The Toast Files with Natalie Joy Viall: Tuesday, June 24th, 2025

30:22Like they, it's a part-time job. So they also have other jobs, but like the amount of work that goes into being a DCC and like the, especially when you think about like what the men are getting paid to play football. Right. It was just obviously like. It's sexist. They hate us. It's sexist, not fair. and now they're making it right. And I feel like they always made the argument, you know, like it's an amazing platform and like it's a networking thing. And like, you know, you get all these other perks from being DCC and it's not even about the money, which is also true. But like now they also have a Netflix show and like now the DCC brand is even bigger.

30:54And it's like, okay, it's time to pay the girls. They remind me so much of Bring It On where it's like the cheerleaders are like winning everything and the football team sucks. Hey, you just lost. But my husband is a Cowboys fan. So we're a Cowboys family. and so I'm a DCC like I'm obsessed with DCC. No you're so excited. They've given me like so much to look forward to over the years like when we go to games and stuff like I just love watching them so then have them having their show on Netflix is just like even more exciting. Did your husband watch the show with you or is he like not into the cheerleaders?

31:25He didn't watch I actually we watched it last summer I was with Claudia so like we watched it like girly time but I think he would like the show even though it's very girly. Yeah but it's his culture. I think he loves the fact that like they're bringing me in more because he wants me to be a bigger cowboys fan but i just like can't stop clowning on them because like they need to start winning no they suck they like why are they so and he's like they're america's team like they're the richest team in the league like i'm like then why can't they play better yeah right if you if they have all of america behind them you would think they would play better and they they're worth like the most amount of money because like their brand their branding is insane yeah that's crazy okay So how much are the Dallas Cowboys getting paid?

32:03So they were initially making like$15 hourly, which now longtime team members will be making up to$75 per hour. They're making minimum wage? Yeah. No, like I think last season, some of the girls, you make different based on how many years you're in the league, but like they were making like$20 ,000 a season. So like they were also like nurses and teachers and like working, and they have to wake up so early and they have to train, and they were just like doing so much. and it's just not fair. So it's an up to 400 % increase, but it will depend like what games you're in and how many appearances you do and how many hours and how many years.

32:41So have they all quit their nursing jobs and their teaching jobs now that they've got a pay raise? I feel like hopefully no, because it's like a short moment in time. Like probably most people max are on the team for four years and then you go back to work full time. So it's like amazing if you can like maximize that time while also like keeping your career on track. It's honestly, that's kind of fucked up that men can play football for so long and then just like get traded when they're done. Like why can't the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders get traded to like another cheering team? Actually, I think when like some of them, if you don't make the team after a certain amount of time and you still want to dance, like you could go to another team, but this is like, they have the highest standards for cheerleaders.

33:21You don't want to go down. But then also it's just like, you know, the plight of being a woman, like if you plan on being a mom, like if you want to have a baby, like those kicks aren't going so high anymore. Those kicks aren't going high anymore. When was the last time you kicked? Oh, when was the last time I kicked? I genuinely can't remember. You can't remember? No. And I don't think I should be kicking. I would be so scared to kick. Yeah. I would be very nervous to kick. Yeah. I would hurt something if I kicked. Yeah. It hurts even thinking about it. It is hurting me to think about it. Like my undercarriage.

33:50Yeah. So I'm happy for the girls. And also from this show, like a lot of them became influencers. And then I'm sure from this season we'll get new breakout stars, influencers, money, etc. Which they deserve it all. I need more people to want to buy things from. Oh, you do? You know? Yeah. The ones that I'm losing interest. The ones that you follow? Yeah. I'm just like, you're not giving me really what I want anymore, you know? Can you describe the type of person you're talking about? Like the OGs? I think it's just maybe the OGs who maybe have lost sight of OGness. and maybe they, you know, and hopefully I'm, I don't turn to this person, but the person who's like linking all of like the dupes and the like, you know, like Amazon lookalikes.

34:33And then they're like, Oh, here's my outfit. Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Gucci, Prada. And you're like, well, that's crazy. Like now, like where, where do I get that? That's not$700 sweater. But then they'll give you the juke. They don't. They don't give you a duke. No, they were like strictly shopping Amazon. And then they made so much money that now they're like only wear designer and now they only post and link their designer and it's like well you lost me yeah you know they need to like do the mid thing a little bit yeah you need to like be a little bit more relatable interesting i guess that's like just part of the life cycle of an influencer like you start out small and then like you make money and you get bigger and so you like buy more expensive things and you sort of lose the people that were like so attracted to you in the first place yeah you lose that relatability you lose it which is why influencers who never claim to be relatable kind of crush it.

35:24They're like, I actually don't want to be like you. I never said that.

35:31They really do have a lot of longevity. It's like, no, you've always been this way. Oh, no. Perfect. I feel like so many of the people I follow, like, I feel like the people that I follow, it's like, it takes a lot for me to follow a new person these days. And so like, when I do, I'm like, I remember where I was your wedding. No, I love that. I feel like I I follow like a lot of like the bachelor OGs, which makes me wonder, did you watch the bachelor seasons that your husband was on? No, I did not. I did not watch the bachelor at all. I watched. So I think I started with Hannah Brown because she was from Alabama.

36:03Yeah. And I'm from Alabama. And so I was like, oh, my God, this is who came first, Hannah Brown or Pilot Pete? Hannah Brown. She came. Hannah was from Colton. OK. Am I making that up? No, I think that's right. Hannah was from Colton and then Pete was from Hannah. Okay, yeah. So I don't think I watched Hannah's, but I like followed Hannah on Instagram. And I was like keeping up with what she was doing. And then Maddie Pruitt, we like went to high school together, like knew each other growing up. And so I watched her on Pilot Pete season. But I'd never watched any of Nick's. And I'm so excited for the day that River is like, Dad, what is this?

36:41And she wants to start watching him on television. his season his bachelor season was really good he had like the girls that like from his season i feel like are the girls i associate with the bachelor but also because they are my age i feel like like are you the same age as hannah brown it's funny you like wind up watching like in your bracket yeah yeah like i'm with the 1982 girls you know like raven she's a yes yes uh amanda stanton yes those are my ogs yes but i feel like you're part of like the newer wave like victoria Fuller is your friend. Yes she is my friend. We love her here. We love her to you.

37:16Yes oh my god we think she's like the most beautiful person. She is the most beautiful person. I always say I think she looks like Claudia. She does. I just like she always has like an interesting boyfriend. I just like I want the world for her. No and I think she's gonna get it. I know I really want her with like I want her with a Travis Kelsey you know like I see that for her. But it didn't work out with Will. It did not work out with Will. Yeah I think um. I think she had fun while it lasted. I think she had fun while it lasted i think it was more of like he you know maybe like got in his head a little bit and couldn't like prioritize her because he wasn't playing so well you know they love to blame the woman yeah they love to play she got jessica simpson 100 100 so i think it was like oh this isn't like you know i think she needs to be with like someone good oh you know that would be nice yeah like a travis kelce i would love that maybe she'll go to some tu events send her to Aldean's oh my gosh she should go to Aldean's I wonder if they let her in first look at that face card no no no that's so true never denied right never denied oh that is so funny no so those are your people how did you meet Nick I slid into his dms so because I followed Hannah Brown and Madison Pruitt I feel like the algorithm was working and he was on my explore page like a photo he had posted and it's so funny because the photo he posted is just like him standing what now I know to be the Whole Foods parking lot.

38:42Cracking. And now that I know the story of it, it goes a little something like this. Okay. So he would frequent the Venice Whole Foods. And, you know, he lived alone. So he would go there like every day to buy, you know, what he's having for supper. And there was a massage therapist in the Whole Foods in Venice who would do like chair massages. In Whole Foods. In Whole Foods. in like the soap section. That's crazy. It's crazy. Okay. I think he says her name is Maria. Okay. And he would get a chair massage every single time he'd go to the Whole Foods, to grocery shop. And he was like, you know, they just kept telling you, like you got to post every day on Instagram.

39:23You got to post, you got to post. That's how you like keep everyone entertained. And so he was like, Maria, after this massage, do you mind taking a photo of me in the parking lot? And she was like, sure. So she followed him, left her station. followed him to the parking lot and took his Instagram pic. And that's the photo that I saw on my explore page that I DMed him. That compelled you to reach out to him. That compelled me to DM. And had you known who he was? Or was it just like that photo was just so compelling? No, that photo was so compelling. She did a really great job. He should hire her.

39:51No, literally. I don't know what she's doing since COVID. I really wish her the best. And I do hope that we can find her someday. She needs to be head of social media for Vile Incorporated. No, she really does. That's so cute. So how did he see her DM? Like, I feel like he was a hot commodity. I guess, you know, avid. He was an avid checker, maybe. I don't know. Maybe he just like, maybe he was a happenstance. You know, he happened to check, I happened to send. So what did you say? It was groundbreaking. I don't know if you are ready. I'm ready. You're unreal. Wow, that's really cute. Thank you.

40:26I honestly was like, this guy's hot. I'm going to send this. And then I went about my day and did not think twice about it. And the next time I got back on Instagram, I was like, oh, my God. he's responded oh my god I forgot about this hello and he asked you out he we while we chatted for like a couple days and then we started like facetiming I was living in Georgia at the time in Savannah and he was in LA and so he was like I'm gonna be in New York in a couple weeks and I was like that's so crazy same I'm also gonna be were you gonna be in New York no not at all and I booked a ticket immediately and then I was like oh I'm like seeing some friends and then I actually wasn't seeing friends and I was like hey um my friends are busy so I have nowhere to stay so I'm just gonna like get a hotel somewhere you know for like the weekend and he was like why don't you just stay with me and I was like wow okay sure so we like spent the weekend together and then we were like okay this was so fun like see you never and I was like let me know if you're ever back on the you know east coast again and then like a couple days went by and he was like do you want to come out to LA and then we like spent 10 months going back and forth and I was like I really want to date you and he was like no it's not gonna happen really turned me down so many times how long were you dating like unofficially like 10 months wow yeah what did he say for why he didn't want to because the age gap he was like I don't know if we're on the same path of life like how old were you when you guys met 21 wow he was 37 I think okay but he didn't know that you're an old soul he didn't know yeah he had no idea that I thought I was just like a party girl he had no idea that I'm like well mature beyond my age.

42:04You are. I think that's what everybody says about you. That's like the vibe that you exude. You were saying how you and Nick have an age gap. I'm like, oh, right. I know that somewhere in my brain, but it doesn't feel that way because you feel very mature for your age. And he seems like a younger guy. Yeah, I think I like survived a lot in my life. And I like I lived on my own at 15. I grew up really, really fast. And I feel like that. So by the time I got 21, I was like, no, I'm actually like done partying. I'm done. Like, I don't want to live that life anymore. I'm ready to settle down. I want children.

42:34Like I want this. I want like a stable relationship. And he was, you know, 37. Did he want those things? He wanted children. He didn't. He said he never wanted to get married. Okay. Red flag, red flag. I was like, okay, well, it's not going to work for sure. But if you want kids, you don't want to get married. That's not how this day and age works. Okay. Do you want to be canceled? So we just had a baby before our wedding right right right oh I guess he got a little bit he got to have a kid he got to have a kid before he got married exactly so yeah and then finally I was like I can't do this anymore like I have too many feelings involved and I'm gonna like I was we were both seeing other people and we were both like very honest about that which I think helped our relationship because we're you know he'd like FaceTime me and I'm getting ready for a date and he's like what are you doing and I think most women would probably be like oh nothing going out with the girls because they don't want to like hurt their feelings or something and I was like oh I'm going on a date you don't want to date me but I'm gonna keep dating yeah and so then finally I was like I don't want to do this anymore like I'm gonna get my feelings hurt and he was like okay and then I didn't talk to him and he was like actually I'm in love with you and I was like thank you thank god yeah thank god and he was like and I just bought a house do you want to move in with me and I was like I'm on the way so that's when you moved to LA yeah and then how much later until you got pregnant so we got engaged like maybe three years later and then I got pregnant like six months after we got engaged nice yeah crushing you changed him change they say you can't do it no by the way don't get any ideas from Natalie they're the exception okay literally do not it does not work honestly most of the time please I tried so many other fixers and I never worked that is hysterical how did you feel about his job like did you ever see yourself going into like what he was doing in the way that you have?

44:20No. So I was full time and I was a surgical technologist. So I was like assisting surgeons in the operating room. I loved it. I had so much fun doing it. And I kept doing it up until I got pregnant. I was in my first trimester and I was very, very sick. And I was like, no, actually the like looking at this blood is making me actually have to vomit. Like I have to scrub out and puke. Like I cannot do this. Yeah. And so I was like breaking sterility a lot because I kept having to leave. And then surgeries were like taking longer because I was like, and my doctor was like, this isn't going to work.

44:45Like we need to figure something out. So I took some time off. And then when I took that time off, Nick was like, well, why don't you just like come on the pod for a moment? And so I did. And then we just like. And that's another one where it's like working with your husband is usually not going to work for you guys. Don't get any ideas. Yeah, honestly, I'm not. I should leave. Because when I think about like a couple that like one of them has a podcast or whatever, and then the other one's going to like come on and like they're going to do it together. Like I would just think objectively like that's a bad idea.

45:13Right. But it's so like you guys are you were made for it. And you like really, I feel like you really balance out like his shtick with like just like a female perspective. Yes. And it really, really works. Yeah. I think he's able to bring, it's always like he's, he's bad cop. I'm good cop. You know, like he's able to bring the like really good, hard hitting questions. And then I'm there to be like, oh my God, but like love you. We had Sherry Pepini on and I was honestly, Sherry Pepini hoax kidnapper. Kidnapped, you know, Nick was like, I don't believe you. you know kind of the whole time and I was like and you are so pretty I just have to say and um I I don't think you did it but like I get so nervous sitting beside people being mean like I can't yeah you know so I'm just always good cop and I think it does work for us it does really work but again don't try no no do not try that at all awful well now it is time for our next story which is some national anthem news because Kristen Chenwith is getting slammed for what people are saying was a bad national anthem performance during the NBA finals, which also like it was the NBA finals.

46:18I guess in hindsight, like my husband did have some friends over. He said they were watching the game. I think it was a big deal. And I think that was the finals, except like the Oklahoma City Thunder, like they're not making a big deal about their win. I feel like I had to seek out who won. Right. Whereas usually it's like flooding. It's everywhere. I guess I don't, maybe I don't follow that many Thunder fans. Yeah. But Chris. I didn't know any, I didn't even know people lived there. In Oklahoma City. Yeah. Yeah. Kristen Chenoweth sang the national anthem and she did her thing. Like she did her Broadway thing with it.

46:52Which I hate. Which you didn't like it. She's getting slammed. I was expecting it to be far worse because I'm looking for like Fergie and Ingrid Andres. Yes. And it wasn't sonically bad. Like she sounds like a Pardee opera singer. It's just like not the vibe. No. And honestly, I, we had Ingrid on our show a while back to talk about, she had like the flop, the talk about the flop. And she recognizes it's such a flop. She was like, no, honestly, like I got back and no one would talk to me. And I was like, how was that? She was like so hammered. They were like, we'll talk about it tomorrow. I'm just like, I can crush.

47:23They're like, yeah, well, we'll just you go to sleep and check yourself into it the next day. Yeah. Yeah. So she, you know, she has lived. She has learned. And thank God for that. And I do not like when they change the tune. I don't want you to change the tune of our songs, you know, like and that's what I feel like Kristen was doing. And I feel like it wasn't needed. I feel like she does have a beautiful voice. Yeah. And she was, it wasn't like off tune. No. Which I was thinking it was going to be. The notes were hit. The notes were hit. Yeah. But the ending. She got carried away with Kristen's self.

47:52But like you hired Kristen Chenoweth to do the national anthem. Kristen Chenoweth did the national anthem. Like what did you expect? So I would say that this is more on like the talent recruiter than it is on Kristen. She's also like a local to Oklahoma City. Okay. They like to do that. Yeah. I just like I didn't think it was bad and it doesn't deserve to be there with like Fergie and Ingrid. It doesn't. It's in just a different category of like well she put her whole Chris Dussie into it. Yeah. And you didn't like that. Yeah. I felt like maybe that's not the place to put. The Chris Dussie. Yeah.

48:28To put that into the national anthem. You know it's like you wouldn't put that into the Pledge of Allegiance. You wouldn't you know like these are just songs who have their tune. Yeah. You wouldn't put it into Twinkle, Twinkle Little Stars. You know, like you don't change the tune of those songs. Yeah. Yeah. So you don't like when people take it in a different direction. No, I don't even like it when my husband changes the song when he's singing to River. I'm like, that's not how it goes. Oh. It's actually not. She doesn't like that. That's not how it goes. He sent me a video of her where she's holding her.

48:57She's a very small jelly cat bunny. And it's called Baby Bun Bun. Okay. And he was calling it her rabbit. And I was like, you might as well call it a hair. Like, what the fuck? She doesn't know what a rabbit is. No, she thinks it's a different thing. No, literally. She's like, where's my rabbit? No, she does. It's Baby Bun Bun. And you have to refer to it as Baby Bun Bun. Yeah. She doesn't know rabbit. We speak river. We speak river in this house. Yeah. So that's kind of, you know, like you can't, they won't understand. And I felt like I didn't really understand the national anthem when Kristen was singing because it was very much in her own way.

49:28So who are some of your favorites that have done it? Because when I'm thinking about like the most recent ones at like the Super Bowl and stuff, like did you like Chris Stapleton? Loved. Okay. Loved. And Chris Stapleton cannot do any wrong. Yeah, I agree. You know what I'm saying? Shut your mouth. Literally, I don't want to fucking talk to you. I'm not interested. He cannot do any wrong. And I think him and his beard should continue to sing every single national anthem. Did you like Lady Gaga? She got a little crazy with it. No, I didn't. I didn't. I don't I just don't. We don't need that. You know, it's like you can show your talent without being like, you know, like you don't have to do that.

50:02I understand. I think that's a fair assessment. I'll take a little bit of it. as long as it feels respectful to me. So you loved Kristen? No, I didn't love Kristen, but I can recognize that she did the job that she was asked to do, which is Kristen Chenoweth sing the national anthem. She said you asked for me. Yeah, and you got me. What did you think you were going to get? And I do feel like the NBA loves having a national anthem moment, good or bad. It's not a coincidence that every year at the finals we're talking about the national anthem. That's so true. Because we're certainly not talking about the game.

50:35No, absolutely not. We didn't even know it was happening. Well, I wonder what the players think during while they're standing there. I feel like they feel a lot of pressure to not show anything on their face, whether they like it or they don't like it, because they don't know how it's going to play. So true. Yeah. So true. They only care about what the fans think. Yeah. So they're just like stoic. But then when they crack, that's when, you know, with Fergie and with Ingrid. Well, our next story is a little fashion news that dropped this morning because Kim Kardashian is announcing her collaboration between Roberto Cavalli and Skims Swim.

51:10So in another high fashion collab for Skims and Kim, they are collaborating with Cavalli. Some pictures have dropped of what we can expect from the collection, like Lion One Piece, Lion Moo Moo, Lion Bikini. Very Cavalli and very Skims. I think this is like A plus. No, truly. I think she continues to like partner with the right people. I think she's an incredible business woman and I think she knows what she's doing. Like her collab with North Face for the puffers. She just is smart with it. And I do think this is a great collab. I personally will not be wearing a lion one piece ever. So I won't be purchasing from this drop, but.

51:46I might. I want to see the rest of the stuff. I don't love like, I don't wear a lot of animal prints, but I feel like there might be other stuff that's more for me. I feel like maybe that one piece would make my bush look more like a bush. You know what I'm saying? Like it's actual, it's fur. It is. You're right. I miss that. I wonder if that's on purpose. Like it's right in the bush. It's giving shadows, you know? Yeah. I need to see more pictures. Yeah. Skims Cavalli. And it always is just shocking like how she gets these collabs. But I guess like when you really zoom out, it's like, well, Skims is the name on everybody's lips.

52:22And these days Cavalli isn't. Though it's like a very storied brand and it has great like name recognition. It's not at what it was. I'm not going into a Cavalli store. Right. So this is actually really great for Cavalli. Honestly, good for her. Would you wear it? If I were skinny. Yeah. If I were skinny. Yeah. Interesting. So, but because I'm not. No. We'll be purchasing. No, I have to tell you the story. so Nick booked me a massage he was like oh let's get a massage at the house like someone will come to the house we would have been like traveling a ton or something he was like someone's gonna come to the house and give us a massage I'm like okay cool whatever so he's like why don't you go first like great she sets up in like our player room which immediately not relaxing yeah vibes are immediately off we have like link squad going off in the corner and um she's like okay so you could just get on top of the sheet and I was like on top of the sheet that's why would I get on top of the sheet i'm wearing a robe and like little like boy short underwear you know no bra nothing because i'm getting a massage and you go under the sheet i'm being respectful getting a massage and you're actually wearing like the maximum amount of clothing which is underwear literally she's like get on top and i was like okay um i like drop my robe and i get on top and she's like so we're gonna start with the stretch and i was like i'm so sorry the stretch and she was like yeah the so well the lymphatic and stretching and i was like so this this isn't a massage she's like no this is the stretch lymphatic and I was like oh okay so she grabs my leg I had I had not shaved and I cannot tell you how long my bush almost attacked her face and she's pulling my leg over and the way that I am trying to not make eye contact with her I've never been so uncomfortable in my life and I I can't like the way that she was like so what'd you do for dinner last night and like trying to have the most calm conversation while my literal bush is in her face was I've never been more mad at my husband I was like how dare you tell me that this is it's not a massage he was like oh sorry it's like lymphatic therapy you should wear a sports bra this is PT I'm like I should have been in literal workout clothes and I even said to her like should I put on a bra and she's like oh you're fine no that's insane no I'm sorry you had me naked in my kids playroom like leg up stretching the camera out why would you do that like why would you do that to me and she we i haven't talked to her since and then what did nick do for his same thing and he thought but he wore workout shorts deep tissue no he was like no i knew yeah he set you up no he set me up it was awful it was the worst experience of my life that is seriously so awkward no i've i've had dreams about it since more stressful than not getting a massage at all literally caused me way more stress.

55:09I'm so sorry. He owes you a massage. Did he make up for it? No, he did not. But actually, we went, where were we? We were in Vancouver for the last five weeks and on all of our downtime, he was like, we should get a massage. So there were days where we got two actual massages in one day. Oh, nice. So yeah, he did. But I just, that brings, I bring that up because of the Robert Cavalli lying. Now you're very bush sensitive. Yes, yes. And I do feel like we should normalize the bush. That's my personal opinion. Yeah. No, I feel like as you get older There are certain things where it's like, oh, like it's like nature.

55:41That's why I should not be on Love Island. It should be there for a reason. Oh my God, Love Island. No, I should not be on Love Island because they are in a swimsuit all day long and they're all perfectly waxed. Yeah. I'm not interested in that. No, and they're seriously wearing like the craziest thongs. Like they are, soon they're going to show up with no bottom. No bottom. Nothing on. It's wild. Well, our fifth and final story is a little more, I don't know, fashion news. because the photos for Ryan Murphy's new show, American Love Story, just dropped. It's about Carolyn Bessette Kennedy and JFK Jr., which is like, you know, everybody loves them and a tragic love story.

56:16And the photos came out of the cast and crew. And, you know, there were some photos that were better than others, but there were a couple that, I don't think anybody wanted to say it, but it looks like shit. No, it looks like a JCPenney's like. It does. It looks like JCPenney was inspired by Carolyn Bissette-Kedley, and now you can get the look for less. Yes, exactly. Because a couple of the photos that were taken at a shoot, not the ones on set, those are a little bit better when they're in the context of the show, but Carolyn's look is off. Awful. Now her hair colorist, her real-life hair colorist of Carolyn is breaking down what Ryan Murphy got wrong in the show.

56:57So yeah, the hair color, she obviously is like a very blonde blonde, and they tried to recreate that, and it didn't hit. She said, I love Ryan Murphy. I mean, I live for him, but there must be some kind of glitch with the costume people or the hair people because it's not right. It's all white and burnt, he said, the hair colorist. Her hair was not white and it wasn't burnt. She hated the idea of having ashy hair, which I was totally against too and I never did it. But when I saw the first look, I went, oh my God, what am I gonna do? I mean, first of all, this person should have been brought on as a consultant.

57:28Like the fact that this is the person speaking out about this tells me everything I need to know. Yeah. And the thing is, it's like the hair is bad, but also the fashion is bad. She's wearing a Birkin and it's seriously, it looks like so cheap. It's empty first. Like it's, it's really, it's like collapsing on itself. Yeah. They couldn't put any stuffing inside of it. Stuff the bag. And. Yeah. They're just like standing in front of a black or a, a, a back, a JC Penney's backdrop. like they're coming in for Christmas cards and it's like it's they yeah he's standing like that's his mugshot like the styling the the photography the creative design like where is it I don't know it's good and like then you see pictures of them in real life and they have not achieved what they set out to achieve especially with the makeup the hair the hairstyle he said Carolyn's hair was darker at the bottom the mid was medium blonde and the front was all brilliant gold pieces gold makes women look beautiful ash makes you look dead unless you're wearing a ton of makeup and who wears a ton of makeup it's just wrong everything oh my god I love him I love him too like because thanks for validating you really feel but not verbalize no and I feel like maybe Ryan Murphy is gagged from that comment like what you know like where does he go from here you know like I feel like maybe he loved this and now he's like oh no now this is bad and I also feel like he doesn't flop like no and they do so many uh period pieces and you know like re recreations of like real people and stuff and for the most part no one's really had a complaint they do like a pretty good job of like nailing the character i think in this situation like he had really big shoes to fill because they are so iconic like for the way that they look and for him to miss on this like is a big l yeah i also feel like him coming off of the um menendez brothers maybe he had like he was feeling a little too big for his britches.

59:22I didn't watch that one. Dark. Real dark. Happy to skip it. But he also did Monica Lewinsky. He did OJ. Remember the OJ one? Everyone was their old selves. You know all these people. He even had Kris Jenner in there. Robert Kardashian. OJ self. They really had... When does this come out? This comes out sort of soon. When was it? I think in the next few months. I forget. Let me look. if anyone will tell me which they won't well I would I would actually watch this because I think their story is interesting I've read like a uh sort of um like a fan fiction version of it there's a book by um Emily Giffen I think I forget what it's called but it's like sort of a take on this story and it's so good and of course it's not the true story but it definitely made me interested in them as a couple because like we were a little young right we're kind of like we were so young yeah Me and you.

1:00:15Yeah, we were. Because we're in the same age. Yeah, we were really young. We were like in diapers. I feel like stuff that happened in the 90s, I missed because I wasn't a conscious person. And anything that happened before, I learned in school. Right. But then, and things that happened after, like I'm alive. Right, right. But this was sort of a period that I missed. So I know a little bit about them, but it would be something that I would want to know more about. So I'm interested to watch it, but not if it's going to be a piece of crap. No, I don't want to watch it if her hair looks like shit.

1:00:40I'm not watching it if it's ashy. And if it feels like community theater, which is like my biggest pet peeve, especially when they're like trying to recreate like a moment in time and a real piece of like person and time. And it's just like giving costume. And it's giving like, I can see craft services over there. Yeah. Yeah. And everybody is just like pretending to be someone else. I'm like, why am I watching you guys? Are you like freaks? I feel too aware of what I'm watching, which is why I actually prefer reality TV. Same. Everyone's like at least being like their own real person. Yeah. Today's episode of The Toast is brought to you by Taylor Farms.

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1:08:02Oh, interesting. Yeah. Interesting. And then whenever he like, okay, he broke up with Huda, ended with Huda, now he's with Arrina. And they were like, he can't just like keep doing this. And it's like this. Doing what? Seeking out connections? I'm so sorry. This is actually what you're supposed to do. This is exactly what you're supposed to do. we just thought he's gonna do the same thing with Huda. No. And Rina's a different person. No. It will shake out differently. Even then when they were like to Pepe, well like now you can explore. It's like, that's what he was doing with Hannah. They couldn't even justify their decisions.

1:08:31I don't know. On the one hand, Jeremiah being sent home made me angrier than the fact that Hannah went home because of what she did to Mike Charlie. Yeah, yeah. But watching the girls try to explain why they sent Hannah home, they literally couldn't. And in my head, the way I see it happening is that Huda convinced them to send her home so that she could move in on Pepe because that was the only other person that she was semi-interested in. And I think she was able to manipulate the leaders of the girls, which are Alandria and Shelly. Yes. And I feel like Alandria is always the voice of reason.

1:08:59I like her so much. But in that moment, I was like, Alandria should have stepped up and been like, of course Amaya is going home. And I think that the boys were so shocked that the girls fumbled the ball so badly. So I feel like the girls had an easier decision to make. And they made the wrong one. I feel like for the boys, it's not like they had issues with Hannah. But they had issues. Nobody liked Jeremiah. His best friend is Austin, who's also in the bottom three. Austin poses a threat to no one. And like the way that they voted was just like very obviously dumb. Yeah. And but I feel like the girls like really couldn't explain why they voted the way that they did.

1:09:32I feel like also because Sierra and Nick had that conversation before where he was like she was like I want and he was like let's still be open. And so I feel like maybe she was also on like the Pepe train of like oh well if he wants to be open like I need to have someone. Oh. So like let's get Hannah out. I feel like Sierra. I feel like she's like very like chill. Yeah. And like free spirited and like it's not like doesn't like weigh in or have like strong opinions about like other people. Like in the sense that she's just like a cool girl. And so I don't think she like contributed a lot to the vote.

1:10:05That's just like not how they didn't show us how it went down. So I'm just like thinking. Do you think they didn't show us because last season it went so. Well, I guess you don't know. We didn't watch. But like last season they had the girls do the same thing. And they voted out Andrea who was with Rob at the time. and you know like leah and rob had their whole love thing and then they ended up breaking up and he was with andrea and then she went like andrea got sent home and rob was like what the fuck like we had a connection why would you send her home and leah was like listen i took a backseat like to that decision like i don't know like i really wasn't involved and then that started this whole fight because the other girls were like you didn't take a fucking backseat like what do you mean you didn't take a backseat like you were you were definitely telling us like who we should so it started this like whole uproar in the villa i would like to see that i we need to see the uproar we need to see the footage so then i think sierra is now so pissed that the boy sent home jeremiah because jeremiah was keeping andrina at bay because if jeremiah and andrina are together then nick is all hers but now then all of this is a point with casa more because shockingly even though i don't think it's we're ready for casa and there's no couples so like this isn't titillating um i love the casa boys i think they're so cute they're like the boys too they're like they all seem like more handsome and more tall and way more tall more like employed yes then the og boys yeah so like let's have a new show if i hear one more like i'm a model like i'm out you know yeah like that's why i love jaylen so much is because he was a truck driver he was a truck driver 18 wheeler he was from Alabama and we love him for that um how was him on Vile Files I wasn't there Nick because I came here sorry love that um coast greater than Jalen by literally by a bench and but Nick said he's so sweet and he was just like he's exactly what you want okay good yeah and he is now like I mean he has over a million like he's getting what he deserves he is he is I'm so like that's what you love to see he needs to be tripping with tart 1000 and he needs like a nice lady I feel like there are a lot of like women and men in the sphere who are like we could place them you know like a little bit of that yeah um and we can add him to the mix now do you feel like amaya is like one of the austri sisters no why because she um gratitude she just makes up words but we make them up like we know they're wrong that's the difference so i'm yeah she's 100 like i'm out no honestly she yeah no she's like this is how you say gratitude it's gratitude she sounds like glinda from wicked like making shit up she does no she i love her really you don't like her i don't there's nothing to dislike she's obviously a very pure soul i don't enjoy watching her on my television i want her to go home because she's keeping other people from being there like hannah was better television even though she wasn't like really yeah hannah and pepe like they had like and i like pepe so like pepe likes and i like charlie but of course she did what she did but listen hannah is going to Hannah and she literally came on the show and said I want multiple partners okay she literally she fit in her hand she was never shy like she was literally feeling it with Charlie and then that day was like but I just feel like being with other people like like I can't knock her for like no I'm so horny no seriously and one is not enough yeah so she told us who she was believe her and I think Pepe's a really like good smart sober guy and if he was like really into her that I think that speaks well of her as well I think Amaya is excellent television just pick up your mic I don't want to miss what you have to say about Amaya and how you're going to insult me again no no you're good no no I think um no I think Amaya is excellent television I think she is so funny you're more patient than I am I think when she the stuff she says is I want like it on repeat I want an album made of the stuff that Amaya says her singing in the mirror to her being like I'm a bad bitch and I don't deserve like the way that she just is she is herself and I love her And I think the men honestly are such trash for the way that they're treating her.

1:14:09And she deserves like someone really hot at Casa more. Although I don't know why they're not in there. I know. Well, actually, she would have been great with Jalen. She would have been. Two pure souls. Truly. He would have been so patient with her. If they weren't so fucking dumb to vote him home. No, that was so fucked up. That was so fucked up. No, I feel ill. I hate these people. And so now we have like new Casa guys, new regular house girls. What do you think of the girls? Yeah, sure. A couple of them are like, so striking, yeah. I like the conversation. Taylor seems really into Coco. Like, and I liked their conversation.

1:14:46I felt a little bit of chemistry from him, which we have not felt yet, even though he's got the best girl in the villa. Like, they make me so mad because he's so not worthy. But now we see how he's like when he likes someone in a more romantic way. So I feel like it's time for Taylor and Alondra to break up. And I just feel bad for Alondra because she's obviously very picky in a good way. Like she's not just going to go for a million guys or like force something or act desperately to like be on the show. And she likes Taylor. I can't understand that from what I've seen. He's very goofy. I just hope that like I hope that Taylor and Coco like are locked in.

1:15:22And I hope that Alondra can really fall for one of the new guys because they really like her. The guy that she's with like likes her. I mean he did choose her in the backup. The Zach K? they're all Zach by the way so if I call one of them Zach I'll probably write but it was the model from New Zealand right they both love family covered in tats yeah yeah they both love their family I think that's Zach K oh I think maybe he is a Zach yeah because I think Alandria and Amaya didn't get picked and then he was like I picked Alandria because of what she said she's so sophisticated yeah but no but then in their conversation like okay maybe at first didn't start off the way you want but in their conversation it felt like they were vibing And she was like, I didn't really want to feel anything.

1:16:04But like, it was good. Shelly said the same thing. Shelly and Ace have. Shelly and Ace are the worst. They think they're winning the show. Someone needs to let them know that they're not. No, I feel like they're scamming us. Yeah. I feel like they're scamming us. Do you believe that they were dating before the show? I mean, there's that video of Ace being like, Happy Valentine's, Shelly. Like, you don't say that to someone you bumped into at a coffee shop. You know, like you say that to someone you have rapport with. And I think they are scamming the show. So if it's up to me, Ace will never see that money.

1:16:33Yeah. You know? No, if it's up to me, no one that I've met on Love Island so far will be winning that money. The last person who comes in the house who I hate the least, I'm voting for. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like Nick and Jaden, I think that is good. Oh, yeah. They're cute. But I like Nick and Sierra. Like, what about that is not enough for him? You know? That's so true. I have no idea. I think Beldasha told us that he told her that he was in an open relationship before. or like had multiple girlfriends at once. And so she was like feeling right at home being at Love Island. So I think maybe that has something to do with it of like, oh, I don't want to close off to one girl because like I'm into dating.

1:17:09Yeah. Multiple. Got it. Okay. So I don't, you know. I'll take it with a grain of salt. Yeah. Take it with a grain of salt. I don't know. Because Tyler Cameron came here and said that he went on a double date weekend with Nick and like two girls who are Lando. They were both dating. They were both dating. Tyler's like, I actually don't know why I was there. They were both making out with Nick. Tyler was dating a girl and Nick was dating a girl. I guess the girls knew each other and they all went on a double date weekend to Orlando. Oh, cute. And he never said anything about there being another girl.

1:17:40And he said that Nick's the only person that he kept in touch with from that weekend and that he's a good dude. I do think he is a good dude. I think he's sweet. He's a nurse. You know, he's a hero. He's a nurse. Not all heroes wear capes. It's true. I think he's a hero. And the way that he was like, oh, your Dextron is so sexy. Yeah, and he's like, I can help you with that. change that for you that is cute so sweet but it's only cute if c oh cierra's with um elan yeah which honestly is like the the nick of casa more i like them too i actually i'll be great if everybody recouples meaningfully except i kind of like liked iris and tj i thought they were no i did too but tj's response to every kiss like you thought that was the other woman like which one were you voting iris the two you know like if they all thought these were just like the actual girls right then why are you voting them so low i don't know but i also think some of the girls like were most of them like weren't interested in tj and so they didn't give him the best kisses yeah you know whereas iris like would have given him a better kiss it is so weird i know we have to just accept this as a fact but it is so weird to me that you can stand up there blindfolded and now kiss and have to like make out with and dry hump and grab ass of five strangers that you've never met before.

1:18:54And I know when you go on the show, they're like, are you down to hook up with strangers that you've never seen before? You don't know like what their history is or anything. And you have to be okay with that or else you can't come on our show. And they all agree to it, but it's twisted. No, the blindfolds is so fucked up. Like you, first of all, like you're startling me. Now my nervousness needs to come down before you try to kiss me. You know, like I'm not ready for a kiss right now. Like my blood pressure's high. I'm not, I'm feeling nervous. Like you have to wait a second. And the way that they just immediately, and then you have to like, now you're getting raided.

1:19:19You know, it's like how I wasn't prepared, you know, like I wasn't. And you're choosing who you want to be coupled up with based off that kiss. No, it's like the kiss means anything. But like anything. I remember. Do you ever watch that movie? Sierra Burgess is a loser. No, it was like just like one of those teen movies on Netflix. And like the girl is like catfishing the guy with this other girl's picture. So like she finally gets in touch with the other girl. Please, can you like go out with him for me? And then like when it's time to kiss, she puts a blindfold on him. And then Sierra kisses him like the loser girl, not the girl.

1:19:49that was catfishing. And like, it was really twisted though. Like he thought he was kissing this one girl and instead he's kissing another girl. And I feel like at the time people were like, hmm, that's like kind of weird and like a little morally bankrupt. And now we're like all watching it on Love Island. We're cheering it on. Yeah. Yeah. But like, I know that all these people have consented to all of this. They have. And I honestly do think like the milk challenge was far worse, you know? The milk challenge. I will not be the same. like small things about this show first it was charlie then it was jalen then it was the milk challenge and then it was jeremiah i is chipping away at my ability to watch the show it's getting bad it's getting really bad the milk challenge was something that i like the hot hot milk milk is only good if it's served ice cold and it's only good if it's in a bowl of cereal and it's not as good when it comes from someone else's mouth someone else's mouth and now it's hot and it's been sitting in an udder for how long?

1:20:45And it's going to be poured on my head. And you know it's not like quality milk. It's not quality milk. Grass-fed. It's probably not like almond or oat either. So like I hope everyone's stomach feels okay. I could seriously, that was actually disgusting. Do you think that Jalen got sent home because Taylor and Alandria wanted to get rid of their competition? I actually don't think so. I know people said that, but I think when Alandria made her choice and was very clear about it, She wasn't even like, she was like, I like Taylor a little more, but I look forward to exploring with Jalen. She was like, no, it's, she literally came back from her date with Jalen and kissed Taylor on the lips, which they never do.

1:21:20So I think if Taylor were still feeling threatened by him, like he would be a fool to feel that way. And I don't think that, I think their chapter was closed with that locked door. And like, then he could have went and explored Amaya. I can't tell you, like, there are so many things that are embarrassing, but pulling on an open, a locked door. and of course it only happened to one person and it was jaylen in front of everyone national television that's so fucked up no i'm sick i'm sick and the way that she's like and you're standing in front of olandria's door and like olandria's standing back there knowing that it's locked like that is so fucked up in so many ways yeah i hated that i hated like he did not deserve that and the fact that we haven't had a normal recoupling we're just like guy chooses girl that he likes or girl chooses we haven't had one except for bells yeah so true is really annoying what is this show it's not love island and now they're coupling up in casa which is like not what you're supposed to do everyone's coming back to the main house which i don't dislike because we have good casa guys true and also the girls like deserve i want every og off my show like all of the ogs they have run out their time on the show the boys and the girls the good ones are gone and the ones who were once good are now compromised by their inability to vote so true and to understand the will of the american people so true when i kept when they kept saying america i'm like don't speak for me don't say i didn't do that in one of the polls yes you do yes who'd you vote for for two who are your two favorite guy and girl oh it was nick and sierra cute yeah yeah and i'm sure you've seen like people's shipping nicolandria no i haven't but honestly you haven't seen the i like that oh my god they take like these minor moments of like when he like looks at her it's actually so funny and um wait I want to show you one then when they had Nick read Alandria's name of like who was being saved from the popular vote um they had Nick read out the card the text that said Alandria and like I know that they did I think they're combing Twitter they are doing whatever the people want and I think that they did that so that people could include that in their edits because he like smiles of course he fucking smiles right right it's actually so funny here here's one this show is so unserious people are not okay they're not okay what is going on i am i have to say i'm very glad that shelly got the tallest man in casa yeah but i feel like she's taking it for granted yeah I don't know I don't think she's really into anyone anywhere on this island did you notice that no one um wanted to kiss Chris who was Chris he came in with JD who is he coupled up with at the moment how do you know Chris and JD actually do you remember JD he was like really smiley and he's a football player he said coach said this and I was like JD's the tall one who's with Shelly, I think.

1:24:21No, the basketball player who was playing in Europe. Isn't his name JD? No, he's Chris. Okay. So then maybe it's JD. Oh, nobody wanted to kiss JD. The football player. He had the smallest little gap between his front two teeth. Oh. And no one pulled him to kiss in the little game they were playing. That's weird. And now who is he coupled up with? Huda. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, this is Huda's time to shine, even though she's coupled up with someone that she didn't want to kiss. Do you think she'll shine? Do you love Huda? No. Okay. No. And I think that her contribution to the island has run out.

1:25:03Like, I understand. She really saved the season because up until Hurricane Huda, like, the show was so bad. And, like, I was, like, actually feeling, like, angry watching every night. But then, like, with a couple of the recouplings, people were like, oh, my God, like, that was crazy. and then Iris and Jeremiah are together and Huda spiraling and it was like good television. And I think that the producers don't want to let that go. She was obviously not voted highly by America in terms of popularity. Right. But they weren't going to put her in the bottom three because the girls would have sent her home after three times of saving her.

1:25:31So like I think they are manipulating things to keep her around because they think that the show needs her but I think that her contribution has ended. Yeah and I would agree. And the only thing worse than watching her spiral and crash out is watching her like try and be nice and flirt and whisper and be sweet. No. Oh my, and the flirting is so painful. I can't watch people flirt. Watching her try and flirt with TJ, who was not falling for it, was really awful. Watching TJ and Vanna flirt was even worse. Oh yeah, I thought she was into him. Maybe they were into it, I don't know. But just watching the way that they were choosing to flirt with each other was a hard watch for me.

1:26:05It was so cringy. Yeah, but those girls, like they need to play every hand, you know? They're in a tough spot. Yeah, they're like, we have three days, ladies, you better get on it. Yeah, like we're gonna go down it. Even if like TJ, if nobody likes him, like, well, we might need TJ. No, we're staying here. We just, we work too hard to go home now. That's so true. I feel like that's why some of the women last season were like really, like they were like, they were doing their big one. Like I think some of them were getting close to having sex because they were like, we've got to like lay it on them.

1:26:35Yeah. Well, there's been some sex now. A lot of sex. Yeah. I think this is the most sex that I've personally seen in the villa. I also think as the seasons go on, it's getting like raunchier and more rated R because now it's on Peacock. Like it used to be on cable and it was really PG to the point of being boring. And now it's all ass and titties and making out and bondage. And like the challenges are getting everything is just up the ante. But I do think like the UK Love Island is more like that. Yeah. Apparently like the first couple seasons of Love Island UK there. It's like sex tape. and cigarettes literally yeah that's what i've heard did you watch molly and tommy fury no i know them of course but i don't watch you should have her on the show really yeah how is she i'm obsessed with her i'm obsessed she's like my number one together they're back together she's my number one influencer i literally every time she does a drop of her clothing line what is it about her that you love i don't like it's well definitely like the fact that she's a mom like and like she just it seems like just so loving but there's just something very calming about her presence it's not even like she has the biggest personality, but just everything she does just like looks very beautiful.

1:27:43Like she's got the eye and the look, but I think also she has her clothing in line now. I love the way that she dresses like at, like in this new mature era of her life. And I just feel endlessly inspired by her as like a woman and a creator. I have to say like the second, and I feel like this is maybe where me and Hood are different. The second that I became a mom, I was like, oh. You signed up for Love Island. And I left my child for two months. And her birthday's coming up. No, I know. she's turning five we all noticed the tattoo with the birthday turning that's in 15 days is she gonna be home i hope so like for a million reasons no a million reasons i hope so as well but fiji is also like a really long flight and i feel like they keep them there for like after sun yeah and then also people are saying like so and so is gonna come back into the villa like jeremiah's gonna come back because apparently that happens before i guess i don't everyone everyone's been saying that about like oh bell dash is coming back oh charlie's gonna come back we don't want we don't need bella back like we don't i haven't missed her a date no i have not something about charlie but i don't even need charlie back for the plot like hannah's gone it's over we need jeremiah back and even andrina was throwing herself at brian she was throwing herself at him and he was like not acting worthy no and she had to go in for the kiss yeah and it's crazy i feel like she got when she came in like there has never been as much excitement about the way a person looks as there was for her and like everybody was ready to leave their lady for her and then two days later is casa and like the complete air has come out of her bubble now she goes into casa more she has no girlfriends in the house you could see she's walking behind the girls every single time she like i feel like all of the hype for her in her moment just like prematurely ended her one connection like justice for her she got a raw deal do you feel like she's like sad that she missed out on the twerking challenge with megan the stallion because her ass is so insane i'm sad oh my god that challenge was crazy but actually genuinely entertaining no i haven't laughed so hard i mean the way that austin and nick yeah and taylor taylor's faces what was happening i don't know megan did an amazing job as a host yes she did and like just goes to show like what a host can do for a show like for a challenge or a show i do and i am curious as to where ariana is when like they're when they have like the text come in or like ian is saying it like why what's happening where is she by the way love i don't know if that makes me old and boring but the only joy i get from this show is ian do you like his jokes i laugh at some of them some of them are like not my favorite but then he's like i have a hundred more of these yeah he does um but like literally sometimes he's so funny yeah i do think he saves the show in so many ways and i feel like if when i was younger I would have been like, oh, this guy's so annoying.

1:30:31Yeah. But I feel like old and proud that I love Ian. You guys need to have Ian on. I think that was the plan at some point. So I would, yeah. It would be really trippy to have his voice like sitting beside me. Oh, for sure. That was also a big thing. They brought in Ian from UK, whereas in the early seasons of Love Island US, he was not the narrator. And like the person was trying to do the same things Ian did, but it wasn't hitting. Like now it hits. I think they brought in like games makers. Yeah. Like I keep saying like Philip Seymour Hoffman in Hunger Games. Like they've done that because they really are turning the villa inside out for the sake of entertainment.

1:31:05And I think they're overdoing it and compromising on the love that we are all here for. Yeah. It's like Ace thinks that this is traitors or like Survivor. Yeah. But they've made it that way. Yeah. I guess. But it's also like, I don't know. I don't like the way I think Ace should go home. I think Shelly should be with Mr. Tall, basketball player. Or go home. I think her time has sort of run out. Like she hasn't made the, like she hasn't done much. And I like her. Like I don't have strong feelings about her one way or the other. If you had to choose right now, who's winning? Oh. You have to. Nick and Sierra.

1:31:39Yeah. But now that, that would be before Casa. Now with Casa, Sierra and Alon. Okay. Sure. Sure. Do you think that they're all going to crack in Casa? Iris and TJ. Yes, Iris and TJ. I think they don't, there's not even a crack to have. No one likes each other except for Sierra liking Nick. That's the only real, like the strongest feeling. And I feel like she's so emotionally stable that like movie night isn't even going to be that fun. Because she's going to be like. Oh, everyone's saying they're keeping Hood around for movie night. Like. She's no one to freak out over. Yeah. No, apparently because she talks shit about the girls and the girls will hear it.

1:32:15That's what I think they're saying. Yeah, like calling everyone a bitch. Fuck this bitch. Oh, yeah. When like Amaya came in. Yeah. She was like, I can tell she's messy as fuck. I hate her. I don't even think that's going to be so crazy because like that was the energy she was giving off. Like it wasn't like she wasn't hiding it to like Amaya when she came in that she didn't like her for going after Jeremiah. Same for Iris. Like I think she'll be able to smooth it over. I don't think it's going to be like the big moment people think it will be. I don't either. I think it's going to honestly suck.

1:32:41Yeah. So like, yeah, I'm honestly I'm getting mad now. I was really feeling disgusted last night. Now I'm like, OK, I'm buoyed by Kasa. I think the Kasa guys are good. are these girls even worthy at this point after like what they did to hannah charlie jeremiah and jayden no honestly they're not jaylen jaylen no jaylen jaylen is jayden the new girl yes yeah yeah jayden is a new girl jaylen is our boy our boy natalie joy vial thank you so much for coming here and doing the toast with me this was everything i could have dreamed of where can everyone follow you and your many podcasts and hot takes well we are on the vile falls monday to two ms a thursday friday and natalie joy two n's two j's two n's two j's we love you dearly thank you and thank you all for listening we'll be back tomorrow with another party episode and dear toasters tomorrow with tomorrow's guest because we had to go heavy on tv recap today love ya bye cute