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15:46Zach Lahn:And when they're tenants on that land and they're paying high dollar rent, because the only way you can justify a high price like that is very high rent, you're stripping away a lot of, go back to say this, like kind of the spiritual aspect of this. And that land is best when it's owned and farmed by the same person. We know this. We know this from, if you own rental properties, whatever it may be. Like there's a connection of stewardship that comes with that to know that I'm passing this piece of ground on to my grandkids and their kids and their kids. And that's what it should be. but that is being actively taken away in our state.

16:28Zach Lahn:It's two other things that I think are big systemic issues that are on my scorecard, as I'd say is, one is our farmers are actively being exploited by big ag companies. When I was growing up, born in Iowa, we had over 300 seed and input companies, fertilizer and agrochemical companies that were selling to our farmers Today, that number's three. That control 85 % of the market. Over 90 % of seed technology is owned by two companies. Monsanto. Actually, it's Bayer and Corteva own 90 % of the, which owns Monsanto now.

17:09Tucker Carlson:Yeah. Seed technology. No, of course, but I forgot that Monsanto doesn't actually exist anymore, does it?

17:14Zach Lahn:I don't think so. They changed the name. Yeah.

17:16Tucker Carlson:It was bought by Bayer in Germany.

17:18Zach Lahn:Yeah. They're sure mentioned a lot in court still, but they're not a company. So if you look at the long-term trend that anytime there's a rise in commodity prices, these input costs go up even though there's not a direct correlating factor. There's a study out of the University of Illinois. And this study compared the cost of farming in Brazil to the cost of farming in Illinois, Iowa, basically. And you have to understand that the three big companies in America that provide these inputs are also the same three big companies in Brazil, Bayer, Corteva, and Syngenta. That study said that for growing corn using the same application rate, that they're charging Brazilian farmers about$150 less per acre than they are Iowa farmers.

18:12Zach Lahn:How? Well, the real answer is because they're an unchecked monopoly and competition doesn't exist. There's tacit collusion. But here's how it actually works. They have what they call regional based pricing. But what it really is, is this. When they look at their pricing, they base it on the yield that you're going to create. So let's say you have more productive land, even though using the same amount of product, they're going to take more. You have less productive land, even though you use the same amount of product, they're going to take more.

18:48Zach Lahn:It's wrong. And I'll give credit to Brooke Rollins and Donald Trump and the administration. They're talking about bringing antitrust and investing in this with the Department of Justice. And one of the things I've pledged to do, that if I'm governor of Iowa, I'm going to lead the charge to bring antitrust suits against these companies that are exploiting our farmers because they're taking every dollar they possibly can and we're already on life support. I mean, most farms are operating at a loss right now. And when you talk to farmers about this, you do not, like, I can't emphasize this enough, you do not hear them talk about tariffs.

19:30Zach Lahn:They're not. Matter of fact, the price of soybeans this year with the tariffs was higher than it was last year before the tariffs. The change came that the cost of growing went up. I mean, the cost of the input products that they're using went up. And so I tell people all the time, the tariffs are not the issue. We have to get this unchecked monopoly in check and under control.

19:56Tucker Carlson:Obviously, inputs are essential to agriculture or to creating anything. one of them is diesel fuel not a lot of movement there but then you have the products that you just mentioned seeds and fertilizer taking out seeds let's just focus on fertilizer what are the products like?

20:19Zach Lahn:Well I mean it just depends on the most common product for fertilizers in hydrous ammonia it's used in the fall it's where a lot of nitrogen comes from But then you have other products that are, you know, products from earth, potassium, potash, those things. But you look at the trend of the pricing in these, you know, I think it was five years ago, in the past five years, nitrogen fertilizers went up 150 % and the price of corn's down 2%. So farmers are, they're really being, I would say, extorted in this process.

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22:41Tucker Carlson:Like everybody does and we kind of don't talk about it. And I'm like, hmm. I mean, is that, I'm not attacking Roundup specifically, but like, are we sure that these chemicals are all safe? Well, you know,

22:54Zach Lahn:well, Roundup is the most high, it's the most highly used herbicide in the history of the country, the history of the world. Because it's so effective. I mean, I've seen it. It's losing its effectiveness greatly. Is that true? Oh, yeah. It has to be, you'll have different mixtures now that'll go in because we're getting Roundup resistant, glyphosate resistant weeds. And now there's a high percentage of weeds have glyphosate resistance. So, you know, I think in some ways the life cycle of Roundup is kind of, it's going to be coming to an end on its own at some point.

23:26Tucker Carlson:Limited by nature.

23:26Zach Lahn:It's limited by nature and new products are coming out. But I will tell you this, when you talk about safety of products, well, let me back up and just talk about the companies. I mentioned the three big companies that are controlling the ag input market, Bayer, Corteva, and Syngenta. There's other ones, but Bayer's a German company. Corteva is an American company. Top shareholders are BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street of that company, but Syngenta is a wholly owned state enterprise of the Chinese government. Actually? 100%. So about somewhere on the end of 5 million acres in our state has chemicals and seed technology from a company that's a wholly owned company of the state of China, the country of China.

24:16Zach Lahn:So I mentioned that to say this. If you talk to farmers about some of these products, and like I said, glyphosate or Roundup is very ubiquitous to use. But if you talk to them about products even many of them won't use anymore, you'll get to products like Paraquat. Paraquat is actually, it was originally formulated by Syngenta. time.

24:43Tucker Carlson:Paraquat was used in anti-drug spraying in Latin America. It was very controversial for that.

24:50Zach Lahn:And it'll burn down plants in a matter of hours. But if you're exposed to paraquat, your chance of Parkinson's doubles. Matter of fact - Actually?

25:04Tucker Carlson:Oh, yes. Parkinson's? Parkinson's. There's people - That's something you don't want to get.

25:08Zach Lahn:And if you go on X and you type in and you just like look at Paraquil, you'll find stories of farmers who just will not use it anymore. They'll tell stories of, you know, spraying it and immediately getting like, or that day getting like uncontrollable bloody noses. It's a very, very harsh product. And it's still spray. I think the estimate, the best estimate is about 300 ,000 acres of land in Iowa use this product. This product is actually used in research settings in mice and rodents to induce Parkinson's. Are you being serious? I'm 100 % serious. And our EPA, and this is where the big issue lies, our EPA still allows it.

25:49So if we're talking about like, are these products harmful?

25:53Zach Lahn:Well, we can get into that more, but yes, we know.

25:57Tucker Carlson:If it doubles your chance of Parkinson's, you're going to have to explain the upside to continue selling that product. I mean, my instinct is like, well, you'd ban that today.

26:07Zach Lahn:And I think that's what people... Parkinson's? Come on now. That's true suffering. Yeah. It's a sentence you don't want. No. But when you can research this, your listeners can research this, it is used to induce Parkinson's in research settings.

26:26Zach Lahn:So when I talk about these products, I think what farmers want is to understand the truth. To know that their government is telling them the truth about these products. He was. But as with many other things, the corporate capture is so heavy. And so when you talk about glyphosate or glyphosate-based herbicides, Roundup is one of them. There's many glyphosate-based herbicides. The EPA has studied this for years. We know way more than we've ever known about this. And we also know that there are significant risks associated with its use. and so for example one of the most uh known cases is the uh case of the groundskeeper in california the first major lawsuit against monsanto and this was a a man who was his job was to work for the school districts and spray glyphosate and uh the hose broke on his on his packer in his little cart and it ended up showering him with this product.

27:31Zach Lahn:In a matter of months, he had lesions all over his body. And he sends emails to Monsanto asking, what should I do here? I mean, they're very like, I need help. Like not, I'm trying to blame you. He's like, what do I do to solve this problem? Well, if you fast forward in that trial, when they were in the discovery process, the judge agreed to make a large portion of the discovery confidential, meaning that it wasn't to be released. But the plaintiffs could challenge something or request the disclosure of it, and they could request a meet and confer to talk about him. And they requested it at one point, and the Monsanto attorneys, I think, literally said the words, go away.

28:20Zach Lahn:We're not going to disclose anything else. But then there's -

28:24Tucker Carlson:Do I get to do that next time I get sued? Go away.

28:26Zach Lahn:Go away. And so, but there's a stipulation there that said, if they didn't, if Monsanto didn't put in there another request to continue the confidentiality within 30 days, that the confidentiality was waived. They forgot to respond. And so now we have millions of pages of documents called the Monsanto papers, millions. And in those documents, it is an absolute masterclass in corporate capture. to the effect of, you know, that email that he sent to the company, they opened it, they read it, they forwarded it around, what should we do here? And they just didn't respond to him. I'm a man who's like hurting, who's...

29:06Tucker Carlson:Oh, the initial email. I'm covered in lesions from your product. What should I do?

29:10Zach Lahn:What should I do?

29:10Tucker Carlson:Yeah, basically he's asking for help.

29:12Zach Lahn:They read it, forwarded it around. What do we do with this? Nobody responded to him. And he sent two of those emails. I believe it was two. But in there's also things like, There was a time and place where another governmental body was going to be doing a study on the safety of glyphosate or Roundup in this case. And the EPA official that Monsanto was working with at the time got wind of this. And in the email with the Monsanto official, he's recounting his conversation with this EPA official. and in it he said this the official said to him on the phone he quotes it in the email if I can kill this I should get a medal and he did he prevented this other governmental body from doing their own independent research on the safety and effectiveness of glyphosate of Roundup this is real this is out there this is the regulator this is the regulator yes this is out there and other egregious examples.

30:20Zach Lahn:And I say this to say this, very often I'm talking to farmers who I love, who are my friends and my neighbors and my family. And I am one of them. We actively farm our own land. I work with young farmers to help them have an opportunity to be on land. We share crop, but I'm in there. I'm doing this. The most common comment I get from people is if it wasn't safe, they wouldn't let me use it. And I'm just here to say, that's a lie. just like they were captured during COVID and the medical establishment captured agencies, just like Bobby Kennedy is fighting right now and Donald Trump is fighting right now.

30:54Zach Lahn:These agencies have been captured for a long time and they've been lying to the consumers about the safety and efficacy of their products. And my whole goal here, I'm not here to sit and say we should ban X, Y, or Z. That's not what I'm talking about. I mean, I think there's certain things like Paraquat probably should not be used. I mean, not probably. If it doubles your risk of Parkinson's,

31:14Tucker Carlson:like hard no.

31:15Zach Lahn:Hard no. It shouldn't be used. But what I want is good science so farmers can say, do I want to use this product? And we can say, should this product be allowed? And also know, if I'm going to use this product, this is how it should be used. I mean, you have commercials. We know how glyphosate enters the bloodstream. We know that if it's on your skin, about 30 % enters your bloodstream. About 10 % of that is through cardiac output, about 10 % goes into your bone marrow. In bone marrow, glyphosate disrupts the replication of hematopoietic stem cells. They're differentiating from red to white. It's genotoxic.

31:57Zach Lahn:There's 50 studies that show this. Like we know how it happens. And yet there's commercials showing people using this product in flip-flops and shorts. Just saying like, be cavalier about it. We have many products we use. You go into my shop at the farm. There's many products on the shelf that, if they're used improperly, are bad for your health. And they warn about that on the label. These do not. Not in that same way. But in these papers were also examples like this. In 2000, there was a study called the Williams Study. It's the most cited study on the safety of glyphosate. The most cited. 99.9 % of all papers that cite the safety of glyphosate cite this study.

32:45Zach Lahn:Last month, that study was retracted because it was found that Monsanto executives wrote it. Wrote the study. But here's maybe even the worst part. We found that out in 2017 and it was retracted in 2025. The Monsanto executive actually said when he's sending this back, he better not have any revisions. that's what he said and so look you know i think oftentimes when you talk about this subject especially in my home state there's this desire to paint you as some liberal hippie that doesn't like farming like i'm the exact opposite of that i can tell i actually think that wokeism is a mental disorder that's trying to destroy our country of course and that we have got to fight to protect our culture, our people, and our heritage.

33:37Zach Lahn:But I also believe that our government has been captured in large part, and this is one of the most egregious examples.

33:44Tucker Carlson:It's really simple. Why do you love the country? One of the reasons you love it is because of its physical beauty, the landscape. I mean, America is great because it's got great people and because it's inherently great, just beautiful. And anyone who's despoiling nature is an enemy of the country. Super simple. Anyone building ugly buildings, spraying poisonous chemicals, those are our enemies. Those are not our friends. I don't think it's complicated at all. And that's not the liberal position. The liberals are the ones who are putting solar, bulldozing trees to build solar farms. Let's just be clear about what this is.

34:20Tucker Carlson:It's an aggressive, coordinated effort to defile God's creation by people who hate God. Not hard. Abortion is directly related to building strip malls. Sorry. They're both destructions of beauty and of God's creation. That's what I think. And I'm not a liberal. Our new partner, Dose, is a way better option than Big Pharma. That's not damning with faint praise. Anything's a better option than Big Pharma. There's a much better option. Some things are just out of people's hands, and cholesterol is often one of them. Everyone gets blamed for getting bad cholesterol because they eat crappy food. But the truth is, a lot of it's just genetic.

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36:00Zach Lahn:Exactly. And here's the thing. I think farmers agree with a lot of this. And of course they do. They're looking to say, like, look, number one, many of these guys would like to try different things. But when you're operating in razor thin margins, the idea of trying a new method of farming is not that appealing because like, what if it doesn't work and I actually can't, you know, keep the farm next year? and so these are our people that enjoy hunting, enjoy fishing, enjoy nature, want to be outdoors. Like this is our culture. That's what we like. And you're right. Like we are the environmentalists.

36:36Zach Lahn:Like obviously. We are the people that want to keep that

36:39Tucker Carlson:and keep God's creation. Bernie Sanders spends a lot of time outside. You think AOC can identify a tree species? I mean, these are people who are rejecting nature, rejecting beauty, rejecting anything that is natural and pure and trying to defile it. That's their program.

36:56Zach Lahn:Yeah. Well, and they've been completely captured by this religion of carbon.

37:02Tucker Carlson:But it's insane. And so carbon is not, I'm, by the way, admitting it right now. Carbon is not the problem. Carbon is the basis of life. The problem is man-made poisons. So how's the health? Okay, so I was still primarily in ag state, obviously. Yeah, we are, absolutely. Well, you have ag in all 99 counties, correct?

37:27Zach Lahn:Yes, ag is the largest industry. And kind of come to the last point of like that scorecard I mentioned to you, it's like, we have the fastest rate of new cancer of anywhere in the history of human civilization. What? Yes. Can you repeat that? we have the fastest rate of new cancer of anywhere in the history of human civilization.

37:49Tucker Carlson:Iowa?

37:49Zach Lahn:Iowa. Iowa. Matter of fact, if you live in one of the top counties for cancer in our state, they're all rural counties, your lifetime chance of getting cancer is one in two. And if you take Iowa as a whole and you compare it to, say, a state like Nevada, Nevada actually has fairly low cancer rates.

38:10Tucker Carlson:In any given year... Nevada has the highest smoking rate out of 50 states, but one of the lowest cancer rates. Iowa has very low smoking rates, very low smoking rates relative, certainly to Nevada, and has a really high cancer rate. I'm just not a scientist.

38:27Zach Lahn:I'm just noticing. I picked Nevada because I needed to pick a state that I was like looking at.

38:31Tucker Carlson:Nevada is the highest smoking rate in America. Look it up.

38:34Zach Lahn:So if you choose to live in Nevada over Iowa in any given year, your chance of getting cancer is 40 % less. Why have I never heard this before? 40%. If you take the top county for cancer in our state and you compare it, 70 % less.

38:52Tucker Carlson:Actually?

38:52Zach Lahn:Actually. And is the top county an ag county? Oh, yeah. Absolutely, yeah. It's not Des Moines. No, no, no, no. Actually, there's lower rates of cancer. I mean, per capita, of course, in those places.

39:03Tucker Carlson:For real? In your population centers, they have lower cancer?

39:08Zach Lahn:The top 10 counties are all rural counties.

39:10Tucker Carlson:So you can say that people who are spending the day outside getting physical exercise 12 months a year, when those people have higher cancer rates than someone working in a cube in Des Moines, then you start to think, hmm, maybe there are external factors we should be looking at.

39:26Zach Lahn:You know, as I brought this up, I find myself, this is so interesting, I find myself with a genuine care because, like I said, I'm not trying to tell farmers how they have to farm. I'm not trying to tell everybody they have to farm like me. We run a regenerative farm. Lots of it's organic. My goal is to help Iowans live longer, healthier lives, help farmers make more money, and help kids stay on farms for longer.

39:51Tucker Carlson:Sounds like it's the farmers who are being abused here. They're the victims here.

39:54Zach Lahn:A hundred percent.

39:55Tucker Carlson:They're the ones getting cancer.

39:56Zach Lahn:It's a hundred percent. And I'll talk to farmers about this or I'll talk to people that maybe are big in the ag community and they hear these talking points. They'll say like applicators of these products have lower cancer rates. and they're not wrong. That's actually an accurate statement, meaning farmers in general as a whole can have lower cancer rates. But when you hone in specifically on non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, leukemia, they have much higher cancer rates. The lifestyle of the job is going to give you more exercise. It's going to put you out. And so there are these things that lower it, but you hear these industry talking points about like, actually, there's lower in total.

40:36Zach Lahn:It's like, yeah, yeah, but your chance of getting these specific cancers linked to these products is much higher. And so, even with the rate of cancer in our state, you know, I'm in a governor's race right now. And even with the rate of cancer in our state, there's not one person talking about these things that I'm talking about right now with the likely causes of the cancer in our state.

41:01Tucker Carlson:We hear things like - Do you fear you'll be attacked as a liberal for bringing this up?

41:06Zach Lahn:I fear most that it's not a fear but most I think that the ag associations especially the ones that are not member driven you know that are constituted by actual farmers that take large checks from the companies that I'm mentioning right now I think the most likely scenario that everybody's warned me about is they're just going to come and try to destroy me I'm literally here because I could get into tears thinking about the people that I know that have gotten cancer. My own father got it. He was a crop consultant. So his job was to go into fields, check for pests, weeds. I used to do this with him as a child.

41:45Zach Lahn:I had a lot of fun doing it. He'd write a report and he'd bring it back to the farmers. And this was part of his job. He did it very well. And this is just the norm. It's what you did. And he'd recommend, this is what you should apply. He did that for over two decades. And he was diagnosed with one of these exact types of cancer. And that's what really, I think. How old was he? He was 60.

42:10Tucker Carlson:Ouch.

42:12Zach Lahn:Well, Tucker, this is maybe where. I'm sorry. Thank you. He's in remission now, thank the Lord. But this is where I think this hits home spiritually too, is that I think Iowans, and myself included, about three and a half months ago, I went back to my hometown that I grew up in in Iowa for the funeral of my best friend from high school for his father. He died of cancer. again in the 60s. And I tell people like, I don't know how many more of these funerals of men and women in their 60s I can go to when their parents lived to be 80. Like we're losing the wisdom of an entire generation of people.

42:50Zach Lahn:That's for sure.

42:52Tucker Carlson:And when life expectancy goes down, it's not progress. Oh, so I tell people,

42:57Zach Lahn:and this is the more the political way to say it. Look, we can have amazing, I'll say this, I often tell people, I'm not running for office because of policy. I'm running because of culture. And they say, well, what does that mean? And I'll say, look, ask a Republican in Dearborn, Michigan, how much he cares about his tax rate. Or does he care that the Muslim call to prayers on the loudspeaker five times a day and he doesn't know where he's waking up anymore and his culture's gone? We have to protect our culture. Our founders intended that to be the case. We have a huge amount of talk about founders, primarily when it comes to fiscal issues and things like this, we forget that, I think it was John Adams that said something along the lines of public virtue is dependent on private virtue.

43:46And public virtue is the only foundation of a

43:50Zach Lahn:republic. And so we hear these things, and this is a bit of a tangent here, Tucker, but But I've had to have a bit of a realization on this and to understand better what's going on. Because I grew up in an era where libertarian thinking was very pervasive. It was all over the place. I agreed with much of it. And there's still things I do agree with.

44:14Tucker Carlson:I was a fellow at the Cato Institute. So you don't need to apologize in my presence. No, I know what you mean. Well, wasn't that long ago that many Americans thought they were inherently safe from the kinds of disasters you hear about all the time in third world countries? A total power loss, for example, or people freezing to death in their own homes. That could never happen here. Obviously, it's America. People are recalculating, unfortunately, because they have no choice. The last few years have taught us that. Remember when the power grid in Texas failed in the dead of winter? Yeah, it happened, and it could happen again.

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46:03Zach Lahn:And I think what that amounted to is there's so many people have subscribed to what I call this religion of economic thinking. This idea of market fundamentalism that the market matters above all. And I say that's not what our ancestors believed. It's not what our founders believed. How has it worked? Exactly. I say about our ancestors, they didn't come here to become capitalists. They came here to own the ground under their feet, to build their churches and communities, and pass something on to the next generation. To their children, of course. But they didn't come here to do it at the detriment of their neighbors.

46:37They actually came here to do it helping their neighbors.

46:40Tucker Carlson:Well, you obviously are a communist.

46:43Zach Lahn:I have to tell you, the amount of arguments that I hear from this generation that has subscribed to this religion of economic thinking, which by the way, our founders did not support. They were in favor of tariffs. The states all had laws, primarily all of them had laws to protect moral virtue. This was a part of what they did. They knew it. And they knew because the state has a role in that. And we are a Christian nation with a Christian form of government. Our constitution could not have been created by any other religion. You're not endowed by a creator. You don't have inalienable rights. In Christianity, you do.

47:21Zach Lahn:The divinity of the individual is real. We're made in the image of God. And so I have these arguments with people where I'm saying, look, 25 % of our lands owned by all state investors, I'd like to raise their property taxes. I'd like to disincentivize this thing that's been happening in our state and create a new category of tax for investment land for people that are coming in and prospecting. And I'm just, this is socialism. This is communism. I'm just saying. Who says that? It's, this is what gets me.

47:55Tucker Carlson:Self-defense is immoral now.

47:57Zach Lahn:Yeah, right. That's basically what they're saying.

47:59Tucker Carlson:Protecting your - You're not allowed to defend yourself.

48:01Zach Lahn:Yeah, I would just say this. Iowa is not an economic zone for the world or for the country. It's not.

48:08Tucker Carlson:You're upsetting me. Yes, I agree. And so, but when I say this,

48:13Zach Lahn:It's oftentimes people that were, you know, that were oftentimes it's people that were really affected by the economic thinking that came out of the Chicago School of Economics. And when I trace much of this back, I look at what happened in the 1980s. I think Ronald Reagan did a lot of great things. But there's also this market fundamentalism that really took over. and then you look at what's been the repercussions of that this idea that unrestrained capitalism is

48:45Tucker Carlson:what we worship or that it even is capitalism that even is capitalism because oftentimes it's

48:50Zach Lahn:it's corporatism of course just always exactly or that free trade is the ideal it's like even the fathers of modern economics adam smith even david ricardo who is a person that basically developed the idea of comparative advantage. It's a big thing. Yes, free trade is good if you protect your national interest first. Like for instance, the silicon microchip was invented by a man from Iowa, Robert Noyce, he's with Intel. And then you look at what's happened now in our country from a product that was invented in our country. We produced 10 % of them and basically all of the high-tech versions of this, we can't produce, we don't have the technology.

49:38Zach Lahn:So the ones that would be a military application are coming from somewhere else. So there's this idea that the market matters overall. I'm saying, no, that's not, we don't worship the market.

49:54Zach Lahn:The most egregious example of this, I think, is when you look at what happened through free trade in the Rust Belt and throughout the Midwest, where you had people that were told that their jobs were being shipped overseas, but they'd be replaced by high-tech jobs that then they'd be trained by, which, by the way, is a lie. It didn't happen. Matter of fact, the biggest benefits that came from that were for the leaders of large companies that chose to do what Adam Smith said not to do, which was free trade was about one country doing something really well, another country doing another thing really well in the exchange.

50:39Zach Lahn:A comparative advantage in the market isn't exploitative labor conditions of a communist government. That's not included in the comparative advantages.

50:49Tucker Carlson:It's not. Adam Smith didn't foresee that.

50:51Zach Lahn:No. And so when capital's mobile and you can move all of these factories to one place to get cheap labor, everything's going there. And then so who got rich off that? Well, large companies got rich. And then pharmaceutical companies got rich that preyed off purposeless white males who lost their work. Of course. In large part. The Sacklers. And it creates... Still billionaires, never went to jail. And as I say this, I get goosebumps ones because it's like this is just wrong oh yeah i mean the hundreds of thousands of deaths that have come from this when you take work in purpose away from people and you sell them a lie that then it's going to be replaced by these high-tech jobs or high-tech training for jobs and it doesn't happen and then you have these practices where people you know like here's a new customer we and get them addicted.

51:49Zach Lahn:There's a stat I read. It's almost like it was on purpose. You know, in 2016, the World Economic Forum had that article that was published still online. I don't know why they sold it on today. But it talked about this idea that in the future, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy. I tell people like, that wasn't a joke. It wasn't a threat. It was a plan. Oh, of course. And it's happening. Oh, I know. And so, I think many people in our country just feel as if there's this large plan or effort that's being executed that we're not privy to. No. But we have these psyops that happen that come up and we're fed them through news or something like that to get on board with it.

52:45Zach Lahn:I think what we just talked about is probably a large part of that. This idea that we're going to take away meaningful manual labor with your hands, which by the way, it's like maybe second to farming. That type of work is really gratifying because you're creating a product for another.

53:00Tucker Carlson:I do it in my spare time. Like I can't wait to get off work and do it. Not because I'm great at it or something, but because it's so rewarding. It's so refreshing. It feeds something. It feeds a real hunger, I think, in all men. And so, yes, no, it's like my primary form of relaxation. I just love it. And I think every man feels that way.

53:20Zach Lahn:I agree. Man, you look at some of these channels on social media that have taken off. Oh, yeah. It's so much of this. And they're like addicting. It's like, I love watching. Gosh, even the bushcraft videos of people making these houses. They're amazing.

53:36Tucker Carlson:Or how about Pakistani metalworking videos? You ever watch those? That's a whole genre. Those guys are amazing. I've never really liked Pakistan, spent time in Pakistan. You watch those videos, you're like, I'm pretty pro-Pakistan. Just the ingenuity, the craftsmanship, which is not high, by the way, but it's just like, these are men making things out of raw materials. And it's just a thrill to watch that. Yeah, and they're proud of what they create.

54:00Zach Lahn:A hundred percent, and they ought to be. They should. And they have my respect. Yeah, and me as well. And I would just say that I look at this from the standpoint of you'll own nothing. and I look at this large narrative that's happening in our country. I mean, you know this, but even in Iowa, Blackstone is buying single-family homes. There's another company in Council Bluffs that's doing as well, multi-billion dollar real estate investment trust. It's buying up single-family homes. In Council Bluffs? Council Bluffs. That's a tough town.

54:28Tucker Carlson:Yeah. Went across the river from Omaha.

54:31Zach Lahn:Yeah, it wouldn't be your first choice. I mean, that's how ubiquitous this is, right? Council Bluffs. Council Bluffs, yeah. and then you look at our farmlands being bought by people that don't live here and even when you get back into agriculture and you look at you know iowa is a top pork producing state in the country yes what most people don't know is i think somewhere above 75 percent of the pork that's raised in in iowa the farmers don't own the pigs of course not they're on contract from one of the big four agriculture conglomerates Cargill, Tyson, JBS, and National. So we're having this pride in our work, this pride in our land, the health of our people.

55:18Zach Lahn:We're having these major issues come up.

55:20Tucker Carlson:Well, Sue, can I just ask you, I mean, that does, so you will own nothing and be happy is a very famous phrase. And thank you for reminding us that it was 10 years ago that it first emerged and that it was real. It was not a meme at that point. It was like a statement of intent. But I think that has obscured the even darker reality, which is not only will you not own anything, you won't create anything.

55:43Zach Lahn:Yeah.

55:43Tucker Carlson:I personally, just speaking for myself as a middle-aged man, I would rather at this stage create than own. I like both. But the joy, the thing that proves that you are made in God's image is your ability to create because God is the creator.

55:58Zach Lahn:Yeah.

55:59Tucker Carlson:And when you create something, it's the whole purpose of being here, whether it's children or harmony or a pair of reading glasses. Creation, making something out of nothing is the main joy in life. And when you take that away, no wonder people are on fentanyl. Yeah. Right?

56:20Zach Lahn:Well, also, I think maybe missing like the biggest one of those is speech. Well, exactly. Of this right here, of what you're creating.

56:27Tucker Carlson:I like to believe that's a form of creation.

56:28Zach Lahn:It is. That's it. It's like, I spent my life talking. Speech is that. And that is that. This is where I believe that we get bogged down in the policy and the politics of this whole thing. And we forget about the grander story of who we are as a people that we're endowed by our creator, that we're here for a big purpose. You know, I spent a number of years building schools. And one of the things we'd say is that we believe every young person is a hero on their journey to find a calling and change the world. Like that was the inspirational line that we would say basically every day. Like that's who we are.

57:12Zach Lahn:That's why we're here. And a lot of this creation is being taken away, as you mentioned. And AI is not the least of which. I tell my kids all the time, look, use AI for research, never let it write for you. Writing is how you organize your thoughts. It's how you can think something through to separate the wheat from the chaff, to understand how to think critically, to test your ideas, and then get in debate and things like that. You can't have a machine do that. This uniquely human thing is for us to come up with these ideas based on our unique life experiences.

57:53Tucker Carlson:It's stealing joy. It's like saying, eat a steak for me, have sex for me, you know, wake up at dawn and watch the sunrise for me. No, I'll reserve those to myself because those are the greatest pleasures in life and creating something is number one on that list of joy. It's like, why would you ever outsource that to a machine?

58:11Zach Lahn:I don't understand that. Did you see the commercial for the product that basically records like your grandmother. You'll record them when they're alive. And then after they pass away, it creates basically an avatar of them.

58:28Tucker Carlson:But the actual - So you can steal my memories and replace them with the creation of a machine? Yeah, I don't think so.

58:33Zach Lahn:This is real though. It's actually, this I say, it's like for the longest time, we accepted technology. And look, farming is a big, in this too, it's like, look, it reduced the burden of labor. And there's a certain point to that that's probably good. meaning like hand plowing a field is a really difficult task. Using a tractor, okay, that's probably okay, right? It is okay, obviously I'm joking. But then when you start to see what it's being used for now to replace human beings, meaning you can continue to have conversations with this grandmother long after she's passed away and she'll give you her unique thoughts.

59:10Zach Lahn:Well, that's completely stripping away the divinity of humanity. this idea that we're creating God's image, that we each have something unique to share, and that humanity is something to be protected and is very special in the history of the universe. It's very special. And so, like, let me just say this. A lot of my campaign comes down to this question. I was reading an essay by Wendell Berry.

59:36Tucker Carlson:You know, it's funny. As you were talking, I was just thinking of Wendell Berry, and I was going to say, apropos of nothing, I love Wendell Berry.

59:44Zach Lahn:I thought maybe he's never heard of Wendell Berry.

59:46Tucker Carlson:I love that you read Wendell Berry.

59:48Zach Lahn:I love Wendell Berry.

59:49Tucker Carlson:As a matter of fact, his essay on 9-11 was so radical. I think it got taken off the internet, but it was like so good.

59:55Zach Lahn:You know, I maybe shouldn't say this on here, but I drive a Tesla and it has an autopilot feature. And there's a period of time when I'd be driving with my kids and somewhere and I might like, pull out the Wendell Berry poem book and give them.

1:00:11Tucker Carlson:And so on the way to school - I was talking to my sister-in-law yesterday about Wendell Berry poems, literally yesterday.

1:00:16Zach Lahn:I would actually have the kids take turns in the car reading a poem. No way. Because look, understanding these ideas, I don't know if there's other than faith and they're tied in together, inextricably woven together are the ideas that Wendell Berry puts forward in the ideas of our faith. You can't separate them because it's about creation. Yes. It's about protecting that and understanding that we were told to tend the garden. We're told to subdue, but not destroy, of course. And so I would have the kids read this because it's like, I want you guys to know, like, look, if I'm gone tomorrow and you knew two things about me, that I loved my Savior and I loved the creation, I'd be very happy.

1:01:00Zach Lahn:And I hope that, you know, if that's the only two things you remember about me and you just had to keep reflecting on those two things, great. You're making me emotional again. Sorry. But in this essay, it was actually in the Atlantic.

1:01:12Tucker Carlson:If you're listening to Wendell Berry poems in the car with your kids, tell me where the fundraiser is because I'm going. Because we need more of this in America.

1:01:23Zach Lahn:So he had this poem, this essay he wrote in the Atlantic, I think it was 1991. And some quote I read turned me on to that. And I was like, I wonder what this is. So I went and read the whole thing. And in it, he talked about this idea. And I think this summarizes so much what I'm talking about. When I say our farmland's being owned by people that don't live here, our jobs are being shipped to other countries, our factories are being shipped to other countries. We have unchecked monopolies that are exploiting our farmers. We have the highest cancer rate, but we're not talking about it. Wendell Berry said that a foundational question that the Amish ask before they make any big decision is what will this change do to our community?

1:02:09Tucker Carlson:Yes.

1:02:09Zach Lahn:And I think I don't know anyone who would deny that our politicians and our leaders have not been asking that question for a very long time.

1:02:18Tucker Carlson:That is absolutely right. And that is absolutely right. And we don't ask ourselves enough, how will this change us and our relationships and our understanding of God in the world. And I think that of labor saving devices, I find myself, I'm the product of, you know, America and at its peak and there's not enough labor actually. And I find myself trying to eliminate labor saving devices from my life merely so I will have the experience of labor. Yeah. We hand grind our coffee. Don't have to do that. Why do we do that? I always say to my befuddled and grumpy children, like, because we're not depending on electricity for everything.

1:02:54Tucker Carlson:You can grind your own coffee. It's okay. And I just feel like that, and obviously I'm insane. So that informs a lot of my decisions. It's my lunacy, but it also speaks to like a need in all people to be involved in the production of something.

1:03:10Zach Lahn:Yeah.

1:03:11Tucker Carlson:Right? Oh, absolutely. Like DoorDash is, I'm not against DoorDash, but like, not that I've used it, but like, I don't know. You gain something, but you also lose something. That's all I'm saying.

1:03:21Zach Lahn:Yeah, they're... When you feel the feeling of accomplishment, it's a liberating feeling. Yes. It's a feeling that brings pride. And I would say this, it's a feeling that brings pride that also if you understand your own history of your family and your story, that you can connect it to what's happened generation and generation and generation before. I think so much of where we've went wrong is that, you know, I was at a... Gosh, I was at a... a funeral for a woman that I loved dearly. Her name was Becky Elder, and she was an agrarian from Kansas and lived in Kansas for a while. She was somebody who started schools.

1:04:01Zach Lahn:She was an amazing woman. I mean, this could get me emotional, but I was at her funeral about a week ago, and she was, I would call it, daughter of the prairie, like loved creation, tended it, had their own farms, all these things. And her son was reading something about her. And he said, one of the most common sins is forgetting. Forgetting where we come from. Forgetting our heritage. Forgetting that these places really matter. And so like when I'm in my community and I'm seeing the people I'm surrounded with, in large part, you know, it's like many of these places feel forgotten, especially by our politicians who didn't ask these questions of what will these changes do to our community.

1:05:01Zach Lahn:I have a defensive mechanism that comes up in me to say like, I'm going to fight for you. I'm going to do it. And I don't know what that is. I don't know where that came from, but I would just say that God put something on me to say, look, maybe I win this governor's race, maybe I don't. My whole life is going to be focused on these issues because they're issues of caring for your neighbor. And it's the one of the two commands I've been given by Jesus. And so, you know, that's why we work with, you know, we could do farming a different way and I could make more money on that. I have a family that I love that I want to like work with specifically because it's additive to the whole equation.

1:05:47Tucker Carlson:Yes.

1:05:48Zach Lahn:You know, when my great-grandparents were living on the farm, I found all these documents, and I hear stories about them from the community. You know, what's so interesting is like, we talk about we don't know who owns our land. You know, before, when I was growing up, and I'd talk about these pieces of land, we've bought some of these pieces because the people have passed on, and oftentimes they'll want to sell to us because they know where my heart is and they don't want it to go into an auction and they don't want it going to somebody from out of state or out of the country. We don't know.

1:06:22Zach Lahn:We call the pieces of land by the last name of the people that lived there forever.

1:06:26Tucker Carlson:Of course, always. We do the same.

1:06:27Zach Lahn:That's what we do.

1:06:28Tucker Carlson:That's exactly right.

1:06:29Zach Lahn:And it's honoring. Like I've told my wife, I plan to put up plaques or signs saying like, this is this farm. This is the history of this farm.

1:06:36Tucker Carlson:That's exactly what we do. That's exactly right. And that's exactly the way to do it.

1:06:40Zach Lahn:And so when I was talking early on about this idea of something lost. I remember hearing some of these stories and one of the stories I really loved was that my great-grandmother, my great-grandpa, when they were on this farm, these Iowa communities used to be dotted with these small farmsteads all over. Many of them have just been bulldozed and farmed over because people are growing and growing and growing farm. Consolidation's happening everywhere. Of course. And with the consolidation, every time a farm's consolidated, I say to people, life goes out of our community. Like we have to get our young people back on these farms.

1:07:15Zach Lahn:One of my biggest, biggest efforts I'm going to be undertaking is to do that. They were so tight knit in these communities that people would tell me, you know, we used to come over to your house, this house. Coffee was on until 10 p.m. at night. And your great-grandma and your great-grandpa were actually the counselors of our neighborhood. So they had these groups. And so if husband and wife were having an issue, they'd come over and they'd sit and talk this through. If they're having issues with kids, they'd sit and talk these things through. And they cared for each other. And they're involved in each other's lives.

1:07:50Zach Lahn:And we're experiencing likely the exact opposite of that trend happening. And it's having a profound effect on our culture where we're becoming insular and othering. Just because you have a bumper sticker that somebody doesn't like that they're not to be talked to. which is not at all like what defined us back then.

1:08:15Tucker Carlson:No.

1:08:16Zach Lahn:Not at all.

1:08:16Tucker Carlson:And we're not allowed to behave like that anyway.

1:08:19Zach Lahn:My dream for the state of Iowa is to see a long-term rich agrarian society, like a long-term rich agriculture heritage be restored. That's my dream. And that's what I'm fighting for.

1:08:33Tucker Carlson:Boy, that's got to be one of the toughest battles you could fight.

1:08:37Zach Lahn:But it's worth it. It's foundational, not just to the state, but to us as a people. I think it's something in our soul that working with our hands, in the dirt, with animals, with family, multiple generations. There's a book by a guy named Alan Carlson, I think it was. It's called The Natural Family and Where It Belongs. And I had another basically radicalizing moment for me was reading this and realizing this man said so many things that I didn't know how to say. Just that setup of farmstead and neighboring farmstead that care for each other and that did a lot of life together was the most in-tuned and connected, I think spiritually, we could probably say we have been as a society or a community.

1:09:25Zach Lahn:And I would like to see that return.

1:09:29Tucker Carlson:what i don't quite we met at an event a couple of months ago a very crowded event and had like a three-minute i'd never heard of you we had a three-minute conversation i was like whoa i want to talk to that guy um so i should just confirm to anyone who's still watching this uh an hour in that uh you talk this way in private too which i love but what if people in like a official organized Iowa politics think when you say stuff like this? You know,

1:10:01Zach Lahn:in longer form of discussions, I find that it's very, very good. But I think that politics has been so overtaken with this bumper sticker ideology. Yes. Which is like, I think somebody once said a bumper sticker is a substitute for thought or something like that. For sure. And also, So, and also I just think I'm not the typical person that would run for office.

1:10:29Tucker Carlson:Like, I really... That's putting it mildly.

1:10:33Zach Lahn:I really like, I've really worked hard to, you know, be on our farm, to farm it, to have my kids understand that, to work in education and these types of things. I really worked hard to do that. This was not something that I had just like saying, you know what, timings, like I've been waiting for this forever, we're doing this. it was more that I thought, you know, there's no term limits on the governor of Iowa. The longest serving governor in the history of America is Iowa's former governor, Terry Branson. So in my head and in my heart, as I was talking to my wife about this, it's like the next person who gets elected governor could be governor until I die.

1:11:11Tucker Carlson:Oh, yeah. Well, look at your senior senator. Emphasis on the senior. I like him. I'm not attacking him. But he's served for a couple hundred years, I think. from that.

1:11:20Zach Lahn:It's like that quote when Ronald Reagan said, I knew Abraham Lincoln and you're no Abraham Lincoln. I love that.

1:11:31Zach Lahn:Politics is not the place for long form, deep and spiritual discussion. And I wish it was. Because I think if it was, you'd require people running for office to connect with you at a deeper level, to actually understand what you're going through. And to know that they care about those issues. Because, you know, I don't care how low our taxes are. If I say this, if our kids are leaving and our people are dying from cancer, we are not in what I'd call successful territory. That's exactly right.

1:12:08Tucker Carlson:And the beauty of economics is it's supposedly a species of science, which means it can be tested. So if you have an economic system in progress longitudinally over a period of time, then you can assess with the highest degree of accuracy whether it worked or not, right? Because you look at the outcomes. And by that measure, socialism, communism is like the worst possible failure. Our current system is not anything like that, but it's not a win. It's a failure because look around. So like what we're doing isn't working. I don't care what they tell you at some think tank or what should happen. And I've lived long enough to see what actually happened.

1:12:46Tucker Carlson:And no.

1:12:47Zach Lahn:Yeah.

1:12:48Tucker Carlson:Doesn't work.

1:12:50Zach Lahn:And look at some of these new ideas that are coming out, which, by the way, it's like the fact that these have to be stated is kind of crazy. And then the fact that we get pushback on it. Like I'm somebody who firmly believes that the priorities of my government and my economy should be solely focused on making life better for the people that live in my state and my country. like not racist

1:13:17Zach Lahn:not not for big business not for foreign countries like and i think so many people just thought that was the case and then like meaning like people that are not really paying attention but it's like the politicians are all telling me like we're gonna work on this low tax we're gonna work on this thing it's like but hold on what just a day ago 81 republicans voted to keep$315 million of spending for the National Endowment for Democracy? What?

1:13:48Tucker Carlson:Yeah, not on your side.

1:13:50Zach Lahn:Right? And it's like after everything that Elon Musk went through, after all of what these people did, all of what they took in the news, all of the conflicts and relationships that broke down into this, that one thing that we know is a front organization in large part is now getting hundreds of millions of dollars from our government and Republicans are voting yes on it? Of course they are. It's like, we're not learning anything. It's like the idea.

1:14:18Tucker Carlson:Why am I laughing?

1:14:19Zach Lahn:Because I don't know what else to do. How could you ever deny the existence of the Uniparty at this point? Oh, I know.

1:14:25Tucker Carlson:Well, you have a very prominent Republican senator and presidential candidate working with the ADL to suppress the speech of Americans. So it's like, hmm, maybe the current system isn't what they tell. But people know that it's fake. And I guess the good news is we still have enough elbow room, enough freedom in the United States that, you know, reform is possible. If enough people are like, no, come on now. You have to serve our interests sort of or at least acknowledge them.

1:14:54Zach Lahn:Yeah, you would hope so. I think like this vote specifically is quite the conundrum to that point, right? Like this all just happened.

1:15:03Tucker Carlson:Well, I could name eight other things that have happened in the last month, and you're like, this is so unbelievable. It's so outrageous. It can't continue. The internal contradictions have reached the point of breaking, and like, oh, we're getting something new.

1:15:15Zach Lahn:And then it's just like, oh, on to the next. Yeah, you're right. It'll be gone in a week. In a week?

1:15:21Tucker Carlson:It's gone now.

1:15:22Zach Lahn:Yeah, exactly. But to that point, I think this is why this idea of running for governor is so appealing. It's like, maybe I'm wrong for saying this, but I've largely written off Washington, D.C. Oh, I think that's fair. And it's like, if the people that we've put in power, now granted, I will say there's some huge, huge shining stars. I think what Robert F. Kennedy is doing, unbelievable. The repercussions of this for positive health benefits of Americans will reverberate for generations if it can stay in place. because he's going to help an entire generation of people become far more healthy, live better lives, meet their great grandkids, potentially.

1:16:09Zach Lahn:Like, that's amazing. And have clearer heads and purer spirits.

1:16:14Tucker Carlson:Like, just start with, like, just the government should not officially endorse eating 1 ,000 pounds of sugar a year. Just that right there. Yeah. Flipping over the nutrition tables into something that more closely resembles reality. that's a huge step reducing the vax schedule from like you know a million vaccines for the newborn to you know a smaller number you got to call that a win that's a win and it's also something that i

1:16:40Zach Lahn:think we believe why are we even having to have this fight like but you know like somebody asked me the other day what do you think the most pressing issue facing america is and i like taking out the spiritual because spirituality is intertwined but taking that out i said I think it's that our government is run by unelected people and we don't know who they are. Yeah.

1:17:04Tucker Carlson:Without our best interest at heart at all.

1:17:06Zach Lahn:And so this idea of America first, of Iowa first, it's like to many of us, this is just common sense. It's like this is what the country was set up for.

1:17:15Tucker Carlson:What's the other form of government that's legitimate? I can't think of one. If this is a democratic republic and the government is acting in an interest that's not our interest, how is that legitimate? How is that not grounds for, you know, anyway. Right. There's no other legitimate form of government but America first or Iowa first. Like, that's the only option.

1:17:38Zach Lahn:And how we got away from that is unbelievable. I was talking to my dad about some of these things the other day, and some things you can think and know, but not exactly know how to describe or put into words. And I get that feeling when I think about the shift that our country clearly went through after the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

1:17:58Tucker Carlson:Well, that's it right there.

1:17:59Zach Lahn:It seemed as if something spiritual happened at that point within our country, and it has to do with the complete disregard for truth, honesty, or like the American public deserving to know what's happening. And then, you know, I read a tweet one day, I don't know who said it, maybe it's Russell Brand or somebody that said something along the lines of like the future success of our country and the Kennedys is like intertwined in some way. That's true. True. And so it is true.

1:18:30Tucker Carlson:I never used to believe that. And I would hear these baby boomers say that was the day everything changed. And they were silly. They were not serious people, but they could feel something that was true. And that was clearly true, that a lot did change. Everything changed when he was assassinated in a way that I did not appreciate until he was much older. But they were right. They were right in saying that. And the fact that 63 years later, you know, CIA still will not, this is a fact, will not divulge all the information that it has on his murder, despite a bunch of laws from Congress, despite an executive order from the president of the United States a year ago.

1:19:08Tucker Carlson:they're still hiding it clearly there were you know probably a lot of people involved probably a foreign country clearly involved our own government clearly involved so like and they're still lying about it it's wild but uh if the truth sets you free then lives and sleep the lies enslave you yeah the obverse is true so i think we are enslaved in some sense by these lies.

1:19:34Zach Lahn:You know, I think where I see this most is in the newest generation of people that are coming up, you know, coming of age, so to speak. And there's some very loud voices out there that they're all flocking to, one in particular that you've interviewed. And people ask me all the time, like, why do I think that is? And I just say, guys, look at the lies. Exactly. Look at what's happened. Look at the lack of justice, the lack of accountability. Like, we don't, where's Fauci? Like, what about the Hunter Biden laptop? When are these people going to be arrested?

1:20:11Tucker Carlson:I said this about Trump 10 years ago when I lived in Washington. I'm a product of Washington, obviously. And I wrote a piece. Basically, Trump is popular because you failed. And it wasn't an endorsement of everything Trump said, though. I like Trump and voted for him. But it wasn't, it's not about Trump. Like, Trump wouldn't have existed if the system was working. And the same is true of the person you're referring to, whose name shall not be named.

1:20:36Zach Lahn:But no, no, but it's true.

1:20:38Tucker Carlson:It's like we argue about is he good or bad? Is he, you know, whatever. But the argument's not really about him. It's about the system that allowed someone like that to become popular. It's like, why do you think people are watching that? Because you failed. You betrayed your own voters. Yes. Yes, that is right.

1:20:56Zach Lahn:Yes. And look, one of the biggest issues that's come up is about immigration. Yeah. It's all over. And I think for a long time, we have been criticized, ostracized for noticing what's happening and calling it out to say like, what's happening? And there's this idea of replacement migration, this replacement theory. and you like i don't ever talk about this but it's like people talk about it and they're immediately just hammered down well in 2000 the un put out a document called replacement migration of course 144 pages multiple languages but i read this and it's like it's lining out exactly what's happening and it's saying look european nations are going to be losing population you know america's be losing population what's the answer well traditionally throughout history the answer is to promote having more children.

1:21:55Zach Lahn:Make it easier for people who have kids. Yes, make life more affordable. Right. Bring home the money that's being spent overseas and use, I mean, imagine, you just talked about Iraq and Afghanistan. Imagine what our country would be if we didn't spend$10 trillion on that.

1:22:11Tucker Carlson:Yeah.

1:22:12Zach Lahn:Imagine what we could have done for our children and our communities. So when you look at this and you're called this, I'm not called that because I don't ever talk about this, but people are called conspiracy theorists for bringing up this idea of replacement migration. They literally wrote a white paper on it. Of course. And they described what it was going to do. And then you look at these people that are feeling like, especially young white males, like they're being taken out of society. They're being told they don't matter. Matter of fact, they have this original sin of being who they are.

1:22:44Zach Lahn:It's unbelievable. And then you, in the -

1:22:47Tucker Carlson:Sounds like a dangerous conspiracy theorist. You ever look at the census numbers? Oh, yeah. Right. So again, we can just bring science to bear on this. Is the native population being replaced?

1:22:55Zach Lahn:I don't know. Let's check the census. Answer, yes.

1:22:58Tucker Carlson:How about we do it by zip code? I'm 56, so let's go back to 1970, census of 1970. Just spend an afternoon reading that. So anyone who tells you you're a bigot or you're engaging in conspiracy theorizing is lying and probably lying in order to... hurt you.

1:23:21Zach Lahn:And Tucker, why? It's like, why are we not allowed to have and appreciate and love our culture? And why are we also not allowed to let people in that want to be a part of that culture? That's the whole idea. People ask me how to pronounce my last name and it's L-A-H-N, but it's pronounced Lane. Well, why is that? Well, my great, great grandpa, when he came over, he wanted to keep the German spelling, but he wanted to be a pronounced American and they took on the American customs and they became American. Yeah. That's what it was. And the idea that we're saying that this is -

1:23:54Tucker Carlson:How did the family pronounce it in Germany?

1:23:58Zach Lahn:I was told it was pronounced learn. Learn. That's right. And that's what I was told someday, as you could probably imagine, I'm going to go over there and dig as deep as I can in all this stuff because it's, you know, some people get the bug for learning this about their family. I am that human. Like, I love this. Like, I love learning about my history and heritage. and you know what like 150 years in America is a thing to be very proud of yes I agree but also like they likely did not want to leave where they were at they didn't want to go three weeks on a boat in the stowage you know

1:24:31Tucker Carlson:from northern Germany

1:24:32Zach Lahn:northern Germany and on my mom's side actually the family's been here since the revolution actually my great ancestor direct great ancestor died in the revolutionary war me too and so I These voices of people who understand the culture that our ancestors created, and it's something to be so proud of, it's so inclusive, it reduces suffering, it is welcoming to people. But the idea that you can come in and try to put something else over top of that. And Charlie Kirk said this beautifully. He said something, I'm going to butcher his words, and I'm sorry for that. I first met him in 2011, I think.

1:25:13Zach Lahn:We were speaking at the same event. I said something along the lines of the reason we're in a constitutional crisis is because we have a Christian form of government, but we have elected people that are not following that custom and religion. They hate Christianity. And so you're going to have a constitutional crisis. You're going to have fraud all over the place. You're going to, your institutions will break down.

1:25:38Tucker Carlson:Because the system was a bespoke system. It was created for the people who lived under it. And you've got different people. So you're going to get a different system.

1:25:46Zach Lahn:Yeah, it was created.

1:25:48Tucker Carlson:Not a value judgment. It's just an observation. Yeah, it was created. Exactly. Amazing, amazing conversation. I'm intentionally not going to ask you about the politics of it. You're going to have plenty of time to talk about that. But I think this gives, you know, anyone who has, again, watched to this point is either, you know, like, oh my gosh, I'm sending this man money or stop him. but I am interested like when really quick last question what is the process from here on out

1:26:22Zach Lahn:so our primary elections June 2nd okay and then if we win the primary then the elections in November how many people in the primary there's five people in the primary right now and so I believe we have a really really good shot at this and I believe our message the time for the message that we're saying is now and that But there's been a, I think there's been a void that's been there. And people are wanting politicians and people running for office, because I've never ran for office. I'm not a politician. They're wanting people that will speak truth to them and that will talk about the big issues, even if the donors and the special interests say, I've told them, I don't want your money.

1:27:07Zach Lahn:I'm not looking for your money. I'm actually here to stop a lot of the practices that you're putting in place. And so I've said I'm my own biggest donor to this campaign. I will not be bought. It won't happen.

1:27:20Tucker Carlson:Oh, boy, they're going to try and stop you. It's not radicalism that scares them. It's quiet, sincere determination, I would say. So Godspeed. Thank you. Thank you.

1:27:38Thank you.