In short
The Toast hosts discuss TV recap (Summer House Reunion Part 3 and Love Island), plus celebrity news (Taylor Swift at Toy Story 5), and rant about Ticketmaster ticketing.
Guests
No guests appear in the transcript; only hosts Jackson Claude and “Jernifred/Koji” (and “Ben” is mentioned as a spouse, not a guest).
Guest backgrounds
Not applicable (no guest interviews).
Key claims
- Love Island: the hosts argue votes matter most on this show; they supported specific bombshell pairings (Caleb with Kenzie; Soul with Sincere; Jen with Gabriel) and claim “Melanie and Sincere is not it.”
- Love Island “felon” joke: Koji says she’s a “felon” because she can’t vote via the app/email, but still influences listeners.
- Summer House Reunion Part 3: they say there’s “no clarity” on timelines, Wes and Amanda show “lack of emotion,” and Andy Cohen handled accountability neutrally.
- They claim the reunion focused on a “big mistake,” with speculation about emotional vs physical affairs and medication (“beta blockers”) affecting emotion.
Notable examples
- Summer House: Wes crying to Jesse; Andy asking “are you medicated? beta blocker?”
- Taylor Swift: performed “I Knew It, I Knew You” and “You’ve Got a Friend in Me” with Randy Newman at the Toy Story 5 LA premiere.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSummer Merch Excitement
0:45 to 1:54
Hosts discuss their summer merch collection, styles, and personal experiences.
“We've got two of our iconic one-size t-shirts and two new pargy ass designs.”
Summer Merch Excitement
1:59 to 6:00
Hosts discuss their summer merch collection, styles, and personal experiences.
“That was just when the president was there.”
Ticket Troubles and Plans
6:00 to 9:30
Discussion about ticket sales for a game and the hosts' plans for the event.
Love Island Recap and Voting Insights
9:30 to 12:55
Hosts share their thoughts on Love Island, fan voting, and its impact on shows.
“Like in the middle of the day, it was like 541.”
Ticketmaster Frustrations
12:55 to 14:35
The hosts express their frustrations with Ticketmaster and ticket prices.
“Maybe you're like not meant cut out for this.”
Dinner and Plans
14:35 to 16:58
A light conversation about dinner with Olivia and plans for a sister trip to Greece.
“like why don't you tell me about what you made for dinner last night oh i went over to olivia she made a little greek feast you know she loves greek if you guys ever are trying to like flatter Olivia.”
Dinner and Plans
17:01 to 18:32
A light conversation about dinner with Olivia and plans for a sister trip to Greece.
“If you don't know Vivrell yet, you're missing out.”
Dinner and Plans
18:37 to 20:03
A light conversation about dinner with Olivia and plans for a sister trip to Greece.
“One of the biggest things that I've swapped out are my cleaning products.”
Dinner and Plans
21:07 to 22:37
A light conversation about dinner with Olivia and plans for a sister trip to Greece.
“one of my fave brands for the mamas and the papas, actually.”
Ticketmaster Rants Continue
22:40 to 23:28
Expressing frustration over being banned from Ticketmaster while trying to get tickets.
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Summer House Reunion Recap
23:28 to 28:00
Recapping the key moments and sentiments from the Summer House Reunion Part 3.
“going you guys let's start a go fund me for turdys tickets and let's get our courtside seats No, I just, I want to choke the person at fucking Ticketmaster.”
Conflicted Feelings in Relationships
28:00 to 29:00
Exploring the complexities of relationships, particularly focusing on West and Sierra's dynamics.
Inconsistencies in Exclusivity
29:00 to 30:40
Discussion about the unclear nature of exclusivity in West and Miha's relationship.
“where there's a couple of conversations.”
Emotional vs. Physical Connections
30:40 to 34:00
Debating the difference between emotional and physical connections in relationships.
“Yeah, the Miha stuff for me, especially because it's like when he met Miha, Amanda was married.”
Casting Changes and Storylines
34:00 to 35:30
Discussion on potential casting changes and the future direction of the show.
“So if they want to numb themselves, I honestly can't blame them.”
The Nature of Reality TV Dynamics
35:30 to 37:30
Analysis of how the audience's perception impacts the cast's future on the show.
“I feel like the audience hates them so much.”
The Impact of Scandals on Shows
37:30 to 39:10
Exploring how scandals influence ratings and viewer engagement in reality TV.
“No, and because they were so withdrawn and like so unemotional, they were also unemotional when talking about each other.”
Taylor Swift's Surprise Performance
39:10 to 40:40
Details on Taylor Swift's surprise performance at the Toy Story 5 premiere.
“So whether or not Kyle and Lindsay are there, like we're still watching the show.”
Taylor's Bridal Aesthetic and Future Music
40:40 to 42:00
Speculations about Taylor Swift's bridal look and her upcoming music themes.
“Taylor Swift surprises fans at the premiere of Toy Story 5 with a performance of her new song and a bonus duet.”
Taylor Swift's Bridal Era
42:00 to 43:19
Discussion about Taylor Swift's outfits and potential bridal aesthetic.
“Okay, that like is a good reason not to get married.”
Upcoming Taylor Swift Album
43:20 to 44:19
Speculation about Taylor Swift's next album theme and its connection to her personal life.
“Like, so just like to perform with Randy Newman.”
Toy Story Connections
44:20 to 46:08
Conversation around Taylor Swift's performance and nostalgic connections to Toy Story.
“Everyone's so excited about the Jessie song, Toy Story 5, that, you know, I had to explain, comes out in a few weeks.”
Joshua Bassett's Struggles
46:09 to 48:51
Discussion on Joshua Bassett's revelations about his past drug addiction.
“It's always going to be a good payday, but there were a couple that just - Carried franchises.”
Carl Radke's Podcast Evolution
48:52 to 50:16
Analysis of Carl Radke's podcast direction and its focus on serious topics.
Katy Perry's New Romance
50:17 to 55:04
Discussion on Katy Perry's relationship with Justin Trudeau and its implications.
“Katy Perry calls Justin Trudeau the love of her life and says she feels anchored by their romance.”
Katy Perry's Concert Film
55:05 to 56:01
Overview of Katy Perry's new concert film and its reception.
Comparing Levels of Fame
56:01 to 57:26
Discussing the similarities and differences between public figures and their fame.
“I saw the crazy clips, but I imagine there was other stuff.”
Comparing Levels of Fame
57:30 to 58:57
Discussing the similarities and differences between public figures and their fame.
“The GameTime app gives the advantage back to fans.”
Comparing Levels of Fame
59:00 to 1:00:18
Discussing the similarities and differences between public figures and their fame.
“If you're like us and you're trying to get in more than two sips of water a day, you're going to love Bloom's New Daily Hydration.”
Comparing Levels of Fame
1:01:49 to 1:03:13
Discussing the similarities and differences between public figures and their fame.
“Resort Pass partners with over 2 ,500 luxury hotels and resorts across the U.S., Caribbean, and Mexico.”
Comparing Levels of Fame
1:03:17 to 1:04:18
Discussing the similarities and differences between public figures and their fame.
“You can enjoy summer cookouts, patio happy hours, as vacations while still hitting your weight loss goals.”
Comparing Levels of Fame
1:04:22 to 1:04:34
Discussing the similarities and differences between public figures and their fame.
Love Island USA Recap
1:04:34 to 1:10:01
Recapping the latest episode of Love Island USA and discussing plot developments.
“the first fan vote of season eight so last night's episode ended they threw to a fan vote and apparently the app glitched.”
Drama in the Love Island House
1:10:01 to 1:12:09
Discussion about the current romantic tensions and dynamics among contestants.
Soul and Sincere: An Elite Duo
1:12:10 to 1:13:35
Analyzing the strengths and personalities of contestants Soul and Sincere.
“Because Caleb will have to choose someone.”
Relationship Dynamics and Challenges
1:13:36 to 1:16:48
Exploring various relationships and potential conflicts among contestants.
“Let me tell you if these two couple up, I will vote for them to win the show.”
The Reality of Being on Love Island
1:16:49 to 1:19:42
Reflecting on the challenges contestants face in reality TV and the implications of their actions.
“Like, I think that it was very convenient for that to have been like a really attractive bombshell.”
The Reality of Being on Love Island
1:19:43 to 1:21:49
Reflecting on the challenges contestants face in reality TV and the implications of their actions.
“Cause like, you know, a brand would never do a brand deal with a porn star.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03Claudia Oshry:Good morning, girlies. It's the Toast. It's Jackson Claude and we're your hosts. It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast. I sound amazing.
0:24Jackie Oshry:Welcome back to the Toast and happy Wednesday. It is Toast Summer Merch Drop Day. Yeah, that's right. Toes number merch shop drops today. Yodeling is your culture. That's not yodeling. That's Moroccan. I'm Moroccan. That is my culture. I'm Kraken. I'm Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah. Yeah. Merch shop. Everyone. Toes merch. Shoptoesmerch.com. Shoptoesmerch.com. We've got phone cases. We've got hats. We've got two of our iconic one-size t-shirts and two new pargy ass designs. I wore them to the park yesterday. Everyone was talking about it. But I'm wearing right now the Swirly Lavender Set in size extra large, nice and cozy.
1:01Jackie Oshry:Highly recommend sizing up if you're looking for like more of an oversized look.
1:04Claudia Oshry:I'm wearing the sweater of the summer, I would say. By the way. This cream quarter neck with a beautiful blue emblem. Quarter neck? Quarter zip. Half zip. The way I envision this sweater being worn this summer, if I may paint a picture to set the scene. in addition to wearing it as you would wear a sweater the way I'm wearing it today with matching cream pants cream shoes and just like a beautiful relaxed elegant look I would say I could see this sweater also being worn for like a tennis country club look on top of your tennis dress with your golf wears maybe a skort maybe around your shoulders maybe around your waist I really also see it being big in the active space as a way to dress up your active look that's how I score
1:49Jackie Oshry:that's how jacks sees it sees it everything is available to shop as you're listening to this episode the website is shoptoastmerch.com i know a lot of you guys go to hermes.com because it's
1:58Claudia Oshry:confusing and i get that we're wrong for that yes sorry that our designs and our quality are so
2:04Jackie Oshry:similar to that of the brand hermes that we're so often confused for them the lead time is similar as well the lead time is similar it's custom it's custom it's waitlisted exclusive so we have such an exciting morning with our summer merch launch we also excited i didn't want to delay today's episode but like if you hear alarms going off on my phone throughout the episode like i'm busy while i'm recording this episode it's 9 30 right now nick's sick of tickets because i'm going tonight bitch i don't have tickets but i'm going vivrell dropped off a blue chanel bag they're like we heard you're going to the game here wear this blue chanel bag i'm like that's great do you guys also have tickets i'm going it's tonight 10 a.m what kind of bag blue chanel it's sick i'll I'll show you.
2:43Jackie Oshry:I'll show you. What style bag? It's actually like a square shape. I had never seen it before. I'll show you. It was sick. Are they letting bags in the stadium? Oh, yes. That was just when the president was there. He's not going. Oh, my God. You scared me. So it's 930 right now. 10 a.m. Eastern time. The ticket's gone sale. But I happen to know that at 945 the queue opens. So I have an alarm set for 944. Don't be alarmed in 10 minutes when my alarm goes off. It's just me.
3:07Claudia Oshry:You're the only one who's going to get scared when your alarm goes off.
3:11Jackie Oshry:You're the only one. That's so true. No, but it's like if a siren was going off, I don't want someone who's listening to the podcast thinking that like, you know, this is a dream.
3:18Claudia Oshry:No, you're just letting us know and like, we'll be fine. You are going to have a heart attack. Are you going to be able to handle it?
3:24Jackie Oshry:Do you want to know that I literally had a dream last night about getting tickets? And there was just like kind of an amalgamation of all the things I'm interested in because I was trying to get tickets to the game with Garrett Graham. And like he and I were like looking for tickets and then we got tickets and I saw Margo. Like it was like this. I need the game. I need this series to end. Like it's taking over my life. Margot? No, he was very happy with me. No, because she was with Jesse Solomon. Right, right, right. Our brother. I heard Margot and Jesse Solomon were spotted out. Let's start that rumor.
3:50Jackie Oshry:Maybe it'll be true. Even though we've actually talked about at length, like Margot, and I mean Jackie and I, we've talked at length about Margot and Jesse Solomon. He's not right.
3:59Claudia Oshry:They're not right for each other, no.
4:00Jackie Oshry:Jesse Solomon needs Margot. Like, I think he's a good girl for her, but I don't think that he is the right match. Like, Margot doesn't need him, and I don't think that would be a good guy for her.
4:08Claudia Oshry:I agree and more so like he needs Margot's family you know he needs like everything that camaraderie with dating Margot like siblings and like like people in the spotlight who get it and can like help him stay brother-in-laws yeah but I don't think like romantically it's right yeah it's not gonna work but you never know maybe because we're like saying it won't then it will reverse psychology for sure um so pffb so much to discuss i actually i'm embarking on a journey today a journey a co-journey a co-journa fred co-journa fred a co-journers fred it's just a journey but what's a journey
4:55Jackie Oshry:There's Fred. Jernifred is your new name. Yeah, of course, my government name. Everybody calls me Co-Jerny, but my real name is Co-Jernifred. Everyone knows that.
5:06Claudia Oshry:Everyone's calling you Fred. Co-Jernifred. I love that. No, I actually am going on a journey today, which I'm excited to share with everyone, like when my journey is complete.
5:18Jackie Oshry:Oh, that's annoying. What's the journey?
5:19Claudia Oshry:I'm vlogging, and I'll let you guys know tomorrow.
5:22Jackie Oshry:She's going on a journey. You know my journey. I keep forgetting that that's this week It's today Okay she's going on a Kajirna Fred everybody be cool It's not a big deal It's a real Kajirna Fred And it actually is a big deal
5:36Claudia Oshry:I'm vlogging so I'm really excited And I'll share more then I'm also vlogging by the way I have like four vlogs running right now I always have like four vlogs going in my phone
5:47Jackie Oshry:You're good about that You start vlogs months in advance I start them the day off
5:50Claudia Oshry:I have a vlog that I'm planning to release in October You're kidding that's crazy but you know like i made a couple snags along the way i don't know if it's right right i don't know if it's gonna make it but like i had the idea of something that's happening october i'm like what if i started vlogging now like people would love that everybody loves that everybody does love that so i'm trying and then i have my other vlog for my journey and i just have can't like cross wires yeah yeah i have to make separate folders
6:18Jackie Oshry:stay organized i do i do have separate folders the theme of today's episode is tv recap i watch three hours of tv i'm all caught up i was so fucking like time management life hacking yesterday i took a bath watched the old episode of love island on my computer like i was so like millennial with my computer in the bathtub um and then i watched summer house and then the new episode of love island i'm all caught up i voted for love island i literally downloaded the app i'm sorry that i do feel like i will not so i feel like a lot of these shows have you vote and whatever but the votes don't like dancing with the stars or like american idol it's like the vote plus the judges whatever yeah i feel like love island are tipped i feel like love island is the only show where they actually make decisions based on the numerical value of the votes so i feel like your
7:01Claudia Oshry:vote really matters and i feel like but the problem is is that the love island fan base can't be
7:08Jackie Oshry:trusted so i i really hope actually that everybody learns from last year they're gonna learn the wrong lesson you know what i mean because i voted for it's like who do you want the bombshells to be with that's what the vote was so I voted that I wanted the new bombshell Caleb to be with uh Kenzie yeah soul and sincere obviously and um Jen and Gabriel yes those are the right answers I could
7:31Claudia Oshry:see people thinking that like soul and sincere and Melanie are the Jeremiah Huda and Iris of the situation and I actually think that that was a situation where like we voted well and I putting iris and jeremiah together was iconic and it like yes it was it was iconic it kicked off the season like the jaws on the floor so like i do think that soul and sincere should be coupled up and it was starting to make me feel like if it were up to him he would still couple up with melanie so we need the audience to push him in another direction because melanie and sincere is not it
8:08Jackie Oshry:we'll do a full tv recap we'll try not to let it bleed into the pff but i don't i just want to say
8:12Claudia Oshry:Like I'm committed to the show. I recap it. I watch every day. I'm committed. I will not download that fucking app and give them my email address and vote. That's a bridge too far. But it's your civic duty to vote. Grab a snack. I'm not grabbing a snack. I'm not helping an elderly person. Bring an elderly neighbor. And I'm not making my voice heard outside of my podcast where I talk about it incessantly. But you also, once you have the app. It's sort of like I'm an influential person, but I'm not a citizen. You know, so I can't actually vote. I love that. I don't have voters rights. You're like a felon.
8:43Claudia Oshry:I'm like a felon who it can love Island felon who can participate and weigh in, but I can't actually vote. That's beautiful. But I can, I can share with you guys my thoughts and if you want to vote, you know, having been influenced by my personal Love Island politics, feel free, but I can't vote.
9:01Jackie Oshry:Okay. Well, maybe you shouldn't have robbed that bank. We also have summer house part three finale reunion, which we will talk about as well. So lots of TV, just four minutes until my alarm. I don't want to alarm anyone. You need to alarm yourself. I know. I'm just like so paranoid. They've just been dropping. Like seriously, fuck Ticketmaster. This is worse than the Errors Tour, I will say. I'm sure. Because with the Errors Tour, there was at least some rhyme or reason. They dropped tickets to today's game three times yesterday without telling anyone. Like in the middle of the day, it was like 541.
9:32Jackie Oshry:I saw him like, how the fuck did people know that? And there were still 500 ,000 people in the queue. I also joined the queue and then Ben joined the queue and Ben was somehow ahead of me. It's so fucking rigged. I'm pissed. This is worse than the Aeros tour. And at least when you got to the Aeros tour, if you were able to get face value tickets, they were somewhat reasonable. Like the most expensive ticket was like maybe one or$2 ,000 less. Like once you actually, you're begging for the privilege of getting a face value ticket for$6 ,000. And where would$6 ,000 put you sitting where? For one seat?
10:00Jackie Oshry:Yeah. $6 ,000 for one seat will put you high. It'll put you in the face value. Face value. in the 100s maybe not center maybe corner okay yeah that sounds like fair yeah but i have like
10:15Claudia Oshry:i think everyone's paying 50 grand so you can't go by me i think people pretty much are paying 50 grand no i saw a video no i saw a video too and they were like going around being like how much did you pay for your ticket and the most someone had paid was 20 000 and she had like an
10:27Jackie Oshry:amazing seat oh my god i saw people who paid 200 000 for two tickets oh in the video i saw the what like everybody was like 6 ,000 7 ,500 one girl paid 20 ,000 in an amazing seat well i also want to say i feel as though i will be rewarded because like ticketmaster like it glitches sometimes so they offered me this morning i checked and there were two seats available where i didn't want face value seats where i didn't want to sit so i didn't i did not buy them although like a smarter person would have bought them and then resold them sold them and use the earnings for your big seat but like that's what's wrong like people are buying and selling I wouldn't want to take that somebody else bought them they're gone already and they got face value seats for where they actually wanted to sit like I'm sorry I'm low-key like a socialist I was gonna say you're in the right city yeah amen to that comrade yeah comrade Koji I could have I could have but also who wants the job of like selling tickets now what
11:22Claudia Oshry:am I a broker yeah that's true but they would fly like this is the time to sell a ticket do you think I made a mistake I sort of do you could have earned something could have put it towards the next seat could have worked your way up them could have worked your way up but no to everyone according to their need right 100 % right Queenie yeah 30 marks right comrade Koji I just feel like it's wrong I do I feel like it's wrong yeah but there's no we're at where we're at there's no right way to do like it no one's ever gonna everyone be happy like it no so somebody else got those two tickets just a hot ticket so somebody else got those shit tickets for uh
12:00Jackie Oshry:three thousand each and i passed on where were they on a barstool in the high up two hundreds like i actually would rather oh they keep oh that was the barstool that you were offered no the first barstool i was offered was in the three hundreds like the final final row it was one ticket and it was two thousand dollars yeah two thousand that's pretty good yeah i know for one ticket but you could have sold yeah i'm gonna send ben alone
12:24Claudia Oshry:You could have sold it.
12:25Jackie Oshry:Maybe make$4 ,000, put it towards, you know? Yeah, sorry. I'm not like, I'm not swindling. I'm just trying to get like my husband the night of his life. Okay, well, pay up. I am prepared to like not be cardboard. I felt like I got a lot of encouragement from the comments yesterday. People are like, well, this is the precise reason that you are cardboard so that you can splurge.
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12:45Claudia Oshry:That's true. Go comments. Yes, I feel the comments are very encouraging. You know what? I think I didn't read the comment section yesterday. I usually do, but I just got busy. and like you're telling me all these things that happen in the comments.
12:55Jackie Oshry:Oh, my alarm, my alarm. Are you okay? Okay. But like they're not here yet, so. Oh, wait. What the fuck? Like there's no rhyme or reason. This shit's pissing me the fuck off. Maybe you're like not meant cut out for this. I'm certainly not cut out to be a sports fan, let alone a ticket broker.
13:13Claudia Oshry:I think you should just throw money at the problem.
13:17Jackie Oshry:I'm trying to. But on StubHub. Okay, StubHub is for suckers. Yeah, by the way, I will have to go resale. this is kind of my last chance at this particular job i will go resale if all else fails they're not
13:31Claudia Oshry:up yet yeah but you guys have to go and honestly like maybe you have to go in the two or three hundreds like really yeah if that's what you have such bad eyesight i'm so short like i won't be able to see anything it's about the feeling that's true you know you're not really unless you're sitting courtside like seriously what are you seeing you're gonna be looking that's actually
13:48Jackie Oshry:so true.
13:49Claudia Oshry:So it's about like experiencing it. This moment in history.
13:52Jackie Oshry:But you'll have to talk to Ben. Ben's like a seat snob for this. So he doesn't want to just be in the building.
13:56Claudia Oshry:So you'd rather not go. You'd rather not go. And who even knows if there'll be another game at MSG. At the Garden. Right. Ever in your life. Oh my god. Yeah you're right. And you'd rather not go because you're a seat snob. Well why don't you open the
14:10Jackie Oshry:goddamn waiting room? This is so fucking disgusting. I can't deal with these people. okay like can we do the show or no yeah like we can like honestly it would be great if like you could sort of do the ads i know i was thinking that but like i don't have them loaded on my
14:26Claudia Oshry:ipad i just need to get into the fucking waiting room um okay give me one minute one minute okay
14:35Jackie Oshry:like why don't you tell me about what you made for dinner last night oh i went over to olivia
14:39Claudia Oshry:she made a little greek feast you know she loves greek if you guys ever are trying to like flatter Olivia. We gotta take her to Greece. We should take her to Greece. She would fucking sister's trip to Greece? Oh my god, we're so sisterhood of the traveling pants. Totally. That would be so cute.
14:56Jackie Oshry:America Ferreira.
14:58Claudia Oshry:Is there like a little Greece
15:00Jackie Oshry:we could go to in New York? Sardinia. Oh, you mean like Lower East Side? Definitely. Can we go to Little Greece? We can go to Avra. Our favorite Greek restaurant.
15:10Claudia Oshry:Obviously that's all she wants really is to go to like avra or a greek restaurant what's on milos right right so good so that's what we had for dinner and this morning i got her starter and i'm re-embarking on my starter journey i don't know why like i'm it just doesn't feel the same even though that starter like is one of my own it's my next of kin but it's just it doesn't feel the same no it does not but but we'll see i think once i start feeding it like my way it'll start to feel more like mine but that's just been a devastation i did it my way did you get in the waiting room no oh you said you'll do it my way oh yeah yeah you just sounded like you had a triumph no these people are fucking disgusting like a couple of
16:00Jackie Oshry:days ago the waiting room opened at 9 45 yesterday opened at 9 46 it's now 9 47 open the fuck up oh wow wow wow wow i'm gonna get flagged i also got banned from ticketmaster for 24 hours the other day because i was refreshing a lot they thought i was like a bot or a scammer meanwhile i'm just like a swirly who's trying to help her husband but all these bots and scammers actually do get tickets right right i think it's like one of those things and also i just sort of want to
16:24Claudia Oshry:like talk about summer house um it's no no like so we have to do the ads but i think it's one of those things it's like if you don't like when you're not least expecting it it'll happen so like maybe you should start the ads but that's how i get to the end where the queue of is up 500 000 people well you know what you do your queue i'm gonna get into the ads and then we'll get into the story sound good turtle loo hi hi captain cojourna fred i'm not here you without further ado that do it is time for the fast five stories that you do need to know today's episode of the toast is brought to you by Vivrell.
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22:39Jackie Oshry:Turdy how's it going over there I got kicked out of Ticketmaster again for being like permanently for being a bot I was refreshing so much and probably just as the tickets are going on sale
22:48Claudia Oshry:well hopefully Ben's having more luck over where he is
22:54Jackie Oshry:seriously fuck you fucking cocksuckers at Ticketmaster you guys are disgusting fucking criminals criminals how am I fucking banned already oh my god I can't believe it I can't like literally as like in maybe Ben is in he's like not taking it as seriously as I am maybe um take a drink I can't believe it I didn't get that I got kicked out well maybe the person at
23:18Claudia Oshry:Ticketmaster is a toaster and really wants to hear our summer house thoughts and so they said I know I know I want to hear my thing now I'm just upset it's okay it will happen you're gonna go you're going you guys let's start a go fund me for turdys tickets and let's get our courtside seats
23:32Jackie Oshry:No, I just, I want to choke the person at fucking Ticketmaster. Like, seriously, fuck you guys. Fucking disgusting idiots. Like, asshole cocksuckers. Oh my God, I'm so fucking pissed.
23:44Claudia Oshry:Deep breaths, Jernifred. Freddy?
23:49Jackie Oshry:I can't believe I got kicked out.
23:51Claudia Oshry:Are you there, Freddy?
23:53Jackie Oshry:It's me, Kojernir.
23:59Claudia Oshry:Let's get into the stories. Our first story is Summer House Reunion Part 3. bombshells recap beta blockers monogamy uh part three of summer house reunion aired and how did it make you feel jernifred it i feel like i definitely echoed a lot of the sentiments that
24:16Jackie Oshry:lindsey was saying i feel like we got no clarity the timeline is more confusing than ever they don't know when they hooked up nobody knows like and also i feel like their lack of emotion was like on display even more in this part and this was the part that focused so heavily on them and their big mistake um it was really just it's odd behavior and i have to give andy credit i feel like he really did a great job at the reunion he asked all the questions he didn't pile on he was like trying to hold them accountable while also remaining somewhat neutral i feel like he did a really good job but with these two like sort of crazy people there was never going to be any sort of resolution like even when she says she's sorry which she's she's like i can't say sorry enough times i'm like well you could try she literally give a start she she she barely says sorry and when she does it just like is so not believable like i don't think she's sorry like defensiveness and i'd almost rather hear her say get i'm not sorry i'd rather hear her say get over him it was
25:12Claudia Oshry:two years ago it was six months he doesn't like you like get over it like i this is gonna be my future yeah i'd rather her be a bitch and say that then be like well i'm sorry okay i said i'm sorry
25:25Jackie Oshry:Yeah, she's giving nothing. And Andy even asking Wes, because he also, like, when Jesse was crying, like, it was just kind of heartbreaking. And he felt so unmoved by it. I mean, Jesse was crying the entire day. But when they finally asked Jesse why he was crying, and Jesse started crying to Wes, he was so unmoved by it, Wes. He was so unemotional. Like, that's your best friend. That's your brother. And Andy was like, are you medicated? Like, did you take a beta blocker? And I honestly felt like he was, like, so upset that Andy asked that question. because like he obviously they both were obviously like heavily medicated but we know amanda like who's been open about the fact that she does take medication it was like they just didn't really care about the reunion they didn't care about talking to everyone they just wanted to get through it so
26:07Claudia Oshry:they medicated themselves and just did it yeah also people are now being like beta blockers don't you know stymie your emotions justice for beta blockers and it's like maybe he didn't ask if there anything else as well you know like a xanax uh a weed and like he could be on beta blockers
26:24Jackie Oshry:and something else you know what i mean like they're obviously on a lovely little cocktail especially her especially her yeah but see like amanda did cry like once or twice when everyone was being mean to her and then when her and kyle were hugging they like cried so you are able to emote but I also think like West doesn't care like he is a crazy person yeah I was glad for
26:49Claudia Oshry:this part of the reunion because I feel like they finally got to the questions that I was really curious about like first of all I thought Kyle when he said like this girl has been in relationship for 10 years like she's in the most vulnerable state you take her out you say you're going to show her the streets and like you've completely isolated her at like such a vulnerable place in her life like I thought that was like very well said and so true like yeah but it takes
27:14Jackie Oshry:a lot of the accountability off of Amanda like she has no agency in her life and she's just this sort of woman who gets taken for rides by men which like she is maybe she yeah and like he but she's also like a 35 year old woman who can make her own decisions yeah but like she maybe she is
27:29Claudia Oshry:this weak sister and he knows that he knows who she is and so the person who came in to be there for her also wound up being the one to like take her away from her friends and tarnish her name like I felt like it was a good point it just puts like a lot of pressure on their relationship to work and I felt like we were finally getting at that which it's like why did you risk it all are you in love and we didn't get there no no no but the questions were asked and like how could you betray Sierra and like just to take it one step further it's like do you like West more than you liked Sierra because that's what it is when you're choosing between pursuing West or keeping your friendship you've chosen to pursue West because you like him more than your friendship with Sierra like that's more important to you I don't even think she likes him more than like I
28:16Jackie Oshry:just think she's just like in like riding an impulse and giving into every sort of feeling that she has maybe that's like her post-divorce liberation like you know I'm just gonna like yeah jump off a cliff yeah anyways I felt like the questions were asked and it felt less
28:35Claudia Oshry:frustrating of like how this could possibly happen what was going through your mind um even if their answers fell short which of course they did multiple times um they did seem to they talked about all these conversations that they've had and they're starting to seem like they've gotten to a place where like they've had a conversation that like if we're going to give this a shot like Like if we're doing all this, like we're giving it a real shot. Like this is something serious. Then they also dropped a trailer for like a bonus episode next week where there's a couple of conversations. West and Kyle, Amanda and Lindsay, Sierra and Mija.
29:08Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I feel like if any of it was like that groundbreaking or important, it wouldn't be relegated to some sort of like bonus episode.
29:14Claudia Oshry:It sounds like Kyle has a conversation with West and asks him like, are you in love with her? And West not only says yes, but says, I've been in love with her for a very long time. Like, thank you. Well, that's worth risking it all for. Yes, throwing your life away for.
29:31Jackie Oshry:You know? Yeah, I do know. And throughout the episode, they're like poking holes in their relationship, right? Through Miha and the lying, and Amanda's like, you've given me a lot to think about. But we know now, like the two are still, you know, going strong in a relationship. They're traveling together. They went to a family wedding together. She spat in his mouth, like the whole thing. even though I'm pretty sure they were like smoking pot and like you know that thing when you blow in someone's mouth like that's just what I thought it was because she like smokes pot she's a cool girl like that so none of it penetrated and maybe they did have these conversations and I know that they're pushing Miha so hard and I think maybe there are people who are eating it up I am not people although like the more we talk about it like he had a girlfriend the entire summer and lied about it like he's just a really big liar
30:21Claudia Oshry:yeah but and here's what is unclear to me so when he says like miha thought we were exclusive that she was was that why did she think that like was that were you guys exclusive and then you stepped out on her or like she just had this belief and you had actually never had that conversation
30:39Jackie Oshry:did she think you were exclusive because you told her that right or like she just assumed you're
30:43Claudia Oshry:exclusive because like you're together all the time so like you sort of fall into a relationship But like, I'm sorry, if you're together 10 months and you never actually said, like confirmed that you're exclusive, I don't believe how you don't have that conversation one time. Yeah, the Miha stuff for me, especially because it's like when he met Miha, Amanda was married. He obviously chose Miha for a while. And then as Amanda starts to, you know, become available, he started throwing Miha to the side. Like, yeah, that doesn't really complicate Amanda and West for me. West's relationship. It just shows like what a piece of shit West is, which we know that up until March 1st, or no, sorry, April 1st, 2026, West Wilson did not want to have a relationship.
31:26Claudia Oshry:He never, you know, he dragged girls around and led them on. We know that. But what they're saying is, as of the statement, things have changed. So the Mija thing doesn't change their story, really. She's like, it got a little messy when there was crossover, but I don't know. It's like Dino, you know?
31:46Jackie Oshry:It's like Dino. It's like Dino and Liz.
31:48Claudia Oshry:I just don't care about the storyline that's not on my show.
31:52Jackie Oshry:Yeah, no, I am aligned. And I feel like when they went into the reunion, they were so obsessed with the timeline. And we still don't know the timeline fully, but I think they wanted to clear their names in terms of like having had an affair. And I just want to say like, after all is said and done, I do not believe that they had any sort of inappropriate relationship, but what they were trying to decipher between was like them having a physical connection and an emotional connection. And it's like, well, yeah, they had an emotional connection because you all have fucking weird relationships with one another.
32:25Jackie Oshry:So like, yeah, now it's weird, but it wasn't before because you guys all do this.
32:29Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And I'm glad that like, everyone seems to come to the same page as that. Like Lindsay was saying, we don't think you guys were like having sex over the summer, even though they all think that like things were happening over the summer, but right. It was definitely an emotional affair. But yeah, it's harder to prove it's subjective. But like when was the first time they really like looked at each other and like.
32:48Jackie Oshry:So they said it was like when they were out, like sometime in March or whatever. In 2026. Yeah, when he looked at her and was like, am I crazy or like are we like in love?
32:56Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but like is he saying that after months of like of knowing between them? Do you know what I mean? Of it going unsaid?
33:04Jackie Oshry:Well, I just want to say months of it going unsaid like is fine. Like, you didn't say it. Like, you're not acting on it. Like, that doesn't count.
33:12Claudia Oshry:You're not acting on it, but you're continuing to be with this, go out with this person. You're not fighting it. You're not fighting it. Right, right, right. You think that makes you, like, good because you're not acting on it, but you're actually, like, you're feeding it.
33:23Jackie Oshry:Yeah.
33:23Claudia Oshry:You're not walking away. These things are impossible to prove, and I feel like that's where we landed. Right. That's where we landed, and so I think they are sort of absolved of, like, not having had any sort of, like, physical affair over the summer. I think that would be psychotic. but and now when he says to Kyle in the next episode I've been in love with her for a long time like are we talking years? Years. Or maybe it's like you've always loved this person but never even thought of her in that way because she was married.
33:49Jackie Oshry:And now that you have thought about her in that way you realize it was like that the whole time. Yeah.
33:53Claudia Oshry:Now you can see her in that light. Like I don't know. I mean they made it through. That was their goal. They made it through. They did the job. I understand completely numbing yourself with medication because the amount of the barrage of what they are about to receive on the reunion stage it's it's a lot I know they're bad people crazy people who don't care about their friends feelings but like that's a very an experience that most human beings don't have because if you betrayed your best friend you yell at each other you get to hide you yell at each other and then you never speak again you don't sit on a stage for 12 hours hearing all this horrible stuff about yourself with the world watching.
34:33Claudia Oshry:It's not a human experience. So if they want to numb themselves, I honestly can't blame them. Especially for a girl who's weak and has mental health issues.
34:42Jackie Oshry:What? Where do we go from here? Casting wise, like for real, they're both out?
34:48Claudia Oshry:Personally, and I'm always wrong because I've put Lexi on last season. So obviously whatever I say isn't going to happen. I think Ciara moves on because she's moved on. Like not because she should be punished for Weston Man in any way, but like, I think she's beyond the show now. I think Wes and Amanda are the storyline. They just are.
35:11Jackie Oshry:I kind of agree. Like, they're crazy, and crazy is interesting. Wes and Jesse building back any sort of friendship.
35:17Claudia Oshry:Have a lot of work to do. There's a lot that can happen here. Kyle, that's really up to him if he wants to come back. I don't know if he has a place. Oh, my God.
35:24Jackie Oshry:You're going to have to take this house from the cold, dead hands. Yeah.
35:27Claudia Oshry:Lindsay, I think, will be in the same place that she's been. But like I think that narratively wise like shifting to focus on like Amanda and Wes like because even if they stay together it's crazy. If they break up it's crazy. Like that's where the story is.
35:41Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I feel like the audience hates them so much. Like people are saying like no we don't want them. No cancel. Bring Sierra back. But like I kind of want to see what those two crazy fucks are going to get into.
35:53Claudia Oshry:Yeah.
35:54Jackie Oshry:Although I don't know if they want to. I could see Amanda like being done.
35:57Claudia Oshry:but people say she was with Kyle for so long and put up with all his shit because you wanted to be on TV and so you're gonna give up now when you're the biggest name in the world but you're
36:04Jackie Oshry:like the most hated name in the world I don't know if people want that there's only one place to go
36:11Claudia Oshry:up also but Sierra leaving like doesn't make sense for Mia and I think Mia should be back but I like Sierra and Mia being together but that's really her last sort of connection to
36:21Jackie Oshry:the house no but Mia can can stand on her own I think yeah but it was just it was fun having
36:25Claudia Oshry:them together. You can stand on her own, but I'm just like, oh, Sierra brought me into the house and now she's leaving. If she's leaving. I feel like, I don't know. I'll be curious to see what they do, but I do feel like they're not all going to be together. Sierra is not going to be in a house with them. And I don't really see the show moving on from Kyle and I mean, Amanda and West and Kyle, even everyone, you know, that's the story. That's the meat.
36:49Jackie Oshry:Perhaps an Amanda and West spinoff, Crazy in the City, in the City, crazy edition. Yeah.
36:54Claudia Oshry:Or it's just on in the city because in the city is her show. Yeah.
36:59Jackie Oshry:Yeah. And they're a couple now and it's a show for couples. Yeah.
37:02Claudia Oshry:Or it's just both. I just keep putting out episodes. I actually like the bonus episode idea. Like I want more. Yeah, I do. I want more. Yeah.
37:10Jackie Oshry:Yeah. And they're like, they're, it's very much giving like when Vanderpump Rules had this new gen, but the new gen was bad and like the new gen here is good, but they have to figure out like who goes where and what goes where.
37:20Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but it's like watching Wes and Amanda like talk about them being in love and like their relationship. It's just like so foreign and crazy to me. Like I still have not had enough of it.
37:31Jackie Oshry:No, and because they were so withdrawn and like so unemotional, they were also unemotional when talking about each other. And they even like Wes was like saying nice things. It felt like weird and cold because he was very withdrawn.
37:43Claudia Oshry:Yeah, like seeing them walk into the reunion together. It's just like, you know, was a crazy thing to see. So like I'm still wanting to see this crazy thing that's happening.
37:52Jackie Oshry:Yeah.
37:52Claudia Oshry:It's like an attraction. It's like a circus. It is. A train wreck. It is. You can't look away. Yeah. And so I'm still participating.
38:06Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I know that's like not the thing to say because everybody's like cancel that. May they live and die. But you know what? Like I kind of want to see what those crazy kids get into.
38:15Claudia Oshry:I'm sorry. Like they did their jobs. like they were horrible people and friends and husbands and wives and boyfriends of course they were great workers it's true they gave them a life give them a promotion they gave life to the show
38:28Jackie Oshry:they did but i do think that the the uh network like often sides with the audience and like the audience hates them everyone's like cancel them off my screens so i feel like they're just not
38:38Claudia Oshry:going to be invited back okay i'll leave it to them but i'm just saying they're the experts they did their jobs yep you do yours like really how could the network be mad at them they should be sending them flowers and saying thank you and giving them a raise it's the same with scandaval
38:57Jackie Oshry:that show was like seriously in the gutter people forget but it was like minutes for every time like in the most recent seasons before that it was like is this show still on it was so dire and even scandaval which was immensely helpful only gave them like one or two more seasons
39:14Claudia Oshry:but it wasn't summer house wasn't even dire but things were about to change you know they're all crying they're leaving everyone knows like most people aren't coming back in the city's happening and now house is being sold yeah and now we've just like breathed new life into it but also like with banner pump rules it was like the seniors graduated and we hadn't even met the freshmen yet so it was like there wasn't a connector it was so much change also like they actually did
39:36Jackie Oshry:a very good job of blending in this new young generation of people jesse and dara west and
39:41Claudia Oshry:And we know them and we're sticking with them because we're invested already. So whether or not Kyle and Lindsay are there, like we're still watching the show. So this has been done much better. Yeah. And I don't think it's the same. And Amanda and West are the old and the new guard.
39:57Jackie Oshry:Yes, they are.
39:58Claudia Oshry:So it's so. They could go on either show. I think I should have said this at the reunion. I think what you all mean to say is thank you. Thank you. They owe her a thank you.
40:09Jackie Oshry:Yeah. this also has cemented summer house which was always like one of the smaller younger shows of bravo it has cemented it as like one of the greats now i imagine i imagine it has higher ratings than most of the other shows yeah they're talking about it on red carpets like everyone's being asked are you team manda like it's a thing now is that even a question are you team no yeah they're not asking that they're asking like are you watching summer house yeah yeah so
40:36Claudia Oshry:we'll see you next week for the bonus Jonas. Oh right. Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Taylor Swift surprises fans at the premiere of Toy Story 5 with a performance of her new song and a bonus duet. So Taylor showed up at the LA premiere of Toy Story 5. She performed I Knew It, I Knew You accompanied herself with the piano and then she also sang You've Got a Friend in Me. with Randy Newman and they did a little duet it was like seriously so fucking cute first of all
41:11Jackie Oshry:she looked insane like you know she's doing Soto Method arms like she's doing those bridal arms her arms looked so toned like she's just so wedding ready because you know she's like getting married it could be any day now but allegedly July 3rd she looked insane I love this sort of like family friendly brand safe era you know toy story I am curious if Chet Hanks came with Tom because I just like I know that if he did like they would have met and really gotten along because he plays like basically a Travis Kelsey version on that show.
41:39Claudia Oshry:Was Travis there?
41:40Jackie Oshry:No she went with her mom and her brother.
41:41Claudia Oshry:Oh Travis should have been there to support her.
41:43Jackie Oshry:And you know I've been on Ticketmaster like all morning and I was like scrolling looking for the thing and it said might be interesting. I think New Heights is like going on tour like doing live shows. Oh yeah they're
41:54Claudia Oshry:doing a live show like next week and that's why people are like they're not getting married then because they're not getting married June 13th because there's a live show.
42:01Jackie Oshry:Okay, that like is a good reason not to get married.
42:05Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I also feel like she wore two dresses. She wore a red carpet dress and then she wore the yellow dress for her performance. And I feel like probably even unintentionally that these are maybe like teasers of what her bridal look will be like. Because I do find when you are in your bridal era, like you are gravitating towards a certain silhouette. And so even her red carpet dress with the off the shoulder, like I would not be surprised if something about this is what her bridal look will be.
42:30Jackie Oshry:Yeah, and I think that often her wardrobe is like indicative of whatever era is coming next. And I think that all of her outfits have been like very bridal, very soft, very feminine, like very Hill House almost. And if that's the aesthetic for era number 107, wherever we're at, love that.
42:47Claudia Oshry:Yeah, she looks insanely beautiful. And I do think like the next album, if we're thinking about like the seasons that she's in and how they like reflect her life, like her next album is the Love album.
42:56Jackie Oshry:it's lover that's what lover was supposed to be yeah but like no but lover like this is like just like love songs you know lover is like i guess she turned it into like this like girly pop whatever
43:07Claudia Oshry:but like this would be like the the love songs album yeah yeah um that's very thrilling like
43:16Jackie Oshry:i also think it could be like her sort of like settling down album i hope right well this has
43:23Claudia Oshry:is the settling down happening yet or it's just like you know the romance and the got a couple kids got the whole block looking like yeah but that's the wish list like are we checking and
43:35Jackie Oshry:now it's time like to yeah to check them she's making a list and checking it twice to have travis kelsey's babies to take the kelsey's down down absolutely so i think i loved this outing
43:46Claudia Oshry:for taylor i think that skips over like just this one era of just like being in her feminine of like being in love. Right, right. You're in love.
43:55Jackie Oshry:True love. Oh, love. You're in love. You can hear it in the silence. I loved this little outing for Taylor. It was so fun. Like, so just like to perform with Randy Newman. You just remember what your old pal said. Like, I just fucking love this whole thing. And I love the song for Toy Story. I've been listening to it a lot.
44:16Claudia Oshry:Yeah, I just want to say thank you to Taylor and the whole Toy Story team because it has been successfully implemented. Everyone's so excited about the Jessie song, Toy Story 5, that, you know, I had to explain, comes out in a few weeks. It's not out yet. That's, like, a little confusing, but it's fine. That is confusing. You know, it's like, wait, what are we looking at? Like, there's a 5. Where's the movie? Yeah. What's Jessie talking about? But I'm just, like, in a couple weeks. Yeah. And we are successfully listening to Taylor Swift in the car because it is car-related to Toy Story. So thank you so much to everyone involved.
44:46Jackie Oshry:Also, Taylor brought a VHS copy. It must be like her original home version of the Toy Story original movie. And she had all like the original castmates like Tom Hanks, Tim Allen sign it, which I know she doesn't need the money, but she could sell that for a pretty penny.
45:00Claudia Oshry:And who plays Jessie? Joan Cusack?
45:02Jackie Oshry:I don't know, because I saw Joan Cusack there with Taylor and I said, oh, she's in Toy Story. Yes, she is Jessie. Cute. I feel like at the time it's I feel it's similar to Shrek. that like if you were a celebrity and there was like this new disney cartoon movie and they asked you to do the voice maybe some people passed on it maybe some people didn't you had no idea that this was going to be like the thing that retires you it's now on their fifth movie i think like everybody who's involved in toy story is like a multi multi-millionaire many times over because of it and i just there's probably someone who passed on it who was like i don't want to do this like kids movie meanwhile 100 million dollars it's like shrek everybody from from Shrek retired.
45:45Jackie Oshry:Cameron Diaz,$100 million here,$200 million there.
45:47Claudia Oshry:I'm sure there's like a lot of that. Think of like Frozen too. Like Frozen is one of them. Why does she still work so hard?
45:53Jackie Oshry:A thousand percent. Josh Gad is wealthy. Like he is personally wealthy.
45:57Claudia Oshry:Yeah, Idina Menzel. Like that was seriously the biggest movie of all time.
46:01Jackie Oshry:And there are lots of Disney movies that are super popular, but they aren't like these enormous franchises where like there's theme parks. No, no, no.
46:07Claudia Oshry:Yeah, all of them are very popular. They're sort of like a flash in the pan. It's always going to be a good payday, but there were a couple that just -
46:13Jackie Oshry:Carried franchises.
46:15Claudia Oshry:Billion dollars.
46:16Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Billions. And I think the most recent one is probably Frozen.
46:19Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. Frozen was a cultural reset.
46:23Jackie Oshry:Frozen was a cultural reset. Yeah.
46:27Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our next story? What number? Great question. Three. Number three. Yeah, I'm ready. Number three. Joshua Bassett is on Carl Radke's podcast talking about his past drug addiction.
46:39Jackie Oshry:A sentence I seriously never thought I'd hear.
46:41Claudia Oshry:Yeah. from multiple angles but Joshua Bassett says fame came with the dark side he never saw coming revealing his substance abuse spiraled so badly at one point he believes he shouldn't have survived it so he joined the more life with Carl Radke podcast and got brutally honest about a chapter of his life that was happening behind the scenes while his career was taking off he says things reached a breaking point when he was 23 admitting it should have killed me the level of substance um he doesn't stop there he goes on to detail just how consumed he was by drugs describing a daily routine that revolved around getting his next fix and shutting him off from the outside world how he would like wake up at 2 30 and go to the atm because his drug dealer started work at three would take out as much money from the atm as he could spent all of that like his daily limit spent all of it with the drug dealer at three o 'clock cocaine everything used it all until he fell asleep slept till 255 the next day went to the atm drug dealer again and again again yeah
47:37Jackie Oshry:You know what? I feel like Carl Radke having this podcast, which I think it's like very slowly becoming at first. It was like different reality stars and influencers, more Summer House. But like him veering into a space where like celebrities or well-known people talk about like addiction and substance abuse. I actually think it's like a very niche podcast that doesn't exist. And he's probably a really good person to do it. I think it would be good for Softbar. So I like this journey for him and his podcast. I had no idea Joshua Bassett struggled like that. Did he say when this was?
48:05Claudia Oshry:When he was 23. When he was like coming up in his career. So that must have been like.
48:11Jackie Oshry:Like post driver's license. Two years ago. So post driver's license. So yeah.
48:16Claudia Oshry:Yeah.
48:17Jackie Oshry:Damn.
48:18Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Really sad. No Carl's. Carl has a really good team behind him. Like not just. Not just like he has a great podcast. But like his branding. His like brand. The car brand is like very on point. The visuals and the messaging around the podcast is very legitimate. legitimate you know a lot of people have a podcast and it's like just random um but everything with him feels very intentional he has like a very good branding I agree no everything he does also feels
48:48Jackie Oshry:elevated right like it's like his legit and I also am happy to say I feel like Carl has also proved a lot of his detractors wrong myself included like I thought Softbar was stupid I thought he was like a like a not a smart like good person um and I I'm I feel as though I was wrong
49:05Claudia Oshry:yeah I think it's like the person that he wanted to be at that time though like doing a soft bar and you know just a soft man like in general like it's still even though he accomplished the things that like Lindsay thought he wouldn't accomplish Lindsay didn't want to be with that person do you
49:18Jackie Oshry:know what I mean yeah yeah and I definitely like saw him through Lindsay's eyes and I think at the time like she thought poorly of him yeah as like a partner and a business person and just like a
49:28Claudia Oshry:she's looking for more alpha yeah but even when she sees all of his success now I don't think any of it makes her feel like oh he did do it and I should be with him I think no if you always wanted to be this person you were never the right person for me and I don't think he would have been able
49:43Jackie Oshry:to have become this person if she hadn't sort of lit a fire under him to really prove her wrong yeah yeah I agree so I didn't see this like becoming his stickarini but I like it yeah it's
49:56Claudia Oshry:just so crazy I didn't watch the early seasons of summer house but like even when you watch clips or they show stuff of Carl like from back in the day like that he's a completely different person and such a testament to the fact that like people can change a hundred percent he was like this real
50:11Jackie Oshry:douche lord asshole he used to hook up with every girl in the house he hooked up with page yeah and now he's just like this big soft friend to all he's mr softy oh you know what got me thinking going back to taylor swift performing with randy newman you've got a friend in me really reminds me of her song it's nice to have a friend they should have done some sort of mashup oh cute like they sound similar obviously like the messaging is the same yeah i think they were
50:40Claudia Oshry:standing like staying on message it wasn't becoming the iris tour mashup secret song yeah
50:45Jackie Oshry:no secret song um and i'm sure like he's like an older gentleman he just like wanted to remember
50:50Claudia Oshry:the words to his own song yeah and he did a great job it was very cute they were like bantering
50:54Jackie Oshry:Slay Randy.
50:55Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our next story?
50:57Jackie Oshry:I am.
50:58Claudia Oshry:Katy Perry calls Justin Trudeau the love of her life and says she feels anchored by their romance. I'm really ready to talk about this. She was at the Tribeca Film Festival for the premiere of her concert film, Katy Perry, The Lifetime's Tour, Live from Paris. And she spoke about her relationship with the former prime minister.
51:16Jackie Oshry:Now, I just want to say, like not to make this about me, when I was driving home from watching the Nick game, there was like a line of people waiting outside on the West Side Highway. and there was like a marquee that said Katy Perry, the lifetime story. I was like, what the fuck is going on? I had no idea it was even Tribeca film festival. And I certainly didn't know that she had a movie coming out. Although her track record for celebrity documentaries is one for one. She makes her part of me, part-time documentary, part-time music video. It's one of the greatest pieces of media in modern times.
51:41Claudia Oshry:Yes, but this is live from Paris. So I feel like it's mostly the show. And less like a documentary, but this is what she said. She said, I feel like a more grounded person in so many aspects of my life. I am very in love. And actually that show was after I met the love of my life. And so I felt very anchored by that because I'm a little bit like a rainbow kite. I fly super high and touch the veil cosmos. And sometimes I need to be anchored. So to have that anchor finally makes me feel really whole now.
52:11Jackie Oshry:Okay. I'm ready to talk about this because obviously an unlikely pairing, right? And I think once the shock wore off, like I'm able to seriously like think about it and talk about it, critically and i just have to say like i ship so unbelievably hard i feel like he made like this relationship is so bizarre because like they're like two kind of polarizing figures right like he's a prime minister what's more polarizing than that and she is like this freaky deaky pop star who went to space and like everybody can't seem to stop hating on and i feel as though this relationship has neutralized both of their public personas
52:42Claudia Oshry:Two negatives make a positive.
52:44Jackie Oshry:1 ,000%. Like, I ship so hard. They look so happy. And it's just like kind of a sleigh. She was with Orlando Bloom. It's hard to, you know, date after that. Like, it's Orlando Bloom. And to go a completely different route and go with like a former prime minister, it's a very elite choice. And I have a lot of respect for Katy Perry now. I just want to say I think that this is going to be huge for her.
53:06Claudia Oshry:Yeah. I think that now that the dust has settled and like they're in as in love as they've ever been, they actually remind me a little bit. Let me think.
53:14Jackie Oshry:Let me think. Taylor and Travis.
53:17Claudia Oshry:No. Give me a clue. Um, two people who we've come, like probably the biggest ship in the sea. I don't know if you're going to get it.
53:29Jackie Oshry:Lewis Hamilton and Kim Kardashian. No,
53:31Claudia Oshry:I'll just say Jeff and Lauren Bezos Sanchez.
53:35Jackie Oshry:It's an amazing comparison.
53:38Claudia Oshry:um together forever like a really an inspiring age appropriate age appropriate love story um cross genre like politics business he lifts her up she lifts him up i also think they run in a similar circle as lauren and jeff maybe that's why you yeah i love this like first lady of canada
53:58Jackie Oshry:he needs to run for prime minister again that's what i mean that would be the only thing to like make it cooler if he was like still employed no no because you want to know why like when you're an active politician like you're very criticized because politics can be so divisive take this to
54:11Claudia Oshry:the next level like she's in her first lady era like she has to you know it would just be like a movie you know now they're just like a bunch of kids running around i disagree i disagree i think
54:20Jackie Oshry:it makes it like more criticized like she doesn't need anything that's divisive like she's been sort of this lightning rod for a couple of years she just needs like everyone once you're done being like the president or the prime minister you sort of fade into like this like bubble retirement I remember nobody criticizes you anymore. Everybody loves you. Remember Ellen and George Bush? It's good to be a retired politician. It's hard to be an active politician.
54:42Claudia Oshry:Oh, they're definitely having more fun in this capacity, but it just would have been so high stakes if he were still.
54:47Jackie Oshry:Yeah, but I'm talking about Q score-wise, I think it's better that he's not because they've both suffered.
54:51Claudia Oshry:They should hang out with Harry and Meghan too, like former diplomat.
54:55Jackie Oshry:Yes. They have Canadian connections, those two. Struggling with the Q score, but in love. Yeah. all they have is love over at as ever farms incorporated they actually should be best friends well there are a lot of people that harry and megan like should be really tight with post royalty moving to montecito and the fact that they haven't become friendly with like any of the people we thought that they would they're never hanging out with the obamas like we thought they were gonna be at that level um it's definitely weird i think harry and justin
55:25Claudia Oshry:Justin would Trudeau Would um be good friends They're both just like random You know sure like I feel like They have the same interests like the environment Whatever they both
55:39Jackie Oshry:Love the environment for sure
55:42Claudia Oshry:Um Katie and Megan I could see It being like oil and water you know They seem absolutely they seem like They're actually very different which might make them you know katie would be the one to bring her out of her shell right or hate no i don't see those
56:00Jackie Oshry:two getting along i don't think it's a good match but i think we're just comparing them because they are similar now with like the justin trudeau they're at a different level of fame where it's like you're bordering on like global geopolitical issues yeah but also like everybody hates you everybody hates you yeah so they have that in common as well but once you get to a certain level like everybody hates you jeff and lauren i wonder if the lifetimes documentary like if at all is it just a concert it's just a concert she actually she said this is very different from
56:28Claudia Oshry:part of me that was more of a documentary about my life and this is a really a concert experience
56:31Jackie Oshry:at the highest level for the fans well you know what like this was such a criticized tour we forget because so much has happened since then but like that's when she was running around in her like galactic outfits like being crazy um i would like to see this just to know like what actually happened on that tour? I saw the crazy clips, but I imagine there was other stuff.
56:50Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Oh, they were at an event with Harry and Megan at the beef season two Montecito tastemaker event in April.
57:00Jackie Oshry:Okay. That's like, I thought you were going to say the like Montecito,
57:04Claudia Oshry:Montecito X Netflix. Like that is so Harry and Megan.
57:08Jackie Oshry:Yeah.
57:10Claudia Oshry:Okay. Well, um, good luck to them. Godspeed. you officially have a little ship. Let's see how you do out there.
57:17Jackie Oshry:No, you have some momentum behind you. Don't fuck it up.
57:22Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our fifth and final story? If it's our fifth and final story,
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1:04:33Claudia Oshry:final story is going to lead into the tv recap love island usa addresses an app glitch during the first fan vote of season eight so last night's episode ended they threw to a fan vote and apparently the app glitched. So they are keeping voting open today until three o 'clock p.m. Eastern time.
1:04:50Jackie Oshry:Yeah, which is confusing because I voted today but when I went to bed it wasn't up yet. So I was like, oh, I probably missed it. I checked this morning and I was like, oh, that's weird because I feel like they have to do it really quickly. I feel like it's like a two hour window to vote because they have to have the recoupling, edit the episode and air it.
1:05:03Claudia Oshry:Yeah.
1:05:04Jackie Oshry:So maybe the recoupling, okay, so, oh, well, there's no episodes on Wednesdays.
1:05:08Claudia Oshry:Okay. So.
1:05:12Jackie Oshry:The recoupling probably happens tonight and we watch it tomorrow.
1:05:14Claudia Oshry:But also, they're ahead of us. I think there's going to be another episode and then a recoupling. Yeah. Okay, I'm fine with that. And that's what happened with like Pepe and Hannah where it's like, we voted, we put them together because we thought she liked him and then in the next episode, she got back with Charlie and we're like, well, fuck, we voted for you.
1:05:35Jackie Oshry:We thought you liked him. The delay does really, so maybe like Melanie and Sincere will have this like redemptive moment.
1:05:41Claudia Oshry:1000 % or like Kenzie and Corbin will decide they're in love.
1:05:45Jackie Oshry:No, the only one I could see is really is, is Melanie and Sincere. Like, cause the thing is,
1:05:53Claudia Oshry:even if they decide they want to be together, I don't want them together. So that's why I'm happy to be able to step in, even though I'm not voting and not filming.
1:05:59Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I like the voting because it's the only like chance we have at accountability. Like, sorry, Beatrice, like is really not trying hard enough with anyone. Like she's a little too settled. She doesn't talk to anyone. She's kind of condescending because she's like in this like relationship meanwhile she doesn't know she's like the freakiest man ever who's like making out with everyone she has no idea what she has no idea also like can i talk about something when it comes to beatrice and like i don't know what it's like to have a prosthetic leg so like i don't know how i would act but she makes so many jokes about it i'm sure a lot of it has to do with like you know you can't be the butt of the joke if you're making the joke and like i i get that totally but i find it very off-putting oh i only heard one joke I've heard at least three.
1:06:42Claudia Oshry:Okay, because maybe I wasn't paying attention, but she made like one. I thought it was a funny joke. Like, it's just funny.
1:06:48Jackie Oshry:Which?
1:06:48Claudia Oshry:When she was like.
1:06:50Jackie Oshry:With the girls?
1:06:51Claudia Oshry:Yeah, she was saying how the other girls, you know, they have like, I don't have long hair, big boobs, and I have one leg.
1:06:57Jackie Oshry:She said it now, though, three times.
1:06:59Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Okay. I don't know.
1:07:02Jackie Oshry:I don't know what the right way to talk about not having a leg is, because that's just not been my experience. but um i find it a little
1:07:15Claudia Oshry:strange i think it didn't bother me i actually thought it was funny and like light-hearted and just the first time i thought that too she's just being the first time she said it i was like you know what good for her yeah i wonder if i kept hearing it but i only heard the
1:07:27Jackie Oshry:one and i was like oh that's just like funny it was funny the first time uh-huh um so i watched the episode I watched two episodes we had that crazy ass orgy challenge which was insane and it just gave me insane respect for who I already respected the most which is my girl Anaya but also Kada they were the only two who didn't hump and kiss every guy until they down their guy like
1:07:48Claudia Oshry:they never said you have to kiss everyone until you know who you're kissing it's like you can touch their the hair by the way you can get in two seconds everybody has different hair so I feel
1:07:57Jackie Oshry:like they were told not to touch their hair and the only person I saw touch hair is Melanie which is how she knew it was sincere and then she knew it was corbin a couple people touched
1:08:05Claudia Oshry:hair briefly but yes they they definitely like were asked to not focus on the hair but like you could have just given like a swipe and you would know immediately yeah and some of them everybody some did lightly touch hair so like they were able to know in shower caps oh that's good
1:08:21Jackie Oshry:yeah um so kata who was already like high up on my list and anaya who was already high up on my list like queens queens queens queens except like what was i wasn't fully following like what went
1:08:31Claudia Oshry:wrong with kata and zach really awkward okay so she acted like a respectful queen yes the whole time the whole time and then when the new bombshell came he hooked up with he made out with everyone they sort of did a big one she wrapped her like she was on her back she wrapped her legs around him wasn't just like you know the obligatory i have to make out with the bombshell and zach was like okay okay and so like the guy kept going a little bit longer so it was just like an oversized one for a girl who's like in but now he's like pulling other people for chats no he's he's being really like he's punishing her too much for it yeah he should have taken that opportunity to
1:09:10Jackie Oshry:close off like i know everyone's like a like afraid of closing off i don't know why but like they're so obsessed with one another and like yeah it's pissing him off that she's with another guy i feel like that's a sign that you're ready to close off like why is everybody so against closing
1:09:22Claudia Oshry:off no and he wasn't he was like ready to close off but then I think like he was just like very um I don't want to say hurt but I think like his ego was bruised that like this other guy like got to have that moment with his girl but he doesn't really have a like a place to talk because they those boys sat on the bed made out with everyone in the house plus two new bombshells while their girls were sitting like she's literally right there sitting there blindfolded like everybody
1:09:45Jackie Oshry:misbehaved that was that's what I don't understand about the show which is like why is some things a bigger deal than others like everybody's humping the whole time so everything in i understand melanie i understand melanie why everyone's upset with her because it's like you knew you had sincere and so you kept kissing corbin that was disgusting that was fucking crazy um yeah i seriously she was the prettiest girl when she got here and now like i find her insides to be so ugly that like she is
1:10:10Claudia Oshry:no longer my top no not at all i want her still on the show though because she's like so entertaining but like i yeah i think sincere is one of the best guys so far and they should not be together
1:10:20Jackie Oshry:no everything in a challenge it's literally jeremiah and huda everything in a challenge is
1:10:24Claudia Oshry:inbounds like you can make out with everyone but then there are people who take it to another level and we see that sometimes like huda and ace in the heart rate challenge like and you see it by everybody's reaction so the guy came in he makes out with everyone that's fine but the fact that she's like you know on her back with her legs they did a big one and it's like but you're my girl and you acted like that with the bombshell but like after what had just gone down i just think he really needs to let it go I understand he was like bummed that night she felt really bad I think she like realized oh this is more serious than I thought and I shouldn't be like acting that way but for him to like punish her into the next day pull back say he doesn't actually want to be
1:11:00Jackie Oshry:closed off like I think he pulled someone for a chat he's being like a little controlling at this
1:11:04Claudia Oshry:point it's getting a little ugly his red flag and you can see she's heartbroken I know and like
1:11:11Jackie Oshry:also no offense when there is such a disparity in looks like she's so fucking hot and he's like very fine looking he needs to act right like you can't be acting like that when the girl's much hotter
1:11:21Claudia Oshry:than you no but she at this point it doesn't matter she likes him a lot because she likes him so much I know it's not like when she came in and she was the bombshell and it's crazy how like when you're the bombshell you're like the shiniest most attractive thing and then like after two seconds later days you're like old used goods like nobody's even looking at you it's so
1:11:37Jackie Oshry:crazy so the two new bombshells soul and jen I do feel like jen is pro I guess like the girl who's going home a girl right i don't yeah because the girls got to last time
1:11:56Jackie Oshry:so like beatrice could go home but we're coupling people up so we're gonna put jen and gabriel oh
1:12:05Claudia Oshry:so maybe no one will go home yet just like huda didn't go home because jeremiah so like bay bay She'll just be single and then vulnerable.
1:12:12Jackie Oshry:Or Melanie. Because Caleb will have to choose someone. And Melanie. No, Caleb will have to choose someone. Not Caleb, sorry. Corbin will have to choose someone.
1:12:23Claudia Oshry:No, why will he? He'll be single and vulnerable.
1:12:28Jackie Oshry:Oh, yeah, I guess. Okay. I don't really understand how these things work. I know.
1:12:31Claudia Oshry:Sometimes it's recoupling, but no one goes home. So, yes, Jen will go with Gabriel. I don't know who else people would vote for her to be with. Oh, I guess she spoke to Zach. If people don't like Kada, do people not like Kada?
1:12:42Jackie Oshry:No, people are rooting for Kada.
1:12:44Claudia Oshry:Okay, great. So please keep Jen with Gabriel. Soul and sincere. I love them.
1:12:50Jackie Oshry:I love them. Let me tell you about this girl, Soul. You have to have like insane confidence to go on a show like this with no hair. And I think you actually have to have insane confidence to walk through life as just a woman with no hair. We put so much emphasis on her. I could never fucking do it. When I tell you like her aura is elite. Like she doesn't give a fuck. She has the most insane body. I saw somebody on Twitter say, Sol's body is so insane it makes me want to go to the gym. Like, it's literally, she has such a body T, as the kids say. And she's kind of radiant. Like, I really like her.
1:13:23Jackie Oshry:And I think that Sincere also has, because the way people talk about him, and you see it on the show, I think he has this, like, amazing aura as well. Like, a great personality, a really nice guy. Like, he's the oldest of five siblings. Like, a real man.
1:13:33Claudia Oshry:He's very sincere.
1:13:35Jackie Oshry:He's very sincere, of course. I think that they're an elite duo.
1:13:39Claudia Oshry:Let me tell you if these two couple up, I will vote for them to win the show.
1:13:44Jackie Oshry:Yeah. Except, no, sorry. Anaya and Casey. Except Anaya's like.
1:13:48Claudia Oshry:This is a, no. Anaya and Casey are on thin ice. You know, they're one bombshell away from destruction.
1:13:56Jackie Oshry:I know. Except like, she was kind of pissing me off. Cause like. She was being. I feel like she's.
1:14:01Claudia Oshry:I understand why she's hurt. She's looking for problems. No, no, no. I understand why she's hurt, but you can't be a Phibis and a Putum crying around the bill all day nobody wants to be around that complaining it was like it was insecure that's what melanie did and it makes it a self-fulfilling prophecy it's like well yeah no i don't want to be with you if all of our chats are just you telling me what i did wrong and i understand me jackie understands that what casey did was wrong and it hurts your feelings but like you have to put on a a happy face because you don't just want to be like the girl crying all day nobody wants to be in a relationship with that and like was it raining all day the weather was like so off i didn't notice oh you didn't i thought it was like so crazy that it was cloudy oh i saw some it's pg but i liked it i was happy for them to get a nice and then somebody was like it's quite breezy in it i like that i'm happy for them in the wind so anyways and yeah i feel like casey if like if a bombshell like we're locked in on casey like right now soul and jen like aren't really like that he's not their number one so it's like not an issue but i feel like he might deviate and they're not as strong they're just strong right now because nothing's
1:15:01Jackie Oshry:come between them yes they're not strong enough and she is not like um like bold and i could see that if her relationship was threatened she would probably just end up going home because she's not like a mover or shaker in the house she doesn't like start drama she doesn't yell that's why i like her like she's very normal um and normal doesn't do well here hi sean and jaylen but a
1:15:21Claudia Oshry:bombshell could come in turn casey's head he goes down that path and then he realizes that it's an for him and then oh they would be set but like they haven't had any sort of test yet and i just i could see him passing the test i could see him failing the test but still sincere if they you know if they make a go of it they just seem like they could go on and on who do you think is going
1:15:44Jackie Oshry:to be the first couple to close off i do feel like this saga between kata and zach even though it's been a red flag I think it probably will lead them because like the logical thing is like I didn't like that you were with another guy but you have to be with other guys because that's what we're here to do if only was there if there was a way for you to not be with other guys like
1:16:03Claudia Oshry:it's sort of the logical place to land yeah but he's not seeing it that way he's like I don't want to close off with you because you're not someone who like would treat me with more respect it was low-key manipulative it was it was and I felt really bad for her because obviously she doesn't give a shit about caleb she was just like putting on because it's like funny that's what
1:16:22Jackie Oshry:you're supposed to do you have to like cheer when there's a text like yeah you have to do these things yeah and it's like oh all of a sudden i did too much like bryce and jen know each other oh yeah from the modeling world that was weird like what are the odds but like i guess asia
1:16:39Claudia Oshry:shelley knew each other yeah i think it's a small world when you're an instagram model
1:16:43Jackie Oshry:like of thought land
1:16:46Claudia Oshry:Bryce and Trinity are adorable
1:16:48Jackie Oshry:adorable I don't know if there's like a huge romantic connection there but they're definitely really good friends and they're having a lot of fun yeah but if they can like
1:16:56Claudia Oshry:if they can turn it they could win they could win I think they're very beloved
1:17:03Jackie Oshry:yes they are the fans like like ride for Trinity
1:17:06Claudia Oshry:why am I getting the feeling that Kenzie likes Corbin more than she likes Caleb
1:17:11Jackie Oshry:oh no I feel like She's done with Corbin. Oh, he's gone. Like, I think that it was very convenient for that to have been like a really attractive bombshell. And her to have been like one of the only single gals and he was interested in her. Like it was truly a situation, like a connection of convenience.
1:17:25Claudia Oshry:No, but like he liked her too and she liked him. Oh, by the way, he likes her. And they're the only ones making out in the bed at night.
1:17:32Jackie Oshry:This new, you know, it's always fun to make out when it's new.
1:17:35Claudia Oshry:Tomorrow they won't make out. But you know what? If Corbin is single and Melanie is single, I think they should give it a shot. They like have their eyes on each other.
1:17:42Jackie Oshry:sure Corbin is freaky like I don't know I can't get a read on him no and like his personality
1:17:48Claudia Oshry:just stinks like it's just like that's so mean it's just like crazy how like when he came in and he starts talking about his like life it was just a red flag I feel like for everyone like you're not being genuine you're trying GPT like this is not real meanwhile Caleb comes in and there's no question like he's just talking like and it's just yeah himself and most people are like that even sincere talking about how he wants to go on a road trip to nowhere like okay
1:18:11Jackie Oshry:like just and she was like like drive aimlessly and he was like yeah like drive aimlessly
1:18:17Claudia Oshry:they're perfect for each other but like corbett doesn't say anything
1:18:21Jackie Oshry:no but he did say that he wanted to you know experiment with handcuffs and blindfolds he's freaky as fuck like i agree he doesn't really offer anything substantial he doesn't have deep conversations and i think that like when you're spending all fucking day with these people I think it gets boring really quickly if you're not having actual conversations and people's looks go out the window so fast a thousand percent like you're genuinely does not matter what you
1:18:44Claudia Oshry:look like and the girls look so cute every day and I'm like all the time put on her I'm gonna get my man back outfit like with her bathing suit and her hat I'm like you look adorable you've got this and it's like it doesn't matter what you look like yeah it's true like the looks get stripped
1:18:57Jackie Oshry:away that's why bombshells like burn bright and fast because it's something new but it very quickly like your personality is kind of everything when you're spending all fucking day with these people and you do then just find yourself attracted to people with attractive personalities yeah but i
1:19:11Claudia Oshry:guess for like bombshells who come in they might look at the old villagers like if someone there is their type and they want to get to know that's the only way how you can be seen again is from someone that's out fresh eyes
1:19:25Jackie Oshry:totally it's your only chance at like truly like glimmering for a minute it just seriously looks horrible like the experience i'm sorry i could never go on the
1:19:36Claudia Oshry:show these people who do this show have earned every single follower dollar fame opportunity
1:19:44Jackie Oshry:that they get this show is a humiliation ritual absolutely it is torture too like it is truly a form of intellectual spiritual physical and mental torture there were like eliminations where the
1:19:58Claudia Oshry:couples had to like choose couples to go home like when the islanders have to choose each other and it's like not just like a bombshell we don't know it's like you have to choose like you're the person
1:20:07Jackie Oshry:who's been with no it's like when you when you're like a hostage and then the hostage holder makes one of the hostagers kill another hostage like that's literally what it feels like that's what
1:20:14Claudia Oshry:it feels like to them like they go through so much to be on the show and like even all the
1:20:20Jackie Oshry:makeouts and they're porn stars yeah oh you know i was thinking that when they were um getting ready for the challenge they all got on the bed and they filmed them in slow motion like in the white lingerie like throwing pillows at each other and they're like zooming in on people's ass cheeks i'm like it's so crazy you graduated nursing school last week and now you are like an adult film entertainer yeah and and a lot of them come in with like jobs like i make elevators i'm like well you also do porn like yeah it's crazy you do porn but it's not like sometimes porn stars like
1:20:46Claudia Oshry:they don't have to also you know be on camera personalities and like they're doing all of this like talking, doing their makeup, their makeup artists, their hairstylists. No, but it's just funny. Cause like, you know,
1:20:59Jackie Oshry:a brand would never do a brand deal with a porn star. Like, but you'll do a brand deal with somebody from Love Island. Like it's the same thing.
1:21:07Claudia Oshry:Yeah, no, but it's, porn is a part of the job for sure, but it's not the whole part. It's not the whole thing. So like they're doing a lot. They deserve it all.
1:21:16Jackie Oshry:Agreed.
1:21:17Claudia Oshry:And they're risking a lot because you could end up like Sean who gave it all up for nothing.
1:21:22Jackie Oshry:For nothing. You see Jalen posted about John. He posted a Spider-Man meme. Like two Spider-Mans pointing at each other. Jalen and John. And he said, keep your head up, brother. Something like that.
1:21:34Claudia Oshry:Maybe he'll be married by the end of the year. It's true.
1:21:37Jackie Oshry:Anything can happen. But it's more about the police force and the job.
1:21:43Claudia Oshry:Of course. And the mayor. And the unemployment.
1:21:46Jackie Oshry:Yeah. By the way, Nalafi for you. make sure to head over to shoptoestmerch.com to get your summer merch. Hope you guys get everything you want in this life and more. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast and Millennium Morning Show. We deliver the fast-paced stories you need to know every Monday the Friday night on YouTube. Stay watching us on YouTube. Please do subscribe. We can see the thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast and our podcast we found. So that's Spotify, Twitter, and Stitcher, Public Radio. I already cast books all the places you've been listening to podcasts. Have an amazing day.
1:22:08Jackie Oshry:We'll see you tomorrow.
1:22:09Claudia Oshry:Love ya. Bye.
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