The Good Gals of Turtlandia: Wednesday, February 11th, 2026

9:19Jackie Oshry:You sound like bad money. Like you never stop believing in yourself. And that's why you are where you are. And that's why I was able to enjoy the season spoiler free. Correct. Much like bad bunny. Correct. Now we've got lots of stories today. Anything else you want to chat about? Like what's, what's going on with you? Let's do a new mama check in. Like how was baby sleeping? Um,

9:38Claudia Oshry:still, we're still at like waking up often to eat throughout the night, but it's brief, you know, it's like eating then right back to sleep. That's good. Yeah. It's not like, an hour of like rocking. It's just right back to sleep. So that's okay. And, you know, I think we're going through a spurt, I believe, a long spurt. So that's OK. The other night, though, it was the morning when you weren't here. I was telling I was telling the studio we got like a really big stretch. Yeah. So everyone was really excited for me. That's huge. Yeah. Like the first wake up was like 4 a.m. All in the crib. Huge.

10:08Claudia Oshry:Huge. Huge. Yeah. That's great. Oh, and new mama checking like I believe, such I hope that my hair is falling out right now because I'm losing a lot of hair. So I hope like this is it. Yeah. You know, not like a more to come, not something unrelated. Right. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, I believe my hair is beginning to fall out and I'm doing everything in my power to keep it at bay. I don't expect to not have any hair loss, hair shedding, but I'm just going to try and keep as strong as possible. So I'm doing all the things and I'll see you guys on the other side. Yeah. The thing is, like when I blew out my hair this morning on the floor, it was all over

10:44Jackie Oshry:my legs. I know it's like the worst feeling, but you know what? Like you should. Let's just try and be positive. Right. Thank God you have a lot of hair. Like people who don't, who get, you know, postpartum hair loss and don't have a ton of hair to start with. Like, I think it's a little bit more obvious. Thankfully, you have luscious locks. I don't, it doesn't look like you're losing your hair.

10:59Claudia Oshry:No, and the hair loss isn't even the worst part. It's the regrowth. When it comes back in and it's just like little like spikies that don't fit anywhere. So I'm not like really looking forward to that journey. But that's a whole part of the process, you know. And I feel like the first time around, like it hit me like a ton of bricks. because I also felt like, okay, you lose your hair. I'm going to lose my hair, whatever it is, what it is. I'm not going to do anything to try and prevent it. That will make it more sad if I'm working actively against it and failing. Then the second time I was like, you know what?

11:26Claudia Oshry:We could do the serums. I could take a couple supplements, just to nourish mama. And I feel like it was much more manageable. And so I'm doing the same things this time around. I don't expect that it's not going to happen at all, but to have it be a bit measured, tempered, that would be great.

11:43Jackie Oshry:Okay. Well, we're rooting for you. Thank you so much. and you know of course co-toast at Nutrafol.com the women's and the postpartum formula Nutrafol, Divi Vegamore serum is very good I love the serums

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12:10Jackie Oshry:what's going on with me?

12:11Claudia Oshry:what's going on with you? let me kick it back to you new mama update eight not much you know not much how solids i actually don't want to talk about it i don't

12:23Jackie Oshry:want what's your you're not a baby led wiener are you oh fuck that okay and i really need to stop like watching tiktoks and stuff because like what works for someone doesn't work for me and sorry all these bitches are dumb like i every time i try something that i saw on the internet i'm like what the fuck am i doing like this is a real life human like not like some pet okay so i need to I stopped watching TikTok. What did you see? Just like people who are like doing like three full meals a day. And then I actually had a pediatrician appointment, like a telehealth with our pediatrician yesterday.

12:55Jackie Oshry:And she was like, milk, we're still milk. I was just doing so many solids, like calm down. And I'm so not doing baby lead weaning. I don't have the stomach for it, except like when we do, to try, you know, you have to introduce allergens and you know, Jewish mamas know Bamba. And I do like the Bamba. That's the only baby lead weaning we do, but it's purees until we don't have teeth. Okay. Puree all day. Yeah. But think about me. Like we don't have teeth. Yeah. And then like, I do see a tiny bit of tooth coming in and I'm like so excited about it. And I was like all excited until I saw Tik TOK last night being like, you know, my baby's tooth coming in, I'm excited.

13:31Jackie Oshry:But then I realized, you know, this is the last I'll see his gummy smile. And it's like, Oh, now I'm upset. Like it's just, I fucking hate Tik TOK. That's what it is. Well,

13:40Claudia Oshry:I agree with that. Yeah. The less time on TikTok is the better. I'll endorse. 1 ,000%. 1 ,000%. But that's on me. Like, I need to. And also, like, you need to trick your phone into, like, serving you other content. Like, have other interests. Like, I get a lot of Mahjong stuff now. You know what? I get, like, tips and tricks. Mahjong, Mahjong, Mahjong. I love playing Mahjong with my friends.

14:01Jackie Oshry:My favorite game is Mahjong, the National Mahjong League. Oh, my Mahjong. Bam, crack, dragon, dot. Charleston. Flower, Charleston. Rolor. Rolor. We love Rolor.

14:16Claudia Oshry:Rolor greater than Taylor. Sometimes. No, I'm kidding. I love it. It's on Compton. No, no, no. She definitely loves Mahjong. And if she doesn't, she's about to.

14:24Jackie Oshry:She actually doesn't because I think that we would know. She shares her hobbies with us. We know she's really just now we're down. And she'll write a song like, I love that bam crack dot. No, I got it. Your love was crack like the sound. Then you crack me wide open. Yeah, you love to dip me down like those green, green dragons. Yeah, she's always like, she's like sexy now. So crack, like I'm thinking of the tile, you know, but she's obviously thinking of her crack. His love was the key that opened my thighs, cracked her wide open.

14:59Jackie Oshry:His love was the key that opened my crack. That's the next song when Taylor gets into Mahjong.

15:09Jackie Oshry:that's wrong yeah i'm excited for that we're marching today and then like she's gonna have like mahjong games the way like all the girls keep leaving restaurants or whatever with her sourdough yeah there's only gonna be three people because it's a four-person game so it's like who's in the in the crew that's how we'll know who's keeping up with taylor yeah that is so funny we've got great stories today i'm kind of ready to dive in i don't have much to share on the personal front um agreed i think we've shared

15:36Claudia Oshry:a lot on the personal front i think we've dilly dally for 15 minutes which is pretty much like the extent of dilling and dallying but in fact about us filming in florida is we have a clock

15:43Jackie Oshry:and we don't have a clock um when we film remote and how do you feel about the clock i feel good

15:49Claudia Oshry:it's like great to know wow we spoke for 15 minutes i would have thought it was like seven yeah so we're actually like overdue for the fast five right and maybe if we were at home we would thought it was short and we would have kept going back and yeah right what color that was dark no i think it's good for people like we're just two girls like sharing breakfast yeah and like that's how your morning went like you hard-boiled some eggs and it didn't work out for you like we want to know what's going on with her itself yeah don't censor yourself you don't know who out there needed to learn don't boil the eggs from the farmer's market don't you don't know who needed

16:20Jackie Oshry:to know that don't do it don't do it without further do to do to do here are the fast type

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22:57Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Ali. Our first story, major news. Jill Zarin has been fired from E's roni reunion show, The Golden Life, after her rant about the Bad Bunny halftime show. So a lot has happened in the last 48 hours for one Miss Jill Zarin. She must be devastated. Yeah. So during the Super Bowl, she was like real time posting her thoughts on the halftime show. And she posted a video saying it was the worst halftime show ever. She really didn't like it. Why wasn't it in English? He's grabbing his crotch. Like all the elements. It was like inappropriate. It was in Spanish. Lady Gaga looks like she had a facelift.

23:34Claudia Oshry:Who even is that? And it was just like, you know, ranting against she didn't like the halftime show. A lot of people like found it to be offensive. And like the day after she wound up deleting. it and then the new e-show the golden life dropped her from the show which i think is so absurd i

23:50Jackie Oshry:think it's so first of all like i can only i'm seeing this from jill's perspective like jill has been really wanting to be back on tv and i don't think she would just have taken like any opportunity so i do think she was actually a big part in getting the group together not necessarily as like a producer but just a big catalyst for the show making things happen you know morgan's not producing television no but jill's very organized she's friends with a lot of the girl she's friends with Kelly so I do feel like the show getting sold was like a big feat for Jill and the fact that she's not going to be on it like I imagine she's sitting in a dark room pitch black completely devastated like mourning I think she's devastated I think she is too I think

24:25Claudia Oshry:she has every right to be I think this is such an overreaction I think that people are not are allowed to not like the halftime show like I happen to like it but I I think it's okay if people didn't like it too that's like with any halftime show like you're allowed to not like it It doesn't have to be like this big, crazy thing. And then people can discuss and write hate in her comments and be like, you're this and that.

24:45Jackie Oshry:But like the fact that they dropped her from the show is really great, especially when this show is supposed to be like celebrating women for who they are.

24:51Claudia Oshry:They got taken off of TV 10 years, five years ago because it was like we're done with this kind of woman and we're bringing in a different kind of woman. And now it's like people still want them back. Just let them be who they are. And I feel like if this show is already like already trying to like stifle them, censor them, oh, you can't be this way. Like it's not the show that I thought it was.

25:13Jackie Oshry:Well, also, the show is about women in their 50s and 60s who moved to Florida from New York. And that woman doesn't like the halftime show. Like that's just I don't know what people expected. So I agree. It's shocking that so swiftly I didn't I didn't I was following it. I didn't know that it had gotten to like this big of a point. But like I don't think that it did.

25:32Claudia Oshry:No, no, it got like people were talking about it. But I think to be like dropped from a show that hasn't even started yet, this would have blown over in days. It's really not a big deal that Jill Zarin did not like the halftime show. Like that's not big news.

25:43Jackie Oshry:It's so crazy how far it's gone. Like the Zarin Fabrics website, like at the top of their website, put up a banner. We are not associated with Jill Zarin. We have not been associated with Jill Zarin in like, you know, 17 years or whenever they sold the website. Oh, since Bobby's death. They literally wrote that on the website.

25:59Claudia Oshry:That's an insane thing for a company to post. And like, I'm glad to know that because like I would have went to Zarin Fabrics because like I happen to know I knew that. Now I don't want a Zarin Fabrics rug. Who are you then?

26:09Jackie Oshry:Well, it's not part of Jill. Don't you feel like the halftime show has kind of become like April Fool's? Now, follow me. OK. In recent years, like it became a thing where like female celebrities would say that they were pregnant on April Fool's and very swiftly there was backlash. And it became a thing like you just knew not to do it anymore because like every year there's someone who's going to do it and they're going to get canceled for it. And it's become almost like a trope now. We wait every year to see which female celebrity. And now in recent years, it's like, if you don't like the halftime show and you post about it on social media, it's like a hole you fall in.

26:40Jackie Oshry:Last year, who did it? Do you remember? Tyler Cameron. He was at, and he was like, worst halftime show ever for Kendrick Lamar. Canceled. Racist. It's like a, it's almost like a rite of passage now. It's becoming, it's reminding me a lot of.

26:56Claudia Oshry:So if you don't like the halftime show, you just can't, you can't say that? Like that's what it's becoming. I don't like that. Me neither. You're allowed to not like things. You're allowed to not like things. It's really like not that big of a deal. It's a 12 minute entertainment show. It's like people. That's the point of it is to spark conversation. I think it's so overblown. And if this is what the new show is about, I thought the show was like, let's pick up these women. We love who they are, who they've been and like, let them do their thing. They're already like censoring them and trying to like fit them into some like, I'm not watching the show.

27:28Claudia Oshry:and if the women were smart, they would rally around Jill and say, well, none of us are doing the show and not even because they care so much what Jill said. All of them are like marking themselves safe. I loved it. Okay, well, we have to talk about the social media activity of all the women. If they were smart, they would say we're not doing this without Jill because then the network can't do that to any of them. It's just like drop them because they did something wrong. And Ramona's next. Trust me, they're going to do something wrong. Luann in her costume. Oh, yeah. Even when they're well-intentioned, they're going to mess up because that's just who they are and that's why we love them And it would be smart of them to say, well, then there's no show without Jill because that will protect them all in the long run.

28:02Claudia Oshry:If they start doing this every time you mess up, you get knocked out. There will be no show. 100%. Like if the show does move forward without Jill, I'm not watching it. I thought this was going to be like, let's let these women let it rip for better, for worse. You know, you might not like everything I say, but it will be interesting and they'll be themselves. If it's like this watered down, like Bravo. No, thank you.

28:22Jackie Oshry:Well, you're 100 percent right about the women really not being a smart decision. I'm sure they were like, OK, as long as it's not me. Yeah. And while that might serve them in the next six months, it sets a really bad tone for the show because these are all women. Of course, you know, thank you for reminding me about the costume. Luanne's costume. Ramona has a sordid history. So it's just a matter of time before one of them, one other one of the other women is where Jill is at. And so it's really not smart, but it was very interesting. And I saw it all happening in real time. The social media activity of all the women.

28:58Jackie Oshry:I don't think any of them were going to say anything about the halftime show. I doubt any of them watched it. Like, I don't think they go to Super Bowl parties. Like they're not, you know, keeping up on current events. I don't think they gave a fuck. And then they started to see the backlash to Jill. And, you know, it's like, well, how do you feel about this before anyone even asked? Sonya was out there posting pictures with her Latino friends saying, I love my Latino family. Kelly Killor and Ben Simone posted like a lot of quote about inclusion. Yes. love just sort of like leave me alone this is you know what i mean like a shield and while maybe that worked for them today it sets a really like dangerous precedent and if they all did say you know this just leave jill alone it would have protected themselves from future um cancellations so it does feel like that maybe wasn't a smart move no it's it's not a smart move i i think

29:45Claudia Oshry:this was so this was so crazy i was shocked and i just know she's crushed yeah because beyond her

29:53Jackie Oshry:being excited to be back on tv this big back end wise was a lot of her doing i also thought like

29:59Claudia Oshry:we were past this as a culture as a culture like this is like classic cancel culture i mean cult it is on tv you can't hold an opinion that like differs from the group think or else you will lose your spot on the television show that hasn't even already aired like and you're getting it because of who you are. It's not like you're a nobody and oh, you fucked up before you even. But everyone knows who you are, what you're about and you can't be yourself. Yeah. I really, I was so shocked by this that we're still in this vicious cycle. It's so stupid. It serves nobody. You're allowed to not like the halftime show.

30:33Claudia Oshry:A thousand percent. You don't have to lose your job.

30:35Jackie Oshry:And Colton's on traitors.

30:37Claudia Oshry:And Colton's on traitors.

30:38Jackie Oshry:Like that's, you know what? That's where I'm like actually for cancel culture. Like yeah, the man who's talked to his ex-girlfriend and put a tracker on his car. Like you could, I could sunset you, you know, like, yeah, but it's really crazy.

30:49Claudia Oshry:And plenty of people say like hateful, stupid things. Nothing. Yeah. She didn't like the halftime. It's, it's insane. Yeah.

30:58Jackie Oshry:It's really crazy. And I know that when she posted that, she had no idea. It was like this. I think she thought it was probably a hot take, but I think that she thought like, that's

31:05Claudia Oshry:what they want from us. That's why we're back on TV. And that's why people are so excited. That's why people missed us because everybody else is so like watered down and scared and we're going to be like the brazen OGs. And I think she thought she was giving people what they want, even if it's not what they like thought themselves. But it's just like, it's a hot take. It's very hot. Too hot.

31:22Jackie Oshry:Did you also see the Roni new women like also marking themselves like their social media? Oh, my God. Yeah. It was really being like, I can't believe how much hate I'm getting from liking the Bad Bunny show.

31:33Claudia Oshry:Oh, that's what the influencers are doing. They like said something nice about Bad Bunny. Then they like find one comment of someone being like, I can't believe you liked it. and they're like the hate I'm getting is not okay you guys

31:45Jackie Oshry:oh it's so crazy but I'm telling you like the halftime show is now like a thing well I just

31:51Claudia Oshry:want you guys to know like when I see a halftime show if I like it I'm gonna tell you and if I

31:55Jackie Oshry:don't like it I'm gonna tell you yeah and it really has no bearing on the um like on anything else other than like I'm here sat looking for like was I entertained what like and something

32:07Claudia Oshry:else that she said about the halftime show which I felt a little bit but I just feel like that's just everything now is like the inappropriateness like of the grinding and stuff yeah we didn't watch it with the kids it's not family friendly but I would I think everything is like that now

32:19Jackie Oshry:yes that's not a bad bunny thing that's like an entertainment that no and I think like the bar for what's considered family friendly has sufficiently been lowered um let's bring it

32:27Claudia Oshry:back up yes I agree because that's why I didn't watch it until Monday morning yeah because it wasn't even on YouTube until Monday morning all Sunday night I was looking to watch it but because we forgot to record it as I explained that on YouTube TV like yeah maybe a little more family friendliness I would appreciate that would just be convenient for me but I guess nobody else cares and that's also like a standard we're also like so far gone like you know Chapel Roan showing up with her yeah it's like that that actually bad bunny performance was PG no right so that's like I

32:56Jackie Oshry:didn't see a nipple right and that's what I'm saying like our consideration is considerably lower but that doesn't mean that like I would let my kid watch it right so yeah we waited um so yeah let's see what i mean i don't i don't think they're gonna undo it i think for the most part but because the halftime show has been such a polarizing topic of conversation for the most part people are glad that jill there isn't like this nobody is saying that this is crazy they're like yeah serves her well because everybody's scared yeah maybe i should be more scared i am

33:29Claudia Oshry:scared i don't i think it's so clear that this is so wrong and i feel like we always talk about how like sometimes when people are getting canceled you do sort of want to be like nobody wants to defend the person getting canceled and then jump on the sinking ship like you just are like okay it has nothing to do with me like this is not my play this is not my problem but i don't know like if we're going to talk about this story like as a person with a conscience like i feel that this is wrong and she's allowed to not like a halftime show and i think this bodes ill for this next show that i no longer am interested in watching not even because of i love jill so much and i don't like the other women i just think then this is not the show such a bad tone this

34:04Jackie Oshry:not the show I thought it was. Yeah. I thought it was like our crazy gals. You guys, they're literally six year old women who used to live in New York and they moved to Florida. Like, what did you expect? Right. So I thought that, yes, when they picked up the show, it was like we're leaning in 100 percent. And then the first sign of struggle, you're out. It's yeah, it's very. Lame. Weak.

34:28Claudia Oshry:Lame. Are you ready for our next story? A little Olympics news. Olympian Stirlaholm leg ride holds back tears as he admits to an affair in live television interview after his medal win. So a Norwegian bi-athlete won the bronze medal at the Winter Olympics, but he admitted to fumbling a gold medal woman during an emotional interview after his victory. He also fumbled a gold medal because bronze is not gold. Right, right. So during his post - game interview, he became mournful and tearfully admitted to cheating on his romantic partner. He said, there is someone I wanted to share this with who might not be watching today he said he met the love of his life six months prior and then three months ago made the biggest mistake of his life and was unfaithful all of this in an interview she's getting choked up yeah he said that he came out about his infidelity about a week ago so it's like sort of dicey where things stand with his lady love

35:23Jackie Oshry:yeah they're very much in like the figuring it out phase and he thought like this grand gesture might help i think it would help well she said um like no please excuse me from this narrative one in which I never asked to be a part of. Like I don't think she's enjoying like seriously being embarrassed on a world stage.

35:36Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but I think this is him taking accountability on the world stage. Now like.

35:40Jackie Oshry:No, but now everyone knows like if they end up together that like he cheated on her.

35:43Claudia Oshry:Okay, but like people have been through that. Look at Jelly Roll and his wife.

35:48Jackie Oshry:Did he cheat on her?

35:49Claudia Oshry:Yeah. How do you know that? That's a part of their story. Oh, okay. I think we were part of it like mere weeks ago. And it clearly stuck with you.

35:55Jackie Oshry:And not with you. No, not at all. The part of their story that stuck with me is that.

35:59Claudia Oshry:What I'll say though. them yeah like i don't want to get into it okay what i'll say about this though it's like they were dating for three months before he cheated on her like you like that's really really bad

36:10Jackie Oshry:is it isn't it worse to cheat on someone you've been with for three years i feel like by then you

36:14Claudia Oshry:could be like we were roommates like when you're in three months it's like the honey like what in three months it's like well i didn't know if we were like still oh i guess or i guess but i just

36:23Jackie Oshry:feel like this relationship is a wash and we should just start over it's only three months of your

36:27Claudia Oshry:life i just want to say like looking on the bright side even though i think cheating after three months like you you stand no chance no and also being in a lying for half of it because it was a

36:36Jackie Oshry:six-month relationship he cheated three months in and it just came to a head yeah no it's bad

36:40Claudia Oshry:it's your toasters this is also kind of like love bombing to then make this grand gesture on the other hand like i do feel like he's taking accountability in the biggest way he possibly can like by owning out his mistakes on the world's largest stage i just know that interviewer felt

36:55Jackie Oshry:so weird like so awkward I didn't know where the conversation was going yeah and it's not like they're this famous couple like nobody knows her nobody knows him it's just really awkward I feel awkward for everyone but like mostly the girl who was I don't know who was a man or a woman

37:12Claudia Oshry:like interviewing the athlete oh I feel bad for like the person who got cheated on of course then embarrassed embarrassed maybe had to tell her family but not all her friends she was just like it didn't work out and then they're like oh slava yes oh he cheated on her sterlom

37:33Jackie Oshry:crazy what a weirdo i did not i think there are people who might have found this like grand gesture romantic ick for me like yucky i don't know you know what i need to know about sterla's past and i just want to say it might have given me less of a nick if he won gold for sure and we don't talk enough about how he could have won gold with all of this on his mind though i don't think we talk enough about and this is someone you know coming from someone who's quite literally never won any sort of athletic challenge in her entire life it is really weird the olympics like you get an award for losing because in any other sport like you come in second it's you it's called being a loser um whereas you know you're coming in third and you get a medal it's really crazy yeah no i mean

38:16Claudia Oshry:third best in the world. Yeah. Pretty good.

38:20Jackie Oshry:For all we know, like I could be eighth best, you know?

38:22Claudia Oshry:I just need Sterla. Like I need to know more about Sterla. Does he have like, what's his dating history, cheating history? Like maybe he, this is a pattern. Did he make like, did he seriously make a mistake? And like, this lady is the love of his life. And like, he's going to do everything to win her back.

38:37Jackie Oshry:Right. Like you need all this information. I need no more. Like I want no part of this. I feel deeply uncomfortable. I'm sorry that that happened. and wishing you all the best. I'm team Sterla. I'm team USA. I'm team Utah. I'm team Ilya. Ilya.

38:54Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I'm team Utah Jake. I'm team Utah Jake. Are you ready for our next story? Some exciting biz music news for Britney Spears. She is yelling. Really quickly. Do we not have Nancy got three updates? Oh, you know. Oh, sorry. I meant to choose the nest doorbell. And then they also took someone into custody.

39:14Jackie Oshry:They took someone into custody. And the guy this morning did an interview being like, I have no idea who these people are. They brought me in. They didn't even ask me questions and then let me go. It's giving like performance.

39:23Claudia Oshry:Well, apparently he was in some way tied to the Bitcoin address that was in the ransom. So he's a delivery driver.

39:29Jackie Oshry:He seemed like a really nice guy. It actually felt really bad.

39:32Claudia Oshry:No, he didn't even know who Savannah Guthrie was. He said he doesn't watch the news.

39:36Jackie Oshry:And he's like out here giving interviews. Like, I don't believe he is involved. It seems like this investigation is like upshades. I have nothing. And I feel like. Or it's being purposely derailed because I did fall down a rabbit hole.

39:48Claudia Oshry:Oh, please share anything remotely hopeful.

39:50Jackie Oshry:So, you know, Savannah Guthrie was the person to interview Virginia. I want to say her name is Virginia Woolf, but that's the.

40:00Claudia Oshry:That's the old I'm the author.

40:02Jackie Oshry:Yeah. But the Epstein victim who really blew the case. Sorry.

40:06Claudia Oshry:Guffrey. Guffrey. Virginia. Virginia.

40:09Jackie Oshry:Okay. The Epstein victim who like really blew the case wide open. Now, if you're on Epstein talk, which I unfortunately am, it was kind of this breakthrough interview. I think Savannah maybe continued her correspondences with Virginia. Virginia has since passed, of course, very suspicious. And perhaps this has something to do with that. Now, if you're in on the Epstein files, like, of course, this has Epstein written all over it. If you're not in the Epstein files, you sound like a crazy conspiracy. There's like everything is Epstein. Everything is Epstein.

40:42Claudia Oshry:Everything is Epstein. What they were doing was worse than you even could have possibly imagined.

40:46Jackie Oshry:And when you hear things about what's in the Epstein files, you're like, well, you're obviously all crazy conspiracy theorists. It's not. No, it's not. So this could be Epstein coded. And I just want to say, if I go missing, anything happens to me. I have no plans to take my own life. I'm happy. I'm healthy. And I'm not suffering from any sort of mental illnesses.

41:02Claudia Oshry:So they just think her association to Virginia, like maybe she knows something.

41:06Jackie Oshry:Maybe she was actively working on a report. She is like an investigative journalist. Yeah. So that's what the Epstein talk people think. Oh, so it's like back to Epstein. Well, because this is giving just like gross incompetence. You're arresting some rando.

41:18Claudia Oshry:Yeah. You have nothing.

41:19Jackie Oshry:The thing you release to the public is two men or a man in a ski mask.

41:22Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And so they did release surveillance footage, which I was saying like since they had and I was like, oh, maybe they know something and they don't want to share how much they know. But now they're like pleading to the public.

41:31Jackie Oshry:If you know anything about this masked individual, like we literally have eyebrows to go off of. Yeah. And the delivery driver had totally different eyebrows. Yeah. yeah it's giving they have nothing it's not a lot and savannah's instagram just like keeps like i thought there was like so the fbi is involved like the local police so you would think like there's a lot going on now i'm of the mind that

41:52Claudia Oshry:like they know nothing i thought there was a moment where it was like on the being kept close to the vest the video that she made like we would like to celebrate her it felt like they knew

42:00Jackie Oshry:something nothing no i i don't know and joey camas said about where the hell is nancy yeah where the hell is Nancy it's not funny anymore

42:10Claudia Oshry:it was never funny but like vanished without a trace so freaky yeah and every major law enforcement is on this the whole country

42:20Jackie Oshry:I was watching the Olympics and they stopped the Olympics broadcast with an NBC breaking news alert

42:24Claudia Oshry:and what was the alert and I was like oh my god they found Nancy because it said Nancy

42:31Jackie Oshry:got three so I knew they were about to say something man has been taken into custody and we have

42:37Claudia Oshry:the ring footage like it was like that was it and it was and it was nothing nothing that's that's not good um britney spears yeah sorry back back yeah she no no i'm glad that you brought it up though because i meant to discuss it because yesterday was the most news we've had in a few days um britney spears has sold her music rights to primary waves so britney spears has sold off some of her rights tied to her catalog of music to company primary wave sources confirmed to the Hollywood Reporter. With the deal, she sells off a stake in one of the most iconic catalogs in modern pop music. Currently unknown is how much they spent on the rights, though TMZ, which first reported news of the sale, suggested it was comparable to Justin Bieber's$200 million sale in 2023.

43:18Jackie Oshry:I'm really relieved because I do. I know people worry about Britney and like a lot of different aspects. I worry about her financially. This is a person who was really like run dry by the people in her life, like lawyers, her father, her family, like everyone. The conservatorship was just like a scam for people to take her money. And it's my belief that while she was freed from her conservatorship, she had like very little money. And I think the book, her book deal was like a huge thing, like helped her live for a little bit. But I think she lives like a big lifestyle. So I worry about her financially, amongst other things.

43:45Jackie Oshry:So I do think 200 million is desperately needed. And I'm glad for that. Although I hope this isn't a decision that she would come to regret because I don't believe she's in like a very sound state of mind.

43:56Claudia Oshry:I don't think she would come to Reddit as long as they paid top dollar And if she got around 200 million, I just hope that she has some sort of like advisor business manager. So she's not just like spending it on crystals or whatever. Hollywood people do their money on and that it will be like spent wisely on rent. And I think this is also great for the culture because I don't think she'll be doing much in the way of like new music, putting out anything like using her old music. But now like we could get a Britney Spears movie. We could like they could be in commercials. like it will just be back in the zeitgeist so i think it's like a win for everyone and hopefully like they use her music well and she uses the money well she need money we need music

44:38Jackie Oshry:but for me this might be like a crazy question do you think her music is worth more or less than justin bieber's i think more yeah actually yeah but she didn't sell her whole steak so what she sold like a portion of it or like just some of the music

44:56Claudia Oshry:yeah like a couple songs or like 50 percent of each song right right i feel like it's 50 percent

45:02Jackie Oshry:of each song great so that hopefully they can like yeah put it in commercials and movies and she can continue to have passive income like i think she doesn't have a lot of revenue streams no so if there's someone out here owning half of her music and putting it on random commercials in china and she gets a mailbox money i think that's great yeah in addition to 200 mil oh in addition to a lump sum always take the lump sum but there needs to be an advisor yeah there needs to be systems in place so that she doesn't end up where she was last time because when you are like in a vulnerable mental state like people in hollywood like they circle like vultures yeah

45:34Claudia Oshry:plus she likes to you know go on vacation she lives well that britney spears that britney s pierce today's episode of the toast is brought to you by unreal i have been loving unreal for so many years in my household and now doing ads for them like i didn't know that was happening but I'm so excited to tell you about Unreal. So Unreal are better for you candies. They have dark chocolate coconut bars. I love a chocolate coconut bar. I don't know if you guys knew that about me, but that's kind of like my favorite candy. They also have dark chocolate peanut butter cups. Claudia does love a peanut butter cup as who I, who doesn't love them, but I really do love coconut.

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51:46Claudia Oshry:Go to Nanit.com to get 20 % off a Nanit camera or the exclusive Nanit system with home display only available on Nanit.com. Use code thetoast at checkout. That's N-A-N-I-T dot com. Code the toast. Are you ready for our next story? Ansel Elgort is the new papa.

52:05Jackie Oshry:I forgot about Ansel Elgort. Right. But he's been. As we should, you know. Becoming a father. So Ansel Elgort.

52:14Claudia Oshry:With the ballerina?

52:16Jackie Oshry:No, no. The ballerina came across my TikTok quite recently. She like tours all over the world with like this fancy Russian troop. She's Russian. And she's like a serious ballerina. like the type of ballerina they made center stage about, you know? Violetta, right? What did I call her?

52:30Claudia Oshry:No, no, I was just trying to recall her name. Yeah, Violetta.

52:31Jackie Oshry:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gorgeous, gorgeous girl. Yeah. I don't believe that they're still together. Can we just double check that? She sort of left with a whisper. Wouldn't you? Wouldn't you if your long-term boyfriend was accused of what?

52:43Claudia Oshry:He was accused, for sure. But it was with a whisper, not with a bang.

52:47Jackie Oshry:Well, let's see. Who's the mother of this child? Oh, I guess we don't know, but he took to... It's not Violetta. It's not just a close-up. It's not just a close-up.

52:54Claudia Oshry:that they're not okay so he posted like a beautiful shot of him with a baby um saying fatherhood is exhilarating exhausting it's everything and more can i see the present feels more present and the future feels brighter he wakes up all night and yet i've never felt stronger during the day he goes from crying such a dad thing to say totally i'm up all night but i'm so tough during

53:18Jackie Oshry:the day meanwhile sleeps through the night you know he goes from crying to laughing expressing

53:22Claudia Oshry:everything he feels and it's freed me to do the same. I wanted to keep it sacred just for us but now I want to share this story with you as it's the brightest happiest thing I've ever experienced. I hope it brings you happiness too. So much love. Ansel.

53:34Jackie Oshry:Well that's great. Just don't rape you know like that all that's great. That's great. Don't rape. That's sort of my advice and that's all good and well congrats um and i like what we've done as a society like i feel the me too movement was a grossly performative movement where no real change in hollywood was enacted it was just a way for celebrities to feel good about themselves i mean there are still like so many predators in place and it's really not a safe place for young women um but the me too movement ate down with ansel elgort although i don't feel like that was like the institutional hollywood it was the internet like yeah like it was the audience because he was still in west side story right

54:16Claudia Oshry:Right. But then no one went to see it. And then it was like, oh, maybe we can't keep putting Ansel in our movies because no one will see them. Yeah. Rapists don't make good actors. Actually, the audience has spoken. Yeah. Loved that. Like, yeah, the community ate down with that. I literally forgot about him. No, same. But people were so shocked that he reappeared yesterday as a father. Yeah. Mazel Tov. Semen Tov. And Mazel Tov. Moving on. Moving on to our fifth and final story. Oh, it actually shouldn't have been fifth and final. obviously didn't org the stories this morning, Tom Brady grabbed a fistful of licks at Super Bowl licks.

54:52Jackie Oshry:I just want to say, it wasn't a fistful. Like, there are ways to grab asses.

54:55Claudia Oshry:Okay, Tom Brady grazed the licks at Super Bowl licks.

54:58Jackie Oshry:The word is a caress.

55:00Claudia Oshry:Tom Brady caressed the licks at Super Bowl licks. Love that. It was a bit of a caress. It was like, it was honestly so middle school. Really?

55:10Jackie Oshry:Middle schoolers are not that smooth. I thought it was very smooth.

55:12Claudia Oshry:I was about to put my hand on your waist. Oops, I touched your booty. Yeah.

55:17Jackie Oshry:he did the yawn yeah no he um and shout out to the person who was standing within six inches of them and didn't give a fuck right like literally phone up not even trying to be sly um so these two are obviously like this isn't the second time they've seen each other they've definitely hung out between in between new year's and super bowl yeah um i just i really i was so it's so shocking it's so great for alex or like i can't i couldn't think higher of her if i wanted to you know like every time i set a goal for her she just out goals me the way this makes me think so like gross of tom brady like he has kids close in age to alex or all um it's just so funny how the mind works you know yeah yeah well you had told me about the tush grab and then you saw it and what sort of feelings came to mind?

56:10Claudia Oshry:It was definitely intimate and it's definitely real. Yes. You know?

56:14Jackie Oshry:And this was also at like an unofficial Super Bowl party. Like it was a private event. It wasn't a branded event. So they were just like really kind of behind closed doors, like feeling safe. They didn't know there was like a paparazzo right behind them.

56:23Claudia Oshry:I just can't believe like he's going forward with this despite like the reaction. Which was overwhelmingly negative for him. Which was why I said to Olivia, like maybe he really likes her so much that he doesn't care what people think because like it's not going to stop him from following his heart.

56:38Jackie Oshry:I feel like that could definitely be the case because what's not to like? She's amazing. I love her. I have a crush on her. Like, she's so everything.

56:46Claudia Oshry:Mm-hmm.

56:47Jackie Oshry:And as Olivia said, like, they're both goats in their field.

56:50Claudia Oshry:Right. They have a lot in common. With just being the greatest. The greatest athletes of Turtlandia.

56:56Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Gold-winning Olympic athletes representing the land of Turtlandia. I honestly just couldn't believe what I was seeing when I saw the Tosha. You like? Yeah. She's so little. He's so big. Like, it's really a dream. It's what a smut novel is made of, you know? Yeah. It's been a while since we've had, like, such a shocking couple. Yeah, who comes to mind? Like, Taylor and Travis.

57:17Claudia Oshry:Oh, yeah. When you see it, it's like, no. Like, Pete and Kim. Yeah, like, you hear about it, but then you see it. And I'm like, that can't be. But it is. And I'm still in that phase of that can't be.

57:28Jackie Oshry:Yeah, no, I've sort of settled a little bit. Like, I understand what Alex is doing better than Alex does, you know? Like, this is obviously not the great love of her life. They will not be having children together. he's merely a stepping stone for her. Well, now that you've said that they will. Yeah. Cause I, I'm like Loki, a terrible predictor. Same. Yeah. But that's just a girl, you know? Yeah. People who are obsessed with like, I predicted that. Like, okay. Like, okay. Good for you. The internet is obsessed with like predictability culture being like, I predicted that like this was going to happen.

57:56Jackie Oshry:It's like, well, yeah, obviously like it's also like so obvious what they predicted.

58:00Claudia Oshry:Yeah. But yeah, they'll be like, I called it that so-and-so was pregnant. They've been married for like a number of years and have expressed a

58:06Jackie Oshry:desire to have children right okay yeah and what did you get for that i'm just like obsessed okay look i'm i feel like i'm the antidote to predictable culture like i got it wrong your prediction yeah

58:19Claudia Oshry:yeah although i did predict you're predicting kelsey ballerini is gonna have a baby this year

58:25Jackie Oshry:oh it's not did i say that you did we didn't talk about how they um broke up they broke up and

58:30Claudia Oshry:clearly they broke up like it was news monday but olivia was here and i wasn't gonna do that to her

58:34Jackie Oshry:And also they broke up like in a matter of 12 hours. Sunday she was at the Grammys on the red carpet, like talking about her renaissance with Chase and being like, you know, I just believe in love and whatever. Like, I know this is messy. We're keeping it off the Internet. Like, I'm sorry. I was like, OK, that night she's with Madeline Klein. They're posting pictures. Her and Madeline Klein both unfollow him that night. And then that Monday morning it's reported like it literally happened. What do you think happened? I have no fucking idea.

59:02Claudia Oshry:Maybe her and Madeline like compared notes of an overlap. Maybe like Madeline had some information that Kelsey didn't know about. Or maybe he reached out to Madeline in like a sexy type of way.

59:10Jackie Oshry:And of course, Madeline being the girl's girl that she is.

59:12Claudia Oshry:No, or like Madeline saw him with another girl on set and was like, oh, I thought you guys were broken up. But it was this day. And she was like, wait, no, we were together that day. He was telling me this, that and this. I like that. Yeah, 100 % it's that.

59:21Jackie Oshry:So I take back my prediction that Kelsey Valerie is going to have a baby this year. My bad. No, but I did correctly. Remember we just made that video of things I predicted? Oh, Tom and Alex Earl. Oh. So I am right when it counts. Okay. Yeah. The big one. Yeah. But also it's only February. Because another baby still could have, or not have a baby, sorry, pregnant. Okay. I'm taking that one back. Yeah. That was sort of contingent on her and Chase working it out. And like, I don't want to speculate for her. Yeah, no, it's an annoying thing to say.

59:51Claudia Oshry:I'm sorry. I take it back. Yeah. That's weird that we said that in 2026. Like, I would think we're so evolved.

59:56Jackie Oshry:I'm not. Like, okay, I'm not. I am not evolved past like certain things, you know? No, but you are. Like I wish. Yeah. I'm toxic. Like I want Taylor and Travis to have a baby. Taylor, I think that that's something she wants for her life. I'm not putting pressure on her. I just think it's something she wants. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:12Claudia Oshry:But I think we put a little pressure on Kelsey.

1:00:15Jackie Oshry:And I don't even know why I said that. Like I sometimes just say stuff, you guys, like mariachi, you know? And I said I would never say that word again. So starting now.

1:00:23Claudia Oshry:You can say mariachi all you want. Just don't say that Lady Gaga did mariachi. Yeah.

1:00:28Jackie Oshry:but you could do mariachi and i just want to say like i know that mariachi like is exclusively mexican and i was like it was like a latin performance and people think the only thing like mexican people are latin like no i'm not fucking stupid like i just said the wrong word it happens all the time it's not that deep like it's not that deep i've been saying that we're

1:00:44Claudia Oshry:precarious like a lot and you've been saying precocious when you mean precarious yes thank

1:00:48Jackie Oshry:you again you do it again but it is quite precocious you know precarious but it's also precocious well it depends what we're talking about and i feel as though when we're speaking of it it's an extremely precocious nature well that means we're like being very uh erudite in the manner in which we're speaking we're being erudite i couldn't have said it better myself title what does erudite mean and precocious and let me say this is how we spell erudite?

1:01:24Claudia Oshry:Having or showing great knowledge or learning.

1:01:26Jackie Oshry:Tell me what it starts with. E or A? E. Okay. E-U? No. Oh, fuck. E-R? Mm-hmm. I? No. Y? No. E? No. Erudite. O? No. R?

1:01:45Claudia Oshry:Erudite. U? U.

1:01:48Jackie Oshry:E-R-U? D-I-T? Yeah. Oh. Oh, erudite. And precocious. Oh, I know how to spell precocious. P-R-E. No, I was going to give you the meaning. Precocious. C-A-U-T-I-O-U-S. Was that right? Sorry, I wasn't listening. P-R-E-C-A-U-T-I-O-U-S. No. Precocious? No. That's precocious. Is that a different word?

1:02:10Claudia Oshry:If it's a word, P-R-E-C-O-C-I-O-U-S. Precocious. Wait. And it's having to do with the child. C-O-C-I-O-U-S. that's wrong it's having to do with a child like being uh indicative of early development certain abilities earlier the age than usual advanced i really actually feel like i don't need to know

1:02:33Jackie Oshry:what precocious means because to me it means precocious you know yeah i love did you ever um have a spelling bee i don't think so just in like my dreams you know yeah i had a spelling bee once and the way i remember what word i got out on warranty no i hate the word so much because of it like don't ever use it um benevolent you don't feel benevolence towards the word b-e-n-e-v-o-l-e-n-t benevolent yeah i think i did like volent v-a you know it's fine that wasn't your destiny was to be a spelling bee champion certainly not but i did watch a lot of akila and the bee growing up um so i like i understood the importance of knowing how to spell yeah i'm not an amazing speller.

1:03:18Jackie Oshry:You don't need to be.

1:03:20Claudia Oshry:Not in this day and age with technology. Right, like the same way that

1:03:23Jackie Oshry:you don't need to be amazing at math because everyone has a calculator.

1:03:26Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

1:03:27Jackie Oshry:You don't need to be a good speller. There's auto-check.

1:03:29Claudia Oshry:Yeah. You just have to be still a good talker. You just have to be a good person. A good thinker. Not even. You just have to be a good person. That's so hard for these bitches. Fucking telling me.

1:03:39Jackie Oshry:They're not us. No. We're the good gals. I love that. Thanks so much, you guys. What a great show. I've had an amazing time being here with you all today.

1:04:01Claudia Oshry:Love ya. Bye. Leave a message about make it nice.

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