Verdict Is: Booger: Wednesday, September 10th, 2025

0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the shows and happy hump day don't forget to hum someone you love and speaking of girlies that i personally love and of course oh you can't hurt to ask would always love an opportunity to hump it's jacqueline folet the editor of runway france i would crush it just letting you know if i were the editor-in-chief oh crush swirly vibes all the time chloe malley step aside yeah she could use a little sprinkle of swirl hey jacks happy thursday wednesday i can't believe it's wednesday that hadn't registered to me i thought yesterday was wednesday and yesterday was such a long day and i i'm just done keeping track of the days of the week i actually usually post my outfit on instagram and like write the day that it is happy thursday it's just like something i've been doing since the dawn of time and it's getting harder and harder and i'm getting it wrong more and more.

1:17Wow. Okay, so she's, you heard it here first. This is what Jackie's doing. She's wiping her hands clean of days of the week, even though it's literally our entire personality. I know, but it's just like, it's just getting hard to keep up with. Okay, listen, you at this stage in your life and your pregnancy, like you have to do what you have to do. Yeah, like Saturday is Sunday, Sunday is Saturday, and the other days are all the same. Correct. Happy Sunday. Happy Tuesday. But I guess happy Wednesday. That's cool that it's Wednesday. Latter half. Happy Martes to everyone who celebrasons. Miraculous, but okay.

1:53Oh, for sure. Miraculous. For sure, my man. I'm sorry. I speak a myriad of languages. Spanish, of course, being one of them. And it's hard. Sometimes you get your languages confused. Yes, of course. It actually does happen a lot. Whenever I find myself speaking a lot of one language, Like if I ever like when we were on vacation in Israel and like you speak more Hebrew, I started to like throw some Spanish in there because they're literally the same. They're the same. Hebrew and Spanish are the same. Can confirm. That's what I'm saying. Can confirm. No entiendo. Por favor. Shalom. Shalom. Well, today is kind of a highly anticipated day here at the toast because we teased this yesterday.

2:33We have a fabulous show today and then we also have an additional Dear Toasters at the end of today's episode. Now, I don't want to spoil it, but we have a major sponsor coming in saying, I just know there was a girl who worked at the agency who represented this brand being like, I want my dear toasters, so I'm just going to pay for it. Oh, interesting. I was just going to say a toaster in tune with what's necessary, what the market wants, what the people want. And that is sponsor DT. And the people came in so clutch yesterday figuring out what she doesn't even know is about. Now, a lot of people were like, yeah, Jackie's right.

3:06It's from Eurotrip. Scotty doesn't know. No. No, it's not. No, no, no. No, it's not. I didn't say it's from Eurotrip. I said it feels like something like that, even though it wound up. And it's not. Not. It wound up being so swirly. Of course it's from the iconic. It's the best feeling ever. Raise your voice. And yeah, they're like at a par. Like some guy's like mixing like a thing and he's trying to get the attention of that girl. That was like part of his showcase, right? Yeah, right. He takes, he's like a DJ. He's like, she doesn't even know. and he sends it into the microphone and then like records it and makes like a bop Buddha with it.

3:35Iconic. Iconic. I can't believe I wasn't able to place that on my own. I'm disappointed in myself. It was like, so we were never going to get it, but it felt so good when it clicked. And there are a lot of films that we quote a lot that literally raised us. I feel like, you know, you can guess them. Mean Girls, Legally Blonde, Confessions of a Shopaholic, like, and Raise Your Voice is definitely one of them. And I don't even like consider it. It's not like quotable, you know yes jackie no but as far as like daily jargon like she wasn't really like slaying in a major way she was going through a lot a nerd yeah brother oh my the brother it's like kind of a dark film it's not something that you just like pop off with you're so right uh but it doesn't mean that it's not significant i mean one more mile to jericho the walls will tumble the walls will Like someone's watching over me.

4:34And that I'm sure it's like not a story, but it made waves yesterday that Hilary Duff signed a record deal. It got the boot at the last minute. What did it get replaced by? Oh, it got replaced by Joe Jonas's nose. It did. Oh, which we need to talk about. Sorry. It's not story worthy. Don't even talk about it because I was thinking maybe tomorrow. Like, let's see what happens. No, we're literally talking about Hilary Duff's music right now. We have to talk about it just really briefly. while I'm not one of those people who's like sitting around twiddling her thumbs waiting for Hilary Duff to like rejoin the music scene like it was a moment in time it is what it is and it was what it was and like I'm okay with letting sleeping dogs lie having said that when you do study the discography and specifically the raise your voice soundtrack it's hard to imagine better music ever being made yeah it's tough um I feel like Hilary Duff has defied all of the odds of like child stars Disney stars and I feel like it's because she's like plunged into acting and taken on like really good projects and like I just I couldn't ever have predicted this level of success for her like in such a traditional sense that you forget that she's Lizzie McGuire right she has real longevity I feel like her doing music is like taking steps backwards and like I'm not I'm not like thinking it's the best idea however I could have never predicted this career for her up until this point and don't forget she's married to Matthew Koma like producer to the stars like right she's got like she's got a song in her heart and she's gonna sing it so I think it's less like you know of a business thing versus just like creatively I feel like putting out music which is just so scary but um yeah I'm gonna trust her because she's made it like this far she's crushing it she doesn't flop these days like I'm gonna trust her even though I wouldn't have made that call I know it is really hard to follow up though like coming clean like she really had and you just shifted the cultural landscape you just know the people who wrote those songs like that's not who she's working with not only that like that's the people who wrote those songs like aren't making contemporary hits like they were popular at that time and we did a deep dive like years ago yes we did who wrote Hannah Montana soundtrack like right camp rock soundtrack like who are those people those songs are amazing yeah the Kenny Ortegas like of the world there are there was like a duo that was like writing all of them I don't know what they're doing now but I just know like hillary's not working with the people who brought us someone's watching over me and so yeah in certain scenarios i'm more of a fan of like letting sleeping dogs lie but if hillary wants to do it then hillary's gonna do it and who the hell am i just some fat slob like i'm trusting hillary is what i'm saying because like she has done well yeah for herself you're right so it sounds like you're trusting your faves even though she's not your fave but I know what you're saying.

7:17She's not my fave, but like she's not my fave. Right. Right. I don't have beef. I don't have beef. You don't. Oh, I had actually temperate. You do have beef, but she seems just like a sound of mine celebrity. I'm trusting a sound of mine celebrity. I had temporary beef with Hilary Duff, but I have let it go ever since she went on the Good Guys podcast. And Ben said she was just an absolute queen delight, like couldn't have been more generous with her time. So I let my personal beef go. But if you know, it's like an old story. When I was on vacation, it was like spring break junior year. We went to the Atlantis in the Bahamas.

7:47And it was actually, there was a time period where the Atlantis in the Bahamas was the hottest place to be. And on that particular trip, we saw Andy Cohen, who we took a picture with, and he actually couldn't have been nicer. And obviously I love Bravo. And it all stems from like when I was in high school, me and my friends were fucking obsessed with Bravo. So to have met Andy, he was like obviously drunk and like so excited to be recognized. He was actually an amazing celebrity encounter. And then later on in the trip, we saw Hilary Duff at the casino. and we were excited obviously and she could not have been more rude.

8:17She literally came up to us. We were like, oh, she thinks we're cool. She wants to hang. She likes our outfits. She thinks these 12-year-olds are cool. To be clear, we were 16 and how much older is Hilary Duff than me? She, what, was 20? How were you in the casino? Well, that's why we went to the Atlantis because, you know, everything there was 18. So we were 16. We didn't look so crazy and you could walk through. The casino's in the middle of the hotel. You do have to walk through it to get to other parts of the hotel. From like the pool to the other part. So you weren't sitting at a table. We were just constantly like moving through the hotel, moving through the casino just to like be in the casino.

8:48And there's also restaurants in the casino. There were ways to be in the casino. And they weren't like that strict. So we were just moving through the casino, moving in silence. And Hilary Duff literally came up to us. And like we all clenched our cheeks. We were like, oh, she's literally like going to want to hang out with us. And she was like, if I take a picture with you guys, will you stop staring? And we were like, yeah, for sure. Like, let's take a picture. We have a picture. I'll find it somewhere. Um, yeah. So it was actually many years that I harbored a lot of resentment towards Hillary Duff.

9:18But now in hindsight, like I do understand Hillary, she was on vacation. We were being like definitely so lame and annoying. Like we probably thought we were being subtle and we were not. Um, and so like, could she have been nicer or just ignored us? Yes. Did she have to go out of her way to like literally bully us? No, she did. But that was also like a crazy time for her. It was right after Lizzie McGuire. She was, it was the coming clean era. She was her pop star era when she had brown hair. So like, whatever. It's fine. I've obviously, I'm over it. Like, it's fine. I think she deserves like clean slate tabular asset.

9:53Agreed. Agreed. It's really not that bad. No, it's not. But it's about how you felt in that moment. Like it made you feel really bad. The biggest loser on the planet. That's on you. It's actually not on me. I couldn't have been like as a group of me and my friends. And we talk about literally if the horse is dead, we're going to beat it. Me and my friends, when we get together, all we do is talk about this Hillary Duff moment. That's all we do on this show. Right, right. We, me and my high school friends have like a couple of celebrity encounters that like defined our adolescence. One was Brooke Hogan.

10:26Okay. We met her at this crazy restaurant in Miami that like used to serve cocktails. Like every cocktail, every dish was like a circus show. It was so stupid. of course Hilary Duff and then when we were in high school we would get like free periods and we could leave the building they were always filming Gossip Girl on the Upper East Side like during the day you would see the trailers like parked out of like random buildings so when we had a free period I don't know how people would find out but you'd say like oh my friend saw the trailer on 74th and Park and we would just like walk around and seriously wait outside for them to come and every hour and then we got a pic yeah people always got pictures they were actually very generous with like especially their fellow like New York City high school students their inspirations I don't know if the yeshiva was their inspiration but yeah we liked like we thought we were living gossip girl yeah we thought sorry we knew we were living gossip girl all's to say Hillary is heading to the studio tabular ass all's to say tabular ass for sure for sure and now being on the other side of it as a celebrity yourself as a celebrity myself i can honestly say i've never been like even remotely rude to anybody if anybody comes up to me i like lick their butt i'm like oh man you love me you didn't go up to her so when someone's staring at you that's not a good that happens i see toasters in the wild who definitely like are like nervous and shy and i don't like slap them like she did i'm like i always give like a nice smile i'm like i'm like i know love you yeah but then yeah it's also like a little presumptuous that you're staring because Because you know who I am.

12:00Like maybe I have something in my teeth. This is a wholly unrelatable conversation that like people might not understand. But there is a delicate balance like of seeing someone like smiling at you. And I'm like, oh, they're a toaster. Especially if they're like a young. Yeah. Like the elk of a toaster. The elk of a toaster. So I never want to assume. But like it's pretty safe to assume a lot of the times. I haven't had an experience where I assumed that the person was like, oh, actually you just have some shit in your teeth. But I'm sure that's in my future. I don't assume. I just wait. Like. Anyone?

12:28She's so shy. Yeah. No, no. I couldn't assume that. We just like that's not going to end well for me. No. So come say hi. And congrats to Hillary. Yeah. Yeah. We're trusting our sound of mind celebrities who made it through the storm of child stardom. I feel like we actually have a lot to discuss today in addition to the bonus DTQ. So if you're set, I'm set. I feel good. I feel good to go. So without further ado to do to do, here are the Fast Five stories that you need to know. And the Fast Five stories that you need to know are brought to you by the Audible's original Pride and Prejudice. So the Audible original Pride and Prejudice is an intimate performance that will have you falling in love with the Jane Austen classic all over again.

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17:32Our first story, some big exciting news. Secret Lives of Mormon Wives star Taylor Frankie Paul is the next Bachelorette. So lots shaking up at The Bachelor. this next season of The Bachelor was supposed to be The Bachelor. They just finished The Bachelorette. And instead, they're skipping over to The Bachelorette and they're tapping Taylor Frankry Paul from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, who was on Hulu, The Bachelor's on ABC. She's part of the family. This is the first time. They always say like, Amy Schumer should be The Bachelorette. Khloe Kardashian should be The Bachelorette. Right, right, right.

18:00This is the first time they've actually done it and taken someone outside of the franchise. Well, except for Matt James, but he did go on Claire's season. Did he? Yeah. he just like got out early he did i don't think he was like supposed to and then no he was just friends with tyler cameron no i think he was going on claire's season and they they pulled him oh maybe he was about to yeah yeah oh but yeah but he had never been on tv yet yes but he was like part of the bachelor family but yes this is most akin to that but this is like really it's happening a single celebrity who's known for being single who we all want to find love and we all like enjoy watching whose amazing television is going on the bachelorette so everyone's loving this and i do like it we're gonna get more into it i just have a little bit of a concern that the secret lives of mormon wives stars are literally putting hulu abc disney on their backs right they're now all over dancing with the stars everyone's talking about it they're literally carrying hulu it's the biggest and best show on the planet and now abc and i fear that we're taking them away from the core project right and even if they're not filming right now which i don't think that they are because the new season is about to come out we're kind of like spreading them thin you know and i need all of their crazy energy for the original show i i'm hoping i'm just being like you know extra cautious but i don't know it's like a lot i actually don't have that concern one there's so many of them everyone can take a piece of the pie and carry There's so many of them, but like a few of them are like what we need, you know?

19:34Yes. But these sorts of things like add different dynamics to their friend group and mom talk group. And like, it's all about the business. And so like this just, you know, even she got to present an award at the CMAs and it was a major storyline. And that was like nothing compared to being the bachelorette, which is literally like the biggest gig you can get in reality TV. So I think it adds like a layer of drama. I do. And I agree with that. Although I don't think it's the biggest job you can get in reality TV anymore. I would say it's amongst the biggest, like for becoming the bachelor lead.

20:05Yeah. Well, I mean like these days, it's not name the last three. It's not what it was, but like it still has that recognize it. It's not all the way gone. It's recognizable, but I do think it's all the way gone. I don't, I agree. I actually completely agree with what you're saying. Like, I do think it adds like these, cause it's like a hierarchy. There's going to be like jealousy. Thousand percent. You're right about that. With the stars, who knows what's going on even between like Whitney and Jen on dancing with the stars. With dancing with the stars. For sure. to me feel that they're on Dancing with the Stars and she's not I think it adds so much like fodder for the show and yeah maybe eventually like burnout would be a concern but I think right now like we're in peak are you gonna watch this yes I love Taylor Frankie Paul that was my takeaway from the last season the first season she had such a rough first season of course yeah and like her choices were so bad and it was a lot to take on yeah it was just like a really lot and she went she was pregnant so like she wasn't really all the way in the mix and like we didn't get to know who she is like on a regular day season two I just like loved her so much and I want what's best for her and I feel like this is a really good way to find love however I do feel like romantically like she kind of makes poor choices yeah and it will be interesting to watch them play out like to like I hope she makes good choices but we'll be able to see like those patterns of behavior that have like landed her in the spot that she's in yeah and I feel like on this most recent season we kind of just barely scratched the surface at a lot of her like intimacy issues and where that comes from and then like her parents and and all of that so I think that it will make for interesting tv and I also think it'll just get her further away from the loser that is her ex Dakota like anything that gets her further away from being in a relationship with the biggest loser of all time I personally am a huge fan of I just want to say I could like see this bachelorette happening Bringing them closer together.

21:52No, like she ends up with someone like it doesn't work out. And she ends up with Dakota. No, I know. They're like so like they can't quit each other and they have to. Yeah. I feel like the kind of guy that she's looking for is typically the kind of guy that goes on The Bachelor. Like I feel like the. Really? Yeah. It's just like kind of like a regular guy. She's not looking for a celebrity. No. I think a lot of them like they need to be able to live in Utah. She said she said they don't have to be Mormon. but belief in God would be preferred though she said she's open she said it's hard to raise kids and I'm sure they've casted a couple Mormons yeah yeah but also they have to be able to move to Utah but I feel like like a lot of people in the like if you think who's come off the bachelor like they don't they're not not moving they're the elk of Utah yeah yeah it's not like they all want to move to some of them but I don't I feel like there's chance for like real love here I hope that they cast well and you know she gets some really good guys agreed and it's also good because like Khloe Kardashian Amy Schumer would have never gone out with like no actually right but like she could have met a guy from the bachelor at the CMA awards like she swims in this right that's the pond it's perfect it'll also be interesting because I feel like we're always talking about like the bachelor franchise at a glance like how crazy of a downfall they've had and if there's something that can revive it like this really would be it i'm surprised mary yeah i'm surprised that they were that whoever's in charge there like really had the foresight to just like stop the hamster we're like you don't have to choose someone from the last season like you can switch it up i'm surprised that they had the foresight because they've really like dropped the ball so profoundly here um and it will be interesting to see if this is enough to revive the franchise it might have a great season and then flop again it might be like big buzzy news and people don't tune in, I will be really curious to see.

23:46It might have a great season. Like I will be watching and then I might really start to like the person who becomes the next Bachelor. And now I'm back in the cycle. The thing is, part of the reason why I gave up on The Bachelor and something I'm actually nervous about when I go into my Dancing with the Stars journey this year is ABC and cable in general, but specifically ABC, like they really take advantage of your time. Like it's a two hour show with commercial breaks every 10 seconds. And then even when you're watching, like it doesn't need to be two hours. It's literally 30 minutes of substantial content.

24:17So I find myself getting so bored, so like stuck to my phone. And The Bachelor is really bad with that. So hopefully they take a lesson, a page out of Hulu. Like Hulu gives us just parginess, like so much content, so much. Let's take a page. It doesn't need to be filler half the episode. And it's okay. The episode can be one hour. It's fine. I think it's only going to be worse because now they have our interest. Now the advertisers are back. Like they're going to go hard in the paint and we have to sit through it. That's where the streamers like really put cable on their ass. Like they just did it better.

24:47And I don't know if anyone from like Hulu is listening, but like that's why I stopped watching. Like because you guys took advantage of my time. It was two episodes a week, two hours each, literally for 15 minutes. Like that's really what we were looking for, the 15 minutes of core good content. And then like bonus episode after the final rose. Like it's just too much. Yeah. Are you going to watch? You know me. I like to get on board when like everybody's like I'm going to let people watch the first episode. And if like everyone's talking about it, then yeah, I'll be there. But I've got we've kind of got it all covered.

25:19I'm the Dancing with the Stars correspondent. And if it's amazing, I'm going to make you watch it. OK. And you are the Bachelorette correspondent. If it's amazing, you'll make me watch it. OK. I mean, it's going to be a while. I don't think she's filmed yet. They just announced her. They're going to definitely get people who are interested in dating her and also interested in dating someone with kids. Like she does have three kids. Right. So that will play into it. It's so very Emily Maynard of her. She's the second one with kids since Emily Maynard. And then she'll have to film it and then they have to release it.

25:47So it probably usually actually they drop episodes in January. I feel like that's actually a decent kid, like a good guess for when this is coming out. And I'm sure it'll be on the balls of Mormon wives, like using that. Everybody watched the season, loved Mormon wives. They want more. Well, you can get more of Taylor Frankie Paul on the new season of The Bachelorette. bachelorette it would be good if in this season that's coming out in november like taylor is in talks to be the bachelorette oh for sure by the way talking about it for sure yeah it's it's exciting i think job well done yes totally idea i was gonna say toasty lion giving toasty lions what was the thing like a week or two ago maybe more that we said in the hamptons but i didn't write it down because my phone was recording right that we wanted to add to toasty lions and we said if it was really that good we would remember we would remember it write it in the comments you guys if you know what i'm talking about and then we'll discuss tomorrow if it was good enough for toasty lions but i agree this deserves a toasty lions award can you for anyone new here explain the toasty lions list and then tell me who's on it so far okay so the toasty lions is our version of can lions where can lions is a award for best in advertising and so toasty lions is awards for best in advertising and synergy uh as we see it yes here are let me see if i can guess all of them it's actually longer than i thought the actor from smart house did a partnership with like samsung like a smart home yeah right like um they have make like doorbell cameras whatever genius love it love it love it that's top of the list lindsey hubbard did a partnership with like kleinfelds and an organization it's called kleinfelds again where they do resale dresses it's not an organization it was just um Right.

27:30She never used her wedding dress, so she donated it. Pargy. Pargy. Then this is a really good one. The Flip-Off sponsoring the toast. Yes. Christina Hack El Moussa and Tariq El Moussa's HGTV show using us to launch their new spinoff called The Flip-Off. That was brilliant. Marketing. Alex Earl for Carl's Jr. Oh, OK. So like obvious. Yeah, I guess we were giving it to them because like good job on being obvious. Like good job on doing your job. And I love Alex Earl. I don't want to take her off the list, but this is actually not at all. I agree, but I'm going to leave it. Just put it at the bottom.

28:08We were obviously being like playing fast and loose with the Toasty Lions. Agreed. Like Alex Earl is this generation's Paris Hilton. Like, yeah. Duh. Kristen Cavallari's E! show podcast tour. Podcast tour show on E! No. I'm going to put it with Alex Earl. Yeah, they both can go. They're not holding up. They're not holding space. Astronomer Gwyneth Paltrow video. Yes. That goes at the top. That was a great Toasty Lions moment. And then Taylor Frankie Paul for The Bachelor. I think that will withstand, but we'll see if in a couple of months we go back to the list and we think it's stupid. Congratulations to all the winners.

28:45Huge. Are you ready for our next story? Mm-hmm. Andy Cohen says that he lost 25 pounds by microdosing a GLP-1 all summer. There's so much to say about this. Andy Cohen has come forward to share that he was taking a GLP-1 all summer, like low dose microdosing, as the kids say. And he said it would be hypocritical to ask people about their appearance and be the guy who suddenly lost 25 pounds but isn't mentioning it. So he shared that on his show. His radio show. Yeah. So I have so many thoughts. Because when I was on my GLP-1 journey, it really bothered me how like Andy, every time somebody looked a little bit different, would be like, are you on a Zempic?

29:24It's such a personal thing. And I obviously had like such a fabulous but very personal experience with it. And I spoke about it like on my own terms. And he was just like putting people in the hot seat. And it really fucking bothered me how he did it. And always like in a condescending way. And it's just so funny, you know. It's so funny how now like Andy's taking it. Obviously because GLP-1s are the most amazing thing to ever happen on the planet. And everyone should take it. Not even people who are morbidly obese. But anyone who wants to lose 15 to 20 pounds, it can really increase your overall health.

29:52And I'm so glad Andy is seeing that. Now, I find his verbiage very, you know, funny. Like a micro, you're taking a topic. Like, just say it. Yeah, like you're on a low dose because you're not obese. But I was on a low dose, too. And I was obese because it works really well. You don't need that much, especially in the beginning. Like micro dosing. And actually, Ben had Terry Dubrow on his podcast. And, you know, I think when we think about like Ben's idols, like we always talk about like Jack Black, Stanley Tucci. Ina Gard. Ina. Really, Ben loves Terry Dubrow. He thinks he's so smart, so funny.

30:26Like he thinks his business is amazing. And I think he's been on Good Guys now twice. He loves, loves, loves Terry Dubrow. And the last time they did a whole conversation about Ozembic and GLP1s, because Terry has been a very vocal doctor. So many people like doctors specifically love to like come out and say it's like, you know, for lazy fat people. But Terry said that micro dosing GLP1s is the best longevity hack in like the last 100 years of medical breakthroughs. Like it is the most amazing. and so obviously Andy got the microdosing thing from Terry Dubrow but you're just taking those epic and Andy looks amazing and by the way I've read Andy's books and it's crazy how his weight defines his whole life his books are basically diary entries of like a two-year period where he writes every day like what he did that day and he starts every day with his weight like he is obsessed he's like you I weighed myself today and it was kind of exactly what I had that's good um imagine expected i was like oh yeah i'm probably like this number if i had been like more than that i would have been like yikes i didn't expect to be less than that of course so yeah like no surprises and now i'm like i wish i weighed myself throughout a little bit at least like right when i got pregnant but that was like after months of trying to get pregnant and packing on the pounds so i wasn't right you know just to like know where i was at but i guess i could always ask my doctor because they were weighing me it's fine yeah no no it's just interesting i like the data i wish there was a way to weigh yourself and record it and not know until you need the data free idea free idea for a scale company there are plenty of smart scales yeah shark tank um all's that to say i'm surprised it took andy so long to do this because he is weight obsessed he's also on tv and famous and that makes you obviously like really neurotic about how you look um but he's obsessed with his weight and so for someone who is i'm surprised it took him this long Yeah, but I'm sure that's also why he was asking everyone, like, are you on Ozempic?

32:16I think, like, probably a part of him was, like, Ozempic curious. Yeah. Yeah, maybe that's why. That's how his curiosity manifested itself in being a pain in the ass. Yeah, and, like, and maybe it came off as, like, aggressive and insensitive, but it was really him just, like, being excited about the drug and seeing, like, is it working? Like. That's really a beautiful take. I like that. Because I feel like that's how I feel about it. Someone obsessed with Wade who's, like, never been on it yet. I go on Ozempic. How's it going? Right. Yeah, but whenever you ask, I don't feel like it comes from a place of judgment.