The Free Toast with Suzy Weiss: Friday, May 30th, 2025

22:57And I'm like, okay. And they're like, and that'll be$6 ,000. Thanks, Bruno. Thanks, Bruno. But Bruno's doing great, actually, and his teeth are beautiful. But yeah, pet insurance, because you just never know what's going to happen. Our first story, some sports news. Knicks game six last night. They won. And they won. And you can feel it in the air. It's just electric. The thing is, I couldn't feel it in the air. Usually I know if they won or didn't win based on, like, when I wake up in the morning, if, like, Ben's offer is, like, posted, like, stories. If he's gone quiet, they've lost. Yeah. And so I never have to like seek out if they've won or not.

23:31It just finds me. But this morning I like had to go to New York Post Sports. Like did they win? And I felt like, and they did. But I feel like no one was making a big deal out of it even though it was like a do or die game. Well, yeah, because they lost the last two. So I think they were like pull this one out. But if they lost this one, they're out. But they didn't lose it. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're back in the game. I just thought people would be like louder. So it should be way more excited. I just saw Ben Stiller tweeting about it because he's like a diehard Knicks fan. Yeah, it was amazing.

23:59I love Celebrity Row. I love the outfits. So the story for us is that Kylie and Timothy went to the game and passionately made out on the sidelines. I saw that. From all angles. Like, I seriously love these two. What are your thoughts on them? Together forever. But I will add that I always think every couple is together forever. Like, I'm shocked whenever anyone. I do the same way. I'm like, it's done. Like, put a fork in it. It's so good. I think they're an amazing couple. I think he's likely the dad that stepped up. and I'm so happy for her. I think she looks gorgeous. I agree. She's just a joy to watch.

24:33Like even she just posted like a makeup video yesterday of her doing her makeup. Like it's nothing revolutionary. I could watch it on repeat. She's just like, she's so confident. She's so beautiful, happy, like moisturized in her lane. She's just like, I'm obsessed with her and I was happy to see them again because they'd taken a little break from games, but also they were playing in, I guess, Indiana. And this would have been bad if they lost, but I'm starting to feel like Kylie's a good luck charm for the Knicks. Just saying. Do you predict that there's going to be a royal wedding? No. Between them?

25:02No. You don't think they're ever going to get married? No. I think like California, it's like just not worth it. And I think sooner they will have a baby. I'm waiting for, I'm on like baby alert. Because she wants a lot of kids. And this is her guy. Like I think that they're going to, but I think she's just having so much fun. And she's just like so snatched. And it's like, it's hard to let that go. Oh my God. That body don't quit. it. I feel for her that at some point she's going to have to like, you know, say goodbye to that for temporarily. So I feel like she's just putting it off. But I do think that's imminent.

25:35I love these women who it's like they're much wealthier than the men they're with. Haley Road Bieber now. Yeah. It's like, don't count them out. Yeah. Like who can forget when like the Kardashians started going to the Met Gala and it was like, oh, my God, like there goes the neighborhood a little bit. But now it's like, oh, anyone who's accompanying them is lucky. Yeah. for it. Yeah. And Timothy's such a such a dreamboat. So charming. I didn't never thought so before, but now I'm totally on the Timothy bandwagon. Like I get it. Everyone loves him. And also he is like this great artist, but he also has swagger.

26:08Like he's very cool. I think he's probably a great guy all around. I saw a New York Post article about how people are trying to get men are trying to get Timothy's body and he's like spawning a different manorexia. Oh, I don't like that. Because he's so like kind of thin and gangly. I don't like that. I don't like that. But it's like, let them have a taste for a second. Oh, yeah. I was like trying to stay skinny. That's so true. But just in terms of like what I would want people to look like. Like no thing. Like all the skinny guys. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah. This like Pete Davidson look. Yeah.

26:38Not not for me. No. But I do like your perspective on it. Like let them try. Yeah. Yeah. Let them try for a second. Let them have to exercise willpower and be miserable. Go off. My perspective on, do they have like a compound name? Not one that everyone's using, but you could do Kimothay, yeah. Sounds like Kim though. Or Tylee. I love Tylee. But no one's calling them anything. I feel like everybody just is sort of rooting against them, except for you and I. You know what I mean? Like, why don't they have a couple name? Yeah, because I ship them. Also, they're like, they're only people not falling apart.

27:13Yeah. Like, they're presenting a united front. They're in love. No, and like, they're so hot and heavy and they've been this way for two years. like they're still making out courtside, even though they probably not shouldn't. But like, that's just not what you do when you're a public figure, like to be so like, but they just can't keep their hands off each other. Oh, my God. They're obsessed with each other. Yeah. So it's like, imagine what they do in private. Jackie. Cut my pearls. Yes. Yeah. What they do in private. I don't know. I mean, I've thought about it, obviously. No, just like, that's just how I think of it.

27:46Like, they literally can't stop kissing, even though like most people like act cool. in that situation. I think they try their best. I always wonder like how much time they're spending together because it's like they both seem so busy. Yeah, well, I think they've really ingrained themselves into each other's lives. Like I do believe she has a place here in New York and like he works out of here a lot. Yeah. And then he just bought a place in Beverly Hills. His mom told us that. Wow. So I really, I think it's like if you want to, you will. Yeah, if you wanted to, he will. That is really the lesson of that relationship.

28:15People like to like blame things on scheduling issues but like I'm sorry, if you want to be around this person, you will be around them. No question. And I also think it's a great example of like a different sort of family structure where it's like you had children with someone, it didn't work out. That doesn't mean your life's over. Yeah. Like you can have another like run at it and still have like a sort of like youthful, like sparkly love, which I really like for them. Me too. Me too. And I'm happy for the Knicks. I'm happy for Ben Soffer and the Brunson boys. So happy for the, I love also her courtside style.

28:49Oh, yeah. It's very, like, kitten. It's very cool. Yes. Very, very cool with the hat. And it's just like... He could maybe use a little work. I think he's maybe gone a little overboard. Yeah, but he's enjoying this new persona. Like, no one's ever thought he's this cool before. Everyone, like, respects him and, like, knows he's a great actor. But, like, this has given him so much street cred. Like, being the face of the Knicks. Like, I don't know, it just happened overnight. Yeah. But I think he's really enjoying being, like, the Knicks mascot. no question. He's the Knicks mascot and I wish him all the best.

29:21Yeah, and he deserves it. He's put in a lot of work of just being like the nerdy. Who's he playing next? Do we know? He's doing that Gwyneth Paltrow movie that they were making out in. Oh yeah, the Softie movie. She gave really funny quotes about that. Yeah. I might see that now that I want to support Timothy and I love Gwyneth. We love Gwyneth. In this house, we believe science and we stand Gwyneth Paltrow. We believe in science. Whatever. whatever it says. I don't know what it says. That's so funny. Some more big New York news is that Taylor Swift is breaking cover going out for dinner in New York City last night.

29:58She went to her go-to Italian restaurant, Via Corrado, which isn't like major news, but it is major that she's like stepping out again. So she's been low-key with Travis. Yes. For the last few months since the Super Bowl, he's working on his fitness. He's living down in Florida. Does he have long hair now? There's like a crazy haircut. There's flow. There's flow going on. There's flow. Sure. and they have been seen like having dinner in Palm Beach and stuff but all very low-key and now she like stepped out did the thing New York City all dressed up I love how proudly basic she is yeah it's like I'm going to Via Corotta I'm getting the Cacio e Pepe I'm having a Negroni I'm wearing my sweater and I'm leaving you know what I mean like there's something so amazing like she doesn't seek out the like deep cut cool thing yeah and she's like a queen for that I think Yeah, that she's not going to like it is nice that she goes to like the restaurants that are popular at the moment.

30:49Like that everyone wants to go to. They were popular five years ago. Oh, yeah. No, but like what was the other one last fall? It was like corner store. I don't I'm not big in the restaurant scene. Are you? No, I'm not big in the restaurant scene. I think food culture has gone a little broken and like broken our brains a little bit. And I think people sort of like treat restaurants like you got to try that. Must have everything's must have. It's like their hair's on fire about a taco. And it's like, everyone needs to take a deep breath on this one. You also just wrote something about like Anthony Bourdain, your release.

31:20I'm getting like ravaged online. Backlashes or whatever. Yes, we both. I mean, I was canceled first when I was 17. Now I'm being canceled again. Like I'm old hat at this. I love the cancellation. Oh my God. Canceled queen. But I'm like, they've gotten much more sophisticated, the trolls. Okay. So I'm getting messages like, I know a doctor who could fix that. And I'm like, fix what? Like, it's so mean. it's like it's like why are teeth like that and it's like oh no and it's so funny because up until today I didn't even know what you looked like and I'm a fan so where are they finding all like you're not like a uh like I think your Instagram is private my Instagram's private but it's like it's my name people can find it yeah and then we did this like I wrote about Anthony Bourdain and how I think so what was the thesis just share with the class the thesis about the Anthony Bourdain take was that like perhaps you can like have a pizza without having an existential crisis and And like, even though Anthony Bourdain was really good at what he did, he did not invent being lonely and getting drunk at the same time.

32:15And like, you know, a meal isn't like necessarily authentic just because you left to like go in a tunnel and army crawl to get there. And I really hit a nerve. I really hit a nerve with this one. I sort of thought I assumed I would because he's a saint. He is a saint. But I feel like what you wrote wasn't really a referendum on Anthony Bourdain himself. Just the way that people talk about him and like, yeah, severe him. It was about like the the fan boys and girls, even though it's mostly boys. Not what he did because he did cool stuff. Yeah, he did his thing. He went the whole way. He got tattooed on air.

32:48Yeah. You know, he had drinks with the president. I was like the whole thing when he went to Vietnam. And it was just like, you know what? Enough. It's like it's like get new heroes. I don't know. I mean, I mean, more so like you're criticizing the people like the way that people engage with him poshlessly and how they engage with food. I think the bear is to blame for this, too. It's like you can make a sandwich without having a personality disorder. You don't have to like, like, like freak out. Like just have a burger. Enjoy yourself. I love how Ben Soffer eats. Yeah. I think it just it's he's having fun.

33:20He's cooking food for Claudia. This all came because Stanley Tucci has that new show. OK. Yeah. He's the new Anthony Bourdain, they say. Yes. But I think he's sort of like a healthier version. Maybe a mentally healthier version. Mentally healthier. It's horrible. I know I'm going to get like wrecked again. And it's like, geez. I don't have any like stake in this. Like I'm not, I don't, I'm not super familiar with Anthony. I don't care about, with Tony. I don't care so much like about food and food culture. Like I, I like to cook and I'm learning and I do like, I'm not a part of this conversation.

33:53So like, I feel like a totally unbiased sounding board. And what you're saying to me sounds like totally innocuous. Yeah, no shade to him. But I think the legacy combined with the bear, combined with a few other things of sort of like, it's like, are you a rock star or do you work in the back of a kitchen? Like, I don't know. Like, that's just, I'm just noticing things. I'm just noticing. Yeah. But how long do we get on this subject? We were talking about restaurants. So restaurants in Via Corota. What are your favorite restaurants in the city where they do things in a mentally healthy way? Well, it's funny.

34:25I feel like every time you go to a restaurant, you're like, I'll look at the menu. And like the more I look at it, the less I understand it. It's like frond, like moral guanciale. And I'm like, what is it? Is it pasta? Like, it's like you're just giving me words. Sometimes it's adjectives. Sometimes it's like juicy. Like frond. Yeah, like leaf. And I'm like, I went to this restaurant in, I think it was Bed-Stuy called Daphne's last night. Oh, it was really great. Cute name. Yes. And they did like a tiramisu, but instead of ladyfingers, there was croissant, which I loved because who likes a ladyfinger?

35:00It tastes stale. Yeah, totally. Ew. But Via Corotta is great, too. Yeah. I don't know if I've ever been to Via Corotta. I'm an uptown girl when I was here. You know, I'm a Serafina girl. Oh, love. I'm tried and true. That's really. What do you get there? A little pen made pomodoro, pennella vodka and margarita pizza and a port-a-chrope salad. Like, we keep it simple. They do. Oh, I'm thinking of Sarah Beth's. They do the soft-scrappled egg that people love. They do brunch. That's great for brunch. Yes. Yeah. And that's a classic. That's like something that I would like as well. You're an order in or you're a make yourself?

35:33Well, like being in the city last few weeks, I'm literally ordering breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Like, obviously, I'm not cooking here. But at home, like when I'm in my own environment, I prefer, like I do prefer not ordering in. I would rather go to a restaurant. I just feel like the way delivery comes, it's just not appetizing. well now that we're on the subject of restaurants i have to say like the restaurant's the perfect thing like you come in they seat you they bring you the menus you order like it cannot be improved upon and now i feel like you go to restaurants and it's like have you been with us before and it's like no and it's like let me tell you how this works it's a new concept where it's like 14 things off the first page and like 30 things off the second page and then here's a buzzer and you have to get it yourself you actually have to cook it yourself and I'm a little bit like, this was a perfect thing.

36:20We don't need no proof on it. I would blame one, COVID, you know, because all the people did forget. Yes. To our menus. To our menus. Rather not eat. And also, like, no more room service. Like, oh, here, your food comes not on a tray on the silver plate. It's just like one of life's great pleasures. Yeah, it now comes, like, in a brown bag and it's actually from down the street. So, like, they just did blame Fauci. And then also, I do think people just want to keep reinventing the wheel. And I also think that they kind of have to. I saw, I don't know, a statistic. I don't know if it was right or wrong that it was like pretty much 80 % of like food restaurant business comes from delivery now.

36:53So I feel like they want to get people back in the restaurant or do they? Maybe delivery is actually cheaper overhead. And then you get like ghost kitchens. Yes. Shout out to the ghost kitchen. Yeah. Stealth mode. I love a ghost kitchen. I used to have a favorite one, but I think it closed. A favorite ghost kitchen? Like one. It just felt like home. Like a place that I always ordered from. And it's like I like that their focus is delivery. when I'm getting delivery, I want it to be optimized for delivery. Like you ever order delivery from Nobu? Yucky. Yucky. I wouldn't have McDonald's because it's optimized for delivery.

37:23No question. I mean, pasta, you really can't get delivered. I don't think. I think it's steamy and sweaty. Yeah, exactly. So I just think that's something you need to solve for. Yeah, there is an element of like you'll go into a restaurant and they'll be really busy, but no one will be in there. And it's because they're doing delivery orders. And you feel bad for the people working back there because they're serving quadruple the amount of people that they have capacity for. And yeah, I think you're right. COVID kind of, it gave an excuse for people to kind of like deteriorate the product. But also, yeah, people wanted to reinvent the wheel.

37:52People wanted to have touchless, contactless. I go to a restaurant for contact. Yeah. To be touched. Right. She's just looking for contact. Yeah. I'm just skin hungry over here. She's in the new word. Maybe it was projection. No, Oh, I'm just so lonely. I'm cracking up. It'll be okay. We stand with Susie. Yes, we stay on a canceled queen. Our next story is some interesting news. Excited to get your take because Sydney Sweeney is teaming up with Dr. Squatch to release a bar of soap made from her bath water. So Sydney Sweeney is taking men's bath products to the next level. on Thursday, a natural body care line called Dr.

38:34Squatch, that's what that is, revealed that it teamed up with Ms. Sweeney to create a soap made from her bathwater. A joint post said, you kept asking about my bathwater after the Dr. Squatch ad, so we kept it. Introducing Sydney's Bathwater Bliss, a very real, very limited edition soap made with my actual bathwater, available on June 6th at drsquatch.com. One thing about Sydney Sweeney, the girl is getting her bag. yeah she i mean is she what's the uh skincare brand she reps i forget oh i i said on her instagram she's always posting i don't know what it is there it's um laneige yes with the lip the lip mask and i mean i love her you do yes i think she's like all american i think she's really fun i think she stays in her lane and just sort of like let's let's millions of flowers bloom yeah in there she's not trying to also be a singer she's not like that's true and she's not like you know shaving her head just because she doesn't like everyone like looking at her like she's like here you got this is what you like here's more here's my bath water yeah exactly she's in on the joke though yeah about her it's not like hey take me seriously my eyes are up here like she's having fun with it and i think like i kind of want to try the soap i guess it is for men i I just wonder how much a brand like this has to pay her to like be so goofy like this.

39:59Like, you know, because it's so unserious and like it is appealing to like people's like base instincts. So like I just wonder how they got her to go along with this. And it feels like money would do that. Yeah, but like I don't. Does Dr. Squatch have that coin? Who's Dr. Squatch? I don't know. It's like Dr. Bronner's like step cousin. I've never heard of Dr. Squatch. So it's also unless like she's Dr. Squatch because the doctor could be a woman. She got her PhD. Yeah, we forget it because a doctor could be a woman. Dr. Squatch is my PCP. Because you said he is a cousin. Thank you for calling me in.

40:32Thank you for calling me in. Internalized. Well, if a female PhD is creating a bar of soap with Cindy Sweeney's bathwater, I'll eat it. But she could also just be like a regular doctor. Not PhD. PhD is like the doctorate. Like an MD? Is PhD MD? No, those are different. Right. PhD is like teacher. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like Dr. Joe Biden. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like teacher. What do you think of this, Batso? Are you going to use it? No. And I feel like once it's said like it's for men, I feel good about the fact that I don't even have to think about should I be using this? Well, it's like an Axe reinvention.

41:17Remember when Axe had like that really macho marketing? Yeah. Well, do you think they actually, like, they said they saved her bathwater and it's a drop of bathwater in each. Like, do you think that that's even true? Like, or it's just marketing? I mean, I don't know what they can get away with in terms of, like, puffery claims around this. I would love. Right. And in terms of hygiene, you know, not that it's, not that anything would turn up. But, like, that's just. Like, could they sell. You're making the soap and it has dirty bathwater? Well, it's, yeah, like selling used underwear or something.

41:44It's like, when I saw that question about that the other day. Right. For Dear Toasters. How would you advise? If I found that out? I'm too old to make complaints at this point. I say, whatever you want. They'll take what you can get. I can take what you can get. There's worse things. He wants to be close to you. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's nice. He can jump in the shower with some Sydney Sweeney bath soap. Right. Would you rather find Sydney Sweeney bath soap or your own dirty undies? My own dirty undies. Agreed. So this is actually more concerning. This is a good gift. You know, every guy, like for the guy who like, Sydney Sweeney's my whole best.

42:19yeah yeah Merry Christmas yeah exactly exactly I mean I love the advertising around it I think I also think she's like she's just so fun to watch she's mesmerizing and Euphoria season 3 when is that coming out? Filming now TBD do you watch Euphoria? Of course yeah and also you're on the culture beat like you kind of have to I think even though so am I but I don't I think Sam's brilliant I think everything he does is brilliant yeah I really do you're Sam girly absolutely and I just not that I like even you do Yeah, I just I think the show is really. Did he also do that show with The Weeknd? Yeah, he did The Idol.

42:53And you thought that was brilliant. I haven't seen it. OK, she's marked safe. Mark safe from the end. Yeah, exactly. I haven't seen it yet. But I just think he's just really his dialogue's really good. It just feels really like fresh. And I'm so excited to see season three. OK, positivity. Yeah. Is there anything you don't like other than Anthony Dordain's? His legacy. Yeah, his stance. The fan base. That's always so frustrating when you say something like people run with it. She hates Anthony Bourdain. Like, that's not what she... So we just need to, like, make it known. Anthony Bourdain's fans.

43:21And the culture around... Yeah. No, I understand what you're saying. Eating too seriously, I think. I understand what you're saying. But it's frustrating to be misunderstood, don't you find? I do find... I am misunderstood. You know those, like, pillows they used to have from, like... Yeah, like, little misunderstood. Yeah, exactly. I'm like, I'm so goth because I got canceled this week. I need to go to Hot Topic and just, like, rage. It's been a rough one that she had to go to Daphne's. Oh, yeah, exactly. No, that part was really great. Yeah, exactly. I had to go undercover. Yeah. Here's the thing.

43:52I don't like me being misunderstood. No one does. But I think you get to a point where you see people intentionally misreading you. And then you start to kind of wise up and be like rise above. Yeah. When they go low, we go lower. That's what I always say. So I'm just trying to find a lower take. Yeah. I'm like, you have no idea the bottom that I'm going to look for and find. It gets worse. Yeah. You want to go? Hello? Yeah, let's go, baby. I mean, come on. I mean, what did I write about recently that I read Melinda Gates' memoir? Did not like that. TLDR. Complain, complain, complain. What's the tea?

44:26It's like, honey, it's like, get a bobble, get a plane, get some, spend some revenge money. I mean, the things, I mean, Melinda Gates aside, like, you're maybe one of the richest men in the world. I don't think he was particularly easy to be married to. But this this the book was just all about like I had to search for myself. I had to go on, as they say, in Real House of Salt Lake City, a healing journey, a healing journey. You know what? That's the word du jour at the moment. Healing journey. I was just thinking healing, period. I was just something like I was thinking about something. Everyone is healing.

45:01Everyone's on a journey. Do you watch Secret Lives of Mormon Wives? I watched the first. It's funny. My friend, my best friend is here. We were in Florida recently and I literally like forced our gunpoint to watch the first season. Some of the best television that's ever been made. It was like before the first commercial break, she had gotten pregnant, lost the baby, gotten pregnant again. That was on the pilot. Yeah. That was unbelievable. And then by the end of the episode, arrested. Yes, by the end of the... She is something else. She is, but I will never say a bad word about her. I'm obsessed.

45:31I just hope mom talk can survive this. I think that they can because of Taylor Frankie Paul. like she will rise above. What were we just, oh, Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, like they're all healing and they're all being held accountable. And that's always fun. That's my favorite. Healing is my favorite. I love, we love healing. We love longevity. Yeah. Immune boosting. Yeah, well now you're on. Polygen production. This is classic podcast banter. Don't you know? Really? Yeah. Well, not on this podcast, but other podcasts. These are the topics du jour. Well, I don't know if you've followed the Ace Family drama.

46:05You were telling me a little bit about it, but please be Claudia today and do a, Susie explains it all, because there's a lot of drama happening. There's a lot of scoop going on right now. And that's that Kathy Hilton sound. What's the second half? I forget. Oh, we love Kathy Hilton. We do. We love all the same people. Yeah, no, that's why I'm waiting for you to say something like really actually negative about someone. You're really positive. I'm generally really positive. I will say the Ace Family drama sucked me in this week and I could have some negative things to say about Austin McBroom.

46:37Basically, the Ace family, they're this YouTube family. They've been filming. Like a family channel. But like the biggest family channel. Okay. This is the one. They have three children. If I can name them, I really should get my University of Michigan degree taken away. Elle, Steele. Cute. And I forget the third one. But they broke up. There's been, for years, cheating allegations against Austin McBroom. Do you watch YouTube? Are you like a YouTube girl? No. Okay. I only watch The Toast. Just kidding. But no, I don't. Do you watch The McBrooms? I don't, but I like, I keep abreast. Okay. I go in my situation room and they tell me about it.

47:14But basically, they broke up. Catherine has a memoir coming out. Aliyah. Catherine has a memoir coming out, went on Call Her Daddy and sort of let it all out. What was going on with Austin, how he was cheating, how it went down. Austin goes on Snapchat. Looks like she's having a last laugh. I mean, come on, get someone to have you on their podcast. And he just sort of says that she became addicted to ayahuasca. She was taking it every month. She thought she was the Virgin Mary. And it's sort of this like classic. It's almost I don't say she experienced, but it's like she is like this kind of damsel in distress that she's been.

47:53Betrayed and she's coming forward about it now that she's on her healing journey. And Austin is saying, well, it actually didn't go down like that. She's crazy. and it's just been so fun to watch. Are you going to read her memoir? No. Why? I just feel like I'll probably just get the highlights. Yeah. You read Melinda's? I did read Melinda's, yeah. To what end? Just to write about it. And I wanted, here's the thing. I'm not going to read Catherine's memoir because you get all of the best bits. Like on podcasts. In the podcast and the clips on YouTube because that's what they're good. But Melinda's pretty much like private person.

48:27Melinda's a closed book. If you want to know anything about her. So I had to open her book. Right. But then she gave you nothing. It's like, don't tell me that you didn't find out about whatever was going on with Bill and go spend half a million dollars at Bloomingdale's. Right. You know what I mean? Or whatever her thing is. Did she ever say what's going on with Bill? Yeah. I mean, he had been unfaithful. Okay. But that was sort of known. But any like, is the word Epstein in the book? The word Epstein is... She says, she words it really interesting. She says, like, I had known Bill had stepped outside the marriage.

48:59but he had done something that had like betrayed not only our marriage but my values is how she put it and I'm like give us a little come on okay but that's like a pretty cool way to put it yeah like feed the otters a little bit like that's something I don't know I but I guess if you're gonna write a book like you've got to say something yes exactly yeah otherwise just don't write the book like we don't need you don't need to ever tell us but don't write a book exactly to like help other women who are in it's about like transitional moments in life which i think is a really good subject okay um and i think middle-aged divorce like as like gen x and boomer start to get divorced there's so much content around that right now yeah so much divorce content you know what i was thinking the same thing especially in reality tv between watching secret lives of mormon wives and the valley yes a lot of young couples getting divorced are there like starter marriages like they were married for a year no kids yes kids that makes it hard.

49:52Yeah, they all have kids. So I guess it's a starter marriage because they're going to go on to probably marry again, but they all have kids and it's like they are awful to each other. Co-parenting. That's another big word. Oh, yeah. As we're co-parenting. Yeah, but at least it's like a tangible thing that you absolutely have to do. We're healing on our co-parenting journey. Yeah, but there's no time for a journey because like the kids have to be picked up at three o 'clock. So why don't you get over there? Oh, my God. Bethany Frankel says a lot of really interesting stuff about divorce, co-parenting.

50:24Oh, I'm sure. Because she's really been through the ringer. Yeah. She was so brilliant. But then also, like, when you have kids, like, there is a limit to what you're going to say, no matter how awful that—for most people, no matter how awful that person is, like, that's your child's parent. Like, I would hope that there's a line. Well, it's interesting with the Ace family because they got famous exposing the family. Right. It's like they're— There are some people who have just been like, well, this pays the bills and it is what it is. And they've just sort of signed that away. And like even Jackson, Brittany, like they're not there.

50:52There's very little that they hold back because at this point they can't. That's their life. That's their job. It's as if they weren't doing their job. But some people who are just have other jobs like influencer, like even Kristen Cavallari is a good example. She doesn't I know she's probably been through a lot with her husband, but she doesn't talk that negatively about him. Yeah, I think I think it's hard. It's I think you have to kind of decide at the outset. And I love to watch influencers like after they have a kid, like this parent wants to show the face. This parent doesn't. Yeah. This parent wants to reveal the name.

51:19This parent doesn't because the kid can't really consent. Right. Did you watch the Paul Brothers show? I did. Did you love it? I loved they are. They're great American entertainers. They talk about that a lot. Yeah. I would. You watched it. I loved it. I loved it. But they had that conversation, Nina and Logan, about whether or not they would show their kid's face. and she was feeling more private and he was like, couldn't conceive of taking a photo and not posting it. But I think they're still in a flux because they were basically like, while she's a baby, like it kind of doesn't matter. Yeah, because their face changes so much.

51:50Yeah, but eventually. But then once they get older, you're like, well, we already posted her as the baby. Right, but if you get comfortable posting, like when, at what point is it like, okay, well today she looks too much like she's going to look. Yeah, you don't know. But I think their thinking was like, eventually when she's not a baby, they won't post so much. But from what I see, I don't follow them so closely on social media, but they don't really post a lot of, I don't know what they decided, but it's unclear. Well, they're just more like brands at this point. Like when I look at the Paul's feeds, I don't feel like I'm getting an insight into their life so much as opposed to just what they want me to know.

52:22Right. About Prime and about the boxing. Which is why the show is so great. Yes. They held nothing back on the show. Oh my God. And the parents. Yeah. Wild. It's so wild. And I think there could be nothing more vulnerable than bringing a television camera crew in with you to do ayahuasca. like I can't I didn't see that part oh yeah he went to Jake because Jake does it and he brought the dad because when he did ayahuasca he had all these breakthroughs so he thought that his dad would have the same ones and then they could you know get on the same page heal in an earnest way but um imagine like being on drugs and just like who knows what's going to happen next and they're just filming you like that's a serious level of like comfortability with just being totally open I think like the maybe galaxy brain take is that they only feel comfortable like that like galaxy brain like they're only feeling like their best self are able to share because like there's a lot of beef between jake and logan and i'm like are they even able to talk about it in private when are there are they always just like no we need to like parlay this into a a bit of content it really kind of gets you thinking that's an interesting point i wonder what they're like when no cameras are rolling but we would never know we would never know they're rolling they're how did they talk about it?

53:36They're like, it's like jackass meets Kardashians or something. Yeah, I guess that's a good way to put it. And they both live in Puerto Rico. They both live in Puerto Rico, but then like Logan has his family home upstate. That's where they were like nesting. Upstate New York? Yeah. Wow. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's like a cabin, but a big one, you know, but like log, log, made of logs, cabin, joggers, spring summer. I mean, the really interesting thing about that brotherhood is that Jake holds that the dad abused them. And Logan is like... He wouldn't use that word. He wouldn't use that word.

54:08Yeah. And figuring that out... Yeah. ...on television, I think, is a tall order. In addition to, like, the Alyssa Violet of it all. The girl. Well, this is actually funny. This is kind of where we started talking about, like, working with siblings... Siblings. Right. ...in your new media venture. Right. They're so... Your digital media venture with your siblings. They're so Ashtray Weiss coded. Yeah, we need a panel. We need Andy Cohen. And we need all the siblings. You know, the Pauls, the Oshers, the Weissers. I was going to say like a good podcast would be like sibling interviews, but that's actually what Kate Hudson and her brother do.

54:40Oh, really? They have a podcast called Sibling Revelry and they interview siblings. And Michelle Obama and her brother have a podcast now too. Do they interview siblings? They don't interview siblings. You need a niche. Yes. Do you podcast a lot in your daily life? Like, because you guys have a podcast. Barry has a podcast. Barry has a podcast. I'll like host it or I'll like pop in very, very occasionally. You were on a video talking about Haley B. well you were talking about something she came up oh I was talking about Justin Bieber and the crash out yeah and the crash um I don't I really want to do a podcast no no one would watch this so I'm not going to do it do you go on chat roulette ever no you remember it yes I go on chat roulette all the time still and I would love to do chat roulette the podcast where I just talk to people on chat roulette that's a pretty good idea isn't it a fun idea yeah because I think everyone who hosts a podcast is always like it'd be great if we got like regular people right how do you get them but the problem is you like you don't know what they're gonna say it might not be that interesting right so you might have a lot of stuff that ends up on the cutting room floor right that's true I think it would just be like it would have to be like kind of produced yeah but in a fine way that's fine so if you if I ever have a podcast that will be it but for now this is like this is like the biggest most glam podcast I've ever done well it's also the biggest most glam podcast period yeah that's true it is it's just so parkalicious well the biggest This most glamorous podcast on the planet is brought to you by Taylor Farms, which is another pargylicious brand that I absolutely love.

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1:00:39Who is it? It's hard to navigate a plant-based lifestyle. Do you have any dietary restrictions? No. That's good. I really don't. And I'm writing about the David Protein Bar, one of your sponsors. Huge amount of protein in that. Yeah. But I don't get the protein. I feel like once you start poking around internally, and how many people do I know who are like, I stopped eating gluten, I feel so different. It's like, I don't want that to happen to me. You don't want to feel so different. Well, then I can't eat gluten forever. Oh, that's true. I'm just going to get comfortable with whatever this is.

1:01:13And if I never find out that it's bad, then we're good. I feel like for at least like the people that I know who have stopped eating gluten, like it's because they were feeling wrong before, you know, and they were feeling like there was something was wrong. So then they had to find the source of it. But if you don't feel that way, then you're gluten intolerant. Are you gluten intolerant? No, no. Oh, yeah. Sourdough Queen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I eat everything. Would you consider yourself a girl boss? I guess like, you know, dictionary definition. I am a girl boss, but I don't identify as one, you know.

1:01:41Totally. like cult like I don't want to be a part of like the zeitgeist but yes I'm a classic case of a girl yeah yeah aren't we all it's advanced it's chronic it's yeah it is but it's now it's just it stands for something that I don't want to be a part of yeah it's like cringiness yeah I completely agree yeah Emily Sundberg the writer who does this amazing culture column called feed me writes about like we're kind of in like girl boss 2.0 era where you have like um I forget her name she's like a podcast, like an entrepreneur who has a podcast. It's a lot of like panels, sitting on panels and you're like sort of like business suit.

1:02:17Emma Greed? Yes. Crushed it. Crushed it. What'd she say about her? That she's just like the new incarnation. It's like we're kind of done with like. But I just want to say if she's the new incarnation of Girlboss, like I'm here for that. I like everything that she says and I like what she does and I don't find it cringe. And she's the real deal. She's also on Shark Tank. No way. Yeah, she was a guest shark. And she like co-owns all those Kardashian brands. And then she's also like a mom of four. And she's really doing it. She's a genius. And she like, when she does some of those panels, I see some of those clips go viral.

1:02:44Like she's doling out hard truths. Like things that people like don't want to hear. Like you can't have it all. You like can and you can't. Like something is going to suffer. It's not just like lean in. Lean in. Why don't you just lean in? Trying to lean out. Totally. Trying to lean all the way out. Totally. I'm too far deep now. I'm too, I've leaned in and I can't get up. Yeah.

1:03:07It's so true. Oh, my God. Are you seeing anyone? Single. Single. Ready to mingle? I was at my best friend's wedding this weekend, and I was with my other best friend. We kept going around. We thought it was funny. This is probably why we're single, because we thought this was funny, going, we're just married to our career. We just love our independent time. You know, I don't want someone else in the house with me. You know, just my career is really taken off. And it's like, shut up. Who cares? But yeah. Cute. Looking for the one. okay well we're gonna keep your eyes peeled we're gonna manifest yeah let's manifest my friend my friend called me the other day she was keep my eyes peeled you said you're 28 or 26 29 oh so you said neither so perfect let's go with 26 crush it um but yeah if you know anyone i will think about it yeah i only have a few um requirements funny jewish kind really tall if he stands on his wallet.

1:04:04I'm kidding. But we're also short, so it definitely opened up more candidates. Do you go on the apps? I'm not an app, girly. I think you've got to get on the apps. I've done the app. It's not like an I'm too good for it type situation. No, I know some people, it's just like, it's not ideal. And it's like, that's not what I said. I've gone on 10 ,000 app dates. Oh, okay. They just don't work for, it's just, it's never that. All the people I've dated, it's dinner parties, parties. I feel like you would have a big network. I do have a big network. I'm a shotgun. on I set people up oh you you do yeah I will have to chat offline yeah well yeah the one that you set up like would have worked for you no you don't want to set up someone who you want for yourself well of course but you know when they ever came across your desk you're like I'll take this one don't worry about it yeah it's file away okay I'm gonna make sure he's not poisonous yeah yeah that never happened no it's not happened yet okay how many people have you set up um one that like toy toy toy like two that i'm confident in what so the one is like new yes yeah no no marriages yet okay but you know if you get three shit off right straight to heaven so suzy like i think and it's also just really good juju and karma to set people up and i think there's like also a like setting people up in a certain way which is just like let them do it like oh do you want to meet this person do you want to meet that person here's the number hands off agreed don't try and do a dinner where you're going to bring everyone together like no here's the number of someone who is single eligible anything you would like yeah and if you don't want to reach out not my problem you know what i mean you just have to have a light time have you ever set anyone up definitely though i can't think of anyone i would love to have set people up i don't know why i thought i did yeah i've definitely said i'm always like i have an ear out you know but i just don't know that many guys is my problem well you my whole life is girls yeah it's true so that's why i can't like really be super helpful to any where are those guys hiding i don't know but also i'm just like not a girl who ever had like guy friends i don't have brothers like you're a girl's girl i'm such a girl's girl to a fault i know it's so much more fun though yeah oh i'm i'm a happy girl's girl yes it's very joyful but i guess yeah i don't have like connects and i don't have like great single guy friends and i went to a college that wasn't like super jewish so like i don't have yeah that's where i would have had even like so i just don't have that many.

1:06:19I know. I think of you guys as very like Yeshiva League. We are so Yeshiva League. Which is, I'm so jealous of the Yeshiva. I went on a gap year and like the Yeshiva League girls, I was like, they are so mean. They are so like cutting. And I love that. Where did you go on a gap year? To Israel. And did you go to Yeshiva High School? No, no. Secular? Secular. Public school. I went to Taylor Alderdice High School. Mac Miller went there. Wiz Khalifa went there. Oh, cute. It's like a culturally resonant high school. Got it. I could see that. We're you guys grow up in the city what'd you do in israel what sort of program it was just like a study it wasn't really religious but i figured but just like a study abroad it was study abroad it was travel i was like one watching donnie darko on an ipod touch in the back of a coach bus while people were looking at the taj mahal like i was really like it was i'm not really a travel girl me neither i don't care about it yeah no it's like people are disgusted when when they hear that yeah i don't like to say it so often but like if you know me like i don't travel a lot i don't have the travel itch.

1:07:19I really don't. I'll also say like this. This is my the Louvre. You know what I mean? I don't need to see the Louvre. Like right here talking to someone, having my iced coffee, swirling the ice around in Midtown. What more do you need out of life? It's like, what am I going to see out there that's going to be any better than exploring the depths of a new person? Yeah. What was your major in college? I studied business and art history. Oh, interesting. That's a good duo. Yeah, it was a good duo. And then I went into writing and girl bossing. And that gives you actually like a lot to, a lot of good foundation for like subjects, business and art history.

1:07:55Art, yeah, looking around. Art is a good thing to know. Art is a good, I think it's, people are so like, it's so hard to know what you're looking at and it's so easy to get embarrassed and not like feel like you have a valid opinion because you don't know everything about something and it's such a like cloistered world. But that really could be a, could disrupt that. We could disrupt that. Art history needs a new media disruption. Oh. Got to find some siblings. I think so. Well, are you ready for our next story? Oh, yes. Speaking of weddings, word has emerged, some word on the street about what transpired between Victoria Beckham and Brooklyn and Nicola at the Nicola-Brooklyn wedding.

1:08:31This is what sources are saying, that Victoria Beckham stole the spotlight at Brooklyn and Nicola's 2022 wedding. A source close to the Peltz family, so this would be Team Nicola, claimed that Victoria Victoria stole the happy couple's special dance during the reception. So Grammy Award winner Mark Anthony took the stage to perform at the wedding. And the story goes that he was supposed to sing a song that would be Brooklyn and Nicola's first dance. Before the song began, Mark Anthony asked Brooklyn to come to the stage and then said, the most beautiful woman in the room tonight, come on up, Victoria Beckham.

1:09:04Which is not what a bride wants to hear. So the move allegedly left Nicola feeling that Victoria ruined her wedding and she couldn't understand why. a second source who witnessed the moment said everyone then watched Nicola run from the room crying. During the wedding. During the wedding. Nicola felt like Victoria did this on purpose when she knew it was a pre-planned romantic dance meant for Brooklyn and Nicola. What she couldn't understand was why she would do it. So it was such a jaw-dropping moment the source said that it left the whole room in absolute shock. You could hear a pin drop. It wasn't appropriate they said.

1:09:33So honestly I know this is just sources and stuff but like I believe it's just specific. Because also after the wedding, like no one wanted to be near each other. There's two sources who are saying like, this is what happened. And I feel like a weird thing like this is exactly what could derail an otherwise perfect wedding. But it wasn't a perfect wedding because weren't all the vendors stealing from them? And like the party planners, they were having issues with that. And also the other beef from the wedding is like Brooklyn. Nicola didn't wear a Victoria Beckham dress. I think that sort of just like didn't work out.

1:10:04And it just wound up looking bad for both of them. Like, why wouldn't you wear, Even though it's not like when I think bridal, I think the bride has to wear Victoria Beckham. It's not like she married Vera Wang's son. Yeah, exactly. So that didn't seem so smelly to me, but I could see something like this happening. And maybe Victoria... I don't think Victoria said to Mark Anthony, say this. I think Mark Anthony made a bad joke. I think so too. But I think maybe in light of all the other dynamics that were happening that weekend, and I'm sure Nicola might have felt some sort of way, like Victoria is this larger than life person.

1:10:33and like when you're in a room with her, like she's kind of the number one girl in this group. Nicola can hold her own. She can, but like it's your wedding and to feel that way, and emotions are already heightened. I could see, I just could see it. It seems feasible. It seems like something that's so innocuous that like no one went out of their way to do anything wrong, but it could totally derail the party. Yeah, it's like you're just, you're like on a knife's edge, just ready to fucking go berserk, I feel like at your wedding. And it's just one word from Mark Anthony, one wrong word. Oh, and she says plenty she could say back to him.

1:11:02Yeah. But this is all on the heels of the fact that Brooklyn and Nicola were not to be seen at David Beckham's 50th birthday party. Yes. And the feud has picked back up. So after the wedding, they were like totally separate. They weren't speaking to each other. And it was like bad. And then they all came back together. And they were all supporting each other. Family events. She's in the documentary. Like everything was good. And then they didn't go to the birthday party. And now they're not seen together again unless like things have happened. So also team Brooklyn, Nicola have said that like the Beckhams are like narcissists, another buzzword.

1:11:36Yeah. And, you know, it's just like hard to be around them. And I guess if you think that way about someone, then something like this would really upset you. Yeah, that would really upset me. But it's like it's it would be so easy for Nicola and Brooklyn to come out on top by being the bigger person. And just like, of course, going to the wedding, of course, or the birthday party. They can in private say whatever they want and be like, that was horrible. I'm so annoyed. I hate them. But they get to look like not like bratty kids, essentially. And like, it's so much better for them when they're with the family.

1:12:09And like, there's just like, it's all good as opposed to them to being like this wayward couple that's like out of touch with their family. We had reported a few weeks ago, The Sun reported, I don't know if it was true, that Brooklyn and Nicola were having dinner with Harry and Meghan. No way. I mean, similar storylines there. Yeah, but like, I just, I wouldn't follow that template if I were that. I'd run the other. I'd say, what did they do? Let's do the opposite. And Nicola's like, should I start a jam business? Or what is it called? American. American Riviera Orchard. Is that the current name?

1:12:40Yeah. No, it's changed. It's changed a bunch of times. But with love. With love from Megan. With love. As ever. As ever. As ever. Yeah. The thing with Brooklyn and Nicola is it's like when two dynastic families merge. And I think both of their families sort of have this idea of like, we're the primary family. We're the number one family in this group. And that's where that's where issues happen. And I think if it were another girl who was who didn't come from Nicola's background and something at the wedding happened like this, where it's like, again, about the Beckhams. Like she would maybe just be used to it and be like, that's just, you know, what the family I'm marrying into.

1:13:14They're just going to constantly make everything about them. And like, because I'm Cinderella, I'm from like nothing. I'll just be like small here. And it's Victoria's moment. It's her friend. I could never have Mark Anthony at my wedding. She's like, I could have Mark Anthony. Right. Name your price. right yeah like i would have just paid you to sing the fucking song i wanted to sing i didn't need your favor right exactly but it's like money can't buy you class yeah as as we learned from countess luann yeah i feel bad i hope they find a way through i know but it's just not good when it gets to this point no like when i'm talking about it yeah but also it's like brooklyn never really had an identity outside of being a beckham like yeah he tried the photography he tried the chef chefing i hear he's trying to be a f1 racer but he keeps failing his driver's license test I read that somewhere.

1:13:56His license to drive? Or maybe to drive one of these like big fancy cars. I can drive even. Barely. But I can't do it. Oh my God. Yeah. Our fifth and final story is a little update from yesterday. The Chrisleys have been released from prison. And Julie Chrisley has been spotted for the first time since her prison release. So Joey Camasso was on the toast yesterday. Pondering Julie's, the status of Julie's hair. He's fabulous. He is so great. So fun. And I really hadn't given him much thought prior to or even afterwards where he said like, how is she keeping up with the blonde? I'm like, I don't know.

1:14:25Even if she went back to her roots, it wouldn't be a big deal. And then a photo emerged of her leaving the facility. And it's kind of a big deal. She looks so different, but happy. I mean, that's a recession indicator. Her hair is the least of her problems at the moment. Six hours in the chair and she'll be right as rain. I think we're looking at someone. Her hair looks sort of like brown, almost auburn. And then the gray has grown in significantly. Yeah. And it's almost like halfway down. like an ombre from hell yeah so it's like if she went in there full blonde and then she went in full blonde i'm guessing oh well if if she went in there full blonde then it started to grow out brown and then it started to come in gray she weirdly looks like fresher there's something about the it's the look of freedom yes she's free yeah she literally even though i'm sure everyone's clowning on her hair like she does not give a fuck this is a happy woman yes oh my god To get out of the slammer, I wouldn't care what my hair looked like.

1:15:24Seven years and then in one day you're home. Yeah, it's like, don't worry about the hair, guys. I'm going. That's what I'm saying. I wouldn't be surprised if she never dies. Like everything's changed now. I mean, talk about a journey. She's really been on a journey. She has. And I hope she doesn't go back to blonde. I think it's time. The Chrisleys need a full rebrand. That's true. Even if she went to brown. But there's such a blonde. Like I don't watch Chrisleys stuff. So like I'm not so deep in it. I watched it. It was an early spinoff. Chris Lee Knows Best. Yeah. Was on Bravo, right? Yeah. And they're a really funny family.

1:15:56They're almost like, they're like Southern Bumpkin Pauls a little bit. Like, they'll just do anything. Yeah. And then, and people like, they've been on TV forever. And Joey had also said that they are like filming right now. So I guess like the status of her hair and how she feels about it would be on whatever show they're. I hope that's not a major plot point. I think it might be, given the public's reaction to this photo. That's her literally leaving the jail, do we think? No, I think no. there's a cereal and milk store right behind her. I think it's like at some point. She just went to get the zero milk car after she was released from prison.

1:16:31But I think they've been like trying to get a picture of her since she got out. I'm happy she's free. I don't think the public was made safer by Chrisley being locked away. I don't think she was like a public safety hazard. And you don't feel unsafe. Yeah, I'm not like getting a deadbolt because the Chrisleys are out. You know what I mean? It was insider training, right? It was tax evasion, bank fraud and tax evasion. Not a good look, but who among us? It's a classic case of reality. Not me. Don't look at me. I would never. I would seriously never. Oh my God, that would be such a reality show with all of the Bravo leberties currently incarcerated.

1:17:10Or a reality show of former incarcerated reality stars who have to sit down and do their taxes. and get fit. Right. Well, they're already fit because they were in jail. Yeah. But like watching them fill out a 1099. Or maybe it could be educational. Like here is how you do it. Because I think sometimes it's malicious and sometimes I think they just don't know what to do with all this money and they don't know the laws and what you're supposed to do. Right. When you start like getting all these brand deals and like nobody teaches you that. Well, that's obviously different too from Jen Shah and what she's been accused of.

1:17:46Well, yeah. Or what she did. Yes, because that's not like some paperwork missing. That was nefarious. Oh, yeah. You think that Chrisley should be doing like financial literacy education? I think a lot of people should be doing financial literacy education. And I say this like earnestly, like outside of reality stars, even though I think they have it worse because it's just overnight. Yes. And overnight money. And everyone's asking you for things. If you go from having a job where you get a paycheck and they take your money out for taxes and you never have to think about it to then like getting this influx of 1099s, W9s.

1:18:17I would have no idea what to do. Right. That'd be my hair. In 10 years, I'd be walking in a jail with that hair. And I'm not saying that's what happened to them, but that does happen. Right. So I just think for everyone. They're not like criminal masterminds over here. Right. But also for lay people, the tax system is fucking confusing. I literally just do TurboTax and I just click as fast as I can and just get to the end. I just got a credit card like last send up a prayer that you don't go to prison literally yeah I'd rather pay more right of course I'm like just take it of course I'll pay for this to be over of course no I'd rather pay more like every time so crazy this is why I need a husband right I'm like I'm like was it worth it but you're a business major it's like yeah I get to wear pants I'm so excited I get to make my own money still have to pay my rent still have to figure out how to do these taxes but you're a business major they don't teach you that no they don't what the fuck do they teach you who knows like econ networking that's a good skill i don't have that one no no me neither you're not a schmoozer well i'm definitely a schmoozer but people like strangers just like putting yourself out there going up to people do you love a work event happy hour drinks i like performing like with people i'm there's that there's like a lot of hope core online right now like there's like a girl on tiktok who just goes up to random people in the street and it's just like, hey, how are you?

1:19:36Like taking the car out this week. I see like just I think that's a really good muscle to have. And I think anyone should be able to talk to a stranger, but it's not like what charges my battery. Right. Yeah. I'll say that. I agree with that. I agree with that. Well, now it is time for Queenie and Weenie of the week and you've come prepared. So let's start with Queenie. I have two Queenies and I'm going to start with my first obvious one to give a shout out to Claudia because she hasn't been had she has had an incredible queenie like week giving birth new motherhood and just um a transformative week for our Claude and she is exuding queenie like behavior so she is my queenie always and it's not fair if we like do each other for queenie of the week because then we just be queenie every week but because she's not here I feel like I can say she is my queenie and then in my I don't want to say celebrity Queenie because Claudia is a celebrity, but also Hayley Bieber.

1:20:29Hayley Road Bieber, everyone. Yeah. You counted her out. You thought she was like, I feel like everyone thought she was just like a, I mean, she was already wealthy. She wasn't a gold digger, but sort of like just wanting to be famous, had no personality. And it's like, look who got the last laugh. Yeah, seriously. Even though people are like, you know, she has a million investors and it's 600 million cash and she's got to pay people back, whatever. She probably nets out to 100 million, 180 million is what they're saying. I think that's a take home. Take home. I think it's more than that. If she sold the business for a billion dollars.

1:21:00But like if she had a bunch of investors and there's three co-founders. But she didn't invest anywhere close to like. And it's$600 million cash, $200 million stock, $200 million bonuses when they achieve certain benchmarks in the future. They're going to achieve the benchmarks. Yeah. I mean, I saw you were talking about it. It's 10 products. Yeah. It's unbelievable what she's done. Even if it's$180 million or$100 million, like that's what she needed. if things were getting like tight with like that's what she needs to live her life and now I think she can sleep easier do you think she's gonna leave him no I don't she's she's I also think that she loves him like shocking yeah like I think that she loves him and I think she loves her life and her family and like and I think she whatever issues there's obviously issues he's obviously not at his best right now right but like that's what a marriage is is working through them I think that's how she sees marriage I don't know her at all it's just yeah well they're very religious yeah and so i don't think they would you don't just leave like because the going gets tough and he's being weird at the hockey game even though i think it's so much more than that but i think she's like stand by your man and if it's the rumors are true she's been wanting to be with him since she's 13 like you think she's getting up now i don't think so no no she's probably in it for the long haul and like once people have a baby they want another baby yeah she'll want to give jack a sibling um i love that name i love that name i would use that name but I'm Jackie.

1:22:16Oh, that's true. Otherwise, like... But do people call you Jack? No, but I couldn't have a son named Jackie. No, but... A son named Jack? Yeah. Yeah, because then you would just end up calling him Jackie. It's just the same name. It's the same name. It wouldn't be appropriate. Right. Like having a... You can only have boys now. Well, I'm having another. Gender reveal. I read... I put on Patreon, but I haven't said it here. I'm pregnant, by the way. That I knew. I figured. Because you're swirly. But I... Thank you. Only on Patreon have I said the gender. but I also had here now exclusive. Boy. Wow.

1:22:47Yeah. Wow. So very exciting. That is so exciting. So girl mom, forget girl boss, you're a girl mom. Boy mom. Boy mom, boy mom, sorry. Yeah. That is, what is it like? I love it. Growing up with all sisters. It was a complete, I never expected this. And I just kind of assumed I would always have girls because that's all I know. Like I said, I have no guy friends. Like I don't know other, my husband. You've never met a man. I've never met a guy. So to have like my first boy, The first having, finding out I was having a boy for my first, that was like the most shocking one. And then immediately, like, I became obsessed.

1:23:18And then when I got pregnant again, I really wanted a boy. Yes. So that they could be close, they're close in age and that they could be brothers. And I just loved having like a same-sex sibling. And so for this one, this was the first time I did not have a preference. Because if it was another boy, like, iconic, I'm obsessed. Yeah. But if it was a girl, like, so exciting. I finally get, like, my girl. But I'm so thrilled. Wow, you have a lot of kids. That's so, so exciting. I love that they can't be queenies of the week yet but do you ever do your kids as queenies? no no it's usually more in the pop culture things that we've spoken about on the show so those are my queenies your queenie is Haley as well my queenie is Haley I think she yeah she just really came out on top similar to Sydney Sweeney I think she's just really good at being a celebrity and she's really good at giving the people what they want she like kind of engages in the drama and like a little bit.

1:24:12She did that Vogue video where she So funny. Uda Nepo was the perfume. And the tincture from the witch. Oh, the tincture from the witch? She pulled out a tincture and she was like, I take this every day. My dad like took me to see a witch in the mountains when I was 12 years old and she said if I took it every day I would make a Canadian pop star fall in love with me. Thanks, dad. I didn't see that part. That's really, really funny. Yes. I love the way she's engaging with it. And her Vogue cover was already queenie behavior even though Justin tried to like take a big... That was so insane. That was so insane.

1:24:40I was going to nominate him as my weenie of the week. Oh. For that. Okay. Justin's your weenie of the week. Yeah. And so I think they balance each other out. The Haley and the Justin. Yeah. Sometimes your queenie and weenie, it's same story, married to each other. Yeah. So it's net neutral. The family's okay. That's just like really a theme that's coming up of like these successful women and these men who are sort of like not really flailing. Flailing. I would argue a little bit. that's what's happening with the Beckhams. Which one? With Nicola and Brooklyn. Yeah, but it's not like she's any more.

1:25:17It's not like she just like achieved success. That's true. But honestly, in three years, we're going to be talking about how Elf bought her cosmetic company for a billion dollars. Nicola. Yes. Yeah, I'd try what she's doing. She has not unlocked her... Full potench. Full potench. I agree. That is... Okay, so I don't know how this works. This is my first time here. Do we discuss more about the weenie? Who's your weenie? And now I kind of want to say Mark Anthony. I love that. That is so lame to do at someone's wedding, even if someone told you it was funny. It's like there's just minefields, I think, a lot in a wedding and like the groom speeches and like people think things are funny that they're not.

1:25:55Or like you see those videos of husbands smashing cake into women's face after they've gotten like a full beat. And it's like, don't do that. Yeah. Like it's not about you. And like you don't want to cause a bride to run out of the room crying. Yeah. So I think he's my weenie of the week. That's such a good one. And I agree. Like I can, sometimes people could be like, something comes off wrong or they didn't mean anything. But to say the most beautiful woman in the room and it's not the bride, like, are you dumb? Yeah. Are you dumb? Maybe he is. Maybe he is. Maybe he's a weenie. That is a true, that's true weenie behavior.

1:26:26I love that. Amazing. I love that. From three years late, but it's never too late. It's never too late to be the weenie of the week. It can never be. No one's safe. No one. No. We're going to dig it up. So thank you so much, Susie. It's been a pleasure getting to know you and co-hosting with you. And I appreciate it so much. Where can everyone follow? I know you're like not on Instagram, but where can people follow you and keep up with your work? This is so fun. On X, I'm at Snoozy Weiss. Okay. S-N-O-O-Z-Y, I think underscore W-E-I-S-S. But mainly everyone can read my writing. I write a culture column every week.

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1:28:14This has been a blast. I hope everyone has a great weekend. I will be back on Monday with another Pardy co-host and we're gonna have a great time. So enjoy the weekend. I love ya. Bye.