Apple’s Wearable AI Pin Sounds Cringe - WAN Show January 23, 2026

47:19The flashlight would go like this. Oh, no, the dog was after the flashlight. The point is... Wow, the dog was first, 1995. It didn't get better. They gave us Cortana. We hated Cortana until they gave us Copilot. And now I'm sitting there going, how much would I love to just have Cortana back? Okay, but seriously, do you think back positively and nostalgically for Cortana? I think compared to Copilot, yes. I think it's all relative. It was easier to get out of the way. I think Microsoft just needs to completely new coke this, throw away the co-pilot branding entirely, and make their big AI push around Clippy.

47:59I would unironically want to try Clippy. I would too. And this is why when I read this, I was like, no way. AI pin called Clippy. You Clippy it to your shirt. If it was just a big paperclip, that would actually go so hard. That would be amazing. That's genuinely an incredible product idea. Oh, crap. All right, take down the stream. That's wild. We should make an AI pin. It's not like it's hard. Actually, though. It's all just calling out. Arduino hot glue. Look, if we want to... Luke, if we want a grift, we all know that the answer is an ICO. Minus 10. Oh. The answer is going to be a coin. both Linustown and coin and let me tell you something we've had some conversations lately we've had some conversations don't be surprised if in the next you know two months and a bit we have a coin don't let it surprise you that's all I'll say what is it for that's all I'll say What is it for, Luke?

49:10It's a coin. What do you mean, what is it for? So it's for rugs? It's a coin. No, no. Oh, God, no. Heavens, no. No. It's the unrugged coin? It's a coin. That's all I can say, and we'll have an offering. Okay. That will be initial.

49:33Stay tuned. The first ever coin offering initial. Stay tuned. Look, you can tell he's not sold. You can tell he's not sold. But he hasn't seen all the details yet. He doesn't know the details. Tell me now. Are you sold?

49:53Yeah, kind of. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Oh, that's actually awesome.

50:05See? this is what I'm talking about it was that it was that easy to get him on board you guys will get on board I will buy one Linus coin you'll I mean if you're lucky I mean I should have bought one bitcoin 20 years ago or whatever not quite I will buy one Linus coin yeah well I'm not gonna lose this hard drive oh damn all right oh damn Dan, what are we doing again? I think we're doing the whole topic. That was the whole topic, yeah. Okay, let's do the merch messages. Go to CW announcements and things. Oh, okay. So where's that? At the very top. Okay. We have no main topics today. When you hide things from me at the very top, I can't find them, Dan.

50:50They're supposed to be in the middle. I didn't write the topics. We've talked about this. Why are you so mean? You've got to put it on a lower shelf. this week's launch that's what luke gets i like it more maybe which is so not good okay do you want to fire up the uh the store and then we'll all screen share sure this week's launch takes the old cleanup wizard from your computer and gives it a full-on fantasy makeover the collection includes how cool is this hoodie you guys the cleanup wizard t-shirt in solid black plus a limited run tie-dye version oh i have that hold on one sec uh yes we are still trying to get rid of the last of the ltx tie-dye shirts that's sick though yeah i hadn't seen that one yeah brother limited edition only the ltx 23 tie-dye shirts that we have remaining we printed cleanup wizard on the rest of them and so we've got it in black we've got it in the tie-dye and then we've also got it in our uh zip up hoodie printed on the back um you can shop the collection oh here we've got luke laptop you can shop the collection at lmg.gg slash cleanup wizard some of these photos the the ones where they actually like try to be a real wizard like oh my god jordan goes super hard with props.

52:26It's so good, man. He's the one who made the trophies for The Last Crapyard Wars.

52:34That's so good. Oh, there's another one. That's amazing. Sorry, I really like these. Oh, man. That's great. Now I need to hide my camera so I can buy a tie-dye one before they run. Really cool design. I believe this one was either entirely or predominantly a Lisa innovation who technically works for the fashion team, not the design team, but she obviously has a design background. And this basically, I think I asked for like a couple small tweaks, but pretty much she showed it to me and I was like, amazing, print it. I love it. Because it's so cool. Old, old Microsoft mascots that were awesome.

53:20Everyone loved the wizard. yeah everyone loved the wizard yeah even when it was current and this is like cool gritty reimagined wizard and like i love that it looks like a band shirt or something i thought okay dan was walking in a in front of me and he was wearing the hoodie i'm pretty sure and i saw it on the back and was like huh like you know never heard of that that's a cool concert hoodie sure When did Dan start dressing well?

53:53It just, and then I think he told me, he was like, oh yeah, it's like, you know, a reference to that. I was like, oh, obviously. Because yeah, I thought it was a band shirt. Crazy. Now I need to continue trying to buy one. Thank you. Before we move on, a quick reminder about the LTT TrueSpec Cables Drop. They're going to be available in USB A to C and USB C to C with plenty of speed and length options for a cleaner setup. You can check out our signup page at lmg.gg slash cable signup to get more information and features and to get notified as soon as they go live. I would not probably screw around if you want to get exactly the length that you want because we ordered somewhat conservatively on the first round and I can't guarantee that all sizes will stay in stock unless we nailed it.

54:45And we got the mix exactly right. And we... Are you leaving a merch message?

54:54What, the call is coming from inside the house? If I'm a customer, I get to leave a merch message. I mean, you're entitled. Yeah, you're entitled to leave a merch. I mean, sorry, don't let me stop you. Go ahead and leave a merch message. Well, now you know I'm sending it, so now I need to send something different.

55:13I mean, you're not subtle. everyone can tell when you're on your phone on the land show i'm not trying to i'm not trying to creep you or anything it's that big you think i don't know what our own store looks like i didn't know you could actually see my screen though linus what if somebody else wanted to send a merch what do they do right okay all they would have to do is head over to lttstore.com where they could pick up some great merchandise like last week's crash out shirt which i actually love how how cute how cute is the little sad face here or you could pick up the cleanup wizard collection um just drop something in your cart how about this one let's go with this add to cart and then in your cart you will see this check box right here i would like my order to appear as a merch message on the ltt stream you can do it anonymously you can change the color however you like.

56:09See, that one was purple, the one that just faded away in the top up there. And then you can type a merch message. That merch message will go to producer Dan, who will throw it down there if it's just like a shout out or something, or reply to it himself if he knows the answer, or it's one we've seen a hundred times. Or he might curate it. That is to say, he will put it in a queue for me and Luke to address later on the show. We like merch messages because they're a way for you to throw money at your screen like you would with any other streamer, except instead of just throwing money at your screen and getting, I don't know what, Senpai noticing in return, you also get high-quality products.

56:48By the way, I've been using the M-Word, and we had a meeting this week. The M-Word? Yeah, the M-Word. We had a, we're not going to call it merch meeting anymore. We had a product meeting this week. we are officially banning the word merch because it's not merch what are these things called then checkout chats we talked about this months ago yeah we're gonna call it something else let's call them checkout chats so it has the same abbreviation as sea cleaner i like it okay we could call them that's good um okay what would be mm help us out here guys yeah stop it

57:30um uh money makers says mcbane well conrad does get final say and he says rammy dans so we're going with that no we're not calling it that um mercantile messages thank you for that market manipulators money messages um stream shouts is kind of cute says when bingo chronified mandatory meetings money makers i think we could go with checkout chats send send your cocks yeah uh elemental exposure thank you for that perfect okay check let's go with checkout chats so nice yeah well it might take uh it might take a week or two but let's get the let's get the rebrand in here and let's do uh let's call them checkout chats from now on because we got to stop calling this stuff merch it's not merch it's uh we do we do product development like uh they were i think this might have actually been lisa as well um but she was uh telling an anecdote and someone was getting like a tour through there and they were like so it's like all this stuff you guys do would you consider this more like a like a fashion department and she's like uh-huh like wow you guys do like so much testing on like the you know like the materials and the finishes and everything like you get every it's not yeah so we've just we've got to just stop calling it that yeah we got to respect ourselves enough to call it what it is merch really does just mean merchandise though i know but like but it has that connotation of just being cheaply reproduced aliexpress stuff with a silk silk screen logo on it you know all language is cyclical though people just get like tired of a word so they decide it's bad and then you just make a new one that does the same thing

59:37loot messages as long as the words don't start with r i won't get confused

59:47calm down i don't know if his mic was on but i could hear him losing it over there just giggling through gritted teeth uh do you want some merch messages to read sorry Check out chat. Damn it. Um, don't meet. Show me your cock. Shall I show you some of these cocks? I got sent Talking of this could not go poorly talking of cocks. Can we get a sock update? Oh, oh yes I'm not wearing them today. I'm wearing old prototypes today. I am so happy Oh, man. No, are you excited to do timestamps?

1:00:31Every week.

1:00:36Curated cocks.

1:00:42I mean, at least... Dan's best cocks of 2026.

1:00:53Poor Gnocchi.

1:00:58Oh, man. sorry you keep going um sorry yeah sock update so i'm super happy i'm with how the the latest samples are going they're really durable they're really breathable they're not the softest socks in the world they're they're like a merino wool blend we found that the percentage of merino wool was not what the manufacturer told us that it was, which is why we do all this materials testing and stuff that makes us, yes, a company with a fashion team, not just a merch outfit. And so that was super cool. Tatiana, full credit for that. And what we decided was that we're going to stick with the composition that it is because it's great.

1:01:50It's very wearable, but that just is going to affect the way that we advertise it. I had a meeting with Dave, Adam, the head of customer care, Tatiana, so the materials specialist, and Bridget, who's head of the fashion department, not merch department, fashion department, or head of fashion design. I can't remember her exact title, but basically the honcho. That's the new title. Yeah. The honcho. The hon. You know, Bridget and I are pretty chill. I think if I was like, yeah, we're printing you business cards that say honcho on them, I think she might actually be down. I'm not 100 % sure on that, though.

1:02:33She's the kind of person who you definitely get approval before you do something. But if you do the wrong thing, she'll tell you in the nicest possible way that you have royally fucked it up.

1:02:49So I'll let her decide what her job title is. Riley's badge for CES said the Han. I think it was honorable. That was amazing. I know. Sherrod's was doctor. Because of course it was. Anyway, the point is, I had a long meeting, not long, short meeting with those folks. And I think the socks are going to be the third, fourth, fourth entry in the Trust Me Bro limited lifetime guarantee family. To be clear, everything on the store, we stand behind it extremely strongly. But this is one where we're looking at it going, this is going to be a very premium sock. I think people are going to have, for the price that it is, very high expectations for how long they should last.

1:03:38Everything is within reason. Just like I've discussed before with how a limited lifetime warranty works, whether it's the backpack or the screwdriver or the socks or the cables or whatever else, There's going to be language in the warranty that limits it. That's what a limited lifetime warranty is. So, you know, it's not going to cover things like flagrant abuse of the product. And it'll have wording in there that basically gives us the right to weasel out of whatever it is we don't want to do, which is exactly sort of my point on the whole warranty thing in the first place. But what we're going to be doing through calling it that is sending a very strong signal that this is a product that we expect to last for an extremely long time if it does not get abused and that you will be extremely happy with the value that you'll get out of it and that we are going to stand behind very strongly.

1:04:28I'm extremely excited for this product. Oh, that's pretty good. Sorry. What do you look at? Check out messages, comms. I like it being comms. Comms is pretty good. I don't know if we can go long term with cocks. I mean speak for yourself only if you use the it's just a fling for me

1:04:57comms is probably better you could just say checko jets you could have the long one rather than the short one but there's no way you didn't do that on purpose pretty bit of a stretch honestly I like it. Check out JADs. Let's have another one here. For today, they're check out JADs. Oh, they sure are.

1:05:23Let's just do the one at the top. How about that? Hey, wonderful tech bros. I know in the past it's been said that RAM slots on GPUs wasn't going to happen. But with the RAM-pocalypse here now, does that change your answer? Sell cheap GPUs with bring your own RAM. No, it doesn't change the answer, unfortunately, because the reasons that they are doing things the way they're doing them are economical or sorry, are technical reasons, not economical reasons. In order to get that memory running at the kind of speeds that they need it running at, the traces need to be extremely short. and every time you add trace length or you add an interface so so a pin and a spring or anything like that you are you are contributing to signal loss that will ultimately result in not being able to run at as high of a speed that's why the faster the gpu the more important it is that we bring the memory closer and closer to it so you look at something like hbm where they're bringing the memory right onto the package versus a typical gpu where your memory um dies are laid out around the gpu and you notice they're never far away like they would literally rather have it double-sided on the pcb especially you look at like um some some higher capacity cards where they'll have memory chips laid out around the gpu and you flip it over and there's memory chips all over the back excuse me um it's the same reason that uh that amd requires strix halo to have the memory soldered to the board so that's their ryzen ai uh ai max 300 series but whatever the actual brand ryzen ai max and ai max plus if i recall correctly is the the branding for it but framework took some flack for making the framework desktop with Strix Halo and having soldered memory on the board.

1:07:33But the cold hard truth is the reason that that memory is soldered is because to feed that high performance integrated GPU, it has to be. You could put socketed DIMMs in it, but you'd be giving up so much performance that you're basically defeating the purpose of the product in the first place. Socketed GPUs were a thing. But it just got to the point where it just wasn't worth it. It didn't make any sense. And the vast majority of the time, it was pretty clear pretty much how much memory was needed for that GPU performance in the kinds of applications that it would be running. There are certainly exceptions.

1:08:17We're just having way more could allow you to run a way larger AI model, for instance, now today. but from a gaming standpoint

1:08:28nvidia and amd intel they have a pretty good idea how much memory that gpu could really benefit from before you're getting into games that need way more memory but would also just need way more gpu horsepower i also think they have a pretty good idea of how they can push people into higher price bands through manipulating that absolutely but that's a separate conversation not a wrong conversation totally valid point but is not the reason why we don't have socketed gpus at this time

1:09:06was that two merch messages sure was okay flew by time flies and you're having fun sure did Do you want to pick one? Yes. I do. I do want to pick one. Sony gives up 51 % of its Bravia TV business to China's TCL in a new strategic partnership. Very, very odd. This is done with the aim of leveraging Sony's high-quality picture and audio technology, which includes some class-leading image processing. Sorry, I didn't wince to that statement. I wince because it's interesting that it's going in that direction then. which includes some class-leading image processing and TCLs, and then this is crossed out.

1:09:49Advanced display technology, global scale advantages. Oh, okay, I see. Industrial footprint, end-to-end cost efficiency, and vertical supply chain strength, also known as cheap manufacturing. In a joint press release, Sony said the joint venture will operate globally, handling full process from product development to design to manufacturing, sales, logistics, customer service, everything. thing sony has partnered with numerous other companies to manufacture their tvs in the past maybe not to this degree i'm not necessarily sure on that one yeah yeah yeah it is to this degree yeah okay they gave up 51 of their business no no no no but like they they they have had other factories oem manufacture their tvs that's not yeah what i was talking about was giving up 51 of their business uh because doing that repeatedly is confusing um sony has partnered they partnered with TCL's own China Star Opto-Electronics technology, CSOT.

1:10:48At least for now, the Bravia name will continue to exist, but in this new arrangement, TCL will take full control of the manufacturing process of Sony's TVs and likely their soundbar speakers, AVRs, and turntables. The aim is to have definitive binding agreements signed by the end of March 2026 and for the new company to commence its operations in April of 2027. Dang. Does this new surprise you? Personally, yes. Yeah, big time. Definitely. This was a major surprise to me because Sony's TV business has been in dire straits at times. But not right now, right? But it didn't seem like it was right now.

1:11:33Now, admittedly, every time I've gone out shopping for a TV in the last little while, whether it was you asking me for a recommendation or whether it was my grandparents needing a new TV and me just going and buying one, Sony hasn't been in my consideration at all. So Sony has been in kind of a weird place for me where they have a lot of mind share with me. I see it as a high quality product. but I'm not willing to open up my wallet to pay the premium for it. But Sony's been in that position for the better part of my adult life. So I guess what I'm just trying to understand is what changed? Is it just even further, tighter pressure to consolidate?

1:12:26I think that the TV game for a long time has been raced to the bottom with prices. Well, yeah. And they just probably can't compete that way anymore. I mean, you look at what we saw in that Hisense factory tour, where they were talking about how important it was that they had this new automated glue dispensing machine for adhering the thing to the thing that saved some percentage of glue. And I'm like, well, is it expensive glue? They're like, no. And I'm like, well, then why does it matter if you save like a few milliliters of glue? And they're like, well, because we make a lot of TVs. And I'm like, oh, yeah, that makes sense.

1:12:59Like they're, they are squeezing every penny that they can save out of these things in order to keep TVs getting bigger and prices staying similar or in many cases going down. Here's a question. Have you found that, I'm not much of a TV guy, have you found that TV failure rates have been going up? I haven't experienced it personally. I've heard people anecdotally talk about it. Yeah, okay. But like, I don't... I can't remember the last time I heard anyone say that their TV died of like natural causes. Like actually. So that doesn't seem to be happening. Okay. Because I have a... My fridge at home is having a problem.

1:13:46And just because everything is in my place apparently right now. We had an appliance guy come in and he was basically just like, okay, yeah, I mean, I can fix this. But realistically, this thing's old enough. You should just buy a new one. To that, I was like, huh? my parents have had two fridges that i can remember my entire life this fridge does not seem that old what are we talking about um and i did a bunch of research also known as i looked up threads on reddit um and this is like a thing now oh yeah people are like oh yeah fridges last like five ten years now well ten years on the high end five on the like average and i was like what wild it's big box of cold now there are there are tv longevity issues so for instance uh ratings did that really great investigation into edge lit tvs finding that especially if they were on for very extended periods of time at high backlight power uh what was happening was it was like melting and discoloring the diffusion layer behind the lcd screen and that was like a widespread issue with budget TVs, for instance.

1:14:50But what I was going to point out was that you and a lot of people in your social circle are probably more middle class. Yeah. And therefore have not the cheapest TV. That makes sense. And so it seems to me that you still can buy a quality product that lasts for a while. A lot of my friends that aren't necessarily a lot of my friends the two that I've been in their living room and seen what they have have not opted to go buy a cheap tv from the store they've opted to get used stuff um so they have higher quality things that might be slightly older um but like and they let someone else pay the initial yeah depreciation cost which on a tv because they're so cheap it seems to be like you got that crazy tv was a hundred bucks or something crazy for Scraphead Wars?

1:15:46No, it was more than that. I don't remember what it was. But the deal was crazy, whatever it was. I think it was four, I want to say 400 Canadian dollars and it came with a free soundbar, or$600 and it came with a free soundbar. Whatever it was for the quality of TV that you got, it was like fantastic. Yeah, it was fine. Totally acceptable. Our Scraphead Wars TV was $550 with a$100 free soundbar. But it was worth way more than that. Thanks, Bankrats. So like, the used market for TV seems pretty good. I think you'd really... We bought that one new though as a one oh wow which puts pressure on the used market as well when new tv is just goodness yeah yeah we bought we bought it from like open box warehouse but it wasn't open box i know right crazy um i was gonna say was if you're gonna buy a tv use check for burn-in but um eddie coldrick says tcl is probably one of the very cheapest tv brands available in the uk it's weird to see them taking on what i would consider as a luxury tv brand especially sony bravia pro line and this is one of those things that i think i think i've been guilty of many times in the past as well this perception that chinese brands or chinese manufacturing or or low-end brands can't make something better a lot of the time it's that they choose yeah to make like a market a budget crappy one yeah um sometimes it's because they can't make something better but a company like tcl like i was i was blown away when i first got that 115 inch tv like two years ago or whenever it was and i was like this is not only the biggest tv i've ever seen this is one of the best tvs i've ever seen i was not expecting that and it has still held its spot in my theater room to this day in spite of heating up competition in the ultra large tv segment which is kind of wild right yeah um and and like going back even further remember how we used to go to ces in the early days and hisense always had the booth right next to intel right at the entrance of the central hall yep and i'd be like who the f*** are these guys like i know who intel is every year for a while But who the f*** is Hisense?

1:18:02Why does the perspective back then relax? Yeah. Like junk TV company have this like massive booth. I didn't even know who they were at all the first time I saw them. Because my first CES was like 17 years ago now or something like that. I literally didn't know who they were. I had to look it up. And now they're like. And it was like, oh, it's like a weird Chinese TV brand that literally doesn't exist in North America at all. What are they even doing here? And now they're battling it out with TCL. another brand that I wouldn't have heard of at all at the time for number one number two if I recall correctly is Samsung is Samsung still up there top TV brands brands US is it Hisense and TCL measuring it by sales yeah would be volume of sales or or like total dollars um hold on no I don't want best yeah top selling TV brands from Accio Accio statistics

1:19:04so average star rating last month sales volume Hisense TCL Sony that's a cheap Sony so I guess that makes sense Samsung LG Vizio Samsung Samsung Samsung I don't know how reliable this is last month sales volume no way what is this okay you know what i don't know i don't know if i'm going to be able to find this but the point is they absolutely have a very strong presence in the u.s market we can say that with certainty and um i guess where i yeah where i was going with this is that there's nothing about tcl's budget low-end tvs and them not being very good that means that TCL doesn't have the manufacturing expertise and facilities to make a high-end TV.

1:19:57Yeah, for sure. And that's how a lot of these brands ultimately make their way to having a retail presence, is they're OEMing for much more recognized, bigger brands, and then they eventually kind of go, sorry, what do I need these guys for? and they start making their own stuff and their own stuff kind of sucks, not because they don't know how to build a better one in many cases, sometimes that because they don't have the color science down or they don't have the good processing chips or whatever the case may be. And then other times it's because they just recognize that they're going to have to lucky gold star it and start at the bottom of the quality and perception pile and work their way up until their manufacturing volumes get higher and their expertise raises and then all of a sudden they're LG.

1:20:45And they're like a globally dominant electronics brand.

1:20:54As for how I feel about buying a Sony TV at this point, their things are a little bit more confusing. Sony still owns 49 % from my understanding. so sony is still going to be literally like very invested in bravia tvs being really good um but would i pay extra would i pay the bravia premium for a tcl tv with sony's special sauce knowing that i already wasn't willing to do it and also that nothing's really changed because tcl may very well have been manufacturing them before anyway. Like the whole thing is... It's funky. It's changing, but is it changing? Most people aren't going to know that ever happened.

1:21:43Oh, yeah. Yeah, 100%.

1:21:49I think this might be somewhat Sony throwing in the manufacturing towel. I mean, this gets talked about a lot where people would be like, oh, Apple, Apple, or Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola is not a pop company. They're a logistics company, whatever. TCL, I think if you're making that argument about other companies, I think you can make the argument about them being logistics and manufacturing and efficiency and stuff like that, not necessarily a TV company. So if at a certain scale, it's very true though. Totally. No, I'm not, I'm not even countering that. I'm just saying that you might also, I don't know enough about TCL, but you might also be able to apply that same logic to them.

1:22:24And if so, Sony might just be like, look, we just want to step back and be like a really premium technology and r &d group that can contribute that to really good tvs that these other people can pump out um and if they're getting you know if they own 49 of of the joint venture a big part of the pie especially if they don't have to mess with the manufacturing side of things logistics and everything they can leave that alone like it it might be fine i don't know if i want to be too doomer about this um as someone who has never purchased a sony tv it doesn't necessarily matter that much to me yeah sony was always like an aspirational brand for me even going back to like like portable cd players and stuff it was like they're usually quite premium actually hold on no i did have a i did have a discman i remember i had a discman and panasonic was actually the more premium brand around the time that i finally got one i didn't get an early discman like i didn't get one when they were square i got one when sony had kind of started to have their their ability to compete in the premium space eroded when they had the rounded ones the conversation we had on wan about rechargeable batteries reminded me that i probably needed a few more um so i i treated myself to one of those like the eneloop kits nice it comes with the the charger and the adapters and stuff it showed up i'm pretty happy about it i wonder which one i had This looks a little bit too squared off to be mine, but this display looks extremely familiar.

1:24:02This branding came way later. I don't think it's there anymore, but I remember when there was a Sony store in the Willowbrook Mall. I used to go through there all the time. I never owned anything from Sony, but I always thought it was cool. This was absolutely directly competing with Panasonic's look at the time. these uh these early uh square ones were pretty pretty wild oh i think this is the one i think this is the one i had scroll down like one row digital mega base one row wait what yeah what do you have to like orange and black one at the top of your screen oh yeah this guy i don't know if i've seen that before but that looks awesome is that relatively new like is that like going for like a retro vibe.

1:24:43Can this not be here? I'm trying to... Oh my God, it moved. Stop. 2023. What? Wait, no, vintage, vintage. Okay. Yeah, okay. It looks awesome. Late 1980s. That's pretty wild. That's pretty cool. That's quite a vibe going on there. The kids whose parents loved them more had Panasonics, though, with their better anti-skip. It's true. It's true. Did you have a Panasonic? No. My parents loved me quite a bit. Then your parents didn't love you that much. I don't know about that. That sounds fishy to me. I remember there was this one kid in my class who had like, I don't remember exactly which one he had.

1:25:30But it was one kind of like the Sedan's parents loved him. Well, I'm pretty sure they didn't buy it. It was probably a repair. Nice. We never bought anything electronic ever. It's like, oh, this is too much to repair. i remember this kid in my grade seven class showing off his panasonic shockwave and basically his demo was that he would like give you his headphones and then he'd be like okay now start shaking it and you'd like you'd shake it for as long as you could before you like got tired and it would keep playing the whole time because i think it had 45 seconds of read ahead so like you would you would have to like you'd have to shake it for almost a minute to get it to finally skip which was probably terrible for it like probably awful for it but a fun demo but it worked yeah it was a cool demo he didn't buy it yeah what does he care

1:26:26yeah i don't know how to feel about this it might be fine it might not be fine cool good chat the 51 of its bravia tv business is also interesting because as far as my understanding goes if you're a foreign company and you want to work in China, you just have to do that. And they said the new company will start operating. Yeah, hold on a second. Definitive binding agreements will be signed by March of 2026 for the new company to commence. So they didn't just sell part of their company, they made a new company. And in China, if you're going to make a new company, a Chinese company has to have a majority.

1:27:03They have to have at least 51%. So this is, I don't even think this was like a negotiation. They wanted to start a new company in China making TVs, and they just had to partner with somebody, and they partnered with TCL. Well, I wish them luck with that. This is part of, do I want to talk about this? Because I don't know enough of the facts. You might know some of it. This is part of Carney's plan, as far as my understanding goes. It is 51 % for the Canadian side. He's trying to do effectively the same thing they're doing, when an outside foreign company wants to come to Canada and do business.

1:27:40Especially like natural resource extraction. Yeah. It's been a real problem for Canada for a long time that we have foreign entities coming in, setting up shop, doing a bunch of mineral and natural resource extraction and then funneling the profits outside of Canada where there's no contribution to Canadian taxes. Historically been extremely permitted by Canadian leadership to the point where there's like almost certainly backroom deals happening. But yeah, this is this is discussion about car companies coming in from from China to Canada, potentially setting up manufacturing and whatnot. And a Canadian company would need to have majority ownership.

1:28:24It's it's and that's that's not a, you know, amazing new playbook idea. That's just a China did that. It worked really well for them. Let's do the same thing. So, yeah. I mean, I see nothing wrong with learning from our geopolitical rivals. Hardly rivals. Yeah. Yeah. From the big dogs. I mean, listen, every Pokemon game you meet your rival, I know I'm going to crush him. Still a rival. Fair enough.

1:28:57All right. Hey, what do you want to talk about next? how about tesla's robo taxi service actually goes full robo for the first time in austin since launching in the summer of this year tesla's robo taxis have come with a safety monitor in the car who can hit a kill switch in the event of an emergency but now they've started offering unsupervised trips in austin texas nice they apparently plan to phase out the safety monitors and move to a fully autonomous fleet over time i mean yes that that has been the plan for that's been coming in two years for quite some time now. It's coming in two years.

1:29:32Is it? Yep. There have been approximately eight crashes in the five months since the service launched, despite the safety monitors, which depending on how you interpret that number is either really great or really not as great. I remember reading about some college student who created an app that pings their service constantly from a bunch of different locations to find out how many robo taxis they actually have deployed and it turns out it's not very many um which was pretty interesting ah good job anyway the cyber taxi program still has a wait list for new riders but the company is pushing to open in more cities soon um there's a full play i'm asking for a source but there's a full plane chatter that said this is not true and supervisory safety monitors are in following cars that's hilarious i don't have like a source for this or anything yet though at what point do you think it would be easier for tesla to just do the things they say they're going to do instead of pretend to do the things they say they're going to do impossible i'm just wondering impossible i'm just wondering it'd be too uncharacteristic like what like would it be easier for them to actually make a use that's got major i can change him energy

1:30:59i mean for a trillionaire it's worth at least trying luke yeah this is a futurism.com article it says there's reportedly a car secretly following every tesla so this is not like i don't know if this is real or not um and it says when elon musk said there would no longer be a safety monitor in the car he didn't mention the other car i don't know this doesn't necessarily mean anything maybe it's true maybe it's not i mean the whole thing basically doesn't necessarily mean anything it's been pretty clear that this rollout has been a desperate attempt to prove that they're actually definitely for real definitely actually gonna do self-driving this time meanwhile of which are we transitioning to the same topic yeah go for it tesla autopilot comes to an end in north america tesla has quietly removed autopilot from all vehicle purchases based on what elon has shared in the u.s and canada replacing it with traffic aware cruise control or tac t-a-c-c as the default driver assist feature the change follows tesla's recent announcement that full self-driving supervised is moving to a subscription first model existing owners won't lose autopilot but new buyers now have to pay for fsd or full self-driving if they want features like lane steering oh boy uh tesla is offering a longer 90-day fsd trial but after that it's it's 99 bucks a month or a one-time purchase is available until February 14th of 11 ,000 Canadian dollars or 8 ,000 US dollars.

1:32:37Autopilot has been a core part of Tesla's value proposition and removing it means even basic lane keeping is now paywalled. Really? Something many cheaper cars include by default. Yoics! Is there going to be comma AI kits for Tesla's? That's a thing. Oh really? That's a thing, yes. Really? This is pretty wild to me because a huge part of the the tesla package from my understanding has been the the advanced software and it seems like this this push to making it all a subscription is either oh my god it is it either means that they're actually ready this time and it's actually working and they're finally like yee we can actually charge money for this because it's not just alpha level software running on beta level hardware um i shouldn't say beta level hardware but it's not working as advertised they've been they've been making claims about full self-driving for many many years with respect to the capabilities and the timeline that have simply not turned out to be true that we can all agree on um so either secretly they're like really ready this time and they're like yeah we can charge for it now or this is a desperate attempt to fomo people into buying a bunch of full self-driving right now so that they can juice the numbers for their next investor call and talk about how much people love full self-driving and how much they just bought of it i i can't i can't tell if if If every move in this chess game is just a way of staving off the ultimate crash of this stock for another quarter, or if it's something else.

1:34:32Can't tell.

1:34:38Yeah, it's, I don't know. It's interesting because they, I mean, they've got something. Like I, I sat in a car with somebody who was driving a Tesla and driving is like in enormous air quotes because their, their legs were crossed in their seat and they were like clearly on their phone and, uh, showing me the, the, how they know the limits of when autopilot will get them to like pay attention again and how they like play within the limit. so they just never have to do anything. And it drove them all the way from where we were to the next location with no intervention whatsoever. Yes. Yeah.

1:35:25I don't want it to come back to that person. But there was other stuff going on as well. It was honestly quite impressive. But then that's still not technically the advertised full self-driving. but the thing that gets me is the removing of of even things like lane keeping like that's crazy because clearly they have something like that was that was quite an impressive experience to be honest um but to just rip it away it's like yikes man to be clear everyone who has autopilot which is advanced cruise control with lane keep not without it um everyone who has it in their existing vehicle already will still have it okay yeah yeah okay okay so they're not taking it away from anyone who does have it they're just not providing it as an included option on vehicles on new going forward so you'll have to pay a subscription to unlock it okay just like you've had to pay to unlock the heated rear seats uh in the past for instance yeah i mean that still kind of sucks then but that's not as bad as i thought i i misinterpreted this i thought they were taking it away and I was like what like if that was my experience which you know maybe you shouldn't do that but if that was my experience I'd be kind of pissed going back to like a fully manual car.

1:36:42No definitely not. Okay cool cool cool. Uh more Elon news? Ugh. Yeah let's do that instead. That sounds like a better idea.

1:36:55Floatplane announcement. This week on Floatplane do you want to bring it up? Sure. is all about what Linus does when he's not in Linus YouTuber mode. Oh, okay. Interesting. The Tonight Show behind-the-scenes vlog is finally out, showcasing what happened during the event, including the parts where the laptop did, in fact, work, and a quick meeting with Jimmy Fallon himself. Yeah, Luke got to meet him, too, this time, which is cool. Oh, here he is. He didn't chat with us for as long this time as he did the first time. it was pretty short but he's a busy man i'm trying to find the laptop opening uh you'll find it we didn't end up capturing how frustrated i was right after the segment uh but you did get to see how depressed the room felt so that's something oh yeah he must have been filming in there i talked to sammy about it and he was like yeah i was i i've never actually seen you like really upset before and i was like scared to film you and i was like sammy you still have it you well i didn't say that um i was like sammy even if i say don't the right thing to do is to film me yeah because later use it yeah we can always i can always tell you later when i'm like not upset anymore let's not do that let's not upload it but we can never recapture a moment and the example i gave him was when wanik server suffered that enormous data loss incident and i was like actually like i i think i snapped at i think it was taryn van heemert like put away the camera like like was like not okay in that moment and he basically was like i disagree this is very important in that way that he sometimes did um which i didn't have time to argue with him about and ultimately i came to him afterward and i was like you were right you were right to capture this moment because this was really great very real content that i wasn't in the mood for making at the time but i'm very grateful that we have captured now that i can look back on it after the fact um and so i basically i told sammy that story about how like even if i tell you no um the better thing to do is capture it we can always not use it we can always even delete it if anything i would take it a sign to maybe be less intrusive with the filming but keep filming yeah yeah definitely yeah um anyway what else was i gonna say we also had sammy following follow me around during my day at ces to see what it looks like when i don't have 12 shoots at the show floor this ranged from troubleshooting an inconsequential laptop all the way to some behind the scenes of us at the robot fight event.

1:39:50Also, funny moment at 1919 to 1929. Okay. Okay. 1919. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Uh, okay. Audio. Dan, do we have audio? Uh,

1:40:09no.

1:40:13I'm not going to yuck your yum, though. dude i'm gonna show my dad what a father figure looks like

1:40:22that's a fire quote

1:40:27oh my god wow that's a huge yikes um if you if you prefer riley though riley and bjorn sat down to talk about the behind the scenes and some insight on how to make their fun, creative sponsor spots. I saw that. I'm excited to, I haven't watched it, but I saw the thumbnail. I'm excited to watch that. Stay tuned because next week we have a float plane exclusive product, not clothing, that is very cool. That's launching. LMG.GG slash FPWAN. Go check it out. Do you know about this? I, my brain just went to like cables. Nope. Okay. Oh, I love that you don't know about this. This is going to be so much fun.

1:41:12It's going to be a great surprise. I can't speculate, though. I'm not going to tell you nothing right now. Absolutely nothing. Stone cold poker face. How do I...

1:41:25Okay. I can't. No, I can't. Yeah, I'm going to try again. I'm going to try again. Okay. You can't put it on me, Dan. You can't put the camera on me. I saw you do that. Yeah, you absolutely can't. No, you can't. Okay. Okay.

1:41:43I'm actually really surprised you can't do this. Are you are you are you throwing for content? What no, why would I do that because it's so easy? Fine you do it

1:41:57You're so smiling Stoic when zoom in on him

1:42:09I saw him twitch! I didn't laugh at you though. That's not fair.

1:42:16I did not laugh at you. I had a more difficult version. Sure.

1:42:26It's actually a really great trick for photographing kids. When you have a bunch of kids and they won't smile or whatever else and you just try it for the love of God. Tell them all to be serious? Yeah. Okay, everybody. everybody make the most serious face nope i i'm telling you you've got to be completely serious right now that's not that's not serious enough hey i'm warning you they'll all crack up i guarantee it every time super cool hack i remember um i was probably a teenager so i still had young siblings and a photographer pulled that move on us for like our family portrait that year or whatever and i was like i'm gonna file that away because that's gonna be useful i don't know why this made me think of this but i saw somebody recently who fed you know pills to their dog and they did so by accidentally dropping like a piece of meat off their plate but it was the like it had the pill in it i don't know maybe it wasn't a piece of meat but like something off their but their dog is like super fast about getting it yeah it's actually pretty smart that's really smart It was pretty good.

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1:45:29Yeah. What do you want to talk about, Mr. LaFrendo? What do I want to talk about? What do you want to talk about? Ubisoft. Ubisoft. Ubisoft. Do you really want to talk about Ubisoft? No, to be honest, but I think we should. Okay. After announcing a sweeping company restructure that includes the closure of two studios. Yikes! The delay of seven titles. Yikes! And the cancellation of six more. Yikes! Including the Prince of Persia Sands of Time remake. No! That was, oh, I was, oh. I love Prince of Persia Sands of Time. You looking forward to that one? Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't have given Ubisoft money for a remake of it, but whatever.

1:46:09ubisoft's lowered its financial year expectations by 330 million pounds euro euros now euro it's singular fun fact really yep why did they do that i don't know because they're bureau now a 1.5 billion euro with an operating loss of around 1 billion euro uh shares dropped 34 4 % in value on Thursday and approximate 95 % loss from five years ago and the lowest point in 14 years. How do you get to keep your job as CEO at that point? Well, you're the family that owns the company, I think. Oh, right. So, oh, the same reason I've kept my job. It's pretty good. You're not the ceo anymore though that's true that's uh wow that's a wow huh how about that that decline doesn't exactly look like it's stopping either well i mean that's the thing about you know stocks is they can you know they start they can stonks or they can stonks they can kind of they can upside down stonks yeah wow discussion question ubisoft ceo yves guimond uh is calling you right now and says i'll do anything you say to save this company please help me what do you tell him to do uh he could try um oh man what would i do to save ubisoft at this point i gotta say i don't know necessarily enough about their problems like obviously they have the problems with the product that they're delivering but i don't know enough about their I don't know enough about their problems internally because you can have a super toxic company that's hyper dysfunctional behind the scenes but manages to churn out good product even for a very long time with that dysfunction.

1:48:06And you can have a company that is very harmonious behind the scenes but has bad luck and is not ultimately successful. obviously there would be a correlation between companies that are operating harmoniously and are executing and are making money and succeeding but it's not a guarantee so i don't i just don't know enough about how i don't know enough about what's wrong with them like obviously i'm playing expedition 33 right now and it seems like the kind of game that ubisoft could have made yeah it really does externally. Like, so much. Like, where are those guys from, anyway? 33? Yeah. They're from France.

1:48:53Yes, I know. From France. Hold on. Team... Where's the... Oh! No way! No way! Okay, Wikipedia. The ideas behind Expedition 33 originated in 2019 with Guillaume Broch, an employee of Ubisoft, not long before the COVID-19 pandemic began. I can't just keep taking all these W's from my videos that no one cares about on Flowplane. My little series on gaming things, have you watched any of them? My whole point is that way back in the day with Atari and stuff, like Atari's slow death was the thing that spawned companies like Activision. And my whole argument is we're going through that again right now.

1:49:38Yeah. And this is my example as to why, is these types of things keep happening this is an offshoot from ubisoft embark studios the guys that made arc raiders another game of the year but for multiplayer uh winner this year is an offshoot from uh dice right like all these companies that are releasing like he's like new feeling companies that are releasing amazing games are very often people leaving these giant no longer properly functioning companies of effectively the past now. And making new, hyper successful often. Basically what happened with zip tie tuning. Oh, my. Oh, my. Are you the Activision of YouTube?

1:50:26In relative years, it might make sense. I think I'm still doing all right. Get owned. we've got a fun collab coming with them by the way i'm very excited i shot it monday oh that's cool yeah that's sweet yeah we uh that's exciting i think i think i think this is uh i think i think it's gonna be a very exciting future is you know what i won't say more than that it's gonna be an exciting future yeah i mean i could talk for way too long about all the things that i think ubisoft could do to to fix themselves i have lots of opinions on this i don't know if it makes sense to talk for an incredibly long time on that topic um but i think i mean some of it feels like really obvious to me um like we can start with skull and bones that was like clearly an obvious massive failure when everyone on the planet told you exactly what to do and you were like no like maybe just listen to people maybe you should have just made another like and i think they're remastering as well do that assassin's creed 4 was one of the best things you ever made remaster it sure but also make another one make a single player pirates game that is awesome no one cared about the assassin's creed portion of assassin's creed 4 all they cared about was the boats make a single player boat combat game it was sick just do it again oh my god your obviously best assassin's creed games were two and then the uh brotherhood and and ascension I think I got the names right.

1:52:04Go back to Ezio. Make a return of Ezio. It's been, I think, over a decade. I think it would be okay. I'm sure you can find a way to slot another story in, in his, like, some age gap. He got pretty old, if I remember correctly, between Brotherhood and Ascension. Find some stories in the middle there. It's probably fine. You can do it again. There's, like, a version of this for every single franchise. You're telling me you can't make a Far Cry game based around what's happening in America right now? Are you kidding me? Far Cry was always the, like, political tension game. You think there's political tension right now in the States?

1:52:40Like, find a way. There's a way for all of these things. It feels so obvious. Have they made any, like, Rayman games recently? I'm not sure. They did some weird collab with Mario, like, forever ago. Rayman. They did already. One of the Farcows was set in America. That's not current year problems. I mean, a lot of America's current year problems are not exactly new. It's mostly fair. There was some. There was a little bit. There was a little bit. Yeah. I kind of like that one. I still have one of the figurines from it. Oh, yeah. Okay. Mario plus Rabbids Spark of Hope. It doesn't even have Rayman in the name of the game.

1:53:23Rabbids. Just Rabbids. oh whoa seriously yeah they haven't done like a mainline rayman game in freaking forever who cares about rabbits i don't know that's crazy splinter cells seems like a huge dropped ball lots of potential there um well am i missing something here yeah rayman legends apparently was was the last one 2013

1:54:02whoa

1:54:07i just i'm looking at like some of their franchises right now and it's just there's like so much potential and it just feels like they've like wet noodled every one of them like far cry when far cry was like banging with like far cry 3 far cry 4 around that area they were very topical right very topical and they've just ditched that um what are their other ips just kind of curious the new anno doesn't seem like it's reviewing super well i do wonder if that has like an expansion fatigue problem where the previous ai and things a lot of the like i don't know if they've fixed this yet but it came under fire a lot because all of the like loading screens and stuff like that uh the painted backgrounds seemed to mostly just be ai generated damn um it might have changed you know but a little disappointing it feels like a classic ubisoft decision though so it's just like i don't know so here's some here's some ubisoft ip's man a lot of these have weakened a lot all of them i think i'm pretty sure every single one anno was strong until the very most recent release anno 1800 was an absolute yeah the one in the photo was wicked um man beyond good and evil has been i don't know if that's been relevant for a really long time if i was i understand this is like literally not the point if i was running the steep project i would probably do like uh i don't know what you would call it like a remix version where you go back to like ssx tricky style gameplay and release one of those remember when they released that far cry that was like blood dragon yes i would do like a blood dragon for steep and make it more like uh the like old snowboarding games like 1080 and ssx tricky and release a version of that if for no other reason to like just get people talking about your studio in a Potentially positive way like there's answers all over the place.

1:56:16They have so many legendary IP under Ubisoft and it just feels like Every time they just have to piss them away and it makes me want to scream The the skull and bones thing was such an insane disappointment. It was such an auto win that they just spent Incredible amounts of money on making sure it would fail horrendously. It's so frustrating Okay, we're good. Do you want to talk about Bethesda now? You seem like you're on a... I don't know. Maybe we could talk about the decline of Blizzard. Oh, am I like... Oh, no! Alright. Oh, you're not serious. Okay, I thought there was a Bethesda topic and I was like, I'm gonna...

1:56:59My veins gonna pop out of my head. No, no. Alright. Test 6 is actually set in the Starfield universe.

1:57:11Oh, no, my mic was unmuted. I wasn't supposed to tell you. You get to the end of the game, and you have to just delete your entire save and start over again, because for some reason that was a good idea. It takes you into Starfield, and then you have to play that. Nice, nice. And then you have to delete your whole save. It's a prequel. Yes, good, good, good, good. Hey, the worst mechanic in the entire game, let's make them do that again. Let's do that another time. the microsoft ceo microsoft ceo acknowledges that they will lose social permission to waste electricity on ai unless they do something useful with it wait in a surprising moment of self awareness microsoft ceo satya nadella admitted at the world economic forum that ai risks and this is a direct quote becoming a speculative bubble unless its use spreads beyond big tech companies and wealthy economies.

1:58:08He also said that AI companies will quickly lose the social permission to take something like energy unless it's used for improving health outcomes, education outcomes, public sector efficiency, private sector competitiveness across all sectors, small and large. More quotes. For this to not be a bubble, it requires that the benefits of this are much more evenly spread. And he also said that the a telltale sign that ai is a bubble would be that only tech companies were benefiting so it turns out they do hire really smart people to be ceos of tech companies they just way to go they just never say the quiet part out loud except when they do except for this time man davos and the world economic forum this year were just absolute fire so bangers absolutely who Who needs the real Housewives of Beverly Hills when we have DAPOs in the World Economic Forum?

1:59:10What a wild couple events. I mean, I guess that's what happens when you hire a reality star to be the head of the world's largest economy. You end up with reality TV in your politics. It is. I mean, the ratings are high. Everyone's watching. They have the best ratings. my friends called me they said you've never seen ratings like this they haven't he's right way to go um all right so this comes after microsoft reaffirmed investments of tens of billions of dollars into building ai data centers and after nadella asked the public to stop calling ai slop slop to which the public responded by changing microsoft branding on things to Microsoft.

2:00:01Because of course that was going to happen. It's so easy now that they can just do it with AI. Ah, yes, yes. Anyone can meme on Microsoft now. Our discussion question is, should big investors into AI be sweating? Yeah.

2:00:19unless you think you can time your exit really really well. i mean like i think we talked about this on wancho before and i've heard this argument elsewhere as well but like i don't think a lot like a lot of like the the googles of the world whatever man they have so much revenue flowing in um they're gonna be fine the microsoft's of the world they're gonna be fine oh yeah because they have they have real revenue do we have a real business ad thing in here an opening i ad so opening eyes talking about putting ads into their like free tier and stuff but there's a for chat gpt there's a quote there's a quote from sam altman talking about how putting ads into the service would be like a last financial resort and that quote was like not that long ago and now they're adding ads into the service um and the discussion around this is is a little bit nuanced because some people are going like okay well he said last financial resort so are they failing like is this is this the beginning of the end here's a source from pcgamer.

2:01:28whoa what site am i on again which one just in case you i didn't know yeah once called it a last resort but chat gpt is about to get stuffed with ads yeah but the the counter

2:01:42yeah sorry oh my god yeah it's a pretty good one oh because sam altman is such an ethical person yeah always always never otherwise uh even if they don't sell the data the companies they can still target you like to all hell so just be ready for that um but uh there is a counter argument that while it might actually genuinely be a last resort it doesn't mean that they're necessarily failing um if you look at i mean they might have been but this move might literally be significant enough that it actually solves their problems because there is just so much freaking money in ads and like if you look at this is a direct argument from uh doug doug i believe um which was basically like if you look at if you look at facebook and google clearly ads be banging so like this might actually be enough to just bring them all the way up it'll be interesting to observe um because i i really wonder how they're going to implement it because

2:02:50and will this open the door for all the other ones to do the same absolutely as soon as i mean this is why i always go off about apple doing something that's anti a consumer because the second apple does it it gives everybody else permission to do it it's not because i will even necessarily use the apple product it's just because everyone else blindly follows once something becomes a norm because there's another dollar to be made by not including a cable or a charger or whatever else is in the box so if the household name llm service has ads in it then everybody else is it's it's easy and they don't have to tank the reputational hit because opening eye will just do it somebody else did it first yeah yep yep um our next discussion question is haven't these companies already lost their social permission to burn energy no no i mean that's the thing so this was written by david who i think is a very he's a very dialed in person he knows he knows stuff about a lot of stuff and he's he's got a high high awareness level you know like uh high high awareness intelligence you might say ai um sorry david i would never say something that rude about you without it being a joke clearly a joke uh but anyway like david has a high level of awareness and um i think that uh i think that often we and i'm i'm talking to you guys too right now that's right you i'm talking to you whoa you guys very serious we we live in our bubble we we hang out a lot of you probably work in in the tech industry a lot of you probably gravitate towards people in your lives who who keep up with and are interested in talking to you about the tech industry you're watching how long have we been how long have we been live you are you're two and a half hours into To a podcast that is at least loosely.

2:04:51I was going to say loosely. Like maintains a facade. Yeah, there you go. Of being about technology, right? And so I feel like we end up with this inherent, I don't know if I would quite call it an echo chamber because I would like to think that we are open to new ideas. but it's definitely a self-reinforcing perception that the things that we are knowledgeable about are the same things that everyone around us is knowledgeable about and more importantly cares about but no like my sister-in-law doesn't know how much power chat gpt is using she doesn't even know it wouldn't even occur to her to ask i i think there's a lot of people that are just going to be like, you know what?

2:05:41I am invested in the stock market in general. My pension is invested in the stock market in general. I want these companies to do whatever they're going to do to make money. And I think a lot of people aren't going to say that out loud. And that's even a tier of awareness above. Yeah. Like what we're talking about here, where we care about the technical details of which NVIDIA accelerators and how much VRAM they have on them and what impact that has on the supply of silicon wafers that's going to Micron or SK Hynix for the production of consumer memory and how that's affecting the pricing of the steam machine.

2:06:20That's the kind of stuff that we're talking about on this show with the assumption that you guys are all kind of sitting there going, yeah, yeah, uh-huh, I have all the contacts to kind of follow along with this. But there's other people who are way more interested in nutritional supplements or in the in in in min maxing the performance of their truck or whatever else it is that they do and they're passionate about and they care about i'm not saying that these are not aware people i'm just saying they might have a lower level of awareness particular topic yeah about this particular topic i don't know what's going on and probably whatever they do me either i couldn't i couldn't tell you who makes the best drill right now yeah i don't know milwaukee makita yeah dewalt i'm on the team of the probably not ryobi company that i have the battery compatibility with yeah exactly right to the project farm uh yeah yeah to be honest exactly right so i'm um so none of this really surprises me that or none of this surprises me that no people haven't gotten fed up with what ai companies are doing unless these companies are operating in their backyard and and emitting a bunch of you know toxic gas and smoke into the air that's like drifting over their over their house or whatever um and no it doesn't surprise me either that david probably lives in enough of a tech knowledgeable bubble that to him it was like obvious that this is bad and to a lot of you guys like a lot of your your your adamant opposition to ai is based on understanding exactly what's going on right now um and being kind of powerless to stop it i mean we talked about this in the um in the bright side of tech video where it's like yeah you're you're a hundred like we got the i got the messaging wrong when i talked about it live on the WAN show where I was like, we need a perspective adjustment.

2:08:28A lot of people bristled at that wording. And so we avoided that wording when we did the bright side of tech video, but it was... Thank you for beta testing our video. I know, right? But it was the same point. The point was that you're 100 % right to be mad. 100%. You're 100 % right to feel powerless and frustrated 100 but just okay can we direct it to the right places that's all can we just can we point it in the right direction um was kind of what i was trying to what i was trying to get across and and and directing it at this at this at this all-in bet for the next the next 5g the next iot the next big tech trend that will make the stock go go go hockey stick higher um at the expense of you know anything else getting better for the average consumer.

2:09:35Yeah, definitely be mad about that. But, you know, maybe not everything. I don't think we have the energy to be angry about everything. I don't. It's also just like really bad for you. Well, yeah. Objectively. This is based and true. Yeah.

2:09:57Pick your battles and avoid the ones you don't have. Andre B says the bright side of tech video was a somewhat surprising video. Really appreciated it. Yeah, I wasn't sure how it was going to go. It was one of those ones that we talked about a lot in the writer's room. And we kind of, we knew that we were doing something a little bit risky. It's a lot easier to go, I am a consumer advocate. I am mad on your behalf. That is effective. It's not effective. It doesn't do anything. It can be. It can be if it's done in a way that is effective. But I haven't seen it with respect to anything around what's going on with AI right now.

2:10:45Like being mad about Micron shuttering the Crucial brand is not going to change that decision. I think the biggest impact we've seen actually is in gaming with a few companies coming out and saying that they'll limit their usage of it or whatever. Yeah. which is interesting. And also, I don't know how much, I don't know if I believe it's going to last, man. And I also have heard that that is causing some issues within a couple studios, not one, I've heard more than one, where some of the workers are actually really frustrated. By not being able to use it. Yeah. That doesn't surprise me at all.

2:11:26because there was certain cases where the higher-ups didn't even know to what degree it was being used and then made statements being like whatever dude i i found out i found out about an ai tool that we were using yesterday in a meeting with an external company i had no idea so apparently you know the the safety pass on our videos where we check for exposed email addresses oh yeah ip addresses um physical addresses phone numbers are you doing an automated run of that as well apparently there's an automated run of that before a human goes in and checks it yeah so you do the classic you don't actually remove the human step but you add in that one to help and we we've tuned it to be extremely sensitive so out of 20 positives probably only two of them will be real apparently then when the human check happens they can just verify those things but i literally didn't even know we were doing that and uh and and um a member of our a member of our team uh james was telling this this other entity that we were chatting with and sort of sharing exchanging trade secrets basically yeah learning from each other um he he was like yeah and like the best thing about it is that for a 20 minute video it doesn't take 20 minutes to watch it it can do it in like a few seconds and then you can just be surgical about what you're then reviewing as a human it's like it doesn't surprise me at all then that the leadership at these companies literally just had no idea what the employees were doing because at the end of the day as long as the work output quality is high the way we're going it's just gonna it's gonna be another tool whether you like it or not yeah for a lot of people it already is and for a lot of people it has been for a long time as well like there's nothing you could do as you know let's say larian there's nothing that you could do as larian to prevent your concept artists from generating a bunch of ai slop on their computer at home being in and then being inspired the next day when they come into the office you literally can't yeah you can't actually technically control it you can you can set uh like a tone for your company you can you can try to set like a general expectation and then people would have to work around that and be sneaky and dodgy about it which will significantly reduce it potentially to zero but you can't actually guarantee that it will be at zero the the cat's out of the bag this is this is the same argument i've made in the past about like um the ai regulation stuff is like i don't know what you can do at this point um and i'm very open to ideas to be clear i'm not saying don't do anything but like the the models have already been trained and then open sourced they're out there there's no where you can't turn this off there's no turning the faucet to close it's it's it's out there people are running this in home labs you cannot take it fully away anymore and in fairness a lot of the ideas are really good like look at this tiger polar bear can you imagine can you imagine star wars with creature design of this caliber that is what ai's it's just so sad man sorry sorry sorry pawn crackers goes oh no not again it's so sad for so many reasons because like that obviously just in and of itself is depressing but then just seeing what has happened to star wars and then seeing that that is a genuinely like praised idea coming out of that camp just is so that's not even the worst one this is the worst one yeah this is by far the worst one yeah they're all so bad though

2:15:20he looks he even looks sad if you scroll down like he actually just looks sad he's like why did this happen to me oh i hate being alive this one is upset that he has to wear that costume it sounds like why did they why did they put weird dots on me they ever show this just show don't show it to no one show it to no one and talk about it not at all that would be the solution pat them on their head and tell them to run off to their cubicle again and go do more productive things r.i.p star wars um speaking of open sourcing algorithms um elon musk has been talking about open sourcing the recommendation algorithm behind x since before he bought twitter and attempted to rebrand it x earlier this week news broke that it was finally happening but the story evolved rapidly with the target date shifting from next week to march 31st no there is an existing github repository purporting to be the code behind the algorithm but most of the code is from before x was x with the latest changes coming back in september of 2025 i wonder if when they open source it if they ever do we'll be able to find the part where his tweet is always at the very top of my feed regardless of whether i follow him or not yeah probably not probably not probably not google begins rolling out personal intelligence beta for ai pro and ai ultra subscribers gemini with personal intelligence hopes to combine the data from across many different google products gmail youtube photos drive search calendar etc to provide highly personalized answers google's pitch as to why you don't have to worry about privacy is literally and because this data already lives at google securely you don't have to send sensitive data elsewhere to start personalizing your experience which love it i have to insert is just true they already have it all anyways they're not like it's maybe this is a quiet part out loud thing but like i read that and i was like yeah they also promised that gemini doesn't train directly on your gmail inbox or google photos library but they will train on prompts and responses within Gemini okay and I think a key word there is directly for example when prompted Gemini will tell you where it pulled the information from so you can verify it and you can correct it on the spot i.e i don't like golf or I just dropped my son off there for work it will also filter out or obfuscate what it deems to be personal data well good luck with that yeah sure it definitely will definitely do that also AIs have no history of gaslighting you're telling you things that are false ever they definitely would never do that this is not a problem I'm kind of tempted to try it just to see if like it does anything useful at all but i also just feel like it's going to end up being probably set an alarm for you just one yeah oh the fact that like set timer and set alarm are not just like running locally on my device and i have to wait around for the cloud delay is nuts in 2026 i i didn't have networking on my phone and i tried to set an alarm and it just sat there spinning and i realized why and i was like oh my god i want to smash this thing it would be so simple to process that locally but no but no okay our next topic gigs in space and the first note for this from mr jordan block is sorry i've been re-watching old muppets shows that's kind of based really good i uh i forget how old i was but i was an adult i didn't watch the muppets as a kid because it was a little before my time um but i i did watch the the muppet show it's so good it's like so funny and subversive and i am old enough that i at least know who a lot of the people they're making references to are um yeah it's uh i don't know that younger people would enjoy it.

2:19:12I think mid to elder millennial is probably about as young as you'd want to be, but it's really good. Yeah. And the reboot movies were good too, at least the first one or two were. On Wednesday this week, Blue Origin, the Bezos-founded space technology company, announced their upcoming TerraWave, a network of more than 5 ,000 satellites in low Earth orbit that they say will deliver symmetrical speeds of up to 6 terabit per second anywhere on the globe. uh well i'll believe that when i see it the new network is expected to serve up to 100 000 customers globally and will offer both rf 144 gigabit per second and optical six terabit per second connectivity options current low earth orbit constellations are serving millions of customers with asymmetric speeds up to one gigabit per second download and 400 megabit per second upload with the main one being of course starlink uh there is another one what is it called um um galileo galileo um how many satellites but i think uh starlink is like way ahead of the others ai overview says as of late 2025 the galileo says figaro

2:20:34what is this a reference to yeah i heard about it i got i got duped by a float plane kerbal space program mod that was a good one chat i like that that's good dang i haven't had egg on my face for a while tastes good

2:20:58yeah apparently there's really not a lot of galileo satellites up there yet um no galileo is also um people are saying galileo is gps equivalent well hold on a second what does um

2:21:15hold on hold on i'm gonna figure this out um I mean, it's definitely a thing. LEO satellite, go-go Galileo, broadband connectivity for every airframe. Like, it's definitely internet connectivity, high-speed, low-latency internet to business aircraft. I don't know how many satellites they have. Apparently, Galileo is Europe's GPS, so maybe it's just a double-naming thing? Maybe there's two different companies. GoGoGalileo uses the UTELSAT-1Web low-Earth-orbit satellite constellation, which consists of somewhere around 600 satellites, according to the AI overview. Okay, so it's the UTELSAT-1Web.

2:22:04How many 1Web satellites are in orbit? As of early March 2023, according to Wikipedia, there are 584. Okay, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it. Well, anywho, a discussion question. Could this be a viable solution for remote ingest of footage when we're shooting on location? I mean, potentially, but it's all going to depend on, like Starlink, what the power requirements are and the fixture requirements are for the base stations, which I haven't seen yet. What is Starlink operating over? Like what frequency? Well, this was saying RF or optical. Starlink's definitely not optical yeah I feel like optical is going to be tough they're trying to talk about the 6 terabits per second but optical so it's like yeah I don't know dude sounds pretty awesome but like I wonder does your does your transfer get cancelled if a plane flies overhead or if there's a cloud or what if a complicated flies overhead it's very interesting to me though that's crazy like it sounds kind of uh pretty epic i would like to know more i'd like to know what the complications are and stuff like that how much of a difference is it in latency if you're at like 40 000 feet versus if you're on the surface of the earth for like a for like a low earth orbit internet connection i wonder huh like how high how high in feet are satellite to satellite is optical for starlink that makes sense but am i am i misreading this is is their optical just satellite to satellite oh okay they're like 1.8 million feet so it wouldn't make that much of a difference are the notes of this like kind of weird is it not optical down to earth is it just optical to each other's satellites yeah it can't be optical down to earth no way so then it's our the way it's word it is anyways whatever we're moving on the show today is brought to you by factor meals james from the business team has been going through his third playthrough of final fantasy 6 oh good uh this time the pixel remaster and he says he lost track of time trying to get the ultima weapon last weekend and didn't end up making dinner until well past 10 p.m.

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2:26:09No credit card required. That's a reference from one of Riley's CSPs for Odoo. Yes, Dan, we know. Should go and watch more advertisements. Flowplane chat. Yeah, Flowplane. What are you doing? I have seen people asking ads. I've seen people asking, can we have compilations? Yeah, we should do a 2025 compilation probably yeah yeah oh man i'm sore you good bro i did badminton three days in a week sunday monday tuesday i just wrecked myself i'm just i'm not as young as i once was brother i mean in fairness i went pretty hard i think even when i was younger i probably would have myself pretty good doing this but i think i like i kind of like pulled something in here my left arm ironically what's up with that yeah right see that's what the face i made muscles in the back get real weird the u.s government will be taking a 25 cut of amd and nvidia's ai sales to china uh the u.s government has decided it will take a 25 cut of revenue for certain ai chips that amd and nvidia sell to china as part of new tariff rules this isn't just a tax it's tied to a broader export policy that now lets those companies export advanced ai processors like nvidia's h200 and amd's mi325x to china after importing them into the u.s first so basically yeah there isn't actually a problem with our geopolitical rival having access to these advanced processors they just need to like pay a bit more and be shipped around for no reason or chips only qualify if they meet specified specific performance and technical thresholds exporters must prove to the prove that the u.s market is fully supplied first and that shipments to China can't exceed half of what's sold in the US, all of which limits how many GPUs will actually move.

2:27:58The idea behind the cut is to let US firms get back into China's AI market while the government extracts revenue instead of outright banning the sales. This policy is unusual and is meant to survive legal challenges because it applies only to certain chips that meet specific criteria. So good luck everyone with all of that. That seems like a perfectly good plan. Meanwhile, the US Department of Health and Human Services is worried about the dangers of radio signals and has removed web pages that assert that cell phones are safe. Really? Nice. So at the highest level of the world's largest economy's government, we're actually like 5G paranoia?

2:28:40Really? Nice. Is this real, this timeline that we're on? Nice. Yeah, Mew says, back to this again. an hhs representative directed by the maha initiative said that they removed the web pages that had old conclusions that required more research to identify gaps in knowledge in radio safety a lot of the 5g hate that's out there is based on a handful of studies like one that showed a link between the persistent use of cell phones which resulted in the formation of tumors and nerves surrounding the hearts of male rats but not female rats or mice um optional editorializing says our notes from Mr. David Gauthier.

2:29:19Most scientists see this study and say that the field requires more research, but many conspiratorial social media health influencers see that as the most convincing proof they've ever seen because they've never seen real scientific proof before. Or if they have seen it, they wouldn't recognize it, I added the last bit. Kenneth R. Foster, Ph.D., professor emeritus of bioengineering at the University of Pennsylvania, said in a 2018 article that people have been using cell phones for decades, and so far there's been no noticeable increase in brain cancer. Dr. Foster said this means that the risk, if it occurs at all, is too low to detect with any reliability.

2:29:53So that's basically where we're at on that. And we have apparently moved backwards now in terms of understanding of all of this, which is pretty neat. Tyler says there was a lawmaker in Florida posting about chemtrails this week. So here's the thing. It's so chemtrails is one of those ones that's super easy to logic your way out of because the conspiracy theory is they put chemicals in the air for mind control to which you reply. Okay, then why isn't it controlling your mind? And how are you able to see through it? I have superior lungs. I guess you should test that. Try putting a plastic bag on your head.

2:30:39Nope. And then seeing how long you can breathe in it for. I can resist that because I have resisted the mind control. I am undefeatable. You will never win. See, that's the problem with using logic to argue with illogical people. They're impervious to it. It's remarkable. I would be impervious because I am undefeatable. I can mute you. I am impervious to the mute. You would have to mute yourself as well. I cannot be defeated.

2:31:17Maybe I should just give up on all of this and go be a gay frog somewhere. I did not see that coming at all. They never see the gay frogs coming. Oh my. asus smartphone development is apparently on pause while the company shifts its focus to ai asus chairman johnny shee has stated that asus will no longer add new mobile phone models in the future instead asus will focus on developing ai products such as robots and smart glasses with that said existing phones will continue to receive software updates and warranty support our discussion question from mr david pancratz is has there really ever been an asus phone that would actively recommend anyway?

2:31:59Is this a huge loss? I strongly believe a significant amount of companies are branding fairly obvious company and operational and directional changes as we are pivoting to AI in a hope that that gets enough attention to pump their stock. That's it. Same thing as people branding layoffs as return to office. I think it's the same thing. I think it's just companies doing company stuff and just branding the company stuff in the most stock pumping way possible. And I think that's it. Meegor in floatplane chat says, is he still made phones? Yeah. But this is my point. Like, why were they still doing that?

2:32:38I don't know. It's a good question. So if you're on their side, maybe you want to stop. Yeah. And maybe the way to stop is be like, we're going to do AI stuff instead. Right. Right. When you probably could have done both yeah it seems to me red magic has sort of like a monopoly on gaming phones that actually make any sense at all for sure is there is there anyone i'm missing i think uh i don't think there's a massive market for it i mean red magic exists and as far as i can tell they don't have they don't do anything else sure yep i've also never seen one in the wild i have oh i've actually also seen an rog phone in the wild and not one that someone won at our christmas party um i was quite surprised to see it someone took a picture like at a taiwanese tech mall or something and they like had an rog phone i was like what there you go feels a little unfair that it was at a taiwanese tech well i don't make the rules yeah yeah um anyways i think that's all this is personally i don't blame them for the change and i don't even blame them for trying to market it in a way that pumps the stock it's just companies doing company stuff so what will be our ai pivot

2:33:58we don't benchmark anything anymore we tell the ai the specs and we tell it the historical performance of various things. We inform it that companies generally go after price bands. We tell it what the cost of the device will be and then we ask it how it performs. That sounds really cheap. I'm in. I'm convinced. Let's do it. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Nice. Okay. Vimeo is laying off staff globally after its$1.38 billion sale to Bending Spoons. after being bought by italian tech firm bending spoons for about 1.38 billion vimeo has cut a large chunk of its workforce with former employees saying it felt like almost everyone was let go including reportedly the entire video team which isn't that like what vimeo does video established in 2004 a year prior to youtube vimeo has carved out a niche as a high-end video hosting platform catering primarily to professional creators and businesses rather than viral entertainment.

2:34:59It's actually the second set of job cuts in a few months. Back in September, Vimeo trimmed about 10 % of their staff before the acquisition wrapped. Bending Spoons has a bit of a history of buying tech platforms like WeTransfer, Evernote, Meetup, and then making deep cuts afterward, which makes this feel a little less surprising. I think calling this a bit of a history is completely fair for the person who wrote this, but I will editorialize a little bit and say this is what they do. They enter into spaces, purchase companies up, consolidate, simplify, lay off, fire, take profit, and then who knows after that.

2:35:46Yeah. Acquisitions. I'm just trying to see like who they... Products. Vimeo, Evernote, Eventbrite, WeTransfer, Meetup, komoot aol stream yard is sue mile iq harvest break cove and remini apparently they have a thousand employees wow wow indeed wow indeed private equity go brr yeah no kidding

2:36:19so here's a question doesn't dropout use vimeo yes they do should they use float plane that'd be pretty sick um

2:36:35that'd be pretty sick i've always seen getting them on float plane is the like the i don't know the special artifact the holy grail whatever i always thought that would be really cool um i really like what they do over there

2:36:55are we ready i don't know i think we could be we need to do some work to make our thing more like what i think that they want um

2:37:09i'm not sure like that'd be i i wouldn't obviously think that they would just upload to float plane that would be stupid but well if they were to do something like sauce plus where they had their own but they they do i think yeah i haven't dove into this in a while but i i would make the assumption that vimeo is just delivering their video yeah yeah yeah yeah so their site is actually just theirs anyways man they have so much cool stuff my goodness they make so much content it's actually mind-blowing they're an extremely interesting company it's it's it's funny because they have a crazy amount of subscribers from what I've heard.

2:37:48I don't know if it's real or not. Um, but they have a, they have a wild amount of subscribers claimed at least. Um, they have a insane amount of like shows and originals and different things that they make. Um, but they're so like not super public because all their stuff is paid access. Yeah. And it's, it's just fascinating how like successful they've been at this model. Um,

2:38:19yeah, I don't know. They're a cool group.

2:38:24I wonder what that would even look like, like us just doing infra, infra and not doing the platform. It would look like yet again, something we've never done before.

2:38:39Uh, we could do it. We've, we've like theory crafted scenarios where it's something like that but that's not a like becoming vimeo was never a target because vimeo existed you know like it was oh wow yeah uh this was just linked by max o drive in floatplane chat uh websites using vimeo download a list of all 2 million 115 701 current vimeo customers oh yeah built with is a really cool website oh that's super cool yeah built with is awesome actually huh i mean is it at some point should we like try and make it fly or should we just like not really bother you know one of the problems um and this is like it's a problem and it's also a big part of the reason why we still exist so i don't know i don't know what you want to call it but some of the original tenets of flowplane was basically like it should always be either neutral or paw or profitable as much as possible oh yeah it needs to be as independent and and self-reliant as possible all these other types of things all of those pillars that we initially laid out strongly resist explosive growth you how do you how do you how do you build to scale when you can't out hire your profitability yeah it's like it's we we set up the pillars to be the least silicon valley company possible We really did.

2:40:10While still making a software tool. So the team's like tiny. Yeah. And incredible, by the way. Yes. Just throwing that out there. The fact that it exists at all at the size of the team is like fascinating. And I've had long conversations with people that have talked to me about how it actually doesn't make any sense. And I'm like, well, it is a thing. So I don't know what to tell you. Gibberim says their platform website is a Vimeo website with a dropout skin. they need active platform support rather than just a backend. Interesting. Okay. And RySaw says, Dropout allegedly surpassed a million subscribers recently.

2:40:45Could Floatplane handle that kind of load? I mean, I don't see any reason why we couldn't scale to accommodate it. Theoretically, we could scale to that, yeah. Like, Floatplane is, it's small, but not because it has to be. It's small because it keeps costs manageable. I don't know what features they have and stuff, though. Like, I deep dove this a while ago, but it's been a while. I would think they would have a lot more in the way of like analytics and tracking than we do. Like we're pretty loosey goosey. They can, they can give subscriptions. Yeah. We should really have that. We should, we should do that.

2:41:20Yeah. Yeah. And also trial subscriptions and stuff. Yeah. So like there's, there's things we would need to do. We're not, we're not, we're not ready this second. Um, I would have loved to be, I wish this happened a little bit later because I would love to work with with them not even because the million subscribers thing obviously company had on that's really cool but like i just think like man there's such a unique like i i find talking to creators at events fascinating like open sauce is one of my favorite events to go to because you just hang around with a huge variety of different creators all the time and just talk about like what they're doing and how it's working and man is dropout unique like my god rysau says they've been getting some flack for low quality merch maybe you could help them there too i don't know we're like we're in this weird we're at this weird kind of inflection point where i think we kind of have to decide where we're going we um we're not really continuing to scale the way that we used to years ago just on our own and we're not really um it would require a large investment and a huge leap of faith to become like a service, a creator services company in the way that I think you guys are kind of envisioning as a future for, for LMG slash CW slash float plane.

2:42:51And.

2:43:04It's not an easy decision, right? Because I've gotten pretty comfortable. Do I want to bet it all again? Do I want to convince my wife to bet it all again? For what?

2:43:24Yeah, it's tough. I don't think it would change my quality of life if LMG CWFP was a 10 times larger company.

2:43:39And that's the thing like we could, I don't know. I don't love the idea of bringing in venture capital to take a chunk, to inject the cash, to build and scale this thing. managing people is the thing i like least about my job to be clear it's not that i don't like the people i actually i i love the team that i get to work with every day that's uh that's one of the most privileged things about my life actually turns out managing people is not hanging out with people yeah it's so lame

2:44:15i hate doing that and nothing that i can um yeah i don't know hyo biz says a company i worked for hit about 60 employees and stopped growing and it worked well. I don't think chasing more and more is always the best. I really liked working there. Yeah. But I bet you outgrew it. So that's another thing. It's, it's, there's never a perfect answer. There's people on the team that will not want to grow. Um, I mean, I've been rather outspoken about not having wanted to grow. and then i mean i think we've felt the pain of that growth we've also reaped the benefits of that growth it's not it's not a it's not a simple answer um but there's some people that won't stay if you do that forced growth and there's people that won't stay if you don't yeah so it's like steven j asks have you ever thought of putting cw outside of the merch space not that we call it merch anymore you have such quality products i just bought a bunch of the plain shirts and when they arrived my thoughts were like why aren't these just a product and and they they are from our point of view and yeah we'd love to but it's like it's not that it's not that simple like from a logistic standpoint from an economic standpoint um like you'd be you like on paper right it seems simple luke luke underscore laugher twitch twitch streamer yeah right i mean well like yeah not lately yeah but like okay sure sure sure luke yes gets this cleanup wizard shirt from ltt store and he goes oh sorry who makes this and did the label say cw yet or do they say ltt still it looks like it does uh yes yeah so he sees this label and he goes oh wow creator warehouse i'm a creator uh and i wear things i i'm in a house but wow it's like it's a match made in heaven um and he goes i'd love to i'd love for my my luke laffer i'm gonna make a burb shirt and it's just gonna be a budgie on the front and the budgie is gonna be looking like this and it's just gonna be thinking it's gonna have a thought bubble and it's gonna be like burb and like war sure i do you know what love it burb war burb war shirt and uh yeah yeah 10 of 10 jeremy says i would buy one sale okay yes now what luke has this idea he has this shirt that he's like this is pretty cool how do we get that graphic on the shirt how do we get it onto a website where you will buy it how do we manage Luke's exposure to this inventory I don't want any exposure no he doesn't how do we manage the lead times of the inventory that we will I guess we what we have to carry now so to so that he has blank shirts for him to print bourbon once in a while whenever he feels like it what will be the minimum print quantities for the print shop that we work with we don't own our own print shop we work with a local company and then there's another print shop in the states that we work on next to our us us 3pl that's going to be helping us out in the near future they actually some really nice prints recently that i'm going to be the chat just print on demand dummy yeah uh okay who who will do it what will be the costs of that um times yeah like silk screening is way more cost effective over a certain quantity and print on demand direct to garment printing is way more cost effective for very low quantities but these are going to be really expensive shirts and that's just oh i meant like lead times like how long will it take you to get the shirt oh yeah oh dude it'll take longer take a minute um it's hurley time says just open your own print shop i mean yeah if i had a casual i think the last time we looked into it is around 400 000 to 600 000 worth of equipment plus we need a space if i and people here are going to be managing it it's going to need to be a space around here which is money

2:48:32staff like nothing is that simple how will how will we make sure that the customers that are buying from luke all um paid the taxes correctly and all the like customs and whatever nonsense on their shipment and we make sure that are we handling luke's accounting now will he remit all of those correctly and properly? Is that our responsibility or is that his? There's also like, Wansho Bingo said, print to order is the only real solution. Have a three to five week time on all orders. Like, yeah, I'm sorry. I don't know if I want the shirt that I just bought to show up in two months. Like, huh? That's always been really frustrating for me about print to order stuff.

2:49:17It's like, I don't know. Am I a spoiled, I have it now dopamine machine? Maybe, but... like five weeks lead time i'm assuming that's just production and then they actually have to ship it and stuff like that's a really long time to wait yeah and and to be clear these are all things that are solvable so everyone who's suggesting solutions you are 100 right but the question is is that where we want to invest our time and is that where we want to invest our capital because we have a limited amount of both of those things what if instead of doing any of that i just made another video every week that'd be kind of cool um probably higher profit margins and we have room for that and i already know how to do that we have upload slots yep um or we just make another really cool product for ltd store and then we don't have to split margin with another creator we do another podcast yeah we'll do the we'll do the white dudes with facial hair podcast there isn't enough white dudes with facial hair podcasts you're right we should add another one you're 100 right needs i i just i agree with you asking for i agree with you so completely that like if i agreed with you anymore we'd probably start beating each other off we need more white dudes with facial hair circle jerking in the podcast space maybe we could we could innovate by having three white dudes yeah i mean uh we could get another chair i could sit in the corner yeah well no you can't be in the corner because we'd have to be in a circle obviously it's just physics dan yeah but i mean technically like a triangle fits in to a circle oh he wants a cock chair thanks dad yeah yeah didn't get it didn't get it that's fine

2:51:12that's okay i got more cocks for you later

2:51:19anyways yeah i mean i would i mean we had a conversation about like how cool it would be to be the back end for dropout like a month ago in like a float plane staff call and everybody was like yeah sick also quite ready for that right now but like that would be sick we want to focus on our app we want to actually get a tv app out there like we're we're not blind to the people to the things that people have been asking for um we want to get those things figured out uh we've been having some trouble with our app where where there's a new head of did i talk about that i don't name them but i can say that it exists the new role that was hired go for it there's new head of hr in here and i've already talked to them about hiring for app dev for flowplane like it's we want to figure that out um if that's figured out though there isn't like a ton left like we're not ready but we're not far from being ready and we spent like a solid like two years you know dealing with a bunch of the like early days tech debt and stuff to the point where we're we're in a pretty good spot pretty modern in terms of like the tech stack we're pretty scalable uh the team like i said is super smart um and i think would be like ready for a challenge as long as they're resourced appropriately.

2:52:43Like I'm... We're just small. Yeah, it's small. Yeah. We have one more topic. By the way, David's answer for what was the last relevant Ubisoft game is he thinks other than 2023's Prince of Persia, The Lost Crown, which was great, and then the team behind it was disbanded. The last great or majorly relevant UB game, in his opinion, is Assassin's Creed Odyssey back in 2018, which is rough. odyssey was sick and in my opinion underrated uh last topic for today new leaks show nvidia's n1x gaming laptops are reportedly set to debut this quarter with n2 on its way for 2027 a new digi times report says that nvidia's n1x windows on arm laptop chip is back on the internal roadmap with a q1 2026 consumer launch followed by three more variants in q2 likely aimed at the enterprise this lines up with reports of an unreleased arm-based n1x cpu being spotted in a shipping manifest for an unnamed dell laptop n1 and n1x is confirmed to be the same silicon used in the dgx spark nvidia's ai workstation that kind of looks like a mac mini on steroids considering that sources say that the next gen n2 series is already on its way for your q3 2027 it seems a little Strange that N1 wasn't even mentioned at CES 2026.

2:54:02I had a little off the record conversation with a fellow tech journalism bro that I respect a lot. I'm not going to name him because I don't know if he was at liberty to talk about any of this. But basically, apparently, this silicon has been an absolute cluster bomb over at NVIDIA. and uh none of the none of the external um unimpressedness with the dgx spark was a major surprise to to my bro um i remember carmack like i pretty much the first thing he said about it was like does this thing overheat or something like that that was that was a pretty epic burn yeah so dgx spark has uh has has not been quite as impressive and the these arm arm on windows gaming laptops have been i think the first time they were supposed to launch was like ces 2025 or was it computex before that i can't remember the first time they were supposed to launch but they've been punted down the road a multiple times at this point um lol inverse says dgx Spark is great for concurrency lol.

2:55:20Alright, well, there you go. I think it's time for After Dark. Should we do this thing? Let's do this After Dark thing. Wow, you guys are loving the Cleanup Wizard merch. I'm... products! Damn it. Ha ha! Got him.

2:55:40Yeah, Cleanup Wizard t-shirt is killing it. A lot of people picking up Linus Cat Tips pins. pins are great love the pins they are they're so cute i requested a couple of the mouse pads as well for a friend of mine and cool i might still want to nice all right um talking of mats hey dlo question for linus will the mod mat have esd protection if so what are you using to test it uh yes and i'm using tatiana to test it also i think the cw engineering team was involved in that as well linus how often should one paint the walls of their home to maintain it for selling later on and are there any renovations that provide a lot of value to a house buyer mom renovating house right now?

2:56:33So this is a funny thing, right? Because there's a, man, there's a lot of different, there's a lot to unpack here. So many people wait until the moment that they're moving out of their home to freshen it up for sale. And I have to imagine that people do this because it's a tried and true strategy to maximize the value of your home. I have to assume that. I don't know that for sure. And if it was me and I was shopping for a house, I would actually much rather they didn't paint it. I would actually much rather they had, as I walk into this house with scuffs and dings everywhere on the walls, one of those paint chip books, and it just included fresh paint because then I could pick the color, which would obviously be more likely to be a color i wanted wait interesting so you're saying like we will paint it for you before you even get the home but you get to pick what color because i'm i'm paying for it anyway so i might as well get a color that i actually want nope you get white i think i think that painting a house right before you sell it is causing an epidemic of blandness yes because resale white is the only color that anyone's going to want to paint on it to make it look fresh and open and bright.

2:57:54And as soon as you move into a new home, and I've done this, that's been freshly painted, you kind of go, well, it was just painted. I'd be an idiot for painting it now. I'll do it later. You're never going to do it until finally you move out having spent the last 10 years of your life living in like dinged, dented, messy wall land only to go, oh wow man this place looks so great I wonder if we should have just lived here for longer maybe we should have just spent money on the house at a time when we would be the ones to enjoy it instead of these new people who are moving in and they don't even like that color yeah nice

2:58:40I'd say the most important thing in terms of what I'm looking for when I shop for a home is that I'm not going to suffer from death by a thousand cuts. but i don't know that that's the norm like i'm i'm looking for you know hey is this a place that looks like they didn't just slap a coat of paint on it sorry i saw a reddit thread that uh i think is actually a brilliant idea they they said that you should get electro boom out to come check out the tech house i did see that i don't know that another video like going through it again would add a ton of value i think with him it would be freaking sick i'll cons i'm considering it oh i I think it would be cool.

2:59:20Very cool. Love Medi. Always love collaborating with Medi. He's awesome. He is a walking content machine, and he's such a nice guy. Just like the most genuine guy, you guys. Love Medi. What happened to the Linus Does Vibe Coding video? It's coming. I actually don't know. It's soon TM. yeah well at some point it will it will happen yeah our writers have a lot of balls they do predominantly male department they do and they got to juggle them uh sometimes you gotta how many balls did they have terrible stop don't take some bait get go move on hey stop hey lld you do a seated floss What is he even doing?

3:00:18What is he even happening? What is happening? He's planking. This man's planking. I genuinely did not see that coming. They never do. Oh my. Jeez. Hey, LLD. Linus, since Final Fantasy Tactics Remaster has sold a million copies, do you think there is hope for a sequel or a prequel to it maybe pick up orlando's story and would you play it i'd play the crap out of it uh i mean the fact that it took this long for them to it's good but like not super high effort remaster it um is is remarkable and gives me no faith but also hey they sold a million freaking copies so that seems like for a financially motivated company like square enix like hello hello maybe you should do more of this kind of signal but that maybe they'll just completely ignore i mean don't isn't that yeah that's in square enix the one that has that activist investor that's like hey you guys are being really stupid and like you actually need to stop being stupid now so maybe they'll listen maybe they won't maybe ubisoft needs one of those yeah maybe they do won't be me i mean i probably afford to buy a significant chunk of the company at that share price, but would I want it?

3:01:40And to be clear, no, I can't. That is joke. Ubisoft is still worth so, so, so much more than I... If you owned all their IP, we could do some cool stuff. Ubisoft... We could do some sick stuff, dude. Total value. What's their total value? The bar's pretty low, Luke. Dude, exactly. Yeah. So good. Linus Studios sure would not call it that I would not call a company my name again if you had Ubisoft you could probably employ enough people that it would make sense to do some form of like stop it housing development okay Dan next one I've given you Linus Town maybe I have given you frameworks in the past for just that Linus and he ignored me lubisoft so what we do all x-rated games you'd make some money dude oh man dang oh that's good hi dll question for linus which ldd merch item do you think didn't get as much love as it deserved i love some of your one-off products like the ram sticks that was so cute i saw mine the other day because yvonne and i were getting ready for the ski season and we were sorting our outdoor wear and i was like the ram stick scarf that's that's uh well probably a little depressing to look at for people these days since it's the only ram that they might be able to afford uh but but it's so cute it was so cute uh what didn't get as much love as it deserved i'm gonna answer this even though it was specifically asked to linus but that uh all black 3d printed down jacket oh the 3d down is genuinely like an incredible jacket and I think it was like too expensive for a product that people don't get to try on first because everyone that actually tried that jacket on was like oh this is very nice I love that jacket but it yeah the dropout hoodie the dropout hoodie I love very legit this hoodie yeah um they don't let me wear it because it's not for sale anymore in any like sizes that matter but I freaking love that hoodie just the and I just I love the idea behind it the multiple layers of the meaning how it looks like a university or college hoodie but I didn't graduate so it just is LTT and it's like I don't know I I love it and and also just like in the tech space that whole drop out but be successful anyway thing is such a thing like i just and also ltt is sure entertaining but also this may surprise some people on some corners of the internet but we do actually like teach people stuff as well um it's definitely edumac so i just loved all the all the layers of ltt school of hard knocks like yeah exactly charged nuclei um hoodie and it was also just such a quality garment i love the the fit and fit the feel of it and i just yeah yep wanted that to do better we ended up having to liquidate a lot of them which hurt because it was just such a good product wouldn't be easier to like burn them rather than like melt them nice hi dlo no no you got to do it for yourself too low quality ding get out of here hi dll what is a new completely new hardware that you are excited about that's not just an improvement on other hardware for example for smartphone for smartwatch is this asking us to like invent a device i don't think so i think this is like that's like what's the new thing about yeah what is a new thing can you name a new thing um i think Apple topic, right?

3:05:43I think the Valve Steam frame is kind of a new product. But that's an improvement on other hardware. It is sort of, but it's like, it's a standalone headset, but also it uses the onboard computer to do wireless streaming better than it's ever been done before for VR. And it's a PC VR headset, but it has really good quality and mobility. and you can also play like windows x86 games on the arm cpu it's like okay fine it's an improvement yeah um because there's a first smartphone first smartwatch theoretically i'm still excited about smart glasses but i just like can't motivate myself to put a pair on so i don't know how to reconcile that if asus figures it out it makes some cool ones that'd be kind of neat but asus on the software side though yeah i kind of doubt it sorry guys they've done some stuff that's been better than expected like their software on the rog ally is much better than i expected it to be okay their overlay stuff it just it just works um and that from my understanding is not that simple i think if there's a robot that can do my laundry and do the dishes that would be huge and not like fall over or smash things while doing so and not be remotely pirated or piloted.

3:07:07My goodness. It's also a fairly important one. I'd also really like it to not be calling home about every single detail of my entire life, including the layout of my house and where I am at all points in time. Home kit, smart robot. See? Yes. Yeah. Yes. It could turn off your lights for you properly. walking over to impressing the screen that is so smart switch with extra steps that's so retro it's so vintage literal steps literal steps i really like that but yeah if it's if it's a home kit i i control it it's uh it it doesn't phone home everything that ever happens um and it's a robot and i can do my laundry do my dishes and other various annoying things like that if you take out the garbage stuff like that you could huge oh god you could ask the garbage would be amazing ask it to set an alarm and it would grab your phone and then just do that for you see that's we just need we just need like more boston dynamics robots because they can just do everything that the the things can this is where we're going setting how much do you think the robot that isn't just adware is going to cost and then everyone buys the one that's just spying on you and serves you ads 25 000 more there's no way no no shot luke i did cheap car it's really really hard to buy a non-smart tv right now oh yeah i'll put it i'll say that i'll say that that's the only way they reach these prices it'll probably be impossible to buy a yeah uh non always internet connected smart home robot but i would like it to be a thing because i don't No.

3:08:49That's how you break it. It's so much fun. I was wondering why it was broken at like that spot of all places. I mean, there's no way I did that too. No, that's the problem is most likely the table. Or the chair, one of the two. Then why isn't mine broken? Skill issue.

3:09:10All right, what do we got next, Dan? Oh, yeah, my job. Hey LLD, Luke My wife wants to know how your birds are I don't But she wears the pants Thanks for all the fun Okay, well cover your ears and I'll talk directly to your wife I wouldn't let him do that Especially don't let him make her chicken There's birds involved Get out, man They're doing alright You can sit on the chair in the corner Yeah, we can be friends Yeah, they're doing good Actually, one of them was recently sick again, but it was very, very short-lived, which is great. The bird or the sickness? I can infer. I'd hope so. But yeah, they're doing good.

3:09:59All three of them now, for people that don't know that update, which I think is a decent amount of people know that one, but maybe not everyone. There's three birds now. um one which was we had already like purchased it from a breeder to be a buddy for our previous bird and then our previous bird passed away so then the time window from having a bird to having a bird again was like really short because there was a bird that we were already receiving because we bought it uh and then we bought that bird a buddy um and then there was a bird that was out in the wild in, in. It was in the park in Langley, right?

3:10:37No, it was in Richmond, but it was in a park. Um, and this would be the second bird that, uh, Emma recovered. Um, but this one, no one claimed it. And we, we tried very hard to scream from every rooftop possible that we had this bird and no one ever claimed it. Uh, we talked to our vet about it and they said it was a fairly telltale situation of someone just kind of threw it out a window because they didn't want it anymore um there was other reasons why they thought that and it did make sense but i'm not going to go into all of that um and now we just have third bird uh but third bird is female bird and other two birds are boy birds so birds cannot mix uh i don't know how they can necessarily tell they look pretty similar to me but uh the second there is a female bird in vicinity of the boybirds it is party time they are very excited and go a little nuts uh so it is very obvious that we can't necessarily let them all kind of hang out together too much um so that adds some complications and whatnot but yeah anyways long story short birds doing all right birds are good cool follow-up luke question oh you mentioned earlier that you're building out a home lab What kind of things are you thinking of setting up?

3:11:58Oh, dude, I want to do lots of stuff. A decent amount of this is just like, I feel like it is hyper overdue. I want to know more about the people on, about what the people on my teams do. So I, some of the goal is to use similar things that we use here. So I can get more experience and have a better understanding of what they're talking about. and the issues that they run into and just things like that.

3:12:29Good. Keep going. Just making adjustments. Why? I don't know. Just like it better this way. Perfectly level? No. One's not perfectly level though. That's fine. Just relax. I like it this way. Stop it. That still works. That's fine. They're both crossing. Yeah. They both have a high point. Yeah. That's very nice. I want to get a Plex server up to live stream home videos to my family. Sure. Yeah. I also, I'd like to do some local LLM stuff. There's just a lot of things that I want to do that I feel like I'm very overdue on really actually pushing. Yeah. as a student and IT worker at a university I've noticed that the newer generation is less tech literate do you think the oversimplification and hand holding has contributed to this issue hold on I've got something yeah I've got something to share with you guys this is a great meme I came across and it's not like Yvonne.

3:13:44Phone or tablets? Because I heard like, what's a file system for a lot of people? Because they're mostly interacting with like a phone or a tablet or you know, an application. They don't have to know what a, what's a D drive or a C drive or like what's a network share? Okay, Dan, I just sent you like my favorite meme from the last week. I want a YouTube app on my computer. Shut up, pug boy. Get out.

3:14:19I actually do. Why? I wish less things were just browser. Here's Linus's favorite meme. Favorite meme of the week. I'm training a Zoomer kid to use the computer at work. And it's exactly like training a boomer. there is exactly one generation that can rotate a pdf and there will never be another the knowledge dies with us so good it's kind of true go jellyfin and swim upstream yeah i i don't know if i want to do plex or not but i want to do like you know video home video distribution to multi houses yeah

3:15:02hi wanda dlo hold on i just want to jump in and say generally speaking our staff has actually been really good like we have younger people on staff oh and there are absolutely zoomers and younger people who are very capable technically i just want to throw that out there that these generalizations are just generalizations they're not universally applicable okay carry on very good hi wanda dll i'm a high school chemistry teacher the green brothers have a bit of an empire with youtube education content via crash course do you have connections with them would love education focused collab i don't think i've ever i don't think i've ever met either of the green brothers I admire them from a distance.

3:15:56One of the ways that I can find out is just checking my inbox. No, I have never corresponded with either of the Green brothers.

3:16:16downer maybe i should try and do that you never know unless you try right

3:16:25thanks luke yeah very very deep yeah sure bud very deep comment yes hi dll question for luke as a software developer i come across other developers who see errors as something only others can solve any tips on how to encourage them to see errors as opportunities to learn this was a little bit confusing any tips on no no i i understand i understand it too okay go ahead then uh that's a tough one some people i don't know if you'll ever really be able to get that through to them um i think if you are leading or managing those people I think you make it very clear that this is a required part of career progression.

3:17:08But to a certain degree, that's just a performance issue. Some people will never resolve that and it will make their careers halt in progression. And that's sometimes where people just sort of stop is because they can't get their minds around that. It's a very difficult thing to have as a programmer. I find a lot of people that no that train of thought doesn't make a ton of sense I think like solving errors is a natural constant state of a software developer so if they can't do that they're going to be hyper limited in their career and if you try to communicate to them that to them hopefully they absorb it and grow I've seen this happen with people it's not that it doesn't happen I have just also for sure seen it not happen with people and you can't save them all so do what you can but yeah I think I would I would tie it pretty directly into like look you will stop progressing if you don't figure this out so you have to figure this out apparently John Green said that I gave him a computer recommendation I don't remember that but I recommend computers to a lot of people so that would be a little embarrassing it's like oh yeah you like built a server for santa claus you don't remember like oh yeah sorry just slipped my mind how do you forget something like that i don't know that's a that's a big you'd have to be more specific moment yeah and like the villain is like or the the protagonist in a movie or whatever is like you killed my dad and the villains like you'd have to be more specific yeah yeah you recommended a computer you'd have to be a lot more specific yeah so is are there programmers that just program and then don't fix it when it doesn't work is that what this is talking about you've used a lot of software and you're like dan do you think there are programmers who just program and don't make sure it works that's why i was a little confused because it's like okay we have errors it like doesn't compile well you just haven't done your job then no it's like if they're struggling to accomplish something they'll just give up oh yeah that's so much worse i think that's what i think i think that's the crux this is how i'm interpreting it um so they'll be like i mean problem hard and then they'll try to just go to someone else and i mean sometimes that might make sense uh we we try to do a thing where like you should try to grind on it for a bit and try to solve it yourself but at a certain point you should seek help because you're just kind of wasting time you heard it here first at a certain point you should seek help luke 2026 the extremely deep but but you should try to solve it yourself not wrong words do you see a need for wireless tvs that they had at ces wires are still needed regardless of what they say well you answered your own question didn't you this is kind of like um okay this is my favorite thing hold on i'm just gonna search for we're gonna go we're gonna go on a little journey together are they like battery i'm gonna search for projector what the hell are the bigly brothers hey anyway that doesn't matter the point is we're gonna go to like a mainstream type of projector brand oh seriously okay let's let's let's go let's pick on let's pick on lg let's pick on lg cinebeam okay let's pick on lg cinebeam so i'm gonna i'm gonna click shut up you ain't gonna click oh my god i'm gonna try to use your prompts stupid website okay let's click this thing wow what a great design that i'd love to look at that wow this is such a oh wow this is a shockingly honest deployment except it also isn't because where's this cord going where's this going this is your couch is there like you you're completely ignoring the fact look at this this it's not plugged in in any of these situations it's also not one of those times in a position that you would actually want minimal cue design right but it's all bullshit unless it actually runs wirelessly which as far as i can tell it doesn't there are so many they hide the cable behind a coffee machine?

3:21:48A coffee thing? I don't remember. What are you talking about? Far right. That? Oh, yeah. Behind what? Is that like a battery bank? Yes, so it can be used with a battery bank. But they don't even show the cable going into the battery bank. But like, where is the... Where is the projector in this shot? That's awesome. This is clearly just complete horse shit. Oh, yeah. That's amazing. And so I have a very similar issue with whatever you were talking about. Yes, wireless TVs. I have a very similar issue with wireless TVs as I have with this type of projector marketing. It's all fantasy. It's all pie in the sky.

3:22:28What if everything was wireless? Well, it isn't f***ing wireless. It's not wireless. So what are you even talking about? If I want to play on my Switch, well, I'm going to have to have power for my TV because I definitely need that. I'm going to have to have HDMI into some box somewhere because as far as I can tell, the Switch doesn't have magical la-la wireless display transmission. I'm going to have to have power for my Switch. So I'm going to need a media console anyway. So I might as well just have one then.

3:23:02Yeah. So basically they're stupid. And I think they're stupid. I do Glan and Dynas. I could totally see myself putting one in the tech house, though, just because we can. Yeah, drill some walls. Drill some walls. Heck yeah. Hi, Duke Lanodinus. Is there any tech you'd like to see added to modern car suites? Shout out to my wife for letting me do some gear shopping. Honestly? Buttons. Some dials. I don't even, you know what? Some switches. More piano black. I'm about to have the hottest of takes. Don't need them. We need less, actually. My car is almost all glass and I love it. Oh, I know. I don't like it.

3:23:46I don't. It's interesting to me because I hear a lot of people talk about how much, how desperately they need their climate controls, for instance, to be physical switches. And I'm sitting here going, why are you touching it? The fan is set to auto. You set a temperature you're comfortable with and then you never touch it again. like you also have discussed how your significant other will change the things well then you have to change them back yes but so just because you think her opinion is wrong does not change the fact that you still have to interact with it it's so little though it's like i just i'm just saying the the point doesn't really land that's fair that's fair but it also just it's still that i don't know man i don't know what to tell you it just doesn't bother me at all i was doing it on a touch screen rivian not that long ago and had to interact with the touchscreen and it just felt like the dumbest thing in the world why are these not buttons i i don't know i don't think it needs to all be buttons again i think you can have some stuff in the menus but like all i would want to see is just sort of more more thoughtful i'd love to see android auto and carplay be more reliable that's something um i'd i'd basically i would just love like a minor feature and bug fix pass on my car and otherwise it'd be perfect so for example i have a couple of programmable buttons i have one on my steering wheel and i have one that's like up on the dash here if both of those supported alternate functions with long press and double press i would be happy as a pig and that'd be pretty sweet um if my if my android auto didn't occasionally just like fail to bluetooth pair and have my audio not work or if um if depending on the the audio source on my phone the volume wasn't either way lower or way higher like if i could just send porsche uh a list of all those sort of various minor tiny insignificant inconveniences experiences uh like the fact that i can't have it just automatically start up the car in the driving profile that i always use i always drive in sport mode so why do i have to turn this dial every single time i get into my car it's stupid just don't do that um then i would just i would just love it i would be i'd be i wouldn't want anything else i honestly just don't want my car to really do anything other than when i press this thing it goes that way and when i press this thing it stops going that way except when i also press a different thing and then it's sometimes it goes that way yeah when you do what sorry thing when i press this thing sometimes it goes when you press a different thing can you do that one again do you press a different thing yeah i i don't i don't even know what i did okay don't worry about it uh yeah yeah i want a dumber car and i want to pay a lot less for it well you're never going to get that second thing so no it's a thing i mean well the slate looks pretty cool yeah yeah and there's like a bunch of them globally like toyota has some truck that is not sold in north america but it's like very affordable well that's what i'm talking about though like but it's not sold in north america because of north american regulations on like lane assistance stuff really yeah it has nothing to do with toyota's decision making interesting yeah there's like a certain reason with with certain safety laws that a bunch of cheaper cars globally are not allowed to come to north america it's so irritating yeah especially because like an insane amount of cars on the road don't have these things yeah because they're just older and like dude oh my god driving emma's car the lane assist is dangerous oh it can be like it's not okay and not just a lane assist but the emergency automatic braking oh my god i've had at least three times that my taikan has almost killed me because i decided to go to turn left and it was like there's a car in front of you i'm gonna stop and it stopped in oncoming traffic.

3:27:51And in a really jarring, startling, I need a second to figure out what the heck is going on and why my car isn't moving. Foot plant. And I need to hit it again to get out of the way. Absolutely insane. I don't want these things. I understand they might make it better for some drivers out there somewhere. I think a lot of people on the road, it's not helpful for. And I know a lot of people just turn them off. So like - And my lane keep, there's a particular spot between smash champs and my house that it's just like right and just tries to rip me out of the lane yeah it's pretty food i don't want any of this stuff i don't want any of it at all so like the fact that i'm not allowed to buy one in north america that doesn't have those things it's crazy i don't i don't like that i would love this what is the um super cheap i'm hoping this brings it up uh toyota truck sold outside america can i find it is it the hilux it's a people in chat said i think it's a hilux champ i think that's the right hilux champ nice yeah this thing they have a bunch of different versions of it um it looks a little you know like a lego truck um but you can configure it in a bunch of different ways and stuff and look ten thousand dollar pickup wow bruh like let me buy the cheap truck thing that people do crazy stuff with whatever that's super cool it's a ten thousand dollar platform that has an engine in it and you can drive around cool i there's there's a bunch of these things it's not just this toyota truck there's other variants as well but it's just like the cheaper cars aren't allowed to come here

3:29:36frustrating more tv focused questions howdy when with tvs being so competitive nearing a race to the bottom economics creating millions of pounds of e-waste should we have a minimum price floor on certain electronics is quality the winner generally speaking i'm pretty pro free market a regulated free market that prevents monopolists from taking advantage of their position but I don't think you're ever going to get me advocating for a minimum price on something. I think that my job is educating people to make sure that they buy something that is going to meet their needs for an extended period of time in hopes that there will be less waste overall if people consume, because they will consume, but consume the right things so that there's less trial and error involved.

3:30:33And I just don't see how you'd implement this. It's not like it's a terrible idea on the surface of it, right? I'd say you'd be better off creating a warranty minimum. So a minimum amount of time that they have to support the product to to incentivize them to do the right things rather than regulating it directly. I like that. That should also spread to more products. The more I'm learning about washer, dryer, refrigerator. I know, right? Dishwasher, all that kind of stuff. Like, holy crap, dude. The sheer amount of waste in not even the electronics portion, but just the metals and everything else that is involved with this that people just have to toss out because it's not worth repairing is crazy.

3:31:18And the fact that we're getting into three to five year life cycles, like I'm used to people just not replacing appliances ever. Yeah. It comes with the house. Yeah. like why how how is this turning into something that i'm going to replace more often than my tv we were going to get new appliances when we moved into our current place and the guy who came in looked at one of them when we were what was it the motor and the washer went or something like that and basically yvonne was like oh yeah i don't know if we want to bother with repairing it and the guy's like yes you do i will put a new motor in this and this will last for another 25 five years if you went and you bought a new one you would be replacing it in five to ten yeah and like i i so like i said earlier in the show my fridge is going so i was like all right time to do some research because this is a pastime um what can i buy what should i get all of everything like there was literally i can't remember the exact comment oh i could probably find it on my phone but there's there was like an appliance guy basically saying like the world is ending and i hate everything because like he can't recommend something that's actually good yeah my um i forget what brand it is but my mom bought a new fridge from someone that like for me growing up was like oh that's a reputable appliance brand and they've been out i think half a dozen times to to fix it and she's been like at what point is this a lemon you guys have spent more than the cost of this fridge coming here and fixing it over and over and over again are you ready to acknowledge that it is broken and that you're not able to fix it and it's just like the whole thing is so grossly inefficient the the comment was appliance tech here it's all just it's all plastic disposable crap life is pointless and the planet is doomed because of the waste we produce refrigerators within your budget are not buy it for life and it was like oh so then i was like okay well this person's listed budget on this particular reddit thread didn't seem super high can you spend more than this and get something that's not just portable e-waste apparently yeah nice but is it Like commercial, basically?

3:33:38You're talking Sub-Zero and stuff, which I've only like... Sub-Zero? ...heard of. Like Sub-Zero wins? I don't know if I've ever actually even opened a Sub-Zero fridge myself, but I've heard of them. There's another one that I don't remember the name of it, but there's another brand as well. You do have to be careful sometimes because not... Like manufacturers just make for all the manufacturers. Yeah. I mean if you want like commercial commercial but those go a bit of money no listed price very interesting sort of like you know there's like qualifies for a luxury kitchen savings event required accessories excuse me I have to buy my own drawers for a thousand dollars each well what if you wanted it in stainless steel by now with live chat You need to discuss your purchase with...

3:34:35Flush inset door panel with tubular handle. Tubular, man. $1 ,700. Where's the... How do I... Wait, is there no price? No, you have to buy now with live chat. You have to discuss your purchase. What the hell is Fisher and PayCal? I don't know. Never heard of that. What? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Buy now with live chat. But where's the starting price? Does it not have one?

3:35:03uh i can't remember the name of the other brand that i found but it was there's this wolf for stoves i know are pretty typical like a high-end install i don't know if they're actually worth it how much does a sub-zero fridge oh what yep oh my god but there's a ton of people on reddit saying that these things last 25 years and are highly repairable yeah that's like how much a fridge should cost for how insanely complicated some of them can be the other brand is just called true those were the two that people were talking about true and sub-zero okay so do you spend no 11 to 20 000 on a fridge or do you replace the same genuine piece of garbage and fill landfills with you know a thousand dollar bridges i'm guessing i don't know what the prices i haven't actually especially because when you sell your house with that sub-zero fridge the new buyer will not assign any additional value to it so you're basically just paying for yourself to use it most people are not going to be in a position in their life where they can afford a 25 000 fridge and have enough of their life left that they're going to use it for the whole time and that's just the cold hard truth now for some cold hard truth about b580s being available at msrp they're not do it on the lab site you freaking nerd how am i supposed to do that do you have the gun year intel arc didn't think so yeah you have this one right here it's from new way oh it's a versioning thing cool so um don't worry we're gonna we're working on that and it's going to be awesome.

3:36:46I don't know if we're working on that. Someday. Someday we will. So lowest price in 30 days. Okay, whatever. You know,$2.99. It's not that bad. It's not great. And this one doesn't have the holiday bundle for some reason. So I don't know what's up with that. Maybe contact Newegg before you buy this one. LMG.GG slash Newegg, right? Do I remember this now? The Asrock Steel Legend is, it was$2.59 for a long time. and it's$2.99 now, but the Intel Holiday Bundle is still there. So free Battlefield 6. I think you could say with a straight face, if you wanted Battlefield 6 and you get Battlefield 6 with it, it's pretty close to MSRP, but it's not what it was just a couple weeks ago where you could get it for$2.49,$2.59 and get the Holiday Bundle, which was an outstanding value.

3:37:38Man, what about 5070 TIs? Are they just dead? Ed, are we cooked? What's up? Dad's in the chat. Oh, hey. He said, take it with you when you move. Sup, Rob. Nice. Assuming your new kitchen layout accommodates the exact width of fridge that we happen to. And depth. Yeah. Hacksaw. We ended up having one option for oven when we needed to get a new oven for our kitchen at our place because we didn't want to completely redo all the cabinets and everything. And they weren't wood. They were like some kind of like Mela, whatever, whatever they, they were like that kind of plastic covered thing. And so they're not like easily modifiable and it was like a top bottom stack one.

3:38:22So there was, yeah, there was one option. So a lot of the time it's, it's dictated by like the space you're in more than the, oh man, 5070 Ti is a really expensive. If you're continuing to comment, I can't tell because my computer is restarting because nice security or something. Nice. it's your dad's username liquidus yeah okay that makes sense

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3:38:55take it with you when you move i would make it work well we know you would but i'm not as handy he t we yeah he would all right dan hit me okay last time i got for you today hey wam.ll were any of you impacted by the telecom bubble and the fall of nortel loving the mechanical pencil oh i'm so glad you like it um no i was i was man i was still yeah i was still a young boy that's not us when did nortel fall the history of all that is super interesting yeah i was 14 so i wasn't really like i wasn't really like work forcing it up yet sleeping on those investments yeah you should have bought a house and invested in Nortel very temporarily and then sold right before the crash right right right right right right yeah hindsight thank you captain captain hindsight that's really appreciated 2009 um and now it's time to put this WAN show in hindsight thanks for watching we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye

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