Trump's Approval Rating Hits ANOTHER Record-Breaking Low Ahead of Midterms | with Sacha Baron Cohen, KJ Apa, Beck | Tuesday, October 20

0:05From Studio 6P in Rock and Roller Center in the heart of New York City, it's The Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon. When I join Jimmy and his guests, Sacha Baron Cohen, AJ Apa, Beck, and featuring the legendary Ruth.

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1:14Thanks for being here. Well, guys, earlier tonight, the NBA season kicked off right here on NBC.

1:24That's right. Basketball is back. And speaking of orange things that keep getting slammed...

1:32President Trump is in the news. That's right. Trump and the Republicans continue to struggle in the polls, and the midterm elections are now officially two weeks away. Yep. It's 14 days till the election and 15 days till Trump claims it was rigged. So that's... So you know. How does your family celebrate the midterms? Do you watch Trump meltdown on election night or wait till the next morning? Either way, it's exciting. Either way. Meanwhile, ahead of the midterms, Trump's approval rating just hit a record low. Trump staffers were like, this time of year, we prefer to think of it as fun-sized.

2:09I think Trump is running out of ideas. First, he offered people$5 ,000, and today he said, if you vote Republican, you can be my press secretary. You know what I mean? Five days at the White House. Why not? It's fun. It's a good gig. Why not? I...

2:27Trump is trying everything. He just asked Nathan Fielder to make a documentary about him called You Can See Everything But the Epstein Files. You can tell Trump is worried about the midterms because he's currently on a nationwide campaign blitz, hitting seven states in seven days. The states are denial, anger, bargaining, depression, desperation, really desperate, and really, really desperate. I'll do this, too.

2:53And at a rally last night, Trump again bragged about being able to pick out the giraffe on a cognitive test. I'd love to meet a voter who's like, the economy is a mess, we're at war, but the man knows his giraffes. I mean, got to give him that he's a giraffe present. Yep, the midterms are just two weeks away, and there's an interesting race in the Missouri House of Representatives. People online noticed that the two candidates for the seat in the 158th district look a little similar. Their names are Chris Foster and Scott Cupps. Can we see them? This is real.

3:28Yes. Their campaign ads are pretty unique, though. I mean, check out this commercial from Chris Foster. Hi, I'm Chris Foster, and nothing says Missouri like mutton chops, a colorful tie, and a nice pair of spectacles. So, but for me, Chris Foster. Kind of weird, right? Now, here's an ad from Scott Cups. Howdy, I'm Scott Cups, and nothing says Missouri like mutton chops, a colorful tie, and a big old cowboy hat. So vote for me, Scott Cupps. I mean, really, really leaning into their looks. I mean, here's another ad from Foster. Hi, Chris Foster again. And now I have a cowboy hat, too. How do you like them apples?

4:08Foster for the win. Okay. Now here's a response from Cupps. Howdy. It's Scott Cupps again. And now I have spectacles and two colorful ties. Checkmate, bitch. Strange. Now, here's one last ad. Hi, Chris Foster here, and I'm tired of fighting. Aren't you, Scott? I sure am, Chris. We ought to get along. I know. You're like my brother from another... Wait a second. Who's your mother? Oh, I knew you boys would find out one day. The Parent Trap 2, in theaters November 3rd. I want to see that movie. Fandango, I got to see that. I love that. Fandango. While everyone's still talking about how White House press secretary Katie Zachariah was fired after just five days on the job, and part of the reason was because she claimed to be a lawyer, even though she didn't pass the bar exam.

4:59Here now to comment about it is Katie Zachariah. Welcome to the show, Katie. Good morning.

5:10Thanks for having me, Jimmy. Well, Katie, I'm just going to get right to it. Why did you claim to be a lawyer when you never passed the bar exam? Listen, it doesn't matter if you pass the bar and become a lawyer if you know the law. And despite not having the title, I am 100 % fluent in legal-ish. So you're saying you know everything about the law even though you failed the bar exam? Sustained. Right. So you wouldn't mind if I asked you about some basic legal terms right now? Not at all. Like I said, I know the, uh, um, the, uh, law. Okay, then what is habeas corpus? Oh, habeas corpus. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what Harry Potter yells when he kills Baltimore.

6:01Okay, what are Miranda rights? Um, that I don't know, because I'm actually more of a Samantha. I think I'm going to make things a little easier. What's an appeal? Oh, that's the part of the banana that does not taste very good. A joint petition. A joint petition. That's when you ask, okay, who here has weed? Uh... What about a sequester? Oh, come on! That's the drummer for The Roots. Hi, sequester! Oh, my God!

6:43That's a good question. All right, one more question. What is a precedent? The man who just fired me. All right, thank you. I think we're done. Katie Zachariah, everyone. Thank you for being here. Thank you. No, no, not that way. No, no, back this. Towards the other way. The other way. The other way. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. Good morning. Yeah, good morning to you. Good morning to you. Well, switching gears to some business news, Apple has announced a product event for later this month where they're expected to debut a touchscreen Mac. They even have a cool name for it, an iPad. Some more business news, KFC announced that all their restaurants are switching from Pepsi to Coca-Cola.

7:29Right now, it's the one positive thing Trump can point to on his first two years. We did it, folks! We got them a switch? Pepsi told their shareholders, we don't have KFC. Is Popeyes okay? I knew that would land that way. I knew... No, some of these jokes are just for me. No, no, some of them... We don't have KFC. Is Popeyes okay?

7:59Well, some big entertainment news. I read that Jay-Z has reportedly picked himself to perform at the Super Bowl halftime show. Jay-Z didn't want to pick himself, but then Jay-Z suggested it, and Jay-Z was like, I guess Jay-Z does have a point. We have a great show from the new movie, Ali G, Who Is I? Sacha Baron Cohen is here tonight.

8:24KJ Apa is joining us. And we've got talk from Beck. Stick around. Come on.

8:45Our first guest is an Oscar-nominated actor and writer. He stars in and makes his directorial debut with his latest movie, Ali G, Who Is I, which is in theaters this weekend only. Please welcome Sasha Baron Cohen! Oh.

9:09Wow!

9:16Yes! Oh, my God! Boom! Yeah. Ow! Yeah, oh, my gosh. High dramatic. That's how you make an entrance. That's how you make an entrance. Just a water for you right there if you need it. Thank you for coming. Welcome back. Thank you for being here. Congratulations on... I need about 10 minutes. Oh, I'm sorry. Congratulations on the new movie, Ali G, Who Is I, in theaters this weekend only. I want to say, when Ali G... The movie, by the way, it's so dense with jokes. I can't wait to get into how you even created this and how many years it probably took you to make this and pull this off. It's insane.

9:58But years ago, when Ali G became popular in America, I know Spike Lee asked you to do a bunch of commercials for basketball, right? That's right. That's right. Because we're following NBA tonight here on NBC, and you actually worked with Spike. Here's a picture of you and Spike. Is this... That's right. That is Spike. You've got every height of man known possible. Yes. That's Spike. That's Spike. That's Kobe Bryant. The one and only. The late Kobe Bryant, the great. Yes. That's Ali G. And that is my co-writer, Ant Hines. And what was Covey like? Well, it was great, because I was... As Ali, I was...

10:36You know, we didn't tell any of the basketball players what I was going to ask. I was like, yo, how many springs does the basketball have in it? And he goes, well, it doesn't have any springs. It's got air in it. I go, well, this room's got air in it. How come the room ain't bouncing? And I had said to him before the interview, I said, listen, I've got an idea as myself. Yeah. And I said, I'm going to come on... This was during the beef between him and Shaq. And I said, I'm gonna come on wearing Shaq's jersey. And he said, he goes, Sasha, if you do that, I will punch you in the face. And so I immediately said, I go, it was not my idea, it was his idea, and I pointed to Anne.

11:14Yeah, that's what the writers... And he said, if he says that, I will punch you in the face. Is that right? He was joking, and then he gave me his boots. Which are for sale, actually. No, you're not... That's why I'm here. You're not selling, no. No, I would never sell them. That was nice. He's got a great sense of humor. How do you describe Ali G as a character? He is a white, cultural-appropriating imbecile who steals the mannerisms. He's from a suburb. He's a middle-class kid from a place called Staines outside of London near Windsor Castle, who wants to be like his favorite, you know, rap and rugger stars.

11:56So he's obsessed by Tupac Shakur. He just throws up the West Side. Despite being from this kind of provincial place. I don't know how you pulled this off, because he's so popular. And I saw you went to Wimbledon as Ali G. That's right. And you were asked to leave Wimbledon. That's right. As Ali G. This is real. Let's take a look at what happened. Take a look at this. The complaint we've had is you turning around and offering children behind you things that you shouldn't be doing. What? I ain't a kiddie fiddler. What was that offering? Well, we've been offered that you said. Offered them cigarettes, drugs.

12:32No, that ain't true. We ain't got no drugs. That was him.

12:42I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you always get into all this crazy trouble, but, I mean, you weren't offering drugs. That's not what Ali G does. Ali G is not about drugs or anything illegal. He would never do that. He would never do that. No. I have a photo of you getting thrown out of Wimbledon. It's you leaving Wimbledon with a jacket that says, official ganja dealer. Okay, yeah.

13:08So. Yeah, yeah. He was selling drugs. Okay, sorry. Sorry. My fault. I just don't want to get arrested. Why is right now the right time to bring back Ali G? Well, I think the fact that Ali G is such an outdated and problematic culture that he's a culture appropriator meant that this was the time to bring back, a time of great political division. And so we have a character on the far right trying to destroy him, and a character on the far left also trying to destroy him. You play both characters. Yes, I play all three. You play the character trying to destroy Ali G. This is you as Ali G. This is you as Ali G.

13:43Great outfit. This is... I put on some weight, true. No, that is really... And then this is you as the guy who's trying to take out Ali G. Dr. Is it Naira Kane? Dr. Naira Kane in Degicello. -"In Degicello." He is... He is so politically correct, he makes AOC look maca. Okay, I understand, yeah. But he's a professor, yeah? He's a professor. He was from a show I did called Who is America? And, you know, I tried him out in a few places, to the few real places. So we did a thing with him in Kingman, Arizona, where he had this building project that was going to bring a huge amount of money to all the inhabitants of Kingman, Arizona, hundreds of millions of dollars, and it was the biggest mega mosque outside of Saudi Arabia.

14:37And people went absolutely crazy once they heard it was a mega mosque. And it was just a real way to kind of show Islamophobia, and somebody went, yeah. I go, you're sounding kind of racist. And the guy goes, I am racist. I was like, it was mind-blowing how much society had changed. And that was 2018. That's two of the characters you play in the film. You have another... You play this character as well, the colonel. Yes, that is Colonel Iran Murad. He's like this extreme stereotype of an Israeli special ops guy. And on the same show, who is America, I interviewed Judge Roy Moore. I remember this.

15:17And I had it. I go, we want to show you the latest technology coming out of the army. This is what's called a pedophile detector. And I go, look, with us, it cannot go off. And I go, look. And then I go near Roy Moore. He goes, beep, beep. And I go, it's malfunctioning. It is malfunctioning. It's a pedophile detector. Yeah. That led to him suing me for$95 million. Did he win? Which is why I need to sell those boots. You got to go see it. You got to see Ali G in theaters this weekend. I got to say, it was... There's so many insane things in this thing. It starts off, Ali G is now broke because his show was canceled off of HBO years ago.

16:00And he wanted more money, and it was canceled. So he's actually pawning all of his stuff. His girlfriend, who is fantastic. She's amazing. She's so funny. Wulkeana, incredible. What's her name? Wulkeana Robinson. She's an incredible English comedian. Brilliant. And so she's pregnant, and so you have to raise money. You're at a pawn shop. You're pawning all this stuff from your house for fake jewelry and stuff. And then you're pawning a fax machine, and the guy, the actor is not an actor. He's real. No, no, no. Everybody in the movie is real. Yeah. I don't know how... Everybody in the movie is real, apart from two people.

16:32One is A$AP Rocky, and the other one is his partner. I can't remember. She did a song about umbrellas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll Google it. I'll Google it. But, yeah, she's in the film as well. And so you pawn this fax machine, and the guy's like, I don't know if it proved that it works. So they plug in the fax machine, and then you get a fax. And it's a fax from HBO saying that they want to pick up your show for another season. So immediately you write a song called I Is Richer Than Elon Musk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, the music is great. Thank you. Well, we had incredible producers.

17:08We had legendary hip-hop producer, Hitboy. It's massive. We had Andrew Watt, multiple Grammy Award winner. And we had an incredible music supervisor, Questlove.

17:24I don't know how... It's so... I don't know how you pulled it all off. And you directed it, too. And, oh, the hot tub thing made me laugh. Oh, my gosh. There's so many bits in there that people will be quoting all weekend. But what was the most difficult scene out of all these? Well, the final scene is an eight-hour continuous scene. It does not stop. I'm wearing a prosthetic head. I'm wearing... I'm playing that Israeli character. And I switch halfway through into Ali G. And it had, like, we had 200 crew members. It took place over 50 miles, 12 locations. There are explosions along the way. It's involving real people.

18:02Yeah. There's action in this movie. There's everything in this movie. Yeah, I mean, there's actually... The actress gives birth in the middle of the scene. Middle of this eight-hour scene. But a fake baby. It's a fake baby, but they believed it was real. And so we worked with the best prosthetics people, animatronics. This baby comes out of a fake. Can I just do it? No, no, you can't. But, yes, we understand. Are the legs real? The legs are not real, but we worked with magicians. It was psychologists. But, you know, you have an eight-hour scene. The most 200 crew, there's 400 beats to it, 400 things that can go wrong.

18:42And it was coming to be incredible. The first time we did it, I'm taking a look. Somebody has to kidnap this pregnant woman in the scene, a real person, and we're on our way to kidnap. I mean, it's an action movie, so we're on the way, and this guy goes, this is a real guy, he goes, and I'm playing the other guy, he goes, you're nervous. I go, nervous? Nervous? and he points at my crotch. I said, why are you pointing there at my billboard? And there he goes, you've wet yourself. And it was completely wet. What happened was my prosthetic head, I was drinking about 17 liters of Pedialyte and it had sweated all the way through there, through my fat suit and congregated around there.

19:26Even that worked. Yeah, so, but next time, then a fire broke out. The whole thing was a nightmare. I lost millions. Please let me sell your boots. No, no, no, no. You're not going to sell Kobe Bryant sneakers. I had to develop... We had to develop with special effects people a way for me to urinate with this kind of cup. And it was a disaster. It is... Don't do it. Don't try it at home. Why not? They can try it. Nobody like you, buddy. Thank you. Genius. Sacha Baron Cohen, everybody. Ali G, who is Ali, is in theaters this Friday, this weekend. We'll be right back with more Tonight Show. Stick around.

20:18Our next guest is a very talented performer who stars as the legendary actor Jimmy Stewart in the new movie Jimmy. It's in theaters nationwide November 6th. Everyone, please welcome K.J. Appa!

20:36Thank you. That's right! KJ! Welcome back to the show. You're a stud. Come on. Thanks for having me. I got to say, since the last time you were here, congratulations. You became a dad. I did. Oh, well done, bud. Congrats. How old is he now? He's five. Five years? Two or five, three weeks ago. Jeez, and what's he into? I don't know why is that so funny. Yeah, I don't know, yeah. It's cute. Spider-Man. He's into Spider-Man. And dinosaurs. Of course. Yeah, that's what he's into. Halloween's gonna be a big one, for sure. I heard when you were growing up, I read somewhere that you were really into Jim Carrey.

21:14I love Jim Carrey. That was your guy? Grew up on Jim Carrey, watched Jim Carrey. He was my biggest inspiration in my life. Really? As a performer, yeah. And seeing all of his movies and everything. I love Jim Carrey. Bruce Almighty, Liar Liar, Ace Ventura. Yeah. I heard that you can do Jim Carrey's face. Which one? He's got a lot of faces. I just heard that there's a way you can... Okay, ready? Yeah.

21:44I love it. Every time you're on the show, we make you do something fun. Thank you for doing that. We always talk about music, too, on the show when I'm with you. And there's a person out there that you've been mistaken for called Mr. Fantasy. And I have a photo of him. I hate to bring this up to this tour subject to you, but there's a character. Here's Mr. Fantasy. And a lot of people think that that's actually you. And then I saw a photo of... I know it's upsetting for you, so I apologize. I saw a photo of you having dinner with Mr. Fantasy. So... We did. Yeah, we had dinner. So was there beef or...

22:27Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, there's no beef. It was really just... I was a little concerned because there was some identity theft things happening, and I put some stuff online, and then he was like, let's just catch up and have a chat. And so I did it. He's a great guy. Okay, perfect. That's fantastic. So, Mr. Fantasy, if you're watching, yeah. You should meet him. He's cool. Yeah, I'd love to. I want to talk about the new movie, Jimmy, because at first I was excited. I'm like, they're finally making a movie. Wow. And you didn't get the right thing. What a perfect guy to play me. But honestly, it's about the great one and only Jimmy Stewart, who I love.

23:07But you actually have a connection with the name Jimmy. I love the name Jim Carrey, Jimmy. I'm Jimmy. My name's Jimmy. I've been Jimmy before I got cast as Jimmy. People call me Jimmy. Everyone calls me Jimmy. This is real, though. My sister called me Jimmy for the last 10 years The cast of Riverdale It's like a running joke that we have with our friends And the name Jimmy is Everyone knows someone called Jimmy in their friend group And they're usually Legends Wow Yeah, legends Jimmy's are? You, Jimmy Wow, thank you very much Jimmy Kimmel, yeah, thank you very much He's another legend Jimmy Buffett And then, of course, Jimmy Stewart So you get this opportunity to do Jimmy Stewart The name of the movie is Jimmy Everyone's texting you like Are you kidding me?

23:52I got so many calls being like, so is this a Piazza? Are you actually in a movie called Jimmy? And I was like, yeah, no, I am. And they were like, are you Jimmy? I'm like, I'm Jimmy. They're that great. Finally. But you did such a great job. And you even got the voice down perfectly, by the way. Thanks, man. It was just tricky to do. And not be an impersonation. Totally, totally. I mean, everyone who knows and loves Jimmy is aware of that voice. Yeah. And it's a beautiful voice. Yeah. And the way that he moves on screen. I mean, he's such a beloved American man. Did you work with a vocal coach?

24:24Yeah, Eliza Simpson. She's based out of New York. Yeah, absolutely. She's great. Great. And we worked really hard. We worked really hard. The movie's set during a period of his life that I didn't even know anything about, but Jimmy Stewart left Hollywood to serve the country. Yeah, as a B-24 bomber pilot. I did not know this. I don't know why I didn't know this. Legendary. World War II? Yes, World War II, and then came back and made it a wonderful life. Wow. And he actually was begging to be a part of the war. He wanted to be useful, and he comes from a lineage of men who fought in wars, and I think he felt it was his, you know, he had to do it.

25:02You know, he... That's why I love this story, I think, because he was the type of guy, you know, you hear people talk about him, and his daughter Kelly was a part of the movie the whole time, and he wanted to do the right thing and not the easy thing, you know, in that point in time. And I just... It's a dream to play characters like that. Yeah? Yeah. There's also something really cool the movie's doing for veterans. Can you tell everyone what that is? Yeah, free tickets for the veterans. And this movie is really for them. Free? Yeah. And I think, um... Yeah. We made this movie to really honor veterans and to honor what Jimmy did for his country.

25:41And, um... So if you go to vettix.org, any veteran can see this movie for free. Good for you. Come on. KJ Apa, everyone! Jimmy is in theaters November 6th. More Tonight Show after the break. Stick around, everybody. We got it.

26:14Our next guest is a Grammy-winning artist whose latest album, Ride Lonesome, is available now. Please welcome Beck!

26:31Oh, that's what I'm talking about. Beck!

26:37Beth, welcome back to the show. Thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having me. You have had such an amazing career. You've gone multi-platinum with Loser. Odile turned 30 this summer. Eight. Eight Grammy Awards. But I read somewhere that you wrote your first song on a calculator. Yeah, my first instrument was a... It was like a pocket calculator. Yeah. And it made little notes on each number. Wow. And you made a song out of it. Yeah, I made a little song. It was called Bells Are Ringing. It kind of had like a doorbells kind of sound to it. And was it just you? Was it solo, Beck? It was solo.

27:21And then I recruited my brother. Wow. We found a trash can. He turned it upside down. Wow. Then I graduated to a Casio. Yeah, there you go. That's the normal steps. We had our anthem was called Regular Rock. Wow. Regular rock. Regular rock. Oh, wow. I actually asked you to maybe choose albums and maybe just show some of your influences in your life. And you chose. Thank you for doing this. Yeah. I don't really know any of them, to be honest. But I want to go through them and maybe have you. Oh, you know that one. Well, I, uh... Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, I know of the film. I don't know.

28:00I mean, hi-ho, hi-ho? I... Okay, I actually didn't have the album. I had the 45, which was just Snow White singing in the Wishing Well, and she's, like, longing for her prince or something. Oh, yeah. And I was probably two or three, and I remember having this kind of moment of pathos, like this deep, you know, longing and, you know, sadness. Yeah. Like a romantic sadness. This is where it all comes from. Wow. Yeah. Thank you, Snow White, for giving us back. I mean, that's really...

28:34Uh, Mississippi John Hurt, The Immortal. Yeah. Oh, someone knows that. One person knows that. I'm not familiar. This is where I learned how to play guitar and finger pick. He was a blues musician. They rediscovered him in the 60s. and I saw this at a friend's house. His dad had this, it had all this psychedelic lettering with his face. You know, it was just like, I was like, what is this? And I took it home and it kind of changed my life. Would you play his music? Would you play? Oh yeah, yeah, I play his songs. We do gigs on the city bus. On the bus? Laundromats, laundromats, yeah. Wow. On the street.

29:14That was your gig? Yeah, there was a group of guys I knew called the Cacophony Society and so they would be like, okay, on Thursday night we're gonna show up at the laundromat and have a microphone and a speaker and we're gonna play a gig. You know, bring your instruments, you know. For free, just nothing. Any gig's a gig. Yeah, they do all, they had a newsletter, so every month they'd out all their activities and one of them would be like, go to Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills and we're all gonna dress in mud and have a mud parade. Just like, wow. And this wasn't, you know, this was like 35 years ago, so.

29:48Yeah, no internet. This was not for Instagram or anything. No, this is... How about this? Gary Wilson? This is a deep cut. We used to, you know, go to thrift stores and try to find albums. And, like, so much music was out of print at the time, you know, in my early 20s. And so, Buddy, my colleague, really excited, he found this at a thrift store. And we listened to it And it's I think there were 500 copies or something This guy made it in his parents' basement In the late 70s And it's kind of proto-Prince Kind of like songs like 6.4 Equals Makeout Yes You know that record, right? He knows this record He sat in with us Remember he wore the doctor's outfit Oh, he's been here Yes, he was dressed as a doctor Yeah.

30:40Yeah. Uh-huh. Wow. Yeah. That's wild. And then I've heard of Kraftwerk. Oh, yeah. But Computer World, how did you get into Kraftwerk? I saw this on TV when I was about 11 or 12, and it's these four guys from Dusseldorf, and they made their early electronic music. They're kind of the... I guess the originators of a lot of modern electronic music. But they kind of all dressed the same, kind of like Devo, where they had their hair slicked back and wore matching outfits, and they were kind of robotic. Yeah. And I was just like, those are my guys. That's my people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my people.

31:15I'm into my calculator. They had these handheld instruments, and they're like, I am the operator of my pocket calculator. But the best thing is you go down, you know, to Hollywood Boulevard or whatever, and everyone was breakdancing to that record. Is that right? Yeah. I've probably seen you live 50 times. I'm lucky enough to see you. You're one of the best live shows I've ever seen. I love you. I'm a fan from the beginning. Thank you for coming. and... Yeah, do you remember me? I remember. I was waving, waving. I remember being on SNL, maybe my first time, and you were pacing the hallway, and I think you were new, too.

31:50Yeah. And I was like, are you nervous? And you were like, no, I'm fine, I'm fine. You were both... We were both sweating. Yeah, we were both nervous. But I remember, I saw you maybe once, you had a bed come down from the ceiling. Oh, yeah. You did Debra, and you had silk sheets on the bed. Silk sheets. And you would get on the bed and roll around and do this whole bit. It was funny, but it was cool. And it was like, who is this guy? I've never seen anyone like that in my life. And talented. You could sing like no one sang. You could play guitar. You could do everything. And you were just... I loved every bit of your stuff.

32:26And these guys were on the tour. Yeah? Oh, yeah. They were on the tour. Yeah. And then you went on the... You used to come up on stage and we'd do the slide. Do the dance. Yeah. We do the slide together. Oh, really? It was... I wish I had footage of that. Yeah. That was good. You can find it somewhere. No, you don't want that. Yeah. No, he doesn't want it. Yeah. But now the Ride and Lonesome tour. By the way, congrats on the album. Thank you. It's getting great reviews. Thank you. It's worth the wait. Really great. Ride and Lonesome. This is the tour you're doing now, the Ride and Lonesome tour.

33:03It's beautiful. It's very kind of... How do you pitch this? Austere. Yes. I kind of, we kind of came up, my buddy Ryan, we kind of came up with a bunch of the stuff, kind of, it's sort of like, you know, when you're a little kid and you're making a fort in the living room with, you know, it's that kind of mentality. Pillows. Let's put a purple light there. What happens if we put a chair there? But it's a lot of space. There's a lot of kind of emptiness, you know, like a giant stage with just like a little human, and none of the big, you know, production stuff. Yeah. Do you like that better or just different?

33:40I saw Samuel Beckett play years ago, and it always struck me how minimal it was. And it just, it was so much there. You know, you could feel like this human presence. Yeah. Without all the lasers and the screens and everything. No, this is just music and you. Just the music. Yeah, and music and the audience. Congrats on this. And you said this is a companion to Sea Change. Yeah, it's the same musicians. We went to the same studio. You know, it's kind of all the guys that came up with touring in the 90s and kind of like an extended family of musicians. It's a beautiful record. Thank you. Great songs.

34:18Appreciate it. Thank you. It's some sad songs. It's some moody kind of stuff. It's like the mood of, like, when you're in your house and it's almost dark, but you haven't turned the lights on. It's kind of like blue hour. If you're in that mood... That's a great way to describe it. No, everyone just went, yeah, wow. This is that. Oh, wow. You know, you're just kind of like, huh. Yeah, that's it. Life. Yeah, life is good, yeah. I read somewhere that when you were doing Sea Change to get you not too depressed, you would watch Zoolander. I love Zoolander. I was actually told by somebody who was in the movie, they claimed that the Hansel character...

35:01Yeah. Owen Wilson? Owen Wilson character was based on me, or partly based on me. Which I don't know if it's true, but I'll take it, because, I mean, Hanson, Beck Hanson, Hansel. Oh, yeah. It's, you know. Was it because of your hair? What was it? I think it was just the freewheeling something. I don't know. They asked me to be the movie, and I stupidly said no. They got David Bowie, and it was just... It's like, dang, oh, man, I could have... No, they could have had Beck. They got Bowie to do it. I have a picture of you side by side. I kind of see a little, maybe a little... I think... Not bad.

35:41You know, there was a day where I was wearing this. Yeah, there was stuff that you could wear. That's a more recent photo. Yeah. Congrats on the album. And what song are you playing for us tonight? It's called In the Night. In the Night. Uh... Buddy, there's nobody like you. I'm so happy you're here. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for having me, man. You're my faves. Nice to see you. Beck! Rod Lultum is available now. Hey, stick around!

36:17My thanks to Sacha Baron Cohen, K.J. Appa, Carl Anthony Towns, Beck once again! And the Roots right there from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Good night, everybody.

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