Trippin' with Turt: Monday, January 13th, 2025

0:00Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Monday. Hope everybody had a glorious weekend. Glorious Clardia. Clardia is feeling glorious. Are you feeling glorious? That's so good. No, but I'm feeling good. By the way, last night I peed one time in the night. Slay the house down boots. Like seriously, that's, I can't ever pee, like not pee in the night. So the fact that I peed once, like you guys, you bitches could never. And that's on being dehydrated. No, and I got a new hydro jog, a really cute one. The pink in them? Yeah, the pink in them. So I've been trying to like stay on top of my water and it's been great, but like actually the other night I peed four times.

0:40So I have to find a balance between like staying hydrated with my cute little hydro jug, but also I need to live, I need to sleep. So it's been tough. It's been a challenge. Thank you so much for asking about me. No, staying hydrated is a tough business. Last week on Monday, New Year, New Me, I drank an entire thermos before the toast. by yesterday I was first sip of coffee like first sip coffee but today's a Monday reset I'm giving the thermos the old college try so I am on my second I am on my second cup of coffee like stop it also I had heard this statistic I'm just like constantly looking for pregnancy like statistics and studies like that can allow me and encourage me make me feel good about drinking soda and so the last one I saw was like totally fine to drink soda as long as like for equal parts soda you're also having water so like yesterday I had a flushing it out yeah yesterday I had like a huge soda at lunch and I got a huge water with it and I drank both I'm so sick of it water is just sick like I miss the days where I could literally go days without drinking water like without consequence you know now it's it's not even about me anymore it's about something else so I have to do what's right and I'm just looking forward to being able to like treat my body like a shithole again you know I miss that energy it's true without the guilt you know but just also take solace in knowing like if baby were thirsty you'd be thirsty if baby were craving water you'd be craving water okay I have a question about baby drinking okay because the last time I got an ultrasound which was somewhat recently she was like doing the thing she's like oh baby's drinking I'm like oh that's so cute I'm like but I'm not drinking like how did baby drink and what the hell is baby drinking well also it's confusing because doesn't the food enter them through the umbilical cord but like their mouth is moving yeah no and like are they drinking that fluid like amniotic fluid you know I just I don't get it I think like honestly it's a call out to the stenographer like I and I've heard that too like when they're in there and their mouth is moving like oh baby's drinking but no don't they get it all through their belly button and what if baby's like you know experiencing tension in his jaw and he's just like you know grinding his teeth like there's a million things a million things maybe could be doing yeah talking yawning crying so yeah just like add it to the list of things I don't understand about this process but I'm like not actually interested enough to learn yeah but also you don't have to be drinking for baby to be drink because like the stuff is still in your belly you know what I mean like it's from previous it's from earlier and there's always something in my belly like that's one thing you can count on from me I love using that as an excuse like yeah usually when I eat I'm hungry for sure sometimes like I'm just eating you know I'm like well baby needs reserves yeah it's a great excuse it is enjoy it thank you I actually will well then you go into breastfeeding and like you're you're hungrier than ever right baby needs reserves yeah so let me tell you what I did this weekend I didn't even tell you this I have made it a mission to just become like an informed podcaster you know with award season coming up I feel like we're gonna be talking about the movies a lot and I watched two of the movies the Oscar nominations were delayed because of the fire so I don't know which are going to be nominated for best picture and stuff but I have a general idea from the globe from the globes based on based on that so I watched a Nora this weekend and I watched the substance this weekend now the one everyone's talking about is the substance and I'm going to get into that in a minute let me just briefly give you a synopsis of a Nora and it is of my personal opinion you should watch neither of them okay okay um to me and this is going to be me like yes I'm entering like sort of a more traditional conservative phase of my life okay like the film in Nora represents everything that's wrong with the entertainment industry like it was first of all a plotless film it was so over sexualized and I feel like we've had this conversation like more and more and I think that this was a really perfect example and I pointed it out to Ben and he was like calling me an arc basically and then as the movie progressed he was like no wait you're right and then we were watching The Substance which wasn't really sexual but it had a lot of nudity and he was like pointing things out I'm like yes very good it was tits ass tits ass tits ass ass tits the word motherfucker the word motherfucker motherfucker motherfucker my brother some more tits ass sex prostitution like it was just really and like to what end I don't know it wasn't to service the plot I couldn't like the movie really was about nothing um and there were parts of it that I liked there were parts of it I really did not like but all I kept thinking about was the girl who plays Anora.

5:02She's like this new up-and-coming actress. She's super young. She's naked almost the entire movie. She is an exotic dancer turned prostitute turned wife. And all she keeps talking about in her interviews is how there wasn't an intimacy coordinator on set. I'm like, you're fucking kidding me. Like, it really makes, and she keeps talking about how great it was, you know? Like, vibes were high. She wasn't complaining. She was saying, like, so much trust with the director. Working with people like that. Like, working with great people. And I was like, okay, that's weird. But I wonder what the scenes were.

5:29And there were a lot of scenes. I don't know if anytime someone's naked, is there an intimacy coordinator? Is it only sex scenes? But she works at a strip club, so there's like a million scenes of her stripping. And then she's prostituting, so there's a million scenes of her prostituting. It was so crazy. And all I kept thinking about was this new hot young actress books this great movie, and there's no intimacy coordinator. I had such a pit for her the entire movie. Now, the movie had redeeming qualities, mostly Igor and that final scene. What does it mean? I don't know. Um, but all in all, like don't waste your time and certainly don't watch it with like an in-law or a parent.

6:06You can't watch anything these days with an in-law or a parent or like a sibling. Yeah. It was really crazy. Um, I will say one thing I did like about it is the particular part of New York that they shot in. I thought they did it beautifully. Like I feel like it's, you know, one of the outer boroughs that doesn't get much love and it's like a very small subculture. It's very Russian. Which borough? I thought me and Ben were arguing whether it was Brooklyn or Queens because they spent time in Coney Island. But it's like these big mansions on the water and everyone's Russian. And that's like very Bukharian, very like Jamaica.

6:38We weren't exactly sure which borough it was, but it was an outer borough of New York and it was highlighting all the spots. And I thought it was like, yes, where was filming in Manhattan? Give the outer boroughs a moment. So I thought it actually was beautiful. Like I thought it did good work for the borough. Other than that, I'm really limited in my, oh, we giggled. Oh, the guy who played Vanya, like he was funny. But that was really it. Don't waste your time. now we need to talk about the substance because everyone's talking about the substance and after watching the Golden Globes, that was the one that I was like most pulled to watch.

7:06One, because Demi won the award. Two, I'm like having this renaissance with Margaret Qualley. I'm thinking like, I just like love her. She's fab. She's fab. And I don't really watch a lot of her work except I saw Made and I loved it. I know her, you know, work as a pop culture figure, but not much more than that. And the premise of the movie I knew was good. It's just about like, it's about youth and Hollywood and that's really all I knew. Let me tell you, this movie was fucking crazy. Now, I wouldn't say that I loved it, but I would say it was an excellent film. Like, I can't say that I loved it.

7:40Do you know what I mean? But it made you like have strong feelings. Me and Ben were, we were feeling, Ben could not get over the movie. Afterwards, he was like, couldn't go to bed. Like, we had to watch Curb for two hours. He was like, I'm really feeling on the list. It was disturbing. It was very disturbing. So the premise of the film is Demi Moore is this like aging Hollywood starlet. she was like this movie star and then she started a fitness empire I think it's supposed to be set in the 80s because she does like all these cute like step aerobics videos and Dennis Quaid who's like the head of the network who was hysterical by the way like he was actually so good he fires her because you know he's like a Harvey Weinstein like you're old and ugly and he wants to find like a hot new thing and so Demi Moore is like depressed and she finds out about this thing called the substance which is essentially what what you would think it's like an injection and at first I thought they were making a statement on Ozempic in the film and I was like ready to tear it apart but it had not like I was thinking this injectable drug that's taking over Hollywood it had nothing to do with Ozempic.

8:32It's like a fountain of youth. Yeah so basically how it works is you inject yourself and like your body like collapses and the film is extremely graphic in terms of like gory blood needles so if that icks you out like I would highly suggest staying away from it. So Demi Moore basically like collapses her body like just chills in her bathroom like on the floor unconscious for seven days and out of her is like birthed Margaret Qualley, this younger version of herself. And Margaret Qualley gets seven days and then she has to inject herself back and Demi has to go seven days. And you have, you're like the same person in your brain, but you have to exist as one for seven days and one for seven days.

9:08And, but the world sees you as two different people. So Margaret Qualley, like she gets up and she goes to audition for the new role of Demi Moore. She gets it. She becomes this huge starlet and it isn't after long before she doesn't want to give up the seven days. She doesn't want to go back to being Demi Moore. Like, uh, So she starts, you know, staying a little bit longer, which you're not supposed to do because what one giveth, one taketh away. So with each like time she steals from Demi Moore, when Demi Moore comes back, she's much older. Like her finger turns like purple, like an old lady.

9:38And then one time Margaret Qualley was going nuts. She came back half of Demi, like her right side of her body was like ancient and then her left side. So she gets progressively crazier and crazier looking. Margaret Qualley don't give a fuck. And the two girls, Demi and Margaret, even though they share a brain they like hate each other and the whole point that they say with the substance you are one you are one you are one they were not acting as one you know so I won't spoil the ending the ending is crazy it's not like there's no resolution and it's it's really like a sort of campy almost satirical like horror film and it's like silly but it was very good it made you think a lot because there's a point where Demi Moore is so old looking she has and like then she starts to look like a mongrel because like margaret qualey's stealing so much so she has like a boob coming out of the side of like she looks crazy but she's looking at this photo of herself when she was like you know 55 when she had just gotten fired and she loves the way that she looks and she would do anything to look like that again so it really is like this reminder of like how you hate how you how you look now right and then in 50 years you're gonna be wishing you looked like the way you did now so it made you think it made me laugh the girls were great demi 1000 deserve to win like what she did in that movie was fucking crazy it is the craziest movie i've ever seen okay and i wouldn't say i loved it i enjoyed every minute i was really uncomfortable like it's nobody's favorite movie but movies that's what films are supposed to make you feel uncomfortable question things make you think but i thought so not all the time we don't need to be uncomfortable all the time there can be like one movie in the nominations that's like that are nice crazy movie these days it's like oh that's the movie that you know the normie happy people saw yeah no let me tell you it's worth the hype like it's really it was wild it was truly i don't know how long the movie was but like it never ended like are you gonna watch more oscar movies i am so then last night we started to watch the one with ralph fiends about the pope dying and like after a few minutes it was just extremely clear like that was not gonna work like Like, it was just, we tried.

11:39Like, we girlbossed a little too close to the sun. A lot of them aren't out yet. Why not the Adrian Brody one? It's not out yet. Also, the Adrian Brody one is three and a half hours. But, Turdy, you're committed. And also, that's the one that looks very good. Well, that one's still in theaters. So, maybe I'd go to the theater and see that. I think that's harder to go to the theaters for three hours. I think there's an intermission. I'm dying to go to the theater. I need some, like, popcorn. There's an intermission. So, maybe it is for you. I just want to be, like, when I'm, like, doling out all the Oscars, like, critiques and stuff.

12:07Like I want to be well informed and I will not be watching Amelia Perez. Oh my gosh. The clips that I've seen of Amelia Perez. I want to come for sex change. It's like, I need a penis. Penis to vagina, vagina to penis. Like I honestly, I still don't really even know what the movie is about, but now I'm understanding it's about this like drug warlord, like cartel leader who wants to transition. I don't know if he wants to transition in an earnest way or because he wants to go into hiding. I think the transition is earnest oh but then it also the vibe I'm getting it's like that that should absolve him from his crimes from his his her crimes I don't know his crimes they are anymore oh yeah no I'm not sure on the pronouns because I haven't seen the film and I'm not going to um because it looks like crazy crazy stupid or the clip of Selena Gomez I can't even repeat what she said like my jaw hit the floor yeah the clips that are coming out like seriously make it look like satire and i can't it's so crazy when people put it in perspective i never expected wicked to win anything major but when people are saying this one best musical over wicked is absurd oh yeah when you think about it that way it's a musical yeah about a sex changing cartel leader no so the brutalist and then the um kieran culkin one you know he won the golden globe jesse jesse eisenberg so essentially i i know now i know what it's about they i almost watch it ben was like not compelled at all which I thought was weird because it's like kind of him they're like these cousins who are like so different whatever but their grandma dies and their grandma I think is a holocaust survivor or like it's whatever she's from Poland so as like a tribute to like learn more about her they go to Poland and they take this journey um to like learn more about one another and then you know kind of beautiful they like learn about the grandma but they end up learning about themselves you know that seems like one of the more innocuous films it's just like yes and it was also 90 minutes so i'll probably watch that one it's called i don't know real something real inconvenience like real friends real pain real pain a real pain yeah you're right you're right um i just i i know like there are bigger things coming on in the world so like the oscars did delay but if they could just give me a list of movies i need to watch like i'm just guessing here no golden globes is a good place to start and also like watch also the things that do look good to you i'm sure amelia prez will be all over the oscars don't watch that i don't know if it'll be all over the oscars honestly but it won it it got this golden globe stamp of approval yeah but that's the golden globes i'm just saying also pick with your heart because yeah i do really want to watch the brutalist but joe alwyn is in it and i've actually never watched anything with joe alwyn in it i started that show that he was in on hulu and it was really bad so i didn't i don't even know if i got to a scene like that he was in um and i have seen joe alwyn i feel weird I'm sure you know.

14:55I feel weird watching him. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but he's such an actor that he really should just like become the person that he's playing. He's really an extra. He's like a classic actor where it's like you don't know a lot about this person. He's just like doing his job. But you know more about him. You said I've seen Joe Alwyn, you know. Mary Queen of Scots. I feel like I always talk. I feel like I talk about it like too much every time he comes up. You don't talk about it too much. I just want to be clear because I have literally no idea what you're talking about. But maybe that's a reflection on me and not you.

15:25I didn't yeah no but I feel like you and him would cross paths a lot he does like a lot of period pieces British period pieces speaking of I started the Empress last night season two I was saving it I'm just kind of having a hard time getting into it because now that I know so much about Cece I read two books on her like this show is fiction you girl boss too close to son the show is fiction he didn't have the crazy brother that was trying to overthrow the throne like it's all irrelevant yeah and I'm just being like what is this fake show that I'm watching and also something that's really bothering me is I'm watching it dubbed with subtitles and the dubbing is different does not match the subtitles I'm watching two different scripts the concept of this like the sentence is the same but the way they word it is different but I also want to say the concept of the sentence is the same but it's one sort of those translations that could be a huge difference it's certain sentences like there's major differences in the translation I'm having a hard time my brain is working too hard yeah it was pissing me off I want to turn off the subtitles but I'm also eating and I'm crunching and I can't hear what they're saying yeah the crunch like adds a whole other layer and I can't lip read because they're saying something else so my brain is working really hard and and for what it's not even true for what it's not even true I think I'd rather read a book okay well it was really good so if you can like suspend display for 45 seconds no I yeah but I've only I'm only in the second episode and I started it this weekend like that's not great but I'm also lame that it's so different from what actually happened if they had taken more of an approach like the crown I think that would have no and it's better it's the sort of history that is stranger than fiction you know you don't have to add things to it it's a crazy story she's like one of the most known historical female figures like you don't have to dig deep pull from your imagination yeah that's annoying um I also wanted to say we're like t-minus like two weeks from Turney moving into her new studio I was there this morning actually just checking on things there's a lot of I don't want to want to I don't want to start filming there until like everything's done and I want to get like my wallpaper up like I want to get all my boxes unpacked.

17:35So I'm going to sit here, sit tight until that's done. So just, I don't know if this means anything to anybody but me, but very exciting. We've got Wi-Fi going in this week. It's going to be huge. It is very exciting. As you know, like Turdy doesn't embrace change. She doesn't. She doesn't like to move. She doesn't like to call the movers. So I feel like this is a big step, like for the growth of Turdy. And people aren't understanding that because you think it's like, oh, she's just moving studios. It's so much more than that. I want to talk about some accusations I saw about myself on the internet this weekend.

18:05okay um people are saying that my new laugh is fake and forced and I'm like literally putting on this new laugh now it's obviously hurtful to see because I've actually spoken and and my truth is that I love my new laugh so much it's like one of the great parts of pregnancy and let me tell you there aren't a lot so I've just sort of been clinging to it as like this fun new thing and every time I laugh it just reminds me of this beautiful thing that's happening to me this metamorphosis so to see accusations of fraud I'm not shocked you know but it's hurtful that is hurtful especially because you've been so vulnerable in opening up about it and the changes you're experiencing I have to make a confession of my own you don't hear it I haven't noticed your new laugh like it hasn't struck me at all which also I think goes to prove the authenticity of it um and I don't know I feel like I have reached a level of celebrity especially because I saw all these rumors on TikTok um and I think that just in time for the app to be banned like I'm finally like rumors are finally being started about me like this is what I've wanted my whole life like we were going viral people are making hilarious sounds with your snow song like we're just kind of the talk of the town no and there's like a special tier of celebrity I know if you know Michaela from TikTok of course I do you're my sister Kim Kardashian she has this like crazy Boston accent and like there have been rumors for years that her accent is put on and completely fake like all so they found these old like videos of her in college where she was like making she was like a college like tour guide or whatever so she's like on this video of her college being like let's go check out the library and she's just talking completely normal then there are people who have come forward from her hometown being like you know we don't talk like that uh that's like four hours away from us if you if you talk like that so there's been like a lot of speculation speculation about her voice for years and she has maintained like those videos she was so embarrassed of her accent she's like put on a normal voice but now she don't give a fuck um and i'm at that tier now people think i'm faking my laugh oh okay yeah just me and michaela with 15 million followers like please leave us alone always coming for powerful women so true ain't that the truth so true um yeah and it's also like t-minus four no what's today the 13th, seven days, one week until potential the media landscape changes forever.

20:19And TikTok is gone over. I think on Friday, they were speaking before the Supreme court, the talk, they made their case. I don't know if it, you know, moved the needle at all. I don't think the Supreme court is going to intervene. And we kind of have this weird time period where their time is up on January 19th, which is the day before inauguration. Right. So like to sit Citral Z on January 20th. I don't know. And I can't imagine that like the very first thing Trump's going to do is TikTok. Like there's a lot of important things going on in the world. Like, I don't know if that takes the kick.

20:52Maybe it's like first week material, not first day. Or maybe first 100 days is sorting it out. The 100 days are very important. Right. So I think we just got to hang tight, but I do feel, and I've got a little bit more clarity because while the app will not disappear from your phone, it will disappear from the app store, which means your app can't update. So apps, you know, you probably don't even realize, but they update your Instagram almost every day, bugs. And if an app never updates, it will eventually stop working because bugs can't be fixed, things can't be updated. So while maybe not on the 19th per se will your TikTok stop working, over time it will.

21:29Okay, well, I'm glad to know that I've curated a really personalized Reels algorithm over on Instagram all this time. And perhaps it will serve me. however I don't think I think this will get sorted out like I don't think it's the end of TikTok really because you would think I'd be happier like good all of my defiance was paid off but I just don't I'm not getting that feeling but maybe it's because it's like the boy who cried wolf I've felt that we've been here before yeah but we've never been this close that's what we said last time no last time there was like a date but it wasn't within the next seven days like we're here now yeah it's so I'm just than it's ever been I'm writing down our countdowns too because okay I have my book of lists Meghan Markle's new show which has been delayed which we will discuss um and that countdown just got a bit longer but like yeah I just want to keep our eye on the on the various my new studio yep it's on here and tick tock okay and tick tock okay anything else coming up obviously like you know birth but we're so Molly May's show that's my other countdown right of course Molly May show should be any day now should be any day well I feel like we've sufficiently wasted enough time oh you think oh oh that was a lot of time right right right shocking I didn't think my substance recap was like 15 minutes I didn't even get to myself I had a lovely weekend thanks for oh good what happened oh just like a lot I feel like I really played the weekend well because sometimes I feel like I do too much and it's not relaxing and then other times I feel like we stay home too much and like we go a little stir crazy and like time just drags on so I feel like we really mapped it out well with various errands we went to the farmer's market and like I'm kind of struggling because the market with the fart with the concept like I bought eggs from like a co-op like a local farm co-op and I haven't eaten any of them yet yeah you gotta see the farm first I went to their Instagram and their website and like they look legit and they do the whole like raw milk raw dairy they're one of those and i should be glad as someone who's you know a homesteading trad wife that i found my local farm co-op but i don't know i'm having like i'm having a hard time kind of like jumping in and being the sort of person that's like trusting these random fucking eggs off the street over the eggs at the grocery store but like that's sort of where like life has led me that's the trad payoff no there is trust involved i'm on the precipice of greatness but like i can't crack these eggs i'm just like looking at them I'm like where did they come from well I think you and Zach need to eat them first before you feed them to everyone and then see how it goes I think they're safe I'm sure they're fine I'm sure there are standards that you have to meet to be in a part of a farmer's market like I do think you need like food licensing I have to look into it because I haven't been to a farmer's market actually ever in this journey of like organic crunchiness and so I just need to say a lot of it was giving like hey i mean yeah no it's giving neighborly it's giving like if your neighbor baked you a cake you would eat it like you wouldn't think but like there have to be food standards right i don't know so i spend a lot of my weekend thinking about these just like mulling over the eggs while yeah that's it and also they're farm fresh i don't have to put them in the fridge they're just sitting on my counter like looking at yeah well it's kind of good if you know someone with a farm like personally because then there's that personal trust so i don't know if you could get them but brian has eggs in his farm i don't know if you can get them from pennsylvania no i've eaten them i would trust them you have to have a local farmer where you meet them is at the farmer's market but i'm just having like that trust is very tenuous at the moment okay what if you took like a trip to the farm that would help yeah okay maybe that's next weekend's activity that's actually a nice activity you're welcome um so without further ado it is time okay yeah without further ado i guess you don't want to hear about my sunday oh no you're right i don't what happened on sunday no no it's fine i'll save it for another day without spoiler alert clickbait and people say we don't click

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30:12Joinbuilt.com slash toast. Thank you, SlashChart. What can I say? So our first story, and it's worth mentioning before we get into the stories, that obviously the big story of the day and the week is still the fires in LA. I would have hoped that by today there would have been like more containment, but they're still raging. There's so many different threats to the various communities, including people losing their houses, looting, crime. Like it's just, it's so scary out there. Arson. More arson. Yeah. Um, it's just, it's devastating. And that's really like, I was sat this weekend on my phone, just like watching, reading about everything like seeing but also of course like how many people are helping how many people like you really see the good in people it's so true but also so much so much evil too yeah like I know that you want to focus everyone's sharing that like Mr.

31:07Rogers quote like find the helpers and like there are so many people doing so many amazing things but it also shows like the it's the best and the worst of humanity like and it's actually really crazy to see both like where you know everyone people have lost everything they're running for their lives and there are people who choose to like run towards that danger and fight and there are people who choose to run towards that danger and take advantage and steal and like it's actually so crazy yeah the like the complexities of humanity it it is very crazy so uh some of our stories is like fire related but really that's what's going on and just um we're just thinking of everyone there and hoping everyone is staying safe even then you also have to think about like the toxic air now right you can't even Even the communities that have been like contained.

31:50Or even the people who haven't had to, who don't have to evacuate yet, but are nearby. There are just so many different things to consider. And we're just thinking about, that's really where our minds are today. Yeah. However, Meghan Markle has delayed her Netflix debut of With Love, Meghan amid the LA fires. So Meghan Markle's show was supposed to come out this week. We were countdown to With Love, Meghan, but she's decided to postpone the release date of her new series as wildfires continue to devastate her hometown of LA. at the request of Megan with the full support of Netflix the release of the series which is a tribute to the beauty of Southern California has been moved from its previously announced Jan 15th premiere date to March 4th let me just write that down just update your account yeah due to the ongoing devastation called caused by the wildfires yeah I think she has to be really cautious in everything she does and I think that while I don't know if this was absolutely necessary like you know the world hasn't stopped you know there was football games on last night like I I think you know she's really cautious because she's under a lot of scrutiny more than the average person so this is the right call although I don't think it was necessary even though I guess like the show being tied to LA maybe it's like a little soon but it also I think you could argue both sides really strongly and actually don't know what the right decision is but I also think what's easier for her actually and better for her and ultimately not to think this way better for their bottom line and viewership is to postpone it because she can't promote the show right now because her and harry are like on the ground trying to help people they've opened up their home it would be tone deaf to promote the show when she is you know someone who sorry people would call it tone deaf of her to promote the show and so she can't do that she probably doesn't want to release it right now but it's also like bad business the point of a show is for people to watch it and right now like people can't right no people can watch it but she can't do everything that she wants to in support of it otherwise she would get a lot of backlash because I think actually if it is a show about the beauty of Southern California like this might actually be the right time for people to watch it to really appreciate the beauty of the state and what's being lost yeah you can make that argument but also you can make the argument that like now is not the time yeah the thing is I'm sure she weighed like the risks and the rewards and honestly I don't know a real downside of delaying it but I could see there being a lot of blowback if she didn't so I think she thinks about things more deeper and more heavily than like an average person who was launching a show I think the downside of her delaying it is like looking at it losing the momentum no just looking at it through the lens of like why are you delaying it because you can't do all the things that you would want to do for it but that doesn't mean the show can't come out yeah but she you want the show to be successful i'm sure netflix was supportive of that too like if you can't promote something that you spent a year filming and netflix putting all their money towards like they want it to do well yeah so she if the reason why netflix invests in someone like megan is because she's megan so she can't be out here like putting her name on something and going on kelly clarkson show to talk about it like what's the point yeah no it's definitely it's definitely an interesting conversation one that megan is not the only one who is a part of you were sending me some stuff we were talking about it last night how people are kind of dragging others brands influencers for carrying on business at this time so the the event in question is tripping with turt tart cosmetics did one of their just for anyone who's not chronically online um they did one of their brand chips they do them a couple of times a year.

35:27And let me tell you, they always make waves. Now, of course, the timing is beyond unfortunate for this one. But every time when they took people to Dubai, there's always a lot of blowback to Tarte for their trips. Now, they're not the only beauty brand that does trips. Most beauty brands do them, and they do them really extravagantly. I mean, Caudalie just took people to the south of France, to the Lavender Fields. They do really, there have been Korean beauty brands that take influencers to Korea and buy them Birkins. Like, really crazy. It is the upper echelon. And for some reason, there is like a special reserve of backlash and hate for Tarte Cosmetics.

36:01And I think it's because it's like a pretty accessible beauty brand. It's like not really high price. It doesn't give like luxury. It doesn't give drugstore per se, but like it's every man's sort of beauty company. Like everybody uses it. I also think it's because the influencers who they invite are everyone's favorite to go after. Like I don't even, I didn't even hear about this Caudalie South of Friends trip. Who went on it? probably influencers that are so big and fancy that they're out of your realm of like not really actually like like i saw my girl like like glamzilla she's like she's from canada she's like a swirly like everybody else like i don't know she's like like no i'm telling you a lot of brands take this they all take the same people i'm telling you like it's not that tart is bringing different people so i wonder why over the years they've gotten blowback for a lot of different things they had been criticized in the past for not having like a diverse enough group of influencers and I feel like they really acted on that.

36:54They were criticized for, I guess, like giving better rooms to people with bigger followings. We had talked about that. Like there's always drama. In the end, I do think like net net, it's really good for the brand. Like everybody's talking about these trips. This one in particular is really crazy because a lot of the girls who came are from LA. And I mean, the timing could not have been worse. They've been there now for two days. So literally in the midst of a lot of the fire drama and the only person who actually wasn't able to attend is Tana Mongeau because she was like packed and ready to go and then she had to she was then asked forced to evacuate and so she was never going to make it to the airport on time whatever she was the only one who did end up coming now it's been very interesting because a lot of the girls actually haven't posted so I was like are they not there or are they just not wanting blowback TAR Cosmetics is um posting like as normal but I mean like the girls themselves and so before they all left they had made an announcement that they were donating $250 ,000 to fire first responders, LA first responders.

37:54And then that they were also making a donation in the names of each of the girls,$10 ,000 each in the name of, you know, Brianna Chicken Fry to various causes. I think they get to maybe choose their cause. And then I know some of the girls like Remy is matching that$10 ,000. So there's a huge philanthropic effort being made here. The trip itself is, all of their trips are extravagant. This might be the most extravagant, perhaps maybe on the same level as their last trip to Dubai, which caused quite a stir. They cause a stir just because people are like, well, you should be having these trips for your customers, like not for influencers.

38:26And it's like, okay, well, that's maybe a conversation you want to have about like marketing in general and all beauty companies. But these conversations, like they always get taken out on Tarte. Like I actually feel bad. But this trip in particular, it's on Necker Island, which is Richard Branson's private island in the British Virgin Islands. You know, you can rent it. Paris Hilton famously had her honeymoon there. It's like 150 grand a night. You get the whole island. There's an animal conservatory. There's a, it's like the craziest place. And so it's really extravagant. And it had started about two days ago and they had, you know, made all the statements before taking off being like, we know that we're not canceling.

39:02And there has been like a huge call on social media for them to have canceled and how out of touch this is and how tone deaf it is. And I actually don't agree. I think that one, they're doing really everything they can. So even like a little above and beyond, um they're having like beach they're like I saw them like all dancing on the beach shoot like doing contests for the firefighters they're doing contests like they did musical chairs and the winner got to donate ten thousand dollars to another charity like they're really philanthropic focused and I don't know what more they could be doing like people are just mad that they didn't cancel it and you know Necker Island I think it takes like a year and a half to get approved to stay there like there are hoops you have to jump through I'm sure they spent minimum one million on this trip.

39:43That was before they even, you know, set foot on the island, before they brought a concealer to the islands. Like, so I don't know why, like the, and I don't see any sort of energy or movement to have the same sort of conversation about other things that happened this weekend. It's like, for some reason, like it has fallen on this female founded company. It's literally, she's a literally a billionaire maureen and people just like she's also very front-facing so she takes a lot of the heat on behalf of the brand she's like this woman who started tart 25 years ago she owns the company outright by herself like what she's done is so impressive like she owns the company she's able to do this and for some reason like this whole conversation about like what should be posted on social media is being taken out on her yeah that's it's so and i actually just don't agree with it like i think that two things can be true at once like you can acknowledge it's not like they're pretending this isn't going on that's something i would agree with like that's really problematic like pretending like they've actually probably done more charity and give gave away more money like in order to offset what they were about to do than if they just canceled the whole thing yeah totally you know if they had just canceled the whole thing that's like almost 500 grand that didn't get donated to first responders right I actually I simply don't agree and I think that you're right I think a lot of the times like you know backlash comes for the creators themselves like you know I feel like Brianna Chicken Fries having a moment where everything she does everybody's like well that sucks and so it's like well beyond a chicken fries there like so it's kind of this amalgamation of like women who hate other women it's like this is like a women's issue by the way no man yeah if i said to ben do you know what tripping with tart is he would say no like this is a woman's issue they're all watching the football that's still on right everyone's promoting and talking about they had a moment of silence i saw at one of the games so nice did you think that the houston texans should have let the chargers win no i didn't even think that's funny when they started playing i was like oh la will win because like they need this that's actually so funny i didn't i didn't like put together that that an la team was playing it was an la team but then i'm like it's a playoff so like they can't just give it all away they've worked all year for this no i mean think about like because i was thinking about this yesterday i was watching the bills game and they said damar hamlin and i was like oh my god like literally somebody died on the field and they continued to play like i don't know but i And by the way, there was like no backlash to that.

42:01Like, so that's what I'm saying. Like, this is a woman's issue. No, but I think it's also because like football, they don't give them a lot of leeway in terms of like, if people were calling for that, they, you know, maybe it's because they're a bigger organization. They don't give in to backlash. Yeah. They kind of, actually, they do a little bit, but I don't know, it's so much more immediate with social media. You can like reach one person, they will see it. And I just feel like football, it's like, oh, they just keep passing the ball technically. and also because like men don't come after each other like women no they don't and i've seen like some like actually some of the worst takes i've ever seen about anything in regards to this issue like people saying it would have been so much better if tart had like their influencer trip in la and put all the girls to work like you know volunteering like yeah and then you guys and then you guys would be like get these fucking influencers out of here and then you would be like well you'll only volunteer and take a picture it's not and then take a picture of it to promote it and you literally can't win you can't win I don't think it should have been delayed it's not like it's not like COVID remember when like the NBA shut down remember when if everything was shutting down and then Tarte was still over here tripping with Tarte okay I hear you everybody's like everyone's going to work everybody else is working except the influencers shouldn't and Tarte shouldn't do their trip it's so I don't agree with it at all no I don't agree with it either and I just...