The Nicolandria Audit: Thursday, July 23rd, 2026

24:38Yeah. Weird. So that's what I'm saying. Like in this audit, it's not reflecting well on her when this entire time I thought like. He was bringing her down. She's so above him. And she is so above him. But like now, I don't know. The whole thing has sort of like sullied her good name. And at the end of the day, Nicolandria at its core was just genuine dishonesty. And that's never a good look. Fraud. Fraud. People have gone to prison for worse. I mean for less. Yeah. And if I were like running Nicolandria Incorporated dot org HQ TM, I would say right after the next season of Love Island airs, we should break up.

25:18That's what I would say. Right. It's a little obvious. Honestly, they should have waited another six months or like right before the season aired so that like people would be on to the next thing. It wasn't it was obviously a choice like the timing. And I think it was actually a bad time to choose. Yeah. But now the streets are saying that she's been hooking up with Travis Scott. That's what Dumas said. and it's like do Maslow keep pissing me off like isn't the whole point of what you do to like share these titillating things that you get that might shock the public when it's still titillating so like yeah sharing that they were mean to each other at Coachella like now well we know they broke up thanks for that but that would have been helpful to know at Coachella yeah so like sorry her and her like last minute you could have used the backup here yeah right it's just it's not brave to like go along with like Nicolandria Stans now they broke up being like yeah I also heard it was fake it's like you're supposed to be like the hint person yeah It's like lame as fuck, honestly.

26:07Yeah. And then she reported today, which she probably just got today now that everyone's talking about Nicolandria, that Alandria is hooking up with Travis Scott. For months, allegedly. So, like, I just feel that. Which is maybe why they're finally breaking up so that, first of all. Maybe it's like getting close to coming out. If she steps out with Travis Scott, that's better for, like, her stock. Yeah. And maybe she wants that. Because I think for a while. Nicolandria being Stormy's stepmom. I mean, think about the dinner. Like, Stormy's graduation. With Timothy. Travis, Alandria, Kylie, and Timothy at Stormy's graduation dinner.

26:39Obsessed. See. And you know Kylie loves Love Island. And by the way, this is what we have wanted for Alandria. You know Kylie loves Love Island. She probably loves Alandria.

26:48Jackie Oshry:When we've talked about Nicolandria at a glance over the last year, this is what we've wanted for Alandria. She is on another level. She can start dating much more eligible, famous, wealthy men. So this is exactly what we wanted for her. But I don't know. I'm just not feeling good about it. About Travis Scott? No, about the whole thing in general. Like, I wanted them to break up and I wanted her to date Travis Scott. Like, everything that I wanted to happen is happening. But it just happened in a really, like, dishonest way. The way I thought I would feel about her when they broke up is not how I feel about her.

27:15I thought I would feel like, yes, she's free. Yeah. But instead I feel like, well, you're both liars. Yeah. And the fact that she doesn't have, like, friendships from the show doesn't reflect well on her. And she's just always doing everything alone. Yeah. When everyone's doing everything together. Yeah. Yeah. and I feel like people are starting to to turn question that yeah I don't need to like turn on her or anything but at what point like does the cost of Nicola Andrea come home to roost you know what I mean thousand percent like this is so serious to me like this is so serious and like any other fake Love Island couple that goes really far or wins just because one of them is really liked that happens every season Am I and Brian like break up two weeks later we don't care yeah like everybody else the show's over we don't care They took it so serious.

28:02So far. They really thought they were like doing something. Yeah. And they were, by the way, until a point. Because like while I was onto them, I'm more media literate than the average person. A couple weeks later, we're like the distance. It was too hard. We're better off as friends. The people who believed them would have stayed believing. And like would have just rest in peace, had a quiet ceremony. It's true. They gave everyone too much time to doubt them. And in that year, we're seeing just like public appearances, not couple content. No, not love. No. Like they were on the cover of Glamour magazine together.

28:33Like if I'm the editor of Glamour, like I'm embarrassed. Like I got duped. I feel like overall Nicolandria like was a test for people. I passed. You passed. The toast passed with flying colors. And if I'm a person who failed, like who even for one second believed that they were real, like I'm taking a hard look in the mirror. Because like I said, this is serious for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we can only hope to like learn from this. I don't need to learn anything. Neither do you, of course. But I hope others do. Definitely. And I'll be curious to see the couples at the reunion because so far, Carl and Anaya like are tracking.

29:06Everyone is keeping up. At least Carl and Anaya kiss, you know, and like they are in a sort of couple. But it is like the same thing where she. The fans are obsessed with it. He went to Casa, chose someone else. Right. She stayed, chose him. Then people became obsessed with the relationship. The producers like produced their way into Carnaya. and let's see what happens next. Though I do think there is a little bit more romance between those two. Me too. I mean there is. They kiss and they like make out at night and stuff. I agree. Nickelandria is just like paperwork. Separate beds. Paper. Yeah.

29:43So that's the end of Nickelandria. I will miss it. I won't. I will miss talking about them. I will miss being right. I'll miss talking about them. Yeah. And he's just. He's spooky. I like. I'll never get over it. I know. I know. He'll never make it right. Yeah, I know. He, to this day, has never spoken to Ciara. I would love to talk to Ciara. Yeah. I do feel that she's healed. Like, it took a long time, but she talks about it, like, in vague ways. I follow her on TikTok. I follow her on Instagram. She's just a really good influencer, too. She makes amazing content. She does good makeup, good outfits.

30:14I was just looking at her content. I follow her, so I see a lot of it a lot of the time, but not all of it. And, like, the videos that she makes, like, by the sea. On the beach, doing her makeup. That's, like, her thing. You guys have to watch these videos. Like some people just have the content bug. Yeah. And we just, we all moved on from that too quickly. Like his biggest crime is not even the fraudulent relationship. It's what he did to that girl. Yeah, of course. No, it's that. You could be in a fraudulent relationship. I don't care. Of course. We all have bills to pay. Yeah. Okay. So you're friends and you just want to like, you know, make some money.

30:46Yeah. Sierra. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Hmm. Where to go? Where to go? Oh, she's lost. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City's Whitney Rose and husband Justin Rose break up after 16 years of marriage are you going to be okay? I'm okay I know how much Justin Rose means to you because he looks like Hannah Brown Hannah Brown I love you I know you're watching yes no I'll be okay this is just like I feel like when couples go through such hard times and don't break up then I'm genuinely shocked when they eventually break up and I feel like the last few seasons they've had really hard financial issues and changes in their marriage with like her being the breadwinner and the whole dynamic that they like got married and they've changed when she became a housewife as it normally does.

31:28But I just thought they were so solid. Like this is, if you had to guess like the next couple that would split in Salt Lake City, I just wouldn't think it would be them. Actually, like just because there are a lot of good marriages in Salt Lake City, like I think that Meredith and Seth do have a good marriage. I think that Lisa and John do. I actually might've said Whitney Rose just because they have like a freaky like backstory. Like they have a big age gap. And she is so different. That happens a lot that you just become different. That's true. Like you just change as a person when you become a housewife and yes, financially independent.

31:58And like famous. Yeah. It changes who you are. I think a lot of the times like at your core and sometimes you change into a person that your husband hates or you change into a person who hates their husband. So yeah. And I feel like she actually has changed so much. That's a good assessment. So the news is that the two have separated after 16 years of marriage. They have not spoken out publicly about what led to their breakup. However, their ups and downs, including job losses, his job loss, failed business ventures and financial troubles after he put all of his money into her business, have been thoroughly chronicled during the last six seasons.

32:31Even though when you're having financial issues, kind of the worst thing you can do is get divorced because it's so expensive. You have to split everything. It's like, we only have one dollar. Now we have to split it. So I just think it's a good financial decision. That's very true. It's really bad for your finances to get divorced, even for wealthy people. you become temporarily poor yeah okay i have to catch up on salt lake city because i want to watch the next season like a lot's happening like between and i also like want to know like why now again you know we talk about this a lot with like couples who have been through a lot who have kids and it's like what changed what was like the final straw because it does feel like something had to have happened their financial issues started like many years ago agreed with not that like divorce isn't going to make it any better so like why are they getting divorced who wanted the divorce who do you think wanted it yeah me too just to guess yeah always sad yeah and i think also maybe it's because how like the franchise is still new but i do think that if you've been on housewives for a long time and your marriage has survived like drama and rumors like you're pretty set like especially if you're an older woman that's why i think whitney's like also kind of young she's still like you know 39 she's still a butterfly she's still cocooning and changing and butterflies are really like the metaphor of this a thousand percent it's a butterfly summer but like i think with a lot of the older housewives once they make it through like five six seasons with their husbands and they're tested like it actually ends up being good for marriage if you make it through yeah and so i don't think that one they've been tested like well they obviously like were tested and failed and two like she's really young i think if you're like really sure of who you are i remember melissa gorga came on the podcast she was talking about how like she was a housewife like she did not make any money and she was like really happy being and then she became like really independent was like going out to events and i think that like a lot of times like that can happen and it tests your relationship and like you fail or you succeed and i think like teresa uh not teresa uh melissa and joe like succeeded because if you watch the early episodes he's like toxic get in the kitchen and she's like wait but i was like male chauvinist and then like the the format of their relationship like changes and gender roles and it's like you're home with the kids because i gotta go out and there's definitely growing pains a thousand And you see that and it's like painful, but it doesn't mean that it has to end.

34:42Like you could reformat yourself. Right. And then of course, like Joe Gorga got himself famous. Like it all worked out well for them. But I think maybe that's kind of what happened here. Because Melissa Gorga was also young. So like she was like still figuring out who she was as a mom and a woman. And then this thing happens and you're famous. And Jersey, like they really blew up. But like Justin Rose like seems very. I don't know what Justin Rose seems like. Except for there was a weird scene, right? With Lisa Barlow. What? like he like they got into a fight i hate when the men get in fights it's like so seriously girly and he like like spoke nasty to her like she like came at him like ranting about his wife but like doesn't matter the husbands of salt lake city do not get involved and he sort of shouldn't he sort of like barked at her very kentod stupid woman yeah yeah and especially because he's like seemed so jovial and like kind-hearted and it was just a little awkward even though like she started she asked for it right it doesn't matter like ranting doesn't matter you're just supposed to stand there you're just supposed to stand there you give the men of bravo juicy andy went um instagram a fish with his boyfriend like they posted such a cute picture and i do feel and you know what somebody tagged me in a clip you know hoda she like started that like media company or whatever she like does a show in the back of a car it's like sponsored by toyota but uh they were talking she had andy on and somebody tagged me in this clip where he was talking about how he loves his job so much but he went through an era where like he got um like a lot of data they do bravo like q score tests and focus groups whatever and they got a bunch of feedback that it seems like andy on watch what happens live was like checked out and just like over it and andy was like that was such a reality check for me like i have the best job in the world and you know he does feel like he's done a little bit of a yeah i was shocked that he shared that but he was like yeah the data like people were the feedback was that like i felt kind of checked out you need the toast literally and he was like the second i heard that like it just it hit me sideways and i realize like I have the best job in the world I don't know like what I'm complaining about and he's been like totally recommitted to it ever since I'm in shock how did I not see that because it's on this like random sponsored show that Hoda does in the back of a car I feel like I'll find the clip personally attacked and it was sad about you they ran like actual focus groups so he says but literally we said that we're not the only people who said that like it's so obvious he's sort of cutting people off shoving them out the door like I guess so but like it could have just been like you know the streets are saying and it's us no no he said are the streets he said bravo gave him like formal data research from the streets of the toast we are the streets by the way literally yeah so britney rose britney rose wish you the best goodbye are you ready for our next story aaron dessner is setting the record straight on gracie abrams song death wish he said it's Definitely not about Taylor Swift.

37:26So weird that he's addressing this, but as we discussed earlier this week, Gracie Abrams has a song on her new album, Death Wish, that has some people, mostly me and Liz Woods, wondering if it's about Taylor. Yeah, I'm not putting my tinfoil hat on for this. Like, I don't believe that it is. Yes, and like there was other things, you know, she performed it in 2025, and she said it was out on a friend's boyfriend. but he addressed the rumors and nastiness.

37:59He said the record's straight. He said the studio version predates the live recording by several months. We wrote it actually the week that we recorded. That's so true. I told you things and other songs from Secret of Us Deluxe. In the wake of Daughter from Hell coming out, people were like, wait, what about the original version? This is the original version. Regarding speculation that it's about Taylor, he said, yeah, definitely not. It was written at a time when Gracie was writing about a friend's ex being in a bad relationship. He is sort of like parroting her. I just want to say, like, I can accept that it's not about Taylor.

38:29But writing about your friend's ex, like, it's just so, and it's such like a strong song. Like, I don't have that strong of feelings about my friend's ex. I don't know. Actually, Megan Maroney's, like, number one hit that, like, the first ever song she wrote is about her friend's boyfriend. What song? He don't make you wonder. That's not my favorite. That's the only part that I know. it's complimentary by the way it's not Tennessee orange and it's because it's her friend that just got married so she like I saw her wedding speech like went viral that like I guess Grace is young so like her friendships are like yeah and you know like young girls are always like taken up for their friends and she's looking for like inspiration everywhere yes of course because as a songwriter you can't like only bleed out for yourself like sometimes you need to seek inspiration he said so it was for that about that kind of person I think I wouldn't even actually know who the person is I'm kind of obsessed with Aaron Dessner being the one to set the record straight shout out to Hannah Daly at Billboard for asking the scary questions.

39:20A thousand percent. Just like, did you see that clip from our competitors at PopCast, the New York Times pop culture? Mm-hmm. They asked Olivia Rodrigo about like the Taylor Swift beef. She gets asked about it actually quite a bit. To ask like face-to-face on a podcast is kind of crazy.

39:35Jackie Oshry:I thought that was like so brave and scary. And she always gives like the same sort of package, not believable. Yeah. Did you see that New York Magazine wrote an article like that literally said exactly what you said about Olivia Rodrigo dating someone in finance. Yes, I did. And I felt very like validated that there, that was their thought as well. And I think the person who wrote it like is like a proud communist. She's a socialist. And she was like, but I get it. Like we basically, we all go out and get dicked down by finance bros. Like it was basically what we said. She was like coming at it from like another angle.

40:04Complimentary. Like as a socialist, like, yeah. But we're saying the same thing. Yeah. And like, we agree. Yeah. You know what I mean? World peace. Yeah. like I think Olivia Rodrigo like might spawn world peace. A thousand percent. We can come together like and like be together. Be one. Yeah. She gets asked about the Taylor thing quite a bit. We never get anything. Like everything she says is so generic. Yeah. And it doesn't color what I think at all because it's just like PR. But like it's crazy to ask her that too. I know because like obviously when you sit down with a celebrity maybe if you we don't interview people like a lot.

40:40maybe if we did like you grow a set of balls because i would be like yeah fuck taylor swift like i would just be like scared yeah like saying whatever she said but yeah no you're not and you're so right about that i would be like yeah yeah no a hundred percent and like people thought there was like a little bit of shade in what she said but of course like you over she can't get away with saying anything but she just like she talked a lot about how it was like you know great learning blah blah blah and how like she just like it's important to her to treat everyone like kindness and respect and so it's like well why are you bringing that up it's giving like i wasn't treated with kindness she's disrespectful yeah it's giving you know but i'm gonna lay off because like there's no good way to answer that question and like you don't want to be in like taylor's crosshairs so yeah just want to get through the question and i'm sure she knows every time she sits down for an interview she's going to be asked it no i think that's really i think it's really inappropriate that like you do like i i love your your bravery but i think it's inappropriate like to ask about this like drama with this like big scary artist that like there's say there is real drama and there is what can she say what you really want her to like compromise her career by like actually telling you what happened right right and the fact that you say she's asked about it every time well then stop asking you have the answer you should be watching you should be watching her previous interviews before you interview her again we never get new information so it's just bad journalism like you know she's not gonna journalist asks the same question like when they all ask someone the same question that just means you haven't watched their like previous interviews i want like you asking new questions so while i commend the balls and i personally hadn't heard her talk about it before like i do think it's it's not right and it's like it's not going to engender them to want to be on your show when they're being asked like hard uncomfortable questions yeah yeah and also she was sitting in the middle and like one of them was to her right and one of them was to her left which i think is just like a really weird setup for a bike because she was like talking to both of them like right left right left like a tennis match i just thought it was weird yeah speaking of i meant to tell you i drove past the movie theater in southampton yesterday and they are playing the odyssey in imax because we were saying that like we really want to see it but they say it's not worth seeing if it's not an imax and i was like well there's definitely not an imax in the hamptons there is i'm just saying we could like sure let's go i just feel like low-key i'm not gonna like it because like i feel like we should we should see it like for this show like what is it like we used to do love island like seven nights a week but we can watch a three-hour movie it's gonna be like dumb but like the odyssey is like a fake story right it's like a just like a made-up story yeah it's about greek gods though there is some yeah are all the characters greek gods or like or are they just greeks and they're in the horse like i don't really know it's not trojan horse there is trojan horse trojan horse is part of odyssey i saw a clip on tiktok are you sure thousand percent i love trojan horse where they hide yeah oh my god genius i saw like someone talking about it's trojan horse in odyssey oh and i made ben because the trojan horse is okay i'm looking at two conflicting things ai says yes but only briefly, Odysseus actually devised the trick.

43:31So the wooden horse is mentioned during the story, but the event takes place before the timeline of the Odyssey. Well, actually, what I saw was that somebody complaining that chronologically the horse shouldn't be. It shouldn't be here. Well, I don't want to see any spoilers. Yeah, okay. I do want to see it. I just feel like I'm going to spend all this time watching it. I'm not going to understand it or like it. I do think it's maybe just a little bit above my... You're very smart. And you're smarter than the average. well that's true because i didn't fall for nicolandria right so like i think you'll get it it's not it's a movie it's a movie like they wanted to appeal to the masses i think you're not giving yourself enough credit okay nor christopher nolan okay like this is he's kind of cute no i don't know him yeah i've been seeing him a lot like on press and stuff because like when they interview the cast like he's there too you know and so like is a landry are going to be going to the premiere with travis scott probably like i'm ready for that i just what is life that's what it should have been all along.

44:27Yeah. She really got in her own way because she should have been going to premieres and things of that nature with him long ago. Yeah. Trips to the Cape. Exactly.

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49:58I don't know if she was making like euphemisms. No, she's talking about an actual vacation. I guess she takes a lot of vacations. She brings her family on vacation. She has five siblings and then all their kids and nephews like combined. And they all go on vacation together to her various homes in L.A. and Majorca and the Vineyard. And she, I guess, wrote them a letter.

50:22Chiding them for their behavior on vacation. It is very, very long, but I will read some of it. You can understand the tone out of nowhere. She posted this with the caption. It's family vacation season, which means it's time to reread the rules. If you want a vacation with me, these are the rules. To all my nuggets, I want to start this email by telling each of you, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, and F, that I love you for all different sorts of reasons and there is nothing any of you could ever do to get me to unlove you. It can never happen. So it was with great love and hope that we can use this as an opportunity to get better at being together.

50:54Our family is dysfunctional, and that's what families are. What we need to work on, however, is manners. There was a definite shortfall of manners on this trip, and I left this trip feeling embarrassed and taken advantage of. Say hello to people who are working in the house, who are delivering something, or who work for me. You don't have to have conversations with the housekeepers or workers, but you do need to acknowledge their existence out of decency and respect. This goes for my home in L.A. or Majorca, the vineyard, or wherever we happen to be vacationing. She said, these are the points in bold, but she said, I treat my employees like family, and I expect you to do the same.

51:26You know, if someone's carrying boxes, help them, whether a boy or a girl, open the door. It's a nice and decent thing to do to be conscientious of the others who are also on the vacation with you. Girls, be kind and thoughtful to my guests. Do not roll your eyes repeatedly or even ever. Then she says, do not consume copious amounts of alcohol on multiple occasions. Do not complain about food while you are eating it. This happened at every meal. You are not at home. You are a guest. Clean your plates after you eat. Don't put them in the sink and don't leave them where you ate them. Open the dishwasher and put them inside.

52:00Do not litter on the grounds of someone else's house. She talks about how they rented the house and how would the owner feel. Beer cans everywhere. How do you think these people would react to their property being littered with beer bottles? Do you think they would ever want to rent to us again? I understand that not everyone wants to, and this is just slide four out of like eight. I understand that not everyone wants to hang out with their family 24-7, but I'm going to require that when you are with the family, You are not on your phone or playing video games. You have the entire day to do what you want.

52:27You can make the time to be present with the family for an hour or two at night. She goes on in detail about how they should behave, what they have been doing, how she loves treating them to these trips. And it's a big financial burden for her. And she pays the cleaners and she pays for this and that. But she expects people to act at a certain level. Now, by the way, the bottom of the pages says, I'll have what she's having. So I believe this is an excerpt from her book that came out in 2025 based on like what I've tried to cobble together to understand this. Yeah. Okay. So I think that those are good rules.

53:03I just don't know why she's telling this to us and like blowing up her family spot. Like genuinely make shit. Like based on what she's told me, like your family is piece of shit. Like that's like why would you ever want to paint your family in that light? Like if that's actually what happened, like good on you for sending that email. Like these kids need to know. Be nice. Whatever. But it's like why the fuck are you telling me this? Why is it in your book? why is it on your Instagram on Instagram it is so very very odd and yeah if you're treating everyone to a trip and they're not acting graciously they're not saying please and thank you they're leaving dishes and garbage on the floor then I guess it's mature of her to like write this email and be like if you want to continue to go on these trips like this is how it has to be but I don't know I would say like maybe don't take everyone on trips but then she said she now does like adults only trips so she can be with her siblings and then she does like trips for the kids no like that's all good but like why are we talking about this like why why is this now a topic on our podcast i don't know chelsea hitler's family vacation dynamics and like just your family looks so bad like you make them look like actual animals yeah and i'm not doubting that any of this happened like yeah they need to start talking to like kids can you know be bad i didn't even know who these people are now i know her siblings names and and they have all these kids and like if I'm their friend at school I'm like no what did you do on your family vacation I didn't understand at all what I was reading and I did try like I took like five minutes like a swipe and stuff and then I stopped caring and like now that I think I know um okay and like maybe she's like saying it so like people will share it as like okay these are really good rules for vacation and like they are but it's just like so harsh and it also creates this dynamic of like I pay for everything yeah I know these are my rules and every all of you fall in line and that's just like a weird dynamic i agree like when you are the wealthy one and you you want to be gracious like if everyone is acting like an animal like you sort of do have to throw in like yeah bitch i paid for this yeah but if you're like holding it over everyone it's like this trip sucks like putting it in your book and putting it on your instagram like yeah no this is weird i think it's weird that she put it on her instagram uh completely agree yeah completely yeah and then our fifth and final story a Julie Andrews documentary is coming to Disney Plus.

55:12You know what? I was just thinking the other day and like I know saying this out loud is going to give me like like shit. Like I've never seen that music. I know. Journey, you would love it. I know. And every time I'm looking for a movie and it comes up I'm like Ben, you know I've never seen this. Like let's watch it. He's like no. I do want to watch it. We should watch it as a family because like the kids will love it. The kids will like it. It's totally approved. What's like the song from it? Like there are so many. Oh, the hills are alive with the sound of music. For sure, but also raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens.

55:43Oh, Edelweiss, right? Edelweiss. Yeah, you need to watch that shit. Do-re-me. Of course, Do-a-deer, a female-deer. What song isn't from it? Yeah. I know she's in other stuff, but like the story is just for my life. She kind of needs a documentary. I love that. Yeah, Princess Diaries. I don't know if everyone knows this. I am being reminded myself that she voiced Lady Whistledown in Bridgerton. I did not know that. no she's like low-key queen legendary and I think that kids these days myself included like don't even know the breadth of her work I find it interesting that like in everything that she's in whether it's like a hundred years ago or like Princess of Genovia she looks exactly the same like you're telling me that in Sound of Music she's what like 17 she looks 87 like she's like eternally old yeah but maybe that's just like because of the way people like looked then yeah also it is like the pixie cut she's had the pixie cut not just in old age she's had it forever yeah I'd love to see her with like a like a loose wave you know each wave yeah i think this is gonna be great totally i didn't know like disney plus was like doing documentaries do you know what i mean yeah um it's the same documentarian who did billy eilish's documentary and i very sadly missed that also the september issue which was very good that was a production company they also did you never saw September issue?

57:02I don't think so. Oh, so good. I do think that it will be well executed. Yeah. And when I think of people who like need documentaries, I never would have thought Julie Andrew. Did I tell you guys I watched the Martin Short documentary? You did. I liked it. I've thought about it a couple of times. Like sometimes I watch documentary and I never think about it again. Yeah. But now I just read. Do you want to like add it to your list of documentaries? No. No. No. That you talk about. But I also talk about Eddie Murphy's documentary a lot. Not more than Martin Short. And. Okay. Okay. Is there anything you want to add to the list?

57:33No. Okay. The list will remain intact. Yeah. Just Lady Gaga, 5 '2", and Katy Perry, pardon me. And Shawn Mendes. Well, no, that's the other list. The bad one. Documentaries that didn't need to be made. Shawn Mendes, wonder. Here, do you want me to tell you? And it's literally one. Yeah, I don't need to write it down. It's just one. Hold on. Let me just search 5 '2". Oh, because we definitely have this. Yeah, we do. I know I do. 5 '2". Did I do numbers? You might have said 5, like, quotation 2. I hope I didn't five foot just write Gaga okay

58:09there it is Joan Rivers piece of work of course it's under the file of Claudia's repeated stories and then it's celebrity documentaries Shawn Mendes versus Lady Gaga it's it's perfect like documentaries that needed to be made and documentaries that did not need to be made yes that's Shawn Mendes wonder like literally nobody needed that nobody in the whole fucking world even sean mendes's number one fan didn't need that but even lady gaga's number one hater needed five foot two yeah yeah and like five foot two is can be swapped with joan river's piece of work oh two perfect just two perfect documentaries that is just yeah and if you're looking for joan river's piece of work like you can only watch it on youtube and you have to buy it and i do own it it's in the hall of fame it is the hall of fame it might be the number one documentary of all time i know i could literally quote it like it's so good yeah well those are the fast-sized stories and i feel as though you definitely need to know the first one just to like remind everyone that we were right you needed to know the second one that whitney rose justin rose like things we were right about yeah i was just like searching nicolandra on twitter because i like want to know what the streets are saying they're they're doubting right um yes there's definitely a lot of one's like grieving the loss of this relationship.

59:25Oh no, I saw, like, I saw someone. Well, there are like, the people who started the whole Nicolandria fandom and like those fan edits during the season, these were two people, if you're not familiar, they were on the island. Like, I don't want to put this person on blast, but that's what they're doing. I can't stop shaking. I put so much love and effort into Nicolandria and this happens. I think this is satire. They literally saved my life and I owe them so much. I don't know how I can survive this. That's satire. Are you sure? Absolutely. That's funny. You never know. I know, especially because like people who, Nicola Andrea was like created out of thin air.

59:56I thought that was real. No, you're funny. Well, that's our show, you guys. Thank you so much for listening to the Toast on Monday morning show. We deliver the fast-paced stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. If you're watching us on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us a video with a thumbs up.

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