Discord Threw It All Away - WAN Show February 13, 2026

32:25So my desktop upstairs, my desktop downstairs, my work laptop, my handheld, and then I think there was one other one. I was like, I'm doing it. Luke, I'm going for it this time. Yeah. I'm not going to touch Windows for a month. Do we help each other at all?

32:50interesting no like how like

32:55because okay so here hold on let me put it this way i think i agree with you but i have some comments because i i would think you know a very community driven initiative like linux right you would think well yeah community is why not your immediate It's part of it, right? Yeah. And if your community was like Linux noobs, who are also on this journey at the same time, I would say that that is kosher. I'd say that that's fair game. But I don't think some of the other folks in our cohort would really qualify as a Linux noob. And then where do we draw the line? Like, am I allowed to call Wendell? you know i i feel like for me i i kind of still want to be me i'm not gonna completely pretend to not know anything because this is not my first kick at the can but i'm but i'm not gonna just leverage the resources that i have like like i i think elijah has a line in the script that's something along the lines of like not everyone has torvalds on speed dial right like you can't we can't we can't just we can't be us either it has to be somewhere in the middle elijah just trying to flex as per usual.

34:08Yeah, okay. Fair enough. I mean, it's a pretty cool flex. Yeah. Yeah.

34:16I'm not sure how this is going to go for me. I think yours is going to be kind of boring. It might be. Because you're like dailying it already. Yeah. But like it also hasn't truly been daily because that laptop has had so many hardware issues that has been bouncing back and forth between getting serviced and coming back to me that sometimes I end up back on Windows for a while and then I go back to running various versions of Linux. Linux has genuinely never been the problem and I have verified multiple times that it happens. I have two drives in the machine now, so I have one for Windows and one for Linux.

34:56Right. Well, not realistically. I have one that is split in half for Windows and Linux and then I have a storage drive, but whatever. You know what I mean? And yeah, they want me to like try to verify that it's working under Windows because they just don't believe me. So it's like, okay, I'm running Windows and I ran into the same problem again. Thank you. Please fix. And then after I have it for like a little while, if I know they're going to repair it, I go back to Linux anyways, because that's what I want to be using. But I've been like verifying the issues within Windows. And it's a problem in both.

35:31It's definitely like hardware issues with the laptop. It has nothing to do with software at all. But so, yeah, I've been bouncing back and forth, so I can't quite say that I've been daily it, but I have been fairly actively using it for a long time now and feel pretty comfortable in it. But I'm also not really gaming much on that laptop. I find personally, and I'm genuinely not intentionally calling anyone out here, but even a video that I publicly said I liked a lot and I do like a lot. whenever you see creators do like linux iSwitch challenges it's always framed as a challenge and that always involves doing things that are particularly difficult in linux i don't even okay this stood out hold on let me finish talking this stood out to me because when i switched linux on my laptop i just did what i always do and it was literally never a problem all right ever but everyone always has like a thing and it's very common that it's creators and creators always have to edit videos and this is like a known problem is it like premiere doesn't work very well right so they run into like the editing videos problem and they're like oops it doesn't work and it's like yeah okay well that was predictable because all the other iSwitch videos also tried to edit videos and also had problems so it's like uh yeah i don't know Let the record show that that right there was definitive proof that anything can happen once.

36:55Luke did, in fact, get to finish talking.

37:00But I'm still going to jump in now that you're done and defend myself. I don't think anything that we tried to do as part of our last I switched was unrealistic or unreasonable. Because I wasn't trying to edit video. I don't edit video. Our last I switch was pretty successful though. I mean, I had a lot of issues. I'm not necessarily saying I had a problem with our previous run at it. Oh, okay. I just like in general, I think the...

37:36I don't know. I would implore the audience to pay attention to the things that, you know, we, the three of us, or anyone else has actual problems with instead of just their conclusion being that there was some problems with what they were doing. Like if they play, you know, if you play games that are Proton Platinum and you just run some basic applications and spend the vast majority of your time in a web browser, like an enormously massive percentage of users, then in a lot of cases, you know what? I actually won't say this as a definitive statement. I suspect in a lot of cases, it's going to be totally fine, but we'll see how it ends up going.

38:20Yeah. All right. I can't see Dan's saying there's a negative connotation to challenge that suggests there was a problem. That's part of it, but I think it's, that is definitely part of it, but I also think people put themselves in situations intentionally. Sometimes it's like, it's like the whole throwing for content thing, right? Um, you, you, you're put yourself in situations intentionally that will cause contention and will cause issues because that is insanely more interesting on camera. If I went to explain my laptop experience with Linux on camera, I would sit down and be like, it was fine.

38:58I used a web browser and it was, it was fine. It was fine. I didn't have any problems. I had to Google how to update it. And then I went, okay, that's how, and then I updated it and it was fine. like no one's going to care about that so so you have to like do something like they're literally promoting linux by putting it in difficult situations that it's not going to do well at because then at least more people will see the video and you might get more people to adopt it like i'm not going after the creators here to be clear it's just it's a complicated situation i just want people to understand that like just because it has problems doing certain things doesn't mean that it will always for one and for two doesn't mean that you're necessarily doing that?

39:38Like how many people in the audience are actually editing videos? Okay, that is such a hilarious thing for you to bring up because so much of how we make decisions is totally not based on what we actually do. Dude, we know about that from GPU review videos that we make. Oh yeah. And look at Apple's marketing. How laser focused are they on, you know, on how creative you can be with your iPhone. And there is absolutely a subset of the users that are gonna be the next filmmakers, the next generation of filmmakers. But there's also a lot of users that are just sitting in Starbucks, browsing Facebook on their MacBook.

40:26And that's all they were realistically ever gonna do on it. And they could have had a Chromebook and they would have had quite literally exactly the same user experience. Yeah, my phone is largely sold on its, camera and 90 % of the photos that I take are of my parking spots. Like the most Luke thing you've said, at least today.

40:48I was reviewing my photos from New York and it's, it's, it's where I parked my car at the airport. And that's like it.

41:02It's funny because there's certain things that you do and there's certain places that you go you take a lot of pictures that is true that is like when you went to that and that get away from it all place you went in taiwan yeah you took a ton of pictures there like you were you were behaving like uh like a relative i haven't seen in a couple years how many pictures you wanted to show me like it was crazy uh yeah that's true but other than that like like you almost seem weirded out if i pull out a phone at dinner and i'm like let's take a picture

41:35to what end yeah for some reason my brain's like people or building no leaf yes yeah sure rock yes i don't know parking spot triple yes yeah yeah yeah for sure every time

41:55will you actually use this reference someone said bird yeah that's true i have become that guy you're such a bird dad i don't know how it happened i often take photos of birds while my thumbs up is in the frame as well i'll be like yeah good bird if if i had told you when i met you that you were going to turn into a weird bird dad you'd have been like no that's stupid birds are stupid yeah like a hundred percent yeah yeah yeah there are ways you've been like they're a waste of time and money yeah i was like a dog honestly yeah yeah unbelievable that's still not Not necessarily untrue, but I do like them a lot.

42:35All right. On the subject of taking pictures, Ring. Ring is a company that is owned by Amazon and it takes a lot of pictures of your front porch and paid big bucks for a Super Bowl ad to celebrate or announce or whatever. Whatever they were trying to do is not what ultimately happened, but to promote their search party tool, which allows anyone in the U.S., ring owner or not, to launch a search for their lost dogs using all the ring cameras in their neighborhood. Now, hold on a second. Just give me one second here. I can see the look on your face. You know I can see you even though I'm remote, right?

43:23Just contain yourself.

43:29As someone who has lost multiple pets and who cried multiple tears multiple times over losing multiple pets, I understand the sales pitch here. I get it. however if you're in that moment if if if 10 minutes ago you recognized that your pet is gone in that moment a lot of people are going to want this thing even if right now they don't not everyone some people will hold true to their their you know their line however however this launch coming just a few months after Ring announced a partnership with law enforcement surveillance provider Flock Safety was received with an immediate and completely predictable response from just everyone, with the EFF calling the feature a surveillance nightmare.

44:32Look, if Amazon and Ring was a company that I had any kind of trust in whatsoever, right? Any kind of trust in whatsoever. And they announced this like lost dog feature. And it was a core part of the design of the product that all of the image recognition was done locally on device. and that was opt-in and, and, and, and. It's something that as someone, as a pet dad who has lost a pet that got out, it's something that I would crave, you know, that I could want. But the last two companies that I could have any interest in administering this are going to be Amazon and Flock. dude flock has has has demonstrated sort of irrevocably yes that's the basically they could never earn my trust back the way that they have handled security and data privacy man flock and persona aka peter teal uh getting into consumer stuff is not fun that that is like a primary thread of today's show is not cool it is worth noting by the way that they apparently uh ditched the flock partnership but like okay doesn't that just tell us everything we need to know about them how they choose their partners like i don't want to i don't want to be i don't want to be like that but you know if someone is if someone say for example was married to someone abhorrent um and you know doesn't seem to have a problem with it you know like what what's her what's her nuts let's let's use a historical example, Eva Braun, or Eva Braun, excuse me.

46:53Okay. That's Hitler's wife. Oh, like, does it not tell us anything about her, just how she chooses her partner? It's like, yeah, at some point she cut ties with Hitler or whatever. Well, they kind of both cut ties with the world at the same time, but that's a whole separate thing. You know, like just because she divorces the guy does that not still tell us a fair bit about him especially if the circumstances of cutting ties were because of public pressure like doesn't that just doesn't it still tell us a lot about the kind of decision making process that's going on behind closed doors is this called is this a thing so uh zosis or whatever says godwin's law like is this just like birds of a feather kind of thing what's godwin's law uh i'm no i'm not reading the ai overview is an internet adage asserting as an online discussion grows longer the probability of a comparison involving nazis or hitler approaches no okay very funny i actually thought this was a pretty good comparison linus i will give you that thank you i i just for other people that might be confused i was like i didn't think they did yeah they did not divorce i understand he's doing the comparison here because yeah yeah uh he's doing the comparison to divorce here because amazon and flock are no longer working together um but yeah and you know what like avon fox in floatplane chat points out okay what if this person was manipulated or in a relationship due to pressure or whatever yeah okay yes that's fair it's not a perfect analogy please The point is just that Amazon as a company clearly chose to partner with Flock.

48:39Okay? If Linus Media Group chose to partner with Flock and then you guys got super mad about it, predictably, and then I said, oh, wow. Yeah, wow. That, oh, you guys are so right. We should have never done that. We're not doing that anymore. Wow, I'm so glad that, come on. that's happened you know has it not and we're not uh okay flock okay i don't think you could draw a direct parallel to anything like maybe not someone as bad as flock but we've worked with we've worked with brands someone just pointed out anchor we've worked with brands uh someone said raid shadow legends uh we've worked with brands that we've then been like you know what maybe you guys are right let's pull back on that uh but flock literally like no i agree the scale is not the same but i'm just saying like this this can't be extrapolated fully so you can absolutely make mistakes but in this case i'm talking about partnering with again an abhorrent organization that has complete and utter disregard for user security and privacy and some in in some cases like rage shadow legends never led to anyone being you know falsely harassed by law enforcement or you know raid shadow legends never got anyone never had anyone have a gun pointed at them because of it like let's be real here guys i i think these these two birds of the same feather whatever i'm trying to use the flock analogy um i don't know how much they mind it it do be amazon after all ftc this is a older 2023 but ftc and doj charge amazon with violating children's privacy law by keeping kids Alexa voice recordings forever and undermining parents deletion requests.

50:36Amazon just do be Amazon at the end of the day. Maybe they're kind of chill with with Flock. And the other thing for raising that. And the other thing is that it has to do with like our knowledge at the time. If we announced a partnership with Flock today, when you've heard me on stream talking about the horrible things that they've done, and making it clear how horrible I think they are. Like, no, there's no precedent in LMG's history for anything like that. Like, people are bringing up, people are kind of trying to sort of poke holes in it here. Someone brought up the honey thing. It's like, yeah, but we didn't know any of that.

51:13That's a huge... We stopped working with them when we did. And we stopped working with them as soon as we did. Like, that's the difference. Whereas when you announce a partnership with someone that you know is horrible, then it's a completely different situation. april fool's video idea good lord what what is we're partnering with flock yeah new new ltd store webcams

51:42oh my god that's how we can use twitter new twitter cams powered by flock

51:54ixafin724 on floatplane chat says do not do that you will never recover and you're so right the number of times funny though dude the number of times i run up against people who legitimately believe horrible things about me because i joked about it or because i said it in an april fool's video is distressingly high like this is the reason that actors like Dwayne Johnson have no lose clauses in their contracts because people will actually watch someone be acting on TV and be stupid enough to think that they're weak because they lost a fight in a movie that they were scripted to lose which I think you know I think you can be comfortable just not caring about of those people's opinions though.

52:45I think that can be okay. Luke, I wish... I think you can rise above. I wish that this was an isolated, small, tiny minority, Luke. I wish it was. I think you dig pretty hard to find comments sometimes. I think you can't help yourself.

53:04I think that that can be true at the same time as it can be true that it is a distressingly large number. Sure.

53:15Maybe I should just retire to a potato farm.

53:21Yeah. Dan and I had a fancy dinner last night. My favorite part was a potato. They're pretty good. Potatoes are pretty good. It's hard to knock a good potato, dude. Dude, a baked potato with some butter and some salt and pepper. You get a bit of sour cream on there. You get a little bit of green onion. Now we're talking, dude. dude. Are you salivating, brother? Oh, yeah. Potato in almost any form, though. Warm potato? Great. Great. Cold potato? Warm potato? Fantastic. Okay, hear me out. Hear me out. Okay. Nugget potatoes? Cold. Nugget potatoes cold can be pretty good. Yeah, alright. Potatoes just win.

54:04Potatoes are great. And not every french fry is good cold, but there are good cold french fries. I'll die on that hill. I think they're better warm. I can't think of a potato that's... Even nugget potatoes, I think they're better warm. Potatoes gain a lot from heat. I don't know why, but I think they gain a lot from heat. I will give you nugget potatoes at room temperature are probably the best form of potatoes at room temperature in my opinion. I still think they're better warm. I once accidentally potato show I ate so many room temperature nugget potatoes that I threw up. I wasn't sick. I just spontaneously was like, my stomach is at capacity.

54:53I was reading. I was like reading and just eating potatoes. How? Yeah, and I just threw up. It wasn't the sickest, most foul throw up ever or anything. It wasn't even that gross. because I had just eaten all of it. And it was just, it was basically just potato. Like it was probably still edible. Oh, gross.

55:23I love, I love this like way too perfect image I have in my head of this situation of you just being way too laser focused in on what you're doing to not realize that you've eaten like an entire massive, it was a massive bowl size of your entire torso thing of potatoes your body's just like bro get it out of here yeah adhd turned up to 11 someone pointed out yeah yeah that's that's all i'm all i'm picturing is just like wait i must keep reading and also this hand is just doing this motion for whatever reason uh that's great um anyways back to evil things um we don't unfortunately get to keep talking about potatoes um yeah that i mean that sucks a lot uh there are alternatives again just like in the discord thing there are there are alternatives in this range of products the alternative ends up being more expensive usually uh but you can't ubiquity i was just gonna do it there are also other alternatives that aren't ubiquity but in our kind of spaces, a lot of people do be liking Ubiquiti.

56:32Okay, hear me out. TrueSpec security camera. Partnered with Flock. Oh, gosh. Yeah, no, but it's effectively going to end up being self-hosting and through something like Ubiquiti or a variety of other products. It's got to be self-hosted. You can do a self-hosted solution. You can have your own cameras. You could share them with family members. You could remotely access them when you're away from home. You could use a lot of the same features. You can literally do the press the doorbell, have a video call thing just without Amazon watching your every move. It is possible. It'll cost more, but it's also fun.

57:17If there was a company that you didn't have to feel like you were helping move us towards a dystopian future. It would be Crater Warehouse. We have a lot to talk about this week. And the big one is the one that Luke is wearing. Dude, it's kind of covered right now. So maybe if you can give them a better look at it, that thing is so flipping cool. This is it. This is the lawsuit hoodie. This hoodie exists because three years of unanswered collab emails felt like a sign to stop waiting for permission and just make this white on black hoodie that we wanted to make anyway. It's made from the same heavyweight 100 % cotton as the WAN hoodie, so it feels thick, premium, and built for daily wear with YKK zippered pockets to keep your things secure.

58:12The sleeves feature bold, fully embroidered, controller-inspired graphics, and there's a small Easter egg on the care label that is optional to read but highly recommended you want to bring up the website okay yeah don't don't worry about it don't worry about it let's see if people can figure out let's see if people can figure out what it was inspired by i will not confirm or deny because well i don't actually oh is it in there it's literally the first line of the description oh no that's that's not oh wait oh yeah okay Well, okay, never mind. We apparently went full not that subtle Literally the brand name is like the third word

59:00Okay Cool. Well, okay. We weren't actually concerned about dbrand in terms of like the look What we really wanted to do was a hoodie that looked like a thing And then in order to make sure that the iconography wasn't going to cause any problems for us we partnered with dbrand to use their iconography it's a pretty cool product do you want to scroll through some of the uh some of the other pictures yeah i love the charade ones i think this is charade yeah yeah he's got the the helmet on these look sick the dbrand robot robot helmet i don't know where they found to do these photos but these are awesome i am continually impressed with the photos that are coming out of this team this is oh good i was hoping there's gonna be a good picture of this the zipper looks sick it's like blacked out and it has this like copper inner core it looks so dope i don't think i've seen that before um i think it's yeah it's all of them even the smaller zippers that are on your pockets have this like copper inner design i think that looks it's uh it seems to be like a spring to kind of like keep it held down is that what the actual copper bit is doing i think so guys that's nice I don't know yeah but apparently the last picture is the best one there's a lot of pictures for this I think they really liked the set that they were at because there is quite a few but we will keep going through them there's so many pictures there is a ton of photos nice that's a bit of a hint puisque

1:00:43dude i i i kind of love this hoodie when we got our first sample of it i was sick this is hard amazing that's dope yeah I don't know where the heck they were that's sick that's sick that's probably my favorite one hell yeah it's um here do you want to throw us back on the line yeah those are cool it's one of those things I think this is when our team is like ah see I don't want to take anything away from the other things we do but this is the stuff that gets me uniquely excited like this is when i think the team is at their absolute best when they create something that is so sort of gamer culture like internet culture referencing and yet is so flipping wearable and if somebody doesn't know what it is if they don't know that it looks kind of like a you know game console or if they don't recognize those icons they're just like wow cool hoodie but if they do you know it's the if you know you know and i just i love stuff like that they absolutely yeah yeah marchable they hit it completely out of the park on this design taking Again, I don't want to...

1:02:13Whatever. Lawsuit hoodie. Go check it out. lmg.gg slash lawsuit hoodie. Flipping cool. Some quick housekeeping from the warehouse. It turns out when you keep making really cool new stuff, you eventually run out of space. So we're running three sales right now to clear some space and reset for what's next. There's the last chance sale at lmg.gg slash last chance. So this is the final call on some older stock that is not coming back once it's gone. At least we have no plans to bring it back. So no restocks, no reruns, no, oh, I'll just grab it later. This is later, get it now. Only the bundles are end of life, okay?

1:02:54Commuter bag, OG backpack, and tech sack will live on, but these bundles are going away. This is last chance. We also have our end of season apparel sale, clearing out some seasonal styles to make room for new designs that are already in the works. Same quality and fit. Just end of season pricing while supplies last. That's lmg.gg slash end of season. And finally, we have a buy more, save more for all blank t-shirts. One blank t-shirt is just not enough. They're comfortable, easy to wear, and having a few in the rotation just makes sense. Stock up on blanks at lmg.gg slash blank tees. T-E-E-S.

1:03:30That's the one. Maybe, Dan, do you want to throw all these links in the description in the various chats if that kind of works for you. Yee. All right. Sick. Sick. Luke, want to pick a topic for us? Sure, no problem. YouTube React videos could face lawsuits, but not for the reason that you... No, we're supposed to explain our checkout messages. You told me to pick a topic. Yeah, I know. I screwed up. You told me to pick a topic. I know, but I introduced all the products, and now that's when we're supposed to do checkout messages, right? All right. Okay. Wait, where's the thing? Wait, is it not in here anymore?

1:04:09Okay, I'm just going to have to wing this. Checkout messages are the way to interact with the WAN show. We don't want you to throw money at your screen. Or we do want you to throw money at your screen, but we don't want you to just throw money at your screen for acknowledgement. We want you to throw money at your screen and get... Oh, yeah, checkout messages. Comms. Yeah, okay. Chat's gaslighting me. we want you to get high quality merchandise in return so if you want to send a message into the show where producer dan are you guys gonna throw him up there yay there he is nice where producer dan will um just post it like that one that's up at the top of the frame right now or he'll reply to it or he will curate it for me and luke to respond to then all you got to do is head to the checkout on lttstore.com there you go and you'll see this interface where you can pick a color decide whether to leave your name or have it be anonymous, and go ahead and place your order, and we'll show you what a curated one looks like.

1:05:08Oh, man, I'm so tired, dude. I was snowboarding all day. I'm, like, dying. That was my best. That was the best that I could do just now. Am I super blurry? No, you're just a little down there in the bottom, I guess. Cool. You are blurry. It's focused on the background. Put up your hands. I'll fix it.

1:05:32I will try to fix it I love technology No Oh for crying out loud So blurry Blurry Linus Ugh You gotta squint Camera's in use by another application Like yes I know That's the That's why I need to fix it Seriously I can't The Razer app doesn't let me change the focus I love technology How about a merch message Oh now you're worse yeah oh we're good I'm so back okay Dan show us how a merch message works we're crying out loud no I won't what is it doing I'll show you how to check out merch he doesn't show you how to comm works autofocus is disabled what is it doing my goodness we're losing them oh no nope put on your glasses just say okay okay hi wenta dll i was wondering about how you chose the colors of ldd store items is there some science to it is it purely vibes and why not just make the same product in more colors especially apparel uh i can answer the more colors part more colors are more skews uh and that can get that can get pretty rough on certain things especially when there's a lot of sizes so like if you look at um i'm gonna bring up on screen our our cleanup wizard t-shirt so if we added another color here we don't add one product we add six products because we add a red one of this in small and medium and large and extra large and extra extra large and extra extra extra large and you can extrapolate that quite a bit sometimes like the pants the pants can be pretty brutal for this.

1:07:22If I go to, let me go navigate through the store real quick. We have, he's going to keep working on his blur, so I'm not worried about you seeing him. I'm going to go over to this one, the city set, go to the new pants that we have that are awesome. Now you have two different inseam lengths, a crazy amount of waist sizes and color. So you've got all the waist sizes times two times the amount of colors and the amount of products that you have to keep in stock just goes whoop. So usually try to keep it kind of dialed down. Now there's a bit of a research portion to selling things as well, where we put these pants on sale.

1:08:03We've got the regular, we've got the tall, we've got these, all these different waist sizes. If these sell super well, that might inform us that the pants are good. And maybe some people might like additional colors, and then we could expand from there. But if these just sell like kind of okay, then maybe we don't want to add a bunch of colors because maybe people like the pants enough, but they don't like them enough to have to buy more in a bunch of different colors. So yeah, t-shirts have a bit of an easier time with this because you can have a bunch of blanks in a range of colors and then print the shirts onto the blanks.

1:08:36But then even that's not like a perfect answer. Hopefully I did justice to that question for the CW people. I know there was another part to that. How do you pick the colors? um yeesh there's a very low percentage chance that i can answer this accurately linus might know decently well but he has faded into the void uh he's gone so i'm gonna give it a shot cw people i'm sorry if i fail you um but i think they they look at trends they look at upcoming trends they look at general fashion stuff and just try to look at uh the different types of colors that people are into moving forward um and try to keep us matched with said trends now uh we do tend to fall into a bit of a category of tech nerd uh and generic tech nerd do tend to like black shirt um so black shirt with printing on it does often end up being a way that we go um but i also think that they're trying to have fun with stuff they want to have fun jobs they want you to have more interesting clothing i support it so every once in a while we get stuff like the pixel heart shirt which is this like crazy red yeah i didn't sell the teddy fleece jacket which is pretty wild colors that one does pretty good people love that one i really like the rgb sweater i really think people look really sharp in this um i think i've told the story like a million times but is anyone supposed to be able to see what you're showing um i can show that now um this is the the rgb sweater this is a non-black it's actually it's a it's a dark like i don't know if you can call it navy but it's a dark blue with uh like like basically color flecking throughout it i didn't know this was our product for a while um i sat down at a conference next to taren and he was wearing it and i was like oh wow it's a really nice sweater it looks good on you i had no clue it was ours um that's hilarious i think it looks really sharp um i think like when you look like this photo i think is a really good representation of just like you wear a decent pair of pants you throw this on top of it and you look very professional while wearing a sweater it's cool but with a touch of fun yeah 100 yep it's cool okay next question thanks for stalling no problem um let's see hopefully my guesses on those answers were at least decently accurate yeah i didn't hear them because i had to leave the room okay yeah in order to open up the application in order to put it back to manual focus which it was still on but just all right I did what I could.

1:11:08Oh, great. I started Claire Obscura a week or so ago, and I'm really enjoying it. Linus talks about JRPGs a lot. Are there any other modern ones with some ARPG elements I should check out? Love the show. Thanks, guys. I'm the last person to go to for game recommendations because, A, I tend to be kind of basic. I just play what I know I'm probably going to like. and B, I don't get a chance to play a ton of games, so I don't really get to go off the beaten path much. Like, what am I supposed to say? Yeah, Expedition 33 was really good. Did you really need me to tell you that? Like, it flippin' swept the game awards, right?

1:11:53Like, it's, don't take my word for it at that point, right? Yeah. I love CrossCode. It's probably... Ah, is it my favorite modern JRPG? The characters are so incredible. If you haven't played it already, go play it. But it's more of like a pixel art style that I'm personally really into. And I just, I haven't played that many modern ones. I did finish Expedition 33 since last WAN show. So if we want to talk about it at all, we can. But Luke hasn't played and I don't think Dan's playing. so there's not really going to be much for me to say other than yeah, it's really good without getting into stuff that would involve serious spoilers for people in chat and on the show who might actually play it at some point

1:12:43You know, okay, one small thing I know on the store that we're advertising the polo and the tech pants together and this might be me being RGB sweater pilled but I think the tech pants and a nice belt and the RGB sweater would go really well together. I'm just going to put that out there before we move on. Thanks Luke. Come to me for future fashion advice. Next topic. YouTube react videos could face lawsuits but not for the reason you think. A lawsuit has been filed between two creators for reaction-based content. The catch? One channel is filing the lawsuit against the other for the way the react content was acquired.

1:13:23Oh, interesting. Christopher Cordova, the individual who filed the suit, is stating that the footage that was acquired without their permission was ripped using ripping tools that bypassed YouTube's technical protections, which they claim is in violation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act or DMCA. Torrent Freak stepped in to defend Jonathan Hunolt. Hopefully I said that right. The individual being sued, saying that there is no way Cordova could prove, that's what I was kind of thinking, or know ripping tools are being used, stating that for years, many React creators simply record their screen instead of ripping the content.

1:13:57Yeah, this is very difficult to prove. Judge DiMarchi did not immediately throw out the case, which has raised concerns in the React community because if this case goes through, it could have effects down the line for all React-type content. That would be... I mean... Very interesting. To summarize, this isn't a question of fair use. Judge DiMarchi has acknowledged this as fair use, but what calls into question is the way React footage is obtained. How are you supposed to... How would you prove how you got it? Like, what would hypothetically... What would that look like to you? Dude, I have no idea.

1:14:42I mean, the discussion question here is, how the f*** is anyone ever going to prove how people obtained footage? I'll just cut it out of the video if I leak the file name

1:14:54yeah I have no idea I don't think you can really prove this but then would that none in my opinion but would that result in if you can't prove that you got the footage like ethically then you can't do it at all or would it go the other way around I don't know I don't even think it's a question of ethically though it's a question of whether you circumvented a digital lock effectively right but then is screen capturing your screen yeah not the same thing is that not a ripping tool anyway that that's where i and i'm to be clear i'm not even taking a side on this one i'm just i don't know what you do asking questions you're not gonna be able to prove it and like you said what difference does it make yeah i don't i don't understand why we're even having this conversation because I don't understand the difference.

1:15:51I don't know. Okay, in that case, let's not even bother. Let's talk instead about something, okay, that doesn't happen necessarily that often, but something pretty cool that the Canadian province of Quebec has done. They have a new Consumer Protection Act, which is all in French, So bad news, everyone, but that's okay, because we'll sort it out for you. But basically, they had some planned obsolescence safeguards that were passed back in 2023 that are finally going to come into full effect October 5th of this year that are pretty cool. For starters, increased minimum warranty periods on consumer electronics and appliances from three years on laptops, desktops, tablets, cell phones, and game consoles, all the way to six years on large appliances like stoves and refrigerators.

1:17:00That is kind of awesome. The next line is also awesome. Like, okay, hold on. Let's talk about this. Why is it that three years is not already standard for an Xbox? that's crazy yeah i like this a lot i do suspect that this will result in products being just more expensive in quebec yes um but i i think this would be cool if it was a standard basically everywhere i this this like we're i think we talked about on the show like a couple weeks ago but there's this whole idea that like even refrigerator repair people are like yeah you don't bother keep your refrigerator after five years it's just garbage is like that's crazy this is now e-waste on a totally different level dude like when it's phones and stuff like that that sucks obviously e-waste in general is unfortunate but like we're throwing out washers and dryers and refrigerators and dishwashers as if they're you know phone cycle replacements like this is bad this is not good i've got people asking wasn't an xbox already a three-year warranty no this is a like I mean what's the Xbox up to?

1:18:10I was going to say $500 device but it's gone up in price like this is an expensive item that has a one year warranty okay the next one warranties follow the product for the full term of the warranty regardless of whether the item is resold this is just such common sense it's just so obvious what? something this water bottle that that isn't a rule. Magically might not last as long if I sell it to Luke. What are you talking about? Insane. All right, next. Used cars and motorcycles also get automatic warranty coverage depending on the age of the vehicle and mileage. Jordan says, I think this is dealers only, but it's not clear in the translation.

1:18:58Yeah, that one's a little tough. I don't know how that works, but I like the gusto. Yep. Additionally, all goods bought or leased must be able to serve their normal purpose for a reasonable length of time. The law also prohibits the use of techniques that make it more difficult to maintain and repair goods and aims to guarantee the availability of spare parts and repair services. Retailers must inform customers of their minimum warranty coverage under the law before trying to sell any extended warranties. Based. So basically... That's a really good last line, actually, because people might not be aware that this change happened.

1:19:37Yep. That's a very good, very good addition. Whoever was like, hmm, we might actually want to add something to this, that was smart. Good job. So David and I did another one of those fun Linus and David just go and buy something adventures. Nice. We went to Costco to buy a desktop, and we had a really cool experience with that from one of the reps there that is not going to be able to appear on camera because we didn't call ahead and get permission to film at Costco. We just kind of showed up and we're like, well, we're buying a computer and we're going to roll on some Metaglasses and good luck, everybody.

1:20:09By the way, apologies in advance. David has never shot anything on Metaglasses before and he's a very active conversationalist, so the footage might be a little shaky sometimes. David was like the king of interacting with the host from behind the camera. you know that right yeah like he just like he can't help it he's just a very active listener he's a very he's a very uh engaged personality and these are all good things as long as you're not a human tripod so anyway but yeah it was really fun and we and we had a really great experience where um the the representative which i didn't even know like luke did you know that Costco had like someone who works in the electronics department to like talk to you about computers?

1:21:02No. Yeah, it's a thing. So we talked to the guy and he gives us a little, you know, like pro tip that if you don't tell the motherboard manufacturer, for instance, that it was part of a complete system, it may very well have a longer three-year warranty on it. And same with, you know, things like memory, they often have a lifetime warranty on it. So So yes, it has a Costco extended two-year warranty. So they do an extra year, I believe, on computer systems compared to if you buy those systems elsewhere, which I thought was a pretty good value add. But he was like, and you might even be able to get more.

1:21:36And it's the kind of thing that makes you feel really good as a consumer. Like the sales rep is there to help you and guide you and inform you rather than there to extract your money. And it was just such a positive experience. And to have that enshrined in law, I guess I wish it wasn't necessary, but I'm glad that it is. And I would love to see, I'd love to see this expand. I did see someone in the chat saying, yeah, there's already brands that are, that are looking to pull out of Quebec because of this. But I think the answer is not for Quebec to back down. The answer is for everyone else to step up.

1:22:13That will give more opportunity and more sales attention to brands that don't. Yeah. Which is awesome. Now it's time to give some attention to the brands who sponsored the show today. Nice. We received some new chairs on the WAN Show set that Razor sent over. I, unfortunately, am not sitting on one of them. I'm sitting on a hard-backed wooden chair that has my butt completely asleep. But if I was sitting on one of them, then I would tell you, these are their new Isker V2 New Gen chairs. The leather on these now comes with Razor's CoolTouch technology to help not just with breathability, but to make them more peel-resistant.

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1:23:29I can say with 100%, the sponsor read is over, honesty, that I wish I was sitting on that chair right now. This thing sucks so much. Sometimes a wooden chair can actually be really great. Oh yeah. This is not one of those times. The show is also brought to you by Squarespace. Whether you're an entrepreneur looking to finally launch your business, or you're looking for a way to share your hobbies with the world, it really helps to have a website. And our sponsor, Squarespace, would love to help you get started. They've implemented new AI tools that have you start with a curated set of layouts that allow you to customize to fit your brand's vibe.

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1:24:56Do you want to talk about Anchor? This really came up when we were talking about the sponsors that we've kicked to the curb. It sure did. No notes. Anchor, Eufy, Soundcore. Anchor, Eufy, Soundcore. Contacts. Anchor used to be our biggest partner. did they? Our biggest partner? I don't think that's right. Yeah. Is that right? I think so. I'm going to message Colton right now. They used to be a sizable partner that we had. Maybe the biggest one? I don't think that. I didn't think that would have been right, but either way. I messaged Colton and Steve and I will find out. Fake news in the WAN duck and we dropped them because of a fiasco with Yuffie where their cameras weren't encrypted it and they tried to lie and got caught and it did get resolved but it was weird and took a long time and they still had us on their website for like months and months and months and months and months and months but uh we want to work with them again so linus wants to suss this out okay i just heard back from colton he says yes they were our biggest partner 2020 era oh man yeah so they messaged me earlier today and basically colton's like hey we want to to work with them again specifically on the anchor and soundcore brands are we fine engaging with them we dropped them many years ago because of the whole debacle i'd just like to bring up for a moment that i'm so tired of people calling our integrity as a company into question when we have done stuff like this like unflinchingly without hesitation apparently they were our biggest partner literally didn't matter we did it anyway cool let's move on um i think the big question here is put very succinctly by night author in the float plane chat any reason to believe that they have changed i think good question i think that's the question and i have to i have to be honest with you they they did eventually resolve the eufy thing okay we still i still have no interest in engaging with the eufy brand i didn't like the way that they deflected like if the eufy thing had happened and then they had immediately owned it and taken steps i'm not about people being defined by their mistakes.

1:27:24To me, you're defined by how you respond to them. How did they respond to them? They did eventually. They apologized? No, initially they just deflected and completely not apologized. Yes, they did eventually. It was like ages later. And so that was my problem. That was why we ultimately were like, well, see ya. And Andre B says, okay, well, how do you prove now that they're trustworthy. So I think that's why Colton is talking specifically about the Anchor and the Soundcore brands rather than even bringing up Eufy with me. Because no, I just don't. I just don't think that I would be comfortable with a Eufy product at this point.

1:28:13But like, look, this is one of those things where when we dropped them, it did create a ton of confusion because i was very explicit from the start i said look we're just not going to take their money that doesn't mean i'm going to stop using their products like check this out oh hold on i'm up one sec

1:28:37literally right now literally right now i am plugged in i mean i mean make your power brick I mean, there's also this. Oh, hold on. I can't see it. One of the more recent articles on the Labs website is testing an Anker Nanocharger. Yeah. We never said we weren't going to cover them. We never said we weren't going to use the products. Yeah. We just said that we weren't going to take their money. And I think the question is, have they done enough for us to change that?

1:29:11Yeah, I'm just looking at a lot of... Does The Verge require a subscription now? Interesting. For some articles, not all. Apparently, their Eufy blames the software update and promises to do better article is behind one of those.

1:29:27And I mean, I don't know. It's been five years. How long do we have to put someone in sponsor jail for? Like, I think it's... It was... Oh, man. Was it actually 2020? I think it was like 2022, 2023 or something. A lot of the stuff I'm finding online about this is from 2023. Yeah. Okay. Can you? Okay. Oh, no. Colton. Sorry. Colton said 2020. They were our biggest partner in 2020. Got it. Okay.

1:30:04Trying to remember. I'm trying to remember who it was. Was it Tech Brew? that made that really good point about not just like, if a company makes a mistake, not just putting them in jail forever. Like at some point, if they rectify the issue, then no, it wasn't TechBrew. Who was it? Luke, do you remember? No, I don't know. Oh, shoot. It was on their podcast or something. Anyway, it was a good point. yeah imsys says i personally haven't bought any anchor or other their brand products since the eufy news um blaze henry says don't forget that anchor also has issues with exploding power bank recalls like every few months that uh is that true though evidence of that i know there were some bad cells that a number of battery bank manufacturers got um got burned by pun intended so let's just be very let's be sure that that was actually an anchor specific issue

1:31:19xanthoxin says is an apology all that was needed i'd want more assurance than that i mean yeah that's that's very fair especially when you got gas lit the first time before the apology was issued.

1:31:32The Mighty Reptar says, yeah, don't put Flock on your bad list forever. I mean, that, yeah. See, that's a tough one because that is a situation where I'd say, yeah, they're on the bad list forever. I don't see how there would be any redemption there. Yeah. So I'm reading this Verge article because I'm kind of like, my memory's not that great. So I'm trying to recall what happened here. And the Verge article opens with, first, Anchor told us it was impossible. Then it covered its tracks then it repeatedly deflected while utterly ignoring your emails so shortly before christmas we gave the company an ultimatum if anchor wouldn't answer why it supposedly always encrypted eufy cameras were producing unencrypted streams among other questions we would publish a story about the company's lack of answers it worked so they had to get like dirty like ethically blackmailed um into into doing the right thing which is like you know like you said it's been years it hasn't been that many years but like maybe people involved with this are gone um i don't know but just an apology after that level of like trying to cover up something actually very serious is a little sketch i might i might like a little bit more i don't know what that more would be i think the bigger question for me from the business team is why do we need to do this is there just some other is there some other power company that we could just work with instead um because of my annoyance with this thing i have i don't know if i've even talked to you about this but i have personally i know they're a sponsor of ours but on a personal level i've switched to ugreen i've bought ugreen things lately um yeah i bought four ugreen power um uh wall words recently just so that the kids will not lose theirs uh so they have like travel travel ones when i was traveling i bought a family set power bank which has been great uh i more recently bought a ugreen wall wart which has been great um i also haven't used this yet so i can't comment on it but i bought one of their usb to 3.5 millimeter cables which has a bluetooth chip in the usb plug so it just looks like a usb to 3.5 mil but it basically adds bluetooth to your car it powers the bluetooth over the usb and then it gives the audio over 3.5 it looks cool i haven't used it yet though um yeah i don't know but i that being said i don't necessarily know that they need the biggest reason if they think the company has actually moved on it's just this was like a pretty big deal so yeah i i'm i'm interested in how like what what do they what did they do so okay maybe they said like sorry that we lied and then covered up and then deflected and then got blackmailed into saying the truth um but what did they what do they do about that did they do they do some form of action to follow up and i think this requires more digging personally that's my stance i know the goal was to ask the audience not me um but that's that's where I'm at.

1:34:35Why don't we pencil it in for 2027? And how about anchor has a really good year and doesn't screw anything up. And we revisit in 2027. Does that make sense? Partially. I need to go look into the apology that they gave. I don't know what they said. and I'd like to know what they did. Somebody said we need heads on sticks and it's like to a certain degree this was actually unacceptable. But again things change, times change, people change, etc. Especially at companies, staff changes. We heard a stat recently. Most people stay at a company for two years. It's been more than that now. So there could be a very significant level of turnover.

1:35:27for the people involved in that. And maybe we're good to go. By the time we're 2027, like you said, based on statistics, a huge portion of that company will have turned over. Maybe second chance is fine. But yeah, I think paying attention to what they do in that period of time would be really good and paying attention to the ways they communicate. And hopefully, here's a weird take, hopefully they have some form of problem so you can see how they deal with it. Gerky008 says, they also promised a microsite that we never got, focusing on security. Interesting. Okay, I think this requires more digging.

1:36:11It needs to dig more. I'm going to flag that. I'm on a new laptop. I haven't pinned snipping tool to my taskbar yet. You also have to remember they're a huge company. Even y 'all have communication issues at your size. even bigger has got to be worse. As far as my understanding goes, it gets a lot worse, but this is kind of a different level of problem, in my opinion. Okay. I think we need some more answers about how they've really changed. Also, this. Let's pencil in for 2027. but they need to demonstrate in some way that their culture... Hot take. If it takes this much digging to determine if an answer should be yes, maybe the answer should be no.

1:37:1199 % of who sees these bots isn't going to be doing the digging. I understand the take that you're trying to make, but I don't agree personally. But the flip side of it is that most people are just buying a battery, like a wall wart or a battery bank. And like, we just, we just did that labs article on an anchor wall wart. That was just like a random side quest that Lucas was interested in. Like it had nothing to do with this conversation that Colton's bringing up with me. And it's like a good wall wart. And so like, why should we, why should we not say, yeah, this is a good wall wart and get sponsorship dollars for it.

1:37:49And then someone buys a good wall wart and then they enjoy their wall wart. like I just yes and also no the only thing I hate about LMG is their indifference to crowdsource carriers what? what are crowdsourced carriers? what are crowdsourced carriers?

1:38:19like Like for shipping?

1:38:27Like Uber, but for parcels. Sorry, what does this have to do with our indifference? This is the first I've heard of it. And also, I'd need to look into this a lot more. I feel so out of left field. Indifference incoming. No. like we i mean we've we've talked in defense of them a lot on wanshow i don't i genuinely don't know what you're talking about but anyway crowdsourced carriers yeah we have remember we had a topic not that long ago we both got duped on it because it was like some ai slop thing but we were talking about how uber and all these different places are like often mistreating their drivers they don't get paid very much we've talked on wanshow about how like at a certain degree you're exchanging the value of your car for short-term money the fact that they're like little mini individual corporations like hurts their ability to get things like health insurance and how it's it doesn't properly get flagged as not being employed even though in a lot of cases it effectively is like this we've talked about this stuff before yeah i don't think that's quite what they're talking about though i think they meant like crowdsource carriers like like like instead of fedex or something am i am i maybe i'm missing something here i don't know i have no idea okay all right cool well either way uh That's neat.

1:39:47Should we move on? I think I'm ready to leave it there. I kicked it back to the business team to do a bit more investigation, and I think that one way or another, this is still a little fresh, and we can pencil it in for 2027, as long as they don't screw anything else up this year and as long as they tell us what exactly it is that they've done to show that their culture has moved beyond this behavior. Sounds good. No notes. Google lets you remove explicit images and other personal info from search results. Google launched a tool to request removal of non-consensual explicit images from search results.

1:40:23Users click the three dots on the image result and select remove result. Okay. Yeah. Requests are trackable through Google's results about YouHub, which also expanded to let users submit government ID numbers for monitoring. major caveat is you have to give google your data first yeah i knew that and it only removes the results from google search not from the internet itself well yeah it's something which means crawlers are still going to get it and crawlers are the thing that's becoming more common for google search the one thing that's kind of cool sorry it's not in the notes there is one other thing that's kind of cool is once you've requested a takedown uh you don't have to like keep requesting takedowns, it'll proactively remove it again.

1:41:13That is neat. If it shows up again. Do you think this will remove it from the AI summary? No. Oh, Google's own AI summary? I think it probably will. I don't know about that. I don't think it gives image results really. Because that's not AI, is it? Maybe I've never asked the AI for an image. It's given image results from the lab's website. Oh. Fun time. Bloody hell. okay before we get into another business meeting because i think that was one of our topics this week was to talk about oh is it actually in here i don't know i thought we were gonna like kind of talk about the lab and how well like what the future of the lab's website looks like if um if our traffic okay because i don't have the chart here so it's it gets hurt a lot i'll send an email yeah next next week but basically yeah um ai ai crawlers uh we we tried to turn them off and there's some interesting behavior we'll get into that before we do our next topic though i just want to talk about the lena khan thing from last week what i was getting at i went too far i went too far and i'm sorry what i was trying to get at is that being pro-consumer and being based is sexy that's all i was trying to say it wasn't meant to be literally sexual it was just like it's so cool that it's like sexy wood that's all it wasn't meant to actually be personal there i said what i should have said right away afterward i don't think that helps i what you you just said wood again but no that that's what i said last week that's that's where i was going with it like i went too far because it wasn't it wasn't meant to be about the actual person it was just meant to be being super pro consumer and awesome is so good that it's like gone sexual it yes it's i'm not saying it wasn't dumb luke

1:43:12okay that's all that's all i have to say about it okay Alphabet is issuing 100-year bonds. Google's parent company will use the Sterling Century Bond to fund AI investments. Century bonds are highly unusual, especially in the tech sector, where long-term bonds usually top out at 40 years, though IBM did sell a 100-year bond in 1996. Our discussion question here is, I got nothing from Jordan. This is crazy. Yeah. Would you have any faith whatsoever that Alphabet will still exist in 100 years, let alone be in any kind of condition to be paying you for holding their bonds because of, and I guess their logic, they need to build AI infrastructure so desperately and so immediately that they are mortgaging their future in order to have that AI infrastructure today.

1:44:35is this am I am I missing something here because I I am I am not like a financial services expert by any stretch of the imagination but my my understanding is that basically they're just you're giving them cash today and then they are giving you a return on that like effectively forever for life but they will have to exist and they will have to have this money in order to continue to pay that out in the longer term, which means that money you give them today, they have to generate a return on it. Otherwise, the whole thing doesn't make any sense. Am I missing something here?

1:45:20If a company, oh man, if a company sells a 100-year bond and then the company itself is sold, the company that buys them would still owe on the 100-year bond correct or no i mean it's uh the guarantor my understanding is google's parent company it's alphabet so it's a publicly held if alphabet so it's not about people at that point okay if alphabet got taken private uh then it would be whoever privately owns them then it would be their liability But it would transfer. Like they can't just be like, oops, bought the company. I'm not going to pay these out anymore. Okay. While I will say like I could foresee a future where Alphabet doesn't exist anymore very easily, I don't think I foresee a future where Alphabet goes private at this point.

1:46:12They're just the scale that they've reached. It's I don't look. I'm just trying to say. I hate to use the I word. Nothing's impossible. They also have a crazy amount of. So someone pointed out that IBM sold 100-year bonds in like 1996 or something. And I was thinking like, oh, no, that's in the doc. Yeah. I thought I sold my chat for whatever reason. I could see that still being a thing because IBM just has so many patents. And at this point, they're just kind of sitting around with patents as far as I can tell. No, they do stuff. Okay. Sure. They're doing the quantum. I could still see. I could still see.

1:46:47yeah as far as my understanding goes they're doing that to generate patents but anyways that's a topic for another time um i could still see google being around because of the amount of things that they've made um um but that's where like their their their like ip and their patents being important or you know youtube has proven a new age of youtube staying power um and maybe google just exists forever now look at how much they killed off yeah yeah tons tons of what i really want to know guys is am i missing something here is this as crazy as it seems to be on the surface It seems nuts, yeah.

1:47:45Nobody seems to think that I've gone crazy here. Don't think so. Well, at least for this, anyway. Yeah, just this, not the previous thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it's crazy. Okay, so we're all on the same page. Well, no, you just, you buy, I don't know how much total they issued, but like billions is my understanding. But you buy like what you want to buy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

1:48:15insomniac says nobody ever thought bitcoin was going to be worth a hundred thousand dollars uh got some bad news for you insomniac it isn't how much is it gonna be worth in 100 years yeah 100 years like maybe an incredible amount more maybe nothing yeah because maybe we have quantum coin at that point or something who knows who knows or people decide to scam in some other way not that bitcoin's really heavy on that but that space is

1:48:47bite coin oh what an evolution i'm sure somebody's done that already okay all right i wow yeah it seems like uh it seems like this is it seems like this is um yeah just as crazy as it sounds to me um is this just people being absolutely like like wealthy investors and and funds being desperate for somewhere to put money right now that it's not gonna rot like is is that the issue with with the way inflation's going with the u.s dollar and the way the u.s dollar is devaluing with the way that gold doesn't generate uh passive income like There's reasons that all these different asset classes exist.

1:49:34You don't want to just have everything in real estate. Is this just tech company bonds? Is this the new YOLO Hail Mary? Because there's so much money being managed by some firm that they're just kind of like, well, we got to buy something with it. And okay, here's the thing. And if this doesn't work, then whatever, some of the other things we did will probably work really good. Is that what's going on here?

1:50:05No idea, man. None of the financial stuff makes any sense to me anymore. Everybody's just doing stocks based on vibes. And now we're doing 100-year-long bonds based on probably vibes. Just nothing means anything anymore. Scrappy DP says, no, this is Google raising capital. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I understand why Google wants to do it. the part that I don't understand is why anyone wants to buy it. That's what I'm trying to figure out. No, it's not a new thing. Look at preferred stocks and perpetual bonds.

1:50:43Preferred stocks and perpetual bonds. Not a new thing. Okay. All right. Okay. Just sounds kind of ridiculous. Why wouldn't you just buy actual equity? It's a public company. Well, maybe there's some tax reason for it then. So you can borrow against it because a bond is more certain. It's a guaranteed payout that's lower than the more aggressive appreciation. Bonds are safer. Bonds are not tied to share price. Yeah. All right. We're just getting into weird lands we don't necessarily understand. I mean, I can wrap my brain around that, but I also just have to... Yeah, I know it's just we're like the comparatives are things that we haven't necessarily heard of, which is like, OK, we should probably just get out of here.

1:51:32A bond is only a guarantee as long as the guarantor is able to guarantee it. I mean, that's why like U.S. government bonds were so popular for so long. Yeah. Because, well, yeah, the U.S. government won't go anywhere and they can always just print more money or whatever. But like buying a bond from a company that pivots as often and as hard as Google does for 100 years, 100 years, alphabet bonds, 100 years. Like, OK, sure. Why don't we do another topic? Sure. Sony will ship their final Blu-ray recorders this month Blu-ray players will continue production for now. That's all just wanted to flag that Blu-ray's Blu-ray's death is not greatly exaggerated.

1:52:28It seems like it is finally finally coming finally coming. Cool. See you later Blu-ray. Does anyone is anyone in chat going to miss Blu-ray? Oh! East of Easton. Blu-ray recorders? Yep. What is that for? Like writing. What is that for? Like burners? Remember burners? Why would you call it a recorder? Well, that was often what they were called back in the day. Writers, burners, recorders. I've never heard it called a recorder. I think the burner parlance kind of went away pretty early on. But consumers liked it because it was cool. Yeah. Are you going to have writer, recorder? Yeah, 100%.

1:53:16let's just do the float plane announcements yeah some of these other ones are really depressing oh check this out want to bring up the interface there are three early access ltd videos and two amazing float plane exclusives up this week one of the three christmas bonuses this year was allowing employees to spend$1 ,000 on whatever they choose as long as they go with fellow employees. Sammy, Chewy, Ariana, and Bell vlogged their time spending their$1 ,000 on a bunch of stuff like a base, belt, clothes, and a book. Fun fact, of the three options, about 95 % of the company chose to spend the$1 ,000 and then have a paid day off.

1:54:02There were other options. In fact, Luke and Dan We're the only two people that picked one of the other options. Do you want to talk about it? You guys are done now, right? No, but we're done the primary portion, except I forgot you're supposed to take the day off and I wouldn't have been able to anyway. So I didn't do that part. But we got four really like fancy, very fancy cooking glasses. And we got a, we went to a Michelin star restaurant and had the day off the day that we went to the Michelin star restaurant. didn't realize just how fancy it was until what they showed you the meat or something oh the cooking classes yeah that was crazy i was just like oh cool four cooking classes neat uh and then yeah they went over the ingredients list and i was like whoa okay all right um like what was it i forget you told me at some point uh there's like this can you describe the uh the lamb Dan yeah it's like a special New Zealand lamb grown by sort of a small farm with very particular rules and regulations and it's not sold retail it's only given to a couple different restaurants when they start talking about crap the person's name that they know that they get it through and stuff yeah Jeffrey's brought this over and he's like I work for a different company now do you want lamb?

1:55:25And it's like, oh. Okay. Restaurant's a bit strange. When each individual ingredient in the food has a story, you know you're paying a lot of money. Got it. So that was neat. And then we went to a Michelin star restaurant. We did that last night, actually. That's right. So we did our thing yesterday. And that's when I was like, yeah, my favorite part was the potato. To be fair, it was a very fancy potato. It was an extremely fancy potato. It was like a rosette done sort of scalped. Surrounded by potato skin cream. Which was very nice. It had some sort of cheese or something on it as well. It was really good.

1:55:59It was an excellent. Unique experience. I would say so too. We did eight courses. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, most people just got the shopping spree. I still haven't figured out why no one else picked this. It's been amazing. I'm very happy with the choice so far. We still have two courses to go. So it's four courses. Classes. Yeah, sorry. All right, we also have a Blue Screen of Death competition featuring Elijah, Danny, one of our new writers, Jordan, and Tatiana to see who can get a blue screen the fastest. If early releases are more to your tastes, we've got three. We released Tuesday's video a whole week early on Floatplane, which has Elijah converting from an Android to an iPhone and giving his reasons as to why.

1:56:51We also bought a$90 ,000 TV, Plouffe and I unbox, and at least help a little bit with the assembly to see how good it is. It's crazy. It's incredible. Spoiler. Sorry. And finally, our Dashcam roundup, which we'll release right now, is coming early. Fill your weekend with exclusives and early access at lmg.gg slash fpwan. What the heck, Sammy? why would you write do this call to action first please at the end of the dog or the end of the segment it gets red and bold and in larger font and it has like like little whatever the little hats are called the little uh shift shift six the hats it has a bunch of hats do this first please Sammy why would you put it at the end hello Luke can you show the screen Sammy's here how did you get here show the float plane landing page the float plane landing page I'm supposed to do yeah show the things okay what are you doing in the call Sammy can they hear you yeah show the things show the things yeah blue screen death yeah are you even oh i don't know why are you still here why am i still here yeah it's late dude i don't know i didn't realize you like ran onto set and i was like how am i hearing sammy right now i couldn't i couldn't see him so i really was confused i didn't see him at first i didn't yeah anyways i just i just need i just need to go on the right screen okay bye okay i thought he just hacked into our call yeah i was really impressed.

1:58:43I was like, wow, your mic's really good. Yeah. All right.

1:58:54Either the other section of sponsors, or you can do more topics. Noctua! No, Noctua! Noctua celebrates half a million CPU cooler mounting upgrade kits. This is so cool. This is from Tom's Hardware. For the past 20 years. Yeah, exactly it's actually very cool I like that they celebrated it this is so based this is so pro consumer that I think it's sexy wood for the past 20 years whatever Roland would be something for the past 20 years Noctua has been offering mounting upgrade kits yeah they have for free to anyone with a valid receipt for a Noctua cooler this is with the intention of your noctua cooler being able to be effectively the last cooler you ever buy as long as you don't you don't need uh the you know the the better performance of whatever their new gen one is i believe you have to pay shipping that's my understanding but um the the kit itself is available for free and and this is great for those without the receipt the kits are still available on marketplaces for around$10.

2:00:14You can, and we actually did a YouTube short on this before the 20-year mark, but after, I don't know, it was like 16 years or something like that, where we took the very first Noctua cooler. We actually had them send us one. They still had a unit of the very, very first Noctua heatsink. And we mounted it to the very latest CPU and showed it working. And it was awesome. And it was great. And the fact that they will support a product like that for so long is, it's just, it's admirable. Very admirable. And I love it. Whoa, Binky Draws says, not even shipping, you only need to pay if you want it expedited?

2:00:55That actually explains that time that Noctua sent us a bulk shipment of mounting kits for us to reship for them. Because I guess they were trying to save a little bit of money. Interesting.

2:01:13So cool What? Just you dude dude. You're just upset that my kink is being pro-consumer? That's so... Our kink now. That's so weird. Come on, Luke. You know, there's some people that you might have an uncomfortable attraction to based on that. Yeah, it knocked you up. It's kind of weird, dude. I'm not uncomfortable with it. I think you might be. I think Jacob would laugh it off. Okay. Alright, Let's try to go to something that doesn't arouse Linus somehow. Logitech G is not going to create an AI device that plays the game for you in their pro lineup. Too late, I'm into it.

2:02:03Logitech G Pro Series product manager Chris Pate was interviewed by Tom's guide about the future of AI in Logitech products. and then in quotes, Logitech as a company is very much looking at how to use AI and how to incorporate AI into, you know, both product development and into products themselves. From the, from a certain point of view, from the point of view of competitive integrity and esports specifically, I think we have to be very careful about how we use, potentially integrate and touch the pro series with AI. Touch, you didn't have to use, just be careful, Linus is here. we would never do it in a way that would compromise competitive integrity we're not going to create an ai device that plays the game for you right no no no keep reading it's good that's absolutely outside the bounds of what using that type of technology would be applied to the pro line okay yeah so i just nothing i just thought that's cool yeah good job logitech not for drawing a line right because taking a stance right now against ai in any way feels like like corporate kryptonite and just coming out and saying and and and and like okay it seems so obvious right no we're not going to create an ai product that like plays the game for you because that's completely against the integrity of competent yeah that seems obvious doesn't it luke And yet you've got all these monitor manufacturers that are figuring that started with a crosshair started with a cheat cheating crosshair.

2:03:40Yeah. You're supposed to just put masking tape on your screen and then put a little cross on it. Stop. What are you guys doing? And then got as far as like sending alerts like that, that they would monitor what's going on on screen in your mini map and send you alerts. If you're about to get ganked, like that is not playing the game anymore. Speaking of. Nope. Nope. No, go ahead. Speaking of things that Logitech could maybe use AI for, maybe naming their mice. There's a new article on the Labs website making sense of Logitech's mouse lineup where we go through their different things. This is like the opposite of sponsored by Logitech where we go through their different product lines and try to make sense of their naming schemes because they're a little wild.

2:04:20Should this be an LTT? Could this just be an LTT? Could I just take this article, write a script, and then just make it an LTT? I think if you wanted to make it an LTT, I think you might need to do more than just the Logitech mouse lineup. I think you might want to do like a couple companies or something. Why? I don't know. I mean, they're hands down the leader in the space. I mean, I think you and I have probably said more times than we can count. You want a good gaming mouse that'll last you a long time. Find something from Logitech's lineup. Yeah. So what's wrong with that? And then if it's successful.

2:04:57I don't think it has anything to do with that. And then if it's successful, hell marks 100 % right. We just do the same thing with Razer. And then it's a whole series. I think you could try it. I think you could try it. I think we should try more stuff. I would watch that. I think, okay. That's an awesome series. Business meeting time. I think sometimes we are often led by fear. And I think in the current YouTube environment, that actually doesn't, in a weird way, I think the craziness going on with the algorithm right now benefits not being very fearful about your content. Because if you release something, That sucks.

2:05:29The algorithm doesn't really seem like it punishes you as hard as it used to. It just will not give it any views. So there's a possibility this video gets 300 ,000 views, which for us would be pretty rough. But if that does happen, then the next one can still do really well. So you don't have the momentum issue that you had in the past. So just go for it. Yeah, sick. Since we're having a business meeting, Dan, I just dropped a link to the LTT subreddit in your teams.

2:06:05Should we start publishing to Pornhub? Sure. Apparently the ad CPMs are 3x. Yeah, nice. Just do it. There's also, if you need to do research for making your video, you could go Lucas has been posting all the articles on the LTT subreddit and I think somebody pointed out that we missed one of the mice or something so maybe there's some additional detail in the comments we do read the comments in there check them out on the subreddit but yeah I don't know you'd have to find an employee that wouldn't mind doing that I'm sure there is one you just put yourself on screen yeah he's going to put up the screen no that's not what happened i missed it luke can you throw it up um if you want to what am i throwing up i'm not potatoes potatoes okay what am i putting on screen right now i'll try and find where you guys are on the dock uh it was this link linus sent to me uh this is crazy so it's from a stem creator sorry where is this uh it's under the logitech topic okay i wasn't there anymore uh I see it.

2:07:18LTC, so it's a subreddit thing. This looks probably fine. It's safe for work. I've sent it. All right. Relax, guys. People may not know this, but I publish the same STEM videos on both YouTube and, what can I say? I think so, on The Hub. While YouTube generally generates more views, the ad revenue per million views on The Hub is nearly three times higher. Other creators are uploading STEM videos on The Hub and seeing two times the revenue. Since most of this subreddit spends their time on the hub anyways, it seems like a smart move for LTT to post there. To be clear, I don't think this is something that we would do for the same reason that we have certain ad verticals disabled on YouTube.

2:08:04I don't know that I'd be particularly... There's a reason that these advertisers pay more. It's because fewer sites will take them. Oh. that's why the CPMs are so high I mean we've had this conversation a thousand times around like the LTT forum we'll have some agency approach us oh yeah I could sell I could make you rich with ads on your community forum and I'm like yeah how and they go oh well all you have to do is have ads for this stuff and I'm like yeah okay we're good I thought it was interesting you could try it and see what the community feedback is try stuff do it we already have someone who will volunteer to do the uploading i already volunteered yeah we could upload like the good news stuff there like it could be a good news consumer protection news break yeah give yourself a break and give me a break yeah who volunteered to do the uploads was this elijah no dan did immediately oh for oh that's what he was doing i was like you'd have to find an employee who would who would be like willing to do this i am a team player waved immediately i'll take one for the team and then if you have a partner to help you with it?

2:09:13Is it a double team? Yeah, we'll double team the LTT videos. A good news break would be... Good news? Oh my god, that's funny. Damn, that's pretty good. We're gonna get some work out of the feed cam anyway. Oh my goodness. Is it possible to make too much money?

2:09:37I just... Whatever, just do it. See what community feedback is. No one in chat right now is like, oh my goodness, you can't do that. That would be bad. Like, nobody seems to care. Is that going to make our brand worse? We were already on OnlyFans. Yeah, that's true. Look, Luke, I don't think I've ever not been a try-anything-twice kind of entrepreneur. Then try it. All right. No balls.

2:10:08I can't hold it. All right, all right, all right, all right. Can we move on, please? We'll do it. Dan's going to create the account then, right? Did you actually volunteer to do this? Because I can't tell you to do this. No, I'll do it. Yeah, you can use my account. It's fine. I mean, the work account. The work account. It's in Keeper. We're fine. We have a work account? No. Well, I don't know. We might. We might need to contact them to get the username. I bet you someone took it. Say nothing. I'm sure they'd get it for us. I think we've been in touch with them before. I'm sure we'd get it for them.

2:10:46We have. Yep. Okay. I still want to do a data center tour. Yeah. That actually would be very cool. Yeah. The dirtiest data center. Water cool. Questionable liquids. Yeah, these are mineral oil PCs. It's recycled. When there's a leak, does it squirt? And he's dead. oh I need two fingers to plug this hole

2:11:17what's our next topic do you want to talk about our sponsors what would be the ratio of small white servers to large black servers

2:11:29oh I mean Luke's seen my server at home

2:11:35so oh man maybe it's that oh man

2:11:47okay um all right yeah why don't we do sponsor spots and then we have uh some good after that you want to put a little buffer in front of that you want to do a little notes topic real quick no we're good we need some after care here luke exactly exactly before we show is brought to you today by zero sponsors are i tried okay by zero bounce if you run a business that must send out emails in large quantities those messages are only useful if they arrive at their destination zero bounce is a service that helps clean up email data so your messages can actually hit the intended inboxes, not old or dead accounts.

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2:14:45I think it could be fun. You could use the washing machine one. Do you like the shape of my new screwdriver? Yeah, yeah, yeah. She checks out my screwdriver. One in each hand. 10 million views. Anyway, speaking of 10 million views, no notes, YouTube Music Lyrics now require a premium subscription. YouTube Music is rolling out a five free lyric view limit on their platform. Once you hit that limit, only the first few lines are visible with the rest blurred unless you subscribe. YouTube music premium costs$11 a month in the U S while full YouTube premium is 1399 a month in the U S. I don't know why pretty much anyone would get just YouTube music premium.

2:15:28And my reason for saying that is not because like, Oh, you're too cheap to get the whole YouTube premium. My reason for that is I would just get something else. Shopify or sorry Spotify or something I YouTube music really is like the thing that you have because you have YouTube premium uh just like how every company uses teams because they happen to have the office suite and teams happens to be there which makes it like the best option not because it's actually good um just so I only I only highlighted this because it's I guess wonderful that YouTube is finding ways to make or Google is finding ways to make YouTube music worse instead of making it more like Google Play Music, which was awesome.

2:16:08So yeah, this blows and that's all that I have to say about that. Google says it now has 325 plus million paid subscribers across services. That's pretty good. I'm assuming that includes Google Workspace. Also not that meaningful because their services are so broad. Yeah, and YouTube brought in over 60 billion in ads and subscriptions in 2025. All right, what else we got Microsoft is rolling out a new secure boot certificate before the old ones expire in June. So they've started pushing these through monthly windows updates ahead of June, 2026, which is the expiration of the original 2011 certificates.

2:16:47Secure boot verifies trusted bootloaders that start out blocking things like root kits from loading before windows begins. The new certificates are being automatically deployed to supported windows 11, 24 H2 and 25 H2 systems. Though some devices may require firmware updates from OEMs first. Basically, we're just flagging this to like look into your device, make sure that you're not going to enter a degraded security state with reduced boot level protections and all that good stuff. Also, in other news, T-Mobile introduces live translations with no app required. I thought that was pretty cool.

2:17:18I don't have the opportunity to try it because I'm not on T-Mobile. So, yep, there you go. That's pretty neat. And I and Neo. I don't know. Sounds cool. Someone try it out and let me know. So they're recording all your calls is what I'm taking. Of course they are. Yeah, cool. Don't you love the world? I want to talk about Aya Neo's new handheld. They, the first time Aya Neo did like, like we're making something that's really high end. They called it the Aya Neo Next. And it was a pretty cool handheld back in the day. They just announced the Next 2, which without early bird pricing on Indiegogo is starting.

2:18:00At$2 ,000. And the maxed out spec will be$4 ,300. We are literally in decent secondhand car territory. It's multiple times the cost of my first car. And I'm also assuming that's USD. So it's like a few multiple times. The maxed out specs include a 9-inch 165-hertz OLED at 2400 by 1504 that reaches 1 ,155 nits. the amd ryzen ai max plus 395 so this is a 16 core cpu 16 core mobile cpu zen 5 cores that has an rdna what is it something something point something not for the the previous one has uh an rdna graphic gpu that's like about on par with kind of an entry-level mobile dedicated gpu like This thing is flipping powerful.

2:18:54RDNA 3.5. Thanks, Vokarudis Diaboli or whatever. Up to 128 gigs of LPDDR5X memory at 8533 megatransfer per second. Two terabytes of NVMe storage. TMR joysticks. Hall effect triggers. A 116 watt hour battery that is going to make it so that you have to fill out special paperwork in order to take it on a plane. And it weighs about a kilogram and a half. Three and a half pounds. that's sick do you want to show it on screen as someone who already has spent a fair bit of time daily driving a gpd win 5 this is the last category of products that needs fierce competition the the strix halo handheld gaming pc space it looks like a pretty cool little device though ianio has run into some trouble recently with um their customers being kind of irate at them for reasons that i don't 100 know right now but uh seem to be valid i i like very briefly scanned it like supporting devices after the fact and stuff like that i actually kind of like what gpd did with the win 5 the i when i unboxed it i thought it was really stupid but the more i've used it the more i've really liked their battery tether i just put it in the pocket of my cargo pants and then it makes it so that it feels like a normal weight and i don't have to carry around a massive massive battery with it with that said even even with the giant battery oh dude it feels like it feels like rocking out to my zune yeah um even with the massive battery that it has it still doesn't like last that long i mostly used it used it plugged in but it's nice to be able to game in bed at like really high fidelity i played most of expedition 33 on the gpd win 5 east of Beeson said, good thing this can't fly because you won't after those prices either.

2:20:45And while I think that's really funny, I think the people that can afford that and will buy that will be able to fly afterwards because that's what's happening to the economy. Hey, did you hear about the new concept, the E-shaped economy? No. So it's to capture that the top of the K is never going to approach the middle class again, which is going to remain enormously elevated from the very bottom who are struggling a lot. So this is like a new kind of way of describing it. Yeah, so now we've got the stratification has expanded. it it's not that um that the middle class is going to be coming along with the top of the economy yeah i yeah yeah that's that's not bad i still think k-shaped is a better descriptor for most people but it's uh the k-shaped i think better shows the divergence yeah yeah yeah but that is interesting uh what else is interesting in finance is that mr beast finally been waiting for this bought a banking app now i can finally do real banking beast industries mr beast company has acquired Step, which has apparently 7 million users, a financial services app for teens and young adults that has banking services provided by Step's banking partner, Evolve Bank & Trust.

2:22:11This follows Mr. Beast's announcement of a new YouTube channel focused on personal finance and investing. Packed by his own bank. That's cool. Other ventures include ghost restaurants, feastables, and 10 trillion other things. First move into financial services, which feels like he's employing a strategy to continue to monetize his audience as they age, moving from snacks into savings. Although, you know, people definitely still buy snacks when they're older. Discussion question. Given the recent rash of influencer-hyped mean coin rug pulls, I don't think that's recent. Do you think this is more of the same, another grift, or a sound business model such a strategy for Beast Industries?

2:22:49I suspect it will be a legitimate bank and I suspect it will be a legitimate bank that gets a lot of its customers through insane marketing from his financial channel And it will be more successful than it should be because of that. I Think it's boring. I think it's a pretty sound business decision. I think that I mean, I said years ago that he'd be the first YouTube billionaire. I think he is he's passed it now, right? No idea, but he might as well be I don't know I haven't had like a chat with him in a long time um when he was younger though I can I can say that he seemed to mostly have his heart in the right place even if not every even if I like wouldn't agree with every decision that he made and he did some things that I think were ill-advised um i would like to hopefully believe that he would find a way to make his bank you know not predatory or whatever but i um i've also seen beast endeavors that have been kind of running seemingly pretty independently and he seems like he's stretched really thin like between the content and feastables and i i would and have bought yeah uh you know i've bought youtuber shirts i've bought a wide variety of different youtuber merch things have supported youtubers on patreon and float plane and and whatnot um i think it's really cool that there's youtuber creator candy i haven't bought any of it but i totally would um i think i'm good doing my banking with some boring people boring really boring suited people ideally like as boring as possible really like i want to walk in and immediately want to yawn and just be bored and then walk out with a bank account that works.

2:24:52I think that's what I want them to do personally. This is not financial advice, but... Yeah, I do that my bank is boring. Furry Tech Nerd says, not going to lie, Feastables taste like trash. Well, the original ones were actually really good. They were pretty high cocoa content. They were actually pretty good quality chocolate. And then they re-formulated them to be more appealing to the average Mr. Beast viewer. And also they're probably cheaper to make now. So now they taste a lot more like the chocolate on a Kit Kat or whatever. But the early ones were actually pretty good. Like if you like quality chocolate that is high in cocoa.

2:25:33My kids, I had like some really nice Swiss chocolate that was like 65 or 70 % cocoa or something like that. and I was treating myself to like an after dinner just piece of chocolate and they were like, oh, what's that? That doesn't look like the chocolate we've had before. I'm like, oh, this is chocolate. They're like, well, yeah, but I'm like, no, no, but this is chocolate. And they tried it. I was actually surprised that they all liked it. I think I probably put my thumb on the scale a little bit by giving them extremely small pieces because the bitterness can be not that appealing to a younger palate.

2:26:13But they all really liked it. And I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, well, it's really expensive. So we're not going to have it in the house very often. But yeah, that's chocolate. It's really good. People are saying it's technically not a bank. It's just a fintech company that is backed by a bank. Sounds like it needs to exist even less. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just supremely not interested. and maybe somebody will be, but this ain't for me.

2:26:48Cool. Hey, that's it for topics. It's a finance app aimed at Gen Z and Gen Alpha people. Like you're just slowly doing the reverse of winning me over. So anyways, not for me. I won't be engaging. Not financial advice. Do what the hell you want. See you later. After Dark? Is it After Dark? It's After Dark? I think it's after dark. I mean, it's clearly after dark. Oh, actually, there's lights on outside. It's not that clearly after dark. It's definitely after dark. Oh, that's why there's lights on outside. Nice. Solid. All right. I don't have too many for you here. Luke, Dan, and Linus, has there ever been an item bought for an AMD upgrade where you were like, I could use that, and eventually bought it?

2:27:35Also, Flowblending exclusives are too good lately. Sammy, tone it back. No. I am not in the dashboard, and I usually don't actually listen to you. I read along because I process information better that way. I need to log into the dashboard right now. Yeah, that's why I read them so that you can read it. Yeah, I will DM them to you. Do you want us to go through it again? That's probably two behind the curtain for a float plane chat. Has there ever been an item bought on an AMD upgrade where you thought that you could use it and eventually bought one. Oh. Oh, man. Uh... Hold on. Phil Record? Is this going to work?

2:28:22Nice. Okay, I'm in. I hacked the mainframe. Grills. Linus has grills now. Okay, very funny. He only wears them off camera. You got into it? Oh, I thought you were making fun of my braces. No, but I should have. They are the right color.

2:28:45got him i'm sorry i'm so sorry i missed that because i was trying to think that's okay i liked it enough you didn't even need to laugh i enjoyed it um i was pretty tempted by the live laugh leow neon sign but i i just i couldn't spend money on that like i i'd love to have one but I wouldn't love to buy it. Yeah. That was pretty rough. There's so many things I would love to have for free. That is very, I like that. That's good. Yeah. Linus town. You know what? I would be, I would, I would be tempted. I would have been tempted to pick up some of like the cool bike stickers that Andrew had in his first motorbike.

2:29:26But then I painted my bike. Let's see. What else we got? Man, I don't know. It's funny because other than my tech junk, I actually don't like having a lot of clutter. I'm like such a millennial gray, don't have extra stuff anywhere person.

2:29:53No. No, I actually haven't really found much that I've been that interested in. Surprise, surprise. Neither. although I do think that a lot of the purchases that people have made are cool and suit them hold on, no, that might have been a bit of a lie because I wasn't dailying an OLED when the first person went OLED for their gaming machine, I don't think and I think I went OLED shortly after that is that why though? I mean, I guess the thing for me is that I'm already aware of most stuff tech wise before I see it on an AMD upgrade. And a lot of the non-tech stuff is people's own hobbies and their own interests, which I don't necessarily share because my main hobby is running a business because if it isn't, then your business isn't really likely to be very successful.

2:30:46Unless you are really, really, really, really, really good at it and you can run your own business in 40 hours a week, which is like, wow, that's cool. Especially in the early days. Like, wow, good job. Up next. i have had the joy of running a stem camp for kids of all ages recently oh that's cool i'm constantly looking for cool experience experiments or activities in tech for it do you have any suggestions for a cool stem activity

2:31:21fractions i really liked making like catapults and stuff trebuchet yeah trebuchet it was really fun and you can like get them to try to do the math before every shot of like where it's gonna land um like i like actually tie in like actual learning objectives don't just do the fun part this one must launch it reward the yeah reward the i did the math stuff with thing get thrown and go bang and that's cool here's your projectile it has to go exactly 200 feet. Yeah. Math, please. This may be beyond the scope and is honestly just because I've had to have this conversation a lot of times recently with my kids, but I'd love it if you did a little thing on like adhesives and help them understand, you know, how they function and why some of them work for some things and don't work for other things.

2:32:14Just explaining super glue at all. Yeah. Like my kids keep trying to use hot glue on 3D prints and I keep having to explain that. no in fact you can't do that um unless depending on the filament maybe you can but um it's really not optimal for what they were trying to do and it's just the kind of thing that i think we don't really get like taught i like i don't remember ever being taught anything to do with yeah with adhesives and solvents and stuff like that i don't know yeah this might be more the older kids but it's just something that's on my mind because i've had to talk about it a little bit lately hey dll i'm making my way through tactics on tactician how many levels ahead of story battles did you usually have to be towards the end i didn't keep track i just uh i just played the game and tried to win and i would i i don't i don't think i i don't think i ground much i think i skipped almost every random encounter which might explain why i was oh oh wait well hold on hold on hold on okay i'm a bit of a completionist when it comes to abilities though so i would just like hide in a corner and like hit my own guys and stuff to get abilities and then i would end up really over leveled so i don't know i'm i'm a mess they completely ignore me in my and my strategies last one i've got for you today good evening when wook and whinus i'm writing from the future as I am visiting Japan.

2:33:43Have any of you been to the Tohoku area? And if so, where should I visit if I get the chance? I'm currently in Sendai. I don't think I've ever been there, but if I had, I wouldn't know because the way that I travel for work is I get on the plane and then I arrive wherever it is that I am. And then I open up an app or a cab or whatever it is that I do. And I go to whatever hotel I'm supposed to go to. and then in the morning I go to whatever factory tour or thing that I'm supposed to do is, and then I go home. And so I don't really know where I am sometimes because it doesn't really matter. Sorry.

2:34:27Eleanor says, visit the Ghibli Museum, though. That sounds amazing. I'd love to go to a Ghibli Museum. Yeah.

2:34:35Cool. That's it? Is that it for today? Wow. Okay. You didn't curate many. We had a lot of merch messages today, but I guess... Not too many questions. Oh, wow. How about that? Well, you guys all... Noki says, I'm working on this to help with your wiki page. What is this? Oh, wow. Whoa, a whole history of like float plane, closed beta, alpha phase, domain announcement. Okay. The real trick though, Noki, is you've got to find other people talking about it. It can't be first party. This is actually pretty good. Yeah. This has some information that most people don't know. Yeah. Luke has done a lot of cool stuff.

2:35:21Let's get him a wiki page. He should have one. I don't think it makes sense. The most important Lafreniere. I mean, what was the other one? A hockey player? Yeah. A pretty big deal one. Yeah. Does he have a float plane? No. No, but he has a jersey. My dad has one of his jerseys. It's kind of cool to have an official jersey without the custom name on the back. It's actually just an official jersey, and it is also your last name. It's pretty sick. That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. I kind of want one, but their jerseys are really expensive. Oh, yeah, dude. They're so expensive. All right. I think that's it.

2:35:56I'll have to get back to my family vacation. It looks so dope, though. Oh, my God. Maybe one day. See you guys next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Bye. A sweater, yeah, sorry. Oh, sorry, sorry. Got him. They're not wrong. Yeah, they're not wrong.