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The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon

7 Oct 2026 · 38m · 15 chapters

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Trump Suggests Iran Could Take Out LA | with John Cena, Emma D’Arcy, Sam Smith | Tuesday, October 6

In short

The Tonight Show monologue jokes about midterm election worries, Trump’s controversial remarks (Iran “taking out” Los Angeles/San Diego; calls to arrest NYT reporters), and exaggerated crowd-size claims; then pivots to Halloween/food/tech news and the show’s guests and performances.

Guests (backgrounds)

  • John Cena: WWE champion (17 titles), actor in Matchbox (streaming on Apple TV Friday) and Digger (theaters/IMAX).
  • Emma D’Arcy: actor from House of the Dragon (High Valyrian-speaking role); stars in Digger.
  • Sam Smith: multi-platinum singer with 5 Grammys and an Oscar; album Hazel Eyes out now.
  • Meredith Hayden: chef/author/Netflix host of Witchbone Kitchen; runs Wishbone Kitchen (cookbook/TV/catering).

Key claims & notable examples

  • Cena receives a custom “Tonight Show Champion” WWE-style belt; discusses Matchbox nostalgia and helicopter stunt fears.
  • D’Arcy describes making a High Valyrian self-tape wig during 2020 lockdown and doing vocab/phonetics practice.
  • Sam Smith says Hazel Eyes is about love; admits “hazel eyes” were mistakenly thought brown; performs “Oh Mother.”
  • Hayden cooks fall dishes: deconstructed apple pie sundae, spicy squash pasta, and caviar “fish and chips.”

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Chapters

0:45

Political Commentary and Humor

Jimmy Fallon discusses the current political climate, focusing on Trump's comments and humorous quips about recent events.

“Welcome, welcome, welcome to The Tonight Show!”
4:56

Celebrity Guest Introduction

Fallon introduces his guests, highlighting their accomplishments and upcoming projects.

“Well, switching gears this week, the Nobel Peace Prize will be announced.”
7:09

Cooking Segment with Meredith Hayden

Chef Meredith Hayden discusses her culinary journey and her new show while preparing dishes for the audience.

“It's a Halloween kind of spooky episode.”
8:36

Interview with John Cena

John Cena joins Jimmy to discuss his new movie, personal anecdotes, and share a heartfelt moment.

“Our first guest is a talented actor who you can see in Matchbox, the movie, which begins streaming on Apple TV this Friday.”
14:00

John Cena Discusses Matchbox and Nostalgia

John Cena shares insights about his role in the film Matchbox, exploring themes of nostalgia and childhood memories with toy cars.

“We had a great producer and a passionate director.”
17:50

Introduction of Meredith Hayden

Meredith Hayden from Wishbone Kitchen introduces a fall-inspired dessert for John Cena.

“Max Box the Movie is out Friday on Apple TV.”
18:06

Emma D'Arcy Joins the Show

Emma D'Arcy is welcomed to the show, discussing her success in House of the Dragon and its impressive viewership.

“Well, you know our next guest from House of the Dragon.”
19:32

Emma D'Arcy on the Audition Process

Emma shares her unique audition experience for House of the Dragon, including improvisation with a bag of hair for a wig.

“They go, do you have any wigs that you could read to?”
22:28

Learning High Valerian

Emma explains the challenges of learning High Valerian for her role and shares a fun vocabulary quiz with the host.

“Your character speaks the language, which I'm going to get the...”
25:59

Discussion on the Movie Digger

Emma talks about her experience in the film Digger and its complex storytelling, highlighting the visual language and depth of the narrative.

“So I had, in exam conditions, I had 30 minutes to read and learn the scene with no context.”
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28:00

Lighthearted Banter

The hosts engage in a playful conversation about squash and invitations.

“Yeah, well, yeah, I do I feel like I'm already in your debt Like, do you want to come to my house?”
28:49

The Story Behind Hazel Eyes

Sam Smith shares insights about the inspiration and story behind their album 'Hazel Eyes'.

“It's the name of the album, also the name of a song.”
30:51

Writing About Love

Sam discusses the emotional layers of writing about love and their personal experiences.

“Oh, yes, you are changing the definition.”
31:44

Live Performances and Audience Connection

Sam talks about their residency performances and the evolution of their audience.

“Or did you just go with where you're living right now?”
33:58

Food and Music Connection

A fun discussion about food, Sam's social media venture, and a special dish prepared for him.

“Like, from my first album to now, like, I'm still so happy with my audience.”
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0:05From Studio 16 in Rockefeller Center in the heart of New York City, it's the Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon. Hey, hey, hey, hey. And I joined Jimmy and his guests, John Cena, Emma D 'Arcy, Sam Smith, Witchbone Kitchen, Mary Tate, and Dietrich, the legendary Roosh Kirk. 2352. And now, here he is, Jimmy Fallon!

0:59One more. Come on! Thank you very much, everybody. I appreciate it. Welcome, everybody. Welcome, welcome, welcome to The Tonight Show! This is...

1:12Well, guys, the midterms are less than a month away, and Republicans are saying the election is a five-alarm fire, catastrophic, and the bottom is falling out. It's not good when your campaign sounds like the three stages of appearing on Hot Ones. You know what I'm saying? The numbers are looking pretty bad for Republicans. Even Fox News was like, We're giving it all we got, Captain. We can't spin it anymore! Yeah, President Trump's low approval rating is dragging Republicans down. Right now, Trump's polling somewhere between three-minute Hulu ads and getting raisins on Halloween. Meanwhile, last night during a campaign rally, Trump said that Iran could take out a city and then added, Let them take out Los Angeles.

1:55Let them take out San Diego. Trump quickly apologized. He said, Sorry, I forgot San Francisco. Get this. Trump is now saying that reporters from The New York Times and other media outlets should be arrested over their coverage of his rallies. Reporters aren't worried. They're like, If we can sit through a two-hour Trump speech, we can handle prison. Yeah, we're going. Trump's mad because reporters said his Ohio rally was small. Well, they didn't technically say it was small. They just said, That's cute. Well, this made me laugh. Trump claimed that his rally in Ohio was at the Ohio Arena, even though he spoke at a high school gymnasium.

2:34Oops. Now he's claiming his next rally is at a Texas stadium, but it's really at a Longhorn Steakhouse in the birthday party room. I saw that last night, while Trump campaigned in Nebraska, J.D. Vance held a rally in Alaska. And if Trump's crowds are small, what the hell is J.D. Vance rallying in Alaska like? Hey, Frank. How you doing, J.D.? Yeah, see this? There are reports that Jeff Bezos' wife, Lauren Sanchez Bezos, wants him to run for president so she can be the first lady. Melania was like, girl, you can be first lady tonight. Just take it. Ready. Yeah, imagine that at Bezos' presidential campaign.

3:15In a statement, Jeff Bezos said it would be an honor to serve as president, but it's too soon to make that call. Then Senator Pete Ricketts said, I think we'd make a great president. And Congressman Keith Self said, Yeah, I'm not sure what it is about him, but he has my vote. And Congressman Jake Elsie said, All aboard the Bezos train. And Senator John Fetterman said, I really like him, but a little patch of me doesn't. And Congressman James Gallagher said, I don't like him now, but it seems like I will in a few years. And Congressman Brad Sherman said, I'm split. And Congressman Mike Rogers said, he's not my kind of guy.

3:55Why? Does it seem like he is? And I'm covering it up. And Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro said, I hate the guy. And finally, this guy said, does he need a running mate? Halloween's around the corner, and I read that this year, Americans are expected to spend more on Halloween than ever before at$285 per person. It's big news for Spirit Halloween. Check out their latest ad.

4:24and don't forget the candy. Hey, JCPenney, sleep with one eye open, bitch. Spirit's coming for your giant-ass building. Did we mention our low, low prices? They can't be beat. Watch your back, Toys R Us. We're moving in with 30 ,000 knockoff Pennywise outfits, which for legal reasons we have to call Scary Sewer Clown. This October, there's no better place to get into the spooky spirit. Hey, Michaels, you're next. You think we're joking? Just ask your girlfriend, Joanne Fabrics. Spirit Halloween, now located at the Kennedy Center. Oh, wow. That's it. I didn't know they opened it. Congratulations.

5:02Well, switching gears this week, the Nobel Peace Prize will be announced. Trump won't win the Peace Prize, but today he took home a Nobel Prize in physics for this stance.

5:18Well, listen to this. I read that the NBA is testing out smart basketballs with Bluetooth sensors. Unfortunately, they're calling them Bluetooth balls.

5:32Some business news. KFC just announced a new meal bucket for less than$4. It's just the bucket, but still a good... It's a good deal. It's a decent bucket. And finally, here in New York City, a raccoon was caught on camera walking into a Catholic church during an evening service. Yeah. Even crazier, a squirrel was seen dipping his nuts in the holy water. We have a great show tonight. Give it up for the Roots, everybody. This is gonna be here. Uh-huh. I couldn't explain. Wouldn't explain. You wouldn't understand. I shouldn't explain. Oh, thank you very much. What a show we have for you tonight.

6:11He is a talented actor. Oh, God, we love this guy so much. He stars in Matchbox the movie, which begins streaming on Apple TV this Friday. John Cena is here tonight. Matchbox. Like not bus cars. Matchbox the movie. The best. John Cena is here. You can see them in the new film Digger. It's in theaters and IMAX right now. Emma Darcy is joining us.

6:38They are a multi-platinum selling artist whose latest album Hazel Eyes is out now. Sam Smith is here! Hazel Eyes. And she is a New York Times best-selling author and host of the popular Netflix show, Witchbone Kitchen, one of my favorite chefs. Meredith Hayden is here tonight. I got to film an episode of Witchbone Kitchen with her that will be out October 28th. It's a Halloween kind of spooky episode. Ooh. Meredith is going to be making meals for our guests all night long. We've never done this before. She's actually backstage right now getting started. Let's check in and see what she's up to.

7:21Meredith, welcome to The Tonight Show! How's it going? How's it going over there, bud? It's going great.

7:28Sam Smith: Thank you so much for having me. You're a very, very talented chef, and some people have even called you Gen Z's Martha Stewart. Can you tell us a little bit about how Wishbone Kitchen started? Yeah, so the name Wishbone Kitchen was inspired by my mom. She made us roast chickens every week, and we would pull apart the wishbone for good luck. I named my private chef and catering business Wishbone Kitchen, and now it's the name of my cookbook and TV show. Come on. Thanks, Mom. That'd be a very proud mom. I've seen her on the show. She's awesome. Throughout the show tonight, you'll be cooking for our guests, and all the recipes are from your Wishbone Kitchen cookbook, which is out now.

8:06I heard there's something that you usually do before a big event for good luck.

8:10Sam Smith: Yes, speaking of good luck, we're gonna do a little fortune cookie. Okay, here we go. Don't know what it says, so let's see. You will soon bring joy to a close friend. Aw. Wow. Do you consider me a close friend? Sure. Yes, so you're gonna bring me joy. That's just good. I love this. I consider myself a good friend. Good luck with whatever you're making for our guest tonight, and we're gonna check in with you later in the show when we come back, everybody! Dude, this is a guest. Take it safe. New York City.

8:51Our first guest is a talented actor who you can see in Matchbox, the movie, which begins streaming on Apple TV this Friday. Please welcome John Cena!

9:10That's right.

9:14They love you, John Cena. Welcome back. I just think they've had a lot of coffee. No. A lot of energy. They love you. Welcome back. Yes. Thank you for being here. It's always my favorite when you come on, because we always do crazy things. You're always game to do anything, and I've known you for so many years, and I thank you so much for being a great guest on the show. Oh, my goodness. I don't know why you keep calling me back. No, stop. Matchbox, the movie. Yes. I'm excited about this. So am I. Yeah. So I'm here to try to make you aware for Matchbox, the movie, coming out on Apple TV, which I really want you to watch.

9:48Absolutely. Because I got my heart and soul, and I think it's a fun ride. Yeah. I just want to take a minute, because I said, hey, man, I don't know why you keep calling me back. This, I did some research, is my 17th time on The Tonight Show.

10:07Do we have anybody that's ever watched WWE in our energetic audience? Yeah. If you have, you know something that the number 17 has great meaning to me. Because I've won a total of 17 championships in the WWE. This is... I'm feeling the vibe. And that stands as the record for the most of all time. Yeah, come on. No big deal. Okay, so now I'm gonna add another branch to the tree. Our celebrity chef, Meredith, opened the show tonight with a fortune cookie, did she not? Yes. What was your fortune? It said, I'm gonna make a close friend very happy. It said, you will bring joy to a close friend. Yes.

10:50That moment is gonna happen right now, because I would consider you a very close friend, who I love very much. Aww. And I have eliminated the word deserve from my vocabulary. But you have earned the right from the Never Seen 17 to the greatest of all time, the Tonight Show Champion, Jimmy Fallon!

11:27I had this custom-made... What are you talking about? This is real? I had this custom-made. It is the basis of the WWE Championship, but as you can see, I had it custom-made specifically for The Tonight Show. John, this is... Now, you can take this home. You can do it. Or maybe make it an offer. This is unbelievable. You've outdone yourself. No, man. This is real. My name is on this belt. I'm not taking it off. Hard to sit in. It's hard to sit in, but it's subtle, and no one will even know the difference. Nobody knows. It looks great. It looks totally not comfy. I'm gonna give you some championship tips here.

12:05Watch this. Hold on. Up you go. Up you go. Thank you. I'm a little old these days, bud. Watch this. Sit. Yep. Like you normally would. Take a normal stance. Hmm. Wow. Look at that. Look at that. Look at that. That's a pro right there. That is a professional right there. Thank you so much for this and for always being great to us. I had no idea you were gonna do this, and I don't want to make this about me, that tonight's Saturday. See, and that's what you do, bud. You, honestly, for real, like, you bring people joy. You make people's nights better. You entertain the audience. You always look out for your friends.

12:43You never put yourself first for that. I thank you, dude. You're an amazing... I love you, bud. I love you, bud. You know that. Love you, too, man. I will treasure this. This means a lot to me. I want to say I was actually going to get to my interview, but you messed it up. Can we talk about Matchbox, the movie? Please, because Apple's in the back. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Apple TV. It's on Apple TV this Friday. I love Matchbox. I grew up with Matchbox cars. Me too. Huge fan of Matchbox. I remember running away from home when I was a kid, and I told my mama, I said, I'm running away, and I had my Matchbox cars.

13:21I took my cars out of this little suitcase. It was a tiny briefcase, and I put my pajamas in it, and I went to the end of the driveway, and I wasn't allowed to cross the street. And I just waited there, and then eventually my mom said, Jimmy, dinner's ready, and come on in. I went in. But I always had my matchbox with me, even if I was running away from home. Sometimes it's the feeling of just being heard. Thank you. That's all I wanted. I just wanted to be heard. Yeah, exactly. It's a big deal. This is every kid's childhood. I always had matchbox play with this. Now they're making it into a giant movie.

13:53You signed on to this movie not even having a script. Which is not my norm. Usually it's gotta be great producer, passionate director, great story. We had a great producer and a passionate director. Skydance, Apple, Mattel, Partners. I did Barbie. I saw what Mattel does with their IP. You were great in Barbie. I thought it was a small, small role. Dude, standing ovation in my theater. Thanks so much. Like I said, Scott, this guy, come on. Sam Hargrave, excellent action director. So I knew at least, you know, the action was gonna be spectacular. Oh, yeah. So right there, I'm like, you know what?

14:23I'll trust the process and hope they bring a good story. And what I love about Matchbox the movie is your nostalgic memory is you running away from home with Matchbox cars. Yes. You know, okay, that's your thing. That's your life through your lens. I'm a comedian, yeah. We have sad backgrounds, yeah. Mine is playing on the west end corner of my dad's house in the dirt with my brothers. We would dump out the Matchbox bucket because there's five of us. We'd draft cars. I'd pick my favorite or they'd pick my favorite and know they could hold it over my hand. So I'd trade a bunch of cars to get my favorite.

14:54Those cars bring back different memories for both of us, but the concept is nostalgia. And what I loved about the story is how Matchbox uses the car as nostalgia. It wasn't a story of like, well, how are they going to do this? Are you going to put a drop of magic dust on a small car and it gets big? No, it's a story about friends who are united through this love of this toy as a kid, and then they grow up and they go their separate ways, and they get caught in chaos. Like, you will show a clip. It's some real chaos. Oh, my gosh. And what keeps them together is nostalgia, hearkening back to a similar time, that time where we could just take out a bunch of toy cars and use our imagination.

15:30It is action-packed. It is action-plus, by the way, this film. You definitely signed on to do the right thing, and you were great in it. I don't know if that was the right choice. Here's you hanging from a helicopter. Yeah, my wife is over there. That scares her every time she sees it. Yeah, exactly. By the way, you're afraid of heights. I am. I had to change my pants like five times. Why is there a brown stream coming off the helicopter? We did a bit on the show where we were above a whipped cream. We were above a pool of whipped cream. Yeah, one of your excellent ideas for a game, by the way.

16:03And we played that, but you were also afraid of heights then as well. I was, and thank you for encouraging me to do that game. I appreciate you being empathetic to my feelings. Thank you. When you do this, when you sign on, do you know that you're going to be hanging from a helicopter? I absolutely do, and I got to tell you, Sam Hargrave is an aspirational human being, and I forged a great friendship with him. Months before we shot, he sent me a syllabus of things I expect from John Cena, wish lists I expect from John Cena, Hail Marys I expect from John Cena. And he was very particular in not only what he expects, but how he expects to execute it in a safe way to build and keep my trust.

16:37I don't know if I'll ever do this again. But if I do, it'll be for Sam Hargrave. Wow, I love that. Not only can you do this, and we trust you and we believe you in these movies when you do stuff like this, but also you have a great sense of humor and a great sense of timing. You are one in a zillion, buddy. We're now here with Meredith Hayden from Wishbone Kitchen. She's making meals for all of our guests tonight. Meredith, what did you make here for John Cena?

17:07Sam Smith: Yes, so today we're going with a little fall menu, and I hear you have a big sweet tooth. I'm here for it. So we decided to do dessert first. Okay. So this is a deconstructed apple pie sundae. Mmm. You've got shortbread cookie kernels on top with some nice warm apples. Oh, my gosh. Don't say enough? The crunch of the shortbread cookies... reminds me of a warm hearth on the... Also, by the way, you made a dessert starting off the night with dessert, which I think is genius, but also, it's apple. Your movie's on apple. Hello! Come on, now! That's how you do it! John Cena, everybody! Max Box the Movie is out Friday on Apple TV.

17:55We'll be right back, everybody.

18:05Everybody?

18:12Well, you know our next guest from House of the Dragon. You can also see them in the new film Digger, which is in theaters and IMAX right now. Please welcome Emma Darcy!

18:28It is so nice to meet you. Congratulations on House of the Dragon. Season 3 hit 34 million viewers per episode. Can you even imagine that? I can't count that high. No, yeah. Yeah. Best one to think about it, I think. Yeah. You're incredible in the show, and you've gotten great reviews for it. Well-deserved. I was talking to you earlier about the audition, and do you have any memories about the audition? Did you know what you were auditioning for? So I didn't, but I think normal people would have known. Like, I got, like, it says, like, untitled project, and you get some sides that are sort of, they're, like, in the genre, but they're not from the script.

19:12And so I thought it was like a, I don't know, like Game of Thrones, like, spoof thing. Like, something piggybacking off the kind of Game of Thrones. Like a rip-off, like, oh, we wish we were Game of Thrones. Yeah, yeah, not untrue, I think. Not actual, yeah. But, yeah, so I did some self-tapes, whatever, and then I had a call with the showrunners, and they had very short hair. I had, like, shorter hair than I have now. And they said, have you got a wig? That makes me laugh. I think that would... They couldn't imagine it. It was unimaginable. They go, do you have any wigs that you could read to?

19:45Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, it was 2020, so it was, like, the middle of lockdown, and so only supermarkets were open. Yeah. And, like, I don't know anybody either, So I said, yes, I can do that for you. It's no problem. So what did you do? So I had, like, a... So I had a bag of hair. Well, I'm just letting the authorities know that you're here. Yeah, yeah, in my own colour. I don't know if that helps my case. How did you have a bag of hair? So I had once done a job and they had cut my hair while I was on another job. It wasn't supposed to happen. And the kind of consolation was like, you know, worst case scenario.

20:25You'll always have your hair. Yeah, yeah. Wow, lucky you. Yeah, yeah. So I had that, but, like, literally a bag of hair, like pieces of weft with no way of attaching them to your head. So... But me and my partner used to, like, run a... We used to run, like, a fringe theatre company. So we're, like, good at improvising and we're also, like, ill-advised. So we, um, we, like, went to a supermarket and we bought, like, some clips and, like, a hot glue gun. And, um, yeah, and no, and then we started sticking bits of hair to the clips. And then there was, like, a research process. But then what's really awful...

21:03I know, because I know what you're looking at. So then... No, but... No, I gotta say... In my defense, like, I... We honestly... Given where we started, we thought this was good. And so then... No, I think it is good. Then we sent it in. No, no, no. There you go. No, no, no, this is the first. This is, I think, honestly, not bad. Well, this is what we thought. I really think this is great. We thought we were ready to shoot, and then we got a response from the showrunners, which was basically like, keep going. And so we did. Oh, in that show. That's worse than the first one. The first one was better, I think.

21:39I think so. It got worse, but I love that they kept calling you back. Yeah, yeah. And then more hair would fall out. Oh, yeah, yeah. A disaster. What they didn't understand was that we were on the clock here. Yeah, you're like, dude, this is not... It is my hair, but it's not my hair. Yeah, yeah, right. It's hard to explain. I hadn't explained what we were working with, because that would have been humiliating. That's correct. Then the final self-tape wig that got you the job. Congratulations. That is a beautiful, well-done wig. So that, I mean, that's all my partner's work. And the real humiliation being that I carried on self-taping, so every time I taped, it would take an hour and a half.

22:21I'd sit on the floor, and my long-suffering partner would... Hot glue. Yeah, would hot glue. Hair to your head. Yeah, congratulations. Yeah, yeah, thanks. It's totally worth it, though. You're crushing it in House of Dragons. So you're very, very good. And well done. Honestly, I love watching you. You also... Your character speaks the language, which I'm going to get the... But is it Valerian? Is that the name? High Valerian, yeah. High Valerian. Yeah, yeah. And it's the language... I don't know, number one, how to act, but not only do I know how to act, I don't know how to say those words. Right, yeah.

22:56I mean, how do you train yourself to speak that language? Yeah, so I have, like, a... There's a process. Like, they send recordings, and they send the High Valerian, and they send a phonetic version, and they send a translation, they send a direct translation. But on top of that, you have to act like you know... Knowing what they mean. Yeah. So I... Yeah, I draw everything really big on bits of paper. I stick them on the wall. And... Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, so this... This was like... So there was... Episode five. It was like mine and Matt's high valerian oral exam. And it was like a big day in the calendar.

23:34You know, we're cramming for the exam and really worried about the exam. And anyway, yeah, so I would, like, look at this, and on the reverse, it will say the English direct translation. And as I'm doing it, I will use kind of, like, gesture to try and, like, I don't know, lock, like... I don't know, put the, like, plug in the socket in terms of new word meaning. I don't know how you do it. It's magic. But you actually brought a quiz for me. Well, I just thought we'd do some, like, basic vocab. Yeah. I mean, I can try my best, and you'll see... Everyone's going to see how hard it is, what Emma does for a living.

24:10But, yeah, sorry. Or not. Or not. Yeah, yeah. All right, so I'm going to show... Yeah. I'm going to show these. I have not seen these yet. OK. So we're starting really easy. OK. So this means what? Skuros? Yeah. That's like, yeah. Skuros? Yeah, yeah. Skuros. Oh, skuros. Yeah, yeah. So good. All right, so skuros, I got. Yeah, so what? Skuros. What? What? Skuros.

24:41Yeah? Well, the line's over the I, so I'm going to say... ...gevi. Yeah. Gevi. That's actually great. Gevi. Gevi. Basically the same. This means good boy.

25:01Gevi. Gevi. Skuros. Heavy. Heavy. Sorry. Heavy. Wow, that's very good. Yeah. And then... Oh, no way. Sterokitties? Steri... Steri... Steri... Steri... Sterokitties? Sterokitties. Seterokitis. Oh, yeah! Seterokitis! Seterokitis. I'm sounding like Schwarzenegger. I would be fired immediately. Stereo-kaisis. Get this Chevy. It's heavy. What the squirrels are doing. How in the world do you know these and then act on top of that is just honestly mind-blowing for me. You are so talented. I really mean that. Thank you for doing that quiz with me. I also want to talk about Digger. Yes. If you don't mind me talking about this.

25:58I loved it. I thought this movie was so cool. We can't give away the plot of this film But man oh man You go toe to toe Tom Cruise is next level in this Incredible The courtroom scene is Master class I think Actually again I don't know why I never know what the hell I'm auditioning for But anyway again All I knew was that it was Inerito's new project And so I was sort of like what do I have to do And again actually Security was madly tight I'd never done this before I went to an audition they hadn't sent me anything before. So I had, in exam conditions, I had 30 minutes to read and learn the scene with no context.

26:35Anyway. You're trained very well, though, because you go, I can do anything. I can... I'm desperate. I've ridden dragons, please. This is nothing, man. I need this. Yeah, and then actually they weren't keen to send the script, but I have a rule, which is that I won't do anything without reading, which I think is a rule you should abandon if you're offered an inner or two gig. But anyway, I should cast. Yeah, if you may. So, no, no, but they sent it. And I think the thing that was, like, so striking is the density of ideas. I think there is, like, a tendency to think that stories need to be kind of simplified or dumbed down.

27:12And I just felt, I felt so excited to read something that wasn't looking to patronize its audience. Wow, there's levels on this. Yeah. And also, by the way, the sets are giant and gorgeous. Yeah. It is a beautiful movie. Stunning. Like, the visual language is, I don't even know, it's, like, so defined. It's so utterly itself. I don't know. I think that's like what I want when I go to the cinema. That specificity. It's so well done, and you got to be proud of that. We're back here with Meredith Hayden from Wishbone Kitchen. She's been hanging out with us all night. Meredith, what do we have for Emma Darcy?

27:48Sam Smith: We started off with apples, so now we're going to my second favorite, fall veg. We've got a spicy squash pasta here. It's made with a puree of honey nut squash And it's topped with a little spicy, crunchy chili oil This is fantastic Do you like squash? Yeah, well, yeah, I do I feel like I'm already in your debt Like, do you want to come to my house? Oh, no! Oh, my goodness, please This is like Yeah Oh, man Wow, come on You're always looking out That's how you do it right there Meredith, come on Emma Darcy, Diggers in Theaters and IMAX Now. We'll be right back with Sam Smith. Look at this jam.

28:42Our next guest is a multi-platinum-selling artist who has won five Grammys and an Oscar. Their latest album, Hazel Eyes, is out now. Everyone, please welcome Sam Smith!

29:02You look fantastic! Thank you. Welcome back. It's always great to see you. Congratulations. Yeah, Sam Smith is here. Hazel Eyes is the new record. Congratulations on this. It's the name of the album, also the name of a song. What is the story behind Hazel Eyes?

29:23Sam Smith: Well, I... All this music kind of came with me. I moved to New York three years ago now. Wow. You're a New Yorker? No, I'm not. You can't... I can't say that yet. I can't say that. I'm close. Really? How many years do you need? I got told it was, like, ten. What?! I feel like you need, like, 30 to be able to call yourself that. Surely. All right, all right. But I love it. I'm a wannabe New Yorker. Okay, good. All right, we'll work on it. And I just love being here so much. This music has kind of traveled me from London to here, and just it's about my relationship. It's about love. And it's, yeah, I love it so much.

30:00It's a fantastic album. And is the person you're in love with have hazel eyes?

30:09Sam Smith: Okay, so I have a confession. I thought that hazel eyes, when I was writing the album, I thought hazel eyes were brown, like hazelnut. Yeah. Turns out they're not. Wait, so the person you wrote this for doesn't have hazel eyes? Well, I thought hazel eyes were brown eyes, but no. They have brown eyes. And I found out like four months after I shot the cover, all my clothes were brown for the whole album campaign. It's a nightmare. No. But I... It should be called brown eyes. It should be called hazelnut eyes. Okay, wait a minute.

30:55Hazelnut eyes. Oh, my God. That's so funny.

30:57Sam Smith: I'm changing the definition. Oh, yes, you are changing the definition. You've written so many great songs and some of the most beautiful songs and heartbreaking songs. But it must feel good to... or feel different, even, to write about happy stuff and happy songs. Yeah, I mean, it's been beautiful writing about love from, like, a happier place, but I was always nervous that I wouldn't be able to reach, you know, I guess, layers of emotions if you were to fall in love, but that was because I'd never been in love. And when you're really in love with someone, there's still ups and downs, especially when you're dating me, because I'm very dramatic.

31:34Sam Smith: So... Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was able to... I feel like I can actually write sadder songs better now that I'm in a relationship, weirdly. I feel like I can pull more emotion out because I feel safe at home and good. Good for you. I love that. It's very... It's so full. It's bluesy. It's gorgeous. Is that the sound... Is that what you wanted it to be like? Or did you just go with where you're living right now? I think, for me, every album for me is a different expression, a different, I guess, mood. And because I was moving from London to New York, I just wanted to... I wanted something soft. After Gloria, which was very intense and naked and gay, Yes.

32:13Sam Smith: I wanted to be with my friends and just be around real instruments and singing from my heart and my soul, and this is what it sounded like. And do you always know that you were going to be on the cover of all of your albums? Like, you're very good looking. Oh, thanks. But, I mean, is that you go, oh, maybe I'll change up this album. If I'm honest, I have like an absolute meltdown every time I make an album because I never want to be on the cover. But it's become quite addictive to, like, see the change and the pattern. I've got OCD, so, like, I feel like I can't break the pattern now. And it looks nice, doesn't it?

32:50Sam Smith: Yes, it does. It does. It is. It does. Do you remember what phase you were in, you know, in Lonely Hour? Oh, my God, yeah. I was absolutely fat and shattered. And just very lonely. And very, I mean, that album changed my life. I went from working in a bar to touring the world, like, three times in two years. By the way, the last tour you're doing right now, you're doing these kind of residencies. Why did you challenge yourself to do those? I thought that was an interesting move. I feel like people are doing that now because of you. Oh, well, thank you. You started something. I actually started here in New York, an amazing venue called Warsaw in Brooklyn, which was an incredible venue.

33:37Sam Smith: And I've just been performing in arenas for so long, and after the last five years, I've changed a lot in the public eye, and I think I just wanted a chance to look at people in the eyes and kind of see what my audience had become. And I've done it in New York, San Francisco, Mexico, London, and it was just an incredible experience. What have you seen? Is it fantastic? It's completely changed. Like, from my first album to now, like, I'm still so happy with my audience. all different types of people. Yeah. But it's changed. It's, you know, a little bit gayer sometimes, which makes me really happy.

34:13Sam Smith: And, um, but the spirit is still the same. I just, I love my fan base. It's a beautiful thing. What song are you performing tonight for us? I'm performing a song called Oh Mother, which I composed with the Two City Choir Chorus, who are this amazing choir that I work with on this album. Some of them from New York, some of them from Philadelphia. and when you hear them, your mind is going to be blown. It's fantastic. Get ready for it. It's gorgeous. I also... By the way, I follow you on the socials. You're a good follow. But you also have a thing called Sam Served. I have an alter ego. Yes. And I follow that as well.

34:52They're called Ham Smith. Yes. Ham Smith is just... You started posting about food.

34:59Sam Smith: Yes. I had a kebab in Copenhagen in a place called Kebabistan. Yeah. And this kebab... That should be the opening line of a song. I had a kebab in a kebabistan. Kebabistan. Yeah. And it just, this kebab changed my life. I can't explain. Like, it changed my life, and I started an Instagram account called Sam-widges. Oh, yeah. That's right. Sam-widges. And then I changed it to Sam-served, and now I just film myself being a fat pig, and it's amazing. No. But it started off, you had, like, 10 ,000 followers, whatever that I just checked today. It's over a million. You have a million. There's a lot of fat piggies.

35:36No, that's...

35:39Sam Smith: I love it. I love food. And food and music for me goes so beautifully together. You picked the perfect night for food because we have one of the best chefs ever who's been cooking all night long. Meredith Hayden is here. Meredith, do you have the final dish for Sam? Hi, bud. Oh, my goodness. This is Meredith. This is Sam. Meredith, you can have a seat over there. Meredith, what did you bring up for Sam Smith? And why did you make this dish? Yeah, rumor has it you have a thing for caviar. I do. And I'll take any excuse to serve caviar. So these are my crispy roasted potatoes, chocolate creme fraiche, and caviar.

36:18Sam Smith: Do you know what? In the U.S., fish and chips are a big thing in the U.K., and I can't really get good fish and chips here, so I call caviar and potatoes fish and chips. Oh, my goodness. That is... Well, here's to the new record. Cheers, Meredith. Have the cheers with us, please. Sam Smith, everybody. Meredith Hayden. Hazel Eyes is out now. Best of luck. Cheers, darling. Stick around, everybody. Thank you, Meredith!

36:52My thanks to John Cena, Jessica Biel, Emma Darcy, Meredith Hayden once again! Sam Smith! The Two-City Chorus!

37:07And the Roots right there from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Good night, everybody. Thank you.

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