Wrapping Up with Justin Sylvester: Wednesday, December 3rd, 2025

3 Dec 2025 · 1 h 9 min

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Episode Title

Wrapping Up with Justin Sylvester: Wednesday, December 3rd, 2025 Hosts: Jackie & Claudia Oshry Guest: Justin Sylvester

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Episode Overview This episode features lively discussions on various trending topics, celebrity news, and cultural commentary. The hosts and guest Justin Sylvester dive into the latest happenings in the entertainment world, including the results of Spotify Wrapped 2025, celebrity relationship dynamics, and reality TV controversies.

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Key Topics Discussed

Spotify Wrapped 2025

  • Top Artist: Bad Bunny claimed the title of top global artist.
  • Top Album: His album "Debbie Chirar Mas Fotos" topped the global album list.
  • Notable Absences: Beyoncé did not appear in the top 50 most streamed artists, attributed to her not releasing new music this year.
  • Most Streamed Songs:
  • "Die with a Smile" by Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga
  • "Birds of a Feather" claimed the second spot.
  • There is controversy about the use of bots to inflate streaming numbers.

Celebrity Relationships

  • Travis Kelce and Taylor Swift:
  • Kelce stated they have never had an argument in their 2.5-year relationship, which raised eyebrows about the normalcy of such a claim.
  • Discussion centered on whether this lack of conflict indicates a healthy relationship or avoidance of deeper issues.
  • George Clooney's Perspective:
  • Clooney shared insights on his relationship with Amal, agreeing with the sentiment of staying away from arguments.

Reality TV Updates

  • Jen Shah's Possible Return to RHOSLC:
  • Andy Cohen firmly shut down speculation about Jen's return following her prison sentence, citing a moral standpoint.
  • Prince Harry's Cameo:
  • He made a surprise appearance in Meghan Markle's "With Love" holiday special, stirring public interest.
  • K-Pop Demon Hunters:
  • Discussion included Jessi Ngatikaura's insights on the Season 3 reunion photos of "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives."

Personal Reflections

  • Justin Sylvester's Career Insights:
  • Justin shares experiences from his career, including working with celebrities and the dynamics of reality TV.
  • Discussed the challenges of being authentic versus the performance aspect required in entertainment.

Key Takeaways

  • Cultural Commentary:
  • The duality of celebrity personas versus their real-life counterparts was emphasized, suggesting that audiences often only see a curated version of public figures.
  • Reality TV and Ethics:
  • The show's discussion around reality TV ethics, particularly how producers handle controversial figures and the narrative direction of shows, was insightful.
  • Spotify Wrapped as a Cultural Event:
  • The phenomenon of Spotify Wrapped was described as a cultural moment that reflects not just music consumption but also personal identity and social signaling, particularly among younger demographics.

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Conclusion The episode wrapped up with humor and a light-hearted discussion about the intertwining of celebrity culture and personal relationships. The hosts encouraged listeners to reflect on the dynamics they observe in the entertainment industry while maintaining a casual and entertaining atmosphere.

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The episode blends humor with serious reflections on modern celebrity culture, making it a captivating listen for fans of pop culture and reality television.

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0:20I sound amazing. welcome back to the toast and happy wednesday i'm so excited to be sat on because my guest today is the one and only lady sitter back for a second time hello justin by the way twice in one mom yes twice in one maternity leave it's crazy yes welcome back you're in new york project project project business business business meeting meeting how are you a bitch is tired a bitch is tired you hosted the today show yesterday yes did you i did a little thing with scarlett johansson and jenna Oh, okay. I saw your Instagram post with you and ScarJo. It was so much fun. Tell me what Scarlett Johansson's like in person.

0:58Chill. Yeah? Also smells really nice. That's my Jewish queen right there. Yeah. I love her. You know, by the way, there's something about somebody who just knows she has it. So true. You know what I mean? 100%. Like, that woman has never had a confidence issue in her life, and you can tell. You know what I mean? Like, never a bad day. Went out with a pimple. Still got a man. You know what I mean? She had a good man, too. That's a good man, Savannah. That's a good man, Savannah. Welcome back to New York. Thank you so much. What are you sipping on, a protein shake? I got to get a protein shake because let me tell you something.

1:30You're withering away. Peacock is working my ass off. You have lots of projects. Tell me about your projects, Justin, of course. You know, just waiting for NBC to give you your job at the Today Show, of course. At this point, I don't know if it's going to happen, but the NFL might give me a job after this weekend. Okay, running back. What are you doing this weekend? So I'm doing reality hot seat. Basically, it's me, Heather Gay, Kate Chastain, and Boston Robb from Traitors and Survivor. We're going to be sitting down. We're going to be simulcasting a full football game. That's so funny. The Chiefs versus the Texans.

2:03We were talking about the football game, but we're also going to be talking about the drama off the field. Of course. One of my favorite things is the connections between professional athletes and celebrities. I always choose my team. For a while, I was a big Atlanta Falcons fan because Corey Bierman. Like, I love the connection between housewives and just celebrities in general with sports. Yes. And I love that people are starting to see reality TV like sports. We're always saying, like, they need to do, like, a bar night for The Bachelor. Like, and I think with Love Island over the summer, a lot of bars started to host, like, how you would host the Super Bowl.

2:32You host Love Island. Because, like, what's the equivalent of sports for women? It's really like reality TV. Oh, and for men. By the way. Oh, sorry. They get into it, too. Yes, 100%. Like, the straights get into it, too. Ben's always like, oh, we have to watch this. Meanwhile, he's like in the back being like, I cannot believe Lucerne said that. Oh, no, no, no. My favorite thing to do is because I date a straight man. Every time I'm like, oh, let's watch Real Housewives. He's like, oh, but we share an account. So I like to go to my account and see what he watches. And he will always go to the episode ahead.

3:02And he's like, oh, yeah, I just want to catch up with you. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But you're absolutely correct. Housewives is literally like football. The NFL, a thousand percent. There's drama. There's egos. There's a lot of story. There's a lot of things going on behind the scenes. And we are all going to dive into that. So a simulcast is like when we're simultaneously watching you. Yes. And the football game. Think of me as like your Brian Gumbel. Yeah, your Brian Gumbel. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to be Tony Romo. You're so Tony Romo. I'm so Tony Romo. I love that. It's so funny because I went into this whole thing.

3:37The process was pretty fun. You know, in my line of work, there's a chemistry test. and I get into the chemistry test. There's some women. There's a straight man. What happens in a chemistry test? They want to see who you are. If you vibe. Yeah. You just, you know, you talk to see if you vibe. You film like a fake episode, basically. Basically. Okay. And I got into my chemistry test and there's a straight guy in it. And, you know, questions about football would come up and I would surprise myself because how much I knew and how much I could explain. You know what I mean? Love, love, love. So I was like, holy shit.

4:11am I the am I a straight bro now? Literally am I a football gay now? Yes I'm a football gay you are now let me ask you a question cause you've got Heather Gay you've got a ton of reality do you ever run into this issue where like so much of your job especially when you were doing Daily Pop so much of your job is like talking shit right? yeah and sometimes it's not always like overwhelmingly positive and then you like run into that person or you like you know you see like do you ever have weirdness like that? I'm gonna tell you the greatest fucking story yes I'm probably gonna get shot let's do it I'll protect you.

4:42I was at Malika Hawk's 40th birthday. Okay. Malika of Chloe and Malika. Of Chloe and Malika. I ended up running into Tristan Thompson at said party. Yeah. Of course, all the shit, the back and forth. We knew what was going on. You know, it was all crazy. Of course, of course. And on Daily Pop at the time, that was like the hottest topic. Yeah. You know, he was the hottest topic. It was the biggest thing in the world at the time. It was the biggest thing in the world. Yeah. And my whole take, obviously Morgan Stewart had her take and it was always like, fuck that guy, fuck that guy. Like, how could he blah, blah, blah.

5:25Yeah. And my whole take was, you know, this is pretty terrible. Yeah. But I also don't know what I would do or what my mindset would be if I was 20 years old and somebody handed me 15 million dollars and all the power in the world i think it's a mind buck a thousand percent and i hope and one day he grows up but right now he is just not in that place and we are seeing it unroll he also doesn't have a dad like right you know like his mom was a single mom you took a very human approach to it it's a very human approach to it because i a i just didn't want the show to sound you know so negative yeah and also like i don't want us to all sound the same but i also fell for him a little bit right right right i also dated a professional athlete we'll get to that slide um somebody in the nfl we'll get to that slide um so that was always my approach and i kept it the same way because i believed it i run into him at the party black guys do this right it's like you know when you see two rams in the wild we just naturally do that in a room sometimes when we don't like somebody uh-huh so i was like hey what's happening man like he's like bro i see you on my show i see you on that show and i'm like oh my god and he's like six foot five uh-huh so i'm like you know i'm i'm getting a little nervous my butt getting you know your butt gets a little tight yeah i'm like like can you i'm like yeah well you want to talk about it like we can talk it out and he was like you know my mom always said that she liked you like she loves your takes on that show you know and i was like you know i was mad at first but then she made me realize that your takes blah blah and he and i start to have this one hour conversation about everything that had happened and about our like just how we grew up the same how parallel our lives were and how he was just genuinely like kind of touched that somebody understood and somebody was taking the other side right because nobody was at the time nobody yeah was taking the other side that's lovely and i still stand by there well i was asking like for more the negative side because like i feel like what people do what we do what happened to morgan stewart with justin bieber do you remember that when he tweeted the clip about her like making fun of him yeah and like came for her that is i think every podcaster commentators worst worst nightmare nightmare has anything like that ever happened to you but you're not really a negative person you do really see things like that tristan is a good example of like you just being a human being yeah oh no it's happened i had someone's publicist call me like this woman would would literally sit by the phone we would wrap at 9 a.m by 9 0 2 she was on the phone she was on the motherfucking phone yeah and i'm like babe you can't be upset about this like you gotta chill the fuck out yeah i had carol rodzibell's publicist like threatening me once but during the the Cartagena years remember that Bethany B.

8:17Carroll damn isn't it scary but by the way I feel like podcasters I was so young too now like I dare someone to fuck with me right but back then I was like I was like texting like fiercely but I was shitting my pants behind the scenes I was like I'm sorry I didn't well it's also like New York is small yes like you guys are gonna see each other around but I feel like podcasters want to do that now yes it's like a good way to be buzzy yeah but like I don't have the stomach for it. I don't. It's so weird because when you're a podcaster, you answer to yourself. And when you are on a network like E!

8:55back then, it's like we want to try this opinion-based thing, but we really want celebrities to show up. Right, right. They have to balance. Yeah, it's kind of like this fine dance. And E! News is less like opinion-based, right? You're just like, you're delivering the news. Oh, I have zero opinion. You don't get in trouble. No. Did you ever get in trouble on Nightly Pop and Daily Pop? Sorry, Daily Pop. Yeah, we got in trouble. I got in trouble a few times, but I was in the wild card. I let Morgan Stewart kind of be the way. And I'm also black and gay. You know what I mean? I do. If you tell a white woman that her hair looked a mess, you're fucking going down.

9:31Right. You know what I mean? If I tell a white woman, damn, your hair looks a mess, people are like, right? Oh, he's so funny. Yeah. You can get away. You can get away with it. Yeah. Wendy Williams was a gay black man. That's an amazing point. And let's talk about Wendy Williams. I know. It is a modern tragedy. And I think I watched, it's so funny, I reference this all the time and I feel like people are going to make fun of me because I tell the same five stories five times. She did a partnership with Lifetime where they did one of their like turnt recreations, biopics. Yeah. And it was one of the worst movies, but it was incredible.

10:03And I feel like I actually learned everything I know about Wendy Williams. like in her mega career, like in radio, up until she doesn't get in her flowers for kind of the woman that she was. I feel like when we talk about like women in daytime, we talk about, of course, like Ellen. And Wendy kind of gets like lost in the sauce, but she's really that bitch. She is that bitch. Also, Wendy was the first person to survive Diddy. What do you mean by that? Diddy tried to cancel Wendy years ago. She got kicked off her radio. Oh my God. What was she saying about him? Oh, everything. The truth. She was saying everything.

10:36she knew everything she knew every fucking thing okay and she said it she didn't give a fuck yeah um and what wendy did crossing over from radio to daytime was legendary yeah i have never in my life seen if you have never seen a wendy williams show just google wendy williams hot topics we're talking about a woman it's true sitting on a chair captivating an audience for 10 minutes straight just by telling stories but she also like really told the truth and i think that's like so valuable in the sense that like anything we saw a lot with like fashion police and joan like she joan used to say you're making 25 million dollars a movie i'm allowed to make fun of your dress and we very much live in like sensitive times yeah and wendy was saying stuff and now you would go back and watch you almost collect your pearls when she said some of the things that she says because in this day and age you would never fly oh no and she really was like you said you have to balance being at a network and you it's she had interviews she had people come on like you want to balance being a safe place for celebrities while also talking to your audience and making people engage and like your show and sometimes that means like saying the uncomfortable truth and she really balanced it very well well she was the black howard stern oh i love that comparison yeah so before howard stern got on um the voice our america's got talent before we ruined howard stern yeah basically yeah before we got get got gave howard stern a publicist yeah right he cleaned up his act real quick for that cash yeah and i'm not mad i'm not mad at it i respect the hustle however howard stern had carved out this really niche role for himself where america kind of let him get away with a lot of stuff i mean when you go back and watch some of those clips you guys i can't believe how hard stern in the early 2000s it is in the 90s it is the worst most misogynistic like it's fucking disgusting bitch howard stern would have women come to his studio put a speaker on the floor, have them straddle it, and have them sit on it for an hour.

12:31Like, that is some crazy shit. It's so true. And it's so wild how he's turned it around. Like, he is kind of a go-to now. You know, you do Jimmy Fallon, you do Stern, and it's really thoughtful. One of my favorite celebrity memoirs is Howard Stern's, where he, like, transcribes a lot of his old interviews and then, like, gives his takes in between. It is a great book, but it's shocking that that's the same person. It's wild. Yeah. You know, but she would have, I swear to you, If Wendy Williams had not had the people around her that she had, I think she would have stayed on TV and she wouldn't have flinched.

13:01No, I think so too. She would be the same bitch that she was day one. It is the saddest thing, like how her story ended. Did you watch that Lifetime special? I watched the dramatized version of her life. You didn't watch the – she had a reality show. Oh, yes, of course. The documentary. While she was having Graves' disease. Yes. Yes, of course, of course. I mean, one of the saddest things I've ever seen in my life. I know. No. And it doesn't get talked about enough. Like the tragedy of Wendy Williams' last couple of years on air. I know. And you know she was dealing with so much shit in her personal life.

13:29I mean, that husband had a woman around a corner. That fucking husband. It's always the husband. It's always the fucking husband. No, today's a special day because, of course, you're in the studio with me. But it's also Spotify Wrap Day, which I feel like is a big day for everyone, but especially at The Toast. And the white girls. Yeah, of course. Do you think Spotify Wrap is a white girl thing? Oh, my God. It's such a white girl, white gay thing. Oh, that's so funny. Oh, my God. It's for Brianna and Kevin. I'm cracking up. You're kind of right. It's the white game. That's why it's such a big day here at the Toast.

13:54Well, thank you to everyone for tagging us on Spotify wrapped. But it's also a great take and we find out so much. I feel like one of the funny things about like internet is that everybody acts like they're the shit, right? Like, oh, I have a million this and I have a million that. And Spotify wrapped is data. And Spotify wrapped is the numbers and it's the streams. And I think a lot of people have like overblown streams. And a lot of people make it seem like they're doing bigger and better than they are. And Spotify wrapped is kind of the, we're holding up a mirror. to everyone. Well, let's see.

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20:28Now the lists are always listing. Without a doubt, 2025 belonged to Bad Bunny. He landed a top Spotify's global top artist and global top album list for the January released, I'm going to botch this. Debbie Chirar Mas Fotos. Debbie Lovatos Las Fotos. Debbie, I mean, I am like part Latina because my name is Claudia. So Debbie Chirar Mas Fotos. He returned to the number one spot. Taylor had had it in previous years. It's always like Taylor, Bunny, Taylor, Bunny. But the interesting thing is that they have the list of top artists and then the list of top albums. Bad Bunny is on the top artist and the albums.

21:03Taylor's on the artist, but not on the albums. And she has a wide breadth of music. second i think a lot of people like go to listen to her old stuff or yeah but it is kind of interesting there were a lot of interesting things well here's the jam she also does vinyls right right so they're not counting those vinyls yeah because this is just on spotify no no all those fans are buying vinyls now so and then they have songs of the year the most interesting thing the most streamed song of the year if i gave you a million guesses i feel like you wouldn't guess it is it some tiktok song no what is it bruno mars lady gaga die with a smile which is a great song i loved it but i didn't know everybody else did everybody else loved it too i was shocked everyone else loved it um birds of a feather was number two so good

21:50and then uh wow bruno mar is occupying the top two by the way he is but he's a global artist he is we're thinking america this is globally after that was alex warren's ordinary that's a TikTok song. Do you know that one? Then Sombra's breakout hit Back to Friends. I'm unfamiliar. That's number six. And then of course, number seven, Golden from K-pop Demon Hunters. I love that song. Also, everyone take a snapshot of these numbers right now, because next year, those numbers are not going to look the same. There's a lot of controversy going on in the music industry right now explain a lot of people are um very much so um accusing labels of using bots to get people numbers to stream to stream that's why some people have lost millions and millions of streams over the last few months wait that's so interesting kind of cracking down like allegedly there's like a man in turkey that has a bot form that like record labels when they want to go ahead and juice up somebody's song.

22:49Right. They pay that person like$250 ,000 and that person gets those bots going. That's what I heard. No, that's actually really interesting, but I do want to ask you what you make of, there is a noticeable absence in these lists of your girl. Who? Beyonce. She's not on the top 50 most streamed artists. Like she didn't release music this year, so it's not uncommon for her not to be in like the album, but like Maroon 5 was on the top 50. It's crazy. And Beyonce wasn't. I found that so confusing. I also think that people were using Tidal for her, Apple Music. Oh, that's interesting. People were using Tidal for her.

23:24Yeah, you have to remember that this is. Yeah, this is only Spotify. Right, right. This is only Spotify. So other notable things were, hold on. They crowned Taylor Swift. Oh, sorry, I'm sorry. Taylor Swift was the number one most streamed artist in the U.S. In the U.S. So they do two. They do U.S. and they do global. and always global is Bad Bunny and always US is either Bad Bunny or Taylor Swift. I find the US ones more interesting just because like those are my peeps. But the number one songs, Die With a Smile, Birds of a Feather, Apata, Ordinary. Most streamed artists were Bad Bunny, then Taylor Swift, then The Weeknd, which like I know he plays everywhere.

24:05He's always on tour. Oh, he's always on tour. He's always on tour. Because I do know anyone who's like a huge The Weeknd fan, like that's their number one. Well, you have to remember this. Yeah. The Weeknd is a bar mitzvah. Yeah. Guy. Yeah, weddings. Like Bruno Mars is bar mitzvah. When you become a bar mitzvah artist, like the Black Eyed Peas. Earth, Wind & Fire. Yes. I love that comparison. Multi-generational music. Like you have those hits where people who are in their 40s, in their 30s, in their 50s, like they're all listening to it. And that's what The Weeknd is. It's bar mitzvah music. That's what I feel about the Super Bowl.

24:40Like the Super Bowl should be only for bar mitzvah artists. I completely agree. Okay, so of recent years in terms of Super Bowl performers, and I would love to get your take on Bad Bunny. Yeah. Who do you think was a good selection and who do you think like we could have lived without? This is a very big hot take and I'm going to piss a lot of people off. But the Super Bowl should only be women. Oh my God. By the way, I said that. I completely agree. I'm sexist. I'm sorry. It's for the girls. I'm sorry. It's for the girls. That's how I feel also about the national anthem. So I'm a little suspicious of Charlie Puth, who's doing it this year.

25:11It should only be for the girls. I totally agree. And I'm going to say this, and I'm going to say this loud. If you're a man performing at the Super Bowl, and out of the 14 minutes, if six is not for a pop girly R2, you have messed up. So does that mean you didn't like Usher? By the way, Usher's Bar Mitzvah music. Yeah, I agree. Usher's Bar Mitzvah music. The only thing I didn't like about Usher's performance, and I'm going to be completely honest right here, usher started on the field the cameras are everywhere yeah i didn't know where to look it was like all this vegas shit coming out i needed him to start on stage yeah a little bit more like organized a little bit more organized but again if you're bar mitzvah music i'm in yeah wow well um i love spotify wrapped i hope they keep giving us data and you know all these other youtube now does year-end information and apple does it too it doesn't hit the same Spotify invented this.

26:04I love it. It's like my favorite time of year. And you're right. I guess it is like so white woman coded. Oh, it's such white woman coded. I'm fucking cracking up. White women and white. If you get a iced latte in the wintertime, Spotify wrap is for you. Okay. I'm talking to you, Brian. I am seen. I'm talking to you, Andy. The lights. Do you know who your number one artist was? Because shockingly, mine, it's actually not shocking. I love her. I always have the same couple of people. Like Taylor's always in there. but this year I had Rascal Flats is always in there you know I'm like a country girl I love Rascal Flats love Rascal Flats this year I had a lot of Sabrina I think she was like my number one or number two artist I love her I got stuck on Tate McCray this year Tate McCray and Megan Thee Stallion yeah yeah and have you seen Tate McCray live I have not seen her live but I saw that VMA performance I used to talk so much shit about her I talked so much shit because are you talking about Tate McCray Tate McCray in the beginning I didn't understand it yeah I was like i don't know about this you guys all the songs sound the same she's just dancing too much like and then i saw on the vmas yeah and i apologize publicly no i had an opposite experience with tate mccray i just want to say i feel like for the come up i was like oh she's it she's the next thing next britney the dancing her leg goes all the way above her head but i feel like she's just kind of let me down i know she's huge i know she plays arenas and i know like all of her songs go viral but like i don't know i feel like she hasn't had real mainstream impact yet she's also very young yes yes yes but she's released like three albums in the last three years the grammy nominations just came out they hopped right over her addison ray got a nomination like everyone kind of i know it's kind of crazy it is i don't stream addison ray i don't understand addison ray but i respect addison ray by the way i'm here for the come up i'm here for anybody's come up me too i was more like down with addison ray making tiktoks and doing netflix movies that was just more my taste because I have like lowbrow taste um you don't need to agree with that but I understand like this is an art yeah I think the thing that I when I look at a pop girl everybody wants easy right now so like Sabrina Carpenter was easy you know Espresso came out everyone could sing the song okay but you're wrong about that by the way Sabrina Carpenter had released six albums before Espresso she was on the Disney track she was releasing so much music Like she, it was like a 10 year come up.

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28:26Well, let's talk about that. Let's talk about that. It happened very quickly once it happened with Espresso. Espresso made her the number one artist in the world. Let me tell you why. Those 10 albums, if you listen to those 10 albums, that woman sounds like Christina Aguilera. She has vocal range. She's giving you Christina. She's Disney. She's well-trained. She's well-trained. America couldn't handle that. Agreed. From a young woman. They couldn't handle that. So she was like, okay, just.

28:58America can digest that. They can sing it. They can put it on TikTok. Same with her dance moves. Very easy. Very, you know, she had to slow herself down for everyone else. Tate McRae has not slowed herself down yet. That's actually a really interesting parallel. Because you can't remake those dances on TikTok unless you are a dancer. Right, right. So the minute Tate McRae realizes that Britney Spears doing this was easy for America, you know what I mean? Yeah, I do. You just gotta give America something they can digest. Our next story is troublesome. I hate when people say this, okay? Travis Kelsey was talking about his relationship with Taylor Swift and he said the thing that like you're not supposed to say.

29:38It's like, you know, when somebody says something and you realize it's like the biggest red flag, him and Taylor Swift have never once had an argument during their two and a half year relationship. I don't know, girl. That picture of Lake Como looked like y 'all were fighting. Y 'all were beefing at their wedding. So they were interviewing George Clooney on their podcast. past sleigh. And then when asking Clooney about his past claim that him and his wife Amal have never gotten into an argument in their 10 years together, Kelsey flipped the script. Clooney said, no, I'm not lying. Travis, should we ask you the same question?

30:08And then Travis laughed and said, well, it's only been two and a half years, but you're right. I haven't gotten into an argument. Never once. George Clooney went on to explain that he and Amal do not see the point in arguing, noting neither of us are going to win the argument. So why get in? Dude, I'm 64 years old and what am I going to argue about at this point? You know, I've met this incredible woman. She's beautiful. She's smart. She stands for all the most important things that I believe in, in the world. And I can't believe how lucky I am. So what am I going to fight about? I believe him.

30:34I believe. Okay. Ready? I believe him. I believe George Clooney because I believe that his marriage with Amal is just like, not that deep. I took the words out of my mouth. I think she, he was like, listen, I'm 55. right i need a 40 right it works so well for both of them yeah i don't think it's the great love of our time i don't think it's you know they're not gonna write sonnets about this marriage so maybe do they not engage in arguments sure if it's true that taylor and travis and when jay shetty was on uh he wrote a book about relationships and then came on the podcast and i read something and i always like it's like the one thing i took from the book is about like communicating and if you're not fighting you're not communicating like biting a small amount of fighting a healthy amount of fighting is good in any relationship it's extremes right if you're fighting all the time that's not a good relationship it's not a healthy relationship if you're never fighting it's opposite and that's also not good somewhere in the middle is a healthy medium so Travis saying that him and Taylor never fight like I don't love that I can't lie because Taylor is like a very deep person and I do think this is a real relationship I wouldn't put it in the same box as I put George in a mall okay but you're missing one part.

31:48They met and then she went on a world tour for an entire year. Right. Right. He is also in training camp at the same time. You think they're too busy to fight? I think they were too busy to fight. I think that their relationship started a year after they actually started dating because they weren't in the same place. Right. Well, but that also not being in the same place causes a lot of fights. Not when you have a private jet picking your man up to go to Dublin to see you for two nights and then fly him back, honey. So true. If you got a G550 that can fly over that fucking Atlantic Ocean, you're Gucci, bitch.

32:22What'd you go fight about? Right. When you have a plane, that's a good point. There really isn't anything to fight about when you own a private plane. I believe she actually owns several. When you have that much money, you can eliminate a lot of the fights. So true. When are you going to come see me? Right. When am I going to see you? It doesn't take a lot. It's not like a grand gesture. You're just getting on the plane the way people get into their cars. 100%. No, I like that. That's true. These people have not really hit the one year mark of being together all the time. Here's where the trouble is going to come in.

32:51Yeah. And this is not a negative thing to say. I'm going to back this up with facts. Okay. When this man retires from football, which is coming. Yeah. Tom Brady. I'll tell you something. His check engine light is on right now. A thousand percent. He should have got that all changed two years ago. But his check engine light is on. Yeah. It's almost time. It's almost time. He's also the target of every defense. They want to make an example out of him. So he's not getting the looks that he was getting before. If you look at what happened with Tom Brady, him and Giselle were together for a very long time.

33:23He said, I'm going to retire and I'm going to be at home with these kids with you. And we're going to start to live your life. He retired. And then went right back in three months later because he couldn't figure out who he was. these men lose who they are whenever their identity is all shattered. No, and it's nice to be on the same journey as your partner, right? We're in our hustle era or we're in our quiet era. And I don't see Taylor stopping anytime soon because as a musician, you can make music until you're 80. It can be the best music you've ever made. With an athlete, you reach 40 and that's the peak.

33:59No, that's not the peak. That's the end. The end. So yeah, I do think that right now they're both in their hustle era and it's like going so well for both of them. He went to the Super Bowl. Like, it's great. And by the way, let me tell you something right now. Nothing's worse in a relationship than when a woman. Yeah, is doing better. Is doing better than a man. No matter how, you know, formed a man is. Yeah, even the strongest. Even the strongest motherfuckers. Yeah, it gets to them. It gets to them a little bit. And I think the challenge is going to come whenever he's at that pinnacle and he's got to really look inside himself and find out who he is without football.

34:39And that's when the fighting is going to start. I think they're going to get through it. Yeah. But that's where it gets like it's not so easy street. It's not so easy street. But that's also what I remember last year we were following like every Chiefs game and they just win because there's this great team. And they didn't win the last Super Bowl, correct? And that was like the first I feel like tough time for them. Like up until that point, of course, you never know what goes on behind closed doors. But up until that point, it was like all easy, love and win. Everyone loves us. Number one song.

35:06Number one team. And then it was like. Yeah. By the way, look, that private jet's getting to everybody. Yeah, right. It's easy to get comfortable. He's getting comfortable. He's also getting old. It's his time. So I also I saw somebody I think it was Liz was posted on her story. Like because I think it's always a red flag when somebody says, oh, we never fight. It's like, well, you're never talking because it's just a human thing to butt heads. And it's like, well, they obviously probably do argue, but like maybe, I don't know, maybe people have different opinions of what arguing means. I don't think, by the way, I don't know.

35:41I'm telling you right now. Also, like, let's be honest. Girls don't show their guys who they really are. Yeah, until it's too late. For a full fucking year. Men, 90 days. In 90 days, we're farting in front of you. They're doing the whole nine yards. It's like on day 91, bitch, he going to show you who he really is. Totally. Girls can keep up the charade for at least a year and a half. It's not even a time period. It's like a timeline. Like once you're married, it's over. It's over. The feathers come out. Right. The crazy. The crazy rears its ugly head. The crazy rears its ugly head. I love our next story because I've been wondering so much.

36:14You know, Jen Chow's getting out of prison this month, December 2025. She ain't got a job. Well, so I was wondering, like, how is Bravo going to engage? There's so much mystery around Jen and her return to the show. and like, where does Bravo draw the line? We've never had a situation like this where the housewife herself, it's, you know, Tom Girardi, the husband, it was Teresa and her husband, and they defrauded the government. Nobody cares when you defraud the government. This is a woman who committed the crime herself and it was pretty egregious. So what's the moral code here? How does Bravo move forward?

36:49And Angie Cohen has opened his mouth about it. And I was really surprised at his take. he said absolutely not please stop asking me he put his foot down hard he's he said no he said cut the camera he said not only are we of course not like it was so obvious stop asking me like don't even bring it up anymore stop asking i was shocked now her team has like been you know releasing these statements about her growth she's done a lot of reflecting and growth during her time away. She's not the same woman she was before. Her focus is on family, building a healthier, more grounded life. And she understands the seriousness of her mistakes.

37:31But Andy said, absolutely not. This is my hot take. I have no information on this, but I'm just going to say it. I bet that Jen Shaw, when she saw or heard about what was happening on that season, the amount of legal letters and amount of invoices and amount of emails that she must have sent to Bravo. Yeah, of course. Must have been. From inside the walls. Literally, she had the amount of shit she must have caused at that network while this season was airing and showing what she was doing. Must have been so insane that she cannot even walk through that building. The interesting thing about that franchise, though, is that it's so popular right now.

38:19And they had this benchmark moment. When we think of the crazy things that have happened on Housewives, Jen Shaw getting Homeland Security. Started it. Swatting the – and the way that that season wasn't even popular, the way it is now. The show has really thrived without her. It's crazy. And I think maybe the network can say, no, we're not going to have her because they don't really need her. The show is crushing. where you would have thought like the season and then the season where she was on trial, like the housewives like never even, they're all fighting with each other about some other dumb shit.

38:46Nobody was even asking her like, hey bitch, did you defraud the elderly? Yeah. Like not the disabled. Like nobody even asked her, like they totally dropped the ball. It was like kind of the worst season ever when it should have been this like - Big season. Insane. That scene on the Sprinter van was insane. And then everything after that was like not. It was crazy. So I just feel like they actually don't even need her. But I'm like pleasantly surprised that we're not going to condone this type of behavior and like make her a star. I'm all set on my Jen Shaw. Yeah, I think I'm good without Jen Shaw.

39:12But then you know who this is not good news for? Who? Wendy Osefo. But again, she wasn't. She wasn't. She's innocent until proven guilty. And she wasn't defrauding the elderly. No, she was defrauding Saks. Yeah. The insurance companies. Yeah, you know what I mean? Right, do we care? No. I wonder like what, well, of course she's, you know, innocent until proven guilty, although the evidence is astounding. What do you make of that situation? i hope that there is something else going on first and foremost wendy has four degrees yeah husband is a lawyer how you could be so stupid i just want if you're going to be a criminal i just want you to crime harder right be a good one i want you to be a good criminal yeah i just want you to have put some effort into it because if this case is that shut and dry right like your husband's a lawyer and you're literally writing emails to each other about the crime you're about to commit it's so stupid i'm pissed yeah you know what i mean like i just i want to know that you tried harder yeah so it can't be that easy so i'm gonna believe that wendy is innocent i know even though like i was i like read it's really like it's really terrible it's bad and the thing is i actually think she's a great housewife so it's a loss for the community like i actually didn't think jen shot was a great housewife i don't think she contributed a lot to the show outside of her trial yeah um where it's like wendy came on the scene when she was slithering like you know karen huger like she's a good housewife she contributes i think that wendy is gonna let this play out I don't think she's going to ginshaw it in the sense that she's going to give them a lot of headache for what they're showing, what they're not showing.

40:42However, I grew up on A &E. I watched Intervention. I watched people smoke heroin at 7 o 'clock. I was on Scared Straight. You know what? If we're going to have all these cons, let's show it. It's actually true. Because also Karen Huger, she's just been released for her DUIs. Will she be on the program? Yes. She's my Bravo con. Oh, was she? She's my fucking favorite. She is the fucking greatest. Also didn't hurt anybody. Right, right. You know what I mean? Thank God. But also that is her journey. This is her reality. Right, and it's a reality show. And it's a reality show. So of course, out of six women, one of them is going to be a criminal.

41:17Right. It's always the one in Jimmy Choo's. You know, it's sort of just like physics, math. Yes, it's math. It's girl math. One out of six housewives. It's girl math. Next up is your favorite girl. Who? Meghan Markle. so so you know she has a new season of with love and it came out today um so nobody's really like watched it in full yet but harry has made an appearance like thank god showing up for work today he made an appearance in season three um the duke of sussex made a surprise appearance on with love she did it's not like a new season it's like a holiday which is smart batch of episodes it's called with love megan colon holiday celebration he timed it well coming in just in time to try some of the food that her and the celebrity guest tom colicchio were cooking up he walked in and he sells he walked in and he said this is what he said i smelled gumbo shut up first of all hold on hold on hold the fucking phone yeah she invited a white man to make a gumbo in her house and i'm from louisiana how does that make you feel triggered yeah offensive it's offended he didn't smell anything but water right he said i smelled gumbo he gave Megan a quick kiss and then introduced himself to Tom he said gumbo for me is like one of my favorites especially her mom's but before the fish goes in what he doesn't eat fish by the way nobody should be putting fish in their gumbo so Doria her mom um I guess has like a world famous gumbo she always saves a little portion on the side I guess without fish yeah you're saying gumbo shouldn't have fish no it has sausage right you can put sausage you can put gumbo i mean you could put shrimp you can put you know i hope he's talking about shrimp so this is what if you're curious i know you oh you're a big gumbo fan yeah okay so doria puts in an andu and dual sausage and dewey sausage um my mom this is what she said my mom does the turkey sausage for harry so this one has more kick in it i'll give you a towel he's going to start sweating so first it's like spicy this one has salt in it he might start sweating harry tried the dish he admitted i can feel it puncturing through the top of my head right now it's delicious i'm not sure it's as good as your mom's, but it's certainly close.

43:24In front of Tom Colicchio, he said that? Yep. Damn, he has zero moral compass. The comment sparked a lot of false outrage, according to E! News, from Megan before she conceded, my mom will love you. What a good thing for you to say to your mother-in-law. Hilarious. This is so, like, I have to watch it because the way that they're just transcribing it, like, feels awkward. Here's a jam. That show's, like, all it's fair. Oh, yeah. Everyone's hate watching it. It's so bad, it's so good. It's so bad, it's so good. Yeah. And I'm hooked. Yeah, you are. And I'm excited for season two. They were in for season two.

43:52I couldn't, by the way, after you get past episode one, episode one and episode two, I'm not going to lie. Not great. Not great. Three on, get ready. So I just finished last night. I'm just caught up with the new season of Kardashians where she's filming All's Fair while filming the Kardashians. And it does make a compelling case for the show. And, you know, the women are so tight. And it's a real friendship, like Sarah Paulson, Teyana Taylor, and Kim. Like, it's real. so I want it to do well like so that they can all hang out again it's gonna do well yeah here's the thing I think that they put her again don't quote me on this this is just my professional opinion I think Ryan Murphy was like you are gonna lead the show you're gonna be number one on the call sheet it's gonna be this big thing I think she got in that arena I think they gave her way too much dialogue in the first two episodes way too much they went back to the writer's room and said Like, you know what?

44:45Let's dial it back a little bit. Let's meet her where she is. And now in three, four, and five, it's become more about Sarah Paulson's character. Right. Nisi Nash. Nisi Nash. Character development for the others. And, you know, they put all the other ones in the forefront and they give her just enough lines. To make her relevant. To make her relevant, but also to meet her where she is. That's good. And I love it. I think it's great now. Are you watching the new, I was talking about this yesterday with Joey Camasta on Max, the heated rivalry show. i'm reading the book oh you are okay so are you gonna read the book before i don't know if i can watch it if it's anything like the book i think it is so let me tell you what happened have you have you i know what i haven't watched and i haven't read the book i literally heard about the show yesterday and now it's everywhere i see everyone's talking about it it's based on a romance novel and you're currently reading the novel claudia clutching your brawls claudia i almost lost my job yesterday.

45:40Why? Because of this book. Okay. First of all, for all the straights out there, it's Fifty Shades of Grey, but for gay. A homosexual. It's homosexual. Hobo-sesha. As my aunt would say, homo-sesha. I was listening to the book on audio. Okay. We know you love an audio book. I love an audio book. I have my ear pods in, in the makeup room my phone was like maybe 20 feet away from me 20 yards like 10 yards away from me i'm listening to it i'm getting my makeup done and it starts on the sex scene there's always a sex scene of course but it's so graphic it's an erotic novel and all of a sudden i hear power off on my headset which means it's playing on the phone it's playing on the fucking phone Uma Thurman is two chairs down from me.

46:34Oh, God. The way I jumped from my phone onto the makeup chair next to me. Pass Uma Thurman to press pause on this thing. My finger literally hit the pause button. It is the hottest book you have ever read. Can I ask you a question about the audiobook? Yeah. Because a lot of times they like take liberties with the audiobook where they have multiple people playing different characters. is it like a drama it's one person and it's dramatized and it's a man it's a man and he does a russian accent you're kidding and he does an american accent one of the guys is russian one of them is canadian oh my god he's so good at it you're kidding that's so funny and by the way in the in the prologue before it even fucking starts they're fucking they're fucking wow they are fucking in the credits in the index okay that's fucking in the index the title page yeah how's Fuck it.

47:26Wow. And so you're going to finish the book and then watch a show. I don't think I need the show at this point. Apparently there's like a tuna melt scene. Have you gotten to that? I am not there yet. Okay. But I'm going to tell you something. You don't even need the show. Yeah. Are you watching I Love L.A.? I'm not, but it's come across my HBO Max many times. Do I need to be? I feel like I'm a little old for it. No, do it. Okay. Do it. It's good. Claudia, it's so good. Is that your current like obsession? That's my current. That's like my current girl right now. That and Marmon Wives. Oh, okay.

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53:39They look like they beat them up and then made them take pictures. So Queen Jessie is giving a little bit of insight. She said they made a TikTok. They released her reunion looks. And obviously, I was horrified by the photos. They make us take the photos at the end of the day when we're all so done. And when you watch the reunion, you're going to know why I feel and look the way that I do. She said the reunion was explosive. And then when they make you get up after the reunion, the last thing she wanted to do was smile for the camera. Next year, we're going to make sure we take really good photos.

54:08And hopefully those are the ones that they use. I mean, I did see the photos. And you know, I'm like a negative person. I was like, does everybody here look horrible? Everyone's curl is like... Yeah, the curls have fallen. The makeup, they're pale. like the spray tan's faded. I was like wondering why it looked so turned because I saw the reunion trailer and Stassi was there and everyone looked very pretty. Yeah. And I wonder, you probably know this better than me, when they do the Housewives pictures, I know they do the group photo at the end. They do everybody before. But is the group photo at the end?

54:35The group photo is always at the end. Because sometimes some people are like, they say, yeah, they don't leave. But the individual like outfit shots. Before. As you should. Well, they're smart. They've been doing this for 20 years. Yeah. You know what I mean? You know what else they don't do at the reunion? Play the sound? No, no, they play the sound. But you used to, when I first started going with Kyle, I could be in the room. I could see the reunion. Yeah. Like you were like on stage. Yes. There was a moment. I don't know if you remember this. Teresa, her hairstylist was backstage and overheard something that Melissa had said on a hot mic and told Teresa.

55:10And then Teresa went to confront Melissa. Off camera or on? On camera. I don't know if you remember this. It doesn't sound familiar. But ever since that incident, there's no more, like you can't hear anything. No, you can see it, but you can't hear it. So when I, I was reading Andy's book and it's like a million years ago, it's a diary and something he writes every day. And he was talking about how they're having a big issue with all the reunions with things getting leaked. And he was like, so we had the idea because there are monitors in everyone's dressing room. So hair and makeup stays in the dressing room, but they can watch on the monitor.

55:39He was like, we had this audio pulled. So it's on mute. So hair and makeup can see because they need to see if somebody is like looking turnt. but they turned off all the audio and he was like, we stopped having leaks immediately. No, it's crazy. But did you watch Orange County this season? No, I didn't. Bitch. What happened? Oh, you just have to watch Reunion. Yes. Oh my God. There is the biggest plot twist. I don't want to ruin it for anybody. Oh, you're kidding. There is the biggest plot twist. It's Orange County is an hour, you know, like normal housewives. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And when you watch the finale, you're like, oh my God, why is this an hour and 10 minutes?

56:13That's a weird programming. Extra 10 minutes. Yeah, what's an extra 10 minutes for? There's a phone call between podcasters, like a blogger, and these cast members. And they basically expose one of the housewives as a leak. Oh, shit. And what happens is this person starts coming with dates and storylines and things that, like, people met up on this date. And it's so crazy. And this is the crazy part. Yeah. The housewife that they have, you know, basically. in question has no idea this conversation has happened oh so she shows up to the reunion so she goes goes to the reunion they go through like 10 hours of the reunion at hour 11 they play back this tape and four of the seven housewives know that this has happened because they were there yep and this one housewife has no clue it is magic so you've been to a reunion taping yeah how long are they like 14 hours oh my god and you just sit in the dressing room I used to go.

57:14I don't go anymore. Yeah. You know, you're busy. And by the way, it's really hard to watch your best friend go through something like that, especially back in the day. When she was like the Kim stuff. The Kim stuff. You know, it was the Lisa Vanderpump of it all. It was like the Brandi Glanville. Oh, my God. I just saw a video of Brandi Glanville for the first time in a really long time. She got bangs. It's really tough. Yeah. You know, that was hard for me. And it's something I never want to do again because it's like, you know, it's an emotional day. No, and it's like a train wreck. Like you can't intervene.

57:51You can't help. You just have to watch. You just have to watch. Yikes. And then like, you know, she comes to the sideline and you could tell she's just beat up and defeated. Yeah. And it's hard. So I could, the hair and makeup people like go forward. They're making, they're getting a check. Yeah, right, right, right. You know, it's many hours. As a friend, it's like, I just wanted to get like a getaway car. I don't need to watch you suffer for free. I don't need to watch you suffer for free. So now what I do is I meet up at the house after. Get the tea. I just let her unload. Yeah, of course. You know what I mean?

58:20Yeah. And they used to do this thing. It was like a tradition. No matter how hard it was. They all went to dinner. They all used to go to dinner together. Not anymore. And not anymore. Yikes. Because it's tough. So I've been watching Bravo like my whole life. And when I was in high school, I grew up in the city. Real Housewives of New York was like in its heyday. It was like when this happened, it was like the Crispin Takeman years. And I went out to dinner. I was at, I remember, Hunt and Fish Club, like, in Times Square area. And all the ladies walked in, and it was their, like, post-reunion dinner.

58:47I think it was, like, Kristen Takeman. Bethany was there. I think it was the season that, like, Ramona threw a glass at Kristen Takeman when she was, like, swimming in the lake. And I can tell you I've never been more excited in my whole life. Like, it was the best night of my life. Oh, no, it's crazy. I don't think they do it anymore. Most of the OG franchises, like, a lot of the women, they just can't fucking stand each other. What do you make of Melissa and Teresa's reunion? At this point, I don't care what was the catalyst. It was time. Yeah. It was time. Do you think it's real, though? Or they just want to get back on camera because the show is like not picked up cameras?

59:17I think it's real. You do? Yeah. I think it's real. Oh, I'm like a negative person. So I think it's fake. I think it's real. You know, I think that somebody had good intention. I think that they were probably waiting for Teresa to apologize for so many years. And she probably wouldn't. Right. And she finally was like, here's an olive branch. Right. And they were like, this is the closest we're going to get to an apology. Let's just move on. Let's just move on. It's taken too much time and it's taken too much energy. But they all rely on like on that money a lot. They all do rely on that money a lot.

59:44It's pretty scary. I know. Also, reality TV with your family is not the greatest idea. A hundred percent. It never goes well. It never goes well. And honestly, like it always comes out. Right. Especially if you're going into it like fractured. Yeah. Which I feel like Kim and Kyle were when they first started. Like they were not in a good place. Of course. It's just. It was wild. I mean, that's my first year in L.A. That's insane. It was. Were you at any of the filming for season one? Yeah. So my whole existence there, there was a group of gay guys. So Lisa had a gay. Taylor had a gay. Cedric. Taylor had a gay.

1:00:26And Adrian Maloof had a gay. And they were basically all trying to figure out how to get a spinoff. Each of the housewives. The gays. Oh, that's fucking funny. The fucking gays were trying to like, one gay was like, we should all band together. It's a good idea. We should all figure this out. Yeah. And I immediately was turned off by it because I didn't want her to think. You were like encroaching and being thirsty. Exactly. So if you see me as season one, I'm normally hiding in the background. Right. Just because I never wanted her to feel like I was there for something else. Moocher. Yeah. And then those gays all basically went away and I just kind of stuck around.

1:01:05But I was kind of scared. you know, to be on camera. Of course. For a season. Even just getting mic'd up. Like, you forget that it's on. No, no. And all you need is one hot mic. All you need is one rogue comment. All it takes is one fucking hot mic. I mean, Lisa Barlow. Lisa, Lisa. The rant. Lisa Barlow. With her fucking whore family posing. By the way, can you imagine? No. But it's... I know, it's like a human thing. Like, you get mad, you just rant to your husband and you rant to whoever and you don't mean it, but like, yeah and let me tell you working on that first season of housewives i went into that job not knowing what she was doing what was your job technically were you her assistant yeah it was like her right hand man she told me that she was doing a reality show when i first met her she didn't tell me what reality show it was so when i first met her she was like yeah i'm just gonna do this reality show i just need you for like three or four months ever told you this story no i go to interview with her she was like oh yeah i'm gonna need you for like three or four months how did you like know she was looking for an assistant so my i was i worked weddings in louisiana every weekend and one of my bridesmaids was ally landry who basically was like you should move to la i have this girlfriend who's starting this reality show and i think you would really hit it off with her and i was like well i mean i was thinking about moving in may she was like well what are you doing in january i'm like i'm graduating college she was like just move oh my So I was like, okay.

1:02:30So I moved to LA and when I got to her house, I mean, I was a wreck. Yeah. I was like, so when are we going to like meet your friend? She was like, oh, I haven't told her that you're here or that, you know, she doesn't know she needs someone, but I think you guys will hit her off. So in my mind, I'm like, wait, I just blew my fucking life up for like, you know, for a maybe. Yeah. So I got a headhunter just in case because the meeting kept on getting pushed back and pushed back. I met with this woman. she is an A-list actress are you not going to tell me who it is I'm not going to tell you who it is I went on an interview with her manager and then the second interview was at this woman's house with her I walk in this house there's a vanity about the size of that wall I'd never seen a mirror with those balls it's old Hollywood and this woman is sitting in her mirror and it's all white in the bathroom.

1:03:28And she is putting lotion on her elbows. I'll never forget this. And her titties are out. Like she's not wearing a shirt. The housekeeper was like, oh, she'll see you now. So you thought you interrupted. No, no. The housekeeper escorted me up. And this woman is sitting there with her titties out. Meanwhile, I'm like, I'm a gay man, bitch. Right. I work retail. Right. I've seen some titties. You've seen it all. I've seen some titties. Yeah. I'm not afraid of no titties. No, I don't think that you are. We're having a full conversation. Titties out. Titties out, LaMare. And she is not looking at me like this.

1:04:03She's looking at me in the window. And she is lathering that shit on. Oh, my God. So at the end of the interview, she goes, anything else? I said, yeah, you missed a spot. And I point at her back and I leave. And by the time I got in the car, she had hit me up. She wanted me to start. Did you accept? So I was like, I went home to Allie. I was living at Allie's house. I was like, listen, bitch, this just happened to me. I don't care if this woman is paying in rupees. I'm fucking taking this job. I want to be with this crazy woman for at least a year. She was like, no, I swear to you, this meeting with Kyle is going to come up.

1:04:41So crazy LaMere, bitch, I put on the back burner. I kept on pushing her off, pushing her off. We kept on negotiating back and forth. I meet with Kyle and she was like, yeah, it's going to be three buds. And I'm like, I don't know, crazy LaMere lady's like, you know. More stable. So Allie was like, think about it this way. If you take the job with Kyle, you'll learn so much on the back end about production and you'll meet people in the industry. Like, you should really take that job. And I'm like, you know what? You haven't steered me wrong. I'm going to trust you. I'm going to take this fucking job.

1:05:11I show up at this bitch's house on day one. They're like, can you sign this release form? And I'm like, yeah. Sign the release form. And when I read the top of the release form, I was like, holy shit. Yeah. It's Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Oh, and you had heard of the franchise, like from New York. Yes. I go to her house. I get in the house. And I'm like, listen, ma 'am, like, you don't know me from Adam. We have met one time at a sushi restaurant. But this is not just some random reality show. Your life is about to change. Right. And you got to play this smart. Yeah. And she was like, what do you mean?

1:05:46I'm like, three months is not enough. you have to do confessions then you have to do reunions then we got to fuck with all these people on twitter like this is gonna be crazy like brand deals and she was like oh wait i just thought i was gonna just film this fun reality show with my sister is in it'll be so she ends up going it's like day three of my of my job there and in her mind she's still having me for three months right i'm packing her for new york camille is inviting everybody to la caja I said, you know, before you get on this plane, I'm going to tell you, Camille Grammer is going to come for you in New York.

1:06:25Be prepared. She was like, I don't know. I don't think you're right. I'm like, I swear to you, Camille is the Queen Bee of Malibu. You are the Queen Bee of Beverly Hills. It's going to be she's going to come for you. They always do it. It's it's it's women textbook. Right. She was like, ha ha. Just make sure. She goes to New York. I get a phone call eight hours later. She's crying. She's like, I fucking cursed. I said, you're such a fucking liar, Camille. I can't believe I cursed on camera. Like, oh my God. That's so funny. I was like, bitch, just so you know, that line is iconic. I'm telling you right now, it's going to be fucking iconic.

1:07:03You're such a fucking liar, Camille. She came home. She was like, don't go anywhere. Wow. You're going to be here for a year. I never knew the Justin Sylvester origin story. The more you know. Smoking a Capri with Allie Landry. Not a Capri. smoking a capri not an electric cigarette at a wedding no just a little skinny one obsessed I know I love her I love you I love you too and I love chatting with you did I do all the stories did we do five yeah right Spotify Prince Harry yeah we did it okay things we did wait a good little time tell everyone about where they can watch you on Sunday you guys Peacock 8pm Eastern Standard Time you don't want to miss it Heather Gay myself Boston Rob Kate Chastain it's going to be a good one it's for the guys who love football and the girls who pretend they do.

1:07:46Yeah. So come right on in. Even the girls who pretend they don't. Like it's a perfect thing for husbands and wives, boyfriends and girlfriends to watch together. By the way, you ain't got to know shit. I don't know shit. Totally. Well, Justin, I love you. I love you too. Guys, thank you so much for listening to The Toast, the millennial morning show where we deliver the fast five stories that you need to know every Monday through Friday on YouTube. So if you're watching this on YouTube, please feel free to subscribe and give this video a thumbs up. We're also available as a podcast anywhere podcast to be found.

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