In short
Part two of “Ryder Cup of Wrong’uns,” a comedic, scandal-focused tour of notorious golfers’ sex, drugs, gambling, and con artistry, with a final nod to current wild card Alejandro Tosti.
Guests
Greggy (co-host). No other named guests appear; the episode is primarily Greggy and the host discussing stories and rumors.
Key claims / notable examples
- Dustin Johnson: banned 6 months in 2014 for a positive cocaine test; journalist Robert Lucidic alleges affairs with two PGA Tour players’ wives (named as Will McKenzie and Jimmy Walker). Host claims DJ’s party/drug use and mentions DJ’s orbit via West Palm Beach bar encounter.
- Seve Ballesteros: legend of groupies queuing outside his hotel; Liz Hodge (former pro golfer/page 3 model) claims she was his first lover.
- Sir Nick Faldo: multiple divorces; alleged $25m in settlements; relationship history includes 20-year-old student Brenna Sepalak and later Valerie and Lindsay “Lady Linz” DeMarco; Trump connection via “beautiful wife.”
- Tommy “Two Gloves” Gainey: busted in Florida after visiting a brothel that was an undercover police operation.
- Johnny Del Prette/Robert Kraft: police raids at a spa at 3:23am; Kraft linked to the same raid.
- “Titanic Thompson”: 1920s-30s hustler/gambler, ambidextrous golf trickster, and alleged involvement in multiple killings and a fixed poker game.
- John Daly: major-winning chaos; claims of heavy gambling, alcohol, and wild behavior; includes Hooters mugshot anecdote.
- Alejandro Tosti: current PGA Tour player; claims include chugging champagne and jumping into a lake, plus a practice-round hole-in-one at Sawgrass followed by lake-jumping.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODustin Johnson's Wild Side
0:00 to 0:26
Exploring Dustin Johnson's partying reputation and personal controversies.
“As soccer takes center stage this summer, Comcast helps bring the experience home to America.”
Dustin Johnson's Wild Side
2:07 to 3:11
Exploring Dustin Johnson's partying reputation and personal controversies.
“We can't talk about golfing wild men without going into depth about him.”
The Fallout of Infidelity
3:11 to 4:38
Discussing the impact of Johnson's affairs on his peers and their marriages.
“So, yeah, I've sort of been in DJ's orbit a little bit.”
Wayne Gretzky's Influence
4:38 to 5:52
Examining Wayne Gretzky's cultural status and his connection to Dustin Johnson.
“And then DJ himself, you know, he's obviously, you know, Wayne Gretzky's son-in-law plays a lot of golf with Trump, you know, live connection now and they sort of do all that kind of stuff.”
Seve Ballesteros: The Charismatic Legend
5:52 to 8:05
Celebrating Seve Ballesteros' legacy and allure among fans and women.
“kind of darting around the place, going to all corners.”
Liz Hode's Relationship with Seve
8:05 to 9:38
Discussing Liz Hode's experiences and insights into her affair with Seve.
“I mean, look, you know, the guy's been dead 10 years, but I still talk about him as if he's like, God, I love Seve Ballesteros.”
Nick Faldo's Marital Troubles
9:38 to 12:24
Exploring the costly divorces and relationships of Sir Nick Faldo.
“So, I mean, I guess we're into, that's got to be 80s, Walkman.”
Nick Faldo's Personal Life and Humor
14:01 to 16:28
Explore the humor and tumultuous relationships of golfer Nick Faldo.
“He then remarried for nine years until he met 20-year-old American golfing student Brenna Sepalak, who he left his wife Jill for in quite public circumstances.”
Golfers and Their Misadventures
16:29 to 21:44
Discussion of various golfers' misadventures, including legal troubles and scandals.
“the 20 year old golf student last three years, but it does come to an end when he meets the lovely Valerie, a Swiss PR agent.”
The Infamous Titanic Thompson
21:45 to 27:33
A dive into the life and notorious acts of golf hustler Titanic Thompson.
“Well, Kraft showed it to him and Putin just put it on his finger and walked off.”
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Doug Sanders and the Rat Pack Era
27:34 to 28:05
An exploration of Doug Sanders' colorful life intertwined with iconic figures.
“I've actually got another old-time classic for you.”
Doug Sanders: A Wild Ryder Cup Story
28:05 to 31:27
Learn about Doug Sanders' colorful past in golf and his near misses.
“And then it went to it when they used to do an 18-hole playoff the next day.”
Doug Sanders: A Wild Ryder Cup Story
32:23 to 32:52
Learn about Doug Sanders' colorful past in golf and his near misses.
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John Daly: The People's Champion
32:52 to 42:03
Explore the chaotic life and career of John Daly, golf's wild character.
Discussion on John Daly and Ryder Cup Favorites
42:03 to 43:32
The hosts reflect on John Daly's impact and share their favorite Ryder Cup moments.
“There was one in Nottingham, wasn't there?”
Alejandro Tosti: The Eccentric Golfer
43:33 to 46:11
An insight into Alejandro Tosti's unique personality and golfing experiences.
“This is the man, Alejandro Tosti, current PGA Tour player from Argentina.”
Transcript
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1:19Requires Google account, Google Health app, internet, and Google Health premium subscription. Features subject to change. Availability and results vary. Not intended for medical purposes. Works independently of Gemini apps. Check responses for accuracy. Welcome back to the Upshot's Ryder Cup of Wrongens. It's part two. Greggy's still here. Hello, mate. Hello, mate. We've flown him back. The smoke and mirrors. Yeah, exactly. That was a busy old weekend you've had. And then just straight back to the Upshot for part two. Yeah. Obviously, in part one, we relived Tiger Woods' shagging exploits, his romantic journey from high to low and back again.
1:57And of course, we talked about Phil Mickelson getting his knob out at the dinner table to show his friend's wives. If you haven't listened to part one already, do go back and listen. But we're now going to meet many, many more wrong-uns. Yes, John Daly is in there. We can't talk about golfing wild men without going into depth about him. But I mentioned at the end of part one that there was a member of the current tour who dabbled in a bit of extracurricular and, you know, someone who's really taken the torch on from Tiger Woods on the tour. And I am, of course, speaking of DJ, Mr. Dustin Johnson, who, I mean, it's pretty well known that he was something of a party animal.
2:37He obviously, he was banned for six months in 2014, which turned out to be a positive test for Coke, his third failed drugs test so yeah i mean he's doing a bit of beer drugs and partying on the side but um around that time journalist robert lucidic came forward with a bit of extra interesting info he said it's not a huge secret either that dustin johnson had affairs with two wives of pga tour players one broke up the marriage and i'm pretty sure those players are will mckenzie and jimmy walker yeah will mckenzie lesser known Jimmy Walker not so they played on a Ryder Cup team together and um I mean it was crazy I mean Jimmy Walker's a fellow major winner right you know the guy won the USPGA I think 2012 something like that so he was he was right at the top of the game for a long time but everybody knew so you'd go to a golf tournament where Jimmy Walker was and like it'd almost be like a little titter from the spectators because you'd go oh there he is and he'd get you know he'd get heckled he'd get a bit of uh how's dj jimmy and all that which is like really you know you've just been divorced like from your wife yeah because that was the one that did split up the marriage which is like oh because will mccansy did split from his wife as well but when they split they were like it has nothing to do with those yeah yeah but yeah jimmy walker and their wife yeah it's bad yeah so that was that was a whole thing because they played on the same rider cup team and And I think it was like, do we pair them together?
4:08No, obviously not. They do work well together. So, yeah, I've sort of been in DJ's orbit a little bit. I mean, you know, he's married to Paulina Gretzky. I'm sure you're going to mention that. And, you know, who's the daughter of the NHL god that is Wayne Gretzky, who's also a bit of an odd guy because, like, you know, he's obviously Canadian but now lives in Florida. to um not he's not odd cause he's canadian but but because um you know obviously with the trump and the 51st state and all this stuff like there's a lot of canadians who put a lot of stock into what wayne gretzky says i can't actually say how famous this guy is um in in canada um and how much he's revered but his stock seriously plummeted since he's kind of like been playing a bit of golf with trump oh is he basically like yeah let's join the usa well he's just not said anything which i think for the Canadians is worse.
5:04So yeah. It's an awkward position to be in. It is. Yeah. And then DJ himself, you know, he's obviously, you know, Wayne Gretzky's son-in-law plays a lot of golf with Trump, you know, live connection now and they sort of do all that kind of stuff. So yeah, very, very weird. But I've been in his orbit a couple of times. I was actually visiting a mate in West Palm Beach in Florida and I was in a bar where it was only a pokey little thing. You know, it was a tiny thing. It was just nothing special. There was no VIP section or anything like that. It was literally just a bar and a load of yanks with cocktail sticks in their mouths.
5:36Terrible joint. Anyway, the whole place for 30 seconds all of a sudden has this weird atmosphere and what's going on? It almost felt like the music had stopped. It hadn't, but it was like, oh, what's going on here? And there was like these four guys in blazes kind of darting around the place, going to all corners. And then they sort of looked over to the door, waved the door doorman to sort of let this bloke in and the bloke was Dustin Johnson so it was like for his posse basically who sort of scoped out the joint and waved him in and I'm not going to say how long ago this was but yes there was definitely a few narcotics being consumed there was definitely I think he's kind of been open that like yeah I've used drugs it's not actually my issue my issue is just like not like just not just parting too hard yeah yeah basically sounds like the same thing to me i would say his issue is fucking his friend's wives yeah that was that's also a bit of a problem he's moved on hasn't him and paulina seemingly seemingly yeah seemingly yeah they're kind of the golden couple of live golf yeah they are yeah if that's what if that's what you aspire to be what title to be they're all good what i will say on dj is that i don't care about him going to live and all that stuff because he's never lied about it.
6:54He goes, I just want, I want to work less and earn more money. Yeah. Fine. You know, good honesty. He's not bad-mouthed anybody. He's not shit on the doorstep on the way out of the PGA Tour. And actually, he's always quite affable. Like, there's all these clips of it. It's like, so DJ, how'd you hit a fade? You know, talk us how you hit the shot from left to right. And he'll go, well, I stand over it and I just, just try and hit a fade. It's like, really good instructional videos. Well done, mate. Yeah, no, I mean, his public persona is quite enjoyable. Yeah, I like him. Unless you're poor old Jimmy Walker.
7:31Now, we've talked a lot about shaggers, but Seve Ballesteros was right up there. The legend goes that his hotel room during majors would have a line of groupies forming an orderly queue at the door. And I don't actually think people often say that's not exaggeration. No. But what is that? I mean, you can't shag that many people. No, probably. Can you, James? You don't know. He was called the matador for a reason. I think he's like, you know, Seve's got this incredible, I mean, look, you know, the guy's been dead 10 years, but I still talk about him as if he's like, God, I love Seve Ballesteros.
8:14And, you know, charisma on the golf course, personified, incredibly handsome dude. I kind of compare him mainly probably just because he's Spanish but a little bit to like what Carlos Alcaraz is now like in the tennis but like with a bit more of like the freewheeling ability to do the what the fuck he wants because you know there was no camera phones and there was no PR machine you know it's like Carlos Alcaraz 30 years ago I mean think of the damage you know whereas now Carlos Alcaraz has to just be a very pleasant very likeable guy a very likeable guy toe the party line speak you know, incredible English to give the on-court interviews.
8:52Seve always had that kind of broken, you know, even right up until he died, you know, when he'd been the Ryder Cup captain and played in America and done all these corporates and stuff. His English still wasn't amazing. Far better than our Spanish, I was hasten to add. But like, he just, yeah, he had that like, I mean, everybody loved him. Everybody loved him. So a queue of people outside his hotel room door, I can see it. Yeah, absolutely. I'm sure they're just getting autographs and stuff. actually I think the key thing for Seve is he was single for most of his life so the press weren't doing the kiss and tell thing in the same way they couldn't really justify them so there's actually not that many like warts and all accounts of shagging him although one woman did provide one and that is Liz Hode who is a former professional golfer and page three girl who went on to have relationships with a number of famous names including F1 Playboy James Hunt who we've talked about before big shagger and the royal photographer Patrick Litchfield who I don't don't really know what his bag is to be honest okay alright hard one to process in my brain anyway she said of Seve she said he was my first lover and the best I've ever had well there you go losing your V-plates to Seve Ballesteros is a pretty good gig if you're a golf fan especially yeah it's decent yeah good good from Seve well good from Liz yeah well on Liz she was actually less complimentary about James Hunt she said that he made love wearing earphones because he liked to listen to Meatloaf.
10:22Oh, no. What's that all about? So, I mean, I guess we're into, that's got to be 80s, Walkman. Yeah. Yeah. Because famously, Leonardo DiCaprio, the rumor is... I'm picturing AirPods here. It isn't, is it? Yeah, no, no. It's big, big sort of heavy Panasonic numbers plugged into a tape deck. Yeah, that's on the bed next to you. Yeah, and Meatloaf. Probably the song is, I'd do anything for love, but I won't do that. But this is the rumor about Leonardo DiCaprio always is that he has sex with airpods in oh really yeah supposedly dicaprio when you shag him it's sort of like you go into one room his lawyers are there you do the end do the nda and then you go into the main room and um you shag and he doesn't look you in the eye and he he has airpods in the whole time and then someone i know know someone who shagged him claims to anyway um said that i was like what everyone's always said oh what is it what music is it a podcast apparently it's like whale noises you know like the sound of whales mating that is psych meditate yeah really psychotic that is really so meatloaf actually feels a bit more charming yeah put it on the speakers so we can both enjoy it just to clarify that was james hunter not yeah that would really actually ruin my image of seve yeah no that's james hunter who we will do an episode on sometime because he's he got up to all sorts um as for liz if you're wondering what she's up to these days.
11:41In 2012, she was blacklisted by Wentworth Golf Club. Oh, really? She says it's because they found out she was a page three girl. I wonder if it was also because she did a kiss and tell on Seve Ballesteros. But quite a charming one. She was nice about him. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And Wentworth do... I was going to say, there's a lot worse people at Wentworth than that. Especially these days. You also can get blackballed there quite easily, can't you? Yeah. It takes a few members. Yeah, of course. I'm sure Kevin Peterson got blackballed there recently. He did, yeah. And he's got a house right next to the golf course as well.
12:09So it's like looking over your back fence every day. You're going, no. I'd move. Sell the house. Once you can't get it, you would, wouldn't you? Andrew Strauss is a member, I noticed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sir Andrew. Anyway, in 2019, Liz announced that she changed tack entirely. Here's the headline. Model plans to marry her dog after giving up on men after 220 failed dates. She's got the dog in a little top hat and she's in a wedding dress. Lovely. Sorry, we've drifted quite a lot from Seve Ballesteros. Liz Hode was a professional golfer though well there you go so she's got her own spot on this list yeah I couldn't find that much else on Seve which is weird because he's known as such a ladies man yeah yeah but because I think basically no one's annoyed about it no so and the press love him as long as he wasn't upsetting people I'm sure he broke a lot of hearts but like he don't he wasn't doing what Tiger was doing where bare face lying you know straight to everybody you know I think actually Seve everybody knew everybody was fine with it it was part of his personality, wasn't it?
13:07The fact that he was quite clearly this child. And it was kind of different times. I think if you're just single and enjoying it, then, you know, go for it. I highly recommend the Seve biopic. It's not sordid. There's no shagging in it, but it's very, very good. Really? Yeah, really good. I'm going to check that out. Is there a sordid version? I'm sure there's room for one to be commissioned. Well, one man who should have taken Seve's advice to stay single is one of the few Brits on the list. It is Knight of the Realm, Sir Nick Faldo, who, yeah, he makes our list because his incurable shagging habit cost him$25 million in divorce settlements.
13:44Yeah, so. Just keeps marrying him. So his first marriage actually ended before he won a major. So I think that was all like relatively, you know, just straightforward stuff. Although he said of that marriage, we were happily married for eight months. Unfortunately, we were married for four and a half years. That's a classic Faldo line, actually. Yeah, that's quite good. It's good. He has got some good quips in him. He then remarried for nine years until he met 20-year-old American golfing student Brenna Sepalak, who he left his wife Jill for in quite public circumstances. It was a bit undignified, wasn't it?
14:18And after that, Jill, his ex-wife, Brandon, she said, Nick, socially, is a 24 handicapper. That's very good, actually. And that's the sort of shit that he would hate as well. What's weird about that is he does a lot of commentary and he's very good. Yeah, he's really good. He's a smooth talker. I like him. So does she just mean that he's like missing a bit of like empathy and kind, the milk of human kindness? I'll tell you now. So I saw Faldo. So he got knighted, I think, in about 2009. I reckon I saw him in 2012, 2013, and he was being ferried past me on a golf buggy at a tournament. And he was sat on the back and everybody had sort of seen this buggy coming.
14:58You know, people were just walking. It was like in the Tented Village bit where you get your hot dogs and all that. and this buggy was whizzing past and he was going, excuse me, night of the realm coming through. And I actually, I thought that was quite funny, right? I thought if he's taking the piss, that's, that's funny. Yeah. It's like, it's quite, quite funny, right? Because that's also his humor. It's kind of like that. And I think it's a lost on a lot of people, but he, and I mentioned this to somebody who knew it, who'd been around him for years. And he said, oh no, that's not a joke that's him being deadly serious what but then on the but that's the sort of thing he'd say on the commentary is a joke like the you know the quip there about the you know we were happily married for eight months but we were actually married for four and a half that's funny right so I'm not sure I'm not sure if he is socially awkward or not he strikes me as a guy who can laugh at himself yeah yeah yeah definitely yeah there's a bit of Alan Partridge there big time yeah big time I know he pisses a lot of thankfully I don't have to watch the majors on Sky because I'm always on a different channel.
16:04But like, I know when he did the Masters this year, people getting seriously fucked off with him constantly talking about when I won the Masters. And well, yeah, Rory's won the Masters, but I won it three times. And like constantly doing that. People like, shut up. That's sort of the same as the Night of the Realm thing, isn't it? Yeah, a little bit. To be fair, also he keeps saying he's retiring and then he gets fucking divorced and has to come back to work. So you probably expect him to leave. Well, the relationship with Brenner, the 20 year old golf student last three years, but it does come to an end when he meets the lovely Valerie, a Swiss PR agent.
16:38And he swiftly broke up with Brenner who, you know, she responded like you or I would. She picked up one of his golf clubs and smashed in the windscreen of his 200 grand Porsche, which I quite rate. Nick said later, I was praying she didn't use my best clubs. You should have heard me sigh with relief when I found out she picked up an old wedge I'd left lying in the garage. Again, that is funny. It's a good gag. Some people would refuse to talk about that story. A hundred percent. But he's quite an open book. Yeah, he's good. Anyway, he married the fragrant Valerie in July 2001 and declared, this one's going to last, which again is funny, I think.
17:14Yeah, it's quite good. He's owning it. But unfortunately, by 2006, he filed for divorce again and was facing a£50 million settlement. Valerie's dad was interviewed about the divorce and he said, it's not the first time Nick has bought something and changed his mind, bought something. That's your daughter. Very demeaning. Yeah. Of your own daughter. He bought a Bentley recently, but once he had it, he was bored with it after a month and got rid of it. Maybe that's what he's like with wives. Sort of get your point, but you are talking about your daughter like she's a car. Weird. And then in 2021, Nick made it wifey number four when he married the current Mrs.
17:54Faldo, who's Lindsay DeMarco. Yeah, who calls herself, by the way, Lady Linz. Yeah, Lady Linz. Oh, is that because of the sir? Yeah. I kind of love it. Yeah, I do. I kind of love it. Yeah. Which is funny when you know what's next. Yeah. So Lady Linz is a former topless dancer who she can't, she was interviewed and she couldn't remember how many times she'd been married. So the answer is six, including two to the same man. Oh my goodness. But yeah, she, when they asked her, she couldn't remember. So it's actually a perfect match, I think. Anyway, Lindsay was once named Mrs. Conservative USA. Not sure that's the title you want to be going for.
18:34Lady Lind. She won it. You'll never sing that. And that's actually opened some doors for Faldo, because last year, Donald Trump, who she's matey with Trump, Lindsay, she knew his family. He probably was, you know, joining in when she was having a dance. They know each other from Palm Beach, we'll put it at that. And last year, Trump touted Nick for a role in his administration because he's such a fan of his, quote, beautiful wife. So Trump told a rally in Montana, he said, I think we need to bring Nick into the government because we'd like to get other people to fold. And his nickname is Faldo because he makes everyone fold.
19:13But his name is Faldo. Just to clarify. Just rambling on. Christ almighty. He is just funny, isn't he? He probably called him handsome and probably talks about how he can't force as well. Well, the fact that he hasn't mentioned Fowdo's cock, I think is telling. I think that suggests he's not one of the true greats. No honey farmer. Anyway, you know, Survey, Sir Nick, they can rely on dashing looks and major titles to woo their love interests. But down the pecking order, it can get quite a lot more transactional. I regret to inform you. Like for Tommy Two Gloves Ganey, who people might not have heard of.
19:51He had a peak ranking of 84 on the PGA Tour. He's no mug. And he always wore two gloves. But he became national news back in 2019 when he was in Florida for this charity tournament. Where else? And the night before, he thought he'd unwind by paying a little visit to the local brothel. And he met with a lady who worked there. But unfortunately, she turned out to be an undercover police officer working as part of Florida's Operation Santa's Naughty List. It's a great name for an operator. It was December. as well needless to say I mean again Florida I like these comedy police operation titles yeah it's good isn't it yeah so Tommy was busted yeah poor fella Tommy was busted can you do that with police you can just pretend to be a prostitute or maybe they were just watching I don't know entrapment is fine in the States yeah it seems like in Florida yeah and on Dog the Bounty Hunter if you ever watched that yeah I've watched that sadly weirdly not in Florida but feels like Florida it's in Hawaii but same vibe.
20:54Anyway, there was a similar fate as Tommy for Johnny Del Prette, who's the boyfriend, or was the boyfriend, of Jessica Corder, who's quite a major star, isn't she? Yeah, so she's the sister of Nellie Corder, who is the current world number one. And also, her brother is Seb Corder, who's a top 40. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Big golfing family. Unfortunately, Johnny was caught by police who raided a spa at 3.23am, which it's hard to claim. You're just getting a salt scrub and a pedicure at 3.23am, isn't it? Yeah, isn't it, yeah. 24 hours spa. That police operation also caught Robert Kraft, the major American businessman.
21:36Crone Nabisco, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. And he owns the, I want to say the Patriots. He owns one of the big American sides. We talked about him recently because Putin stole his Super Bowl ring off his finger. Really? Well, Kraft showed it to him and Putin just put it on his finger and walked off. Bonkers. You're not getting that bad. That was so good. But yeah, Kraft was up to no good. Caught on a raid. I saw that Robert Kraft, a man that rich, would have more of a setup than just getting caught. Yeah, but it all goes back to Tiger Woods, doesn't it? In that first episode where... To get done by the police, feels careless.
22:10Yeah, careless. That's all it was, careless. Finally, on the vice element of this story. So back in 2004, two California golf course managers were put on house arrest after staging a competition where prostitutes and strippers were stationed on the putting greens. So 17 of these women just set up tents and advertise their services on boards on each greens. I guess maybe the first green. Sponsor a hole. Yeah. Quite literally.
22:46Even for me. That was really getting into the spirit of the upshot, wasn't it? Yeah. That's worse than Phil Mickelson's bum hole. So these women are stationed on greens and 160 golfers paid$200 a piece to attend. Okay. Many of them showed up without any clubs. Yeah, I was going to say, it's great for a green fee, but understandably, yeah. I think you've got to at least go through the motions of playing the course. Yeah. I mean, also, explain that to your wife, you know. oh I'm playing in a charity golf day actually up there at Santa Fe golf club or whatever it is yeah brilliant alright and then like you know two hours later she's just like folding up you know some stuff or collecting an Amazon parcel putting it in the garage notices that the clubs are still there what are they doing here honey did you forget your clubs yeah I hired a set today actually trying them out yeah that's a bad one to get caught in showing up without your clubs for me is crossing the line yeah he's a little bit isn't it at least pretend just pretend uh now one man who was far too wily to get caught up in that sort of caper was titanic thompson so i'm taking you all the way back to the roaring 20s now greggy one of the first stars of the game is this fella he was born alvin clarence thomas but he became known as titanic thompson and he decided not to turn pro because he was making more money hustling people so he would hustle a sort of country clubs these rich guys uh where His main hustle was he would beat them right-handed and then he'd go, all right, double or quits.
24:19And they'd be like, don't think I want to play you again. He goes, all right, I'll play left-handed. So they would. And of course he was ambidextrous. He was actually better on his left. So he'd beat them again. He was married five times. He married a few famous actresses from the era, but mainly he was an inveterate gambler. He had a number of like cons that he would pull. Like he would bet people that he could throw a walnut over a building. They wouldn't know that he'd actually weighted it with lead. so it would travel more. He also once bet someone that he could drive a golf ball 500 yards.
24:50This is a time where people, the best, were driving 200. Yeah, I mean, nobody drives it 500 now. Yeah, exactly. What's DeChambeau, like 480? No, not even that. You know, he'll carry it 350. Right. So how did he win this bet? Well, he waited until winter and drove it onto a frozen lake, which apparently will send a ball bouncing for a long, long distance. He also, I should mention, killed five men. What? The most mental thing is Titanic Thompson never faced any charges. So the first was in 1910 in rural Arkansas when Titanic Thompson, he's playing dice on this boat and he wins the boat they're on as a bet.
25:30Nice. And the bloke he beats is so pissed off he accuses him of cheating and throws him into the water, Titanic. So he's in the drink. It's all looking nasty. He manages to climb back in at which point the bloke threatens Titanic's girlfriend as well with a knife. And so he grabs a hammer, Titanic, whacks this bloke over the head and chucks him overboard. Self-defense, really. Oh my goodness. Do we know why he didn't get charged for this stuff? Yeah, so apparently the, first of all, that was self-defense and he had a witness, but the sheriff said to him, you can either stay here and face a trial or you can hand over the boat and I'll let you leave the state.
26:06No way. It was 1910. Good, good corruption. I don't know what Arkansas was like in 1910, but he gave him the boat. wisely and lived to tell another tale. As for the other four murders, so two of them were killed in self-defense when they tried to rob him of his gambling winnings in St. Louis. Actually, on that occasion, the local police chief thanked him because they were wanted bank robbers. He's getting lucky, this guy. It's kind of like bounty hunting, though, isn't it? In this era, I think you could kill someone who was wanted. Dead or alive. Another time, he shot a guy who was trying to rob a poker game.
26:40Again, self-defense. thanked for it and then the final one was he was in a country club in Texas in 1932 and this masked figure approached and held Titanic up at gunpoint and it turned out to be 16 year old Jimmy Frederick who had caddied for Thompson earlier that day oh my god obviously fancied his winnings and yeah he shot him that's unbelievable quicker on the draw that is unbelievable isn't it yeah that's so good I didn't know half of that that's brilliant quite the life yeah that's a good he also was involved he also was involved in what was called the crime of the century, he fixed a poker game that caused this New York City crime boss, Arnold Rothstein, one of the first, Mr.
27:19Biggs, to be in debt for$500 ,000. And Rothstein refused to pay it and someone killed him. Oh, wow. It's a big deal. Yeah, so a real giant of the era. And he was pretty good at golf as well. Did I mention that? Slightly different to like Bernhard Langer. Very similar. Professional golfers, all the same. All the same. I've actually got another old-time classic for you. This guy was more prolific on the professional circuit. Doug Sanders. Yeah, Doug Sanders. Fame chagga. Colourful outfits. Real maverick figure in the 50s. He actually had an insanely difficult childhood. He grew up in the Great Depression picking cotton.
27:56Didn't get his first pair of shoes until he was 12. Yeah. And he was just picking cotton until he tried caddying on the local nine-hole course. Yeah. And discovered his two passions. Firstly, golf. Yeah. And secondly, knobbing. so he lost his virginity in a ditch aged 11 he said it was on the way back from the course and she was the pro what can I tell you I enjoyed it and just kept doing it by the way that means he lost his virginity a year before he wore his first pair of shoes that's bonkers there's not many people who can say that again you'll never sing that but by age of 23 he was a major player hanging around with a rat pack Frankie Valli and all the others Dean Martin he said later it was hard running with a Rat Pack and not do what these guys did Blondes tonight no we had Blondes last night let's go for Redheads so they're just yeah proper shagged that's the sort of era where you're like bumping into JFK yeah it's Bing Crosby and all that type isn't it yeah dirty old dogs that lot yeah yeah big time that was the game sadly for Doug he never won a major but he came as close as he can so he choked on the final hole of the 1970 Open.
29:10Yeah. And he lost. And then it went to it when they used to do an 18-hole playoff the next day. Love that. So, yeah, I know, not a lot of them now like they do sudden death or whatever, or three holes at most. They had to come back the next day. So think about that. Think about that now, right? All the TV companies. I know it sometimes happens in bad weather now, but like 18-hole playoff, everybody comes back, all the volunteers, all the concession stand workers, all the, you know, people who are involved in the infrastructure or everything like that just to watch two blokes slug it out and yeah Jack Nicklaus was the man that beat him ice in his veins certainly compared to Doug Sanders yeah yeah that's as close as he came then that's a real painful show but seriously like great career like you know like everybody knows Doug Sanders mainly because of what we're talking about but hey if we'd have won the Open yeah it'd have been a different thing he said that himself but he was like you know I was rich in other ways he did in later life he developed this condition where he would uncontrollably twitch, which meant that he had to bite his collar while putting.
30:13And in the end, it was making him so miserable, he called a hitman called Tony and said, whack me, arranged it all, set it up. And then the day before the guy was due to whack him, he went and saw the doctor one last time. And the guy was like, look, there is this experimental treatment. We should just try it. It's 50-50. And so he said, I did it. I was in a coma for 10 days, but I lived on. so I stood Tony down. That's amazing. I love the way he obviously just knew a hitman from his like Rat Pack days. Those sort of crime boss pals. So good. And rather than, you know, sticking the car exhaust right into the window.
30:49No, I'll get waxed. People can pretend it was a hit. Exactly. Brilliant. That's so cool. That's rock and roll. Love it. Speaking of rock and roll, everyone we've mentioned in these two parts so far has had a wild streak. But none of them can, none of them can really match the combination of romance and unapologetic chaos as the people's champion john daly do you agree with that i i think in terms of like famed i mean his legacy his legacy will be like how on earth he had the career he did whilst doing all the stuff off course that he did and like there's people now i haven't even seen him play you know i barely remember him play this episode is brought to you by Google Chrome.
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32:41Because boundaries are healthy, like no work emails after six. One small step for boundaries, one big leap for checkout. Pays, it checks out. Activation required. See Pays.com to learn more. Terms and conditions apply. John Daly and like people love him like he just lives on and obviously he was in Happy Gilmore 2 recently oh it's good he plays he can act I can tell you he can act he plays Uncle John so he's basically like he lives in Happy Gilmore's house and like he just lives in the garage and he's fucking he's really good actually really fucking good but yeah but like living up to the whole character he's swigging like you know ethanol and all that stuff it's quite funny but yeah it's partly like the career it's partly just the fact that he doesn't give a shit and obviously the madness I mean like we did an episode on it that if you've enjoyed this you will fucking love that daily episode so go back and listen to it but just to briefly tell the story, the best bit he was an unknown rookie in 1991 when he got a late spot at the PGA Championship so someone pulled out because their wife was having a baby and john daly was the ninth choice alternate yes all the others couldn't make it and he had to overnight hung over drive across america to make the tour i think he slept on the back seat and his friend drove yeah that's right got there no time for a practice round and then against the odds i think he shoots like 69 on the first day yeah and ends up he goes on to win you know this is a major championship so the world's best golfers and they all say that the pga is like the strongest field in golf every good player plays in the pga championship and uh yeah jd turns up you know hung over no practice round no sleep not seeing the course bang wins it wins it incredible that's what people love about him it's the like he hasn't it feels like he's getting by on like pure natural ability absolutely which is just more sexy isn't it nobody has ever ridden natural ability in the way that john daly has and i think that that contributes so much um to the you know the kind of the law of him really and also the fact that you know he turns up he's got like a blonde mullet then this is this is in the days of country club kids with you know bays slacks baggy pringle jumpers with diamonds on and he turns up he's got like a reebok sweater on and long you know and a big mullet no cap with no sponsor goes out plays and actually on the broadcast he He is, I think on our previous, on the podcast episode we did it, he is drinking a beer down the 18th.
35:20He nicks one off somebody in the crowd and drinking just to steady himself walking down the final hole. And he's smoking the whole way around as well. Yeah, it's just a total gear shift from what people are used to. How can you not be charmed by it? As he said, money poured in like piss on a flat rock. It wasn't all good news because suddenly he's a megastar. He estimates over the course of his life, he's lost$55 million in gambling. that's crazy that is mental but he's kind of like i had a good time yeah i mean he will now just sit on a slot machine for like a day just leaving to go to the box which should be depressing and kind of is but he loves it yeah it's so good he also said that he once during an argument with one of his wives he um he had just won fifty thousand dollars and had it in cash and they're arguing in the car and he just opened the window and threw it off the freeway amazing again it's just like something i really love it some of the people we speak about is like they even though this guy's like gambling loads and stuff money isn't the focus for them there's something else that they care about yeah it's an entertainment thing you know like he i've you know you see the video circulating of him still where he's like you know he turns up and he's got no shoes on gets out of the car and he'll go he'll go right where's the first t and what's the course record and he's like got a fag on and a beer in his hand it's brilliant doesn't warm up and like he's obviously plays up to it now he you know he has to it's his caricature it's how he kind of gets by and makes his money um but he's fun oh he's brilliant he's brilliant is it so i think we've talked before about his intake of food and drink his daily intake but it bears repeating so every day in his peak eating years he said he would have three to four trips to mcdonald's where he'd have two big macs two or three cheeseburgers chocolate shake regular coke then he'd have a burger king and a taco bell four to six packs of m &ms multiple packs of chocolate muffins chocolate ice cream 12 to 20 diet cokes over 40 cigarettes and no water he said i don't drink water i hate water i cannot stand to drink water it's so strong so good brilliant isn't it i saw him actually at a like an after dinner thing not that long ago i reckon after we did our podcast where somebody asks him about shagging and they say to him how much you know how much was there of that you know for you and and i bet it came easy and all that when this is like a golf club in northern england i'm thinking fuck that's a bit of a rogue question to ask him he fucking loved it he was like yeah he was like i i you know he was like i loved it he's like and again you know he used tiger as the yardstick and he said you know tiger was tiger was obviously great but he was like he's got nothing on me i thought how good is that just said it in an open forum so good so good but you know the quality may not have been probably but we'll see i think with tiger woods there's like an organized organization to it that john daly probably yeah john daly's story and vibe is like a like a country music star isn't it that like tragedy the boozing the women well he does his country music doesn't he actually plays yeah you were the one who showed me his album whiskey and water.
38:36Yeah, yeah. More whiskey than water. Yeah. I can't stand drink water. I found a quote of him talking about shagging. He said, look, if you think about sex as much as I do, it can get tough out there in a golf tournament. You've got good looking women all over the place. Some of them take off their underpants, sit in the greens and lash you when you come up to pot. Women are always coming up to you in the parking lot and asking you to sign their boobs. Well, I also remember on that pod, we weren't sure what he meant by lash you, but it's actually obvious to me that he means they're whipping you with their underwear.
39:05Whipping him, yeah, with, you know, bless old John. Yeah. Can't be nice. No, no. Bearing the scars of the knickers whipping him over a 20-year golf career. Didn't one of his wives attack him with a steak knife as well to the face? He cops a few blows. Actually, after that PGA win in 91, he had a rough four years. He went to hospital with alcohol poisoning like four or five times. I mean, he had a serious problem. And he arrived at the 1995 Open three million dollars in debt to casinos yeah so he needed cash yeah and this is a stage where people wouldn't really sponsor him right yeah yeah the big boys uh and then he only goes and wins it again so he's now a two-time major winner and he's won the open at the home of golfst andrews i mean what i love is that every time they have the open atst andrews they have to do like a legends thing and you've obviously got you know jack nicholas and uh you know and tiger woods and then you've got like boring people like zach johnson and whatever and then jd rocks up and it's brilliant you it's maybe like this kind of prestigious past champions thing and john daly's there puffing away like you know what i would say that out of everybody there tiger loves it like really tell he really really has this weird admiration for john daly and and i think that's brilliant but it's good you can see all these sort of toffs atst andrews with the little you know cravats on all peering out of the Royal and Ancient Clubhouse watching John Daly in his multicolored trousers ripping a few darts on the first tee so he's guaranteed invite basically yeah he's a former winner former winner at St Andrews it's a shame he never won the Masters so he could do that there Champions dinner would be great wouldn't it although I do love that he always just set up in Hooters car park yeah yeah he was there again this year really yeah yeah that's right just selling his wares yeah if you want to go meet the guy he's just stood there and he's you know he's chippy he does some chipping and putting and, you know, you know, hits the driver off the beer can over the highway and all that.
41:06Yeah. He said when he won that 95 open, he turned down a phone call from president Bill Clinton. Yeah. Because he wanted to go and eat dinner. Yeah. I'm not sure that he and Clinton were. He did also say, besides I didn't vote for him either. exactly. He's quite macy with Trump, isn't he? He's, he's, as we mentioned, Hooters and he have a serious relationship. He's sort of face of Hooters for a long time. Yeah, that's right. somewhat literally actually because one night he's in a Hooters in North Carolina when he got so hammered they had to call an ambulance ambulance came he then refused to get in it or leave the restaurant at which point Hooters despite you know John being their like beloved son they called the police who arrested him and he had to pose for a mugshot in an orange jumpsuit and that branch of Hooters hung it on the wall it's a classic it's a classic photo that isn't it look at that John Daly, public intoxication to passing out in front of a Hooters.
42:03It's a great pick. I think Hooters is folded, hasn't it? I'm not sure. There was one in Nottingham, wasn't there? Yeah, I think the English franchises might have survived. I'm not sure. Oh, really? But I think the, because there's one in Liverpool now, I think. Is there? Weirdly, people often write in about this topic, so let us know. But I have a feeling the one with the mugshot might have. That might have gone, yeah. I know that where he had parked his motorhome up outside Augusta on the Washington Road, that's outside of Hooters. That was definitely there as recently as April. Oh, nice. Okay.
42:35He's still good. Yeah. So he's still getting his fix. Barefoot teeing off. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I recommend that episode highly. It's like a real sort of romantic journey. Brilliant. And there's also an excellent, excellent exchange between he and President Trump there as well, isn't there? Well, where Trump's just talking about bombing Moscow. Yeah. to John Daly and John Daly's got his phone on loudspeaker eating fries brilliant so good a lot of Trump in this episode right well I think that brings us to the end Greggy it's such a shame such a shame but that was great fun really good fun great couple of episodes who's your favourite I was trying to think of a Ryder Cup I guess we could pick like a pair I mean the best one is obviously John Daly you know for kind of the fact that he's just ridden this storm for 30 odd years now and people just love him for it um i've got to say i've got to say the arnold palmer uh you know the the presidential kind of review if you like yeah medal of honor yeah doesn't get better than that brilliant no it does kill me accolades don't come better shove your knighthood nick faldo yeah exactly um i think there are there is so much more that um that i could go on about here um and you would i mean you'd have to seek all kinds of legal advice.
43:55There's one guy that I will give you, a guy called Alejandro Tosti, who is actually a current player and probably about as close as you'll get to, not so much for the shagging and the drugs and all that kind of side of things, but just pure fucking nut casery. This is the man, Alejandro Tosti, current PGA Tour player from Argentina. And when he was on the, I mean, look, the guys had, he had a really tough upbringing. in these terrible kind of mountainous areas where there's not much infrastructure in Argentina. And he learned to play golf with a can that was strapped to a stick in a pebble and all that kind of stuff.
44:36Great story, loads of natural ability, but clearly he's never quite worked out a mind coach. There's loads of stories about him online. I'll tell you that when he got his PGA Tour card, he had to go through a tournament to qualify for it. Usually what they do is they give everybody sort of these fake PGA Tour cards, you know, laminated, and they hold them up and pose for a photo. This guy ran over to where there was some champagne provided by the sponsors just out of shot of the camera, opened one, necked the entire bottle, threw it into the lake that was by the 18th, and then jumped in after it himself.
45:11And he then, he played in the Players' Championship, which is one of the big tournaments, the biggest outside the majors this year. His first time playing in that. And in the practice round, He got a hole in one, right? So not even in the real thing, but he got a hole in one on the 17th hole in the practice round. Loads of people going mental. All golf fans know what a fucking lunatic this guy is. And he jumped into the lake in front of the 17th at Sawgrass to celebrate it. Quickly hauled out by his caddy because there are alligators in there. But like this guy, there are so many stories about this fucking guy.
45:46And like, I love him. Like he got told that he was playing too slowly. so he started walking along with his head dipped like a child would if they'd just been told off dragging his club behind his back this guy is great so if we're doing an episode in 10 years time we might well be talking about Alejandro Tosti all I would say is though is that he just needs to up his game on the shag in front I'm sure he will remember the name alright well Greg that was what a way to finish fantastic one to watch mate thanks so much I've loved that always a pleasure mate yeah Maybe sometime we'll do a Patreon on the really can't talk about rumours.
46:25Yeah, let's do that. The more intimate confines we can talk about the really salacious stuff. Some other names. Mate, always a pleasure to have you on. Thanks so much for having me, mate. If you haven't listened to Greggy on our John Daly and Neil Warnock episodes, highly recommend it. I forgot about the Warnock one. Yeah, different vibes slightly. Very different vibe. Very different, but excellent. Thanks so much for listening to this two-parter. Do share it with your golf-loving friends and we'll see you next time. Thanks a lot.
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