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The Toast Podcast Summary
Episode
We've Been Framed: Friday, January 31st, 2025
Hosts
Jackie & Claudia Oshry
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Episode Overview In this episode, the hosts dive into various celebrity news topics, blending humor with commentary on the latest happenings in Hollywood. They also share personal anecdotes and insights while engaging in light-hearted banter.
Key Topics Discussed
- Celebrity Relationships
- Kaia Gerber and Lewis Pullman: Spotted together at Pullman’s birthday party shortly after Gerber’s split with Austin Butler. Discussion revolves around her dating choices and the unexpected nature of her new relationship.
- Chiara Ferragni's Confirmation of Infidelity: Ferragni publicly confirms her husband Fedez's infidelity amidst their marriage, discussing the emotional toll and implications for their family.
- Reese Witherspoon's Friendship Fallout: A revelation about a past award speech that caused a rift between Witherspoon and Kate Winslet, highlighting the delicate nature of friendships in Hollywood.
- Grammy Awards 2025
- Discussion of the presenters and performers at the upcoming Grammy Awards, including Taylor Swift, who is expected to attend but may not perform.
- Insights into the competitive nature of this year's nominees, with Taylor Swift and Beyoncé among the significant contenders.
- Southern Charm Recap
- Review of the latest episode focused on Austin Kroll's comments regarding Paige DeSorbo’s rumored new relationship, along with dynamics between co-stars and their evolving friendships.
- Kroll acknowledges DeSorbo’s dating rumors while also reflecting on his own breakup with her.
- Queenie and Weenie of the Week
- Queenie: The new studio setup for the show, representing a fresh start and evolution of their podcast.
- Weenie: The behavior of a fan petition against Gracie Abrams, which showcases toxic fandom culture.
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Key Takeaways
- Celebrity Insights: The episode encapsulates the complexities of relationships in Hollywood, from infidelities to public fallout and the pressures of fame.
- Cultural Commentary: The hosts provide a humorous yet critical lens on celebrity culture, touching upon themes of authenticity and the impact of public perception.
- Personal Anecdotes: Jackie and Claudia share their own experiences and thoughts, making the podcast relatable while maintaining a light-hearted atmosphere.
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Conclusion This episode of *The Toast* successfully combines pop culture commentary with personal stories, making it a lively and engaging listen for fans of celebrity news and humorous banter. The hosts effectively navigate serious topics while keeping the tone light and entertaining.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Good morning, millennials. Welcome back to the Toast and happy Friday, first Friday in the new studio. I don't know how long we're going to have to do shows before I stop remarking on the new studio at the beginning of every single episode. Until milestones stop being reached. Like next week, it'll be the first February episode in the new studio. And by the way, it's going to be a while because I cannot wait for my first period. Oh my gosh, on this couch. In this very feminine space, I feel like it's going to be really hard. You're in your feminine. A thousand percent. I literally, the studio kind of looks like the inside of a vagina.
0:34Like if you were to like, you know, like some TV shows, they're like your vagina on the inside. And then they would make it look like this very like, you know, pink. Right. Literally us. Literally us. That is so beautiful. We are so feminine. I do look forward to that milestone for you and like how this chair really accommodates a woman on her time. And I guess when like goes against what I believe, two paths diverge. Are you on your period? she may or may not be on her period. I just like, I would love to contribute to this conversation, but like it goes against my beliefs. So I'm. Okay. So by the way, we would never pressure anybody to go against their beliefs on this chair.
1:15Right. But I'm just saying like it may or may not have already been done and confirmed that it's a pleasant experience. And speaking of unpleasant experiences, yesterday was my official moving day. I know you guys are like, you've been moving out of your old studio for a month and I have, but yesterday like I officially brought like all my old crap to this new pargy place which is making me sick because closet there to put it in the closet here to never see it again except for if we ever make a toast museum and we need all of these old merch pieces and that is why Zach has a whole closet full of my old merch exactly and I can't lie when I tell you for toast museum I did absolutely nothing in the move like I didn't even meet the movers like they were literally in and out so easy of course we're a roadway we are a roadway integrated brand it's like my fourth move with roadway they really were so pargy um but upon walking into the studio today i was like oh all the old stuff like i don't want it i only want my new stuff you know yeah but sometimes i was just kind of like i was accosted by like my old life i'm like get out of here yeah but it's think about the herstory no and i've just had like a pit in my stomach about this day for like the last couple of weeks because it's like years and years of all of our stuff acquiring in that studio and you know it was our studio and then I was left to sort of do the move by myself and thankfully I wasn't by myself and I wasn't stressed out thanks to Roadway.
2:32Thank you Roadway for being there for my sister and I feel like people everyone knows Roadway like it's the go-to moving company but let's me not forget they moved me across the country too so if you're in any part of the country and you need to move call up your boys and girls at Roadway. I'm so glad you brought that up I have a code oh thank you it's the toast 10 the toast 1 0 you get 10 off local moves and 5 off long distance moves moving can be stressful but with roadway it doesn't have to be love that for us and I love that for you just a little integration this vertical integration Jack Donaghy would be proud you have big plans for the weekend it's Friday it's like kind of because I've been doing so much I haven't even been able to acknowledge that it's Friday I'm just I'm just busy you know so my big plans for the weekend started like two nights ago when the flu has hit our household and that's what I'll be doing this weekend is bearing down with the flu and getting through so yeah any plans I might have had which thankfully I didn't really have any like we'll just be home chilling relaxing recovering cozy recovering yeah willing so that's what I've been up to that like since we wrapped yesterday I've just been in flulandia I've actually watched a lot of tv if anybody wants like a paw patrol recap oh that kind of tv or Spidey and his amazing friends recap or a Bebethyn recap.
3:47I actually don't want a Spidey and his amazing friends recap. I can't stress that enough. And it's really sad. And I think maybe this is something you can probably relate to on a deeper level is like you'd love to see your kids enjoying things, right? And so like when all the kids in our family became obsessed with Spidey, I'm like, oh, that's so cute. What a nice hobby. Spidey's a good role model, even though him and his friends like are never supervised and they're literally six years old. And the way I've come to fucking hate that group of kids because you have the books. every like if music's playing in your house it's the album and now the tv show like i i really can't stress how i want to kill peter parker and his annoying loser friends go spider and what's the other one's name spin miles morales spin the only one in the characters that i don't despise is tracy um tracy because tracy who like exists he's like a tarantula that lives at the web quarters he's their robot he's like you know who's not a spider he's a spider yeah he's a spider shaped robot oh wait he's a spider oh man am i dumb yeah he like he's kind of like the tech guy he's like the one who's like you're in yeah he's like tracy help us out of here he's merlin from kingsman when they get older they'll get that reference he's he's the he's riley from national treasure i just re-watched national treasure over the weekend me and ben and it's ben's favorite movie and for some reason anything ben likes i automatically is like okay oh that sucks that It also feels right.
5:08Mighty tucks. Yeah, I just assume everything Ben's obsessed with is a piece of shit. Are your overhead lights on? No. Oh, okay, okay, sorry. You scared me. Okay, sorry, sorry. Tech department reared her ugly head, sorry. So when National Treasure was on cable, and Ben was like, let's watch it. I was honestly in the mood to scroll on my phone anyway, so I was like, sure, yeah. It was an opportunity for me to be agreeable. Let me tell you, I was absolutely dazzled by this film. So much, I was so mad that we watched it on cable, instead of like starting it from the beginning on Disney Plus because then the next night we watch National Treasure 2 on Disney Plus, like no commercials.
5:42No commercials and cable takes out Bitsy. Yeah, they cut it. Cubs. Let me tell you that film is amazing. And one, you're actually learning stuff, you know? You are learning a lot about American history. It is stacked cast. I mean, the leading lady. Do you know who it is? No. What's her name? Claire Danes. Now I'm feeling like maybe it's not her. I thought it was the girlie who was married to Joshua Jackson Kruger Is it not? Is she a national treasure? Or is it seriously a lookalike? No it's her She's great She's great John Voight plays his dad He's great And then Angelina's dad And then in the first movie the big villain Who they're fighting against for the declaration of independence Ned Stark not ned stark no it's stacked it is stacked and it's so good it withstands the test of time family friendly like if you have a kid who's like into history like i'm telling you we are collectively sleeping on the national treasure i feel like the country is not sleeping on it i feel good knowing that like i feel like it's up there as a national treasure 100 and no i think when we remark on it culturally we like make fun of like i'm gonna steal the declaration of independence and we make fun of like nicholas cage a part of our dna as a people and nicholas cage like he never has to work again because he was national treasure like i feel like true he gets his flowers when we finished the second movie we were like okay let's do the third and come to find there's three claudia if there isn't movie okay there isn't and there was like drama around it too i like was doing a brief like research and development mission on google and they were like gonna make it and then nobody wanted to do it and then they were gonna make it into a tv series it It was kind of turned.
7:30It was cursed. So I feel like there was bad interpersonal relationships on the set of National Treasure, and that gives me a pit. You know what you should watch if you want more National Treasure vibes? I didn't watch the movie, but I read the book, and I think the movie is Harry Potter level of adaptation. The Da Vinci Code. It's like France's National Treasure, but it's like art. Oh, you know what? That's actually a good recommendation. I think that's what you should watch. My goal this weekend is to watch The Brutalist. I don't know how. Like if anybody, like I don't obviously support pirating, but if any of our listeners are like SAG members who get a screener.
8:06But, you know, SAG members are like really, really strict about that. Like we texted Josh. We were like, hey, like, do you happen to have one of those SAG approved screeners? Because we just watched the episode of Curb where Larry's screeners get stolen and pirated on the Internet and he literally goes to prison. So I was reminded that like actors get, back in the day, in the Larry David episode, it was DVDs, but today they get a link. And we were like, hey, Josh. How's it going? How's the fam? Like he's already an Oppenheimer. He definitely gets screened. 1000%. He literally did not even answer us.
8:41That's how seriously he takes it. You know he would do anything for men, but not that. Well, maybe he also knew like you would tell this story on the toast. Like I watch a brutalist because Josh Peck sent me his ad. No, by the way, if he had given it to me, I would never have said how I got it. Of course. Yeah, but if people were looking into it, it's a pretty clear connection. It's a straight path to Josh Peck. Well, but maybe I would have lied and said, like, I went to the movies. Like, a little lie like that just to protect Josh's, like, identity. I agree. Yeah. Well, to be clear, for any of the Hollywood bigwigs listening, like, Josh totally respects the SAG system.
9:09He didn't even answer his best friend, his brother. And I still haven't seen The Brutalist, so. So you'll watch The Da Vinci Code. It was nominated for Movie of the Year 15 years ago. I believe it. And that's classic us. yes and yes yeah we're just a little behind i don't want it to get like lost in the mix that i read the da vinci code i just want to push that you forth again you did set that kind of scurry past that very interesting fact i did and much like you and deemer copperhead deemer i read it one because it looked good and two because i wanted people to know i was reading it so of course it's been two years but i think we should circle back to that point and i'm glad to let you guys know like it it's really good like it holds up um speaking of barbara kingsolver and the da vinci copperhead um on jeopardy a couple of days ago there was a category like literary like pulitzer something like really me and ben sort of just like tuned out and the first one was like looking for the the author of demon copperhead i forget remember her name of course i could jackie i remember every fact of that book like because it was my personality for six months and I was like who is Kingsolver?
10:17Was Ben gooped and gagged? Gooped and like he hit the floor. He was like what? How did you know that? I'm like oh you see that book on the windowsill? It's literally on my windowsill. I display it because I'm so proud. It's right next to Mike the Situations book. I said you see that book over there? Pulitzer okay.
10:38Pulitzer. Did it win the Pulitzer or was it just nominated? No it won no. no no I don't know I'm just asking I demon copperhead Pulitzer and then what won the next year like maybe we should do that maybe that's a good one the fiction the fiction prize in 2023 okay what won the fiction Pulitzer in 2024 maybe that would be like a good place to start for a book wreck Nightwatch by Jane Ann Phillips a beautifully rendered novel set in West Virginia. Wow, they really love the, what's that region called? Appalachia, the great American novel. In the aftermath of the Civil War. Nightwatch, it's called?
11:26Yeah. Two words? Nightwatch. Am I speaking English? I found it. Sorry, it wasn't coming up on Goodreads. I'll put it on my want to read. Sure. Then Demon Copperhead in 2023. Oh, Demon Copperhead was a tie. someone else trust by hernan diaz a riveting novel set in a bygone america that explores family wealth and ambition through linked narratives rendered okay seriously that's not even english i don't know it's a book oh wait club this looks good like an unparalleled novel about money power intimacy and perception like aren't we that does sound good that's not how they described it on pulitzer.org um i'm hitting the want to read in 2022 a book called the netanyahu's by joshua cohen oh how scary i know 2021 the night watchman that's weird yeah they obviously are have like a favoritism i'm just literally scrolling to see if there's a book i do recognize yes 25 2015 all the light we cannot see one of like the most popular holocaust books of all time and then in 2014 the goldfinch that was made into a movie right yes it was those are the ones that i recognize going back to the early 2000s.
12:34Yeah. Okay, well, thank you for that little literary lesson. We're literally like a podcast that talks about Pulitzer Prize voting. Like, these other bitches could never. These other bitches could never in any given episode. Pulitzer, sports, fashion. Do you think the Da Vinci Code won a Pulitzer? Like, have we both read like two different, I know you also read Stephen Copperhead, but. I don't think Da Vinci Code would have won a Pulitzer. I feel like it was too mainstream, if I may. Yeah, yeah. I feel like there are commercials for The Da Vinci Code. Right? It's like Harry Potter winning the Pulitzer, which it could have, maybe should have.
13:12Oh, no. God forbid, like something popular wins an award. Well, that's why, like, Demon Copperhead was popular. Popular. You're gonna be popular. Oh, my God. I got the funniest email this morning. Ooh. It was forwarded to me. It was a Dear Toaster submission. I have to read it to you, okay? I know it's like not dear. We're talking like raw dog and deer toasters? It's not funny enough for deer toasters, and it's like personal to me. Oh. Hey, Jackson Turd, long-time listener, first-time writer. I love you, but I'm writing in with some real beef. I listened to your glowing review of the movie The Substance.
13:46Turd said she'd never seen anything like it, and I took her word for it. Because of this, I decided to watch this on a third date with a guy I really like, and he almost vomited at multiple points throughout the experience. Do I acknowledge the fact that with this potential suitor, that he cannot protect me in my time of need? Or do we just avoid scary movies for the rest of our courtship? P.S. Demi deserves to win the award. P.S. S. Thanks for warning about the third boob. Yeah, it is a very, very graphic film in terms of like needles and skin and blood. And I know people do have like physical reactions to that.
14:17But like, honestly, I feel like this is good for you. Let me reposition. Because she said she really, really liked him. And it puts you in a position of power. Like now he's feeling like weak and small and embarrassed. and like you have the upper hand. Yeah, and like you probably got like a little bit of the ick. Not enough to like stop liking him. It's not his fault. But like you can't even watch a movie without throwing up. Like what are you six? So now I feel like you have a little bit like of a less of a power imbalance between you and this guy. Like you're on equal playing fields now. Yeah, your crush has been tempered a little bit, which is good for you.
14:46And he's like wanting to impress you now. And that's it. You're welcome. Yeah, and that's just a good thing to know about a potential partner. Like if they are a queasy type, But it does bring me back to Dana's birth story. Dana's birth story, which will live in infamy in my personal mind till the end of time. Dana's birth story is on the Redheads episode of our October episode. But just like to cut to the chase, her husband fainted in the delivery room. And he decided to look over behind the curtain of a C-section, which they tell you not to do. Literally, your entire body is open. Right. Not only did he faint, which is very inconvenient, but like he hit his head on the way down and had to go across the street to the other part of the hospital to get stitches.
15:28So he wasn't even with her for like multiple hours after she gave birth. Dana said that they had to take him from the hospital to the emergency room, which is on the other side of the street, in an ambulance. That's insane. It is truly one of the craziest birth stories I've ever heard in my life. So now that you have this like red flag about this boyfriend that you have, this is good. Just like make sure when you're giving birth, like he is not near. Behind the curtain. The scene. Yeah. How are the stories today? Random, but good. And I think we'll put a nice button on the week. Oh, you know what?
16:03I've been targeted with a lot of content. I actually meant to download and send it to you, but I'm so over doing that. I can't, like, I actually can't stress how over it I am. But a lot, and I feel like it's so unfair when people do this. Like when we find out something about someone, then you go back and watch all their content through that lens. You're like, well, look, we could have told you. Is this Matt James? Yes. It's all this old TikTok Reels content from Matt James and Rachel. And now knowing what we know about their relationship and just like how imbalanced it was. And he was kind of like unemotional, maybe like a little mean.
16:33If you watch his content, which was supposed to be like at the time fun and playful. Nobody thought anything at the time. Now through that lens, it really is. Like I hate to be that person. Like it's really, it's bad. Like there was this video I saw this morning of him like pushing her in the pool, fully clothed, fully dressed. And like kind of hard. Okay. I didn't see that. his mom in front of his mom and like giggling it was just like okay I'm of two minds and I haven't watched the video so maybe if I watch them I'd have a different opinion but just like on its face here's my issue yes sometimes when you have more information you can go back and look at things in a different lens and it casts a different light on them however all of this stuff was posted on social media in the last three years all of you guys were watching it every millions of people saw it and nobody once said anything so now it's like so concerning to you whereas a year ago he pushed his fully clothed girlfriend into the pool and nobody said for one second like hey that's wrong now I didn't see the video then I didn't see it now so this is not my personal problem but um it's not like these are like super old things like everybody's been watching so now you want to like compile something and make it look a certain way and yes perhaps it is exactly that way I'm holding space for that but I'm also holding space for the fact that this is something that people do you hadn't not seen these videos and they weren't a red flag to you when you saw them so just consider that you could do that with really anything you could i know it's hard not to get caught up you could clip this show and find a bunch of moments so true of us bullying each other and saying the girls hate each other yeah no we're like always calling each other fat and ugly we really are because we because we are fat and ugly well speak for yourself i'm just i'm just fat so i'm just yeah no i know what i mean but it's hard not to get caught like swept up in the narrative like of like making stuff up as someone who hasn't watched the videos I'm not swept up in it but I could also see myself watching the videos and be like oh shit this is bad I take back what I said but it just does raise the question of like why nobody thought those videos were weird in the last three years like you're the same you still have eyes it's on the same platform like he was posting them it's not like he was caught out like this so I heard there was like videos of him filming her eating and she's obviously like doesn't want to be filmed you can tell she's just like can we eat where was anyone saying any of this when it was happening literally three weeks ago.
18:42Three weeks ago he was posting it. No, it's a factual point she brings up. So I'll leave you with that. Jury's out. It's Friday, which means we also have Queenie and Weenie. And when I tell you I'm so fucking excited for Queenie and Weenie, mine came to me yesterday and I wrote it down. And you just like, no, you're about to slay. Like I was writing it down like, that'll show them. I just want to say like you've really set the bar high for yourself now. And just to be clear, you in particular are going to, I'm going to what? Love. I'm going to look af? You're going to love. Oh, I'm really excited.
19:19So you're saying the bar will be met. Yeah, I think I'm going to be doing the uneven bars pretty much. That's what I think. Okay. I look forward to seeing that. You should. I do. Good. Because you will. Okay. Okay, well, I guess without further ado to do, would you say it is time? I would. I would for sure. For the fact, I forgot to move my Rodecaster again, so I still don't know I'm flying blind here. Yeah, no, by the way, I can tell you I have the timer. No, I, yeah, and you know what? I'm just, I'm going by how I feel. I'm trusting my body. I'm listening to my body. Yes, okay, sexy podcast today.
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23:03thefarmersdog.com slash toast. Thank you, Slash Chirt. What can I say except you're welcome? We did watch Moana as well, and I've got to see that scene. It's fresh as a daisy in my mind's eye. It's actually one of my least favorite scenes in the film. What's your favorite scene? See the light where the sky meets the sea. it calls me that's my favorite scene baby moana she's so cute she's so cute she's so cute okay our first story is some new couple news ncn kaya gerber has wasted no time and she was spotted out with lewis pullman who plays cal in lessons in chemistry he's like the crazy mad scientist oh he's from challengers he's from challengers if you've watched oh wait is he Is he?
23:58Sorry, wait. To me, he's lessons in chemistry. Yeah.
24:04Okay, how are we spelling Lewis? L-E-W-I-S. And how are we spelling Pullman? The way that it sounds. Pullman. Pullman. Pullman. Oh, I'm sorry. No, that is not from Challengers. Excuse me. I got confused. Challengers is the guy who played young Prince Charles in The Crown. Understood. I do feel like Lewis Pullman was also in The Crown in some way, but we're getting off track from the actual story. By the way, this is such like a random guy for her to date. Well, she's now spending time with Lewis Pullman. They were spotted hanging out at an L.A. restaurant. On his birthday, Lewis's father, who was also an actor, Bill Pullman, was also in attendance.
24:40Running Bill Pullman. So many things in that one sentence. One, he's a fellow Nepo baby. And I feel like on that level, they'll definitely connect. They'll have a lot in common and to talk about. Two, she's with him on his birthday. It was his 32nd birthday. so that's kind of serious and she's met the father all of this in literally four weeks since they announced their split but let's we not forget her and austin probably broke up in december if not before that um i googled the dad i don't know him and i don't think you will either but he's like a very accomplished sort of character actor he's done a lot of work for like many years on different tv shows um i'm excited for like the kaya gerber single girl era this is so unexpected like because even like her choosing austin butler like was so obvious i feel like anytime she's been spotted with someone like Pete Davidson she goes for the obvious choices um which I kind of hate like I thought I personally find that boring so her going for like this absolute rando kind of obsessed kind of obsessed I'll leave it at that I'm into this as well mostly because I love lessons in chemistry and maybe if he was like a random actor in a similar caliber show that I didn't watch like I wouldn't be as jazzed about this but because I watched lessons in chemistry and it's such a good book and such a good show it was a great show and he plays a really great character I'm just going to like assume that he's very similar to his character.
25:56Calvin. And therefore, ergo, I'm going to ship wholeheartedly. So random, but you know what this just reminded me of? I was scrolling TikTok this morning. I actually saw a bit of tea. A bit of tea? It was a clip from Watch What Happens Live. Austin Kroll was on. So it's a story leading into our Southern Charm recap because you know I didn't miss it. I'll shut my big fat mouth, sorry. You know I didn't miss Southern Charm. No, she never does. I FaceTimed her. She's like on the couch watching Southern Charm. I'm like okay I can be anywhere in the world anytime and like if Southern Charm is on I'm seriously watching with commercials but you're not gonna be anywhere in the world like you're gonna be home no but like I'm just saying the constant in my life and all different like Southern Charm has been on for a long time I've lived in many different places I've been many different people and I'll always watch it is what I'm saying that's beautiful it's a constant really back to Kaya Gerber I just can't get over like the sheer random nature of this pairing although I'm not mad at it at all I agree.
26:51If it was like an actor from a show I didn't watch, I would seriously be like clowning on this so hard right now. But he's a P-job and I feel like this will be really good for his career. He was an excellent actor in that show. I haven't seen him in anything else since then. So I don't know if it's been like, you know, maybe he lost some of the momentum and this might pick it back up. Actually, knowing that now his dad is just a working, successful actor makes me feel like he's got things figured out, like career pathwise. Like he doesn't have to be Austin Butler. And no, everybody knows my name.
27:19It's like, no, I'm going to work and I just love the craft. I'm going to make a living and I don't need to be the most famous person on the planet. Right. He was also in Top Gun Maverick. He was? So that's good. Yeah. He was obviously a couple. Lewis or Bill? Lewis. Let me look that right up. I think he's at the beginning of a blossoming career. I would hope so. I really do. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like the nerdy one who takes off his glasses and everybody realizes he's handsome. Yeah. Oh, that's cute. okay so you know what he's on his way and I feel like he's actually the opposite of Austin in the sense of like awesome is all glitz and glam like the roles even though he was in like three major pictures like the roles weren't there Lewis is not glitz and glam but like the roles are there I feel yeah I think I think what's more insulting than like your ex of many years going on to date someone so polar opposite of you like I think a lot of like girls and guys have a type and they end up dating people who are all kind of like different versions of the same person whether that's looks wise or personality wise career wise so for her to pull like a complete like three-point turn and go to this absolute random like dude yeah I wonder like what does that say about Austin I could see her and you planted this in my mind and I will blame you for it forever because it totally changed the way that I looked at Austin Butler because you were like and you said it when you said it like you had like insider information but I think tell me what I said and I'll let you know where he got it from that he's just like a really thirsty social climber and like part of his relationship with kaya is that obviously he likes her what's not to like but she is you know from a hollywood royalty family and he's like constantly climbing the ladder from like using these women vanessa and kaya like using them to leverage his own career i like i don't know where i got that idea but i agree with it and i also feel like i got that idea from you like i feel like we fed And off of each other.
29:08No, you totally brought it up. We have to go find the episode. It's live on the podcast. I had no idea what you were talking about. And ever since then, I just see him like that. It was such a good call. I could totally see him being that way. And I feel like how he treated Vanessa Ann is actually. No, I, yeah, maybe, I think it just tracks. Like he was with Vanessa Ann for 10 years. And then he, what, like, got, I don't even know why they broke up. And then he's like super successful and dating. Dating like the hottest young model. Because like that's been his trajectory. That's why I think that.
29:40Yeah. By the way, I'm not mad at you. I completely agree. So having said that, I can see Kaya like maybe over the course of their relationship like kind of like she was like starting to get like onto him, you know. And now she just wants to be so different than that because this guy, Louis Pullman, I don't know him personally, but he just doesn't give thirsty social climber vibes. Yeah. And I like that for Kaya. I do. I do as well. Plus, don't forget she's a nerd. Right, she has a book club. She actually does read a lot, for real. But she also wants you to know she's not just a model. She is a nerd, too.
30:14What is it with these six-foot-tall gazelles who are beautiful, born into wealth and fame, who are just desperate for us to know that they are also nerds? Like Kendall Jenner, of course. Kaya Gerber comes to mind. And they're always in every interview. And now they don't say it so much anymore because it's become like a cliche. People used to call it out, and it became like a whole trend. That's how the whole internet, not like other girls, thing started. The Carly Closs. yeah like I'm a nerd like I like computers and then Kendall's like no no me and my friends like we are nerds like we just love to paint and Kaya's like uh on a Saturday night like I'm kind of a nerd like you'll probably catch me like cozying up with a good book I don't know what that is and even though that it's probably true like okay you're reading like you're not a nerd not only that you're not I I don't find that admirable like if I'm Kaya Gerber if I'm Kendall Jenner if I'm Karlie Klaus, if I'm born either like so perfect looking or into like a perfect family, like with wealth and fame, like I'm a lot of things.
31:10I'm not becoming a nerd. Like you couldn't drag me back to nerd time. Like I'm becoming a coke whore. I'm becoming like a sexy slut. I'm doing all of the things that like only girls who look like that can get away with. Like, please, there are like, we are good. The nerd community is good. Like go do you. Are you a nerd? No. Because you said we are. I was speaking on behalf of a community that I like, but no, I don't identify with. Yeah, I don't identify as a nerd and I've never felt like called to. No, and I do feel bad for like nerds because I think the word has become like cringe. Yeah, yeah.
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31:47Are you ready for our next story? Are you ready for our next story? It's actually a follow-up to yesterday's story because Kiara Faragny is in the news for two major reasons. I meant to tell you about this to bring it up as a story. As we were talking about her business issues yesterday, her Instagram stories must have been expiring where she went in on the fact that she's no longer with Fidesz and what happened between them. So we were right to say that like there was something going on. And yesterday she literally just told us everything. Because there's also like an Italian podcaster slash journalist who has been like exposing this, like doing episodes.
32:23I don't know if it's like in conjunction with Chiara, but exposing Fidesz and what he's done. Yes so on Wednesday January 29th she decided to break her silence and open up like never before through her Instagram. In a series of four Instagram stories she shared what she went through during her seven-year marriage with Fidesz admitting that she tolerated quote disrespect and justified wrong behavior in the name of love. For months I chose to stay silent to protect myself and my family from two situations that have deeply affected me but I can't keep quiet anymore. I spent seven years in a relationship where I loved without limits loved even when there were so many reasons to walk away I put up with situations where I would have told any friend don't do this to yourself because to me love also meant sacrifice I kept excusing disrespect and justifying the wrong behavior to protect him to protect our family to protect our relationship because I always saw myself as the strong one the independent one the one who had to hold it all together she also admitted that she chose to stay silent to avoid the public fallout that the situation could cause what shocked people the most was the confirmation that Fidesz had been in an extramarital relationship for six of the seven years that they were married.
33:26She said - He was talking to the girl on his wedding day. Yep. He was asking the girl to like give him assurance. A reason to leave. Yeah. She said, I felt sick when I realized everything I had lived was a complete lie, but I suffered in silence. I stayed quiet because I wanted to move forward without focusing on the pain I had been through. And because I have two children who will one day hear about everything their parents say about each other and certain things will hurt them. But deciding together with his friend to make even more details public, probably as revenge for his mistress's unrequited love was truly a low blow.
33:55So apparently he called his mistress just before walking down the aisle with Chiara and asked his mistress to like give him any sort of, like tell him to run away and be with him forever. And she didn't. And so he went through marrying Chiara because also he didn't know how to kind of like call it all off. As you said yesterday, like their marriage and their wedding was the biggest story. Globally, but especially in Italy, like they are like a, I'm trying to think of like who a comparison. They're kind of like a Ben and Turdy. No, like of like Italian royalty. People fucking die for them. He's like this rapper.
34:31Obviously we don't know any of his work, but in Italy, he's like a huge people think he's so hot. They love his music. And she's just like boss, babe, bitch. Like I understand like the pressure of being like that perfect couple, but to, there's so many layers to this that are probably so deeply painful for a Kiara like one obviously that the entirety of your marriage like to have any sort of infidelity is it's devastating but from the time that you got married like from the day that it's been going on like that's really devastating but then also sort of coming to terms with the fact like you're you got married because of the unrequited nature of that affair it's like yeah your your man's mistress didn't even want him right it's not like he chose you it's just he had nowhere else to go right like by default like that's a terrible feeling I imagine yeah and what a piece of shit piece of shit I don't it's I didn't really know him before just from like the background of Kiara's stories but their their whole life seems like a seemed like a fairy tale you know and it's just it's that old adage but like it just always rings more and more true it's like you never know what is going on between two people so before you like start to envy or compare yourself or think like Like, oh, we don't look as in love as they do.
35:42And like, we don't get to do things. Just don't even, because you never, ever know. Like, this is worse than anything than like, that you might've thought was off between them. Like literally on his wedding day, he's talking to his mistress. We continue to have a six year. They have two kids and he has a girlfriend. It's so corny, but it really is the takeaway here because I'm sure there are people who watch them and just like, we're filled with envy for that type of love and life. and marriage and family and all the nice houses. And to be honest, like, no, you can, there aren't enough nice houses to keep someone in a marriage like that.
36:18Like for real. Yeah, and I guess she's only speaking out now because he has shared stuff that has like embarrassed her. That's what she said in her post. Cause I understand why she, I mean, she seems like the tough to, the type to just like - Tough it. Tough it out, do it for her kids. And then even when they break up to not say anything like for her kids. um but this is far like they're so far gone in terms of like keeping the veil over yeah no and this is something I personally struggle with and maybe like I'll understand it more or feel differently like when I'm blessed one day with a child but like I get so mad when people are like protecting their like it's he's the father of my child I don't give a fuck he's a dick like everybody needs to know in celebrity world yes I get it like there there's different things like there are just people who split up because they're growing apart they don't get along they don't respect each other they can't communicate and there's slights here and there and then like those people usually don't go and tell every every fight that they ever had with their husband because that's just like personal people's business but then there are things that are so egregious that that are going to come out anyway that it's better for you to live in like it's out there you know yeah and for you to just be able to like move on from it so I understand if she never wanted to mention it but I think that you know that chip has sailed in terms of like keeping the lid on it yeah and when it's just like typical irreconcilable differences or whatever like no we don't need to know I know you want to know the business but like we can guess like you guys just don't like each other anymore if it's boring like sure but when there's like big drama I'm sure everyone's like fights are drama but it's like standard yeah you know this is just like so fucking crazy yeah yeah because I think anybody but they were like two people who were really individually famous but together as a couple that's also hard like when you get more attention as a couple so you want to stay together more but the relationship's not working out but you don't want to give up all the opportunity and they're two people who were like definitely both individually really famous but like somebody who lives in a different country like I heard about them so much as a couple more as a couple than ever individually yeah they remind me a little bit of Molly May and Tommy except they're even bigger because they came from two different worlds and fused together like a rock star and Italy's number one influencer like bar none Molly and Tommy came up together really so their fans were always the same but you had like these two huge fan bases for Chiara but it is the perfect comparison yeah yeah and then when they break up except for molly and tommy i think most of the time it was a fairy tale and that's what she was saying it's not like they weren't in love it's not like there was infidelity it was just big smoke and mirrors like the whole time there was just other stuff going on and i think they will end up back together if if they're not already which seems as though they are so it's not totally comparable but yeah this is really shocking and really sad and she seems so tough also i remember like her other relationship before this which was like long term and serious and he was like her business partner I think and he like totally stole her business like she was like fighting for years to get her like name back the blonde salad Kiara like in litigation for years like every relationship has been a nightmare for this girl oh my god that's so strange yeah well it's just important to remember that key takeaway here like especially when it comes to like internet stuff and nothing is what it seems.
39:40Right. Don't compare yourself to other people, really. Really. It's true. Yeah. Your life is fab. Yeah. It's yours. Just the way you are. Are you ready for our next story? Number three? Yeah. Yeah. Because it is some Grammys news. This is our last episode before the Grammys. Woohoo. Oh, right. What are they on Sunday? They are on Sunday and we have performers and presenters. Presenters. and notably tailored is presenting at the grammy so that has everyone in a tizzy which like isn't crazy but it's more so a confirmation of her attendance which you know she does usually go especially when she's nominated for album of the year but who knows these days like what she's up to with the super bowl right but i think she could pop into the grammys and i think she'll give out album of the year because she won last year that feels right she can't give it out she's nominated what is she nominated for give tortured poets are you okay i thought she won for tortured poets last year did she win for album of the year last year for midnight yeah she yes she's won for midnight she won for um the last year she won for midnight was that last year yeah i'm sorry that's why i'm like she's wearing her tortured poets dress and she won album of the right i just assume oh my god so maybe she won't announce no she won't announce album of the year oh so she'll just announce like joe schmo whatever yeah like probably new artist maybe to sabrina that's probably the only category she's not nominated for this year right 2024 winner was let me just make sure i'm saying this correct yeah taylor swift yeah yeah that's crazy that she releases like like an album a year now yeah okay so this is the year of the stacked album of the year because yes brat short and sweet um taylor tortured poets beyonce cowboy carter yep so that will be interesting and then here are the performers okay and then also do you think travis is going like the timeline does line up because it is a bye week it's the pro bowl so people who play in the super bowl are not playing a game although i imagine you're under rigorous training and practice schedules i i would love to see him i don't think he's going and i don't think he should go i think like for the team like these two weeks before the super bowl like we are drilled in it's true and it just like sends a bad message and message i don't think and i also i feel like there have been other times where it's like taylor's big night and travis should be her side And for their first red carpet appearance, I don't think this one is it.
42:03What would it be? Watch. And then, I mean, like, not that they were ready then, but, like, the Eras Tour movie sort of thing. Yeah, like, her own project. Yeah. Even last Grammys, it felt more palpable that they could show up together. This just, he's literally playing in the Super Bowl. Yeah, of course, of course, of course. I would actually, like, I would find it weird if he goes. Okay, okay. And, like, I feel like because I'm being so adamant about it, he's gonna go. They're gonna go, yeah. So you're welcome. um performers billy eilish chapel roan sabrina can't wait to see her up there shaking that thing charlie xcx that'll be interesting to see how she stacks up comparatively yeah yeah it will i don't know why i just feel like the whole brat era is like now i'm like a conspiracy theorist word on brat no not soured but because i think like some of the songs are definitely good but i feel like Like, it was overhyped, like, in my, like, not even in my mind.
43:00Like, somebody overhyped it to me. Yeah. And I don't even know, like, what kind of performer is she? Well, I saw her perform on SNL, and it was really terrible. So I hope she's doing something else. Cool. Switching it up. Yeah. Stevie Wonder, classic. Obsessed. Shakira, go off. Oh, baby, when you talk like that. John Legend. Okay. Cynthia Erivo. Obsessed. She just sent me from Wicked? I don't know. I'm sure I could, like, maybe because Wicked maybe is nominated for soundtrack or something. But Grammys doesn't do anything movies. I know. But they should do soundtrack, like, movie song. I feel like Cynthia Erivo could be tapped to do, like, either during the In Memoriam.
43:43They always just need someone with a pardy voice. Yeah. Or if they're going to do, like, a tribute to somebody who passed away this year. Yeah. They just are always tapping, like, true talents for that. Yeah. Chris Martin in Coldplay. Okay. Okay. It's a cold play. Cold play. Why did they say it like that? What is he special? Because they just like were showing pictures of each celebrity. And so like they wanted to show Chris Martin. Janelle Monae. Okay. Benson Boone. Oh, he's good. He is, but I have to say something. What? That song is really good. So if you don't know who Benson Boone is, like it's totally normal.
44:18But you probably do know the song. These beautiful things that I got. Please. And so it's a really good song. and it was like having a huge year. Okay, now, maybe I take back what I'm going to say. Never mind. Okay. Because you don't stand by it or because you just don't want to go there? Well, because someone would say, well, Claudia, you don't feel that way about Shibuzi. Because if you said Shibuzi was performing at the Grammys this year, I'm like, good, he showed you the song of the year. But it's like this Benson character is just everywhere. And you have one song. It's the same way I feel about Dasha.
44:50But for some reason, when it's Shibuzi, it doesn't bother me. Oh, Dasha. Dasha is did your boots So I feel like maybe Shibuzzi doesn't bother you because I can confirm like he has a whole album full of bops and like he is that guy I'm sure that these other people like have other like songs on their album that I just don't know and I don't think a lot of people know like I dare one person to name another Dasha song besides Austin and same for Benson Boone and I'm sure most people couldn't name another Shibuzzi song honestly So Benson Boone going all these places because he has one song doesn't bother me because I feel like I've heard some of his other stuff just like on shuffle and he's just like really talented and I wish good things for him.
45:25Other people who have one song and it's just the one song over and over again and I just don't feel like they have a second act coming up, it's annoying. So I agree with that. So that's how I feel about Benson Boone. But like Benson Boone is filling the Lewis Capaldi-shaped hole in my heart. Do you listen to that TikToker? Alex Warren, I think his name is. Carry You Home? Yeah, so he is like an OG Hype House member. He was like a part of a couple that was like a TikToki couple. I think they're married now. And he started releasing music and everyone's like, okay, good luck with your little project.
45:56And he has released such amazing music and he's getting so much hype. I think his songs do incredibly well. He just did a, they, he released another version of one of his popular songs and Joe Jonas is on it. Like he's really making waves and he is a very, not only does he sound like Lewis Cavalty, he looks like him too. Let me tell you, I didn't know any of that backstory about him, that he's a TikToker or anything. I listen to his music because it comes up on my Spotify because that's the kind of music I like and he's up there with Benson Boone like to me they're the same person in terms of like where they came from which is just Spotify release right Jackie did you ever watch the Hype House Netflix show I think I believe he's a character on it him and his girlfriend shockingly I know this is gonna really surprise everyone I never watched the Netflix Hype House show oh you were missing out that was so good but okay so I'm glad to know that I'm actually glad that I was introduced to him without knowing that because like to me he's just a serious artist do you know this song you knew the house was burning down i had to get out that's also the one joe jonas hopped on you will love a margo really put me on margo started streaming him i'm like margo are you really streaming that tiktoker guy she was a claudia the music stands out like it stands on its own no i was like okay he has made it to my liked songs i can't believe that you like know him not even having anything to do with TikTok.
47:15That's crazy. Literally like five songs a month make it to my like songs and I listen to my like songs. Yeah. Headlights. Yeah. That's on my like songs. Is there one that's called like The House Was Burning Down or something? I'll find it. It's not on my like songs but maybe I should add it. I will add it. No, you should add it. It's a really pargy song. It is called Burning Down. That's the one. And Burning Down with Joe Jonas. Ooh, which way do I go? Go with the OG first and then you'll dip your toe into the special effects. Okay, sounds good. Oh, did you see Rascal Flatts' Jonas Brothers Q Lab dropped today?
47:48I did. I was about to listen to it, but I was listening to the new Morgan Wallen song that dropped and then I got distracted. But then this conversation reminded me, Rascal Flatts. It's kind of a good season of music right now. Yeah, I know. I'm really excited. I have high hopes for this Rascal Flatts collab. I haven't listened to it yet, but if it's bad, I'll be pissed. I'll just blame the Jonas Brothers, so it's fine. that's actually like a really kind of foolproof plan right like yep and it's not rascal's fault no if it's great like that's for damn sure rascal gets the credit but if it's bad right the drums brothers uh thousand percent um do you want to know more grammys performers oh i thought we were done sorry yeah no i'll go quickly dochi teddy swims jacob collier Brad Paisley Ray Okay we could have stopped Lainey Wilson Cheryl Crow St.
48:38Vincent Brittany Howard Herbie Hancock That's a lot Great I'm sure some of them will be like doing something together but that's a lot of performers Yeah Yeah Like not that many exciting ones actually I agree We're all said and done Yeah It all comes out in the wash We're left with like Cynthia Erivo Sabrina And Sabrina Hearts up for Sabrina And maybe Maybe there will be a surprise performer like Beyonce or something. You know? I feel like that could happen. I actually, I wouldn't count on it. Or tailored. I wonder if Beyonce's going to go. Why wouldn't Taylor perform? She, like, doesn't really.
49:12The last time she performed was the Folklore Willow era, which was, like, one of her most iconic performances of all time. But she, like, she doesn't, she's, when she's nominated, she's pretty much guaranteed to show up. She usually shows up, but not perform. Okay. and I don't think Beyonce will perform either only because I think like odds wise I don't think she has a high likelihood of taking home a lot of awards this year like I don't think it's her year I was actually just reading an article about Beyonce and album of the year and like all the times that she was nominated and didn't win and in there is like one true snub that she should have won that year I am Sasha Fierce the um no I think it was called Beyonce it was like the self-titled album and it was the year that Beck won and like I'm sorry who is Beck in this world like not to offend everyone.
49:57I actually remember like being socially conscious for that year where Beck won over Beyonce and the internet was so mad and it was like we'll see in five years like if anybody knows who Beck is and we don't. No and like I'm sure the internet was mad and at the time like I'm sure Beck's album like was really good but like those Beyonce like that was a more prevalent album and carried on but then the other time she lost was to Taylor Swift Fearless which yep like adele stood the test of time adele 25 withstood the test of time and then what was the other one or maybe it was just three and and no but it's not even so much about the album it's about the other nominees too yeah yeah and like the other two times that she should have won like was just stacked categories this year is also a stacked category and i don't think cowboy carter is even as album of the year worthy as I Am Sasha Fierce Lemonade or Beyonce was.
50:53Yeah, I agree. I don't think it's her year. So I don't even know if she's confirmed to show up and I don't think she's going to perform. She's like, I'm not going to waste my talent on you bitches. But you don't think that they might give her album of the year because like Jay-Z like read them to filth in his speech last year? No, I don't think they would want to like indulge that behavior. Also, who is Jay-Z in this world in this moment? Like his social cachet has gone down severely since he was accused, just accused of allegedly you know assaulting a 13 year old so like personally I don't negotiate with with people like that you know yeah I just feel like I don't know I feel like they might want to just finally give it to her and then here she is nominated even though this wouldn't be the year no it's there's too many it's chapel Sabrina there's too many in that category and for me it's Sabrina 1000 I actually had a dream about Sabrina last night I was listening to short and sweet in my head and while I slept more than tortured poets for you no like tortured poets so for you it's tortured poets yeah and I actually do think she'll win okay well we'll see on Sunday and we'll see on Monday because I didn't think midnights was gonna win and if she didn't like I wasn't gonna riot you know like it was a stacked year last year like I I think that this year like is a year I would riot you know if you're if like on the scale of rioting I would riot yeah there would be a riot Breaking up my heart, I try to fight it I could go out every night, but I'd be lying And that's what we said, Rascal Flatts has never made a bad song, so if the collab is bad, like Jackie said, it's the Jonas Brothers' fault.
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54:07And now this body mean like inappropriate and risque risque. And now this person doesn't talk to her anymore. So I was like, like without knowing who that is, that is so it's an uninteresting story. What the speech is like, whatever. So the A-list actress who doesn't talk to Reese Witherspoon anymore has seemingly been identified, including the speech that she speech. Let me guess. Let me guess. Let me guess. i don't know how you could guess samuel blair no and it's kind of the speech is from a while ago so like before your before like we were paying attention earlier this week reese witherspoon said in an interview that a fellow hollywood star allegedly ended their friendship after she called out their idea to get laser hair removal while presenting her with an award for the sake of privacy reese refused to name drop the actress during the candid chat however after some sleuthing just jared has reported that the thank you jakey jared thank you jared the mysterious celebrity Reese was referring to was Kate Winslet.
55:05So during the 2007 BAFTA LA Cunard Britannia Awards, classic. How did I miss that? Reese presented Kate Winslet with the prestigious artist of the year award. So Kate had asked her to do the speech to present. Oh, so they were really tight. Like you ask someone you're like low key fucking with to do that. Right. While standing in front of an audience to present the star, Reese kicked off her speech by saying I always wanted to be a European movie star wear giant sunglasses elaborate neck scarves smoke hand rolled cigarettes and have savoir faire and gravitas imagine my good fortune when Kate Winslet moved into my neighborhood rang my doorbell and said darling Sam is off shooting and I believe our children are the same age could they possibly have a play date and oh by the way it's almost 9 o 'clock and I've had nothing to drink do you have any wine during her speech Reese praised Kate Winslet for her fearlessness however she also called her out for peeing all over herself in front of Harvey Keitel in Holy Smoke.
56:01She further pointed out that she wanted to tell more of their stories but couldn't because they were too bawdy or toddy or drunken to tell, including the time they contemplated laser hair removal. The revelation comes just one day after Reese called losing a friend for roasting her in a speech while presenting her with an award. Reese said this literally haunts her to this day. She said, so this friend of mine who I didn't really know that well, but she was a very serious proper actress, she asked me to give her an award because Reese had never been to that particular award ceremony she thought it was like a roast so I got up and I roasted her before pointing out that the tone of the gala was British and elegant elegant and classy oh my god okay because at first I was like oh so lame of Kate Winslet and then the more you told the story I'm like wait Reese Witherspoon is the villain in this story like that's really inappropriate um and so the fact that she looks back on it now like with the self-awareness to be like no I was wrong for that I'm glad she wasn't like trying to throw Kate Winslet under the bus she's throwing herself under the bus and that's really funny and I would love for these two to reconnect like obviously Reese knows what she did wrong she has listened and learned oh my I just went on such a journey while I'm listening I'm like how am I gonna defend Reese like she sounds like a bitch no I feel like she what is this 15 years on has realized like she was wrong it literally gives her a pit like sometimes you just like misread a situation you do the wrong thing like people I feel like that happens a lot at like weddings you know if you're asked to give a speech about someone and sometimes people like bring up inappropriate stuff and like they just like misread it and I know sometimes like that stuff kills and there is a line but it's so hard to know where that line is so I feel like this is a very actually relatable thing of like making a speech for someone and they did not like and if you didn't have like the strongest relationship beforehand like I wouldn't want to be friends why bother pursuing yeah I but I um I do like this little window into how these two became friends yeah like literally just knocking on your door being like we have kids the same age like obviously they knew who each other was like on a professional basis um like to be famous and wealthy you know yeah but then you have like at least with you if it's you're talking at your friend's wedding and you fuck up like okay it happened right this i need to see this speech for sure like see kate's reaction when she walks up yeah but the thing that she said before the armpit thing was worse peeing herself peeing right yeah and just like talking about all the drunken antics yeah i would also stop being friends with that person for what it's worth like on a global on a global stage i think i would too especially if it was a new friend i'd be like oh this person can't be trusted they obviously have like bad instincts and yeah they don't know like what's for the private especially like when you're a public person like a lot of things probably need to be kept for the private and you need somebody who's gut instinct like knows when to talk and want to shut up so i'm sure that was like a learning moment for reese i have no ill will against reese for this like i i feel sympathy for her um sometimes you have to learn a lesson the hard way yeah i agree and she's a better woman now because of this yeah so funny i'm glad we figured out who it was me too because these like stories where we're all just like endlessly guessing and there's no way to know who it truly is like i find boring but the james van der beek story that last week we pretty much figured out and now Kate Winslet love no and without knowing who the celebrity was and what the speech was we would have been like oh who in Hollywood has a stick up their butt that they didn't like Reese Witherspoon's speech yeah our fifth and final story leading into our tv recap is Austin yeah is Austin Kroll revealing um his thoughts on the rumors that Paige is with another guy.
59:38So Austin and Patricia were on Watch What Happens Live last night and they were asked a lot about the breakup. Austin confirmed that Paige has allegedly moved on with another guy when a caller asked what he thinks about the rumors that she's with this guy and he said I don't think that those are rumors. I think that they've been substantiated. He confirmed that Craig knows as such and he explained you know he didn't for a minute but yeah I think he's fully come to terms with that that that's not a rumor and then Andy was like wow okay meanwhile Paige then commented on an Instagram video of this moment saying ah yes a man I haven't spoken to in six months knows exactly what I'm doing right so at first I was like oh this clip is sad like because I actually don't know if Paige has moved on there was like a lot of hoopla around that Eagles game but she hasn't it's not official and there was like so many fake rumors about her with Marcello so like seriously I don't know like I genuinely don't know but I was just like okay maybe she is seeing that guy yeah and and then austin being like yeah we've kind of like come to terms with the fact that like it's not a rumor like she's just dating someone and that's hard and we're like figuring it out and he was kind of speaking on behalf of craig and i was like oh sad and then i was just like scrolling the comments on tiktok this morning and i saw page at the top i was like oh shit so is that her saying she's not dating anyone i think it's just her saying i'm sure there's like a more to this story whether it was like a first date i feel like also maybe austin is trying to make it seem like she's has a boyfriend which she probably doesn't and i feel like there's just always more color that can be added so like him speaking on something about a person that he doesn't talk to yeah and hasn't spoken to like what do you really know and that's annoying like for page if she hasn't spoken out about her dating life and like this her ex's like random friend who she's not friends with like talking about it's like stop and who she's always had beef with because of Sierra and even right even this season of Southern Charm Craig and Paige are together and Craig is having beef with Austin and every time Paige is there she's like telling Craig like just cut this guy out like you know move on with the podcast like obviously they didn't even get along in good times so for him to be the one speaking on her in bad times it's like you don't what do you know no she's right for that yeah I agree with that and a little bit of southern charm recap so last night the boys are reuniting this season is really centered on austin and craig the girls are fighting but they have this podcast pillows and beer they do it twice a week and it's like based on their friendship but they are not really friends right now because craig just kind of wants to like sit home and knit and be in his backyard and settle down buddy where you at and it's it's hard to call it because now knowing that page and Craig have broken up and I feel like in the season Craig is making a lot of these decisions because he's in a serious relationship with Paige and he doesn't go out because like he spends his time they're the right decisions for him in that moment right and now and now I think viewers are quick to say well oh he was doing all that because of Paige and now that they're broken up he was wrong and like I don't think he's wrong for wanting me neither be in a more mature phase of his life Like the way that the men on Southern Charm live and act.
1:02:42The man? Men. You said man. I think I said men. It was giving woman. I'll have to watch that back. Yeah, thank God we're recording. Yeah, that's like Cody Simpson performing at the CMAs. Which I'm still waiting for. The way that the men on Southern Charm live and act is not something that should be modeled whatsoever. Agreed. So if Craig wants to like break free from that mold in a very serious way, I am so supportive of it. Like they seriously need to grow up. So I don't think it's fair to just be like, well, now I'm sure Craig's crawling back to his friends. Like he's allowed to want to live like a more serious lifestyle, take his work seriously and whatnot.
1:03:22But Austin is just, you know, casual buddy looking for his friends. And I just feel like they need to make up like this is stupid. Craig offered to pay him$30 ,000 to leave the podcast and like give it to him. wait who Austin offered Craig or Craig offered Austin Craig offered Austin just to basically like buy the rights yeah because it's been hard to like do the podcast together when they're not friends and the show is about their friendship he said like Austin always just shows up like hungover Craig does all the like work for it anyway so can you just like give it to me okay it's giving Sophia and Alex like yeah it really is except they're guys and like just the things that just like roll off their back like literally one minute they are laughing and the next minute they are fighting and also like crying about their hurt feelings.
1:04:01It's shocking. I hope that they work it out though. Like I like all of their friendships, but they do need to find their new normal. And maybe that does change again now that Craig is single, but still he doesn't want to be getting the bars. Well, it sounds like based on Austin on Watch What Happens Live, like it sounds like they're like close again. Yeah, which is nice. He'll need his friends now. But I don't want Craig to revert to that lifestyle. I don't think so. But Austin's now in a serious relationship. So good. Yeah. then the other crazy thing that happened is JT I've been telling you like JT is just a ticking time bomb on this show yeah and I just also learned that he put out an Instagram story statement saying that he has left the show in post-production oh so you know something bad is coming because he said they wanted to do more like on-camera interviews he said he's filmed already like 10 this season and he won't be doing the rest and he is leaving the show this season has been like really bad for JT self like he just comes up looking so bad and like one thing that he always had he has this like blossoming relationship with vanita and they're like really cute and they go shopping and and she texts his mom and they like get along friendship or like friendship that is flirtatious so like okay it looks like it's headed somewhere and so last night on the episode she like invites him over for dinner cooks for him she's about like gonna tell him how she feels she's like when i like someone like i want i want to tell them how i feel and like make it really easy for them like here's yep this is like here's a brand zino i like you like let's let's show mature and even last on last week's episode they have like this weird conversation when JT stormed out of the party and he's like saying that like oh Vanita I love you and like it was just like are you guys about to kiss that's literally how I felt are you guys about to kiss so then like this week they're about to talk about their feelings and she like says that she likes him and he says I'm seeing someone that's weird weird that you would flirt with like Vanita and make her feel this way when you're seeing someone that Vanita Vanita said that she knew that he was talking to someone but not that it was like in a stage where the door was serious and now it just feels like so clear that he was kind of like using vanita she was the last person on the show who like really had a soft spot for him and i feel like he was flirting with her and just like being really yeah because i'm sorry like as evolved as we are like two straight different gendered people becoming best friends like is not normal yeah and they're like new friends too it's not like you're like brother and sister from growing up so they're being like romantic undertones is very like normal and real and him pretending like what I hate yeah and then it was just it's also weird for his new relationship because it was like Vanita was like if I was the other girl and he's been talking to me the way that he is and that he's even sitting on my couch having a conversation and JT is saying like I do like like you and I feel the chemistry but I'm seeing someone it's like even saying that to someone when you're seeing someone like he's He's talked all around.
1:06:45He's Burn Bridges with Madison, with Austin, now Craig, Sally, Taylor, everyone. So at a certain point, how could he even be on this show? Like he has no friends left. But it was just like, if more people watched Southern Charm, he would be my weenie of the week because it was the biggest weenie moment. It was so, it was so crazy. Like you really thought they were about to kiss on the couch. And I was like, but you made fish. I'm sad for Vanita. It was, no, I'm happy for her because she seriously is dodgy bullet. Yeah, well, for sure. Anyways, that's what's new in Charleston. And I'm telling you, things between Molly and Shep continue to bubble.
1:07:24By the way, after you said that last week, a lot of people in the comments and, like, on our pages were commenting that they echoed your statement. Like, it's, like, this obvious thing. You're not the only one who sees it. Right. So they flashed back to last week when they were watching Molly's concert on her tuba. One of the cast members, like, said to, sorry that I can't remember his name. he's always on the show and like he just can't remember sorry um he said sorry to this man he told Shep that Molly had told him that he has feelings that she has feelings for Shep but like in a sweet way and like Shep was like oh okay and then this week things are starting to go south with Shep and his 26 year old uh Bahamian model girlfriend because not only did she like ghost him for three days but Patricia by the way growing up is having a newfound appreciation for Patricia Patricia told Madison that before Sierra started dating Shep she was hitting up Whitney oh although I don't really trust any information that comes from Whitney I think he's the devil I don't know but the thing is Whitney and Patricia was like Whitney will kill me that I said this because he I because I told Whitney you have to tell Shep and Whitney was like no no no like Whitney actually doesn't want to be in the drama anymore like for real um but then Patricia just had to share this, but I think it's becoming clear that Sierra really wanted to be on the show.
1:08:42Yeah, yeah. And doesn't really care about Shep. Well, there's always Molly. As one ship is sailing, Door closes. Another one might be coming into port. So we shall see. That's beautiful. Let's do Queenie and Weenie of the Week. A great way to wrap up the week. It's been a fabulous week here, you guys. Jackie and I, every Friday, like to do a little game that we call Weenie of the Week and Queenie of the Week where we give out an award to two different people. Someone who acted like a Queenie this week and somebody who acted like a weenie this week, just know it's all fun and games. You can be Queenie one week, weenie the next.
1:09:12It's a seven-day title and it's not that serious. So would you like to do Queenie or weenie first? We will do Queenie first as we always do. I'll go first because yours is so amazing that I don't want to be upended. But my Queenie of the week is the obvious Queenie in the room with us, which is our new studio. Of course, of course. Toast, what era is this? Like 4.0 is my Queenie. Are we counting the breath? Yeah. Yeah. So the breath and then the pink with the thrones. Then the apartment we were evicted out of. Then, honestly, then the studio where we were both in it together. Yeah, and then remote.
1:09:47And then remote. And then this. I'm sorry, I lost count. Was that six or seven? Your finger was at seven. Yeah, I know, but I forgot about my thumb. Start again. Breath, pink with the thrones. Apartment we got kicked out of. Studio we were in together. Remote. Studio we were in remote. This one, six. Toe 6.0. I love that. I love. Mine's actually not dissimilar, but it's a little bit more specific. Obviously, the studio is the Queenie of the Week, but I think that in the face of such judgment and adversity, our frames have really acted with such Queenie-like elegance. Yeah. Everybody, you're ugly, you're ugly, you're ugly.
1:10:31You're making me dizzy, you're making me dizzy. And they have just stood behind us giving us such support. giving us like such pardy vibes. And the thing is, Jackie and I were talking about this last night, like we will never, ever remove these frames. Like you don't understand. The frames are a symbol of us not being able to be told what to do. Not only that, they're a symbol of our perseverance. People are always telling us, you suck, you suck. And we just stand tall and we do our jobs. These frames, people are like, why are the frames empty? Because it's us. We are the frames. This is Jackie and this is Claudia.
1:11:02And in the face of such judgment, such bigotry this week against our frames they have done nothing but stand by our side and that's what a queenie does it's so true and what I also love about the frames I was thinking um yesterday is there actually an homage to our first toe studio remember those chairs the gilded chairs yep and there we brought in a touch of our herstory like what we're just gonna sit in front of like this wallpaper and these part like we look like every other podcast like we need our frames like We are us. Yeah. And the thing is, is like, talk, talk, talk. Talk, talk, talk about the frames.
1:11:38They're not going anywhere much like us. Okay. That's what I'm saying. Did I overheat my queenie? And like keep rattling them off. Keep saying. Keep making them famous. Keep, they're not going anywhere. Did I overheat my queenie or no? No, you didn't. But we actually, I teed you up really nicely. Yeah. I was worried that maybe you were going to like talk about the frames before I could. no I wasn't going to talk about the frames because like much like the frames I was I was above it yeah of course but much like the frames sometimes I have to get down in the muck that's what I've been saying now weenie of the week my weenie of the week is a man by the name of Dexter Morgan um I think that the Gracie Abrams fandom writing it making a petition I'm always talking about how toxic stand culture can be and like this is the perfect example it's such crazy truly mentally ill behavior it's embarrassing the fact that it got to gracie is even more embarrassing um and that's just weenie like behavior honestly the people who created i don't know their real names but it was definitely like a group of three people who like thought they were like really about to slay the people who made that petition weenie majorly weenie like behavior my weenie of the week very um very innocuous yet upsetting and something that has stayed with me is that Jojo swiped left for Raymond on Raya.
1:12:58Girl, what are you doing? Seriously, what are you doing? Like, we, there has to be more to this story because, well, you just really thought the moment had passed. Like, no, this would be the greatest love story ever told. The greatest love story this town had ever seen. So, until I get a better reason, that's my weenie. I love that. That's our show. What a great week, Jax. First week in the new studio. as always done and dusted I feel like every day we got so much better closer we're making so much progress every single day with our lighting with our audio with our video I feel like we're at a really good place I feel like yesterday's episode was the first one we like actually really nailed that was the best it ever went it was the best it ever went so hopefully this episode just has the same exact trajectory I want nothing different please thank you guys so much for listening to the Toast the Millennium Morning Show where we deliver the fast-life stories you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube so if you're watching us on YouTube please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up we're also available as podcast and where podcasts can be found so that's Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, iHeartRadio, CastBox, all the places where you listen to podcasts, find us a toast.
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