The Super Bowl Sequel: Tuesday, February 10th, 2026

9:21Clara Wilkins:I saw such a funny tweet that was like, you think they're going to be able to find, figure out Rob's the traitor. They can't even figure out that the two figure skaters are best friends.

9:28Jackie Oshry:They've known each other for a hundred years. It's so true.

9:31Clara Wilkins:They're like this very niche sport. They do broadcasting together and no one's like knows their best friend.

9:36Jackie Oshry:This is also like day five of me asking Peacock to release the Colton files. Like where is that video of Colton finding out that Rob is the traitor? Cause I know he's going to be like, Oh, I knew it. Like no, you fucking know you fucking didn't. I check every day.

9:50Clara Wilkins:Like I'm so excited. I checked last night. What's today? Tuesday. It's they, they owe it to us.

9:55Jackie Oshry:It's great. And I know that they wait like a little bit for spoilers, which I appreciate them like looking out for their community traitors.

10:03Clara Wilkins:No, no. Okay.

10:07Jackie Oshry:Sad. I'm posted in 16 hours. Like I'm twitching. what were we talking about oh the olympics yeah so it's been fabulous we will talk about

10:16Clara Wilkins:yuta's big night last night um yes it's a great day yeah lots to do should we get into it i guess yeah i guess without further ado to do here are the fast five stories that you do need to know

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15:00Clara Wilkins:Our first story, Super Bowl recap, part two, Terties, version Terties. Here, let's get into it. The game, meh, the halftime show, the commercials, the celebrities. What are your thoughts?

15:10Jackie Oshry:So I did feel like overall, I feel like, yes, some Super Bowls are buzzier than others. Of course, Taylor and Travis. Like in years past, I think there's been so many cultural elements. So it depends on the location, too. Thousand percent. Like Vegas. Tying into the game, like outside of the game, that it lifts the whole thing up. I just feel like this year was a little lackluster in its overall glamorousness and buzziness. Like I said, I feel like people are already moved on where I think in years past we've been talking about it like for days and days and days. And of course, there were like big moments that we're going to talk about.

15:40Jackie Oshry:But overall, I would say a little underwhelming. Do you agree?

15:43Clara Wilkins:yeah the teams in the game you know i think the couple celebrity connections are like cardi b and yeah and they're like barely together i don't know just the celebrities that were there like i know

15:52Jackie Oshry:kim was there with her man like no one cares like yeah i don't know it just felt like a little it's like there's a picture of them kissing and like no one everyone thinks it's ai i believe it is ai so like they're right for that for saying that but like who knows and if i hope it's ai it's such a

16:06Clara Wilkins:weird picture yeah i agree but the celebs did all go they did they were in the halftime show let's talk about Bad Bunny what did you think okay so didn't understand a word didn't know a single

16:17Jackie Oshry:song I understand a lot of it I speak Espanol I I know you speak Espanol those two things withstanding you know what I really enjoyed it I thought it was like so colorful and you know I think we talk a lot in music about how like you know dark is cool and and like darkness and depression it's just like ugh like that Billie Eilish aesthetic yeah um and this was just like celebrating family and love there was a wedding and it was like that little kid like it was very and I do think that's very you know the Latin culture celebrates like that's what I'm always saying you know food faith family and it was that do you know what I mean I actually really enjoyed it and like I really um I wish I knew like three songs that would have made it a little bit more fun for me but as a viewer I was entertained thoroughly I liked the set like it was all very I don't know, like bright.

17:08Jackie Oshry:Yeah. And that like, I'm always looking for positive, joyful things. And that was extremely positive and joyful. I imagine if you knew the music, like it was amazing. And no, I thought he did exactly what he was supposed to do. And what he was hired to do. Yeah. Like it was, it was really, it was fun. Oh, and then like not Alex Earl being in the casita. Like I was shook. Not a Gina Krishnider's casita. Okay. I was shook. like so the concept of like there being other people like you know we always are thinking like who's he's gonna bring out I wasn't thinking he was gonna be in the casita you know Jessica Alba Cardi B now of course Jessica Alba is of Latin descent Cardi B is our Dominican queen so I wasn't expecting Alex Earl all's that to say but she is Miami like she does really represent Miami like Dave Grutman was there too he's Jewish like not but I think they represent Miami really well and I think Bad Bunny is very um like a lot of his fans and community members come from Miami so I understood it.

18:04Jackie Oshry:I was really shook to see her there and I thought she did a really good job. It had the potential to be awkward. Like you're basically just standing there dancing. Yeah. And if you've ever been to the Super Bowl, like if you're in the stadium, like you actually don't really hear a lot. It's produced for television. So I can't imagine she was hearing the song super well or like the beat super well. I thought she really played it off. It looks like a lot of the

18:20Clara Wilkins:like background characters had ears in. Oh, interesting monitors. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe that they could hear. Interesting. I have like kind of a hot take. About Lady Gaga? Yeah. Did you watch the toast yesterday? I don't think that you did. I didn't. I'm sorry. I caught up with stuff.

18:38Jackie Oshry:No, no, no.

18:38Clara Wilkins:I don't think that you did because it's so funny. Like what you're saying is exactly what I said. Okay, so let me say this. And what you're about to say is also what I said.

18:45Jackie Oshry:So I don't want to say like she ruined it by any, because whatever Gaga's around. And Die With a Smile, the number one song of the year. I fucking loved her outfit too. Like she showed up, she knew the vibes and she slayed the house down. Hair glam everything.

19:00Jackie Oshry:It was such a bad arrangement of the song. I actually liked the music. They were giving it like that sort of mariachi Latin, but she didn't change. Mariachi. I'm hanging out with you too much. Sorry, mariachi. They gave it that very Latin flair, which I love. Yeah, it was a great idea. It was. And then she started singing just like the regular old vocals. And I was shook.

19:23Clara Wilkins:As I said yesterday, it was a mashup that did not mesh. Yes, it was. It should have been a mashup, but it was a mess up. It was a mess up. It was like that was playing while that was playing. It's like someone turned the music off.

19:33Jackie Oshry:I'm trying to think of, because it was also a time recently where, maybe this happens a lot, where the performer didn't sing with the guest. They just sort of gave the floor to the guest. It did feel weird and random. I'm not mad.

19:47Clara Wilkins:They sang their own song that has nothing to do with the performer. Yeah, like it was so fucking random. And I'm sure Bruno's watching that. Like, what about...

19:55Jackie Oshry:They definitely invited Bruno. What about me? Yeah, he was... Somebody said on Twitter, like, so mad, but chained to the basement of the casino that he owes money to. I saw that on Twitter. I was cranking up. And the Super Bowl's not paid, so he couldn't go. Correct, correct. Only paid... He only gets out of his cage for paid affairs.

20:14Jackie Oshry:So... Bruno, Bruno... Like, Lady Gaga, like, actually cannot do anything wrong in my eyes. No, and she didn't do anything wrong. She didn't. She also did the job that she was paid there to do. but like the overall direction of her part felt really random. It felt misdirected. Yeah. I agree. A for effort. I love Ricky Martin.

20:30Clara Wilkins:A for effort. Great idea. Yeah. Bad execution. Still enjoyed. Never going to complain about Gaga. I'm trying to think of what they could have done better. And like Lady Gaga sings in German. Like she sings in,

20:40Jackie Oshry:she would have learned a Spanish song. No, no, no.

20:42Clara Wilkins:I like Die with a Smile Mariachi edition. I do. Do it right. No, because it also doesn't involve Bad Bunny. Oh, that's okay. They could have sung like a Selena song, you know? No, or they could have done a Lady Gaga song that would mesh better with mariachi. Well, of course, yes.

20:59Jackie Oshry:It was just weird. I thought like Ricky Martin was a, not obvious actually because I wouldn't have guessed him, but like a good person to bring out. I like when people bring people out. I think a lot of times people feel like too proud. Like they have to do it themselves. Like it's fine. Like it's good.

21:13Clara Wilkins:I like it both ways. Yeah. I like sometimes when someone, like when Lady Gaga did it herself, I loved that. Like the weekend should have brought someone out, you know?

21:21Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it depends. Yeah. So I enjoyed it. I know it was like this big, like, what will it be? And you know what? It was exactly what I think his whole vibe is. And I enjoyed it. I do, like, I am personally, and this is just like a selfish thing, I'm ready for a pop girly. It has been, we had Rihanna. Ever since Jay-Z took over for Apple Music, he really widened. It used to be, I feel like, back to back, like the pop girlies were holding it down. Even Bruno Mars. So when Jay-Z took over, like he expanded it quite a bit and just my own selfish, like I'm ready for a pop girly or a country, a country star.

21:54Jackie Oshry:So if Jay-Z's listening, like that's just what one person Turdy wants. And I would appreciate, you know, that. But beyond that, it was kind of a boring game. It's also my first Super Bowl, like being a parent. Definitely less fun.

22:08Clara Wilkins:Yeah, that's what that was the big theme yesterday. Like we were like, oh, the anthem, you mean during bath time?

22:13Jackie Oshry:Yeah, we had to pause because I was doing bath time. We have to talk about the anthem.

22:18Clara Wilkins:We have to talk about Charlie Puth. Do you have something to say? I was wrong.

22:22Jackie Oshry:And it's so funny because some of the hate that I get is like, Tony never admits that she's wrong. Mostly when it comes to the Baldoni lively case, and I'm seriously not wrong. We don't have time for that today. History will be on my side. Jackie's like, shut the fuck up. We can't take any more hate. No, I'm saying the clock is running. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

22:38Clara Wilkins:It's a 20-minute dive. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Dive into the hole.

22:41Jackie Oshry:All that to say, like, I'm always happy to admit when I'm wrong. And I had very low expectations of Charlie Puth. And I thought he did such an amazing job paying honor to our country, but to also like the greats before him. And he had posted a TikTok about how Whitney Houston's version is like the greatest. Like the pressure to do the anthem when this one exists. And then he also shared that his arrangement, like did sample her arrangement. And he really like just tried to do the whole thing with such respect for everyone and everything. I saw him being accused of using autotune because his voice is so perfect.

23:12Jackie Oshry:But that's just his thing. And I feel like it was a great night for Charlie Puth. It was also a very great night for Taylor Swift because she is right. Charlie Puth should be a bigger artist. It was so impressive. For me, if you want me to like something, put a gospel choir in there. I will be shaking my titties. Take me to church, mama. He had all the elements of it. He also played an instrument live. So he is being compared to Chris Stapleton, who recently did it vocally. It's hard enough to focus on the voice, let alone the piano or the whatever in front of you.

23:42Clara Wilkins:And then some people do too much. They're like, I want to give the anthem my all. And they are trying to prove that they can sing and play. And it's like, just do it good. We don't care what you're having to prove to us.

23:53Jackie Oshry:He didn't look nervous. His voice didn't shake.

23:55Clara Wilkins:But it felt like he understood the magnitude. Yes, that's what I mean. Like there was so much respect for everyone and everything in the performance. For him, for our founding fathers. It felt like there was respect for the country, for the flag. For the founding mothers, Whitney Houston.

24:08Jackie Oshry:For our troops.

24:09Clara Wilkins:Yes, everything. I had chills.

24:11Jackie Oshry:He really, he understood all of it. The assignment, yeah. I thought Coco Jones was incredible. I could tell she was really nervous. So, like, I felt like her voice had a little bit of a tremble to it in the beginning. I was not familiar with her game. Like, vocally, insane. I don't remember them doing, like, a concert ever before. Yeah, Green Day.

24:29Clara Wilkins:Green Day. Ben was doing bath time, so he was, like, I don't even know. We decided to not tell him that it happened. I don't think he knows. I don't think he didn't know that was happening. Because if he knew that he missed it, we'd have to go back and watch it again. And we're like, if he never knew that this happened, he wouldn't be upset that he missed it. Yeah. Let's just move forward.

24:46Jackie Oshry:And then they had all the players standing around. It was a little awkward. But it was fun. It was fresh. It was different. What else can I tell you? The commercials, maybe I'm just a jaded consumer. They did not do it for me in the way that I think in years past, I was like making people be quiet during the commercials. Like my game is on. Yeah. It's very hard to stand out. I think these days and now people do pre-commercials and we saw the Fanatics one. That's still the best one. I think I love the Pepsi one. Oh yeah. The Pepsi Zero Sugar one. Yes. And you know, this Super Bowl recap is brought to you by Pepsi Zero Sugar.

25:22Jackie Oshry:I loved their commercial. First of all, it's nice to feel represented in modern media. And a fun fact about me that a lot of people don't know is I prefer Pepsi. I actually really do. And I think that we get so bogged down by labels in this country. In society. In society. And we're kind of label obsessed. And what about the product? What about quality? What about taste? And I loved to see a commercial taking that conversation seriously. And I really related to that cola loving bear. in the commercial, sort of working through those feelings. I went through that process. He's a little delayed. I went through that process years ago.

26:03Jackie Oshry:I had been making Pepsi Zero Sugar and the Pepsi brand. I had been making them cool for years. But it was nice to see my personal experience being represented on the world's greatest stage.

26:17Clara Wilkins:On the big screen. You experienced the Pepsi paradox for yourself. Years ago. Years ago. when everything is taken out, labels, brands, and you're looking at and tasting two products, you're going Pepsi Zero Sugar. And we've always said that.

26:33Jackie Oshry:We've always said quality over image. And I get it. I've been in a place where I've become obsessed with what people think of me and the world's perception. And much like that bear, when you have that sort of come to life moment, it can be devastating at first and then you're unstoppable. Your world opens up. So during the 2025 revival of the Pepsi Challenge, did you guys, you might not know this, 66 % of people said that they preferred the taste of Pepsi Zero Sugar over Coca-Cola Zero Sugar. Pepsi won 100 % of markets in the 2025 Pepsi Challenge. Yes, even Atlanta. Enter the Pepsi Paradox. I have chills just talking about it.

27:13It's so shocking.

27:15Jackie Oshry:And I am a certified Pepsi girl. And I feel like when people label you, you know, like diet soda, they never say Pepsi.

27:21Clara Wilkins:No, and everyone wants to say like this one's better, that one's better. But there's nothing more truth telling than a blind taste test.

27:27Jackie Oshry:I highly recommend. I want everyone to kind of stop and think about, you know, what they think they know about these beverages. And give Pepsi Zero Sugar a chance. You're going to be floored at the taste. And much like the bear, like I'm not, you don't have to do like a blind taste test and like start. I mean, you can and like film it for TikTok. But like you don't need to put a blindfold on. Try and leave everything you know about these brands at the door. And I think that's kind of what we're always saying, right?

27:54Clara Wilkins:About being open to changing your mind and not doing what you just think the world wants you to do or say.

28:01Jackie Oshry:No, and not staying on the surface. Not surface lyrics. I'm trying not to get emotional about the commercial, but it's so much deeper than that. Do you know what I mean? I think as you get older, I don't know. I think you care less about these sort of, I'm actually getting choked up. Labels, call me what you want.

28:18Clara Wilkins:Yes, I love Pepsi Zero Sugar. I'm a Pepsi Zero Sugar loving bear. That's who I am. It chills. That's why I wear these bears, to represent the cola loving bear who prefers Pepsi Zero Sugar. And it was actually quite emotional to see him go through that journey, don't you think? And to be able to admit, maybe I've been wrong. And that's kind of a theme of today's episode, you know?

28:39Jackie Oshry:And I said it just a few minutes ago. Like, I am not one too big to admit when I've been wrong. No, neither was he. And it was nice to see that represented on the world's largest stage. It was. I think that's a message literally everyone could learn from. In all aspects of your life, but especially about what we're putting into our bodies.

28:56Clara Wilkins:Yeah. Especially about taste. And just because you've done something one way for so long, it's never too late to change.

29:02Jackie Oshry:And of course, I hate to make everything about myself, but I feel as though I must. But I think that's the point of a good commercial is to see yourself in it and make it about yourself. I feel vindicated, of course. I have been ahead of the curve the entire time. And I think a lot of people are now coming to this conclusion after seeing it on such a big stage. And it does feel kind of better. I'm better than everyone. Like I had this realization like actually 10 years ago. I want to say when I was in college.

29:31Clara Wilkins:And like we could say like turdy was right, which would sort of balance out when you said you were wrong earlier. Like now you're like the scales are even.

29:38Jackie Oshry:And it's again, not to make everything about myself. It does feel like people are confronting their life choices as a result of this commercial. And I confronted those choices years ago.

29:49Clara Wilkins:Yeah.

29:49Jackie Oshry:Yeah.

29:51Clara Wilkins:You didn't need this push. You're bigger than everyone else. But it's good that other people are now seeing what you've already seen and tasting what you've already tasted.

30:00Jackie Oshry:Highly recommend you trying Pepsi Zero Sugar. Do your own mini Pepsi challenge with your loved ones. Have those hard conversations. That's really fun. Have those hard conversations and you will not regret it. Don't let the label decide. Let your taste decide.

30:14Clara Wilkins:That's really beautiful. And a message that I want to take into all aspects of daily life. And specifically the Fast Five, of course. And specifically the Fast Five. Our next story. Oh, okay. We're done with it.

30:25Jackie Oshry:Let me just think anything else about the Super Bowl. Anything else about the Super Bowl.

30:28Clara Wilkins:Oh, Licks and Raid? Oh, we talked about it yesterday. I mean, we can't get a bigger Licks Rad fan. Than Olivia Oshry? Than Olivia Oshry.

30:35Jackie Oshry:Did you hear her? Of course. She's so funny. did you see the video it came out today him grabbing her tushy no yeah it was just like it actually wasn't a grab i want to say it was like a soft caress it was quite where is it she's the leading source shout out to du moins i feel like du moins went through kind of like an a shake-up where people stopped trusting du moins um during covid it was like the bible and then there were a couple and i just feel like she didn't know what to do with her platform and now she is the leading news source on alex earl and tom brady and i'm like happy for her to have found her new niche yeah and personally she's my go-to like i live for it

31:11Clara Wilkins:yeah i do i've actually noticed a change in do more i feel like it's not really like blind items no it's more like a media site i feel like they've hired it's very boots on the ground like people like this it's like a just jared news like yeah but it's very um internet which i think it's

31:26Jackie Oshry:everything's like packaged for virality it's kind of brilliant i think she's slaying even though she's getting hate because she posted the uh allegedly ai photo of lewis hamilton and kim kardashian kissing and people are like please do not post ai generated content and she can't prove that it is ai and she can't prove that she posted this photo as ai oh she did yeah it's in the caption oh okay well that's that yeah um so alex orland tamper yeah he touched her to she um

31:54Clara Wilkins:that's really crazy it was crazy i mean i'm sure they're doing crazier but like that's really wild

31:58Jackie Oshry:It was crazy on the Super Bowl stage. They did like the Hall of Fame. Everybody came out of that photo booth with their jackets on. And it was just crazy to see him there. It's like, oh, that's Alex Earl's situation ship.

32:08Clara Wilkins:Yeah.

32:08Jackie Oshry:And they were both on the field. That's my girl right there. I just love her. Slay mama. You think so now you think they're. Yeah, well, they both do live in Miami. So I think that they hold even though she's been like exclusively in L.A. I hope she doesn't move. Well, she came back for Sally's birthday. Yes, of course. I don't think Tom was at the 25 hour affair. I hope not. He cannot hang. I really hope, though, that she. Happy birthday, Sally. Happy birthday, Sally. Hope your party was amazing. I know that she has a place in L.A. and for Dancing with the Stars, it was great. And it's good to have a place there because she probably has to go a lot for work.

32:38Jackie Oshry:But I really hope she does not move to L.A. I think there aren't a lot of things like she could do right now that would derail her success. And I'm not saying her moving to L.A. would, but I don't think it would be good. I think what people love about her is that she's just like that girl from Miami. It's such a part of her image. And so he lives in Miami. So I think they've probably hung out between St. Bart's and now. Insane. Insane? Mm-hmm. What the fuck do they talk about?

33:03Clara Wilkins:Maybe like, as Olivia said, like being goats.

33:07Jackie Oshry:Yeah, goatness. Olivia's so funny. Olivia's so funny. I'm at a place where I've kind of accepted. When I first saw them in St. Bart's, I was still in the shock phase of the whole thing. Now I'm in like a digesting. Like, okay, I see you. Okay. I guess this is what we're doing.

33:26Clara Wilkins:Yeah. I'm still in disbelief. Like, I actually don't believe it, even though allegedly he grabbed her tushy. But I do want to talk about some other goats. If we may switch subjects. To the big news of the day, Utah Leardom won gold at the Olympics. Jake Paul's fiance, she broke an Olympic speed skating record in Milano Cortina. Yesterday, she came in first place in the women's 1 ,000 meter. Jake posted a video of him hysterically crying when she crossed the finish line. And then when she saw that she won and she broke the record, like they're so emo. The black tear. It was giving Lauren Conrad.

34:01Clara Wilkins:100%. Because she always wears her iconic eye makeup. And then she got it together for the podium. Oh, of course, no. And like, oh, good.

34:09Jackie Oshry:This was one of like my hallmark moments. Like I've been waiting. Yeah. When it comes to the Olympics, like things I want to see was her speed skate. Not only did she win gold, which was her goal. She set a new Olympic record. So it was just like an insane feat. and if you watch Paul American you know that like a part of their story is like her personally sacrificing like so much not being with her fiance and training like for the sake of this goal and even if she didn't get it like it would have been a valiant effort but like the fact that she did

34:36Clara Wilkins:makes it all so worth it and now she can ride off to this in the sunset with Jake in peace move to Puerto Rico not always be like chasing the Olympic dream because she's climbed the mountain She's reached the summit and now she can move on.

34:50Jackie Oshry:I also didn't realize how big of a deal she was in the Netherlands. Like she's kind of like a Katie Ledecky. I was trying to think of like a similar athlete. She's so beloved. And like the announcers on the live broadcast were saying like, you know, she's five million followers. It was giving like so chokey. They were like, she's five million dollars. And then they cut to the broadcast in Dutch and like how the commenters were screaming Like she is this like a Michael Phelps of her generation. And she's so beloved. And I didn't ride of her country. I didn't know that people speed skating is a huge sport.

35:24Jackie Oshry:To me, it's like so random. But in the Netherlands, it's like swimming for us or figure skating. So she is this. Enormous. I didn't realize they had this whole party for her. Did you see her like going on stage at this like Dutch party? Like it's been such a fabulous saga of events. I love her.

35:44Clara Wilkins:um no I think she's like my number one athlete in this Olympics of like who I am rooting for yeah and she won gold like this is amazing I wonder if she still has more races or this is it

35:55Jackie Oshry:I don't know I saw her at the party and like it was giving it's over um also her like she's just also the best influencer she's like an Ilona Mar type different types of content but you know come with me here's what we're meeting at the Olympic

36:07Clara Wilkins:Village and I just live for it yeah and so she flew private she did what she had to do I completely endorse her decision to fly private. Also, they talked about in Paul American how she's had like a bit of drama, like going out on her own as an independent contractor. Like she left the team that was training her because she wasn't like getting what she needed. And so, yeah, she's kind of like flying solo, literally. And she flew solo. And I'm fine with that. And it's actually amazing that she it really speaks to her talent. And I feel like if she was sitting next to other people on the plane, she wouldn't have been able to win.

36:37Jackie Oshry:Also, I've been watching a lot of speed skating and it's low-key insane how they skate completely perpendicular like oh my god my back could never and so yeah she needs a big jet to stretch out on like she's training half bent over the entire day yeah her back must kill her well no because she's doing it right yeah it's it's been a

36:56Clara Wilkins:wonderful way to end her like athletic career i'm and we need season two of paul american because we need to see the behind the scenes of course he i saw a camera like they were well they film everything and then he wrote in his caption like you'll see it in the documentary like i wouldn't be surprised if he makes a documentary about her stop i love her um and i guess she's like moving

37:15Jackie Oshry:to puerto rico i know jake paul's like packing up her things while she's at the race like stop i can't it was really beautiful it was and it's just like it's so impressive you know

37:24Clara Wilkins:yeah it's so impressive congrats yuta no this is so major of the neanderthals of the neanderthal speed skating team our next story first promo just dropped for Taylor Frankie Paul as the bachelorette wondering if she's worthy of love so Taylor Frankie Paul is our next bachelorette they put out a teaser video set to look what you made me do she's like walking through a hallway in a red dress like with all like you know content of her throughout the years on the walls and then she busts through the glass and she's like maybe I'll just be myself and then she's wearing her um the season premieres March 22nd it did bring me back like there was a time when the bachelor promo dropped and every year was like it was a super bowl like when we and then like a dress

38:12Jackie Oshry:made out of flowers and then what song they were going to use it literally made songs I remember fifth harmony that's my girl like any song they chose like was the song of the year their impact at one point just reminded me this clip like of how much has changed but like how big their impact was for like my young adult life um it was giving like really scripted it was kind of weird I thought

38:31Clara Wilkins:I thought it was giving low budget. I thought it was weird. Okay. I hate to be a hater. And I was glad that it wound up being like the glam was the point of the glam was that it wasn't for her and she shut it off. Because when I was watching her in that dress, I'm like, that dress is wearing her. Like it wasn't a moment at all. I was like, this is not glamorous. And maybe the point was to be like, yeah, that because she's not comfortable, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it just felt like low budget. And you know, the whole thing was on a green screen. So she's just like walking around a green screen.

38:58Clara Wilkins:And then they added all this shit.

39:00Jackie Oshry:And I guess they're like playing into a storyline, which is her life. It's not a storyline, but like that, you know, she chooses these terrible people because it's sort of like a projection of how she feels, you know, how she sees herself. And I don't know. It didn't just give me a lot of confidence because I feel like when you go to the bathroom, you should be ready. Like you should have answered these questions.

39:22Clara Wilkins:No, I'm not feeling a lot of confidence in the actual like relationship that will come out of the show. Like I think it will be really entertaining. I love her. I just want to watch her. But I agree. Like I don't know if she's like ready to meet the one.

39:37Jackie Oshry:Right. All these in past when I think of like the girls whose promos like stuck with me. It's like, you know, they are so ready for this. They know who they are. They won't accept anything less. And, you know, you're supposed to go on the bachelor journey when that self-discovery journey has ended. And it feels like her self-discovery journey and her bachelor journey are the same journey.

39:58Clara Wilkins:And that's never good. They say you shouldn't do that. Like you can't love someone until you love yourself. You can't find someone until you find yourself. Yeah. So not to be like so deep, but it was a weird one. Yeah. And then the promo picture is like her busting out of a Barbie box. And it says like if you don't fit the mold, break it with like a bunch of like things around her.

40:15Jackie Oshry:Wait, can we talk about I sent it to you? I forget if it was New York Magazine or New Yorker because I actually get them confused. I think it was New York. New York Magazine did this cover story. Let me just read it. It was about how like Mormons are taking over popular culture. I literally DM'd it to you because I was so shocked. Okay. Yeah. So I DM you a lot. Just give me two seconds.

40:34Clara Wilkins:A lot of content back and forth.

40:36Jackie Oshry:Oh, maybe I put it in text.

40:38Clara Wilkins:Or yeah. Yeah. I think it's in our text.

40:41Jackie Oshry:Okay. So it was New York Magazine and it was one, two, three, four, seven Mormon women. And it says, ding dong. Do you have a moment to talk about how Mormons conquered pop culture? A report from Utah. So on the cover is Taylor Frankie Paul, Whitney Layavid, and Jessie Draper from the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Mormon Sex Lives, which are, of course, three Mormon women. And then there's also Whitney Carson representing how so many of the dance pros on Dancing with the Stars train in Utah and are Mormon. Hannah Neely, of course, ballerina or farm. Heather Gay, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

41:14Jackie Oshry:And then in the back corner, Rach Parcell, who is a fixture here. We talk about her all the time. She is one of the real OG mommy Mormon YouTube bloggers. When we think of like mommy Mormon, she is the blueprint. Everybody copies her. She's got the big house. She's got the hundred kids. Like she's got, she is that girl. Now the weird thing and why I sent it to Jackie is because we've got Taylor Frankie Paul. Running center and then everyone else sort of like fans out. Yeah. And it's interesting because a lot of, you know, being a public figure and just like being a woman is, you know, we notice when you look different.

41:41Jackie Oshry:The picture of Heather Gay is so recent. It is, you know, she's put, says she's on a GLP one. So it's post her like sort of glow up. It's present. It's present day. The Whitney Levitt picture is her red hair. So it's like seriously from the last year at least.

41:56Clara Wilkins:Yeah, but also it's, she's also been on a journey. It's from yesterday. Yeah, she lost weight. So it's literally from yesterday.

42:02Jackie Oshry:The Jesse Draper photo, because Jesse Draper is always really public about her plastic surgeries, procedures, and she just recently got one done and she looks like very different from it. And this picture of Jesse Draper is from 24 hours ago. Like it's so recent. the picture of Rachel Parcell has to be 15 years old it's so weird that they did that it's like so deliberate and like mean but why her? I don't know it's so weird it's insane she looks 17 in the picture I think it's like her wedding photo

42:35Clara Wilkins:I don't know if it's meant to be shady or whatever or lazy like they just like looked up Rachel Parcell and didn't like even know that you know she doesn't really look like that anymore because she's grown

42:45Jackie Oshry:And it is like I got sidelined by the picture they chose for Rachel Parcell, but it is like a good call about how like Mormons really do right now in pop culture, like are kind of taking over every major. I didn't even realize like how all the Dancing with the Stars people are more Utah Mormons. There is this like obsession, like fixation with Mormon culture. And then, of course, the comments were like so interesting to read because half the people were like, you know, these people aren't Mormon. Why are you listening to Mormon? Like so.

43:13Clara Wilkins:Well, I just think they're fascinating. They're fascinating. They're beautiful and interesting. And I think a lot of the things that like they value are things that we find entertaining. Yeah. You know, like beauty and family.

43:26Jackie Oshry:Right. Like I think a huge tenant in their religion is like seeking perfection, like always to be like doing your best, looking your best, family. Like so that makes for good TV and just good, interesting things to follow.

43:36Clara Wilkins:And I think it's a I mean, I wonder I'm sure the the church isn't thrilled about it because they would rather see like, you know, perfect Mormons or whatever. But like, I think that actually it's a net positive for a Mormon Q score. I completely agree. I bet the church like is pissed about it. But I feel like it's especially considering the last big thing was like Book of Mormon.

43:58Jackie Oshry:So that's what I was going to say is that like up until like the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City and all these shows, like the only real thing I knew about Mormonism was that. Broadway show. I saw it. And they made the best for the Mormons. No. So I imagine that they're thrilled with the.

44:17Clara Wilkins:The change of tone. Yeah. But I don't think they're thrilled. No. But I do think it is better. It is good for them. Yeah, me too. Our next story. Oh, Mark Anthony is speaking out about the Beckham family feud. The man at the center of the drama. Oh, I didn't see this.

44:34Jackie Oshry:Yes.

44:35Clara Wilkins:So Mark Anthony told the Hollywood Reporter he was discussing, you know, the drums. And he said they're a wonderful, wonderful family. He said, I've known them since before the kids were born. I'm godfather to Cruz. I'm really close to the family, but I have nothing to say about what happened there. It's extremely unfortunate how it's playing out, but how it's playing out is hardly the truth, he said. OK, so he said a whole bunch of nothing, but then a little at the end. So he's at the center of the drama because allegedly he performed at the wedding a very romantic special song. and he called up the most beautiful woman in the room, Victoria Beckham.

45:05Clara Wilkins:And apparently like it was sort of like him, the villain in the story, unless Victoria told him to do that. It was just him wanting to celebrate his beautiful friend, Victoria Beckham. Yeah. Before Brooklyn and Nicola had their first dance. And apparently Brooklyn and Victoria weren't supposed to have a dance, which is disgusting for boy mamas everywhere.

45:25Jackie Oshry:Agreed. That was like, I know, like I see things through my own lens, but that's definitely where my mind went. So if it was a surprise mother son dance, that means there was no dance to begin with?

45:33Clara Wilkins:I'm on the side of reels of like, of boy. I don't want to say toxic boy mamas. It's like boy mamas who stand with Victoria Beckham. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah. And it's like all of them dancing with Spice Girls, talking about how they're going to dance. Mama, I love you. At their son's wedding.

45:50Jackie Oshry:Mama, I kill.

45:55Jackie Oshry:Okay. I didn't see that Marc Anthony had spoken out. I kind of was waiting for him to say something. And while he didn't really get involved, you could read between the lines. And he's saying, they're a bunch of lying snobs.

46:04Clara Wilkins:He's saying, fuck that bitch, Nicola.

46:06Jackie Oshry:Lying snobs, yeah. Lying brats.

46:08Clara Wilkins:Yeah. Brats. I'll ship them off to Switzerland. Parent Trap? Yeah. Parent Trap was like a side of It Takes Two. You know what I mean? Because Clarice and Meredith Blake are the same person.

46:22Jackie Oshry:Nobody talks enough about It Takes Two. Rest in peace, Kirstie Alley. One of the best movies ever made. Dennis Quaid who's no no I'm getting Confused with Parent Trap who's like the hot dad It feels like

46:35Clara Wilkins:But it also feels like the dad From Little Giants

46:39Jackie Oshry:It takes to IMDB 1995 I need to watch this movie Again Alyssa and Amanda So real Alyssa and Amanda The cast is Steve Guttenberg Oh of course Steve Guttenberg he's so fucking classic Roger Calloway Yeah. Ugh, I fucking love this movie. Loki, there was a time where Christy Alley was like banging out. Look Who's Talking, that movie with John Travolta about the babies who talk. I need to rewatch it because like it's the best movie ever made. Yeah. And then I think they came out with like three sequels because it was that good. And each sequel was amazing.

47:17Clara Wilkins:And Clarice sort of got. Who's the actress who plays Clarice? Jane Sibbett. She got sort of like shoehorned into playing like me. Evil stepmother. Yeah, because she was also in Au Pair. Remember that movie?

47:27Jackie Oshry:Of course I remember au pair. That was a crazy movie.

47:32Clara Wilkins:It was an amazing movie. And it did, I think, really good wonders for the au pair community. Everyone wants an au pair.

47:39Jackie Oshry:There's nothing more fabulous than an au pair.

47:42Clara Wilkins:Yeah. But it's not what you think. No, I know. It's like.

47:44Jackie Oshry:But I'm saying it's an au pair. So it is. But it sounds really fabulous. Yeah. No, like the life of an au pair is actually really dark. Really? Yeah. You like get paid nothing. And a lot of the dads are like predatory because it's just like an excuse to hire like a beautiful young woman.

47:56Clara Wilkins:Yeah. I don't. I think I'm going to get a governess. A governess is what you think in O 'Paris. Correct. You need a governess. Big time. Will you be my governess? I would be an amazing governess. You would. Dream job. Literally. Live in a castle. Are you ready for our fifth and final story? I am. Kim Kardashian appears to be cheered on by Lewis Hamilton as she attempts the Titanic challenge with her sisters, Chloe and Kim. Shockingly, last night, Kylie posted a video of the sisters doing the Titanic challenge. like did you also think it was a throwback video no i was more so listening like because there were a lot of men like laughing in the background like it was like giving date night i was thinking timothy's there because kylie posted it and the sisters were hanging out and like men were laughing i guess it could have been rob but like that's so not interesting no i feel like rob doesn't hang out with them it better not have been rob um but now they're saying that they think it's lewis hamilton like hanging with the sisters but i could also see like lewis and timothy like wanting to

48:51Jackie Oshry:hang oh definitely yeah i really thought i don't know if there was like a filter on the video it looked like a snapchat video from the king kylie era and she was like reposting it well the vibes were snapchat of like giggling in the living room yeah and like kylie never hangs out with her sister so i thought for sure she like was posting this throwback video from the last time she hung

49:07Clara Wilkins:out with her sister right because she doesn't post stuff like this anymore i was honestly shocked that she posted it was just like so silly and kim had like long a long ponytail it was giving like the miami era yeah okay i'm not okay but i don't think it was a throwback at all i think it was like last night or the night before well the night before was super bowl so literally like maybe it's from the super bowl night maybe they were like all watching oh no kim was at the super and and chloe and kylie were in but kendall was i wasn't like looking in the background trying to

49:33Jackie Oshry:hear voices because i thought i don't know it was probably like ray j in the background like i thought

49:37Clara Wilkins:it was so old chris humphreys no so there were like men chuckling and i thought it was timothy because it's like men should never laugh like never broke bitches should never laugh um sorry continue um but it it seems to be lewis hamilton i don't know why you guys think lewis i'm going timothy but it could also be both i don't think it's like a multiple people hang night i don't think timothy would find this funny like i couldn't see him laughing at this you know but if kylie thought it was funny yeah and he loves kylie yeah and i don't think she would like do something that he finds like stupid yeah they also have been together for five years like

50:14Jackie Oshry:i think they think less about like should i do this in front of him i think they're comfortable

50:18Clara Wilkins:around each other. Just a guess. Yeah, and really happy.

50:21Jackie Oshry:The way I like actually don't care that Kim's dating Lewis Hamilton, like it's so not doing it for me. I agree. It's actually doing the opposite for me. But I think that's more so like a reflection of where I'm personally at with Kim. Like it's nothing about Lewis self. Yeah. Which is just like a real indifference.

50:36Clara Wilkins:Yeah, I was talking about this with Olivia yesterday when she was asking like which one you vibe with the most. And I was just saying like. Chloe. But it also changes. Yeah, sorry, Chris. Like Chris is eternal. But also Kylie. Yeah, but Kylie. And like, by the way, when I'm talking about the show, Courtney, sometimes Courtney, frustrating about sometimes Kim, like there was a period. Yes. A couple years ago. Yes. You know, and it's not like she's done something wrong, but like you just, you evolve. Everything flows and it's all good. It's all good vibes, you know? Yeah. But to me, like Chris is who she is and she has been forever.

51:05Jackie Oshry:So like I'm going Chris.

51:07Clara Wilkins:But I also could like, if Kim dated someone like interesting to me right now, it could change every, it could bust a case wide open. It's true. And instead she's not.

51:15Jackie Oshry:She needs to just do something different and date like someone ugly and poor.

51:19Clara Wilkins:No, no. Sure. But like also a celebrity. Even when she dated Pete Davidson, that was so interesting. Yeah. Something different. And so buzzy. Yeah. And I'm open. It'll be hard for her though. Even if she was dating like Tom Brady, I'd be like yawn. Agreed. I'll have to noodle on it. Yeah.

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55:53Jackie Oshry:Okay. If you want to write in, our email is deartosters at gmail.com or you can head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Scroll down, little submission box. Both are totally anonymous. We'll never blow up your spot. We don't use real names or things of that nature. Hello, swirlies. I recently found out that my boyfriend's family created a separate group chat without me but included the other brother's girlfriend am I wrong for feeling upset that he didn't tell me and that he never asked anyone in his family why the new chat was created without me I'm newer to the family and I'm trying to be understanding but it makes me sad to think that he didn't even question it when the new chat was made or give me a heads up about it by the way his mom is the one who added me to the original chat not him

56:28Clara Wilkins:okay I don't think this is a big deal I think there are a lot of permutations of chat and whichever chat pops off like just speaks to the nature of the people in the chat but like there's no reason why that chat should be more vibrant than the chat that you're in and if you want to be involved in more chat things then write in the chat you're in and make that the one sure I also think it's

56:47Jackie Oshry:just like simply a seniority thing like family chats like I don't know how serious people take it but like you really only get added when you're like and you said that this girlfriend has been with the brother longer than you so I just feel like maybe your time's not in yet and like it's actually nice that they have a chat with you yeah but the og family chat like you're not you haven't sort of been there long enough to be a part of and your boyfriend not telling you like i i want to say one he's a man he probably didn't like notice or really care and two like it was probably more in service of your feelings why do you need to know about a chat that you're not in

57:18Clara Wilkins:yeah i agree and you are in a chat right and there are just like a lot normalized having like all different combinations of chats without this person without because what's worse than like being in a chat that doesn't apply to you right this is so kardashians like talking about the

57:33Jackie Oshry:chats but we have so many chats and like some i guess someone could be like oh my god how am i

57:37Clara Wilkins:not in that chat well it's like it doesn't hurt it doesn't apply to you it doesn't apply to you and the one that applies to you you are in there is a version that applies to you yeah i think

57:46Jackie Oshry:you're like looking way too much into the chat i'm trying to think like if you guys get married

57:49Clara Wilkins:and everything you will be in this chat forever like it's it's all coming like you don't need to

57:53Jackie Oshry:rush this stuff yeah I agree um and I certainly wouldn't be mad at your boyfriend like there are definitely things like you should be mad at him for I'm sure like he didn't take out the garbage but like this is really not one of them no it's so important to pick our battles yeah I agree and

58:06Clara Wilkins:like this comes in time like I feel like people in I don't know how long you've been dating for but I feel like people just like think that they are owed this just by dating like no all of it first of all it unfolds organically when you are needed when they're going on a trip and let's have a chat like these things you can't just be like put me in the chat like yeah it no whenever when there's a group photo you want to send it to everyone then all of a sudden we have a chat like let the chips fall where they may let the chats fall where they may don't force it it will happen organically and then if they continue on this path if you like force it and they put you in and then it's like no one's gonna write in the chat because like it's just awkward and like yeah you're there are things that's just not for everyone not for everyone all the time like you will get there and then soon you'll be in the chat and they don't stop writing and you're like get me out of the chat.

58:50Clara Wilkins:So just accept where you are right now.

58:52Jackie Oshry:This next one felt like deeply personal. Oh, hello. Is this postpartum rage or am I justified? Which could be a whole new segment. I just want to say, cause nobody talks about postpartum rage. I actually had a lot of pregnancy rage too. People talk a lot about like the different emotions. Like a lot of people get like very emotional, very sad or whatever. I experienced mostly rage, fiery, passionate rage about mostly directed at bed. I'm a new mom and I love my husband. I've never, he's never given me a reason to question him. After numerous asks to throw away his vape because we have a daughter now and swearing that he was done, I caught him on the security camera using one again.

59:26Jackie Oshry:When I confronted him, he completely lied a little too well. And only when I confessed that I watched him on the camera, did he slowly then start to admit to it, saying that he lied because he knew that I didn't like the vape. Is this shady? Am I being hormonal? Like, what is the proper reaction?

59:39Clara Wilkins:So to me, sitting here, having no personal stake in it, this like doesn't sound like a huge deal. However, to you, there have been multiple crimes committed here that have to do with your daughter health your partner's health lying trust betrayal all of this while you are in a very fragile state so i understand for you dear reader why you're seeing red and i'm not going to stop you and i

1:00:00Jackie Oshry:am coming at this as a former vape addict just to perhaps like color the situation a little bit like i want to assume that he's trying his best it's so hard might i recommend quit with jones um

1:00:15I don't think like you should reprimand him.

1:00:20Clara Wilkins:No, I'm putting myself in her shoes. I'm irate. I actually just been pregnant for 10 months. I've just given birth. Perhaps I'm breastfeeding. I'm giving everything I have to our child. You can't stop vaping for one minute. And then you would lie to my face. The woman who birthed your, oh, I'm sick. Yeah. I'm sick. It's not about the vape. No, I do sympathize. The fact that you can't make one small change when I change everything about myself, my body, my mind.

1:00:48Jackie Oshry:Sorry, not me taking the side of the husband. No, that's what I mean.

1:00:51Clara Wilkins:When I sit here, I'm like from the outside, I'm like, oh, he vaped, whatever. But like, no, no, no. When I'm in that bed, I'm holding that baby and I see my husband sleeping on the camera. Oh, I'm sick.

1:00:58Jackie Oshry:And of course, like it does make me question like the obsession with putting this phallic like thing in his mouth. Like perhaps he's gay. Like you can't stop sucking on the vape. Well, maybe that explains some other things.

1:01:11Clara Wilkins:I'm mad for you. Yeah, no, the more Jackie's right, I forgot. You're entitled to be enraged. It's not a big deal, though. And don't let this steal your joy. No. This is such a joyful time. But this is the exact sort of thing that just gets a postpartum woman riled up. Because when we've done what we've done, You really have to do everything. You have no excuse to step out of line when we've done what we've done. Considering what we have done. And what we will do and what we are doing.

1:01:40Jackie Oshry:what we will continue to do mind you there's no excuse yeah and also send him quit with jones we

1:01:47Clara Wilkins:have a we have a code it's not about the thing no like now you have to find the solution for him respect yeah and the refusal to change and improve yeah when i've done what i've done it's true

1:01:59Jackie Oshry:it's really beautiful okay ready for our next to third and final my husband wants to quit his very well-paying job his boss is very toxic and my husband is very miserable the problem is he doesn't really have a backup plan. He wants to freelance. He's confident that he'll make even more money than he does now in his field by freelancing. And he will have much more freedom and flexibility. He doesn't want to wait to find a backup plan. He's so over it and ready to use our emergency savings in the interim. Also, this is not the first time he's gotten really sick of a job because of a terrible boss.

1:02:26Jackie Oshry:Our corporate boss is usually terrible managers or is my husband the problem? It's very possible like your husband has had multiple toxic bosses. Like I would like to know how many is it like every single one because then it's like, yeah, you're the problem but the thing is like I don't really care um one thing about me like my toxic traditionalist comes out in dear toasters I'm like I'm sorry this man is a provider that's his literally job um and his boss is toxic what are you a girl like figure it out yeah I like I literally don't care about his happiness and if he wants to quit and be a freelancer like he now needs to spend the next six months to a year building a freelance business seeing like you can't just like figure it out like i'm sorry you're a man no there's like bills to pay while you're figuring jackie like if he had this sort of side hustle that he thought he could take full time like there was a little bit of infrastructure there i would say you know what maybe he could

1:03:17Clara Wilkins:take a little bit and like you never like quit your full-time job until your side hustle

1:03:22Jackie Oshry:eclipses that that's my biggest issue with shark tank they always get mad at people who have like full-time jobs like sorry i have a family yeah like i hate that shit like toxic entrepreneur work culture no like you can build your side hustle till it's at a point where you think if you then had you know x more hours in the day you could really crush it like a little bit of a risk a jump there having nothing like what are you like a 17 year old girl like yeah no no sorry i say fuck no i don't even care if he's the toxic one maybe he is maybe he isn't sorry you have to go

1:03:50Clara Wilkins:to work no someone who has like an issue with at every workplace like they are the problem but she said only like this one and the one before so like maybe it definitely could be a coincidence

1:03:58Jackie Oshry:and there are a lot of corporate bosses and managers who are just like so high on their own supply like there should be a study it's like why people come the worst versions of themselves when they get like a little bit of power in the corporate office like that's totally real yeah

1:04:10Clara Wilkins:that's totally real it is but you go you do your thing you come home and if you don't like it work out you have to have a plan b like before nights and weekends ditch plan a nights and motherfucking

1:04:20Jackie Oshry:weekends not cool not cool and like i hate to get to like the breakup with your boyfriend thing but like is it a boyfriend it's a husband I don't know like a husband who's not eager to provide

1:04:30Clara Wilkins:like it sounds like he thinks he's eager to provide because he's gonna go do he's not saying like I'm who's so risky like that to me but this is also like pompous to think oh I'll just consult

1:04:39Jackie Oshry:what if I just consulted it's like not yeah this is definitely like a personal thing like I'm aware of my own like things that I really value are like stability I don't like to take risks especially when it comes to money and like I think a home needs to be like a stable and if your job is boring and unfulfilling you're like that's just too fucking bad yeah um but that's that's i'm not saying that's the right way to be that's how i think things should be so are you this like sort of willy-nilly freelance like flower hair in the wind type of gal or do you also sort of value those pillars of stability yeah um and security because if that's the case like maybe it's not a match i

1:05:15Clara Wilkins:think he needs to establish like proof of concept before he can obviously quit his job like as as a

1:05:22Jackie Oshry:Man, quitting a job and like going out on your own is such a big thing. And I think more precautions need to be put into place.

1:05:33Clara Wilkins:Agreed.

1:05:34Jackie Oshry:Thank you to everybody who wrote in. That's Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment. And that is also our show, the Super Bowl sequel.

1:05:41Clara Wilkins:The Super Bowl sequel. I love that.

1:05:44Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it literally just came to me. That's my creative process.

1:05:46Clara Wilkins:I love in the 11th hour when it just comes to us. Because I was thinking like, what the fuck are we going to do? Super Bowl turkeys version. Right. Turdy in the title. You know how we feel about that. I love it. Jackie hates it. No, no, no. I don't hate it. No, Jackie hates having her names in the title. No, or when the titles are like so niche because I want to attract a lot of listeners. That's beautiful. And new people. So I think the Super Bowl sequel, people are like, oh, I like the Super Bowl. Then they are these two morons.

1:06:09Jackie Oshry:And they're like, okay, this is not what I thought it was. I'll try the daily. Thank you guys so much for listening to the Tesla Monday Morning Show where we deliver the fast five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give us a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast can be found. So it's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, I-Radio Cast Talks, other places where you listen to podcasts, find us a totally best-to-review of a beautiful setting, and we can lay down the way.

1:06:30Clara Wilkins:Love ya. Bye.

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