In short
Roman Abramovich’s rise from extreme poverty in Soviet Russia to becoming an oligarch, then his move into English football ownership with the purchase of Chelsea (part one).
Guest backgrounds
The episode is hosted by Jack and Zach (The Upshot). No additional named guests appear in the provided transcript.
Key claims
Abramovich is portrayed as a “rags to riches” entrepreneur (not a “nepo baby”), who built wealth through contraband and oil trading during perestroika, including alleged diesel theft using forged documents (briefly imprisoned; charges dropped after reimbursement). He becomes tightly linked to Boris Yeltsin and is described as “Yeltsin’s cash handler,” later backing Vladimir Putin. In the 1990s, the aluminium business is claimed to have had murders “every three days,” with violence allegedly ending after Abramovich’s group gains control. He buys Chelsea in 2003 for £140 million and is said to have been a cautious, security-focused owner.
Notable examples
rubber ducks and American jeans used to win over Yeltsin; the rigged auction for Sibneft (half acquired for just over $100 million vs $2.7B market value); Abramovich’s Kremlin-adjacent apartment; Putin gift of a $57M yacht; Chelsea signings (McAlealy, Crespo, Joe Cole, Duff, Mutu) and Mourinho’s arrival in 2004.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Rise of Roman Abramovich
1:51 to 4:32
Discover Abramovich's early life and his rise from poverty to wealth.
“We are talking about one of the big beasts of football ownership here.”
A Challenging Upbringing
4:32 to 6:34
Understand the hardships Abramovich faced during his childhood.
“and it was a seriously tough upbringing.”
Entrepreneurial Spirit in Youth
6:34 to 8:01
Learn about Abramovich's early business ventures and street smarts.
“It's like, yeah, we're, we're moving house.”
The Business Empire Grows
8:01 to 13:36
Follow Abramovich's early business success and rise in the oil industry.
“But all the while he's got these side hustles going on, little side businesses.”
Controversies and Legal Troubles
13:36 to 14:00
Examine the controversies surrounding Abramovich's rise to wealth.
“But it's traced back to him, and he's arrested.”
The Rise of Roman Abramovich
14:00 to 17:00
Learn about Abramovich's early business ventures and connections with influential oligarchs.
“Presuming Russian jails are quite tough places to be there.”
The Networking Cruise and Oil Ambitions
17:00 to 19:25
Discover the significance of the networking event that launched Abramovich's ambitions.
“He's like, do you guys need any pots and pans?”
The Mysterious Death of the Refinery Manager
19:25 to 22:31
Examine the suspicious circumstances surrounding the refinery manager's death and its implications.
“The official cause of death is recorded as a heart attack.”
Corruption and the Rigged Auction
22:31 to 24:42
Understand the corrupt dealings that led to Abramovich acquiring a major oil company for a fraction of its worth.
“I think they couldn't have raised a billion, but he could have been like half 10 % for the same amount of money.”
The Emergence of Abramovich as a Billionaire
25:38 to 28:00
Learn about Abramovich's rise to fame and his cautious approach to public life amidst growing wealth.
“Start selling on Depop, where taste recognizes taste.”
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Faked Murders and Power Dynamics
28:00 to 29:15
Explore the bizarre admission of faked murders in Russia and their implications.
Abramovich's Rise in Business
29:15 to 31:16
Learn how Abramovich gained control over major industries in Russia.
“So he now owns all the oil company and the...”
Political Connections and Corruption
31:16 to 32:43
Discover how Abramovich's close ties to Yeltsin shielded him from prosecution.
“Presumably the president lives in the Kremlin?”
Compromat: Blackmail in Russia
32:43 to 34:18
Uncover the role of compromising material in Russian politics.
“is one of the big ones they're going for.”
Abramovich's Political Immunity
34:18 to 35:51
Examine how Abramovich's political career provided him protection.
“It seems to always be a sex thing as well.”
Backing Putin: A Strategic Move
35:51 to 37:14
Learn how Abramovich aided Putin's rise and shaped Russian politics.
“We're looking at a picture of him on a motorbike.”
The Fallout of Political Alliances
37:14 to 39:40
Understand the repercussions of Abramovich's choices regarding Berezovsky.
“end of the 20th century, Roman recommends Putin and really backs him for power.”
Abramovich's Ventures into Football
39:40 to 42:00
Dive into Abramovich's transition to the world of football in the UK.
“What people say is the reason he succeeded while this failed was all the other oligarchs were really loud mouth and demanding and he's just very quiet, very loyal.”
Roman Abramovich's Arrival at Chelsea
42:00 to 44:30
Learn about Roman Abramovich's initial involvement with Chelsea and the rapid changes he brought to the club.
“And Ken, I can't believe his luck really when this oligarch rocks up.”
Early Years and Fan Reactions
44:30 to 47:48
Explore Abramovich's early years at Chelsea and how fans reacted to his presence and spending.
“Do you remember it was like a month from him buying it to the end of the transfer window?”
Mourinho's Impact and Management Style
47:48 to 50:38
Understand the influence of José Mourinho on Chelsea and the changes in management dynamics.
“I mean, Litvin Yanko caused quite a sturd, didn't it?”
Tabloid Scandals and Player Behavior
50:38 to 56:00
Delve into the off-field controversies surrounding Chelsea players during Abramovich's era.
“Slightly dubious sources of money and sexy managers.”
The Extravagance of Sushi Deliveries
56:00 to 57:29
Learn about Roman Abramovich's lavish sushi takeaway orders and their costs.
“He does get a bit less picky about his food.”
Russian Oligarchs and Chain Restaurants
57:30 to 59:25
Explore the peculiar dining preferences of Russian oligarchs and their meeting spots.
“I guess sushi does, if you're in an air-conditioned plane and limo...”
Abramovich's Interior Design Fiasco
1:01:27 to 1:03:48
Uncover the story of Abramovich's failed statue installation and its aftermath.
“Anyway, back at Chelsea, despite all the success, Roman and Jose's relationship starts to deteriorate.”
The Fallout with Mourinho
1:03:49 to 1:05:18
Discuss the deterioration of Abramovich and Mourinho's relationship and its consequences.
“But there's this infamous game against Rosenborg early in the 07-08 season where the grounds are full, Chelsea only draw.”
Transcript
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1:51Welcome back to The Upshot. My name is Jack. Hello, Zach. Hi, Jack. We are talking about one of the big beasts of football ownership here. Certainly is. The biggest, really. Probably the most iconic football club owner ever, really. Yeah. He sort of invented football as we know it now, right? Before him, it's, you know, you've got millionaires owning clubs, but it's like, it's the guy who owns the local car factory, basically. He's sort of Jack Walker, Ken Bates. Yeah. English yeah this is he was the first I don't know if he was exactly the first foreign owner but this was the first time that foreign money started coming into English football at least and after him you get Man City you get PSG you get you know shakes getting into football who pay for influencers to poo on their chests normally for fun yeah I've gone there ruining our game yeah ruining the beautiful game it is kind of the beginning of foreigners spoiling the beautiful game Yeah.
2:49So stop the Jets. Stop the private Jets. Yeah, this is actually the beginning of the upshot stop the Jets campaign, which we're hoping to have adopted by a major political party. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if he spoiled, I guess he kind of did spoil football. I mean, it depends who you're a fan of, really. I think Chelsea fans would disagree. It just ushered in a new era. Because when you had the 90s era when big Sky TV money and sponsorships started coming. And that was like a step up. But this was like stratospheric in terms of the money being available to football clubs. It was fun when he did it, though.
3:29Do you know what I mean? When Man City and even like Newcastle, PSG, and all that stuff, it's not fun. But when he was the first, it was like, fucking hell, 17 million for Damien Duff? I mean, the thing is that he is sort of, as we'll tell in the story, He's sort of a self-made multi-billionaire. Obviously, he had a lot of help from certain figures within the Russian state. But in the way that PSG and Newcastle and Man City, they feel like they're state-owned projects, which takes a bit of the romance out of it. Whereas Abramovich is a businessman, essentially. Yeah, okay. I buy that. He's not an Epo, baby.
4:10I mean, as you just mentioned, his early life and how he made his billions is fucking mental. Yeah. I didn't realize how much of a rags to riches story. Probably the most extreme rags to riches story you can possibly imagine, really. Maybe that there's ever been. Should we do it? Let's get into it. Yeah. So Roman, he was born in 1966 in a city called Saratov on the Volga River, not far from Stalingrad. and it was a seriously tough upbringing. The family was pretty dirt poor really. So when his mum got pregnant again after him, she decided she'd have a dodgy backstreet abortion because she basically couldn't afford to have a kid and this was a very dodgy abortion.
4:58She ends up dying from it as a result and a few months later, Roman's dad gets run over by a truck.
5:08He's He's an orphan and he's raised by his uncle in this freezing cold oil town in the north of Russia. I think that is a good move because I think it's Saratov that it was basically the chemical weapons capital of Russia. Oh, really? In the Soviet era. It was like where they made fucking ricin, sarin gas. And I think it's considered the dirtiest city in the world. Really? Yeah, it's poison living there. Yeah. Closed to foreigners during the Soviet era as well. Really? Wow. No game. Yeah, I think, I mean, the town that he moved to wasn't a postcard either, I don't think. This like super industrial oil town in the north of Russia, in the Arctic Circle, freezing cold.
5:50Even before that, his family history was pretty bleak, pretty entwined with Soviet history as well. So his dad grew up in a Stalinist gulag in Siberia. Only got out in the mid-50s. Grew up in it? grew up in it so so the family um his his side of the family was from lithuania uh or lived in lithuania and in during the stalin stalinist purges they were labeled capitalists and the whole family was sent to prison camps in siberia in 1941 when they were a child when they were a child and they separated the family as well so so mom dad and the kids all went to different different gulags in siberia yeah uh his his dad roman's grandfather died there in 1942 42.
6:34Quite mental. It's like, yeah, we're, we're moving house. Where are we going? You're going to a different one to mom and dad as well. Like B7. Okay. So it was a harsh, he's not a Neppo baby. He's not a Neppo. He's the opposite of a Neppo baby. Um, but from a very young age, Roman had a real entrepreneurial spirit. So as a teenager, he was selling gasoline, selling cigarettes on the streets in, in Okta, the town where he was from, where he grew up uh he does a brief stint in the army where he has a pretty lucrative sideline selling stolen gasoline to army officers so i've got a picture of him in the army here in his in his wow you can see skin hat so how old's he's early 20s there i think he's in his late teens i think when he's when he's in the army um but you know he had this this lucrative sideline going but even at this young age he's very good at keeping his own hands clean so he'd worked out this whole scheme he basically convinced the the military drivers the ones who drove the trucks that sort of thing to siphon fuel off from the tanks of their trucks and then leave it in canisters hidden in the forest and he then recruited another team who'd collect it under cover of darkness and sell it at the barracks so they're just selling them back their own their their fuel yeah essentially yeah but to the officers and he incentivized the accomplices that he'd recruited with they got a bit of a cut of the profits but apparently also with ice cream and pastries um soviet russia i mean it was probably probably pretty hard to come by in a military base a lot of snow around yeah um so he has that that while he's in the army and after leaving he trains as an engineer and briefly has a job as a mechanic at a local factory.
8:23But all the while he's got these side hustles going on, little side businesses. And him and his first wife, Olga, end up moving to Moscow where they set up a toy company selling rubber duck, selling dolls. and when they the pair of them get married Olga's parents gift the gift the new couple 2 000 rubles as a wedding present which you know i think they're probably expecting to they'll maybe spend on a new car or a nice set of le crusade saucepans but instead Roman uses it to buy up a load of contraband so American jeans deodorant perfume and he expands the business selling those so they travel back and forth from the town where he was from in the north a thousand miles from moscow selling these products uh where they're pretty hard to come by american jeans or rubber ducks for that because american jeans is is always the like thing people mention it's like super popular but yeah yeah rubber ducks are they just i i don't know maybe that was yeah sort of thing I think pretty exciting we talked about how the most popular toy in what was it 1982 or something like that was the first indoor ball world's first world's first indoor ball nerf ball nerf ball that was it yeah it's a foam ball that was flying off the shelf so you can imagine you see a rubber duck that's like PS5 back in back in Siberia squeak Soviet Siberia squeaky rubber duck I'm picturing you know Which Which Which Holocaust film is it That's in black and white But they only occasionally Show the girl In like the red jacket I don't know Schindler's List probably Yeah And I'm sort of picturing Soviet Russia being like that Everything's greyscale And then this rubber duck Like this shining Yellow beacon Of modernity I think that's pretty Pretty much it So he's back and forth From Moscow a lot Flogging this This shit It's absolutely It's brick a brick They can't get enough of it You know that shop on your road that sells fucking everything?
10:34It's got remote controls. It's got mops. Washing up buckets. Yeah, it's got a few videos. He's that guy. Plastic flowers. There's one near me called Wizard Video, and he has all of it. I think Roman Abramovich is the Wizard Video of Uktar. Anything you ask for, they've got, but it's always quite low quality. You're going to come back two days later when it's the plastic bit that's supposed to move snapped. and you're not getting a refund. The beak falls off the duck. Yeah. So his wife describes him as a workaholic. So he's, you know, that's, he loves it really. When he's not working, he's out at parties, going bowling with his business pals.
11:16Feels quite Soviet Russia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, just always making connections really. She also though suspects that on the side, he's also seeing other women, which is part of the reason why they divorce in 1989. He remarries very quickly. A year later, he marries an air hostess called Irina who he'd met on his travels. He chirpsed her on the air of that fight, didn't he? Do you find that's quite a... You hear that story a lot about couples where someone was an air hostess and someone else chatted them up and now they're married for 20 years. And I was thinking, I really can't imagine chatting up an air hostess.
11:57Yeah, I mostly travel Ease Jet and Ryanair where they're pretty... Then you get slapped. Often, I don't, yeah. Yeah, this was glamorous. They're not in a good mood. I reckon, yeah, the sort of... If you're a successful businessman on the flights that Roman's on... But is he in this point? I mean, at this point, he's got... He's loaded up the overhead thing with rubber ducks. He's got American jeans on, which is... He's got American jeans, which is cool. Which is hot, yeah. That's really hard. Yeah. Yeah. So business is doing well, and gradually Roman's wealth begins to spread. So at various points, he invests in pig farms, timber, private security, and eventually oil.
12:44So the expansion of his business empire, this is the late 80s, and it coincides with this era of perestroika, is that how you pronounce it? Yeah. in Russia, where basically private business, rules on private business were relaxed. Opening up. Opening up. It was sort of the lead up, really, to the end of the Soviet Union. But this enabled Roman to grow his private wealth in a way that wasn't possible before. I've got to say, though, he didn't do everything above board. So in 1992, 55 tankers of diesel worth 3.8 million rubles disappeared while it was en route from the Ukta oil refineries, the town where Roman grew up, on its way to Poland.
13:28And an investigation later discovers that Roman Abramovich had used forged documents to intercept the train, redirect it to a military base, and steal the fuel. I say Abramovich used forged documents. I assume it was some of his minions. But it's traced back to him, and he's arrested. and very briefly imprisoned for it. Well, how long are we talking? I think he's being questioned, basically, but he's kind of kept in a cell. So on the upshot bank of the card, stints in the slammer, tick. Presuming Russian jails are quite tough places to be there. Yeah, although if his dad spent 15 years in a gulag, maybe he's built for it.
14:13In the meantime, though, an anonymous donor reimburses the oil refinery for the missing diesel and the charges against Abramovich are dropped, which is nice. His lawyers later describe the incident as a misunderstanding. So he paid them off, maybe. Essentially, he or somebody paid him off. And it certainly doesn't slow him down because in this era, early 90s, Roman starts forging closer ties with Europe. he sets up this oil trading company starts exporting to Romania and Moldova should say he's still in his 20s at this point doing very well but he's still operating out of this little office underneath a football stadium but he is about to hit the big time he really is because in December 1994 he is invited on this Caribbean cruise for sort of upcoming Russian businessmen who are all movers and shakers in this brave new world.
15:15A networking event. Yeah, it's a networking event. Among the people attending is oligarch Boris Berezovsky. So Boris, he's the one on the cruise everyone wants to meet. He's one of the most powerful men in Russia at this point. He owns huge amounts of the car industry. He owns one of the biggest TV channels in Russia. And he's managed to carve this path where he's friendly with both the Kremlin, where Boris Yeltsin is in charge and organised crime figures who are, they're extremely powerful. Post-communist Russia is a bit of a power vacuum and all these gangsters have come into it. So you need to have them on side.
15:51Sounds terrifying. Yeah, it does sound terrifying. Well, listen to this because he's not on good terms with all of them. So only a few months before this cruise, Berezovsky had been badly burned in a car bomb attack that killed his driver. Wow. So he's really living at the sort of sharp end of it all. Anyway, at this networking event on this cruise, everyone's jostling to try and chat to Berezovsky. It's like he's the guy. And eventually Roman gets his chance. He's been planning it for ages. He gets a few minutes with Boris, and he pitches him this idea of building a big oil conglomerate. So take Roman's oil business, take all the state oil businesses, put them together and make this massive company that can then make loads of money.
16:34And apparently Berezovsky loves it. He loves to cut up Roman's jib. And it's weird because Abramovich is not, he's not a loud mouth. He's shy and quiet. That's what everyone says. Yeah. Reading things, people said they met him for the first time. I forget who it was. Was it Yeltsin or someone? He had this, this big meeting and they shook hands with about three other people as they were part of his entourage before they realized who Roman was. Cause he's, he's just in like American jeans probably. Just like, I'm like, tatty cardigan. He's like, do you guys need any pots and pans? barbecue tongs
17:13do you want this bird that just pecks don't know what it's for who's the guy with all the tat opens his coat and it's all this just like unmarked perfume bottles he's kind of the no spray no lay guy trying to palm his tat off on you yeah he's very what's the word like unprepossessed Yeah, he's... He doesn't make an obvious splash, but that actually ends up being one of his biggest strengths. But he has got something about him. He's clearly really good at making these relationships. And I think there's a quality in his face that's really trustworthy. Yeah, he's got nice eyes. He's got like kind cow eyes and then long lashes.
17:56He doesn't look threatening, which I think is... A lot of people say that is part of his genius, that he's... You know, all the other oligarchs are sort of big barking dogs and he's the loyal one who's just quiet. Yeah. We're looking at a picture of him there. He's quite an attractive man, I think. Smash it. Anyway, so Boris loves the idea and he's like, Roman, I like you. Let's go fucking do this. And so they go back to Russia with this plan to try and take over all these oil companies. Among their target acquisitions is this refinery in Siberia, which is run by this very crusty old manager who's been there since Soviet era.
18:35and he's like still running it all, you know. Yeah, big handlebar moustache. Yeah, still talking about - Hair coming out of his ears. Output quotas. What's your five-year plan, Robin? Exactly, whereas these guys are the buccaneering capitalists who are just like, if it feels good, do it, mate. Build it and it'll come. This refinery manager has already turned down multiple offers from other Russian businessmen to take over his refinery. He's not interested. He wants to keep it going. He thinks it being part of a big company, he's not interested. But that problem does fade away a little bit when in August 1995, this refinery manager, he's being driven by his personal driver when he asks the guy to drop him on the banks of the Ertisch River.
19:19And it's in that river that he's later found drowned. The official cause of death is recorded as a heart attack. Makes sense. So I for one believe that. Good enough for me. I was reading this Earthish river it's not like you know tranquil peaceful like birds birds flying by it's like one of the most polluted rivers there it was just like I'm picturing hydroelectric dam and then just so can we just stop here I just want to take in take in there's like nappies floating down you know if you stand next to that for more than an hour you will get poison breathing in the fumes just wanted a nice relaxing stroll yeah he sleeps with the three-eyed fishes now um anyway not long after this guy's mysterious death and there is genuinely no no evidence to suggest he was murdered or who could have been involved but not long after that his refinery is indeed put up for sale that's i mean it's just you know it's what we would have wanted it's basically part it's part of this uh formation of this huge new oil company called Sibneft, which is, it's mainly oil companies that are owned by the state all merged together in one massive company, which is sort of what is the idea that Roman's been pitching to Boris.
20:40And it's announced that this is going to be auctioned off, but you know, this isn't your typical auction. It's a little bit rigged. And basically the game is, can you persuade the Russian regime to let you win the rigged auction. And so Boris Berezovsky, he has a direct relationship with the president, Boris Yeltsin, and he and Roman spend months haggling with Yeltsin to basically say, let us win the auction. And it takes a long time to persuade him, but eventually he agrees. And then they have to spend ages actually raising the money. But finally, the auction runs. It's rigged in their favor.
21:18and Roman and Boris acquire half of this huge new oil company for just over$100 million, which, just to give you a comparison, apparently the actual market worth was about$2.7 billion. That is insane. So, I mean, the Russian state at this point, they're just selling off their assets, right? But you're wondering why. Surely you can get more than, if it's worth$2.7 billion, why? So why so cheap, basically? The reason is that Boris Yeltsin, he is really paranoid about losing political power. The communists have been winning parliamentary elections, and there's a big feeling that they might get back in power.
21:56So A, he thinks he's going to be pushed out of power, and B, he thinks that communism could return and they'll never privatize Russia, which to the extent that he has any goals for wider Russia, he does want that. So Boris Yeltsin basically says, I will rig this in your favor, and in return, I want some personal kickbacks and I want massive campaign funds for my re-election campaign to cement my power. It's just corruption. Yeah, it's true. So it's personal corruption and it's to cement his political power, basically by having these rich allies who will support him. I still think he could have sold it.
22:33Surely more than 100 million. Or keep a bit of it. Just be like, give me 1 billion. Yeah. Surely that's still an unbelievable... I think they couldn't have raised a billion, but he could have been like half 10 % for the same amount of money. Yeah. He was famously hammered for the whole time, wasn't he, Yeltsin? He's an alcoholic. Yeah, of course. Yeah, 100 million. Whatever. Yeah. I think a lot of vodka was drunk during these meetings. Roman doesn't drink, is he? No, he doesn't drink. So he's the sensible man in the room. Meanwhile, Yeltsin's best cunted. Yeah, just write down the zeros. I should say, to be fair, It wasn't as easy as it sounds from Abramovich's perspective.
23:16There were thousands of Russian businessmen trying to pull these things off. Because this is the birth of the oligarchs. This happens in several industries, and it just newly minced these billionaires. But there were loads of people trying who couldn't persuade the regime to pick them or couldn't raise the funds or whatever. So it wasn't simple, but it was fucking mental. He's a good talker. He's a charmer, isn't he? Yeah, he's brilliant at making these relationships. and so suddenly he's one of the world's richest men just overnight but he threw a few rubber ducks into the Yeltsin couldn't get enough of the rubber ducks has your wife seen these Miss 60 jeans yeah then the duck comes out just squeak squeak and Yeltsin's like salt pouring himself in vodka you know those those shops also the other tap they sell is like shot glasses with like Homer Simpson on them perhaps this will sweeten the deal President Yeltsin you got yourself a deal have you seen this lighter that's shaped as a machine gun tequila roulette
24:29look have you seen this grinder with bender from Futurama on it the air fryer finally seals the deal and yeah Yeah, he's one of Russia's richest men at this point. You don't wash your jersey during a win streak. You don't switch seats when your team's up big. And you definitely don't shave during the playoffs. When things are working, you don't change them. That's why when you drink Jägermeister, you drink it ice cold. Anything else? Well, that'd just be bad luck. Drink it cold or don't drink it at all. Jägermeister. Damn, that's cold. Drink responsibly. Jägermeister liqueur, 35 % alcohol by volume.
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26:08Marvel television's Daredevil Born Again, now streaming only on Disney+. So apparently, suddenly he's really famous in Russia, because they're like, who is this new billionaire? He's talked about loads in the press. This is a period of relative openness in the press. But Abramovich himself is really secretive. So he's like, at this point, he's like, I don't want anyone to know who I am. I'm going to be a top, you know, organized crime are really powerful and dangerous at this point. So he doesn't allow any photos of himself to be taken. and when the press talk about him, they have to use drawings, which is fucking bitch.
26:42At one point, a TV channel holds a competition for a photo of Roman Abramovich with like a 40 grand prize or something. Wow, that's very impressive to actually keep that much of a low profile. Apparently a lot of people in Russia at this point, it's like a commonly held belief that Roman Abramovich doesn't exist. He's more of an idea. He's more of a folk figure based on a number of different characters. It's a composite figure. Anyway, as for Roman, he's still thinking, how can I go bigger? You know, some of us would be happy with 2.7 billion. But you don't get to be Roman Abramovich with thinking like that.
27:18And he decides the next industry he wants a piece of the pie in is aluminium, which is actually a very dangerous place to go. So Abramovich himself said that during this period, the late 90s, every three days someone was murdered in the aluminium business. Wow. Because basically there's no one's like won it yet. So there's all these mafia gangsters like whacking these business leaders or like these loose allegiances. It's a civil war basically on a small scale, all vying for control. There's one big player. I think his name is Bykov. He actually does own a big chunk of the industry. But then suddenly he's arrested for murdering two men.
28:01there is one small problem with these charges turns out that neither of the two men were actually dead and this I find mad in 2000 the prosecutors admit that they actually faked the whole thing they're just like yeah we just made it up yeah we made that murder up I mean if you're making it up at least find some people who have died yeah kill them just kill some randoms frame him for it or kill him yeah push him in there take him for a walk along the yeah the river go river it's lovely this time of year i find that one mental but what i find most mental about that is them then admitting it but i think it's like this thing in 90s and noughties right pre putin russia is that like the power dynamics change and suddenly the people who were in power are like on the other side and then are forced to admit shit like that anyway with this big player in jail over these fictional murders his aluminium business is taken over by this massive new company Roussel another big conglomerate and the owners of Roussel are Roman Abramovich Boris Berezovsky and a guy called Oleg Deripaska another oligarch okay and actually at that point the violence stops in aluminium so so he's obviously a peacemaker really yeah in some ways I'm sure he made 70 billion out of it but he deserves that for establishing peace but I think it is a bit of this thing of like they actually needed someone to just be the big powerful force Yeah, just need someone to take control.
29:31Yeah, yeah. So he now owns all the oil company and the... Yeah, a big chunk of them. Basically, he controls like a big chunk of the oil industry and aluminium industry, which is too... And the rubber duck industry. And the rubber duck industry, which he's got an almost complete monopoly of. Is there any overlap? What do you... Yeah, I think he advertised his oil refineries with rubber ducks. Right, yeah. And the rivets on the jeans, could they be aluminium? I'm sure they are, yeah. Big rivet. in the pocket a big rivet. Deripaska, actually, side note, but he's the one who Peter Mandelson was pictured on a yacht with in 2008.
30:08And it was right after Mandelson had just lowered the trade tariffs on aluminium. Oh my God. There is no suggestion of wrongdoing by Mr. Mandelson. Matt, I do love Mandy's weakness for rich men. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I really enjoy it. thing that's quite like you almost feel sorry for him in it like obviously he's he's like bent as fuck it seems and he's like doing all these deals but there's something just the way he looks at these meetings he just always seems like such a little yeah he just loves just loves the rich dudes yeah who doesn't um anyway back to roman so he's now got he's got aluminium he's got oil but you've still as an oligarch like that you're still never safe and you've got to like basically ensure you've got political favor.
30:56And he starts getting really close to Yeltsin and his family in the late 90s. In fact, very close. He basically helps them embezzle loads of funds, personally. He becomes known as Yeltsin's cash handler. And they're so close, he moves into an apartment in the Kremlin. Mental. He lives in... That is crazy. He's only 30, by the way. Yeah. Is he like... Who lives in the Kremlin? Presumably the president lives in the Kremlin? Is it Yeltsin? he's in like the granny the granny flat Alex in Yeltsin's place I don't think I want to be flatmates with Boris Yeltsin no he's pissed all the time probably more than Putin though oh what you'd rather be with Yeltsin yeah I think Putin's more sinister I'm not leaving my dirty dishes in Putin's kitchen yeah Roman I noticed you did not pick up your dirty laundry from the landing what is this Roman you have less skin marks in the toilet again just see him come back from the shops there's a big box of novichok in the back yeah he's like Roman I cooked you a lovely dinner you're not going to eat actually I've actually eaten already thank you he's really kind of you that's the only flatmate combination where both of them are getting other people to test their food before Yeltsin would have been an easy poisoner I think because he's drunk he's just pissed yeah Yeah, yeah.
32:20Amazing he made it so far. I think living with Yeltsin would be quite annoying as well. He's just drunk, drunk, robbing you. Anyway, it does pay off cozying up to him quite so closely because prosecutors in Russia, they start to investigate these big deals, these big sell-offs of Soviet assets. They're like, this is corruption. Yeah. And the oil deal that made Roman rich is one of the big ones they're going for. And prosecutors start, like, investigating charges for him, but Yeltsin manages to protect him. And so they decide to target others in this circle instead. They go for Roman's right-hand man, they go for Boris Berezovsky, and they go for the director of the FSB, the Russian Security Service, a fella by the name of Vladimir Putin.
33:08Yeah. So they're like preparing to prosecute these big dogs until just as this corruption probe is gaining some momentum, a bombshell drops. A video is broadcast on Berezovsky's TV channel showing the main prosecutor with two prostitutes. Got a still from it here. He's got his shirt undone. His paunch is showing. So, yeah. So do you think... Is it a set up? Apparently, I mean, I don't know how much you can trust anyone's word in this story, but apparently the prostitute had actually just done this hidden camera thing on her own, off her own bat, just to like blackmail him or what? She knew he was a big dog and she was going to blackmail him.
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33:49And yeah, she didn't realize she'd hit the fucking jackpot. She actually now runs Russia's asphalt industry.
33:59Complete coincidence. She just bought it in an auction. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's classic, what's known as Compromat, right? Where they just fuck you. And I was looking, there were so many of these in the late 90s, early noughties in Russia. Just as someone's threatening the powerful people. Bang. You just get them to... It seems to always be a sex thing as well. I do think you've got to live a pretty squeaky clean life if you're going to go for Putin. If you come at the king, you best not miss. Wasn't there something with... They tried it with French spies or something? No, French... Yeah.
34:34Honey traps where basically in Soviet era, the Russian spies would get a French... They would get a spy to sleep with an undercover agent and then blackmail them so they could flip them. but they said the one nationality it never worked on was French spies because apparently they would do it, go to blackmail them and the guy would be like, yeah, my wife already expects me to cheat on her. I'm French. It's already priced in. I love that. They try it and it's just like, can't be blackmailed.
35:05That's quite a, that's a pretty good get out for, yeah. It's what they say about Trump, isn't it? that like he's, because he's already said so much mental shit, it's all priced in. You can't catch him out. Anyway, Roman's still constantly living in fear of either organized crime, trying to whack him or political rivals taking him out. And in 2000, he gets elected to the Russian parliament, which does come with one bonus. You get immunity from prosecution, which seems like quite a big flaw in their system. Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty sure that has been, utilised. It's Russia. He then becomes the governor of Chukotka, which is a region in Russia's farest east.
35:49It's just over from Alaska. Ten hour flight from Moscow. It's quite random. We're looking at a picture of him on a motorbike. I mean, it looks, it's Borat. It looks like Borat. It's Borat.
36:02The scenes in Borat where Borat is in Kazakhstan is, that's Chukotka. You're with my wife. Robert, you want to meet my wife? He's basically on a, motorbike just cruising around with like a random guy on the back just visiting these houses yeah everyone looks quite cold yeah barren landscape yeah I saw he the way that part of the way he got people on side was by buying them whaling weapons weapons to go whaling with yeah he's actually really popular there isn't he yeah because he just like does these sort of charitable schemes I imagine that's the sort of place that doesn't doesn't get a lot of attention from from Moscow yeah generally is.
36:41If you're familiar with the risk board, it's Kamchatka. It's a bit right at the end. He's Plied Cumru for Chukotka. I'd say it's a more important region in risk than in real life. In real life, yeah, no one cares about it, including Roman, to be honest. He only visits every six months. I'm just happy you're here. Yeah, it's good to see. Good to see a friendly face. To be fair, he's too busy in Moscow where he's cozying up to Putin, who he is actually, he helps into power. So when Yeltsin's time's up at the end of the 20th century, Roman recommends Putin and really backs him for power. And of course, Vladimir Putin does become the new premier.
37:24What do you get a new Russian premier as he begins his ascent to a 25 year reign? Well, Roman gives him a$57 million yacht as a well done gift. Wow. Yeah. Oh, that's just allowed. Yeah. Well, the rubber ducks are long since gone these days. Yeah. Yeah. And by this point, Roman Abramovich is Russia's second richest man. He's also having weekly meetings with Putin. I saw something that he, when Putin came into office, he had to get his new cabinet. And Roman Abramovich did, he interviewed all the candidates to be cabinet officials. Right. He's basically picking the government himself. Right hand man.
38:04Yeah. Yeah. Because I, obviously, you know his wealth story a bit, but I didn't realise how politically powerful he is. Yeah, and he's still so young. He's in his early 30s at this point. He's come up for it. It's an amazing story. It does make me feel quite an addict. You know when they're like, Beyonce has the same number of hours in the day as you? It's like fucking hell, early 30s, he's done all this. He's going to flatten the Kremlin, yeah. He's actually played it fucking well because in the early 2000s, Putin decides, quite Stalin style, that he needs to purge his rivals and he starts purging oligarchs, including Berezovsky, who had been, he was seen as really powerful and untouchable, but he'd started to get a bit yappy.
38:44He'd criticised Putin on his TV channel. Okay, that's super move. Don't do that, don't do that. And not long after that, he is investigated for tax fraud. The old classic. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure he was doing a bit of tax fraud, to be fair to him. But he flees to the UK, loses all his businesses in Russia, a huge amount of his wealth, and Roman basically cuts him loose. he decides to basically side with Putin. Yeah. Shrude move. That was a good, good move. So all those, like, at the time. All those businesses he was doing with Roman, he essentially just loses his share in them. We'll talk more about that.
39:15Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Apparently Putin... Yeah, but it's pretty ruthless from Roman because Boris was, Boris was sort of the one who, he kind of came on, not on his coattails because he obviously, like, he was such a great business mind who did it himself, but, like, it wasn't without Boris's connections and sort of patronage that he would have got into this position in the first place. They fucked him hard. He did. But I think right move because otherwise you might have been framed for a murder that never happened. Yeah. Putin's really going for the oligarch. What people say is the reason he succeeded while this failed was all the other oligarchs were really loud mouth and demanding and he's just very quiet, very loyal.
39:51Smart. Yeah. But he must be scared. That's what made him such a great flatmate for Putin. He wasn't... That makes any trouble. He's fine, yeah. Always pays his bills on time and yeah. Anyway, in the early 2000s, Abramovich, he settles in London. I think he always liked it there. And very quickly, he took an interest in buying a football club. So he's exploring different options to begin with. He's not that clued up really, though, on the English game. He goes, shortly after he arrives, he goes to Man United against Real Madrid at Old Trafford with Pinny Zahavi, the agent. And Pinny comes to collect Roman at the airport and he's got Graham Souness with him.
40:36Graham is manager of Blackburn at that point. And they come in the car. Graham's driving. He's picked them up. And Roman gets into the front seat. And really, Graham keeps chatting to him. He's just sort of making small talk. Oh, are you looking forward to the game? How's it going? How's it enjoying life in London? Whatever. and Roman just keeps on palming him off. Just like, keeps on turning and trying to like, making eyes to pennies a half of him for trying to talk to him. Did you not do the setting of no conversation? Basically, eventually he realises that Roman, Roman thought that Graeme Souness was just the chauffeur, essentially.
41:13To be fair, I think in Abramovich's world, is Graeme Souness, yeah. No, but also like, if you're a driver, like the idea that Souness is driving the car, it's a bit village in his life, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, it probably is. But yeah, initially he's keen on buying a football club. He's interested a lot. French side, Nice on his list to begin with. Man United as well. But neither of them are for sale. Also inquires about Tottenham. But Dan Levy wanted too much apparently. And then he asks the advice of England manager Sven-Goran Eriksson. He asks him, there's Spurs, there's Chelsea. And Sven says, look, buy Chelsea, don't buy Spurs.
41:53They're a lot more set up. they've got better players go for that so Chelsea at this point they're they're sort of a regular top six Premier League side but behind the scenes things are a bit rocky they're on the verge of bankruptcy really they've got 80 million pounds of debt owned by Ken Bates who he bought the club for a pound back in 1982 we're talking about old era football owners this is this is it really but he'd done a good job really in helping Chelsea rise up to like a Premier League force. But you know, Chelsea are in trouble. And Ken, I can't believe his luck really when this oligarch rocks up.
42:35Initially, though, at Chelsea, nobody really has that much of an idea of who Roman is. He's not a big name in the UK. And at one of their first meetings, Roman's lawyers bring in a copy of Forbes magazine to show who he is. They're like, flick it open and there's Roman at number 15. That's great. Apparently a lot of them, a lot of meetings with them, they don't even know which one Roman Abramovich is. They're like, who am I negotiating with here? Because he's just so understated. But once they realise how much dosh he's got, the negotiations go very quickly. 24 hours of negotiations and in July 2003 Roman buys Chelsea for 140 million do you think it's like he literally says alright we'll do 140 million and they're like 140 yeah so I just sold it for 40 yeah I mean 140 that's chump change really to Roman Abramovich really he's still he's 36 at this point which is mad to mad to think about anyway this deal goes through very quickly and afterwards Ken Bates and Abramovich take a helicopter ride over London.
43:46And they're flying over Regent's Park. Bromwich is sort of having a nosy out the window. And then he turns over Regent's Park and he turns to Bates and he says, that looks like a good park. Let's buy it for a training ground. Regent's Park. Regent's Park. And a Chelsea official who's on the flight as well politely informs him that it might be difficult. Regent's Park is the property of the Queen. and Roman just shrugged apparently and was like okay what was it like that's not a no let's make her an offer imagine if he had just bought Regis Park and turned it into him I think he would have if he couldn't I'm sure he would yeah back at the club though Roman immediately he gets all his old blazers from the oil company into high ranking positions at Chelsea and they start splashing the cash yeah So that first window, he signs 11 players, including Claude McAlealy, Hernan Crespo, Joe Cole, Damien Duff, Adrian Mutu.
44:50Yeah. Do you remember it was like a month from him buying it to the end of the transfer window? And they just banged. Is that right? Yeah, July. They bought him in July. So they just banged out. Did he have a list already of players? Presumably. Generally quite good purchases. Yeah, it was good. He spent well generally. There were a few misses. for Ron yeah but do you remember when Man City bought sorry when when the Abu Dhabi guys bought Man City they were buying like Joe and like Rubinio and stuff but Rubinio was big they bought him for Alano yeah but that was they were shit buys whereas these were quite true this was it did well right from the start it was so exciting yeah yeah but I mean for Chelsea fans this was dreamland really and they they're in love with Roman right from the start because he also he seems like a proper fan that first season he goes to every match home and away including one where he sits at the shed end at Stamford Bridge you've got a picture of it here that's amazing he looks like he's got a couple of bodyguards around him but he's just there with a bloke this top off with a Chelsea tattoo the bloke next to him is amazing yeah he's looking at him yeah because for a man who's so cautious about his security that's quite a brave move I guess he's got everyone there is protecting him yeah they're the last people on earth who want to see harm done to him yeah I mean there was there was one game that he didn't fancy and that was when Chelsea were drawn to play Scarborough away at the FA Cup which I would love to have seen I think the stadium's like 6 ,000 capacity yeah I would like to have seen that but sadly he was otherwise engaged still mad that he went to like Middlesbrough yeah yeah yeah he did donate 25 grand to Scarborough after that tie am I the only one who's starting to really like him yeah I mean And yeah, as long as you don't own a rival aluminium company.
46:41I don't think there's any evidence he was involved in that. Yeah.
46:47But yeah, he's a big football fan, clearly. He says that he bought Chelsea for the love of the sport, really. And I believe him. There was a book written a few years later, though, that suggested Abramovich might have had some other reasons. So the book suggests that he saw owning Chelsea as the least expensive form of life insurance. So around this time, as it has been before and since, the Russian state had no qualms about killing people who fell out of favor. And a few years later was the Litvinenko poisoning in London. And obviously, Roman's in the good books right now, but that can change swiftly.
47:29And having this high profile public position in a foreign country is potentially a bit of a buffer. It's harder to take out the owner of Chelsea than it would be to a sort of faceless figure in the oil industry. Because he's going to kick up a big furore. And he's probably in London. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Litvin Yanko caused quite a sturd, didn't it? I mean, it did, yeah, yeah, yeah. Put me off my Itzu trips. I mean, it put Roman off that as well. He did take a lot of precautions. So even at Stamford Bridge, he only ate food prepared by his private chef. wasn't out at the burger van on King's Road and he had a bodyguard to taste all of his food before he eats it Is that to see if it tastes funny?
48:15Because surely you haven't got time to see if the bodyguard dies I was wondering that, yeah I don't know What did they do Litvinenko with polonium? Polonium, which it's like radiation poisoning I guess that takes a little while to I don't know but he has a bodyguard anyway who's tasting it according to a former associate of Romans Stamford Bridge was a popular meeting place for FSB agents during this period are they friendlies? I presume they are unless they're sending a message to Roman by being there we are watching it's quite funny to picture them in the shed how undercover are they? that bloke with the tats it's like they've got the newspaper with the eyes cut out just like watching the game if it's the bloke with the tats he is in deep cover that guy.
49:06Had to put on 10 stone. 10 points of Stella. If the agents were there, they can't have been too happy with what they saw in the first season. Because Abramovich certainly isn't because he sacks Claudio Ranieri at the end of that first campaign. To be honest, I actually think that was quite harsh because Chelsea finished second in the Premier League that year, got to the Champions League semis, which is not a bad return for his first year considering the amount of new players that he had to work with. Yeah, Ranieri's a bit of a soft touch for a hard-nosed Russian oligarch, isn't he? Yeah. He's a bit sort of sweet.
49:43Yeah, yeah, yeah. A bit gentle. Which does explain who came next. Yeah. Apparently he was actually desperate to get Sven as his replacement. I can see those two. Well, again, Sven, another man with a weakness for rich men. Yeah. Loves it. He's got a bit of a mandelcon about him. But yeah, he apparently was desperate for him, but obviously Sven's committed to England. So he reluctantly says no. And instead, Roman settles for a little-known Portuguese youngster by the name of Jose Mourinho, who joins in 2004. He's pretty young at this point as well, isn't he? Yeah, I mean, this is just after he won the Champions League with Porto, right?
50:22So his stock was very high. Again, the first sexy manager. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Totally changes the vibe of managers. Yeah, I think you're probably right, yeah. Gone from Fergie and Wenger to Mourinho and Pep. It's a great match for the new era that Roman's building. This is like sexy money. Slightly dubious sources of money and sexy managers. First press conference is obviously the most famous Mourinho line of all. I'm European champion, so I'm not one of the bottle. I think I'm a special one. And yeah, safe to say he gets Roman's backing in the transfer market. So they spunk another 70 mil.
51:03They get Essien Drogba, Mattia Kesman, Ricardo Carvalho, Ferreira. Mixed success. Yeah, yeah. There is also the odd dud to deal with, like Adrian Mutu, who they'd bought under Renieri, who it's not worked out. Mourinho arrives and it's just instantly not a fan. Yeah, different style. He accuses Mutu of faking an injury, and then they have this confrontation in Mourinho's office where Mutu squares up to him and he says, if you ever go to Romania, you'll be in big trouble, basically. Yeah. At which point Mourinho's like, get this guy out of my club. Also, because my boss knows some pretty bad dudes as well.
51:39I wouldn't make too many friends. Oh yeah, let's get a little boat across the Black Sea, shall we? Anyway, apparently the story goes that Mourinho is the one who tips the drug testers off about Mutu's drug use. We covered this in a lot more detail in our Mutu episode. Really fun. obviously he ends up testing positive for cocaine and Chelsea rip up his contract he's not the only hard partying star in that Chelsea squad though after an FA Cup win John Terry and Joe Cole they go out in the West End and they bump into a group of glamour models including the great Keeley Hazel there's one of the big names she's a star yeah she's in her pomp at that point as well page three in FHM pub although Joe Cole is seeing about four of her because he's blackout drunk apparently he's just staggering around absolute wreck and at the end of the night he's lost his phone his wallet and John Terry and Keely Hazel says she just saw him stumbling around outside while she's trying to get a cab he's a mess and you actually I'll let her pick up the rest of the story from she tells it in her autobiography which is titled Everyone's Seen My Tits Penguin Random House available it's a great title it's a great Yeah, it catches the eye.
52:54She says, Joe was so drunk he couldn't stand up. I didn't want to leave him drunk in the middle of the street on his own. We had the World Cup coming up. That was her thought process. I said, I'd drop him home, and I kept asking him where he lived, and he kept replying, England! So in the end, she's like, what am I going to do? I feel like she's done the right thing here. She takes him back to her flat in South London and lets him sleep it off. She puts him in a bed, takes his shoes and socks off. You know, bucket by the bed, towel over the pillow. But there is just one problem. Keeley's boyfriend, Theo, pops round to pick up his car early in the morning, walks into the room and finds Joe Cole asleep in his girlfriend's bed.
53:36I mean... Yeah, you can put two of these together. Yeah. I choose to believe Keeley's side of the story. In any case, Theo goes ballistic. And Keeley says she heard a noise. We rushed upstairs. That's when I see Theo on top of Joe throwing punches at his head. this wasn't some scrappy little bar fight Joe's shirt had been ripped off he was bruised and bleeding it's pretty bad what do you mean woke up like that he doesn't even know where you are yeah exactly you're like where the fuck anyway apparently Joe fights back and he smacks Theo hard around the face and while Theo's dazed Cole just bolts out the door grabs his clothes and bolts past both of them and sprints to a taxi office where he wanders in battered and bruised apparently he's got no shoes on Can you imagine working in that cab rank at 9am?
54:25Stinking of booze comes in and it's pams. Because I guess Abramovich early era Chelsea is still the era of tabloid scandal and players out in Western nightclubs. It's the golden era. Yeah, exactly. It's the Arpshoff's golden era, the naughty naughties. Anyway, back to Chelsea. With Mourinho at the wheel, obviously they win their first league title for 50 years. It's a record at the time for most points ever in the Premier League and fewest goals conceded. mad 15 15 15 goals all season that is insane and it kicks off this amazing era of unprecedented success for chelsea which is particularly good news for their proprietor roman abramovich who his feeling is the more chelsea succeed the more famous i am the safer i am which probably explains why he's at every game yeah um he's still terrified about getting whacked at this point either by gangsters or political rivals.
55:20Yeah, I mean, if you just want to get control of his stake in the oil company. I think Putin's making that harder, but he's still like, you'll have enemies in the FSB. There's different groups vying, even in the FSB. So yeah, he has to start taking even more crazy precautions. So apparently, even when he's on his yacht at sea, he has armoured cladding on the boat. He's got an anti-missile system. and a mini submarine in case he needs to flee in a hurry. He's like a military general. Yeah. Mad. Is that submarine sort of like that, you know, the Titanic thing where those guys died? Is it like...
55:56Oh, what, like the submersible? Is it bigger? I mean, it's proper bomb villain stuff. He does get a bit less picky about his food. So previously he had bodyguards tasting it, but apparently he gets a real taste for Nobu, the sushi restaurant, which is where Boris Becker had that shag in the broom cupboard. I recognise the name from somewhere. It's a real Upshot favourite location. And he loves it so much that he orders takeaway from its Canary Wharf restaurant to a business meeting in Baku in Azerbaijan. So it's 1 ,200 quid's worth of sushi is ordered from the restaurant, collected by limo and driven to Luton Airport and then flown by private jet 3 ,000 miles to Abramovich's meeting.
56:43Did the sushi need a limo to get it together? Surely any car would have. That needs to be a good car. I guess if you're going to get a takeaway delivered to Azerbaijan, then sushi is the one you got. Yeah, I don't think the sushi is. I don't think a burger is going to be looking that good. Yeah. Get a KFC. It's going to be quite damp by the time it gets there. Still, yeah. So apparently estimated cost of 40 grand. Most expensive takeaway in history? Quite possibly. Yeah. If anyone knows of a more expensive one, let us know. Yeah. that's to be fair if I was an oligarch that's the sort of shit I'd be doing it's a flex isn't it as well at the business meeting although given what happened to Litvinenko I don't think sushi would be my go to as a Russian oligarch because he got done in Itzu oh true yeah his sushi had polonium in it I think I think he was definitely in Itzu I guess Nobu's a bit a bit better quality I can see Itzu's bounce back in a way it's sort of the Pizza Express Prince Andrew Itzu Litvinenko wasn't it the Skripals were at ZZ I think were they why are they always these like Russian these like FSB agents just love they just love chain restaurants they love like middle middle ranking chain restaurants Cafe Rouge the Slugger Lettuce they just have all their meetings there were they actually at ZZ I'm pretty sure they were at ZZ before on the Novichok pizza yeah any extra toppings yeah I do I love that takeaway story, I think.
58:13Yeah, that's all you've got to. I guess sushi does, if you're in an air-conditioned plane and limo... Yeah, it does not get a bit dry. The rice goes a bit dry, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah. Now, if you're a Russian spy nipping over to England for a quick poisoning, you're going to need a few things, aren't you, Zach? You're going to need a decent supply of Novichok. Yeah, check. Other chemicals are available. Yeah. You're going to need a reservation at a tired middle market restaurant chain. Shorty book ads, yeah. Preferably in a market town. Yeah. And of course, you're going to need cheap data. Yeah.
58:49You've got to let them know back in Moscow. Yeah, you've got to tell it. You've ordered your chili cheese steak from... Where do they get these? What do they sell at those places? You've got your bento box from Wagamama's on its way. Yeah. And the polonium is in the victim's system. You need to telegram the commissar back in Moscow and just be like, he's done. He's done. Yeah, well, let me tell you, you cannot rely on your old Russian SIM. Definitely not. And the Wi-Fi ZZ is frankly pretty shaky in my experience. So may I recommend Saley, which gives you cheap data every time you travel abroad.
59:33Saley is a new eSIM service brought to you by the creators of NordVPN. You download it once. It's just an app. You download it, and it gives you cheap data for 200 countries. 200. Wow. Yeah. So you can take people out in pretty much most of the countries in the world. Yeah, although you might be subject to European Union sanctions by now, in which case you might not be able to use it in those countries. Yeah. You know, elsewhere. Anywhere they let you travel, you can do that. I'm still talking about the spies, but actually this is for everyone. Anyone can use it. it's the cheapest easiest way to use your phone abroad poisoning trip or not maybe you're just visiting Salisbury Cathedral that's what they said wasn't it they just said they were like tourists I think they came to London for like three days and they came to Salisbury Cathedral twice two separate trips they just love it you've got to do the whole menu my dad calls Pizza Express that lovely Italian place which I think those guys could probably relate to.
1:00:35They love it. Do you think this is something to do with the fact that, like, behind Iron Curtain Russia, these sort of chains were not available? It's like when Iron Curtain came down and it was like, oh, my God, McDonald's. Is this the equivalent? They come here and it's like, oh, my God, Café Rouge. Finally, this is what. When I was a boy growing up in Siberian Gulag, we dreamed of slugging lettuce. one day we would try the american cheese steak yeah yeah well enjoy lads welcome welcome to capitalism uh and best of all 15 off salie for upshot listeners so yeah download it in the app store just uh search for s-a-i-l-y use code upshot and you'll get 15 off your first purchase an absolutely killer deal i'll put those details in the in the episode description as well it's not roman's only extravagance so he he gets in nikki haslam the interior designer to do a statue he installs a statue in his house are you familiar with nikki has no he's like a sort of socialite designer he's the guy who releases every year his list of things that are common you ever seen it it's like a tea towel they're the ones on his list that i've enjoyed before loving your parents because it's obviously that like posh people thing of like if you weren't sent away to boarding school at three and one of them is minding about smoking because he's obviously been in restaurants and people are like can you not fucking smoke anyway apparently he does this statue for Abramovich and Abramovich hates the statue so much that he orders Nicky to rip it out, fires him and gets someone else to renovate the entire house because he's just so annoyed that the statue's like ruined the vibe he actually the other oligarchs sound worse so Haslam also says that he he does a Moscow penthouse for that guy Deripaska who's in the aluminium business and apparently the only request was the apartment to have dancing poles for girls made of aluminium yeah exactly actually it's just washing what's that expression eating your own eating your own dog food and Evgeny Lebedev the you know the guy who owns the evening stand and stuff apparently he has a statue of Pinocchio but instead of a nose, it's an erect penis.
1:02:58Literally the worst statue of him. I can imagine. That's like oligarch humour. Yeah. We should do a Patreon about him. I've heard some fucking mental stories. Anyway, back at Chelsea, despite all the success, Roman and Jose's relationship starts to deteriorate. So they went back-to-back titles, but then things sour in 2006 when Abramovich insists on signing Andrei Shevchenko and Mikhail Balak. Neither of those transfers go very well, do they? Yeah, I think Balak was decent. Shevchenko never really wiped out. He was just mates with Shevchenko, wasn't he? Yeah, I think so. And apparently Mourinho's really angry about that, which I get.
1:03:39Meanwhile, Abramovich is getting increasingly annoyed that Mourinho can't get it over the line in the Champions League. And then he fails to win the league in 2007. United win it. And it's all falling apart. But there's this infamous game against Rosenborg early in the 07-08 season where the grounds are full, Chelsea only draw. And Abramovich, who's always been quite like neutral expression in the stands, is visibly really pissed off. And after that, Mourinho leaves. Officially, it's mutual consent. But he's sacked by Chelsea. Yeah, I remember when the news broke that Mourinho was gone. It was shocking at the time because he was the best manager in the wild.
1:04:17It was like, what the hell is Chelsea doing? I remember being at school and hearing it yeah it was gutting as well because he was so fun but do you think in hindsight that's just Mourinho he only does a couple of good seasons yeah yeah I mean we didn't really know that at the time but yeah three seasons isn't that long you could say Zach it was a bit of a bombshell I would probably say that yeah I'd probably call it a bombshell well on that bombshell we've reached the end of part one so Roman Abramovich has tasted Premier League glory but he's lost the man who got him there and things are about to get wild on and off the pitch.
1:04:51So join us in part two where Chelsea is thrown into some serious chaos. We've got managers in brothels, got wife swapping in the dressing room, kidnappings abroad. It's pretty mental. And in Roman's personal life too, there are some wild moments. He's partying with Prince and Paul McCartney. He's poisoned by the KGB. And his old friend turned foe is found dead. It's about to get nasty on all fronts. certainly is so you have to wait next week to hear part two or if you are a member of the Upshots Patreon you can listen to it right now it's ready and waiting for you if I were you it is in your best interest to subscribe to the Patreon that's all I'm saying otherwise you might find that you take a little walk by a river this week they have a mysterious art stack floating down the Erinska River I strongly advise you to assent to this business deal would be my advice I shouldn't have to tell you what happens if you don't.
1:05:49So, patreon.com forward slash Upshot Towers if you want that protection and immunity. Otherwise, good luck. We'll see you next time. You'll get an extra episode of Upshot every week. You'll be alive to enjoy it. And we'll cut you in on our aluminium business as well. Fuck it. Have a rubber duck on us. All right, Zach. Enjoyed that. Enjoyed that very much. Thanks a lot. See you next time. Bye.
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In his early twenties, Roman Abramovich was schlepping 1,000 miles to sell rubber ducks in Russia’s freezing north.
A decade later he was Russia’s second richest man, best pals with Putin and a Premier League champion.
From flying sushi to Azerbaijan to getting poisoned by the KGB, this is the story of Roman Abramovich…
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