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WAN Show Summary - DLSS 5 Is Great (March 20, 2026)

Episode Overview In this episode of The WAN Show, Linus and Luke provide insights on the latest happenings in the tech universe, including the introduction of NVIDIA's DLSS 5, updates from AMD, and other technology news. The discussion also features a surprise guest, Riley Murlock, and covers various topics surrounding gaming, technology advancements, and personal anecdotes.

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0:28This episode is brought to you by Nordstrom.

0:38What is up everyone? Happy Friday and welcome to the WAN show. Boy, do we ever have a great show lined up for you guys this week. And I don't often get to say that just completely unironically. I get to have my first hands-on experience with the MacBook Neo, which I haven't touched yet but I see they left on set for me to check out is why I assume that that's there I'm actually legitimately super excited for that I was hoping you knew, they told me to bring it there's the big DLSS 5 news this week, we'll be talking through that we've also got a special guest who will be joining us for that segment the one, the only Mr.

1:20Riley Murlock they're coming? no, you don't come in yet, later stay there, just stay there what else do we have for topics this week got some big updates on Riley Murloc it's an inside joke you often do that do you do that yeah quite often I actually don't remember the exact origin of Riley Murloc did I misspeak it was a Warcraft reference I just don't remember why stay on topic Linus thanks Riley what else we got this week uh windows recall was cracked again which is so exciting for me personally i really like that i think that's really good i think that's good for everybody genuinely i'm actually not even memeing uh also what else happened you know what i was going through the topics and i noticed it's kind of a good news wine show is it kind of accidentally Yeah, yeah.

2:21Find another good one. Find another good one. He's gonna find one. He's gonna find one. Wait for it. What? There's a lot of really weird topics. Oh, that's not a good topic. I highlighted a good one. Steve Wozniak saw the LTT Core Master Remote video and liked it. How cool is that? That's awesome. I heard that we like knew someone who knew someone who knew someone who knew him or something. I didn't know he saw the video. Oh, I saw his quote. I'm not gonna say it.

3:11The show is brought to you today by Vessi, Factor Meals, Zero Bounce, and AMD. alongside, of course, our wrap partner, Dbrand, our laptop partner, Razer, and our chair partner, also Razer, whose logo I so, whoops, covered up. There you go, that's better. Sorry, Razer, got that fixed for you. I should have cut it off.

3:33Let's jump right into our headline topic today, which is, of course, DLSS 5. Now, Riley, I'm going to invite you on in just a moment here. No, I want to... Sit down! In a moment, in a moment. i'm gonna go through the doc and then riley specifically like with all the aggressiveness of that uncle that you see every once in a while but appreciate hearing from just invited himself to come in and talk about this on the show because he has a take to share with the world and tech linked was not enough to contain his take so we're going to talk about it on wan show but first let's get through this during the keynote of nvidia's gtc event on monday ceo jensen huang unveiled nvidia's dlss 5 calling it this is a direct quote the company's most significant breakthrough in computer graphics since the debut of real-time ray tracing in 2018 while nvidia says that the tech infuses pixels with photorealistic lighting and materials many observers have criticized the handful of demos saying that dlss seems like nothing more than an ai slop filter uh what what did what did what do people call it yassifying faces i think so is that is that the term yeah i love it and anyway the demos spawned a tidal wave of dlss 5 memes which escaped containment to the point where domino's pizza in the uk joined in And I have a hyperlink to this, so I feel like it's important for me to click it.

5:20Solid. Thank you. Thank you, Dominoes. That is legitimately helpful and advances the conversation. NVIDIA quickly pinned a comment on one of the demo videos, clarifying that it is not a filter. and in a q a following the keynote jensen called these critiques direct quote completely wrong saying it's not post-processing at the frame level it is generative control at the geometry level this seems to conflict with answers provided by nvidia's jacob freeman to questions that he was sent by youtuber daniel owen um good old jacob uh jacob confirmed that dlss 5 only takes the rendered 2D frame plus motion vectors as input.

6:10Owen specifically asks if the model is actually aware of things like 3D geometry, 3D depth, etc. And Freeman replies saying DLSS 5, again quote, is trained end-to-end to understand complex scene semantics. NVIDIA says DLSS 5 will launch this fall. They revealed the live demos were running on two rtx 5090s one to run the game the other to run dlss 5 and while some press has reported that nvidia does have a version of the tech running on a single gpu it is unclear at launch what kind of gpu it will have to be in order to run dlss 5 and also like you know a game and stuff riley Come on on and let's talk About DLSS 5 Whether you want me or not I'm crashing this show He's in here, the one and only Riley Murlock everyone You had no idea I was coming To be here I totally knew you were coming You invited yourself here Oh my god, he's holding the mic Dan, please have his mic off right now It's fine Hi everyone, I'm happy to join the show So much worse That sounds good actually Because it's a good mic all right Riley so hit us with the hit us with the take that you were so desperate to bring to the WEN show why do I give my take first I thought what about your take no no I wanted to hear yours well I think that so I added in this stuff about who's saying what hello you're talking I added in this stuff about Daniel Owen posted this video I think yesterday or the day before and that was just very interesting because I think the main, the main, the key problem in a lot of this is the definition of the word filter.

8:05But also, as I wrote in the discussion question, I think that this issue illustrates a fundamental divide or it brings up a fundamental question. Like, do we care about games? I like it. You're both are like looking at me like this. This is fun. Well, I want to hear your take. Yeah, for sure. But like, I need, I feel like I need to move farther back so that it's more uh do we care about games as like a simulation or do we just want our games to be to look as pretty as possible like is there some value to the the nature of the game as a like hard-fought technical achievement simulating a universe or are we looking just for pretty games you know i think that uh there's there's that's there's that there's more too well i mean for my my initial response to that is that gamers are not a monolithic entity yeah right so so any question even sort of start even any question that even starts with do gamers want is already going to create fragmentation within the community for sure because every single gamer is going to want completely different things and even speaking for myself the things that i want out of one game are not necessarily the things that i want out of another game for sure when i fire up my nintendo switch i actually don't want to see every pore on mario's giant chris pratt voice knows that that's that's not desirable to me for for that cinematic universe so to speak the mario nipples shot was enough yeah need any more of that exactly so but but on the other hand you know if i were to think back to a game that i played that i felt really immersed in in a in a realistic world and this is a deep cut but freelancer was was a game that i really enjoyed back in the early 2000s and it was about like exploring the known universe if you told me that there was a mod pack like a texture pack slash asset pack that could take that game and i could replay that game in photorealistic quality and all i needed was like a modern gpu yeah i'd be really excited about that and then i think you've got a subset of those people that are really excited to experience their game with a fresh shiny coat of paint on it that are going to go oh what so we used ai to achieve that who the fuck cares bring it on for sure and so you've got many different camps i probably haven't even scratched the surface of all the different perspectives you could have on it but i i felt i feel like you had a little bit more you were going to expand on after i answered your question no i mean that's all super super interesting i think that that is a core part of the issue here is that like some people just want uh pretty games and other people are like really really concerned about the like how it's being achieved and how it's being presented i mean i know that you wanted to talk about uh nvidia uh putting this forward as dlss5 let's get to that later okay let's get to that one later okay sure sure i think for me like obviously there's the initial reaction of like the look because like the environments i think it i think anyone who's being honest can look at the dlss 5 on versus off demos and recognize that in many cases it's making the environments look really good it's making them look like a photo taken that is that is an under discussed aspect of this point i think people are really focused on the characters and that makes sense because you know if you were to tell if you were to ask me what do i love about one of my favorite games final fantasy 6 what do i love about it i i i don't i don't love the quality of the overworld okay it doesn't look great graphically but i but i love the characters and so if you were gonna go and you were gonna make the overworld look way more realistic, okay, maybe a pixel art sprite game is a bad example, but in general, if you're going to make an environment look more realistic, more true to life, but you're going to mess with a character that I connected with in some way, that's going to offend me.

12:48That's going to affect me a lot more than if you made the vine that Tarzan is swinging on look way more viney. I think that's my biggest problem with it, is that like better graphics aren't always better in my opinion um and we're talking about art styles and things like that and a lot of the styles in the video in the like announcement video are pretty similar they're all trying to go for like decently high realism in some cases 100 % realism like the the football club one yeah or like if you're playing like indiana jones in the great circle or something like that and you told me yeah i can make this more realistic i'd be like the whole the whole shtick of this game is that you are indie and you're in an indiana jones film but there are a ton of games where if you made the graphics better i'd probably think it was worse and putting all of the creative control of that into your your your gpu's vibe check is how to train your dragon how to train your dragon hidden world is actually a film example of that that i found kind of unsettling to watch because i've got these cartoon characters walking around in environments that look so photorealistic that i actually found it kind of immersion breaking i think i think the insane success of pocopia is a good example of this actually it's like not a like this this is not we're not pushing graphic engines to run this game you know this is this This is not crushing your 50-90.

14:24But people love the game. I think this is what... I'm hearing you guys talk about the look of the game a lot and how pretty it is. And this is why I wanted to bring up the discussion point of, like, do we care at all that we're making the frame that we're served prettier? But it is essentially... And, like, you know, to come back to the filter thing, yeah it's essentially i view that as a filter i a lot of people a lot of like more graphically technically uh technically oriented people i feel like people who know a lot of technical details about graphics are seeing people call it a slop filter and are like it's not a filter it's obviously not a filter but i think what people on the other side are uh there's two definitions there's two operative definitions of the word filter going on here i think there's the filter of like instagram where it's basically the photo and you're overlaying essentially yeah you're you're changing some color information but it's the same image uh and then but i think a lot of people who are calling this an ai slot filter are thinking of a filter as something that does not have access to the underlying facts of the game world it doesn't know the data that is being input by the developers it doesn't know the complete shape of those 3d objects that it sees It's a 2D frame that is being fed into a model and it's outputting an image.

15:48That is altered. So it's altered, which is what we mean by filtering. There is one particular example that Daniel Owen does a lot in his video. I encourage you guys to watch Daniel Owen's video. It's super interesting. Yeah, Dan, maybe you could throw that in the chat for us. Yeah. It's linked in the doc. The side of the guy's head in Starfield has no hair. And then in the DLSS 5 On version, there's hair there. So it's like changing. And this is why it's so interesting to me, because I'm like, we're no longer simulating the world at that point. Luke, can you bring Potokia? Can you bring that back?

16:25Potokia. Can you bring that back up for me for a second? Okay. So the first thing that I thought when I was looking at this, you know, you brought this up and I went, yeah. what a clear example of an art style where i wouldn't want my snorlax to be covered in photorealistic fur and and look like an actual you know like weird fat cat thing lying in the middle of the path okay i would put it put it yeah i want that's exactly where i was going to go with this put that away give me gross snorlax put it away get it out of here here's an alternate it take what if my worldview and my preference is not the be-all and end-all well it's it's the what if the company making the game well hold on hold on well is it because because the i mean look every every every game i shouldn't say every game with a nude mod because some of them they clearly meant for people to put them in but every game that has a nude mod right they didn't necessarily intend for them to be x-rated clearly and yet no gamers have ultimately decided by and large over the course of gaming history that they're in charge of how they play their game if they want to play the mission the way that the game developer intended then that's by all means they're right and if they want to completely not play the mission and play a completely different style that's there there's there's more genres i think that's still a problem with the lss5 though hold on hold on i'm going somewhere with this there's more genres of playing the game a way that it wasn't intended by the developer than there are ways that the developer intended to play the game right like you talk about like speed running or uh you know um you know not losing health or you know whatever challenges people might set for themselves right exactly so with that in mind if I decided whether it was through a meticulously handcrafted mod pack or whether it was through a slop filter that I I as a gamer didn't care about the artist's original vision of the game and I wanted to run it some way that I feel like running it I don't feel that way I don't want my Snorlax to have fur but if Riley wanted his Snorlax to have fur and there was some AI slop tool available to him that let him do that or you know enlarge tifa's boobs or whatever then i don't go ahead i don't think people are taking issue with this type of thing existing i think a lot of people are well sure but but i think i'm actually with riley i think that really i think that that isn't the exist you might have a lot of people saying oh that shouldn't exist or whatever but i think that the massive outcry that the nature of this particular backlash is more related to the fact that nvidia is doing it and nvidia isn't just some company yes they have 95 market share of gaming gpus yes and they have in the very in the past many times uh you know uh what do you call it they talk all the time to play ball yes they talk all the time about how they set the direction for gaming graphics they they have spent a lot of the last months bragging about how they are the ones that effectively invented modern computer graphics.

19:48This is what they're saying. So if they're pushing DLSS 5 and they're talking about how they're working with developers and publishers and the companies, not as much as the developers but still, right now this is them trying to push a market direction. This isn't them... I'm agreeing with what you're saying. We were going to say effectively the same thing. If some random company was like this tool exists, I think there'd be some people being like, huh, that's dumb. and not really caring but the fact that it's dlss5 it's nvidia yeah nvidia kind of sets the sets the tone sets the messaging and often sets the direction that's concerning i just want to i want to get in there though that i i like to the point of like to the point that some people might be okay with a a tool like this existing like i think that if it came out that some indie dev made a version of this that you could like throw into OptiScaler or whatever, like use it with one of the open source tools and people started doing that, I think that it might grow and people might start using it and it's like, okay you know, there's still heavy pushback against AI but I think that if it's giving you like such a big boost and especially in some games that don't have the resources to dump into like heavy graphics, like maybe that would be, there's a So I'm saying the thing in itself is it's problematic because of the whole AI connection, but it's not a crazy idea.

21:19So to the point that you just made, I think that's one of those ones where depending on who you talk to, you'll hear it spun a completely different way. So the way you just spun it was if you can dramatically improve the fidelity of a game where they didn't have the resources to make it look really good, you know, that's an argument. if i were to give the other side of that argument coin it would be this is just a way of enabling either a uh game devs to be lazy and if you have that take go yourself because that's that's like not valid um relax uh or be more realistically publishers and studios to employ fewer game developers and fewer artists to make their games which is realistically what we're talking about like yes any industry is going to have a handful of just like lazy people who don't feel like doing their jobs but when you look at the kind of attrition that the game development industry has gone through over the last as long as it's existed it's been it's been a difficult industry to be part of i think for you to point at the individual workers who are working on these games and say oh this is just a tool to enable them to be lazy is just such a brain dead take that i just i can't really entertain a conversation with you um so the other side of that coin then would be so on the one side you go oh if this could be a tool so that's the positive take this could be a tool for enabling better visual fidelity in games that otherwise wouldn't have had the resources for it other side of that take is our corporate overlords who already launch a wildly successful game and then proceed to lay off half the team are going to have even more at their disposal to hire few developers and artists in order to create more slop for us to consume and how do we how do we reconcile those because both are true i and i i have to say now i have to say now that like we have talked a lot about how it increased like it does dlss 5 does increase the realism of the the image like in one image it looks like a video game and in the next image it looks like well a more realistic video it looks it looks more more realistic but i would say that it goes past like if on one side of the spectrum it's like fake video game look and on the other side of the spectrum it's uh photorealism like it looks like real life the dlss 5 goes way past that into hyper real look like the contrast is high the saturation is high there the lighting is very global like hdr kind of yeah yeah it's a screen space type of effect so it only has access to what is on screen so it can't simulate i mean the engine is supposed to be simulating the lighting in the same way but you can see in these demos we i don't think we've shown a demo on screen yet but i'm sure everyone's seen them a million times by now um you can see in the demos that the lighting is made much, it's just, there's so much more lighting everywhere.

24:29It's like they took this like big giant studio light and put it in front of the person. And I think that that is something that is very, very concerning from both an artistic intent perspective because what happened to simulating things, what happened to giving developers tools in order to like, they want to light a scene a certain way and they will have tools, but from the artistic perspective and also from the simulation perspective like we're just it doesn't look good to me it looks like a slop can i show do we want to show this on screen hold on first on the characters yeah yeah sure i do want to address that nvidia has said and let's take this for what it is it is nvidia's marketing for a technology that they wish the industry to adopt because it will make gamers and the entire industry more dependent on their products they sell so let's let's take this for what it is but nvidia has said that game developers will have the tools to control how dlss 5 is implemented within their game so how do we reconcile that and everything else that we've talked about so far well we have so we have details about what those controls will be uh actually in uh that in daniel owns video i don't think there's a screenshot but uh uh i looked at it um i watched the video good video go watch the video um he's just reiterating actually things that nvidia has put in their press releases they'll uh developers have access to the intensity of effect of the effect so there'll be kind of like a slider where they can turn it up and down they'll be able to mask off areas of this of the scene of the frame so Like this character, I don't want it to enhance this character.

26:17I don't want it to enhance that thing over there. Right. And they will have some controls of like color grading. So like they'll be able to say, all right. Literal filter. Boost this. Yeah. Like filter type stuff. Okay. But they won't be able to like customize it beyond that in terms of like, oh, do it in this style. I mean, maybe they were. I'm saying right now that's what the controls sound like. It's coming out in the fall. There's still time. And I think, to be fair, I think the backlash to this is overblown for something that is not out yet. Like, and I don't want to say, because I've said many times, I've criticized it many times already on TechLink, now here.

27:00But I do think that this was a massive overreaction. overreaction and uh there are people on the anti-dlss5 slide that are like losing their minds in a way that does not behoove them uh so we have to we have to keep in mind that it is coming out in the fall they're going to be developing it more we don't have the hardware requirements i have a quick question for you riley yeah are you new i know i'm sorry i'm supposed to be sorry game i Did you say gamers overreacted? Well, hold on. I might have overreacted when I said that. I do play video games. We've got a couple more discussion topics on this, or discussion questions.

27:43One from Avianz is, actually, let's do the one from LaFour first. I became a subscriber just to send this, says LaFour. Wow. Nobody seems to be mentioning that this technology could go the other way. I could take a realistic game and, you know, maybe not with DLSS 5, but DLSS 6.9, say, for instance. I could take a realistic game and make it look like a cartoon. And they didn't say, oh, I think, you know, that would be really cool. I would enjoy that. But the implication, given that they're already kind of looking at this and going, here's a tool. here's what it does today here's what it could do tomorrow would seem to suggest to me that they could be excited about a functionality like that what if you could play cartoon freelancer and photorealistic uh pokemon again i don't think anyone would have i mean beyond all the concerns about ai like at default concerns yeah copyright in general all that stuff um i don't think anyone would have i don't think anyone has a problem with the fundamental idea of a gamer choosing to you know basically run a mod on on their game you know i don't think anyone is is super super concerned about that i think they are concerned about a nvidia pushing this and b pushing this as dlss 5 like it's not they're not saying this is a feature of dlss 5 they're saying this is dlss DLSS5.

29:18It went from upscaling to, you know, they were changing like denoising. There was like ray reconstruction and stuff. And now the DLSS5 is this whole suite of features. And instead of saying, hey, we made upscaling even better or something, more multi-frame gen or whatever, we're saying, we took multi-frame gen and put it onto the first frame. So now all of the frames are genned. It's like, is that DLSS5 at that point? I wish they called it something else. i mean i guess my biggest question right now to to your point about the overreaction because i i actually i see the overreaction both ways on the one hand i actually see people's reaction as a completely justified reaction given again nvidia's weight in the industry like i've been i've been more trying to moderate the conversation rather than necessarily present my own take up till now Do it.

30:13Hot take. I see it as a somewhat reasonable reaction in it, looking at sort of the industry dynamics around job loss and constrained resources in game development at the same time that the gaming industry is overall making more money than ever. I see these as actually like fundamental, huge, enormous problems. And NVIDIA's weight as a player in the industry and their ability to set the course for game development is a major concern. oh absolutely however over on the other side i go yeah but how is any of this a surprise nvidia telegraphed this ages ago right right they they literally when they got up on stage and announced was it uh was it 50 series or was it i think it was 50 series they they talked about neural rendering oh sure yeah what did we think that meant well this is interesting it meant this Well, at the time, it meant neural rendering of textures, like having discrete elements within this fully simulated rendered world that use machine learning or generated AI even to help you generate textures and stuff.

31:28I know that that's a core. That was not my interpretation at all. Okay. Well, that was the demo that they did when they first mentioned neural rendering. I mean, they had the faces thing last year. Maybe this was me just like skipping a step, but like what I interpreted that as, as remember that MS Paint demo that NVIDIA did like, must be like 10 years ago now. Do you remember the one Luke where they had like an MS Paint grade drawing and then basically Oh yeah. Blaster. Sorry? The paint blaster thing. Paint blaster. No, we're talking about different things. Cool. so they had like this ms paint grade like doodle and then basically like ai did yeah and it turned it into like a photorealistic scene yeah there's been a bunch of demos of that like nvidia had one a few like even before chat gpt and nvidia has been like crystal clear for for years now that the path to to better and i say better with huge quotation marks here because you know back to Mario, you know, more realistic does not necessarily mean better.

32:32But I think from NVIDIA's point of view, if you want to sell more graphics cards, right, more photorealistic, more true to life, more true to, not even in just the visual sense, but also the simulation sense, more true to life in the physics and the visuals of the scene is better from NVIDIA's standpoint. um and so it's been pretty clear to me that they have been saying for years now the only path to better because moore's law is dead moore's law is dead and buried is going to be alternatives to traditional rasterized rendering and obviously the future drum that they keep beating is that it's going to be generative ai yeah and so to me it was just pretty obvious that that was what we were going to get we were going to get developers going here's the texture in the game will functionally just be a white a blue a blue piece of paper that just has ocean written on it i think that i think that to your point the reaction is a bit overblown given that it's like this is obvious like this is an obvious endpoint for for ai and the way that hardware has been going um i think that the reaction is so strong because uh you know again nvidia called a dls dls5 but also to the other thing you said earlier which is that the state of the industry right now like it just doesn't feel good this very much feels like a you will own nothing and be happy situation where it's like yeah okay our hardware can't really run games anymore and you can't even buy it actually because everything's so expensive uh hold on but hold on don't worry use ai i gotta i gotta jump in there yourself to give yourself psychosis and think that it's good graphics okay but i gotta jump in there for a second because i just two weeks ago played cyberpunk 2077 on a 3060 and were some of my were some of the the detail that i was seeing upscaled using dlss yes but i very much owned that gpu and it very much rendered that game in a way that made me happier than if it didn't have dlss yeah but you're talking about just upscaling yeah but we're talking about this isn't just upscaling it's it's changing it's changing what is being displayed to you well part of what dlss 5 is going to do is also going to be upscaling it's it's an entire suite of features i don't think it even needs to upscale anymore it's just replacing the whole frame but i guess what my question is is if it's using hardware that i have in my computer how is it you'll own nothing and be happy because i definitely still own that 3060 and it's not bothering me the software i might not own the software i'm but i mean that ship sailed years ago oh this is a good this is an interesting point no like like you will still need side of it you'll still need well and yeah we're going towards a situation where hardware you can't afford hardware so everything is going to be a cloud subscription basically uh but well okay that that will the fact that it's running on 250 90s right now is is a cause for concern sure um but i guess i guess but i'm assuming we're assuming that they will get it running on a single gpu and then yeah you'll be running it on your hardware still i'm operating in good faith for now until i see anything otherwise right that nvidia actually does intend for this to operate on hardware that i own and And up until now, I mean, I was really impressed.

36:08I think the 3060 runs Cyberpunk better today than it ever did. And I thought that was really cool. It was part of, no, it was longer than a couple weeks ago. It was when we did the Brazil PC, because that was what our pretty good Brazil PC had. And that's cool, because they might be putting those back into production and stuff like that. What I'm saying is, what if you have to, yeah, someone in the chat's getting what I'm putting down. Give her in. What I'm saying is, what if you have to subscribe to a certain level of DLSS? And that's where we could be running into serious trouble because if NVIDIA gets us hooked on the suites.

36:44And yeah, I mean, the first character replace that they do.

36:51There's like every comment on Reddit is like, oh my God, the first thing that they show is they give her like plumper lips and stuff like that. And it's like, okay, that's I mean, that's another weird thing. like when i was talking earlier about you're putting artistic control into like a hardware company's hands is like yeah you're also putting like beauty standards into like jensen's hands well you're putting it into the the ai model that nvidia engineers create trained on whatever data is going into it i mean and there's so much there's so much mystery meat uh that goes into training these ai models i think that the the the fact that so much of the criticism was based around the ai slop look uh is very very interesting to me because there is an ai slop look yeah like and it feels like it and and it's funny because once the ai once the filter goes off i'm looking at it again it's like if you gave me that that that photo and was like this is a real guy here and it's like a very stylish that one's very obvious but like the leon one the leon one for me just stay there it's like if you if you told me okay this is a moody still from a movie i'm working on and this is a guy it's like okay i could believe that's a guy this one doesn't look too bad but i think that the lighting is very low and there's a there's a lot of things in its favor I think in general, the AI slop look is people are having an issue with it because it represents the homogenized mean.

38:34It's the average of all images. Totally. And the extremes that make visuals and aesthetics and all kinds of human expression interesting. Looks like Brendan Fraser a little bit. One of my things is like this feels like cool. Okay, if we could make every man look more like Brendan Fraser, though, I would do that immediately. Hear me out. Hear me out, Brendan Fraser. This, to me, feels like cool video game. And this, hold on, cool video game, B-movie. Immediately. Yes, yes. And I completely agree with your, like... But the hair looks so good. The hair looks realistic. But, I mean, what... Okay, now I'm flipping.

39:17Now I'm on the other side. what can we expect what can we expect from games other than just at best B-movie graphics you know like looking like a realistic B-movie no I think there's a style like this one as well I had this feeling here as well this feels this feels like cool video game and then it catches up and now this feels like a different game see I feel like this example feels especially egregious because i i'm not a resident evil fan maybe maybe like you know i'm just not familiar with it as much but i feel like the the raw image looked pretty bad like i and i'm sorry like that looks that looks like a ps you know something three game maybe okay i think that's probably your nostalgia glasses the ps3 did not look okay i didn't have a ps3 so i wouldn't know but but it looks kind of bad and then it looks like too good it looks like hyper real to the point where it's like are we supposed to be you know i don't know here's the bottom line which i think is is going to be kind of scary and uncomfortable for people it's going to happen anyway the people having this conversation the people who are who are open to to to to discussing it um are ultimately not going to be the ones who are the people who care enough to talk about it are not going to be the ones that are dictating the direction this goes for sure like i read an ai slop novel and every night immediately my brain turns off i i i i just can't and a lot of gamers if you're uh if you're a discerning games as art hippie who you know loves the game for the sake of the game um you're gonna play an ai slop game with an ai slop filter on it and you're gonna have the same like gut reaction where your your brain's gonna turn off and you're just going to disengage from it.

41:33However, lowest common denominator, people are going to turn those filters on. I guarantee it. For sure. And I fully expect in five to 10 years, like if anyone finds this clip or any of the other discussions about this, they're going to be like, what were they freaking out about? That's so quaint. So quaint that they were so worried about that because everybody is going to be using AI filters on everything. I know that that's where we're going and you're going to be able to play as Spongebob or Optimus Prime in whatever you want at any time. But I think we'll have lost something in the same way that we have lost something by hooking crazily into social media instead of being more present in the physical world.

42:13I actually think that... Sorry, it doesn't change your overall point, which was really good. I'm actually pivoting a little bit. I think game devs would actually draw the line at NVIDIA creating a tool that allows you to substitute the main character for Spongebob or Optimus Prime because then they wouldn't be able to sell as many skins. Can you imagine Tim Sweeney's tweet if he couldn't sell like Peter Griffin skins for Fortnite anymore because people could just put their own Peter Griffin model into the game? I don't know. He'd probably be, I feel like he's super behind this. And also that, I mean, I don't want to put words in Tim Sweeney's mouth because you never know what's going to come out of it so you there's just no point guessing i do want to say that one thing i haven't said is that it is gen i feel like from a technical perspective it genuinely is impressive that this is apparently running in real time on 250 90s on 250 on one yeah on 150 90s just the image model and just 150 90 but i mean the scenes are pretty simple they are it's true it's a lot of static and in the soccer demo in particular it's like crazy motion is not you're talking about this without showing anybody I mean, they're not really going to show it.

43:23You have to go like frame by frame in that one. Period and comma. Go frame by frame on YouTube. Fun fact. But yeah, the soccer ball gets warped out of existence. And at one point, his arm disappears because it's moving fast. The fabric of his shirt is a mess with DLSS 5 on. There's also some other fabric issues. And this is one of my problems, too, is I think a lot of people are going to turn this on. Or it's just going to be on by default. And a ton of people never touch settings on anything. And then they won't necessarily know. And it's just gonna suck. Babies are gonna grow up playing Call of Duty with this on.

44:04Imagine those babies as adults. Don't even know how soccer balls work. They'll think they just do that. They'll be looking at the screens and they look at the re-wild and they're like, gross! Yeah. Where's the filter? Where's the shimmer? Reality sucks. Yeah. Reality's terrible. Anyway, Avions has a question for our discussion questions. Would you be fine with users watching your old content with an AI Yassify mode or AI Yassify filter? And I guess I don't care. If YouTube did that automatically, I'd be annoyed. That's the argument, in my opinion. with 95 market share and this being on by default for a lot of people and nvidia trying to push the direction of gaming and stuff like that it's it's being put on to people that's the core problem in my opinion if you if you have a browser add-on um that that makes me look like the thumbnail uh for wancho i don't actually personally care at all whatever dude um dan get on it but but if youtube is like no this is just how it works now um yeah that's weird i have a similar i feel like they wrote in their question i mean why but still i think yeah i think it's a matter of time by the way i mean look at look at youtube storage and bandwidth costs if they could serve 360p video and just count on that everyone's gonna have an npu in their client device like You know they're going to do it.

45:39We know. So that's bad, right? We don't want that. But I think this is why it's so interesting to me. Are there people out there who seem to only care about the output? And as long as the output is pretty according to their whatever, the lack of taste that they have where they're like, oh, the high contrast pretty girl. No offense to people who like high contrast pretty girls. That's your preference. But I feel like we're losing something because I think that we should have real pretty girls with low contrast. I like my women like I like my displays. High contrast and pretty. Oh, gosh. Okay. I think I have to go now.

46:20So that's like the first thing you send on Tinder. What's your contrast ratio? What an opening line. Can you turn the saturation up? All right. Thanks, Riley. Thank you. This was great. Thank you for joining us. Have a wonderful weekend. Hey, thanks for having me. I'm not your mother. I didn't. Nope. Okay. Yes. Oh! I think we can make it work. Bye! Bye. All right. Very cool. Wow. I was just reminded of the thing that I wanted to talk about as part of our next topic. Linux challenge update obviously you guys are going to get a lot of this stuff in video 2 part 2 whatever it is we're calling it I don't even know what the exact sort of ordering of all the various video things is going to be at this point but I had I think I'm I'm 99.9 % sure I'm allowed to disclose where I was I was in Japan visiting Sony.

47:32Okay, if that's all you say I'm sure it's fine. Well, no, that's not always fine but I'm like very sure that Sony said it's okay that I was to say that I was in Japan visiting Sony. I was there for something exciting. I think that's probably implied because I would not go all the way to Japan for something that's not exciting. But anyway, long story short, I needed to output an HDR video. And I needed something that I had licensing for. So, I used that test footage from our RE shoot, went back when we borrowed that camera to make a short circuit for like an RE cinema camera. And I realized I went to plug in my laptop and I went, oh, shit.

48:16I'm on Linux right now. This was cool. On Kubuntu with the amd drivers so i make no i make no promises for anything other than that getting hdr working was as simple as boop apply and then there was like a slider that honestly kind of limited my ability to get the best possible output don't worry about those details getting it working looking hdr af was that easy yeah as far as my understanding goes because because kubuntu kubuntu whatever is kde right yeah so kde as a bunch of people have said in flip plane chat has hdr support the reason why i initially cringed is some of them don't like i think cinnamon doesn't um which is one of the big criticisms that people put on that i just don't really watch HDR stuff so I don't really care.

49:18So that was really cool. I'm not sure. And then this is another one. This is another one that's really cool. There have been so many aspects of this challenge where I've gone into it going, oh my gosh, that is going to be a major challenge. Like for instance, you know, I'm running on a random laptop and I really do mean random laptop. This came out like a week ago. It uses Strix Halo. So super obscure hardware. Always a problem. Yeah, like using hardware that nobody, the number of times I've had people ask me over the years, like remember, I used to work at a computer store. I've had a lot of people ask me, what motherboard should I buy?

49:58My answer - Like the most common one. Almost always is whatever your socket is, however many dim slots you want, whatever form factor you want, whichever one is selling the most, because that's the one that the company is gonna have out there being tested by end users in as many edge cases as possible, and it's the one that they're going to have the most people shrieking at them if it's broken. So you buy that one, and you'll probably be fine. I did the opposite of that. I'm using the laptop that nobody is using. So you're asking for trouble in those situations. So I assumed that things like getting my keyboard backlighting working properly at all the various levels of brightness that it's supposed to work at might be a problem.

50:46I assumed that having my built-in display brightness slider working would be a problem. Not only does it work, but is that not the darkest freaking built-in display slider that you've ever seen? You can still see. The screen isn't actually black. The granularity of the control is so good compared to Windows. And the miracle of Linux is that somebody did that. somebody was like, you know what? Screens don't go dark enough. That's pretty f***ed up. And fixed it. They were probably that mad about it too. How cool is that? Yeah, that's cool. And then, and then, and then you go to do, you go to do some basic thing.

51:40And then it blows up. what's one of the things you did that it blew up on uh hold on hold on oh yeah yeah i couldn't get an xbox controller paired to it no matter how hard i tried i just i just couldn't get an xbox controller paired to it i've had some wi-fi interesting sorry i've had some wi-fi connectivity issues but i'm gonna blame that on amd's piece of garbage media tech wi-fi chip partnership because i've had a lot of wi-fi issues on stricts halo laptops on windows as well but yeah i could so i could get my uh i had a ghillie kit i brought two controllers with me on the trip i brought a ghillie kit because i knew that i could use it with both the switch and the computer and then i also brought an xbox controller so that i could play two player games on the computer so yvonne and i tried this new uh co-op dungeon crawler game while we were on the plane it was it was cool what's it called uh i saw that important i was just curious uh i'll know in a second because i'm just firing up sure uh but anyway i assumed i would be able to pair wirelessly the ghillie kit to either the switch or the computer and then the uh the xbox one to the to the computer so i could do either two players there or we could have lots of players on the switch too no matter what i did was not able to bluetooth pair that xbox controller now in fairness i haven't looked super deep into it yet so there probably is a solution somewhere but i was on a plane I didn't want to pay$30 for internet so I didn't have the solution at hand so I just had to plug in one controller and then I was able to pair the Gilly Kit over Bluetooth, my earphones over Bluetooth no problems, the Bluetooth works just not with an Xbox controller we were playing Bravery and Greed okay, I haven't heard of that it's pretty fun the tutorial is one of those game tutorials where they go okay, here's how to do this, now here's how to do this now here's how to do this, and here's how to do this and here's how to do this and here's how to do this okay go and the difficulty is just like you need to be able to do all of those things immediately um it's it's kind of like a roguelite anyway it's fun um i see i was i was and it's it's recorded because i was streaming but i uh i got a controller to pair instantly but it wasn't it was like the uh it was one of the ones from one of the roundups you guys did like a fly digi or a fly digi something yeah okay i don't remember what it was but that means that it had the dongle oh yeah crystal i plugged the dongle and it worked right away crystal oh yeah that would though yeah i know i know i'm just uh crystal asked does your touch screen work yep like the the number of things the touch screen working's pretty cool pretty wild right it's pretty cool like and then it and then it just like and then it just like falls on its face on like the simplest thing it's only the most common pc connected controller in the world yeah and i couldn't i couldn't connect it like okay yeah one of the um

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54:27how does it connect does windows have some like microsoft crap and the linux just doesn't have it by default uses bluetooth i mean they do but also i could just pair it to my phone if i wanted yeah like it totally works and like i can i can connect on steam os yeah rest assured says xbox uses the x input stuff from windows and there has to be a translation layer added uh i don't that should be after it connects though to map the controller or something wouldn't it be yeah yeah xbox controllers work fine on mac os and ios as well like it's it's a thing they they uh so you might be thinking of some of the older xbox controllers that were proprietary only for their wireless modern xbox controllers are you can just connect them as bluetooth i do believe they do show up as x input but um for steam games in particular uh steam will handle any kind of x input translation that you might need on whatever it is that you're doing and the fact that it wouldn't pair at all i'm not talking about i got it paired yeah and then the inputs were weird it would not pair so which makes me think it's not x input but yeah i um i have some some oh right one of my like custom challenges that i'm probably gonna end up doing i might have already said this i'm not sure uh but i'm planning i actually really like cinnamon i'm pretty comfortable with cinnamon but having been using mint on my laptop which i'm pointing here because my bag is here with my laptop in it um cinnamon feels better on mint and i'm wondering if i should probably just use kde which is what people expect you to use when you're running cache os so i'm going to try to live swap out my desktop environments nice i've tried that one just see how that goes i tried the removal part yeah yeah exactly so i'm going to see how that goes i think that'll be interesting to do um something that i did do was i decided that i wanted to continue my like five or six years long adventure of trying to 100 assassin's creed odyssey um my my knees have been feeling a little bit better so i was doing the treadmill walking thing and i was like i want to try to play a game using a controller while treadmill walking because that might be easier.

56:37And I tried to install, what is it even called now? Ubisoft Connect? Yeah, whatever it's called. Uplay. Yeah. I just call it Uplay. Sure, okay. It only exists as Uplay. I had a little bit of a hard time figuring out how to do it because I was searching for Uplay stuff and then realized that I was calling it the wrong thing. But sure, yeah, Uplay. And it was no problem to get Uplay installed, the Ubisoft Connect, whatever it is. It was no real problem to install the game. I clicked play. It didn't launch. I went off to go do other things. I haven't continued to try to troubleshoot. I gave it literally zero minutes of troubleshooting.

57:15It just didn't work immediately. That is the first thing at all that hasn't worked immediately. Mind Paradox says, I have one laptop running Linux that won't connect to an Xbox controller. The other running the same flavor of Linux will. No clue why. It probably comes down to the Bluetooth hardware and just some kind of weird edge case. another thing is that I have put also zero time into this but I have noticed there isn't enough of a symptom that I could like screen record it and prove it to anyone my brain's just detecting freaking ghosts or something I don't know but the computer just starts to kind of feel weird and then if I restart it it's fine so instead of sleeping my computer at night I've just started shutting it down and then I just turn it on in the morning.

58:04But if I sleep it at night and wake it back up, it just feels weird. And I don't have a good explanation for this. I don't know. It just feels odd. It feels like it's like maybe kind of slow or like, I don't know, but not slow enough that it like makes a ton of, like I can't record it and show it to you, but maybe I'm like maybe the menu opens a couple frames slower than it normally would or something like my brain can tell something's happening right I restart the computer I'm like ah okay it's it's like perfect now um but it is no problem if I just shut the computer down at night because it will for sure be fine for a whole day so like if I just shut the computer down instead of sleeping it it's no problem okay I tried just leaving it on yeah over the night instead of sleeping to figure out if it was sleep yeah no okay it was not just sleep so it has to be something to do with time my onboard audio stopped working randomly that's weird yeah uh and and you know what's funny is i have that in my open questions here onboard audio not working on my laptop when did this happen question mark question mark i feel like it was working at some point or was it like i'm i'm like gas lit about my onboard audio and i looked just now and it is showing up so So I almost wasn't able to...

59:26Have you been updating? I don't think I've updated since then. I almost wasn't able to do WAN show last week because if I had had to use my onboard audio with my mic, like just with my IEMs with the built-in inline mic, I wouldn't have had a working audio device because it just was not working. But because the Rode microphone that I bought had an audio device on it, I was able to use that. and then so I was really confused by that at the time because I thought it was working and then now I'm looking at it right now and I do have an audio device is it actually outputting anything though someone asked is it a really slow memory leak I don't know I opened the extent of the work I did on it was I opened btop and it didn't look like it oh this is not working so I have our stream there but not functioning i have our stream on i can see levels yeah oh wait wait what is that a mic what

1:00:56Oh no, no, it is from that. all that works perfectly i just am not getting any any audio output also on the on the mint side of things on my laptop just still no issues at all it's been completely rock solid at this point in time if i was going to recommend somebody a distro i've been i've been enjoying no i know i've been enjoying cashy it's been a fun experience i would still do mint man like if it's just so much easier the like level of difficulty stepping into it is just so low and I'm sure people just like last time will get pissed at me and I just I don't care it's it's so much easier I showed uh I was showing mint to Emma and she was like oh yeah this all just like makes sense and it's like yeah yeah it's funny I've been told a lot of times by various members of our audience that intuitive design is not a thing and no no it is it is and mint feels pretty intuitive especially an older school windows user like most of emma's windows experience is like xp vista and sometimes intuitiveness is context dependent relative yeah yes uh and so you know i think i think that came up when i was talking about the intuitiveness of something on ios where someone was like that's intuitive to some people and i'm like well it's not ios users because here's the all the other ways that ios does this and it's not that way so that's not what intuitive means um why don't we jump into

1:02:32sony oh sorry one quick last thing i would bring up okay uh mint has been like sleeping super effectively on the laptop the battery usage seems lower than windows was other things it's been it's actually really great something that i'm right now pretty confident is going to survive through this challenge is my laptop being on mint it's actually just been better and like my argument the last time i tried this which was a long time ago switching a work computer over yeah was that linux got in my way too much even teams has been pretty solid for me teams was weird for me for some reason uh i i well okay i ended up figuring it out my my i think teams is just a bad program really tell us how you really feel and and the like web appy teams for linux thing i don't think it's really like worse it's just still teams which is like just still a problem i don't think i don't think it's really like the the open source project that's the problem it's just teams why are you gonna keep attacking teams we just we just dropped 300 live viewers luke teams fans no i'm kidding it's a reporting glitch um sorry i'm not gonna stop complaining about teams but uh crap was i gonna say yeah no it it has gotten in my way a lot less than windows is now so it's actually switched i think it would actually be for me at least a productivity reduction that's funny to go to windows i wrote a whole paragraph that's basically this um i think the general conclusion for me is that i could switch but i won't uh part of the problem and and this is a midway conclusion this is not the final conclusion yeah but it's where i'm sitting right now um and i think that a big part of what makes switching difficult is your perspective if you want linux to be a replacement for your windows pc then you may end up disappointed but if you think of linux and i mean from a gaming perspective as more of a console where you start with what is compatible with my console and you play that then you may be ready if you can have that perspective but i don't buy many consoles and i don't do the bulk of my gaming on them and if you want the broadest compatibility windows is still king especially if there's a social element to your gaming and your group wants to play something that is not linux pilled with all that said this is the paragraph i wanted to read i don't think i can go back to vanilla windows anymore either yeah it has been so refreshing to not be bothered a single time over the last month to reaffirm once again that no i in fact do not want edge as my default browser so nice so i think it's been oddly like calm yeah like i actually think i'm more relaxed Like this is just, I fired up my computer before the show and it just had all my stuff on it that I was doing.

1:05:38Yeah. And nothing else. Yeah. Well, I had that Kubuntu live boot thing, but someone gave me the command to fix that. I just haven't put it in a terminal yet. But that's the other thing too, is if something like that happens, I believe that I can fix it. And it might be work to fix it, but I believe that I can fix it. so if I care enough I'll go do it and it will probably stay fixed and with Windows if I remove recall or I say no to OneDrive or I do whatever they're going to find some way Windows is going to update do something it's going to worm its way back in second half 26 and I feel like I'm constantly under attack where with Linux it's like I mean it's you know it's kind of a piece of shit sometimes but I'd rather work on my but it could get it's gonna get better yeah i think that's the big one windows is the windows can be a piece of sometimes and it's constantly getting worse and linux can be a piece of sometimes and it's constantly and it's constantly getting better and it has gone so much better than since the last time we tried holy crap the updating experience on mint is like amazing the updating experience on on caching is also actually extremely easy and i really like watching the little pac-man thing go across it's very fun uh it feels very uh like uh windows xp defrag um in caching when you update uh you well in many you can do it many different ways but pacman the like package installer and you can update with it and stuff like that um it shows a little yellow c that goes across and eats the like dashes as it like progress bars and i just i just like stuff like that uh oh some people are saying don't leave us hanging on the game i did say it it's called bravery and greed yeah we haven't played a ton of it yet we've played like an hour um but it was it was fun what we played it's a little it's a little hardcore gamery for yvonne um like even i was having trouble oh my god i started playing god of war uh i'm man how many hours am i into it okay so i would say that i'm five hours into it because i have five hours of play time i am maybe one hour into this game to redo stuff because it's so hard oh interesting i've never played a god of war game so oh no it's very different so um the combat is not uh you know press light attack heavy attack block it's like okay well you could be in two completely different fighting modes with your axe and without your axe and depending which opponent you're playing against you may want to be using the axe or not using the axe and when you're using the axe here's all of your special button press combinations that you might want to use don't forget you need to time your blocks exactly perfectly here's your button to swivel around and face the other way immediately and when you have your axe don't forget you can throw your axe but also here's all the other ways that you can contort your hands in order to uh by the way you have to fight like four things at once and they don't like wait around for you to be ready uh i'm not playing on the hardest difficulty because i thought that would be crazy i'm playing on the like just like give me a challenge difficulty and it is absolutely kicking my ass so um yeah i um you're playing on a controller yeah are you not supposed to i mean no you are i just that game really sold me on like weapon feel in video games oh really axe is probably one of the like best feeling weapons and like especially when you're playing with a controller and the sound mixed with the haptics and everything it just feels meaty when you throw it and you catch it again it's like oh i have my my my bro back like it just i don't know it felt great well i'm uh you know an hour into it i okay i've made a little more than five hours into the field i've made a little more than an hour of progress uh basically i'm at the point now where i'm figuring out that okay i will need to use every single move in this tech tree not only i will need to use them but i will need to be muscle memory familiar with them which i'm still deciding if i can commit to in current year for a video game or if i just need to ratchet down the difficulty so we'll see how it goes anyway i've been playing it exclusively on linux you want to know what's kind of funny uh imagine playing a playstation game on linux like just seriously though if you told me 10 years ago yeah yeah that i'd be like come on yeah for sure that is wild that's crazy that's so cool and it's not like some crazy well it kind of is but it's not some crazy like emulation thing like you're not emulating a ps1 in order to play it yeah it's a it's a very it's a current-ish god of war game that runs on current generation console i know it came out in 2018 stop it what i mean is that it's not a playstation one game i hear you it's not something that you can just emulate on a potato yeah um it's a it's a beautiful looking game and it's just flipping running on kaboom 2 on my laptop strix halo is so cool dude yeah like it's so cool yeah i cannot yes i cannot love stricts halo hard enough and hate how much it costs more yeah um and oh sorry you were gonna say something uh i have way less i i've just been covering okay so slate spire 2 i haven't really looked into it but there's no like windowed mode and normally if you see me play the windowed mode i usually play that's right because you're busy playing that instead of actually readying up in the lobby yes yes i'm familiar with your style play it in like a very very small window and that's style over top of the chat box where we're all telling you to ready up yes yes i've seen that that was unintentional my bad um but usually it'll just sit on like a side monitor yes he's that guy mr omut no i did it literally once i'm sorry um but it it uh it sits on a side monitor and i'll often just ignore it it'll be very common that i'll finish a run it'll be like oh your runtime was like 40 hours because i just didn't play it um and so spy 2 is full screen so i just i'm just like well okay i this is my like oh i have five minutes i'll throw some cards and then ignore this for eight hours game and that actually like i these days i just put stuff on top of it is there a weird hacky way to run full screen games probably there's gotta be probably i just haven't bothered um but it's been interesting that like you know say the fire two's out i'm gonna play that instead of slay the spire one but um my overall playing of slay the spire if you look at steam hours has like plummeted because i'm not even contributing to the concurrence yeah it's it's not as people like you that are the reason that it didn't be maybe to be honest they were that close to silksong and couldn't do it because of this man yep yep yep the worst example of that was i went i think uh this was when i used to have to leave my computer on for work reasons all the time and i think i went on one of those like i went to taiwan and then took a week off trips and came back and it was still running nice i was just like oh crap nice yeah um oh right holy crap we really should have called out cw a lot earlier i actually meant to do it right at the beginning of the show because there is so much going on with creator warehouse and ltd store right now this week we launched our system error collection luke do you want to bring up the site apparently other people have it maybe i tried too early and they updated it or maybe my system's just being weird but other people have it windowed mode i don't know Uh, anyway.

1:13:43Sorry, which one? System error. Yep. There's no link. I'll just go to the site. I believe in you. The first item in this collection is the error message hoodie, which is inspired by all the inventive ways that your computer shits itself. This is very swag. Isn't it? It's very swaggy. Is that cool or what? It looks sick. Freaking love it. You got the little dinosaur with the cacti. You got the, uh, uh 404 error like oh what a cool like if you know you know hoodie that just also just looks really cool and if you don't know then it just looks like a cool hoodie um we've got uh the chrome dinosaur an overheating pc uh willie our whale land mascot did we name him willie oh man i mean i guess that makes sense and a very mentally stable cat uh all packed into one slightly chaotic design uh plus it's printed on a 100 cotton french terry hoodie so it's actually comfortable enough for everyday wear not awesome freaking love it the next item in the collection is the just rage quit t-shirt this design is our take on that 90s era assistant you know the one but ours is a little more unhinged we um we had to really craft the copy for this one so that it didn't sound like go kill yourself

1:15:22that would be an ai yeah we we we so we ended up with just rage quit to make it more computery gamery finally not last but least we have our boot up toaster t-shirt this one's a reference to that old pc you had when your siblings called dibs on the nice one the one that sounds like an airplane taking off but struggles to open a web browser like always it's printed on our classic shadow blank t's and you can shop the entire system error collection at lmg.gg I always like the little twirl one. System error. Because I think it's really cool that you can actually really see the fabric. And now they're doing that.

1:16:06Now you can really, really see the fabric. That's also cool. I love our blank t-shirts. The team does such a great job. Yeah. But wait. There's more. What? The tax write-off sale is back. It's tax season, baby. So we went through our warehouse and pulled out a bunch of stuff that has been taken up space. And needs to be written off. That includes mystery screwdrivers, mystery shirts, mystery tall shirts. Whoa, get a deal on tall t-shirts. I might actually just do that. We also have used but like new bags. We have mystery water bottles. We've got some of those Retro Monitor pet caves that we found in a corner somewhere.

1:16:50Those have been actually really popular. So take advantage of this sale. and uh yeah some of these things are discounted probably a little more than they should be what 120 off 150 yeah don't worry about that it's only a thunderbolt free dock so it's an older thunderbolt in here twice but it checks out i was about to clear it um that's with displayport yeah okay um they cost the same yeah some of these are discounted a lot uh you can think of the sale as kind of like the buying ram without mortgaging your house sale says my copy here okay sure you can shop the sale at lmg.gg slash tax right off 2026 we got the onesie in there we got the washed crew neck it's tax right off season baby screen so we've got a few screensaver party shirts in various sizes some of these not every size is going to be available so make sure you guys are checking quick and getting your hands on uh yeah i was trying to i was trying to there There was a...

1:17:55Let me see if I can find it. Oh, right. And as always, now's a great time to place an order because you can also send a checkout message. Do you want to show them how to do it? Just add something to cart. It is in stock? What the... Oh, yeah. That's a really nice shirt. Did this get restocked like today? It has like a nice stretchy fabric and it has a little lanyard thing in the pocket so you can put your ID card on it and stuff. Yeah, I wanted something that... Because the stretchy fabric. Yeah. I wanted something that was comfortable but a little bit sharper just for when I need to wear that.

1:18:23Yep. I was shopping on the store. I was going to grab one of these, and I thought XO was sold out, but apparently it's not. We'll throw it in the cart. Oh, no, this is the US store. Right. Well, throw it in the cart and show people how to send a checkout message. Pure. There you go. In the cart, you'll see this interface when we're live. It's the best way to send a message into the show. We believe that throwing money at random streamers, I mean, if you want to do it, that's cool, but if you throw it at us, you should get high-quality merchandise in return. So go ahead, place your order. Your message will go to Producer Dan.

1:18:54who will reply to it or pop it up. There we go. Down there, kind of like that. Or who will curate it for me and Luke to respond to. So, Dan, do you have a few comms for us to respond to? I do. Oh, you do? My goodness. We've got a few people are into the sales today. People placing orders today. Oh, yeah. Global store sell out of Excel. That makes sense. Hi, LLD. A couple of questions about the Whale Land VIP. If I fly to BC, will the custom PC include component boxes so I can disassemble and ship it home? Also, can VIP and bring your own computer plus sit together? Because that's the plus ones.

1:19:33Oh. Wow, those are really good questions. Those are good questions. I don't think it includes all the boxes, but I believe we could accommodate taking the GPU out, at least. Because the systems are shipped to us. so like i think we're partnered with starforge on them so they're shipped to us they obviously got here so they should be safe to ship um the case box is included uh oh oh look at that hobbs is in the chat of course he is uh says starforge handles the shipping there you go so there you go starforge apparently gets the systems back from us make sure they're good and then reships them that's pretty sick apparently that's how it worked in the past at least i think that's cool as for a vip and a byoc plus sitting together i don't know i don't know i think you might have to contact support on that one and they'd have to get they'd have to get back to you possible like if so support i don't know it might be possible if you just sit on on the end vips also get twice as much space so realistically if you put like a non-whale ticket if you were just willing to have your space and put another person in it i couldn't see us saying no i don't know that would seem pretty chill power though and stuff i think we'd probably be okay we could probably figure something out but just check yeah definitely check with uh with with the whale land team okay mr dan oh yeah i got another one here then i just got a couple of kittens any advice on how to organize my setup to make it safer for them and more reliable for me Oh boy, do I ever have the thing for you?

1:21:20Gear, magnetic cable management. See this? This is your life today. This is your life with all your cables out of reach of your cat. Seriously. Aesthetics is one reason to have all the cables up off the floor and like, like channeled up the leg of your desk and like carefully tucked into everything. pets pets and babies that's the other big one i had they are so much less tempted to play with them and chew on them when they're just all all managed and when you do it magnetically the it's it's not better it doesn't look better than using little plastic zip ties or doing whatever it was that you were doing already and it's really expensive so how could i possibly sell the solution because when you do it with magnets it will stay done that's the difference as soon as you go to change something when you used little plastic zip ties or whatever you go oh crap okay i'm cable you're not going to redo it you're going to be able to motivate yourself to do it one time and if you do it with magnets one time then when you go to change something there's no excuse you just and you're good to go it's awesome i love it my with the with the move back in i haven't re-cable managed everything and when i put my desk into like omega standing mode because not only is it standing but it's also standing while i'm standing on a tall thing right on your treadmill yeah so it's like super tall um all the cables were dangling and eva walked in the room and was just like okay and nice it does kind of suck but I'm not starting from zero because the pads are still there.

1:23:04Nice. So it won't be as bad this time. Nope, it won't. It'll still take a bit, but it won't be as bad. Yep. Gerasol actually has another great suggestion that could save you some money. You could use just a couple of the larger MCMs to attach your baby to the wall. That will keep them away from all the dangling wires. That actually... You could use that on a cat as well. I figure if you have four of them, you just do one for each leg and then they shouldn't be able to go anywhere. Yeah, extra large for the tail? Not actually pet or child care advice. Yeah.

1:23:38Are cats magnetic? No, no, they're not. But you'd use the arch and you'd kind of pin down the leg with it is sort of what we were thinking here. Kidding, kidding, kidding, kidding, kitty, kitty-ing, kitty-ing. Don't worry about it. The point is, we're doing another topic now. Let's talk about... Ooh. Sony issuing an update for the PlayStation 3 nearly 20 years post-launch. Whoa. That's right. Update 4.93 just hit on a console that launched in November of 2006. The patch notes just say improves system performance, the same vague wording that was used for the last three updates, but it is believed that the real purpose is almost certainly anti-jailbreak measures and a bluetooth key uh bluetooth blu-ray key uh encryption key renewal which is especially relevant now that netflix on ps3 has been discontinued leaving physical media as one of the few remaining use cases for owning the console aside of retro game aside from retro gaming i have to say i'm going to interject for a second i i understand the market trend for physical media is that it's going down i think it's a lot of it's because there isn't really as many options anymore and oh kind of two things here um and i i have never seen so many people go to places like willow video a like used media store mostly games uh to buy physical like dvds blu-ray stuff like that that place has been bumping the last two times i've gone in there there's been like six to eight other customers.

1:25:20It's a small store. And most of them are buying Blu-rays. It's been kind of interesting. Do you think Blu-rays are going to become trendy like vinyl records? I don't think it's hey, this is old school trendy. Because some people are renting. We walked through their Blu-ray rental section and there was whole rows of movies that were just gone, fully rented out. I think people are just really tired of online subscription stuff and it's like fascinating kind of really expensive and it might be easier to budget like oh we can go rent a blu-ray for not that much money then i am guaranteed spending however much it is now um every single month on like netflix and maybe also disney and also maybe amazon and also maybe uh whatever all the other ones are um and it's it's it's really interesting how much do they charge to rent a blu-ray i'm not sure off the top of my head i can't imagine it's more than like very much movie rental rates dvd and blu-ray new releases four dollars for a one-night rental where else can you get a night out for five bucks i'm saying four dollars for the blu-ray and then a buck for make it yourself popcorn at home you know what's not really all that it's not a night out but it's you know is flipping through movies and netflix do you know what i have watched people in the last couple weeks have actually a lot of fun doing i shifting through the shelf in willow i actually hate both solutions for for digital media management and And when I say both solutions, what I'm talking about is Netflix, which algorithmically serves you stuff that they think you'll like based on your past behavior, which in my account is a mess because I'll use it here at work just to put on things that are going to look nice on a TV.

1:27:22And also it would mine was the catch all before they had profiles for all the various members of our family. So my recommendations mean absolutely nothing. I hate that Netflix doesn't tell you any kind of either critic consensus or audience consensus evaluation of the quality of this media before you start watching it. I can't deal with that. flip side Plex which includes both critic consensus and Rotten Tomatoes, audience consensus as well as IMDB ratings or at least I have mine configured to do that also sucks on the one hand on Netflix I don't want to commit to anything because I have absolutely no way of knowing if it's hot garbage, bring back dislike buttons on absolutely everything with Marquez on this and then when it comes to plex i'll see something that catches my eye in this like smorgasbord of too many options and i'll go oh that actually looks like something i would enjoy and then i'll get deterred i'll get deterred by someone else hated it and what is really stupid about that is there's movies that i love like just i'm sorry this is going to be an unpopular opinion i fucking love major pain you know what do is it politically correct today uh i mean it's a wayans brother wayans wyans whatever it's it it no let's let's put it that way did critics think that this was a quality film no do even most audience members okay most yes but that's realistically only going to be fans of this sort of like i'd have to is this a cult is this a culty movie it's gotta be there's there's no way you see clips from it like all the time it's in memes all the time it's oh yeah it's in tons of i don't come across it's in memes for sure yeah i have almost never come across it in memes but anyway look i love this movie but this is a movie that if it wasn't one of the nine VHSs that my friend owned, you know, like you remember how we used to select a movie is you were, you were at a friend's house for the evening and they would have like a dozen movies and you'd watch one of them.

1:29:50It would be obviously one that they've seen, you know, 10 times because it's one of the few movies they own, but you've never seen it. You watch it together. Like that's how I ended up watching basketball. Cause it was one of the like handful of movies that Kenny, Kenny Alloprandini owned. And I was at his house that night. and shout out Kenny by the way I know he watches LTT because he messages me every once in a while so how you doing Kenny and that's probably another movie that's like probably not especially well critically rated yeah it's got 40 % it's got a rotten score and even a 74 % audience score I would consider not that great I actually don't know if that's a good movie I haven't watched it since I was a teenager so I mean either major pain I have it was and it holds up I freaking love it still no idea if basketball does but it was a to quote chat it was a banger when we were in high school like I don't know I also want to point this out this was crazy to me I saw this too and these were very actively being rented out oh wow 10 bucks for a week for a Nintendo switch or ps5 game you can beat a lot of games in a week yeah especially if you have a week off again whole rows missing fully rented out like let's go willow video that that type of stuff renting games renting movies buying blu-rays is actually kind of popping right now which is very interesting i've like uh i don't know if i've told this story on the show but one of the reasons why i've called out Willow a few times is back in the day at a restaurant that is now closed, which adds a little bit of more ominous tone to the story.

1:31:32I was sitting there eating with somebody and a couple tables away, I recognized the owner of Willow sitting there talking to someone who looked like probably a CPA of some kind with a papers all over the place talking about how times were tough. This was, this was a long time ago. Okay. Um, and I was like, damn, that's been my favorite store since I was like a tiny child. I hope it doesn't close. And that's when I kind of decided to lock in and just like, I'm only going to buy gaming stuff from them. Right. That was in that moment was when I did that. And now I've extended that to other stores as well that are like, you know, I only go to the one gas station, different things like that.

1:32:08I tried to, okay, sorry, finish your story. You should, I mean, you don't buy gas that often, but. Nope.

1:32:17Which is cool. um but i don't think like i still love going there and now i just go there because it's freaking awesome but i don't know if they like need that anymore it is i i would back in that era i would go in there and i'd maybe be the only person in there or there'd be somebody else yeah lately man it's just been popping off which is awesome i think that's super cool so cool dude i i tried so hard to uh to to shop at uh at a canadian chain yesterday and it like completely didn't work i needed three what i consider to be reasonably basic things i needed a long two millimeter allen key like like not one of the ones that's on the little like folding thing and not an not an interchangeable bit one because obviously i have my own tools for that i needed a long one because it had to go it had to go through the the like axle into the uh differential on an rc car it had to go all the way through this thing in order to detach it um so i need one of those i needed some brake cleaner and i needed some uh like clear lithium grease okay relatively basic okay a little bit it's not a two by four right so i tried to get all three of those things at rona and we struck out on all three and i had a super helpful sales associate they told me after that they knew the channel so they were like like super duper helping me try to find all these things we couldn't get any of them uh rona's no longer canadian since when they got bought out by somebody oh when the heck was that well whatever i tried to go to home hardware who i know is definitely canadian they were closed because they apparently operate on banker's hours so i had to go to home depot really do and they had they had all three of the things rona got bought by private equity yeah sycamore partners u.s based private equity firm oh 2023 home hardware however is a private 100 % Canadian owned and operated companies structured as a dealer owned cooperative and it has more than a thousand locations.

1:34:18The only problem is it's never open. They just don't really feel like being open a lot of the time. They actually, for how big their stores are they have a shocking selection. Like I needed to. Home hardware is usually like a small store in like kind of strip mall style situations. Yeah, I needed some I needed some random like gas fitting or something and I had actually, this was before um i even like cared about going to smaller stores at all and i um i so i had already struck out at i think canadian tire home depot and rona and i was like oh yeah home hardware okay maybe because i i needed it for that weekend for a barbecue i needed this like random gas fitting of some sort Right, because the barbecue I bought at Costco used a US interface instead of the one that was more standard in Canada or something like that, even though I bought it at Canadian Costco.

1:35:14Anyway, the point is, home hardware had it. They had one unit in stock. And I was like, how do you have this? And they're like, I don't know, we try to have the right stuff. I'm like, okay, you know what? It doesn't matter why you have it. I'll take it. It was like$13 or whatever for one stupid thing. but I was happy to have it because I was able to make burgers.

1:35:39All right. Why don't we, Oh, wait, no, I'm not done talking about the PlayStation three update yet. I want to talk about the scary part of Sony providing firmware updates on a 20 year old console. On the one hand, that's pretty cool, right? For them to update the, the Blu-ray encryption key and all that. on the other hand what the fuck what if they hadn't what if sony someday doesn't exist to update to update the firmware of this how much does it suck that not only today the things we're getting today are at the mercy of the manufacturer to allow them to continue to function but already we're reaching end of life probably i mean there's no way they continue doing this forever right it's been 20 years we're already reaching the point where pretty basic they did pretty old yeah that's cool but pretty old stuff is purely at the mercy of the manufacturer who made it 20 years ago for it to continue to function in the way that they said it would i i just wanted to share that little awful thought yeah i don't i don't know how it works but somebody said it would only affect new releases on blu-ray which is not as bad yeah but it still sucks not great yep yep like i i mean my my vhs player doesn't care when my vhs came out nope it will just read it no it won't run a dvhs mind you okay like there are you know we have standards people literally we have standards dvhs is a standard i knew i knew it yeah yeah we need we need riley's like thing that he was doing oh thanks dan that was actually pretty good um all right well oh floatplane announcement yes we should do that uh what's going on on floatplane this week early access early access time we have opinions about tech like is open source always better than closed source software is piracy okay you've probably developed some thoughts on these subjects but do you share the same opinion as the ltt writers do they share the same opinions as each other find out on flow plane early access right now

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1:40:53Did I do the voice pretty good? It was pretty good. I tried. I tried to do it pretty good. Do you want to pick a topic for us? Yeah, I do. I really do. You've picked too many topics today. I'm frustrated about it. I'm pissed, really. Sorry. You did three. I think we've only talked about three topics. I wasn't even certain that you were the only one that picked them. I just went with it. Anyways, what I'm actually pissed about is Windows Recall existing, and I'm happy that this happened. Windows Recall was cracked again. Security researcher Alex Hagenah, or Zytax, most... Sorry, Twitter. Yeah, on Twitter, or other things that have handles.

1:41:36Their most recent dive into testing Recall's vulnerabilities led to an update to Total Recall, the extraction tool that Alex developed to find the initial vulnerabilities back in 2024 that exposed everything being stored in an unencrypted SQLite database. Sick. Sick. For those unfamiliar with Windows Recall, it's packed into Copilot Plus to take regular screenshots of your screen and then stores it locally so that you can ask AI about what you've looked at in the past. It's limited to specific Windows 11 systems as it requires an NPU to support it. the feature originally was defaulted to enabled now it's opted which is a big improvement yes but still an enormous problem because just because luke opts in and all of our chat logs on his system are he has opted into storing does not mean that i am comfortable with that happening especially if that were to be compromised at some point i mean i would never say anything in a chat to luke that would be potentially compromat so i wouldn't care if he enabled windows recall however just in case he were to ever talk to someone who used let's say colorful analogies for instance um it might be better if he didn't enable it yeah supposedly windows has redesigned the entire recall architecture to use virtual base security However, cybersecurity Kevin Beaumont, also known as Gossy the Dog.

1:43:10You missed the word expert in there, but yes, cybersecurity expert Kevin Beaumont. Yep. On various platforms, probably Twitter, confirmed that you can just read the database in plain text. Further adding, it contains all manner of fields which aren't publicly disclosed for tracking the user's activity. Nice. Cool. One of the most dangerous parts is that using the tool doesn't trigger any antivirus or EDR alert either and can be used as a standard user process. Microsoft may already be ahead of these concerns, though. Sure. As a recent Windows Central article, everything can be broken. Everything that exists can be broken into.

1:43:52Its security can be cracked, etc. so or may eventually be able to be like maybe today we don't have the means to open that lock yeah yeah we'll get there someday somebody will be curious and interested enough to or have enough money to fit or that to buy the solution we're talking and and when we're talking about something like recall when we're talking about something as juicy as all of the user activity on a system like there's there's there's state level actors guys who have functionally infinite resources to put into this when when the whole laptop saga was going on which one uh biden's hunter biden's laptop oh gosh how much would someone have paid oh yeah any recall on his lap anything like it's it's it's too much of like a But anyways, Microsoft may have already been ahead of these concerns.

1:44:51As a recent Windows Central article from January 30th pointed out, Windows Recall is another AI experience that I'm told is under review. Stating that their sources claims Microsoft believes its current iteration has failed. I read that article, and I don't believe that that statement from Microsoft referred to that there are technical problems in the database being stored in plain text. I read that as Microsoft understands that it has a PR problem. Yes. That was my interpretation of that statement from Microsoft. So I'm not going to give them credit for this. Sorry. And neither of my computers running Linux have this at all, which is so cool.

1:45:35And I don't think we honestly have a ton more to say about that. Good job, Alex. Good job, Kevin. Yeah. Hell yeah. Google search. Oh, you want to do this one? Yeah. Okay, let's do it. Google search is replacing headlines. And they're using AI to do it because, of course, the Verge experienced their own headline, which was in quotes I used the cheat on everything AI tool and it didn't help me cheat on anything and it was changed to just cheat on everything AI to I'm assuming that's supposed to be tool no I think is it actually to I'll double I'll double check the verge pointed out that the change title almost sounds like they're endorsing the product I agree oh it was tool yeah yeah okay so cheat on everything ai tool i i don't even think it almost it just absolutely does the verge pointed out that the change title almost sounds like they're endorsing a product i think it just makes them actually sound like they're endorsing a product uh which they did not recommend cheat on everything ai tool yeah that sounds like that sounds like like an affirmative yeah statement of the tools real functionality from a place like the verge it makes them sound like they're saying there is a tool that allows you to cheat on everything especially because i'm looking that's crazy i'm looking at the uh at the verges article here cheat on everything ai tool yeah it's i yeah i actually this is going to be one of those ones i actually disagree with mr hollister i think that um i think that i think that you're I think in trying to present a neutral viewpoint on this, which good on you.

1:47:21Good job. That's your job as a journalist, right? That you did the right thing. But I think in doing that, you're almost underselling how egregious this is. That is crazy. I don't think it almost sounds like an endorsement. i think it sounds like if not a like uh uh you know billy mays here with the cheat on everything ai tool i think at the very least it sounds like an endorsement of the functionality of the product and it very clearly isn't because your original headline very clearly says it didn't help me cheat on anything yeah this is so bad for for two various very obvious reasons that people have already thought about i'm sure but there's the by changing your title they might make it less clickable which would encourage people to just read the ai summary provided by google and not click onto your site and also in this specific case it's a it's a negative title about ai which they changed into a positive or arguably but i don't think so neutral title about ai as a company who's pushing really hard for AI stuff.

1:48:35So there's like two-pronged definitely bad. This isn't apparently the first time. Google earlier this year was also changing headlines in the Google News tab using AI as well, and The Verge reported several times where it could give the wrong impression to what the article actually is, including one example where the headline was changed to the complete opposite of what the story actually was, which I think is arguably close to what just happened. The title was apparently US reverses foreign drone band ban was what an article was changed to when it was just an update on the foreign drone band, not a reversal.

1:49:14Wow. Some comments on the article point out a great point, such as how is this even useful for Google? Well, you have to assume that Google is. I know I told I know I disagree. I see how this is very useful for Google. Google is optimizing for click-through and wants to keep you in their ecosystem. I think cheat on everything AI tool from The Verge is something I would be more likely to click on versus I used the cheat on everything AI tool and it didn't help me cheat on anything. Because the original headline tells me all that I need to know, that there are AI cheating tools that are useless.

1:49:53I have no interest in AI cheating, so I don't need to know which specific one it is. So I don't really care. I don't need to click on it. Whereas the cheat on everything AI tool, if it works, I might be more interested. I guess I'd be more interested in finding one that works, if I cared at all, than finding one that didn't work. And just hearing a snarky, anti-AI cheating article. You know what I mean? One of the things, I pointed out my two arguments earlier, but another one of the things with Google in general, is they are primarily interested in retention in their things. So they can serve you ads and everything else.

1:50:29So they claim on YouTube that they care about satisfaction and not just retention. But to me, it feels like... I have a really hard time believing that. It feels like... What is satisfaction if not staying? Retention. Yeah. And so I think that that has become a little bit perverted over the years. that focus on satisfaction has because retention can be such a powerful proxy for satisfaction i think that um i think they've lost their way a little bit and this would be a perfect example because yeah i'd be way more likely to click on u.s reverses foreign drone ban and i'd be if i was an interested party way more likely to click on the cheat on everything ai tool than update on this been that already exists and this thing didn't help me cheat on anything so in terms of just generating click through and engagement with my with google search results in the google news feed yeah 100 i can understand why they're doing this

1:51:42yeah brutal uh cool don't do that anymore google like you're gonna listen uh what else we got how about do You want some good news? Yeah. Yeah, let's do some good news. Steve Wozniak. Actually, no, that's really exciting. Do that one. Steve Wozniak saw the LTT Core Master Remote video and liked it. Someone on Discord said they know Steve Wozniak and they sent the Core Master Remote video to him. Steve responded saying, this is the coolest thing I've watched in ages. this part isn't in my notes um but he also said i haven't finished watching the whole thing yet um i guess he's probably a pretty busy dude but uh hey i appreciate i appreciate him uh watching at least part of it and i also appreciate him bringing the the core master remote into the world it is truly the sort of thing that could only be spawned by a big brain engineering type um who cannot fathom that other not equally big-brained people will not be able to fathom this uh it do this thing did you watch this video yep this thing is so oh it's awesome cool and totally still works even though it was released in i believe 1987 uh it's been a while since I like reviewed the script with Jordan and actually like used the thing with Pancrat so I could get a little detail like a year wrong.

1:53:20But, oh, here it is in action. I love this intro. I'm just like going around using this, like literally almost 40 year old remote. How wild is that to wrap your brain around? And it works great. And I'm controlling RGB strips and modern monitors and TVs and stuff with it. It's so cool. I'm not going to lie. I kind of wanted one after I watched the video. Like unironically as a cool, useful piece of tech at home. Not like, oh, I have this weird archaic thing. I was just like, oh, it's actually just kind of nice. It's pretty sweet. Yeah. Yeah, it's really cool. and the the deeper you get into it the cooler it is it's uh it's it's really cool um oh this is a anyway so i just i i don't know man i thought that was pretty cool so the communication channels are now open uh i would i would love it if we could do something with the waz one day i'm not making any promises so maybe i mean i've maybe who knows maybe i'm not going to make any promises and i'm not going to put any words in his mouth because i haven't even corresponded with him directly yet it's so far it's been my people talking to his people and a message passed along yeah but i just i just i just going through like doing like a history of waz's projects would be so sick i probably have to be a few videos but it would be yeah i was gonna say that sounds like an entire channel luke yeah it's awesome it's a great pitch but it might be beyond the scope of what we might what we might do.

1:55:05You don't know he's going to have to ship me around the world when he comes to visit. Let's contrast to that. Unless there's more you have to add there. Sure. Wait, what was I going to say? I don't know. I don't remember. Is TrueNAS going closed source? Last week, TrueNAS updated the GitHub repository with a deprecation notice stating that the repo is no longer actively maintained and have been moved to an internal infrastructure. Immediately, people were confused and frustrated asking what this meant for TrueNAS, especially since lots of people either self-host their own data or even run companies' infrastructure and data on TrueNAS.

1:55:49TrueNAS CTO made a blog post to clear up any confusion, stating the following, why we did it, colon, we had a growing problem with bad actors forking TrueNAS, selling closed source commercial derivatives under their own brands and ignoring GPL and other licensing obligations. No attribution, no contribution back to the project, no support for the community or the engineering effort that built what they're reselling. What this does not mean, we are not paywalling existing free features, period. If it's a free today, it stays free. He then followed up with more clarification on a Reddit post saying, the bottom line is the open source bits of TrueNAS will remain open source.

1:56:29They are GPL v3 after all. The build system is another matter. It's currently changing fairly radically internally now around for a variety of reasons, some of which are related to our signing infrastructure for secure boot, etc.

1:56:53Interesting. Many users understand the change and why it's being done, but are still not happy, mainly for the sake of transparency.

1:57:04So our discussion question here is, is the world trending more toward open source or closed source? I mean, I don't think we have to discuss that for too long. I think overall we're trending towards open source. There is some cruddy stuff going on right now, but usually it's a pretty good ecosystem. Yeah, I mean, any trend has, you know, dips. I think overall the world is headed that way. I agree. I mean, there's a DeepSeek. Is there not a DeepSeek thing coming? I've heard rumblings. A DeepSeek thing? The last thing that like temporarily crashed the American AI market was DeepSeek releasing an open source model.

1:57:51Right. That like was pretty beast. And I have heard through Grapevines that there's like another one coming. Oh, like an AI thing? Yeah. A new model. Oh, I thought you were going to say like an open source NAS operating system. I was like, really? Because I think TrueNAS is still the one, even though there are aspects of it that they are... No, no, no. DeepSeek is anticipated to release its next generation DeepSeek V4 model around the mid-February to April 2026 timeline. Oh, okay. the other question here was does this affect hex os at all being built on true nas investment disclosure in hex os uh no it doesn't uh hex os has another investment partner true nas x systems so um this does not impact their ability to make hex os awesome and continue to be built on true nas and all that good stuff uh so i'm actually uh i was i was quite relieved to hear that that will not be a problem because that's the first thing that's the first email i sent when i saw this news i was like hey john is this gonna be a problem yeah i was pretty confident just because i knew that though yeah he's like nope no it's all gonna be good all gonna be good hey speaking of things that are all gonna be good i don't know if it's all gonna be good but i want to try i want to touch the macbook neo i haven't actually i haven't seen one in person yet so i I did my video on the Apple unveiling event.

1:59:18Six core CPU, five core GPU, 13 inch liquid retina. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, can you imagine if I told you, you know, back when you were dailying that Asus bamboo laptop, that you'd be able to buy a 600 US dollar laptop with a 2408 by 1506 pixel display. I mean, the first thing you would have said was what the fuck are those numbers for a display resolution? probably and then the second thing you would have done said after you did the math is damn that's some fine pixels per inch here um yeah it's only got eight gigs of ram 256 gigs of storage but guys honestly at that time i was i was even cheaper and i might have wondered if i could just get one in a lower resolution considering the screen size um 600 freaking dollars it would be fine Don't drop it now.

2:00:09Yeah, okay. Such a chaotic way to open things. That's your laptop charger. Pretty wild. I mean, it only has like, I think it was like a 37 watt hour battery or something like that. It doesn't even have a huge battery. Don't quote me on that. L-O-L, eight gigs of RAM. Yeah, dude, what you're doing on here is not that complicated. Yeah. And it's 600 bucks. It ain't that deep, brother. 500 if you get the education one. Look at this. Look at this. This was apparently, according to iFixit, Apple's most repairable MacBook ever. it turns out apple can just put screws in the damn thing so that we can just unscrew them and then just take the bottom off it's nice that it's so repairable because the education stuff yeah if this ends up in schools it's going to get beat on now i actually saw that uh frameworks ceo investment disclosure uh framework ceo did like a reaction to apple's repairability versus framework i suspect i haven't actually watched it i suspect you know yeah it's it's not a framework nerav no but the way that an organization like a school is going to repair a laptop is not at the like individual component level it's like can they swap in a new main board like the entire you know thing is it is it possible at all can they get the bloody thing open compared to do they need like a you know a heat gun or whatever to take apart the glue so yeah making tvs did you message him about that i mean i messaged him about it but i wouldn't be able to tell you anything about his response good enough um and like oh man the rigidity feel it that looks i saw i saw you feel it it feels premium like yeah it's not milled out of a single piece of aluminum right because they've got they got screws on the bottom they just it just like pops off so it's not like they you know it's not like a super fancy unibody you know like they used to do there are a lot more expensive laptops i've done that too that have just

2:02:02Hinge feels good. I heard the close and knew it was nice Yeah, yeah, yeah Did you did you did the hair raise on the back of your neck? I'm glad I'm not on camera That was nice dude the bezel isn't even that big no like no okay. I'm gonna try the keyboard As far as I've heard, it's just the same keyboard, so it should be good, but we'll see.

2:03:04He didn't immediately thing yeah bottom is stamped but i think the upper the upper piece is is milled out of a single piece of aluminum it is yes what for six hundred dollars is it online are you on wi-fi for six hundred dollars luke are you on wi-fi oh no i'm not on wi-fi right now uh no network lmg i can i can connect okay whoa go to monkey type wait shut up W Calderini says it's injection molded aluminum. Right, because it's using a bunch of recycled aluminum. That's crazy. Dude, that is freaking nuts. Yeah, Current Your Sucks says, yeah, it's not CNC. It feels like it could be. It feels really great.

2:03:58It feels like it could be. like i do not detect any difference in the rigidity of this chassis and in the deck flex of this chassis that makes me feel like i'm missing out on anything for it not being unibody uh monkey type okay hold on i need just like uh what the bloody heck of pages that's right oh no i was just saying go to the website monkey type it's a it's like a typing test Sure. It's just really easy. I don't know. It's what I use when I'm usually using keyboards. You don't know what to type, and then this gives you, like, an objective. I don't care what speed you come out with. Yeah, for sure.

2:04:37Oh, I was about to say, well, hey, I should just plug into HDMI, and then everyone can just watch along with me. Yeah, that is a downside. I have a dongle. See who can get their dongle first. Nah, I just gave up. All right. I don't go anywhere without one anymore.

2:04:59Dan also went and grabbed one for everyone that couldn't see that. Dongle life. Dongle life, boys. Allow accessory to connect. I mean, we don't have to show people. Why not? We're having a live experience here. It's an experience. Oh, right. I got to make sure I plug into the USB 3.1. I think it's actually the back one. Is it indicated anywhere? Yeah, software. Use other port for display. That's not bad. That's pretty. that's actually a pretty seamless experience as far as intuitive one might say this kind of this kind of sucks that only one of them supports display but at least they're using software to make it a somewhat palatable experience for the user good luck getting it to work with my system here oh really is that going to be a problem if you can output 1080 and it not be pretend 1080 I hate that on Mac.

2:05:49Mac is pretty bad for it. Windows now, Windows 11, also bad for it. It actually really depends on the system. I think NVIDIA in particular works a little bit better. AMD seems to really struggle with it. I'm just checking here for you. Yeah, we ran into that when we were doing a game stream a little while ago, too. I think it was Intel and... That's right, yeah. Or was it AMD that was having the trouble, though? It's not. I can't remember. I think it was AMD. that we were having trouble with where it was like 1920 by 1200 i am getting it was outputting at um 1920 by 1080 but it was actually a 4k signal or something like that that was like like four to one or something it was ridiculous so yeah i tried 1920 by 1200 are you getting it i'm seeing it but i'm not getting it into my system here okay you'll have to give me a second that was no i'm over it okay

2:06:46that looks pretty smooth what age do you mind too damn you jinxed me

2:07:11okay so a new keyboard you're not used to uh yeah for a brand new keyboard i'll take 98 words per minute with 96 accuracy thank you very much very and you were i i think the the meta on monkey type is not to go back and correct and you were going back and correcting so you can see your speed going roof because you were going back i guess that's so you probably even would have been a little fat there's the i think the 101 was your like true speed or whatever where's that raw is 101 raw input was 101 yeah so 101 words per minute on a freaking keyboard i've never touched before like literally basically first typing other than the password man so i take it keyboard feels pretty good yeah yeah she's she good nice um just like not cheesy stupid regular old function keys like i know nothing that's fine mac os it has steam on it track hats fine oh yeah yeah yeah yeah labs has been at this already this is not no i know labs has been after it yeah yeah there's steam for mac os i picked it up from that's why i brought it because it was in the lab how much stuff is like not much yeah okay but like you know there's games like here just like on linux it has a little mac pilled uh filter that you can apply to it that's a few so on the labs account we got baldur's gate 3 you know quality game that people enjoy i heard it's pretty good control ultimate edition counter-strike 2 cuphead cyberpunk dota factorio hitman world of assassination rise of the tomb raider tomb raider sid meyer's civilization 6 um hey that's a it's it's pretty good at this point yeah so seven never will be but it is back to the perspective adjustment if you think of your mac as a console um then you know and you just go with whatever game your mac happens to run then you could you could find stuff to play um man that's high dpi freaking screen at 600 this is gonna completely destroy the like i need a laptop for my kid or my grandma market.

2:09:23I would just buy this. It's honestly like... I would just buy this. Build quality wise? No question. It seems like it's just actually kind of great. Great. Like, what the heck? At this price, it's unrealistic. Basically, if you can keep your tabs under control so you're not going to use more than the 8 gigs of RAM, it's going to be fine. Yeah. Unreal. Oh, sorry. I'm not put back in, Dan. That's actually super impressive. This is all you need to know. I've heard. I know we... This is all you need to know. The fact that he couldn't resist touching it. It's a Mac. Yeah. I don't think that's ever happened before.

2:10:08That's a pretty good point. He wanted to touch it and play with it. Yeah. I've never seen that. Yeah. I don't think I have either. I didn't do that like consciously. I was just like oh that's interesting and wanted to like Check it out I knew you wouldn't be doing it consciously You just I put it there and you couldn't help it You were like this can't be as good As he's making it sound I'm gonna touch it No I was pretty sold when you had me do the flex thing I was like are you kidding me on a$600 laptop That's insane I still don't know You couldn't help it You had to touch it You have to experience it for yourself I still don't like I tried to open up like a menu or something and a bunch of emojis came up like I still have no idea How Mac OS works?

2:10:57Mac OS and me just do this, but it's not actually Mac OS's fault like it it seems like it's really intuitive for a lot of people I just I'm just so not there's a lot of things that also people who use Mac OS just wish they would change Yeah, like one of the ones that drove me absolutely knocking futz during my last uh switch to mac was that the natural scrolling versus inverse scrolling direction apple's logic is that if you like it one way for your trackpad even open you also like it doesn't care i know it's crazy if you like it one way for your trackpad you also like it the same way for your mouse wheel so when you change that toggle in mac os they're bound so every time I switched between using a trackpad where I like natural scrolling and using a mouse where I like literal directional scrolling I had to change it I think there's I think there's a little app that you have yeah so just like anything on macOS there's someone built an app to fix it because Apple can't be bothered but it would really just be better if Apple just like decoupled those things in the menu because a mouse and a trackpad are not in fact the same thing so how about we not treat them as the same thing that'd be great anyway there are things about mac os that are actually just pants on head stupid but um there's also things that are very intuitive to people to whom they're intuitive what's interesting is this laptop has come back as 1920 by 1260p.

2:12:33So maybe there was just something that wasn't cromulent with the dock. But okay. Be interesting to see. Andre B asks, Linus, how is that different than Linux? And someone built something to fix a problem they had. That Apple is a multi-trillion dollar company. That's the problem. I hate, one of my least, and I understand this is like, I'm going to be biased here. I fully understand that. But one of my least favorite takes is when like I'll point at like Google or microsoft or discord like i'll make fun of teams and people will be like float plane has bugs like dude yeah but like four people like the scale is so the team that works on emojis on teams is almost certainly larger than the entire float plane team so we don't even want to hear it yeah it's it's just like man you gotta understand the scale of certain things and you got to understand the importance of the work that they're doing floatplanes work is incredibly important to us and our legion of dedicated people who support us on floatplane thank you guys very very much any other creators on full plane but realistically if floatplane you know had something suboptimal we're talking about tens of thousands of users and accessing a service that is not critical to them like getting their work done for the most part the like economy of a huge part of the world yeah relies on people using teams efficiently and effectively yeah like we're not we're not talking about we're not talking about parallel software efforts here okay yeah oh i love i love it when people make an effort to make an analogy and i appreciate i appreciate their effort i appreciate their sacrifice yeah all right why don't we jump into facebook launching a new monetization program to attract popular creators from tiktok and youtube well this is the first time hearing of it so how popular could they possibly be it no i'm just kidding uh facebook has launched creator fast track paying established creators guaranteed monthly income for three months to start posting reels on the platform by the way your company has heard of this you just haven't right a thousand dollars a month for creators with a hundred thousand plus followers on tiktok youtube or instagram and three thousand dollars a month for those over a million content doesn't need to be exclusive to Facebook and old catalog content qualifies.

2:15:10After three months, the guaranteed pay stops, but creators keep access to Facebook's content monetization tools and get an ongoing reach boost. Facebook paid out nearly$3 billion to creators in 2025, a 35 % increase year over year. So here's my problem with this. Obviously, I'd be surprised if we don't sign up for this because, yeah i'll take meta's free money thank you very much put that in uh you know the fund to pay people with or you know beautify the office or do whatever the crap else it is that we're doing around here with our money um wait i agree this is linus's only poison you think i don't read the things you type in chat what is this i meant to type position oh it is clearly oh okay uh it is critical to the world that we get our float plane videos what do you mean says one of our float and i said i agree this is only linus's position okay i get it all right i get it but i accidentally typed poison what are you talking about my poison in here for yeah i know why is float plane conspiring i was just joking and then i just completely typoed a whole word and made it very confusing uh okay so obviously i'll take meta's free money i'm sure yeah that'll help to fund various endeavors around here that we that we do um but i have about this much faith in their ability to build a creator monetizing system that is as powerful as what YouTube has done.

2:16:40For me, the bigger question is, will YouTube continue to degrade in quality and eventually meet Facebook where they are, making Facebook competitive? Because Facebook has tried to compete in creator monetization before. They had a whole program. They were like, we're launching video and then it turned out a lot of the stats for their engagement with that was actually very fake and um although the whole tv industry and especially newsprint industry is legitimately fake yeah and how are they doing these days yeah that's fair so so facebook did that whole push and then completely abandoned video creators and then didn't the same thing happen with live streaming?

2:17:26So here's my issue, Facebook, is YouTube, for all of their warts, has been shockingly consistent. They have never altered the deal on the payout for VOD content. And while they didn't really have to, they created a reasonable program for shorts as well that shares revenue with the creators who create on their platform and who give their platform any value. I don't think that Facebook really understands the value of original human crafted content. Facebook seems to be perfectly happy to simply maximize engagement with any slop garbage on their platforms. And that fundamental inability to understand what makes YouTube valuable, what makes youtubers interesting for people to engage with and the fact that facebook has tried to court creators before and utterly failed because they just altered the deal and and bailed gives me zero faith that they understand what it is that people value about a platform like youtube and that they will be consistent and will be able to support this over the very long term that it's going to take to build that trust i just don't buy it however youtube also seems to be shifting their priorities and uh i'm not sure if youtube fully understands the value of what they created over the last 20 years anymore either really worried about that i'm getting pretty worried about it yeah um what was i gonna what was i gonna say i don't want to lose my thing man yeah i mean it's overall i think youtube has been a pretty good it's been a pretty good gig hasn't it i don't even and it's been pretty great to use as a user i was gonna say both sides like as it's all about stacking w's yeah the more wins it's been a win for sponsors and advertisers it's been a win for the creator economy it's been a win for viewers i think overall youtube makes more money on ads than like everyone yeah like it's clearly winning for them can we just not f*** it up and you've managed to do so for a really long time yeah like impressively very just keep going like say what you will about susan rest in peace right like clearly they did a lot right under her leadership and i'm just i i've met neil a couple times actually because he didn't used to be like the ceo big shot i never got to meet susan but i've met neil a handful of times and he's a super smart dude um i just i want to see i don't know i kind of i kind of want to chat with him you know just have a chat like what are we like what are we doing careful yeah can we please yeah can we please be careful it's just it's like you know everyone's driving down the road and like little normal cars and stuff and they're trying to like wow all the traffic is go by just roll a spaceship down the middle and they've managed to yeah for all of these years yeah and now they're screwing around and it's like we can't watch it terrible analogy but watch it because like the potential damage is just so high yeah so high um i i think like i i think you kind of compared it to the library of alexandria sort of yeah no not sort of directly i've believe it's a wonder of the world we are legitimately at risk of losing it like it's actually very important that they like i mean their head on their shoulders i told you that uh during my during my vacation i learned how to strip down an rc car differential you did that of course i did i had to fix my washing machine a while ago youtube it's really important everything I like learn these days involves if not exclusively YouTube.

2:21:39So the almighty Q asks what are they doing that's so bad? It's not so bad as much as it is a direction. It smells weird. Yeah. The vibe is off as the kids might say. They're just they're doing stuff that's like it seems to not be aligned with the youtube identity it seems to want to be everything to everyone instead of be itself like i uh like my i forget why i was talking to my kids about this for some reason um about just like it um maybe it was to do with like their app usage or something like that, but it was just like how YouTube is not content to, no, it must have been Yvonne, how YouTube is not content to be YouTube.

2:22:35And they're so focused on how to compete with TikTok and how to compete with traditional media that they're losing track of what made them special in the first place. I don't want, I was talking to, yeah, I remember now, I was talking to Yvonne about how you felt the need to remove the YouTube app from your phone. as like a deep enjoyer of youtube yeah and how that felt how it feels like like an like a bad habit now or it can feel like a bad habit it's yeah it's um it's not good to me it feels like you and i are so deeply rooted in this so we can smell it already yeah because we're like right up in it we live it and i feel like this is maybe a windows like 10 moment windows 11 is maybe coming and we're worried about that and after windows 11 as far as we can tell is just death valley like so it's like i'm worried about where it could go because the vibe the leanings the direction and stuff are concerning like the parallels can't be ignored search has been fundamentally broken for years you're a goddamn search company how can your search be this bad one of the biggest criticisms right now of gmail and drive is it's impossible to find anything the search companies two of the search companies major products searches like the main complaint and has gotten actively worse it feels like yeah like this is bad it's it's very concerning and youtube is still great and yes gmail's still pretty cool still wonder of the world drive it's it's still like the best experience for a collaborative text editor that i've had docs but yes well yeah yeah um but it's in drive whatever um but it's it's the trend line it's doing that yeah maybe maybe that it's it's only a little down but it feels like it's down and that's just like oh no because this thing is extremely important so we needed to not go down um yeah anyways uh speaking of things uh getting worse a plex is now enforcing its remote streaming paywall on smart tvs starting march 23rd users on samsung lg visio playstation and xbox will need either a plex pass for 6.99 a month or the cheaper remote watch pass 1.99 a month to stream personal media outside their home network this has been rolling out since late 2025 but smart tvs are the latest devices to get hit it is important to note that only one person in the relationship needs to pay if the server owner has a plex pass which is still available in a lifetime form which makes a big difference to me it does actually when something requires a subscription i think that's pretty fucked up but when something can be purchased outright for access forever that helps a lot however when the deal is being altered that's pretty fucked up so we're kind of in a we're kind of in a fucked up sandwich here with some you know not fucked up meat in it if that makes sense anyway um an email went out to let people know that this is now starting to be enforced.

2:26:21And our discussion question is, Plex built its entire user base on being the free alternative to paid streaming platforms for filthy pirates. At what point does nickel and diming the core feature drive those users straight to something like Jellyfin? I mean, I think that point has been happening for an awful long time now. I still use it because I have a lifetime Plex pass, but there are certain aspects of Plex that are so degraded at this point that they're basically not functional. I mean, here, let's go to the Linus cam for a second here. I have my Plex up. My back button is just not working.

2:26:57The app's been so buggy for me lately. My system-wide back button works. So that's the magic of Android for you. That's wonderful. But this is something that I only just discovered because I haven't tried to download any media directly to my device lately. um so i i well it was really broken for years the the download feature and so i tried to download some stuff for the plane and here's a bunch of stuff that i downloaded so that's good it finally works i was able to i was able to download something to to my phone there you go oh well whatever the point is there you go there you go it's working okay so that's cool intro skip intro skip is working that's a good that's a good plex feature plex pass feature um but then here's something bad i'm just gonna skip over to the end of this blah blah blah blah blah blah blah okay we got we got 12 seconds left um you might have noticed that interface looked kind of crap right pretty crap interface just a list of files sure oh yeah yeah yeah uh whereas the plex app used to support sorting all of your downloads like according to the show that they are and the the episode that they are and stuff now the list of files not only is not sorted in any meaningful way did you notice the next file didn't start playing

2:28:21so so this is you don't want that yeah the random random snippets of the episode just play until it crashes that's odd is it just a bug what year is it luke and then it just dumped me back on it dumped me back on the file list what year is it that i can't just play back a basic video file on my phone

2:28:52that's a little odd how is it that a company whose entire job is playing video files that's your that's actually your job is that there's a video file and it plays on the device that i play it on i'm not even asking to stream it you don't have a functioning player that doesn't just bug out when i play a file it is 2026 and it's so wild to me that companies like this i just looking stuff up and i'm trying to find like actual stats on this uh but it sounds like they're they were like nearing profitability in 2024 they've existed for so long i i just i just i just don't i don't understand it at what point do they just throw away whatever code they have and just use vlc like i just honestly though what is the for what plex is i'm a little surprised they bother to have their own player to be honest like i i i i i i yeah uh humanoid says just give you a plain file download well that's the that's the thing i don't always want just a plain file download because i want to transcode it so this is transcoded so to plex's credit it managed to do that mostly i think uh i had about a five percent fail five percent fail rate and i couldn't even in regards to what your local phone sees that it could still be a plain file download oh well yeah so so to plex's credit they did do the transcode but yes that's all i have on my phone is a plain file and what was really irritating was because it stores the data in a um within some look i'm not an expert on android file management so because it stores the data within the app i guess rather than within the folder structure in a way that is user accessible i couldn't even open up vlc and then just browse to it like it's not just in your downloads folder which it for i don't see any reason why it couldn't just do why not it already has weird limitations where it like only works if you like have that screen open stuff reliably and theoretically it can do it in the background i think but it like only maybe like sometimes works uh anyway weird company though yeah weird company i don't know i wish i just like i wonder how much money they have i wish them luck to be all that have devs and do things.

2:31:39Overall, I love the idea of the product and I mostly love what the product mostly is. We've even like, we've worked with them. We've done some sponsorship stuff with them in the past. I think Colton's team is in talks about like getting LTT on their like free Plex platform. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Luke, Dan and I used Plex for a movie night, like not that long ago. that was pretty cool it was something that um none of us had a physical copy of or even a not physical copy of and we wanted to watch dr strange love and it was just like on plex and we just watched it and it was a pretty great experience worked perfect yep um also worked perfect like 10 years ago though no i don't think plex had um just like movies integrated 10 years ago oh that was theirs yeah that was theirs i forgot that was there yeah yeah yeah that was pretty cool yeah do you ever think you'll switch to jellyfin asks black raven i i i'm just gonna have to at some point i i don't i don't feel like i'm being given a choice i guess that's the point of that i was of what i was trying to say like when i criticize plex it's coming from a place of rooting for them i i want them to succeed i want them to build a great product that i'd be proud to support and proud to use.

2:33:06And you know what? It's much like the way I feel about Windows. I am not anti-Microsoft in that way. There's certainly some things Microsoft have done that are hard to support, but I want to love Windows. I want to use it. Some of the things about Windows are pretty magic. The fact that I can fire up software from 25 years ago and just run it on my computer. 25 years ago if you fired up software from 25 years prior and just expected it to run good fucking luck good luck brother if you wanted to run 1985 software on your windows xp machine come on man that's what oh no not even not 1985 that'd be like 1975 yeah that's why i'm like uh yeah what was software even like yeah like like think about that and sure not all of it works but you know compatibility mode or you know whatever right but you get what i'm talking about here right like a lot of it does work and that's remarkable that's incredible i could go get my old anno 1602 disc that i originally played on windows 98 98 i think and i could probably put that in my computer today and have some chance of running it that's pretty awesome I like Windows or at least I want to they're just making it really hard

2:34:31yeah yeah like really really really hard so hard getting a raging love for Windows I think it's leading over here

2:34:43alright do you want to pick a topic no I don't want to do that uh what do we want to do digs open beta i knew it i i called it i had it open on my screen i knew it digs open beta shuts down after just two months blaming ai bot spam oh dig shut down its open beta get him out of here get him out of here uh exactly two months after launching on january 14th after AI-driven bots and SEO spammers overwhelmed the platform within hours of launch. The team banned tens of thousands of accounts and tried multiple third-party tools, but nothing worked. It's worth pointing out that founder Kevin Rose had pitched AI as the fix for moderation headaches back in 2025, saying it would remove the janitorial work and it ended up becoming the problem.

2:35:41Not the attempt of it removing janitorial work, just ai being the generation of all the garbage dig isn't permanently dead a smaller team is staying on to rebuild and rose is returning full-time in april but ceo justin mazel admitted that positioning dig as a reddit alternative wasn't imaginative enough oh boy i there we're not a hundred percent certain but we think that somebody that applied to something i actually have to be that vague unfortunately um used not only an ai generated resume but an ai generated portfolio website we think that both happened from the same person same person oh and one of the reasons why is there's like kind of specific wording on the portfolio website that was used in the job posting like very specific wording oh so it's like a it's like a resume creation tool that you just insert the job posting into and then it out an optimized resume for that job posting and portfolio site which is the crazy part to me wow uh we're not 100 sure sure oh this is like this is a crazy arms race though i was reading you know those business insider articles that end up in your newsfeed every once in a while i've applied for i've applied for 500 jobs and haven't gotten a single one first of all piece of advice if you're hoping to get a job probably the last thing you want is a profile of you in business insider saying that 500 other companies already decided i'm not good enough i look i we should we should talk about we should talk about challenges maybe just don't use your real name you might want to anonymize it a little send in an ai picture and change the name but anyway um the point is that that in a world where people have to apply for 500 jobs and in a world where companies are filtering through hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of ai generated resumes and applications this arms race is only going to make this problem worse luke because if you had already applied to 499 jobs what are the odds and knowing that probably nobody's even going to read it and sending in an AI built optimized to be read by an AI resume was maybe a better shot of at least getting a chance to have an interview.

2:38:11Would you consider it? Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. I would. 100%. It's interesting too, because like someone in full plane chat, I lost it, but someone in full plane chat said most companies, like most companies, oh, there it is. Sinful Hands said in fairness, most companies don't even read resumes. It's going through a filter AI. Yeah, exactly. Which is interesting. I don't know if that's true. Really? My wager would be that most current job openings are going to be at a company that filters or uses AI review or whatever. Oh, I see. I don't think most companies are. I suspect if you go for smaller companies...

2:38:54They probably aren't using it as much. Yeah. I think it's less likely as you go down the chain and it's more likely as you go up the chain. But then a lot of small companies... And I'm not trying to call your thing out as being wrong. I think it is effectively a correct statement. I just, I just, I'm kind of saying that for people that are applying to jobs to kind of maybe tune your approach a little bit. If you're applying to a mom and pop shop, just know that it's probably less likely that they are using AI filtering. Like maybe put your resume in an envelope and handwrite your name on the envelope.

2:39:24Maybe. You know, maybe the kinds of touches that show... And that's not going to work for Google. Yeah, yeah. Aside from what you write in the content of your cover letter, show that you understand their vibe. And when they're getting inundated with very AI feeling resumes. Something handmade. And they're tired of, oh yeah, okay, this is another AI generated resume. And then they get something that feels real, whether it's handmade or just feels real at all. Yeah. Like I'm literally wondering at this point if I see a typo in a resume if I'm going to think it's like a good thing. i probably not i hate but i don't i'm not sure if i disagree with you know what i'm saying i know i hate that because not that long ago i would have said really get out of the world of spell check you can't care enough you can't be bothered to run it through a spell checker that would have been my like you know i i'm obviously amping it up a little bit but but that would have been my thought it's like really you don't care enough time to typo every word to bother to spell check right whereas now don't do that whereas now i would almost feel like because this is too perfect you didn't bother to type it yourself if yeah if someone dumps something on me that is like very obviously ai written and it's supposed to be like about them it does start to feel weird because it doesn't feel like they're talking to me you know what i mean um so it's like okay I'm now interfacing with the AI representative of you instead of you.

2:41:01Yeah. And that literally their agent. Yeah. It doesn't feel a hundred percent correct. So I don't know. And this is, you're going to have to roll this gamble. And I mean, ways of doing resumes has always been a gamble. People have said the one page thing forever, but then there's people that want more information. There's some people that are going to jump through and only look at your education. There's some people that jump through other stuff. So it's always been a gamble, but this is just another way of kind of looking at it is the different size of the company might impact the way that you want to apply to it but yeah good good now let's talk about the way we apply our sponsors to this video the show is brought to you by zero bounce depending on the business reaching out to potential clients partners and customers via email can be a huge part of your marketing strategy but how good is that strategy if you and your team are sending emails to addresses that just don't work.

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2:43:43he's doing a diy router table with tynan he had a whole bunch of really cool stuff and nate's a super fascinating character you name something he's knowledgeable about it he's into it sweet um he even comes to badminton night unlike some people i know luke dan anyway if you want a chance to win your very own 9800x3d you can enter amd's latest giveaway at the link in the description uh amd also has a discussion question for us have you ever built or upgraded a pc because of a specific game what game and how did that work out for you i built uh i built a new computer for colton for diablo 3 and he still owes me lunch wow that was a while ago yep what a deadbeat still owes me lunch absolute deadbeat um it's an inside joke he doesn't actually only i did not build a computer for it but i was very jazzed even though i'd never played half-life and i didn't really like understand all the hype around it because i'd never played it um but people were so hyped that i just got kind of swept along with the hype and excitement and i was very jazzed that my all in wonder 9600 pro included a coupon for half-life 2 do you remember that it was a whole thing where you know just valve time things there were they partnered with ati to do free copies of half-life 2 with gpus and then by the time the game actually came out i had actually upgraded my gpu i never played half-life 2 on my own wonder 9600 pro that included the game i didn't play half-life 2 till i had uh an x x800 card i think pretty funny right that is pretty funny yeah so yeah it didn't work out that great classic valve time all right let's jump into our next topic here you want to pick one or shall i uh i will yeah yeah yeah uh if you don't have one i have one no i go for it yeah all right this is great check this out yeah okay what

2:45:56is this fake this has got to be fake initially it looks really fake yes

2:46:09but that looks really real

2:46:17the reflections look pretty good the reflections You were pretty sure it was fake, right? I was so sure it was fake. Is this real? It's real and old. It's apparently old. It predates AI. Yeah, I was like, part of me thought I had seen it before, which is actually why I thought it was fake, not why I thought it was real. I actually did not know this was old. Okay, so fine. Apparently, this is not news. Walmart does not do this in Canada.

2:46:52the reason that i put it in the doc though was i wanted to discuss like you know drone delivery packages because this has basically been promised since drones first became accessible as a consumer item yeah right like i'm bet there's a wan show from 10 years ago of us being like oh man like quadcopters quadrotors are so cool i i can't wait till they can bring a pizza directly to my bedroom window and then i just you know swipe my mag stripe card because we didn't have tap to pay yet did we i don't know 10 years ago whatever the point is i can't wait to to put my mag stripe card in the drone's butt cheeks and then you know take my pizza and everything's amazing and futuristic

2:47:38um in terms of solving that problem do you feel like we're really any closer to you ordering something off of not at all uber eats or safe fly lanes dude walmart i think we're further actually really i think there's been more laws put in to stop that type of stuff since then than anything that would enable it um i think hearing stories self-promotion of my sick ass cool ass dope ass brother um he's a firefighter for city of vancouver hearing some of the stories of like someone will try to get cool fire footage on a drone and the the blades will melt and they'll just and the firefighters will have to like retreat and wait if people are flying drones in because they're like actually really dangerous especially when people have the like older heavier ones uh like it's it's actually just like not okay you're in a huge building fire it's like five stories up and it just comes flying down uh even the the the light ones that you don't need uh like a permit for and all of that what what is it 250 grams i'm not sure drone weight limit the drone that there was a drone that hit a canadian water bomber and i think it took the water bomber out of service or something 250 grams now hold on a second that doesn't sound like a lot but that's half a pound if somebody were to drop a half a pound rock on your head from five stories you'd be pretty upset and they got helmets and stuff but like you don't know how big it is you don't know how much it weighs you don't know you can't tell that what if something's attached to it to make it weigh more what if it's like someone actually trying to be a jerk you have no idea um yeah uh there was a drone that hit and damaged a water dropping canadian super scooper um and the aircraft was grounded after managing to land safely e gadget guy says there are problems it's plastic though i mean it doesn't matter at that at that speed yeah wait what weight is weight 250 grams of anything hitting you from five stories that matter at all well it matters a little bit because there's going to be potentially some given it oh but also maybe not because if it strikes you like battery first then there's no give in that there's also like i mean if you're flying it through a fire you might not necessarily be caring too much about the local laws of what you can fly yeah and and it's and the air resistance like it's not it's not one of those things where it's just like okay well what if it was what if it was half a pound of feathers and it's like well yeah because there's air resistance but just because it's made of plastic doesn't mean that this air resistance is going to be any higher than if it was a rock once that yeah once the wings are basically gone density plays a role yeah guys but like these are pretty sort of come on have you seen the size figure it out have you seen the size of those drones they're still just gonna freaking okay i'll tell you what anyone arguing this point right now anyone arguing this point okay with hard hats okay because we're firefighters if you are willing to stand under a five-story building and have us drop a half pound drone onto your head and have it hit you in the head i'll stand under a five-story building and i'll take the rock okay if you think they're not the same thing and you think this is not a big deal let's go someone's gonna do this now that i mean i i don't think my side of the bed is ever going to matter because they're not going to be in any condition to okay they'd say they'll survive yeah they'll be fine this is a very bad idea the problem is that you don't know that it's that light um it could be anything the one that i know of that i remember firefighters actually retreating for um or that's what i heard at least there was multiple of them and this was quite a few years heavier a lot heavier these were like bigger drones right um so it was like actually kind of a problem um like what did a phantom four way and you know it was probably honestly it was actually probably remember these bad boys no like this is the era that when these were prime oh god so these were like three pounds yeah and i'm thinking about it now it wouldn't have been five stories up it would have been a lot higher because it's above that would have killed a man it's above the building yep even the half pound ones though like none of this matters because getting hit by a half pound one is not good i don't know yeah i'm not saying it's good but i'm saying when it's this era when everybody's running around with phantom fours and there was like no regulation it's like not actually five stories up it's like probably seven or eight because it's trying to actually see the whole building from above which i'm realizing now like it gets pretty sketch um Yeah, let me see if I can find it.

2:52:56All right. I think the primary problem is the water bombers. Apparently, unauthorized drone flights have repeatedly forced firefighters in British Columbia to halt aerial firefighting operations, causing dangerous delays to primarily wildfires. That's nuts. Because it can hurt the planes. People are so stupid. Crazy, man. It's shocking how stupid people can be sometimes.

2:53:26Let's see. What do I want to try to segue this into? Oh, this is a good one. Uh, co-founder of Google, Sergey Brin, uh, has spent so far$45 million to fight the California billionaire tax. At what point would it be more cost effective to just pay your f***ing taxes? Like, seriously, though. I pay my taxes why why is this a fight why does this have to be a fight 45 million dollars now in fairness to Mr. Brin it is estimated that he would owe upwards of 12 billion dollars in taxes given his net worth of 247 billion dollars um but also like i don't know dude i apparently he changed his address to try to avoid it yeah um former google ceo eric schmidt also a co-founder of google uh also contributed over three million dollars to this meanwhile jensen huang uncharacteristically um going with the popular thing to say here has reportedly told Bloomberg that he is perfectly fine with the tax um I don't actually know the details of the billionaire tax do you know much about um California's proposed tax not in that bracket brother also not in that country nor that state I have no idea I'm not in any of those things either sounds like a good thing it's interesting screw them well here's the thing it only works if everyone works together to tax the ultra wealthy because the ultra wealthy are literally the most portable people on the planet um and most influential yeah so they can they can just well it's the portability that matters for for everyone to work together on making sure that they're taxed because as soon as you tell them yeah we're gonna tax you they can just leave like he apparently did and there are actually economic problems with all of the rich people just leaving.

2:55:45No, it's not as simple as, well, who's going to create the jobs now? Like that whole argument is phenomenally stupid, but also the, well, there's not going to be any impact because everyone will just pull together and, and, and will, and everything will be exactly as fine as it was before. It's also not true. As usual, the truth lies somewhere in between it is it is good for the economy to have business leaders that that is that is true but no we're not completely dependent on them either um so let's see let's have a look here a one-off five percent tax so five percent one time and it's a it's a tough thing to do like i even talked about this in the how does lmg spend money video where if you were to tell me okay we're going to give you a tax for five percent of your net worth today um i don't know that i would be liquid enough to sustain regular business operations if it was based on like the the valuation of like companies that i own equity i think if you're a billionaire unless you're gaben which in that case it'll probably be fine I suspect you're owning public companies so you might need to reduce your ownership share in order to sell some stock to pay but then that would have a potentially pretty impactful knock on effect if all of a sudden and this is why rich people don't get taxed is that core argument yeah Gilmore D says I pay way more than 5 % of my net worth annually way more than 5 % I don't know if you fully understand what net worth is he might pay 5 % I pay more than 5 % of my net worth annually could you do that easily I guess you could if you're if you are yeah if you own nothing and are happy I suspect most people could do that easily yeah if you're not a homeowner then you could do it pretty easy and most people aren't let me see is that true i'm not sure if that's true it depends on which generation you're talking luke because i think uh baby boomers might might have a different definition of most people than uh gen z and upcoming gen alpha here so the break is above 30 25 to 29 only 36 percent yeah 36 and a half percent of them own down from 44 in 2011 yeah and 30 to 34 is 52.3 which is down from 59 in 2011 my generation already when we were graduating from university or not graduating in my case we already felt like the door had been closed behind the previous generation and we were like basically left to left with the scraps at super inflated prices and depending on the market you're in it got a lot worse after that um hey the good news in vancouver is uh things seem to be not reflected in the pricing necessarily yet but in terms of the demand in the market which will hopefully eventually impact pricing things seem to be uh i wouldn't say free fall but um you talk to like realtors they're like yeah it's dire oh yeah like like nothing's moving people aren't changing the price downwards but nothing's really moving so as someone who has had to um who has had to like buy properties before to accommodate business expansion.

2:59:35I have kept a pretty close eye on the commercial real estate market in the Vancouver area. I have never, Oh my God, Colliers, your website is such a piece of crap. Please, for the love of God, just work this one time, please. Oh my God. Can you just zoom in that area? Maybe. No. Hold on. I'm working on it. There you go. Just move a little. please oh it moved thank god okay um here we go that's why i use linux i have never seen it like this not only that that's a lot of places dude dude this is commercial yeah this is industrial and commercial i know and like i have seen this map before a long time ago and there was like a few dots even if i look at for sale that is nuts and what's really going to stand out hold on a second okay the quad dude it used to be everything was pre-sold like a year before they completed new price available that's a bd building oh yeah bd buildings would have been completely sold out like ages before completion dude they they finished the quad months ago and this is down in campbell heights which was like the hotness a few years back for development okay but hold on there's more here's that abandoned mall it's back on the market Do you remember the one we've talked about multiple times?

3:01:05Is this the haunted one or the other one? No, that was the hotel. For sale by court order. For sale by court order. For sale by court order. For sale by court order. Dude. Dude. There is price reduced. Court ordered sale as well. Also, someone's already trying to flip a building at the quad. The listing above was Beattie's listing. for sale for sale for sale price reduction dude i have never seen it like this price reduction for sale by court order it's happening it's bad it's happening no no but it's bad for landowners which i'm okay with because well i'm personally okay it's just i mean we're also looking at unemployment in canada at the same time though yeah what we hit 6.9 percent nice yeah yeah nice for sure yeah well i mean look it's the number luke it's not a good thing i'm just saying it's the number you can't we can't not acknowledge the number nice i'm just also dying yeah oh

3:02:12but hey things might get a little more affordable if you are one of the 93 that has a job and if that percentage doesn't go up uh yeah things have been a little tough in canada anyways let's talk about something else i'm getting sad okay i can find something better um um uh oh yeah oh video game age ratings are changing in europe i just got a headache no no this is good no it's just from the we're good starting in june 2026 peggy is overhauling its rating system so that monetization mechanics that directly determine a game's oh so that monetization mechanics will directly determine a game's age rating for the first time loot boxes and gacha systems will default to 16 and up games with nfts or unrestricted chat will go to 18 and up and time-limited offers like battle passes will land at 12 and up so ea sports fc which currently sits at peggy 3 could jump to peggy 16 under the new rules due to ultimate team card packs peggy director dirk bossman's notes an experimental rule a game triggered for a peggy 12 rating for battle passes can lower it to peggy 7 if they include a hard toggle to disable all spending by default um this is so based yeah it's really based i love it super based can the eu just like stop being so actually no i take that back can the eu keep being based and can the north americans get it together and be equally based or more based what if we had a baseness competition and everyone could see who can be the most based in terms of regulating bullshit that shouldn't exist or shouldn't be targeted at kids how about that yeah I like that what an idea one note on the previous topic some people asked does Canada have the same underemployment issue that America has what they mean by that is like people with big cool degrees working in lower end jobs or whatever there is also however a really big problem right now because the unemployment numbers don't sound that great in quite a few countries but what is also buffering that is that a lot of people are not able to properly claim unemployment because it is more advantageous for them to just like drive uber eats or do that grocery delivery thing or whatever the like uh gig economy jobs right a lot of those don't get counted as unemployment but if we're being honest with how much they pay you're not employed yeah um and that doesn't mean that working for yourself does not mean that you like have a job and are bringing in income but that means that gig economy stuff probably doesn't really count in regards to like you being able to realistically sustain yourself for a super long period of time um so like the real doesn't have a career number a solid, sustainable, going to cover your back, giving you health benefits career number is way higher.

3:05:29I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if Canada's is like 10 or over. If we're counting all of that. I have no idea, but there's so many different factors in here that aren't being counted. Don't forget about all the people who immigrate here and have like super badass credentials back home, but can't use them here. No, this is what I mean. Oh, you mean - That's what I mean by underemployment. No, no, I know. I just mean, I thought you were just talking about that in the context of locally trained people who just are not able to find a job in their trained field. Yep. Yeah. We had like super turbo immigration for probably about the last 10 years.

3:06:07And a lot of it was not seemingly thoughtfully done. Yeah. is all I'm going to say. Canada lived off immigration. We were a massive country with no population. We lived off immigration. Our immigration model was like extremely positively looked at worldwide. People would, other countries would refer to it as the Canada model and how they wanted to adopt or be more like the Canada model. It was awesome. And then we just made it dumb. And then we just went, as you said, turbo mode and didn't adjust housing, didn't adjust infrastructure, didn't really have a plan, and just flooded people in as hard as we could.

3:06:46And the structure... Not even as hard as we could. It was hard for me to... That's actually a good point. I'm going to bring up... I know where he's going. I've talked about this story before, but I'm going to bring up Mr. Dennis Liao. He doesn't work here anymore, but I love Dennis. He's amazing. He's amazing. I enjoyed working with him for all the years that I did. He was a super productive member of our team. And when I use the word productive, That has like an icky kind of, you know, HR corporate feel. But when I talk about productive in this context, I mean, he's the kind of person that you want in your country because he's going to come in and he's going to work.

3:07:24He's going to contribute to your GDP. He's going to pay taxes. He's, when he came in. He's going to be doing stuff. He was young. He's a doer. He was young. He had training in Canada. He went to BCIT. the bc is for british columbia okay he went to bcit spoke english was young was single didn't even have a bunch of like like non-working family you know baggage to bring with them and again i'm using this from like a like a gdp planning standpoint i'm we're ignoring the human element okay we're going purely like like cynical practicalism strategy hat yes yeah he should have been the easiest person in the world it was very tough to bring in and work for us and it was darn near impossible and it cost so much money and it took so much time and that was when we were turbo immigration and so i looked at it and i just went like i don't understand who is coming here yeah like i don't understand this we've had extremely from taiwan a liberal democracy he wasn't coming from somewhere where like there's a huge like values clash like it just seemed obvious you know we've had a bunch of people uh that we've had that are extremely valid to immigrate because of very specific difficult to get skills that are not findable in canada or, you know, similar stories that have been practically impossible to bring up.

3:09:01It's been really weird. And then, yeah, the immigration door has still been so, so, so open. But again, the biggest problem really was that we just opened the gate immigration-wise in a however way. And there was like huge companies bringing up in Canada that were like, oh, you want to immigrate to Canada? Pay us, a private company, a ton of money and we'll work you through the system. And that was like a huge thing in Canada. anyways we didn't adjust up anything to support them again all all of that stuff infrastructure housing policy policy nothing nothing adjusted we just immigrated crazy amounts of people like make it make sense like i uh like we we have the we have like ghost communities that are being like completely hollowed out and then we're just like okay yeah let's bring everyone in and dump them into the same three metropolitan centers yeah which is weird which is like well like wait hold on a second like what are we doing strategically as a nation to to to leverage these human resources which again is is not the kind of like like like icky you know resource management that that you know i want to do or that i feel comfortable you know even even advocating strongly for.

3:10:20But it just felt like, like, like I wouldn't say, okay, you know, yeah, you, you, if you immigrate to Canada, you have to live in, you know, Vernon for, for three years or something like that. Like, I don't, I don't know if that, I don't know if that would fly. I don't, I don't even, I wouldn't ask for that. But on the other hand, you know, we subsidize people's school in certain professions. And then we say, you can earn back your credentials if you work in a remote community or you do this or you do that. You contribute to the, you know, the greater strategy of, you know, what we're trying to achieve with those professions.

3:10:55So why wouldn't you necessarily employ a strategy like that for immigration? You bring in trained professionals and then you kind of go, okay, yeah, and we'll waive all these costs and we'll provide all this subsidy in order to grow in a way that's healthy and structured. Look, I'm coming up with this off the top of my head. It needs medical staff, like super bad. Sure. Like I don't, I don't actually have a clear plan because it's not actually my job to run the province or the country i'm just saying any kind of plan any plan might have been better than no plan there was no plan and there seemed to be no plan adam pointed out uh this is so hard to talk about because people hear what lanus and luke are saying and then say so immigration bad yeah we're not i that's why i prefaced it with like our immigration model was so good and we immigrated a lot of people yes we just i would literally be the stereotypical immigration hater who married an immigrant yeah yeah there's um a very genuinely common topic on wanshow back in the langley house was that canada had a lower population than california we used to talk about that all the time yeah it's a very common thing for us to bring up that is no longer true because we immigrated i think it was at least half a million people a year as a country of, at the time, less than 30 million people.

3:12:11It was crazy. And with no plans to support it at all. It was just wild. It was so wild. Yeah, anyways. It was insane.

3:12:31Yeah.

3:12:37uh what do we got here oh this is rough as reported by tom's hardware the header of silicon powers us online store so this is a ram company stated a full refund of the original price will be issued if there is a shortage of replacement products and this seems to be as a direct response to the scarcity of memory in the current market. However, as of now, it just says, SP has recently become aware of discussions regarding our RMA handling procedures. They're claiming that their SOP was not followed and that warranties will continue to be governed by their warranty policy. Oh, okay. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

3:13:20Oh, this is a nothing burger now. Forget it. This should have just been removed now that they have adjusted that. Adobe has settled their DOJ lawsuit for 150 million. this was a lawsuit brought by the department of justice and the ftc over its subscription canceling practices uh and i gotta say their subscription canceling practices i immediately my first thought when i saw them was that's got to be illegal like do you remember how i guess it used to work maybe they've changed it now where once you bought a seat you couldn't cancel that seat at any time you had to keep it for the entire year there's there's honestly there's subscriptions really need a look um slack kind of works this way but they're actually pretty no slack doesn't work that way never mind i take that back completely github is probably the easiest example here you have to buy seats and then you like assign users to the seats that's so archaic and should be removed it is clearly just a way to steal money from people like it's it's actually insane um anything that works that way is ridiculous you should assign a license to like a person an email whatever and the second they don't need that license anymore it should be gone it's not a seat that you then put an email in no screw that which is exactly a way to steal extra money which is exactly how the adobe one worked and as long as we were growing as a company it never actually impacted us because we never had any empty seats but then as soon as you had an absence if you had even even during the time it took when you had to backfill a position you were paying for a seat that nobody was sitting but here's the thing and this probably didn't happen we're a relatively small company but here's the thing it creates a weird cycle even when you are growing as a company where it's really annoying yeah to have to go through and buy a seat and then assign a purse and do all this kind of stuff So people will just buy bucket.

3:15:17The buy a seat thing has a changeable number of seats. And people will just be like, oh, whatever, just 10. And then they'll slowly fill them over the next couple months. So like for a lot of people, it does still cost some money, even if they're just growing. The lawsuit started back in 2024 with the U.S. government alleging that the company was burying early termination fees in fine print and behind hyperlinks when customers signed up for Creative Cloud subscriptions. Those fees could hit up to 50 % of the remaining subscription term. Yeah, okay, that's right. Which on annual plans could be hundreds of dollars.

3:15:48Ridiculous. On top of hiding the fees, Adobe was also accused of making the cancellation process as painful as possible, routing customers through multiple webpages and phone trees designed to delay and discourage them from actually cancelling. This$150 million is split into two halves. $75 million goes to the DOJ as a civil penalty, and the other$75 million goes toward free services for affected customers, though Adobe hasn't said who qualifies or what exactly they'll get. I'm not expecting anything. Adobe doesn't admit to doing anything wrong. This is so frustrating to me about settlements. I understand the idea behind settling out of court and that not necessarily meaning that you admit that you're guilty of anything.

3:16:30But if you're paying$150 million and you kind of go, yeah, but I didn't do anything wrong. And also, as part of the deal, you have to change what you're doing. Like, something here isn't adding up. You can't just be like, two plus two does not equal four. Right? I had to pay a gigantic penalty, and I have to do it a different way. But the thing I did, that wasn't wrong. Come on, man. Anyway, as part of the deal, they now have to clearly disclose termination fees and how they're calculated before people sign up, and they have to send reminders before free trials turn into paid plans. nobody is getting refunds for cancellation fees they already paid the free services are the only compensation on the table ridiculous for context on how little this actually hurts adobe the company pulled in 6.4 billion in revenue in q1 of 2026 alone this settlement is less than three days of revenue okay wonderful so this is about like uh median income vancouver okay so So 40, let's call it$45 ,000.

3:17:47If I made 45 ,000 a year, how much do I make in three days? Let's see if AI can do math. This will be fun. Approximately 100%. Okay. So this is about like a couple speeding tickets.

3:18:08Neat. so they're going to learn absolutely nothing in the same way that people who get a couple of speeding tickets probably don't take their foot off the accelerator okay cool well that's good very neat meta has removed or will remove excuse me end-to-end encryption for private instagram messages and this ended up being less of a big deal than i thought and yet an even bigger deal than i realized let's go through the dog first okay the feature will stop working after may 8th of 2026 but here's the thing end-to-end encryption on instagram was always opt-in and only available in certain regions first tested in 2021 and formally rolled out in late 2023 meta says that their reason for killing it is low user adoption okay so on the one hand i was like okay so this isn't that big of a deal because most people weren't using it anyway compared but then i was like wait but this is an even bigger deal because what it looks like to me is that meta is intentionally nuking this yeah because they intentionally implemented it in such a way that people wouldn't use it.

3:19:33And then I got even more depressed when I realized that this was a feature that was supported on a platform that a shocking number of people use to message each other. Like, f***ing why? Why do you need to message people on Instagram of all things? It's an app for looking at pictures or moving pictures as it were. Why do you need to, why do you, why would you need to message anybody there? It doesn't matter. I think I know. The point is they do. They had support for encryption and they're like, give it to meta i think my argument would be that it's it's not an app for looking at things anymore i know it's an app for sharing it to your friends so you're already in the share window and then you can say words in it but if you're cool you don't you just react to it and then send the next meme.

3:20:24Ah.

3:20:27Anyway, users with the existing encrypted chats will get in-app notifications to download their messages and media before the May 8th cutoff. Meta has not said whether these encrypted chats will be permanently deleted after the deadline. Meta is pointing users who want encrypted messaging toward WhatsApp, where end-to-end encryption is on by default for all messages and calls. critics have pointed out that this timing lines up with growing legislative pressure around child safety and age verification laws and with coming eu rules around the application of end-to-end encryption boo in other news samsung has reportedly ceased production of their uh galaxy z trifold after just three months they're ending sales um saying that they never intended for the phone to be a mass market product evidently they saw the trifold as a technology showcase to demonstrate samsung's foldable engineering not as a revenue generating product i actually believe that um rising costs of core components like d-ram and nand flash and application processors apparently left virtually no profit margin on the device so as part of the limited release the phone was only sold directly through samsung.com in small batches each batch sold out in two to five minutes they apparently moved around 3 000 units across the first two allotments i was really expecting this to uh like be released and i was gonna buy one so that's kind of a bummer demand for the phone was apparently so high that it was trading at nearly three times its retail price on the secondary market in south korea samsung's mobile coo said last month the company hasn't decided whether the trifold will get a sequel citing manufacturing complexity but did say that some of its features like the widescreen aspect ratio could come to cheaper fold the bulls over time oh i would uh you know it's funny because as a company like samsung i would think that i would see this situation and go oh well we should just charge three times as much for it and then make more of them and then it would definitely be profitable am i missing something here because like i see why musicians like i see why artists don't just charge three times as much for their concerts because like there's the optics like that's something that we actually but i think the 3 000 people that bought the trifold for three thousand dollars could probably still afford it if it was five thousand dollars yeah like if you bought a three thousand dollar phone you probably don't care yeah so this is clearly a luxury item but like we even leaned into into the the the whole concern around pricing for events when we named our land whale land we were like oh yeah we're well, we're going to acknowledge that we could charge as much as we wanted for this thing because people are going to come to it anyway.

3:23:11We'll call it Whale Land and we'll have whale tickets for the people who would pay$5 ,000 to come. We're going to make it a good value for them. You're going to get a computer included in that. Like we're not actually looking to milk anyone. And then, but that revenue will help subsidize it for all the people that we can like charge a reasonable price for. But you have to find a balancing act because you don't want to charge so little that you just sell it immediately and people get mad at you. but you don't want to charge so much that people feel like you're overpricing it and making it out of reach for fans and then they get mad at you but like samsung what's their concern there why do they care like if i yeah if i'm taylor swift or whatever i want to find that balancing act for you know my concert ticket so that people are not you know upset one way or the other but they could just have a five thousand dollar phone right am i missing something here guys

3:24:00at the end said uh taylor swift absolutely drags her sad fans over the coals for concert tickets not as much as people would pay though yeah that's what i'm saying which is crazy like people will pay multiple times her face value on the ticket to go to her concert so she could go higher that's that's all i'm trying to say um um ticket master intensifies all right guys

3:24:32uh i think we've just got one more big topic and then we can move into after dark congress is fighting over oh no let's i'm gonna ignore that one reddit users uncover a reddit user uncovers who's behind meta's lobbying for invasive age verification technology Meta spent a record$26.3 million on federal lobbying in 2025, deploying 86-plus lobbyists across 45 states, which is more than Snapchat, Apple, Microsoft, and NVIDIA combined. Part of that operation involved covertly funding a group called the Digital Childhood Alliance, a coalition presenting itself as a grassroots child safety organization with 140-plus members.

3:25:10Despite coordinating a 20-plus state legislative campaign with confirmed tech funding, the DCA reports an anomalously small amount of gross receipts to the IRS, under$25 ,000, and its website went live fully formed within 24 hours of domain registration. Doesn't really seem like a grassroots organization, does it? Supplementary note on a common point of confusion. People have been saying online that Meta's lobbying effort cost$2 billion. This apparently is not accurate. the researcher analyzed$2 billion in grants across Arabella Advisors nonprofit, ultimately ruling that pathway out. Bloomberg reported that Meta is one of the funders of the DCA, citing three people familiar with the funding.

3:25:50When pressed in a Louisiana Senate hearing, the DCA's own executive director confirmed tech companies provide funding, but refused to name them, saying she didn't feel comfortable answering. The legislation that Meta is backing, called the App Store Accountability Act, would require Apple and Google to build and maintain age verification infrastructure at the App Store level. Critics argue this effectively creates a persistent identity layer that is queryable by every installed application. Social media platforms, including MetaZone, would face no equivalent requirements under the same bill. Note that two separate bills are being conflated in some coverage of this.

3:26:27Meta's bill, the App Store Accountability Act, places compliance on app stores like Google and Apple's app store, or Google Play and Apple's app store. A separate bill called the Digital Age Assurance Act goes further requiring device-level age collection baked into the operating system itself. Four states have now signed the App Store Accountability Act into law, Utah, Texas, Louisiana, and Alabama. In Louisiana alone, Meta deployed 12 lobbyists across nine firms for a single bill that passed with no opposing votes. the full investigation sourced from irs 990 filings senate lobbying disclosures state ethics databases campaign finance records and corporate registries has been published at tboteproject.com and is mirrored on github by the researcher under the handle upper up so this is pretty cool you guys should go check it out it's a pretty fascinating look into how money buys policy Yeah, and how that policy is not always obvious why we don't want it and why it's worth so much money for these companies to have it.

3:27:46Cool. Very. Is that the last topic? Yeah, why don't we do some After Dark, shall we? Yeah. Let's do it. well there was technically congress is fighting over user-generated content liability protections but i don't know if i want to talk about that right now

3:28:05dan hit me sure welcome to after dark yeah i got a few here nice hey lrld i guess this was from back when riley was still here ah oops rest in peace question for luke i'm a tech lead of a cross-functional team that's not really a question my company just introduced an ai first policy still not a question i personally hate ai and also communicate this to leadership any advice there's a question i'm gonna let you go first on this one i think what would you okay actually let's role play luke i've just had a meeting with terren and hold on uh our new policy is an ai first policy you communicate that you hate ai um to me clearly from the merch i checkout message um the policy hasn't changed now what do you do that wasn't really role-playing i basically just asked his question again uh i i i want to flip the script and what i'd be willing to compromise on is maybe you can just type it out because i'm assuming you want me to answer first anyways no no no i don't have an I'm very curious.

3:29:33I just want to hear your take. What you think I would do if you told me to do that. Oh, interesting. Okay, well, you're a subversive git. So what you would probably do. Oh, man, what would you do? And this is not a recommendation. This is you just saying what you think I would do. Yeah. So I think what you would do is you would be really sulky for a little while. I would ask what's wrong. and you would tell me, hey, I don't feel that that issue is resolved at all. You would lay out all of the things that you presumably have already told me because I'm kind of going based on this scenario here.

3:30:15You would say, I really feel strongly we shouldn't do this and here's the negative outcomes. And I'm assuming, I am role-playing right now because we don't have an AI first policy, but I'm kind of role playing the person that you're like hardlining who like, yeah, that I'm, cause there are things that I've hardlined, right? So I'm pretending that I would hardline AI. So I would say, look, I really need your support in this. And I feel like what you would probably do is you would do the bare minimum. You would put on a poop eating grin and you would, you would say the script to your subordinates.

3:31:00and then when it ultimately, but you wouldn't follow up with them. So you would support, you would pay lip service to the effort, and you would support it in that way, but with your body language, it would probably be pretty clear that you don't like it and don't think it's a good idea, and you wouldn't enforce that we do it, and then what you would do is you would wait several months, and then you would come back to it, and you would say, hey for all the areas where we've implemented this how's that going probably with a smug look and are we ready to reevaluate this and you wouldn't probably phrase it quite like that but you'd basically go i've thought this is stupid the whole time and here's the things that it has impacted negatively and are we ready to ditch this yet also you're dumb I think that's about what you would do

3:32:01so what I would maybe recommend that you do is uh uh um is I you know I'd make arguments um as to why it might not be a good idea and then try to work on a way that they can agree with you to do it that they think they are still doing an ai first approach even though it like isn't really try to try to find a way that makes them think that you're complying yeah you know we're not fooled but only like sort of do um and and not in the way that that story was said which is probably accurate but not in that way yeah getting buy-in ahead of time is really important to covering your own butt yeah because as a as a lead as a manager um you're in a really difficult position one sec i'm curious i'm curious sorry sorry sorry dan does that sound accurate as someone that i technically manage you can be honest yeah i think so okay sorry not advice so as a lead right like as a team lead you're being put in a really difficult position because your job ultimately right like you're gonna have whatever your quarterly kpis are and you're gonna have whatever is your formal job description but putting that aside your job is the success of the company, right?

3:33:39And if this company is not successful, you are ineffective as a leader. And sometimes you need to take bets and risks. And so you're in a difficult position here because if you are instructed to do something that will ultimately be detrimental to the company, even if it's in your job description that you need to listen to your direct superior or whatever, right? Then you're putting yourself at jeopardy in the longer term. However, if you don't tow the company line, then you are almost certainly putting yourself in jeopardy in the very near term. And so that's a really tough tightrope to walk. And so that's why that point that Luke made about getting buy-in for whatever your action is, put together a plan for what your AI-first implementation looks like and get someone to say, that sounds like good ai yes if you can do a couple small test cases for how it is successful make them feel like a success for having the idea and yes and run it like okay and find some studies because they exist of like highly dedicated we only do things through ai groups that have bombed and failed yeah show you put the work in and show you considered it and thought about it and found a better way because everyone likes a better way.

3:35:04And then find some hybrid approach that allows people that really hate it to not lean on it too much, but can also kind of encourage people to look into it and potentially use it properly and try to build some like workshops or something with your team to show them or work with them to find ways that they can use it to benefit them individually. I have found more and more over time. For a while there, I was like a lot of people use AI wrong. There is a correct way to use AI. And now I think a lot of people use AI wrong. There are correct ways for individual people to find benefits in it. And there are ways that I know of people that I've recommended people use AI in certain ways, and they found tons of success in it.

3:35:46That are not ways that I use it. At the end of the day, though, it's useful for them. If you want to keep your position, you're going to need to get buy-in both up and down the chain. so just like saying yes yes yes and then like venting to to your your supporting teams about it is is not going to work for you and saying no and being an obstruction to instructions filtering down is not going to work for you you're going to have to find a way to get buy-in on both sides and it's and there's not going to be easy there is very often a middle and in this scenario i so i suspect there's a middle um i just yeah you got to find a thing that fulfills their you know and like in as someone who gets spam emails from companies that know the positions i have and stuff like that and and gets uh lots of news fed to me by google and various other groups because of the positions that i have and whatnot man there is a lot of money being spent on trying to tell leaders of companies that they have to do this.

3:36:54So just understand that they're very likely trying to do the right thing. A little bit of empathy never hurts. And are just being told by an incredible amount of different vectors that this is the right thing to do. So they're trying to do it. And add some information to the conversation and come up with an approach that makes them not feel like an idiot. and you know okay we're still going to explore this potentially more than we did in the past but we're going to fetter it down a little bit and because of better to say do it a different way than like find a path that's best optimized for our strategic objective you know you gotta business talk a little bit our team and our goals it'll be most effective we'll get the most output whatever through this blah blah blah and show test cases where things went poorly show test cases where things went well.

3:37:50I found something that can help your argument actually is if you don't just show like a mono story. Like if you show like, okay, here's a bunch of test cases. Three out of four of these went really poorly. This one did go really well, but like the chance of us landing that is really low. So let's maybe like go for this kind of other thing. Make it look like you actually did look at both sides of the argument. That can also help and actually do it. I didn't mean make it look like you did. Actually do it and then present the whole findings. That can be good.

3:38:26A question for Luke as a fellow fan. Oh, hold on. We got one more. We got one more from a professional communicator on our team, our customer service supervisor. Adam says, TLDR, express your disagreement, find common ground, commit to whatever direction you land on. if you end up proven right you can always come back to the conversation but once you've committed to a direction you've got it you've got to sell it you've got to you've you you've got to commit to it you've got to move in that direction because if we're not all moving in the same direction if you've got people swimming this way and people swimming that way you're just going to end up going in circles yeah um it also said if you end up proven right you can gloat then and like kind of but i would just do that to like your partner or something um yeah i wouldn't gloat i left that out of his message on purpose yeah okay yeah i know how you mean it adam i know how you mean it but in air quotes it was in air quotes it was in air quotes well they're not air quotes when you write them down then they're just quotes i knew what he meant all right hit me dan a question for luke as a fellow fan of deck builders what kind of things do you want to see more of in the genre

3:39:49i'd like to see different themes i i i've had this idea in my head of like my favorite two like roguelike games in a long like in forever probably our ftl and slay the spy are one currently i still prefer one over two but they're tuning it they'll figure it out i'm i'm very confident in that um and i i always was like man it would be really cool if there was like uh you know spaceship themed one and then there's been a couple like ftl style deck builder games that have come out and they just really haven't hit but pretty much all the deck builders that i've played feel very like rpg coded warriors wizards stuff like that yeah like it's it's all like yeah like i literally ftl had i'm sorry so this fire has like clear warrior arc clear warrior archetype yeah clear rogue archetype clear like i don't know sorcerer archetype like it's just it's okay cool um so you want classes like uh you know desk desk jockey you know like uh like like low low mobility but like high intellect but zero magical affinity you know like uh i just i i don't know i i always imagined maximum cheeto consumption stats i always imagined like a slay the spire one where it was it was management of your whole ship but still a deck builder and you would like pull the idea that i had was that you would pull you you had multiple decks that you would pull from a certain amount of cards every turn and there would be four different things and one of them would be for like ship maintenance one of them would be for offense um and one of them would be for something and i thought of it like an energy type system and blah blah blah i had all this kind of stuff and then every time that a ship spaceship like roguelike deck builder game would come out which is that's a lot of qualifications but there's been a few of them it's just like i don't know i feel like they they miss the mark and every fight ends up feeling almost exactly the same it's just like okay um uh yeah variance is i think what i would say cycle kurt asks define deck building please and i thought I'd bring up this illustrative image.

3:42:12That's a nice deck. It's a really nice deck. Do you like fish decks? You might be a gay fish. No, a deck builder is talking about cards. So generally you would start the game with like a fixed set of cards, usually very simple, very kind of bad cards actually. And then as you progress through the game, you have selection options you can you can choose usually choose sometimes you get it randomly whatever um from card options and build your deck by adding or removing cards from it often you want to remove some of the starter cards that you had or any negative cards that you receive um and then add good cards to it and then the reason why it works really well for roguelikes is because there is often multiple ways to build the deck and then you have multiple characters and each character has multiple ways to build their each individual deck and and each each run ends up being unique because of that which makes it really fun so the spire is probably the most well-known and in my opinion best um like video game deck builder and their board game has got to be one of like the best co-op board games i've ever played it's actually so good i was expecting it to be like somewhat it's a video game board game gimmicky and then it's like incredible so good job love the when bros love the gear what's the best engineering slash bodging video you feel you've done oh the best bodging i'm actually just uh i'm just looking through our videos now i i i want to i want to talk about man we do so much dude we do so much weird stuff like like does anyone even remember the time we cooled a pc with like pond water and let it just let it just sit in the sun and grow as much goop as it possibly could and then we like tested it for like for microorganisms and stuff that is that the team water video yeah dan and i saw a really interesting stat lately yeah which is that that video had really high retention really it got like no views like super low views got really low views and like crashed the channel for a while.

3:44:47Yeah, I thought it was a really good video actually. Way above normal. It had like actually statistically very high retention. Go figure. So in like a ton of ways that was a wicked video. And YouTube was just like no. Very weird. Okay. This is not an all time favorite bodge, but this is definitely a recent favorite bodge. We needed cooling for a thread ripper chip and our our Bruce Chilles chiller decided to give up the ghost so we just grabbed an ice bucket put some ice in our nice bucket and then just ran ice water up to it. It was pretty cool and then for reasons that we still don't really understand And we put our heads in the ice bucket.

3:45:46Yeah. When did that happen? I did this too. Yeah. I don't know why either of us did it, but we definitely did it. Was it only you and me? Well, I think I did it because you did it. Plouffe did it too. Okay. Yeah, we were all basically being followers, I think. Yeah. I can't find it though. That's sometimes just how that works. I think my favorite one is the one that I did. Hooray. When you had me like fix that CPU for my own rig upgrade. Yeah. That was awesome. Oh, yeah, that's right. I don't remember the title of the video. The rule was Luke got a sick CPU, but he had to fix the pins on it. Yeah.

3:46:19It was awesome. It was super fun.

3:46:25Oh, man. Of course. I go back to it. Of course. The playback glitches. Yeah. So Ploof put his head in it and then grew hair. Oh, wait. It's me. And then, yeah. I don't know. We did that for reasons. You know, you never know. you're gonna click on an LTT video you never know what you're gonna get yeah oh no I have an answer my all-time favorite bodge oh was the time that we bought like half a dozen dead motherboards off of ebay and I fixed every f***ing one that that was crazy that motherboard you fixed in scrapping boards is still on your desk that was crazy that was crazy have you seen it I haven't I touched it yet.

3:47:12I've been away. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's fair. That was crazy, though. Yeah, that was really cool. You can't script that. That was one of my favorite videos you guys did in, like, a big chunk of time. That was crazy. It was really awesome. Okay, all right. Now, I'm glad I have a good answer. That was just, oh. One time, you know, broken motherboard, bring it back to life, exciting. Doing it, like, half a dozen times in a row, that's nuts. Hi, Linus Lead Development. Question for Linus. What's your most favorite memory from growing up on a farm? Oh. I remember feeding cows and it always makes me so happy.

3:47:47Thanks for the quality products.

3:47:51Uh, bleh. Well, it wasn't plucking turkeys. It wasn't scooping chicken poo. um man i'm not really the outdoorsy type this may come as a surprise to you yeah don't say yeah right um okay okay okay here's what i've got um i'm gonna go with eating quality double smoked farmer sausage that we know is totally clean of any kinds of weird scary hormones or um or or like antibiotics or like any kind of like junk that that farmer sausage that like just you know straight from from pig to table uh i don't think i've ever eaten anything that's at like like a meat thing that's as good as like a double smoked just like high quality totally organic everything farmer sausage dude this is this is not the same thing don't eat a lot of pig these days their high intelligence has sort of made me a little uncomfortable with the whole idea.

3:49:14I didn't like know they were that smart back then, but I'm not going to lie. They can be pretty delicious.

3:49:22I'm not going to remember the place. And that makes me sad because I've been there a long time. And I know it's just like along the drive. I don't actually know the name or the location, but there's a place when you go camping somewhere in BC, that's a gas station on an, on a reserve and they have like their own smoked jerky that they make like there and you can just buy like a brown bag of it nice they just sell it to you by like weight or whatever nice holy crap i haven't had that in like probably six years like it's been a long time but like whoa it's really good crystal says organic is a marketing term which is totally true but the context that i used it in was that this pig was fed with like kitchen slops so i consider that organic matter yeah organic matter made up of the meat which i then ate which makes me organic that actually rings a huge bell hold on please stop saying farmer sausage why What?

3:50:31That's what it's called, isn't it? I have no idea It's not farmer's sausage, is that not a thing? Yeah, farmer's sausage Or Mennonite sausage is a coarsely ground smoked pork sausage Traditionally seasoned with salt and pepper Known for its simple hearty flavor Wait, no way I think this might be it Oh stop What? Did you find it? Someone might have just known What the frick? No way

3:51:01daroche corner store i think this is actually correct oh sick hey oh i have to derail the conversation let me know when you're ready i'm very my brain is exploding but i i think that's right i think it's daroche corner store anyways okay did anyone else dan luke did anyone else noticed this before we started the show? Look how much less f***ing room I have for my tabs. What the f*** is this? It is really annoying. When did this happen? Oh no, mine says new Chrome available. It's been a bit. You know what's super sick? What the heck? You know why you're so upset about this? Because I've been Firefox pilled for the last few weeks.

3:51:45Yes! Because I barely touch my desktop, so most of my Linux challenge has actually been on Kubuntu and I didn't bother to install another browser because Kubuntu came with Firefox and I like signed into it and then I was lazy. So default browsers work by the way. When they're good. What the heck is that? This is one of the reasons why I think I'm going to have a really hard time if I even do going back to Windows. This type of crap is going to be all over the place. And this isn't Microsoft. This is Google. but look at okay we're gonna go back to it we're gonna go back to it again because this is bad enough okay one two three four five i could probably get here let's probably get six tabs in here before things get really bad but okay we waste all this space this is all wasted so that you can have buffer for your stupid ask gem what is this clearly i don't have room for it here so get out of here at the very least collapse it down to just the icon because you know you would do that if it was just my tabs if it was just my precious tabs sorry I'm getting all angry but I just like come on man here I'm just gonna I'm just gonna right click it okay okay okay unpinning it is that simple alright I'm somewhat calmed down now but not entirely that's a lot better than I expected it is better than I expected I didn't think it was going to be unpinnable that is a lot better than I expected what's the over under on it coming back next time you relaunch Chrome see that's the issue they're boiling me I'm a frog and they're boiling me is it on yours?

3:53:31no mine says new Chrome update or new Chrome available I was going to say update it and see what happens I suspect mine is updated but I'll check I have too many tabs open mine is up to date dang that would have been interesting to try hit me dan sure thing um i got a merch message earlier that i said to contact support but it was a bit different um linus using one of the cables in the car what they said is hey dan i did ask support they basically didn't answer me okay so so i was wondering, Linus's opinion, would he use a cable in the car given the temperature swing if no wireless Android Auto?

3:54:17And also if the black LTT pen and pencil are limited release? No, the black pen and pencil were limited stock when we launched them because we knew we had enough of them to launch it, but we knew that we didn't have enough to meet the demand. So we basically were just like, hey, if you want one, make sure you get it right away. But they are coming back eventually. And I am hopeful that we will find that those black pens and pencils are going to be so durable out in the field that we might be able to bring back black shaft screwdrivers with a very similar finish. No promises. As for using, I assume you're talking about our TrueSpec cables in the car a huge part of the reason that we chose the silicone sheathing for the cables was that we wanted something that was uv resistant and the main use case for a usb cable that needs to be uv resistant was having it in your car where a lot of the time the sunlight will come in and will degrade the, what is it?

3:55:22Usually PVC-derived cable sleeving. And as for why we didn't do a braided one, I know you didn't ask, but whatever. I'm explaining the whole rationale behind why we ultimately chose silicone. The reason for not doing a braided one is that while they're really nice, while they're really nice, they tend to really get super destroyed once there's any kind of damage to them. And so we opted for silicone. so look i'm not going to promise that in a very demanding environment like plugging and unplugging sometimes you know many times a day um and you know like mine for instance gets shut in my arm rest because that's where the plug is but i keep my phone in my cup holder and so it just get every time i need to access my arm rest i like mash it is it going to last forever in that application like um no but so far my true spec cable that's in my car is operating perfectly and i'm very happy with it doing that i've also seen a few reports in reviews for the product and discussion about the product on reddit where people have said that they were having a lot of issues with their android auto or their carplay prior to getting a true spec cable and it resolved their issues i've used it in a use case that i've killed a lot of cables in actually um which is pokemon go walk-in if you're out for a really long time um you're gonna need to plug into a battery and when you're moving that's a lot of strain so not only just that but if i don't feel like sometimes i'll just hold the entire battery and the phone and the cable plugging it in and everything and whatever who cares sometimes especially if it's like one of those big fat like 20 000 milliamp hour batteries ideally it's in my pocket and i just have a cable running the whole way when it's in my pocket the battery is likely especially my shorts would have these like enormous pockets the battery is likely to rotate and then it'll torque on the cable while it's in my pocket and it'll it'll break the end and so far it's one of the longest lasting ones it shows no issues at all so no guarantees your mileage may vary uh these are very demanding this is a brutal use case i expect it to probably break eventually a part of this is like i wonder it's still a wear item yeah i wonder how long it's going to last which is one of the reasons why i'm still doing let's be realistic but it's a high quality wear item yeah pogo eats a battery if you're playing for more than an hour it's pretty much a requirement yeah and there are there have been times where i'm out for more than eight so like yeah some of the like fests or tours or whatever those will like those are those are eight plus hour days.

3:58:07So, you're going through some batteries. I'm usually bringing multiple. Nice. Thanks for the big sale, LLD. What is... Oh, sorry. Yes? Sorry. I'm going to interrupt you before you keep going. Go for it. I have seen this news put out everywhere on Pokemon Go stuff and we'll see if people can prove me wrong but I'm pretty sure it's like very misleading about Pokemon Go. Okay, it's not misleading about what their intentions are but i think it's misleading about what the reality is talking about how pokemon go like pokemon go players are mapping out the world through constant ar scanning i don't know a single person who ever has ar enabled on any level in pokemon go everyone turns that off oh no i'm pretty sure people do i'm sure kids do yeah all of the groups that i've been to which do include kids and everything every single person has it turned off never use the ar function yeah ar just makes it stupid to catch now everyone turns it off yeah like it's it's it definitely happens for sure but in my opinion one of the reasons why the original founder got less interested with pokemon go it's because his goal was this whole ar thing and no one ever bought into it no one cared it was kind of stupid the whole time it's the first thing i turn off ar uses even more battery uh like it's like actually basically everyone turns this off okay got it uh and then they had this thing where it was like oh you can scan like do ar scanning of different areas and like do something no one ever did those um ar mapping of stops do you do that that's what byron says.

3:59:56Interesting. See, that's interesting to me. Crystal says I always used it, lol. Oh. Okay. I'm certain there are people. See, I delete scanning software research every time. Yeah, that's Pankrat's though. That's like one of the most technical people that you know. That is true. That is true. Throwing that out there. But yeah, I think like I think a lot less people. There isn't. I think there's a lot more people that use that play Pokemon Go than people realize and I think a lot less percentage of those people use AR than people realize I think both of those things are true

4:00:39Hit me, Dan. Thanks for the big sale, LLD. what is the strangest game you have ever played? I'm just going to put this here.

4:00:51Not the strangest game I ever played, but... We've played some weird ones. What was that like... Rock throwing game or something that we played? You're not talking about Disc Jam, are you? No, no, no, no, no, no. Rock throwing game. We played some game where like... I feel like you had to throw things at each other. You're two big dudes. You had to throw stuff at each other

4:01:16Prisoner Simulator was weird That was weird Drunken Fight Simulator is pretty We were on this kick for a while Where we would sort Steam by its cheapest games We only did it once actually I thought we did it more than once No, we should do it again It was really fun And we would just buy like$1 games Oh, they were less than$1, sir They were like$0.30 a lot of the time And then play it until it got boring Barrow 2020 I think something that turned us off was a bunch of them ended up being just like renamed and repackaged demo projects. Yeah. And it was like, okay, I want the actual jank. Yeah. I want the crap.

4:01:56This was H.I.O. This was legitimately like. Playthrough, no commentary. There's a video of this. I know, right? This was legitimately fun for a few minutes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was fun for a little bit. Not weird, though. Nope. It's just a racing game. Yeah, like, you know, yeah, pretty good. But it was like for a game that I think, I think that one cost a dollar. Yeah, something like that. I got a dollar out of it. Definitely. I think you got more than a dollar out of it. I think you were streaming still back then. Oh, that makes sense. I think that's what motivated us to do it. That makes sense.

4:02:31Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to go in the store right now and find out how much Barrow 2020 is worth. it is available right now barrow it's no longer called barrow 2020 it just seems to be called barrow just barrow it is uh 90 off and is 64 canadian cents to buy 100 worth it do endorse for that price for that price i will also yeah apparently uh there's no no no there's so many Barrow games. I was just going to say, yeah. Barrow is not Barrow 2020. Barrow was in fact released in 2018. Barrow 2020, though, is also 90 % off and also $0.64. Strong recommend at that price. Yeah. They have a they went released in 2022 that's called Barrow F22 and it looks like it's like formula racing and yeah, very positive reviews and it's$0.64 Canadian.

4:03:34there you go guys barrow it's this is actually i wasn't going to say this is the weirdest but it's now the weirdest when i realize that there have been a dozen barrow games and almost all of them cost less than an american 50 cent coin yeah um yeah they're very cheap yep it looks like on sale not on sale they're like six seven bucks i don't know if i'd do that nope but when they're on sale yeah yep 64 cents do it yeah how do you guys decide what topics or ideas are viable for main channel videos and are there video ideas you regret not pursuing oh dude i regret not pursuing a video idea like every week like it's so often that we'll be like oh we should like we should do that and then just the logistics of re-kajiggering what everyone is working on can be really challenging we almost did our macbook neo video either a day or two days later because of just prior obligations for other videos that we were working on or had scheduled for release and i had to pull a fair number of strings in order to like get that pushed over the line um as for how we decide on what to do well there's the the viability conversation feasibility exploration aspect and also just like how interesting is it to the team uh dan how many views do we think it's going to get um what is the the impact on the credibility of our channel um you know is it good for our brand or bad for our brand um it's a whole kind of rubric uh does it align with a current sponsor project that we need to do or like a current you know sponsor idea uh like yeah it might be that a sponsor needs to show something off and you've got a video idea that's been on the dock for like three years and it's been interesting but you just haven't quite had enough motivation to make it you know people like it but yeah or it's a lot of work and the extra money would actually help to justify it.

4:05:53It's a big one. And then that'll kick that idea into the front. Yeah. Yeah.

4:06:00Message for Linus. How much French do you remember? Are you still able to follow a French discussion? Un petit peu. Mais, uh...

4:06:15Je... J 'ai le sens que...

4:06:25something suivre conversation on say I have no idea how bad my grammar was just now and I know my pronunciation was terrible not aided by my braces but no it's pretty difficult the rapid fire speed at which French people talk was never something that i was able to follow with ease um but if people spoke slowly to me i was i was conversational at one point that was a very long time ago i was like 16 so yeah

4:07:10hello llnd the goober but he's not a goober what does goober mean no no idea if you've talked about this recently goober but a peanut he doesn't look like a peanut it was a different streamer um true no idea if you talked about this recently but motorcycle update video when excited to see it put together snacking on a sack of goobers was he i want to call them goobers forever now i think sorry what was your question dan i wasn't listening i love goober i was busy discovering that goober meant peanut so rude um no idea if you talked about this motorcycle yeah there's a lot of motorcycle questions maybe we all roll them together i'll message the last i heard was it's going well slight problem with the rear shock we ordered it was in storage for so long that the oil leaked out it's proving to be a problem for warranty because we ordered it so long ago don't stress i'll take care of it so that was on uh march the 9th it has since been 11 days so i will i will send my classic uh every so often he's not looking but that's fine every so often a how goes and sending work messages i'll find out how it goes you're welcome to send any messages you want it's free country dan hit me uh let's say let's group all the motorcycle stuff together uh what gear do you use what gear do i use usually you don't oh i guess we're the sixth gear we're getting into spring eh the motorcycle messages are going to come back there's been so many we didn't get many at all for a long time well it's finally time for me to mention it in a video or or is it just that time of year sammy's been talking about it he keeps messaging me about when my motorcycle is going to be done i think he wants to do a floatplane exclusive on it oh that makes sense yeah i was like why did he rides you will never ride that machine you're so wrong you gadget guy i don't care if you say slash s you're still wrong you're wrong i will i'm going to i swear it it doesn't feel like a sammy thing to ride a motorcycle but it does feel like a sammy thing if a motorcycle like matches his outfit to like stand near it and look cool i could see that yeah yeah sorry the ding was because that was a joke um yeah so what gear do you use did you talk about the gear uh i use like crappy old joe rocket gear from when i first got a motorcycle like almost 20 years ago so let's not get into it and i use showy helmets because they fit my head shape really well not because i think you should spend that much on a helmet it's a honestly pretty bad idea but what you should do is you should buy a helmet that fits you so like i put on an awry and even though it's like a fancier like top of the line helmet or whatever at least was back when i was like into gear and learning about it um it did not fit my head shape well so it would have been a very silly thing for me to buy you should buy something that fits regardless of the price because um you're on a motorcycle man you're going pretty fast you hit your head how about be less cooked maybe and i think this is the third one we could deal on the backpack bundle surprise the thunderbolt dock is in here linus do your kids consider riding a motorcycle that was really fast actually you know what i haven't seen him drive yet i haven't seen drive a car.

4:10:50I'd want to see my son drive. He's a pretty responsible person. He's never going to watch this. I think with some proper training he'd be completely fine. I think he'd be I'm not encouraging. It's not the motorcycle rider that I'm worried about. I know. I'm not worried about his skills. Yep. And I think he's also like I don't want to say intelligent enough. Wise enough to be pretty aware of that. He's a sharp kid. Yeah. Yeah. I'd still prefer he didn't. I'm not promoting or suggesting. Yeah, I'd still prefer he didn't. Yet you will? I mean, it's not like a lot of people depend on me, so it should be fine.

4:11:34Not like them. Yeah. I mean, they're the next generation, you know? They gotta think of all the future people who could be born. You've done your, like, factory work. you've output your people yeah that's right hey hey look how much did you contribute to the birth rate not at all well you go i'm at three i'm well above national average isn't national average like super low now yeah yeah yeah i used to always quote like white picket fence 2.3 kids but i don't think it's that anymore no good lordy i think it's basement suite 2.3 cats almost low I think Canada's birth rate for 2024 was, uh, 10.01 per.

4:12:19Oh, actually. So it's actually up a little bit in 2024, but, uh, sorry, this is live births per thousand people. So the last couple of years are actually up a little bit, but overall it's been catastrophic. Yeah. Apparently in as a wild 2023, it dropped to 1.26. i always feel bad for the parents to get 0.26 of a kid

4:12:48don't laugh what is that like a leg up to the knee like on a good day like mid-thigh maybe it takes practice um up next yeah yeah yes what is your keyboard setup for gaming at your tv slash projector I find that with my PC the next room over there's too much keyboard lag I have a USB extension to the projector room with 2.5 gigs USB I have one of these for when I just need to use the mouse and keyboard, it has a gyro mouse in it and then the left click is up here on the shoulder and the right click is up here on the other shoulder it has just enough keys to be kind of useful here's the Windows key it doesn't have F keys which is really annoying but it has media keys so that's less annoying and then the media keys to F keys maybe never looked into it and then I have one of these for like if I'm actually gaming or I need to use the computer for a bit or IP rocket right they're like gone now I don't think so are they what was Rockat was a German computer Accessories manufacturer based in Hamburg No way, when did they shut down?

4:14:11Yeah Founded 2006, defunct 2024 They were acquired By Turtle Beach in 2019 Oh, bummer Alright, well I'm glad that I bought Three of those keyboard mouse combos When I realized that the whole trend of Desk boards was going away I should have got more Rockat Stuff when they were around, this is the classic problem but they they were like the creator of things that definitely not enough people were gonna buy but were really cool like they made monitor bags for going to lands nice there was like 12 people that were gonna buy that solid but it's awesome it's super cool hey lld always fun to hear your take on musicals and i have some friends on the book of mormon tour that came through Vancouver a bit ago.

4:15:03Did you catch it? And would you ever do videos on live theater tech? Live theater tech is probably not enough overlap with our core audience. I don't think we'd be able to do that. I did not catch the tour, but I have seen it on Broadway. I absolutely love the Book of Mormon. I don't think it's fair that Trey Parker gets to be that talented. And also, who did he co-write it with? I believe he co-wrote it with someone who wrote Book of Mormon. Trey Parker, Matt Stone, and Robert Lopez. This is hilarious. The AI overview. Google, get it together. Okay, your summary up here knows what I'm talking about.

4:15:48And your AI overview is like, Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon from ancient metal plates he found in 1823, etc., etc., etc. Obviously not what I'm talking about. See, your first real search result knows what I'm talking about. Everything else knows what I'm talking about. Anyway.

4:16:15Hi from Malaysia. What was your favorite part of the country? And do you plan on coming back anytime soon? The badminton scene here is crazy and you should come play a few games.

4:16:29um oh i actually i i played in malaysia when i went there like 10 years ago that was fun and yes i know the badminton scene is crazy it's also really hot to play there at the same issue that i have when i play in taiwan it's like freaking dying in the heat um a lot of the time it's like in school gyms and stuff like that and there's no air conditioning so you just i i once sweat all the way through the bottom of my badminton shoes playing in taipei that was crazy you would think it's a completely rubber sole but it turns out and this was when i discovered this it's actually not in the particular shoes i have there's a little like spot in the bottom where it's just there's like a hole in the in the rubber and there's like something else there's like a mesh there so everywhere i was stepping on the court i was leaving little spots which i so i had to retire for the evening because it was dangerous anyway um yeah yeah i'd love love to play badminton but going all the way to malaysia to play badminton when i um live like less than 20 minutes from my own badminton club would be a little unhinged but i do sometimes like to play when i go on vacation hi linus we both have worked now for defunct computer shops in the fraser valley nice what is one tech store you were surprised to not make it and how many do you expect to close with today's cost of parts um i was a little surprised that future shop sold out it seemed like they were doing fine totally fine um which was kind of a which was kind of a bummer um i'd rather talk about the one store that i'm surprised does still exist how does attic still exist they managed to outlast ncix with oh wait do they not still exist i've never even heard of attic atic on broadway nope oh i never went there they are dude i never went down to vancouver most trustable i think you were i think the word you were looking for was trustworthy attic or trusted um this is their website to my knowledge this has always been their website what's what's what's that computer what are they selling right now uh no i think this is like an old whoa this is just like old junk that doesn't work like this is here's a lenovo core i5 desktop this is a real company that definitely actually exists the very first time i interacted with them uh it was on the advice of of kyle who i did my quebec exchange with and who told me he'd build my first computer for me and show me how to do it um so he was like instrumental into in me becoming linus tech tips shout out kyle um he was like yeah i get stuff at ncix or or adic they're both on the same street so you can just go to both of them i bought a hard drive at attic and i realized upon walking out the door you know what i'd rather have the 80 gig one with the 8 meg cash than the 120 gig one with the 2 meg cash and i walked or maybe i went the other way around i don't know i walked back in the door and i said actually can i exchange it for the other one that i was considering and they charged me a restocking fee for the brand new thing that i had literally just walked out the door with and i never shopped with them again and um they somehow still exist in spite of that approach to customer service they must do B2B or something because like it clearly isn't their website that's gaining them any favors here.

4:20:10No, look at that Twitter logo and that Facebook logo

4:20:16It's been a while for that one Yeah Software antivirus, just like completely empty categories on the side of their website Video logo Scroll down, there you go Video partner force like what is their gpu solution center is that windows 8 if you scroll down in the side banner uh i didn't see the windows right there oh here no what is that is that 10 that's 10 that might be 10 do great things with the best windows ever yeah there you go baby microsoft headsets like this is just life chat headset price 28 cash discounted price regular 29 40 like seriously you have a cash discounted price on your what what year is it these guys are hilarious not an endorsement this one's a bit for both of us dan what resource or community would you recommend for an amateur impoverished sound guy.

4:21:21And Luke and Linus, where do you go to find communities for somewhat niche hobbies? I mean, I had a really great interaction at the local hobby store when I decided not to buy the replacement differential gasket and differential fluid that I needed online and decided to go pay extra to go buy something in person. I already did the research to find out what I needed. Uh, so I could have just ordered it, but I was like, you know what? That's stupid because running an RC shop, um, is a very challenging sort of endeavor that only someone who's really passionate would do. And, um, while I was in there, a handful of other people came in and just like wanted to chat about it.

4:22:12They didn't care that I was a complete noob and I have no idea what I'm doing. and the car that I have on the counter is some piece of crap Arma plastic thing from 10 years ago that obviously has not been taken care of. They just like want to chat and shoot the breeze. And so I'd say going to meetups, going to mom and pop shops that specialize in that stuff, that can be a good place to start. As for the amateur impoverished sound guy bit, no comment there. Dan, you're up. Yeah, it really depends on your niche. Generally, it is piracy, learn, and then buy what you like. And an SM57 is$100, and you're fine.

4:22:53That's it. You're good. But as for software, there's like dozens of DAWs. Generally, either try a trial or steal them, learn what you can, and then buy the one that you like. If you're making money with it, absolutely buy it. But there's lots of free stuff out there, too. Communities are just watch YouTube tutorials. it's a it's a black art so you will never know how to do it remember that i have generally found that reddit is good for information and reddit is often not good for community so you know how the linux people are on reddit it's like that times 100 for anything audio related so this is sick and this is true for like a ton of things people on reddit are just really mad all the time and if you want to like if you go out, we were talking about Pokemon Go earlier so I'm going to use this example again if you go out to like your local community Pokemon Go event, you're probably going to have a good time and people are probably going to be pretty chill and like be enjoying the game and play the game a little bit and then just enjoy nature and walk around a little bit and just do whatever and you go online on the Reddit and it's like just screaming the whole time, it's wild So I don't know if I can really recommend Reddit these days.

4:24:13And Discord is questionable as a community thing, to be completely honest. So it's a little tough online, but I've really enjoyed going to common places. I did a crazy fast this week, went to go get pho at our favorite pho place to break my fast. And I got there a little bit late for the people that I was going to eat lunch with. And they mentioned that they had another person coming. and the waitress I guess saw me out of the window and was like is it him as they were ordering and they were like yeah and she's like okay well you guys can order I know what he's getting and I was like I freaking made it dude I did it I have one it's so good and it's so cheap I have one more point if you want to go into audio engineering specifically you're going to have to be Pro Tools so get a trial or something you have to be on Pro Tools learn Pro Tools enjoy your Blender level thousand page manual on shortcuts learn all the shortcuts you're in for a rough time yeah you think Adobe's bad?

4:25:24yeah good luck okay up next as a new dad I would love to know what the best lesson you learned from your kids oh that's a cool question what's a cool way of framing it oh man that's a hard one to just try to come up with off the spot off the top of my head on the spot

4:25:49oh man I don't know I'll just go with the one that I talked to Yvonne about most recently because I think coming up with the best one is going to be darn near impossible after doing this for 14 years. I would say the most recent one, it was, you know, watch out for the weight of your words. I think a lot of parents talk about their kids not listening to them and that being, you know, detrimental. You know, they don't listen to me. They, you know, they go and do the wrong thing. But the conversation we had very recently was be careful what you say because they just might listen. They might do it.

4:26:31You've got to be always cognizant of both setting a good example and being aware of the danger of giving poor advice or setting a bad example, and also being careful not to guide them too much and sometimes not telling them the path so that they can learn to set their own path. And so we were talking to my son about investment. He has collected some red pocket money over the years. We pay him for any of the work that he does on the channel, all of the kids. And so he has some money. He doesn't spend money. He's like the most spendthrift person I know. And I know you. He does not spend money. It's crazy.

4:27:20I don't understand it. Money burned a hole in my pocket when I was his age. and anyway we um so we we were just kind of like advising him a little bit on what he might want to do in terms of of investment strategy and as as you know we know we're not we're not seasoned investors we're not experts i actually work a job um as opposed to just you know coasting off of capital um and so we kind of talked him through it and at the end of it ivan and i were sort of discussing based on you know the decisions that he was making and kind of feeling like you know maybe we maybe we were almost like too cautionary or like too um too biased in the way that we presented the information and that might have like biased him when really what we want him to do is learn at this stage because it doesn't matter if he makes any money in his investments right now it's not really relevant what's relevant is that he's learning doesn't hurt if he makes some money um and it certainly would be relevant if he lost a bunch of it you know but um just making sure that we have our priorities in straight in terms priorities straight in terms of how we're presenting this information um like one of the things that i that i pushed him really hard to do was to read up on the dutch tulip crisis and And, you know, the goal wasn't to like spook him, but it was to make sure that he understands the concept of a bubble before he jumps in right now.

4:28:56You know, not that there's any bubbles right now, but. Anyway, sorry, that's something. No, it's actually really interesting. I think like. I feel like I don't have this so much for like individual quotes when I was pretty young, but I'll talk to people now. that are still heavily affected and have shaped their lives or have issues with certain problems over individual quotes, one-off lines from their parents when they were kids. Like it's pretty wild. Going back to the previous topic, and this is not fair. I have to point that out before I make this point. This is extremely not fair. It's an open community.

4:29:37Every open community can have this type of stuff. I'm not actually trying to characterize the whole platform in any way. It's just kind of funny and interesting. I don't know if you knew about this, Linus, but this... What the heck? Diplomatic militaristic? What are we even talking about here? That's not my screen. Offline Luke laptop? Is it your screen? What? Did I do them backwards? No. Oh, when I was messing with the thing. Give me one second. That's from a long time ago. How long was that sitting in a buffer somewhere? Your camera is also... Rosen. Can I just cancel this? Nope. Okay. There you go.

4:30:18There we go. Do you know what this? Do you know who this is? Maxwell Hill. The first register to hit one million karma. Do you know who that is? No. Wait. Isn't that Dezane Maxwell? Or like that's what we think, right? No, it is. Do we know that? For sure. As far as my understanding goes, yeah. And like 20 years 15 million karma. I thought it's alleged. Let's see. Let's see. Let's check. my understanding is it looks extremely like 99.9 sus but i don't think we actually know no

4:30:55yeah there's like a theory that um she used the reddit platform to aid in her um in in the elite sort of shaping of public discourse and also to stay abreast of everything that's going on and also for like recruitment for epstein's whatnot um yeah i i did did you just learn about this no but i just learned that it might not be real there's there's a lot of there's a lot of indication that it appears to be real so like to your credit if you're gonna believe something that was an internet hoax this one seems extremely i did fall for that i did definitely fall for this one seems extremely credible so yeah does anyone have proof that it isn't her nobody here is like calling you out for for like falling for it like i think it's like we are pretty sure it has it and we're pretty sure it is um it's pure c3 sugar snack says not her but what's the yeah but what's the what's the dd what's what's the due diligence apparently the evidence that it is real is also it's very circumstantial pretty thin yeah but there's i mean maxwell and their name and they disappeared at the same time that they got arrested yeah but we don't have the we don't have the you know the epstein emails to prove it no um no because we have a lot of epstein's usernames and stuff yeah from that but we don't have hers um

4:32:51we're ready dan interesting yeah yeah i don't have much else to say i thought it was legit nah, seems like it's unknown. Hey all, would you consider donating to your favorite Linux distribution or bug bounty program if they would work on things that annoy you the most so you wouldn't be able to fully transition to Linux? Yeah, I'd consider it. I think that... Yeah, I'd consider it. I don't know that most of the things that I would, oh man, where's the line between a donation, a contribution though, and like expecting an open source developer to just like be your little bitch and fix your little sort of quibbles.

4:33:42I like the idea of donating. I don't like the way you've necessarily framed it here is, I guess, where I'll land on that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, boys. Excited for the next Whale Land. Linus, what crazy thing are we planning this time? I don't know if we're planning anything crazy. I think it'd be kind of crazy if the 8v8 worked perfectly this time. We have some ideas. We have some ideas for how to fix some of the issues that we were having. What we can't fix... Someone owning it makes sense. What we can't fix is the human behavior around it. so it'll sit idle and then luke and i will go over and be like hey want to play halo yeah let's play halo bro and then and then there'll be a line like a lineup to play the 8v8 and then luke and i will be like oh there's a line the game's over we should cycle we should cycle out and then literally no one will even sit down to be fair it was like a pretty rough experience yeah we have some issues to figure out if it was a good experience maybe that'll change maybe it would have changed it yeah last one i got for you today i am a low volt technician and have been rocking the og backpack and screwdriver as my dailies linus have there been any low volt upgrades to your house since the last video any plans in the future i don't think so i got my house to the point where I was basically just like, I don't want to, I don't want to touch this anymore.

4:35:12One thing that I did come across is, um, I was having a lot of issues with that whole concept that I had where my one gaming machine would power the gaming in the land room, in the theater room, and in my office upstairs. I ended up with three separate machines for that. Not because I wanted to, but because windows is multi-monitor management was really poor. It assigns a permanent forever, you cannot fix this ID. You know, the like the one, two, three, like when you press identify, it assigns a permanent one that the last time I looked into it, there was absolutely no way to fix or override. So what that meant was that for some reason,

4:36:00something something hot keys and going to the primary and not it interfering with potential other inputs because there was also supposed to be the one at my station downstairs was supposed to be a guest one for the kids to put their friends at that didn't have any of my stuff logged in or anything like that so it hasn't worked out that way but basically the multi-monitor management across the three rooms was really really crappy because i couldn't force it to say this is the primary display and it was just bound to two and i went as far as even reinstalling windows and like connecting that one first and that didn't work for some reason that i don't understand so however microsoft derives its um its its identification for which monitor is which was just not fixable to me.

4:36:52eGadget guy says it can be overridden by unplugging and plugging them in a certain order and sometimes it doesn't. No, it can't. Trust me, I hiked up and down the stairs of my house more times than I can count trying to do it that way. It did not work for me. But I came across this. It's called Monarch, a display switching utility that might make it easier to manage my desktop across multiple locations. So I shared this with myself. Someone posted it on Reddit, I think. for quick monitor detach and layout switching. So this looks like it might help me finally achieve that, which does not change anything about my setup right now, but would cause me to run some more low voltage because then I could use my computer in all of those places.

4:37:36I could run another DisplayPort up to the family room as well, and then I could just have everything everywhere. And then this would be next level. I could finally do the thing I wanted to do with level one text DisplayPort KVMs, and I could also have like a SteamOS machine that runs to all those places. And then I could just create some automations that will switch all the inputs. And then I can have like voice activated things, like be like play SteamOS in the theater. And it could just - That'd be sick. So that's - That'd be really cool. That's what I'd like to do next, but I'm not, there's always something.

4:38:07As a bit of a callback to that whole Reddit thing, Enigma Blade said, I used to mod subreddits with people who modded other subreddits with Maxwell Hill and they were active in private mod mails and messages after Ghislaine's arrest. Okay. Sounds like probably not a thing. Maybe hoax then. Yeah. You know what's not a hoax? Is we will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. That was fast, but... Bye!

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