Throwing The Rule Book Out The Window with Ben Soffer: Friday, March 7th, 2025

30:34I just, I have to, like, I call it as I see it, Jackie. I call it as I see it. You think they are OTP. I actually don't have an issue, like, with them choosing each other. Yes. I like them together a lot. I do. Yeah. Okay. that's it that's it just sharing when claudia comes back maybe it's time to update the list just anytime like a couple breaks up it's like when we're sad we console ourselves by being like oh well now there are two great people who can both go on the list like sophie turner and joe donas even though like are they two good people for the list anymore these they like could they be more dating her aristocrat i didn't even know that if you don't i'm just saying if you don't cross Ben South for Celebrity's page.

31:22Like if I don't see you, then you're not that popular. You know, like it's not about, it's not like an A-list thing. It's just more of a, like an interesting thing. Like who we would like, like even when Kaya Gerber and Austin Butler broke up, then they head to the list. Who can we put Austin with next? Interesting. You know what I mean? I do. I do. I do. Okay. All right. It's just a fun exercise and it allows us not to have to grieve relationships when they end. so we'll be you guys will be retinkering the list and then once you have it you can send it to me and i'll give you my comment then but yeah the the female list is is not ready for publishing no no no we're not inking it we're not inking it are you ready for our next story please i'm not sure how familiar you are with this person but it's pretty big news in the bravo sphere because teddy melancam do you know i do okay i yes i do she says that doctors have found five more tumors in her body amid her cancer battle.

32:18So Teddy Mellencamp shared an update with fans as she has been going through it the last few weeks. We hadn't really heard from her because she had found brain tumors after having had skin cancer. And she said that doctors discovered five more tumors in her body after they previously removed four from her brain last month. She said, update for my scans today. I have three more tumors in my brain and two tumors on my legs. These are all a direct result of my melanoma. So yeah, when we first reported this, we were like shocked at how someone could be going through so many of these things. Like what are the odds?

32:50But apparently they are connected, the melanoma and the tumors. So people had explained that to us and now she's also explaining it. Despite the news, she said that she's feeling positive about her outcome, adding that her doctors are hopeful that immunotherapy and radiation will effectively treat them. She said she's feeling positive that she'll win this battle, that she got this wig. She said, I like the short hair, just not the bald spots. and that I can remember the name of all of Angelina's kids. That's funny. She has her sense of humor still. Oy, I'm sorry. That stinks. Yeah. That stinks.

33:24Very, very scary. Very scary. I don't have anything, like, great to say, but, like, it's 2025. Like, thank God we're so advanced, right? I have a feeling that, like, your chances of beating something like that have never been better. Right. Like if this was a different point in time, you would be really worried. I have to think even though I'm an Eastern man and I'm sure there are some Eastern techniques that the Western takes over when you have cancer. And I God willing, she's she's fine. But I believe the word is metastasized is what's happening with her where you get it and it metastasizes.

34:08It spreads throughout. I know that because of Theo, not to compare Teddy and Theo. Yeah, Teddy and there, it's the same name. Yeah, but Theo, when he got cancer, they were like, yeah, you could remove it from his pelvis, but it's everywhere. It just starts to spread. It sounds like she caught it. Yeah. She's monitoring it. And there are like those, I don't know the name of them, but there are those full body scans that I don't want to do because I'm way too much of a hypochondriac. What's it like, per nuvo or something like that? Something like that. Nuvo something. I'm way too much of a hypochondriac.

34:43I don't want to know what's going on in my body like that. Yeah. But. It's really like early detection. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. No, I see that. It sounds like she caught it early. So. Yeah. And she's hopeful and there's treatment ahead of her. And so just really praying for her, hoping for the best. How do you know Teddy Mellencamp? It's funny. I only know Teddy Mellencamp because Michael and Lauren had her on him and hers and sent me a picture of the three of them saying teddy loves spritz society pink lemony can you send her some so we sent so we sent her some like a couple months ago that's the only reason i know teddy oh that's so funny but you did have a housewives era this morning when i was talking to ben we were planning for the show i was like is there anything that you like want to talk about i'm going to cater the stories to you except for this one and he was like i want to talk about desperate housewives so i feel like this would be a good time for you i'm just obsessed with desperate housewives in terms of in terms of like real housewives i'm just stuck in a different era like yeah you're still on Lisa Rinna even though I did do um Erin and Abe Licky are coming out with a new podcast and I actually did their podcast last night on one of their first episodes that comes out in April oh do people know that they're starting a podcast is that like embargoed information no clue not anymore no clue um but all press is good press fingers crossed nobody told me not to say anything so I don't know but I'm an early guest and uh so that is that's who I know from the new season um and besides that I'm like stuck in uh like old OG New York and New Jersey like Bethany, Sonia, Ramona, Luann like the the greats I'm stuck in the greats yeah um I don't know these new people for like, actually, Jersey, I know a little bit like Margaret Joseph's dear friend of ours, et cetera.

36:40And Joe. But yeah, Desperate Housewives. I'm sorry. I'm just going to say it. Desperate Housewives. Like Real Housewives does not hold. Is it hold a candle? Is that the expression? To Desperate Housewives. Literally the greatest fucking show ever made. I'm watching these episodes. Like one is drama series scripted and the other is reality TV. But they both have housewives. That's why I'm comparing them. Well, the Desperate Housewives was the inspiration behind Real Housewives. Just like the OC was inspiration behind Laguna Beach. Like where they, this fictional show was so popular and they were like, let's show the real people.

37:15That makes sense. Well, the fictional Desperate Housewives, I'm sure every single toaster has seen Desperate Housewives. But if you haven't seen it within the last, I don't know, six years, you forgot everything. It's worth a rewatch. And it's so good. I'm obsessed. Okay. You know, Claudia's been sharing updates with us. It is so good. Okay, she has. It's so good. And like, I think Brie, it's just Brie. It's Brie all day. Brie all day. I'm Brie. You're Brie. Together, we are Brie. We're both like different sides of the coin of Brie. Yeah. Like, but Brie, yeah, together we are Brie. That's funny.

37:57Do you have a little bit of anyone else in you? Like, I think I'm a Brie Lynette. Interesting. Okay. I think that I am a Brie. No, the rest of it is a Brie Mrs. McCluskey. I think you're a Brie, Carlos. By the way, I'll take it. Even though he's nuts. Mrs. McCluskey. I love Mrs. McCluskey. And rest in peace, Ida Roth. I don't know why they killed the only Jew. This old woman, they killed her. like they didn't have to kill her yeah it's not much of a spoiler she's like such a minor character anyways but like yeah mrs mccluskey she's great love that woman so much yeah just like a tough broad she would have been in the league of their own you ever see that movie like probably once yeah like she was she was a professional softball player mrs mccluskey so like tough broad yeah they don't make them like that anymore no honestly they don't like we don't use the word broad enough.

38:58Tough broad. Yeah. Right? Mm-hmm. Okay. What else? Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Because Mindy Kaling is reacting to all of the fanfare around her appearance on Meghan Markle's Netflix show. So I'm sure you've seen the clips of Mindy on With Love, Meghan, and that moment where Meghan in the Sussex of it all, you've seen that? I didn't see any clips. I saw the episode, though. Oh, you haven't seen? I feel like I've been inundated with this one moment and like so many like think pieces about when Mindy would call her Meghan Markle and she's like you suck six now don't you know. Yeah that was weird.

39:35We'll talk about it. It's weird that Meghan said that. It's just unnecessary. Yeah when we first talked about it I was like well yeah Sussex is their little family name. I've since learned that no Sussex is not their last name like that's inaccurate like it's not like yeah it's not like Kate is like Kate Wales. it's just like when the kids go to school in the royal family they give them that as a last name just to like make them normal um but that it's just really for school like it's not their family name their last name is mountbatten windsor that is harry's last name i think that's what's on her kids birth certificates unless like what's the last name mountbatten dash windsor mountbatten Windsor okay yeah even if like my my problem wasn't with Sussex my problem would have also been with Mountbatten Windsor it's just like such an unnecessary thing to correct Mindy Kaling in that setting like if somebody in if you're if you're doing a cooking reel with Mindy Kaling and she calls you Jackie Oshry are you saying no it's Jackie Weiner like no you that doesn't cross your mind for six seconds like her name unless you have unless you have such a chip on your shoulder which is what that showed me yeah no but her name is Meghan Markle to all of us like colloquially she is Meghan Markle on the show then I started to notice the credits it says like starring Meghan comma Duchess of Sussex which sounds nice but like what's your last name thousand percent and also it's like one what do you go by like say you know for paperwork and stuff and also what's your legal last name did you change your last name when you got married before this I didn't care the answer because like it royals and last names are weird but now it's a conversation there's so much discourse around it I am very curious like what does your driver's license say yeah what's your last name I would love to know that too I'm definitely curious um but yeah what did what was your what were your thoughts on the show in general oh I shared them on this show so I don't want to bore people I was very excited for this show because this is the kind of content that I crave right now like I do really like cooking shows and just like how to enhance your life and things that will inspire me to cook clean not craft I'm not a crafter but you know better myself um and it just like really lacked purpose like each episode was so unstructured it's not that I need structure but I do need a point and like she starts with the bath salts then we're putting snacks in a bag then we're making candles and like all of these things it's like I want more information from her on like why she's passionate about these things like even the cooking she talks about how she didn't cook much growing up and now she like loves to cook but I just like would love to know how she learned to cook like when did she learn to cook just like more personal anecdotes and then also the point of the show of like if you're not an expert chef like what are we doing are we trying new recipes together are you teaching us something uh it's just um it's kind of a mess I feel like they took on too much and they just thought that like her doing pretty things in her kitchen would be enough and as I watch more episodes It's like, it's, it's like, it's way, the first few were like light and sweet.

42:40And now in the subsequent one, she's doing the same things and just like putting like flower sprinkles on everything. It's like ridiculous at this point. And it's, it's not really strong at the moment. What did you think? So we like to consume the same type of content. Like I could literally, I could sit and watch. Unfortunately, I've watched all of them. So I can't again. But like I could watch Barefoot Contessa for 40 straight hours to your point because I'm learning something from somebody who I know is incredibly knowledgeable. And if I go to make that, it's going to be great. Yeah. My issue with Megan's show – and I only watched the Mindy Kaling episode.

43:19So I didn't even know about the crafts and this. I just know about the cooking. and my problem with it is if you're not an expert chef which like again me I'm not but my angle or at least the angle that I try to portray is that I try and make it funny like you have to make it entertaining but also there are shows like we said Selena and chef where she was learning how to cook with expert chefs and so we're all learning together that works for me a thousand percent I'm saying that if you're not an expert chef, you need something else. Like it's not – I'm not watching her and thinking I'm going to make that frittata that you just dumped everything bagel seasoning on.

43:57Like that's weird as hell. I like that frittata. It's just like I just don't get it. Like I didn't understand it. And like it felt very dry. it felt very like trying to be like Martha Stewart, but Martha is so incredibly credible. Like, like you can't be Martha Stewart without the credibility of Martha Stewart. You can be Meghan Markle in your own way to your point of, you know, I now have this new title Duchess of Sussex and you know, I needed to learn how to cook. So I sort of self-taught myself and here are my favorite recipes that I want to share with you and you need to learn or that or that or that I have two kids and I'm cooking all the time is for her which is something that I seriously relate to that's exactly my same experience and I find none of it really relatable which it should be yeah agreed she's also trying to be like the whole aesthetic like it's not like it's she's making things that she's in the kitchen is like trying to inspire us to do things and making trying to make things relatable so the fact that it's not is a miss if she was like there are things about martha stewart that are not relatable i just want to watch like an incredible person do an incredible thing yeah who is so unbelievably aspirational i don't aspire for one minute sorry to be megan markle or to be in that kitchen and replace her i want martha i want everything that martha has like i watch an episode of anything martha does i'm like i want her hampton's house i want her garden.

45:33I want her brain around her ability to just cultivate a vibe. Like that's one thing, at least for me that I know is missing. I definitely know my way around the kitchen. I do wish that I knew how to throw everything together. Like how to just like meticulously plan the perfect dinner would be something that I would love to know how to do. Like Claudia always sets the table. Claudia is so good at that. She knows how to like bring things together, but like Martha does A to Z with purpose and perfection. And like, I love watching that because I love to learn that stuff. Yeah, Megan's also seems to be very passionate about gardening, which like I would, I want to learn how to garden.

46:14Like no one will teach me. Can she teach me? I feel like that's something that she knows how to do. There's not a lot. She's just like picking from her garden, but like, what about seeds? There are so many people better suited to teach you about how to make a garden. This is the problem. She's the one who got a TV show. So get to work, you know? Yeah. But so she should have her gardener on to explain to us how to make a garden. Yeah. Well, she had her beekeeper on. Got it. But I don't want bees. That's pretty cool. Yeah. So she has bees and she makes her own honey? She makes her own honey and now she sells it too.

46:50I also think the product, she launched the product webpage. It'll be available in a few months. Like I think she should have waited. I think she should have waited because it looks silly. She should have done the show, like built up demand, like, oh, everybody wants flower sprinkles, honey, and my preserves. Here you go. As opposed to just like assuming that everyone would because it looks just so self-promotional. And of course, at the end of the day, it is because this is a business and you want to sell things. But there's ways of making it look more organic, I think. I did not realize that she was launching products.

47:20She's selling these motherfucking flower sprinkles that in the first episode, I was like, oh, what's a flower sprinkle? It's like flower petals, like really small flower petals that you sprinkle on top of the food. They are edible. They only provide like prettiness, nothing else. Understood. But like you wouldn't put sprinkles on like every – She made avocado toast with a fried egg and put on top flower sprinkles. Yeah. Not necessary. But like nobody needs to see how you make avocado toast. Well, she was like – No, it was like she was starting off the show, but she was hungry, hadn't had breakfast, So she made her and her producer like just a little whipped a little something, which is actually the kind of stuff I like to see because that's like real life.

48:01Just like whipping up an avocado toast with an egg. Sure. You know? Yeah, I just don't need that on TV. Okay. Personally. Personally, I don't need it. I need to watch Ina Garten show me that if you take puff pastry and roll it into a hot dog. That's our favorite. That's what I need, Jackie. Do you ever watch Joanna Gaines' show? I have a little bit. But not enough. It is what Megan's show wants to be. And I think between that and apparently the Pamela Anderson cooking show, that's the template. Joanna Gaines is so good. Have you ever watched Masterclass? No, I don't know. Do you know what that is?

48:37Not the app. Yeah. So I've only seen it on the plane. Like whenever I'm on a plane. But it's like an app. But they have it on the plane? I guess they must show episodes as like an ad to download Masterclass. Yeah. So it's on the plane. and so like I will watch sponsor here yes we love master class I will watch 10 episodes of an Italian chef on how to make like 10 dishes but like it's so unbelievably interesting because they are making things from scratch that you've never heard of never thought of that like you should watch those they're so good have you ever made your own tomato sauce I have made my own tomato sauce i've always made it accidentally a little bit too sugary um because like i like i gotta send you this recipe i gotta send you this recipe send me change ben i can't eat rayos anymore can you imagine what's in it onions caramelized like for 20 minutes of like slow stir okay crushed tomatoes from the jar basil oregano dried a little bit butter delish delish yeah love oh my gosh I like my Sam and Ben made it for me when they came over they've ruined me and then I saw another recipe for tomato sauce on Reels last night I want to try it I've actually made if you if you want to go back and look at it the first reel I ever made with uh Miss Alex Garnaschelli was uh fresh pasta and fresh tomato sauce fresh pasta I think is what's next for me it's not hard at all you do need the pasta maker uh the thing for the KitchenAid yeah for the KitchenAid the attachments so that you can make it nice and thin.

50:20But it really, it's not hard. One thing just to be aware of, it cooks like that. Yeah. Like it's not, it's literally, it's a minute. Yeah. Like a minute and it's cooked. Dried pasta takes eight to 10 minutes. Fresh pasta cooks immediately. One day. So don't overdo it. I think I'm going to make a challah today. Yum. Yeah. Love it. I find making challah really hard. I don't bake. Like rolling out the strands. they're never the right size i don't bake if i start making unhealthy things like i'm already like on manjaro and can't lose weight like if i start if i start baking i once read somewhere that literally ruined me i read this like a few months ago that was like you can eat whatever you want if you make it yourself which i think is actually like a good premise like if you make like cookies from scratch like you can eat them you know because it's healthier one and I don't know too and like the time all the calories you burn making them I was gonna say or like pasta and all those things but I do think like she didn't have us in mind when the person said that no she also didn't have weight loss or weight maintenance in mind like yes you can eat whatever you want as long as you make it and be a healthy person are you going to be a skinny person doing that no but i think you will be healthy because you're eating like healthy ingredients in home for sure you're gonna be a fat healthy person if you're fat and healthy like if you're a person who eats a lot like you're not gonna lose weight that way 100 this is my current problem i'm eating so much good stuff yeah same but i'm eating but i'm eating but i'm just overeating i'm just overeating yeah it's hard it's hard it's hard i eat because i'm unhappy i'm unhappy because i eat this is me this is me that's the best quote ever it's me that's that bastard i am that quote the source yeah i didn't i didn't eat any corn so good anyways to go back to the story and i actually don't want to go back to talking about megan but what mindy keeling did say about like the fact that this clip has gone so viral she said you know i had a great time i've noticed that whenever I do something, anything related to Megan, it becomes big news.

52:37She said, we were making sandwiches and then they'll push in on my face on TikTok and they'll be like, look at this emotion you felt. And I honestly didn't even remember it because we shot it like nine months ago. She said, I love my time with Megan. I'm also like, let her promote her show. It was great and really fascinating seeing the reaction. So she's coming to her defense a bit. I was going to say, all that I take away is that Mindy Kaling is a good friend. Yeah, she is a good friend. I also love Mindy Kaling. I love the Mindy Project I thought it was very strange that all they spoke about was The Office like no Mindy Project like I think of I know Mindy Kaling was on The Office but like Mindy Project is is in the Hall of Fame so good I haven't seen it so good what you haven't seen the Mindy Project no and I just had this conversation with Claudia so I don't want to bore people okay I'm just stunned because like it's great because I know she said I would love it it's great and you'd love it that's all okay we won't bore people we won't bore people I have a list of things I want to watch in my notebook.

53:35Mindy Project. Mindy Project. It sounds good. Yeah, Mindy Project is a good one. Okay, are you ready for our next story? I am. Actually, something really funny. Because CW's Powerpuff Girls live action reboot footage has leaked. So CW was set to reboot Powerpuff Girls, like an adult-centric version starring Dove Cameron, Chloe Bennett and Yana Peralt and Donald Feisen from Scrubs and Clueless and the reboot was like canceled and now footage from the show which they did film and they put together a trailer for the trailer leaked it's hard to find um because they keep taking it down from everywhere that puts it up but Ben and I got to watch it and it's seriously a train wreck um Bubbles is drunk buttercup hates gender normative costumes and the other one is what was the other one i don't remember it was a hot mess it was oh so the other one was constantly stressed so they canceled it they filmed it paid these people and then canned it yeah they it didn't get greenlit wow that's how bad it was and you can see from the trailer like it's like a eyes version of you know what they think they should be making these days that just turned out so bad and you know i love to have cameron um descendants for life and i really enjoy watching stuff that she's in this really would have been the same it's funny i definitely would have watched it because like i'm a big cw guy i don't know if you know this but like i had a real dale of course we were yeah i exactly riverdale and then after riverdale i went in claudia didn't even watch this I watched on my own, the reboot of Sabrina.

55:18Oh. With, I forget her name. What's that? Yes. I love that shit. It wasn't like a good show, but I loved it. Like, I love that. I love that stuff. So like, I feel like I would have given this show a chance. I'm just happy that I didn't have the chance to give it a chance because you get enough from the trailer that this would have been so bad. So bad. So bad. Like, would have ruined Powerpuff Girls for everyone. I mean, like Powerpuff Girls are for kids. And so to make an adult version of like a kid's thing is always just weird to me and has to really be done perfectly. It has to be funny. Like the only way to do that is humor.

55:55Like bad Santa, right? Like if you're going to take Santa Claus and make him like an angry drunk, it better be funny. Like humor is the only way that you get an exception to ruining something. if you're ruining it seriously and like making powerpuff girls have anxiety and alcoholism it's just nuts no like nuts like seriously one of the worst ideas i've ever heard i'm shocked that the people who approved the idea were also smart enough to be like you know what this can't see the light of day yes uh yeah i'm sure that the person who approved it didn't also can it i'm sure those are two different people and the person who approved it probably no longer works of the company yeah because it looks like they spent a lot of money jackie between talent like it wasn't poorly filmed talent but then like it was weird i mean it's only a trailer but it was just like this one house and they keep like filming the outside of the house it still felt like they spent millions trailer it's taken down on youtube we were able to find it on x but like every post i was sending men it was like still coming down but just search powerpuff girls trailer and like try and watch it because it's really painful i'm sure that you can find it on TikTok because nothing's removed from TikTok.

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1:03:38Oh, okay. No, I'm done. No, no, no. I'm done extending the ad break. It's too long. Go. Claudia, I don't think Claudia will listen to this episode because, like, she knows everything that we're saying. And she's sick. But if she were, she would be vomiting at how long you talked to these ads. Yeah, we made the ad break 15 minutes. My bad. I feel like the teacher's gone. The kids can do what they want. Yeah, I'm sorry. She's so funny. It's my fault. My bad, my bad. Listen, we're having fun. We are. It's a Friday. We're nothing if not fun. Let's give the sponsors a little extra something. A thousand percent.

1:04:13But people, use your codes. Okay. Our fifth and final story is a little Masked Singer news, which we never talk about the Masked Singer here, especially because they do a really good job of never telling us who won or who was under those costumes. But I did see that our girl, spoiler alert, Sheena Shea was the bat. I'm so happy for Sheena that she made it onto like a really big competition reality show like this because we all know she really wanted to be on Dancing with the Stars. And she also does sing. So her being on The Masked Singer is really parchee for her. She was revealed to be the latest celebrity on Wednesday's episode of Fox's hit music competition series, The Masked Singer.

1:04:49She was unmasked as the Bat during the show's Voices of Olympus, Unmasking of the Gods-themed night. I do not understand the show or what they do or what the fuck I'm saying. um for bat though no one got it right everyone so the judges got to guess robin thick said bethany frankel jenny mccarthy walberg went with larsa pippin rita ora thought heidi montag then went with bethany as well ken jong thought it was lisa rinna turned out it was sheener marie shea and then she's saying espresso for the crowd wow tough song why didn't she sing it wait why didn't she sing an original why didn't she sing what one of her originals no because this song this show is like people doing covers like celebrities with oh pretty decent voices like they mask who they are people have to try and guess who it is and then you get eliminated like based on performance and i'm also just gleaning based on everything i've seen and then you reveal yourself you know my manifestation abilities are like through the roof right like you're aware of this like if I like want something like I'm gonna get it no I didn't know that well you want to be a Masked Singer no I want Claudia to be on Masked Singer oh yeah we've said this she would be really great yeah but like she like probably didn't manifest it like it's gonna happen like I don't know why she wouldn't her voice is so unbelievably good yeah she'd be and and she would be so good yeah okay we're gonna do it we're gonna do it well those are the fast five stories for you now it is time for our southern charm recap the crew last episode in the bahamas last night is just a mess chef and sienna i don't know if like that if you know what's going on with chef and sienna but basically he's like been dating this girl or he thought he was dating this girl in the bahamas for the last few weeks they took a cash trip down there went to at least they went to a pargy destination they went to um the rosewood i believe in the bahamas and so that like she could be with them and you know meet everyone and blah blah blah and she literally won't give him the time of day and it's like breaking up with him and it's really really weird to watch him just not get a clue and the fact that she stayed at the dinner after she had broken up with him when like nobody really wanted her there because she'd ruined their trip because Shep was like so upset by everything and they're all there for her they could have gone anywhere else and they're just like okay if you guys aren't even together like why are you at the dinner table and because she was at the dinner table they were kind of grilling her with questions which also wasn't fair because it's like listen you guys are all friends this girl's like coming on to this show and it's just like not right it just was uncomfortable for everyone and uh thankfully she left and that was the right thing for everyone involved um but Craig and Austin made up which was very exciting as Craig and Austin fans they finally had a breakthrough in this fight that they have kept having where like Austin just thinks that Craig you know doesn't want to hang out with him and is kind of blowing him off and that he just wants to like be home in his garden and Craig finally understood like what Austin was trying to say and where he was coming from and so he opened up that he'd actually been struggling with addiction and like not doing the things that he used to do with Austin like he needed to not do those things in order to stay on the straight and narrow and Austin had said like he felt like Craig doesn't go out because he wants to protect this like image that he's portrayed you know this like very clean image and that he's trying to convince other people of this image and Craig was like no I that image is what I aspire to be like that image helps me stay in line I'm trying to convince myself to be that person I felt like that was a really good distinction and help them like see each other and like Craig was able to see what Austin had been thinking of him and Austin was able to understand what Craig's actually been doing and how it's not coming from a place of like I'm better than you and I'm just gonna stay home and I'm boring now but like really trying to better himself um and I'm so glad that they had that breakthrough because I think that things will be going up from here but I think for Craig this was obviously a big moment and I think since he broke up with Paige people have been alluding to the fact that like Paige helped him through a really tough time and she'd always been there for him and like I think forgave some stuff and then coupled with this episode you do like seem to understand and it was sad because he talked about how like Paige was so there for him and like he's never he he's never been so connected with another person like through everything that they've been through and like how grateful he is that she like saw him.

1:09:06And even when he was, wasn't at his best, like she saw that there was a person there and like, it just was like, Oh, sucks that they're not together. Yeah. That was a wonderful recap. Honestly, they're all, they're all of those guys are, are friends. Craig and I obviously are very close and, and he's the best, but having spent a lot of time with Austin, he's also really great. And having spent a lot of time with Shep, he's also really great so you've spent time with them like would you say it when's the most time you spent with them like since because this was filmed in June so like before June or after I both both so whenever I go to South Carolina difference in their friendship before this breakthrough conversation versus after um do they seem closer now I think that based on what you're telling me it seems like they're closer now yeah I think I like but but I I never like noticed them not being close like we would play guy time no like no like we would play golf together and like have a good time and like uh yeah no it didn't and like i just they're they're all great uh and uh all that i'll say on the craig uh addiction stuff just because i want to talk about it is he came on good guys like 14 months ago and basically spoke about this and so the fact that this is like now new news that people are talking about i know that it's in the storyline but like we've known for a while that i like hard alcohol is something that doesn't agree with craig which is actually why he loves spritz society because it's a low alcohol wine-based product like you'll see he drinks beer he drinks wine yeah like these like lower these lower abv products he drinks the higher stuff he just it just doesn't agree with him yeah i think that like austin had said But I feel like, yes, maybe he had talked about it before, but I think the depth of how much it affected him was something that not a lot of people knew.

1:11:05And he talked about addiction before, even in his books, he talked about his previous Adderall addiction, which we saw play out on the show. Yeah. But I think just like being really honest about that, maybe he was more honest on Good Guys. Maybe Austin missed that episode. Yeah. That's what happens when you don't listen to Good Guys. I know, which like, I don't know what you people are doing. But it's like weird watching. Like I don't watch Southern charm because when I do, it's just weird. I can't explain it. He's your friend. It's just weird because I know all of the guys like, like, like really know them.

1:11:37And like, to like see, not that the drama is by any means fake. It's just like, I just like, I can't relate to it. Like, like I, I don't know. Like I, they're, they're just all really nice guys, at least in my experience. Having interviewed them, I totally agree. and having had them on the show. Also, Craig also has bees. Have you met his bees? No, I have not met Craig's bees. But like Craig, like back to Meghan Markle, like Craig really, like in terms of like gardening, in terms of beekeeping, in terms of like, I would rather learn from Craig how to do all of those Martha Stewart-esque things than Meghan.

1:12:18Especially because like he's a recent student. And so I find that so relatable when someone's like, you know, they didn't, they don't have this in their blood. They weren't doing this since they could talk. Like they learned recently and then they're sharing that now. I feel like that's more how I would relate to someone. It's like, oh, you learned this a year ago and you're an expert now. Like Parji, I feel inspired. Yeah. I'm going to talk about it because it's never going to actually happen. But like, I wanted to pitch a show with Craig called Straight Guys Throwing Dinner Parties, where Craig does everything as it relates to the tablescape.

1:12:53and I do everything in the kitchen. And I don't know more than that what it is, but it's like a straight guy's version of Queer Eye. And I thought it could have been really fun. I love that. I thought it could have been really fun. And I just think that he, with showing down South and just everything that he's accomplished, seeing like a behind the scenes look at Craig, he worked so unbelievably hard, has such a great team and like really is just like a great businessman entrepreneur. and is like a trusted source in the home making sector. Yeah. Like I would watch it. Even if I wasn't on it. Even if they were like, okay, Ben, we like your idea, but we don't have a need for you.

1:13:36Yeah, probably. I know. I know. Yeah, I'd still watch it. I'd still watch it. I do think they have a need for you. I'd be a little sour. Yeah. What? You're going to get cast in instead of me? I don't think so. No, probably not. like you never know probably not probably not okay well that's the southern charm recap oh my god except next week like seriously looks crazy because they're back in charleston and do you know who jt is i i met jt at a at a party i don't know i don't know you're like literally how are you spending all this time in charleston um because we have all this spritz stuff to do but it's like that you go into parties with jt no no no no the the party was in new york at carriage house for the season 10 opening of or a premier party for Southern Charm that Spurs Society sponsored that's when I met JT it was a quick drive-by okay also I need to mention something that I saw this week that I wanted to mention when we talked about Southern Charm which is Vanita um so she shared that basically she had a conversation with JT before they went to the Bahamas where she was like I'm ready to tell him how I feel about him I'm making him Brinzino I know he feels the same way like I'm ready to like take this thing to the next level they're really good friends but they've been flirting all season so she lays it on thick and you know unabashedly is like I like you like I'm ready to go let's go and JT who's literally flirting with her and leading her on this entire time says that he has a girlfriend damn okay she's like crestfallen and upset about this then they go to the Bahamas and the whole time in the Bahamas she's kind of like throwing herself at him flirting with him going up to his room when he's sad apparently she like mounted him and he had to like push her off of him and we're like what are you doing not only is that wrong because he has a girlfriend it's just like embarrassing and what are you doing she posted on her instagram that the conversation with the brand zino happened after the bahamas the editors did her dirty looking like she knew that he already had a girlfriend and she's still trying to get with him so i feel like everybody needs to know that that even though i mean i don't know why she's like so obsessed with jt that's a whole other story and he's sending her these like paragraphs and it's just all weird um that conversation happened after the bahamas so When she went up to his room, she had no idea he had a girlfriend.

1:15:44And justice for Anita, because that's wrong. Wrong. Next week, Leva is having coffee with JT, and she says, you go to the same barber as Ryan, and the barber told Ryan that you said cut and something crazy. I don't know what he said, but it's visibly the barber. And I just have to say shout out to Ryan, because I was watching last night's episode, and I was like, who is Ryan in this world, and why is he on the show, and why is he on this trip? I thought he was Rodrigo's husband, but then everyone said that he's not. I have no idea who he is but now I'm feeling really grateful to Ryan and I look forward to hearing what the barber said, the JC said.

1:16:19Yes. Yes. And that's your Southern Charm recap. You give a great recap. Thank you, Bunchalish. Really good. Concise. Not too concise. Pretty long-winded. Well, there's just a lot to say and also the Craigie of it all. Yeah, let me clarify. You give a great long-winded recap. Okay, thank you. now it's time for our queenie and weenie of the week it's would you like me to yeah would you like me to go first you want to go first yeah claudia usually introduces like what the segment is okay like most people really know like it's pretty self-explanatory queenie of the week someone who behaved in a queenie like way we need someone who believed in a weenie like way and will hold the title for the next seven days and it's not that serious who is your queenie this week my queenie is and will always be my wife oh my god i really knew you were gonna say that no but like watching her be pregnant like she's doing such a good job it's so hard you know how hard it is but like she's doing so good and she has so many great days and like even when she's not having a great day like she's willing herself to have a better day like she she really is uh just just the best and doing amazing things and growing a child inside of her and that's like really really wild um so she's my queenie and then my weenie has to be me because i got my pregnant wife sick like that's just like not acceptable that maybe you didn't yeah i don't know so then maybe my weenie is her friends it's whoever got her sick okay let me i just like but like i'm sick jackie how is it not her how is it not me like it has to be even though like i don't think sinus infections are contagious but like it's either me it's whoever got my pregnant wife sick is that's what i wrote that's what i wrote okay i think that's really good usually we both like do Queenie and then we both do Meanie, but it's fine.

1:18:05Oh, so sorry. We're switching up. There's no rules on this Friday's. My Queenie of the Week are the people who have brought me the most joy this week, and that's Rascal Flatts in announcing their refueled duets album. Like, let me just tell you, this has given me such a joie de vivre and a pep in my step. And I love Rascal Flatts, and I do hope that they give us a discount on their private concert rate because we really want to have them come out for Claudia's birthday to our house in the Hamptons. love yeah but now i'm seeing it's like uh kind of like a million dollars yeah it's a little it's much more or less um so we've been priced out how much is papa roach how i don't know can't you do a google apparently you guys did this on good guys yeah we did we did um a lot of them are what you think they'd be and a lot of them are actually much cheaper so you just gotta find like who's like a little bit down on their luck like you know but like still has like three great songs yeah like i think unfortunately like gen z took a chokehold of teenage dirtbag but like weedus should have been cheap and like i should have been able to get weedus for like 25 grand but because gen z loves that song they're probably like 500 grand but what songs do they have besides teenage dirtbag jackie it's just weedus you're seriously asking the wrong person all these questions are being asked towards the wrong person i thought i thought you were a rocker I guess I thought wrong yeah I think so my weenie of the week it's always so tough isn't it I think my weenie of the week is going to be I don't know I was going to go Mark Zuckerberg with the Benson Boone performance but like I don't know he was having fun doesn't that like make me a weenie for clowning on someone for having fun a little bit so I'll go Oscars yeah the whole night piece of shite yeah yeah it was definitely bad i'm sure you guys like did this at nauseam but like uh i'll just say like one quick comment which is uh you can't be you can't capitalize off of the holocaust and be free palestine oh uh well that's for damn sure you're you're more than welcome to and i mean this wholeheartedly like you can be free palestine i can't control you you can do whatever you want you can have your own opinions you can have your own thoughts i'll have mine but you cannot capitalize off of the death of jews and then be free palestine one or the other that feels right one of the other guy one of the other guy pierce one of the other one of the other pick and pick and choose um before you go i also have one more story um or we were going right yeah yeah that's the end of the show so say whatever you'd like okay i want to tell you one quick story because i think that you'll laugh um claudia Did Claudia tell you the story about my dad and airline miles?

1:20:56No. Or no? Okay. So I get a call from my dad. And I know it's always going to be something random. Like, hi, can you literally order stuffed cabbage or gefilte fish for your mom on Uber Eats? Those are the types of calls that I get. He calls me. He's like, your mom and I want to go to Israel in July. One of my cousins is in the Maccabee games for hockey. Go him. Go cousin. I have like a million miles on JetBlue. I'm like, you have a million miles on JetBlue? First of all, JetBlue doesn't fly there, so that doesn't help you. But how do you have a million miles? I'm like, can you go and check? Like, just go check quickly.

1:21:33Like, how many miles do you have? Let's see. He logs in, Jackie. He has 19 ,000 miles. He's like, where can that take me? I'm like, Dad, that can get you a one-way ticket to Buffalo. So this is, so that's that. Well, you know, when you round up. When you round up, you're at 20 ,000. And you can hear more stories like that on the Good Guys podcast. That's what we talk about. My Meshuggan appearance. The good guys, not the great guys. Oh, my God. You guys, like, you literally heard that we had a great theme song. And you made a theme song that is so good. It is so good. Like, start your day half swirly.

1:22:16It's the toast. What I want to do, I want to make like a 15 minute sitcom that like starts with that because it's obviously what it is. Like if you just put the Hannah Montana laugh track at the end of that, even though I love your line, I sound so good. But like if it went from start your day off, swirly, it's the toast. And then you walk in and all of a sudden it's just like, like somebody left the sprinkler on and all of my shit is ruined. We should do that in our spare time. And you guys should collaborate with Gabby Barrett for a version of her song, Good Ones, instead called Good Guys. You're one of the good guys.

1:23:02I love you like you should. Like you wrote the book. You know that song? Of course. I wonder what she'd cost. You guys should have her on the pod. I'm in. I'm in. We should do it. We should do it. We're just such musicians I mean we have music just flowing We're such musicians It's so true We can't stop the beat Can't stop the beat Is that it? Or is that we got the beat? We got the beat We got the beat Got the beat Yeah Is that a commercial? Or is that a song? It's a song Okay cool But it's probably also been used The Go-Go's? Yeah maybe that sounds right that sounds right okay maybe we should end the show before the cards run out so thank you so much for listening to the toast the greatest show on the planet eons ahead of the good guys that's what I hear love you so much and we will see you on Monday I hope everyone has a great weekend make sure to follow Ben at Boy With No Job follow Spritz at Spritz and we will see you on the next one love ya bye love ya bye no we now we do it we do it on our own because got it got it got it got it love love yeah

1:24:27why won't we let this episode end i don't know one more okay good