In short
The hosts recap “The Toast” updates and then focus on pop-culture headlines, especially leaked “Summer House” reunion audio, plus celebrity dating/crossovers and a Taylor Swift wedding timing rumor. They also discuss their show’s behind-the-scenes improv style, studio plans, and a Patreon Q&A, then pivot into “Fast Five” news.
Guests
No guests appear in this episode. The hosts are attorney Lou (host) and Jackson Clawden/Bryson Streis (co-hosts).
Key claims
- “Summer House” reunion leaks: more clips were released, framed as defensive/indignant behavior rather than a unified front; the recording may be from someone bitter after being fired, and Bravo is working with fan accounts to suppress reposts.
- Dr. Dre may be dating “The Valley” star Michelle “Sinai” (holding hands at Nobu).
- Angelina Jolie and Giselle Bryant’s daughters are pictured together at a sorority event in Atlanta (Spelman).
- Taylor Swift’s wedding is rumored for July 1 (with Michael Rubin moving his party to avoid clashing).
Notable examples
- Amanda kissing Kyle at a bar (February, everyone drunk) and later going home with West; discussion of legal marriage vs. cheating optics.
- Mahjong talk: conflicting rules about calling (sequence/pair) and “news you can call” debate.
- Instagram “AI bio”/search results described as unflattering and intrusive.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Podcast of Record Discussion
0:45 to 4:16
Hosts discuss the significance of being called the 'podcast of record' and their social media presence.
“Yeah, it's only Tuesday, but that's okay.”
Improv and Podcasting
4:16 to 6:46
Conversation about how improvisation plays a role in their podcast and past experiences.
“Before we dive into what needs to be done, let's talk about us.”
Patreon Insights and Tea Spilling
6:46 to 10:10
Hosts share insights from their Patreon episode and discuss audience engagement.
Mahjong and Game Dynamics
10:10 to 13:49
Hosts talk about their experiences with Mahjong and the dynamics of winning and losing.
“I had a similar experience where I was like, I feel like I'm winning too much in this game.”
Rules and Conflicts in Mahjong
13:49 to 14:02
Discussion about Mahjong rules and opinions from their audience on gameplay.
Mahjong Rules Debate
14:02 to 15:10
The hosts discuss conflicting opinions about the rules of Mahjong.
“I don't ask anyone else You didn't like look it up anywhere?”
Reality Show Insights
15:10 to 17:10
Conversation about recent reality TV episodes, including a reunion and podcast appearances.
“Well I actually watched on my morning TikTok scroll You know how they released like the first seven minutes of like random episodes of Bravo sometimes.”
Social Media Concerns
17:10 to 18:05
Discussion on Instagram's new features and their implications for privacy.
Dear Toasters Segment Introduction
18:05 to 18:20
The show introduces the 'Dear Toasters' segment about juicy stories.
“We do have some juicy, salacious stories.”
Summer House Reunion Leaks Discussion
23:40 to 27:33
Analysis of leaking clips from the Summer House reunion and viewer reactions.
“You're just sort of being given the energy you give out.”
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Investigation Updates and Fan Engagement
27:33 to 28:00
Insights on the investigation surrounding the leaks and fan involvement.
“I feel like I don't really want to listen to them anymore.”
Unpacking the Reunion Dynamics
28:00 to 29:00
Explore the complexities of the reunion and cast dynamics.
“And that like we're going to learn more about the situation.”
Amanda's Mental Health and Role in the Reunion
29:00 to 31:20
Discuss Amanda's mental health journey and her role in the reunion.
“The fact that they left together feels weird because if I'm Amanda, I'm mad at West.”
The Importance of Conversational Structure
31:20 to 32:50
Analyze the need for structured conversation during the reunion.
“Everyone else, like, they were there, but they aren't longstanding members of this dynamic, first of all.”
Dreams and Aspirations in Podcasting
32:50 to 34:30
Discuss aspirations for a podcast centered on family names.
The Concept of 'Namesake' Podcast
34:30 to 35:50
Explore the concept and potential of the 'Namesake' podcast.
“But I kind of would love to hear him on like Armchair Expert.”
Celebrity Relationships and Surprising Pairings
35:50 to 37:50
Examine the surprising relationship between Dr. Dre and Michelle Sinai.
“No, and then apparently there was a phone call with Katie DeLuca and Kyle.”
Dr. Dre's Unexpected Dating Life
37:50 to 40:00
Delve into the reactions regarding Dr. Dre's dating life with Valley star.
“But like she was conversing with a billionaire like years ago.”
Celebrity Couplings and Reality TV Insights
40:00 to 42:00
Discuss the implications of celebrity couplings in reality TV.
“No, I think if we just watch the season, like we would maybe get some answers.”
Celebrity Pairings and Sorority Surprises
42:00 to 45:30
Discover the unexpected connections between celebrities and their children, particularly in sorority life.
“Giselle from Real Housewives of Potomac.”
Taylor Swift's Wedding Buzz
45:30 to 52:50
Explore the latest updates on Taylor Swift's wedding plans and the dynamics of her celebrity friendships.
“A little Taylor Swift wedding update because why?”
Excitement for 'Verity' Movie Adaptation
58:28 to 1:02:12
Discussion about the upcoming movie adaptation of Colleen Hoover's 'Verity'.
“Our fifth and final story, Verity trailer dropped.”
Dear Toasters: Wedding Memorial Advice
1:02:12 to 1:08:39
Advice segment addressing a listener's dilemma about a wedding memorial for a relative.
“If you aren't open to either you being the problem or your husband being gay, don't write it.”
Dear Toasters: Bachelorette Party Controversy
1:08:39 to 1:10:03
Discussing a listener's frustrations about a bachelorette party situation.
“I'm not feeling anywhere close to my best physical self, yada, yada.”
Discussing the Impact of Abuse
1:10:03 to 1:12:18
Explore the devastating consequences of emotional and sexual abuse in relationships.
“but you are no i'm sorry and this is just the beginning a crime this is just the beginning This man has no respect for you or your bodily autonomy.”
Caution Against Trusting Men
1:12:19 to 1:14:28
Understanding the prevalence of male predatory behavior and the importance of vigilance.
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:03Chanel M.:Good morning, girlies.
0:05Clara D. N.:It's the Toast. It's Jackson Clawden. We're your hosts. It's your favorite show. The fast five things you need to know. We'll start your day off swirly. It's the Toast.
0:22Chanel M.:I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy tuesday and speaking of choices you've made one which is choosing the best damn business partner this town has ever seen well that's an intro yeah happy tuesday everyone welcome back to the toast i'm your host attorney lou
0:44Clara D. N.:happy tuesday i can't believe it's only tuesday it's only the day of the twos what it's insane What?
0:52Chanel M.:What? What? Yeah, it's only Tuesday, but that's okay. We have a lot to carry us through. There's a second leaked Subber House audio. Third. Second and third. Second and third. Second batch. Acquired. Made a TikTok about us. We have so much to do today. I'm not even concerned. We are going to make it. Oh, wait. Does yesterday count? No. We made it one show without talking about Licks Lex in a formal capacity.
1:15Clara D. N.:No, but you took out your board and made a zero yesterday. Yeah, but I was joking. It was already zero. It was already zero. So yesterday is one show without. It was not in a formal capacity. But if we continue on the topic too long, we might change ourselves. So let's just wait through. Yes. Yesterday, I would say, was National Acquired Day. Agreed. They came home from The Bachelorette. They watched the toast on the private jet. Which is so crazy.
1:43Chanel M.:The jet had a plane and they used Airplay and they streamed the toast. They wanted to see what we said about them. They made like a bunch of TikToks and pictures. like tag us we are the official podcast of tiktok okay my dreams have finally come true we're the podcast of record yes yes we are that's like a cute instagram bio because we kind of do need to change ours because of the the death because of the passing yeah because our instagram bio is jackson claude and bryson streis which is like was cute when we were just like two girls with dogs and like we are two girls with dogs but the dog in question i kind of like the podcast of record okay i'll change it so if you think that's good it's kind of but you're being so like hasty it's
2:26Clara D. N.:so crazy to change your instagram bio um you know i like change you know i like a rebrand and when
2:30Chanel M.:it feels right it feels right and the podcast of record is obviously a play on words from the paper of record which is what paper the time the new york times i don't love the comparison no i think
2:42Clara D. N.:we are the modern new york times i actually agree the podcast of record are you gonna keep the sparkle emoji or no no it's a heart or maybe microphone heart and cheers the heart's a little
2:54Chanel M.:corny and the cheers porny or corny corny i'm taking out all emojis how about that no emoji
3:01Clara D. N.:after the podcast of record i can't believe we're just like changing our instagram bio this is insane The podcast of record, period. Oh, it looks really. Wait, don't post it yet. I already did.
3:10Chanel M.:Because I want to refresh and see the new one. Oh, I hate it. I hate it. Take the period out. It looks weird. Oh, my gosh. Okay, we can troubleshoot this later. And then it shouldn't say by Jackie and Claudia. It should say with or like hosted. No, I think it's by us. I like by. The podcast by? No, it's the podcast like hosted or the podcast with. No. We have to work on it. The by doesn't work. I'm sorry. It doesn't.
3:33Clara D. N.:I like gives it a little je ne sais quoi by us. Like we're authors. We are author. We are the authors of this podcast. Because at the end we say that's all she wrote. Because we wrote the show. We are author. We are. We are. What's that?
3:51Chanel M.:Just saying. We are author. Yeah.
3:57Chanel M.:Did I miss something? You did. Did I say author? I did. and I was like LARPing myself and you just like wouldn't join in. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, we are author. Yeah, we are author.
4:10Clara D. N.:I have purse. So yeah, there's a lot to discuss today. As mentioned, we have your toasters.
4:18Chanel M.:Before we dive into what needs to be done, let's talk about us. Before we write the show. Before we write the show. Yeah, ooh, you can seriously, there is the toaster scripted. You can script comedy like this.
4:32Clara D. N.:We lost like 20 minutes of an episode. The Lost Files. And it literally was all written down and transcribed. And we couldn't have even recreated it.
4:40Chanel M.:We couldn't. No, but I actually was talking to somebody about this recently. That a lot of popular podcasts, because they are becoming really replacements for nighttime television. Like late night shows. A lot of people are hiring podcast writers. Actually, I was just having this conversation with someone. Who? Like joke writers. Right. Who were you talking to and who's doing it? I don't know why I don't want to say. Who you were talking to. yeah I don't know why like you're they're a podcaster and you might be putting them on blast
5:06Clara D. N.:no but I just I can't explain I don't want to say who told me okay but I guess that makes sense and also it's like you should make your show the best it possibly can be like use every tool in your
5:17Chanel M.:toolkit I have no issues with it I just we're on the same page like I don't want a higher writer
5:22Clara D. N.:right no it wouldn't work for us unfortunately you know yeah because I mean try to tell you guys
5:26Chanel M.:all the time we literally can't be put in a box yeah no and like we're so off the cuff we're
5:30Clara D. N.:really improv we're like an improv troupe of two like yeah second city what is like that um what
5:38Chanel M.:is like the famous improv where they like pluck people from snl oh i don't know i just know like the improv group like from like my college you know no no there's second city i think is like a chicago-based one and there's like a what's the one famous improv like isn't there a theater like the chicago improv yeah yeah second city which is like the chicago one that's a lot upright citizens brigade that's so us that's so us oh you know like one of my favorite theatrical
6:14Clara D. N.:games it's not a game it's like a it's like a game exercise exercise is a game i learned it's
6:21Chanel M.:an improv game okay i feel like we've played it on the toaster already where it's like we have to have a conversation simply asking questions and the first person to break like loses how are you i don't know how are you you can't answer it you just have to answer a question like okay
6:37Clara D. N.:oh my god i sent you the funniest thing yesterday speaking oh she's done with the exercise she's done speaking of silly things we do on the show and painful things you make me do
6:48Chanel M.:oh my god please do not bring this up because people are gonna go find the clip the kim possible thing yeah but it's hysterical mr mccorky i'm dropping out and you could just see like i'm
7:00Clara D. N.:hating that you're making me do this but yeah it was net hysterical so anyways i found a random old clip of our morning breath show where claudia and i did a bit of improv playing kim possible
7:10Chanel M.:and they were casting a live action and obviously we suggested mrs jacqueline folet for the role so of course i had to make her do her audition for us and it is so funny she's like mr mccorky you actually did a good job like that you think so yeah and i was mr mcorky and we were like
7:27Clara D. N.:role-playing on the phone and you were like the the secret agent like i don't know his name but charlie of charlie's angels like yeah like mr mcorky mr mcorky was her teacher are you sure i think mr she was in class with mr mcorky i mean it's such a brilliant performance it doesn't even matter and i think you played the role of mr mcquarie so well that you could have been either a teacher or a secret agent and that's on range yeah i did remind me and just
8:00Chanel M.:inspire me even further like the next time we do revamp our studios like which will be at some point you know we gotta keep it fresh we will also need like a third space because we used to get up and like we were more of a web show than a podcast so we would like do physical like stuff we would dance and sing and give performances we used to have like people come on like teach us to bake we had a segment in the gym like we were not a web show Claudia that's really like
8:25Clara D. N.:underselling it we were really like a morning show a morning dancing ourselves like we would have segments just like morning glory like here we learn how to bake here's some I got my ears
8:33Chanel M.:pierced on the show and the industry sort of demanded that we conform more to like the podcast format which I'm glad for because I love to sit but in our next studio wherever that may be like we will be having a third setup for activities okay we'll work out like the tech issues it's
8:52Clara D. N.:gonna be great yeah so maybe we can get back to being like a morning show and doing like kitschy stuff like that yeah very like Diane Keaton but that stuff like doesn't work on a podcast because who wants to listen to someone doing a dance even though that dance episode was the most iconic thing of all time which one asia de paolo asia de paolo says hello we have such deep lore and the fun fact
9:18Chanel M.:about our lore is that like the first year of our show which was probably the nuttiest because we had this like unlimited budget doesn't really exist on the internet because it was like owned by a different media company that like completely erased it and it would be nice like it's just like it's nice that in order to really understand our lore like you kind of had to be there from the beginning because you can't go back and watch it no you really had to be there anyway because
9:38Clara D. N.:nobody wants to go back and watch like three girls dancing from 2017 i do um but it was lightning in a bottle lightning in a bottle i was thinking of lightning in a bottle we recorded a
9:52Chanel M.:kind of a tea filled patreon yesterday we did a q a which you try to do like quarterly just to catch up with everyone it's also a good time to like it you know clear things up if you i like to use that as a platform sometimes to clear things up and this time we gathered questions we usually gather questions within our patreon community but i took it to instagram just like people get really brave with their questions on instagram so it spiced it up a little bit and we talked about some things the business of course some financials people people love to know financials talked a little bit about drama yeah drama it's on the patreon patreon.com sasha toast it was a
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10:21Clara D. N.:kind of tea filled episode yeah i would agree that we spilled the tea um how was your mage yesterday
10:29Chanel M.:uh so i played with a new group but like you know some of the same characters but new foursome i'm always switching it up you know of course and um it was great I won the first three games in a row and I could tell like everybody was done with me and I didn't I was actually really enjoying this new foursome so I didn't want people to like hate it I know so not saying I let the last two games go but I just sort of relaxed and like was on my phone yeah having a yeah and one of the girls I was playing with was new and she was probably like wow she's really good and I'm actually not the tiles were with me you know I'm not like an insanely skilled player I don't think got it
11:02Clara D. N.:That's funny. I had a similar experience where I was like, I feel like I'm winning too much in this game. And like, nobody's going to want to play. Like, it's not fun for anyone. And nobody's going to want to play with me. So I didn't throw any games. But I certainly, I stopped like trying so hard.
11:13Chanel M.:Yeah. And for me at least, like, and Ben, this is one of my toxic traits. Like, I can't just have fun at Mahjong. I have to win at least once. Just once. And I usually play for like two hour increments. And we get like four or five games. I just need one. I literally just need one. And sometimes I get zero. And it really affects my mood. I know. Like, deeply. It's really crazy.
11:30Clara D. N.:It's also crazy, like, not playing with you anymore. Oh, am I toxic? What? Am I toxic? Yes. Like, the stakes are just so much. I didn't realize everybody else could feel it.
11:40Chanel M.:Like, I thought I was, like, keeping it to myself.
11:44Clara D. N.:No, it just feels like the stakes are so much lower. Like, you win, you win, you lose, you lose. Oh, yes. That's, yeah, that's what losers say. I agree. Yeah. Have fun. I'm just saying, you have a very intense energy. And, of course, I love playing with you. But I am joining.
11:58Chanel M.:I'm coming back to Florida shortly. and I know like you've probably made new four sums without me yeah just tell those bitches you'll see them in a week our alternate
12:11Clara D. N.:never I would literally never want to like be a fifth who watches and maybe subs in oh I know a
12:16Chanel M.:lot of people play it's a four-person game and a lot of people get together in groups of five so somebody alternates or somebody has to leave early and I just want to say never invite me to a game of five people I can't imagine anything worse than being the fifth and watching four people play a game that you love like kill me i completely agree i saw the funniest tiktok
12:33Clara D. N.:listen to this okay if you are thinking about playing mahjong i need to warn you about something this is not a casual game okay you need to be willing to commit in a month you're going to have a mahjong hat or a coffee mug you're going to be asking strangers to play you're going to teach
12:54Chanel M.:your whole family you're going to want to go door to door asking people if they've heard the good news about mahjong mahjong goes too hard it's so true i literally walked past the mandarin institute on like 70th and something a few days ago and they had a big sign outside that said we teach mahjong um like american hong kong all different versions and i literally sent took a picture of the sign outside and sent it to every person i know who doesn't play because they're like i want to take a lot take one yeah what's take one i know like five teachers what's worse than when
13:23Clara D. N.:someone's but if you ask someone like do you play maj and they're like no they're like teach me
13:27Chanel M.:bitch i would never teach you like i i just taught satchel and that's because i'm related to her so and she has to love me you will see the ugliest side of me if i have to teach you mahjong like how stupid are you like i just no like seriously complicated game every time i play i have to like relearn the rules again because there's just so many of them seriously educate yourself like it's not on me to educate you oh and there's actually um like a machloquet a sort of um an issue with the rule that i would love a mahjong expert to weigh in in the comments because i'm getting conflicting opinions from different teachers and from chat let's hear it and i will say chat has the nmjl rules down like every time i ask them something they pretty much get it but i feel like they're wrong on this one for a sequence news one two three four you obviously can't call and you can't use a joker can you call for mahjong yes chat says chat says no you you can chat says no you can i just want to make sure like well there's definitely mahjong teachers listening
14:31Clara D. N.:like just let us know but like 100 you can't otherwise i'm never playing a sequence again
14:35Chanel M.:no i know when i heard that i was like wait then like half of my mahjongs have gone invalid like no i always like news you call for the w you can call you could also call on a pair for maj I know and it doesn't make sense that you could call on a pair for Maj You can call on a single for Maj Right But you wouldn't be able to call on a sequence Chat is wrong sometimes
14:53Clara D. N.:You have to like I can't Is chat the only one saying that?
14:59Chanel M.:I don't ask anyone else
15:01Clara D. N.:You didn't like look it up anywhere? Oh no Just chat Chat's wrong for sure I feel like I can say that with confidence But sound off in the comments Majong teachers
15:10Chanel M.:Well I actually watched on my morning TikTok scroll You know how they released like the first seven minutes of like random episodes of Bravo sometimes. They released the first couple of minutes of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion part two and they have literally 10 minute conversation about ChatGPT.
15:22Clara D. N.:Oh, interesting. Do you know what I just saw before we recorded? PK like went on a podcast. Yes! Like not Diary of a CEO, but like looks like it. Like a very serious -
15:31Chanel M.:It looks like Diary of a CEO with like a different host.
15:34Clara D. N.:Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I said, I think. Yeah, I'm agreeing with you.
15:38Chanel M.:Oh, great. Did you find? Okay, okay.
15:40Clara D. N.:You find as well. I found, Jackie.
15:43Chanel M.:I found.
15:44Clara D. N.:You will be found, Code Journal.
15:46Chanel M.:Don't sing that song by my least favorite person.
15:49Clara D. N.:So anyways, he's done this podcast. It's very serious, like a serious format. And he's like telling his story, his career, also his divorce, talking about Dorit. I feel very interested by it.
16:03Chanel M.:Yeah, it doesn't seem like he was coming from like a place of anger or hate. It seemed decently copacetic and in line with what Dorit has been saying now is like an up to date update on their situation.
16:13Clara D. N.:Yeah, I mean, he's definitely saying like she's changed. She's not who she was. I'm like, I don't know this person. But it does seem like net net he's most concerned about their children, as is she. So hopefully like they can both move accordingly. Hopefully. He's not just like spiraling out, you know, bottles, models and where in the world is PK?
16:35Chanel M.:Where in the world is PK though?
16:37Clara D. N.:He seems like sort of stable. So I think that's good news. I don't know. I thought it was like, not that I was like waiting to hear from him, but, and not that I'm going to really listen. I still have to listen to you on second thought, but if I did have like all the time in the world, like I might listen.
16:51Chanel M.:Yeah. I'm not going to listen, but I will enjoy more clips. So feel free to, you know, feel free to drop the clip. PK on a podcast, PK on a podcast. Like I would like them to come across. I'm not going to seek them out.
17:01Clara D. N.:The podcast is called. Oh, now I'm on the toast Instagram. While you're there,
17:07Chanel M.:change by.
17:10Clara D. N.:bye bye new fucking instagram what's new it hasn't hit me yet i just like if you search someone they give you their whole life story and some pictures oh my god not only do they give you old pictures
17:21Chanel M.:they look for maybe pictures that you could be connected to oh i searched taylor strecker yesterday i was looking for something and they showed me the fattest ugliest picture i literally
17:33Clara D. N.:it's a good way to find photos of yourself that you want to delete yeah i actually had a oh my
17:37Chanel M.:god i couldn't believe it from 10 literally 15 years ago i had a similar experience i don't know what that is they have to stop doing that make it stop now it's like instagram has also become like a wikipedia where you search someone god they take you to their profile no they give you
17:51Clara D. N.:like this ai generated bio yeah no like their life story and it's just a bunch of like random facts
17:57Chanel M.:with the ugliest pictures you've ever seen in your entire life yeah what is that i don't know
18:01Clara D. N.:Not my favorite.
18:03Chanel M.:Not my favorite. Yucky. So we do have Dear Toasters. We do have some juicy, salacious stories. I am down. I'm down to clown. To clown, if you are.
18:14Clara D. N.:I'm down to clown. Without further ado, here are the Fast Five stories that you do need to know.
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23:38Clara D. N.:Thank you, turt meat. You're welcome. No fun. No. You refused to engage with me, so. Oh, about crazy last night? Mm-hmm. So I'm just sort of.
23:49Chanel M.:So we're all being punished. No, no, you're not being punished. Of course not. You're just sort of being given the energy you give out. You know, you're receiving that energy.
23:57Clara D. N.:Well, you haven't done crazy in a while. because you've been because i've been shut down yeah i've been beaten into submission it's true
24:05Chanel M.:everybody hates my little limerick it's so harmless i fucking hate you bitches like oh
24:09Clara D. N.:no i know we can't breathe like we can't just like have a little thing have a little fun the hate on us i know it's hard it's just let it out let it out sister she's emotional
24:24Chanel M.:know it just gets hard you know like I think a lot of people don't understand no they don't
24:32Clara D. N.:our first story summer house reunion leaks two more clips leaked now the content is sort of as expected it's more of the barrage more of the defensiveness from Amanda zero from west did he
24:47Chanel M.:say one thing it's actually crazy because it's not even like the conversations that we heard snippets of are Amanda Focus. It's about their collective statement. Their collective lying to the group. It's not just about one thing. It's insane. I don't think on that second one, I heard him say one word.
25:04Clara D. N.:Yeah, I don't think so either. So they talked. And there was a girl's voice I really could not place. Not Bailey? She was like, it might have been Bailey. Because I think it was Bailey who was like, I saw you that night. So apparently there was one night, end of February, when they were all at a bar, like everyone was drunk. It's also crazy how much they like actually all see each other it's nice in the off season yeah but it's like oh kyle and jesse were at a bar with some friends and then amanda came and anyways everyone was like drunk at the bar amanda like jokingly kissed kyle a couple times at the bar they must have like been in a good place and like i can understand how that's like a funny shtick like kissing i have no problem kissing your ex husband husband um and then went home with west that night and amanda was like i wasn't kissing kyle and sierra's like you're still married and it's like there would be a difference if amanda was jokingly kissing anyone other than her husband but like to kiss your husband technically it just
25:56Chanel M.:proves how like literally by the end their marriage was so fraudulent yeah like well that was not real
26:02Clara D. N.:already separated at that point but they are still legally married so like i don't care about that jokingly but sierra's harping on it i know and she needs to let that go because she has so many valid
26:13Chanel M.:points and like i personally don't care that she was still legally married and it's true like Kyle's out here doing he's doing things when he's married like he's dating I do I actually do not
26:22Clara D. N.:care that they're legally no but like to jokingly kiss your husband and go home with someone else is crazier than like jokingly kissing Jesse Solomon and then going home with someone else you know what I mean like that's no I think it would be crazier to kiss Jesse Solomon no but
26:35Chanel M.:like that's such a joke but kissing her husband's not a joke I have like a little bit of a hot take not to be a narc but like the first leak thank you I feel like it scratched an itch I needed I couldn't wait now the second leak was so long I like sat and listened it was like three four minutes long now and they're talking about Amanda's best friend from Katie DeLuca third grade yeah and I'm sure her name would have been bleeped in the actual reunion Katie and now like we're putting a private citizen on blast I feel like now we're entering into spoiler zone and now I don't really want to hear anymore
27:10Clara D. N.:no and it's getting like to be if I have to listen to all that shit again that I found not that like titillating to begin with. Like I could enter boredom territory.
27:21Chanel M.:Yeah. And I think that maybe the person who recorded them.
27:24Clara D. N.:And like beating a dead horse territory.
27:26Chanel M.:I think the person who recorded them is now like bitter because they've been fired and maybe they were just like going to get that one leak and get away with it. But now that they've been fired and they have like genuinely nothing to lose, they are releasing more.
27:37Clara D. N.:Yeah. I feel like I don't really want to listen to them anymore. I almost didn't even listen to two and three because they were hard to come by. They're getting taken down. Yeah. But then someone sent it to me. So I was like, okay, let me listen just like for the toast.
27:47Chanel M.:No, and like Andy put on Radio Andy this morning, like talking about the investigation and how they're like actively working with Bravo fan accounts to not post it. Like that's so lame.
27:57Clara D. N.:No, and he also said that it was like a Bravo fan that helped them crack the case. The case, which does track. And that like we're going to learn more about the situation.
28:07Chanel M.:I don't really care, to be honest. Like you don't know it's not a cast member. Well, we know it's not a cast member. So my interest just sort of ends there. I don't need the name of like some random audio engineer who like that name is going to mean nothing to me unless I went to high school with him.
28:21Clara D. N.:You know, he said, even though his team of investigators were on it, it was a Bravo fan who you're going to hear more about who cracked the case. And great. Now we're going to have some like some crazed fan on a podcast or something like I'm good and delivered crucial information. It's like Monica all over again. Yeah, I don't need this. Like this is just getting weird. Just give us the reunion. OK, yeah. I wonder if they'll also take out some of these bits now because I think that they will and that they could. I'm sure they had a really long, like hours long conversations. I'm sure the same things were said over and over and like just choose a different one.
28:53Clara D. N.:So it feels new.
28:55Chanel M.:I do think that these leaks are a window into the approach that Amanda and West individually took. They clearly were not a united front. The fact that they left together feels weird because if I'm Amanda, I'm mad at West. like he goes the silent route in every clip he's barely speaking which is not a bad road to take like you can only get in trouble so much if you don't say anything Amanda's taking like this very defensive route not coming in and that's what Jesse said on Watch What Happens Live was that like there is hasn't been this like you know deeply apologetic apology tour forgiveness accountability no they're like sort of indignant no and their their whole thing is like I'm sorry
29:35Clara D. N.:but like what did you want me to do like okay I could have handled it better but like this is what was happening I didn't know what to do you don't hook up with him and also this in the last few weeks and months it sounds like from like the timelines and the photos and what's everyone's saying like they're just like all drunk and drinking and like hugging up like yeah it's not love this is not serious they said that night at the bar February 28th like Wes was too drunk to
29:56Chanel M.:even speak like that's your love that and that's who you went home that's who you can't help but That's also like unethical. It is. Sorry to go home with somebody who can't even speak.
30:08Clara D. N.:Yeah. I'm just saying the roles were reversed.
30:10Chanel M.:I just want to say like, that's what people would.
30:11Clara D. N.:It's not like Romeo and Juliet when you're seriously blacked out.
30:14Chanel M.:It's true. A thousand percent. And like Amanda, you know, speaks a lot that about her weed use. Oh, and a lot of people, I saw people talking about how your Amanda has been really open with her mental health journey. And you're really not supposed to smoke weed when you're taking taking medication like that and that like maybe maybe she's having because she is acting like so
30:36Clara D. N.:out of character like I just think we don't know her character yeah yeah I don't know what her character is and is not because she's never been put in a situation like this before the clip was
30:48Chanel M.:also just reminding me of Vanderpump Rules where like nobody can speak during Scandavall reunion like nobody can speak everybody's attacking and it's like I do want to hear from Amanda so if everybody could just like shut up for a second like I want to hear what this crazy person has
30:59Clara D. N.:to say and Lindsay like starts to say that at a certain point like I love everybody's saying such a mom such a mom like yeah because you do have to like deliver this reunion correctly like we do need to have the flow of conversation go accordingly where everyone can like say their piece and when everyone just starts in together like no no that's not gonna work so we can't interrupt
31:18Chanel M.:like every second of Amanda like she has to be able to say something yeah and you can combat that but like it has to be a conversation and that's why like people like Bailey and KJ coming to Sierra's defense like I love but Jake it's really not about you so just like hold on yeah hold on like
31:34Clara D. N.:because we just need organization conversational organization there are tiers of like who gets to
31:40Chanel M.:speak the most Amanda West and Sierra are tier one and Kyle Kyle is too no Kyle's tier two sorry
31:47Clara D. N.:I know that he should be tier one but he ain't Kyle's connection to Amanda is no I know that stronger than sierra's connection to west sorry it's it's actually not i know like maybe emotional maybe in terms of how much one likes another but in terms of like history like that's his family
32:05Chanel M.:okay fine he can be on tier one even though he's hanging on by a fucking thread okay tier two jesse solomon
32:16Chanel M.:maybe just jesse solomon and lindsey because i respect her and i want to hear what she has to Or like Mia, like, uh, uh, uh. No, no, sorry. Everyone else, like, they were there, but they aren't longstanding members of this dynamic, first of all. And it doesn't sound like they were there physically. Okay, Bailey was there once.
32:34Clara D. N.:Like, it would be Paige if she were there. Oh, of course.
32:38Chanel M.:But I'm sorry, like, everyone else, I just, unfortunately, I need you to take a backseat. That's why I think it's even crazy that Levi was there. Like, we don't need one more person chiming in, and she wasn't even on the show. It's really crazy to hear.
32:48Clara D. N.:Levi can be on namesake. write it down i'm just wanting you guys to know like namesake is shaping up to be like the show of a lifetime like give namesake the pulitzer it's brilliant it's giving keeping up
33:02Chanel M.:with sports like a podcast that never gets released i just like i have a lot of like
33:06Clara D. N.:dreams for like things i want to do in my not a lot actually i have a very short list of like dreams things i want to accomplish in my career work that i want to put out there and namesake
33:14Chanel M.:is on that list you need to know is it actually because i just want to say it doesn't sound like a very good podcast aside from the fact that like we're only sitting down with people whose names we either share or they share with like members of our family um beyond that it just sounds like a boring interview show with levi from summer house it does but like it's just such a great
33:35Clara D. N.:angle like we can't we can't have everyone but beyond the angle like what is there but it's like it's the angle it's the angle and i think of course i think it would go to show like the power of a name chilling chilling and there are ways to like open it up to have like we could never have amanda on because we don't have anyone in our family remotely named amanda but there are other like we have aunts and uncles and cousins like we could have a lot of people on the show inadvertently you know like i could have kyle on the show because zach has a brother kyle
34:16Chanel M.:oh yeah okay okay i don't care like we couldn't have west on i'm not really moved we could have
34:24Clara D. N.:jesse we could have jesse isn't it fun it's like you don't get to choose who comes out like it chooses you because like you don't get to choose your family the power of a name and you don't get to choose your name right anyways levi is our inaugural episode great can't wait and charlie pooth oh and we could have teddy swims because of theo oh yeah it does apply posthumously and bruno mars yep yeah so it really it has range i do think that bruno mars needs to go on a podcast
34:56Chanel M.:he like has never really done one and people don't know him maybe that's how he maintains like a good sense of self, like boundaries within the industry. But I kind of would love to hear him on like Armchair Expert.
35:09Clara D. N.:Yeah.
35:10Chanel M.:Or The Toast, of course.
35:12Clara D. N.:I feel like this would be a fun one for him.
35:15Chanel M.:Cause your sex takes me to bed. Yeah, your sex takes me to. What's your favorite Bruno Mars song?
35:22Clara D. N.:You know what? Like I love like Locked Out of Heaven. So good. So like some of the early ones are just like they go so hard. Like Treasure. fucking treasure i was gonna say finesse that's like a sleeper hit
35:39Chanel M.:it don't make it don't make no sense like he's so good he's a crazy one he's wild and um okay so back to the leaks that's enough yeah i i'm i'm calling it and i don't want to keep
35:50Clara D. N.:listening people keep sending it to me like i don't i think now i just want to be surprised before i'm like over it before it even starts yeah and justice for that girl katie yeah well Well, they just said it would be like hooking up with Katie.
36:03Chanel M.:No, and then apparently there was a phone call with Katie DeLuca and Kyle. I think that's how Kyle found out.
36:08Clara D. N.:Yeah. But she didn't do anything wrong. She seems fine. And is she the one that's on in the city? Amanda's friend? Oh, is she? That would make more sense. But is she? She probably has more than one friend.
36:21Chanel M.:Katie DeLuca. And at this point, I don't know if she does. Katie DeLuca. Oh, yeah, she is. All right, so that's fine. Okay. Are you ready for our next story? Oh, she's pretty. I'm just like, I think this is the wedding in Italy that they went to and where they met Ben. That makes sense. And her husband's last name, and I guess now her last name is Arendelle.
36:47Clara D. N.:Arendelle. That's nice.
36:50Chanel M.:Yeah.
36:51Clara D. N.:Wesselton.
36:56Clara D. N.:From Frozen. From Frozen. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Some sort of adjacent news. One of the craziest headlines we'll read here at the Toast.
37:05Chanel M.:Oh my God.
37:06Clara D. N.:Dr. Dre holds hands with the Valley star Michelle Sinai on unexpected date night. So Dr. Dre and Michelle Sinai from the Valley appear to be dating. The rapper 61 and the real estate agent in reality star 37 were snapped holding hands at celeb hotspot Nobu in L.A. on Saturday.
37:24Chanel M.:it took me about 45 minutes to actually compute what my eyes were seeing like for the image to go into my retina and translate to actual logical thoughts in my brain because it took me a second to be like wait who's that because I haven't watched a valley in a little while and I was like wait who's that and I it it's like somebody dating an alien like from a different planet I just I was shocked I I was shocked and then part of me remembered like how much I fucking hate her ex-husband so I am living for this because I just know he's in hell you think so yeah people on the valley are obsessed with like low-level celebrities that they are and I feel like a lot of the storylines are always talking about like other people like they said what was the celebrity connection whatever they're just obsessed with fame and for her to be out here with like one of the most legendary billionaire yeah i hope they get married i hope they get married also in the
38:26Clara D. N.:first season like he had started rumors that she like had a billionaire boyfriend or whatever i wonder if this is who they were talking about or she just like has multiple billionaires in her phone wait that's a really good call because then they said she was like an escort yeah but i don't $15 a month. That's not true. No, no, no, no. But like she was conversing with a billionaire like years ago. And I just wonder if it's the same one or if she just like can pull multiple billionaires.
38:49Chanel M.:I hope so. I would love that because then it's like also the guy, you know, she told you not to worry about. Yeah. But then also. I hate her ex-husband more than I hate anyone on reality TV. I think he is evil.
38:59Clara D. N.:Did you see this old clip of Sheena going around? No. Saying that Dr. Dre is her hall pass. Sheena. And then Brock rescinded it because Dr. Dre was actually coming around. Like they were in the same room as him and like Brock realized it was actually a possibility. So he was like, no, rescinded. Oh, so obviously this is the billionaire. I don't know why is Dr. Dre like so in the periphery of the valley stars. Like that's where this story sort of makes no sense to me. This is like a legendary, historic, iconic.
39:36Chanel M.:Like there are so many beats by Dre, like billionaire. His music, like his musical impact is like decades long. And he's hanging out with the kids from the valley. Like I just, I'm so confused.
39:49Clara D. N.:So confused. But I do hope they really make a go of it. Like I would like this for her, you know?
39:53Chanel M.:Yeah. And Isabel needs like a billionaire stepfather.
39:55Clara D. N.:I also thought Michelle was like dating Lala. Lala. We never close the circle on that. It's giving queer baiting. No, I think if we just watch the season, like we would maybe get some answers. And I do like want to watch the season because like my favorite person is back on television. I just like have a lot going on right now. And like, you know, we're like sleep training and it's just, it's hard. It's hard to watch TV.
40:16Chanel M.:Yeah, I feel like it's just like weird that like you're still riding so hard for Lala.
40:25Clara D. N.:Why?
40:26Chanel M.:You're loyal. It's nice. I am loyal.
40:28Clara D. N.:But why, like what happened that I wouldn't? No, nothing happened. I just feel like there's not that much to like stand. Like I like her personality. Yeah. She's like a dedicated mama. She hasn't like done anything that's like in Congress with the person that I always liked.
40:43Chanel M.:Correct. So it's like so random. Like your favorite person on reality TV.
40:48Clara D. N.:One of. Yeah. Yeah. I mean she just hasn't been on TV that long. So it's just not as fresh unless I were to watch the Valley. But like I just know she's going to get like she'll be my favorite again. She's going to she's going to give them Lala. She's going to give them Lala. Like I just think she's so great. No I admire your loyalty. I actually really do. And like when I ride for someone, like don't take that lightly. You know, I don't just. It's true. I don't just throw my weight behind anyone. And you can know that. Know that.
41:14Chanel M.:Also, people are now circulating the clip of Alala. I don't know if it was on like a Bravo after show, but she really believes that she is the reincarnated spirit of Tupac Shakur. Okay. And Dr. Dre is actually like a former comrade. Maybe he could attest. Mr. Shakur. Maybe that's how they all connected.
41:30Clara D. N.:Maybe like, no, but maybe he could like meet Alala and like let her know if he sees his old buddy it's giving tupac yeah that's funny yeah um okay well we'll keep you posted on this
41:41Chanel M.:on this burgeoning coupling ship like seriously get the get the labor get the like get your hammer out we're building a ship and we're gonna say we're setting this to see yeah it's setting
41:52Clara D. N.:sale we're setting sale it's a big one because he's a billionaire so you got a big boat i'm obsessed with those when i was reading the jim walk caption like
42:06Chanel M.:i couldn't have come up with a random a more random pairing i love if i asked chat gbt to generate like the most random couple you think i've even chat cut it she do ask chat no like
42:18Clara D. N.:it's perfect this is perfect i know i sometimes you just have to let the chips fall where they make they're even more beautiful than you could have arranged it's oh i love that i love that are you ready for our third story yeah sort of like another amazing celebrity coupling ish Angelina Jolie just and Giselle Bryant pose alongside their daughters as they attend a sorority event in Atlanta I saw the daughters and I'm obsessed with this um so Giselle and
42:49Chanel M.:Angelina Jolie's daughters are in the same cell from the real houses of Potomac not Bundchen I Oh, first time when I was reading the headline, I was like, wait, what?
42:58Clara D. N.:Giselle from Real Housewives of Potomac. Her and Angelina Jolie's daughters are in the same sorority at the same college. And they're not the same age, but they were taken in a photo together for their sorority, which is now like going viral because it's literally Angelina Jolie and Giselle. And which child of Angelina?
43:18Chanel M.:Zahara. Oh, interesting. Okay.
43:24Chanel M.:I love this. Like this is where Bravo is really the intersection of so much culture. Because obviously like the daughter, they're all like Nepo kids. But she's more so a Nepo because of her father than her mother. Right? But we know it, of course, from the Bravo angle. Giselle's daughter? Angel? Yeah. I would say like Jamal is more famous than Giselle. Well, it depends who you ask. It does, of course. But I think like if you were to zoom out like on in terms of like, yeah, I would say Jamal. yeah well like and i think that like his daughter probably runs in these fancy circles
44:00Clara D. N.:more so because of him yeah but i think she runs in two big circles now like she has two different whole worlds legs in different universes yeah she has access to like two completely different worlds
44:11Chanel M.:and i just don't know why i'm surprised like angelina jolie's like kids would be in sororities because i feel like they're so like off the beaten path you know and sororities are like so
44:18Clara D. N.:well sororities have like different vibes at different schools they both go to spelman and And so I'm sure the sororities are like very, you know, storied. And it's. Yes, HBCU. It's like, it's so different. Like from Beyonce's homecoming. Yeah. And there are other schools that have like, you know, like supper clubs like that. Just sometimes it's not just like Greek life party. Like sorority. Yeah, it's not what we think. It's not what you think. It's like really a group of women. Sisterhood. It's a group of women. A sisterhood. Yeah. And some schools it's like, if you're not in the sororities, like it's, that's the whole.
44:47Clara D. N.:Well, there goes your social life. Or like NYU.
44:50Chanel M.:I didn't know a single soul. Or there's zero.
44:52Clara D. N.:You know, so every school is very different. I would say Greek life is more personal than comedy. It's true, it's true. I forgot that this was an HBCU.
44:57Chanel M.:Yeah. Yeah. And I think it's, like, historic, like, I'm sure, you know, Giselle was in this sorority, you know, like, she's a legacy or something. Exactly. Yeah. It's giving Sydney White. I, like, first of all, I hope these two are friends. Maybe they were in the same sorority and didn't even, like, know that the other existed, and now the internet is bringing them together.
45:16Clara D. N.:Yeah. No, it's hysterical. This photo just is so pargy also. Giselle is like this is a huge slide for Giselle. Yeah. For sure. Super cute. Extremely. Are you ready for our next story? Yeah. Our fourth story. A little Taylor Swift wedding update because why? Oh, what were you?
45:39Chanel M.:She's also like featured in this huge New York Times video series. This like 30 minute video. They're doing like a thing about like the greatest songwriters and she's one of them. And so she did like nothing major. There was no like. yeah she's like talking about her songs and her songwriting and how she writes songs and just
45:53Clara D. N.:like you know the journey i thought that's what you're talking about like writing for songs of writing uh yes no but wedding bells so it appears as though the july 4th date is the date of the wedding michael rubin has moved his party so it doesn't clash with her wedding page i just want to say i don't know if i believe this you don't believe what that if he's moving his party it's
46:18Chanel M.:because of Taylor's wedding one he didn't even have his party last year so I feel like the tradition has been broken that if he has it another weekend it could be for any reason well
46:27Clara D. N.:it's meant it says it's going to be Wednesday July 1st so still July 4th weekend but not but like if you're going to the wedding you could go to both the only other reason why I don't know if this is necessarily true is like even here there's like a list of guests that like they don't cross frequent and they don't cross it's very much like the Kardashian Tom Brady's not going exactly
46:43Chanel M.:Exactly. Kardashian's not going. Right. Taylor's like the most famous. And I feel like it may be like the people who are coming are also dropping like flies. Like Ryan and Blake aren't going. So it's literally Lena Dunham. I think she's marked safe. No. Haim.
46:59Clara D. N.:Going to what? Lena Dunham you think is going to the wedding? Of course. Why? I thought they're not friends. No, they are. She's not friends with Lorde anymore. But she got Jack in the divorce. You think Jack and Margaret are going to go be with Lena? I don't think so. I do.
47:12Chanel M.:I don't think so. I do. I think, yeah, Jack and Margaret will be there. I do think Lena will be there. Haim will be there. Lana Del Rey. Selena. Lana Del, maybe. I feel like they're more work friends, you know? Yeah, but you might be your work friends. Lana Del Rey. Like, Joshua Jackson. Like, the most random people, you know what I mean?
47:29Clara D. N.:Why Joshua Jackson?
47:31Chanel M.:Because his, Jodi, his wife was in the music video for.
47:34Clara D. N.:Oh, right, because of the Graham Norton show. Graham Norton. I think Graham Norton. Also, Travis has a lot of friends. Totally different circles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, so there would be a lot of celebrities from Travi.
47:47Chanel M.:Pat and Brittany, of course. Andy Reid, of course.
47:52Clara D. N.:Who else is he friends with? Corey Gamble. Justin Timberlake. Justin Timberlake. Corey Gamble's not invited. Like, it's not even a question. You're out. Justin Timberlake will be there. And also Taylor is friends with him. It will be a really good state of the union to see who they're both still friends with. Because like, I know that she has said also that she's having a huge wedding.
48:11Chanel M.:Like it's not like the guest list is not she's not being precious about it. So if that's the case, like we will really know. It's not like we can say, well, it was a small wedding.
48:19Clara D. N.:Yeah. I know that her and Kelly like aren't friends anymore. Who? Kelly Teller. Oh, yeah, they're not. But like it would be crazy if she's not at the wedding. I just want to say. She's not going to be. That's crazy. She was her date for the Golden Globes like two years ago. Best friends. So that's crazy to me. that's crazy work and like travi likes miles i know i feel like a lot of taylor's like beefs
48:48Chanel M.:do sort of get
48:53Chanel M.:what's the opposite of like when you dead like deactivate like neutralize yes neutralize by travi right like it's like not that serious because travis is friends with the brother and
49:03Clara D. N.:it's all good isn't that classic husband wife stuff you know like the husband maintains a decent relationship where it's neutralized yeah so it will be very interesting and it will be a
49:14Chanel M.:state of the union on who on her celebrity friendships because there are question marks and there are a lot of you know like you said jack antonof sabrina carpenter will be there for sure um jack antonof lena dunham there are oh zoe kravitz harry styles yeah you know i read a report so just take this with a grain of salt that they're getting engaged because he has like baby
49:33Clara D. N.:fever he really wants a baby I saw that they want a baby does she have kids I don't think so and I
49:38Chanel M.:wonder if he wants a baby because he's been really inspired by my mama content because he does follow me on Instagram you know yeah maybe maybe it just feels like everybody on his Instagram you know like classic is having a baby that's really cute I know I hope they do I would love that I hope they do have a baby me too yeah I need more people to have babies just so they can like write music that like I'm like able to relate to.
50:01Clara D. N.:Yeah. Oh my God. John Mayer actually gave a very funny interview and said something very funny.
50:06Chanel M.:I would love John Mayer to have a baby.
50:07Clara D. N.:So he, I forget where that he was talking about this, but let me pull up the article because he was talking about this. He does a radio show. So maybe on his Sirius XM show. He was talking about his hit daughters. And he says like in hindsight, the song was actually like very selfish. He's like a 23 year old, like telling fathers how to parent their daughters so that they grow up to like be better girlfriends to him, you know?
50:28Chanel M.:yeah right it's a crazy song and it's crazy that it's like the most popular song to dance
50:32Clara D. N.:with your dad to at your wedding and it's like record of the year he said what was a 24 year old boy telling fathers he said he admitted the reason for writing the song was very selfish quote I think I was thinking in very circuitous and clever ways that it was really about me a young guy so selfishly upset that he couldn't be with the woman he loved because he thought that her father must have had something to do with it that's actually like an insane song yeah I'm surprised he hasn't been canceled for that but then he said and this is what you were just saying He said, when you're young, that's young logic and it plays really well in songs.
51:00Clara D. N.:It just does. Come over. I know we're horrible for each other. Come over type of young. He then joked how older logic can be harder to write songs about. Like, had a tough day. Coped with it. It's a tough. He said it's a tough song to write. Had a rough morning. Took a look at the bright side. Got a good phone call later. Reminded myself. What was I worrying about?
51:21Chanel M.:Well, it kind of sounds like John Mayer needs to have a baby. It'll be endlessly inspiring for him in the studio.
51:26Clara D. N.:Yeah, but it is funny how like, you know, sound logic.
51:31Chanel M.:No, being healed is not interesting.
51:33Clara D. N.:It's not art. Like it doesn't make for good art. Yeah. However, you should live an ordinary life so you can be violent and original in your work.
51:39Chanel M.:And I think Taylor Swift is definitely a testament to like you can do it. I feel like she pulls a lot from like movies and TV shows because her life became like sort of, especially with Joe Alwyn, like monotonous in a sense. Like just six years of.
51:52Clara D. N.:Well, it sounded like it was sort of like a tortured romance in hindsight. and now yes and she's able
51:58Chanel M.:to make music about it now with like the perspective of hindsight
52:00Clara D. N.:but people make the argument now and it's an argument I do not agree with but I will just platform it that like T Loas wasn't was a flop a success because she is happy and happy people like can't make good art I disagree because I think the songs
52:14Chanel M.:on T Loas about her being happy are the better songs yeah Honey Got a couple of kids
52:22Clara D. N.:got the whole blog looking like you I would also, I would say there are good songs on T-Loss. I think the album. As a work of art is not. And the album imagery does not jot with the songs. Like it just. And the way it was hyped up was not what we got. You know, 12 blank spaces, Bob City. Yeah, I blame Travis for that. Travi. Not Travi ruining the album. Literally. Are you ready for our fifth story?
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58:31Clara D. N.:Our fifth and final story, Verity trailer dropped. Anne Hathaway and Dakota Johnson play seductive mind games in the Colleen Hoover thriller. So we've got our first real look at Verity. Very, very spooky. I don't remember it being that much of a psychological, like thriller mind games like I but I read it a very long time ago well I don't want to spoil
58:54Chanel M.:anything but yeah like because of what you find out at the end it does make the whole book feel like was it's like it's like one of those books where it's like are you hallucinating or is somebody gaslighting you like so it does have that element yeah this trailer looked really good and it also takes place in this like remote mansion very much like the shining it looks very good And it actually looks like really like adapted almost to a T. Yeah. Like I remember the bite marks on the headboard, like little things like that. I don't even really remember so much the premise of the book, but everything I saw in the trailer, I was like, oh, yeah, that's from the book.
59:30Chanel M.:So it seems like they're adapting it quite closely. Yeah.
59:33Clara D. N.:I'm excited to watch it because I read the book so long ago. I love the book, but I've forgotten a lot of the details. So I feel like I'll be watching a new thing and I can enjoy the movie, whether or not it's close to the book or not.
59:44Chanel M.:And it seems like the first movie from Colleen Hoover's work that's like not being it's like it ends with us that reminders of him looked like a lifetime movie. Like all of them have been like really corny. And this looks like a movie that's a real movie. Like it looks serious. It looks kind of like Gone Girl level of just sort of psychological thriller. Yeah. Whereas everything else. I mean that and then that Alison Williams one. She did one where they get in the car crash. Like it was just they all are so lifetime movie.
1:00:12Clara D. N.:I just saw like a weird clip of that on Instagram. It was like, you know how sometimes they post movie clips and it's like, yeah. What was that one called? Into the Woods.
1:00:22Chanel M.:I don't know. I don't know. There have been reminders of him. And it wasn't reminders of him? No, no. What was it called? Regretting You. Yeah, yeah. Classic. Like, you know, two people's spouses get in a car crash and it turns out, why were they
1:00:36Clara D. N.:together? They were having an affair. So that's what I saw in the clip. Just the hospital scene where it's like, wait, why are you here? Why are you here? I saw that too. Why are you here? Why are you here? They were both in the trash and they were together. I'm like, oh my gosh. And they're obviously having an affair.
1:00:47Chanel M.:Yeah. I don't know if I read that book. I did read Reminders of Him. That's just sounding good. That was one of the last books I did read of Colleen Hoover because I was like, okay. I think I've aged out of this. And I don't know why. I just feel like all of them have been sort of, even It Ends With Us, which was pretty good. It didn't feel like a serious film. It just felt like a kind of commercial corny film. this one between Anne Hathaway and Dakota who are just like both like really high level actresses it just feels like it could get you know a golden globe now yeah I agree it's up there
1:01:17Clara D. N.:I'm excited comes out October 2nd so whether you've read the book or not I feel like everybody's really gonna like this movie it reminds me of Gone Girl as well where it's like a huge book even bigger movie if possible and Anne Hathaway these days like really does not do something
1:01:30Chanel M.:that's not like I feel like when she is involved in a project you're almost entirely sure it's going to be really good she just has a good picker so i'm very excited and i don't have any you know when you read a book you feel like you can like criticize the movie a little bit i don't have any feelings like i feel excited and i think i think it's in good hands i think so too and i'm happy
1:01:46Clara D. N.:for colleen hoover who hopefully like has a win under her belt and like isn't traumatized from
1:01:50Chanel M.:the movie industry yeah because so far she's striking out obviously it ends with us and then
1:01:56Clara D. N.:the other two are just like the other two i think like actually are not a problem i think it's better to have a movie that's flops not flops but just doesn't like go crazy versus what happened with with it ends with us which could literally have like thrown her whole career yeah let's dive into dear toasters are you ready our weekly advice segment every Tuesday Jackie and I like to help
1:02:18Chanel M.:out our community if you guys ever want to write in please send us a message to your toasters at gmail.com or head over to our website the toast podcast.com where you can write in about anything that's going on in your life wedding drama work drama best friend drama family drama we love family drama. We're going to try and help you. We try to give sound advice. If you aren't open to either you being the problem or your husband being gay, don't write it. Hey, Jackson Turd. I'm getting married in July. My family's not religious, but my fiance's family is Catholic. My dad asked if we could have a memorial set up at the wedding for my late great grandmother who passed away in 2010.
1:02:50Chanel M.:For context, my dad grew up in a very abusive home. My grandmother took him in at nine years old. She was the only motherly figure he knew. I'd love to have a memorial for her, but But my dad is requesting that we bring her ashes. Like reserve a chair for her ashes during the ceremony. Have a memorial table for the reception where her ashes would be placed after the ceremony. My fiance and I think displaying her ashes in a way is going a little too far. Do you agree? Any advice is appreciated. Yeah, I agree.
1:03:17Clara D. N.:Yeah, it seems like, and I love your dad for this. She sounds like an amazing woman. Like seriously, they should write books about her. Agreed.
1:03:26Chanel M.:I do feel you on the ashes just being there is like a step too far. It is still your wedding. So you're absolutely allowed. But I do agree like you should, you know, but it's not your dad's wedding. Like it's your wedding. And I'm sure she was a great woman to you. But like his like wanting to honor is for what she did for him.
1:03:44Clara D. N.:Yeah.
1:03:44Chanel M.:And it's like it's not his wedding. Maybe he should get married.
1:03:46Clara D. N.:She passed 16 years ago. It's not like, you know, she just passed and she was almost here. Right. She almost made the wedding. She came to your fitting. Like a lot of people have passed. you know we didn't have our our father at our wedding we didn't make a whole big thing you know you're making a speech you're like and dad would have been proud you just throw it in there and even having a chair in the front row that just says reserved that's very taste but it's also a little bit it's an urn is nutty it's also morbid like this is a celebration of life and of the future and we don't need like constant reminders so I like the idea of honoring her in some way but it's not a funeral that is sort of morbid and if it doesn't feel right to you don't do it don't not do it because of what his parents are going to think like what feels right
1:04:30Chanel M.:to you I do think that this is extreme what does this woman also mean to you it's not your dad's wedding so like if she was a really important figure in your life and you want to honor her for you like you know people have little pictures sewn into their veil like there's so many sweet things you could do in earn I agree is really nutty um but what about you like do you care to honor this woman like in big or small ways if you do there's a lot of really beautiful ways people honor loved ones yeah if you just want to do it for your dad like okay she can be mentioned in the speech or like just yeah not to be like rude but what does she mean to you yeah I feel like a
1:05:09Clara D. N.:lot of people get married with people having passed and like they're I've not really heard of like a chair like i don't know it just i haven't heard of that either but i think the urn is no a chair sounds like a sweet idea but it's kind of a big thing to do you know it's hard to get a chair at a wedding too like oh that's a place i'm always that's like me i'm always looking for a seat yeah so i don't know you don't don't feel like you have to like make this whole thing like a tribute to her it's not what it's meant to be agreed agreed with the utmost respect i say that
1:05:42Chanel M.:We have a little bit of bachelorette party drama. Hi. Is it acquired?
1:05:45Clara D. N.:Is it acquired right again?
1:05:47Chanel M.:No, but if your friend was an influencer, you wouldn't be in this situation. So everybody should be friends with acquired. Ready? Hi. Okay, so I was invited on a bachelorette party for one of my good friends from high school. I paid for everything up front, but something came up for my family, and I'm ending up not being able to go. I texted the maid of honor and said, don't worry about getting me my money back. I don't want the other girls to have to pay extra because I had this last minute thing.
1:06:06Clara D. N.:That's tough.
1:06:07Chanel M.:The day of the trip comes and I find out that they invited another girl to take my place, which is totally fine, but she's going for free. Oh, absolutely not. Because I've already paid and she's going in my place. Absolutely fucking not. Is it wrong of me to think that this is absolutely crazy? They found another girl, didn't tell me, and didn't give me any of my money back. That's rude, right? I didn't want my money back to help the other girls, not for someone I don't even know to go for free. Absolutely fucking not. You're 100 % right. This is insane.
1:06:30Clara D. N.:That is insane. You were so generous to have left your money. Beyond. Because it's true. they would have to pay more if you pulled your money out you wouldn't even be wrong if you did it very mature of you like that's very big of you but um you got another person to go that doesn't mean that someone gets a free trip it means you get your money back this is not like make a wish
1:06:50Chanel M.:like you were doing a nice thing and they're taking advantage of you I don't know how you bring it up um you definitely don't bring it up to the bride because like this is not her problem
1:06:58Clara D. N.:but no sorry you like bring it up to the bride and whoever if there's someone in charge but typically the bride's in charge I mean some people have their maid of honors running the show No, I think typically the maid of honor is the one who does it. Not in our situations. Like, if you have an issue with my bachelorette, like, bring it to me. It's not, I'm just a bride. Like, I can handle a little conflict. I completely agree. It's not like I just returned from war. Don't bring it up to me. No, the freeloader owes you money. Yeah, bring it up to the bride. I don't know why people act like brides, like, can't be spoken to.
1:07:24Clara D. N.:Like, they have too much underpriced. Like, she's just going on vacation for a party.
1:07:26Chanel M.:And also the bachelorette party is, like, months before the wedding.
1:07:29Clara D. N.:She's going on vacation for a party she's having. She's going to be okay.
1:07:35she's going on vacation for a party it's true like to celebrate a joyous occasion like she
1:07:41Chanel M.:can handle stuff yeah some of the other girls like the single ones don't bother them with this they have a lot going on okay it's true like they're the ones who have like so much on their plate yeah i ever find someone the idea don't bother the bride like she's literally having
1:07:56Clara D. N.:the time of her life no and she's the one like being you know carried off into the sunset yeah no and she knows all of the people here like the maid of honor might know not know you that well that's true the new girl but like the bride knows everyone very intimately so like definitely raise your concerns to the bride and just let her know like you were happy to leave the money if it meant people had to pay more if someone's coming she would like her to pay you for your trip i can't
1:08:20Chanel M.:believe you even have to explain this this is where situations are so frustrating like if everybody could just act like a normal human being and that's like just very logical it's so wrong and like to take advantage of your kindness like that was really mature and generous of you yeah you sound like a great girl i love like i love you i'm sorry yeah but yeah i'll say something send the girl a demo request yeah yeah our third and final dear toasters is upsetting I hate when you say that
1:08:50Chanel M.:It's like Okay Hey sexy mamas I love that she calls us that It feels heavy And she wrote sexay S-E-X-A-Y Hey sexy mamas My husband has been begging me To make homemade adult films With him for many years And I've always respectfully Declined for numerous reasons I'm camera shy It's not my cup of tea I'm deathly afraid of someone Seeing it etc The most recent reason is because I'm 13 months postpartum with my first baby. I'm not feeling anywhere close to my best physical self, yada, yada. He has fantastic pictures of me pre-baby to get him through the tough times. But he recently claimed that those pictures are not enough.
1:09:25Chanel M.:A few weeks ago, I noticed him acting strange after we had sex. He was immediately looking at his phone and I had a gut feeling that he had recorded us. I asked. He said no. Later that night, I checked his hidden photos, which is a folder where he keeps my steamy photos. And he had, in fact, recorded us through the indoor security cameras. I confronted him and he said, I just really wanted something of the two of us and you would have made me delete it am i overreacting by feeling weird that he lied and recorded it without my knowledge i feel like we have sex a normal amount i don't feel like he's suffering without it should i be grateful that my man wants to watch videos of me instead of videos
1:09:53Clara D. N.:on the internet sincerely an insecure toaster oh my god i feel really nauseous i know i hate to have
1:09:59Chanel M.:to tell a woman especially a woman who's 13 months postpartum that you're married to a sex offender but you are no i'm sorry and this is just the beginning a crime this is just the beginning This man has no respect for you or your bodily autonomy. This is so bad. Like, this is so, so, so, so, so bad. And.
1:10:20Clara D. N.:Like, no one needs to have videos of you guys having like the idea that he's like made you feel like. Like to get him through tough times. Did he give birth? No, but it's like and you're having sex with him. Like, what's the tough time?
1:10:33Chanel M.:Yeah, this is really bad. not only is what he did illegal it's enormously unethical and this is supposed to be like your man your protector um this man has no respect for you I'm sorry and I hate him like so much and I think men who do things like this like this is just the tip of the iceberg yeah um and I feel like there's been not saying that that your man does this but there's been this sort of um like cultural revelation since the gisele pellicott thing right like people realizing that their husbands do these awful things either to them they monitor their online activity like you know i said to ben the other day because you know i feel like when you become a mom you become aware of like how um normal pedophilia is like everybody's everybody every every second i said ben you know like one in five american men i made up some statistic i'm like you know one in five american men is a pedophile or like engages in some sort of pedophilic activity like i read that somewhere once i don't know if it was one in five maybe it was like one in ten whatever and he was like you're so crazy i'm like i'm literally not and i feel like once you open your eyes to like most men there's something sinister whether it's yeah the pedophilia thing this is i don't even know what to call this this is um it is a form of abuse yeah um you have a bad husband i'm sorry to be the one to tell you that and I feel like it might take you a few years to realize like maybe you think we're being dramatic because like you sound like am I being I am maybe I'm just being like sensitive no you have been like your husband has committed a sex crime yeah and he's making you think that like maybe you're overreacting or like maybe you know you should have done it but you're just like insecure because you just had a baby I don't care if you had a baby 15 years ago if you've never even had a baby like you have a bad husband you have a dangerous husband I imagine if you monitor his other online activity and yeah this is so bad like this is so recording somebody having sex without their consent it's like not only a crime it is the worst thing somebody can do like to their partner yeah um and i will help you with the retainer for a lawyer absolutely you just send me uh an email like this is insane yeah
1:12:48Chanel M.:yeah hate really bad and i feel like maybe you need it's like hear from someone like you need the perspective that like this is maybe like in the in like the pit of your stomach you know that like maybe this is really bad or like you know makes you feel like it's normal like of course
1:13:01Clara D. N.:i just want to see a video of us like you know for the tough times like shut up like the tough
1:13:06Chanel M.:times like you just had a baby and you're still having to shut the fuck up why don't you shut
1:13:10Clara D. N.:the fuck up and rub my feet okay and they're still having sex so there's like not tough times
1:13:15Chanel M.:correct no like marital like yeah I hate your husband like he's a bad guy yeah I'm sorry to like end on that but that's dear toasters thank you to everyone who wrote in and as always you can email us dear toasters at gmail.com or head over to our website the toast podcast.com dear toasters well the place looks beautiful it always
1:13:39Clara D. N.:does it does it anymore
1:13:42Chanel M.:it does I will not let like the sex offenders and pedophiles of the world ruin the beautiful place okay okay but i just think it's important that like everyone just remember like almost like everyone's a creep don't trust anybody that's what you need to remember don't trust anybody yeah that's such a bad like no no okay just keep your eye out okay yeah don't think like these things can't happen to me like so many men are so bad like they're so evil like i hate to be one of those like men hating podcasts but like i feel like so many people so many people people but in this category like it does typically trend now yeah like women can be pedophiles and sex offenders absolutely
1:14:29Clara D. N.:but they're not like they're usually not no no they can be yeah they can be yeah it's possible
1:14:36Chanel M.:not probable we see stories all the time
1:14:37Clara D. N.:like of like teachers and what not
1:14:40Chanel M.:yeah but we more so see stories of male teachers yeah thank you guys so much listening to the Toast the Melodian Morning Show where we deliver the fast-paced stories so you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube so you're watching us on YouTube please hit the subscribe and give us a video a thumbs up we're also available as podcasts and our podcasts we found so that's Spotify Apple and Spotify yeah and YouTube wherever you listen to podcasts find us at Toast leave a five-star review about how beautiful standing and wickily talented we are hope you guys have an amazing day and we'll see you tomorrow for Hop Day!
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