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Episode
Tiny Violins: Wednesday, January 21st, 2026
Hosts
- Jackie Oshry (@JackieOshry)
- Claudia Oshry (@girlwithnojob)
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Episode Summary
In this episode of *The Toast*, the hosts delve into a variety of trending celebrity news stories, discussing everything from Taylor Swift's alleged comments about Justin Baldoni to the latest Razzie nominations. The episode also includes a Dear Toasters advice segment addressing relationship and personal dilemmas.
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Key Stories Discussed
- Taylor Swift's Alleged Texts *(15:41)*
- Allegation that Taylor Swift called Justin Baldoni a "bitch" with a "tiny violin" in a text message to Blake Lively.
- Discussion on the context of the texts, revolving around Blake's frustrations with Baldoni while editing a film.
- Speculation that these comments might relate to Taylor's song "Cancelled," but the hosts believe this is a misinterpretation.
- 2026 Razzie Nominations *(30:20)*
- Highlights of the nominations, including "Snow White" and Ice Cube’s "War of the Worlds" as leading contenders.
- Discussion on the significance of the Razzies and some of the nominees, including worst actor contenders.
- Margot Robbie's Comments *(38:31)*
- Margot Robbie describes becoming "codependent" with Jacob Elordi during the filming of *Wuthering Heights*.
- Discussion on the implications of such statements in Hollywood and the dynamics of on-set relationships.
- Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's Relationship *(50:11)*
- The couple reportedly facing their "first real test" in relationship amidst wedding planning.
- Discussion on the pressures of wedding planning, especially with Travis's potential NFL retirement looming.
- Jordon Hudson and Alix Earle's Outing *(54:55)*
- The two were seen hanging out together at the College Football National Championship.
- Discussion on the implications of their relationship and their connection to the event.
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Dear Toasters Advice Segment *(1:02:10)*
Advice Highlights
- Mother-in-law Tension: A listener expresses frustration with her mother-in-law's behavior following childbirth. Jackie and Claudia advise that the listener's husband should handle the situation and assert boundaries regarding appreciation and respect for the mother.
- Borrowing Money from Boyfriend: A listener borrows cash from her boyfriend and forgets to pay him back immediately. The hosts discuss differing philosophies on money in relationships and suggest communication is key to addressing the issue.
- Annoying Eating Habits: A listener finds her fiancé's finger-licking habits gross. The hosts recommend having an honest conversation about hygiene and etiquette.
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Conclusion The hosts wrap up the episode with their characteristic humor and camaraderie, encouraging listeners to engage with the show on social media and submit their own questions for the advice segment.
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Notes for Listeners
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This episode demonstrates the show's unique blend of pop culture commentary and personal advice while fostering a sense of community among its listeners.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMakeup Mishap and Interview Prep
0:45 to 1:48
Hosts discuss a makeup mishap and the stakes for their upcoming interview.
“morning and it was just a clusterfuck and we're interviewing someone today for tomorrow's episode So not to like tease, but.”
Debating Celebrity Drama
1:48 to 2:43
Discussion on a noteworthy celebrity drama involving Victoria Beckham.
“You see Victoria posted three Instagram stories this morning?”
The Complications of Family Feuds
2:43 to 3:31
Exploring the complexities of public feuds within families, specifically the Beckham family.
“But then And there's also now like AI generated sexually suggestive content about you.”
Speculating on Pregnancy Rumors
3:31 to 5:01
Hosts share theories about potential pregnancy rumors surrounding Nicola and Brooklyn Beckham.
“And I know a lot of people are on Brooklyn's side.”
Celebrity Texts and Drama Updates
5:01 to 6:10
Discussion on recent celebrity text messages and ongoing drama in the media.
“There's also lots of Justin Baltony Blake lively news.”
Reviewing 'Tell Me Lies'
6:10 to 8:00
Discussion about the show 'Tell Me Lies' and the hosts' viewing experience.
“Then I read this kind of email that Blake wrote to Ben Affleck.”
Literary Discussions and Recommendations
8:00 to 9:49
Hosts discuss recent reads and their thoughts on popular books.
“So like I like that this show immerses me and that I care because all the only other stuff I watch is reality.”
Celebrity Projects and Future Releases
9:49 to 11:28
Conversation about upcoming celebrity projects, including movies and adaptations.
“Maybe it was about like Elizabeth and Mary Kate Olson, you know?”
Deer Toasters Community Insights
11:28 to 12:13
Hosts thank their community and discuss its engagement with the podcast.
“So you're getting that fresh set boost in a suddenly totally doable way.”
Taylor Swift's Tiny Violin Controversy
15:40 to 17:42
Explore the latest drama involving Taylor Swift and Justin Baldoni and its implications.
“Um, and they're talking about the edit and like where to use Taylor's music.”
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Insight into Blake Lively's Editing Challenges
17:44 to 20:58
A deep dive into Blake Lively's struggles with her film edit and star-studded support.
“And I'm like, there's so much more interesting stuff here.”
The Allegations Against Justin Baldoni
21:00 to 24:57
Discussing the various allegations against Justin Baldoni and their impact on his reputation.
“So she lists out all the things that she writes is like precursor to the list being like, I am an impassioned woman.”
The Fallout of the Lively-Baldoni Saga
24:58 to 28:00
Examining the lasting effects of the Lively and Baldoni conflict on their careers.
“And that's the little Lily, Jenny Slate, and Blake Lively.”
The Fallout from Celebrity Scandals
28:00 to 30:20
Discussing the impact of scandals on careers in Hollywood.
“But I don't see her getting another legitimate project for like a decade.”
Razzie Nominations Overview
30:20 to 31:05
Exploring the nominations for the Razzie Awards and their significance.
“Okay, this is kind of like our Super Bowl.”
Critique of Current Films and Actors
31:05 to 34:00
Analyzing various films and performances nominated for Razzies.
“Wait, you're going to give me opportunity to talk shit about Ben Platt?”
The Evolution of the Razzies
34:00 to 37:10
Discussing how the Razzies need to adapt to modern film culture.
“She was making more money than her husband.”
Margot Robbie's Codependency Reflection
37:10 to 42:00
Margot Robbie shares her feelings of codependency while filming.
“Do you know that it stands for the Golden Raspberry Awards?”
George Clooney's Kissing Comments
42:00 to 43:33
Discussing George Clooney's recent comments about no longer kissing 'girls' in movies and the implications behind them.
“And he's trying to age grace, like kind of like Robert De Niro.”
Songs About Olivia
43:33 to 45:21
A light-hearted discussion about songs featuring the name Olivia and personal connections to the name.
“I just feel like it's easy to turn, like, to say this now when that's not what's coming your way.”
Celebrity Gossip: Brooklyn and Nicola
49:05 to 54:02
Discussing recent comments by Justin Anderson regarding Brooklyn Beckham and Nicola Peltz's relationship.
“I was just checking the stories to see that nothing new happened.”
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's Relationship
54:02 to 56:00
Examining rumors about Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's wedding planning and relationship dynamics amid career changes.
“For someone to go out after winning the Super Bowl or getting to the Super Bowl the argument would be well they're at the top of their game.”
Celebrity Relationships and Expectations
56:00 to 58:10
Explore the dynamics of celebrity relationships and societal expectations around love.
“Like, what more could you want out of a relationship at this age?”
Sports Talk: College Championships and NFL
58:10 to 1:00:50
A discussion on recent college football championships and NFL playoff scenarios.
“Oh, yeah, but I thought we were just talking about the playoffs started.”
Dear Toasters: Advice on Relationships
1:00:50 to 1:02:20
Addressing listener-submitted questions about relationship dynamics and family interactions.
“I was watching Zach's show with him, unfortunately.”
Navigating Relationship Challenges
1:02:20 to 1:10:01
Examining challenges in relationships regarding money and personal habits.
“I need some advice on how to handle my mother-in-law, just kind of giving the toxic mother-in-law theme.”
Disgusting Dining Habits
1:10:01 to 1:11:52
A discussion on the gross eating habits of some men and how to address them.
“So I just feel like this is a situation where you need to like not be beat.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy wednesday wednesday what a weird week not complaining no thank you to martin luther um happy wednesday jackie it's hump day a very special day of the week here how you doing i'm doing good my morning was all far-clemped because last night i like spilled all over my makeup i had to wash my makeup brushes they were like still a little damp this morning and it was just a clusterfuck and we're interviewing someone today for tomorrow's episode So not to like tease, but. There's a lot at stake visually today. There's a lot at stake visually today.
0:56And I was like, of course today. When there's a lot at stake visually, my bronzer brush is a little damp. You know, like just a quick fix that you called your sister turdy. Just run it into the blow dryer. It'll be dry in 10 seconds. Oh, true. I was sitting there with my blow dryer. But I had this new little nifty machine. So I just like kept running it in the dry cycle. It didn't work. But. Yeah, well, if you were to ever just call me. Work slowly. Your life would be better. I couldn't call you. I couldn't talk because there was like a sleeping baby. It was just a lot. There was a lot going on.
1:23Okay. So happy to be here. Wednesday tings. The news keeps newsin'. The news keeps newsin'. Kind of a bombshell episode yesterday. Of course, you know, a myriad of reflections from people, feedback, good, bad, I disagree, Team Brooklyn, Team whatever. And I just love spirited debate. I do about nonsensical things. Although, like, the deeper we get into this, it's really not nonsensical. It's unbelievably tragic. No, we were talking last night. It's making me sick for Victoria. Like, I'm sick for her. You see Victoria posted three Instagram stories this morning? No. And Nicola keeps posting nonsense, like no caption, just like her in a pair of sweatpants, like rage baiting.
2:00Well, you know, it is a good time for engagement. She posted, it's Emma's birthday, Baby Spice. So she posted happy birthday, Baby Spice. Victoria. Yeah. Happy birthday, Baby Spice. And then like an old reel, like a clip from one of their music videos. And then her third was supporting Cruz or Romeo. I forget which one it was. I think he's like a performer and he had a performance sellout so she posted the poster. Because she does support her family members. So proud of you at Cruise. Well that's giving like what you said is a lie because I support my children. Right. It was like a little heavy handed.
2:31Well I'm just sick for her. Like imagine like the person who's like making your life a misery who you're like feuding, beefing with in the public like is your own child so you can't even really root against them. Right of course. You know what I mean? Like you don't want to see someone talking like clowning on your child. But then And there's also now like AI generated sexually suggestive content about you. I like posted one and I thought it was funny. And then I saw them getting like progressively more graphic. And I was like, wait, this actually isn't funny. So it's like people are making sexually explicit content about your mom and whose fault is it?
2:57It's kind of yours. So it's just actually a really complicated issue. I haven't seen anything like super inappropriate. The ones I've seen so far have been really funny. It's like AI generated videos of the way that Victoria was probably dancing at the wedding. And it's like silly. And it's like the break dancer from the Olympics. Like that's all funny and good. Yeah, I saw them getting more suggestive and tighter clothes. Well, that's what he had said. Correct.
3:21Insinuation? That's my girl. I was going to say the impression, but that's not right. The insinuation was made by one Brooklyn Beckham. Pelts, excuse me. Yeah. So it's honestly sad. And I know a lot of people are on Brooklyn's side. And I understand when you look at it, it's like, how could you be toxic mother? I'm just like I'm never going to side with that person who did that. That's exactly my takeaway. You did that. Someone who's airing the family laundry, barring anything absolutely crazy and disgusting happening. I'm never going to be on your side. And, you know, I was chatting with a friend of mine who had a really interesting theory.
4:01I want to give credit, but like. What's the problem? Okay, like just in case this theory is true, like it was from Susie Weiss. She had a good theory because we were like gossiping about it. I see someone whose opinion I respect. She's also a very family oriented person. So I'm like, what do you make of it? She said, you know, I feel like maybe Nicola could be pregnant. I had that thought too, because he mentioned our future children twice. And like, this is such a fiercely protective thing of Brooklyn to do for his wife. You know, it seems like it's been a really bad situation for a long time.
4:29But like, why now? Why this Instagram story? Like, what was the boiling point that he had to put his foot down? Like, it's been rather quiet. And you know, he's a young boy, perhaps on the brink of fatherhood for the first time. and that can send you into like a really overprotective overdrive. So that was Susie's thought, which I actually thought was quite poignant. Yeah. There's potential, you know. I thought the same when he talked about their future children, that there's, you know, maybe they're thinking about children, but I don't think she's pregnant. Yeah. So all's that to say, we will, of course, continue to be speaking.
5:00But I wouldn't speculate on a woman's pregnancy or a body. There's also lots of Justin Baltony Blake lively news. I feel like they've been kind of quiet. Things have been coming out over the last couple of months. Nothing worth reporting on. And I feel like it's just like for the people who are really obsessed with it. But so much, the unredacted Taylor Swift text messages came out, the unredacted Ben Affleck emails, the unredacted group chat between Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds and Matt Damon and his wife. Like and shout out to the girls on TikTok because Jackie was like, who has time to read all these text messages?
5:29I'm like, certainly not me. I want to see a screenshot of the text. I know, but not a court document. Right. It's like all transcribed and written out in paragraphs. Like I need to see the text. That's how I can process texts. When I was getting my makeup done this morning, like the girls on TikTok who are obsessed, they put their own spin on it and they all hate Blake Lively. So I was just trying to be unbiased listening. When I was doing my makeup, I put the TikTok on and they read me all the text messages, which was so delightful. So I read the ones between Blake and Taylor. And they are exactly what you think they are.
5:54Like two feminist women. Like how you think Blake and Taylor talk to one another is how they, I'm your Khaleesi. You're my dragon. Like so, like you could say what you want about the two of them. They are who they are. Like, it's so authentic. Then I read the group text between Lucy and Matt Damon with Blake and Ryan. Then I read this kind of email that Blake wrote to Ben Affleck. And then also, like, this letter that she wrote to the Producers Guild, which is kind of... What did she write to Ben Affleck? So, at this stage, a lot of the documents that were being... Is this a story? Yes. So, should we get into the story?
6:32Wait. I watched the first episode of Tell Me Lies. Okay, we're going to talk about Tell Me Lies. I'm putting in the work, and I just told Ben, because what's been holding me back, obviously, is, like, my will to watch it. But also, like, I get into bed here, like... Oh, is that my nanette? Oh, sorry. The nanette is always on. I'm so sorry. Wait, it's not even on. That's crazy. Hold on. Everyone be quiet. Oh, hi, sweetie. I love you so much. You're my mama. Okay. Sorry about that. Nap time.
7:00I watched the first episode of Tell Me Lies, and what was holding me back was obviously, like, I really was, like, not in the mood to watch it. because it gives me terrible anxiety. But also, like, I'm just kind of stuck with this hanger-on-er. Betty's like, what are we watching? I'm like, who's we? We're watching season three of Tell Me the Highs. So we were, like, scrolling last night trying to watch something. I'm like, listen, just pay attention. We're watching episode three. Like, season three, episode one. We watched the intro previously on. There was so much to catch up on. He was so lost.
7:25I wouldn't expect him to be found. Like, he just has to sort of resign to the fact that he's not going to get in. He can scroll on his phone. That's exactly what he ended up doing. And then we ended up watching Martha after for him. I watched one episode. That's compromise. That's marriage. I'm getting caught up. I'm putting in the work. And I just want to say, like, the show, it gives me such bad anxiety. It gives me two, but in, like, a good way of, like, I feel something. Because I'm on the edge of my seat. And I'm in it. I'm enraptured, whereas, like, we can't get off our phones on other shows.
7:54Oh, yeah. And it's really hard for me to care about, like, a fictional TV show. Like, it's just made up shit. Yeah, right. So like I like that this show immerses me and that I care because all the only other stuff I watch is reality. Yes. And so I only watch first episode, but I'm putting in the work. We're talking a little bit about Tommy Lies. Anything else you want to chat about? A little pre PFFB. I've been reading for the Redheads. We're reading this like new buzzy book, Wild Dork Shore or whatever. Dork? Miserable book. And I'm like 50 percent in. And I'm really excited for the episode because.
8:23The worse the book, the better the episode. I don't think it's a bad book. Everyone loves it. It's Reese's. It's like the crawdads. And I do feel like it's trying to be crawdads. And I'm just like, you guys, why are you reading this? Like when you could be reading Confessions of a Shopaholic and you would choose to read this. The Nightingale. You would choose to read something like this. You know, when Elle was on the red carpet, actually, somebody asked her about The Nightingale. Someone who was obviously doing good work. I want to say it was Zuri Hall. Being like, what's going on? And she said she's so excited.
8:56and it's on its way, allegedly. And they're also being the Hilton sisters. Are they? Elle and Dakota, yeah. Shout out. In a movie about their lives. Oh, I love that. I wonder which one's coming first. Such different projects. I feel like the Hilton one. I've heard more about it. That's great. I love that. Yeah. We don't know who's playing who, though. Well, Dakota's kind of always been the Paris, even though Elle is so having a moment. Also, I think I heard that Elle was older than Dakota and it just like made no sense to me. No, she's definitely not. I know. That's what I said. She's definitely not.
9:32But OK. Who's older, Dakota or Elle? Fanning? Needs not said. Dakota is older than Elle. So obviously where I heard that was wrong. Or you just are recalling it improperly. You know, maybe it was about different siblings that you would think one's older. Unlikely. Maybe it was about like Elizabeth and Mary Kate Olson, you know? For sure. Because one thing about me, like, I know all the players. But the way that Dakota and Elle Fanning, like, Elle Fanning is Elizabeth Olsen. Yeah. Okay. I'm glad you agree. Yeah, I don't think that's, like. Controversial? No, not at all. I think it is. Yeah, no, people are going to be offended.
10:08It's like an insane take. Well, let's get into the stories because, as we said, there's a lot to talk about. We're also doing Deer Toasters today. As promised, the DTQ will be fed. And I would like to thank the Deer Toasters community for, like, you know. For keeping it in their pants? Yeah, what's the word? For, like. Sitting on their hands? No, no, like where you like controlling themselves. Let me just explain what I'm looking for first. Like not giving into temptation where you're like not withholding, but like. Willpower. No, what is it like for like a for like controlling themselves, but like in a more sophisticated way.
10:44What did you say? Probably sure. No. All right, whatever. For acting normal. I saw like I saw like one hate comment from the DTQ. For the most part, I feel like the DTQ understood. I really think, aside from that one person, nobody yesterday was like, what about their toasters? No, because the BPQ greater than the DTQ, the Beckham Peltz community. Yeah, and the Kyle and Amanda community. You wrecked. So now, without further do-do-do-do-do, it is time for the Fast Five stories that you do need to know. And the Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by Fabletics. There's something about a new set that makes you feel unstoppable.
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16:33Um, and they're talking about the edit and like where to use Taylor's music. And Taylor is like, well, I'm your ally. And he, you know, he shouldn't use the music. Like they're so in it together. Um, and, and I guess some stuff had started to come out in the press because Taylor said, you know, obviously, um, he's like gone into like, um, offensive mode, um, being like a little bitch. Like they are so in the way. She said, I think this bitch knows something is coming because he's gotten out his tiny violin. And so now everyone's like, well, tiny violin is a lyric in Cancelled. Did you bring a tiny violin to a knife fight?
17:11And it's like, do you think Taylor was referencing her own personal text messages? No, but that's just how she speaks about people who play the victim then. Yes, that could be anyone. Yeah, I agree. I don't think at all this is a confirmation that this song is about Blake Lively. No, I agree. Because also, as far as we know, her and Blake aren't friends anymore. So the song wouldn't make any sense because she says she likes her friends Cancelled. Yeah. So I never thought the song was about Blake Lively. And it would be about Justin Baldoni, actually. He's the one with the tiny violin here. But I think that's just like a term she uses when someone is playing the victim.
17:39It's a good term. It is a good term. That's what everyone was tagging me. And I'm like, there's so much more interesting stuff here. To me, there's two things. One that everyone's talking about, which is like just the high level of cringe of Blake Lively in this moment. So she has her edit. She has 10 days to make an edit. So she reaches out to Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. They started Artist Equity. They're huge filmmakers. Like, they know everything. thing so she was asking them both individually to watch her version um and there's like this program obviously like people use it's called pics she's like i'll give you my login call me for the one-time passcode um so the the thread between her and the daemons was released and they're like yeah sure we'll watch it she was like your kids can watch it if they like the book just know it talks about domestic violence here i'll give you my code here's what's been going on this filmmaker slash producer slash financer is a crazy person he's in a cult he asked they're talking about how you know he called Blake's trainer and asked how much she weighed two weeks after giving birth because he has low bone density and he needs to be in shape to lift her and so they're just like telling Matt and Lucy and Matt and Lucy are like wow this is crazy oh also that's great to know how Blake sees it like just straight up without legal docs like what was going on and how she described the situation that's really helpful and then she sort of wrote similarly to we don't know what Ben Affleck responded because she just wrote this long really cringy email like oh I hope you're doing well if you got to the end of this email oh my god you're such a good friend like really like just exactly what you would think she talks like is how she talks um so she was reaching out to people in her life who she clearly was close with like or is close with because she felt comfortable enough to ask them to watch a movie which I guess maybe Matt Damon and Ben Affleck get asked a lot but it did seem like a big ask like she was like I'm not sure if you know like about this it's been like the nightmare of my life and here, yada, yada.
19:23It is a big ask, but if you're friends and this is your specialty, like I would, if my close friend was launching a podcast, I would listen to the first episode and give you my thoughts. It was clear that Blake really wanted her edit to win. Right. She gave it everything. So she pulled out every gun in her arsenal and still lost. Yeah. Now that is what everyone's talking about. Although I feel like, of course, like I do think that things are so slanted when it comes to this because no one's really also talking about that in everything that's been released, there's now like two other female co-stars who did testify that Justin Baldoni was inappropriate.
19:55We know Jenny Slate. And then her text message was released being like, he is the most crazy, intense narcissist. I cannot wait for this project to be over. He is so creepy and weird. And then the actress who plays little Blake said that in the scene where she loses her virginity to Atlas, like the throwback scene, he like ended it and said to her, like, that was really hot. Even though it's a scene where like she's losing her virginity, like this homeless kid, like it's like not a hot scene. Like it's like, it's like, it's it's like a deep scene it's not hot yeah like it's not meant to be hot yeah it's emotional right so things are being like there's so much more things for Blake and her crime once again is being cringe and like being weird I don't find anything that has been released yet to be oh we need to talk about the producers guild okay so so who released these text messages who did what does it prove it's unreliated it's not really it's not public information like the trial is starting but whose side does this prove it depends who you want whose side you're on and who you want to argue like what does this prove i don't know it's also just the text messages are so personal i don't 100 see how they're relevant like it just makes you like really and i saw this girl on tiktok and it's so true she's like this is a reminder like not to put shit in writing like you think you're just helping your friend out with her work issue and now you're in court like yeah it's insane it's such an invasion it is it's messed up it is like not lucy damon like she was just like being a supportive friend i don't want to hear your voice notes and i feel self-conscious when i'm leaving them because i just don't feel like they're at the level of entertainment that a voice note should be at like maybe we should be leaving more voice notes it's definitely made me think twice about like helping my friend out with her workplace drama or maybe we need like an app where yeah it's just not like it's just because you can't even talk shit in peace so not like it's like you're not even doing anything criminal you just want to talk shit in peace the producers guild letter which is really like it's an insane letter again like you can see how she speaks and she's just like a really impassioned cringy like feminist and like how she talks is how she talks so she writes this letter to the production guild association basically being like here's a list of all the things i've done for this project because it's a clusterfuck and nobody here knows what they're doing and the writer producer director financier is a first time at all this and he knows nothing and he's an idiot and I'm smart.
22:14I'm big, you're small. I'm dumb. So she lists out all the things that she writes is like precursor to the list being like, I am an impassioned woman. And all of this, I think in an attempt to get a, like an executive producer credit being like, I've done the work of an executive producer. And so the whole issue is that she is the first lawsuit is like her, I think it's title seven, in Title IX, I forget which one it is. It's an employment lawsuit where she is suing her employer. But this letter is like she wanted to be a producer, in which case she wouldn't be an employee or she would be like an independent contractor.
22:49So this this letter like holds a lot of legal weight as to whether her lawsuit will be valid. Right. And also Justin Balzoni, I don't know if this is his legal claim, but at least like his public claim is that like Blake and Ryan tried to steal the movie from him and then, you know, get the second one and like take this whole thing that was meant to be his. And that letter, even though she's like listing out all the things that he did wrong, kind of proves that point that she's trying to take the movie. Whether it's because she thought he was incompetent or because she's just a movie stealer. Well, based on all the evidence, she really thought he was like the most incompetent and how it wasn't fair that he's not only financing the film, he is technically the head of the studio producing it.
23:28He's the director and the star. He was spread too thin. This was his first time doing most of it on a set this big and he was just incompetent. Like there is proof, like of all these things that are being released, which are really bad for Blake, there is proof that I don't believe it was malicious. She really found him to be incompetent. Yeah, not like her and Ryan being like, this movie's going to be gangbusters. Let's get the next one. Let's push this guy out. Now also in the text messages, there's a lot of times she's like referencing him in his cult. And it's more so his religion, which like isn't a good look.
23:57I don't know anything about, it's called the Baha 'i religion. She calls it a cult many times, especially because, you know, the head of Wayfair is Justin and this guy who's also Baha 'i and he is super wealthy. He's this billionaire. He's financing this lawsuit entirely. So she keeps referencing, you know, his religion as a cult, which is not good. I don't know anything about it, but it's just like, you know, that's not good either. I've not heard that. I don't know a lot about that religion. I've not heard that it's a cult. Right. She's giving it like the Scientology treatment. But, you know, some people, you know, a lot of people say all religion is a cult.
24:32Right. Right. is she a religious woman? I'm not getting the vibe. Yeah. So it's obviously not looking good for Blake, but I feel like the heart of the matter is really being looked over, at least by like the girls on TikTok who want to have sex with Justin Baldoni. It's like, well, there are now three women on record saying like he was inappropriate. He was creepy. He said inappropriate things, HR violations, which is like really what the start of this whole thing was. Yeah. And that's the little Lily, Jenny Slate, and Blake Lively. Yeah. And the faux feminist allegations, of course. Not a crime.
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25:13But it just seems as though Taylor and Blake were like, I don't think I'm to be a fake feminist. We're so in this together. Yeah. And why aren't they friends anymore? That's what the issue. When she said, I'll always have your back. Now, the Baldoni stans have sort of surmised that, you know, Taylor found out that Blake was making all this up. No. That's what they think. I don't think that she's making all that up. I think that's how she experienced it. But also, I guess lesson learned, don't sign on to a project with a first-time director, actor, financier, producer. But that was the board going into it, and she's made many a movie.
25:51No, and say what you want about Justin Baldoni. He sought out the project. He bought the script. This was his. It's not a crime to do it for the first time. It's his first time on Earth, too. Right. it was his project to fuck up like he sought out colleen he bought the right like his studio also his cut was chosen even after blake and all of her khaleesi dragons did the most on their big one on her cut they still liked his better the movie did really well there's nothing wrong with the movie oh and not that i saw it i watched it right but i had some issues with it but overall it was a very good movie audience feedback like it was a real movie he made a movie absolutely so it's not like he put together some atrocity and we wouldn't see it whatever he made is what we saw and he made a real movie I don't know why it was so abhorrent to her yeah yeah and hers was worse than that because allegedly yeah like no but they had two focus groups watch the movies and they chose justin's that's as objective as you can get no it's really crazy that she pulled out like every connection she had to edit this film and she didn't win but you said earlier that like the studio also didn't like Justin's.
27:00That's why they gave her 10 days. In her document she said that Sony has asked her to come up with another version. Maybe that's her version of events and she was so angry and Sony said sure put together your own version we'll test it. Like knowing it would flop. Yeah not like Justin's is really bad Blake come save us in 10 days. They're like placating to her. Blake save us in 10 days. Right. Okay. Yeah. Now I don't remember like what we're all even fighting for anymore. Like if Blake wins what does she get if justin wins what does he get they've both been really tarnished by this i don't agree if blake wins she gets nothing if justin wins he gets salvation like like he gets his it to me it doesn't really matter what the docs say because sorry what the court says because i do believe people have made up their mind on this and like i do think blake lively's career is effectively over because of it but she's around she's everywhere yeah like a like a lunatic kind Kind of like acting like no.
27:57Like I think she's just ignoring it moving on with her life. But I don't see her getting another legitimate project for like a decade. Honestly. I and her friendship with Taylor is over. I feel like this whole saga has ruined Blake Lively's career. I don't feel that way about Justin Baldoni. Well she had a bigger career to lose. She had more to lose. You know I think he was doing like making his own projects anyway. And doing weird little things. He can still do that. And like at the end of the day for him it was like a rising tides raise all ships. Like he was this very lesser known. He was in one show and he had a cult following from his podcast.
28:28But like he was not a household name by any means. He is now. Yeah. Whether he likes it or not. But I don't know if that's going to translate to movie roles. No. I think for the most part, people would want to stay away from both of them. Like who the fuck wants this? Yeah. But you'd be surprised what people can come back from. It's so true. And if the right person wants to promote you, like you get into the next big movie and it's over. We forget about the thing that, oh, remember when we used to talk about that all the time? Like. Yeah. But we're just like still talking about it because it's an active.
28:53Yeah. And it's not going to be over till, oh, I guess coming up two months. Wow. That year flew. But it's just beginning. Yeah. Yeah. But then it will be over. And I'm saying like you really would be surprised what people can forget. It's true. Look at us. Look at Colton. Yeah. We didn't forget. Like we forget stuff all the time. We're like, remember when? That was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So I have hope for both of them. And I think they'll need like powerful friends, which she has slash had. I know. And he has his friend guy with the money. Now, if I'm Lucy and Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, like I'm pissed.
29:28But they don't come off badly. They're trying to help their friend. Yeah. Yeah. But it's just like, who wants to be dragged into this? I don't know. Honestly, if anything, I find them favorable. That's a nice thing to do for a friend. Yeah, of course. And yeah, it's not over. Like you can come back. Yeah. But in terms of this saga, like I do feel like it's over. Like the internet has decided like Blake is the villain and Justin was her victim. And he almost had his life and career ruined by this evil witch. And now he's saving himself. Well, he does need to say like he, he did. If he didn't launch this legal battle, he was done.
30:12He was done. Now it's like, it's just more, they're both done. Yeah. Right. It's so true. But he was done. Yes. Yeah. Okay. You ready for our next story? The best story of the year. Razzie nominations. Okay, this is kind of like our Super Bowl. This is our Super Bowl. But unfortunately, I really don't know a lot of these projects. Well, that means they should get Razzies. Yeah, I guess I didn't like watch that much stuff. But worst picture, the category. We're going to go through the categories. Category, biggest one, worst picture. The Electric State. Never heard of it. Hurry Up Tomorrow. Snow White.
30:46Who's? Rachel Zeigler. Winner. Star Trek. Was that this year? That's insane. I mean was it even bad or it was just like it was like I had the it ends with us like so much drama it overshadowed the actual movie people forget about the it ends with us actual film and people definitely don't even like but but I do believe it was terrible between of course like the Rachel Zegler Gal Gadot anti-semitism but then also like the dwarfs or yeah we can say well dwarfism like yeah yeah yeah yeah but that's the name of it like that's just the little people the CGI like it was sort of just terrible curse from the start war of the world Mark Platt you know I do think Snow White might sweep the Razzies this year Mark Platt justice for Mark Platt he tried you just know and you know it's not his fault he's a hit maker you know Mark Platt like has a lot on his plate I feel like he goes to bed at night yeah I feel like he goes yeah with like a lot of Suris yeah from Ben Platt Yeah, his ungrateful son.
31:51Wench. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, you're going to give me opportunity to talk shit about Ben Platt? I'm not going to miss it. I didn't think you would. Worst actor, Ben Platt. No, I'm kidding. Dave Bautista in The Lost Lands, Ice Cube, War of the Worlds, Scott Eastwood, Alarum. I just feel like that's not fair. Just leave Ice Cube and Scott Eastwood out of this, honestly. No, you could leave Ice Cube in it. Oh, okay. Leave Scott Eastwood out of this. Oh my God. Thank you for reminding me about random people. So I'm scrolling Netflix last night before we watched Tell Me Lies. And I ended up, it says like Star Search, which I guess is like this old show that's coming back.
32:29And I'm looking at this huge banner of the four guests. And I swear to God, it was like looking at a Monet. I'm like, who are these people? And I very quickly realized it is the most random group of people. Okay. And they all look so different. I didn't recognize him. Jelly Roll. Didn't recognize. Chrissy Teigen. Did not recognize. What are they? the judges sure sarah michelle geller with bangs didn't recognize anthony anderson he was only one i did recognize and what are they're on star search jackie i was like so confused as to what i was looking at and i took a picture i was like can you look you tell me that you recognize any it was like the most it looked like ai generated human beings like
33:12well jelly roll you know no but he's like new looking right but he has the tattoos Chrissy Teigen was irrecognizable to me. Same with Sarah Michelle Gellar. I think Anthony Anderson looks so recognizable. He has lost a lot of weight. Yeah, Sarah Michelle Gellar could be 40 different people. Yeah, right. Yeah. And they are the judges of Star Search. Anthony Anderson. Sarah Michelle Gellar. Yeah, yeah. Chrissy Teigen, you can come back for anything, Koji. It's so true. Even though I don't know if I would consider this a big, huge comeback. And I do think Chrissy Teigen has successfully been... Rehabilitated?
33:45No, not canceled because she still gets work, but she's been knocked down. Oh, yeah. A few pegs. She's not at the level. She was so famous. She was everywhere. Every opportunity for a model, a host, a funny person, a talking head. Where's Chrissy Teigen? Yeah. She was making more money than her husband. And then, of course, her business cravings was huge. Her line of Target, pans, cookbooks, like content. Safely. Safely. They're assies, sorry. More worse after. Jared Leto, Tron, The Weeknd for Hurry Up Tomorrow. No one is immune. That's what I love about the Razzies. They say that death is a great equalizer.
34:23I actually believe it to be the Razzies. Yeah. Worst actress, Ariana DeBose, Love Hurts. I don't know that project, but I feel as though she's capable of delivering a worse acting performance. I agree. I've seen that medley. Mila Djokovic, In the Lost Lands, Natalie Portman, Fountain of Youth. Oh, wow. I definitely could see it. Natalie Portman. I just want to say I could see Natalie Portman also delivering like one of the worst performances of the year. Yeah, and like just taking on the wrong project, getting on the wrong horse. Because she's like so Hollywood, like classic actress. I could see her having like this really insane sense.
34:53She went too hard in pain. Sense of like self-importance, yeah. Rebel Wilson, Bridehard. Oh, she was robbed. Like seriously, leave Rebel Wilson alone. Oh, really? I feel like she's like classic Razzie's fodder. But like I feel like she takes pride in the fact that she takes on movies that like sure could be nominated for Razzie. like okay right ride hard she doesn't take it so serious title of that movie bride hard i just feel like rebel wilson is genuinely like a lost individual in this moment like i think that she lost a lot of weight and had like lost her sense of self honestly i think that happens a lot with like actresses they go i feel like melissa mccarthy went through like a weird period because you're just like cast exclusively as like the funny fat friend and then you become like you don't know and then you want to do serious like and i feel like rebel wilson like seriously she never found herself after she lost the weight honestly and michelle yo star trek wow she also taking big swings honorable mention to michelle yo and wicked also definitely ruined the franchise like a worst i feel like performance we weren't talking about it in the first film because there was so much hype and like excitement and now that the second film is out done and dusted i do think we need to talk about how michelle yo like borderline ruined a lot of the music and just like the movie did you watch the second movie no me neither isn't that crazy wicked too for money great joke great joke worst remake ripoff or sequel I know what you did last summer Five Nights at Freddy's 2 Smurfs Snow White and War of the World what's unfun about the ragazes this year is that like not only have I not seen these pictures I have not heard of them like it's more fun when like take a swing at something that's nominated for an Oscar well yes but also I think that they exclusively include like traditional film releases whereas like they should be including like Netflix movies Hulu shows Like, yeah, it's still a little old school.
36:41The Razzies, the Razzies need to evolve. They do need to evolve. And I feel like they feel like they don't need to evolve because they're like, you know what? Maybe we'll just like fade into oblivion. Like nobody's waiting. No, no, no. We and we need the Razzies to encompass like what the Golden Globes. It's a one award show that has to do a lot. You know, what about your TV shows? Worst podcast. Oh, my God. I have a few I need to mention. The good guys, of course. No, they don't do TV shows. No, they need to evolve. Yeah, we need more from the Razzies. Nobody watched these movies. I'm shocked that the Razzies did.
37:13Yeah. But don't go anywhere, Razzies. We support you. And we love you. Just do better. Do you know that it stands for the Golden Raspberry Awards? No, why Raspberry? I don't know. The 46th edition. I wonder who's hosting. I think it's you. Dream job. But is there an actual ceremony? And I know we have this question every year. There is, because I feel like we've reported on who hosts Thrasse's dream job. Dream job. Not this year, though. I'm busy. You're just a lost boy. Yeah, I know who you are, but you don't know what you lost, boy. Too busy chasing stars. You know? Who sings that? Kelsey Ballerini!
38:03Leave it to her. You are such a fucking bitch! Oh my God. Listen, you. Do you want to sing something in your register? Would that make you feel more comfortable? I just did. Okay, fine. No, you know what? You're so unworthy of my talents. That's not true. I've been your biggest champion. Are you ready? Yes. Historically, you've been. Yes. Will you continue to be? Remains to be seen. Are you ready for our third story? Yes. Actors are being weird. Ugh. Red flag. Margot Robbie says she became codependent with Jacob Elordi while making Wuthering Heights. And she's like, she should be immune to this sort of like cringe clickbaity type of content.
38:50So in a new cast interview with Fandango, Margot Robbie reflected on collaborating. Okay, throwback Fandango. Fandango on collaborating with her fellow Australian star, Jacob Elordi. Oh, I didn't realize they were both Australian. That's cute. I should. She said, I'm so codependent with people I work with and I love everyone so much. And I'm always that person who's so devastated when a job's over and I never want it to end. I think I developed that quite quickly with Jacob, too. She then recalled how Jacob hovered nearby as she worked on set. Not unlike lurking Heathcliff. Oh, that Heathcliff.
39:21I don't know if Emerald, the director, told you to do this or you did this, she said. But I remember the first couple of days on set, he would just always be in the vicinity where I was. But like in a corner watching Kathy. I didn't tell him to do that. I actually had to ask him to leave. She said, by the third day of filming, I found myself starting to look around to see where he was. I was really unnerved and unmoored. And I felt quite lost. Oh, like the more unmoored. And I felt quite lost, like a kid without their blanket or something. We have a mutual obsession, he agreed. If you have the opportunity to share a film set with Margot Robbie, you're going to make sure you're within five to ten meters at all times, watching how she drinks tea, how she eats her food.
39:57She's just like an elite actor. and like genuinely like this is where hollywood really loses like you would never suspect that she has a husband and child talking like this about jacob lordy and that he has a sometimes girlfriend olivia jade who he doesn't want to piss off any further than he already has because she's has one foot out the door like this is not how people in relationships talk about other people like this jackie inappropriate this is not how co-workers talk about one another like this is such an hr violation where's like lively like this is so weird let's talk about what happened instead of Wuthering Heights.
40:28And I just feel like celebrities and actors are always trying to normalize like how weird their job is to us. Whether it's, you know, kissing someone and you're married and they're like, no, it's normal, it's normal. And being like, yeah, I mean, we're always codependent with, like, this is fucking weird. And I just like, where are the actors who treat their jobs like jobs and then go home to their loving family and like talk about how weird it was? The guy from Nesbitt Housewives. Yes. He's the only one. Shout out to whatever your name is and like I seriously, and your wife. Someone else said, was it George Clooney who just said that he's no longer doing roles where he's kissing?
41:03I don't know if I'm giving him way too much credit. I don't feel like he said that. And I don't feel like he does a lot of kissing. Right, but now he's like not playing the leading man. He's just like somebody's grandpa. Right, now you're acting like it's your choice. It's like, well, you're not really eligible to kiss anyone anymore either. Okay, George Clooney not kissing in movies anymore. Yes, George Clooney has stated he's done with on-screen kissing and romantic leading roles. I just feel like he's been done. Oh, citing his age. Now in his 60s and his desire to follow the path of Paul Newman as he embraces older roles inspired by conversations with his wife about aging gracefully and focusing on different types of films.
41:36These are like two separate things, right? I thought you were saying like as a ode to his wife, he won't be making out anymore. He's not doing what the Desperate Housewives guy did. And it's like it's easy to say I'm not playing the leading man in a romantic movie anymore when you're no longer being cast. They're not eligible. Say that in your heyday. Take the stance in your heyday. Like now it's like, well, of course you have taking on different sorts of roles. And I get what he's saying. Like if he wanted to be a lead man in a romantic movie, like he could find that job, but it's really not his job anymore.
42:04So like, let's leave it to others. And he's trying to age grace, like kind of like Robert De Niro. He hasn't been like a leading romantic man in many years. He's trying to take a moral stance like he's doing it for his wife. He's been married for a long time. Did he say that? It sounded like he did it. He said, I'm not kissing girls anymore. He said girls? Well, I hope you're a hundred. Why would you be kissing girls? I'm going to read you his direct quote. George Clooney says he's no longer, quote, kissing girls in movies. Why is he saying girls? When I turned 60, I had a conversation with my wife, he said.
42:32He said the quote is kissing girls. I'll try and find the larger sentence. Women is the word he's looking for. Why would George Clooney, the old man, ever be kissing a girl? Call the police. Like, that's weird. Okay. Here, this is better. Quote, I've been trying to go the route Paul Newman did. Quote, okay, well, I'm not kissing a girl anymore. Okay, a girl is better. I agree. But it's just a weird choice of words, and it makes me give them a little, you know. Yeah. When I turned 60, I had a conversation with my wife. I said, look, I can still play basketball with the boys. I play with 25-year-old guys.
43:05I can still hang. I'm in shape. But in 25 years, I'm 85 years old. It doesn't matter how many granola bars you eat. That's a real number. But that's in 25 years. This is once again. And I just feel like he's trying to be mature, but he's still being like, I can play. I could do it if I wanted to. Right. Everybody wants me to do it because I'm so hot and sexy, but I'm not going to do it. Right. And also, like, nobody cares. Like, not to be mean. Like, George Clooney has not really had, like, an impactful film that he starred in in many years. Yeah. I just feel like it's easy to turn, like, to say this now when that's not what's coming your way.
43:39Right. You're not really giving up a lot. Yeah, right. That's what I'm saying. But, yes, it was George Clooney who said it. The great George Clooney. Like if Jacob Elordi said, I'm no longer kissing girls because I'm devoted to my love. Olivia Jade. Yeah. I would say, wow, he's really sacrificing for her. Yeah. I just really want Jacob Elordi to say this. I live for you. I long for you, Olivia. Hoo, hoo. I've been idolizing the light in your eyes, Olivia. Hoo, hoo. I live for you. I long for you, Olivia. Don't let me go. You know? I think that's how he feels and sometimes I hate my sister Olivia because there are so many amazing songs with the name Olivia in them of course the one I just sang by One Direction there's also an amazing John Mayer song let me just remind myself of what it is John Mayer Olivia yeah I'm thinking something like Olivia could keep me through the night like if my name was Olivia and two of those songs existed the way they would like be my every instagram story if i had a raya profile it would like be it would be the theme of my like the theme song of my life and like if i was ever on dancing with the stars and they had like the theme song night i would be dancing to olivia by one direction considering your name is not olivia what is the theme song to your life jeez that's such a big it's such a big question i don't expect you to have an answer i feel like the toasters would know better than me i know it's really off in the comments what is the soundtrack track of my life.
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49:12I did. I hadn't seen this yet. He's a trusted source. Yes, he is. I feel he's an unbiased, tell it she is straight type of guy. So he commented on something. He's a celebrity hairstylist. He did a Q &A and somebody was like wanting his take. He's like, everybody wants my take. Oh, he also commented on someone's Instagram post and said, Brooklyn's wife was one of the worst, quote, celebs I've ever worked with. It's her 100%. She's a bad apple. Red flag emoji. She everyone knows how close the Beckham family really is. Dot, dot, dot. So he said that in his story to like he got booked to, and he said it was the worst experience of his life.
49:43And that's kind of the, the theme around people who know and work with her. I have heard that for years and yet, which maybe like when we heard it, she was a young girl and like girls are allowed to grow up and grow. But it seems like. The common denominator. Yeah. And Victoria's probably ice, you know, ice cream. She is, but she's earned the right to be. And it just seems like Nicola is this like spoiled brat. Yeah. Nepo baby. I found that to be interesting. Our next story. Rumors are quietly swirling. And I just want to make mention of it, though. I don't think that it's true, but that Taylor and Travis have hit some snags in their wedding planning.
50:22And some people. No one's immune. Some people are saying they're on the rocks. And I just want to say, I don't believe it to be true. I don't believe it to be true either. But like, just in case it's true. Let's just talk about how crazy it would be. Like, seriously, she can't. You can't. It's too late to turn back to the ship. They might as well be married already. Yeah. So according to Page Six, Taylor and Travis are reportedly going through their first real test in their relationship as his potential NFL retirement looms amid their wedding planning. You know what? It is a lot of change. Athletes always struggle when they retire.
50:53It's like your whole identity, your whole life, like from the time you're six playing peewee, whatever. I think it's a challenge for even the strongest of relationships. that combined with clearly a very stressful lawsuit and wedding wedding planning which is no matter how much money you have is difficult um yeah no i don't think it's true but i could see why people might yeah and that there's a lot of dynamics at play a source said that taylor has been more focused on lifting kelsey's quote defeated spirits following the chief's losing season than on making wedding arrangements i could see him like moping around the house yeah and plus he has to retire and now he's like jobless however he's not jobless poised for success post-retirement and anyone could possibly be he's like booked and busy he has like dreams of hollywood he has his podcast like he's not jobless just like sitting on the couch walking around the house ever compared to like getting up at 5 a.m like working out three times a day and like being solely like dedicated and focused on one thing it's a lot less i mean i don't you you can still like keep that if it's important to you that routine of like crazy there are people who get If Mark Wahlberg wakes up at four in the morning to work out three times a day and he doesn't even have a athletic job.
52:04Like, yeah, you can maintain that level if you want to. Yeah. But I think it's definitely tough on the body. And the mind, it's a mind to go from being like a professional athlete, top of your game to now. Yes. Being a podcaster, commentator, actor, whatever. Like, but your whole life was one thing. And to go through that transition, like while wedding planning, like let's give Travis some grace. Yes, and also I think sometimes it makes it easier if your partner's in the same space as you. You're also winding down. Taylor's not. She's probably preparing first because she prepares years in advance for some major tour.
52:36And her athletic schedule was probably on par with his. Yeah. Actually, I don't feel like she's preparing for a tour right now. I don't know. I think the circuits do any minute. I think they're building the crib and nursery. In the documentary, she starts the rehearsals and the training a year in advance. But didn't she say recently she is not touring again anytime soon? I feel like she said that I hope so like I feel like she left it all at the arrows tour good good like you worked hard like you do deserve five years off and like I want you to get married and have kids and I'm giving you the space to do that so keep releasing like your 800 albums I'll buy all of them to support like I need your t-shirt that comes in six months like if that's what you need to settle down do it yeah um so source says Taylor's trying to put him in a better mood by spending more time with him and not bombarding him with wedding plans she would want him to focus on the wedding after he makes his career decision because she knows how important that is to him I think also being up in the air about what to do.
53:25Once you make the decision, you can go forth, prosper. But being in the purgatory of not sure. It's terrible. What do you think he should do? It's tough because he's a part of this dynasty team, but everyone's younger than him. And so Patrick's not thinking about retiring. Patrick's career just started. And a lot of the new guys who I do think make Travis a little redundant in the roster, they're all younger than him. The team will go on to win another Super Bowl in the next couple of years. can Travis's body hold out like no and he's one like he's had an amazing career like let it he should have I know could have would have should have he should have retired after last year he made it to the Super Bowl losing the Super Bowl is still an amazing way to retire it's ideal to go out after a Super Bowl win but not everyone is Tom Brady and he didn't even go out after a Super Bowl win well the first time he did right he went out perfectly he should have just fucking like sleeping dogs lie.
54:18Right. But so like they can't. They actually can't. No men are sick. For someone to go out after winning the Super Bowl or getting to the Super Bowl the argument would be well they're at the top of their game. Right. Why would they quit now? Right. They cannot go out on top. It is impossible for them. So coulda woulda should have. He should have retired last year. And now like to go out like this is obviously terrible. So I understand. It's not even. No I understand why because now it's like well obviously losing the Super Bowl is a much better way to go out than not even making the playoffs. Like I understand why he's struggling so much, but it's almost like that decision paralysis is the worst part.
54:52Just do it. Make a decision. Stay or go. Now, I feel like this is a perfect segue into talking about the next story that I absolutely have to talk about. Tell me lies. Oh, no. I thought you were talking about Tom Brady. Oh, yeah. So I would like to thank the person who let me know that on July 23rd, 20. No, excuse me. July 20, July 13th, 2023. You know, when I heard that Alex Earl was spotted with Tom Brady, I was like, I feel like I predicted that. But I think that I predict everything. And I think that the world revolves around me. But on July 13th, 2023, we were talking about Alex and I'm cracking up.
55:27We spelled her name wrong. That Alex and Earl. Alex and Earl and Braxton and Berrios. And Hicks. Were spotted at the ESPYs, like the first red carpet appearance. And I remember we had this conversation and I'm going to play it for you guys. Okay.
55:45Shout out to the toaster who was listening to old episodes and found this. I was just being a hater being like, I, you know, it's so cute, but like, don't you feel like she could do better? Ready? Yep. Turn it up. Oh God. Please, please, please. Now they're kind of like both young. We're talking about Alex and Braxton. live in Miami. Like, what more could you want out of a relationship at this age? Yeah, but, like, you know, she rose to stardom. She's in a very unique position where, like, she could be really, like, she could date Tom Brady if she wanted. Like, let's aim higher. But what about love?
56:22What if she loves him? What about love, okay? What about love? I feel like sometimes you don't consider love. Like, do you think she would love Tom Brady genuinely? Yes, I think really truly anyone. could you think what if he's a tartarer no what if he's like the worst personality i'm sure he does because you don't get tens across the board in life like you don't get to be like the best quarterback of all time and also be like the most interesting dinner party guest that everyone wants to talk to and the most handsome all he cares about is football and his friends and his mom is that bad honestly i could listen to old episodes like for an eternity I just want to say we are two of the funniest dazzling funniest perceptive insightful girls I've ever met not only did I not predict what I was going to say next like I feel like I'm listening to a stranger at 10s across the board who talks like that dinner party guests I don't like genius the fact that we have so many haters genuinely blows my mind oh my god how enjoyable what a great podcast I just wanted credit for that I should listen to old episodes of the toast so I can have the experience of listening to the show not knowing what we're going to say.
57:37I can't because I'm always like, well, I should have said this. That would have been funnier. No, I have no notes on that. No, that was hysterical. Those girls are a slay. I just feel like we're moving away from the more important point, which is that I accurately predicted this. Yes. Oh, such a jealous bitch. You're such a jealous bitch. What's to predict? You predicted that she was going to rub her back in St. Barts? Yeah. Well, the story was that was going to segue way into like talking about claudia's great call jordan hudson and alex earl hanging out together at college football national championships we didn't even talk about the national championship they were such a big deal here in florida yes they were everyone's like are you going to the game and i'm like which one um hoosiers from indiana played here for the miami canes um college football um miami lost and it was crazy because the championship was said to be in miami and then miami was in the championship it's kind of how like the 49ers should be in the super bowl because the Super Bowl is in San Francisco this year.
58:29But they're not even in the semifinals. What? Did they make it? Are they in the four? It's over. They lost. Remember? Harry told you. Oh, yeah, but I thought we were just talking about the playoffs started. Yeah, now we're down to four teams, and then they're weirdest teams of all time. Oh, that's why I haven't heard about it. No one's talking. No celebrities? You could have never guessed which teams. Seahawks. Russell. Rams. Patriots. What's the fourth team? Broncos. What? No celebrities, except like the Rams. Yeah. What? Everyone's really shocked that the Patriots would be in, and apparently they're playing a team next week whose quarterback has an injury, so they don't have their quarterback.
59:11So the Patriots are going to be in the Super Bowl. Okay. Everyone's like, oh, my God, Robert Kraft's going back to the Super Bowl. I'm happy for him. He probably didn't think, like, after Tom. Well, Jordan put on her story a picture of her and Alex Earl at this game, And it led people to believe that perhaps Tom and Alex went to the game together because why would these two be in a suite together? Their connection is the Patriots. She's dating Bill Belichick. Tom Brady's former coach. It was a joke that Bill Belichick and Tom Brady are on double dates. Why was it a joke? Like, why would they be in the same?
59:40Oh, just because it's like a VIP suite. Yeah, but this is like Alex's town. Even though Alex made a lot of content. She went to a big pregame, like with her college friends, it looked like. Then I saw her with like Miami people like Dave Grutman. so I don't know maybe like she was I don't know like Jordan I can't I think she got there on her own I don't think Tom Brady went to the college football championships and like this is her town she runs this town she got I think she had the better ticket she runs this town for the Miami she has her own scholarship at the school like for the Hurricanes and the championship she could have any seat in the stadium and she shows to be next to Jordan I think Jordan just went up to her and took a picture Alex looks like she's posing with a fan like oh sweet smile go away nice to meet you nice to meet you have a great day tom was there tom was there wow are they the next travis and kelsey no like this is while i predicted it i don't actually like want them to be a long-term couple this is just a stepping stone for alex um so like maybe it was a date this is a perfect date for them i just want to say she looks like she's taking a picture with a fan i think jordan just walked up to her from her suite like jordan wood jordan jordan has a balls of fucking steel yeah she really does so that feels right so yes this podcast is going to be turning into a sports podcast soon we've been laying low yeah we have very dormant i didn't realize the 49ers were out like you know what made me sad the bills are out and i am officially ready for a bills super bowl of course i'm biased because of Bailey and her blossoming family.
1:01:16But Josh Allen deserves it. I saw a headline. I was watching Zach's show with him, unfortunately. And the headline was like, is Josh Allen wasting his prime years on the Bills? Oh, no. And I think the Bills fired their head coach after losing their game because I don't think he has what it takes. They need to just blame someone. No, I think like he's what's holding them back because I think everything else about the Bills is really strong. Right. But they're not making it to the Super Bowl. They are kind of cursed. I do believe it was like the OJ years that just sort of set them off on the wrong path.
1:01:42I don't think so. But I think they're like the ultimate underdog. Yeah, yeah, no. I'm like, if the NFL is scripted, they're not doing a good job. Like, no offense. No, no, this is a bad script. Yeah, or like somebody went off script. Yeah, like someone scored when they weren't supposed to score. Correct. They got carried away. They were supposed to throw the game. Because I don't think anybody was like prepared for this. So what is it going to be like? Seahawks, Broncos, Super Bowl? What is that? What is that? I don't know. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment where Jackie and I try to help out our community.
1:02:14This is sort of our philanthropic efforts we're giving back. It's tax deductible. Yes, it is. If you guys ever want to hear from us, you're going through something at work with a friend and a relationship, email us, deartosters at gmail.com or simply head over to our website, thetoastpodcast.com. Scroll down. There's a little submission box. Both methods are totally anonymous. Hey, Swirlies. I need some advice on how to handle my mother-in-law, just kind of giving the toxic mother-in-law theme. I recently just had my first baby and my mother-in-law has been getting on my last nerve first. She came into the room to meet my baby and went and beelined to my husband told him how proud she was of him right after I just gave birth.
1:02:45My husband told her immediately how proud of me he was which I thought would shut her up. Last week we saw her and she mentioned to my husband how she got him a push present because he had done so much. She's getting a round of golf for him for himself. I feel like this is so backwards because he didn't even push a baby out. What should I do? Should I say something the next time that this comes up? oh my god that's so offensive and as a future toxic mother-in-law even i can't defend this behavior um but i do want to say it is 100 incumbent on your husband to handle this of course not only you have a new baby but also because like it's his crazy mom he obviously is not going golfing you just had a fucking baby not only did she give him a push present she gave him like the worst she gave him yeah to take you a job like you are now alone with the baby for eight hours i don't think so he's not allowed to accept he needs to return the gift and say please spend this money and thought and time and energy on my wife she just was pregnant for 10 months and pushed out a baby and is broken and can't walk so um for the wife please he needs to put his foot down this ain't your problem just let it i just want to say as a future toxic mother-in-law i imagine god willing like when i have a daughter-in-law who gives me a grandchild you're still a woman like i'm going to love this woman like i i did it like i know what it takes and you gave be a grandchild like move aside boys yes it's like we are mothers but we're still women so i actually can't cannot relate to not seeing the woman in the room when you've done that yourself it's so true forget that much yeah and it's like while we love our children so much we're still common sense adults yeah i can recognize that you know up until the point of having the baby like in pregnancy a man can support his wife you know when you're allowed to be proud of your son like A lot of men step up.
1:04:25A lot of men are amazing partners. You can tell them that in private, not 45 seconds after the woman gave birth. For sure. But compared to what the woman has said, it's not even 1%. No. It's not even. And you know that. So I really cannot understand being so silly at the moment. I really can't. I'm sorry that's happened to you. Feel free to just, and that's the great thing about having a baby. Babies give you love, of course, but they also give you power. Because everybody wants to see the baby. You know who's in charge of who gets to see the baby? you. And I feel it's important that you wield that power like a knife.
1:04:58And so if she wants to act that way, that's amazing. You'll never see the baby. Like it is your package deal. 1000%. Next up. Hi, I have a relationship slash money question. Last week, I was going to the farmer's market and I wanted to have some cash on hand. I was at my boyfriend's house. We've been together for three years. He wasn't home. So I grabbed$100 out of his little drawer and I texted him that I was borrowing some cash. It slipped my mind to Venmo him. And a few days later, he kind of freaked out on me. He said that when you borrow money from someone, you need to remember to pay them back.
1:05:26I said I was sorry and I sent him the money immediately, but I felt like it was a kind of odd reaction. Like I said, we've been together for three years. We basically live together. I buy groceries. I cook most nights of the week. I've never asked him to pay me for his half. Am I overreacting by feeling weird that he was mad I didn't pay him back immediately? Or was I taking advantage of him? You were not taking advantage of him. You did nothing wrong like in my mind, but people are different about money and people are weird about money. And I I guess the idea of like, you know, actually taking cash from him is different than if he paid for you for something.
1:05:56But it's not. But after three years, like he should be happy that he had the cash to give you to go enjoy your afternoon at the farmer's market. It's very ungenerous of spirit. Now, if you're together for three years, I imagine there's a lot of good in your relationship. But you guys clearly have different philosophies when it comes to money. And that could be a problem down the line. Yeah, it could be a problem. Most of you just don't address it. So like you're buying groceries and cooking X nights a week and he's nickel and diming you on some borrowed cash. Well, then it's time for an invoice.
1:06:23Here's three years worth of groceries. My time, of course, my labor hours. I'm very expensive. It doesn't just go one way. Like when you're generous. And at the end of the day, you went to the farmer's market to get ingredients for him or his lazy ass. I like your approach. Communication does seem like the solution. It's not like, OK, when I borrow cash from you, I have to Venmo you. But when I do household things, it goes unnoticed. If we're going to be now splitting things, let's split them. No, and also like you want to take me to task for not paying back money that I borrowed. I want to take you to task for having an issue with me not paying back money that I borrowed.
1:06:55Like he thinks he's on his high horse because you should pay back money. Well, you should be generous. Well, of course. With your lady love. And so if this is a three-year relationship, it does sound like maybe you guys, like you've lived together. You're going to get married. Money is a thing you have to talk about. And clearly. You need to teach him generosity. just the way he's teaching you about you know paying back and i just want to say there's nothing worse than having to teach a man generosity like yeah it should be his spirit well hopefully he's open well maybe you know people have different philosophies out around money so maybe there's a reason why he is the way that he is but like you just sound lovely like you go to the farmer's market and you cook for your boyfriend like i know and he's like kind of a curmudgeon and he sounds gay so i would break up with him i would like i would i know this is a small thing but it's pissing me off.
1:07:43I would have a conversation first. I thought that was like a mature, uh, you could always break up with him. You know, you could always hit that button first, like try and get through to him and explain, like, first of all, you were, you could have been buying yourself a Chanel bag with that a hundred dollars. I don't care what you were doing, but at the end of the day, we're buying groceries for your home. Um, and if he wants to itemize everything in your life, let's do it. Let's do it. Right. Of course. And then, you know, about the pink tax, right? You know, you have to buy tampons, makeup and all these things just to survive in the patriarchy.
1:08:11So, and then you also make 70 cents on the dollar. So it sounds like at this point, he owes you money. Yeah. Get out your checkbook. Fifth and final, whatever it is. Hi guys. I love my fiance, a P jam, but every time he eats, he licks his fingers when he's done like a child, it's loud, it's wet. And it instantly sends a shiver down my spine. I can be sitting there running my business and then comes the sucking noises. And suddenly I'm so close to throwing a lot of napkins in his face. I've made jokes to him before. Like how do those fingers taste? and I even flat out mentioned it while he does it, but he just laughs it off and keeps on going.
1:08:44Meanwhile, I'm sitting there twitching like I'm in a horror movie every time he takes another bite. Am I being a future naggy bitch wife or is this actually like really gross and annoying? How is this? Are you always eating finger food? Should I bring it up again? If so, how? Thanks, love you, bye. Yeah, it does sound like licking your fingers is something only you do when you're eating with your hands, which is 10 % of the time, like ribs, hamburger, chicken fingers. Maybe he eats like a toddler because everything we just mentioned. Okay, well, you need to start, not to make it about you, but like you need to start promoting utensil usage.
1:09:14Yeah. Making meals that use utensils. This is where like being a wife like kind of coincides with being a mother. And it's like really annoying when you have to mother your husband and like teach them basic hygiene or just basic decorum. Even those foods we just mentioned, aside from ribs, hamburger is a clean, you don't lick off a hamburger. No, it's just ribs. It's just ribs. Chicken fingers are dry. What are you eating, chicken dust? Yeah. Yucky. Hot dog, bun, clean. Yeah, what is he eating? Like, unless you're eating cheese doodles. That's the only time you can lick a finger is when you're eating a dusty snack.
1:09:47Even then, like, fingernails are so disgusting. It's actually really gnarly. And is he washing his hands before the meal? That's why I love being a mom because I always have wipes on me now. And I find myself using them for myself more. Like, Cheeto dust is really yucky, actually, to lick off because fingers are just gross. Yeah. So I just feel like this is a situation where you need to like not be beat. He's going to get sick. Like he's going to get E. coli. He like this is a situation where you need to not like beat around the bush. You know how people who lick their fingers. Oh, the sound. All of it.
1:10:18Like I don't know what's grosser. Like the visual, the like the audible sound. It's fucking gross. So tell me you can't dine with him. Yeah. Tell him that he can have his dinner outside like with the pigs. Like it's just sick. It's really disgusting. Yeah. I hate that like this is a part of, you know, womanhood. I feel like Scott Galloway, you know, he's all about like how men are like lost. and it's true like you have to teach them basic human high like hygiene the things that we have to like train our men to do and i feel like i have a pretty good man like and i'm still being like we have to go brush our teeth like it's just like it is a serious issue i appreciate scott galloway like actually saving i don't he's not like referring to like this specifically but just more so like generally um it's a real issue i'm sorry and i'm sorry and i feel like we need to we could be like, well, you could get him a pair of gloves.
1:11:04You could make a salad. You know what? It's Timber Stern talking to. Call his mother. Like, it's really disgusting. The things we, like, let men get away with. Because you know what? It's hard to get a guy. Yeah. And the future of civilization depends on us dealing with this. Maybe he could eat with a glove on. No, that's what I'm saying. That's how we got here. At the end of the meal, he could take it off. Like a doctor. This is how we got here. Like, where the bar is in hell. I'm just looking for solutions. You know, I'm looking, you're looking for short term solutions because first he's licking his fingers.
1:11:35Then he's eating his earwax. Like we need to nip this issue in the butt. No, but like once he's using the glove, he will get accustomed to not licking his fingers. And then that will become habit. And then hopefully COVID strikes again and we're out of gloves. Over time we can remove the glove. I just think like training wheel. I just think you're an enabler. I think I'm a peace protector and I want. Also known as an enabler. perhaps and I want you to have your peace and I don't know how to really change a behavior like this so glove it is no glove no love well that's you tell him when he gets into bed no glove no love thank you to everybody who wrote in thank you all for listening to another amazing episode I can't wait to listen to it into two years and be like wow they're really good thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast of the Millennium Morning Show we deliver the fast-paced stories you need to know every Monday the Friday and YouTube so you're watching us on YouTube please feel free to subscribe to this video thumbs up we're also available on Spotify and Spotify and Spotify So it's about your news, your public radio podcast.
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