‘The Ethical Hacker’ Exposes Satanic Child Predators Lurking Online & How He Hunts Them

24:12Let's say I report a problem with the electric and they turn the power off on a Friday night and you don't get your power back till Monday. That could be a problem in some cold areas or some hot areas. Yeah, for sure. I mean, there's real life consequences to a social security number, which is such a ridiculous way to identify somebody because they're incremental. And I think it was 2011 is when the prefix of them, like the first three digits started becoming randomized. Like the first, I think it was the three digits meant like the hospital and the next two was the timeframe, something like that.

24:45After 2011, it was changed to completely random. But, you know, social security numbers are not, in my opinion, a good way to keep yourself private. Well, because they are not, and this is what I sort of half-assed you a minute ago, because the system is so obviously flawed and the internet itself is not secure because it was designed to be open, it'll never be secure. There will always be data breaches, always. And because everything takes place on the internet, specifically financial transactions, don't we have to go to biometrics? I think we need to, yeah. And it is absolutely a possibility now.

25:22Fingerprints have been around for a long time for fingerprint locks. And now that consumer, you can go to Home Depot and buy a fingerprint lock for your home. But we have biometrics for retina scanning. I've seen it at the airport before with Clear. I think Clear might have changed from retina scanning to just facial recognition. But we have the ability to do all of these different biometrics that are pretty solid ways to authenticate yourself. The issue, which we could get more into this later, but there's platforms out there that are trying to use biometrics like facial scanning to determine age to allow someone on a platform.

25:57It's failing miserably. Why? Because it's just the technology is doing a bad job at identifying the person's age. Like, for example, if I scan my face, it might say, you know, I'm 32 years old, but it could tell me that I'm 50. It could tell me that I'm 18. It could tell me that I'm 16. it just depends on whatever that platform decides. And in my experience - It depends on the kind of life you've lived. Yeah, that's exactly - Honestly, Ryan. Yeah, and I have lived a crazy life. So who knows what the, I don't know. This is in particular, within the last couple of weeks with Roblox. So Roblox implemented this as a safety measure after a guy named Schlepp, his name, he goes by, and myself went on some podcasts, talked about the dangers of that platform and showed some real examples, which I'll show you some stuff in a little bit.

26:46But their way to combat this issue was, at least what it seems, is using kids. They have to scan their face and then they get grouped into lobbies with other kids their age that they determined from a third-party company that we don't know what they're doing with the biometric data of the children's faces. And a lot of the time they're getting it wrong. And to make matters worse, you can go on eBay and buy accounts for certain age ranges. So what do you think a predator is going to do with, let's say you get a 13-year-old account already verified, Roblox for$15 on eBay. Now the guy can go target 13-year-olds because he just spent 15 bucks.

27:32But the moral of that is Roblox has a huge responsibility. They're a big platform. They're the largest platform for children in the world. They're a multi-billion dollar corporation. I can't fully blame them. I don't think they've made good decisions. I don't know if you know that they've banned vigilantes from their platform. They don't let law enforcement on there. Can you describe for people who don't have kids at home what Roblox is? Okay. So Roblox is, imagine Legos. I'm sure most people know what Legos are. Digital Legos where They're walking around the screen, they're chatting with each other, and they're playing games with each other.

28:11Like, just to keep things simple, tic-tac-toe virtually. And they look like little Lego characters. And the children are able to type to each other and talk inside of these Roblox games. And there's, you know, four, five, six, seven, eight-year-old children playing this game. It's very popular amongst them. And with this age verification situation that they just added, it makes it more dangerous, in my opinion. And I have solutions on what they could do. I have a friend that I can't name, but they're federal law enforcement. They have been in child crimes for longer than I've been alive. And they didn't even get them to the second interview stage.

28:52I found out that they don't have anyone. this is just me being told something, but I found out they had no one that's ever worked child crimes for our government or legal state working on their team to help with these issues. And as the largest game in the world for children, you would think that they would do everything in their power to keep predators off of that platform. And oh, and the point that I was trying to get at was that if you have a platform that's full of kids, it's going to attract the child. I'm sorry. If you have a platform that is full of children, it's going to attract a predator because that's what predators do.

29:29They put themselves in positions like becoming teachers or becoming police officers or camp counselors or whatever gives them access to children. So yes, Roblox is, for me to say, is Roblox intentionally trying to make a platform for predators to groom children? I don't think that's their goal, but I think they're doing a horrible job at trying to combat it. and there's easy ways for them to make this problem a lot better. And what I want to do as an individual is educate as many parents out there that, you know, because a lot of them, their kids are playing this game, you know, 150 million daily active users or something like that.

30:08Some crazy high number of kids around the world are playing this game. And, you know, it saddens me that parents have no idea. They just hand them an iPad, they hand them a computer, and they just, they sit in a corner and play this game where strangers are getting access to them and asking them for some of the most horrific things that I've ever seen in almost eight years of child crimes and trafficking, which, you know, I, I, there's a lot, it's, it's a lot easier to show you what I mean by that than by tell you that because it's, you know, parents, parents, you know, can hear, uh, internet has predators.

30:42The park, there might be a sex offender at the park that's staring at a kid. But until they see it or it's happened to them, it's usually not real. And of course, it's easy to say somebody like myself who works in this space is going to be an extremist or somebody that's going to immediately assume everybody is bad because I deal with this every day. I have no evidence to believe that it isn't a significant problem because I'm finding in almost eight years that there's more people that are willing to meet or talk with a child inappropriately than not on not just Roblox, but any social media platform, chat app.

31:19And I've demonstrated this live on many podcasts. And it's never failed, unfortunately. I wish that I could fail. I wish I could pull my laptop out, go to a chat site, pretend to be a child, and not have a grown man asking me to do something inappropriate. But I have never failed, unfortunately. It's a pretty overwhelming time in history, certainly in this country. And that's why prayer is more important than ever. Prayer keeps you connected with God and it reduces stress. It puts your life and the world into perspective. Our friends at the Halo app just launched their May Prayer Challenge. It's called the Detachment Challenge.

31:53It's about taking a step back and getting that perspective on the troubles of this world. Let's not suggest we should abandon our responsibilities here or care less. We should care more. But fundamentally, it means placing your faith in God. Work and hobbies matter, but they should not carry the full weight of your heart. Being more present with God is the only thing that matters, and it's what changes you and the world around you. Through simple daily prayer and reflection, you learn to trust God more deeply, find a kind of steadiness that does not depend on everything around you going right.

32:27You don't have to have it all figured out. You just have to show up and stay true to your faith, and Hallow helps you do that. Download Hallow and get three months for free at hallow.com slash Tucker. It is absolutely the best. Part of the problem is it's too upsetting. And I think we were talking about this off camera. I think it's, you know, the most upsetting things, children being hurt, being at the very top of it, people can't even face it. They don't want to think about it. They just compartmentalize it and move on. Not because they support it, but precisely because of how violently they are opposed to it.

33:02But it's just really upsetting. I understand that, but to give you just a counter to that, I mean, right after my interview with Sean Ryan, a 13-year-old girl from the same exact group I was just talking about was hanging by an extension cord in a parking lot. And in the chat room while she did this live, we're saying that they would, you know, she took her clothes off, it'd be hot or she died. You know, in the parking lot. This happened right after. Yeah, yeah. There's been a ton of suicides. This is a significant issue. And that's why I wanted to talk about it. And Sean brought it up. What platform was this?

33:35They're luring through mental health support groups. They're looking for vulnerable kids. And then they befriend them. And then after they befriend them and they pretend they're a boyfriend or girlfriend, they exchange nude photos. And then after the nude photos are exchanged, instead of sex-stewarding them like a Nigerian scam or might for money, they try to get them to harm themselves in exchange for not having their photos exposed to their friends, family, school. And they're sextorting them, but they're using, instead of money, they want them to carve group names and usernames into their chests, into their wrists, into their bodies.

34:12And then, you know, sometimes it escalates to harming animals, their pets in their houses, or hurting strangers. Literally, there's been murders of strangers lighting homeless people on fire. A guy torched himself in a hotel room just to prove that he was worthy of being part of one of these groups. I mean, this is not just happening in like a little part of the country somewhere, you know, randomly. This is on a mass scale. And, you know, there's some people that are saying that one of the biggest dangers for children at the moment is these groups, which I know it's sad. I know people don't want to hear this stuff.

34:48Well, it's overwhelming because there's no motive. They don't have a motive. Right. They're a nihilist extremist group. So that, I mean, I think is the definition of evil. The whole point of it is the suffering. There's no, it's not like you robbed a liquor store and shot the clerk in order to get his money, which is obviously evil. But at least it's explicable in human terms. This is just spiritual evil. It's spiritually evil. And their logo is a pentagram. They identify as a satanic cult. And the original group was called 764 Group. It was the original, the first one that ever came out that had this ideology or methodology that they use.

35:29And they have like guides, literal guides that teach you how to groom and extort these children. And they spread them amongst each other. Well, now there's hundreds, if not thousands, of these offshoots that do exactly the same thing using different names. And, you know. Has there been any effort to arrest these groups? Yeah. So this is what makes it a little bit difficult. So there's 450 active investigations right now with the FBI, not nearly enough. I mean, I could show you one group that Sentinel Foundation and I, which I'll explain how I even got involved in Sentinel Foundation in a minute.

36:03I can go in one of those groups and there's more than 450 targets in that group alone. I mean, more needs to be done from law enforcement. But I understand that there's difficulty because it's not like we're going after the cartel where there's a ringleader and then you can arrest all the guys underneath them. They're all in the same town or they might get caught together. These guys are from all over the country, some of them international and it's going to be one at a time, you know, and they don't use their real names. They don't use real photos of themselves. They go by aliases. And, you know, it's really, it's very sad.

36:38But the way to tackle this issue is not by arresting one guy at a time because these groups are just massively getting larger and larger and larger and a new offshoot comes out, the second one disappears. What happens is, in my experience, parents being aware of the issue, knowing what it is, knowing what to look for on their children's devices, that's going to cause a lot more impact and fix this problem or at least make a huge dent in this problem rather than making the total of 30 arrests that have happened and the five on name maybe as a total of 35 arrests since the inception a couple of years ago.

37:15So, you know, I think alerting parents is going to do a way bigger. 35 people total have been arrested in five years? Yeah, well, I think it's like three or four years. Don't quote me on that. But not 3 ,000 people. It should be way more than that. It should be way more than that, but it's not. And these guys aren't some crazy hackers. They're connected to hacking groups called The Calm. It's very deep. It's a long story. But they're not like these elite hackers that are impossible to find. A lot of them are 16, 20-somethings. They'll feel comfortable with somebody, pretend, or I'm sorry, they'll feel like they're actually their friend and disclose their real name or phone number or general idea where they live.

37:58And if that person gets arrested, you know they're snitching. They're looking at 30 years to life or something. They're telling on everyone they can. And so, but it's not, as I said, that yeah, we can make as many arrests as possible and I'm all for it. But when it comes down to, you know, the scale of this issue, 35 arrests, let's just say it is, is not nearly enough. So I think educating parents is going to do a lot more. And that's why I'm doing these podcasts. I'm not doing it for me. I'm doing this for parents and children, of course. Where's the forum? You said there are these chat groups where this begins.

38:36Where are those? So I have some screenshots of these mental health support groups. Sometimes they're official, like actual mental health support groups where a child may be having suicidal ideations or an eating disorder or whatever it may be. And these guys will join there looking for the child that's suffering. And then they reach out to them and pull them out of that site. So there's the official real sites that really will help you for your mental health. And they're luring from there. And then they create their own fake ones where they'll post on Twitter that'll say, you know, are you struggling with XYZ?

39:11Join this group. They join the group. Everybody's all nice to you and friendly and bubbly. And then the second that you send that nude photo, and I'm sure, you know, if you, like for me, when I was a kid, getting bullied in school, for example, it's something that at the time, I thought it would never go away. I thought that my life was over. I thought that no matter what I did, nobody was ever going to like me. And I relate with these kids that when they send these nude photos, they think my life's ruined. If this gets out to my school or to my family or to my boss or whatever it may be, that they're never going to come back from it.

39:53Yeah, they made a mistake. They shouldn't have been sending a naked photo of themselves on the internet. I get that. But their life will be okay. It doesn't mean you have to end your life over it. And that's what these guys want you to do. They want you to hurt yourself to the point where they're recording it. They create content from it and send it to other groups and brag about what they're doing. And the end result is them trying to get you to end your life and cause as much violence and extremism as possible. And like I said, I have video after video of these people live on camera talking to these group members, stabbing strangers, lighting people on fire, kicking old women down the steps.

40:35I could go on and on and on. I mean, it's very disturbing stuff, but it's happening and kids are susceptible to this and they're at risk. I mean, they genuinely are at risk. This is not me. I'm not like putting a tinfoil hat on right now and saying like, this is a problem. This is a problem. Like a significant one. So I would like to show you that. I know you're uncomfortable with it. I just want you to see. Please do. Okay. I'm just, as you're talking, I'm thinking like, how did we get to a place like this? Evil. I think that, you know, we could get on a deep conversation about this, but I, and people might say I'm nuts, but I believe that we're, we could be in the end times.

41:17Like it's, the world's pretty messed up right now. So yeah, the love between people will grow cold. That is predicted. It is. And it clearly has, and to hurt people for the pure joy of hurting them. That's it. There is no other benefit. Yeah. And I've never seen anything like that in my life. You know, I especially coordinated and connected with real Satanist groups, like Order of Nine Angles, like a real Satanist group off of the internet. They have a direct connection with them as well. So they identify as Satanists. I will say Russia banned Satanism. Putin banned Satanism. It's one of the reasons they hate Putin.

41:51And if you look at who hates Putin the most, it's not the anti-Satanists. Oh, you can say whatever you want, but a normal country would just ban this. Sorry. You can't try to evoke spiritual evil in my country because you'll destroy it. And they have. Yeah, well, I mean, it's definitely illegal what they're doing. There's some weird law with, you know, child sexual abuse material, CSAM, is obviously a child that's naked. But when a child cuts their wrists or they do something like that, unless it is sexualized, it's not considered CSAM. So I believe that the same way that we made an exception in the United States with AI-generated child pornography or CSAM, we made an exception that we treat that as the real thing.

42:34Because people post pictures of their kids all the time on social media. and I have these groups, I have screenshots of these groups with 30, 40 ,000 users in them that are using other people's children with AI and putting them in vulnerable, horrible positions. And it's like, I don't want to be the guy going on social media saying, hey, don't post your child that you're so proud of because these guys are weirdos. But like the size of these groups, they have a pretty good reason to say it, you know, and I can prove it. It's not me just saying it. Let me show you this group in particular, like, cause I put it in folders There's a trigger warning here.

43:11You know, it's a lot, Tucker. Here, speaking to the mic here. There's a lot here, and it starts with luring, which this is, you know, this is some mental health stuff. Join cool friendly server to help you go through your hard times. And you can see Harm Nation here. That's one of the things that they use. Harm Nation? Yep. And you see that says COM. So COM is connected to 764. So this looks like, okay, that looks like a younger girl. Join this friendly server to help you through your depression. Another one, outpatient wellness center. And then the description kind of gives away what it is. No child form, no gore, leaking, no drugs, guns or nudity.

43:53I mean, you shouldn't have to be specifying that in an outpatient wellness group. And this is, there was a girl who did something horrible to herself as well, who was interested in gore sites. And she wasn't supposed to be looking at this type of stuff online, but she was interested in the edgy stuff, if that makes sense. And that's what this is here. So it says, join if you are any of the following, mentally ill, fatherless, daddy issues, schizo, borderline personality disorder, or femcel, which means you act a little feminine as a guy. And then this is a direct invitation to, you know, just these groups where you're going to be lured and then eventually extorted.

44:34um and then here turns into the grooming stage which you know there's an entire checklist here there's so many of these like 220 page documents on how like and i'll skip through this but it's saying you know that uh that you can find victims on games like roblox or on social media platforms like x formerly known as twitter reddit and instagram once you've found your victim you You have to spend a lot of time on her, make her think you can relate to a lot of stuff and play games with her. Call her cute nicknames when you've talked for a little while, like princess, darling, honey, etc. This will make her more attached to you because females love being called nicknames.

45:16Once you've talked for a while, you're going to ask her to be your girlfriend, which she most likely is going to say yes to. Now that she's under your control, you may start asking her for stuff like nudes, personal information. she doesn't do self-harm. If she doesn't do self-harm already, then you must extort your victim. But if she does, she will almost guaranteed cut for your dirty needs when you've done all of this. So there's like, you know, guide after guide after guide, and then literally grooming children in these chat logs here, which I'll skip over because there's just so much to read.

45:49You know, pretending to be nice and how much they love them. Please call me back. I love you. I'll do anything. And this is where things get a little more graphic. So the extortion steps are, I'll skip through this as well. To start off for you, to be able to extort, you must also have the ability to groom. Without grooming, you won't get any information or any news. And if you groomed your victim, you pretty much have control of her. To extort a female properly, you must have the following. Personal information, addresses, name, phone numbers, and nudes. and once you have this stuff, you may start threatening your victim with, for example, sending her nudes to her parents, swatting, which I'm sure you're familiar with swatting, and leaking personal information, etc.

46:34She doesn't do as you say, if she doesn't do as you say, examples, make a blood sign, which means like cut yourself and write on the walls, which I'll show you in a second here. Make a cut sign, which is cutting usernames into their body. kill your cat, kill yourself. At the end, if you've done everything correctly, you should have gotten exactly what you want to. Remember, never say content is content because no one wants to see some S word cat scratches, which means like not cutting yourself deep enough. To be honest with you, that is nothing. That is not even 10 % of how bad this gets. And I know that people that are watching this are not going to see these videos and pictures.

47:17I hope not. Yeah. Because that's so upsetting that, and this whole conversation came about because I was down at Sean Ryan's place in Tennessee, and he was overwhelmed and really wounded for real. Man, it was a Navy SEAL, seen a lot, and this just undid him for a time, and I can see why. I just feel like the only way that that's ever going to get fixed is not through law enforcement, federal law enforcement. but through Christian religious revival. I mean, only an atheist country could have stuff like that. It's unbelievable. It's sad, and I agree with you, and I believe in God. I think that these people are the definition of evil.

48:05I can't find any other justification of why this stuff even happens outside of evil. it does make you reassess the satanic uh sacrifice panic of the 1980s we were told Dorothy Rubinowitz of the of the Wall Street Journal told us it was a panic and I believed her there were a bunch of arrests in the 80s of these satanic cult rings that were abusing children and there was a lot of evidence it was real but then there was some evidence that it wasn't real and like I didn't know what to think and then I remember thinking at the time this is in the early 90s, like, there's no way that could actually happen.

48:43They're not organized satanic groups, sacrificing animals, harming children, killing children, holding black masses. Like, this is America, man. It's weird. But it's clearly true. It's clearly true. And Tucker, I haven't, like, you don't want to see it, but, you know, I can show you these people in the masses. These groups are not like five people in them. There's mass quantities of people in these groups that are doing this, you know, that are participating in this behavior, as well as trying to join these groups, they require proof of crime is what they call. So like, if you want to be a part of a specific group, you have to prove that you have victims, whether that be digital victims that were sex stewarded, or maybe you went out and murdered a homeless person, which is, I have a couple of videos of homeless people being murdered.

49:35And, you know, one that will never leave my brain isn't like, I just brought up the old woman. He's on a call with somebody from the group. He kicks her down the steps and he starts just beating on her and then he slits her throat and you watch this and he's doing this live with somebody on a phone call laughing. And then you see him running through a field with a knife. It has blood all over it. And it was just a senseless act of violence for evil. I mean, it's just evil. And it infuriates me so much to the point, and upsets me, of course, and that's why I talked about in the beginning, the compartmentalization.

50:12If I wasn't able to turn this off, I won't be able to function. I can't, you know, I'm not heartless. I do have a soul, and I go to church twice a week, and I pray to God that this stuff goes, you know, not just this, but any type of child crime just disappears. I know it's not realistic. I know that evil powers this country. And I know that Satan is a prince of the air, as it says in the Bible. I know these things. But I have to understand that my spot is to use my voice, use my experience, use my time to educate as many people as I possibly can about these problems. Because unfortunately, one in four girls are hurt sexually as children.

50:55One in 20 boys or in that number, what does that number end up being in the future? Especially if these victims, you know, not all of them, but a large number of them reoffend in their lifetime. What happens in the next generation? Is it going to be one in two girls and one in 10 boys? And where does this end? So I pray that this ends and parents actually open up and they realize that these devices, like you hand your kid a phone, an iPad, a computer, a gaming console, because it's almost like a babysitter to them. When I was a child, which was only 20 something years ago, my mom gave me a prepaid phone that I had to top up with minutes.

51:33And I'm sure people can relate to that. If she said, give me that phone, I wouldn't have cared. But these kids, that's their connection to the world. That's like cutting off one of their hands. These phones are their connection to people. And if they're scared to come to you about something like what I just showed you or somebody that's extorting them or grooming them or they don't know what grooming is and they can't determine that they're being groomed, having these conversations with your kids and knowing that they're going to come to you if something like this happens, even if it is embarrassing to them, could potentially save their life.

52:06And that's why I'm doing what I'm doing. I'm not doing it because I enjoy looking at children cutting their wrists. It's so bad. It's so bad for anyone to see those images. And I feel sorry for you. and I know a lot of people, I've seen some ugly things, nothing by comparison to an afternoon on the internet though. Yeah, the internet's wild. And the reason why - Is there any effort at all to, there's a lot of effort to police my political speech, any criticism of Benjamin Netanyahu who was instantly policed, but is there any real effort to police this? So one thing going back to Roblox is they banned vigilantes on their platform, Schlepp being one of them.

52:47So explain what that means. So a vigilante is somebody that's taking the law into their own hands. And Schlepp, he got, I think it was six of them arrested with mugshots from the Roblox platform. So he pretended to be a child on the platform, waited for people to message him. But even as a civilian, entrapment doesn't exist. You have to be law enforcement for it to be entrapment. But he pretended to be just like a law enforcement officer. Grown adults messaged him. He got six arrests in a short period of time. and then Roblox banned him from the platform and sent him a cease and desist in the mail.

53:22Because he's a vigilante on the platform and they believe that that causes more danger. And they put this ridiculous press release out that people can look into. From there, Slep started to go public. He got an attorney. Who owns Roblox? This guy, I forget the guy's name. I can bring it up if you want. It's a publicly traded company. But the CEO's name is escaping me at the moment. I think it's whatever. And Schlepp, though, is a younger kid, and he's been working with Chris Hansen on, you know, doing some awesome stuff, a documentary. And unfortunately, he was groomed on the platform as a child, which is what motivated him to be a vigilante on the platform.

54:01and um you know i uh i think that you know i i just can't comprehend why a platform would uh you know why a platform would ban the people that are helping make it cleaner you know even if it is in a why do you think what's the motivation there i have no idea did they reach out to him and say thank you for what you've done no they did the opposite they sent a cease and desist in the mail so to his house which is you know he posted it on twitter Did they allege he did something wrong? I don't believe that. I think they just were saying that it was dangerous. I'd have to look at the press release for the exact words.

54:40I don't want to get sued by Roblox, so I'm trying to be careful with what I say here. But this is all factual. I mean, they put out a press release that said it, and he did get a cease and desist. All of that stuff happened. And from what I was told, they don't allow law enforcement to conduct investigations on their platform either. That doesn't mean the law enforcement doesn't, but they don't allow for it, supposedly. So I don't understand what they're angling or what they're trying to do, posturing to do, for other words. But it's weird. It's just a strange thing. Well, if they're punishing the guy who is trying to punish the criminals...

55:18So it's kind of like the defund the police. Like, okay, then whose side are you on? Yeah, well, let me show you what their stock looks like. Now, after just talking about that exact thing, I think that a lot of people are in agreement with us. Like, why would you do that? I mean, here's the six months. You can look at this over, you know, it's split in half. So I know that, I mean, what is the top article here? Understanding Roblox grooming problem, you know? So for being the largest children's game, if the headline article is their grooming problem, then maybe you should do something about it or take bigger actions other than age verification.

55:57And also you don't want to go to hell for eternity. So that's also a good motivator, I think. I don't think many people in Silicon Valley are worried about hell and they should be. I agree with that. So it is what it is. And it's very sad for me. And I don't want people to be, you know, the people that don't know me at all. And they're watching me for the first time to think that I'm just consuming myself with evil for fun. I do this. And these are active investigations as well. I'm showing you the stuff that's publicly out there. But like, you know, I'm still trying to get them arrested. I'm still actively assisting in the arrest of these individuals and more.

56:33Can't talk about those cases, of course. But this public stuff, it's not fun for me. I feel like this is a purpose that was given to me by God. And I don't know how much you know about my story, if Sean told you or I told you. No, tell me. So I get a text message from my friend's wife, and it had three screenshots in it. And at this time, I had no idea about, I obviously knew predators and pedophiles. What were you doing for a living then? At that time, I owned a medical facility for substance use and mental health. They change it from abuse to use. So it's a weird thing. I got a text message from my friend's wife.

57:12And it was three different screenshots of this horrible website that was on the clear web that anyone could visit. This is like not the quote unquote dark web that people talk about. It's really just, it's called Tor, the onion router. On the clear web, anyone can see this website. And one of these three photos was a picture of a child that was sitting in a bathtub. You could see their back. Like you could tell that they were nude, but you could just see their back. And the title of the forum post said, they have no idea what's going to happen to them tonight. And underneath of it, all of these people were talking about what they were going to do to this person's child.

57:45So this is my first time ever seeing anything like this. And I'm like disgusted on a level that I've never felt before. So I leave where I'm at. I physically left the location of where I was at because I just had this switch flip in my brain that I didn't know I had. I don't have children. I wasn't abused as a child. Like, you know, like I, it had to have been a God thing for me. So I go home with the intention on, of, of trying to probe around this website and take it down, which without all the technical details for the nerds that are listening, like I was going to do a distributed denial of service attack.

58:20Just keep the site shut down. Like it would have been impossible to load the site, which is a very simple, easy attack to do. It sounds crazy, but it's a very easy one. But I got lucky, if you want to say lucky, I got lucky that they used a forum called Zenforo, and they used a theme that happened to be nulled, meaning they didn't pay for access to use this theme. And that theme gave me access to their entire server, which included their entire database. So now this website that is absolutely terrible, that children are on selling themselves, that people are on looking for that type of material and chatting about it on an open forum that anyone can read.

59:00I now have full access to their entire site to download anything I want and to try to uncover who's running it. So I started to have a little bit of common sense because I got an adrenaline rush at this point when I realized I have access to this. that common sense started to kick in. If you download all of this data, you're going to be in possession of CSAM. And I didn't know the term CSAM back then. I just used the term child porn. And I don't like the word child porn person. I feel like it implies consent. But I knew that if I downloaded this database, I cannot include images, videos, any attachments, because when I go to deliver this to law enforcement, I don't want to get wrapped up in anything like that.

59:45The last thing I need is somebody Google searching Ryan Montgomery and then something like that horrible comes up, you know? So I thought about that even back then. And I wrote a script to extract the database. And the first user, and exclude all that stuff, the first user in that database was a politician in Virginia named Nathan Larson. And he's a little bit of a whack job politician, but he was running for Congress. As a libertarian. I believe so. I believe so. Yeah, so Nathan Larson was running this website. Never heard of him before at that time. And I start to export the database. There's 7 ,000 total people in this database across four different backups that were on the server.

1:00:30It was just a combination of a ton of users. So this is my beginning. I go from not knowing anything about this at all to now I got a database of 7 ,000 pedophiles and I want to do something with it. So I reach out to my attorney first, actually, I believe it was, but I reached out to him who reached out to the task force in the local, like the Palm Beach County task force, I think it was, or Broward, one or the other. And then IC3.gov, National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, and then 11 different media stations, because there was a six-month gap in between law enforcement not ever showing up at my door like I thought they were going to.

1:01:13And then I was like, okay, well, I'm just bringing this to the media because I feel like they may take action if I go to the media. So I spoke to all sides, left, right, middle, whatever. Politics really isn't my thing. So I spoke to all and any reporter that would take the time to talk to me. Every single one of them was interested in running the story. Not one of them was saying, like, you know, we're, we don't want to take this story. They all came back with almost an identical answer that their legal team was not willing to run it for liability reasons, for legal reasons or how the data was obtained.

1:01:48So my rebuttal to that was, you know, just run it without my name, run it without any of the illegally quote unquote obtained material. Just let people know that this website exists, that there's children on here that are selling their body. All, you know, let them, let parents know that this is happening. Not one of them run, the story. So I'm very aggravated at this point that nobody wants to run anything. Six months goes by, Nathan Larson's, in my Google alerts, I get a notification, Nathan Larson's arrested with a 13-year-old girl in Denver, Colorado that he kidnapped and raped. And I was so aggravated because every one of those articles, I know that could have been prevented if they listened to me in the first place.

1:02:27There's 7 ,000 other people in this database that nothing has happened to at this point. And I didn't want to just leak it to the internet because if I leaked it to the internet and there were concerned parents on there, which it would have been hard for that to happen because the application process to become a user, you have to answer some wild questions. But even undercovers, I didn't want to leak the database and potentially do what Ashley Madison did. People killed themselves over that leak. So I'm waiting all this time. No, law enforcement is not helping. Media is not helping. Nathan gets arrested with this little girl and they don't include the website at all in any articles.

1:03:05They talk about him being a person that ran for Congress. You've seen, you've heard the story, but you probably haven't heard about the websites that he was running. And 7 ,000 people, it's not a crazy number, but it's a lot of pedophiles in one spot. And if I got all of their email addresses and all their usernames and all their private messages and everything you need, I don't know why this wouldn't be a case on a golden platter or silver platter for law enforcement. So I was very angry at that point. And the only thing that I could think to do, because I didn't have the network I have now, you know, I'm just a computer hacker that owns healthcare facilities.

1:03:42And I'm kind of staying in the dark. So I was like, you know, I see these vigilante predator groups on YouTube. And at that time, it wasn't like they are now. There's a ton of them that exist now where they go out, they have decoys who pretend they're kids. and then they go out and confront them one by one. And I saw back then there were only like, you know, a few of them on YouTube, not a ton. So I asked them, because one, I'm sorry, I'm skipping a little bit ahead here. So those groups that were there, I noticed that in the videos where they're confronting these predators, where they believe they're meeting up with a real child and then they get confronted by an adult, similar to how Chris Hansen was doing it with law enforcement.

1:04:21They were just doing it without law enforcement. They wouldn't know the person's name, a lot of these groups or where they work. or what their wife's name was or what kind of car they drove or any details about them that would just show up. So I was like, okay, that's where my value could come in. I can identify these people. And there's a better chance of this guy staying if you know where he works, if you know what he does and all of his personal details. He's got a better chance of not just turning around and getting back in his car and driving away. So I reach out to these channels. I offer to provide them with a full case file on anyone that they send identifiers to.

1:04:55and a few of them accepted. And for a couple of years, I did that. So I was helping these channels anonymously. I wasn't putting my name out there. I wasn't asking for any money. I just wanted to help. And that's what made me feel better about nothing happening in the first place with this one website with the politician. Then skip those two years of me doing that. A friend of mine, a professional MMA fighter, we start, and there's a reason why I say that. He's a professional MMA fighter. and we're sitting in a garage. I'm telling him this exact story. I pop open a chat room. I show him how bad this problem is.

1:05:32Again, demonstrating that it can happen anywhere, anytime. Unfortunately, zero effort required. And he is more than willing to start a group with me to catch these guys in our local area and in Delray Beach, Florida. So it was called, and he's still running it. It's called 561PC. And once he starts doing that and he's got a little bit of a social media following and people start watching us catch predators. I'm behind the camera and he's the face of it, reading the chat logs to these predators one by one. A couple of the podcasts that focus on MMA wanted to talk to him and ask him about Catch a Predator.

1:06:11He brung me along on these podcasts and one of them asked me the question, how did you get started? So that question right there is what changed the complete trajectory of my life. Like we wouldn't be sitting here right now if that question wasn't asked. And, you know, like the butterfly effect type of situation. But they asked that question. I explained that there's this case. I still had all that data, still nothing done with it legally. I just have this database of all these people, nothing done. And from there, I have all kinds of media reaching out the next day because a clip from that podcast got 10 million views in less than 24 hours on a smaller podcast.

1:06:48I wake up and my inbox is full. My phone's getting phone calls. and emails and everybody wants to hear the story. Nobody wanted to listen to me the day before, but now they want to hear it because it went viral on social media. And one of those people was Sean Ryan. Sean Ryan, and I didn't know Sean at this time. We never even spoke to each other, but he saw my clip and he was like, I want to get your message out there. And he took a huge chance on me because I could have been lying. I could have been a nut job, a schizophrenic. I might've been making this whole story up. But Sean took the chance on me of not only that it was truthful, but the chance of releasing that type of content with screenshots and chat logs and all this stuff on YouTube with the chance that he might lose his channel.

1:07:32So I go in there in the Sean Ryan show and I'm wearing a t-shirt. I say this a lot, but I'm wearing an oversized t-shirt, paler than I am now. I'm skinny. I'm hesitating on my words. I got lights in my face. I probably drank eight bottles of water. I'm so nervous, you know, and not because of, you know, talking about what I wanted to get out there. I'm just not used to being on a podcast, you know, it just wasn't my thing. And I finished it up after we talk about gadgets, which, you know, we'll get into. I want to show you some fun, happy stuff in a minute. But, you know, I start doing that and then I get into this stuff and I walk out of the studio and I ask Sean, I'm like, hey, man, how do you think that went?

1:08:15be honest with me because I really felt like I messed it up and he was like yeah man I think it went pretty well and and uh him and I both didn't think it was going to make it five minutes on YouTube because they're they're pretty strict sometimes when it comes to when you especially when you show that type of content um so we didn't think it was going to make it more than five minutes and I was okay with that I was like okay fine at least I tried I did everything I possibly could Sean sends me a text as soon as it's released like pretty close to as soon as it was released, and I'm sure you've seen this, one of 10, meaning your video is doing well.

1:08:45And I didn't know what it meant. I just, Sean said that it was doing well. It became his biggest podcast that he's ever done, still current day, on Apple, Spotify, YouTube combined. It's got hundreds of millions of views, a total of, with the shorts, billions of views. And I'm not saying this because I'm some noteworthy individual that at the time that had like a, you know, that would have brought that type of traffic in. I think what happened is people could resonate and understand that this is not something that is an uncommon problem. It's a taboo topic that people don't talk about until it happens to someone around them or happens in their family.

1:09:23And I'm showing the significance of the problem, not just with my words, but with factual evidence, and especially with a live demonstration of it happening on the podcast. And Sean and I got very close, And now, I mean, this is kind of my first time announcing this, but I'm the godfather of Sean's child. Him and I are very close, and that means a lot to me. I mean, that's his firstborn child. And I don't want to go into detail about his personal stuff, but Sean gave me the okay to say that. And I love the guy very much, and he took a chance on me that nobody else would. And there's a whole other story that you might be interested in with Project Veritas getting involved and then fumbling it.

1:10:08And their interim CEO telling me the story wasn't a tidal wave and they threw it out. But the journalist at Project Veritas tried very hard. They did expose a few people in that original database. They tried to partner up with Sean on the release of it, but completely failed. Why do you think that Project Veritas wouldn't run it? I think they're just extremely incompetent after James O 'Keefe either left or was fired, whatever actually happened there. No one really knows except for him. And I genuinely don't, I don't even know him personally, but they reach out. They said they want to do it. The journalists spent a ton of time uncovering these people and showing up where they were at, recording them undercover and asking them, hey, what were you doing on the site?

1:10:49And why, you know, did you say this? Did you say that? And they had all this evidence, but since it didn't make it into the New York Post or the New York Times, they weren't willing to continue with the story. And then I looked into the, you know, I looked into the circulation on those, whatever one it was, press or the Times or Post or the Times. And the circulation was like a 10th of what social, like, you know, a small influencer on social media would be getting in, you know, that year. So it made no sense to see the interim CEO. Her name is Hannah Giles. I don't know if you're familiar with her, but she...

1:11:20Okay. So Hannah gets on the phone with me and says that this story is not a tidal wave and it got completely shut down. Their journalists, on the other hand, were very upset about it because they really cared. It was a passion project for them. The management team, they just threw it out. But Sean Ryan was the one that pushed the story so far that allowed me to get involved with federal law enforcement, to work with Sentinel Foundation, to deal, you know, now I've been, I've worked with every agency under the sun. You name the acronym, I've worked with them. And it's a blessing that I never thought would ever happen for me.

1:11:55It's a very dark path that I chose to take, but I believe that I did it for the right reasons. And I told you, I pray to God every single night that if you don't want this in my life, to take it away from me. And it just unfortunately keeps getting worse. So you made reference earlier to organized groups that are behind this almost inconceivable effort to make children harm themselves. Satanist groups, what are those groups? So there's a few of them that I'm familiar with, or that I've seen, I guess is a better way to put it. And it just actually reminded me of a conversation I want to show you, because a lot of it's senseless.

1:12:36So it's all senseless, but even if they believe that what they're doing is right. So the order of nine angles is one that I believe has been around a long time. The order of nine angles? Yeah, or 09A they go by. They believe in a thing called culling, which is like, you know, they believe that they get power by harming other people. They do. That's a real spiritual principle. That's what abortion is. That's what human sacrifice is. Understood. That's what, you know, every ancient religion was about that from the Canaanites till present. Yeah, that is literally devil worship. You get power from hurting others.

1:13:17And they believe that. I mean, they openly talk about it and use the words culling. Culling. Culling, yeah. 09A. 09A, and then I saw a reference recently to NLM, No Lives Matter. And if you don't mind, I can pull it out. I want to show you this conversation because the guy is, you know, one of them is selling tickets to his suicide. and another one is he wanted to be murdered by, you know, suicide by a cop, but instead of just letting it happen that way, he was talking to one of these cultists and he was deciding, you know, should he, you know, murder a bunch of people on the way out and what group is he going to do it for?

1:13:58You know, like just, you know. Right, you don't need to, I mean, what we're watching is like, you know, a country that needs an exorcism. It seriously does. And that conversation, if you don't want to see it, that's okay. It's a guy that is just, he's ready to end his life. And I don't support hurting yourself in any way, shape, or form. But if you're going to do that, don't bring other people out with you. The whole point of it is, I mean, suicide's an act of hostility. Anyone who's been around it can affirm that. So, yeah. By the way, Jesus cast the demons, the legion of demons out of the man into the herd of pigs.

1:14:34What's the first thing they do? Kill themselves. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. Yeah, no, it's so obviously the product of possession. Order of Nine Angles, what does that mean, Nine Angles? I genuinely don't know. But it's been around a while. Been around a while, yeah. Yeah, I do know that part. And these are groups that are just like internet groups. Yeah, but I think Order of Nine Angles also has physical members that are not just internet. that there's a combination between them and like, let's just say 764 instead of, because there's a ton of subgroups that go underneath of it that do exactly the same thing.

1:15:12They have connections to these real life groups that like, you know, that will go out and, you know, protest something or go burn a, burn a building down or have you ever heard of like, you know, I don't want to go off completely off to a different topic here, but we brought up swatting temporarily. Do you know what swatting is? I do. Okay. So I've been SWATed three times just talking about these things online by these guys and telling people that there's, which I don't even have a wife, but my wife is tied to a chair. I got bombs in the windows and I'm going to kill any cop that comes in the door.

1:15:47And I request these 911 calls because I know the cops in the area and you can do Freedom of Information Act or just request it from dispatch. And I hear it's not even like, it doesn't sound anything like me on any of these calls. but SWAT teams are coming to my house and now they got the last one they called my phone in advance and told me hey we got officers around the corner like would you mind just coming out front to make sure everything's all good and I'm out there with my coffee cup and did a little 360 around and like you know they just are trying to torture me and they've been harassing my family they've you know they've threatened my friends they've threatened me the death threats they you know you name it they've done it.

1:16:26What I find baffling is that you and I are talking about these groups, you're naming them, they've harmed you, they've clearly harmed or killed other people. What kind of effort is there at the FBI to find these people and prosecute them? It's just, it's not, I don't think that it's a lack of passion. I think that, you know, HSI, for example, all they're focusing on right now is immigration. Like people are literally leaving their jobs because all, like the actual, from what I've been told, they're not focusing on investigations, especially in child crimes. They're just focusing on immigration.

1:17:02FBI, on the other hand, I don't think the passion isn't there. I think the problem is the resources and the skill set and the training that doesn't exist. Well, if you have active Satanist groups trying to kill people in your country, it seems like that would be a priority. I mean, I know it's not like January 6th level priority, but like somewhere on the list, you would have to want to address that, right? totally understand. And they are addressing it, but not to the ability that I know that they could. So, you know, it kind of segued into me coming up with an idea because we send, with Sentinel Foundation, we send people all over the world to train law enforcement on how to use new tools and how to identify people the same way that identify do.

1:17:44Like the first way, you know, first 10 minutes of our show, training law enforcement, like how to do those things so that they could go off of an identifier, like a username or a profile photo or a phone number or whatever it may be. Let's say it's just a license plate. I've even had one guy, I remember the story, but he was like a plumber. And you could see the logo of the plumbing company and a little portion of his face. And I was able to locate him just based on where he worked. I didn't even know what city or town that he lived in or name. And I went through the face, simple, but effective, went through the Facebook comments of that particular business.

1:18:24I did a reverse image search, not face search, reverse image search of the logo for the plumbing company, found their Facebook profile, and then was able to locate him based off of a little portion of the picture that I could identify him as. Took a lot of legwork. There was no automation. There was no advanced technology there. But sometimes open source intelligence is simple and sometimes it's extremely advanced. And that's why people like myself and other people that are working in this space, you know, if they're good with open source intelligence, because it doesn't just apply to child crimes, it applies to any crime.

1:19:00Identifying where somebody is at or what they're doing or what something is or details about a particular thing should be a skill set of all law enforcement, I believe. And we're doing a great job at that with Sentinel. But then with Pentester, we made a product called OSINT Pilot that instead of training and sending people all over the world and country, they can just conversationally talk. This is only for law enforcement, by the way. This is not for consumers. The Pentaster product itself is for consumers. But OSINT pilot, if you're law enforcement, reach out to us. We'll help you out. There's no training required.

1:19:36So you type in a person, let's just say it was that guy that had a logo of a plumbing company on his shirt and his face wasn't really that visible and there wasn't much to go off of, our tool will take that image, it will take the description, it'll search everything you would do by hand. We have over 40 tools implemented into it. And about 10 minutes later, you'll have a 30 or 40 page report on that individual if it was something it was able to find. Obviously, the more identifiers you add, the more effective it's going to be. But we made something that's never been done before. And it requires no training.

1:20:10Like you said, you don't have a computer, you never use a computer. I guarantee you that if I said, hey, find John Doe. Here's your identifier that you have. The last four digits of his phone number and he lives in this city and his first name and the last initial. That tool will find him. And even if you didn't know to put that information in, our tool will tell you what to provide it. So it's something that we built. We're super proud of it. And that's what I believe the FBI should be doing, HSI, everybody should be reaching out to not only myself, but anybody that's willing to provide these OSINT resources or, because it came deeper than that, OSINT, SIGINT, human, there's all these different types of intelligence that, you know, more people out there than myself are doing.

1:21:00But, you know, just my opinion. Yeah, it just seems like an emergency if you have, you know, Satanist groups working to kill Americans and their children. I don't know. I mean, I know, you know, they're not Iranian, but that would seem like something we should be really working to end. It shouldn't be a computer nerd like myself digging through these chat rooms or setting on foundation. We should be working in, and a lot of times we're working in tandem with federal law enforcement, like with all of these cases. But when it comes to the mass scale, you're absolutely right. It's not being prioritized in the way that we're prioritizing it.

1:21:39Yeah. I mean, it's everything that will destroy you and your family. What is that box of gadgets right there? I got a lot of gadgets for you, and I think that you're going to like them. So let's give this a better... No, I don't know if that's happy or not. I'm afraid of gadgets, too. No, it's a different type of fear. The other ones are more of a... Yeah, I'll show you. I almost messed with you, and I don't want to give away where we're at right now. but downstairs is a very unique place, right? And there's a lamp that happened to be sitting there. I don't know, you know, you probably don't even know it's there, but to the left of the couch, there's a lamp sitting there.

1:22:17And this right here, my friend, his name's Peaks. He took a regular bulb off of Amazon's called Wise. Like, and he made a bunch of different ones. So like you could buy this smart bulb on Amazon and make it change colors, essentially is all that it does. he put modified software or firmware onto this bulb. And I can match the colors of your other bulbs. Let's say I was in your bathroom using it, swapped out a bulb and left your office. Now I have an implant that I can monitor your Wi-Fi or try to pivot from this device to your other devices and take over your computers in your house or your office.

1:22:58And I could show you, if you had a lamp, I could show you, but you know. Tell me what it does. So I leave that in your house and then I get to do what? So leave this in a house, for example. The goal would be to access your network. So I would knock your devices offline with it. It has the ability to do that, which it's called a deauthentication attack. And then from there, you capture what's called a handshake. And then I could try to crack your Wi-Fi password from that handshake. Once I have that, now this light bulb is on your network with the rest of your computers. And from there, I could try to pivot from the bulb onto your computers with your sensitive information and files and anything.

1:23:39Or I could start to reroute your traffic with, it's called DNS, to phishing pages and try to steal credentials. I mean, this light bulb could be, you know how a router is connected to the internet? Yes. I could trick your computer into believing that this light bulb is the router. So I have the way I'm routing the internet through the bulb. It can do a lot more than that. I'm just trying to simplify it a little bit. And I can communicate with that light bulb from afar. In this bulb, no, you have to be within Wi-Fi range. There are other devices that are implants that you could at a distance with SIM cards or other means.

1:24:12Or if they're plugged directly into the back of a computer, you know, like I do have one of those in my bag that you would never know. You would never unplug it because it looks like it's supposed to be there. That one connects, you know, I could be in Guatemala and I could have complete control over that device from Guatemala. Wow. Yeah, so that's the hacker's nightlight. I thought that was kind of a cool... That is cool. And think of it like this. This is a real brand. This is not something that he paid to prototype. He hacked the bulb itself. And imagine a company like this either getting hacked, like compromised, or like a lot of these come from China.

1:24:49So let's say a Chinese company goes rogue, which I don't think is too crazy to think about modern day, and sends out custom firmware for these bulbs that does something malicious on your home network? What if it gains access to your computer or to your Amazon Alexa or whatever it may be, and now they're listening to you in your house or they're just trying to steal your passwords or doing whatever they're doing. They're collecting data or intel, which there's so many examples of that. Here's another one.

1:25:21So the same guy just buying smart, they're called Internet of Things or smart home devices straight off the internet. This is just a smart plug that looks, I mean, you can look at it. There's nothing special. What makes it smart? It connects to Alexa and Wi-Fi so you can turn something on or off. It's just a simple gadget that you can buy on Amazon. Okay. And let's say you want to... So you plug this in, plug the lamp or whatever into this, and then rather than actually just moving your fingers and turning it off, you tell some chick called Alexa to do it. Yeah, you tell Alexa. You say, hey, turn the lamp on, and she turns the lamp on.

1:26:00That is essentially the same as the light bulb. So that will monitor the network and still work just as it does out of the factory. I don't want to be judgy, but the idea of having Alexa in my house or anything like this in my house is just bizarre to me. Yeah. Why would you do that? So my personal reason is I can see the traffic going in and out of my house. I know that the microphone has to be listening at all times to listen for the word Alexa. I'm aware of that, but I know that my conversations, unless I say the word Alexa, are not being sent to Amazon server. So I'm personally not scared of it, but I do know that if somebody really wanted to, they could use those devices to listen or see inside my house.

1:26:40That is a fact. Of course. Yeah. Even I know that. Yeah, of course. But I'm okay with the risk there personally, which brings me to a topic that is a little bit more scary. Okay. So, you know, I don't know what your setup is at home with cameras, with your garage door, with your car, you know, if you, you know, but have you ever seen, have you ever seen anything like this before? No. So what this device would do and, and the usage of the, of it is illegal. So if I press that button, we're both committing a federal crime. Not me, man. Yeah. We're not pressing the button today. Okay. Unless, you know, unless you want to, but the, this is called a jammer.

1:27:17So what this does is it's going to shut down every single cell phone in this entire building, 70 meters. It's going to turn off GPS, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, all of it. It's going to jam all signals that are important, which means your wireless cameras are not going to work, your Bluetooth microphones, everything. You can't call 911. You have no way unless you have a landline hidden around here somewhere. The alarm system in this place that likely has a cellular connection can't contact you might hear the alarm going off but nobody's nobody's getting a notification that you're being robbed or anything this device can cause a serious problem in your life especially with the video cameras and alarms and phones um there is no solution for this problem you know and and it brings me how does that work so what it does is like imagine um like a way to put this into an analogy would be, okay, we're in a small room, right?

1:28:15And if I screamed at the top of my lungs and then I told you to tell me a story, when I'm screaming, if somebody was sitting over there, they may not be able to hear your story because I'm screaming. That's what this is doing. It's screaming at the top of its lungs, 70 meters and signals can't, they're just so garbled by the time they make it out of that range, that, you know, the 70 meter range, they don't work. So it's just immediately the second I press on that button, everything goes on. What's the cancer risk from being near something like that when it's on? I mean, it definitely puts a ton of EMFs out, but I don't think much more than your average radio.

1:28:52I mean, you're surrounded. I could show you a pretty wild example of that right now without turning anything on. This is just Bluetooth alone. Check this out. I always show this to people that talk about EMFs because you cannot avoid them. Here, right here. here you can just pass to me because i here's just the you can scroll down you see the colors there scroll down on the colors they're all the just they're just the bluetooth devices that are within 30 feet of us that's just bluetooth so you know imagine cellular you got gps wi-fi you got radio you have like you know from cdma gsm 4g lte literally all cellular signals are all hitting us.

1:29:40So if we got 50 Bluetooth devices in this building, which, you know, or more, it might've been more than 50 there, you're being, all these signals are passing through you regardless. The ionizing radiation is the ones you should worry about, like 5G and being close to a 5G tower. I believe that those are dangerous, you know, especially at long-term exposure. But no matter how protected you are, unless you live in the middle of nowhere with no signal to anything where you put your house in what's called a Faraday cage. You're getting penetrated by these signals whether you like it or not. What if you're sitting on an airplane using Wi-Fi?

1:30:17Same exact thing. You're even getting ultraviolet because the higher you go up, the less protection you have in the sky. Wi-Fi pilots get skin cancer. Exactly. It's almost unavoidable in my opinion. So that jammer right there is commercially available? Yeah, so they're illegal to buy. They're not illegal to own, but they're illegal to use. So of course I found this on the highway on my way here. Yeah. If you wanted to buy one illegally, where would you buy it? China. China is the primary place selling them. And a lot of the websites are scammed. So luckily criminals that want to buy them will likely get ripped off.

1:30:55But whoever bought this and left it on the side of the road must have known the right person to buy it from. Does it work? Yeah, it does work, yeah. It definitely works. And I've used it. I publicly used it. I know that it's a crime, but I've used it in controlled settings. But if I wanted to stage a home invasion, I'd turn that on first. Yeah. And I've shown examples on social media with even smaller versions of this, which I want to show you because it relates to Iran and the drones. And I want to show you something interesting with that. But I showed a device similar to this that disabled my doorbells and disabled everything.

1:31:33by just clicking a button because it overwhelms that signal. And when the device doesn't have storage on it itself, like a lot of these new cameras, they rely on the cloud. If they can't connect to the cloud, then the storage, I'm sorry, then the footage never existed. So to repeat that, if you have a cloud-based camera or wireless camera, if it loses connection to the internet or the cloud, the videos are gone. The images are gone. There's no way to recover it. So if somebody gets a hold of a jammer or if you just happen to lose internet, you have no cameras anymore. You have no footage. You have no way to know somebody's approaching your house.

1:32:12Or if you weren't home, somebody entered your house. It's just as if it didn't happen. So using wired cameras is the solution to that problem. And that goes for, you know, I've shown some examples on the news with hacking garage doors and opening cars and being able to duplicate key fobs and, you know, capturing those signals out of the sky. You know, you would never know that that's happening. So your house, and I could go on a whole thing about safety with your house, but one little advice while it's on my mind is if your house is connected, I'm sorry, if your garage door is connected to your house and there's a door that enters your house from your garage, treat that door like it's your front door.

1:32:52Because I could be standing 100 feet, 200 feet away from your garage. And when you go and click that button in your car to open the door, I can capture the signal for a very large number of the manufacturers and I can forever gain access to your garage door. And I've demonstrated it over and over again in many different places. One of the largest streamers on the internet, Aiden Ross. I hacked his gate, same way. I have forever access to Aiden Ross's gate where he's got millions of dollars worth of merchandise, cars, and, you know, it's all with a simple gadget. So I want to show you that real quick.

1:33:30Sorry, I don't want to cut you. No, that's amazing. So just imagine that you're sitting in a Walmart parking lot as a criminal. You're a criminal and you're sitting in this parking lot. So I could be using a device like, which I'll explain what this is in a second, but this device, you could buy it. It's not going to do this out of the box. This is custom dark web firmware that's bought from Russians that, you know, it's, you know, right now, $2 ,900, I believe we didn't pay for it. We, like the people that gave it to me, hacked the hacked firmware. So it's like a double hack exception, but I got a hold of it that way.

1:34:10and let me just grab this key fob and I'll show you if there's battery in this key fob.

1:34:22Okay, three. Is that how people steal cars? So you can't steal a car with this, but you can get in the back seat of a car with this. You could, you know, okay, here we go. You cannot steal a car with with this you can but you can completely duplicate this key fob so i can pop the trunk i can and you know enable the alarm i can lock and unlock it all it takes is me just pressing any button on here it doesn't matter which button so uh can i show you can i come over there yeah

1:34:54so you see how it's it's saying fixed scan it's listening on this frequency here which usually key fobs are going to operate in either 315 megahertz or 433 megahertz um if i have that running at all times in a walmart parking lot like when i hit the lock button let's say this is the lock button every time i hit lock a new one comes up as you see so let's say i save this and if you look here it says kia hyundai which is what this is right here um and then if i just do let's just say but it's not working all right I'll just do zero one

1:35:49here we go so when I hit this so now I don't have the key fob anymore imagine I have 10 people that's walking out of Walmart they all click their key fob didn't matter what button they press they could have hit lock unlock whatever so I hit this that's lock unlock see how it says open there trunk and if you see here every single time that I click the button you see that number at the end is changing 155 1 1 f 7 1 6 e 1 c so it's going in sync with the key fob knowing what the next code is going to be. And all I need to do now is walk around the parking lot and start hitting the lock and unlock button and look for what car it was.

1:36:29So I could, you know, let's say it's Christmas or it says a holiday or let's say I'm a dangerous person. I could sit in the back seat of someone's car, wait for them to get in it and make someone's worst fear come true. That's amazing. So, you know, luckily, which I'll explain this over here. luckily this is not something that's easy to get your hands on right now um you can buy one of these devices for 170 bucks but it's not going to be much more than you know like something that could turn a tv on or off or like last night in in the place that you guys put me in i i hacked the uh the light in there like where i could turn the light on and off and i could you know change the the speed of the fan in the room um you know just just for fun you know i thought as much content as I can get out here, I'm going to do it.

1:37:16So, you know, this device can do that type of stuff, but it isn't going to open a garage door or hack a car like, you know, like I just showed you here. The same method with a garage door is identical to what I just showed you with this key fob. So my advice to everyone, including you, Tucker, is if your garage connects to your house, deadbolt that thing like it's your front door, because it just takes a sophisticated enough criminal to jam signals and then, you know, open your garage door and enter your house, you know? So I'm sure you're a believer in protecting yourself with firearms. That's the next step.

1:37:56You know, you take technology out and then, you know, then you have the hands-on and what your other solutions are, but... Yeah, firearms are the only technology I trust, just being honest. They work well, you know? They're better than 5G. They make bigger... I don't even trust Striker fire pistols. I'm a revolver guy. That's how. You could put a revolver right up against somebody. You don't have to worry about that. Well, that's the only distance I would be effective with a revolver because... That's why cops used them, right? Wasn't it? Well, they did use them, yeah. Then they were talked into the striker fire pistols in the early 90s and accidental shootings just went off the chart and, you know, whatever.

1:38:31I've got a lot of thoughts on ballistics. But yeah, no. But the point is, you know, you don't ever want to be in a position where you have to harm somebody. Of course, I'm opposed to that. but you can trust a revolver whereas you can't trust a security system. What is that? So this is called a Nyan box and this is an interesting convention. So friends of mine, there's this hacking conference in Vegas that happens every year called DEFCON and it's the largest one in the world. And 30 ,000 or so hackers go there from all over the world and they meet with each other. What's the bar scene like at night at the hacker conference?

1:39:07Oh my gosh. you can envision it already. I can't even imagine. Long hair, neck beards. Yeah, totally. Adult acne. It smells bad. Got it. It's exactly what you think it is. And there's furries there. You know what a furry is? No. Furry? A furry. Yeah, yeah. Or furries. I got the Delco accent. Yeah. But yeah, there's furries. There's some normal hackers out there. I like to consider myself a normal one. Maybe I'm not. But then there's some real nut jobs. Dude, you're at the high end of normal. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you very much. Not a furry? No. Okay, good. So I'm at DEF CON and a non-furry comes up to me and shows me this thing.

1:39:47And he was like, hey man, take this. It's 3D printed. I don't know if you know what a 3D printer is. Of course. It's this entire thing, even the multiple colors, 3D printed. I was like super impressed, especially with these ears because they're so, you know, like they feel like, well, I just broke it. But this side is strong. It was probably already broken. Whatever the case is, it's strong, 3D printed. I was like, wow, that's impressive. That's what I said to the guy. And then, you know, I didn't really know what he was giving me. I just put it around my neck because it came on a, you know, on a lanyard.

1:40:17And I turn it on later on and I see it's got all these crazy features. And I'll show you. So I'll read some of them so it makes sense to you. So it's Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and other. And I started to go through it. I'm like, wow, these guys thought of like everything. One second. What does it do? So I'm going to show you. It does a lot. And it's jam-packed into this tiny device that they put a couple different devices inside of and then 3D printed around it. So it's got a drone detector, a drone spoofer, Flock camera. Are you familiar with Flock? No. Flock are these cameras that are the United States.

1:40:54It's a private company. It's working with law enforcement. Oh, of course. Yeah. And they're taking people's license plates and they're storing this data that is invading, in my opinion, on everybody's privacy. So this is detecting flock cameras and flock devices. There's a device scout option on here that means it can track to see what devices could potentially be following or tracking you. So like if somebody was through a device in your car, this could tell you that that's happening without you having to physically find it. Because things can only track you in certain ways, whether it be cellular, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, or some type of EMFs are going to be coming off of that device.

1:41:34In this case, it's going to be looking for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. But what I think you'd be most interested in here is it can jam. So it can do the video cameras, remote control cars, you know, any type of signal Wi-Fi, but not as effective as that giant one I just pulled out. The drone detector and drone spoofer is something that I think is kind of interesting because this is a consumer device. You could buy this from them. They're willing to buy it. I'm sorry. They're willing to sell it to you on their website. And the first thought you probably are having is, why would they sell a device that can do these things?

1:42:10Because it can cause damage. It even has a body cam detector for Axiom, the brand police use for body cams. Why would somebody need something like this? And the answer to it is penetration testing goes good and bad. We have a company that people hire us to pretend like we are the hackers. we find all the vulnerabilities before an actual attacker does so that you can fix them. The point of this device is essentially the same thing. You're treating it, you know, you're treating the engagement as if it's a real one. So with the drone spoofer, for example, which I want to explain to you about this stuff because it's kind of wild.

1:42:50The drone spoofer, a counter UAS company reaches out to them. I don't know the name of the company, but I could find out for you. A counter UIS company that is working overseas asked for them to use one of these for drone spoofing. So counter UIS just means unmanned aircraft system. And when a bunch of drones are incoming, the goal is to know that that's about to happen. If you're using a device even as small as this, it overwhelmed their current system to the point where they couldn't determine whether it was real or fake drones. and it would be a, you know, not a good thing, but a great way to divert military because they're going to think we have a thousand drones coming from the North and here's the statuses of them.

1:43:36One's damaged, one's, you know, landing, one's going this, you know, 20 miles an hour. This one's going five miles an hour. This one's, you know, you can change the statuses and make it appear like these drones are doing all of these things because of this technology that exists. It's called Remote ID. and remote ID came into effect in 2024 in consumer drones. And it required that every single drone that's purchased, you know, obviously the government drones could differ, but any drones purchased at March, I believe of 2024 has to transmit the position of where the person is standing, the position of the drone, the speed, the altitude, and the serial number of the drone, which then could give you the name of the person that registered the drone in the first place.

1:44:24This device can determine that with any drone that's flying around you. So if you have some guy flying around your backyard with a drone, you could go show up at his house because you know exactly where he's standing and you can get his name if he registered it. And then, as I said, for the spoofing side of things, that could get really dangerous, especially... What does that mean, spoofing? It just creates the impression of something that's not actually there? Exactly. So on their UAS, on their screen, where it would look like their counter UAS system where it would look kind of like a radar with dots.

1:44:55Just imagine it being overwhelmed with dots. And then they don't know if it's real or not real. They get geared up as if it is real. And then drones come in from a different angle that are not detectable at all. So it's very dangerous. And I don't know what the solution to the problem is because there's companies like Andro out there that are flying drones in with fiber optic and optic cables that don't even need radio they have local ai on them um that uh that you know is making decisions on what parts of tanks to to hit to weaken them and has already been hit by this one or like if the drones work together um you know so i don't know exactly what the the solution to this problem is but uh but i do believe that knowing that it exists and uh and researching some of this technology especially for uh for our country is important because drones but it's not like these are a new thing like they They were called quadcopters when I was a kid, and they were hobbyists.

1:45:50They were a fun thing to do. And then as time went on, people started to weaponize them, and now they're part of war. And something as simple as a 3D-printed box given at a hacking convention can cause a big problem in the military. Well, yeah. And they're not just part of war. They are war. We're watching it today. What's that device right there? It looks like a transistor radio. So this pretty much is. partially what it is, it's a HackRF, which is just a, it does a ton of things, radio related only, which, you know, well, not just radio, I guess also some other bands because it's, without going into a whole radio nerd conversation, it's from one megahertz to six gigahertz.

1:46:31And I don't know if you know how big of a range that is, but it's huge. It's like the only device that I'm aware of that can do anything like that. But if you look in the receive, you'll see, I can look for airplanes, boats. I can even access the intercoms in a CVS and Walgreens. And like that thing is pretty wild. I could, over some of the older loudspeakers at fast food restaurants, I can talk through them and listen to them, you know, in the bars, touch tunes. So this, to summarize, gives you a readout of all the radio signals around you? Well, yeah. So it's going to receive or transmit. so you could either receive everything around you or transmit at a very large range and that is pre-programmed with some third-party firmware it's called the H4M or the Mayhem firmware it allows you to do some wild things like Harmless for example you're at a bar and you see the touch tunes machine that people pay to play music on that thing can take over the touch tunes add credits to it turn it off change the volume change the song you know just you know easy simple things or it could be more malicious where like i said hacking a garage door or a car or so so i just let me i just want to end on a philosophical question for you sure so you've just spent two hours describing like the darkest sides of consumer technology internet garage doors okay and i know that all of that technology has brought i guess at least theoretically brought great benefits to humanity.

1:48:08Whatever. You don't have to lift up your own garage door. I have manual garage doors for whatever it's worth. Do you really? Yes, I do. Wow. You're the first one I've ever met. Really? That's great. I'm glad. Yeah, I do. Yeah, lock them. Yeah. Or just live in a place with no crime. That's true. My solution. But all of that, you know, I can see the upsides to all of that stuff. But all of those consumer technology products have introduced massive vulnerabilities and control methods. They made us less free also. Agreed. And why didn't anyone mention that along the way? I remember when they were trying to sell us on the dishwasher you can control with your iPhone.

1:48:54Of course. And I was like, I'm happy to do it by hand. Yeah, I agree with that for sure. Yeah, the Internet of Things. In the end, are we going to look back on this period and think we were being softened up to surrender human autonomy to the machine? I think it's going to be worse than that because of AI. Yeah, I think because of AI and we're trying to get artificial general intelligence where AI has consciousness. And if we do achieve that state at any point. But my question is like, how vulnerable is the average homeowner living as he does surrounded by all these electronic devices that ultimately he doesn't have any control over but somebody else does like it seems like we put ourselves in quite a spot so there yeah we do and and there is some some modern solutions or modern problems you know and the more i see the jammer and i just want to set that off in my living room just to like stop it all yeah i'll buy one and secretly use it against myself yeah there you go yeah it's a good way to make sure you're not getting anything in or out yeah but um you know same with these faraday bags but like it stops it so your phone can't get or receive text like let's say you're going to a country or you're in a meeting or something and you don't want anything to go in or out like you could just bring something like this like without giving their company oh i have a million of them yeah okay i don't know what they are i don't use them anymore because I think it's useless and I think my phone's already controlled.

1:50:20So it's like, well, you've been hacked, you know, you, but to avoid being hacked, there's things you can do. And one thing that in my experience, cause I do it every day for a living is know what's out there on yourself. Know what your digital footprint is. Check out pen tester. Sorry for being that guy, but check out pen tester. Cause it's worth it. Throw in your email, like, you know, see what comes back. Spend a couple dollars to make sure that you're protected. Remove as much personal data about yourself as possible so you don't have to worry about somebody being able to find your address or find your information online.

1:50:55And then take some of the stuff that I'm showing you, these devices. As of right now, criminals are not, you know, super sophisticated, but these younger kids, they're growing up around computers and they're going to learn about this technology and this technology is only going to advance just continue to keep yourself in the loop and don't just be stagnant and think that this is never going to happen to you. Doesn't mean that it will, but don't be naive, you know? Is there any device, electronic device you would not bring inside your home? I mean, I would personally, even if I didn't like the device, I would put it on what's called a virtual LAN or similar to like a guest network, how it's like kind of segregated.

1:51:35You know, I'm not super concerned about it. I even have like a vacuum in my house right now that I know is sending data to a Chinese cloud server. I made a video about it and it went insane because, you know, it's China, a cloud server, people like that for whatever reason on the internet. And I still have the thing plugged in. I mean, I'm not worried about it because it's segregated on my network. And even if the thing goes rogue, which it may, it can't access anything else because it's digitally locked in its little sandbox. So you're not afraid that at one point the CCP is going to order it to vacuum you?

1:52:09Yeah, I might get my baby pinky toe or something, but that's about as bad as it can be. So there's no device that you would be personally afraid of having in your home? Maybe your cell phone. Yeah, I don't think you want my cell phone in your house. No, I don't want that one in there. Literally. Ryan, thank you for all of this. I'm going to be thinking about it for the next week, every second I wake up in the morning. That was really dark. I hope somebody does something about those groups. I am sorry, and I'm working as hard as I possibly can to do that. And I appreciate you letting me share that message on your platform because it means the world to me more than I can even put in words.

1:52:46Thank you. Thank you for doing this. Thank you.