Winter Olympics: Hitler’s mistress and hot tub orgies

10 Feb 2026 · 1 h 6 min · 29 chapters

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Podcast Episode Summary: The Upshot - Winter Olympics: Hitler’s Mistress and Hot Tub Orgies

Episode Overview In this episode of *The Upshot*, hosts Jack and Zachary delve into the wild and bizarre history of the Winter Olympics, highlighting scandalous stories that capture the essence of sportsmanship and chaos. From infamous figures like Hitler's mistress to outlandish doping habits and peculiar Olympic traditions, the discussion paints a vivid picture of the less glamorous side of sports.

Key Themes & Topics

  1. Introduction to the Winter Olympics
  2. Contrast between Usain Bolt's achievements and absurdity of Winter Olympic stories.
  3. Reference to past athletes and their outrageous antics, including spies and orgies.
  1. Historical Anecdotes from Early Winter Olympics
  2. First Winter Olympics (1924):
  3. Team GB won gold in curling, with Scottish farmers competing.
  4. Noteworthy for its casual approach to sport, reminiscent of modern-day casual competitions.
  • Early Competitors:
  • Mention of tragic events, like British mountaineers' failures and the extreme conditions they faced (e.g., frostbite leading to a frozen member).
  • Discussion of the British Mount Everest expedition and the contrasting outcomes for Sherpas vs. British competitors.
  1. Notable Characters
  2. Sonja Henney:
  3. An 11-year-old skating prodigy who later became close to Hitler, sparking controversy for her actions, including Nazi salutes.
  4. Her charm and subsequent Hollywood career, aided by connections to the Nazi regime, illustrate the intersection of sport and politics.
  • Ingo Stoyer:
  • A celebrated figure skater who spied for the Stasi, revealing the dark side of competition and national allegiance.
  • The scrutiny surrounding his past highlights tension within the sports community.
  1. Scandals and Controversies
  2. Doping in Winter Sports:
  3. Historical instances of athletes using amphetamines, including notable events where competitors collapsed due to drug use.
  4. The evolution of doping regulations and its implications for athletes.
  • Tonya Harding and the Nancy Kerrigan Incident:
  • The infamous attack that defined media coverage of the Winter Olympics in the 90s.
  • Discussion of the motivations behind the attack and its impact on both skaters’ careers.
  1. Cultural Observations
  2. Commentary on the perceived elitism of Winter Olympic sports, often dominated by wealthy nations and individuals.
  3. Examining the dynamics of attraction within the sports community, highlighting agendas and rivalries.
  1. Modern Day Winter Olympic Culture
  2. Insights into the notorious reputation of athletes from the 2010 Vancouver Olympics, where condom distributions and orgies became commonplace.
  3. Anecdotes about quirky interactions and scandals that continue to shape the Winter Olympic narrative.

Key Takeaways

  • The Winter Olympics, while often celebrated for athletic prowess, contain a rich tapestry of scandal, camaraderie, and chaos.
  • Figures like Sonja Henney illustrate how sports can intertwine with politics, leading to complicated legacies.
  • Doping scandals and unsavory actions reveal the lengths competitors will go to achieve glory, often at great personal risk.
  • The episode serves as a reminder that behind every medal is a story, often unforgettable and outrageous.

Conclusion This episode of *The Upshot* not only sheds light on the less-discussed aspects of the Winter Olympics but also entertains with anecdotes that blend history, humor, and a touch of irreverence. The hosts effectively capture the spirit of the Olympics, reminding us that sports are not just about competition, but also about the colorful characters and stories that emerge from the pursuit of gold.

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Winter Olympics History and Culture

1:42 to 2:54

Explore the quirky history and culture surrounding the Winter Olympics.

“I'm Jack and slipping into his salopettes is Zachary Sweeney Lynch.”

Inequality in Winter Sports

2:54 to 3:56

Discuss the affluent nature of winter sports and its competitors.

“a lot of the Winter Olympic sports use some very expensive equipment, skiing, snowboarding.”

Frostbite and Fatalities in Sports

3:56 to 5:50

Learn about extreme cases and dangers athletes face, including frostbite.

“So basically everyone skis, everyone bobsleds to work.”

Legendary Winter Olympics Moments

5:50 to 8:05

Relive some of the most unforgettable and humorous moments from the Olympics.

“Do you remember there was the Finnish skier whose cock froze during a cross-country race.”

Acknowledging Contributions

8:05 to 8:21

Express gratitude to contributors and set the stage for deeper discussions.

“You know that world I've just slagged off for the last five minutes.”

First Winter Olympiad in 1924

8:21 to 9:10

Delve into the highlights and participants of the inaugural Winter Olympics.

“But yeah, should we go all the way back to the first Winter Olympiad?”

British Mount Everest Expedition

9:10 to 10:25

Examine the ill-fated British expedition to Everest and its outcomes.

“I think they just saw a little post-it note in the local post office and decided to go.”

The Sherpas' Untold Story

10:25 to 14:01

Uncover the overlooked contributions of Sherpas in historical expeditions.

“But just to give you a bit of a background on the 1922 expedition was actually the first expedition that had the aim of reaching the summit of Everest.”

The Perils of Everest Expeditions

14:01 to 16:41

Explore the challenges faced by early British climbers attempting Everest.

“and their porters they made two aborted attempts to reach the summit of Everest before being forced back to their camp somewhere on the somewhere on the mountain in.”

The Tragic Avalanche Incident

16:41 to 18:45

Learn about the avalanche that ended the first British expedition to Everest.

“Someone's kicked two holes in it and it shattered like porcelain.”
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The Legacy of Early Mountaineers

18:45 to 22:44

Discover the aftermath of the expedition and the legacy of George Mallory.

“Get in the game and sign up for the Venmo debit card at venmo.com slash college card.”

Sonia Henny: From Underdog to Champion

24:59 to 26:06

Learn about figure skater Sonia Henny's rise in the 1924 Olympics.

“As we'll see, they really become pinups.”

Controversy at the 1936 Olympics

26:06 to 28:00

Delve into the controversies surrounding Sonia Henny and Nazi Germany.

“Was it, was it seen as like, in the same way that at the, Qatar World Cup, Messi, they, they got Messi to put on the, Yeah, I think it's exactly like that.”

Sonia and Hitler: A Controversial Relationship

28:00 to 29:22

Explore the complex relationship between Sonia and Hitler, including her motivations and the implications of her actions.

“What do you think shagging Hitler would be like?”

The Nazi Invasion and Its Impact on Sonia

29:22 to 31:08

Learn how the Nazi invasion of Norway affected Sonia's life and her career in Hollywood.

“She had a big movie career, but the Nazis invaded Norway, I think that year.”

Doping Scandals at the Winter Olympics

32:34 to 34:36

Examine doping incidents in the Winter Olympics, starting from 1952 to the significance of rules being implemented.

“So if you're not abroad or otherwise, salie.com forward slash Führer for a 30 % discount.”

Cannabis Controversy in Snowboarding

34:36 to 36:42

Delve into the uproar surrounding snowboarding's inclusion in the Olympics and the cannabis scandal involving Ross Rabagliati.

“I guess pentathlon, they do shooting, don't they?”

Ryan Wedding: From Olympian to Drug Trafficker

36:42 to 37:58

Discover the shocking transition of Olympian Ryan Wedding into a major cocaine trafficker.

“He doesn't look, he looks more like a cyclist or like almost more of the sort of like posh skier vibe.”

Eddie the Eagle: The Underdog Hero

37:58 to 42:00

Celebrate the story of Eddie the Eagle, Britain's first ski jumper, and his heartwarming journey in the Olympics.

“I think we should actually because there are a lot of ins and outs.”

The Underestimated Olympics: Eric the Eel and Jamaican Bobsled Team

42:00 to 42:54

Learn about the unlikely Olympic competitors who captivated audiences.

“Anyway, after that, after the complaints of Norwegians and East Germans, the International Olympic Committee changed the rules.”

Training Challenges of the Jamaican Bobsled Team

42:54 to 45:00

Discover the training hurdles faced by Jamaica's first bobsled team.

“But like a lot of it is accurate and quite mad, the broad strokes.”

The Thrilling Bobsled Experience and Unexpected Setbacks

45:00 to 48:22

Explore the dynamics of bobsled racing and the team's early struggles.

“I love the idea that it's just first step.”

The Emotional Moment in Bobsled History

48:22 to 49:06

Witness the poignant reaction to a team's crash and the crowd's support.

Ingo Stoyer: The Bobsled and Stasi Connection

49:06 to 52:08

Uncover the dark history of a decorated figure skater turned informant.

“but But not all competitors at the 1988 Games were worthy of a feel-good Disney blockbuster.”

The Scandal of Tonya Harding and Nancy Kerrigan

52:08 to 56:00

Delve into the infamous attack that rocked the figure skating world.

“It's probably like the most famous Winter Olympics game.”

The Bumbling Attempt on Nancy Kerrigan

56:00 to 57:22

Learn about the chaotic attempt on Nancy Kerrigan's life and its aftermath.

“If you want a job done properly, do it yourself.”

Tonya Harding's Olympic Journey and Scandals

57:22 to 59:06

Explore Tonya Harding's Olympic experience and controversies surrounding her.

“Anyway, it's still disputed whether she tried to orchestrate the attack.”

Winter Olympics: The Party Scene

59:06 to 1:01:14

Discover the wild party culture and scandals at the Winter Olympics.

“Unless you're part of the Jamaican bobsled team.”

Controversial Outfits and Performances

1:01:14 to 1:04:00

Discuss the most outrageous outfits and performances at the Winter Olympics.

“At the same games, there was a bit of a scandal because the Russian figure skaters turned up in Aboriginal themed outfits.”
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1:19But has he ever been strapped to a tea tray and hurled headfirst down Mont Blanc? And he never shagged Hitler, murdered his rivals, or got high before races either. But I know some people who did. From Stasi spies to hot tub orgies. Buckle into your bobsled for the wildest stories in Winter Olympic history. Welcome back to The Upshot. I'm Jack and slipping into his salopettes is Zachary Sweeney Lynch. Hello, Jack. Hello. I was sort of hoping you were going to go for the sequined. The sequined or the sort of figure skater. Yeah. Yeah. Because they're hard. That's like half the competition, isn't it?

1:57Yeah, I do. I did at one time have a, I told you before I did trampolining and we had to wear like a little leotard for that. Sequins? The girls one had sequins on, the boys one didn't. What did the boys one have? Dragons? It was just a sort of black and blue pattern. It was quite fetching actually. I feel like it is in the figure skating and stuff, it's half the competition. It's like the outfits. Yeah, because there's a guy in this one who is dressed as a minion and he's had this like copyright dispute with Universal Studios because he wants to use the minion soundtrack. It's just... What serious sport is doing that?

2:41Yeah, but I mean, as we'll find, this is not serious sport. This is the posh gay Olympics, isn't it? It's like, it's Swiss dukes. Yeah. International Business Administration students. Yeah, I guess because a lot of the Winter Olympic sports use some very expensive equipment, skiing, snowboarding. They're sports for rich people. Yeah, there's a lot of people whose family made slightly too much money in German industry in the 1930s. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of... They're quite Aryan, Winter Olympic competitors. Yeah, it's a good advert for sort of like eugenics-y. It's very blonde. I checked, the all-time leading medal winner I was shocked Norway is that shocking?

3:295 million people in Norway aren't there? yeah but like I guess the Winter Olympics for them is the World Cup or the Summer Olympics because like the thing like most of these countries the other countries that are good like Germany, France stuff like that like they have obviously mountain regions but like a large part of the country is just normal normal whereas Norway pretty much the whole country is under snow for a large part of the year, right? So basically everyone skis, everyone bobsleds to work. And you've got a eugenics program, so everyone's good at skiing, a blonde. I also think, because Great Britain are shit at this, in my mind, it's just like, it's in the same category as handball and equestrian.

4:15It's like, it's not really sport. It's trans world sports stuff. It's Eurosport. Do you ever go on holiday when you're younger and there's a TV and you're like, oh, they've got sports channels, great. And you put it on and it's like, right, I'm either watching Corfball or Luge. It's just like a load of stuff. Yeah, it's like Paddle has come into that category now, right? There are some people in this country who you see who watch snow sports on YouTube. You come across them? GoPro owners, in my experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would check their SD cards. Something not right about those people. But yeah, I guess what we're saying is, yes this is technically sport but it's not what it's not in this it's in by the letter it's sport but it's not in the spirit in my opinion tomato is a fruit but you wouldn't eat one like on the walk to work yeah this is sport but i don't want to watch it i'm sort of with you and i'm sort of not because i think that the winter olympic sports are so like adrenaline fueled that is actually i think it's a pretty good watch the winter olympics like there's so much peril in these sports it's like if you fuck this up you will actually die yeah that's true but i can already now smell the fumes of monster energy drink from the sort of like, there's like a sort of stoner side to this.

5:25Yeah. You know what I mean? There's also, you know, just people who don't wash their hair enough. Glass houses. But yeah, I mean, one upside of all that criticism, I should say, is that they're, like you say, it's elite sport, but also like they're quite normal people. It's like people who have to also lead normal lives. So you get fruitier scandals than you would get from a footballer yeah yeah yeah yeah nobody uh i think is mobbing britain's team gb's skeleton rider when they go to the shops yeah which means that they end up you get some quite good capers which obviously in upshot terms is great news because that's what we're here to talk about let's talk about the fruity shit also what i will admit is the last winter games in beijing the last one yeah Beijing was 22.

6:16Do you remember there was the Finnish skier whose cock froze during a cross-country race. Yeah. He needed a heat pack to unthaw it. So apparently, I looked it up. Spent an hour and 16 minutes in minus 17 conditions. He said the pain was unbearable. I guess he, that's frostbite, right? Yeah. You think it's going to fall off? Yeah. Yeah, because like, does it, because when people get frostbite in like the fingers and toes, they go sort of black, don't they? Do you reckon that happens? Yeah. Or purple. And I think you have to run under cold water, don't you? Maybe there's a different method for this fella.

6:48And then there was also a genuinely great moment when an Australian speed skater was coming last, obviously. He's Australian. Until the final corner of this race when all his rivals took each other out. Got a clip of it, actually. Pass Apollo on and once this guy gets to the lead, he's almost impossible. The pass skates a great deal. The corner's tight. But the Chinese skater on the outside. Oh, and it's a lot of contact. Oh! and he's come through yes i can't believe it is that a gold medal that's gold yes

7:26snowboards slalom is it one of the snowboard races where um this woman in the final was so far ahead i forget her name and on the final jump she was like showboat she like did a trick and fucked it and fell and lost. Lindsay Jacobellis. Was that it? Because she, yeah, she didn't need to do the trick. It was pure flair and it cost her the race. And then she didn't, I think the next four Winter Olympics she entered, she didn't get a medal. She was always like tipped as a favorite. And then last time in Beijing, she finally won gold. Oh, really? Aged like late 30s. She just did it. So it was a happy ending.

7:59Yeah. Before we begin, actually, thanks to Francesca who sent us a lot of stories. I don't know if she's sort of of this world of skating and other snow sports. You know that world I've just slagged off for the last five minutes. Sorry, Francesca. Should we be enjoying this with a glass of monster energy right now? Or a glue vine? Yeah. Anyway, yeah. Thanks, Francesca, for all your help. She sent us a lot of stories. But yeah, should we go all the way back to the first Winter Olympiad? Yeah, let's do it. So the first Winter Games took place in 1924 in Chamonix in the French Alps. and I'm glad to report it was gold for Team GB.

8:39Gold in the curling. It's always curling. It's always curling. So it was these four Scottish farmers from Lanarkshire, I think it was, or Southern Scotland and they had been unable to farm during the winter months so they'd spent their winter out on the frozen locks doing curling with rocks basically and got pretty good at it and they heard about these winter games and decided to give it a go So got the train over there and won gold before fucking off to the Alps for two weeks. This is obviously the era where you just sort of rock up and have a go. Yeah. Yeah. I think they just saw a little post-it note in the local post office and decided to go.

9:21They actually weren't the only gold for Team GB in that Games though, because at the closing ceremony, the founder of the modern olympics guy called pierre de corbettan decided to award an olympic gold medal to in alpinism to 21 members of the failed 1922 british mount everest expedition oh right so they actually had nothing they weren't competing at the olympics he just decided to dish out dish out these gold medals to them so we're looking at a picture of the expedition here the guy in the middle the large fella big boy is Charles G. Bruce who was the expedition leader we've also got his deputy Colonel Edward Strutt and the mountaineer George Mallory good sort of arrogant public school names there yeah can we just look at that picture so it's these are these are the it's the Harrow First 15 it basically is yeah it's like a load of a load of posh public school boys who decided they wanted to climb Everest to give their life some kind of purpose.

10:26It's a gap year, isn't it? Yeah. And they didn't make it all the way up Everest, but they did get their hands on gold medals, which is more than can be said for the seven Nepalese Sherpas who died in an avalanche as a result of Mallory's irresponsible actions on the mountain, which we'll get onto in a minute. But just to give you a bit of a background on the 1922 expedition was actually the first expedition that had the aim of reaching the summit of Everest. So nobody had actually been up there before. Um, it was made up of 13 Brits who decided to go up for some reason, dressed in tweed jackets, silk scarves, and woolen underwear.

11:08Is that the warmest clothes available or just like got to look, got to wear your Sunday best base camp yeah you're gonna die in a tweed jacket on Everest surely yeah well actually so we'll come on to this later but they later like found the bodies of some of them and one of the they like analysed their kit and stuff and apparently it was actually quite decent like they were wearing tweed jackets maybe underneath but they had some decent gear I mean it's quite First World War just sort of walking in close step into machine gun fire with your medals on just like yeah yeah they were also these 13 Brits were accompanied by 150 quarters right what 10 each and 20 spares yeah yeah you'll be surprised to hear that they did not get their hands on gold medals well not a single so these are Nepalese Sherpas they're Nepalese Nepalese Sherpas yeah did one Nepal get to get to medal at the game they were definitely I don't know about now maybe they have but yeah they had 10 each so yeah these Sherpas they got a pretty raw deal in the whole thing so no one's bothered to record their names let alone gold medals they didn't really have warm clothes and they also had to carry much heavier packs than all the Brits who were going up because they're carrying everyone's stuff they're carrying everyone's stuff so they they were loaded up with corned beef Heinz baked beans spaghetti condensed milk ginger biscuits Ovaltine Kendall mint cakes and shit loads of tea it's my granny's larder exactly big cat food I don't know if that was the Nepalese Sherpas food of choice on the mountain you guys love Ovaltine don't you we're not getting any anyway so yeah you can eat each other yeah so they're basically carrying all the supplies and and the the Harrow lads are just sort of the Harrow lads are pissing at each other's water bowls.

13:16Getting their asses out on the mountain. They might as well carry them. Well, apparently Charles Bruce, the expedition leader, also liked to personally test the fitness of the Sherpas by jumping on their backs. He's a big boy as well. He's a big boy, Charles Bruce. Oxygen's getting thin. You're halfway up Everest. You've got a bag full of corned beef and novelty the last thing you need or Brucie on your back it'd be really classic if you carried me for the last bit it'd be so classic

13:55he's gonna smear shit in your face as well isn't he so the group all these Brits and their porters they made two aborted attempts to reach the summit of Everest before being forced back to their camp somewhere on the somewhere on the mountain in. After their second attempt, they had quite severe frostbite. One of them came back and dialed 17 mugs of tea and then decided to try and make homemade ice cream with snow, condensed milk, and strawberry jam. That's probably not far off. Apparently it was horrible. You've got all the key ingredients there. Not exactly in the form you want them. I would like to try that.

14:35Next time it snows, we'll head out. I like that they get back and these these four Sherpas like trying to like put the camp up put the camp up like try and you know get some food that will sustain them that's like Rajan make look Rajan we're making some ice cream over here I made you a vanilla it's just snow 17 mugs of tea I guess you're fucking hungry yeah so at that point I think the Sherpas were like lads like this is it's not going to happen but they insist on going up which this third attempt it really shouldn't have happened a lot of the mountaineers were were sick they were just shattered uh but a few of them insisted on making another attempt to get up to the summit and mallory was was particularly keen he led a group of group of porters up there and they reached this icy steep slope which really they shouldn't have got up they should have just found another path but yeah he had to get back in time to watch the rugby yeah so uh So he sent the porters up this slope.

15:42Unfortunately, that triggered an avalanche, which buried seven porters alive. And after that, I think the rest of the porters were like, guys, we are turning back. And that was it. The expedition was over. Oh, so they actually did. They did turn back after that. It's safe to say that Charles Bruce wasn't too gutted about the fatalities. So after getting back to safety down the mountain, he did an interview where he said, we had about a fortnight's work clearing up business matters, which included proper provision for the families of the unfortunate porters who'd been lost in the avalanche. Thus ended the first attempt to climb Mount Everest.

16:18I think on the whole, he may be quite satisfied with the results. Yeah, I mean, they got quite far. And to be fair to him, it sounds like he actually sorted the families out. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if, I don't know if the seven children of the Nepalese showpers will be that satisfied with the results. We've awarded you school colours. great anyway so they go back to the UK after that and Mallory embarks on this speaking tour to try and raise funds to do another attempt to get to the summit and in June 1924 so this is four months after they'd received their Olympic gold medal at Chamonix Mallory was back up on Everest making another attempt he was last seen alive on the 8th of June 1924 and his body wasn't found until May 1999 75 years later because is it just preserved up in Everest?

17:16I actually got a picture of his lifeless corpse here it's sort of mummified yeah because he's cracked two comments about his arse firstly it's fucking pert I mean he's been up and down Everest about four or five times by this point That is a really good arse. It's a good arse, yeah. Someone's kicked two holes in it and it shattered like porcelain. It's weird, because it almost looks like the inside of his body has been eaten out. There's no flesh. Or like decayed. But it's just, it is like a porcelain model of his body. Yeah, you're right. It's like a mummy. It's like hard and cracked and then there's just nothing in there.

17:55Yeah. And actually his right leg's gone. It's quite an odd colour as well. How do they know it's him? The arse, probably. Famous arse. putt arse like that hasn't been seen at Harrow ever since yeah I think they found some stuff on his person right that confirmed it was him he was surrounded by 30 dead Sherpas there's only one man that could be and some ice a tin of ovaltine some homemade ice one of them had it yeah he was spooning corned beef into his dying corpse that's a mad pick so he got his gold medal for trying which fair play because at the time it was unexplored it was tough yeah you gotta say that's amazing to get that close I sort of get it and then he went back and then he went back and sadly perished but his arse was preserved for us to enjoy great opportunity yeah yeah so that was the first games so two goals for Team GB two goals for Team GB none for Nepal have that have that you fucking Sherpas get in the game with the college branded Venmo debit card wreck your team with every tap and earn up to 5 % cash back with Venmo Stash, a new rewards program from Venmo.

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21:03So she came last, but real hit with the crowds. And by the next tournament where she's 15, she's a real superstar and she wins gold. And then actually she wins gold in, sorry, she wins medals in three consecutive winter games, including Garmisch-Partenkirchen in 1936, which is a lovely little Bavarian town just south of Mount Wank. We're looking at a map here. Lovely. Also got a poster for Wank Barn. That is a great poster. Yeah, so Wank Barn's the lift. Yeah. Thing about Mount Wank, very hard to get up, but the climax is worth it. So yeah, the cleanup after those Olympic Games was rough, really.

21:51The legacy, the games weren't very well. Inspire a generation. Yeah, the legacy wasn't much. Yeah, so Mount Wank is home to the Wank House Restaurant and Wank Pass. And yeah, it's where the tournament was held. Although weirdly, they went for the Garmisch Partenkirchen as the name rather than Wank. The Wank Pass. 1936 Wank would have been more hard hitting. The Wank Olympics. Yeah. Also known, by the way, as the Nazi Winter Olympics. So this is the summer counterpart, which, you know, the 1936 Olympics gets all the attention, the summer one in Berlin. because obviously Jesse Owens stood up to Hitler and humiliated him really by winning.

22:34Sonia was at the winter edition. I have to say she ain't no Jesse Owens. She took a different stance as we'll see, but she was determined to win at these games and to get to success on Mount Wank, she was willing to be a ruthless bastard. She got to the German border early for training, like a few weeks ahead of the Olympics and already she began to compete. So she decided to stitch up her main rival, a woman called Vivian Holton, who was traveling from Sweden. So she got there like a bit before Vivian and she told the border guards to check out Vivian because she'll be smuggling jewelry on her person.

23:13So when Vivian Holton arrived at the German border, she was strip searched and detained for seven hours. Wow. Mind games have begun. This is sort of the 1930s version of like fireworks at the team hotel isn't it? But it's like strip search by Nazi border guards. try and get them put in a prison camp. Holton obviously was furious about this when she was eventually let go and so she complained to her good friend Joseph Goebbels. Okay. Yeah. So apparently Goebbels was a big figure skating fan. There's something quite sinister about that. I mean, it's not the most sinister thing about Joseph Goebbels but I feel like that plays into it figure skating.

23:53well i was because they're all quite young and blonde and like yeah but i was thinking about this so because figure skaters were apparently big pinups in this era yeah but if you think about now like you step out the house and you there's sexualized imagery everywhere billboards um you're gonna say you step out the house now the way women dress no modesty is there you've seen those harlots on every street no but you know what I mean like adverts on your phone like you're seeing a lot more sort of like semi nudity and stuff there was a woman on the train the other day with her ankles out sickening but you know back then honestly it's paintings and then it's like events like this it's cabaret if you can afford it and so like something like figure skating where they're really fit and graceful and then their outfits are quite skimpy it must have been it's basically pornography and you're on Mount Wank you're on Mount Wank He certainly climbed Mount Wang by the end.

24:50I think the real Wang Olympics took place halfway up. I've never seen it.

24:57With an ass like that. So I kind of get how they were pinups. As we'll see, they really become pinups. But anyway, so Vivianne Holton, she's been strip searched by these border guards. She's been detained. She then complains to Joseph Goebbels, who he goes to the border and forces the border guard to get down on his knees and apologize to her. So, she's got friends in high places. I'm not sure how she's got such good access to the Nazi high command. Wait, this is Hulton has friends. Yes, this is Hulton. Although, well, as we see, Sonja actually outdoes her on that front as well because Sonja ends up becoming close pals with the Fuhrer himself, Adolf Hitler.

25:39So she wins gold, Sonja, she beats Vivian and when she meets Hitler to get her medal, she decides to greet him with a salute, a Nazi salute. She says, Harl Hitler as well. Really goes for it. Yeah. Yeah. It's aged badly. Yeah. Vivian Holton refuses. She says, I'm Swedish. We don't do that. Okay. But, I don't know, Norway, I guess Sweden were neutral. Norway were invaded. What was the, what was the general vibe at this Olympics? Do we know? Did a lot of people do Nazi salutes? Was it, was it seen as like, in the same way that at the, Qatar World Cup, Messi, they, they got Messi to put on the, Yeah, I think it's exactly like that.

26:16The like dress. I think maybe a slightly higher stakes version, obviously. It's a bit like when John Terry and Wayne Bridge didn't shake hands. It was like, oh, will they, will they? Like it was, the press were really asking them, will you? And Vivian Holton was like, nah, I'm all right. I'm mates with Goebbels anyway. My credentials are good. Whereas Sonia Henney was just, she just fucking went for it. So we're looking at a picture of Sonia Henney shaking Adolf Hitler's hand in the foothills of Mount Wank. Like, anyway, afterwards, Hitler invited her for lunch at his home in Berchtesgaden in Bavaria, where he presented her with a signed photo of himself.

26:53Is that what you... Is that the gift you give? I guess it is. I sort of get it if she was giving him a photo of herself, because see above, it's sort of a pervy thing. But I guess the cult personality is so big. I told you I met a new guy, I do know a guy, who used to go out with Mark Crossley's daughter. and Mark Crossley, the former Nottingham Forest goalkeeper. And for his birthday, Mark Crossley gave him a signed copy of Mark Crossley's autobiography. At least he signed it. Yeah. He's got a room full of those, surely. Your stepdad. Yeah, Neil Warnock used to rock around with a bum bag of signed photos, didn't he?

27:35Hand them out. Yeah. Anyway, rumors spread that Sonja Henney and Adolf Hitler were actually shagging. They had a romantic affair, which, very plausible. She's certainly his type. That is unconfirmed, but it is common knowledge in the skating world that she was sleeping with all her dance partners, apparently. So according to fellow dancer Susan Strong Davis, she said, Sonia slept with them all. She was always in bed with somebody. Wow. What do you think shagging Hitler would be like? Frightening, because he's very like, he's a rabid dog, isn't he? Yeah, I can't imagine he's got a lot of like, I don't think there's much gentleness or tenderness.

28:18No, no, no. It's plugging away until he's done. Also, he's got the sort of hair that would flick up.

28:26It'd be like one of his speeches. It's like his gritted teeth. Yeah, it'd be like one of his speeches. They're like manic and rabid. Hard and fast. Also, wasn't he, isn't the whole thing now that he was on loads of drugs? Yeah, is he going to be like frothing at the mouth? Is he going to be on his meth handshake-y speech-making? or an opioid to come down. Yeah. Yeah. Was he a big shagger? I've never really heard. David Brown. Yeah. Anyway, I should say, Sonia herself denied that she was ever a Nazi or had sympathies for Hitler. She said she only saluted him to curry favor in the votes in the figure skating.

29:04It worked. Yeah, it worked. She won. Although that would be slightly easier to believe had she not kept the signed photo he gave her on her mantelpiece at home in Norway, which actually ended up doing her real favours once again, because by 1940, she'd moved to Hollywood. She became like a really famous actress in Hollywood. She had a big movie career, but the Nazis invaded Norway, I think that year. And the Nazi troops are going from house to house, just looting. And eventually they got to her home. But when they broke in, they saw this signed photo of the Fuhrer on her mantelpiece. And so they decided to leave her property untouched.

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29:41which is a good life hack always keep a sign photo of Hitler on your mantelpiece just in case so I don't know maybe again she was thinking tick your head maybe she saw the writer on the wall what you think she's like the Nazis will need to secure that northern border they'll need to secure the North Sea with Britain so they will invade Norway at which point my house will be looted so I should leave the picture she's sort of like Bezos and Zuckerberg coming out for Trump yeah she sees which way the wind is blowing. She's very cynical. Yeah. I like that. Well, well, good thinking. Actually, a lot of those figure skaters became Hollywood stars.

30:19Oh yeah. I think it was. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, there wasn't much else going on, was there? Yeah. Just the events of Mount Wank. Actually, if you are a Nazi Obergruppenführer who finds yourself in Fleckfjord rifling through the possessions of a Hollywood actress, you're going to want to get some pics for the lads back home. aren't you? Show them where you are. And then imagine how gutted you be if you had no data because your Nazi phone provider doesn't cover Norway. Reich's phone. Yeah. I was trying to think of Nazi phone networks and all I could think of was eugenics everywhere for EE. It's quite hard.

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32:18So yeah, download Saley in the app store. It's S-A-I-L-Y. And then use code Upshot and you'll get 15 % off. I've also linked to it in the description box. You can go to salie.com forward slash upshot. Yeah. So if you're not abroad or otherwise, salie.com forward slash Führer for a 30 % discount. Right. So fast forwarding through the siege of Stalingrad and other grim events of the 1940s, when the Winter Olympics did return in 1952, things kicked up a notch. So it was hosted in Oslo in 1952. There were 694 athletes from 30 different nations competing. and boy were they competing particularly the speed skaters several of whom seemed to be acting very aggressively on the day of their event which prompted the physician to go and check out their locker rooms where he found broken vials and syringes and at the time there were actually no rules about doping so he just kept his findings to himself until the race was about to start when half a dozen skaters collapsed.

33:28They were suffering from faintness and pounding hearts. And it turned out they'd been taking quite a lot of amphetamines. So a lot of them were then carted straight off to hospital. Speed. Put the speed in speed skating. A bit of whiz. It would make sense that an amphetamine would help you. Yeah, I mean, on our, which episode was it? We did the 1904 marathon from the 1904 Olympics and that was, they were doped up to the eyeballs. Yeah. With rat poison and various other, a lot of, there were a lot of amphetamines. A lot of champagne as well. Champagne. That's just the era. Yeah. That's Everest space camp stuff.

34:07Champagne. Champagne. Champagne and rat poison. So this was actually the first time that athletes were caught doping at the Winter Olympics. And it kicked off quite a, quite a proud tradition. But then obviously back then it was, it was totally fine. the Olympics, summer and winter, didn't actually ban performance-enhancing drugs until 1967. The first person who was disqualified was a Swedish pentathlete who had drunk two beers before his event. So in his words, steady the nerves. Is that doping? I guess pentathlon, they do shooting, don't they? They do shooting, yeah. You're probably better off for a couple.

34:46Yeah, it's a bit like darts and snookers, isn't it? I don't know if I want them having a gun. But, um, uh, yeah, so that was, that was the first time. There's another good story actually from Nagano, 1998 of drug use. So Nagano, it was the first time that snowboarding had been included in the Winter Olympics. And there was a bit of, bit of an uproar about this because the kind of, the whole vibe of snowboarding was a bit, you know, a bit young, a bit alternative, a bit more fruity. and it really contrasted with this like quite stuffy um traditional past of the winter olympics where yeah it was just you know international students and gay swiss dukes yeah so what we're going they did like the vibe we're going from like guys in like tight trousers with like striped shirts on and like sort of like chelsea boots and suddenly the stoners come in in their huge shoes and baggy jeans yeah exactly exactly you can see it's a culture clash yeah it's the sort of is the jackass crowd turned up to the rich olympics for the first time and the traditionalists were a bit on edge about this they weren't too happy and their fears did come true when canadian ross rabagliati won the snowboarding giant slalom and immediately tested positive for cannabis excellent um so he was he was disqualified after that but actually got his medal back a few weeks later because the IOC realized that weed actually wasn't on the list of banned substances.

36:16So he was fine. So he still got his gold. He still got his gold. He actually, he claimed that he hadn't been smoking himself and that it had been secondhand smoke, which would be slightly easier to believe if he was not now a major entrepreneur in the cannabis industry. Look at a picture of him cradling a humongous bud. Yeah. Oh, so he sells weed now. He sells weed, yeah. He's a drug dealer. Yeah. He doesn't look, he looks more like a cyclist or like almost more of the sort of like posh skier vibe. Yeah. I was hoping for fat dreads. Yeah, you want long, long, greasy hair. Yeah, like just maybe some like what's it dust on the chin.

36:58Energy drink in hand. Yeah, quick silver jeans. Yeah, exactly. Hawaiian shirt sort of vibe. Four years later, there was an even bigger drug lord in the snowboarding event, Ryan Wedding. Friend of the pod. Yeah, friend of the pod, Ryan Wedding. So anyone who's followed Extra Shot, our other podcast for the past year or so, we've been following his case in quite a lot of detail. Brief overview, he finished 24th in the 2002 Winter Olympics in snowboarding, hung up his boots and board after that and threw himself into the world of cocaine trafficking. so he was a major cocaine trafficker for about a decade or two decades in fact uh shipping millions of dollars worth of cocaine from mexico and latin america into the us and canada he was on the fbi's most wanted for several years until he was finally tracked down a few weeks ago he was arrested um and he's looking at a long stretch behind bars yeah uh for we're gonna do an episode on him.

38:04I think we should actually because there are a lot of ins and outs. And funny. Lots of him basically murdering witnesses. Also the FBI operation is called Operation Giant Slalom. Yeah. Investigating his avalanche of crimes. They're having fun with it. They weren't taking it seriously. Maybe they should have done. Anyway, we've talked a lot about him in the past and we might do a full episode. So yeah, leave it at that for him for now. Yeah. Much more wholesome scenes at the 1988 games in Calgary, which was, it was the underdog games. A lot of sort of unlikely heroes ended up being the stars. Firstly, Eddie the Eagle, Edwards, Britain's first ever Olympic ski jumper.

38:45We're looking at a picture of him. He looks like Jimmy Hill in Burkheim, I would say. Yeah, he's a funny looking fella. He's got Jimmy Hill's chin. You're sort of like, because was that look cool at the time? Because now, if you just listen to this, he's got like, he's got very short hair, very big glasses, mustache. He looks like a Berlin graphic designer. Yeah. With Jimmy Hill's chin and eyes. I emphasize. But yeah, there's, um, was that, was that a cool look at the time? Cause he's kind of trendy nerd. Yeah. I think 1988 is the other time where this look is cool, isn't it? Do you think? Yeah.

39:24Where moustaches are like in because there's basically now and the 80s is when that look is cool and any other time in history you're an absolute weirdo I thought his name was Eddie Edwards but it's a nickname I was disappointed to learn but everyone calls him Eddie and he got his first taste of skiing on a school trip age 13 and fell in love with it and when he got home he started doing dry slopes which I always think is that's crossing a line for me dry slopes anyway and it became his obsession that he wants to be in the British downhill skiing team but then he realised it would be easier to get in the ski jumping team because it's cheaper to do it and Britain didn't have any ski jumpers so there's literally no competition getting to the Olympics you just got to enter so he contacted the British Ski Federation who said alright we're up for it you can go to the 1988 Games but you have to jump 50 metres in a competition to qualify, which is like pretty fucking daunting.

40:26Anyway, he's set to work at it and it's an expensive hobby. So he said, I begged, borrowed and stole equipment and slept in cars and cow sheds. So he's a thief. That's the headline. But anyway, so he's basically just like living this mad existence. All his money's going towards that. At one point he's living in a Finnish mental hospital just to save money. to save money is that really who did he just get I was just saving money I was just crashing there for a bit yeah anyway five weeks before the Calgary Olympics he does it he does the 50 meter jump and he's in so he goes to the Olympics where he comes dead last in both events he enters I mean I watched the video it's like if any friend did that jump I'd be impressed yeah I mean 50 meters at that height and to land it is pretty insane.

41:21And it won everyone's hearts because it's this like have a go hero. It's a great underdog story. I say everyone's. He didn't quite penetrate the icy hearts of the Norwegians and the East Germans who their federations called him an Olympic tourist and a clown. But what was the problem with that? Surely that's just a bit of fun. It brings new eyes to the Olympics. Yeah. I guess maybe you say it like devalues their sport. They're just being po-faced. I guess because they take it really seriously. this is their World Cup and they don't want people just being like, oh, I just fancied it. Yeah. The Norwegians are rapidly emerging as the villain of this episode.

41:56The entire country. Nazi sympathizers. Yeah, Nazi sympathizers. Joyless. Po-faced. Got any other Norwegians? We'll see. Anyway, after that, after the complaints of Norwegians and East Germans, the International Olympic Committee changed the rules. So you have to be in the top 30 % of your sport to qualify. So you can't just... like get in like he did. And Eddie tried to qualify for the next three Olympics and failed. But what, so that was the, what was his name? Was it Eddie the Eel? Eric the Eel. Eric the Eel, the swimmer, who had never swam 50 meters before and then competed at the... Yeah, so how did he get in?

42:32How did he get in? Was this a winter only rule? Maybe. Because Norway is shit in the summer one, so Damon complained. Yeah, I don't know, actually, it's a good question. But yeah, Eddie remains a hero to us, much like the Jamaican bobsleigh team, who also made their debut at the same games, wow it really was the underdog Olympics obviously their story got turned into Cool Runnings which I do think we could do an episode on so although one of them Dudley Stokes he's not impressed by the film he said it's a feature Disney film not much in it actually happened in real life which yeah come on mate I actually looked at the story it's actually closer to the film than he makes out there I'm sure all the individual details don't match they don't have kiss the lucky egg before they do it and all that stuff.

43:18But like a lot of it is accurate and quite mad, the broad strokes. So basically these American businessmen, they saw people doing these like tea trolley races and in Jamaica, I think. And they decided to convince the Jamaican Olympic Association to enter a team just for shits and giggles, I think. And so the Jamaican Olympic Association recruited four soldiers. They only advertised it to soldiers. I don't know why. They recruited a team of four. three of them have got names that sound like Cornish villages. Dudley Stokes, Devon Harris, and Caswell Allen. And there was one called Michael White, who, yeah, not quite as sort of Cornish or East Anglia.

43:59Anyway, they begin training. Dudley Stokes. That's got, it's got a lovely little tea house. Yeah. Dudley Stokes. I've just, I've just scoured an Earl Grey there. Yeah. The Caswell Allen village fate. Beautiful. Check out the Tombola. Yeah. Anyway, so these guys begin training. straight away because they've only got four months until the Olympic Games and none of them have ever walked on ice before being selected let alone race to bobsleigh. So does it there's never ice in Jamaica is there? I actually checked snow has never fallen in Jamaica even in the last ice age. It's that tropical. Okay. Which makes sense.

44:35They've got mountains. Yeah they've got mountains. I guess that's what inspired it was they had sort of an equivalent race of like going fast down a hill. Yeah yeah I guess because apparently sledding, the first signs of sledding are in Egypt on sand dunes. Really? Plausible. Anyway, it becomes very clear that they've never walked on ice when they finally get to Calgary and in their first training session, Caswell Allen slips on the ice and injures himself. I love the idea that it's just first step. He was carrying his Victoria sponge to gift it to the Norwegians. He was just off to enter the largest marrow competition.

45:16when he slipped banged his head on the on the coconut guy on the splat the rat game and he was out of the games it was the first time he'd ever walked on ice and he slipped and injured himself yeah it's not a good start my mate actually tried to do a ski season and on his first day he was walking to the ski rental shop slipped broke his leg no season similar story so where did they train then so you'd never walked on ice I think well this was the training they got to Calgary early I think there was a bit of training just like on dirt or whatever you know like with your first driving lesson you just like sit in the car and like bunny hop it was that but obviously they're a man down now and the Olympics are about to start fortunately Dudley Stokes besides bringing his tombola has also brought Chris his brother who has never seen a bobsled before but and he's just there to support him literally just came to cheer along his brother and Chris just joins, joins the team.

46:17He's the replacement. So we're back to four. Devin Harris said, looking back, he said, I can do an accent. We taught him everything we knew about it. Then we began the event three days later. Almost sounds Cornish. It's Cornish village, Devin Harris. Not Jamaican, Devin Harris. Right. So they've now got their team of four into the games. the four man bobsleigh event is you get the idea of bobsleigh you're in this fucking thing you've got to go down this terrifying shoot anyone who's got the guts to even try it because those things they weigh half a ton yeah I doff my hat to them yeah anyway so you get four runs in the event you've just got to get the best time right and going into the third run so they're halfway through Jamaica are second to last which actually it's not bad it's not bad considering one of them has already never seen a bobsleigh yeah I don't know who's at the back They won't be Norwegian.

47:15Actually, into this third run, they get off to a flying start. Possibly too flying because they were going too fast. And we all know what happens next. Here's a clip. Rather untidy high points on these bends. Much harder to drive these four-man sleds. Yeah, they're zigzagging. Total weight of half a ton. You want to understeen, I guess? All over the place in the Chrysler. Oh, and he's on there. He's over. Oh, dear me. Oh, that's terrible. Do they manage to sort of tug your head in? It looks like their heads are like... It's the fact they have to just slow down for ages. Yeah. And everyone's silent.

47:51You know, in the Hollywood version, they get up and they decide to carry it over their head, which I think is pretty hard in real life. It's so heavy. And then the crowd, like the guy who'd been their enemy, the East German baddie, starts clapping really slowly and then everyone claps. It's a tearjerker, to be honest. I'm welling up thinking about it. it's a fucking good film and it is a fucking amazing story like country with no snow yeah fair play to them and also what I didn't know is that Jamaica actually entered three more Winter Olympics with the bobsled team and in one of them in a crew that included Chris Stokes the brother who'd just come along to watch he ends up being a bobsled after that they came 14th out of 25 that is they got pretty good they got good yeah because there's there's sort of cool runnings too happening in this Winter Olympics isn't there so Trinidad and Tobago have qualified and one of their team members is a guy from Yorkshire who I think his mum was like born in Trinidad or something yeah and um he's ginger which is a nice touch ginger guy and yeah they're they're doing this Winter Olympics so keep an eye out for that yeah we'll be watching maybe they've already raced by the time this comes out uh yeah anyway that's a lovely feel good story it certainly is but But not all competitors at the 1988 Games were worthy of a feel-good Disney blockbuster.

49:14So Ingo Stoyer, he's a legend of German figure skating. He was a European and world champion, winter Olympic medalist. And then he ended up becoming a top coach for their national team as well. And Ingo was revered among his peers until it emerged that he'd spent most of the 80s working as an informant for the Stasi, the East German secret police, and had been spying on his teammates. So he went by the codename Torsten. And apparently back in the 80s, the Stasi were especially interested in one of his teammates, Katerina Witt, who she was this upcoming star. She was really glamorous, very beautiful.

49:58And she was like the face of East German figure skating. and they were terrified about her defecting because it would be a terrible look for the state and they'd actually been monitoring her since she was seven. But this is a bit like Sonia Henney then. Yeah, she was seen as this like upcoming star and they wanted to make sure that she was clean. So what year are we in there? Like, this is decade. 80s. This is 1980s. So figure skaters are still a big deal in Germany even then. And the Stasi, they bugged her apartment, they bugged the ice rink where she trained and they then recruited Ingo to spy on her.

50:34So for years, he was feeding the Stasi information, very personal information about her love life and where she'd be at certain times, stuff like that. Fortunately for Katerina, she actually was relatively clean. They didn't find much on her. But Ingo also ratted on another one of his teammates, Skater, who was about to defect to France. and she was hauled in by the Stasi. And it's unclear what happened after that. Never heard from her again. Couldn't find any trace of her. So you stopped her moving to France? Yeah, I think they caught her just before. Bastard. And yeah, judging by what the Stasi tended to do to people, you can imagine it didn't end too well.

51:21Anyway, nobody knew about his Stasi past until 2006 when it was the eve of the Turin Winter Olympics and he was there as a coach for the German national team and these documents came out that proved that he'd basically been ratting on everyone else for decades. And there was this huge furore, as you can imagine, that the German Olympic Committee tried to kick him out and ban him from attending, but there was a big court battle and he ended up being allowed to go to the Games, but the German Olympic Committee refused to let him wear their colours. he was just a coach anyway he was a coach yeah yeah he's not allowed to wear the tracksuit he did actually wear my Stasi jacket instead wear my East Germany one he did actually come back for some later Olympics I guess they decided it was all water under the bridge imagine you as your coach yeah yeah yeah I guess who's he gonna denounce me to now Russia yeah I know yeah it was mad look into it apparently one in at its peak the Stars he had one in six East Germans working his informants for them one in six one in seven which is mental this is one big game of traitors nationwide game of traitors basically yeah I am and always have been a communist a Marxist-Leninist I love the idea of your teammate doing it also figure skating all these fucking stories where people are at their it's the most ruthless yeah it's I don't know is there is there's something very odd about figure skating isn't there are we talking about the racing one or the dancing one dancing yeah yeah I think they're both quite sinister yeah I think the speed skating is quite fun no I quite like yeah I quite like that but yeah the dancing one has I mean it has Nazi origins is what we've learned yeah yeah and Stasi links and actually the skating scandals don't stop there because obviously we can't do this episode without mentioning Tonya Harding and the attack on her rival Nancy Kerrigan, which was colourfully portrayed by Margot Robbie in the film I, Tonya.

53:34It's probably like the most famous Winter Olympics game. There's been a lot of Winter Olympics films, haven't there? Maybe it's just those two. Blades of Glory. Blades of Glory. This one. There's also a Netflix series at the moment about bigger skating. People are obsessed with it. Wow. I'd see why. Yeah. It's weird. Yeah. From Goebbels all the way to... Reed Hastings, Netflix CEO. They love it. I actually think we'll probably do a full episode on the Tonya Harding scandal at some point, but very briefly. So Tonya and Harding and Nancy Kerrigan were America's top two figure skaters in 1994. And Nancy was the clean cut, wholesome, all-American girl.

54:13Tonya was from the wrong side of the tracks, which basically means she smoked, drank, swore. It says here, played pool, which I didn't really... I always knew that crazy cat. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing, Tanya? The signs were that all along. Yeah, Nancy's a billiards girl. Oh, she also drove pickup trucks and skated to ZZ Top, which is, yeah, the rock and roll. And she did these homemade costumes that were quite like out there. Quite right. Anyway, they were still, despite being chalk and cheese, they were quite friendly until in the buildup to the 1994 Winter Games ahead of a major tournament, Nancy was attacked.

54:59Someone whacked her around the legs with a metal bar. And it turned out in the aftermath that Tonya Harding's ex-husband and her bodyguard had hired a third man called Shane Stant to break Nancy Kerrigan's leg to try and ruin her Olympic hopes and boost Harding's. I mean, to be fair, he ruled Nancy out of this tournament at which Tonya went on to win. But in the wider perspective, he didn't do a great job. So firstly, when he got there to do the hit, he didn't recognize Nancy Kerrigan. So he had to ask a spectator to point her out, which was used against him as evidence. And then when he did hit her, he had this like telescopic baton, you know the vibe, but he missed her knee.

55:42So he ended up only bruising her. He needed to like shatter a meniscus. So actually, all right, she missed that tournament, but Nancy was able to compete in the Olympics after all. It was all for nothing, really. Yeah. Yeah, they've hired a moron. A moron to do this job. If you want a job done properly, do it yourself. Yeah, agreed. And also, you don't want to involve more people. Yeah. I don't know where they found this guy. I mean, at least look at a picture of her before. Don't go around. If you're doing a hit on anyone. I can see how it's quite hard. They're all in their like sparkly costumes.

56:17I don't know. You only watch the gymnastics. I think if you've been hired for that job, there is one thing you have to do, which is just make sure you know what they look like. To be fair, his bungling operation didn't end there because he then tried to make a stealthy escape, but he panicked, reached, he basically went all the way down this corridor, reached a dead end that was a fire escape door. And he was like, fuck, I'm not walking all the way back there. Because like now there's obviously a commotion building around her. Yeah. So he headbutted his way through the glass fire escape door. Great.

56:46So now he's just covered in blood. dazed set off an alarm dazed confused set an alarm he's just stumbling around yeah this guy's an idiot could it be the bloke who's got glass in his beard anyway so he ends up he gets time in prison Tonya and Nancy actually both end up going to the Olympics in Lillehammer is that Norway yeah where there's this huge media frenzy around it can you imagine they still go again it's a bit John Terry and Wayne Bridge but like yeah times 10 uh tanya ends up finishing eighth and there's that famous clip of her crying on the ice it is a cartoonish crying face yeah um that was because her lace broke though right was it yeah she was halfway halfway through her routine and one of her laces broke which meant she she messed up her routine but i think they let her go again the judges isn't her thing that she she was way more ambitious she had this move she kept trying to pull off that was really ambitious that was fucking, it's like an extra axle or something.

57:49Yeah. Something like that. Anyway, it's still disputed whether she tried to orchestrate the attack. Yeah. She had quite a mad life after that as well. I think, I think there's some porn, there's a porn career at one point. Yeah. Oh yes. So I think we'll do it for an episode. Keep them wanting more. And there's been some scandals in the, in the more recent games as well. So much like the summer games, the Winter Olympics are an absolute bonk fest. So in 2010 in Vancouver, they ordered in 100 ,000 condoms. Some athletes came out and said there were six of them said that they had a late night whirlpool orgy in one of their accommodations.

58:31Whirlpool makes it sound cool, but it's like a jacuzzi. I thought it was like, have you ever been to one of those water parks where there's like a thing that like sucks you down? Don't need six people to enjoy that.

58:44So sorry. Six people are naughty in those shoes. There's another story I liked from 1994 when an American skier claimed that two German bobsledders had tried to swap their gold medals with her for a threesome. There's something... What makes this story is there's two German bobsledders. The bobsledders... Like, bobsledding's not a cool sport. Unless you're part of the Jamaican bobsled team. Yeah, there's only one cool bobsled... There's a packing order, lads, and you are not you're not you're not bagging a skier no you won't bagging a skier try your luck with the curlers the Scottish farmers the Scottish curlers will be up for it I think I'm picturing this very like lithe she's got like extremely long legs one of those like head warmer things you squat bobsledders with beards like vikings dragging their knuckles towards her it's gonna take more than a gold medal to get that son yeah what else is the pecky order?

59:44Who's at the top of the... I think skiers are at the top, aren't they? That's how graceful. And they're like really athletic. Figures skaters, probably. Figures skaters. Figures skaters, Nazis and skiers at the top. Yeah. Bobsledders at the bottom of the curlers. Curlers is definitely bottom. Curlers and cross-country skiers as well. Yeah, that's a bit more plodding. It's got no grace. Where are snowboarders in that? Do they stick to their own? I think snowboarders... I think the figure skaters who want a bit of rough, bit of rough, they go for the snowboarders. Yeah, a bit of body hair. That's like the Avril Lavigne skater boy type moves.

1:00:20Yeah, they're punching them up their weight, aren't they? They're snowboarders. Yeah, they shouldn't. They're the guys you look at and you're like, how? Yeah. So when the figure skaters have tired of the jocks, the other figure skaters and the skiers, then they... Yeah, it's Teenage Sturtback. Yeah. The snowboarders turn up with their Harley Davidson. Yeah. Yeah, it's the premise of every teen film from like 98 to 2005. Teenage dirtbag. What are some other events? Obviously skeleton and luge are just like slightly more attractive than the bobsledders because it's not a team sport. Yeah. Ski jumping.

1:00:57I think as well, like the luge and the skeleton people, they're such like adrenaline junkies. I don't think they're, I think they're, you try and take them home and they've popped another pill and they're on the dance floor still. Or they want really crazy sex that you don't want. You've got to like dangle by your ankles from the ceiling. At the same games, there was a bit of a scandal because the Russian figure skaters turned up in Aboriginal themed outfits. Oh yeah. We're looking at them now. They've basically got blackface. Why? They browned up? They've like brown, we've got sort of tan brown face makeup.

1:01:33Yeah, like noughties fake tan. Yeah. Sandra Paye cream. They've got like face paint on in sort of Aboriginal paint patterns and their body, they've got like brown bodysuits again with the Aboriginal sort of painting style all over it and leaves strapped to them. And they performed to music of didgeridoos and rhythmic chanting. Love it. Didn't go down too well. It's actually not though the worst outfit that a Russian ice dancer has ever turned out in. because a few years earlier, a guy called Anton Shulopov did a concentration camp themed dance to the school of Schindler's List. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Anton turned out in a half-half mixed suit.

1:02:27Half of his suit was Jewish prison clothes with the yellow Star of David. The other half was a Nazi guard's uniform. Oh my God, we're looking at a picture of him. He's literally got the star and the number. He's got the star and David, the boy in the striped pajama. Yeah. And then like SS leather Hugo Boss vibe. It's sort of like, you know when you sometimes see people in like half-half shirts? I'm just a fan of the concentration camp too. I support both teams there. Can't they just get along? What was a concentration camp themed dance look like anyway? I don't imagine there's much dancing in concentration camps.

1:03:03is it like you goose step for a bit and then you do like then you're like breaking rocks yeah you're breaking rocks maybe an escape attempt yeah the like finale is you like bid for escape and then you're being dragged back by yourself it's um I don't know what how did he do that wasn't Olympics was it that one it was like some niche no so he actually so there was like a bit of a roar of it but he ended up being put forward by the skate federation for best outfit

1:03:35which I mean you've got to say he's put effort in yeah there's a lot of thought behind it there's obviously an element of it that's heinous but you do have to admire Russians just like savage humour yeah like they kind of don't mean it in a bad way do you know what I mean kind of it's yeah they're fucking wild hasn't yeah that's what we've lost by Russia not competing are Russia competing no no they're banned that's absolutely wild will we get outfits like that this time well there's the minion guy the minion figure skater but interesting that we've come full circle here because we started with skating and Nazis and we finished with skating Nazis and in a way that's what the whole thing's about it kind of comes back to our whole point from the start that it is I mean we've said before rich people love Nazis right yeah they like dressing as them they love dressing up as Nazis and this the Winter Olympics is and they like skiing posh gay people yeah they like skiing and they like dressing as us.

1:04:35They're like anti-Semitism. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, thanks a lot for watching and listening. If you enjoyed that, we will be covering all the wildest characters and stories from this year's games on Extra Shot, which you can listen to every Thursday if you're a Patreon member. Just go to patreon.com forward slash Upshot Towers and yeah, we'll pull out all the Nazi dances, all the secret spies, all the hot tub whirlpool orgies. There'll be a lot of it, I'm sure. And the rest. Yeah. Thanks a lot. We'll see you next time. Cheers. Thanks.

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Links from the pod:
Australian speed skater who was coming last before the final corner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUi4-H6hfw8

The actual Jamaican bobsled team:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1aWFW8bOpo
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