like can you fuck off well Sutton and Garcelle like really always wind up back here where it's like you guys have different roles for each other than you do for the rest of the group and like if you're going to talk poorly about each other like do it like you would with all of us I just wish that Dorit like did more listening in that moment to realize she wasn't in trouble no one was coming for her they were actually talking about Erica and also like even Garcelle saying you said you're not close with Teddy but you reposted by the way and I wish Dorit had answered like a little better to be like that was a cool moment and I'm reposting a friend yeah of course by the way I repost a million things all day long no and her like saying I wanted to support the concert like Kyle was right like John Mellencamp doesn't enjoy reposting oh by the way that comment though that Kyle made is the exact type of snarky comment that she would get mad about he's a hall of fame rock and roll star he doesn't need to read Kemsley's Instagram but I felt like if she had just been honest which was clearly like okay yeah and she has maintained this entire time I'm friends with Teddy she I'm not close with her I'm friends with her friends enough to go to a concert she just said like no that was sick I got pulled on stage by John Mellencamp why the fuck wouldn't I reshare that like it so was not a thing I didn't think it made her look hypocritical at all to say I'm not really that close with Teddy and then two days later post a video with Teddy I didn't think it was weird at all the only weird thing that made it weird was like her explanation not being like 100 % honest yeah promoting the concert like where as opposed to just being like oh that's she's so funny like that though like she is I had to promote John Mellencamp's cause like I'm sorry she's funny she is and I wish we could have seen like was there a link or any was she actually like promoting like hey get tickets i thought maybe he was posting a charity event if she was that was the only way that would have made it like i wanted to help promote is if they were raising money philanthropically i need to see the whole side if there was like a call to action then she's telling the truth as opposed to just being oh there was a cool moment and i wanted to share it like we repost stuff all day long yeah why that would be like weird if she intentionally didn't repost it because we're not close enough to repost yeah yeah so everyone needs to back off I'm like so writing for Dorit and I love I love Erica and I love that she's like being there for Dorit I need her to come off the fence like a little bit more over to do Dorit but I understand she's just being but I actually feel like for someone who's playing the middle between Dorit and Kyle she's definitely leaning more to read yes and I think that just might be because one Erica's like very logical and right now like logic is on Dorit's side but also I think she has a lot of sympathy for Dorit because they're in similar situations like they were how like when she left everything that Erica has now bags clothes house she pays for herself like she's completely self-sufficient she left that life behind and Dorit would be the same yeah so I think they look at Kyle being like listen you're a little bit in ivory tower over here no prenup you built the business together you've been married since 1994 you're gonna be completely fine yeah also i saw tiktok um speaking of jennifer tilly she makes 10 million dollars a year okay from the simpsons very nice and she has since she's been divorced i don't that would like in the 70s that would be like 100 million dollars yeah wow okay yeah yeah just fun fact thank you for that fact she has yet to prove it herself yep it's just a tiktok it was looked ai generated so just take everything i say with a grain of salt but i thought that was it sounded right didn't sound like obscenely high but for the biggest show would have a little chunk 10 million yeah yeah and it's one of those shows that's like before streaming like it's og syndicated like no it's like the biggest show probably like the most of all time show of all time yeah yeah besides like maybe seinfeld but seinfeld was a handful of seasons no it's still on it's still on old and new episodes so crazy so crazy um i feel like that's a good time to wrap up because I have to poop.

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