Trout and BSC Host The Toast: Friday, November 7th, 2025

21:29Do you know what I mean? But are we talking about it because it sounds disgusting? Yes. Oh, okay. Well, because here's another thing I want to add to the marketing point, which is, and we are marketers. So, like, we can have a marketing discussion. We can. We can. But Kraft tapped apple pie expert Jason Biggs for the surprising flavor as the apple pie alum starred in a 15-second spot about the Kraft's new flavor. What do you mean apple pie Jason Biggs? He's an actor. I've never heard that he has any. He was in American Pie then. Great. Great. But that doesn't make him an apple pie connoisseur.

21:58Well, the journalistic integrity of this article, I won't share where it's from, is obviously part of the problem in perpetuating this lie about Jason Vicks. I don't even I don't even understand. This makes it even worse. This makes the whole thing even worse. That said, I'm trying to think of like what would have been. It's definitely very gimmicky, but they have done a lot. Kraft has done a lot of collabs recently that like they did DJ Mustard and the Mustard. Like they some of them, I think, hit. I think others maybe not so much. It's the cheapest form of viral marketing. That's what it is.

22:27But maybe it's really been working for them. No, no. It has. That's what I'm saying. But like we're, our culture rewards these gimmicky products. Yeah. Because we're so excited to take a picture of them and try them. And then all of a sudden Kraft sees, oh, they're going to talk about it on The Toast for free. Yeah, they're going to talk about it on The Toast for free because it's viral and gimmicky. Well, I would like to say something. I think that they should send it to us. I think we should try it. Sure. I think we should give it a fair shot. Great. And then we're going to give them more free media.

22:56like this is what they want yeah no pay me honestly i'm happy for them it's a good idea it's a great idea what do you think would have been a good thanksgiving inspired mac and cheese blend like if you something more savory like if you were tasked with making a great sounding mac and cheese collab with craft what would you have done similar to what you made the other day like a butternut squash or like something maybe add a vegetable and like partner with local farmers Like, I don't know, like do something that's like give back to the community and like good for kids. And do you know what I mean?

23:27Like apple pie is like for the end of the meal and mac and cheese is for the middle of the meal. And I just don't think those two things should be brought together. I do think that a lot of people do like like sort of a savory sweet vibe during the meal. I'm like I'm like if I'm eating savory, like I want savory all together and then like sweets at the end. I can do savory and sweet. Like I really like schnitzel with Mike's hot honey. Right. That vibe is delicious. Mashed potato, not mashed potatoes, sweet potatoes with the marshmallows on top. That's like so Jewish, you know, just fantastic. Or maybe a sweet kugel.

23:58Right. I can't think of the the consistency of a Kraft mac and cheese where it's that like thick, you know, it's coming in a powder. Yeah. That can't possibly be good. Well, that's why I would say like if you added a vegetable or like a fruit powder and that powder didn't feel so radioactive. I mean, Claudia, I'm out on vegetable powder. I'm out. I can't do that. No, I can't. What, you could do the flaming orange powder? No, I can't do any of it. It's just, I'm actually, I'm turned off. I'm done. I think I'm done with them. I think I'm going to go to Walmart and get it for you. Okay. It might taste good.

24:32Maybe it tastes like nothing. It probably tastes like, just like sweet kugel, honestly. Sweet kugel. With the brown sugar and molasses. It probably doesn't taste like cheesy mac and cheese. Did they say it tastes like turkey? No. What did they say? Mac and cheese meets apple pie. How on earth would that taste like turkey? Mac and cheese meets apple pie. It probably tastes like sweet kugel. It's probably delicious. What an arc. What an arc. What an arc. A hundred percent. By the way, is Thanksgiving like your favorite day of the year? That's interesting, Liv. Thanksgiving is solid. Yeah. I think you make a really great turkey.

25:03I'm making the turkey this year. Do you know that I've already pre-purchased my turkey? It's coming from a farm in New Jersey. That is excellent work by you. Yeah. It's pasture-raised, kosher. I went all out. What I will say is that the problem with most Thanksgiving meals is that the host doesn't know how to make a great turkey. Interesting. And you do. So for far too long, I have said, I hate roast turkey. I do prefer smoked turkey. My dream Thanksgiving meal is literally two pounds of smoked turkey. Okay. Thinly sliced. By the way, I have a smoker. Should we get a turkey breast and smoke a breast?

25:37That sounds very interesting. Smoked breast. But we should do it. I think you should just get a slicer. If we can have like thinly sliced turkey. It's really about the cut. I actually think I agree. The other thing that I've always wanted to do, which I have zero plans to do this year, but to deep fry a turkey in the yard. Yeah, Hardoon does that. Does he? My friend, yeah, they put literally a big-ass turkey in a fryer and they do the whole thing. It's just, I don't know, Liv. What? What don't you know? I don't know. I guess you could hold in moisture that way. That's good. Yeah, and crispy skin, even though I'm not a super skin person.

26:11You really have perfected the turkey. I wouldn't touch your recipe. You make a really moist turkey. I know that some people take issue with the word moist, but I don't know how else you would describe a moist turkey. No, it's such a compliment. Wet is worse, right? Is wet worse? No, moist and juicy. Juicy. Juicy is probably the right word. Yeah. Juicy is also kind of a weird word. They all can be weird if you have a sick, perverted mind. It's really the way your mouth says it, juicy. Yeah, you threw in the Jew there. You really went hard Jew in the juicy. It's not my fault. Those are the letters.

26:39Interesting. We should just start spelling Jew, J-U-I. Okay, that's your Jewy. We're so French, like Joey. Like Joey. We got another story? Yeah, we got another story. Ready? What do we think? Our second story is, this one is so for you. Tell me. When I saw it, I was like, we have to talk about this just because I'm not even going to speak. I just want to hear what you have to say. Charles Barkley admits he burned all of his underwear about 30 years ago and is always going commando. I realized that underwear was not a necessity, the NBA legend admitted on Monday Night Football on November 3rd.

27:09Wow, November 3rd was a big day. Monday Night Football? He does Monday Night Football now? Okay, well, we'll get into the details because it says that Charles Barkley hung up his jersey in 2000, but read another article of clothing years sooner. You guys, like, seriously, this publication needs just like Chachi B.T. It's obviously The Post, right? No. Who is it? People Magazine. Oh, all right, whatever. The basketball analyst and commentator, 62. Did you know he was 62? No, he looks great for 62. Yeah, he does. sidestepped football talk amid the Arizona Cardinals late 17 point lead over the Dallas Cowboys.

27:44So sad during Monday Night Football to answer a hard hitting question posed by Peyton Manning during the broadcast. Is it true you burned all of your underwear almost 20 years ago and haven't worn any since? Who told Peyton Manning to ask him that? We have so much to discuss. The two time Super Bowl winner asked the NBA Hall of Famer on Manning cast opposite his brother Eli Manning on November 3rd. Without hesitation, Barkley answered the football brothers directly, even corrected them on their timeline, sharing context behind his decision and whether there was truth behind the lore. Yeah, I realize that underwear was not a necessity, replied the 11-time NBA All-Star.

28:13It was a big fire, too, Peyton. I'm always going commando. I burned all my underwear about 30 years ago. And like I said, it was a big fire. Oh, my. Barkley added, so I'm always going commando for the rest of my life. The longtime New York Giants star then surprised the retired NBA star with a very fitting present. Wow, it's like the biggest pair of undies. oh my god chuck i actually got you a gift to commemorate you being on our first ever manning cast eli told barkley wait we have to put the picture of these ginormous undies with the manning brothers faces on them oh my god oh my god we're gonna get the picture up here because holy fucking shit he said i was planning to mail it to you but i'm sorry i didn't know the story about you wearing underwear before having made these oh please totally did anyways what the fuck yeah okay so uh there's so there's so many things here first of all uh and this is no shade i love charles barkley yeah he's hysterical okay he only recently started doing those row ads because he started to lose like a ton of weight from glps yeah he's been a large man and i can say that as like a morbidly obese man like 99 of my life right even like now at like one of my skinniest i'm still like technically my bmi is way too high yeah but bmi is like not real whatever You know, I don't believe in it.

29:30You can't be a fat man and not wear underwear. I don't think you can be a human being and not wear underwear. Period. But it's different. If you're a skinny person, you're eating really clean, there's a solid chance that you're not shitting your pants during the day. When you're a fat person at least once a year, you are going to let some shit out. Okay, forget about the run. You're going to shart. No, you're going to shart into your jeans. What about just existing, literally, your legs and your pants, and those are your private parts, you should keep them sacred. It's just wrong. It's super uncomfortable.

29:57anybody that wears first of all there are different articles of clothing that could work commando and not commando I certainly hope he was never wearing jeans okay you can't never wearing underwear period no but I'm course he's not wearing underwear with cheap I hope that he doesn't wear jeans I mean at all at some point over the last 20 plus years he has worn a pair of jeans now I haven't wearing jeans with no underwear imagine wearing no wonder I'm saying as imagine wearing no underwear as a man you go to the urinal and you zip down your zipper for the jeans, okay? I don't want to talk about the urinal.

30:26And then you pee. And then you pee. My dad loves to tell a story about how when he was eight years old, he went to the urinal and his uncle Bumi helped him pull back up his zipper and clipped his nuts right in the zipper. And ever since, he's told me, beware of the zipper. Charles Barkley, when he was at that urinal, Olivia, I promise you, he clipped his nuts. I do not think that your dad gave us permission for you to tell that story. He did. He did. He did. He did. Oh, my God. Uncle Bummy lives on. Lives on forever. How do you spell Bummy? B-U-M-M-Y. Okay. Maybe I-E. I actually don't know his real name.

31:03Uncle Bummy. We need to find out his real name. That is some name. Yes. Another fun fact, which I've told all these stories on Good Guys. Another fun fact about Bruce. My grandfather was breastfed till he was eight. You know that, Liv? You know that, Liv? Breastfed till he was eight. Great as a dork. And how long did he live? He lived to 93. 93. Maybe there's a correlation. 100%. I mean, for sure. Yeah. No, that's pretty wild. Was there a reason? Was he like the oldest and then all these other kids came and like they just like kept needing to all be breastfed or? No, I think that like that's an excellent question.

31:38I haven't dug deep. I always just heard that story and I was like, that's fucking disgusting, honestly. Like that was what I heard. It was just like also a different time. Like I think those things were way more normalized. Now when you hear it today, it's like that's weird. But like, is it? I don't know if it's weird. Yeah. I think it's a little bit weird having an eight year old with teeth walk up to a breast and take it. You know, like that's like a little strange. Right. But what about in the comfort of your own home where you're like not thinking about and this is just the way that the child's being fed?

32:02I guess so. It's much cheaper. My God, the amount of money you save on groceries. Not really. Why? If they're only being breastfed? They're not only being breastfed. Yeah, that's true. You're right. You're right. It's supplemental. It's like, OK, what? You're saving like on a carton of milk every other week? It's supplemental. you're right you're right you're right back to Charles Barkley yeah so Charles Charles Barkley commando uh yeah it's do you think he says some of these things just for like like somebody put him up to this with the whole undies like gift you whatnot so funny like he doesn't mind being the butt of the joke yeah and like yes I absolutely think that he told somebody this story he was in on the story right he is amazing he's lost so much weight with Roe I don't know if you've seen that.

32:48No, I haven't seen it. He's like the face of Roe. He's the face of Roe. No, Serena Williams says, but maybe he's the male face. She's a face. Yeah, he's a face. Yeah, yeah. Understood. He is killing it. He's lost a ton of weight. GLPs are killing it for him. Yeah. I mean, I love a GLP. Yeah, don't we all? Absolutely fantastic. But he looks great. And yeah, you know, I don't know when he started doing football. He's an NBA player. I think maybe he was just a guest on the Manning Brothers show. Yeah. Which is why like he's a sports related person. Oh my God. I'm so sorry. That is so inappropriate of me.

33:21That's okay. Just say it again. What? Just say what, just like whatever. Oh, just finish my thought? Yeah. Oh yeah. I just think he was a guest on their show. Not that he was a commentator on Monday Night Football. Yes. Do you know anything about the Manning cast? Like the Amazon, whatever. Is it Amazon? Monday Night Football? I have no idea. All that I know is that they produced my new favorite show, Chad Powers. Have you seen Chad Powers? No, should I? Oh my God. You would love it. Really? What is it about? It is Mrs. Doubtfire meets football. That's what it is. Is it like comedy? Yes. It's a disgraced football player.

33:51Okay. Who was. Did you watch Stick? No. Okay. That's a disgraced golf player, Owen Wilson, on Apple TV. So if you like that, you would like that. I actually heard that I would love Stick because it has like a Ted Lasso feel. It does. And I love Ted Lasso. Yeah. It's not quite as good as Ted Lasso. I'll be honest about that. But Chad Powers, Olivia, he's a disgraced football player, and he wants to come back to football. So he literally, his dad is like a makeup artist in Hollywood and he fully euphigenia's his face. And he goes and tries out for a college football team, makes it and is like the best.

34:20I haven't made it to the end to see if he gets caught. I'm sure he does. Are you giving shit away? No, no, no. Well, yeah, spoiler alert. Sorry. But no, that's like the highest level. Fuck spoiler alerts. It's just like you're telling everybody like what's it about. I know, but like you wouldn't have watched it anyways. Why? You told me to. I would take your attention. But I'm saying like it's not my job to tell you about a show and then not tell you more about it. Like I'm talking to you about it. It's like, you know, I didn't go into the nitty gritty. Sure. So I'm just supposed to say watch Chad Powers and not tell you why.

34:46No, you said you said Uphajidaya meets disgraced or defunct football player. Yes. Maybe that's where you just left. I didn't tell you anything about stick. He's disgraced. I just said like, yeah, disgraced golfer. You didn't tell me enough about sticks for me to love it. And you then told me that it wasn't enough like Ted Lasso. And I love Ted Lasso. I need a little bit more. Tell me more about stick. Sell me. Do you actually want me to tell you? Yeah, tell me more. Not like too much. No, if you don't want to hear this, you should move on. Not too much. No, anyway, so Stick, Owen Wilson, I forget the name of his character.

35:18He was like at the prime of his life in golf and basically like has a Menti B and like totally flops. And like we meet him at this point in his life where he's like getting a divorce, selling his house. He has absolutely nothing. And he finds this kid who is a complete golf prodigy and like literally like sells his whole life to take him on the road and be his coach so that he can get back into golf. and be like that. Oh, that's nice. But it's very comedic. Yeah. It's not like. See, by the way, you told me enough to get me in. Not too much to spoil it. No, I didn't spoil it. That was a wonderful entree into the show.

35:51And it's similar to the Happy Gilmore 2. I guess he doesn't end up playing. But like Happy Gilmore 2, by the way. Yeah, I watched it, but I can't remember. Olivia, it was such a bad movie. It was so bad. The first 45 minutes were so good. Well, it was just about who was in it. Like that was the whole point of the show, you know? Or movie, I should say. The first 45 minutes were so good But yeah, I don't know how we got here. Charles Barkley. Yeah, Charles Barkley. We got into sports. Look at that. Oh, yeah, yeah. Would you consider Good Guys a sports podcast? No, not at all. Not at all. Not at all.

36:17Does Josh like sports? No, no. I mean, he's actually a big LA Kings fan. He kind of likes hockey. And his father-in-law played for the Jets for 10 years. Oh, wow. So he's like sports adjacent. Ken O 'Brien. Yeah. Didn't know that. Very famous QB. Love to know that. But yeah, no, we don't talk about sports at all. And I don't wish that we did. No, no. Whatever you're doing is really working for you. No, but I'm happy not talking about sports. When you talk about sports, you have to be more topical. You can't talk about sports from two weeks ago. Oh, Jalen Brunson had a great game. They're like, when, Ben?

36:47When? Right. So we're just like funny and light. No, you guys are hysterical. And if we release it two weeks later. Right. Well, you're doing a lot of interviews with people and like you have to coordinate schedules and whatnot. So, yes. Yeah, it has to be evergreen. Correct. We just had a great episode with John Stamos. I mean, I saw it everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he spilled the tea. He spilled the tea. you've had some great guests on Good Guys I love watching your clips I do feel like sometimes you talk about me on Good Guys you're always telling stories I definitely have I just hear things through the grapevine that's always how I find out about stuff people will be in my DMs and I'm like what happened that's literally what happens to me all the time did you hear what they said about you I'm like no and I don't want to know stop it oh you don't want to know I go run I don't want to know I don't want to know I don't want to know anything ever.

37:38Tell me nothing. That's so interesting. And just like let me exist in a world where I don't know. I live in a bubble. But you're so happy in your bubble, so it works for you. I'm so happy in my bubble. I'm so ill-informed sometimes, like especially about pop culture. But I own it, and it's great. You know what? I am incredibly informed and incredibly uninformed at the same time. Sure. You know? I think you're pretty informed. No, I know a lot of things, but like I don't like watch and sit around and like watch a lot of Bravo. I used to back in the day, so I'm like aware of like the players and whatnot.

38:05but like I don't watch like reality TV really. I'm watching like dark crime, you know? Yeah, no, you're scary. I'm scary, but you guys gave me a scary recommendation. Oh, Wayward. I think Claudia's already spoken about it, but if she hasn't spoken about it. I went looking for it last night. Are you sure it's on Netflix? Yes, Wayward. Okay, I have to go back. It is spooky. It is about a troubled teen facility where they get kidnapped in the middle of the night. I saw that. Do you know what? Can I just tell you something? That's too dark for me. It's really fucking dark. I don't like that. I actually skipped over that.

38:35I know exactly what you're talking about now. Thank you for gleaning some insights from it so I could decide whether or not it's for me. It's not. So it's for you. It's only spooky like that for like two episodes. And then it becomes this like eerie town mystery. I'm telling you. Okay. I will take your recommendation. I just like when I talk about like dark, I'm more so talking about like murder mystery whodunit vibes and like forensics and clues because like I like to investigate. Yeah. Because that's you. But I do not like really morally fucked up things, you know? How did you become such a great detective?

39:09I think I just pay really close attention to a lot of things. Like I'm very detail-oriented. No, but you're also able to find things that others aren't. Like we will literally go to Olivia and we're like, find the social security number for this security guard and she will find it. I can't find somebody. Yes, you can. No, no. You could. You don't think you could? No, not a social security. A credit card number? No, probably not. Not like personal information. Are you a hacker? No, I am like very basic. I mean, didn't you just hear my phone ring? I can barely use a device. Yeah, but that could have been like somebody calling you like to like confirm like your newest scheme.

39:42Like you're not like texting the elderly, like trying to get their social care numbers. Like I think that you could do that. I would never. Are you fucking kidding me? No, it's just like if you need to like know something about someone like crypto scam is you like give me your Bitcoin number. Do you know how many times my dad tell you? I don't even understand like Web3 blockchain crypto. Like I would not partake in it, even though people talk about it being the future, because I genuinely don't understand it. Like I cannot participate in things that I do not understand. No, miss me on it. That said, if my dad calls me one more time asking if something is real, like dad, you don't, you don't have everything is fake.

40:20You don't have a Coinbase account. Everything is fake. So how in the world could somebody be trying to send you Bitcoin? Yeah, no, you don't. You're not in it. Is he getting phished all the time? All the time. Oh my God, Olivia. Really unfortunate. Phished all the time. He'll literally get a call from the bank. At least he calls you and doesn't get a call from the bank. You never answer any numbers you don't know. No, he'll get a call from the bank. We need you to approve this wire. He's like, what wire? They're like, this wire. He's like, oh, sure. Dad, they don't call from the bank. Has he ever gotten into like a bad situation?

40:48I think one time he gave somebody like$1 ,800. That's really not good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but he's learned. He's learned his lesson and he no longer falls for it. But I'm telling you, like the amount. I'm feeling sad for him. I want to go track down that$1 ,800 for him. No, no. By the way, you think just him. Anybody over the age. I mean, of course. Anybody over the age of 50 is susceptible to this. A hundred percent. They're too trusting. And I think it was Sam Altman who said it recently. The fact that banks are still using voice to confirm wires when we live in an age of AI where I could literally take your voice as scary as it is and confirm a wire is so dumb.

41:28So dumb. So dumb. We're living in a world, which is very scary to think about, where we're so advanced and we're so behind all at once. And that's going to meet. We are so advanced and we're still behind. And it's going to be really, really scary. I agree. I totally agree. Can we really scare? I mean, in a lot of ways, things feel very backwards. Why does it still take six hours on a flight to go from one side of the country to the other? Why do I have to go to the DMV ever? Well, yeah, I try not to do that. Why can't I text someone to get a new passport? Like, why can't I take a picture at home and send?

42:00Like, it's just, there's so many archaic things going on. So many. So many. Yeah, we're so advanced, Liv. I know. We could be more advanced, I think. We could. I think that's why people are afraid of AI. But at the same time, like, AI has been around for a while. It wasn't just invented, like, last year. Do you know what I mean? AI has been around for, like, 15 years. I think more of, like, the consumer application is obviously way more of, like, you know, regular human beings using chat gbt to say like here's what's in my fridge what should i make for dinner tonight and you know having sort of that assistance but ai as a technology is not new no it's just starting to pick up steam yeah and it's really fucking scary do we have another story by the way we do we have we have three more stories actually i'm just enjoying speaking to you no me too i'm just this is our paris story okay the louvre surveillance system password was reportedly Louvre reveals you're lying you're lying on October security password was Louvre I know and by the way who would do that other than you you know your password probably Ben no no mine are like actually no I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say it in front of everyone actually it's not how I figure out people's social security numbers and credit card numbers it's because they share their fucking passwords on the totally no that was literally I literally almost gave away no I would have made them cut it out because That was really scary.

43:14That's so stupid of you. What am I? What's wrong with me? I literally like, no, it's not that. It's this. You're too trusting. No, I'm not trusting. I'm just like, I don't know what the heck that was. Okay, a Louvre employee is revealing one important security detail. On October 18th, which is my sweet Levi's birthday, these broke into the famous Paris Museum and in seven minutes stole more than 100 million in jewels. Since the investigation began, which let's be honest, the investigation is fucking nowhere, it has been uncovered that the suspects forced entry using power tools to break through the second floor window at the Galerie d 'Apollon, the Apollo Gallery, which had opened its doors to the public.

43:48President and director of the Louvre, Laurence de Kars, that's probably saying it wrong, told the French Senate that the only camera installed outside the Apollo Gallery did not capture footage of the window where the thieves broke in and exited. Sure, sure. Inside job. Who had to set up this specific, like, gallery? Liv, full inside job. 100 %! They obviously changed the password to Louvre. It wasn't Louvre, okay? It wasn't there. They definitely did a strong password like they recommend on Apple. Right. The ZW974 that you don't know. Somebody else knows. Somebody went in, changed it to Louvre, disabled the cameras.

44:22This was an inside job. fucking shit or or or or or the password was Louvre and it was just like so silly and stupid because they never thought that anybody would ever think about that let alone attempt to rob and the people that were responsible for this Apollo gallery knew exactly where the camera was set up so they circumvented the camera when they did their robbery inside job anyways at the time of the heist the password for the museum security was Louvre a museum a museum employee with knowledge of the system told ABC News on Wednesday November 5th the French outlet Liberation first reported on the password citing confidential documents.

44:55This is seriously insane. And the museum director said he was appalled. Yeah, no shit. Please, he wasn't appalled. How much money do you think he made? I mean... Inside job! Totally inside job. The fact that it is for a specific gallery... What did they steal? They stole all these Napoleonic crowns and jewels. Got it. So things that they could completely dismember and sell. Correct? Which they obviously have. The jewels stolen in the heist include a sapphire tiara, a sapphire necklace, a single sapphire earring, a matching emerald necklace and emerald earrings, a tiara, a large brooch, brooch, brooch.

45:28Brooch. A second brooch. By the way, it's like a name. It's not brooch. Of course, but when you're looking at it, B-R-O-O-C-H. Oh, brooch. Thank you. Got it, okay. Thank you. Like brooch. Known as the reliquary brooch. I almost said brooch again. The tiara was reportedly later found damaged outside the museum because they fucking dropped something on their way out. Yeah, okay. So these are smart criminals. They are. Dumb criminals steal art. Because you can't resell art without it being known that it was stolen. Have you ever seen that documentary? No. Okay. I'm fuzzy on the details, but you would love it now that we're talking about this.

46:02Do you know the name of it? I don't look it up. Basically, this very sort of like quirky couple in Arizona, they like died in their house. And when they went into their house, they had so many like crazy antiques. Like it was, I can't even describe like what the house looked like. But inside the house rolled up was one of these like very famous paintings, like a Rembrandt or something that was stolen from a museum 20 years ago that had been missing all this time. So the thought process was that this couple like were the thieves and they literally, to your point, were just keeping this like 20, 30 million dollar painting, maybe in like 100 million dollar painting.

46:39Right. Like rolled up in their house with all these other crazy artifacts that they've had. Like your point is exactly right. People steal what they steal art. There is nothing that you can do. Nothing you can do with it unless you want to hang it in your house. Right. Or sell it on like the black market or something. Somebody's probably going to find it. No, you can't even sell it on the black market. What is the black market? Like how do you get access? Through AI? No, definitely not through AI. I think the polar opposite. I think like the black market is like burner phones and like you can't trace it.

47:06Right. All cash or like wired through Switzerland. Right. Like that's the black market. Right. That's it. I don't think that a black market sale, unless somebody wanted to buy that painting, hang it in their home. But if it's reported stolen. But then if you're hanging it in your home, yeah, people are going to come to your home. your house and be like hey thief what up yeah you can't steal art you can steal tiaras you can take out the stones you can melt them down you can you melt down a stone probably not no but you can reset it reset it and sell the stone yeah yeah totally i was thinking gold right that's why it's smart to steal gold right you melt down the gold gold is quite expensive these days yeah yeah pumping gold i don't know who's pumping gold yeah somebody's pumping gold yeah today's episode of the toast is brought to you by at &t few things are better than when someone's already on it like at &t Staying connected truly matters, and that's why AT &T has connectivity that you can depend on, guaranteed, or they will proactively make it right.

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51:02so that's O-L-L-I-E dot com slash toast our code is toast T-O-A-S-T and that link and that code will get you 60 % off at your first box of Ollie go to Ollie dot com slash toast we have another story? we do pumping gold oh I love a story okay Nara and Lucky Blue Smith pose with three of their kids as their family makes their campaign debut for Skim's holiday did you see the picture? I don't know who that is yes you do she like is that beautiful model food influencer who's like, I was feeling like chewing on gum today, so I made it from scratch at home. Oh, maybe I've seen her. You've totally seen her.

51:38The name sounds familiar. She's like, my kids wanted a homemade peanut butter and jelly sandwich, so she literally took the peanuts from her garden and pushed them up. Sounds like you. Everything is so homemade. No, I strive to be like that. I'm nowhere near that. But they're models, but also she is a food influencer. Her stuff is so calming and therapeutic, but at the same time so unrealistic because she literally does make gum from scratch. Gum. Or like, it's like my kids wanted a grilled cheese, but like she's literally making the cheese. You know, like everything is from scratch. Good for her.

52:09Yeah, I think they live in Utah. Nara and Lucky Blue Smith's kids are making their campaign. Lucky Blue. He's a model. His name is Lucky Blue? His name is Lucky Blue. His real name. Well, I mean, do I know what his birth name is? Nara and Lucky Blue Smith? Yeah. We've lost the plot. Their kids actually have really cute names too. Oh, let me get there. You'll love this. Oh, my God. On Thursday, November 6th, Jackie O's birthday. The influencer and her model husband, alongside three of their four kids, were announced as the stars for Skim's new holiday campaign. And in the festive photos, the famous couple could be seen cuddling up in the kitchen wearing Skim's pajamas.

52:43In the kitchen, of course. Other snaps show three of Nara and Lucky's kids, their older daughters, Rumble Honey and Whimsy Lou. Whimsy Lou? As well as their son. Whimsy Lou Freebush? As well as their son, Slim Easy. No. These are not their names, Liv. these are their fucking making it up slim easy is his name easy wearing matching christmas how old are these kids what happens when they go to school his name is slim easy i don't know why you're like reacting as if it's not crazy slim easy is a name of a boy i just think that people can name their kids yeah if they homeschool them and they never have to interact with the real world oh everybody has to interact with the real world at some point even if you not if your name His name is Slim Easy.

53:26You're telling me he can apply for a job with the name Slim Easy Smith? I just feel like people that are named like Slim Easy, those are the people that go on to be famous. Are destined for crime. Why? Why crime? Because that's like the name of a gang member, Slim Easy. That's not, no. There's no famous person named Slim Easy. The baby that wasn't in the campaign, her name is Fonnie Golden.

53:49Listen, it's no Ruby Soffer, okay? I don't even know what to do with these names. I don't even know what to do with these names. I'm appalled. I'm surprised you weren't like so caught off guard by Rumble Honey. No, I was. But Slim Easy was real. Rumble Honey is one name? I think they're like the. Or Rumble, comma, Honey. No, not comma. No, I'm saying like is it Rumble Smith and Honey Smith or Rumble Honey Smith? It's Rumble Honey Smith. Oh, my God. It's Rumble Honey Smith. Like people have. Rumble Honey Smith. People have known this? Slim Easy Smith. People have known this? Yes. Got it. How gorgeous they are.

54:19I'm probably just late. I'm probably just late to be outrage. You probably just didn't know their kids' names. It's not outrage. It's creativity. Olivia. no, like this is, this is not right. It's just, you, people are allowed to name their kids whatever they want. They're very creative. Okay. Lucky blue. What did you expect lucky blues kids names to be? I can't believe his name is lucky blue. His name, by the way, sorry, his name is not lucky blue. I bet you they all have real names. Okay. What's the, what do you call? I know that we call it anglicizing when you take a Jewish name and you make it a non-Jewish name.

54:51Like John Stewart was originally like John Manischewitz or something. Right. And now he's Jon Stewart. What do you call it when you just change your name in Hollywood, but you weren't Jewish? Is there a word for that? I think it's just called changing your name in Hollywood. But I do want to say that. What's Lucky Blue's real name? I just looked it up and it looks like it's Lucky Blue. On Wikipedia, there's no other real name. Of course, because they're burying it. They're smart. Lucky Blue has a real name. It's probably like Dennis or something. What is Lucky Blue's Dennis? Right? Dennis Smith.

55:19Real name. Dennis Smith is a good name. Lucky Blue's real name is Lucky Blue Smith. And he is an American model, actor, and musician who is part of the band Atomics. With his sisters Starly, Piper, America, and Daisy Clementine. Okay, so the parents started this. They like unique names. No, I'm saying Daisy, Lucky Blue's parents started this. Clementine. You know, another fun fact. Clementine is a very cute name. We love Daisy. Shannon's baby's named Daisy. That's a lovely name. I'm actually not shocked that these are their names now that I'm thinking about it. You know that my parents almost named me Blue and my sister Magenta.

55:56Right. And then they didn't. They just used those letters. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? I feel like Blue. Imagine if my name was Blue. I actually think that's very cute. I would have no career. And I feel like actually maybe you'd have a bigger career, Ben. No, I wouldn't. And maybe your sister would be like Maggie instead of Magenta. Terrible name, Maggie. Yuck. I don't like that at all. What names do you like? Normal names. Names for people that had meaning. I think we just do this in Judaism. I don't know if everybody does this. I love naming for someone special. Right. And nobody's name was Lucky Blue.

56:32Or if the name means something. Yeah. You know? I love the meaning of names, actually. Meaning of names. Yeah. Does he have blue eyes? Totally. If he does, then he changed his name. But you know all babies have blue eyes. Because they couldn't have known. That's what I'm saying. No, his eyes are incredibly blue, actually. Oh, so then he changed his name. That's him. Yep. They buried it. They buried his real name, Olivia. I mean, how do you bury somebody's real name? I mean, you go to, I forget that guy's name. Felix. He's the one, it's SEO. You can bury a name. Nobody will get that joke except me.

57:04You can bury a name. No, he's just like an SEO consultant. You can bury anything you want, okay? You can bury anything you want, including Lucky Blue's real name. You cannot fuck up your birth certificate. It is, it says. You can change your name. You can legally change your name. That's what he did. And then buried it. If his eyes were green, Olivia, and his name was Lucky Blue, I would believe that his parents at birth— Why? He could just wear contacts. That's interesting. No. No. Or he could just go by Lucky and drop the blue. Even worse. Lucky. It's a name of a dog. Lucky be a lady tonight.

57:38That's the name of a dog. Lucky. I mean, a lot of people use human names for their dogs, Theo. Yeah, by the way, an amazing name for a distinguished dead gentleman. like distinguished dead gentleman he was great distinguished right so great he was a great boy he really was rest in peace romeo though has really come around i mean the romeo was so sweet and cute no but he really like he is killing it i know but you know all like like when dogs are puppies like they're really so like rambunctious you know 100 and he just like in his formative years i mean that's no excuse for no no but i'm only i love magnolia i just feel like there's been a lot of slander about magnolia on this podcast so i just felt the need to continue it you know yeah i i will be on the opposite side uh i will i will defend magnolia i will defend her magnolia just has to stop barking but she's so lovely you know she's a lovely dog and she's margo's and they have an intimate relationship and um i think margo don't watch today's episode you absolutely should because i defended your honor that's all yeah no like so sweet your honor has been defended margo all right last story you ready by the way i'm having so much fun with you.

58:46Same, it's great. Easy. Totally. Maybe I could be a guest on Good Guys. Sure. What do we talk about? Anything you want. Anything you want. No. No, I'm kidding. We can talk about your garden and how you garden. Oh my god, totally. You're going to come see my garden today. I'm super excited. I need to see it. I need you to teach me how to garden. Oh my god, 100%. Hire a farmer. I know. But you could probably have something really cute in New York on a terrace or balcony. My mom is actually an expert gardener. I expect nothing less from her. I'm an expert gardener. I think she goes home deep above the powder, puts it in soil and waters it.

59:17That said, when I go over. Right, but you have to keep it alive. She keeps it alive. Yeah. And when I go over, she's like, Ben, would you like some fresh cherry tomato? You would love it also because even tonight you'll see that I have my herb box, right? So if you just needed some parsley, we know you love parsley or some dill. That's lovely. So fresh. You don't have to run to the store if you forgot something. That's absolutely lovely. We literally ate a papaya from my papaya tree that I planted in February two nights ago. How was it? so sweet and delicious. That's so fun. Yeah, so fun. Levi literally ate the entire papaya and it was the size of your head.

59:50Living off the land is really special. It's so wonderful. It's really special. It really is. I totally agree. Okay, last story, which is I'm seriously obsessed with this. Mom, mom, man goes viral after ordering 11 pounds of French butter for wife's push present. I saw this. Wow. After welcoming their son, James, Michael Vitale knew he wanted to gift his wife, Madison, a push present she'd never forgot. The 35-year-old Hoboken, New Jersey dad spent some time debating what to get her thinking about the things she loves, and then it hit him. French butter. I've always been obsessed with butter, specifically French butter, and knew I'd enjoy it, Madison tells people exclusively.

1:00:26After our honeymoon in France last year, where we ate a ton of bread and butter and jamon, hambon burret sandwiches, like Joey Camasta. Hamon, ham. Like Joey Camasta. He knew I'd appreciate it. I've also gotten into making sourdough over the past year. Yeah, you go, girl. So we always have fresh bread at home. He went all out ordering 11 pounds, which is five kilos of butter from straight from Normandy. And it cost only two hundred and seventy three dollars and fifty six cents, plus about fifty dollars for other sandwich ingredients. Amazing gift. The only thing I have to say about this is that I also like hope you got like another gift on the side.

1:01:01Do you know what I mean? What are you going to do with 11 pounds of butter? Well, first and foremost, Madison from Sister Snacking. Oh, yeah. Sister Snacking. Friends. And I'm pretty sure that they're fans of the toast. They're going to be excited that we're doing this. love love love love love um and all that i have to say is what do you do with 11 pounds of butter do you freeze it you invite ben over you know you invite joe come ask ben goes through a little butter actually ben makes his own butter like butter lasts a good amount of time in the fridge i don't have you ever no but i would like to this is the easiest it is really easy i should unbelievable experience yeah you buy heavy whipping cream and you fucking turn it on i know in your i know you know we're really more of a cream cheese family than we are a butter family which is the only reason why I haven't, but I think it's amazing.

1:01:43You make your own butter. You put in your herbs. You make an herb butter from your garden live. Oh, this is fantastic stuff. Fantastic. And you put it on your fresh sourdough bread. I went to LA and I forgot about my sourdough starter. It's sitting in the fridge. Do you think it's still good? 100%. It will be good in the fridge for years. So it's still a lot. 100%. Maybe like when you take it out, you just maybe have to feed it twice before you use it. It needs to come back to life a little bit, but leaving it in the fridge is totally normal and fine. Yeah, look, I went really, really hard. I loved your sourdough journey, by the way.

1:02:10I went really hard into it. I loved it. It's a journey that I'm realizing one can only do when they're settled. Interesting. Yes, I agree with that. If you are moving, which like we went from the Hamptons to L.A. to Florida. Right. You're on the move. We're on the move. Yeah, I agree with that. And you need to be in one place really settled to get into a routine of making bread. Yes, 100%. Because when you make bread, you're going to want to make bread every day. Right. And making bread every day requires – It's also – it's about the timing. Like you sort of have to be like, not like necessarily sedentary in a place, but like it sort of has to like work with your schedule.

1:02:43Pretty sedentary. I mean, it takes the whole day. Yeah, it does. You get, and the more you do it, the sort of like sort of corner cutting you learn where you learn how to like maneuver. Do you really have to go back every hour and stretch and fold four times? I don't always, you know, like shit happens and guess what? It turns out totally fine. But you do need to let it rise. You do. Like that is a non-negotiable. You know what I've been doing actually? I did this last night. Right before I go to sleep at like 11 PM, I mix my dough. And instead of like waiting and doing stretch and folds, I actually mix it in the mixer for like five minutes.

1:03:13So it builds up the gluten. Interesting. And then I leave it on the counter until I'm up the next morning, 7, 8 o 'clock. And I put it right in the fridge. Got it. And then I bake it. So you let it rise eight hours overnight. Overnight. That's nice. So like it's really not that time consuming, you know? No, that's a really smart way to do it. And I mix the – Make it at night. Rise during the – while you sleep. Yep. Wake up. Put it in the fridge until it's ready to bake. You could just bake it straight. You could, but I find it's much better when you bake from cold sometimes, especially when it's been sitting out like that.

1:03:43Yeah. Because one, it's easier to score. And two, it's sort of like, I noticed with sourdough, like what it needs to do is like, it sort of needs to go through different journeys. Sure. You know, you can't just be like, and I've cooked the same days or baked the same day sourdough and it's turned out great. But I have like different methods. Like if I'm doing the overnight, I wouldn't do the same day. I would put in the fridge for a little and then bake it. I would bake it even like three hours later, you know, like not, it doesn't have to be like a three day ordeal, but like you learn the biggest thing is also like what works for you in the temperature of your own home with your thing.

1:04:12So like, for example, Claudia had gotten me this amazing KitchenAid stand mixer. And that's what I use to mix my bread. My bowl is metal and it makes my dough so cold. And I live in Florida where it's hot outside. So like my situation is very different than somebody like you, where maybe you don't have a metal bowl and you live in New York and the temperature is like 20 degrees. Do you know what I mean? Like everything, or maybe you keep your house a little everything is so fluid so that's why everybody's you you can obviously take inspiration from a lot of different sourdough folks but at the same time your sourdough journey is seriously going to be unique to you and the environment in which you live it will it will absolutely yes well said what's your favorite thing to cook these days oh what a great question um honestly like i just i just love dinner time like i just love making dinner for the family Like it's seriously my favorite.

1:05:00I love that. Like we, we grew up this way and it's like such an important part of our family, my family, like just dinner together every night. No, like, and as many people at the table as possible. So like, I just love like, and my kids see like the heart and soul that I pour into the meal. Like I just love dinner. Yeah, I do too. Dinner is everything. And I love cooking for people. I think we share that. Like it's really, it's like people come in and they're like, can I help? I'm like, get the fuck out of the kitchen. No, totally. Like, I don't want your help. A hundred percent. I appreciate, appreciate the offer.

1:05:29Especially when you know what you're cooking and you have a certain thing in mind. It's like, then just get out and let me do my thing. It's also just like, at least for me, I really do take such attention to detail when it comes to everything. Like even my salads, every single ingredient is chopped the exact same size. Yeah. I like when my lettuce is stringy as opposed to thick. Yeah. There's just like specifics in the way that I cook. Yeah. And I want to eat what I cook. Yeah, 100%. That's why everybody's always like, oh, isn't it a lot cooking? because during the summer, I'm literally the private chef for the house.

1:05:59Yeah, 100%. I cook dinner for eight every night. I love it. I love it because then I get to eat the meal that I want. Right, 100%. When somebody else cooks, I have to eat their meal. Right, no, I totally get that. So I absolutely like that. I do agree with that wholeheartedly. What do you think is the best thing that I've made? I mean, you make a lot of delicious things. I just feel like even the other day, you made a salad and it was just lettuce, tomato, red onion parmesan and I was like oh Ben did you like put a little lemon juice with salt like you just you do have an attention to detail like your food is always very fresh you make delicious grilled chicken you make delicious brisket the only things that I personally don't like that you make or like when I see how much mayo you're putting in stuff and I'm just like this is not for me you're not you're not a heavy mayo like you make delicious food you know thank you it's just always like and and I believe that that is what the fundamentals of a good meal are yeah protein starch veg salad you know and it's like you just make one of each of those every night and it's like people I think are always so worried about like composing a dish like yeah and it's like cook a piece of chicken make a sweet potato steam a broccoli make a bagged salad and you got yourself like people are always like how do you do these dinner and like I do so many shortcuts but I like really believe in just sort of like elevating the basics yeah where it's like yeah I like I have no problem like just like the lettuce is cut already do you know what i mean it's thrown in the bowl make it look nice totally but do not give me a piece of chicken and a string bean you need you need variety at a table yes and you do that i'm i'm a big you need a bunch of things to pull from yeah and most importantly the biggest hack is fucking salt and pepper yeah use salt and pepper on garlic powder onion powder i use it on salad live like people don't do that salt and pepper on salad with lemon juice.

1:07:46That's what took that salad from a mundane salad to a great. It was so delicious. Salt and pepper. Like use it. A hundred percent. I love that. I do. I also think the other thing too, is like people are always like, wow, you cook like so much food. And it's like, um, I'm sorry. Like people are always coming in and out of my house. I have a family to feed breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Like I love, I don't mind having leftovers in my fridge for a day or two. It's amazing having extra grilled chicken in the fridge. It's amazing having sweet potatoes or rice like it's so great like it's almost like inadvertent meal prep it's like i of course i make way more food than the people that are sitting at the table 100 it's like one one job like you know what's what's the phrase but it's like build once run everywhere like that sort of thing you also have a husband that eats for three which is great like they're like there's four people here no there's actually seven like which is great yeah so like no yeah it's that's also sorry another pet peeve yeah and sadly we're gonna have to no i know it's I know it's so fun.

1:08:42But another pet peeve is if I'm coming over to your house and there's eight people and you made eight pieces of chicken. No, not okay. That's not okay. You should never run out of anything. I agree. Nothing. I agree. You can't run out of anything. I agree. If you have leftovers, no problem. Put them in the fridge. And by the way, if you're like in our house, it's like it's eight people and then four kids. Like that's at least 12 pieces of chicken. At least. Even if the kids are not eating a full bread. But like you have to account for like every mouth. Especially with protein. Like if you're going to run out of a side, okay.

1:09:09Right. You can't run out of the main. I agree. You cannot. Totally agree. I should be able to eat as much fucking chicken as I want. I'm always actually like very much overdoing it. Yeah. But like I'm 100%. By the way, before we wrap up, we have to do Queenie and Weenie. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Who is your, okay, Queenie and Weenie of the week? Yeah. People that we love, people that we hate, or things that we love, things that we hate. Okay. My Queenie, this is like such a lame answer, but I'm sorry. It's obviously going to be Jackie and Claudia. I feel like we have to give them their props.

1:09:34Yes. Totally. They gave us this platform to just like spew for the last hour. We've obviously had the best time, but they're just they're so beautiful, stunning and smart. And I love them so much. So they will always be my queens. They're my queens every week. You know? Yes, they are. They are. Would you have the same answer? I would have the same answer. I think we're going to share a queenie. I was going to make it my wife. And I think I should also make it Jackie. Totally. Totally. Love that. Just like they they kill it. And like they're. And we love them so much. Like they have like such a huge platform and work so hard, but are also such dedicated moms.

1:10:02Totally. People don't get to see that side of them. 100%. But they really are unbelievable moms, as are you. Yeah, but they also built an amazing community. Like whenever I like me toasters in the wild, like it's always just like the best of humankind. You know? Everything they touch is just like fabulous. They're so unbelievably sweet. I'll do my weenie. My weenie is the fucking Tesla, okay? Look, I've already spoken at length about how the Tesla runs out of charge. You guys have heard that, whatever. I think there's a new setting where I now need to swipe up to go into drive and down to go into reverse.

1:10:34Yeah. And let me tell you, we were fine with buttons. Okay? We were fine with buttons. We were fine with keys. We were fine with keys. I don't want to have to find my magic key card that then goes in a magic place on the side of the Tesla to open it. God forbid I left my wallet somewhere. I can't even turn on my fucking car. All of a sudden, I go to turn on the car. Liv, you can't turn on the car without putting your foot on the brake. You put your foot on the brake. You put a key in a specific place. This is unbelievable. I am not a Tesla driver or older. I'm team Hyundai. So I'm, buttons, keys, so here for all of that.

1:11:10Out. Out. I love that. And did you see they just, I mean, this is not really, I mean, it is a story. I'm not commenting if it's a weenie or queenie. Elon Musk got approved for a trillion dollar payout. I saw. Oh my God, what do you do with a trillion dollars? I mean, I don't know. You buy a country. Or like more rocket ships and stuff? I guess so. How much like do those things cost? Like a rocket ship? I'm not even, I mean, maybe like actually builds a, maybe like 50 million. Does that sound like a hundred million? $100 million? $100 million for a rocket ship? It sounds good. I mean, it sounds about right.

1:11:39I read some statistic that if you made$10 ,000 a day since the day that Jesus Christ was born, you still wouldn't have as much money as Elon Musk's current net worth. Wow. $10 ,000 a day? Yeah. Since Jesus? I wanted to—when was Jesus born? A long time ago, Liv. Don't ask me for specifics. I don't know the answer. We're Jewish. We got to pass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's my weenie? I don't really know. I mean, I guess it's those motherfuckers that robbed the Louvre and or the museum employee that made the password Louvre. Like, what the fuck? Totally not cool. Like, just like some dumb aspects of society, generally speaking, would be weenie for me, maybe.

1:12:18100%. You know, like, get it together. It's kind of like what we were saying before. Like, we're so advanced and we're so behind. Figure it the fuck out. Like, that mentality is weenieism to me. Figure it the fuck out. Folks, follow Olivia on social. Totally. Follow Ben on social. He's a celebrity chef. Follow me on social. Go to SpritzSociety.com. Check out our stuff. Listen to the Good Guys podcast. It's absolutely fantastic. It is. It's fantastic. It's fantastic. I'm so proud of you, Ben. You're just so wonderful. Thank you, darling. You are too. And folks, this episode has been unbelievable.

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