Whoopi Was Robbed: Tuesday, May 12th, 2026

9:23Jackie Oshry:I see you. I hear you. As always, the DTQ. I am your vessel. And I am your messenger. And I will. I will make it right. Good.

9:31Claudia Oshry:We actually have so many stories today. I have to sort of, like, organize them because it's definitely more than five. And the leftovers from yesterday didn't make the cut for sure. What was it?

9:40Jackie Oshry:Like, what was left over? roles oh you know people really did want to hear your take about that i know oh mine yeah why me specifically because you're like a smart fun interesting person with a podcast like is that

9:52Claudia Oshry:okay yeah yeah sure happy happy to oblige um my take is like he he wants to get backlash like no person in their right mind right goes on a rant like that that is like textbook what info what you can say polarizing yeah like he wants all of this this is like maybe things were a little quiet on the james charles charles front do i have to have him on namesake

10:20Jackie Oshry:james charles james oh charles i guess sorry last names don't count i guess like i could

10:26Claudia Oshry:have him on namesake if i wanted to you know who we have to have on namesake

10:34Claudia Oshry:who charles from younger oh david ushry you guys when we were in high school

10:43Jackie Oshry:there was you know in every yellow cab there was a taxi tv and it would play like the same four clips and one of the guys he's like a local news correspondent who obviously got demoted to the taxi TV segment. His name is David Ushery. U-S-H-E-R-Y. And he was always like, hey there in the backseat of the taxi, I'm David Ushery. And it was like, is that my brother? Like, it was insane. We will definitely have him on the namesake. What?

11:07Claudia Oshry:Yeah.

11:08Jackie Oshry:I wonder what he's up to.

11:08Claudia Oshry:He's the local reporter. He's definitely crushing it.

11:10Jackie Oshry:I actually think he's risen the ranks quite a bit. And he's like a big local NBC correspondent.

11:15Claudia Oshry:We're always rooting for him.

11:17Jackie Oshry:I'm always rooting for David Ushery and Sade Beterinoise. And Sandy Kenyon. why Sandy Kenyon is like a toaster yeah no actually I take it back I love Sandy Kenyon

11:27Claudia Oshry:um but back to James I'm Sandy Kenyon with the eyewitness news movie minute James Charles like wants this to be happening so all of it to me seems completely like fake because so for anyone

11:37Jackie Oshry:who's unfamiliar he went on a rant on tiktok over the weekend just basically like talking about this message he got somebody being like can you donate to my gofundme and it was like a person who didn't

11:44Claudia Oshry:follow him someone who got like laid off from spirit airlines abruptly when they went McCullough last week.

11:49Jackie Oshry:Kaput. And he just did this insane fucking rant on why it's influencers' responsibilities to donate to GoFundMes and you don't even follow me and it's like Spirit Airlines, get your shit together and go get a job. It was the type of thing you think but you don't ever say.

12:04Claudia Oshry:Like ever. He has been an influencer for over a decade. For so long. He knows that that is a one-way ticket to backlash cancellation bill. And I think he wanted a trip there because it is exciting and fun to get on the ride sometimes and it does like sort we're all talking about it's exciting and fun but

12:22Jackie Oshry:it is an indicator of success like yeah people who have real followings get backlash it's like a signal that you are you know have an impact that you have influence if you're shouting into a void there's no backlash because no one's listening so it is sort of like a rite of passage i think he

12:35Claudia Oshry:was just doing like a gut check are people still listening to me great great i like i actually am not gonna like opine on what he meant and whether there was merit because he's baiting all of you and not me. What did you think about it?

12:52Jackie Oshry:I agree a thousand percent. You like what? Why on earth would you say that? I just want to say, I do think there's one thing that he said that had merit. Just one. If you are going to send your GoFundMe, which you absolutely should to influencers, like it's a huge opportunity. Like you should just follow them. Like, right.

13:07Claudia Oshry:Just as a courtesy, you know? It's just, and also it helps your chances. Absolutely. Of getting that donation. And getting the donation.

13:15Jackie Oshry:It's not even the donation so much as like the platform.

13:18Claudia Oshry:well it helps your chances of like the visibility within the platform but also like your influencer might want to do you a solid like if they think that you're a fan of theirs that would help and I just want to say there is a lot of and I don't want to like you know

13:31Jackie Oshry:I don't want to get canceled for James Charles's crimes but there is a fair amount of scamming that goes on on GoFundMe so when you are a person with a platform you do have to be really careful about which ones you post yeah it happens a lot yeah I would say the majority of GoFundMe's are like good honest things but you just gotta be careful yeah yeah there's a lot of things you

13:49Claudia Oshry:know the internet's a crazy place you don't know this you're telling me you don't know this account did this account make yesterday like you just don't know so yeah just sort of i don't know hey i think just do your best i think he knew what he was doing so like oh yeah james charles is far too seasoned this is a rookie rookie rant yeah rookie rookie of the year rant speaking of Brookies. Are you ready for our Fast Five Stories?

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18:34Claudia Oshry:with code toast at liquidiv.com thank you turt iv you're welcome turt iv why do people want to hear me talk about james charles because they thought i was going to agree with him oh i don't know i

18:47Jackie Oshry:just like i thought people wanted to hear you talk about it that's funny no i did i thought

18:50Claudia Oshry:like i saw that people wanted us to talk about but now i'm like why they thought i was going to go

18:53Jackie Oshry:hard i'm cracking up no maybe they thought you were gonna agree with him for sure for sure um

18:59Claudia Oshry:okay first up sports illustrated 2026 cover models have been announced we have four covers hillary duff alex earl nicole williams english and tiffany haddish so i have so many thoughts

19:12Jackie Oshry:like obviously as alex earl's like literary number one fan and as of most recently like her inspiration um I love this I do want to say and this is zero zero like sight against Alex Earl is it such an obvious choice and I remember like a year or two ago when they first like had her on the digital cover and like they should have been brave and like taken a chance on a young influencer then because now it's like well yeah obviously you know yeah and I feel like for always I mean I have to just forget this idea of sorts illustrated that I have in my head because at one point like it was the maker and breaker of things and now they're just like up with trends like what's cool now when like you know the plus size movement was in they were doing plus size

19:50Claudia Oshry:hillary duff is on a tour so we'll put her on the cover even though last year she would never been considered because she's like not doing press like yeah it's just so pr i remember when

19:58Jackie Oshry:both zandra and alex earl had gotten plucked i think two years ago it was such a big deal and it would have been such a risk and like a bit like a statement if they had chosen alex and i actually remember saying that she should be on the cover and then like a few months later they put on the digital cover so it's like they had to work up to it and i just feel like they're not taking chances like i i like they're not making bold moves like whoopi goldberg would have been a bold move correct i have zero literally zero issue with any of these choices i'm just like not inspired and i actually think some of the pictures are not good like i think they kind of did hillary deaf dirty she's like her neck looks broken yeah and it's yeah there's a difference

20:34Claudia Oshry:between like what looks like like high editorial um when you look at the covers versus like oh i'm on vacation and I and I took a picture and we've had that issue in the past yes by the way what you just said is brilliant oh it's good because these days with a g7x like I could take these pictures yeah like I'm all these influencers yeah I want to say covers wise I think Alex Earl's cover

20:55Jackie Oshry:is unreal let me look at them all together I do want to say I didn't know that um Tiffany Haddish was rocking a body like that you know what I mean that's why I like it's always good to like learn

21:05Claudia Oshry:of a new body beautiful body yeah like when they did Salma Hayek yeah uh I guess she's the Salma

21:15Jackie Oshry:of this year why are you saying it like that like I was gonna let it slide the first time I really

21:20Claudia Oshry:was Salma Salma like why Salma I said Salma Salma Hayek Salma Hayek you're putting so much L into I like it. It's like a light L. I like saying it. It's a light L. I like it. Why? Because I like it. Are you looking at the covers?

21:38Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I just want to say, if you're writing about Sports Illustrated, like who the models are, and you're not putting the covers in your articles, todayshow.com, like seriously,

21:46Claudia Oshry:they must not have the rights or something. You have to go to, I only found it on swimsuit.si.com.

21:52Jackie Oshry:Okay. Yeah. Tiffany Haddish's body's insane. Like I had no idea. Yeah. Nicole Williams English is giving like, you know, Sports Illustrated.

22:01Claudia Oshry:Yeah. To me, I love Nicole Williams English. She's from WAG. She's like one of them. I don't know her. Who is she? She's like Courtney's best friend. I think she's going to be on the girls. She's like Olivia, Natalie and Nicole. And she's been in Sports Illustrated. She announced her pregnancy on the runway of SI Swim. And she's another one for me that feels belated, you know, like now she's just like a classic Sports Illustrated girl. And like, you should have given her the cover pregnant five years ago. Like that would have been interesting.

22:28Jackie Oshry:It's so funny when I think about trends because I feel like for so many years, like boobs were everything. Boobs are in, boobs out, boobs out. And now I feel like boobs are out and like vagina's in, you know? Oh, I mean, but what about butt?

22:40Claudia Oshry:Remember the butt?

22:41Jackie Oshry:Well, yeah, but like super high waisted bikinis where you can like see like the vagina. I actually feel like boobs are coming back.

22:50Claudia Oshry:I hope so. These covers are not very booby. Boobs are very like early 2000s and then they went away and then the butt was here for a while. But now I feel like, you know, C cups are coming back.

23:03Jackie Oshry:I don't know why like Hillary's picture is so weird. Don't you find like her position? She looks so like in pain.

23:10Claudia Oshry:I feel like that's how she likes to be. You know, I just want to say like these are good. I love Alex's cover. And if this was the one. It would be if I had to pick one, I think hers is the best. and I think that it should have been one. And like, you're never gonna catch me loving a four cover announcement. Bring back, and this is not for Sports Illustrated. So at this year.

23:30Jackie Oshry:But I mean this in the world. Like, bring back just choosing one.

23:34Claudia Oshry:Yeah. No, but at this point, we have said this, we say this every single year. I feel like working record. Every single year, it's four covers. I don't think we're ever gonna get one cover ever again. I'm never gonna give up hope. But I'm telling you, I will never give a damn about what you're doing if there's four of them.

23:48Jackie Oshry:And if we're never gonna get four covers again, fine. we're never going to get an iconic cover ever again. Nothing can be iconic when you're a part of a group. I'm sorry. We have not had an iconic. When I think of the last like really iconic.

24:01I don't know.

24:02Claudia Oshry:But also, I also like a couple girls on one cover. That's fine with me.

24:07Jackie Oshry:I could have 50 people on one cover. I just want one cover.

24:10Claudia Oshry:They did that.

24:11Jackie Oshry:I'm sorry. None of them were wearing bathing suits. They were all wearing gowns. That was awful. That was awful. No, they're syncing it up big time. This is so fine. It's completely fine.

24:20Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it's not like exciting or innovative. I will say it's not the big deal that it once was. So, OK, let's move on.

24:28Jackie Oshry:If I was like wanting to, you know, look deeper into this and be annoying, like body positive influence. I think these covers really do also reflect that, like the body positivity movement like is over. Like that is out according to these covers. Not me. I would never say that. But like it's giving, you know, it's much like other things, you know. Yeah. Trends come and go. I'm just saying like if I if I wanted to make a statement I would but I don't want to yeah I like I can't remember the last time they didn't include you know a little something in there yeah but I guess like they're covering different categories here yeah old young mothers true singers comedians yeah yeah it's fine I feel fine about this like obviously I love my girl Alex

25:18Claudia Oshry:are all i love tiffany haddish i love nicole williams english hillary duff although she and

25:26Jackie Oshry:i have a complicated relationship but you've moved past it absolutely yeah but it just it's just not

25:32Claudia Oshry:what it once was like i almost i almost miss when we were just getting to speculate over who the cover was that was almost more fun than of course because it's never going to be as good as our I just want to say like I do think Alex Earl's cover is really I mean it's a real it's a cover

25:50Jackie Oshry:that feels like a real cover yeah not just like a Canon GS7 GS G7 X on like the beach in the Bahamas yeah and if it was given you know more of a pride of place treatment like it could have

26:03Claudia Oshry:been iconic but now it'll just be forgotten with the rest of these well this is just like a huge

26:08Jackie Oshry:sleigh for Alex of all the covers she's probably like the most up-and-coming technically even though she's like she's come you know yeah she's here no honestly it's a safer the other girls like to be

26:17Claudia Oshry:amongst her ranks well that was fun yeah are you ready for our next story major up fronts like all happened yesterday i saw that the up fronts were happening nbc universal fox and amazon all hosted up fronts yesterday and we got a lot of new show canceled show

26:42Jackie Oshry:information so up front are like b2b events where the networks like host these huge events for like their advertisers and their partners announcing what shows are coming what shows are leaving it's like a big programming update and they often make it like a big spectacle they have a lot of

26:55Claudia Oshry:celebrities in attendance you know partners yeah to get everyone excited and drum up interest in the coming programming slate um so here's what we have from nbcu first of all they played a clip from the summer house reunion.

27:08Jackie Oshry:They did?

27:09Claudia Oshry:Yeah, where they were talking about Wes's like exclusive relationship. It was like a sidebar conversation like with Sierra and Kyle and someone, maybe like, I don't even know. It wasn't part of like the actual reunion. It was like Hot Mike talking about like Wes's relationship just to like titillate the viewers. Oh, that's exciting. Yes. Then we had Jimmy Fallon and Boz's show canceled.

27:35Jackie Oshry:I was very upset about that Even though I didn't watch it

27:38Claudia Oshry:How could you be upset when you didn't watch one episode?

27:40Jackie Oshry:I know because I just want like good things for my girl Bo's that's why I'm upset I don't care about Jamie Fallon like he'll be fine But like I wanted that for Bo's

27:48Claudia Oshry:Yeah another show like that was announced That we were excited about and that has been subsequently Canceled I forget what it was but I was like How can I be mad about this I did not watch it

27:56Jackie Oshry:I know and like that's on me For sure and like I should have like been using My platform to get everyone to watch it But But I didn't.

28:05Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but we didn't. Then, you know, Vin Diesel was there, Tina Fey.

28:12Jackie Oshry:Bravo announced a new show, Secrets Lies Texas Wives.

28:16Claudia Oshry:It's giving, like, reality version of Hunting Wives.

28:21Jackie Oshry:Yeah, it's also clearly, like, a play on the secret lives of Mormon Wives.

28:24Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but I feel like they're trying to, like, capitalize on the hunting wives phenomenon.

28:29Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I found it shocking just because, like, Like, and I feel like we were talking about this with the Hulu Get Real event, where Hulu has kind of taken over for Bravo as, like, the leading unscripted, like, destination for unscripted TV shows. So the fact that, like, they have a show coming out that is, I don't know what it's really about, but it seems like a play on Secret Lives of Mormon-wise. It's kind of a big deal. Like, Bravo's always been, like, setting the trends. Now they're sort of following them.

28:51Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Also, I saw on Peacock, Madison LaCroix is getting a show.

28:55Jackie Oshry:A vertical series.

28:56Claudia Oshry:about like like you know a confessional style show with people in her chair as she like does their hair that's cute yeah that is cute there was another one that was like that hold on i saved it but i'll have to find it um yeah like a lot of little shows announced the real housewives upcoming 20th anniversary special rhode island housewives got uh picked up for season two which i don't think shocks anyone no everyone's talking about that where's my madison oh i didn't save it then there was also the Fox up front Baywatch ladies were out Brooks and the girls I saw Brooks, Livvy and Shea Mitchell is Shea Mitchell in it?

29:36Claudia Oshry:yeah and Hasse Harrison Hasse she could go on namesake she could go on namesake and then also Amazon up front

29:47Jackie Oshry:I didn't really see much about that

29:49Claudia Oshry:yeah there's a new show called Reality Retreat which is coming on Amazon Prime Video and it's about like 13 reality TV alumni women who are going on like a wellness retreat designed to challenge their identities, relationships, and personal growth. The cast includes Kenya Moore, Margaret Josephs, Kim Zolciak, Christine Quinn, Brittany Cartwright, Tamar Braxton, Caitlin Bristow, Jen Tran, Savannah Chrisley, Ilaria. Oh, wow. Yeah.

30:17Jackie Oshry:Yeah, this is just giving like another one of those shows. It doesn't sound that good.

30:20Claudia Oshry:It sounds really bad. like there's really no there's no hook what we're gonna go watch them do a wellness retreat therapy

30:27Jackie Oshry:I'm all set I also think that for a while there was this genre of shows where they were like collecting random reality stars like making them do challenges and they were never very good house of villains MTV's the challenge and X on the beach and then like traders really sort of leveled up that genre of show where it's like we can't just watch garbage like that anymore we need more compelling content so that's why that mafia show that hulu announced does sound like it'll be good there's like now this genre i we can't like no more garbage yeah yeah this sounds like garbage

31:02Claudia Oshry:it's it does it's from amazon it's like there's their take on trying to get in the reality game like it's so random jeff sit down seriously um and then there's oh apparently i think netflix Suffolk Insert today and they're announcing the name of the Earl family show. Is it not Earl Girls? Would it be like Real Earl's? Real Earl's? What if my name is Earl? I thought it was Earl of Sandwich.

31:34Jackie Oshry:What did you think it was? I thought it was like already decided Earl Girls.

31:40Claudia Oshry:I didn't know we were like waiting for it.

31:42Jackie Oshry:I'm pretty sure it's the Earl Girls even though it's kind of hard to say now that I keep saying it.

31:46Claudia Oshry:I think it should be Real Earls

31:50Jackie Oshry:I think it should be

31:51Claudia Oshry:Getting Activists with the Realis What do you think? Yeah I think that's good Or it could be like Get Something get real with me I don't know Earl Girls But it's also like about her family And her parents

32:11Jackie Oshry:It's all girls except her dad I think he's a mean character But he's like the Earl Girls manager. I am really looking forward to that show.

32:20Claudia Oshry:If it was going to be Earl Girls, we would have already known that. I think it's going to be something different. But what I'm saying is that I did know that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. No, but that's from years ago.

32:28Jackie Oshry:So yeah, when she first popped off, there was a false start where she was trying to get her sister and her stepmom and all this different ancillary characters, trying to get them off the ground. And they were shopping a show around that I believe was called Earl Girls. and it didn't really, it wasn't the right time. So I think she put on the back burner and then it kind of happened organically where people were like really into Ashton and then the stepmom. And so now I think it's the right time. I actually don't know if Earl Girls

32:55Claudia Oshry:is the right name though. We'll see. It should be Love Thy Earl. No, I think it should be Earl Thy Nader. I think it should be Keeping Up With The Earls. Oh, I like that. Living Earl. Yeah. So that's a bunch of new programming. there's a bunch of more stuff but you know check it out cool should check it out next story is one that i'm really excited to share with you because um kylie kelsey won the webby award for podcast of the year and she gave she gave a very inspiring five word speech after the thing about the webby

33:33Jackie Oshry:is that i only recently learned is that when you win an award you're only allowed to make a speech that's five words. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought she - Everybody prepares the five words because I remember Jake Shane won one. Remember Kim did nude selfies till I die like a million years ago. Oh, funny. So people like, I don't know if you know you're going to win, but every nominee has like an idea of what they're going to say.

33:58Claudia Oshry:That's a really cute concept. I didn't know. I'm glad for that backstory because I was about to be like, why, what was the speech? So here were Kylie Kelsey's five words for winning podcast of the year.

34:08Jackie Oshry:Not me. Us. Go Birds. Right?

34:12Claudia Oshry:Women supporting women. Go Birds.

34:23Jackie Oshry:Why women supporting women? Like, for real.

34:25Claudia Oshry:Why not? Why not?

34:31Jackie Oshry:That's crazy. Who else was nominated? I also think it's crazy that she won because like she didn't have the podcast of the year like maybe the year before like she had a big launch but I think she just has like regular podcast like everyone else now you know yeah okay

34:44Claudia Oshry:so here were the nominees for good hang for podcast of the year how am I ever gonna find this

34:54Jackie Oshry:okay whatever like I was just curious like yeah was Amy Poehler not nominated I'm sure she was

35:00Claudia Oshry:okay anyways women sporting women go birds inspiring what would your five word speech be i got mine okay thank you grab a spoon mine would be the place looks great period okay well well i don't it always does i would be well the place looks great perfect perfect what i mean i could go up fun exercise yeah i could go on forever

35:41Jackie Oshry:is what i was gonna say i could also do

35:47Jackie Oshry:there is no 5k

35:52Claudia Oshry:bloom where you are planted

35:57Jackie Oshry:i got it look at us lead in ordinary life flubbert be violent in your work that's really good if we won together maybe

36:13Claudia Oshry:we could get like two sets of five and then we could complete the flubbert quote

36:22actually i really have the best one this is for the swirlies

36:29Jackie Oshry:that's five yeah yeah i've got that swirl i was just doing that one we've got that swirl Swirlatude.

36:40Claudia Oshry:Exclamation point. No, Swirlatude is a hyphenation.

36:44Jackie Oshry:It's two.

36:45Claudia Oshry:That's really fun. Anyways, women supporting women go birds.

36:50Jackie Oshry:Okay. I thought you would love that. I just feel like there are seriously two different types of podcasts out there for women. The first is women supporting women go birds. And the other is we've got that Swirlatude. That's just the opposite. I would never. And the funny thing is what I've come to learn is I'm actually a woman who supports other women. And like a lot of people just talk the talk when I actually walk the walk, like taking all the hate I've taken for Blake Lively. So it's like funny as like an actual woman who supports other women, you know?

37:18Claudia Oshry:Yeah. You would just think like Kylie would would clown on stuff like that.

37:24Jackie Oshry:Absolutely. I don't really like I don't listen to her podcast. I don't fully understand like her ethos, you know, what her brand because she's like raw and real. And then she says. And sometimes that means like you're not supporting women if you're raw and real.

37:38Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah.

37:39Jackie Oshry:So I'm not sure.

37:41Claudia Oshry:Well, are you ready for our next story, which I guess is our fourth story?

37:45Jackie Oshry:Wait, how?

37:47Claudia Oshry:How? Because we did Sports Illustrated, Upfronts, and Five Word Kylie Kelsey.

37:51Jackie Oshry:Forgot about Sports Illustrated. I'm ready.

37:54Claudia Oshry:So our fourth story is that Benedict Cumberbatch had a heated 10-minute road rage fight with a cyclist.

38:01Jackie Oshry:Yeah, I saw this video. I forgot about Benedict Cumberbatch.

38:04Claudia Oshry:Well, I didn't forget about him. I just don't know him because I don't, I'm not familiar with his work. Like he's someone who has really missed me, which is funny because you would think that like he would be one of my genres, but he's really not.

38:17Jackie Oshry:I just saw that movie about, it's not about, but like the place where the Rose Code took place. Oh, Bridge of Spies. No, that's Tom Hanks. The Rose Code one where they're cracking like the Nazi, the Enigma machine.

38:31Claudia Oshry:Imitation game.

38:33Jackie Oshry:So he's in that, right? Yes, I did not see that, but I read Rose Code. Right. I think that was my first time sort of interfacing with Benedict. And let me tell you, I know this is not a surprise, but he's a very good actor. Yeah, no.

38:46Claudia Oshry:And he's in a lot of stuff like Sherlock, Doctor Strange. Yeah, he's like a major. The Hobbit. And it's just like all things that I happen to not watch. Right, right. You would think that I would. However, one work of his I've watched backwards and forwards. Is his video with the cyclist? is the Grinch. He plays the Grinch.

39:07Jackie Oshry:I thought you were making a joke. Like the piece of art that you've seen him in is the video of him and the cyclist.

39:12Claudia Oshry:To be honest, I didn't really watch the video because like to me, Benedict Cumberbatch, like he's not one of my famous people, you know? He's not my celebrity.

39:20Jackie Oshry:Yeah, this like didn't move anything for me, but I just love to see celebrities like acting out of turn. Although I do feel like the headline was misleading. Like the guy was following him, like get away.

39:28Claudia Oshry:Yeah, it would be like, I guess for other people, the way it would feel for me if like Matthew from Downton Abbey was like fighting in the street and having a road rage incident.

39:36Jackie Oshry:Well, now that you feel like that, I actually think that would be insane.

39:40Claudia Oshry:Right. So like, that's what it's like for the Cumberbatchers.

39:43Jackie Oshry:Yeah. And also he doesn't go out a lot. Like he's not a celebrity who's always getting spotted.

39:47Claudia Oshry:And he's just like a very like erudite actor. So who's like roles are not Congress with road rage.

39:54Jackie Oshry:Yeah. He plays like often like a nobleman.

39:56Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Like not Congress were like fighting in the streets.

39:59Jackie Oshry:Yeah. It wasn't like really fighting. It was like a lot of like, you know, stern finger pointing. But I think the guy was following him. Celebrities love to ride bikes like in major cities. You know, one time I saw Alan coming on a bike.

40:11Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Before Traders. Yeah. Yeah. He was fighting, I guess. I don't really. I don't know. But like. So I don't have an opinion. I don't know if he was right or wrong. Like, is this an Alec Baldwin situation?

40:26Jackie Oshry:Oh, oh, oh, no. I don't think that like the veil has been lifted and Benedict Cumberbatch is actually like an evil guy. I think somebody drove. He was driven to this point. I understand. Road rage will do that to you. And that's the thing. They say death is the great equalizer. No, it's road rage because even your faves experience rage on the road.

40:44Claudia Oshry:Really? I try and keep it even keel. I do. I know. Like you and Ben actually have like a serious case of road rage.

40:53Jackie Oshry:Jackie, I think like that's universal.

40:55Claudia Oshry:No, no, no. I think I would agree with you like there's frustrations out on the road.

40:59Jackie Oshry:Yeah, frustrations for sure.

41:00Claudia Oshry:But you and Ben suffer and both of you at a very high level from road rage.

41:06Jackie Oshry:I don't think that that's true actually.

41:08Claudia Oshry:When I drive with you and like someone's just like and like the road is.

41:11Jackie Oshry:Yeah, but you're like driving Miss Daisy with your like tiny little three miles an hour. No, no, no.

41:16Claudia Oshry:And by the way, I do speed a little. But you. Yeah, I speed a little. You get, you have road rage.

41:24Jackie Oshry:I find me and Benedict Cumberbatch

41:26Claudia Oshry:and Ben Soffer I think you guys sort of like bring that out in each other

41:32Jackie Oshry:I feel as though when I can't believe we've been discussing Benedict Cumberbatch the entire time it's crazy that his name is Benedict it's yeah no it's a big name and don't you find that Mr. Arnold like ruined that name because now like Benedict is sort of a verb for traitor but it's a beautiful name if you really

41:52Claudia Oshry:go by Ben or anything? If you take it down to the studs. Benedict. It's historic. No, and it's you could go by Ben. You could go by Dick.

42:01Jackie Oshry:But don't you, you could. Don't you feel like Benedict Arnold very much did for the name Benedict, but like Hitler did for the name Adolf? Like nobody named their kid Adolf after that.

42:11Claudia Oshry:Well, well, first of all, Benedict Cumberbatch, not Cumberbatch, sorry, Benedict Arnold, while a traitor to Americans, is probably a hero to the British. Oh, that's true. Because, you know, history is written by the victors. Yeah. So, like, he was fighting for the British. That's probably, that's their guy. Like, oh, he was in there like a Trojan horse. Oh, right, right, right.

42:31Jackie Oshry:Put his life on the line.

42:32Claudia Oshry:They probably associate him with one of the greatest spies. He's their Eli Cohen.

42:36Jackie Oshry:Actually, so true.

42:37Claudia Oshry:Mm-hmm.

42:39Jackie Oshry:I mean, looking at this from such an American perspective. Yeah.

42:42Claudia Oshry:Zoom out.

42:42Jackie Oshry:But I feel like Adolf, like, even to the Germans. Adolf ruined Germany, too. Right, right. So even like his loyal subjects were not down.

42:51Claudia Oshry:No, no. Like, so it's not the same.

42:55Jackie Oshry:And it's not like it's such a beautiful name. Like, I feel like the country probably had like an easy time parting with it because it's kind of a go.

43:02Claudia Oshry:No, I think it's a nice name. Think about it.

43:03Jackie Oshry:Adolf? Oh, no, no, no. Benedict. You know, so I'm saying like Benedict, they maybe like had a hard time parting with because it's a beautiful name. Adolf? Yuck. Well, yeah. The Adolf looks beautiful.

43:18Claudia Oshry:I feel like there are names similar to Adolf that like could scratch that itch if you really wanted to go Adolf, you know? Like? Like Rudolph.

43:35Claudia Oshry:Sure. There's also another one. Wait, hold on. I need to, um, Cece's Children. I just need to, um.

43:46Jackie Oshry:Like Henrich? no it's rudolph rudolph yeah it's a good thing like stalin went by his last name because joseph

43:53Claudia Oshry:would have been like a tough name to lose we couldn't part with joseph yeah not i'm having a biblical name yeah heinrich i feel like that one but i do think adolf was a little bit of a trendy name you know because like joseph 1930s energy because joseph like it's timeless yeah it precedes stalin there's so much history to the right right adolf was just very much like

44:17Jackie Oshry:aged himself.

44:18Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Yeah. It's very trendy. That's

44:21Jackie Oshry:beautiful.

44:22Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our fifth and final story?

44:25Jackie Oshry:Rudolph.

44:26Claudia Oshry:Rudolph. He was the prince of Austria.

44:29Jackie Oshry:He was also the red-nosed reindeer.

44:31Claudia Oshry:Classic stuff.

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48:56Claudia Oshry:You're welcome. Our fifth and final story, a little book to movie news. Did you ever read The Midnight Library? No, but I also heard Beatread is going to theaters. Beatread is going to theaters and the midnight library will be a film adaptation starring Florence Pugh. So midnight library, which was a red heads book was the number one New York times bestselling 2020 novel. It was the biggest book of the year. Yeah. Um, it was, I started it.

49:22Jackie Oshry:I didn't like it.

49:23Claudia Oshry:It's like the only person. It's a very good book. Maybe it was just like, not the vibe you were feeling at the time, but it's, um, maybe I should get back into it. I just don't think it's your vibe. It's like, it's kind of dark, you know, it's not like super fun, but it's insightful and was she dead i forget yes okay she was on the brink and she got to like well this isn't like a spoiler but it's a like a magical she finds herself in a magical library that allows her to explore all the alternate universes of her life that she could have lived all the different choices that she could have made right right i didn't care and no it it's a great book florence pugh will be playing norris the protagonist which i think that works for me like she's very bookish quiet she's been quiet no yeah and she's a good act like she like when she's tied to the project it'll be a legit yeah i do feel like when they adapt movies they

50:14Jackie Oshry:are always like pulling from the same pool of people she's new uh i actually don't feel like

50:20Claudia Oshry:jay edgar jones and hathaway she was in little women which was also a book i feel like she's part of the book crew and i maybe there's just like a group of women in hollywood who read and when they hear that these books are becoming movies they want to be involved because they know it's a really good story yeah maybe yeah the readers emma roberts yeah classic stuff yeah so it's a good way to get good roles is to read yeah it is and that's a good uh she's good i like her yeah she's another one i actually am not familiar with a lot of her work like just has missed me um but i i will watch this so she was actually um in oppenheimer i saw her i saw her boobs didn't see it i saw her boobs i didn't see it i didn't see don't worry darling i didn't see

51:06Jackie Oshry:little women but don't you think it's crazy that there were boobs in oppenheimer like so

51:10Claudia Oshry:unnecessary there were boobs in oppenheimer of course why of course oppenheimer be without boobs How could you make a movie about the atomic bomb without some boobies? How could you do it?

51:25Jackie Oshry:So if you haven't seen Oppenheimer yet, maybe now you will, because I told you there are boobies in it.

51:29Claudia Oshry:And that's precisely why. Now I'll watch it. Why the war was won.

51:34Jackie Oshry:It's why the war was won.

51:35Claudia Oshry:Well, maybe it was a reason to keep fighting.

51:40Jackie Oshry:Well, the bomb looks great. It always does. Let's dive into Dear Toasters, our weekly advice segment every Tuesday. Jackie and I pick three submissions from our community. People write in to us at DeerToasters at gmail.com or head over to our website, TheToastPodcast.com. So you can, you know, hear from us if you're going through any sort of issue at work, at home. Are you ready? Dear Toasters, light edition.

52:04Claudia Oshry:Thank you.

52:05Jackie Oshry:Hey, Jackson Turd. It's my first Mother's Day. Oh, no. Sorry. Like, not me actually reading a sentence. I wasn't there. Happy first month. No. Let's try this again. Dear Jackson Turdy, first, happy Mother's Day to my two favorite podcasters. I gave birth to my son a week ago and we named him after my husband. We were in the newborn haze sitting around talking about what to do for my first Mother's Day when the doorbell rings and flowers arrive. I open the card and it says happy Mother's Day from your favorite XO Jenny. Jenny is my sister. Right away I'm confused because the flowers look half dead and the note does not sound like her at all.

52:38Jackie Oshry:We had also just been joking about how people keep bringing flowers for newborn gifts and it's literally the least helpful thing you can bring. So I text her asking if she sent them and she says no. Then she texts my parents to ask if maybe they sent flowers on her behalf and they did not. Later, we look again at the delivery slip to figure out who actually sent the mystery flowers and it turns out they came from my husband's company. The problem is that my husband has no idea who Jenny is. For context, my husband is loyal and present and truly the last person on earth who would have the energy for a double life.

53:03Jackie Oshry:He works for himself running a distributor for medical supplies with one employee. He's technically associated with a larger corporate company, but he doesn't have any co-workers in the normal sense there's no office full of people where some random jenny could be lurking we also follow each other on find my iphone so there's literally no room for secrets or anything now i am one week postpartum holding a newborn and staring at these wilted flowers from someone named jenny and i cannot tell if this is a mistake i cannot tell this is a simple mistake a weird mix-up in the corporate system or something else entirely so what do you think

53:34Claudia Oshry:okay so it's very weird and it's giving spooky and like oh gosh we need to you know go on an investigation we need to do an investigation into your husband but I'm gonna operate like what you're saying is true and I do think there's at a certain point like if you have your husband on like find my iPhone and like he's always home saying he works like you know where he is at every minute of the day like actually how could he be conducting an affair right and I also want to say like you are one week postpartum and I want us to like pocket this information remember that it was weird and forget it like you can't make yourself crazy and sick I think we just need to just give Give your husband the benefit of the doubt.

54:11Claudia Oshry:Assume that it was a mistake. Maybe the florist sent it to the wrong. I mean, even though it's happy first Mother's Day, it's very weird. But I think the weirder part is that the flowers are dead.

54:23Jackie Oshry:That's where it's like a spooky.

54:25Claudia Oshry:It's very spooky and ominous. Yeah. Yeah.

54:27Jackie Oshry:Because a florist would never deliver dead flowers.

54:30Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Call the florist shop.

54:32Jackie Oshry:Yeah. If you want to investigate, my first stop would, of course, be the floral shop as well. You should call the floral shop and also like you should let them know they delivered half dead.

54:40Claudia Oshry:Like how could they bring that to your door? But I also like you don't need to make yourself crazy about this. Like if your husband is a line cheating scoundrel and he's having an affair, you know what? You'll find out soon enough. Put it off a couple months. You just had a baby. We'll deal with that in a couple months. And I don't think that he is. So why make ourselves crazy for nothing? You know, sometimes like things do just get confused. And like do you even want to know that this week? Like, talk to me in three months.

55:06Jackie Oshry:Yeah, yeah. For now, Jackie's right. Like, pocket the information. But, like, definitely spooky.

55:10Claudia Oshry:Definitely spooky for sure. And I don't think he's a lying cheating scoundrel. I don't. Me neither. But this wouldn't be the time. I'm going to choose to believe. This isn't the time for that information. Honestly, like, very inconvenient truth.

55:22Jackie Oshry:Agreed. Al Gore said it best. Hey, girlies. You both are smart, beautiful, and skinny as hell. Literally can't even see you. I'm cracking up. Anyways, that's how you get your submission read, by the way. Just call us skinny. My husband got me a diamond band for my wedding set for Mother's Day. Exactly what I asked for. Good job. Except I saw that he purchased the ring on Amazon. Now, this would not be a problem if he had presented it as such. But he literally put my ring in a box from the jeweler that did my engagement ring and my wedding band. So he was clearly trying to pass it off as higher quality.

55:51Jackie Oshry:But it's from Amazon. Should I confront him? Should I let it be? It matches my real band from the jeweler. But it kind of makes me sad that he's lying about it from being from Amazon. What do I do?

55:58Claudia Oshry:Is it diamonds from Amazon?

56:00Jackie Oshry:I don't think you can buy diamonds on Amazon.

56:02Claudia Oshry:You can buy everything. Is it lab grown diamonds on Amazon? Or is it seriously a$20 ring?

56:10Jackie Oshry:I think it's a$20 ring that he's trying to pass off as like a$2 ,000 ring.

56:15Claudia Oshry:He tried.

56:18Jackie Oshry:Wow.

56:20Claudia Oshry:I just like, I wonder what sort of place he has to be in and that like you guys are in where he couldn't just like be honest with you. Like I don't like deception. so like if it's like why are you the sort of person who's like pretending that these are diamonds when they're not diamonds were you supposed are you supposed to be able to afford diamonds are you at that level and where are the diamonds then if you're earning that much like or it's known that you wouldn't be able to afford that so why are you pretending like you can not to

56:47Jackie Oshry:theorize of course but like maybe you know he lost his job or something or he spent the money

56:50Claudia Oshry:on his girlfriend.

56:54Claudia Oshry:Or on his boyfriend.

56:56Jackie Oshry:Yeah, right, right. It sounds like he has a secret boyfriend and he got the real diamond ring and you got the fake one from Amazon. See, things can be so much worse.

57:06Claudia Oshry:Yeah, yeah. I don't like deception, you know, especially in a, she said married. Yeah, you gotta bring it up

57:11Jackie Oshry:because of the deception and like I'm afraid, obviously I hate to make a mountain out of a molehill. Like maybe this is just Iceberg and he's having financial problems, like something. So unfortunately, like you have to bring it up. Sorry.

57:20Claudia Oshry:I just don't feel like there should be secrets. There shouldn't be deception in a marriage. Absolutely. If you can't afford a diamond ring, don't pretend like you can. It's okay. We don't need a diamond ring. It sounds like you have a band and an engagement ring. It sounds like you have quite a few. It's kind of like a little spoiled. You're stacked up. So there's worse things than not being able to afford that diamond ring. But just be honest. I need honesty. I need to know the playing field.

57:43Jackie Oshry:I agree. And maybe this deception is indicative of a larger issue. Either infidelity, a queerness.

57:51Claudia Oshry:something like that yeah gambling he spent he gambled away your diamond ring money

57:58Jackie Oshry:right or or he spent it on you know gowns because he's a cross dresser like there's a million things or dear toasters like you seriously never fucking know let me how about these mental gymnastics what

58:12Claudia Oshry:if he bought a ring that he liked the design of on amazon to see if he liked the design and then he took that to the jeweler and the jeweler made a real version and so oh you saw that he bought a ring like that on amazon but it was in the jeweler's box because he bought it for

58:25Jackie Oshry:real yeah and then you bring it up and you're just like the asshole like he went so far out of his way to like get a sample right bring it up yeah third and final hey jackson claude sorry claude this might be a little triggering considering the recent events that happened to you over mother's day but i need advice when my husband and i got married we both agreed to quit vaping for our health. I got pregnant right away, so it was very easy for me to stop. And he said that he did too, but I've suspected that he has not. Back in February, I saw him outside clearly vaping and he denied it. This past weekend, we went out of town for a wedding and I found a vape with a half empty pod in it and a package full of pods.

59:00Jackie Oshry:I didn't bring it up then because I did not want to ruin our weekend, but now I'm not sure how to approach it. I'm pissed about the vaping, but even more pissed about the lying. I also care about his health and I want him to be the healthiest that he can be for our son. How do I talk to him about this without turning it into a fight or feeling like I'm nagging that's really annoying it is like as somebody who successfully quit vaping and not because I was pregnant like yeah it's a little easy to quit vaping like you have like literally no choice when you're doing it like to support your wife like you kind of have a choice right but your initial reasoning together for stopping was like to be healthy and for your future children and not your current children so once again it all leads back to deception but maybe he has like such an oral fixation on the vape because he sucks a lot of dick

59:43Claudia Oshry:maybe he's like also stopped like being gay so this is sort of a placeholder I just like I'm feeling very unsympathetic towards this man like I don't think I think like yeah quitting vaping would be a challenge but it's really not that hard

59:58Jackie Oshry:you know try being pregnant

1:00:00Claudia Oshry:go to war you know quitting vaping figure it out

1:00:06Jackie Oshry:I totally agree

1:00:08Claudia Oshry:figure it out

1:00:09Jackie Oshry:yeah and also what's worse than like you literally having proof of somebody like I saw you smoking he's like no I wasn't like

1:00:15Claudia Oshry:but I see the proof but that also goes back to lies I don't like lies I know so it's always

1:00:21Jackie Oshry:it's never the crime it's literally always the fucking cover up like if you said

1:00:24Claudia Oshry:I saw you smoking and then he was like I know babe I'm having such a hard time like it's like I'm gaining weight and you know and then I could be sympathetic towards that I could of course but I'm a liar what I'm stupid you think I'm stupid

1:00:36Jackie Oshry:blind when will people learn that it's never the crime it's always the cover-up like both it's oh it is also the crime people are human like okay you have an addiction and you fell back into your addiction like how can i be mad like i get it the lying when i'm literally watching you i am watching you smoke and then i know you're telling me that you're not and then i know you're

1:00:56Claudia Oshry:and that's a problem for me yep that's a problem for me because then i can't trust a damn thing you say. Abso-fucking-lutely. That's so bad is to be a known liar. It's actually very true. Your word means nothing. Don't do it you guys. Your word is everything. It's all you have.

1:01:14Jackie Oshry:If you don't have your word like you have nothing.

1:01:16Claudia Oshry:Yeah my word is important to me.

1:01:18Jackie Oshry:And I think that's what makes you like quite a nobleman.

1:01:20Claudia Oshry:Thank you so much like that. Correct.

1:01:25Jackie Oshry:Thank you to everybody who wrote in and was vulnerable. I'm sorry to tell you that like all your husbands are gay but like listen It's better that you know now.

1:01:31Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And just want to say that was such a better Dear Toaster. It's like, Oh, you feel better. Oh my God. I can go enjoy my day. Okay. I am having a smile.

1:01:40Jackie Oshry:Maybe if there is a dark one, like I'll always limit it to just one out of the three and I'll make it the first one.

1:01:44Claudia Oshry:we could do like a special edition. Dark version. Dark version. We're like, I can get into the headset, but like, here we are swirling around. We got that swirlitude.

1:01:53Jackie Oshry:And then let's do Dear Toasters after dark on Patreon. I like that. Dear Toasters. Special Victims Unit. DTU. Yeah. In the criminal justice system, sexually based submissions are considered especially heinous. In New York City and South Florida, the dedicated swirlies who investigate these vicious submissions are members of an elite squad known as the Swirlies. Dear Toasters Unit. Unit. These are their submissions. Ding, ding.

1:02:26Claudia Oshry:Now that. Chilling. That I can do. Okay.

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