The Poorest Kardashian: Wednesday, April 16th, 2025

0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy hump day don't forget to tell someone you love speaking of somebody i love and somebody who is like seriously always humping me i have to like literally call the police to get her off of me it's jackie oh and speaking of the most truthful person i know that's me never tell a lie it's cojers wojers in a jean jacket tell us about this cojers you know this thing that you do where you like just acknowledge what i'm wearing you have to stop we have limited options that I do where I see you yeah like just don't don't address my clothing like the options are so beyond limited these days like for you to even like talk about what I'm wearing is hurtful okay so just fuck off okay okay even though jean jacket is a classic and all-american look I didn't think it was like even like so crazy but whatever I didn't think I didn't think it was so crazy that day I wore a vest it was you didn't think it was worth mentioning well I'm just always seeing you and when you have it something different like you're wearing a pad like I just can't I'm wearing a pad today too oh yeah no you you can always see me so why don't you just close your eyes okay and enjoy my eyes but you've been wearing a pad every day since the great pad experiment of 2025 I wouldn't say every day but I would say a lot of days okay so like it's a success yes it's an improvement now I wanted to apologize for briefly ending yesterday's episode you know how it genuinely pains me to let down the dtq like i i would cut any segment before i cut deer toasters like i take it really seriously so you just know i had to have been in like a bad spot and i really was and i was not gonna share you know but the story has a happy ending so i will share i've had a really rough couple of days like seriously so physically unwell it's just really crazy the expectation that like pregnant women are supposed to like survive on no sleep.

2:18I've never experienced a sleep has always been a priority for me. I've never experienced a life with like weeks of no sleep. It's crazy. And it messes with you physically, emotionally, mentally. And I really was like having a bad couple of days. And I'm like, there's no way the rest of pregnancy is going to be like this. Like, I'm not fucking okay. And I had an acupuncture appointment. Literally, I had an acupuncture appointment. I'm like, not this bullshit. Like, I was about to cancel. I'm like, I'm not going all the way uptown. I was so tired and I was like on the verge of tears everything was like making me want to cry and I went and I was so annoyed when I left because when I got out of the session I realized she didn't put any needles in my pinky toes which is the pressure point I'm going to acupuncture to flip my baby okay so I went all the way uptown to flip the baby and she didn't put any pressure points I'm like oh wait do we not do that every week she was like we do but you were telling me she asked me how I was feeling before and I just like I almost started crying like I unloaded she was like so I thought we would tackle that and I have two appointments every week so the other appointment can be for flipping baby when I tell you I left with tears in my eyes I was so mad I'm like I did not just waste two hundred dollars and so much of my time to not even flip this fucking baby and I told her that like I can't sleep my legs are killing me I'm up all night I pee every two hours I wake up drenched in my own sweat so whatever I get home Ben made me feel better he made me dinner I had a little um I can't say because I had a little humming it's like that was the other thing i haven't eaten a proper like you didn't have sausage and peppers no ben made sausage and peppers for himself i haven't had like a nutritious meal so i'm feeling weak like everything and i was just like fuck it i needed a fucking meal okay what'd you have so i didn't have i didn't have bread and that's like i'm not having bread agreed i'm not having bread but i had egg noodles because i wanted cottage cheese like i thought that would be good protein for me like that's fair i'm sorry i needed it and i actually felt a lot better afterwards like And it's made of eggs.

4:08So like it's not. Yeah. I thought it was like a good little loophole. Yeah. So, you know, Ben helped me. We got new pillows. I went to bed and I woke up.

4:22I'm actually healed from every single ailment that once befalled me. I was in shock. I woke up to pee. Usually I wake. I fall asleep at 930. I wake up to pee at 1130. I fell asleep at 930. I woke up to pee at 4.30. I'm like, oh my God, did I die? What happened? And then I usually can't fall back asleep, but I'm like up at five. Went back to sleep until eight. And as I'm waking up, I'm realizing I didn't choke on my own vomit, which I've been doing all the time. My legs weren't aching and cramping. And this is the first morning, probably in the last eight months, that I haven't woken up drenched in my own sweat.

4:58And I was like, there's no way. Because I'm doing acupuncture, but obviously I have a healthy amount of skepticism about it. I don't think, I actually believe in it, but I think people who have cancer and go for acupuncture, that's crazy. I think, yeah, there are certain things, but I don't know, I'm a little skeptical. Call me a believer. First of all, I don't have any heartburn right now. I feel amazing. I can't get over it. Wow. No, no. Jackie, it's the craziest thing. I'm so happy for you and the magic of the East has been so - The magic of the East. It's been so happy. So when I woke up, he was like, I'm so glad you slept.

5:34What do you think it was? He like thinks that because he makes me take magnesium before bed, like that it helps. I'm like, I take it every night and I have shitty sleep every night. So just because it was tonight doesn't mean anything. He was like, it was the manganese, the manganese. I'm like, no. And then I'm like, wait, acid reflux. She did a pressure point for acid reflux, for my, my temperature running hot, for my leg cramps, like, and sleep, all the things. And I was like, Ben, I think it was the acupuncture to hear me say that. Like he's never loved me more. You know, he always wants me to believe in like the magic of Western.

6:03So kind of big announcement today. I'm transitioning you know I've kind of had an obsession with becoming Latina over the last year or two I am leaving that part of myself behind and I am fully diving into Chinese culture Chinese medicine Chinese traditions because the way this has like actually saved my life I could if I was still going I wouldn't have been able to come to work today I understand well I'm so happy for the job and for the show that you're here but you don't think for the show you don't think that you slept like just having so much peace of mind knowing that today spritz would be available everywhere you don't think that's what it was no honestly if if I'm being honest I probably had a little bit more worry you know this big launch day weighing on me our commercial hitting the streets like I I had even more concern and more stress and I had an even better night's sleep so what does that say about the power of acupuncture yeah it's very very powerful but I do think we can sleep well knowing now that spritz is available everywhere which is our big announcement of the day Our commercial dropped this morning.

7:01We were talking about our big commercial. And I feel like it lives up to the hype, you know? Oh, my God. Like, yeah. It's giving Mary-Kate and Ashley. It's giving Disney Channel. And it's giving accessibility for Spritz because now it is available in Target nationwide. Right. So go Puff and Target. You can get Spritz literally in your state, like challah. And then also, of course, our regular retailers. We're in Whole Foods. We're in H-E-B. and actually something nobody's even talking about is you also in the select markets can get same day delivery on spritz. That's major key. Thanks to the magic of GoPuff.

7:38So check that out. Get a spritz. Let's all celebrate. Claudia slept. I slept. It's a cause to celebrate. It is and if you support women you'll have a spritz. Definitely because it's a female founded business. And I just want to speak to, I need to get on my high horse for one more second and then I promise we'll talk about something else. I want to speak to the woman out there who is pregnant and being like, who feels like she's 39 weeks and six days pregnant. Like there's no way she could go on one more day like this. But you're not. Like you still have like a couple of weeks left. Book an acupuncture appointment.

8:12$200. I would have paid$2 ,000. It is worth. Have your friends. Everybody wants to get you a gift. Tell everybody Venmo you$50, okay? You're just going to acupuncture. No, like, no, it's expensive. Like go. So it is life changing. Do you think there are, and by the way, I've been seeing a lot of acupuncture propaganda in a positive way. Like, you know, it's positive. And I'm a believer and I want to try it. But do you think there are acupuncturist practitioners who are quacks and like they don't know what they're doing? They're just like sticking needles in you? Yes. And so that's why I feel like for this particular thing, like sometimes it's okay to cheap out and like go to like a massage parlor that's a hole in the wall because a rub is a rub, you know?

8:51Yeah. But this is needles. Yes. I like my place is fancy. It's actually like a doctor's office. Yeah. I think you got to go fancy. I agree. That's what I'm saying. Like it's expensive, but it is worth it. Exactly. Dirty needles. No, thank you. No, no. That's for the layman. Even though like one of the pressure points was like where like where you slit your wrists, like literally right there. It felt like I did not like it. I'm like, what is this? Well, I'm not complaining anymore. No, I'm not complaining. I'm really happy for you. i'm happy for me too i also then had the you know um energy to watch the valley watch real housewives of beverly hills part three we have a big chunky tv recap we do which i'm excited about not i watched the valley as you guys know i've never seen the first season but bravo put together this like 25 minute recap of season one on their youtube which i watched and i felt like i like knew everything and i called jackie to like chat about it and she was like talking about people i'm like wait who's that they literally weren't in the recap Janet wasn't in the recap barely Zach wasn't in the recap barely but I I know them like I know their faces from social media and just like being a Bravo fan uh that couple whose daughter is on Young Sheldon Naya and Danny they were not in the recap once that's insane so your recap stunk because then I had to recap it for you and I'm really excited to recap the valley to see what you think about people I'll let you know if you're right or wrong based on season one did you see Chris and Jodi wearing a good guy's hat Last season?

10:21You mean a year ago when I watched? Oh, was that a flashback? She was wearing it this season? Yeah. In the first episode, she's sitting at someone's counter wearing a black hat. I missed it. With the Good Guys logo. I missed it. I'm just so used to it. They're so ubiquitous. Yeah. I was actually shocked. I was like, ah! And Ben was like, what's wrong? I was like, look. It was really jarring. She's so ride or die. That is really funny. One of the great fun facts about Hollywood is like Kristen Doty and Josh Peck are like such good friends and they have been for years. I wouldn't put the two together.

10:52Never. Well, we'll get to the TV recap during the TV recap. Other than that, we have stories for you. We have a lot to talk about today, actually. Time 100, most influential. We do. I also have an admission. I did admit this to you privately and I appreciate you. You didn't even bring it up on the show to try and embarrass me. But you could have. I need to say what I've been doing. What? I even as of this morning as recently as this morning I have been getting ready listening to Sam Hunt oh yeah I I'm gonna add it to the list if I may with yeah I also will add pads while I'm here yeah sure I add the pads uh as you guys know I have like long stood against Sam Hunt and everything he stands for like I could acknowledge that there was a time and place where he was making really good music and was well on his way to being the next Morgan Wallen and I bet he looks at Morgan Wallen and wants to vomit because like that literally should have been him um but with his you know grotesque personal life choices i just couldn't get behind him and for some reason like i really started to hate him like more than i needed to more than the usual dui yeah he became the face for me of the dui movement like everyone else you've forgiven it doesn't color how you speak about them now except for sam hon like because you just wanted to hate him for other reasons dui or no dui 1000 and i think a lot of it had to do with the way he like talk sings that also makes him easy to hate um and jackie was recently talking about the song 2016 and how like it makes her cry.

12:14So I was like, sure, I'll put it on. And then I ended up like listening to Sam Hunt for an hour. Old music. And I forget how much I used to listen. Like I knew the whole Montalvo album, you know? Yeah, we got Montavello. We were all there. Whatever it's called. And then the new music, like, okay, Sam Hunt, I see you. You've got a cold heart and a cold hard truth. Like, let me tell you, I am woman enough to admit when I'm wrong. I know everybody thinks like I'm not like lively, like she'll never admit it. Like, no, I can admit when I'm wrong. It will take me years. But I'm a patient person. And I'm here.

12:48And Jackie didn't even bring it up because I told her this like a couple of days ago and she was shocked. I was just going to let it be your like your private guilty pleasure. My big secret. I didn't need to air it out. I'm just like happy more than me wanting to be right. Like I just want you to listen to Sam Hunt because I think you would enjoy it. And you do know me extremely well because I did enjoy it. I'm so, so happy. Did you listen to his new song Liberty? I don't know. I didn't like look at the names. You would have if you heard it like you would have skipped it because the beginning is like kind of slow and he is talking but then when you get into the rest of the song it's so good I have to shout out Shannon because she posted about it and I was I would have skipped over it because of the beginning but I was like okay no Shannon said it's really good so like let me give it a minute and it's so good it's new from like another piece of work that I have been diving into I don't know why I've like had a lot of time to like maybe during like exercises and stuff by the way did you know that Spotify was down this morning and I was trying to listen to Spotify in my bathroom and it was being like it wasn't connecting and I thought it was because I was on Bluetooth in the in my living room and then my phone was being slow and I was like maybe Spotify's down I was like okay your phone's broken like Spotify's not down then I'm going for stories daily mail wait why is that so crazy you said it's so crazy like because like wait by the way I just like I had the thought that Spotify was down because mine wasn't working and I'm like no you just your Wi-Fi is it's hard not to like make everything about yourself like it was for the whole world Spotify was down I had to listen but I to Apple music radio I listened today on Spotify completely fine what time no when I was getting ready probably 8 30 9 30 it was working then I was that's when I was listening in the living room but starting at 9 30 it stopped working I was unaffected by the Spotify outage could affect the podcast today just of course shit yeah now you care of course now I'm personally affected yeah and I was well another I listen to Apple Music Radio, Claudia.

14:37Damn, why don't you just like download Pandora while you're at it? Sit with that, okay? Well, what I have been sitting with. I've been through stuff. And I know everybody like was mad at me for sleeping on it. And I, once again, I'm here to admit that I was wrong. I totally slept on, what's the album called? Deeper Well? Casey. Yeah, what's the album called? I think it's called Deeper Well. I knew Deeper Well and I knew The Architect and that's pretty much it. but I listened to the whole thing front and back at um acupuncture yesterday and let me tell you it's par delicious now I know everybody knows that I just want to say I didn't say I never said it was bad I never like spent time with it so it took me a while to sit on it Spotify's down I would tell you what the album's called but Spotify is down oh my they need to get it together before we have to upload our episode like actually not cool they hate to see women in media succeeding um I didn't realize that you had slept on that album yes like almost completely except for the hits the architect it's called deeper it's called deeper well what i would tell you my favorite songs from the album but spotify's down i guess we'll never know we will unless we happen to come back to this conversation one day maybe like in a year i feel like we actually have the same conversations like every year on the day you know no i feel like we're uniquely creative and original of course there's always something fresh but like i do think like how you sometimes look at your time hop and you happen to be wearing the same outfit you wore a year ago today yeah very cosmic energy yeah like there's just something that the season that has us talking about like Casey it just is and also she tweeted something and so she's in the news like just saying is she in a story today uh I think I had six I was whittling down to five she might not make the cut that's okay I I don't know about her tweet we'll see I'll decide during the ad so it'll be really kind of like a suspense a game time decision a suspenseful experience for you guys will we talk about Casey or will we not stay tuned will they won't they stay tuned for that Oh, wow.

16:30Okay, so Spotify's down. Turdy's up. I guess you'll be listening on Apple Podcasts or YouTube today. You know what? If you are a listener, an audio listener who is being affected, I mean, you probably aren't hearing this because you can't get the episode. But if you are, like, let me encourage you to move over to YouTube just for today. I really think you're going to like it. We put so much effort into our video. I'm wearing a jean jacket. Like, you have to see. My husband brought up a box of spritz this morning to celebrate the launch. Like, you wouldn't even see that. I'm sitting next to a part of your product of pink lemonade that matches my sweater my shoes and my ipad and my frames and your studio yeah you wouldn't know that you put that on like fun facial expressions we have a really good time over at youtube so I know it's not for everyone if you're on a train you're not gonna be you know you should stay alert you know look and keep on a train I feel like you could no on a train it depends where you live not a subway but like yeah it depends which train but like you know you got to be aware of your surroundings you're walking to work you can't be like you know you're walking no no so don't endanger yourselves but maybe let this be the push that you need to watch on youtube and of course subscribe while you're there and some bitches who watch every day like feel free to subscribe feel free to subscribe but like it actually makes no difference where you choose to consume us as long as you do like seriously oh my god i'm so glad you brought this up i need to we need to make an announcement there are rumors swirling about us give it to me coach that we have raised our patreon price oh my god and i totally forgot to announce this i totally forgot to announce this on the toast like so our patreon has always been seven dollars and 99 cents seven dollars and 99 cents always always always always always and as of last month if you subscribe to patreon via an apple product like an iphone on the patreon app apple has now begun to charge you like a 30 fee so it's like 11.99 now so people think we have raised our prices we have not we have not making more money uh what you can do is good on your computer, go to patreon.com.

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23:36No, or Ed Sheeran and Scarlett Johansson. Meanwhile, Taylor Swift is not on the list and she's just like so obvious. Right, but I also think you have to agree to be on the list and like sit down for some sort of interview, no? Yes, someone interviews you like a famous person. They like nominate you. So here are some of the people who are the most influential people that you have heard of, okay? Ed Sheeran by Chris Hemsworth. Sure. He's not non-influential, but he's obviously doing a lot of press right now so he was very excited no I don't feel like he was particularly influential this year honestly honestly I think he plans to be I think he has big plans for the year he has his new song the time 100 is like things you already did like we all have plans I plan to be influential this year influential like every song he drops goes to number one like that's influenced sure okay cool I'm so influenced okay next Scarlett Johansson by Chris Evans okay sure if you say so yeah okay um Daniel Day Kim by J.J.

24:35Abrams I don't know who Daniel is but I know J.J. I know Daniel he's from Lost and that's why J.J. wrote about him okay sure if you say so it's just like Hollywood Chris this is the artist category Kristen Bell by Ted Danson you know what I wouldn't put her on this list but when you think about it she actually is really influential like no i'm sorry princess anna is incredibly influential but also her tv show this year was like widely watched and and the other one it's a good place right which is why ted danson wrote it actually i think that's like a good choice yeah that's fine that one i agree with adam scott by nick oferman severance i also agree very big rashida jones by amy poehler They, like, that breed of, like, female comedian, that genre, like, they're never a bad choice.

25:24Yeah, like, sure. The Maya Rudolph, Tina Fey. Sure, but it's like, if she dropped a lipstick, how many people are influenced to go and buy it? Well, I guess it comes back to, what does the word influential truly mean? I'm sure somewhere in these articles it's in there for Times definition. And I took a brief look at the list and actually didn't see any influencers. Yeah, like, Alex Earle's not here. Kim Kardashian, Kylie Jenner, they're the most influential people in the world, So if they're not on your list. I actually don't think that they are. I think at one point they were. Who is? Who's the most influential person in the world?

25:56Among. It doesn't have to be. Like give me someone. I wonder what AI would say. Okay. Who's the most influential person in the world? Well, I think Trump. No. Well, you have to think like, no. Because world. Like Blackpink, you know? Well, Rosé is on this list. Oh, by the way, they break it down by category on AI. But she's in the pioneers category. She's not on the artists, which I thought was interesting. They must have ran out of space. Okay, this is actually really interesting. This is who they said. In the political, they said President Xi, which I completely agree with. And Joe Biden. Today?

26:36Yeah, like, it's kind of crazy. Technological influence, Elon Musk. Cultural influence, Taylor Swift. And Lionel Messi, Lionel Messi. Okay, Lionel. That's a good one. Like, I don't know his name. It's not Lionel, right? No, it's not Lionel. No, no, it's Lionel. You're lying. I'm like almost 100 % sure it's not Lionel. Okay, that's a good one. And then philosophical and social impact, Pope Francis. Yeah, yes. The Pope is the most influential person in the world. I feel like that's a safe choice. Let's narrow it down by social media reach.

27:17they're gonna say selena gomez honestly i don't trust them christian anto ronaldo yeah that's what i they're just they're just going by who has the most followers tiktok kabi lame oh my god i just read something about kabi lame i think what happened do you know who that is yeah of course i just like read a brief on him like about his rise to fame and now he's like no nothing disappeared yeah it's really crazy i didn't i never heard of him but it was like some i don't know probably you never heard of probably lame no not before i read this ai generated tweet it was like a tiktok thing but he made the most like very simple content like reaction videos reaction videos and literally had a became the most followed person on the platform was a you know um i got a huge campaign with hugo boss like then a lot of controversy did he well one like people were saying like how is this person the most followed like he's not really doing anything like he's just like kind of taking other people's content and then like yeah but that's the internet i don't i never saw people have a taking issue with that that's what the ai generated tweet said and then oh i can tell you ai's lying oh and then he was fighting with charlie d 'amelio's fans well okay so this ai tweet is like there there's no nuance in this tweet he just he did surpass charlie as like the most followed person at one point so of course it's like the charlie demiliators were like but copy lame but like there wasn't real drama no oh okay well ai thought that there was but honestly i'm gonna say like ai is not the foremost authority in this conversation because i know it because influence is like it's not a tangible thing like it's very human yes and like you could have more followers but be less influential so ai only sees numbers it's true one day they'll get there but today they're not the authority then nicole scherzinger by patty lapone what okay thank you for that reaction that's crazy i know she had a big year like she had a really successful broadway show but like i'm sorry that's crazy kristen wig by marielle heller i'm not sure what she did this year in particular i'm not saying she's not an influential person i'm not but i am saying she's not 100 global no hosier by noah Khan I like it I like it I don't miss I wouldn't do it but I like Hozier and I he deserves his flowers and him and Noah Khan make a lot of music together and they had a lot of like huge hits this year yeah do you know someone named Miranda July feels like I don't know okay by Molly I don't know who that is um then icons Demi Moore by Ryan Murphy okay I mean it was a big year for her but again she's not a highly influential person thank you so they're getting confused with like success and influence Jalen Hurts by Derek Jeter yeah that's a good one oh I love by Derek Jeter Adrian Brody my king yeah like but he's not influential it's like to me more like does he even have Instagram who are you influencing and how yeah no I guess if he makes a movie people will go see it no and to be clear like there are more than there's more than one way to be influential we obviously see influence through the lens of social media which i think is like a huge category you can have influence in other ways like they always put like a malala on here and she obviously is not like raking up the instagram followers but she has enormous influence um i don't think that in hollywood like traditional hollywood which is why you and i are like most of these people carry a lot of influence you can be very famous and very a lot of recognizable very successful but that does not mean you carry influence but like i think someone who is an actress who doesn't have an Instagram who carries influence would be like Jennifer Lawrence like when she makes a movie people are gonna go see it Zendaya yes um David Muir by Diane Sawyer classic David Muir took me a second to remember who that was Bobby Brown by Charlemagne the God the makeup how do those two know each other I'm sure I could click it but um we don't have time for that but literally who cares yeah but that is interesting then leaders um and so you have everyone here kia starmer claudia shinebound not to be confused with you president mexico trump my former people elon jd vance howard lutnik megan kelly i don't know who howard is he's in the government now uh rfk yeah that's feels right noah argamani our queen feels right former hostage yeah and i feel like when they do these lists and they put anyone like israeli on it they have to also like put someone else to like balance it out like i'm sure that that person is on this list there i'm just over them because i don't know who they are yeah um but i'm sure that plenty um javier malay the Argentinian president.

32:07I don't know if you've seen him around. I'm not familiar with his work at all. Shocking. I don't follow him on Instagram. Next category, Titans. So people who didn't like fit into other categories. So they're just like random. Oh, I would think Titans would be like business. Of industry. It's a little everything. So Serena Williams, I would say she's Titanic. I would say she's extremely influential actually. And she's extremely Titanic. Oh yeah, I forgot we're talking about influence. Influence. Blake Lively, Titan. I mean she did launch like a thousand companies this year um but in terms of yeah she might not be the right category but yes she like was influential this year do you know what I mean no I'm not offended and I think her a little bit of her brief by Sherilyn if it'll focus on her a donation charitable work yeah yeah um Ed Bastian who's that again oh the CEO of Delta he plays on the TV every time you get on a flight that's influence no he is so classic I only know his name because of the in-flight entertainment lauren michaels by will ferrell influential influential there you go and it probably doesn't have instagram but we can look past that right capable simone biles definitely by allie very influential cute so cute mucia prada by boz lerman honestly that's a great selection because mu mu like this year was the year of Mew Mew like every all the young hot things like everybody wants to be Mew Mew Mew Mew and so like good on them for like actually like recognizing that yeah Ted Sarandos by Shonda Rimes that's good CEO of Netflix yeah of Netflix influence um Joe Rogan by Mike Rowe duh like if you don't have it on this list like you're not taking this project seriously that's the definition of someone who influences others the textbook definition of influence of influence yeah thousand percent um mark zuckerberg yeah i guess he makes himself more powerful i don't think people like hear him talk and are like wow i agree but i think like he's very powerful like which is a form of influence bezos where's jeff no i'm sorry powerful is a for power is a form of influence but where's jeff bezos then i don't feel like i feel like you well i guess elon's on it yeah all the billionaires are on it jeff bezos is always getting left out of stuff that's why he started blue origin like he's always kind of being forgotten or maybe he doesn't pitch himself for this stuff even though i don't believe that for one second he loves this no you know those billionaires they have like the biggest egos it's this shit like this is all they care about yeah honestly his absence is glaring next i didn't think so but coming off the heels of the blue origin all-female passenger crew like you're right and like i don't think president she is on here he should be right his absence is glaring even ai said he's number one um pioneers rose by lily collins cute apita this is like you feel like this list is meant to be global or yeah definitely because there's a lot of names that i don't know i i think it's meant to be global global like with a touch of global but maybe not entirely because then it's this is an american publication but uh they definitely want to capture global sentiment um tons of names i know in this category but Miles Smith by Shibuzi and they just dropped a song together that's so pargy he's a singer who's Miles Smith he's a singer that Margo loves and then he dropped a song with Shibuzi who I love so we've really it's really brought us together as sisters okay I got it so we're getting down to like the sort of last licks of the list innovators Snoop Dogg by Hoda cute Hoda Nikki Glaser by Ali Wong absolutely well deserved incredibly influential this year Yeah.

35:44A lot of other people who I don't know. And that is all. All right. Well, oh, it's not. No, no, no. Sorry. That's just from Cat in the Hat. Oh, I guess like Joe Rogan is the only influencer, but it's actually really crazy to not have more more podcasters, TikTokers like because that is influence. Obviously, it's not the only form of influence, but there should be at least a category for it. Yeah. Like I would say Theo Vaughn is more influential than Demi Moore. I actually agree. I think Theo Vaughn, that's a great. The Smartless guys. Yeah, yeah, but they're so like, Adrian Brody took their spot.

36:22They're not competing with Joe Rogan. They're competing. Well, that's the other thing. So there are people on this list who have, you know, traditional trades and skills like acting or singing who also do podcasting. And that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about like podcasters by trade, Theo Vaughn. Yeah. So there you go. Hope you feel. Once again, our industry constantly being looked over, especially when like, I think we can all agree that the 2024 election was like greatly decided in part due to the influence of podcasting so for like our industry to be left off completely besides Joe Rogan which like obviously like you have to I don't it's insulting yeah but also the tiktokers the influencers the instagramers I'm talking about like the internet in general yeah they should have picked like one person from each platform so if they want Joe Rogan to represent the power of podcasting that's fine by me fine Alex Earl to represent the tiktokers or even Nora Smith Yeah.

37:12I don't think she's as influential as Alex Earl. No, I think she is. Really? I think they're definitely on the same level. Really? And they operate like kind of in different spheres. So like they really coexist quite nicely. Oh, yeah. I don't even think of the two. Because what I think of like right now, the biggest people on TikTok, not in terms of numbers, just in terms of like who we're talking about. Yeah. It's like Lucky Blue and Nara and Alex Earl. Okay. yeah I would have taken any of them me too no not a Kardashian in sight yeah that's crazy give us one yeah yeah or just say the card or Chris they love Chris Chris they love her Titan Titan yeah well our next story is actually about the Kardashians and something that we were talking about yesterday because Khloe Kardashian revealed who gets paid the most for their Kardashians so Khloe Kardashian has really jumped into that yeah has really jumped into the podcasting world headfirst these days she talks about it on the show she stopped a bunch of episodes she went on call her daddy in yesterday's episode and alex asked chloe if it's true that you and your sisters are all paid the same amount for the kardashians and she said true and i'm like an egalitarian you know like yeah i'm mad for certain people like actually right now like i don't even think i think that courtney getting paid the same as the rest of them of them is like actually fair She has put in the years of work and now she's taking time like to be a mom.

38:40And I think that like that is completely fine and allowed. But like Kylie. No, the thing is, low-key, Kourtney gets, it probably goes like Kim and Khloe and then Kourtney and then Kendall and then Kylie in terms of airtime. No, Kourtney. Kim and Kourtney, Kris. Oh, I'm taking Kris out because she gets 10 % of what like, I'm just. Wait, so does she get an even cut and then 10 % of everyone else's? I think she gets 10 % of the deal and then gets her cut. so she makes more than everyone oh definitely and they talked about that on this season like how she still takes 10 from all of them she should she absolutely should no she totally should but no courtney actually films a lot it's not the way that she used to like sitting around talking about their feelings but like she shows a lot of stuff with travis she shows her family like maybe it's not people's favorite stuff to watch but like she contributes no but even this season like she did not even do solo confessionals she only did confessionals with kendall yeah no all I'm saying is like in terms of I feel like Courtney had like significantly less airtime this season and I think that's completely fair I think she's like earned the right to that whereas like Kylie has I guess consistently taken her piece of the pie and never once really made an impact or like been a main character not one season ever I wonder why they're okay with that I feel like in order for it to work like they have to be paid the same but it also makes it impossible to not be resentful yeah and kim is so like business business hustle hustle hustle like you would think this would bother her because like if they start getting into like okay i was in 60 of the show so i get 60 and you're in 10 so you get 10 like it gets like kind of like nasty and petty and some people could argue well my 10 is more interesting than your 30 but so yes they should be paid the same but like why don't they demand that kylie do more And I'm saying this as someone who wants more Kylie.

40:33So I'm saying it selfishly. Like get in there. I'm saying it as someone who's like, I'm just like a big fan of things being fair. Yeah. And this feels unfair. And I'm surprised that they don't talk about it more. And I guess like of all their revenue streams, like this probably isn't the biggest or the most important. It's just like one of the things that they do. And that's why it's important that they all have their own big things. Skims, Good American, Kylie Cosmetics. But it would bother me. and because Kylie is so wealthy like if it was for the poorest sister who like wasn't doing who do you think is the poorest sister Courtney well no now she lives in a dual income home yeah Kendall no why why no she gets like big fashion contracts like a lot of them like I see her every like long chomp 50 100 million dollars well then she does a lot of commercial big ones like coach and L 'Oreal okay and that's hundreds of millions because the girls are making hundreds of millions.

41:26I would guess that Kendall, she became the international face of L 'Oreal Paris like a year or two ago. I would say that that was at least a$50 million contract. And that's one of like the couple of things that she does. I know, but that's like not a lot compared to like what Kim's pulling in. No, Kim and Kylie and I would say Kourtney now really, I mean, excuse me, Khloe, Good American is like really, I think that it's not a question. It's more about who's poorer, Kourtney or Kendall? Well, definitely, well Courtney with Travis right that's the thing Travis like is very successful and then Kendall does 818 but does that make her money yet oh I'm sorry I forgot about 818 Courtney's the poorest sister because you really have to think about it like all of them they do with like social media stuff brand deals and it all pretty much nets the same but then they all have their individual companies and I would say all of them are extremely successful Push is probably the least successful lemmy courtney oh fuck i forgot about lemmy lemmy's very successful um actually i would argue lemmy's doing yes yes i would say lemmy's probably um lemmy's crushing it oh shit i don't know courtney was definitely the poorest sister for a while yeah before but then lemmy and before she got married yeah yeah but i'm just saying like if the person who was doing the least also happened to be the poorest sister like i i can i can understand why you of course and i wonder i I wonder if do they pay Rob from the show?

42:47Not that he's on it, but like. Which Kardashian sister makes the least amount of money? Jackie, I thought the same thing about Rob and I actually think that they probably split it with him too. Yeah, because he started the show with them. And he doesn't work and obviously has his reasons that they all really understand. Right, and it's not like Chris is like seriously paying his bills. Like I think they give him like things. As of 2025, Khloe and Kendall have lowest reported net worths each estimated to be$60 million. No. Kim and Kylie have, you know, billions. They are not 60 million. No. And what about Kourtney?

43:24She's not in this thing that AI generated for me. It can't be 60. Sound off in the comments. Who do you think is the poorest Kardashian? So who's your final answer? I actually don't know. Like, I thought I knew. I get, no, 818 is really successful. more successful than good American. And who's bringing, like, is 818 have to sell in order for her to make money? Like, does she actually? Well, yes. Yes. It's all about like net worth, right? Like what is 818 worth versus what's in her bank account? I'm talking about worth. Worth. I don't know. I really, I'm stumped. I guess it's good. They've all really found good niches for themselves.

44:07Yeah. But like, I was like, even with the way that they live, they all live at like the same level. So I really don't know. Yeah. except for kiev and kylie who have planes correct so well the mystery continues i guess at the end i'm just in shock that they all were there any follow-up questions chloe like does that not bother you a rapid fire q a oh damn and then she was rapid fire leaves no room for nuance no it was like just true or false so she said true thompson and then in a follow-up question alex asked if she and her family members who are also executive producers are allowed to cut any footage that you don't that they don't like for sure and she said yes but it's more vanity things that we would cut like yeah I guess if you don't like how you look she said that Courtney actually asked for the most cuts because of how much she says like which is funny and oh I love that and it's funny because like the final edit like she still says it so many times yeah you can only imagine how bad it really is yeah I mean the struggle is real with that I feel like we've gotten a lot better We've gotten a lot better, but we've really practiced and we do it every day.