Yolito Wesmandoval: Wednesday, May 27th, 2026

7:26Jackie Oshry:You know, one time I saw Lauren Elizabeth doing the craziest thing ever. But the more I think about it, the more kind of genius it was. I never knew. Lauren Elizabeth is ahead of her time. She is. Ready for this. She has an Apple TV like in her bedroom. And by the way, this is before she came to my mom, so I don't know why she was doing it. But she connected her AirPods to her TV.

7:43Claudia Oshry:Yes, I saw she did that once.

7:45Jackie Oshry:That's kind of brilliant. Like if your kids are sleeping, the light of the TV might not wake them up, but the sound will.

7:49Claudia Oshry:So if you could connect your AirPods, it's like surround sound. No, it's brilliant, especially if you have a newborn or something. However, I don't use AirPods anymore. And if you are having a newborn, you shouldn't use them around them if you care about such things. Right. just watch TV you know yeah right just watch

8:10Jackie Oshry:also newborns will sleep through anything

8:11Claudia Oshry:I need a cord connecting all the way to my TV they definitely sell that on Amazon

8:15Jackie Oshry:like a hundred foot head phone what else can we talk about before we talk about like the thing you know

8:21Claudia Oshry:yeah oh we had a fun day yesterday we mahjonged and then we went to the mall oh we did go to the mall we bought out the entire children's floor of Macy's shout out to Macy's those were some killer

8:32Jackie Oshry:deals

8:32Claudia Oshry:yeah I don't know how many deals I got because I did drop well yeah you did drop

8:36Jackie Oshry:four figures but on like a whole new year-long wardrobe for your three children yeah it's pretty

8:43Claudia Oshry:good it's pretty good yeah i love the mall i know we really like did it well yesterday too like we mauled with purpose it's such a suburban like and i feel like i was talking about this when i went on

8:54Jackie Oshry:or when suzy weiss came on the podcast that like malls are back and they're really good for gen z because it's like offline uh-huh irl like things that seem so obvious like to us when i see like a bunch of girls like walking through the mall with victoria's secret shopping bags i'm like you guys didn't even know how good your life is. Like, that's the best part of your life. And I saw a lot of teenagers yesterday. It was very encouraging. Yeah. Get your kids. Just drop them off at the mall. Yeah. Maybe don't drop them off, like, wait outside or something. But, you know.

9:17Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Depending on how old they are. Predators lurking. Stay back, like, 100 feet. You know, eyes in the back of your head. But it was so Mali. Like, the kids were at, like, Aritzia. Yeah. And we were definitely, like, at the after school, like, time. Oh, timing. Yeah. And we got ice cream.

9:28Jackie Oshry:It was just, like, so Mali.

9:35Claudia Oshry:Yeah, for me, not going to cut it. They did also have a Haagen-Dazs. Yeah, like it wasn't for, they literally couldn't have dreamed of a better snack for the kids because they thought they had ice cream, but they really just had like something. Dairy-free ice cream.

9:48Jackie Oshry:It said dairy-free? Yes. Okay. Like that's insane. Like go have a pizza or something, like something else. If you're dairy-free, you can't have pizza. Well, yes, no, for me, like I don't know what really box checks,

10:01Claudia Oshry:but like for the children, it was great. It was like no sugar alcohol. of course of course artificial flavors no natural flavors like no nothing it was literally just like flavored ice that looks like ice cream thank you flavored ice yeah it was like a snow cone thank

10:13Jackie Oshry:you um what else what else i'm just like trying not to say my summer house thoughts but i guess

10:18Claudia Oshry:like we could we could get into it i don't see why not it was like so thin i know but like that's

10:23Jackie Oshry:because we have to get into things you know i had a weird lunch yesterday i feel like there was some sort of mix-up in the kitchen i have my lunch yeah i was there yeah like i had a burrito bowl which i love and I got chicken on it and when it came like you just said that like I pick Clark I do I pick Clark I got chicken I pick Clark she got chicken I actually really realized I don't want to tell my lunch story like try being an influencer for a day yeah I actually want to not only do I

10:54Claudia Oshry:want to get into summer house but the rest of the stories like are fucking hysterical like they're It's so random in a good way. Let's do it. In a good way. And I want to get into everything. So without further ado-da-da-da-do, it is time for the Fast Five Stories that you do need to know.

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17:00Claudia Oshry:Our first story, Summer House Reunion Recap Part One, Biggest Bombshells and Such.

17:08Jackie Oshry:So I did appreciate the layout, right? Because we We didn't actually get like everyone seated till the 17 minute mark. And I was like, damn, that's annoying because we're just like missing out.

17:14Claudia Oshry:No, no, no. But the way that they brought us in, like I really appreciated. You know what it reminded me of? What?

17:20Jackie Oshry:When Lindsay and Kyle were like on the couch, they found out in confessionals. Oh, like Kim and Chloe. Yes. With who was that? Jordan and Tristan. It was very meta. I thought it was well done. And it is interesting how they all called each other. I do believe that like they are really close off camera, which makes this whole situation. And I feel like Jesse Solomon's like getting a lot of shit for crying. Like, but I know what he's saying. Like we had this great friend group and like now it's ruined.

17:41Claudia Oshry:No, I know. Jesse Solomon breaks my heart. He's like, he's a devastating character. I feel like he needs to date Margot and become a part of our family. I feel like he needs us. Did you feel that way?

17:52Jackie Oshry:I was jamming with him last night. He was loving my coverage on my Instagram stories. So like Jesse, reach out.

17:56Claudia Oshry:Yeah. Like I feel like he needs the brothers. Yeah. He needs like ours. A ruach. Yeah, he does. I really feel like he does. And I think him and Margot would get along, even though I was sort of getting vibes last night. Jesse and Mia. Anyone?

18:07Jackie Oshry:I just fucking love that Mia. and like I'm so glad they had a moment to be like you're an amazing addition I didn't realize how close her and Sierra were like they live in the same building um and I love that I think like both of them need each other and it's a great friendship and she's doing a really good job of like supporting Sierra without like you know making it about her without also going too far and like that's sort of what happened with Scandaval and I don't want to get there I feel like we like the very last thing Sierra said in the last episode like was really mean and I just don't want to get to that place where like Amanda's the victim yeah um and so you do have to be really cautious because I do think that at least for me like ariana was so mean to raquel at least raquel was sympathetic like she was sorry amanda's like not sorry so she's hard to feel bad for but like it got to a place where i was like oh my god what's the next thing you guys are gonna tell this girl to kill herself like yeah it was such a pile on so you do have to be really careful yes you do and also last

18:54Claudia Oshry:night i was realizing there's some i go through phases of being like this is the biggest deal ever and then also like no everyone was single you know and it's like no one did a cry understand why like Amanda like thought this it was okay to like sort of process her feelings like and even entertain this idea whereas like Scandafall was an affair yeah on a 10 years long relationship sleeping in her bed when her grandmother said like it was so scandalous and when Wes said this isn't a sex scandal like I actually understood what he meant it's just like two like softies immature people who are like having feelings for each other like a couple of middle schoolers yeah

19:32Jackie Oshry:But that was his, I feel like their approach was like to really downplay it. Being like, it's a good, it's a good approach. It is. It is. But at the end of the day, it really dismisses like how hurt so many people are. Everyone is finding a way to make this about themselves. But like, I do feel like everybody. It's not really, it's not really a stretch of the truth. Like Jesse Solomon is devastated, even though he wasn't betrayed, you know, but he was the way that they just lied to everyone.

19:55Claudia Oshry:Like, and at what I can understand you're in a bad spot. Yeah. We like each other and we don't know how to go about it. But there are no way that they went about it would have ended in everyone loving them and it all working out. But there are better ways to go about it than what they like. Lying is the worst way. What they everyone what they really should have done was like shelved their feelings. Yeah. For a while. Until this summer. And like let us watch them fall in love. And maybe maybe we could root for them. Yeah. And let us watch her telling Sierra like I'm having feelings for West. I don't know what to do.

20:30Claudia Oshry:I love you so much. you're my best friend but like you know this is how I feel and like let us decide it was weird

20:37Jackie Oshry:that like when Andy when first of all like I just feel awkward around West and Amanda like they're

20:41Claudia Oshry:just miserable and seeing them like we never saw them together as a couple yeah and like when he

20:44Jackie Oshry:just walks in like gives her a kiss on the cheek and they're just like sitting there lying on each other like I as a couple like we never like I know we've heard about West Amanda yeah but we

20:51Claudia Oshry:never saw it before it's not we've only seen her with one partner over 10 years and someone who she didn't even like like it's actually and we never see him because god forbid he's someone's boyfriend it's actually was like a shock comfortable to see the two of them together

21:06Jackie Oshry:they're so obsessed with the timeline like that's really all that they care because i guess

21:10Claudia Oshry:and i guess they want to make clear that it wasn't an affair and that things really didn't get

21:15Jackie Oshry:physical for a while it's actually said that they didn't have sex until after the statement i thought

21:20Claudia Oshry:that was so crazy you put out a statement and you ruined your life for such a let's say that that's

21:24Jackie Oshry:true like how do you really even know that you liked each other you're basically saying like you

21:27Claudia Oshry:kissed and then wrote a statement well i think that they have been like fighting their feelings for months yeah the thing is and like having intimate moments maybe kissing like knowing we shouldn't we should you know we have forbidden love for months and then they put out the statement they felt free like they did what they needed to do and they stopped lying and then they could really consummate the relationship yeah well the thing is no if you if they had handled this

21:56Jackie Oshry:in any other way like there is an argument to be made that it's like seriously like star-crossed lovers like it could be romantic but now it's if they look like they have like survivor's guilt and they're just like clinging to one another for reasons i genuinely don't understand yes if done correctly, which is borderline impossible to do.

22:16Claudia Oshry:Borderline impossible.

22:16Jackie Oshry:I could see a group of the fandom rooting for it. It's inconvenient, but it's their truth. Yes. Yes. But now because they did it so dirty, like lying to Jesse Solomon.

22:26Claudia Oshry:And Sierra asked explicitly holding hands, kissing this. And she says correct. Because you could say we're not hooking up. Because they were not hooking up. A couple smooches, an emotional love story. You're not lying, but you're omitting. We're not hooking up. When she's asked point blank, and we know that at that point Sierra already knew because she had seen a video.

22:43Jackie Oshry:And that's why she texted Amanda being like, so there's not any photos or videos of it?

22:46Claudia Oshry:And also people are like, I think they slept together first because Sierra saw a video of them like hooking up. Right. But they were probably just making out on the couch. They probably, they weren't having sex. It wasn't a sex tape.

22:54Jackie Oshry:No, I don't think so.

22:55Claudia Oshry:Probably making out on the couch. Yeah. Or the bed. Like making out.

22:59Jackie Oshry:No, I know that they have to like talk about other things in the season because it's only part one and I'm sure part three will be dedicated to this completely. But I appreciated that we got like a chunk in the beginning and I was ready to like seriously like start scrolling on my phone going to sleep when they started talking about like shit that happened over the summer but I was sat the fuck down for Bailey v. Ben. Like, Sat. I don't know, I didn't like, I didn't know any of this was like bubbling under the surface but you know what, she was raising a couple of good points and it's like yeah, you are like up all the guys' ass but you love to like come after the women.

23:25Jackie Oshry:Yeah. And you know what, even though it was really fucking weird what Amanda said being like Ben wants to have sex with me, like he went really hard. He really enjoyed dressing her down. Yeah, he did and you could tell he was almost like fighting the urge not to continue yelling at Bailey as she's calling him out for yelling at girls.

23:37Claudia Oshry:You know what? Slay mama. No, and even then they cut to that scene with Sabrina where he's like, how are we going to get our fucking kids to school? And it's like in a different light that like seems like funny, but it actually is like just very harsh.

23:48Jackie Oshry:It's a harsh wave.

23:49Claudia Oshry:You're already criticizing her as a mother. She's your girlfriend for two months.

23:51Jackie Oshry:And like you're late, like to go out to a bar, like it's a bar. It'll still be there in five minutes. Yeah.

23:56Claudia Oshry:And I never thought anything of him. Red flag, green flag, no flag. Now I hate him. Now I'm like, she's really onto something.

24:03Jackie Oshry:Yeah. I feel like she like clocked him. Yeah. And nobody else did because there was so much going on this summer.

24:07Claudia Oshry:Of course, Levi Kreevite did as well. That's my queen right there.

24:09Jackie Oshry:I just want to say them bringing in Levi before bringing in Dara, who's like dating one of the cast members.

24:15Claudia Oshry:We need to talk about Dara and KJ because like there's been, have you seen what the other cast members have been saying about them? Like I saw a clip of Levi a couple of weeks ago doing like virtual reality.

24:24Jackie Oshry:Okay, not Levi like actually starting stuff once the season's over.

24:26Claudia Oshry:And she said, she was asked about KJ and Dara because I guess like other people had like said some things.

24:32Jackie Oshry:Oh, sorry. I just want to say Bailey bringing up that he thinks that Sabrina and Ben were dating the entire time, which is like a very common theory. Like, yes, thank you for bringing that up.

24:39Claudia Oshry:Yeah. And that's that's the only reason why he flipped about Amanda because of his girlfriend back home. Yeah. And now it all makes sense. But don't try and lie to us. I don't care that you honestly, if he was dating her, pretending not to be on the show. I really don't care. But if it affected the way you treated Bailey, who's like actually the sweetest, most innocent, harmless person on this cast. She's very harmless. And that's who you decide to take your ire out on. No. OK, go back to Levi. So Levi, she was asked about Dara and KJ. And apparently other people had like cast sense and things about their relationship.

25:09Claudia Oshry:And so she said something. Saying what? Like doubting that they're real? She is real about him doubting that. And she said something to that effect. Like I think he's in it, but she's not. Oh my God. Yeah. And it's like they did KJ's package where he shared a lot about like his mental health struggles and his anxiety. And are we coming back to KJ and Dara or was that it on KJ? No, of course. Once Dara gets seated. but like is Dara at the reunion

25:32Jackie Oshry:she has to take Levi's spot at some point

25:34Claudia Oshry:she got dressed she got dressed people saw a picture of her yes okay I also want to say I really like I just want to say Levi just always makes me smile I don't know if it's because she has the same name as my nephew that is why but like I love her

25:47Jackie Oshry:she was doing a good job at the reunion like where was all of this energy I don't know I saw a tweet a while ago

25:52Claudia Oshry:that was like during the season that was like maybe only Bailey can see Levi

25:58Jackie Oshry:that's our imaginary friend totally Back to KJ really quickly. You know what? We'll ask her when she comes on Namesake where the energy was. When he was talking about how he's actively struggling with self-harm, that was really sad. I do feel like he should leave the show. People don't talk about how reality TV will lead you to that place. And I know you're supposed to do all these psych evals before going on TV. And they're all fake or whatever. But I actually really worry, especially this show. Bravo has really fucking crazy. And he's sort of ancillary. And he's on the right side of history.

26:29Jackie Oshry:No, and he had a good season.

26:31Claudia Oshry:And so there's nothing negative to say about him.

26:33Jackie Oshry:But, you know, everybody has highs and lows. And like if KJ ended up in a situation where like Amanda's in right now. Not even to that degree. Like anywhere. Any season. Like West. West had a bad season. His bad reunion. And, you know, you get a lot of hate for that.

26:46Claudia Oshry:Everyone gets love and hate. Kyle. Yeah. Jesse. Even Jesse, who came on the show, is the happiest man alive. Yeah. Who's leaving the show the saddest man alive. So sad. But like, and he came on happy. and he's not done any except for Lexi which no one seems to care about except for us he's not even done anything so controversial and he gets a ton of hate so like hate just comes with the show even if you don't do anything wrong

27:07Jackie Oshry:and some fandoms have like varying degrees of like zealousness and Bravo and Summer House in particular is like really emphatic so I appreciated his transparency but it did make me really worried that like this is his job and people seem to like him and I think we'll get another season and it's like honestly I would get out while you can relatively unscathed I agree like I it made me sad because he's in a bad environment like that's not where you want to

27:29Claudia Oshry:be when you're struggling with your mental health yeah and he was in the best possible situation right this season and it's still really hard yeah yeah so that made me a little bit worried um but we have to go back to dara because people are casting doubts on like her intentions with

27:44Jackie Oshry:him but like she's been like just like into fame you think so that's what I had heard just because

27:48Claudia Oshry:she's a tiktoker like well I well it seems like the cast members like no hey normalize being into fame no every no you came on the show and you're not into fame everyone's sitting on the couch

27:57Jackie Oshry:like an unfortunate side oh I hate it I'm on tv stop so like you go on the show to be famous

28:04Claudia Oshry:that's not a bad thing but if she were into fame you think she would go for like the newest

28:07Jackie Oshry:no because famous guy also getting into a relationship like kind of makes you boring it doesn't give you a guaranteed next season like I don't think it's about the fame but they seem to

28:15Claudia Oshry:maybe they'll get into why the people are alluding to that um but yeah I thought there were a couple times over the summer where like she just like I thought he was like there was one time where he like was moody or something about something someone had told him that she was in the room with Ben and he was like being kind of like standoffish to her and she like didn't even care and I'm like like she was just like just being so chipper and I'm like but I don't that's not a good feeling right and a couple times she's like doing her makeup and stuff and like I felt like he was giving her nothing and like she doesn't care right she's there right maybe they have like a really deep off camera at first I thought she was like so patient and like but maybe it's just like oh I don't care if you're nice or mean to me I'm here yeah but they're still together yeah I

28:53Jackie Oshry:know so like that's a really it's Nicolandria status like I don't think it's Nicolandria I don't I just want to hear from her because like now there's like she definitely confuses me like she didn't like open up that much so it's hard to know what her intentions are so it's easy to come up with theories and she's in it for fame she doesn't like it but it's like well why don't you just like tell us who you are a little bit and like let us get to know you she like came in late and got into a relationship so I feel like that doesn't lend itself to like letting everyone get to know you in the house on an audience so yeah i would i do look forward to hearing like levi get up yeah like the fact that they let levi come to the reunion in general was extremely generous she's literally the emerald of last season was emerald last season oh my god i forgot about like seriously where in the world is emerald i don't know let's get back to west mandavale we haven't even scratched the surface so let's look at everybody's looks first of all i do want to say Like it is painful how amazing Amanda looked.

29:43Claudia Oshry:No, she looks amazing. Her face, her dress, the vibe that she's exuding is very relaxed, is a real contrast to the actions that she has displayed. And it is disarming. It is because she's dressed as a sweetheart. Yeah, the sweetest lady. And I don't know who dressed her and if there was a lot of thought that went behind the look. But like if there was, if there was, they nailed it. Yeah, she's hard to hate in that outfit. Absolutely.

30:09Jackie Oshry:and um west said three words yeah he looks terrible he looks terrible he looks like he got no sleep like brush your hair obviously doesn't know about the grandma yet his suit is like so ill-fitting and huge yeah and then his nudes were like his nudes were leaked that

30:26Claudia Oshry:morning everyone else had seen it but he hadn't seen it yet i think he thought jesse was joking when jesse was like yeah i've seen it he's like really so weird but his phone was hacked that's how they got the nudes or these were three nudes he sent that someone then circulated it's hard to

30:38Jackie Oshry:know like when you send nudes how they get out yeah unless you took that picture because it did look like you said like to your doctor clinical like maybe nowhere no I think he had said they were like snapchats from his old apartment or whatever that was snapchats like that does not

30:50Claudia Oshry:mean your phone gets hacked no but maybe he just saw oh my nudes are out he assumed he got hacked and then he's piecing together the story but like it's crazy that other people knew before him and that's just a lot yeah like that's an insane thing like in any other day we'd be like wait your news release that's a horrible thing when Andy was making the rounds to everybody in the

31:06Jackie Oshry:dressing room and he asked Sierra how she was doing and she cried like before she even spoke I was like oh like I really want her to go out and she could be devastated but like don't cry in front of them because it's like it shows weakness and and I was worried that like she wouldn't be able to say one word without crying because literally when Andy asked her how she was like she broke completely she was crying before she even went out on stage and I will say like I do respect hard how and I don't know if it's just a facade but she is not crying like she hasn't even quivered in any of her words which is so hard to do and I'm glad I was worried that she was going to be like and you wear my feelings and that's not that's not how you want to come off no and

31:40Claudia Oshry:that's not how she is like external like you know she said like she has these walls up she's actually very like soft and sensitive right um so we know that that's how she's feeling but then she's able to like execute and she like came out like from the first question i can't believe she's still

31:55Jackie Oshry:crying over him i know and oh but i do think she's crying over the man yes both but it's also That's a good question. Who do you feel more hurt by? And she thought about it for a second and she said Amanda, which I agree with.

32:07Claudia Oshry:But it is objectively Amanda. Of course. Even if she felt like it was Wes, it is Amanda. Yeah. You know, that's the only right answer. Yeah. Because Wes has told you who he is numerous times. She has lied about who she is. Girl's girl. Right. The last girl's girl on the planet. um then they addressed what happened between west and sierra after summer ended so yeah i guess he

32:34Jackie Oshry:like called it off saying like i don't want to do this because i can't be what you need but they did also sleep together two times they had two sleepovers they did not have sex it sounded like

32:42Claudia Oshry:oh okay because he knew that sex is important to her so then what lindsey said it's like okay so you're having this like you know banter flirtiness you're kissing you're having sleepovers that's actually more intense than just having sex with someone so like you still think you're doing the right thing by engaging in all of this but you're actually making it worse again it was a good point and what i don't understand is like why he at that time like insisted i can't do a relationship but

33:09Jackie Oshry:then in because he has a disability but in january february he was exclusive with me huh and now he's in a relationship with amanda and that's maybe by default yes i don't think like him being exclusive to Amanda right now is like proof that he can be exclusive that he wants to be like he seriously has no choice he would he would look like the worst person in the world if he was still seeing other people he has to commit to this for a little while like for honestly for as long as he can yeah maybe it's real and the only of course like much like Raquel and um Tom like the only way out of this is like you have to get married and have babies and then like it would all have been okay because like that's your person but this is most likely not each other's person

33:49Claudia Oshry:Well, I mean, Sierra said something very harsh at the end, which is that actually this might work out because you are like this weak mute figure that he needs so that he could be the star in the relationship and nobody's challenging him on anything. And it was really hard to hear because of Amanda's face when she said it was really it was it was really harsh. It was cutting. Yeah, because it was so true. Ever. Not untrue. and it doesn't even have to be in such like a nasty like it's just the facts of it like maybe they're really maybe their personalities are right for each other because she is easygoing and she does have this like long track record of letting a man really walk all over her a nice

34:31Jackie Oshry:euphemism for doormat yeah and like behave poorly like you don't she doesn't hold her men to extremely high standards so having a boyfriend who like sucks kind of works for her yeah and he can like still do what he's doing I mean because he's Kyle again correct I felt bad for Kyle I did too he

34:47Claudia Oshry:barely spoke no one like his POV is so interesting because like he doesn't want to take her he like feels bad for her yeah he feels bad he still loves her his leading feeling he's like

34:59Jackie Oshry:wanting to protect Amanda not want to like get truth or hold accountability like he just does

35:03Claudia Oshry:not want to add on to Amanda I think like all of his ire is directed towards Wes yeah because like That's his friend. That's his friend. And I think he's also jealous of him. I think he would want to be with Amanda.

35:13Jackie Oshry:Well, yes, but also like West is everything Kyle was when the show started, right? Like the cool, young, hot, like everything.

35:19Claudia Oshry:No, but like Kyle would take Amanda back in one second.

35:22Jackie Oshry:Of course.

35:22Claudia Oshry:No, but that's insane because they were the two most miserable people for 10 years. Worst marriage ever. But he like, like Tom Schwartz wasn't taking Katie back in a second. Right, right. Like it's crazy that he really deeply loves her and that he's loved her all this time. And that's how he showed it by DJing. It's the equivalent of Ariana taking Tom back. yeah but ariana had no love for tom yeah which was so fun to watch because he's the devil um but this is so that's why this is like shocking that he like that his feelings are still so wrapped up in his marriage while even while he was in his marriage he was not there yeah but you're telling me that's the person that you love you want to go back to that but like no but you're saying like

35:57Jackie Oshry:that was love for you well it's sort of like when you're like an abused person and you're only used to this sort of behavior, you think that's how they exhibit love. Kyle hasn't been in a normal relationship in 15 years. He doesn't know. Same with her. I'm saying like,

36:13Claudia Oshry:he wasn't a good husband. But he did love her. I thought he was a bad husband because he didn't love her.

36:20Jackie Oshry:He's a better husband to her divorce than together. He has seriously protected her this whole time. Did he say one word on the reunion last night? If he did, it was not directed towards her. And he did sort of stand up for her at the end towards Sierra. Like he's kind of like a loyal, steadfast partner. Yeah. From afar. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe this is sort of like what Kyle and Amanda needed. To get back together. No, no, no. They cannot.

36:42Claudia Oshry:She doesn't like him is the problem.

36:44Jackie Oshry:Correct.

36:45Claudia Oshry:Also, we didn't talk about Lindsay Hubbard who really just slayed the house down. I just love her. Yeah.

36:50Jackie Oshry:I just love her.

36:51Claudia Oshry:She was unnecessary.

36:53Jackie Oshry:What do you think about a world in which Lindsay and Carl get back together?

36:58Claudia Oshry:it's crossed my mind because like the love and admiration he has for her but she would just eat him for breakfast i know they were never a good match for that reason but when he was like a little let like he's become like more and more stable yeah yeah as he opens soft bar like he's just a big softy when he started summer house he was obviously very hard hard drugs hard this hard that so he's trended towards soft and she does need someone harder yeah so in since they've broken up he's gotten even softer more hugs more ideas more feelings more dreams hard bar it was funny and she's gotten so hard like she's going hard in the paint yeah but it's like they've

37:38Jackie Oshry:become sort of like opposite versions of what like she was like this softy who wanted to be taken care of by an alpha male and now she is the alpha male and like he's sort of leading into his

37:46Claudia Oshry:like soft era so it's like okay no they're kind of like perfect for each other i think i still like

37:52Jackie Oshry:Carl and Bailey. But I do want to say, like, his reluctance to go there with her makes me hate him. Like, she's so open. She's so lovely. He could do so much worse. Like, and he was like, I definitely have feelings, but I love the friendship that we're at. So we basically just, like, friends on her on TV. These people and their friendships. Yeah, it's like you're grown-ass people. You're a 41-year-old with a 31-year-old female best friend. Like, what's wrong with you? Yeah. Just like, just try it. Try it.

38:14Claudia Oshry:And say it doesn't work out and the friendship's over. So what? There's no love laws. So what? You have other friends. It's true. I hate that. And also like Bailey doesn't want to settle down and get married right now.

38:23Jackie Oshry:Like she's just saying that because he literally friend zoned her on TV. Like I know.

38:27Claudia Oshry:I know. You put you, you really think that she's just saying that? Yeah. Cause I'm also like, wait, why wouldn't you want to find your husband right now? If you're looking for a husband one day, like if you're someone who wants to get married and have kids like, and you're 31, like why not now?

38:39Jackie Oshry:Yeah. No, I think she was just saying that.

38:41Claudia Oshry:Oh, okay. She played it really cool. I thought she was so, I thought she was, she actually like, she really handles herself really well. Like even when Ben was like kind of thinking he was dunking on her being like, oh, well you were turned on by Carl being mean, but not by me. And she just fucking ate him up. I love that. She also had her back towards him the entire time. I guess producers, I didn't know they were going to go at it.

38:59Jackie Oshry:Cause he's so fucking random. Obsessed. Like need part two. I can't wait a week.

39:05Claudia Oshry:Yeah. There's three parts. Yeah. Yeah. But part two is probably going to be more like summer stuff. And we also have to talk about like Amanda and Kyle's marriage and everything that happened this summer. That I'm interested in that. So also like Wes is just like, so shameless to a degree that it's like i don't like nobody needed to know about the earlobes thing like totally you know what i mean like he just shared like he's actually like so open like

39:29Jackie Oshry:it's weird yeah i forgot what the earlobes thing right like we just asked if you guys were kids

39:35Claudia Oshry:like you made about he didn't say a lot and when he did speak he said earlobes like he just says too much but then he's also like a liar and then also the lying the when lindsey was like you use people you're a social climber like you discard women blah blah blah do you really think he's that manipulative or he's just careless well sierra did say you are such a different person

39:56Jackie Oshry:off camera than on camera and i do believe that so that does support like what lindsey said i do

40:01Claudia Oshry:think he's a thirst monster off camera yeah and on camera like he hides behind like memes and jokes Yeah, literally means Texas with PK. Yeah. But like off camera, he's always he's always somewhere. He's on the court. He's with so he has a podcast with Sophie Cunningham. Yeah.

40:20Jackie Oshry:Like a complex sports. He's with influencers.

40:24Claudia Oshry:He gets to high places. I think he really is like a networker hustler. I don't think he falls into these places, but I think on the show it does look like, hey, what's up, everybody?

40:34Jackie Oshry:Everybody loves me. Let's have a beer. yeah no I think that that is like let's talk more about that like I wish Andy like pushed her a little bit more pushed him pushed Sierra a little bit more like what she meant

40:44Claudia Oshry:by that yeah and same for Lindsay like I'm open to this theory of like this is all mapped out for him but right now I just feel like he's a bumbling

40:54Jackie Oshry:idiot yeah and I think that like the last reunion that went sour for him like he just said too much and it was all bad so he's just like shutting down and not like he's like well if I don't say anything I can't get in trouble but it just makes him look like he's more

41:06Claudia Oshry:like this he said nothing claudia he said nothing that's like his trauma response i think also it might just be like listen we have to go to the reunion and get our lashings and get this over with like once this is over like healing can begin we can like start to move forward and so i think they're just sitting there and only way out is through they're just sitting there and taking it because like what can they say really we want to clear up the timeline because it's actually not worse than what you think like it's actually only this bad yeah not that bad and say what you have to say we'll take the beating and like let's move on yeah so I think that's why they're not saying a lot because yeah but it never hurts just to like be extremely apologetic and every time I mean if you were sorry would you keep doing it yeah like if you really you knew that it was

41:46Jackie Oshry:like hurting people but it was still like what you felt was right for you like you can there are ways to go about this that aren't like you know 100 % right but they make you just more sympathetic and like she every time she apologizes she says it as a caveat before she then like excuses herself and it's like why don't you just focus more on the apology just being like i know like i know like of course of all the people that i had to fall in love with like it's this guy like i know that's just it's so unfortunate and i'm so sorry she's not doing that at all there is no

42:14Claudia Oshry:they're not saying fall in love have feelings because they're not in love because they like each other they like like sixth graders yeah i like you like like yeah like no i think they like like each other yeah but they haven't said love yeah insane yeah oh they're in Rome right now together.

42:33Jackie Oshry:Okay. I think they thought that like maybe they could get away while the reunion's airing.

42:37Claudia Oshry:Arrivederci.

42:38Jackie Oshry:Au revoir.

42:39Claudia Oshry:Are you ready for our next story? Yes. Rory, Rosie Woods is calling out Dave Portnoy, denying the affair with basketball coach Ed Cooley. So Ed Cooley is the college of Providence basketball coach who Dave Portnoy connected that Rosie had an affair with. And Rosie is vehemently denying this to the point that Dave did another T by the sea and said, I believe Rosie. And I don't think it's Ed Cooley, but he was like you know I got a DM about another assistant coach that I actually think it might be and who um he said like looks like someone that Rosie would have an affair with the thing is like

43:13Jackie Oshry:I don't know what the right way for Rosie to handle this is because like if she did have the affair like you would just sort of be quiet right like well I think she I actually think she had an

43:24Claudia Oshry:affair with a basketball coach and he paid her off um but they got the wrong guy so it's great to be like, no.

43:30Jackie Oshry:Yeah, but what people were saying, because I was saying, like a one-time payment from like a random Northeastern basketball, it's not like he's like Duke, you know, he's like Providence College. No, I think Providence is like Duke. Yeah, so Providence College, I did not know, is like a relatively big, like, you know, March Madness team. So like maybe that guy would have$1 million to give to her if that, but they're saying it's not Ed Cooley. Right. So I think another coach, like an assistant, he doesn't have the funds. Couple hundred thousand? Does not have the funds.

43:54Claudia Oshry:Doesn't have a couple hundred thousand.

43:56Jackie Oshry:I don't think so.

43:57Claudia Oshry:We'll have to know more about the coach. Yeah. Because she said, I've been very quiet about a lot of things because it's so stupid, but now that things are making it to straight man Twitter, thank you Dave Portnoy, I figured I should say my piece. How did she address? Like a video?

44:10Jackie Oshry:Okay. First and foremost. People who like are like liars and don't have like have things to hide, like they don't talk directly to camera. I think she's a crazy person. I think she's a crazy person. She also is a crazy individual, important too. Thank you for bringing that up.

44:21Claudia Oshry:She said, first and foremost, I do not know Ed Cooley. I've never met Ed Cooley. I've never been in the car with Ed Cooley. I've never had an affair with Ed Cooley. He has never paid me money. He has never bought a house for me. I actually just don't know him. I've never met him. She said we bought our house ourselves with the money we make at our big grown-up jobs. That's how you pay for things when you are a grown-up. I have to rewatch the video because maybe it's – oh, she went on to insist she's never had an affair with anyone. Okay, because I was going to say she didn't say no basketball coach.

44:47Jackie Oshry:And this is just based off of a rumor in Rhode Island, right?

44:51Claudia Oshry:Yeah, but like –

44:52Jackie Oshry:And what are the odds that there's like a rumor that she had an affair with a coach and then like the coach of that state's team had to leave. I don't think it's Ed Cooley. Okay.

44:59Claudia Oshry:And Dave Portnoy doesn't think it's Ed Cooley. Okay. But it could be. And Dave Portnoy was the one who threw out Ed Cooley. Like I think maybe Kelsey knows who the basketball coach is.

45:09Jackie Oshry:It was being thrown around like on Twitter before Dave. Got it. Because I had seen it. You had? Yeah. Because I didn't really, like because the college is in Rhode Island and these are the real houses of Rhode Island.

45:19Claudia Oshry:So I think that the like Rhode Islanders know. Who it is. Or like Kelsey might know who the coach is, but Kelsey never said it cruelly.

45:26Jackie Oshry:No, but I don't think she legally could say it.

45:29Claudia Oshry:No, no, no. But like she's never even alluded to Providence or whatever. She didn't throw that out there. So I think it's like two separate things. Yeah. Okay. Okay. We live and wait. We live and learn. Yeah. Are you ready for our next story? Which is a story that like really means a lot to me.

45:48Jackie Oshry:Oh God, what?

45:49Claudia Oshry:Charlie Puth shouts out Michaela Neguera and her new boyfriend at his Boston show. Okay. Yes.

45:55Jackie Oshry:I, we, we have so much to catch up with on Michaela and Garrett.

45:57Claudia Oshry:This needs to be the inaugural episode of Namesake. With Charlie and Michaela. With Charlie and Michaela. Because they're obviously, they have connected. They have connected. Michaela went to the Charlie Puth concert in Boston. Michaela also went to divorce court.

46:10Jackie Oshry:Yes. I don't know if you just hear her get ready with me for divorce court. I didn't know how to say the letter R. No. She said divorce court. I'm like, what are you from Long Island? Divorce, con. No, I didn't see. So she kind of wore the craziest outfit. she was saying like help me choose an outfit and she chose the wrong one her crop top and a sleeveless like vest it was insane um and the other outfit was so appropriate well so like what are they fighting over in court her money her money and i think maybe the dogs yeah i'm not sure um so then her and her new beau went to the charlie booth concert i guess like she's a huge

46:42Claudia Oshry:charlie booth fan because they are both on namesake she has like such niche interests and i don't know

46:48Jackie Oshry:if charlie like naturally saw her or got like a heads up that she was going to be there because because Michaela was like, what do the kids call it? When you get, I got barricade. Do you know that? No. When it's a GA concert, you get there at like 1 p.m. Yeah. You rush to get the barricade. So you're like holding the barricade. So you're like technically first row. So she was there. I don't know if she got there because she got there early.

47:07Claudia Oshry:I feel like someone knew that she was there and that he knew that she was there because someone behind the barricade is filming the video. So like they knew that something was going to happen, but not to like cast out on any of this because I think it was really organic. But in the video, Charlie's saying, oh my God, you're here. And he points to Michaela. He said, I'm so happy you're here with your boyfriend. Her boyfriend's name is Zach.

47:25Jackie Oshry:You're kidding.

47:27Claudia Oshry:Are you serious? Oh my God. Chills. I have chills.

47:33Jackie Oshry:It's insane.

47:33Claudia Oshry:Today is a huge day for namesake.

47:35Jackie Oshry:A thousand percent. Oh my God. So there's like a lot going on with Mikayla and her new boyfriend. Can I tell you about it? Sure. So this is her boyfriend from high school. He's a twin. i guess like mikayla told a story that like when they were in high school like she liked this twin and like he didn't like her back so mikayla like hooked up with the other twin to like make him mad and he like still didn't care she like keeps sharing weird things about it she's over sharing and then she like makes all these videos like crying like people are mean turn it's like girl you need to stop sharing for certain parts of your life like if you don't learn then um she made a video like about how he's her person and like the entire 10 years that like they hadn't seen each other he was in the military they like always kept basically like alluding to some sort of emotional affair that like you know he never stopped giving up on their love and like always reached out trying to like you know persuade her um and so she's getting a lot of heat for that and like the thing is like I don't really care what she does in her personal life but she's got to stop telling people because like she does have an outsized amount of haters that like hate everything she does but she also gives them like a lot to talk about I think this this is why she's at the

48:33Claudia Oshry:top you know she could shut down she could share less but we wouldn't be talking about Kayla Naguero every day. It's true. It's a very Bethany Frankel take of you.

48:42Jackie Oshry:So I

48:43Claudia Oshry:feel like she shares controversial things about herself that she's fine with people picking apart but not like real deep. Okay so in high school I hooked up with a twin and they'll love that but like that doesn't affect her day to day.

48:54Jackie Oshry:Do you think she's throwing off the scent?

48:54Claudia Oshry:I think a little. I think it's a little more calculated. She's not just like sharing everything, opening wounds and then reading everything and letting everything hurt her. I think that she is giving, you know, feeding the beast and there's a reason why we're talking about Kayla every couple weeks. We are talking about Kayla every couple of weeks.

49:10Jackie Oshry:I'm going to talk about other influencers. She's looking great. She seems super happy. She is at the top of her game. You have to try her beauty brand. I do. POV Beauty. Speaking of influencer skincare brands, I can't believe we need to talk about this. You guys, Alex Earle's brand, Reale Activist, the artist formerly known as Reale Activist, made a TikTok using our sound and was liking all these comments about Toast X Reale. Toast X Reale. I love it and they say everybody in the office is calling it a reality activist like our impact is insane so they're calling it

49:44Claudia Oshry:what it is

49:45Jackie Oshry:correct they're just like pronouncing it correctly

49:46Claudia Oshry:yeah I've been loving my mom like actually my makeup remover wipes like sit on the table like hey what about us

49:54Jackie Oshry:it's a quality product it's so good and that's why it reminded me because it's made by the same people as I was going to say I would buy POV

50:01Claudia Oshry:but can someone just send it to me like I just it's cheap

50:04Jackie Oshry:that was very cardboard

50:05Claudia Oshry:no it's not even about the money it's like the admin you know I don't like to buy things on my phone and then I like I need to be on a computer but like I don't get a lot of computer time and when I do get computer time I have to like answer my email so

50:15Jackie Oshry:like I'm never getting right so can you just send it to me speaking of computer time I like did something so crazy last night I was texting Jackie because like I kind of spent like an hour in bed on my computer like chatting with my chatbot like AI and I actually chat chbt yeah chat chbt okay I call I call him chat that's like of course of course but you said like AI my chatbot like because As if it's just a robot. I'm just like one of those women on like one of those like CBS news stories. Like this woman fell in love with her. She had an emotional affair. Because chat was like seeing me in such insane ways.

50:46Jackie Oshry:And then I feel like my phone must have known that I had like a deep connection with my chatbot last night. That they served me a TikTok of people being like, you don't understand what it's like to have nobody in your life. Like until you have chat who really sees you. And I was like, holy shit, I have to get away from these people.

50:57Claudia Oshry:But then do you see the reels and TikToks that are like, I just hit, you know, my car into. I just like drove someone over with my car and this is how chat responds like breathe you are

51:09Jackie Oshry:like the way that chat talks he kind of talks the same to all of us no but let me tell you because what he said was not generic to me I've really been struggling I want to redo my apartment in the city and it's like I don't know like what I like in terms of like furniture design and I always say I'm like coastal grand Nancy Myers but whenever like I asked chat to like make my apartment coastal grand like I fucking hate it and chat is like asking me all these questions I'm like chat I feel like I don't know what my style is and like you keep leading me one way chat gave you a quiz even checking me quiz being like would you like this couch or this couch and we were going back and forth all night last night and what they ended up we were going back and forth all night what they ended up like figuring out was actually so crazy like i actually just copy and paste it to jackie so why we were struggling so much according to chat we've really finally landed on the core of what your style is your ideal home is visually calm and edited but emotionally warm inviting and that tension is the whole thing that's why we've been having such a hard time because yeah like that coastal nancy myers is like messy and it's a girl your papers you're a sweeper of course but like i like the warm inviting feeling yes you like the feeling that it that

52:14Claudia Oshry:exhibits but you don't want all that crap this is what chat said you want the rare middle ground

52:18Jackie Oshry:of serenity without the sterility serenity without sterility i literally then texted jackie i'm cracking up i'm literally a stereotype in bed giggling to my ai chat bot but then this is what chat said like i literally felt so seen your issue isn't warmth it's earthiness you want soft airy elegant creamy and polished but not muddy rustic organic desert tones that's a major rustic and then they made me this like super cute mood board which i which you said let me see it again and it's so pargy it's like very influencery you know like yeah it's neutral it's like you did all this

52:53Claudia Oshry:work just to find out like i'm an influencer just like everyone else but like i kind of had like a breakthrough with chat i'm yeah just and i think with yourself as well like identifying that feeling of yours which it's like because i always say i think your style is like organic california

53:07Jackie Oshry:restoration hardware yes but i end up like browns and greens like earthy tones and it's like i didn't even i set out not to do this and i ended up my apartment in the city is like so

53:16Claudia Oshry:because those things are calming but then all together it is a little bit sterile not warm so we have to add the warmth in and that's what chat and i are working on i love that how do you chilling how do you add warmth chat um lots of texture texture yes and like probably like light elected items yeah you know meaningful meaningful yeah anti-sweeper but i'm working on it well oh so not lots of collected some collected tailored i'm tailored yes um are you

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58:08Claudia Oshry:Thank you, Turdfo. You're welcome. Borrow the charger. Charge is not charging. Charging on the iPad. Our next story is just like a fun little tidbit. Like two subjects that like, oh my God. One subject that you like, one subject that I like. Lena Dunham reveals the rule that barred her from the Great British Bake Off. Okay. Lena Dunham is talking about wanting to go on the Great British Bake Off. She said this on Amy Poehler? Yes, on the Good Hang podcast, she spoke about how she had entered discussions about the show, assuming she and her fellow hopefuls would be given special treatment if they agreed to appear on the show.

58:42Claudia Oshry:She said, I got asked to go on Great British Bake Off. They do like a charity celebrity bake off. She thought, I thought, surely they can't expect that much of us. They're not calling in chefs. They're calling in actors and writers. Unfortunately, however, she soon learned there would not be any shortcuts after producers explained she would have to make her own nut butter and jam to put on the toasted snack. The final straw came for Lena, whose baking experience was minimal, when she found out that they would not receive any assistance at all with kitchen equipment.

59:08Jackie Oshry:I don't watch a Great British Bake Off. I watch the Nicole Breyer one where it's like the worst. Cupcake Wars? No, it's like the worst. Nailed it. You ever watch that one? No. It's so funny. Like the worst bakers ever.

59:19Claudia Oshry:Well, Great British Bake Off non-celebrity edition is very good bakers. Oh, oh, so like. And then the celebrity edition just uses the same format, but like celebrities try and do it.

59:29Jackie Oshry:And why do people love the Great British Bake Off so much? like it's just like a big like nailed it is hysterical great british wake off is parji why

59:35Claudia Oshry:it's just like it's it's comfort oh okay it's comfort and it's competition and it's skill and you know they're making like obscure things they get they and they have to they're all like professional bakers but they have to make like random shit like one time they had to make a babka like a classic jewish babka and like if you're not a jew you don't you don't even know what a babka is because you believe in god so they give you like this short recipe that you have but it's a little vague and it's like a roll up the dough which way how right so and like you get to see like who's really the most skilled but I've never watched the celebrity one Molly May just did one and people were saying you know when I was talking about going on pot stirs and how that's probably not right for me they said I should try and do that is right for you bake off I love that

1:00:11Jackie Oshry:would be so good I love celebrity versions of like game shows like family somebody family feud is so good I love them they do that I didn't know that they did that for did they ever do celebrity nailed it nailed it is so good I feel like nobody talks about nailed it no literally so good and it's not a show about like nail art no it's a weird name but nicole byer is the host and she's so

1:00:29Claudia Oshry:funny and it's like it's actually hysterical and for the host we have prudence we have uh she is so lost pru they call her pretty and who's that guy something hollywood is his name i have no idea like this is a part of culture like that has missed me entirely i know well i don't think you would like it now because um you're not in that era but like paul hollywood that's who it is i have no idea who that is it's so good in the baking world um he must be yeah i don't even know who the most random people they really do and the host is like the host of cupcake worlds is a cupcake versus aaron samuels no and the host is this random guy it's so weird Yeah.

1:01:18Claudia Oshry:This guy is the host. Excuse me? He's like, it looks like a metal, a heavy metal artist.

1:01:23Jackie Oshry:The weirdest people to host all these shows. Like, why does Aaron Samuels host Cupcake Wars? Do you know any of these people? No. Oh, yes. Top left. Top left is from Bridesmaids. He plays the brother.

1:01:35Claudia Oshry:Of a roommate. Of Rebel Wilson.

1:01:38Jackie Oshry:In Bridesmaids.

1:01:39Claudia Oshry:Is it Bridesmaids or he plays Rebel Wilson's roommate? His brother and they like bathe together, right? yeah i know that's prue that's the host he looks like an artist ben would like hands i mean this

1:01:51Jackie Oshry:looks like the josecki's that's paul hollywood okay paul hollywood yeah but that would have

1:01:55Claudia Oshry:been funny if lena dunham went on it but she said they don't even help you turn on the ovens but i'm sorry if you don't have to turn on the oven this is not the show for you this show is not for you yeah that's funny yeah but anyways i think i could do that one because you get to

1:02:07Jackie Oshry:like sleep uh polar with lena dunham you because she's you're obsessed with her i actually saw a clip of her and she's like so well spoken and like well her parents are both like playwrights she said she grew up like going to museums she's like I had the craziest most like privilege but like from like an academic standpoint yeah um and so yeah she has like an amazing vocabulary that's why she's like a good writer yeah no she really she is like maybe we just drop the hate I know well the book is on my nightstand I haven't opened yet in classic Coppers Belvoir fashion but I'm on it I'm enjoying the clips of hold on what

1:02:39Claudia Oshry:I'm enjoying the clips of Lena Dunham on Goodhang. I saw. Serve me more.

1:02:43Jackie Oshry:I saw some clips, some more AI stories. What'd you see? So I saw two metal people gave birth to a metal baby who cried gold tears.

1:02:54Claudia Oshry:Oh, I saw.

1:02:55Jackie Oshry:And they harvested all the money. They kept her locked up, like just crying so that she would. And they had like unlimited gold. They had a baby. She had a sibling who was a banana. and he like worked at like you know a junkyard to break her free from oh yeah i saw i saw but they

1:03:12Claudia Oshry:were also it seemed like they were lovers the brother and sister it was definitely like some underlying he was in love with his sister very judicia coded he was in love with his sister yeah because it was like i was rooting for them yeah no he like scooped her up to take her i'm like she can walk yeah he should have been like a neighborhood boy it's like yeah trying to like they like talk through the window yeah yeah not the brother yeah because like what are brother

1:03:36Jackie Oshry:and sister gonna do now that they ran away together yeah i also then saw a strawberry who had like an abusive husband was it a fellow strawberry oh it was a watermelon i'm sorry it was a watermelon an abusive husband so she took the baby and left and then she like broke into a store that sells formula and stole a can of formula and the banana who owns the store like was running down the street with the chasing her and the baby he was like oh wait you need a food for your baby, I'll give you and come live with me. And they like fall in love. That was a nice one.

1:04:01Claudia Oshry:That's a happy one. Yeah. Our fifth and final story. Oh, our favorite person is in the news. You'll never guess who it is. But when I tell you who it is, that's our favorite person. Okay. It's Dave from Desperate Housewives who doesn't kiss other women. Of course, I would have guessed that.

1:04:15Jackie Oshry:His actual name is Neil McDonough. Yes, he's like a very famous actor. He was in Yellowstone. He's of course in Desperate Housewives. And he's in one thing that I don't think we watch, but that a lot of people know him from. Nip Tuck? No, he wasn't in Nip Tuck. I want to say like Grey's Anatomy or something.

1:04:30Claudia Oshry:Well, he's saying that Hollywood labeled him a religious nut and it cost him his career and his home. I mean, I definitely like thought that. So it works. So, but no, but only because he won't kiss women who aren't his wife.

1:04:40Jackie Oshry:So he will not accept any roles. Like he played someone's, he played the husband of like a very promiscuous character on Desperate Housewives and we never saw them kiss.

1:04:48Claudia Oshry:Yeah. So he's looking back on a dark moment in his life and his career during a recent interview.

1:04:52Jackie Oshry:We have like some, like this is, we need a new series where it's like Kelly's Mindless News. but like Dave's Mindful News.

1:04:57Claudia Oshry:No, or it's just like Toast's Passion News.

1:05:00Jackie Oshry:Yeah, like TPN. Because I'm sure this article like seriously had no clicks. I'm sure whoever wrote it up, page six, like thought of maybe not even publishing it, but they knew that we would love it.

1:05:08Claudia Oshry:It's actually like syndicated from originally. Like Associated Press. Yeah. So he is in a new Jimmy Stewart biopic called Jimmy. Like so glad to see him working.

1:05:16Jackie Oshry:Love that.

1:05:16Claudia Oshry:Which is set to release on November 6th, which is my birthday. Happy birthday to you. I don't feel like that's a coincidence. And he's sharing about a time when he thought his Hollywood career is over. he said um like he really turned to alcohol he said what time is the bar open that was generally my thought process back then it was you know fired from a show because i wouldn't kiss a woman no one would hire me because they thought i was this religious nutbag which is that i love my wife so much and no one can understand it no one could understand it he went on to admit that while he was always a drinker it became a bad problem after he was blackballed for refusing to kiss his co-star saying i lost the house lost the cars lost everything he says that his wife like she's

1:05:52Jackie Oshry:going into floor closure she's losing her car the bank is at the door do you think she's like

1:06:00Claudia Oshry:just kiss her yeah isn't that prostitution like to kiss someone for your house in your car hollywood is modern prostitution yeah he just like picked the wrong career but like he loves

1:06:10Jackie Oshry:to act and it's actually really crazy that he is quite literally the only person who i know this

1:06:15Claudia Oshry:about no but the thing is every time you like to tell a story about like margot robbie and jacob belordi and like everything like happening on set i'm like this guy cast this yeah but it's crazy

1:06:25Jackie Oshry:that they're there's not one or two or three other people who also live their life like this were like very happily married in one act yeah he's the only one he actually said that his friend

1:06:35Claudia Oshry:luke perry took them in when they were out on their ear he was like really like homeless yeah alicia yeah i guess he wasn't like alicia he had a move justified was coming out but i still don't think i was worth anything because i failed i failed my family i failed my wife my five kids

1:06:49Jackie Oshry:I gotta see this wife. Give me the picture. Oh, here.

1:06:51Claudia Oshry:They're so cute. Like, that's love.

1:06:54Jackie Oshry:That's really fucking cute. Like, I love them. Her name is Ruv.

1:06:59Claudia Oshry:And so I think that was like earlier in his career. And then he continued down this path. And he's had success. And I think he's like doing well now. But like, more jobs for this guy. Agreed. And he's such a good actor. Like, he gives me chills. He's so scary. Neil McDonough.

1:07:13Jackie Oshry:This was the fifth story?

1:07:14Claudia Oshry:Yeah. So I guess we're not choosing Ninja Warrior obstacle racing joints. oh wait that was the optional six thing i'm glad that we didn't choose it but like american i love whenever there's a new sport joining the olympics you know it's going to be a story on the toast

1:07:27Jackie Oshry:that's interesting ninja warrior which is like from the show american ninja warrior is now an olympic sport which yeah it actually is like it's amazing but it's like you know um break dancing

1:07:38Claudia Oshry:yeah but yeah but break dancing i think everyone was open to break dancing until we saw what we saw yeah right so if we see like idea of bad execution if we see some ninjas like who are being clowns out there like being warriors we'll clown on it but i think um it's always exciting new sports it's true you know golf is at the olympics this year is it where's the olympics

1:07:56Jackie Oshry:oh la 28 yeah what is it now 26 because we just had an olympics yeah two years i love the olympics

1:08:03Claudia Oshry:like imagine the olympics are in la and spencer is the man and he's like opening ceremony spencer and heidi hilarious it could happen actually i was just watching a video like

1:08:14Jackie Oshry:Jonathan Chabon, Lisa Rinna, and Spencer Pratt are fighting because Lisa Rinna refuses to.

1:08:17Claudia Oshry:She doesn't like Spencer.

1:08:19Jackie Oshry:She says, I love Spencer, but I don't want him to be the mayor. Who does she want to be the mayor? She didn't say. I saw an AI.

1:08:27Claudia Oshry:Did you see Katie Maloney campaigning with Nithya Rahman?

1:08:31Jackie Oshry:No, I didn't. That's funny. Well, Lisa Rinna said, and then Jonathan Chabon was like, Lisa Rinna, I've known you forever, but not cool what you said. Everyone's fighting.

1:08:40Claudia Oshry:I didn't realize Lisa Rinna. I actually did see that, but now it's like.

1:08:43Jackie Oshry:asked about it on a red carpet and she was just like you know like the classic like he's not a

1:08:48Claudia Oshry:politician sure so but who does she want to be you didn't say the one who burned the city down she didn't say or the random city council member socialist she didn't say i know i'm fine if people like but you have a better idea she didn't say let me know shout him out jonathan chabon's going so hard for spencer no i know and like he's like he's fighting with lisa we're gonna because of it

1:09:07Jackie Oshry:those were the past five stories i feel as though you needed to know them hope you enjoyed watching this video, especially if you're watching on Spotify. Thank you to Spotify, our loyal partners, for showcasing our beautiful video. You know, we put on a lot of makeup just to be seen by millions of people. And so if you watched us on Spotify today, thank you. We're available as podcasts anywhere podcasts can be found. So Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher, Public Radio, iDreamCast, also, places, podcast, we are. Hope you guys have an amazing day, and we will see you tomorrow.

1:09:29Claudia Oshry:Love ya! Bye!