The Rise and Fall of Nikki Blonsky: Monday, March 24th, 2025

31:58Unless the American Dream Mall paid them millions of dollars to do this. I was talking about it all weekend. So when I brought it up to Ben, he didn't care. And he's like, maybe the mall, because it is one of those billion dollar malls, maybe the mall paid them even more. Okay. So say the mall paid them$20 million. Divided by three after taxes. I'm sorry, to make a couple million a day. Okay. that's pretty good actually yeah I really I found the whole thing so confusing and that's not to say it was a bad event it actually looked really pargy I agree and if I'm like if I'm a big fan like a diehard fan and I get to go like and they're playing into every joke every movie they made they're not shying away I love that but this is seriously just not something you do at not they're not at their peak I would say like when they came back they had like a year where they were really peaking but they're still like an extremely relevant like they have hit songs and cool right they release new music constantly they're very cool they announced all these projects joe's releasing a solo album i'll like really never understand stop the solo yeah i know stop yeah just take your best songs yes i'm on the group album and stop agreed i mean but imagine having to split stuff three ways like that's tough no i already like lament over having to split shit with you i know but the thing for them that they need to know is like you make five times more when you're doing it as a job or a strip split it three ways the math maths 1000 and like it being in new jersey like a homecoming like i get i get the whole thing yeah i just don't i have questions i don't i have questions yeah so maybe someone who has insider track if you work on like the marketing team american dream like just or if you sound if you work on like the jonas brothers like business management team like do they need the money i don't think they need i don't think they're in a desperate situation i think this might have been like a huge payday and who would say no to that or this is their way because they did cancel like a big part of their tour for some reason remember yeah but maybe this is a way of like giving back to the fans fans by doing a zonas con in new jersey that's so sweet jackie i'm genuinely looking for answers here i understand i'm because do you feel what i feel like the strangeness of this okay yeah and they're like it's like at a water park and they have their fans in bathing suits like i don't know the whole thing just as confusing suit component yeah because you know the american dream mall like one of the big attractions okay so one of the big attractions there is when they have an indoor that's where i learned to ski if you guys remember i've logged it for patreon it's one of these insane malls so they have an indoor ski mountain they have an indoor water park and they had like a concert at the water park and everybody was like in their bathing suits like i don't know it just feels it feels like something you do when you're over the hill and you want to still make money from your former glory days now obviously this was on a big much bigger scale i don't think the new kids on the block cruise is as well executed as this i don't know i really don't know the more we learn the more questions we have correct well if you know anything let us know please and if you went how was it i thought i heard overall it was like a very premium experience yes are you ready for our next story as much as it pains me to say the good guys are making news the good guys are making news their first episode jackie said she opened up tmz today to like it's the first village for stories it was the first story it's the first story and i have to be honest i listened to the episode while i was getting ready this morning i thoroughly enjoyed myself it was so crazy how drake and josh were able to just like snap back and be yes Drake and Josh again and how their chemistry they remembered lines from the Amanda show their Tony pajamas dynamic is just so the same as it was it was a really great episode so far I don't even know if we talked about like once it wasn't oh you did talk about once it was announced I did briefly talk about it but I didn't want to talk about it too much before people could watch it now you can watch it and listen to it it's available everywhere um and it's actually really crazy I feel like to Josh and Ben's credit because there is this like big heavy thing they need to talk about, right?

36:00Like everything we learned in the documentary last year, like the show that brought everyone so much joy. Drake was going through like one of the worst times of his life and he was suffering abuse at the hands of somebody who was supposed to protect him. So it's hard to like navigate that conversation while also being nostalgic and funny and light. And I feel like the episode really, it's two parts. So the second part comes out on Thursday, but I feel like they really covered both kind of, cause that's what people want to tune in for. Like the fun Drake and Josh, but you know, we just learned all of this from the documentary last year we also need to unpack that a little bit they're very open too with one another because they did have this like public fight yeah and people thought that like they had major beef I don't think they had major beef but they just hadn't spoken you know yeah and I think it's just like the longer things go without speaking like the more miscommunication there is the more and the wider the gap people make and it just drives you apart especially when like so much of your time together was during your formative years and everybody was like struggling with major issues so it makes sense how they got to such a bad place um but I was watching listening to the episode and I really feel like and I know we're so anti-reboot like I know that we are and I feel this way but I feel like Drake and Josh like deserve like a movie buddy comedy because I was also realizing like I liked Drake and Josh like passively like you said on the show last week I don't remember you liking Drake like I liked it when it was on I watched and I enjoyed but for someone like Ben like it's his Hannah Montana like it shapes him as a person yes and by the way I've been reading comments all day from like YouTube and even Justin Bieber yes Ben is like a part of a big generation of men uh-huh whose Hannah Montana was Drake and Josh so for me like you want to bring Hannah back I will that's a good idea anytime any place of all interested parties are on board in a real way and I feel like there is actually the potential here to do like a movie we don't need a tv issue like a movie like drake and josh adventure and it's like really well written and they get to like have their buddy comedy moment because drake was saying that's what i always wanted like you know johnny carson and his guy and right lucy and desi ethel yeah and like they found that in each other but they couldn't even enjoy it because they were just both suffering so taken advantage of by the industry and i feel like they deserve like one time to really enjoy it and do it right because it it comes out of their pores like they get together and they're already like bada bing bada boom and so what drake was saying because you're right and i completely agree um is drake lives in mexico and they were asking about that and he basically said like drake and josh was on in mexico on the equivalent of like like Fox five here, basic cable, every kid in Mexico, he says he is the most famous person.

38:40He has so many work opportunities in Mexico more so than he would ever have in America or LA. He is. And so when you think of the impact, just that even outside of the States, like of the show, it's actually really crazy. And I never thought about it. Like did people in other countries watch Hannah Montana? I think so. Okay. Yeah. It's just, everyone has like their show from their time, but like Drake and Josh is just as big as Hannah Montana. And when you think about like that show is a part of who I am. It's in my DNA. And that's how Drake and Josh is for other people. And I just feel like there's more here because it ended, you know, before it's time.

39:12And while they couldn't even enjoy it, imagine the kind of continuity they could be making if they like were on good terms. And I just feel like it with the right writers and producers and like something high budget like this would kill. And the crazy thing is, is that it's a show titled off of both of their real names, because I'm sure they would never want to work with Nickelodeon or Paramount and they shouldn't like it was such a traumatic terrible but technically like the intellectual property of the show belongs to Paramount but it's their real names so like you literally could just go like you don't need maybe not maybe it could be Josh and Drake or maybe they'll work with Paramount like maybe it's all new people and maybe they would do right by them I don't know I mean it's a good way to undo some of like the PR damage that that documentary did yeah I just feel like there's still this need for it and what was so funny was the story about Justin Bieber how Drake was like beefing with believers on Twitter and like just talking trash to them and like inadvertently to Justin and then like Justin saw all of it and then Scooter saw him at a club was like is that really you on Twitter he's like you guys are seeing that he's like yeah man like Justin he was like Justin loves Drake and Josh like he's so bummed out no Justin is like literally the target demo he like he was he was a Ben and imagine like And then like Drake is like talking shit about you and your fans.

40:28And the thing is now I think like, you know, hindsight of course is 2020. Like I think there was a couple of years where Drake was like having a sort of like a public image issue. He was acting really strangely on social media and in real life. And now we know like why that was. He was like truly spiraling in like a, in a real way, not just online. So I think all is forgiven probably from Justin Bieber. Yeah, yeah. I would hope so. Especially because like the way he describes it, like he didn't mean anything by it. he didn't realize that like he would ever see it which and I feel like in the early days of Twitter like yeah you don't realize you're just like fucking around and that totally reaching so many people so it's been really good so far I think I have like 10 minutes left and then part two comes out later this week so it's just been a treat good on the good guys I I did listen to the you know their intro and everything and and their new song which is really amazing um and they played it twice because then Drake wanted to hear it and like right at the beginning and the guy who worked on it with Josh worked on Drake's album.

41:24And Drake was like, do people say like your song sounds just like my second album? And I believe that the guy who Josh worked on, Josh wrote the Good Guys theme song, but then when it came time to have it produced and made, yeah, I believe he also did the Drake and Josh theme song. Which is Drake Bell's song, because he's a singer. Yes, yes. And just like the fact that Ben is a part of all this is not lost. I mean, I saw Ben getting a lot of hate for not being there in person. And I just want to say to my husband's credit, he literally had a flight. And it was the week, remember I was sick on that Friday and Ben filled in for me.

42:00I was so sick. He was so sick. Like, no, he's not leaving. And by the way, as a podcast listener, which I am when I listen to stuff these days, like it really doesn't affect me. The podcast listeners are so chill. You know, it's the video community. That have like a lot of high maintenance needs. That are up your button around the corner. Get rid of the frames. Get rid of the frames. No. We love you guys. but the people listening as a podcast like they are so chill it's so true you know what i should have asked for an advanced copy of this podcast when because when zach and i were driving back from disney yesterday he like wanted to listen to a podcast but like everything i was suggesting he was like no so i was like okay so oh you really should have just asked i didn't think of it he would have loved that he he would love that you you would love it so good on the good guys happy for them i guess feather in tnn's cap like it is still it's true they make us look good we We invented them.

42:49It's so true. You know, like we literally copy everything they do now these days, like with their theme song and their little intro video. They could have had a podcast without CNN and they'd say, okay. So true. But no, we invented them, okay? Yeah. Don't forget it. Our next story is a twofer because the Paul brothers are making news. What's the other one doing? I know Jake got engaged. Jake got engaged and they have a reality show on Macs that's dropping this week. It's called Paul American and they're all in it. And it sounds amazing. Oh, that's a cute name. Yeah. So they are now doing press for Paul American.

43:21They talk to TMZ Sports about the show. They're peeling back the curtain of their family in a new reality TV show. And they're telling viewers that people will see them in a way that they've never shown the world until now. Well, I saw that the younger one got engaged. I actually recently started following his fiance on social media because I was really surprised to find out she's not like what you would think Jake calls. No, she's an Olympian. deeply accomplished speed skater, right? Jada Leardom. She's international. She's far enough. I don't know where she's, I think she skis for like the Netherlands or something.

43:58But he like flies around the world and like comes to her competitions. It's actually, it's just like not what you would have expected from Jake Paul. And I actually really like her content. I followed her the other day because I saw this like video she posted on a PJ. And then they find out that this weekend they got engaged. Like not to make everything about me, but the timing was kind of weird. No, I know. But maybe like they were getting high engagement. So they were like served to you more because they were obviously so happy in their relationship. You know, I love the Paul brothers and I'm going to be watching this show because everything I've watched of there is like the one thing.

44:32They're not what you think. What was that series called? Impulsive. Oh, no, that's their podcast. Untold. Untold Jake Paul. Yes. Was so good. They're not what you think. And now they're like living very traditional lives. Like Logan just had a baby with Nina Agdahl. You all know her. That's what's shocking. And so you would think like Jake Paul got engaged. But no, Logan like really settled down a little while ago. And it's like they're oddly traditional. Yeah. And they work really hard and they're having a lot of success. And I think it will be like a great show because they're just huge personalities.

45:03And their worlds are very interesting. So. Well, I'm curious to see like their lifestyle like at home because I know they live in Puerto Rico. That's like a business decision they made to avoid paying taxes. And let me just say I respect it heavily. definitely something I'd be interested in doing one day. And they lead these very extravagant lives. I know people like locals hate them, like taking advantage of the tax system. But that's something I definitely find interesting. Yeah. And I also, the Paul brothers always remind me of Tommy Fury because that's how I was introduced to him. And I also need to mention, Tommy, Bambi, and Molly were all on vacation in Dubai this weekend.

45:38They actually extended their trip. They didn't post together, but they all posted. Did you see the paparazzi pictures of them landing at the airport? No, I didn't. Was it lovely? Okay, something really bothered me about it. Wait, hold on. Okay, let me tell you. Yeah, pull it up. Okay. And tell me if you'll notice. Molly May Airport? Is that a good search? Yeah, yeah. It's her, Bambi, and him leaving the airport with the stroller and the suitcases and stuff. Okay. The classic paparazzi pic. Let me know what is wrong with this image. Okay, there's a lot of images, so I'm just looking. Yeah, you'll see it in all of them.

46:10I'll see it in all of them. that she's pushing a stroller and a luggage, and he's only pushing one luggage, and he has a free hand. Correct. They have two big luggages, two checked luggages, and a stroller. She has one stroller, one luggage. He has one luggage. What the fuck are you doing, bitch? Take both suitcases. Oh, and there's like a security guard not helping at all. No, the security guard is pulling one. And then in this picture, Tommy's pulling three, and Molly's pulling one. Unacceptable. Why do they have so much luggage? Unacceptable. Unacceptable. When you're pushing the stroller, like that's it especially when you have a husband and uh like no and not just a husband but a husband whose job is a wrestler to pull weights and with these sorts of luggages that where the wheels are 360 you can put the the handles like this and then just push them at once it's very easy I was very upset and when I opened the comments I saw other people being like why is she carrying a suitcase and I was so glad I wasn't the only person having this thought because it would bother me so much yeah it's hard you could see she's struggling um but I'm gonna focus on the positive which is that they're clearly back together i am so happy for them i'm happy for her because i know that's what she wants i'm happy for bambi because this is what's best for bambi and tommy like keeps alluding to the fact that he's like healthier than ever and happier than ever and i think he said he didn't cheat he didn't cheat but he was a bad partner okay so that's something you can work because he was abusing alcohol and out all night and you can't hear from and just a not being but like obviously not bad enough for her to stop loving him and wanting to be with him so i'm glad that they can now be in the best relationship possible complete agreement and amazon better have been there with them cameras i want the rekindling recorded televised and tommy looks good he looks well strong yeah yeah not strong enough to carry but of course yeah so mazel tov to them congrats are you ready for our next story four number four yeah yeah yeah yeah amy schumer shares that she's back on weight loss drugs uh after having a horrible experience with wagovi can i tell you that video she posted made me chuckle hard like she was just posting it was just like a random video and she was sharing it because the company that prescribed her the medication is a company she's invested in so it was obviously like she was sharing a lot in this video and she wasn't intending to be so funny she made me laugh well she's just a funny lady but yeah she had like a couple things that she wanted to say she obviously like wanted to post a video to talk about her positive experience with this company that was so positive that now she's invested in it so it behooves her to talk positively about it to her millions of followers why she decided to do that while she's driving in the car I mean I she could have you know been sad in front of her ring light and she does have the craziest social media let me tell you it is so poorly managed and not a shade at all like it's clearly run by her so she'll like take a screenshot of something and it's like there's a picture of her on the side it's just not like a pargy influencer so it's very on brand for her to like make this chaotic video but I actually thought she was gonna crash no I know and people love that about her and I think it's really great and I actually wasn't worried about the driving aspect it's not like she was looking at the phone and she's probably a good driver and she can drive and talk at the same time you know it was just like why are you gonna do this big endorsement for your new investment like as a half-assed remark while you're in traffic I don't know I I have no idea.

49:29But what she said was years ago, and she said this before, she went on Wagovi. She was horribly nauseous because she has that thing, that Kate Middleton thing of horrible nausea during pregnancy. And apparently it transferred to like when she was on these drugs. And she was so sick she couldn't stay on it, which I think she was bummed about. And I think the anti-Ozempic movement, they love to reference, well, even Amy Schumer. Like she's been open about the fact that it ruined her life. Like I think they cite that often as like a reason why people shouldn't take it, even though she's clearly the exception.

49:57What's the name of that thing? The Kate Middleton nausea. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Because literally like three people have it. The two of them are them. And so you like can't use them as. Examples.

50:14Hyperemesis gravidarum. Yeah, HG is what they call it. Right. So she has talked about how one time she used the drugs. It did not work for her. And then she never used it again. So that's kind of the end of that story until she shared. She's actually been on Manjaro recently. She got like a new prescription. I know the drugs, everybody's like, they're all the same. They're actually really different. And you can have a terrible experience on one and an amazing experience on the other. And she's having a really like pleasant experience on Manjaro. I think it's doing what it's supposed to be doing without making her terribly sick.

50:42And so she wanted to share that, which I love when people share positive ozemic experiences because it never gets shared. So I love that for her and I'm excited for her. All thanks to MidiHealth, which also diagnosed her as perimenopausal. Interesting. She was being so funny. Like, I'm sorry. And she was saying, like, that she basically was saying that these drugs can be really expensive unless you're diabetic or medically obese, which the internet does think that I am. Like, she was being really funny while also talking, like, very relatably about something very real. And to me, this is, like, the number one way to get into my heart.

51:15While also, like, making a bit of money. Correct. Invest. We love to see a woman in business. Yeah, but someone like Amy Schumer at this point, like, can't go on Wiggo v. Mojarro's Epic and, like, not tell us at this point. just because we're all very invested and like she keeps it so real. Yeah. And of course she feels the same. She's like, of course, I would tell you. I do think there was a time where talking about your being on one of these drugs was extremely brave. Yeah. I think now it's kind of been detonated. Is that the right word? Like when you. Diffused. Yeah, kind of. It's not so much of like a triggering hot topic anymore.

51:49Yeah, but people still are lying. Oh, yeah, people are still lying about it. I saw someone like someone's like getting called out like you're totally on it. and it's like yeah she probably is I'm gonna text you because oh I know who yeah do we do we talk about this person already on the show briefly no oh I'll just text you but why text me who you think and I'm just like I'm sure you guys can figure it out but it's just like she's deciding not to say but of course she's on I feel like any celebrity who's like always been yes and is now not like they're probably on it except except and I want to talk about because I've been seeing a lot of people talking about this oh Lizzo Lizzo you don't think she's on it I actually now I don't I think so much time has passed that she's started her weight loss journey that if you were on the drug for that long, you really would have lost like probably more significant weight.

52:37When did she get canceled? Was that two years ago? No. When was it? Let's search Lizzo Banana.

52:47That'll do it. Lizzo Banana controversy.

52:54The lawsuit. They're not giving me time, Gemini. Here, NBC News. This is from August 1st, 2023. So it's a year and a half. Okay, I think that if you were consistently using one of these drugs while also changing your lifestyle, which you can see on social media, she works out a lot. She's eating very differently. I think she would look much different. I think it's happening like very slowly for her. She looks amazing. and you know I was very critical of her when she dressed up as it for I do not think she's on it now I really don't and like why not I don't know some people like have like I think moral issues with it so that's I guess some people are like anti unnecessary drug use it is like an injection so it's not like an Advil that you pop yeah so if you're like a natural swirling it doesn't work and it makes them sick right right right People have their reasons.

53:52I'm not against anybody who doesn't want to be on it. It could never be me. You can't relate. Can't relate. I'm so excited to get back on it. And guys, when I bounce back skinnier than ever, don't start rumors about me. I'm on it. You don't even need to ask. I'm not going to do a big Patreon reveal. I'm on it. I can't wait to see how it feels one day. It's going to be like that Lisa Frank meme. You have to tell me when the day comes. I will fly down. I want to be on site for the first injection. to be clear you don't need it you're nauseous yeah you have hyperpigment plasia i don't have hg but i am nauseous swirly watch what was the story here amy schumer oh amy schumer we didn't go very far no we didn't like we're still on track we're just talking about a zempic which we always are are you ready for our fifth and final story if it's our fifth and final story that's brought to you by Booking.com.

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57:14ASPCAPetInsurance.com slash toast. This is a paid advertisement. Insurance is underwritten by either Independence American Insurance Company or United States Fire Insurance Company and produced by PTZ Insurance Agency Limited. The ASPCA is not an insurer and is not engaged in the business of insurance. Thank you, turd-surance. You're welcome, jerk-surance. Our final story is some new couple news that is taking multiple worlds by storm. Okay. Tiger Woods confirms that he is in a relationship with Vanessa Trump, who is the ex-wife of Donald Trump Jr. I thought it was going to be Jennifer Aniston out with...

57:49Pedro Pascal. Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you. They had like a three-hour dinner. Yeah, I saw that. I'm texting you. What? She's texting me drama? Major. Got it, okay. I thought that this whole time, I thought he was gay. Tiger Woods? No, he loves the ladies. Isn't that his whole thing? He can't stop like driving. Tiger Woods. Oh, Pedro Pascal. Pedro. So I was just like shocked to see Jennifer Aniston. And good to know she's not dating Barack Obama. That conspiracy theory, I guess, is debunked. I don't think so. Just because you go to dinner with someone for three hours, they might be like working on a new movie.

58:25It doesn't mean that he's not gay. It's not like they're like seeing. Maybe he's friends with Barack. Yeah, maybe like Barack went out the back door and it was like a double date. Right. Barack went out the back door for sure. Yeah, they had dinner for three hours. Could mean so many things. Yeah. So I wouldn't say like new couple news, but just I guess. No, no. That's just where my mind went because I saw a picture this morning. But yes, not only are these two dating, which I think came out a few days ago. The real news is the incredibly bizarre Instagram post and caption that Tiger Woods shared announcing his new relationship whilst also asking for privacy.

58:56Yeah. So a few days before that, like it was like came out in the press that they were dating, but not confirmed by either one of them. So then he confirmed it. He said, love is in the air and life is better with you by my side. We look forward to our journey together through life together. At this time, we would appreciate privacy to all those close to our hearts. Okay, so why did you announce it? I think like to confirm it and people were talking about it. So it's like, yes, we're together. Please give us privacy. I just feel like they're too famous to have to even acknowledge a rumor. Like he in their own universes, like he is the most famous athlete of all time.

59:28Like I would say he's up there with like Michael Jordan, right? Yeah. Michael Jordan's not out here confirming rumors. Like, I don't know. It's just kind of like lowbrow behavior. Yeah, I agree. but this is like huge for the golf world. Of course, like Tiger Woods is Tiger Woods. Well, it makes sense. I could see how they would have met. Like this doesn't feel so random. And then her oldest daughter, Kai, is like a professional golfer. So imagine then like your stepdad is Tiger Woods. Oh wait, that's kind of crazy. You know what I was also thinking not to bring it back to Jake and Josh? That was the original blended.

1:00:00Drake and Josh walked so Drew and Adam could run. and so now Vanessa and Tiger can sprint correct right to the altar I actually what I like about this story a lot is that like she has five kids and I feel like sometimes you know the woman you write him off like Don Jr. has had a long-term girlfriend since he's in another relationship and you just think like the woman and the mom like gets left behind it's like oh hell no she's with Tiger Woods like mic drop I had the same thought I like this for her because I feel like you know he's a bit of a philanderer her ex-husband he's always you know out and about different women and she's just kind of like you know the lowly ex-wife at home and she definitely is stunting on these hoes with her new man who's like so rich so famous so talented and you just know that daughter who golfs is like I don't want to be spending all the time at mom's house now yeah and I think Don Jr.

1:00:56probably golfs this is probably like his hero 1000 percent I just think it's great for women i actually agree with you it reminds me of giselle like having a baby now after tom kind of it's a yes yes in a totally different way it was a win for women in the bucket of just like female empowerment like things women can do when you thought you left them behind and just kind of turning that stereotype on its head of like the og wife getting left behind for the younger woman right right five kids and a tiger it's a good way of looking at it yeah so mazel to the happy couple truly and we will respect your privacy of course just just like you just after this story now correct privacy starts consider it private yep our lips lock the two throw away to lock them up and throw away the key are you ready for white lotus recap as much as one can be ready to talk about something so disgusting um let me tell you I thought that initial incest scene was like the end of it.

1:02:00Right. And did I miss something or they set us up that way? No, they set it up that way because we're just seeing it from two people's POV. So I think, and that's what made it so much more shocking. The first incest scene is how Saxon, Patrick Schwarzenegger, remembers it. And it actually turns out that the brother, so the, wait, the Saxon is the younger brother. Sorry. What's the, Lachlan, Lachlan. No, Lachlan is the older one. No, Claudius. Yes. No, you're wrong. no no you are so wrong don't waste your time Lachlan is the younger brother you're 100 % right Lachlan White Lotus

1:02:36oh yeah okay wait maybe I'm wrong I just want to get this right oh you're right okay so Lachlan is a younger one wow I need to rejigger my brain I've been calling the younger one Saxon the whole time so the first incest scene is the POV of Patrick Schwarzenegger he thinks that his brother was having sex next to him. And he was jerking himself off. And he started jerking off because there's like porn happening next to him and he feels sick with himself for even doing that. You know, like that's his brother. When I saw that, I was like, oh my God, that is sickening. That is so twisted. By the way, it's inexcusable.

1:03:06But obviously the second one, like what actually happens, makes it seem like not so bad. Because as it turns out, that's actually not what happened. He didn't just jerk off. He was jerked off in his sleep. He's just, Patrick Schwarzenegger is just sleeping there. Really? That's how I perceived it. Me and Ben. while his brother's getting fucked. And then he wakes up and there's like a masturbation occurring. I think he thinks that like it's himself. He's on drugs too. Oh, I didn't get a sense that he was sleeping. I got a sense that they were all on drugs. Like they're all caught up there having a threesome.

1:03:35He's also, Saxon is also hooking up with the girl. But at the time that the girl is hooking up with Lachlan, Lachlan is jerking off his brother. So I perceived it that the older brother had sex with the girl and went to sleep. And the girl had sex with the younger brother. and then the younger brother also got the older brother involved while he was sleeping post-coitus. I seriously feel so nauseated. I know. And it's like the way Saxon is feeling and reacting the next day, especially as he discovers like more and more bad things. It's like, it's so real. Like how do you wipe this from your mind?

1:04:05Like I don't even know. I seriously have the biggest pit for him and worse than for Thomas Rabineau. Of course. He's facing like ruin and destitution. Lachlan, this little pervert, is so like unaffected by it and well he doesn't remember it and my but my thought he's was that he was lying about not remembering it because he's just like a true fucking freak but it turns out he doesn't remember it and then when he does meditate at that place and remember it he is he's not as horrified as he should be but he's shocked i think he's shocked and he's probably like i don't know he was looking at the tushy in the first things i did that yeah so now it's also was the one to lean in and kiss the brother first and like makes the kiss go longer but that's where the show is drunken on drugs it's quite brilliant because we like hated the older brother the entire time and very slowly they started to show us like actually the freak here is the younger brother he was staring at the tushy he made the kiss go longer he started jerking off his brother like he's a freak and now he's spending the night with piper at that place so i just don't even want to know i feel like he's to fuck Piper.

1:05:10Oh my God. And my theory is that Piper finds the gun and Piper kills her whole family because everyone is more sick than the next, you know, she hates her older brother. Then the one brother she liked is going to try and I think like, like have sex with her. That's what I think. Then he's going to find out about the dad. And then maybe he spares the mom because she is kind of innocent and all this, but she's, she created these monsters. Like I think because The family is so twisted. Like, I think it has to be them who start killing people. I don't think Piper is a killer. Well, but then I think I could see that being like the White Lotus flip.

1:05:47It's like, look, she was trying to reach Serenity, but the evil rich family got to her first. Like, I could see that. When she was talking to the monk, like, it's clear that she was having existential issues when she came here. But I don't think enough to kill. I don't, like, she hates her older brother. she's not gonna kill him that's why she's running off to thailand to get away from all no i could i could really see it being the mother more finding out about everything yeah she kills the husband she kills herself she's so funny yeah she really you can't live in china she's seriously funny she's that i at this point in my life i don't think i could live an uncomfortable life facts i actually can't with this family anymore like they make me sick make me sick with a pit like the dread I feel for them and it's like they can never go back home no so I hate that family I hate the Bangkok storyline like I find it I don't give a fuck are with you on that so really the only joy I can feel is those three girls and they actually are it's really written quite perfectly it's very I think not that I have friends like this but you know like there are female friendships that are just like this and Carrie Coon having a fucking breakdown on last night's episode like I'm not mad I'm not mad she's so crazy and like she's not wrong right her friend did push valentine on her and then slept with valentine and you're in a relationship and why were you pushing so she's so valid but like I'm with leslie bib like we're on a trip like must you ruin it and then get so crazy and drunk like I actually in the context of the argument she's right like michelle monahan's a bitch but in the context of the trip like I'm with leslie bib like can we just chill and not her throwing leslie bib under the bus yeah no I agree like Michelle Monaghan is wrong and clearly that's something that she's done throughout her life and then they they're reunited after so many years and all the stuff of like high school goes you forget like you right it doesn't matter washes away but then to like do the same thing that you've always done some people never change it brings up old issues and then you're just as mad and it's years worth of anger coming out but the fact that she can't uh compartmentalize and just enjoy the trip and like just know like this is her friend and her friend is like this and she's a man eater and She's a bitch and she's going to take what you have and what she's telling you to take.

1:07:59Just know that about people. No, and it's like you're now 40 and you've been friends since high school. And it's like either accept people for who they are or don't be friends with them anymore. That's valid, too. Yeah. And not as like supposing to feel bad for Michelle Monaghan when she's like, everyone talks about me. I didn't expect the people closest to me. It's like if these are the people closest to you, you've got a problem. You're screwed. No, I don't feel bad for any of them. The only one who I feel like a kinship to is Leslie Bibb. And I really started to like her last week when they were all partying.

1:08:27And she's like, to what end? Like, we're married old ladies. Can we go home? And they wouldn't leave the villa. And like, they were making her take the shot. So it's like, she's down to fun and have the clown around and have fun. But like, these two are taking it so far in different ways. And I actually felt like in this episode, it was the first time any one of them wasn't like saying something to one friend and a different thing to another. Like what she was saying to Carrie, whatever her character's name is, is the same thing that she was like, the same energy she was sharing with Michelle.

1:08:53She wasn't like talking shit with Carrie and then being like, oh, yeah, she's crazy. No, now everything is officially out in the open, which it has not been at all. Yeah. Belinda and Porn Chai getting it on and then her husband, I mean, her son coming like seriously cringe. I don't know like to what end, like how that plays into any of this, like objection relevance. Yeah. And when Guy Talk. Belinda needs to become a bit more stealth. Like the fact that she doesn't say to the manager, what's his name? I don't know his name. That she's like, oh, you know what? I was mistaken. Like, she clearly sees this person is, like, not going to have, like, take her side.

1:09:30And people think that he's going to run and tell Greg anyway. So it's like she should have just downplayed it. When she saw Greg, she should have acted like everything was normal. And also been like, you know what? I was totally mixed up. Like, I actually remember, like, you know what I mean? She's not a good actress. She's not a good actress, like, in life. She's just not, like. Oh, I don't mean the actress herself. I mean, like, the character. She needs to be acting more. She's, like, showing all her cards. yeah she's so like volatile she's gonna get herself killed a thousand percent 100 um like bangkok whatever there's someone i read a theory that because you know rick sees her husband and then the episode ends and it's like her husband is his father yeah i think so something like that but like how can you i don't care is it gonna be him with a gray wig how could it be so clear no i literally don't give a fuck unless they're able to tie it to the whole thing somehow right yeah at some point all these storylines get closer together um i don't i don't have a theory as to how any of these random things are connected and there's a part the dinner party next week at the house dinner party at craig's house saxon go saxon should pack his bags and leave he should never see those two girls again because they're a constant reminder of this heart the fact that he wakes up the next day and goes to the pool to hang out with them like no nuts you hide your head in shame and you never like you don't go in like then recap yep when guy talk got his gun back like i actually was so relieved like he gives me he is also like a walking pit he yeah because he's stupid stupid as fuck like if he's in charge of the safety of this facility it's no wonder there's gonna be another shooting yeah um and the girl chelsea Rick's girlfriend I actually really like her She's like a good She didn't like contribute much She's not a part of the threesome or anything But she's like a good supplemental character Like when her reaction When she's hearing about your brother jerked you off So funny She's a great actress As much as there can be a moral compass on the show I think that she is that Supposed to be some sort of Yeah I like when the two girlies are together And I feel bad for the other girlie That you know she's in the doghouse but she acted crazy yeah I don't feel bad for her she's nuts I know but I like her I can't like her she was participated in the incest I know I can't like her I don't know she's funny and I know and it's it's it's a good strategy I know that like these types of shows are always like one-upping each other with like shock factor right because what's everyone talking about today the incest and incest is a really crazy line to cross I'm not gonna lie and and I found myself watching it and like not to be like judgmental, but I was like, this is fucking gross.

1:12:16I kind of hate that. Like this is because there's so many TV shows now. Everyone's always trying to like outdo one another with like the crazy. And it's always like sex related. And I don't know. Did we really have to go there? Not to pose like a psychological sociological question on, on the community today, but like, did we really have to go there? No, I don't feel that we did. And I feel like if you had Nikki Blond scan your show, you wouldn't have to like sink to such depths. Cause she could carry it. Because if you have to have an incestual storyline in order for, and in a modern day setting, right?

1:12:43Because we keep comparing it to Game of Thrones, whereas incest was perceived differently. If you have to have an actual sex scene of incest to get people talking, maybe we need to try new writers, you know? And also to say, last day's episode was actually very good. Me and Ben were talking about it a lot. We have a lot to, it wasn't a bad episode, but it's like, at what cost? Seriously, I feel sick. No, it's thought provoking because they're throwing the craziest shit against. But if that's what you have to do, it's like there's not another way. And let me tell you, Ben had a totally different takeaway from the episode.

1:13:14He loved hearing from the Buddhist leader, the monk. Oh, actually, I liked it too. I didn't like to love it, but I appreciated it. No, he said that's so wise. You know, Ben is obsessed with like Asian cultures and spirituality, central. And we went to bed afterwards and like I literally flipped over. It must have been like an hour into my sleep. And he's on his phone. and I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm just reading about all the monotheistic religions. He's like, and then I was like, what are you reading about? He's like, I'm on Kabbalah now. Uh-oh. He's seriously so scary. Yeah, he is.

1:13:48Reading about Kabbalah. He's Piper. He is Piper. And you are? Victoria. Herkipose. Yeah. That's Victoria. You could have given me all day to guess her name. Never would have come up with Victoria. I only knew it because I remember when she went up to the monks. I'm Victoria Ratliff. Got it. Never would have guessed. The Ratliffs is also their name. That's our show. That's White Lotus. That's The Fast Five. That's The Good Guys, unfortunately. And that's my favorite Disney adult doing her thing. And that's my favorite Turdney adult. I am a Turdney adult. You should open up a park called Turdney.

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