Zelensky’s Press Secretary Returns From Exile With a Message for the Tyrant

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0:34so thank you for coming back and i just want to say i'm sorry i knew there would be repercussions for your first interview that you did earlier this year with us and apparently they were there were can you tell us what happened after that interview aired well yes um actually thank you for giving me the platform first time and now because uh right now ukrainians are facing huge censorship everywhere, thanks to Volodymyr Zelensky. And our interview, for me, was a trouble. I know that after our interview, Zelensky ordered to have some kind of so-called linguistic expertise. And this is a corrupt practice that exists in the government of Ukraine that helps them prove something that they want to prove to execute their political persecution.

1:25So this linguistic expertise is still ongoing. However, I'm already under sanctions. If this linguistic expertise is finished, I'm going to face the treason charges that in Ukraine under martial law can be from 15 years of prison to life sentence. So this is absolutely crazy. But let me explain why I am under sanctions. I was invited to have a speech in the European Parliament by the Alternative for Germany, AfD, one of the most actually popular party in Germany. And this was supposed to be a speech about the necessity of peace for Ukraine. We announced this speech, I think, approximately September 10th.

2:12And on the 15th of September, Zelenskyy introduced and imposed sanctions on me. so what happened next was that when I arrived to the European Parliament on September 16th when my speech needed to take place I was buried from entering the European Parliament and we were told they didn't know the reason but that personally Roberto Mazzola who is the head of the European Parliament banned me from entering they also tried to ban the video transmission and they did not allow to translate my speech into German and French. Thanks to AFD, we managed somehow technically to have video transmission and I even answered the questions.

2:56However, this shows a very huge problem because I had a lot of questions from Western journalists why Ukrainians don't speak about the necessity of peace. One journalist even told me that he had a feeling that no one in Ukraine except of Yulia Mandel wanted peace. But I see this growing tendency, and I'm sitting here absolutely sure that majority of Ukrainians want peace as soon as possible because I get enormous support from everywhere. But nobody sees that. And I thought that it was the problem. You know, Ukrainians didn't have enough people to talk, enough contacts, enough experience or skills to reach the bigger platforms.

3:40but it happens that there is just a censorship, a huge censorship. Nobody wants to listen to Ukrainians who call for peace. And this is, to be frank, this is so heartbreaking and so disappointing because Ukraine today is looking at European Union and the place of democracy or freedom of speech. But in fact, it is very far from the reality. yeah so I'm under sanctions what it means it means that I cannot make any financial operations in Ukraine no buying selling properties cars nothing my financial accounts are banned my business accounts are cancelled banned I cannot have any bank accounts today but there is another thing that Zelensky introduced in the sanctions my three accounts and social media it is Facebook Instagram and Axe.

4:38And he requested that these accounts are banned from Ukrainian audience, from the people who live in Ukraine. And if it's possible, I would really love to appeal, to address today to the people who work in Matter company and in Axe, not asking only for myself, but asking for all Ukrainians who are on systematic basis, are banned from talking to the Ukrainians in Ukraine. This happens all the time. I know the bloggers who repeatedly restart their pages because they call for peace and then the Ministry of Culture of Ukraine requests to ban their accounts from Ukrainians. And if it's possible, I just would like to underline that for Ukrainians today, social media is the only way actually to talk about peace.

5:33And if these accounts are banned, my accounts and accounts of other Ukrainians, then it actually disrupts any kind of communication. Because Ukrainians today discuss what are the possibilities of peace, how we see it, what are the issues for post-war Ukraine, what we can accept. This is the real matter. And I really would ask, you know, to be attentive to this, because this is our way to show the world, to show journalists, to show politicians that there is this necessity to have peace. It's such a remarkable story. I remember our interview very well. And in it, you spoke as a Ukrainian, as a Ukrainian nationalist, as someone who loves Ukraine, as someone who was very critical of Russia and Vladimir Putin.

6:22You spoke directly to Putin in the interview and not in a friendly way. You said, please stop. And so nothing you said, nothing I've seen you say is pro-Russian or anti-Ukraine. You're simply against watching your entire population, male population get killed. And so I don't understand how is that treason? Yes, so this is a very corrupt practice in Ukraine that actually allows the politicians to persecute disloyal people. And Zelensky doesn't want anyone to talk about peace because, you know, G.D. Vance once wrote a remarkable essay in the New York Times where he said that the math in Ukraine does not add up.

7:08And over two years have passed through that since that essay and the math in Ukraine still doesn't add up. We lose people every day. We lose territories every day. Just for you, the latest information that we got. The Prime Minister of Poland said that his Ukrainian colleagues told him that Ukraine loses killed and wounded 27 ,000 of soldiers monthly in the front line. Add to this only verified UN numbers of killed and wounded civilians, and it is around 3 ,000. So we get around 30 ,000 of Ukrainians, soldiers and civilians dead or wounded every month, right? It's a terrible number. And if you think about the number of population, in 35 years of independence, Ukraine has lost over half of its population, right?

8:00So to be frank, the war of attrition with Russia is nothing but suicidal policy, suicidal war. So I never justified what Putin has done. And I call this the crimes against humanity, and I will reiterate. His cruelty is unimaginable. But it does not mean that what Zelensky is doing is good for Ukraine. Because his policies are also suicidal, absolutely suicidal. So we counted the population in Ukraine. And right now, maximum, we have 4 million of men of conscription age. In Russia, there are 38, 42 million of men. So 10 times more. I mean, this is absolutely suicidal to continue this war. And let me say that many people who support Ukraine, they think that if Ukraine continues this war, we will stay independent and preserve our sovereignty.

8:55But this is very much vice versa, because we are following now Afghanistan paths. And if this war continues, We have many more chances to become a vassal state and actually to have enormous degradation of society, economy and everything than if we try to find realistic paths towards peace today and then try to restore our economy, our democracy, have elections, you know, try to return our people. And maybe later with time, if we have good diplomats at the table, maybe, you know, just maybe we will be able to return the territories. But right now, we're choosing between the territories and people.

9:35And we are losing both. But most importantly, we lose our people. So this was what I told in the European Parliament. And after that, Roberta Metzola sent her chief of staff to the AfD. He tried to apologize to the organizer from AfD, Hans Neukhov, and said that they were told that I'm going to spread Russian propaganda. I'm a Ukrainian patriot. I'm having a lot of support from Ukrainians from every region today, writing, you know, messaging, comments, everything. People wanted this to be out. And another point of this, before this speech was banned, I tried actually to reach the chief of staff of Roberta Masola.

10:23I wanted to talk to him. I was eager to show him this speech, but they didn't want to listen to anything. They just banned it based on getting information from Ukraine. Some Ukrainians were writing that this is personally Volodymyr Zelensky who asked Roberta Metzola to ban me from the speech. And now I'm facing a lot of attacks on social media. My accounts are being attacked. A lot of bots are there. You know, they're even trying to ban my Telegram channel. So I guess that there is a huge attention from the office of the president. All his, you know, talking heads, we were talking about talking heads, they are attacking me.

11:01But there is this fight, at least there is this fight. And I need to tell you that our interview really opened a lot of things for Ukrainians. I got a lot of thanks. A lot of bloggers started talking more about what they see around, about the necessity to stop the war. I got a lot of thanks. They said, thank you, Yulia, for your interview to Tucker Carlson. You opened our eyes. So I'm sitting here understanding that you are one of the few platforms where Ukrainians can scream about the necessity of peace just to preserve ourselves, ourselves as a nation, as a country, as an independent state. Lots of people are using peptides to get in shape.

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14:12Well, I think there's hundreds of thousands, hundreds of thousands. And don't forget about millions of families that have been destroyed because, you know, they've turned into refugees or they lost someone or there are people, you know, with lost limbs. And, you know, something also very disgusting happened on that day. So Ursula von der Leyen, the head of European Commission, at the same day, she decided to have a speech in the European Parliament too. and she invited a Ukrainian girl, 10-year-old girl who lost her limp due to Russian shelling. She's a dancer and she continues dancing. And Ursula von der Leyen showed this girl and made PR on her.

14:55And with this girl, she justified the necessity to continue the war. In Ukraine, it costs a lot of outrage because I look at this girl and this is the difference of perspective. I look at her and I beg to stop this war that Ukrainian children don't lose their limbs, eyes, you know. My parents are doctors at frontline regions and the stories that they tell about children, you know, that they get in the hospitals, they are terrified, like, you know, wound in the head or a lost hand, or for instance, a 23 days old girl that was killed due to Russian shelling. And again, I'm not minimizing Russia's guilt.

15:37The thing is that if we want to preserve Ukraine, Ukrainian nation, we need to think about realistic ways of how to stop this war. But what I see Zelensky is doing, he keeps changing the conditions for the peace. And he also introduces so maximally unachievable ways for the peace that I don't believe that he wants to get it at all. there have been calls uh from some in the neoconservative foreign policy community here in the united states and in europe to start drafting women because so many ukrainian men have been killed draft ukrainian women and send them into the meat grinder is that a popular idea in ukraine do you think uh it's not popular idea to fight at all neither for men nor for women It caused a lot of hatred, a lot of outrage, and to be frank, a lot of desire to leave the country.

16:35I will just remind you that after our interview, I cannot return to Ukraine because there is a huge attention to that question. However, I believe that if they move with further mobilization of women and lowering the conscription age, there could be really a revolution. and Ukrainians are at the verge. Let me just describe you a few facts about how the forced mobilization is happening. So by ombudsman data, only 2-3 % of men have been forcefully conscripted to the front line actually get to the fight. All others pay bribes. We count it and the conservative only count of the bribes that exist in the sector of forced mobilization to avoid front line can reach up to$5 billion annually.

17:28This is enormous corruption. And this is so enormous corruption that we understand that it is covered from the top. It cannot just exist on the middle or low level. Another thing that was discovered after our interview was that actually in conscription offices, there are torture, beating. Some men die. And this is so inhuman. Actually, on the streets of Ukraine today, women defend men. There is fighting sometimes. Sometimes men need to use their weapons against the state that tries to drag them to the front line or demand bribes. And there is a huge opposition towards both the war and Zelensky's government.

18:14It is so terrible. So many men, they even do not get out of their house for weeks, months. and some men sit in their houses for years just to, you know, not to be grabbed on the street, not to be beaten, not to be tortured and not to be sent to the front line. I cannot imagine. This is my country. This is so painful. I cannot imagine how anyone could say this is Russian propaganda. This is everywhere. Every Ukrainian is standing against it. And I'm here to beg you to understand that only finishing this war can preserve Ukraine as a nation and the state. We have been told in the West that democracy, Ukraine, is fighting tyranny, Russia.

19:03But there are no elections for president in Ukraine. How do you think if Zelensky were to allow an election, if he were to stand for election, let voters decide whether to keep him in office, would he win that election? You know, I will tell you that inside that today was out, but I knew this earlier. In July or June, Zelensky was thinking about conducting elections, but he actually didn't want to have free elections. He wanted to have them manufactured. So he invited the former commander-in-chief and his chief of staff who enjoy some kind of rating today in Ukraine and asked them not to run for presidency, but to support him as the only candidate for the potential alliance.

19:48And at least one of them refused. And under any circumstances, it doesn't matter how corrupt the elections in Ukraine today are, Zelensky doesn't have chances to win them. So he understood that he will lose elections. And now we hear the public statements that we cannot just conduct the elections. We have a lot of people out of the country. Then the next reason, we have soldiers who cannot vote in front line. Then the next reason, we have a lot of shelling, so we cannot organize elections. So he will be coming up with any kind of reason to explain to the public why elections are not possible. But I will remind your audience that for today, he's standing in power for seven and a half years.

20:32And for him, finishing this war is a suicidal policy because this is a political suicide. He's not going to stay in power. This war gives him money, gives him power, and gives him red cardboards and the fame that he enjoys. Why doesn't the United States, which is making this war possible through the targeting information it gives the Ukrainian military from our intelligence agencies, why doesn't the Trump administration force Zelensky to leave? He's not an elected leader. He's eliminated civil liberties, freedoms in Ukraine. Why not just tell him to leave and have an election? Russia had wartime elections.

21:10You can have wartime elections. It happens all the time. Why don't they do that? I cannot answer for President Trump, but maybe he doesn't want to meddle in the politics of another country. The problem is that since the last time we talked, President Zelensky changed the strategy and he convinced the Western partners to have escalation. And this escalation has worsened situation in Ukraine enormously. So for us, for Ukrainians, it was really very weird to read the American news for the first half of summer where American media outlets were saying that Ukraine is winning the war because we never have been even close to winning the war.

21:59We were suffering and in July we had the record of civilian deaths and wounded people since May 2022. Actually, what happened, Russia started destroying our warehouses. We have over 90 % of warehouses destroyed with all the everyday needs that, you know, Ukrainians, as ordinary people use, including food, including, you know, clothes, including gadgets and many other things. We have destroyed gas stations, we have enormous ruins in energy infrastructure, etc., etc. So what Ukrainians are expecting is actually a humanitarian catastrophe in winter. And many are leaving today, so the West should expect more refugees.

22:45And to be frank, it is very inhuman to not accept them. Because I don't know how people will be surviving without heat, without light, without food. in the country under shelling with autocratic ruling where people can be grabbed on the streets and sent to the front. Most people don't like thinking about life insurance. It's one of those topics you tend to kind of put off. But if you're married, you've got kids, you've got people who depend on you, you probably should think about what would happen if you weren't around. And that's why we've partnered with Ethos. They've made getting life insurance super easy.

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25:16But just for your audience to explain how the distribution of aid for Ukraine works. So for instance, if we are promised 45 billion of euro per year, like 30, for instance, 30 billion of this money goes to drone production or weapons production. And majority of this money doesn't go to Ukraine, it goes to the countries who actually distribute the money. So like Ryan Meadow, for instance, or French producers. So these weapons producers really enjoy enormous amounts of money. And to be frank, as a PR person, I was following this enormous PR happening in media. And I think that if we follow the money, we can explain a lot of things happening.

26:01Like for instance, just before NATO summit in Ankara in July, there were all these messages that Ukraine was winning the war. And then Mark Reuter announced 140 billion euro of aid. And in a week, we didn't get any more messages about Ukraine winning. And in two weeks, we started getting messages that Ukraine is losing, Ukraine doesn't have interceptors, we're having humanitarian catastrophe approaching, etc., etc., etc. Then at the end of summer, we started reading a lot of news about starting off World War III, about Russia trying to attack NATO countries, though a lot of NATO officials were saying that they don't see any kind of preparation for this.

26:44And again, I don't want anyhow to flatter Russia or to justify what it is doing, but it is very strange to hear that the country that cannot cope with Ukraine, that is not in NATO, not in EU, and doesn't have even its own economy, would want to attack NATO countries. So then we understood that at the same time when there are these media headlines, there is a discussion of the next seven-year budget from 2028 to 2034. And of course, the defense budget, they are very tasty. So perhaps European Union just wants to preserve those defense budgets and to preserve them. They need to justify in the media and today people why their defense budgets are so huge.

27:32So they say about the World War III, you know, they escalate the rhetoric. I'm just afraid where it will lead over us. Because when I see the taste of Europeans towards the war, I don't believe that Europeans want to fight. And actually the rating of Mr. Mertz, for instance, recordly low, 10%, and getting lower and lower. Tell us about that. And then we have the AfD party that promotes peace. And they break the record of popularity because people don't want war. People want their leaders to talk to Russia. People want their leaders to guarantee that there will be no war. And as a Ukrainian, I will tell you that many Westerners, ordinary people, they look at this war as Hollywood movie.

28:19And it is not. It is a disaster. It is a degradation of morality, of humanity. It is death. It is the worst thing that could happen to you. I'll remind you the story how one American professor advised an American student to go to the front line in Ukraine. The guy went there. He was shocked from the reality. He pled to get him out. And the professor just sent, everyone of us makes history in their own place. What is that? I mean, how many professors there in America actually try to send your students to the war? Don't do that. Help us stop the war. Yeah. Well, how many professors in the United States are serving on the front lines of the Ukraine war?

29:05How many neoconservative think tank employees are doing that? Is Zelensky volunteering to go fight his own war? Of course not. None of the people pushing this war are putting their own lives at risk. They're destroying an entire population for money, popularity, power, but none of them are willing to die for it. Other people die for it. If I may add, when Zelensky was not the president, he was invited to join the front line in Donbass for four times. And he did not do that. He declined. He avoided conscription. And now he is grabbing men on the street and sending them forcefully to the front line.