The Roast of Justin Baldoni (& Flaa)

30 Dec 2024 · 14 min

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The Toast Podcast Episode Summary

Episode Title

The Roast of Justin Baldoni (& Flaa)

Hosts

Jackie & Claudia Oshry

Episode Summary In this episode, Jackie and Claudia dive into the ongoing drama surrounding Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, recapping pop culture news that they missed during their break. They discuss the allegations made by Blake against Justin and the public relations strategies at play, including grassroots and astroturf movements. The hosts express their positions on the situation and reflect on their past predictions about public sentiment.

Key Themes and Discussions

  1. Personal Connection to the Blake and Justin Drama
  2. The hosts feel personally involved due to their previous support for Blake Lively.
  3. They highlight how their independent views often put them at odds with popular opinion, feeling justified in their current stance.
  1. Public Perception and Media Campaigns
  2. Jackie and Claudia discuss the concept of astroturfing (fake grassroots movements) and how public figures can manipulate public opinion.
  3. They emphasize the importance of questioning narratives pushed by media and PR campaigns.
  1. Blake Lively's Legal Issues
  2. The hosts analyze Blake's sexual harassment complaint against Justin and his production company.
  3. They speculate about the evidence and proof Blake gathered, including text messages and receipts.
  1. Insight into the PR World
  2. Jackie and Claudia break down the PR firms involved and the difference between legitimate companies and those engaging in nefarious astroturfing.
  3. They explore how public figures use PR strategies to manage their images and the implications of these strategies on public perception.

Personal Updates

  • Jackie shares her recent vacation experiences in Miami, contrasting with Claudia's more productive week preparing for a family gathering.
  • Claudia received positive feedback on her recent vlog, indicating the success of her content creation efforts.

Conclusion

  • The episode wraps up with the hosts encouraging listeners to head to their Patreon for more in-depth discussions and content.
  • They express excitement for returning to podcasting after their break and tease upcoming topics and episodes.

Key Takeaways

  • The hosts believe that public sentiment can be easily manipulated and emphasize the need for independent thinking.
  • The ongoing drama between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni illustrates the complexities of Hollywood PR strategies.
  • Jackie and Claudia position themselves as advocates for truth within the chaotic landscape of public opinion.

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0:00Good afternoon. Morning, millennials, because it's morning right now. we're dropping this right after we record it and weirdly even though we're having like a day of leisure we are recording at the exact time that we record the regular show well when i woke up this morning i said there's one thing i have to do and it's to come on the internet and clear my name you know we i it's you know we make everything about ourselves of course it's just kind of like our natural inclination but it's it's human it's seemingly impossible not to make the justin baldonia blake lively drama about us one because i have like i know there was a grassroots movement and also an astroturf movement but i was a part of like the blake lively team blake lively grassroots movement and i i definitely like feel like we were huge advocates and voices in that during that time we were so much so that when i was reading everything that since come to light which we will get into later in a bit we have to catch up with like ourselves yourselves so much so that I was reading and I was like damn were these publicists frustrated by the toast that we would not budge we could not be turfed and we could not be manipulated they must be sick of us a thousand percent and there is a personal connection that I will get into later in the show there's so many things to say and we're gonna get into it later in the show the one thing I want to say and we are gonna get into it later I promise but the one thing I want to say because if you take away one thing from this episode it's like Jackie and I actually like all the time get so much shit for like having no quote worse takes like we're always like I guess delivering hot takes just giving our opinions people like classic jackson claude always being on the wrong side of history no we're classic jackson claude going against the grain no no classic jackson claude thinking independently and not being able to be brainwashed by literal campaigns paid for by agencies so the fact that like we're always getting shit for like you know whatever everyone whatever everyone's team x like we are team y and i feel so justified right now in this moment obviously because we were right about this but also like i think it's a greater about all the other things we're probably right about then and think about all the other campaigns like we don't know about right that are campaigns right like who were we all you know sort of encouraged to dislike and Jackie and I never did I mean we ended up being right about ballerina farms all these things that happened over the summer it was kind of like the summer of truth like you and I were right about ballerini we were right about Blake live like it just feels good now I will I will not the whole episode go wax on about how we were right but like to I wasn't even like waiting for this I was like you know we said our piece it's they said we said and Blake's reputation was definitely tarnished in the public eye not for me if anything it made me like like her i didn't have an opinion about her before but i was like damn this girl's really going through it she's a mom of four she just had a baby she's like working so hard and now i have like even more respect for her because she like had to deal with all this shit yeah i never even particularly like stand like i yeah and also sometimes like cancellation maketh man it's so true we're about to see a whole new version of blake lively when she comes out of this really hones you as a human being does for better or for worse because when someone's so beloved all the time like that's that's nice for them it's not super interesting agreed but that's nice but now you have a chip on your shoulder welcome to the club yeah now you got something to say i want to hear i'm listening so we will get into it at some point in the show but jackson and i are just excited to be back on the ones and the twos we've been off podcasting now for like a week and a half we have a lot to catch up on so how was turdy's staycation it was yeah so i'm down in florida with Jackie we're spending the holidays together but before I got down here Ben and I spent a week together in Miami it was so nice just like very relaxing pool beach I got a sunglass tan you know all the things that much to report because it was just like genuinely relaxing yeah that's really nice and you spent that week like kind of having the opposite sort of effect right doing the most I did not have a relaxing week but I had an extremely productive and fulfilling week because I spent the week getting ready for Turdy's arrival and as you saw if you didn't watch the Patreon yet like go watch it even though it seems like a lot of you have watched it and you're really loving and I'm so glad because I put my heart and soul not only into the project which I think everyone could feel but I put my heart and soul into that vlog an hour and 15 minutes and you also like get nervous like that's a lot of oh hold on hold on hold on Michael Vick hold on we get Michael in here Rudy come to your mother okay we've separated them okay separation of church and state um I also put my heart and soul into the vlog an hour and 15 is a lot of jacks and i was really like worried how it would be received and i'm so glad that people are really loving the entirety of it so thank you guys so much it was such a pleasure to be the recipient of your gift i i love my room so much it's kind of been a beacon of peace and restoration for me during these trying times with like lively and justin baldoni um it was seriously like so above and beyond the vlog was amazing obviously but like the gift that i received let's get real talking about i watched parts of the vlog it was really long I did I skipped through it obviously Claudia like we don't watch each other's work we live it we live it sometimes like if a patron's going up that only one of us had a hand in like the one that Jackie did um I will say like I need you to watch this before I post it I want to make sure I didn't say anything bad or like it's not a piece of shite yeah like requires approval but Jackie knew she had a king piece of content she didn't need my approval and then when the time came yes I did skip to the end to see my reaction I did like skirt through a lot of the talking parts like I just wanted to see more like I'm very HGTV like that I understood you don't like the confessionals of the behind the scenes drama exactly and also because you saw what the room looked like a lot of the stuff in the beginning like you don't have the suspense of like it seemed like I wasn't doing much I was getting a wardrobe from Ikea and maybe a fire pit for my backyard and a mirror for my room and I'll take you guys along what it turned into so much more than that so much more than that is really like a story being told you're a storyteller I am a storyteller when will you guys get that like i live for we get it we get it content creation someone said my vlog was giving molly may and let me just tell you like i dined off that for days it's giving comfort creator that's what they call molly may comfort create like youtubers who like document their life very uneventfully like they're not doing crazy stunts they're just like makeup and chill and girlfriends and cooking and people just sort of watch it in the background they become their comfort creators and i know a lot of people are looking for new comfort creators ever since emma chamberlain like took an oath of whatever from youtube so maybe it's you oh my a comfort creator i love that yeah i'm not like you know pussy popping on the dance floor no she's not jumping out of planes like doing pranks on her grandma and like there are some funny moments but it's not even comedy like it's comfort creation that's kind of your thing oh my god i love when there's a word for what i what i'm thinking okay and speaking of words that i didn't know astroturfing i think okay do you have anything else you need to catch up on um no i guess not let's get into it okay so I'm sitting outside I forget where I was when I heard you were in my house because you were telling all of us you know but I forget which part I think I was sitting getting some sun you were getting sun yeah and I saw this

6:42lawsuit now much like everybody else everybody's initial thought was like this was Blake Lively trying to rehabilitate her image and to be honest I was staunchly team Blake in the beginning but even I saw this I was like it's very hard to prove these things there's no way she has any actual evidence. I was like, you know what? Pop off queen. Like you have a ton of money. You and your husband have endless resources. Bury him. I love it. Um, I did, I did think it was like a rehabilitation thing and it wasn't until that I read the actual, um, it's not a lawsuit. What's it called? It's a, it's her, I keep using the wrong word and all these layers like that complaint people like that's not right.

7:17I'm like, okay. Um, it wasn't until I read her complaint that I was one not only like I was right but two she has so much proof and so much evidence screenshots receipts proof timeline one of the biggest mysteries to me of this whole saga is like how did she get these people's text messages yeah I something about like in discovery when she was like suing them like you have to hand over evidence but also Melissa Jennifer the other one because a lot of people said because if you look at it it looks like it's coming from her phone yeah people thought she was subpoenaed and had to fork over the messages but she says she wasn't she has no idea how so one of them works for Jonestown PR or whatever okay and she has since since all this happened she was fired because I think she went to start her own shop and the owner of that PR company like fired her took her phone on the way out this is what I read and then happily gave it over yeah because so she can you know ruin her new biz right right oh love that and then so I feel like there's also a lot of confusion here because there was a lot of different like parties and agencies involved so melissa nathan who's kind of like the mastermind publicist of this whole thing who i have to like so much to say about but the first is that so she's a part of this company called the tag agency the agency group um so everybody's like the agency group all their clients like they're all doing grassroots astroturfing and it's actually it's actually a fairly popular um pr company i know a lot of people whose publicists are there it's not a nefarious pr company the pr company itself is not like one of these hollywood machines like okay but Melissa is like this nefarious actor who works with this company based out of Dallas who is like the astroturfing bot farm energy um masterminds so I think a lot of people are now like misunderstanding how some of the agencies work and being like everyone who works for tech PR has why can't I remember the word astroturfing has astroturfing movements against them that's actually not true it was like a special combo of Melissa and this person she knew based out of Texas who ran these types of campaigns which I had never even heard of I think what was also confusing is like Justin Baldoni is nobody in this world how does he have enough money to like put Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds out of business but it's the backer of Wayfarer Studios because this her Blake Lively's initial sexual harassment complaint against HR like would have really damaged the studio that he works with and he has a lot of no Justin his studio he is Wayfarer studios he has a partner jamie and this guy jamie who's also named in the suit for doing really fucking weird things like showing naked videos of his wife to blake lively on his phone so it's those people who are backing wayfarer studios who are paying for this because like i said like justin baldoni he's not richie rich right he's not made of money money bags baldoni that he could spend more money than them yeah and i don't even think blake first of all i'm like the most chronically online person ever i did not know that this was a thing that you could do i doubt Blake did either I think a lot of people didn't know that until recently and now it does make sense there are so many like random tweets by random people that go super viral it kind of even reminded me of holding space who the fuck was that person a real person a real person yeah happy for him but that was a positive no a studio could do that to create a moment for themselves like it could happen in a positive way or a negative way the thing is like negativity catches fire so much faster um but there are a lot of people with like these you know quote tweets block tweets with hateful opinions that go super viral and now you have to like question everything it's insane that you like that it's at this level I think like you know as big pop culture fans if someone said to me like this is what they do in Hollywood they have these bot farms and they make these fake accounts and then they all go viral I'm like that that doesn't happen like yeah that's conspiracy it is but it's not but it's not and the crazy part you're right that it is Wayfair Studios because so many people who are like who hate Blake and just like want to who the campaign worked on and don't want to believe her they're like well why didn't she just go to the studio and that's a crazy thing Justin Baldoni was the studio not only was he the director and the star it was also his production company who produced the whole film so everyone all the bosses on set the HR department it's him yeah so that's why when the SAG strike the whole thing really starts when the SAG strike happened they went on break and Blake had a meeting um just basically being like there's been like really weird behavior on set like I don't want to come back after the strike until it's all settled so there's this long list of complaints that she made that um that she asked for them to stop doing his freaks to stop doing jay and the freaks to stop doing and they like wrote it out and it's a part of this complaint so that was the first thing in the complaint that's like really damaging it's basically an admission of guilt that like they all agreed to come back to work after the sex strike because this would stop oh so you agree it was happening you know and so it's blake's thoughts in the suit that she's filing is that everything that happened to her afterwards was retribution retaliation from wafer studios but also if we discredit Blake and she ever comes out and says this no one's going to believe her for the rest of this pargylicious episode head over to patreon.com slash the toast we are going in on the Justin Blake and flaw of it all of course the flaw of it all and talking about this entire saga from start to finish while never forgetting to say that we were right this is such a fun pop culture episode because we also do a little bit of rapid fire pop culture at the end of the episode talking about all the other things that have happened since we've been off so it's a really great pop culture catch up and if you're missing your girlies head over to the patreon because we are missing you and we have so much fun content over at our patreon this month really great vlogs from this month but also if you join our patreon today you will get access to every episode we've ever done for patreon so that's over 400 episodes of content you will no longer have to miss us so dearly until we return in the new year and patreon if you've never used it it's a fab app and website if you don't want to download an app just head over to the website patreon.com slash the toast you make a login two seconds boom yadda in and you have access to all of this content that we have been doing for years and it's really pargy stuff a lot of personal stuff family stuff vlogs really fun fun times with the fam and friends there's friends 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13:24Everyone's popped into the Patreon at some point in the last seven years. So it's seven years worth of content and it's really a grand old time. So if you're looking for a little something today, head over to the Patreon and we will be back soon. We love ya and we miss ya. Bye!

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