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Episode Details
- Title: I Love Linux - WAN Show March 13, 2026
- Hosts: Linus Sebastian, Luke Lafreniere
- Overview: The episode features discussions on various technology-related topics, with a focus on Linux, gaming hardware, and the impacts of advertising and tariffs in the tech industry.
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Key Highlights
- Linux Challenge Updates
- Linus shares experiences from his ongoing Linux challenge, emphasizing the successes and hurdles faced while using Linux for daily tasks and gaming.
- Reports on Valve's Steam Frame and Steam Machine scheduled for release in the first half of the year.
- Hardware News
- Intel's new CPUs announced as the fastest gaming desktop processors, featuring enhancements like increased clock speeds and support for faster RAM.
- Linux successfully ported onto a PS5 by a security engineer, allowing the console to run games like GTA V at impressive specs.
- Advertising and Tariff Issues
- Discussions on Best Buy's advertising strategies and Nintendo's lawsuit against the U.S. government regarding tariffs, raising questions about fairness and consumer impact.
- Dynamic Pricing in Gaming
- Sony's pilot program for dynamic A/B pricing on the PlayStation Store, sparking debates about potential impacts on consumers and how it reflects broader trends in digital commerce.
- Meta's Acquisition of AI Platform
- Meta’s acquisition of Moltbook highlights the increasing integration of AI in social media and the implications for content generation and consumption.
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In-Depth Discussions Linux Challenge
- Overview: Linus provides updates on his Linux usage experience, including challenges faced during remote setups and gaming.
- Key Takeaway:
- Encountered technical difficulties with hardware compatibility.
- Significant learning experience with different Linux distributions.
Gaming Hardware
- Intel's Announcement: New CPUs aim to enhance gaming performance with better core configurations and RAM support.
- PS5 Linux Hack: Showcases the potential for consoles to run alternative operating systems, blurring the lines between PCs and consoles.
Advertising Strategies
- Best Buy's Marketing Tactics: Discussion on how dynamic ads in retail can lead to consumer frustration and perceived dishonesty.
- Nintendo's Tariff Lawsuit: Highlights the complexities and inconsistencies in tariff laws and their effects on corporations versus everyday consumers.
Dynamic Pricing Experiment
- Sony's A/B Pricing: Discussion on Sony's trials with varying discounts and the potential implications for consumer buying behavior and pricing strategy.
Meta's AI Moves
- Moltbook Acquisition: Explores how AI agents are being integrated into social media platforms and concerns over content authenticity.
Miscellaneous Topics
- YouTube's AI Detection: YouTube's push for AI deepfake detection and the implications for content creators.
- Amazon's AI Coding Tools: Amazon's internal challenges with AI coding tools linked to outages, highlighting the risks associated with relying on AI-generated code.
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Conclusion The episode encapsulates Linus and Luke's candid takes on the evolving tech landscape, especially around Linux, gaming, and advertising strategies in the digital age. The conversations reflect the ongoing challenges and opportunities presented by new technologies and the importance of consumer awareness in navigating these changes.
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Key Quotes
- "Linux saved the WAN show boys."
- "You can't win with better fabrication then you can take the fight to software."
- "This is a good thing and they should do deep fake detection more and just generally AI detection more and not less."
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOLinux Challenge Updates
0:45 to 2:00
Discussion about recent developments in Linux, including Valve's Steam frame.
“They're still working out the details of pricing and exact delivery times.”
Tech Mall Adventure Begins
2:00 to 4:25
A personal story about the host's challenges traveling with tech equipment.
“Vessi, Factor Meals, Odoo, and Squarespace.”
Tech Mall Exploration
4:25 to 8:45
A detailed account of visiting a tech mall and searching for equipment.
“And I was like, Oh, we are in serious trouble here.”
Struggles in the Tech Mall
8:45 to 14:00
Encountering issues while searching for needed tech items and local interactions.
“I wanted a desk USB microphone and a bougie webcam.”
Exploring South Korea's Tech Scene
14:00 to 15:20
Learn about the unique experiences of navigating tech shops in South Korea.
“We used Google Translate and we figured it out and they sent me to a different building where, once again, I found something I needed, like, immediately.”
Surprising Prices and Negotiation Tactics
15:20 to 16:50
Understand how pricing works in South Korean tech shops and the negotiation process.
“a Rode NT-USB Plus, which is a perfectly cromulent desktop microphone.”
Search for the Perfect Microphone
16:50 to 18:50
Discover the challenges faced while searching for a suitable microphone abroad.
“Nothing's got pricing on it in a lot of the shops.”
Encountering Challenges in a Local Mall
18:50 to 21:20
Hear about the unexpected challenges faced in local tech stores, including cultural barriers.
“I honestly didn't even care about your store.”
Setting Up for the Show
21:20 to 23:40
Learn about the tech setup and troubleshooting process before the live show.
“More like PooPoo 96 because this thing, as far as I can tell, just makes everything I pointed at worse.”
Using AI to Solve Tech Issues
23:40 to 26:10
Understand how AI aids in solving Linux-related challenges and tech problems.
“So I am completely coming to you Linux live and it's going great.”
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The Role of AI in Modern Tech Problem Solving
26:10 to 27:50
Explore the effectiveness of AI in simplifying complex tech issues.
“And that's just declining use of click-through.”
Reflections on the Linux Challenge
27:50 to 28:00
Gain insights into the Linux challenge experience and its impact on tech engagement.
The Frustrations of Linux Solutions
28:00 to 28:50
Discussion about the challenges of finding effective Linux solutions.
“And all these individual people are just arguing with each other about the validity and merit of all these various solutions, some of which, like I tried the first couple and they didn't even like apply anymore.”
A Memorable Encounter at PAX
28:50 to 30:00
Sharing a story about a gamer at PAX and the surprising interaction.
“I think even just that concept in general also inspired you pretty heavily.”
Gamers' Indifference to Technology
30:00 to 31:32
Exploring the apathy of many gamers towards hardware details.
“Anyway, the point is I walk up to this guy who's experiencing the freaking future in his hands and I go like, oh yeah, what do you think?”
My Linux Challenge Journey
31:32 to 32:44
Update on personal experiences with Linux Mint and hardware issues.
Transitioning Back to Linux Mint
32:44 to 34:05
Exploring the ease of use and functionality of Linux Mint compared to Windows.
“I had to sign PDFs, stuff's already installed, whatever.”
Windows Update Woes
34:05 to 36:05
Describing issues with Windows updates affecting performance during the Linux challenge.
“Um, the biggest problem with computers that I've had in the last week, um, isn't, isn't like technically a problem.”
Game Compatibility on Linux
36:05 to 38:48
Discussing the experience of running games on Linux, including successes and challenges.
“I've been intentionally avoiding some things knowing that they won't work.”
Playing God of War and Gaming Preferences
38:48 to 42:00
Sharing thoughts on playing God of War on Linux and the changing nature of gaming habits.
“I did run into a weird issue where my charger, I only brought like a little compact 65 watt charger and this laptop, realistically, it comes with like a 150 watt charger or something like that.”
Exploring Gaming on Linux
42:00 to 43:20
Discussion on gaming experiences and options available on Linux platforms.
Installing and Using Linux Distros
43:20 to 46:18
Insights on installation processes and experiences with various Linux distros.
“And I was like, that'll probably work for me.”
Linux Community and Support Forums
46:18 to 48:20
Reflections on the Linux community, forums, and the quality of user support.
“fact that they are recommending it tells me that that's probably not what I want.”
User Experiences and Expectations
48:20 to 52:46
Discussion on user experiences with Linux and the balance between positivity and reality.
“It seemed like a lot of people stopped blaming the user quite as much when they realized, oh, wait, that was a really bad bug that caused that.”
The Future of Linux Desktops
52:46 to 56:00
Exploration of the potential future of Linux desktops and related ecosystems.
“run this software and it doesn't, or it has me donking around in the terminal a bunch, then I'm going to have to just give you a reality bomb that most people don't want to do that.”
The Future of Linux Desktop
56:00 to 56:44
Exploration of whether Steam OS can lead to a mainstream Linux desktop.
Distro Discussions: Arch and Manjaro
56:44 to 58:16
The hosts discuss various Linux distros, particularly Arch and Manjaro.
“cache EOS and like these different types of things.”
SteamOS's Vision and Gaming Focus
58:16 to 1:00:27
Discussion on SteamOS's direction and its implications for the gaming community.
“I think you need a really strong direction.”
NVIDIA's GPU Landscape
1:00:27 to 1:02:04
Examination of NVIDIA's market position and the implications for gamers.
“a desktop operating system so to me the the vision that i see and the direction that they're going are the strongest and the most cohesive.”
The Shift to Integrated GPUs
1:02:04 to 1:04:07
Debate on the efficacy and future of integrated GPUs vs discrete GPUs.
“But like the laptop that I'm running on right now, this machine does not have a dedicated GPU and I don't care at all.”
Beta Software and Community Feedback
1:04:07 to 1:06:52
Discussion on the implications of community feedback on beta software development.
“Calling something beta doesn't mean what it used to.”
NVIDIA's RTX 3060 Production Restart
1:06:52 to 1:10:03
Details on NVIDIA's move to restart production of the RTX 3060.
“I'm just going to confidently say that, and we'll see how it goes.”
Gaming on a Budget GPU: The 3060 Experience
1:10:03 to 1:12:00
Listeners will learn about the performance of the 3060 graphics card while gaming and its impact in restricted markets.
Market Dynamics: Graphics Card Production and Capacity
1:12:01 to 1:13:15
This segment discusses the implications of graphics card production choices and market reactions.
A Lighthearted Debate on Meat Preferences
1:13:16 to 1:14:25
The hosts engage in a humorous discussion about personal preferences for meat types.
“People might think I'm getting that angle right now.”
Creator Warehouse Expansion and New Merchandise
1:14:26 to 1:17:22
Listeners will discover the latest merchandise offerings from Creator Warehouse and the philosophy behind subtle branding.
“Why don't we do the CW announcement and a couple comms.”
Custom Branding Ideas for Creator Warehouse
1:19:29 to 1:21:14
A conversation around custom branding possibilities for Creator Warehouse products and insights into consumer preferences.
“But they obviously, very obviously have a utility.”
Whale Land Event Announcement
1:21:15 to 1:23:59
Listeners will learn about the Whale Land event dates, ticket pricing, and VIP offerings.
“I think I'm like just generally going to be at Whalelands.”
Intel's New CPU Announcement
1:24:00 to 1:24:22
Discussion about Intel's latest gaming desktop processors.
“I'm intending to generally be attending.”
Performance Improvements in Intel Chips
1:24:22 to 1:26:24
Exploring the performance enhancements of Intel's new chip lineup.
“And there was, once upon a time, a time when I would have said, wow, the new water is wetter than ever in response to that.”
Software Optimization and Gaming
1:26:24 to 1:28:41
Intel's new software optimizations and their implications for gaming.
“So the$250K plus is going to be starting from$199 with the 270k plus starting from, this says$199, but I believe it's$299.”
Societal Gullibility and Cynicism
1:28:41 to 1:33:16
A discussion on societal trends in gullibility and skepticism.
“that might be optimized for older architectures and repacking them to reduce architectural contention.”
Google Play Store Fee Changes
1:33:16 to 1:36:51
Changes in Google Play Store fees and implications for developers.
“and talk about how to navigate your way through.”
Epic Games and App Store Antitrust Issues
1:36:51 to 1:38:00
Discussion on the role of Epic Games in app store regulation.
“The rollout will gradually hit Australia, Japan, and Korea by the end of the year and the rest of the world late 2027.”
Antitrust Issues in App Stores
1:38:00 to 1:40:13
Discusses the antitrust problems surrounding the App Store and Google Play Store.
“I, oh man, this is another one of those ones where at the time I took a ton of flack for just being like, yeah, obviously the App Store and the Play Store are a huge antitrust problem.”
Flowplane Announcement and Embarrassing Tech Stories
1:40:13 to 1:42:01
Announces Flowplane content and shares embarrassing tech stories from team members.
“Shall we do the floor plan announcement?”
Windows OS Evolution and Criticism
1:42:06 to 1:47:45
Critiques the evolution of Windows operating systems and their performance.
Current Gaming Performance Discussion
1:47:45 to 1:52:04
Discussion about current CPU and RAM performance while gaming on Windows.
Analyzing System Performance
1:52:04 to 1:53:11
Learn about the performance metrics of different operating systems and applications.
“which is honestly crazy given the current situation.”
Windows 11 Tweaks and Challenges
1:53:12 to 1:54:44
Discover insights on managing Windows 11 settings and performance issues.
“It kind of jumps up and down all the time.”
Linux Hacking on PS5
1:58:25 to 2:01:52
Explore the recent Linux hack on PS5 and its implications for console gaming.
“I did notice based factory meals, a lot of them were chicken, some simple carb like rice, and then a vegetable.”
The Future of Consoles and PCs
2:01:53 to 2:06:00
Discuss the potential trends in gaming hardware and software integration.
“I think they are recognizing that later in the console's life cycle, it's very beneficial to take that software and tap into a market with it and sell a bunch of, you know, Spider-Man to PC gamers.”
The Importance of Competition in Tech
2:06:00 to 2:08:20
Learn why competition among tech giants like Windows, Linux, and others is crucial for innovation.
“But yeah, it was a pretty great experience.”
The Live Nation Settlement: A Mixed Bag
2:08:20 to 2:10:10
Discover the implications of the recent antitrust settlement involving Live Nation and Ticketmaster.
“master agreed to settle a federal antitrust lawsuit with the department of justice uh and And apparently they won't be broken up.”
Stock Market Insights and Accessibility
2:10:10 to 2:13:20
Understand the disparities in stock ownership and the relevance of the stock market to the average person.
Steam Machine Delays and Market Impact
2:13:20 to 2:16:10
Explore the updates surrounding the Steam Machine and the factors affecting its release.
“Our goal of shipping all three products in the first half of the year, this is a quote has not changed, but we have work to do to land on concrete pricing and launch dates.”
Apple's MacBook Neo: A Game Changer?
2:16:10 to 2:20:00
Analyze the potential impact of the new MacBook Neo on the PC market and consumer behavior.
“And they probably should be, to be completely honest.”
Apple's Memory Upgrade Strategy
2:20:00 to 2:21:39
Discussing Apple's approach to RAM and storage upgrades across devices.
“I mean, Apple loves having people pay for a memory upgrade or a storage upgrade.”
The Future of Microsoft and Competition
2:21:40 to 2:23:19
Exploring Microsoft's focus and competition with Apple and Linux.
“It's mostly been websites, but you can just close tabs.”
Choosing Between Google Workspace and Microsoft
2:23:20 to 2:25:49
Debating the pros and cons of Google Workspace versus Microsoft 365.
“it's their infrastructure department kind of that happens to make money.”
Evaluating Subscription Software Costs
2:25:50 to 2:28:19
Discussing the financial implications of subscription software at work.
“You're gonna have to pry my Google Docs from my cold dead hands.”
YouTube's Revenue and Advertising Strategies
2:28:20 to 2:33:09
Analyzing YouTube's advertising revenue and its impact on content creators.
“And we're going to have to find some efficiency.”
Concerns Over YouTube's Advertising Practices
2:33:10 to 2:34:00
Expressing concerns about the increasing duration and frequency of ads on YouTube.
“while Disney, NBC, Paramount, and Warner Bros earned$36.1 billion combined.”
The Future of YouTube and Content Quality
2:34:00 to 2:35:51
Discusses the decline in content quality on YouTube and potential future directions.
“is functionally accepted, but they are still operating today as separate companies until such time as the acquisition is complete.”
The Parental Analogy of Content Consumption
2:35:52 to 2:38:15
Explores the analogy of parenting in relation to guiding content consumption for a healthy media diet.
“It's like, look, you guys need to decide what you want to be.”
Intrusive Ads on Hisense TVs
2:38:16 to 2:40:01
Discusses the growing issue of unskippable ads on Hisense TVs and user reactions.
“Speaking of in crapification, let's talk about Hisense.”
The Controversy of Testing Ads
2:40:02 to 2:42:18
Analyzes the rationale behind companies testing intrusive ads on consumer devices.
“Like, why, why did you, why did you need to test that?”
The Idea of an Upgradeable TV
2:42:19 to 2:44:09
Pitches the concept of a TV that can be upgraded for better performance and user choice.
“But over time, you get heavier media files or, you know, whatever.”
Slay the Spire 2 and Community Feedback
2:44:10 to 2:47:39
Shares insights and experiences regarding the early access version of Slay the Spire 2.
“The sequel to Megacrit's 2019 hit, well, just called Slay the Spire, to be clear, hit...”
Discussing Slay the Spire's Bosses
2:48:01 to 2:51:44
Learn about the challenges and balance issues in Slay the Spire's gameplay.
“And I tend to try to make optimized decks.”
Slay the Spire: A Personal Story
2:54:20 to 2:55:24
Hear a personal anecdote about an exciting first run in Slay the Spire and the joy of getting a companion.
“I had this situation before the show where this was doing a weird thing and I decided to fix it.”
Dynamic Pricing on PlayStation Store
2:55:29 to 2:56:49
Discuss the implications of Sony's dynamic A-B pricing experiments on the PlayStation Store.
“Sony appears to be experimenting with dynamic AB pricing on the PlayStation Store.”
Concerns Over AI in Tech
2:56:52 to 3:00:25
Explore the potential issues with AI integration in coding and its consequences for tech companies.
“MRO Mutt says, I was about to say dynamic pricing on a digital store is pure evil, but if it's just discounts, I'm not as upset.”
Nintendo's Tariff Lawsuit
3:00:29 to 3:02:00
Learn about Nintendo's lawsuit against the U.S. government regarding tariffs and the broader implications.
Understanding Tariffs and Business Impacts
3:02:00 to 3:08:23
Explore how tariffs affect businesses, including discussions on refunds and pricing strategies.
“order signed by President Trump after the Supreme Court struck these orders, or sorry, multiple orders, struck these orders down in February.”
BYD's Innovative EV Charging Network
3:08:24 to 3:14:39
Learn about BYD's breakthrough charging network and its implications for electric vehicles.
“The test hub uses liquid cooled charging guns, which just sounds awesome, that allow users to roll up, plug in and handle payment on either the infotainment or an Android app.”
YouTube's AI Detection and Gmail Search Issues
3:14:40 to 3:16:00
Discussing YouTube's new AI detection features and frustrations with Gmail's search functionality.
“I don't exactly shop for cars too often, but this is cool, man.”
Discussion on Digital Side Mirrors and Cooler Features
3:16:00 to 3:16:52
Explore the legality of digital side mirrors in Canada and the excitement over car features.
“bushy co-branding for their audio and still manage to make it this cheap.”
Guilty Pleasure Treats and Snacks
3:16:52 to 3:19:02
Hosts share their favorite guilty pleasure treats, including candies and snacks.
“Just like nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom.”
Stag Chili and Bread Factory Meals
3:19:02 to 3:20:16
A humorous recount of meals made from Stag chili and free bakery bread.
Favorite Canadian Snacks: RJ's and Hawkins
3:20:16 to 3:22:40
Discussion about favorite Canadian snacks, including RJ's licorice and Hawkins Cheesies.
“Oh, I don't remember what grocery store that was.”
Fitness Journey and Diet Challenges
3:22:40 to 3:25:00
Hosts discuss the ups and downs of their fitness journeys and diet struggles.
“I think everything's in trouble unless the price of RAM falls.”
Injuries and Rehabilitation in Fitness
3:25:00 to 3:30:07
A candid look at dealing with injuries and the process of getting back into fitness.
“And then I came back and I had this crazy reno that lasted for like over six months.”
Returning to the Gym: A Personal Journey
3:30:07 to 3:31:54
Learn about the challenges and strategies of getting back into a workout routine.
“I don't like, Oh, maybe I feel better today.”
Goals Beyond Appearance: A Discussion on Health
3:31:54 to 3:33:48
Understand the importance of feeling capable and healthy over merely focusing on appearance.
“But anyways, it's a little off track, but I'm trying to get back on the tracks, and I'm like actually peak frustrated right now, but we'll figure it out.”
The Benefits of Lineage OS for Older Phones
3:33:48 to 3:35:09
Discover how Lineage OS can extend the life of older Android devices.
“There was like before this happened, before the house reno, I was mostly feeling pretty good.”
Navigating Life in Your 30s: Advice and Insights
3:35:09 to 3:37:08
Get advice on managing life transitions and the pressures of adulthood in your 30s.
“yeah i used to run it it's awesome um last one i got for you here hey one pointed question oh You said it's awesome and used to.”
The Realities of Childbearing Age
3:37:08 to 3:38:26
Learn about the implications of childbearing age and societal expectations.
“We have this perception today that like, you just like have kids in your late 30s, or maybe even like in your 40s.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:04There you go. What's up, everybody, and welcome to the WAN Show. We got a great show lined up for you guys this week that almost didn't happen thanks to Linux, but then almost did happen thanks to Linux, and then totally did happen, and we're so totally back thanks to Linux. I thought the last one was going to be thanks to Windows. So, hey, we made it. No, I got a lot of Linux challenge updates for you all this week. It's going to be freaking awesome. In other sort of tangentially Linux-related news, it looks like Valve is still on track to deliver their Steam frame and Steam machine in the first half of this year.
0:47So that's pretty exciting. They're still working out the details of pricing and exact delivery times. But hey, if they don't deliver it in Q1, excuse me, if they don't deliver it in the first half, then at least we'll have a new funny meme for the ValveTime website. True. Intel's new CPUs are, in quotes, their fastest gaming desktop processors ever. I should damn well hope so. I'd hope so, yeah, pretty much. But hey, we'll talk about that. Hopefully that'll be cool. Also, more Linux news. Linux has been hacked onto a PS5, effectively turning Sony's console into kind of a Steam machine that can play PlayStation games.
1:29Honestly? Kind of cool? That sounds kind of goaded. Kind of sick. Pretty sick. Kind of sick. We gotta do the thing. Hold on. I think I can... Oh my god.
1:45That's fine. Yeah, I'm fine.
1:58I don't know if I can see it. I'll do it. Vessi, Factor Meals, Odoo, and Squarespace. All with our wrap partner, Dbrand, laptop partner, Razer, and chair partner, Razer. Thank you. I would give anything for a Razer chair right now, Luke. I am sitting on a stool that is so crammed up against the bed behind me that the like rock hard for whatever reason frame around the bed is digging into my butt and cutting off my circulation rock hard things dude yeah some of the some of the hotel wancho setups that i've had have been pretty precarious i'm not gonna lie um but uh what do you want to talk about first should we talk about my adventure getting the WAN show going?
2:43I was going to say Tech Mall, but yeah, let's do that, to be honest. Let's do that, and then we'll jump into your real topic, and then we'll come back to your Tech Mall. Sure. It's all kind of related, and it all started when I was still in the Uber on my way to the airport, and I realized, holy crap, I forgot my WAN show away kit. So, you know how the last WAN show that I did remotely, the quality was, like, actually kind of awesome? It was very good. Lots of good comments about it. yeah yeah i was using um an elgato wave 3 microphone so i was just using like a desktop um like kind of podcasty gaming microphone yeah and then so i was and then for the camera i was using that like super bougie razor one from our webcam roundup yes so like 400 webcam and i was like this is freaking awesome and i was in the uber and i realized i didn't bring it it was right next to my luggage.
3:42It was where I keep my passport. So it's impossible for me to forget. It's kind of interesting because you did bring it to ZTW even. Like that's how like default it is for you to bring it. But it didn't come on this trip, I guess. Well, what happened is I got interrupted in my packing multiple times because I have kids and stuff with me. So they needed help. and when my routine gets interrupted i i can't i can't do anything i'm useless i'm worthless hate me um thanks luke that's the affirmation i needed yeah anyway i was in the uber i realized i didn't have it so yvonne because she is i don't know a saint was like oh well you know why don't we as part of our trip go to a tech mall and maybe you could make a video hey seriously find a wife who supports you and your career as much as Yvonne does that's amazing uh yeah it's crazy and I was like wait so did she film is this like old school you're getting so far ahead of things sorry i'm getting excited i'm getting excited i'm telling my story i'm telling my story so so she um so she's like oh we should we should you know yeah you could do that and i was like you know i had really planned to just be on vacation this time this one time i had planned to just be on vacation we could just go to asia and i could not shoot a video in a tech mall and then i was like well okay let's have a look at what my options are if i don't go to the tech mall and i went wait a second my laptop is running kubuntu right now and i have i had a bunch of issues on the plane on the way over here trying to get screen capture going because i was gaming on the plane and because i i didn't bother to convert my handheld yet i was like okay well my gaming machine for this trip then is my laptop because i have to game on linux dude i had so many problems but then not any of the problems that were anything to do with gaming so we can talk about those later okay the point is we got here and i was like oh i really don't know about doing the tech mall thing and then I was like wait can I even join the WAN show in my laptop's current state because OBS was a mess I couldn't get screen capture working because I was trying to show some of the challenges that I was having on the plane on the way over here and I wanted to record them and I literally couldn't um still haven't solved it I'm sure I can but I just haven't put in a ton of time to solve it yet.
6:35So I fired it up. And I was like, Oh, we are in serious trouble here. Because what I didn't realize is that while my camera works, the camera on this, this ASUS machine that I'm that I'm demoing right now that I'm using for the Linux challenge, super cool machine, Strix Halo, OLED screen, beautiful machine, awful webcam, just horrendous. So the webcam sucked. And even worse, my my onboard audio, it turns out wasn't working. And I didn't realize that for I've been I've been Linux pilled on this thing for, I think, two weeks now. the reason i didn't notice is because i i almost exclusively use my laptop docked so i'm always running over uh i'm always using a usb audio device or an hdmi audio device which does work or i'm using my airpods which do work my actual onboard audio doesn't work and so i so i'm in the hotel room and I'm like, okay, am I going to be able to do this?
7:48And I just plugged my headphones into my laptop and I go, holy crap. I don't have my, say I would normally use this mic and then I would use my headphones and neither of them were working. I was like, okay, what now? I can't go back to windows. That's not in the spirit of the challenge. So what are we going to do? All right. We got to go to a tech mall. We're going to the tech mall. so okay one one second just just to pause just pause you're we're getting some choppiness is this because you're on the other side of the planet like i'm looking for input potentially from dan as well this is your laptop no this is me using uh a solution that i found okay okay okay okay all right all right that i i think you're gonna like i think you're gonna like the solution okay is it a perfect solution no yeah yeah is my audio good is it just the video that chops a bit uh the audio i mean it's i can it's clear it's not as high quality as we've sometimes had on remote calls but it's i just mean does it chop does it chop no audio seems fine i think it's just the video i think all right okay so i headed to the tech mall which um the wikipedia article indicates is amazing you know and i found some other sort of raw raw raw korea type articles that are like yeah yeah it's amazing it's the best it's the biggest in south korea it's awesome that sounds great and then i found some recent reviews on trip advisor and from found some recent discussion on reddit that it's maybe seen better days and is quote unquote a ghost town and quote-unquote full of scammers and um so i went in with very mixed expectations it's gigantic it's across um over 20 buildings and totals like 5 000 shops so whoa unlike you know simlim square or unlike um the one that uh i went to in uh what's it called the the the taipei one um it's not a mall it's more like um like oh i'm gonna pronounce it wrong but like hua shang bay uh like like the big tech district in uh in shenzhen it's it's it's more like that so it's just like it's like a district and some of it is you know corporate offices and some of it is tech malls and some of it is more like traditional malls that just have a bunch of tech on the ground floor.
10:31So I had a simple objective, Luke. A simple objective. I wanted a desk USB microphone and a bougie webcam. And for bonus points... Has a simple objective. It's like, oh no. Why? I feel like you need to have more complicated objectives and then maybe things will be easier. I don't know. it's so true though like seven gamers one cpu yeah you nailed that got it done yeah i don't know for bonus points for bonus points i was like hey it'd be kind of cool to have a little led light you know so that i would actually look deece sure all right so i made my way through four or five floors of this place.
11:24And first, it seemed extremely promising. Just about the first store I walked into had a little like razor desk microphone. And I was like, oh, this is great. This was basically effortless. I'm going to be good to go. But hey, you know, I don't want to buy the first thing I see. I'm not that kind of guy. I want to scrapyard hunt a little bit i want i want to see what else they got so anyway i i i like pour through this place and it dude it's a journey it's a journey it ended up being like a very old school video i actually filmed it completely myself so i'm just on an iphone i've got my mic pack and i'm just exploring this tech mall and the ups and downs are crazy i'm like this is i'm probably more excited about this than like i i don't know that's just that sounds great i don't have much else to say it sounds awesome at one point at one point shortly after noticing an entire store dedicated to noctua which was pretty cool i was like on the verge of giving up and i find a logitech store and i'm like oh my gosh that's it that's the solution to my problem and i go wait oh oh uh-oh, it's just mice.
12:47It's like just mice. Whoa, okay. He's got two webcams. He has the dinkiest webcam of all time and the other ever so slightly less dinkiest webcam of all time and no microphones. And then finally I was like, okay, well, I don't want to walk away completely empty-handed. I'm going to go get that microphone. And the shop's closed. every other shop in the entire mall is open the one shop i went everywhere else not a single other desktop microphone lots of like crappy tacky gaming headsets no desktop usb microphones they're freaking closed so i'm just like okay whoo we're we're getting to the point now where we are starting to run out of time and i have nothing i have no microphone i have no webcam and I especially have no LED light.
13:40So I'm just like, I'm going to go to the Noctua store because they have an entire Noctua store. They're just probably based. And I'm going to ask them for help because I did ask some other people for help and they were basically just like, no English, goodbye. And I was like, okay. I mean, fair enough, right? Yeah, fine. But which is funny though, because in general, um i'm in south korea if nobody figured that out yet from sort of the contextual clues i everywhere else i've gone people have been like trip over themselves to be helpful helpful like i'll just i had a great experience a little bit confused i i spent like like four seconds looking at a metro map just to make sure that i was going down the right stairwell to go to the right terminus station right and some guy walks over and he's like can i help you do you do you need help are you lost i'm like no no i'm actually good but wow like thank you um been absolutely incredible not in the tech mall for some reason the vibe was very like like you make eye contact with them and they go oh foreigner pretend i didn't see him like and then even like like like laughing to each other that they're they're both like going out of their way to ignore me right now i'm like okay sure it might just be the one building that i started in though anyway the Noctua dudes, absolute bros.
15:03We used Google Translate and we figured it out and they sent me to a different building where, once again, I found something I needed, like, immediately. Hold on, I'm just going to check. Yeah. I walked basically through the door and into a shop with a Rode NT-USB Plus, which is a perfectly cromulent desktop microphone. Except, once again, I was like well come on i'm not gonna i'm not gonna just buy the first thing i see never mind that it's like getting to be close to yvonne and the kids are done at the zoo and we should probably get together for dinner at some point but i want to look around a little bit because dude this place was nuts in terms of like camera and production gear like they had i think it was what was it like an fs7 mark ii or something like that like multiple used camera bodies of that caliber right next to each other amidst like a hundred other production grade camera bodies just like dude you'd never get away with this kind of thing in north america just like on the ground floor of this mall like right next to the exit yeah like hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of camera bodies just like sitting on the counter crazy not even like like bolted to anything um and like and full of like secondhand stuff tons of secondhand tech actually in both in the first mall, which was more like PC hardware and in the second mall that ended up being more like video production and then also PC hardware and also like the bougiest audio equipment.
16:36Dan, you'd get such a kick out of this place. Like I saw turntables that were way more art than they were actually meant to be a turntable as far as I could tell. Anyway, I walk into the place, I get a quote. Okay, how much is it? Nothing's got pricing on it in a lot of the shops. So they just, like, they pull out a calculator, and it's like, you ain't calculating nothing. You're just typing a number in. Like, you just... They just use it so that they can, I don't know, seem like they calculated the price. Well, isn't it that thing, like, don't automotive dealerships do this too? If they don't say it, if they just show it to you, it doesn't, like, impact as much?
17:17I think it's like, a psychological thing. I think so. Because dealerships will write down the number and slide it over to you on paper so they don't have to say it. Really? I wonder if chat's gonna chime in. In Japan, these calculators show prices everywhere too. Maybe it's so that there isn't like miscommunication problems. Like a language barrier maybe? Yeah. I could definitely see that. That's what happened when I bought my bike. Negotiation tool. Maybe it's both. He shows me this price. He shows me this price on his calculator, and I go, okay, well, you know, I want to shop around a little bit.
17:54No, not going to buy the first thing I see. And I go and I look it up after I leave, and I'm like, oh, my God, that's like 100 US dollars more than if I just bought this thing at B &H. So while it's a perfectly good desktop microphone, and while I'll be honest with you guys, right? Like, you know, let's be real. the land show must go on and if it came down to it i would buy it so that i can be coming to you guys with reasonable quality from halfway around the world but i don't like just burning a hundred dollars like that it doesn't make me happy yeah so i was like okay i need to try to find something else dude if i'd been looking for like a like a hammer microphone and i wanted like a professional like like audio mixer or whatever dude i'd have been i'd have been so good so awesome uh if i wanted a road like like camera mounted like vlogging microphone i'd have been so good i couldn't find a single other place that had a usb microphone even in this second mall and i was like starting to lose hope and then and then this is actually kind of amazing totally serendipitous I was going past this store kind of like talking about the one side of it and Buddy gets like real mad at me for having my camera out because some of the stores here in particular the gaming ones they do not want you filming their storefronts and I don't know if it's because they have knockoff stuff or like pirated software or they have like emulated software running as part of their display whatever their reasons are for it There was one very Nintendo-centric shop in particular that was super mad when I had my phone out.
19:43I was like, sorry, bro. I honestly didn't even care about your store. So, sure. Anyway, I was going past this island in the middle of the mall, and I accidentally shot it. And he was like, bro, he was super mad. And then that actually made me stop. and I realized that and oh and he got mad at me about wearing a backpack too he was the first one to yell at me about my backpack and because I stopped because he yelled at me I realized that he also had the like the the little hole in the wall next to it and he had an NT-USB plus in there and I was like okay well look we got off on the wrong foot but I'll tell you what I'm gonna take my backpack off you can have it I'm gonna go over there and I'm gonna look a little bit more closely and he gave me a way better price so here it is okay i'm coming to you guys from a rode nt usb plus and i had long since given up on finding a bougie webcam so i went all in luke chips all in on the table on being able to use my phone as my webcam which is where the Linux saves the day comes in at the end of this story.
21:07Okay. Interesting. Buddy with the mic also had... What were the other things I needed? Okay, right, right, right. I needed a stand and a light. The light ended up not being great. I've got this what is it? It's a small rig. I want to say P96. Yeah. More like PooPoo 96 because this thing, as far as I can tell, just makes everything I pointed at worse. Dan had me turn it off before the show. So I also bought a stand and a light that are pretty bad. And then from another one down the, like just down the walkway in the mall, I got a little phone tripod that's also a selfie stick. And that's what I'm coming to you guys from there.
21:54So it's just over my laptop webcam. So last night I get back to the room. land shows in the morning for me right like it's a 9 a.m start or whatever it was so i'm not going to have time to go out shopping and re-kajigger a solution before literally yeah don't have another ssd to like put windows on this laptop and get that working because i've done the whole uh phone as a webcam thing before but never on linux so last night it's desperation time first i get the mic working the mic's working but like obs wasn't recording it for some blah blah blah a lot of troubleshooting that unfortunately i tried to record and ultimately i don't think i was able to record because the mic wasn't recording any of it so yeah cool that probably won't make it into the video and then i was like okay i need to figure out this camera so i found uh three solutions suggested by ai all of which apparently are ubuntu ready uh debian ready um i'm not using ubuntu i'm using kubuntu or ubuntu it's ubuntu not ubuntu but it's hard for me to remember that anyway i'm using kubuntu but that's basically just ubuntu with kitty so So it should be anything Ubuntu, I should be good to go.
23:21So I fire up my, what's it called? Home Discover, which is kind of the app store that Kubuntu comes with. And even though I've already configured it to use, what are the ones that I added? I added FlatHub, and I think I added something else. two of the three suggestions for use your phone as a webcam things didn't show up or they like basically yeah didn't work and then i found this one that is rated like three stars irian webcam for linux v2.9.1 I installed it there was literally nothing to configure I don't think I have ever used anything this seamlessly before in my life you've just got a drop down which camera would you like back camera, back telephoto what was that?
24:30back ultra wide what was that?
24:34One of them was like a monkey face Or something What do you mean monkey face That's my face bro I don't know I think one of them wasn't you No I swear Did anyone else see it I swear was there not Dan did you see that Am I crazy I'm pulling up playback What was that That was my face bro No one of them was different there's another drop down for video format you just pick your resolution and you pick your frame rate and then there's another one for whether you want to use the audio from your iphone that's it and you're just you're just good to go what are you what apparently it was my face it was zoomed in super blown out and upside down that's my face though the telephoto i'm gonna just screen cap it my bad my bad okay sorry sorry hold on it's like it's it's gonna monitor is gonna so i connected with a cable and that didn't seem to do anything so i'm just on hotel wi-fi It just immediately worked and has not been perfect, but it has like basically worked for as long as I've been streaming with you today.
25:59So I am completely coming to you Linux live and it's going great. Thanks to Irian webcam v2.9.1. Awesome. That's actually, that's pretty cool. it's been it's been sort of almost like a like a microcosm of my entire linux experience um even like over the years if i try to do something complicated it's shocking how how somebody thought of that and built a solution for it it tends to be and you try to do something when i try to do this when i try to do the simplest bloody thing it breaks let me install steam gone let me let me use my phone's camera as a webcam instantly works that's crazy see like i would have i would have been scared of that problem to be completely honest um yeah i'm surprised that was just like one shot that's really cool actually i was i was scared of this problem and like i i don't know man and you know what's funny is i saw someone cringing that i'm using ai as part of the linux challenge but there's two things right one is that that's how people are going to do it yeah you don't have to like it but you do have to just kind of sit down and accept it like all of my normie friends and family they go straight for the ai when they want to know how to do something these days and And you don't have to take my word for it.
27:31That's just a fact. And that's just declining use of click-through. That's just a fact. That's just how it is. And you can hate it, but you do just have to deal with it. That's how people are doing things. And what this is... Sorry, you can keep going. Number two is, honestly, it's been way more useful. When I was trying to figure out my screen recording issue, I came across a discussion thread that had, I kid you not, five different solutions for how I can solve screen recording issues on Kubuntu. I don't want five solutions. I want to know how to fix it. And all these individual people are just arguing with each other about the validity and merit of all these various solutions, some of which, like I tried the first couple and they didn't even like apply anymore.
28:26just wasn't that useful. And so that's the two things. So as part of the Linux challenge, it's something that I would do anyway just because a huge part of my approach is that I'm trying to kind of channel my inner what would a random... I have this one guy that I think of when I think of the Slackjawed gamer. And I bumped into him at PAX. like 11 years ago oh it was back when nvidia launched the shield portable handheld remember that thing yeah and i know i know the story you know the story you know the story okay so i encountered this guy who's sitting on a beanbag playing a pc game on this on this android portable um that is streaming over wi-fi which at the time was absolutely mind-blowing like I was so amped about Wi-Fi game streaming and the fact that this device with decent ergonomics and reasonable portability that could play Android games and you could stream your freaking PC games over Wi-Fi to it, it blew my freaking mind and eventually became GeForce Now and Moonlight and Steam Remote Play and just this technology and video was at the forefront of it.
29:50I think even just that concept in general also inspired you pretty heavily. towards what ended up being your like my my compute at my home is a server room thing yes because you used to talk a lot about how it would be likely that a lot of people would end up going that route and then distributing compute throughout their house and then that didn't get as popular as kind of a lot of people actually expected but you were still able to pull it off well for your setup not in the way that i anticipated yeah instead it lives in a data center somewhere in the form of GeForce Now or whatever Microsoft calls their remote Xbox stuff.
30:23Anyway, the point is I walk up to this guy who's experiencing the freaking future in his hands and I go like, oh yeah, what do you think? He's sitting there on this beanbag and he's like that was cool. I was like, oh yeah, do you realize that it's like beaming to you? And he's like I don't know. he's just gaming he's just gaming he doesn't care how it works he doesn't he doesn't want to go any further than like the lowest possible friction path to he's just playing his game he's like locked in and i was like okay well i'm basically i'm talking to a vegetable at this point yeah um but it was just it was really eye-opening to me because you know for many years i had thought oh well like you know gamers we're we're like we're very interested in like the hardware and and and And how it all is configured.
31:18And what every setting means. And we really care about all this stuff. But no. There is a very very large. Much larger. Way larger proportion of gamers. Who don't care. At all. Not even a little bit. And so yeah probably high. Yes charge nuclei. Almost definitely. Like high as a kite this guy. It was remarkable. Anyway. I forget where I was going with this. but the point is that that's how I'm doing it because that's how people are doing it and honestly I can't argue with the result worked great thanks I'm I'm coming to you I'm coming to you over Linux Linux saved the WAN show boys and I don't I don't have a I don't have much Linux news things have been going fine for me I think I've already updated WAN show on what's going on with my laptop so I have Linux Mint on there I guess a little bit of an update there just because you don't know what's going on because in the video I talk about how I've been running Arch on my laptop for a while technically when I filmed that it was running Windows and up until fairly recently it was running Windows but it was running Windows because it was having a hardware issue and Lenovo, the laptop maker was like maybe it's Linux which I'm not even upset at them for saying that reasonable enough because the hardware issue that was that was happening was the screen would just like lock and that's kind of weird so like it wasn't like the computer would just shut down randomly or anything the screen would lock um and there was no yeah anyways so they were like can you try windows so I did and the same problem happened and then I just was too lazy to switch back over because the whole point of running arch was to just point out that if you live in a browser all the time it just doesn't really matter um and then windows is getting in my way because the start menu stopped working so i rage i rage installed mint because i'm more comfortable with mint um and mint's been a fantastic experience i was pointing out to people before the show that i think it's actually really cool and i don't know how many maybe there's tons of other examples of this i don't know i'm not that experienced um but like if i type in sn for snipping tool screenshot will come up a tool that mint has yeah it's not snipping whatever it's screenshot if i type in paint it'll come up with drawing it it has like something some form of information that's like these are common things a windows user would type in a start menu it's kind of what they expect to come up and then those things tend to come up which is fantastic keywords yeah some aliases keywords something they have some type of list yeah some kind of metadata yeah and it makes it just super easy Oh my God.
34:00Everything I've had to do super easy. I had to sign PDFs, stuff's already installed, whatever. Super easy. What a joke. Um, the biggest problem with computers that I've had in the last week, um, isn't, isn't like technically a problem. It didn't stop me from doing anything. Um, but it's been that this computer is Dan and I think it's like failing to windows update, but constantly trying because there's because there's the windows modules installer worker that for literally hours at this point has been taking up a very significant amount of memory a very significant amount of cpu a decent amount of disk just everything and going like hard there has been times where we've seen it spin up to over like 40 cpu usage um and it's just sitting there almost always at the top the highest process being used and like i've got i've got chrome open right now on here with with the the wan dock and and float plane and chat and all this kind of stuff and it's it's not even chrome that's using the most system resources it's the windows module installer i've had some other interesting issues with it you try to install it and it fails and then to retry it has to download the whole thing again.
35:22Nice. And so it's probably downloading and it's so slow and then it fails and tries again. So with one browser with three tabs open and task manager I'm at 60 % memory. 25 % CPU usage because Windows Module Installer and the Service Host Windows Event Log and WMI and a few other things are just cranking like all the time. Oh my gosh. And yeah. So the biggest problem I've had during the Linux challenge has been a Windows computer. That being said, I haven't... I've been intentionally avoiding some things knowing that they won't work.
36:12But yeah, I don't know. So here's a question for you. Yeah. Is that a hack? because i i have mixed thoughts on this like on the one hand launching a game that says not compatible on proton db that feels like just throwing linux under the bus right well on the other hand if you go in in good faith being like i need to accomplish task a well here's my here's my out there's no solution yeah no that's fine here's my good faith thing i don't check i don't even go to proton db interesting i run in compatibility mode with 10 10 whatever 10 dash 0 4 whatever it is the newest uh proton compatibility mode and i just run it interesting i don't play as many games i used to i don't game as much as i used to everything's been fine the little tux in your game library will like tell you if it's linux ready anyway so you don't You don't even use that?
37:11Nope, don't look. That's crazy. To me, that's the kind of thing that if I did, people would be losing their minds at me. Like I'm trying to make Linux look bad. I haven't ran into a single problem. If I clicked play and it didn't launch, I'd look into something. But there has been no reason to. I'm not trying to. I saw some reviews. Some people reviewing our first video and some comment threads about it. And they're all like, oh, well, he's fine because he's super Linux experience. I'm not doing, in like the same way that Linus isn't doing anything, I'm not doing anything. I'm doing nothing. So far, it's been kind of luck of the draw.
37:52But like, you saw this, right? Like, we went down to Florida. I downloaded Slay the Spire 2 on pre-release launch. I clicked play. I mean, I would assume something light like Slay the Spire 2 would work. But then you can't assume. You can't assume. I don't think that's a crazy assumption either, to be honest. But like... Yeah. Yeah. It also wouldn't be crazy if it didn't work. Yep. It's in EA, right? Yep. But I didn't check anything. Not Electronic Arts. I didn't look up if anyone was having problems before we went into a place with dubious internet. I didn't plan anything. I did nothing. I installed the game, clicked play, and it worked completely flawlessly.
38:34It's also Godot. Oh, it's like... Yeah. it's uh yeah i just haven't uh it's been fun i um i i i played uh probably about three hours of god of war um like like remaster like not the first god of war game from like the playstation or whatever but like yeah god of war the relaunch whatever you want to call it yeah um and it was freaking awesome i don't know if i was getting as much performance as i would have gotten on windows but I was getting enough performance. I did run into a weird issue where my charger, I only brought like a little compact 65 watt charger and this laptop, realistically, it comes with like a 150 watt charger or something like that.
39:22But I can, I can game off of that charger and they'll like, it'll hold the line. Like it won't charge or discharge. So that was what I brought with me. and I did run into an issue where I got down to 10 % battery and I got that notification and then I was like oh crap someone knocked my my charger off on the plane so I put it back in and then because that notification kept like coming and going and coming and going because I was like riding 10 % forever the game eventually entered a state where it just got kind of choppy and wouldn't run properly so I had to turn it off charge up a little bit launch the game again and then it was smooth again but like realistically i don't know i would have you could have an issue like that on a on a windows pc as well so i'm i'm counting that as as it ran pretty darn good yeah and i'm really enjoying the game so far i've finally freaking playing it it's funny how that kind of happens for me is it takes like a new device launch or a linux challenge or something for me to finally get into a game i've been meaning to play for years yeah um like did that come out 2018 or 2017 or something not quite but i think i think we're getting close um there's been like sequels to it since then um but there there is some things like you know i'm not playing uh i don't know basically any multiplayer shooter game yeah and again it's i feel like it's less impactful this time around because i'm not playing as much stuff um right Right, yeah.
40:58I mean, your gaming rig has been just, like, locked away for freaking six months anyway. So it's not like you're, like, locked in and hyper in there, deep into a season of something, right, as you're starting the challenge. And, you know, the wipe's coming soon and you want to get in a bunch of gaming or whatever. The one casualty is Tarkov released 1.0 recently and you can, like, escape from Tarkov now. You can, like, complete the game. and I like have some curiosity to do that and finally put like a pin in it and be like I have completed and that's the draw is not strong enough for me to like really care I think like it's one of those we had this conversation pretty early of like it kind of blows you need to compromise what games you can play because your operating system and I'm sitting here on Linux being like the experience has been pretty good i don't really care enough i think to uh so far this this is even i think that might be a bit of a boomer dad take though it might be but it's like gaming is not gaming is not as much of a central part no no that i know i just mean like gaming in general i don't think is as much of a central part of your social life that's where i'm getting with this yeah there is a weird i saw somebody point out and i don't know if this would work with tarkov maybe it were some other things uh and this isn't even a recommendation and like it's kind of i wouldn't want to do it i'm i have actually less interest in this than i do in like dual booting which i don't have a lot of interest in um but geforce now is apparently a way you can get around some stuff like fortnite apparently you can play fortnite through geforce now um i i didn't have interest in playing fortnite before i don't have interest in playing fortnite now um but yeah like i'm trying to think of what slay the spire one and two i've launched both of those um baldur's gate
42:57uh my dad and i jumped on wow that worked you just have to add wow you have to go in steam and then click activate a non-steam game and then just add the installer through there and it and then it'll just proton you yeah it just works it's okay which is like you know that does take a second you have to google like okay what and then the whole internet honestly what's been really really helpful and i wonder if this is a bit of a hack for me is part of the reason why i went with cash is because it's based on arch so i can follow the steam deck guides right yep so that was what i ended up seeing for uh wow was a steam deck guide how do i play on Steam Deck.
43:44And I was like, that'll probably work for me. And then, yeah, it did. I gotta be honest with you. I've been happy about my Kubuntu choice for pretty much the same reason. Because Ubuntu and Debian are by far the most supported when it comes to just like a random application for using your iPhone as a webcam. That being said, literally, I'd be really interested if you sent that to me because i figured out recently the whole tarball thing it's just a zip file you just open it and then run the stuff that's inside of it and it seems to work fine i had something that was made for uh debian work with nothing from my end um immediately it was completely fine so i don't know uh let me have a look at what their what their download formats are uh oh yeah it's a oh it's a beta i actually forgot to mention that that the irian webcam is beta for linux and it just worked immediately to 2204 or later required so they're literally on their site was not an obvious way to um yeah so it's a.deb download so all I had to do was just open it in my store in my discover store or whatever the stupid thing is called in my discover store and go for it so sorry no this one's not beta so the support for Ubuntu is not beta and then there's a Linux RPM package which I'm not familiar with I don't know what that means I don't know how that relates to your tarballs or whatever but that one is in beta and that's.rpm whatever that is so when it comes to doing anything not gaming which i haven't actually really needed a ton of guides for i've been extremely happy to be on debian basically to be on ubuntu yeah i found um you know mint just had all the stuff pre-installed like i've been having a good time with cashy but i i don't know if i would recommend cashy to a ton of people um it's i to be that guy out of the box i don't know if i would recommend any flavor of the week distro no and not not because this is a big part of the reason why i think yeah but because the people who tend to evangelize these distros are self-selecting as people who enjoy tinkering yeah and so the very fact that they are recommending it tells me that that's probably not what I want.
46:33No offense. No offense. For me, it's been fine, but it has been like, okay, I have to go get something for screenshots. Alright. There's been stuff like that, and it's been easy to do so. I, like you, you were talking about how you haven't been using... Thank you, I like you too. You were talking about how you haven't been using the forums much and stuff. I've been kind of avoiding them as well. Me too, but I've been mostly avoiding them. The level one text forum is permanently based, but a lot of the other ones, like, honestly, I just don't need that much negativity. You get like a simple question, and then it's just 20 pages of people screaming at each other for like often completely unrelated reasons.
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47:20It's wild. it's honestly just kind of terrible but level one text has been awesome and holy wars are bad and the collateral damage is not worth it and you were talking about how like the flavor of the month distros thing one thing I will give Cashi as much as I wouldn't necessarily recommend it to new Linux users so much at least in my experience is their wiki is awesome if you're willing to kind of like pour through a wiki a bit I could actually totally see new users using Cashi. They have like this software list thing where it's like, oh, here's a ton of different things you might need to do on your computer.
47:58And here's recommended software that you can use on Cashi. And here's the like package name. So you can install it super easy, stuff like that. But yeah, their wiki is sweet. Their documentation is really good. So I've often, I've kind of defaulted to just like, I'm not actually going to look up what people are saying. I'm just going to look up the wiki and just find the information already there and grab that yeah yeah it's been pretty good I will say the Mint experience has been more comfortable isn't safe nope, nowhere is I think like toxicity so you've never tinkered with Windows especially when you had to learn PC stop lying nobody said that nobody said anything about that it's just it's honestly like it it sucks i honestly i think it i think it might be worse than the first time we did this um which i find interesting i was i was expecting it to be better after that like i it seemed like after the initial very strong re-action last time around.
49:10It seemed like a lot of people stopped blaming the user quite as much when they realized, oh, wait, that was a really bad bug that caused that. Oh, wait, a lot of this feedback is really valuable. We actually have a couple of people who between them had at the time probably about 30 years of experience testing tech products doing free QA like maybe this is valuable what's going on right now and a lot of stuff on the developer side got fixed after we flagged it after we had issues with it Linux the experience of using Linux again itself both Mint and Cache has actually been really cool The improvements over the last, what, four years has been wild.
50:01Yeah, it's been about five years. That's been one of the really cool things about using Mint on my laptop, too, is as much as I'm playing around with Cache, I get to experience the thing that I did last time, too. And seeing the gap, Mint has come really far. People trash on Mint for not getting as many updates because it's an LTS thing and all that kind of stuff. There's other parts of that as well. But it has gotten a lot better, actually. and I kind of liked it last time so like that's been really cool and even just using Cashi like things feel like they've really been worked on since last time we did this challenge but the community just ah guys the memes aren't cool like it's actually just sucks it's very it's very uh acidic I don't want to go near it too much and again there are havens for like the fourth time or something the level one text forum is awesome um that that caching wiki is freaking fantastic um there are places where you can have really good interactions um but man there is just so much prickly i don't know it's very like holier than thou mentality um i must be right about my opinion that multiple people could be right about situation so this is really important um are on my float playing commenter is still upset basically going you hold linux to a bar and then flame it that's how it feels and it's like yeah it's all about the perspective when you hear me talk about linux in general open source in general you'll hear me be extremely uh you'll hear me praise it like very very strongly because the concept is incredible world changing is is not an overstatement right uh the free open source software is is is like you know youtube yeah i i would i would say as a wonder of the world is is incredible it's something we've never had before and yeah may never see again if somehow we we lose what we have now this amazing thing and and part of what's amazing about it is that it shouldn't be lost it doesn't seem like it it's possible for it to be lost but we should never take that for granted either that's all i'm trying to say um so from that perspective you know i'm very positive very bullish i mean you've heard me many times publicly talk about how the year of the linux desktop is coming i think steam os could be the one however when i am approaching something from the perspective of an individual user who's trying to get something done, you're just going to have to put the emotions aside because, and so am I, if I go and I click run this software and it doesn't, or it has me donking around in the terminal a bunch, then I'm going to have to just give you a reality bomb that most people don't want to do that.
52:58and that's a terrible user experience and when I show up on a forum talking about that terrible user experience and you get emotional like you're getting emotional right now and you make it that I'm attacking this thing that is precious to you instead of just going okay maybe this thing I love isn't perfect and could be better that's destructive that actually works against what we're all trying to do and what I am rooting for which is year of the Linux desktop. But these different perspectives matter and these different framings matter. Linux challenge is not about do I love open source software and do I support it?
53:40It's about, hey, as a gamer, how actually usable is this day-to-day and how much work do I have to put into it? Am I substituting... Go ahead. It's also not a Linux sales pitch. Like I've seen some... yeah i've seen some people like upset that the negativity exists i've seen some people upset that linus is trying to interact with things in the way that a normal user might and stuff and it's like guys what like what positivity there are 10 trillion i switch to linux videos on youtube there's so many people have figured out that this format kind of works and people click on it uh cool sounds great this is our angle everyone's going to have their own um yeah it's it's it's interesting but like it's it is a problem that the community is so toxic being honestly being too being too positive about something i think can can be equally destructive to it if you misrepresent something big time i mean think about it if you're shopping for a car okay and you walk into the dealership and they tell you it gets a thousand miles to the gallon and the paint never peels it never needs to be washed and the second you know a woman sees you in it she will be drawn to you magnetically and you buy this thing and it turns out it's just a car, you're going to be disappointed because the framing of it was totally wrong.
55:20And you lose trust. Exactly. And, and, and you might never buy a car from that brand again. That's why I think it is so important to just take off the makeup and be realistic about what this is like and what the problems are. And if I find a problem, if a problem that I find is that, hey, this OS that everyone knows it's bad still gets recommended a lot by tools like google search and like chat gpt that you don't have to like it but you do have to just kind of deal with it that basically everyone uses then don't be mad at me i'm just the messenger solve the problem if that's what you're passionate about this is off topic the problem but you said steam os could be the one for a year of the linux desktop uh i don't think it's going to be i don't think it's going to be probably ever um i don't think valve is going to want to support the non-gaming aspects of it um but that's one of the reasons why i've been playing around in like arch land and like playing around with a couple different distros and stuff like that is because my current extremely ignorant vibe check is like maybe the path that they're on is going to get a lot of support.
56:43And I've been kind of seeing that with cache EOS and like these different types of things. I don't think if we went back four years ago and I'm probably wrong about this in some way. What is it? Manjaro. Manjaro was Arch based. Isn't that right? Is Manjaro Arch based? No, I don't think so. yes manjaro is arch based um yeah oh okay um yep thank you so that that that was if i'm you ended up using that right yeah i did i used manjaro i forget why i decided to use manjaro but i ultimately settled on it so i think that was like yeah no no okay yeah it's because it's easy arch yeah or it was yeah i don't know might still be um but i i think that was like just kind of starting to become a thing as like that could maybe be used for gaming but arch was always just the big spooky side of things uh people didn't really want to touch it i remember um people started talking about the AUR around that time.
57:49And it started becoming a little bit more approachable. And there was Manjaro and a couple of things like that. And these days now it's like, oh, it's the gaming thing. And cache OS is over there. And oh, Steam OS is built on this thing. And gaming focus, gaming focus, gaming focus. And I think the other things will kind of follow. And I think something in that realm might make it, which is why I'm trying to familiarize myself with those things instead of just sitting in my comfortable mint land forever. So the reason I think it's going to be SteamOS is because I believe at this point, and I've seen too much in our last Linux challenges and just with the development of open source software in general, I believe you need a vision for something like an operating system.
58:42I think you need a really strong direction. And SteamOS has it. And while I do absolutely see your point, that with their focus on ultimately, like let's not kid ourselves, selling more Counter-Strike gun skins, right? Like, you know, what drives Valve at the end of the day? I can see how you might not have faith that they're going to put the time and the work into the other aspects of the desktop experience from talking to the folks there, from seeing the direction that they're going, from the Steam Deck, right, which is handheld only. It's big picture only, right? And seeing how much they wanted to talk about how much they've improved the desktop experience with the Steam Machine.
59:37The fact that one of their demos was with a desktop monitor and the steam machine running in desktop mode um the fact that like it was a while back we were trying to get this ancient printer working for a video and that was when i realized that steam os had no built-in support for printers of any sort you had to basically like cludge it in yourself um since then i believe they do support printers now and there would be no do you want to double can someone double check that for me i'm going to need a luke i don't know here but i i believe that is a thing now there is no reason to support printers and and the printing stack out of the box if you don't freaking intend for this to be a desktop operating system so to me the the vision that i see and the direction that they're going are the strongest and the most cohesive.
1:00:40And I just don't know. Yes, printer support added in SteamOS 3.6. And I just... I see how much money they're putting into making the experience better for gamers. And I know that gamers are just one specific use case, but they also are a use case that demands high performance, that tends to be micro-influencers for their friend groups around them. And I see momentum building that way. And I saw a couple comments in the chat. Yeah, but it's AMD only. Valve would love for SteamOS to be super NVIDIA-friendly tomorrow. But from... And this is me putting words in their mouth. No one from Valve has told me this.
1:01:28Any of this. I'm assuming that they would love for SteamOS to be NVIDIA-friendly. And what I'm basing that on is that the original Steam machines 10 years ago used NVIDIA cards. Valve clearly wanted to use NVIDIA at some point. But from what I can tell, it basically just comes down to vendor cooperation and vendor software support. Something that Torvalds mentioned has gotten way better from NVIDIA. now that linux and ai and nvidia all have a common direction that they're trying to go yeah yeah yeah will the gaming hardware follow yeah i uh i think it i think it will um there's also man there's also like bigger industry trends that we can look at and go okay well does nvidia matter that much you could look at their their gaming discrete gpu market share what is it 95 percent in the most recent report and go, yeah, yeah, it's the only thing that matters.
1:02:29But like the laptop that I'm running on right now, this machine does not have a dedicated GPU and I don't care at all. Even a little bit. I'm using an APU, but with the performance of the AMD Radeon 8060S or whatever the model is graphics in this thing, I don't care. so yeah if amd's market share continues to absolutely suck donk on discreet but their apus continue to go the direction that they're going right now where they own the business of sony playstation own the business of microsoft xbox whatever form that ultimately ends up taking pretty much own the entire gaming handheld space and are shipping these incredible high power gpu APUs that are going to start to dominate in laptops or even small form factor desktops like the framework desktop investment disclosure I don't know man maybe that whole thing that I remember AMD first talking about with Fusion back shortly after the ATI acquisition maybe that whole thing where desktop computers don't need a discrete GPU like becomes a thing gross um gross I know you might be right I know it's still gross though and yet and yet I was playing god of war and it was freaking awesome on what as a high powered solution yes very expensive right now but I remind everyone is an integrated GPU what integrated graphics dude gross and yet here we are though no i hear you i hear you i can accept the reality and still be disgusted by it there's a lot of that lately um person for sure says i don't want soldered on ram but guess what buddy you already have soldered on ram the ram on your gpu is soldered because it needs to run at super high speeds we're just using our gpu ram as also system memory nothing changed just your your perception changed your your perspective changed yeah that that computer that you stick into your computer that is the graphics card that always like really fascinates me it really is its whole own computer like if you look at if you look at if you if you really like analyze a whole graphics card it has the whole everything has everything everything buddy and like especially the professional grade ones that can do you know virtualization and stuff and that happened and they like it's yeah it's just a computer in your computer yeah it's funny because like in some ways intel larabee was so far ahead of the curve on that where it was general purpose compute that was just hyper hyper parallel and could also be used for graphics and it was just a computer uh but yeah so much so much for larabee yeah uh have we actually done any topics yet i don't think so this could transfer us into a weird jump if we wanted to to the 3060 news oh here here's a good one hold on last thing on a hickage says fun fact the bazite devs just updated the website to make the warning for the nvidia deck iso which is broken more obnoxious and clearly stated linus's experience has already made linux better i think that's the thing the community zealots are mad the developers if they're smart are looking at this going this is free qa holy crap we should action this so shout out bazite for recognizing it for what it is calling something beta in this day and age i I mean, Gmail was beta for 10 years.
1:06:31Calling something beta doesn't mean what it used to. And honestly, the experience that I had on that particular ISO for Bazite was not even the old definition of beta. That was like alpha or pre-alpha. It was completely broken, just completely broken. So, I don't know, dude. Yeah. Where is it? Back then it was beta mail. now it's gmail thank you chat you guys are great top okay here we go this is a potentially short topic but i did want to transition to it just because we're talking about like what gpus people are actually using and stuff like that and then we can go to what dan was talking about but nvidia reportedly brings back production of the rtx 3060 to samsung 8 nanometer production Samsung is restarting production of their 3060s, discontinued in 2024 on its 8-nanometer node, according to Korean outlet Hank Young.
1:07:33I'm just going to confidently say that, and we'll see how it goes. NVIDIA's RTX 40 and 50 series both run on TSMC's custom 4-nanometer node, a 5-nanometer class process, because it's all just naming at this point, that's maxed out producing Blackwell gaming and AI chips. So the old Samsung 8nm line can run without cutting into next-gen supply. The move is being driven by a few things at once. A GDDR7 memory shortage is squeezing RTX 50 series supply, and NVIDIA's high-end AI chips face an uncertain and shifting regulatory congressional restrictions in terms of shipping to China and doing all this weird stuff.
1:08:14The older RTX 3060 sidesteps pretty much all of that since it falls outside of the restricted categories entirely. It's still unclear whether the returning card will be on the 12 gig original or the cut down 8 gig variant. But one of the really, really cool side effects of this is people who currently have a 3060 or potentially just 3000 series GPU in general will probably have elongated driver support because of this, which is really cool because those cards still kind of rip. Still pretty based. Yeah, absolutely. So like if you're still running a 3060 because, hey, why not? I mean, there's a ton of people still asking for a few more years out of their 1080s and 1080TIs.
1:09:03So I'm sure there's a ton of people still running 3060s. Then sick. You're going to have a lot more driver support. there's so many games coming out that really don't need much more power um i'm sure 3060s run something like arc raiders no problem with that said if some of the rumors that i've seen about the next generation xbox or anything to go by and also the playstation 6 don't forget that we're at the end of a cycle right now yeah we're at the end of a console cycle and there's always a leap once the dev kits for ps6 and xbox whatever they end up calling it start to roll out to developers we are going to start to see next generation games hit development we're also going to continue to see live service games that continually get their graphics updated like wow um that are going to keep moving forward and so we shouldn't get we shouldn't necessarily go okay well you know a 30 60 ought to be enough for everyone kind of thing but right now i 100 percent agree i was actually i was gaming on a 3060 recently for some reason what was it oh right i remember we did um the brazilian pc right that's i i think actually up on float plane right now you guys can watch it um we ordered pcs from brazil which tends to be a couple of generations behind because it turns out that import tariffs are actually a really great way to make everything way more expensive for people who want to buy stuff that's not a political statement that's just math um and math is math i don't make the rules about it so so we did the brazil pc and i was gaming on a 3060 and i was playing freaking cyberpunk and i was like holy crap is dlss ever like good these days and i'm having a pretty darn good experience right now like what yeah 3060 is still a pretty freaking awesome it's a sick card so if we're going to get more driver support out of this that's just like i didn't even really think immediately about like what i would call like a restricted market like brazil kind of is um where this is going to help them even more and that's awesome um yeah so i just thought this was honestly kind of it's it's i could see people taking this negative news i'm just going to decide to take it as good news because hey we could use one of those and i like the idea of the driver support extending but yeah i think this is great news is that a controversial take no i just i'm just kind of sitting here thinking like someone might see it as negative because this means that they're not necessarily increasing like they're not increasing capacity and getting out more like 50 series cards uh which means that they'll be maintaining the price of those cards I've wondered for years now why the the low-end one isn't just the last gen one and for a long time that wasn't feasible because the old nodes the gp the dies would be so big that the cost just doesn't make any sense but for years now you've had everyone Intel Nvidia AMD talking about how well the new product is just more expensive because yes we can make a better one because of the die shrink but but it costs so much more to manufacture that there isn't really like a cost benefit and i was like okay well then why don't you just make you know bigger bigger dies on the older node of your last gen card and just keep printing them and that can be your low end like i'm i'm super like dude if nvidia wanted to make more than just 30 60s if they wanted to make 30 70s i'd be super down for that too bring it bring it on like what is the ai card a lot of people try to go for 3090s oh yeah people still love 3090s 24 gigs that wouldn't make any sense though just because of how much ram you're putting into it and it's just too much gpu to make for how much ram you have to put on it for how much performance and how much power consumption you're going to get and again i've got i've got people in chat yelling at me i'm not saying relax i'm not saying i think it's negative news i said repeatedly that i think it's positive news i was just saying that some People might think I'm getting that angle right now.
1:13:19It's a tube of meat. It's seasoned. It goes on the grill. I prefer flat meat. It comes off delicious. I'm going to come out and say it. I prefer flat meat. So much colon cancer. But that's later. My meat should be flat and circular. Not health advice. Not health advice.
1:13:40Really? Okay. more information than I wanted.
1:13:51Anyways, I was just saying like a shift of direction. I know it's a different process node. I know it's different manufacturing. I know it's going back to Samsung. It's not using the 5 nanometer. We literally just talked about that. I know that's a thing. It's like attention pulling away. It's not potentially increasing whatever blah blah blah. It's still like it's not an argument I even agree with. I was just saying that I could see some people trying to take that angle. Okay, so chill. Circular meat is fine. Tube meat is fine. Anyways, Dan, CW things or something? Get me out of here. Yeah, you Blumplast.
1:14:28More topics, you Blumplast. Coms. Why don't we do the CW announcement and a couple comms. Alright. Hey! Creator Warehouse's ambitions of being more than just the, you know, merchandise arm of Linus Media Group are coming to fruition here, L's and G's, because the Blanks collection is expanding. Luke, if anyone's going to screen share, it's going to have to be... It's up. Way ahead of you. What a guy. What a freaking guy. We are now showing off our Blanks Zip-Up Hoodie, which is designed for easy layering while keeping that clean, minimal look. It's available in black and Dusty Olive, and is made from the same 100 % French terry cotton as our classic blank hoodies.
1:15:19And we're also introducing a blank hoodie that is not zip up in Dusty Olive. You can complete the set with our new blank sweatpants available in also black and dusty olive. These are great for lounging, the gym, or quick errands, and they match nicely with our other tops and hoodies, even older colors that you might already have. Visit lmg.gg slash blanks to shop the collection. And hey, if you happen to be another creator who has some kind of interest in working with us, but you're not that interested in having LTT branding all over the stuff that you have, you know, hey, what about creator warehouse branding?
1:16:00That seems perfectly not LTT.
1:16:07nice dig dug says blank is pointless i mean i prefer it a lot actually and like lots of people do there's tons of people that don't want to wear uh brand logos and like i i think our brand logos are subtle enough that it's totally fine and there's sometimes where i do kind of like brand logos i don't know i go back and forth but this looks kind of sharp to me it's subtle it's understated it looks nice it works it works good i've i've i've had multiple people tell me and this blew my flipping mind i've had multiple people tell me that they would buy the commuter bag if only it didn't have the ltt branding on it can you just i was like do you stitcher that bro it's one centimeter by one centimeter black on black what are you even talking about but there are people who are so um how do i put this uh very set on a particular mindset goal that they just somebody in full plane chat said you can't offer your point is mute yeah except i've bought blanks that weren't from us before so my point is not mute um it is it is generally good so triggered right now even as someone who m-o-o-t m-o-o-t moot not mute m-u-t-e yeah no idea um i uh as someone who isn't even that good at fashion stuff at all not even sort of nice something that the people who are good at the fashion stuff have told me is that i should have more blank things because i always just had like uh convention shirts oh god basically i had 100 percent of my wardrobe for a long years was convention shirts and then fashion people were like hey you should probably just have like a plain white tee and a plain black tee and like a couple other colors and then those can go with whatever and then you'd look a lot more presentable in a lot more scenarios and I was like oh that that was like part of growing up it was like I'm an adult now I need to not have like the equivalent of band shirts but for technology or games um and like those are still cool i still wear those but there's time and place for things and sometimes it's not up to people uh brumby in floatplane chat says yeah i had to unstitch the logos off of my ltt cargo pants in order to meet work policies yeah sometimes you're you're not allowed to wear stuff um totally get it and look i totally understand the perspective too of uh who is it uh bookhorse says don't want to be a walking advertisement don't want to be a consumer and totally get that too um but i don't i don't personally consider a one centimeter by one centimeter black on black logo on an entire backpack to be consumer level branding walking advertisement that's like come on what are you even what are you what are you even talking about buddy like i don't know man but either way either way we're we're doing our you know we're doing our part we're making unbranded stuff so now all you have to do is do your part and buy it and then we can keep making it yeah and if you don't want a blank tease that's totally fine i didn't want blank tease for a long time.
1:19:36But they obviously, very obviously have a utility.
1:19:44Hold on, I have an idea. What are you doing now? What are you doing now?
1:19:55Spanky says, I'd love Creator Warehouse to offer some self-branding stuff. I'd probably buy 100 to 200 pens or pencils if I could change the logo to our companies. it is the kind of thing that we could do but for a hundred units that would be really tough and it all just depends on how it's done like whether it's uh if it's a mold it's just not feasible for small amounts of units like i think if someone ordered thousands of screwdrivers from us we could talk about changing the logo for like the plastic screwdriver for something like doesn't work pens i don't want to put any words in the cw team's mouth but i think it would have to be at least hundreds before we'd be able to look at a logo change it just it depends on it depends on our suppliers it depends on lead times it depends on you know how much you're willing to pay for the customization but hey it never hurts to reach out sorry luke what were you gonna say uh my google search ended up working i tried to like pull a gambit where i googled attractive man and then i realized that they were all wearing dress shirts and i was like that didn't work so i tried attractive man wearing a t-shirt and i wanted to be like look they're all wearing blank t-shirts uh and then even searching attractive man wearing a t-shirt only brought up dudes wearing button-ups i was like what the hell that should tell you enough shouldn't it it did a little bit i was like dang i guess luke we just got told i think so it didn't work at all good thing we sell pretty brandless button-ups I mean maybe we did did we get rid of them I don't know wait I got it to work this time and I'm totally right they're all blank they're all blank every single one of them is blank all of them are blank okay there's one one two with upload your image here I don't think that counts almost all blank tees yep there's a few that aren't but they're almost all blank tees so yeah what up i don't know fashion things but fashion people told me and apparently fashion people were right surprise surprise white but for shirts okay dan you're gonna have to guide us a little bit here because we're clearly not i can't see your signs i'm trying like luke's ignoring me cool you're gonna plug whale land or just okay you said it to him too didn't you no oh it was just me we could do that okay yeah let's do whale land we have we have locked in the dates for the next whale land it's going to be on may 23rd and 24th byoc tickets so that is bring your own computer tickets are going to be starting at 80 canadian so what's that work out to about 60 us dollars like 55 60 us dollars and there will be a limited number of whale vip tickets for five thousand dollars canadian vips will get obviously their ticket to the event but also a high-powered custom-built gaming pc to game on a prismagic screwdriver a lightweight packable jacket a premium polo and a studio plus labs tour ticket sales will start this coming monday at noon pacific whaleland.com and we will see you there uh luke how are those dates looking for you hopefully good.
1:23:20Oh yeah, no, I think so. I think I'm like just generally going to be at Whalelands. May 23rd and 24th. May. Yeah. When is Computex? Not May 23rd and 24th. I think it'll be shortly afterward.
1:23:39Whoa. It's like. What? Immediately afterward. Yeah. I mean, it's a week later. I'll just, well, normally I go a week early. So maybe I'll just, yeah, yeah. Maybe I'll just come back a week late. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just fine. I've done that too. Yeah. Yeah. That's good to know though. I'm happy we just figured that out. But yeah, I mean, I'm intending it. I'm intending to generally be attending. Yeah. All right. Sounds good. Yeah. Let's get another topic in here. Another topic. Yeah. Look at that. Intel's new CPUs are their fastest gaming desktop processors ever. And there was, once upon a time, a time when I would have said, wow, the new water is wetter than ever in response to that.
1:24:31But in fact, Intel did have a generation of desktop CPUs that, in fact, were not their fastest gaming CPUs ever. So we can't take that for granted. So this is good news, everyone. Intel is super bullish on the recently announced Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus and Core Ultra 5 250K Plus. These new chips offer four additional e-cores or efficiency cores compared to their direct predecessors, have faster clock speeds, and this has got to be a really big one here, have significantly improved die-to-die frequency over their predecessors, the 265K and 245K. This translates to support for 7200 megatransfer per second RAM, as if anyone can afford that these days, and early support for four-rank CU-DIMM modules.
1:25:30Again, as if anyone could afford those, but cool, cool beans. Intel, appreciate you. Notably, these improvements were achieved without Intel increasing the chip's 125-watt TDP. The Ultra 7 270K Plus features 8p cores and 16e cores, which actually matches the core count of the flagship Core Ultra 9 295K. Um, okay? And it is also worth noting that while the 295K was, and in fact the whole lineup of Core Ultra 200 series was criticized for uncompetitive pricing and lower gaming performance. Over time, they have improved. Pricing has gotten lower. And these new refreshed Arrow Lake CPUs are apparently looking to deliver up to a 13 % gaming increase over their predecessors while coming in at very similar pricing.
1:26:28So the$250K plus is going to be starting from$199 with the 270k plus starting from, this says$199, but I believe it's$299. Yeah, starting from$299. So cheap? No. But a$200 chip that Intel claims is faster than the 9600X from AMD comes with that many flipping cores. like yes some of them are e cores but these Intel hybrid P core e core chips tend to be great for non gaming as well not to mention all the gaming improvements man that seems like it it seems like a pretty compelling value and it's not just hardware where Intel is trying to make gains like Nvidia they've realized if you can't win with better fabrication then you can take the fight to software except Nvidia also has been using cutting-edge fabrication but yeah whatever the point is intel binary optimization tool will be part of their intel application optimization software package and is touted as a first of its kind optimization technology hoping to increase instructions per clock in certain games by leveraging intel compiler and profiling ip to streamline library and executable performance now i remember a time not that long ago when we considered that kind of optimization to be like cheating um and using sort of using non-standard uh compilers in order to get a performance benefit compared to your competition and now they're just playing the game we live in a very very different world um you know remember when remember when making changes to the rendering pipeline on a gpu was cheating and now that's like nvidia's headline feature for their latest gpus is all the changes that they make to the rendering pipeline with ai and whatnot and honestly this implementation sounds very different from the old cheaty way where they would um allegedly coerce companies into using their tools that benefited their cpus it sounds like what's happening here is they're taking scattered instructions from code that might be optimized for older architectures and repacking them to reduce architectural contention.
1:28:52And it sounds like it won't have a negative impact on the competition. It will just perform better on Intel, which maybe is better than it used to be before.
1:29:06Anyone been around long enough to know if that sounds about right? Anyway, we don't know how well it's gonna work until we can try out their APO software in our upcoming review. but it seems like from everything that we're seeing communication wise out of intel they are extremely bullish yeah on these which i would hope so so hopefully we're hopefully we're happy about the result you can hope but like last time around hope didn't really get us anywhere hope's all we can have brother nothing else is worth it nothing else is worth it despair is not worth it it doesn't help you anyways uh thank you do you have any supplements to sell me uh yeah i've got a lot of peptides i whatever whatever peptide you want tell me your problem and i'll come up with uh yeah we should probably stop talking
1:30:15whatever your element i'll have a pill um okay what do we want to do google's killing the place for monopoly that's fun uh by june 30th developers you know what no hold on hold on we can get to that in a second first i want to talk i had to have the uh i had to have the snake oil folk medicine conversation with my eldest daughter on this trip um they they all got 20 dollars 20 canadian dollars for a souvenir um budget and uh she picked out this little it's like a little woven mat and it has a little cat on it it's cute it's a cat on a mat whatever sure Anyway, the cellar lady was super determined to talk about the air purification and health benefits of this little stuffy cat on a little woven mat.
1:31:10And kept talking about activated charcoal. And I kind of went, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. And then I had to have the conversation with my daughter after the fact where I go, okay. So this is the most dangerous type of hook 'em, where there is a grain of truth upon which a tower of lies and misunderstandings is built. Does activated charcoal have odor reduction qualities? Yes. Yeah, totally. however only if we are actively running air through it not if it's just sitting there on your dresser and we need to have a way to either swap out the you're gonna got that fake cat activated charcoal or we have to have a way of removing it and putting it out in the sun to reactivate it neither of those things are true it's just activated charcoal in a pillow that just sits there and has no way to replace it or recharge it and so we just need to you know learn to i read this really interesting article on the atlantic earlier this week about how western society has a major problem with both gullibility and cynicism and being gullible to the wrong things and cynical about the wrong things how can you be so gullible and so accepting of anything that's that someone tells you no matter how ridiculous it sounds and at the same time so cynical and disbelieving of experts.
1:33:00And there's a lot of super, super deep reasons for it that the article only skims the surface of. But it's fascinating. And it's something that has sort of been on my mind as something that we really have to flag with our kids and talk about how to navigate your way through. You should be cynical and you should believe people but you've got to make sure that you're cynical of the right things and you believe the right people otherwise you're going to end up in in deep trouble like uh one of the things the article touched on is how smart people you know let's not just be dismissive and say well anyone who believes in something stupid is too stupid not that simple smart people who live in a bubble who live in an information echo chamber can end up believing some some some some shockingly there's also tons of crazy stuff like the the desire to for something to be true can also influence how much you believe that it is true and like yeah life is jumping in with hey these fries would be like super healthy and you could eat as many as you want if if only they were fried in beef tallow instead of oh scary seed oils it's like yeah i yeah you know if i just wanted to like enjoy french fries i might love to believe that i can ignore all the other parts but it tastes It's amazing.
1:34:23Not going to die. It tastes good, but that ain't what we're talking about. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Errol Doe says, I work around so many brilliant people in tech and some of them believe the silliest scams and wee-woo things. Yeah. A hundred percent. Oh no. Everyone's like piping up with their stuff. Magnetic Flux. My grandma thinks vegan burgers make people gay. No, no, no. Oh, see, that's correlation, not causation. No, I'm... This is joke. Is joke. I love me a good vegan burger. Wait! Oh, no, this is my mouse! Wait a minute.
1:35:10It turns the freaking YouTuber skin.
1:35:20oh man apparently there's an xkcd for this of course there is i think there is for everything
1:35:31um oh okay no it's not that good i've normal to be clear love xkcd uh i didn't personally appreciate that one that much all right i guess we'll do another topic oh yeah right you were going to do the thing wait sorry i'm doing what thing the topic which oh yeah by june 30th developers in the u.s uk and the european economic area okay uh we'll see the stand we'll see the standard 30 in-app purchases fee on the google play store drop to 20 for the first time for first-time installs of apps after the new fees launch. Recurring subscription service fees will drop to 10%. Furthermore, Google is introducing a new business model intended to decouple the fees by separating the cost of their billing system from the service fee.
1:36:28Developers that opt into Google Play's billing system in the US, UK, or Europe will have to fork over an additional 5%. However, mobile developers will officially have the option to use their own billing system alongside or in place of Google's. Enrolling into Google's new Apps Experience program will drop the service fee to 15 % for new installs. The rollout will gradually hit Australia, Japan, and Korea by the end of the year and the rest of the world late 2027. Apart from cutting fees, Google is also launching a registered app store program thing that will streamline the process for third-party app stores like Epic Games as long as they meet certain quality benchmarks.
1:37:12So it's an app store for app stores. Hold on a minute. No, no, no, no, no. It's not a store for app stores, but you can have an app store as long as you meet quality benchmarks. so you'll you'll work with google to have like an epic games app store on on android okay sure i don't know what i think about that but all right uh more topics i guess maybe well i mean i never mind i can can we it's full planning sponsors can we shout out what can we shout out a guy who I don't always agree with, but who I got a shout out here. Who else would have had the balls to go toe to toe with Apple and Google and force this change?
1:37:59But Epic Games is Tim Sweeney. I, oh man, this is another one of those ones where at the time I took a ton of flack for just being like, yeah, obviously the App Store and the Play Store are a huge antitrust problem. And the fact that people are pretending they can't see it is just corporate bootlickery of the highest order. And especially Apple people were like, we don't want the App Store to be, we like the iPhone the way it is. We love the taste of leather. It's so good. And other things. yeah no this was it was like just they do a vegetable and bean burgers it was it was it was a it was definitely a thing and and and courts and and google and apple all know everybody knows it was just a matter of time until you could figure it out and uh this is great i'm um i'm i'm Very, very, very excited.
1:39:08Eraldo says, I refuse to accept the hypocrisy of simping for Steam. That's the thing. And again, this is just like, you need to read more. Steam has things about it that, where Valve leverages their quite dominant position, but they are not in fact a monopoly because they just like aren't because you're not bound to use steam in any way you can go on gog you can go on epic games you can go anywhere you want and you can download a game for any platform where you can also get that game on steam it is and steam unlike the App Store and the Google Play Store is not owned by the platform owner. That's why it just isn't the same thing at all.
1:40:06And I'm sorry, but I can't be the one to explain it to you. You're going to have to go and just learn more about monopolistic behavior and anti-competitive laws and stuff. Cool. Shall we do the floor plan announcement? Yeah, sure. Sponsors?
1:40:28uh yeah flow plane announcement let's do it where is it we all have an embarrassing tech story or two so riley sought out some embarrassing moments from members of the lmg team it features elijah who admitted to a crime adam who blew out his partner's ears with music that was too loud and James, who bought a laptop that cost$2 ,300 at the time just to play Team Fortress 2. That's a yikes. But where is David, you might ask? No one ever asks, how is David? Oh, okay, I did the delivery on that totally wrong. Anyway, his setup from five years ago. The point is, David showcased his setup and how much it's changed from his original ultimate tech upgrade.
1:41:26He's got his man cave upgrade in there and shows what it looks like today. Also, if you are from Brazil or think Brazil is cool or you don't understand tariffs and you want to understand tariffs better and how they can be like really bad for consumers, you might want to check out the early release. Luke, are you showing any of this? Yeah, we're doing it. Keep going. Oh, yeah, there you go. Tariffs, tariffs, tariffs. all of this and more at lmg.gg fp wan cool
1:42:02now for some sponsors hold on hold on give me a second Lozer says Linus Valve and Steam is creating that environment with SteamOS with the ownership of the platform and the thing you're trying so hard to make this a thing but it still isn't because steam os still totally supports other app stores with valve taking absolutely count them zero dollars and having zero involvement in that transaction so it's still completely not the same thing I'm sorry but no amount of trying to make Steam the same thing as the App Store and the Google Play Store is going to make it the same thing because it's just not the same thing and it's just not going to work Steam could be compared to one of the App Stores that is now allowed to potentially be on there Yep, totally and if one of them had an extremely dominant position that enabled them to do certain things that could be anti-competitive then we could draw a parallel there because valve does have an opportunity to do certain things that can be anti-competitive but one of those things is not the thing that tim sweeney was complaining about with the app store and ios and the tight integration and control over transactions and payments and the availability of apps for the platform they're just not the same thing magic cheeseburger says i agree with you it's not about agreement it's about like this is a fact that it just is a thing i'm gonna have a nap
1:43:45but if you delete steam if you leave steam you lose all your games forever yes yes you do but that is nothing to do with what we're talking about cool dude all right oh man i don't know do you know i think part of it luke i think one of the big challenges we have is that you and i watch every wanshow and most viewers don't so all i don't watch every wanshow well no i just read the comments there for it though oh my god so so we end up in this situation why are you so why are you so down on linux and you never criticize windows and it's like she's like so previous could literally be you know windows is cooked you know yeah i complain about it all the time their own exposure bias is that all they see and hear is the thing that's making them emotional right now yeah it's like guys we criticize steam and valve all the time windows is becoming like very very rapidly terrible i i had this whole thing where like i was getting really nostalgic about old windows actually i was thinking back to like how much i just really enjoyed using windows xp and i know people go if you go back now it's it's terrible it's like yeah that's cool for the time it was amazing and then you look at vista it was based and it's like a lot of people have terrible memories of vista because they bought a laptop from best buy with 512 megs of RAM and try to run Vista on it.
1:45:24And that was terrible. Terrible, terrible, terrible. But when I had some better hardware, and especially when I had a custom version of Vista, dude, Vista Black Edition was so sick. It was amazing. I loved using Vista, especially late in the game when I had better hardware, and especially a custom version, but I still really actually liked using Vista. Arrow looked amazing. It just couldn't run under crappy laptop. And then 7 came out, and 7 was amazing. again people keep talking about this like oh it's good and then bad and then good and bad in my opinion not really it was kind of just good and then the hardware wasn't ready and then good um like vista was actually fantastic like printers printer compatibility on vista was a nightmare yeah um then then we get eight and eight out of the gate was to use the young people's probably out of date term by this point, dog water.
1:46:20But, 8.1 came out, and with a little time, with a little bit of time in the marinade, 8.1 was actually really solid. Especially if you got the Windows 9 thing, and got the custom version, all that kind of stuff. Fantastic. And then we hit Windows 10, and it was like, ooh, now, now, it's still edible, but something's wrong with it. I don't necessarily know what it is. It's still Windows. all my stuff still kind of works you left the sticker on when you were eating yeah like something's just okay and then windows 11 came out and then it was like okay no like this for sure still works but is clearly bad for me like something something is not good have they fixed 11 yet i am being food poisoned um and then i think with looking at 12 on the horizon like it's just we were doing this thing right where like they'd stumble a little like amazing launch maybe a little bit of a stumble because of a hardware but then amazing uh just amazing and then really troublesome launch but then they totally fixed it and then now we're just literally just doing this and it feels terrible and you can jump off the ship early and maybe have some troubles trying to learn linux um and maybe come back to windows who knows but gain a little bit of familiarity or you can jump off later when it's like just death or or i don't know or microsoft will maybe but i doubt it actually listen to some people and stop just doing this with their operating system which by god i will volunteer i expect that's nothing you never even have to admit that i helped you i require no compensation i will tell you all of the things you need to do to make it not garbage anymore no problem i am yours to be resourced uh but you won't do it down you know what yeah linus will come with me we'll figure it out and if you want windows 12 to be like the ai operating system i think this is still possible you can still accomplish that goal and still make it not complete crap i i like you can do it i i don't believe you're going to but you totally i know a lot of people i know a lot of people are are are are just sort of like reflexively against anything that has ai of any sort involved in it i'm not i i actually agree with you that windows 12 could be could have could have ai as a central part of the experience and all they need to do to make that palatable to everyone who doesn't want it i bet you were gonna say the same thing make it so i can remove it yep done it's be able to turn it off be able to remove it make it modular so i could plug my own in make it so i could make it have it so that make it so the first time i press the co-pilot button it goes hey i'm co-pilot do you want me to rebind this button to something else right now i do this what an idea do you want it it can also do this other thing or like i like i would i would love it if they built these systems where it can work with your computer in really good ways and then i could be like right but i don't want it phoning home to microsoft all the time and literally screen recording everything i do and putting in your server farm just for someone else to steal it so i would like to use my own resources run some stuff locally and then be able to just plug my own thing in and it still has those capabilities that would be awesome you could make a really really cool windows 12 i don't believe you're going to so i'm trying to jump off the ship early but man i will help you for free i will put in time i'll put in hours you don't have to tell anyone you don't have to compensate me please it's too bad because they are doing some stuff that is pretty cool um i i left my i left my rog ally uh on our last trip i'm getting it back i did find it so that's cool but on our trip down to zero trust world i left my ally so i i grabbed a handheld to bring on this trip and um ultimately didn't end up needing it.
1:50:26Like I said, Linux challenge, and I'm using my laptop for gaming right now. But it had the new gaming-optimized Windows on it, and it's pretty cool. The Xbox interface on the ROG Ally X Series X, or whatever the stupid thing is called, it's legitimately pretty cool, and the RAM usage is way lower. Microsoft is putting in work. They're optimizing stuff. They just have to not be at the same time Breaking things and moving the user experience backwards like dude You were talking about the CPU usage issues that you're having over there right now, right? Yeah, okay Do you want to know what my CPU usage is right now?
1:51:14Yeah, what? it's hovering between about three and a half to Four and a half five percent. What's your memory? And that's with everything I'm doing right now. So I have the live stream running. I have the chat open. I have the separate window where I have the call running. I have that app for my phone capture. So I have Wi-Fi up the butt because I'm also, I couldn't get the wired connection working for my phone as my webcam. So I have all that data streaming in. and I'm sitting at a handful of percent. Now, I do have a lot of RAM use, but I think that's just because when Asus sent this laptop to me, they sent me like a fully loaded version, which is honestly crazy given the current situation.
1:52:08I have 128 gigs of RAM in this machine, so I'm using 12 gigs of RAM. But when I look at my applications, I am sitting at a total of under 2 gigs, So I think that's probably just the OS just caching everything. So mine, I have Chrome open with admittedly three Flowplane tabs, one Google Sheet, one Google Search, the Steam Hardware Survey, and the LTT Store. I have one notepad open with one page on it, and I have the Task Manager open, and that's it. I'm hovering between 15 and 20 % CPU usage. I'm at 52 % memory usage and usually around 5 to 10 % disk because the windows module installer worker is still just ripping.
1:53:03It hasn't, it hasn't stopped once. It's still the number one process. It has constantly been the number one process. The next one is like a windows event log that just, that just went down. It kind of jumps up and down all the time. and now I talked about this when we recorded this before the show we do have Sentinel 1 running we do have Ninja RMM running those are in there those are never like the number 1 through 5 but they are floating around so it's like there is some stuff that we installed running in the background but on my Linux desktop back at home there are things running I have stuff I have been using it as a desktop for a while this happens when you have a system you know it's just I mean like chrome is like usually like 5 to 8 in the top processes like this and this thing it's mostly calmed down now before on camera without touching it we saw it spike to like 75 % CPU usage and it wasn't central one or any of those other things I mean threat lockers also on here it's just not showing up in like a highly like a super heavy process compared to these other ones right now um comparatively like recall is recall is part of it oh god the recall preview the recall preview it probably sneaked its way back in yeah i neutered those before i deployed them you can see i'm sure dan can see it on my screen now recall sitting right there i'm looking at mine i'm sitting at 50 cpu usage with a cool 42 gigs of memory usage yeah but you're well yeah but you're handling this.
1:54:40I'm so much better than you guys. That's not fair. My Ferrari is so much faster than your bicycle. I'm just a better person. Yeah. All right. I think we're supposed to do sponsors now. I can't believe recalls there. I know that Dan killed it too. It must have snuck its way back in. This is like, this is what I'm talking about, dude. Get out of here. I'm going to do another pass and rip out more of its brain. The recall preview. I learned how to neuter Windows 11, so I'm a little happier with it now. Did I restore your right-click menus on the desktop? I can't remember if I did that on those ones or not.
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1:58:27Okay. Let's get some more topics. What is going on here, people? No, I want to know what's going on. The chat's going... Pocopia? Did I say it wrong? No, no. Is it Pocopia? No, no. It was an image on screen. Don't worry about it too much. I did notice based factory meals, a lot of them were chicken, some simple carb like rice, and then a vegetable. Look, they don't need to reinvent the wheel here, Luke.
1:59:02yes success chicken don't forget your flat meat there was like three or four different ones and i was like yeah flat meat is critical there was like the chicken rice and asparagus there was like the chicken uh i think it was like rice and corn and some type of broccoli or something and it's just like chicken simple carb plus green yes very good alright should we talk about Linux hacked onto a PS5 effectively turning Sony's console into a steam machine security engineer Andy Nguyen successfully ported Linux to a PS5 Slim by bypassing Sony's hypervisor using an exploit called by-pervisor which has got to be the best name of an exploit I've heard in like so long and by-provisor is so good.
1:59:57It grants kernel-level control and allows unsigned code to run. The hack required firmware version 1.0 to 2.0, though, which is about five years old, so if you've been keeping your PlayStation up to date, this isn't really going to be a thing for you. However, once he got it running, it was kind of awesome. The modded console could run GTA V Enhanced Edition via Steam at 1440p 60fps with ray tracing enabled, and, because it's a PS5, supports 4K HDMI output, audio, and even had all the USB ports running. The CPU runs at 3.2 GHz and GPU at 2 GHz with boost capabilities, although it did start overheating at higher clock speeds.
2:00:38Sony actually used to allow something similar on the PlayStation. My notes say the PS3 had the other OS feature, and if you go back even farther, you could just get a Linux disk that you could put in your PlayStation and run Linux on it. uh when we did our i bought every playstation video we actually showed it um but they don't allow it anymore but apparently nothing would prevent it and it would honestly in my humble opinion luke be the best solution right now for game really really cool considering you can run ps5 games it's so sick i used yeah i used ps5 that could dual boot sony's playstation operating system and linux to just like run steam would be the goat gaming machine for that price like killer super super super cool our discussion question here is with sony rumored to be pulling back from PC releases, does a hack like this hint at a future where console hardware could be repurposed as a PC as the lines between PCs and consoles keep blurring?
2:01:52Unfortunately, I don't think so. I think the Sony rumor that they're pulling back from PC releases, if anything, indicates that Sony wants to draw clearer lines between their consoles and general purpose software PCs in the lead up to the release of the PlayStation 6. I think they are recognizing that later in the console's life cycle, it's very beneficial to take that software and tap into a market with it and sell a bunch of, you know, Spider-Man to PC gamers. But if you want to move the machine, if you want to create the install base, you got to have exclusives. And I remember talking about this back with the original steam machine where i was like yeah i understand valves like good guy philosophy where they don't want to have exclusivity you know you know locked games for the steam machine and they want to be open but at the end of the day games move consoles it's that simple and i think sony is either recognizing or this was the plan the whole time that when they launch a new generation, there is absolutely no way that they are going to be a success without exclusive titles.
2:03:12It's just not going to happen. Man, Microsoft, they're losing consoles. I think people are genuinely getting just a little too over it when it comes to operating systems. I don't think we're quite there yet, but there are actually, it does seem to be a lot more people that I've been hearing from actually genuinely switching over to Linux lately. Like normie people that are mad about it. Sorry, I thought you were going to say that are fed up with it. No, yeah. I know people that used a Steam Deck and were just like, wait, this is fine. And just actually replaced their computers with Steam Decks.
2:03:53And don't even think of it as like, I'm running Linux. They're just like, yeah, I use a Steam Deck and it's fine. I don't even know if they're really fully understanding what that means. It's SteamOS, but that's the thing. Linux is not a distro. Linux is not an operating system. I think SteamOS is going to be the one. Azure is running Linux. Copilot is kind of open AI powered. What are they... It's like the office company now. yeah yeah the worst chat program i guess but like honestly this is what what have you had to do anything i'm assuming yeah have you have you had to do anything with like documentation so far on linux what have you been using libra only office what have you been using have you used any of it i just use google docs google docs yeah okay i had to assign some pdfs recently and uh i i went with only office just to give it a shot and it was really easy and totally fine right did you have to pay like like five bucks for a picture nothing it's feed or like it also i thought this was kind of funny there's definitely more things when you download office 365 i feel like i didn't hear something um uh that's okay everyone else got it there's there's definitely more things that you're downloading when you download office 365 but only office downloaded fast and it like takes a while to download office 365 and you have to jump through a bunch of login hoops and do all these different types of things and like i was probably done signing my first document before i would have been done installing office um yeah oh you have to i remember for years it was a pain in the butt to even find the download link for office 365 because they had it behind a login and then you would download it then you'd have to log in anyway i don't know if adobe has fixed with Creative Cloud, but they had a really similar situation where getting the Creative Cloud application download link involved logging in, and then you'd have to log in again once you got it.
2:05:58It's like, what is the downside of just letting me download this thing, and then I'll log in once I get it? Yeah.
2:06:07But yeah, it was a pretty great experience. So, just wanted to throw that out there. But yeah, Microsoft, stop taking L's, bruh. I liked it when you were cool. I really, God, this whole Linux thing has been fun. I would really love to enjoy Windows again. It would be so cool. That's something that I think a lot of people miss in all of our takes on basically everything is that we are not pro one side. One side, sorry. We are pro competition. Is this going to the viewers? can they see this mouse cursor what what there's a mouse oh that's my mouse cursor are you hallucinating a mouse cursor no there's a mouse i'm sorry it was on the wrong screen can they even see that no that's that's my fourth monitor oh so it's just for me okay i'll just keep it there anyway we are we're pro competition competition between windows and linux and mac os and competition between Android and iPhone and competition between Xbox and PlayStation.
2:07:13So you're going to see us like, like I've seen people who are like, oh, Linus always flip-flops anyway. And you know, he's not consistent. Yeah, I'm not consistent. We're trying to support underdogs. Because in a time when NVIDIA is so dominant in GPUs, for instance, you're going to hear me say, hey, like, Intel is doing some really cool stuff over there right now. And it's really important that we acknowledge that because we need competition. And in the same way, you know, even though I might say that from a day to day use perspective, there's a lot of aspects of the Linux experience that are not working too great for me, you're still going to hear me talk about how the Microsoft dominance in the operating system space has to be challenged, because otherwise we end up with what we've got now a monopoly always in crapifies always every single time it will turn to crap eventually because competition puts pressure on us to do better and so you're always going to hear that from us yeah yeah speaking of which live nation ticket master agreed to settle a federal antitrust lawsuit with the department of justice uh and And apparently they won't be broken up.
2:08:29The DOJ reached a surprise settlement with Live Nation just one week into its landmark antitrust trial, allowing the company to keep Ticketmaster without admitting any wrongdoing. The deal caps service fees at 15 % at Live Nation Menus. Bars Ticketmaster from requiring exclusive contracts with large amphitheaters and requires all acquisitions to be submitted to the DOJ for approval regardless of size. Wow, okay. The middle one is actually not that. That helps a lot. The exclusive contracts one? Yeah. The whole exclusive contracts thing. However, in my humble opinion, that's not enough. Carry on.
2:09:14Yeah, not at all. The settlement blindsided state attorneys general. More than 25 states and D.C. say they're continuing the trial anyway. The presiding judge called the process entirely unacceptable after it emerged. The DOJ and Live Nation had already signed a what? Had already signed a preliminary agreement on Thursday without notifying the states, giving them only 24 hours to decide whether to join. SeatGeek called it incredibly disappointing. Senator Amy Klobuchar said breaking up the company is the only real fix and rival promoters say 16 years of surface level remedies haven't worked. The settlement still needs final court approval.
2:10:05With more than half the states rejecting the deal and continuing the trial, does a settlement that lets Live Nation keep Ticketmaster actually solve anything? the current doj is i look i'm not american so take this for all it is but the current doj appears to be an enormous problem for people who want things like this which are important things that that impact everyday people lots of people um seems to be a massive massive problem my friends call me they're like wow that's so many people it is it is so many people i mean if you buy a ticket for basically freaking anything you have to deal with ticket master and the um the clearly back alley deal that was done to reach this settlement um is just so clear that it should be a wake-up call to anyone who's not certain how clear this was that it was very clear that this was a back alley corrupt deal and charcoal onion says but have you seen the dow
2:11:16dude yeah exactly exactly the dow though dow but the dow it's it is so fascinating watching politicians and billionaires talk about the stock market as though it matters to what what percentage is it of uh of even people in in affluent countries like even in north america what percentage is it of people who actually own stocks i know that a lot of people will have part of their retirement um invested in uh invested in stocks but in terms of like actual like having a personal portfolio my understanding is it is the the investment class is shockingly small i know the i think it's the top one percent own 50 of the entire stock market um yeah nokie says 62 of u.s adults own stocks apparently but that includes that's the thing hold on hold on yeah how much though like we've got people in chat that are like yeah i own i own four grand in stocks i own i own like a couple grand in stocks when the when the stock market goes up you know 10 it's like you made four hundred dollars which is like yeah okay great as long as uh you know inflation isn't going wild and that's not just you know treading water but like in terms of people who own like significant value of stocks like i remember i remember reading that it's like it's like shockingly small um i don't know the exact numbers eraldo says it's something like the wealthiest 10 own 87 to 93 percent of the actual like dollar value of the stocks though it's like okay cool oh yeah i'm not uh not much of a stock guy i do feel i honestly i feel like i've like missed out over this incredible like what is it like a 20 year bull run or something like that at this point business insider in 2024 said that the wealthiest 10 of americans own 93 of stocks even with market participation at a record high cool but the dow's pretty freaking sick dude let's let the oh man nah i'm gonna lose it i need to in through the mouth out through the nose
2:13:50what can we talk about don't worry though about that because the the dock just moved don't worry about that because the steam machine is coming even with rising d-ram prices around the world and a slight delay in the steam machine release valve posted a blog post that the steam machine steam frame and steam controller would all arrive in 2026 on that train. Our goal of shipping all three products in the first half of the year, this is a quote has not changed, but we have work to do to land on concrete pricing and launch dates. They did also skate in the blog post that if you have a line on a bunch of Ram, we are in the market and would like to buy, which is, you know, probably a joke, but still maybe someone will.
2:14:40uh discussion question going back to the original discussion about steam machine and the price it would hit it would have to hit do you think your original guesses about price would make this more appealing to people now that dram prices have affected things so much uh yeah i feel like it kind of has to be yes because it is more appealing yeah because relative things won't be accurate it's gonna go up yeah uh but then again i okay i guess a little higher though i wonder here's where i get a little confused though on the one hand yeah d-ram pricing has gone bananas and so has nand flash but then on the other hand apple just released a 600 laptop that from my understanding it is like trivially easy to get an educational discount on and is 499 with the educational discount yeah it's only got eight gigs of ram sure but but still like price competitive products are clearly still able to be released still possible so and but then again i i was there you go i was talking to the writers about this and someone was like how are they doing this and my guess is that apple locked in their contract for this stuff like two years ago because they operate on a time scale and and a general scale that they have the other companies they have the bank to do that kind of stuff um and on top of that speaking of that macbook neo co-ceo of asus flippin loves it and is also pretty scared of it asus co-ceo um who sue that's why sue sue oh i was just trying to do the last name yeah that's why sue uh called the apple's 599 macbook neo or 499 if you're clever uh a shock to the entire pc industry which honestly yeah saying apple has never competed at this price point before uh sue said all major pc players, Microsoft, Intel, and AMD are actively discussing how to respond to the MacBook Neo threat.
2:16:50And they probably should be, to be completely honest. Despite this, he attempted to downplay the Neo's appeal, pointing to his eight gigabytes of non-upgradable unified memory and calling it more of a content consumption device, similar to an iPad, also known as what almost everyone uses their laptops for. The Verge's, he didn't include that part, I put that in there. The Verge's review also flagged slow SSD speeds as another notable limitation alongside the RAM cap. Again, it's$600. That said, most outlets are reviewing the device quite positively, and demand from the market is notable. And I'm not surprised.
2:17:29That's amazing, dude. What a crazy piece of hardware. our discussion question is do you agree with Sue's assessment that the Neo is just a content consumption device or is that maybe just a cope I actually do mostly agree but I don't think it's the gotcha that maybe he hopes that it is because to Luke's point the vast majority of what people are doing on their laptop is content consumption if you bought a MacBook air what were you doing with it yeah yeah content consumption maybe maybe you did some garage band for fun i'm sure that still works i wouldn't be surprised if you can do some not super crazy final cut oh sue who sue is pronounced shoe shoe okay you mellow geek i thought something might have been wrong sorry about that i thought it was sue anyway shoe um also i think this is just the first volley apple never no matter how catastrophically a product performs apple never launches just one okay no i shouldn't say never there might be an example at some point but like even vision pro okay got yeah i got a follow-up people are trying to gotcha me with the vision pro got a new model yeah okay newton the pippin the pippin yeah where's our pippin yeah we lost our pippin we don't know where it is i um yeah if spanky 2k says even the weird hi-fi thing led to the home pod yep like they apple doesn't release a product in a vacuum they release a product with a freaking roadmap with a freaking plan okay the trash can poke brick yeah the trash can was kind of a disaster not in a long time though okay it's been a long time still i'm still standing it was just a different form factor for their desktop product line though it was but it was also kind of a dead end in terms of the paradigm the paradigm of the mac pro as this like kind of locked down no expansion cards yeah but like the mac pro existed before that i understand what you're saying i i see the logic but i don't think it 100 fits i see that in both ways i see that in both yeah yeah yeah for sure the point that i'm getting at the point i'm getting at here is the macbook neo is almost certainly the first in a line of macbook neos and i guarantee you that if they didn't have the limitation of only 8 gigs of RAM on top of the package for the A18 processor, that they would have at least considered allowing you to pay for a memory upgrade.
2:20:27I mean, Apple loves having people pay for a memory upgrade or a storage upgrade. Now, they didn't go far in terms of the storage upgrades that are available on it. That does tend to be a way that Apple differentiates their top models. So for instance, the latest iPhone, you have to buy the Pro if you want to get, I believe, is it two terabytes or four terabytes of storage? Whatever it is, whatever the top storage configuration it is, you have to get a Pro. And I would expect them to not offer a MacBook Neo with 200 gigs of memory and freaking four terabytes of storage or whatever. That is a differentiating point for them.
2:21:05But I would be shocked if the next one doesn't allow 12 gigs or 16 gigs as we make our way through subsequent releases. And with the way that software optimization is going right now, 16 gigs of DDR4 was like good and a lot. And 16 gigs of DDR5 is pretty good and a lot. And if you think about it, it's actually been quite a while since we've really needed more than 8 to 16 gigs. You know what I mean? It's mostly been websites, but you can just close tabs. Yeah. It's just a little bit of convenience. It's not so much capability that much for most users. Exactly. And so if we see an A19 Pro chip with 12 gigs of RAM in a next gen, man, that thing is going to be killer.
2:22:04It's just going to be killer. It's going to destroy the budget Windows machine market. Like Apple is, dude, Apple is freaking, they're out for blood. Like it's like they want market share for a change. The Mac mini is already like the computer to buy. Distro devs on the Linux side seem to be hungry. And Apple seems to be hungry. and I'm very happy because Microsoft needs some people chomping at them um Microsoft can be great again I I believe in a positive future for Microsoft I just they have to get focused they have to get focused man oh my god they're going to Luke when not soon like eight or nine percent of their business it's less than 10 percent of their business I just don't think they're paying attention they're not focused on it I mean And they went and they put that AI exec in charge of Xbox.
2:23:00Like, what are they? Yeah, but if you start losing Windows, Windows is a part of, you're talking revenue. And for sure. But I think if you start losing Windows, you start losing 365 subscriptions. Oh, you're 100 % right. Like, I think it's, I think it's this, it's their infrastructure department kind of that happens to make money. I'm talking about the dangerous path path that they could be heading down. Oh, totally. If they manage their business based on counting beans. Yeah. You've got so many beans, dude. You've got so many beans coming in. Your bean income seems to be pretty good. You should probably work on making it so that the thing that supports all your incoming beans is a little bit better.
2:23:47Just let... Okay, honestly, I'm going to use that argument, the like it's 8 % or whatever. Just make it awesome whatever get the stupid ads out and stuff and just make it really good and go back to the whole just everyone uses windows therefore microsoft wins by default thing that worked for you so well and just make money off azure and make money off office 365 business subscriptions whatever because every single freaking person in the world is using uh windows because everyone has these cheap laptops because if you don't do that everyone's just gonna get macbooks because for a business, businesses aren't going to do the student discount thing.
2:24:26For a business, there's$600. And if they run pretty good, a lot of users would love to have MacBooks.
2:24:35Anyways. We're reviewing right now our subscription software at work. And we've been running into the like, okay, well, it's incredibly uncomfortable, but we're probably going to have to make a choice finally between Google Workspace and Microsoft. And there's a lot of pushback in each direction. I think if I could speak for them, most of the IT team kind of wants to lean towards the Microsoft route. I think from an IT perspective, it's easier and better for them. I viciously hate teams. Sorry? Could we be ditching teams? Are we talking about ditching teams? We're talking about ditching something.
2:25:20either google workspace or office 365 which includes teams um because each one of these are massive very expensive contracts i'm trying to save you tons of money is ultimately what's going on oh i'm i'm very aware yeah so we're trying to figure out one of them if we ditch 365 the like popular tech bro route is to use slack and google workspace but slack is so expensive intensive yeah which sucks and people are saying matter most just you know you can talk to each other if you want um it's so it's it's it's this thing but there is the curveball i didn't i said i didn't believe them i didn't believe them for years i said on when i didn't believe them i was at google and saw people's laptops they actually use chat they actually just use google chat are we gonna go full circle and go back to so it's we're trying to figure out we're trying to figure out do we go to chat and hangouts do we go to chat and hangouts and google workspace keeping our like insane pile of things that are in google drive yeah yeah so do we honestly even though i hate teams honestly probably sacrifice in the chat department yeah and still have to have some people like the accounting teams they're still going to need stripped down licenses for Microsoft so they can have things like Excel they just need Excel Excel is just the best at what it does I dog on a ton of Microsoft things but local desktop Excel is just unassailable as far as I can tell at this point so they just need Excel some of the teams might need Excel people that need Excel will have a license that gets them Excel but we don't mess around with too much other stuff or do we go the other route and keep teams yeah but have to migrate all of this stuff out of Google Drive.
2:27:12You're gonna have to pry my Google Docs from my cold dead hands. See, this is the thing, is for people like you, I think it would be easier to go the Google route, but for other people it would be easier to go the other route and
2:27:30it's rough because both of these companies their subscriptions are going whoop because they're trying to bundle AI stuff and make it so you can't really get out of those contracts that include AI. they're just starting to include ai by default and then cranking the price because of it and like all this crap is getting really expensive um also i think because there was like some unlimited data loophole thing or something but back in the day you guys signed up for a pricey google workspace subscription um so there is a way that we could actually like half basically the google workspace subscription and that was because we were using it for cloud backup and then nobody else canceled it i guess yep uh so we were probably just gonna for one video that was it's we think that it's still there uh so we're we're very likely gonna drop there's other things we would lose though like that way that we figured out that email issue that you had we would like lose that um so there there are things but we've only ever used that twice there was one for a document security thing a while ago that you are aware of that i'm not have needed that tier for and there was uh your email thing those are like the only two things i can remember that's pretty good though it is but those are the only two times we've ever really used it and it's like 30k a year or something so jebus you might you might want to just drop it um and i'm not gonna lie we do need to we do need to look at our expenses i mean i've been yeah i think I've been very, very clear internally and talking to the audience on WAN Show that we don't operate in the same environment that we used to.
2:29:13And we're going to have to find some efficiency. I don't know if you saw this, Luke. Probably not because you don't stare at the views dashboard as obsessively as I do. But over the last little while, the last week or so, we've had quite a few releases closer to our old daily cadence. and a handful of them actually performed quite well and the channel was just going. And then we had one day that we didn't upload and the overnight dip, which was something that I would look at traditionally in order to determine what the background viewership is, aside from your new release, like your hottest new video, dipped below what it was before we had a bunch of good performing videos over the last little while.
2:30:00So the just like background VOD viewership of the library of content that we've produced over the years is just going down as people's interest in the tech hobby wanes. And we can see this with like Google. What's the search relevancy tool again? We're asking if his feed is like, I think that's just him being there's like there's like half a second of there and back time. he's literally across the planet it's i've been pretty happy with the stream so far sorry i keep going yeah doing our best um and also as youtube uh emphasizes shorts more and more and more it's just uh the the back catalog and the competition increases for for people's eyeballs uh those those back catalog videos are just not getting any views anymore uh oh wow no i'm getting like really choppy now oh it'll self-explain anyway the point is that we're gonna have to find some we're gonna have to find some efficiency thankfully we are pretty well diversified we you know we have the creator warehouse uh ltd store team oh oh good lord is my voice okay at least getting some robot but your voice is fine okay cool that's great um so yeah if we could lose one of these subscriptions i would find it extremely hilarious if we ultimately went full circle back to freaking uh hangouts whatever they call it now yeah i don't know what we're going to do we we are probably going to do that subscription reduction thing but we need to really figure out all the different levels of impact and then make sure that people are okay with us you know not actually having certain levels of tools um but it would save a ton of money so it's probably worth it but we need to figure that out still and then after that that seems like just we should definitely aj identified that and we should just like definitely look into that first but then we have basically until the end of the year because there are such massive penalties to early cancellation um we have basically till the end of the year to figure this out and when aj pointed out like look the cancellation early cancellation fees are so bad there's basically no point in doing so um and the contract renewals are basically at the end of the year it was like okay we have some time because this is going to be insane and painful no matter what route we go it will be bad there is no like this is going to be a hard sell internally because there is no route without pain but it will be a massive reduction in cost no matter what direction we go so we're going to kind of need a direction youtube and going in the direction of more and more shorts all the time uh they clearly aren't going to change course anytime soon because it turns out youtube makes more money from ads than disney paramount and warner bros combined according According to research firm Moffitt Nathanson, YouTube earned$40.4 billion in ad revenue, while Disney, NBC, Paramount, and Warner Bros earned$36.1 billion combined.
2:33:15Parent company Alphabet confirmed last month that in 2025, YouTube generated$60 billion with a B in revenue, which still trails behind Meta, which generated$196.2 billion in ad revenue. This isn't Google versus Meta, though. to youtube yeah yeah not all of alphabet that is pretty freaking incredible and i think one of the most recent insights we've gotten into exactly how youtube is doing um revenue wise uh the female audience says hey wait a minute linus doesn't paramount own warner brothers now that that is still happening that's still pending uh but but yes the the offer is in and i is functionally accepted, but they are still operating today as separate companies until such time as the acquisition is complete.
2:34:14So, yeah. I still have... My only question for... There we go. Oh, am I gone? No, no, you're back. Cool. Okay, my only question for YouTube is, when will it be enough? And can you stop in Goopifying the service? because I heard they just added 30 second unskippable ads to TVs. Will 30 seconds be enough for you? Are we just going to go all the way back to cable TV with like three minute ad breaks? Can we not? Please? Can we just not? Honestly, the AI slop content is getting to be too much. We were talking before the show about how Theo Joe, which might have been a joke, might not have been, but Theo Joe posted on Twitter about like, bro, I'm done.
2:34:59it's like too much i don't want to compete with like actual just junk and i run into it on the platform decently often compete with junk i'd go on only fans yeah i mean we should put our put our stuff up on the hub where's my ding dan we got to bring that project back we got to put our videos on the hub um but uh yeah it's there's so much of it it's crazy um i don't know yeah this is another tweet from theo joe uh nokie just posted this in chat i really think youtube is going to be overwhelmed with garbage slop within a few years to the point where it will no longer be usable and this comes back to the conversation i have with youtube every time I can get in a room with them.
2:35:48And I may have an opportunity to chat with some execs in the near future here. And I'm going to bring it up again. It's like, look, you guys need to decide what you want to be. You can be TikTok, you can be Facebook and Instagram and just full of AI crap garbage, short form dopamine hit, move on to the next dopamine hit crap. Or you can take a bit of a hit now and in the long term keep your soul keep your identity be YouTube because and I'll just I'm gonna be really honest with them with the way things are trending right now LTT in its current form may not be viable in the medium future it just may no longer be viable like we upload relatively few shorts but But I can tell in our analytics what they're pushing and what they're not.
2:36:47And YouTube's response to this kind of thing is always, well, we're giving the audience what they want. It's like, yeah, kind of. But also not. Also, you guys control how prominent the short shelf is. You actually decide that. And yeah, people click on it because you're the dealer and they want another hit. but you can be part of breaking the cycle. You can be part of making YouTube an app that I don't feel icky about opening, that I don't feel guilty about using. You can feed me high quality content that makes me feel enriched after I'm done consuming it. Don't just, like, it's like, be a good parent, right?
2:37:37Like, obviously, my kids would eat more if I gave them candy at every opportunity, right? They'd eat so much. I could have the kids that eat the most. Good for me. But what if there was a goal beyond that? What if I wanted them to be healthy? What if I wanted them to reach adulthood and go, thanks, Dad. I didn't always love my vegetables. Yeah. I didn't always love what you... And still use it because of that. Yeah. And sometimes, sometimes I didn't do what you said. and I went on TikTok and I ate candy. But I understand why you were trying to feed me something different. Thank you. You know, maybe you could have that attitude.
2:38:16I'm starting to lose hope though. Speaking of in crapification, let's talk about Hisense. Oh my God. Sammy just told me something I didn't know. If you watch a lot of shorts on YouTube, the app defaults to a short when you open the app. That is unhinged.
2:38:38I didn't know that. It kind of makes sense, though. I don't even have the app installed anymore. And see, it shouldn't come to that, dude. It should not come to that. It should come to either of these things. I got so tired of shorts that I actually uninstalled the app, and I watch YouTube on my phone through a browser now. Noki says not even that. If your last watched video is a short, It will just launch a short. Whoa. This is nuts. Yeah. Yeah.
2:39:20Okay, well, another encrapification news. Owners of Hisense TVs in Spain and Britain have reported unskippable ads appearing during basic functions like powering on their TVs, switching inputs, navigating to the home screen, or changing channels. Reports of intrusive ads on Hisense TVs have been growing since 2022, Tom's Hardware reports, and have escalated from small tile ads to unskippable videos. We've got links to some reddit posts showing incidents um i won't be able to screen share luke do you want to fire one of those up so i was reading something else for a second which one is this hisense uh tvs i'll show us one of the examples yeah uh while you're finding it the ads began appearing after purchase on sets with hisense recently rebranded home os formerly vida an os that is licensed by other manufacturers at least one of the complaints has been about a toshiba tv some users have reportedly contacted Hisense directly and provided their TV's unique ID to disable the ads.
2:40:30Spanish publication La Razón, I don't know how to Spanish accent, but anyway, published a statement from Hisense that denied wrongdoing, asserting that an incident covered was a one-off test that did not affect the normal operation of the television or limit access to its main uses. This is translated by Google Translate. The question for me, and whenever a company uses this as an excuse is why are you testing that you know yeah it's like it's like do you think that do you think that that would i don't know i'm in i'm in korea so i got korea on the brain but do you think that if the north koreans you know did a nuclear test and everyone was like yo can you not don't you know don't don't build a nuclear program and they're like well i was just testing it you know what does that mean right what does i was just testing it mean it means it means you're testing it.
2:41:25Like, why, why did you, why did you need to test that? Sorry, Luke, do you want to show the thing now? I love this comment. CatOS said, oh God, there's an emergency alert. Better turn on the news and then you just get an ad. Um, right? Like, can we not please? What do you want me to read? Sorry. I wanted to see one of the examples. Oh yeah, no, I showed them all. Oh, brilliant. Okay, well, I missed them. Uh, yeah, I, uh, IIRFTW in floatplane chat says you've spent dev time on it. Yes. This is not a bug. I'll show it again. Here's my favorite one. So they're on their homepage thing. You can see them navigate down to here and just Wow.
2:42:12And that is a whole ass ad. Whole ad. Whole ad. Rough. Wild. dude okay investment disclosure framework hear me out framework tv i'd be very interested actually it just wasn't crap i'd be super interested genuinely oh my goodness yeah what about a tv that you could upgrade you could upgrade the processor in for like your google tv or whatever it is or or it just had a little like nook that you could like put an apple tv in and then you could just configure the firmware of the tv to just launch your apple tv every time you you know what i mean so black raven asks would it be a dumb tv or a smart tv i would see it as i would see it as both yeah colonel critic says that's just a tv with a dongle but but that's the thing is i wouldn't want to i personally like using whatever it's called i forget they've rebranded a couple times whether it's android tv or google tv or whatever it is i like google tv it's pretty good.
2:43:13I like to use it. But over time, you get heavier media files or, you know, whatever. I might like to be able to upgrade the processor, make it more responsive. Sometimes I like gaming on it. There's a fun game, Bomb Squad, that's really fun with a big group gaming on the TV. Choice. Exactly, Ricky Bobby. Choice. I want choice. And so if somebody wants a stupid one, then yeah, have a stupid TV. Have a dumb TV and have it not do any of that stuff. But I also want to have the option to do that and if there was anyone that i would trust to do it i think it'd be framework i think i i think i could trust them to not screw this up investment disclosure yeah that'd be awesome i'm i'm pitching it i'm pitching it right now no guarantees that they'll do it of course they're gonna be more expensive they don't work for me yeah and and they're uh they're gonna be more expensive even if they do make one like people have to realize that this crap is why is part of the reason why TVs are so cheap now because they're monetizing your you know I'm getting a lot of packet loss sorry guys uh I can maybe just do another topic while we wait for him let me see if there's something I can talk about Slay the Spire I can talk about that for as long as you want we'll wait for Linus to catch up here um Slay the Spire 2 almost beat Silksong's record, which I didn't even think it was going to get quite that high, but I'm very proud of them.
2:44:40Good job, Megacrit. I've played too much of your game. The sequel to Megacrit's 2019 hit, well, just called Slay the Spire, to be clear, hit... This one? Hi! Hit... They apparently recorded nearly 575 ,000 concurrent players after its early access release last week. It's still in early access. I was, you know, whatever. Only about 12 ,000 players shy, which when you're at the scale of over half a million is not that much, of the indie record set by Hollow Knight Silksong back in September of... last year? Really? September, yeah. That was that long ago. Yeah. Wow. I mean, I was going to say it was not very long ago, but yes, it's both.
2:45:32All right. The game already has more than 43 ,000 reviews on Steam and is rated overwhelmingly positive. Yes, let's go. Exciting. Have I been playing? I have played. I played mostly on the plane to and from Florida, but I played a little bit since then, too. It's a long flight. It's a long flight, so I got a lot in there. It's good. I don't know if I Did you achieve your goal Luke? I did
2:46:08He's lagging to all heck but he asked I'm going to take the self-brag alley-oop that he gave me He asked did you achieve your goal of being at once at least on every single character before we got back and I only played it on the plane and I tried not to be too antisocial and yes I did Dan I think saw me do it as we were landing almost yeah i think i finished the last run you were like i did it yeah i did it laptop close all right we're landing still having conversations the whole time yeah um it's ah it's early access the original game went through a bunch of balancing over time i think it definitely needs more balancing work um in oh right i'm looking over here now uh in in my opinion it still needs more work but the the bones feel really good in my opinion um i don't actually care too much that there's like animations now and stuff um it looks nice it just doesn't really mean much to me um but the the bones are really cool the new necromancer characters like one of my favorite ones i'm not super happy about the current state of silent which is generally my favorite character um so i'm hoping there's some rebalancing stuff that happens there but yeah we'll see we'll have to see what they do over the course of the early access and then what they do after the fact like Slay the Spire 1 if I remember correctly I think it was like released before Defect even came into the game I'm not I'm not sure when it was technically out and then Watcher came after as well the difficulty floor is so much higher than STS 1 that's interesting it feels just actually easier to me um but i've been i've been really interested in what the community thinks about the the difficulty of the game there i have found that there are more like kind of just i run into a mechanic and i'm just like like the i think it's called the time eater in slay aspire one one of the act three bosses which is super annoying because if you played a lot of cards then it just hard directly counters you and almost all my favorite decks on almost every character was just play a crazy amount of cards um so it's really annoying to run into time eater and now i find that there's more like time eater style enemies where it's like haha you decided to build your deck that way i guess you have a bad time now and i don't love that so much um again into that the balance with clear obscure as well yeah um all right sorry everyone calls it expedition 33 where it's like oh you are not built in this exact way therefore your your break damage is too low and you can beat this boss but you will have to grind it will take you forever like there's an end boss called the queen um and i haven't read a bunch of like other people's opinions on Sidesfire 2 yet but I read one thread because I was like I heard that one was super thanks for asking it's an old reference I don't get it but yeah I was like I wonder what other people think about this like horribly difficult boss and I honestly thought all the other act 3 bosses were like so easy that they might as well been like elites or not even that hard and then the queen is just like this horrifying mess of destroy my everything and then i read online that everyone's like wow that's the easiest one and i don't know what's going on so i might not have opinions that line up with other people um i also find that or sorry i also saw in that thread that apparently people were saying that the queen punishes hyper-optimized decks and if you just like grab cards for fun and your deck isn't like built around a certain system that you have an easier time with it.
2:50:02And I tend to try to make optimized decks. But then that's, it runs into the same problem where it's like, especially when you're running on really high difficulty, you're probably going to want optimized decks. So then you just have like a die roll that if your game has the queen as the end boss, you just lose. Like, I don't like that. That's what I really, really hated about Time Eater. But anyways, Slay Aspire, really cool game. It's overwhelmingly positive, even if I don't currently like it as much as Slay Aspire 1. And I think they can tune things up because they have in the past and Mega Crit is based.
2:50:36And I even really liked their other random game, Mega Crit Dancing Game. Will I be able to find it this way? Dancing Duelist. This game, I believe, is even free. It's on itch.io called Dancing Duelist. And this game is super fun. Yeah, you can just download the zip for Mac, Linux, or Windows. right there. It's a game jam game. Yeah, it's a game jam game and it's super fun. This was their first exploration into Godot if I remember correctly. And it's a fun little game. Let me see if I can swoop. Gameplay. Yeah, you pick your little dancer bro and then you have your different cards and then the game kind of like semi-auto plays but it's like you build the deck and then it kind of does the things or whatever and blah blah blah blah for a game jam game holy crap it was amazing that's cool it seems to be done the jump ship jam which is over a month so probably why it looks a little better it was like pretty polished and stuff month game jams intense yeah uh but yeah cool slay spire 2 sweet i'm sure i will continue playing it for a long time very nice
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2:54:17I'm so disappointed that you fixed your hair. This is the last one was supposed to be a hair zoom in. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's funny. Darn. I had this situation before the show where this was doing a weird thing and I decided to fix it. I also, one quick last thing, quick, I swear, about Slay the Spire, is the very first event I did on my very first run. I got an it was an option I could do something who knows never choose that choice or I could get an egg and spoiler alert don't listen to this part plug your ears if you care about spoilers for Slay the Spire which I don't think anyone does I'm plugging my ears but I have headphones and what am I going to do?
2:54:55Linus doesn't care but I hatched the egg and this was first event first run I'm just putting it out there just saying maybe I don't want to know you literally get a little bird bro I'm not going to worry about it. You get a little bird bro and he fights with you all the way up the spire. The second that happened, I was like, I can't lose. I can't lose when I have bird friend. That's impossible. That can't happen. I just thought it was amazing that my first run, I got bird immediately. It was great. Let's jump into... Sony appears to be experimenting with dynamic AB pricing on the PlayStation Store.
2:55:37PlayStation Store price trackers at PSPrices.com have been following dynamic A-B pricing experiments since late last year, where Sony has shown users varying discounts of up to 27.8%. The experiment has lasted over four months and included over 190 games in over 70 regions, including the US. Affected titles have included developers like Sony, 2K Games, Focus Entertainment, Deep Silver, Bethesda, Rockstar, and Ubisoft. Our discussion question here is, are deep discounts coming to consoles? What? I don't think that's... The more important discussion question is, dynamic pricing. Can we not infect absolutely everything with this?
2:56:22Can we just have the price be the price? Yeah, I don't think this is deep discounts coming to consoles. I think this is trying to extract as much possible dollars from each possible person you can by like tracking what things they might like and might not like and making sure that there is optimal amounts of discounts applied to each individual person so you can extract as many dollars as possible at any given time. This is super bad. This is just a bad thing. MRO Mutt says, I was about to say dynamic pricing on a digital store is pure evil, but if it's just discounts, I'm not as upset. But that's the thing.
2:57:01Everything is. Dynamic discounts are just dynamic pricing. Yuck.
2:57:09Yeah. You could kind of consider that everything is a million dollars with a certain amount of discount applied to it. Like the original price just doesn't matter. Oh my God. Have you seen some of the, uh, some of the stuff people are sharing about Best Buy's Compare At feature? We already talked about it a couple of weeks ago, I think it was. So we don't have to go through the whole thing, but people are posting some unhinged comparisons. Like I think there was someone bought open box, uh, AirPods or something like that. And the Compare At was to brand new AirPods. It's like, okay, yeah, sure.
2:57:45That's, that's how that works. I think that's what I saw. $350 of savings. gross cool in other news that's gross Meta has acquired Moltbook the social media platform for AI agents really bringing the company's founders Matt Schlicht and Ben Parr into Meta's AI research division Schlicht says he built Moltbook without writing a single line of code relying instead on his personal AI assistant Claude Claudeberg financial terms of the deal were not disclosed oh my god in other AI news our discussion question is does whatever research benefit we might gain from AI agents sending each other pictures of their lunches outweigh the cost in natural resources thank you Jordan for asking such a leading question with such an obvious answer in other fun AI news Amazon's AI coding tools linked to outages as internal documents reveal push for senior sign-off on generated AI code.
2:58:52After a six-hour Amazon.com outage and multiple AWS incidents, internal documents seen by the Financial Times show Amazon Senior Vice President Dave Treadwell calling out a trend of incidents tied to Gen AI-assisted changes with a high blast radius and pushing for senior engineer sign-off on AI-assisted code changes. Amazon disputes the framing, saying only one incident was AI-related, none involved AI-written code, and the sign-off requirement isn't being formally mandated. Ooh, the last part. Okay. The AWS incidents... That's not the win you think it is. Yeah. The AWS incidents included a 13-hour outage caused by Amazon's own Kiro AI coding tool, deleting and recreating an entire environment, which Amazon attributed to user error rather than AI itself.
2:59:48Everything can be, and in a lot of ways, fair enough, but that's why you need the sign-off thing, right? Discussion question. Amazon's own internal memo blamed AI tools, but the company's PR team is saying it's the opposite. it who do you believe uh the internal memo for sure 100 of the time to be clear internal memos can be bs yeah but when i'm comparing it to a pr statement it's going to be the internal memo 100 of the time yeah it's not corporate popular right now to be like no no no the the the ai tools are bad for sure don't use ours they have problems that's not it's not going to go well right now silicon valley like the tv show was just so far ahead like it it feels like uh it feels like it feels so accurate that it's it's almost creepy at this point yeah um yeah i don't know how to deal with it like it's it's it's gone full circle from like so outlandic or so true to life that it's funny to so true to life that it's not funny anymore yeah wet melon says i work at a silicon valley company i still haven't seen it lol i should really get around to that you really really should if you've ever been anywhere near a startup or a big tech company it is so funny like i don't understand how it's that just how it captures the real experience and yet manages to be funny and not just depressing it's it's so good inside out dude i actually have only i've not seen the entire run i think i've only seen the first three seasons i like bought them on blu-ray i binged the first season with austin evans randomly enough.
3:01:44Really? Yeah, it was great. Nice. We're hanging out. Nintendo is suing the U.S. government over tariffs. Nintendo is seeking a full refund with interest of tariffs it paid under the IEEPA executive order signed by President Trump after the Supreme Court struck these orders, or sorry, multiple orders, struck these orders down in February. Over a thousand companies, including Costco and FedEx, have filed similar suits with a judge already ruling that they are, in fact, entitled to refunds. Nintendo's lawsuit has since been automatically paused pending the outcome of a broader Supreme Court case covering all similar claims.
3:02:30Trump has since announced plans to reimpose tariffs through Section 122 of the Trade Act of 1974, which is a more legally constrained method and has two dozen states over two dozen states already suing over that move as well here's the thing that i'm gonna just come out and say i'm finding a little bit confusing about all of this I have paid through companies that I am either sole owner or partner owner a lot of money in tariffs for products that we have exported into the United States. there is a part of me that would obviously love to have that money back. I'm pretty sure it's like over a million dollars, like a lot of money.
3:03:24We sell a lot of goods on ltdstore.com. It's a good store with great products. People love them. And businesses has been okay. You know, there's a lot of headwinds right now. Every all hands, you hear Taryn use the word headwinds. But overall, You know, we've been we've diversified. The team has worked hard. We're doing stuff, you know, we're getting it done. And so with that volume of business, there's been a lot of money that has gone towards tariffs. I'd love to have it back. But here's the thing. I believe not. I believe it's just I believe it is a fact there. I'll say this, that tariffs are in fact a consumer tax.
3:04:14So why would I get the refund? So here's what I'm kind of trying to understand. And I know that for someone like Nintendo or Costco, right? They have made the argument, especially Costco. I don't actually know that Nintendo is making this argument, but I know that Costco made the argument that they held their pricing steady, right? And they absorbed the tariffs because they believed that they would be able to sue for the tariff money back. And that would make them whole eventually. I mean, you know, minus interest, obviously, opportunity costs and whatever else, right? um but in the current climate where will we find the nuance to differentiate between a company like Costco who claims right and I would tend to believe Costco they've operated with pretty strong integrity over the years who claims that they ate the cost compared to other companies who pass the cost along to consumers and then will basically be taking back free money.
3:05:27How do we differentiate that? How do you prove that? I have no idea. I think that's part of their argument, actually, is they haven't started this stuff. And if I remember correctly, the Nintendo suit is already paused. And I think the big part of that reason is because they're saying it's just too complicated. So we're going to have to see where that goes. I also think, like, I think as far as my understanding goes we tried to keep prices down for Americans so that would partially include us so maybe there needs to be just a refund in both directions. Ours was complicated because it's like some products some things and I'm sure that almost everyone is probably kind of like us yeah because it was so volatile and at times there was a tariff one day and then there was like oh forget it the next day and and it was just it was chaos um there were times when we just ate it there were other times where we went to our suppliers and we worked with them to to to manage margins across the board so they would take a small hit we would take a small hit and we'd make a small adjustment to pricing so everybody's taking a small hit the consumer us and our manufacturers then there were the times when we just, we had to.
3:06:46We just had to increase pricing. So we've done all of them. So what's the right thing to do? There's also, I don't want to say this name, but someone in Full Plane Chat said, yeah, so what about companies that raise global pricing to subsidize Americans? Which did also happen. That's tough. You can't really solve that. Where's the refund for European Xbox buyers? Yeah. It's not happening. so basically this is the this is the dumbest possible outcome because the u.s taxpayer gets nothing for all of it the u.s government gets nothing for all of it it's like the least surprising don't get any of the money just funnel more money to the rich and are we really just going to give a refund to the corporations who you know what from my point of view, we're dramatically inconvenienced by this whole thing.
3:07:46And it did affect our revenue. And it did affect our profit. It wasn't just inconvenience. This was a serious problem with the money that was charged and also the haphazard way that the whole thing was implemented and messaged. It burned countless, countless cycles and a ton of money for us like the whole thing just is looking even dumber and like an even stupider more useless crap outcome than i even could have predicted and i was pretty opposed to the whole thing in the first place for fairly obvious reasons just wild so dumb did you hear about a government affiliated official that's been running around selling or basically buying companies tariff refunds for like pennies on the dollar corruption in plain sight boys it's been I think he's a dude in like the financial part of the government as well like I think he might have some amount of influence over if this is even happening um so wait say the name again was it Scott Besson yeah I thought it was him um I can't remember there we go isn't he still in finance stuff anyways yeah yeah yeah United States Secretary of Commerce so like a person doing finance stuff who like is gonna have a lot of influence I just ugh anyways let's see man let's get through this we got a couple more to go i need to get into after dark here this is getting brutal um byd reveals charging network in world's longest range ev chinese automaker byd has reportedly been testing a 1500 kilowatt hour flash charging network in shenzhen that is capable of adding 249 miles of evie range in five minutes that means this network is more than three times faster than the ultra rapid chargers that currently exist in North America and Europe.
3:10:00The test hub uses liquid cooled charging guns, which just sounds awesome, that allow users to roll up, plug in and handle payment on either the infotainment or an Android app. The pricing at the demo site was about 18 cents per kilowatt hour, making a charging session about 15 bucks. Meanwhile, in America, cyber trucks currently handle the highest charging speeds with peaks at around 500 kilowatt hours so a third if the claim is real byd's luxury brand denza also teased their new z9 gt suv with 644 miles of range a 64 improvement from the current z9 gt models 391 mile range which is priced at around 50 000 usd it is worth noting that the chinese um range estimates are are not as um as difficult as the epa uh us ones so there's a bit of translation that'll have to go on there but that is still freaking wild that's an enormous range for for an suv it's not a big suv i don't think trying to see like how what would this do it looks more model Y or model X it actually looks amazing this is the Zed 9 I decided I'll just look it up but like that $50 ,000 car dude like I'm so stoked on being able to get BYD soon dude yeah they're gonna disappear they're gonna sell out instantaneously there's I think it's 50 ,000 cars that they're in total allowed to bring in they're just all gonna disappear looks like that inside 952 break horsepower
3:11:54952 looks like that inside looks like this outside and it's 50k you think those aren't going to instantly disappear in canada people are going to buy those immediately 950 is that a joke linus how much how much did your porsche got uh i can see the video i can see the video now. Nothing has that much. I can see the video now. I bought a new car. Linus Sebastian. 400. The 2023 I can't remember if I have a 2022 or a 2023, but they should be the same power. The 2023 Taycan Turbo S produces 616 horsepower, which increases with launch control to 750. So this SUV would have substantially more horsepower than my stupid Taycan.
3:12:49Ridiculous. I really like that on their dash I really like kind of how they laid this out. I know there's like other EVs with this to be very very clear. It looks like they have dual wireless charging pads for phones I think. Passenger and driver. And then I like that just in front of the wheel is actually quite simple. There are lots of other EVs. that do that as well but sometimes they get a little bit too busy right in front of the wheel and i don't like that keep the infotainment in the middle damn damn uh youtube is expanding their ai deep fake detection to include politicians government officials and journalists that's it that's all that i really have to say about that they say they'll still protect parody and satire um that involves these public figures but yeah this is this is a good thing and they should they should do deep fake detection more and just generally ai detection more and not less also after complaints google will make it easier to disable generative ai search in photos including a toggle for fast classic search nice nice now what i want to know is where's my good fast non-ai gmail search dude i had a wild interaction with gmail search the other day where I looked for a keyword that I knew for sure was in something recent and it wouldn't bring it up it only brought up like one page of results even though there should have been like hundreds of emails with this common word and I actually had to use for the first time the Gemini Gmail search in order to find it and it found it immediately but I was just so annoyed with that workflow just just find the word if the email contains the word bring up the email how complicated as this.
3:14:37Google was good at this 10 years ago. Why do they suck at it now? Alright, carry on. I don't exactly shop for cars too often, but this is cool, man. Is that seriously 50 grand? That's a cool configurator. You can like click around and stuff happens. It won't be here. That's like converted, so there'll still be like extra transportation costs and they'll have to cover their operational costs of running in the country. So I would suspect it'll be closer to like 75 or 80. yeah but not like 150 which is kind of what I would expect for a car that looks like that it has those specifications yeah buddy what if I click space what does that do oh wow scenarios
3:15:24I don't know the domestics have like this is weird did you see the shocks I'm sure there's like other again I don't exactly buy for new shop for new cars ever but um that's a cool that's a cool little thing they made you can look yeah just no touch can't wait to buy one on craig's list in 25 years from now yeah it's gonna be sick dude they have a freaking like what bruh again 50 grand like the big ones compete with maybok and they're like 100 grand you can't scroll this that's wild man wla audio system so they even ponied up for bushy co-branding for their audio and still manage to make it this cheap.
3:16:10Digital side mirrors. That's wild. Are those legal in Canada? I don't think so. Digital side mirrors? Yeah. I don't think so. I don't think they are either. The cooler is sweet. You know, to have cold water would be dope. I know. Anyways, enough drooling over that car. What do we got next? There's something, I think. Are we done? I think it's after dark. Let's go!
3:16:37after dark okay i got a few checkout messages for you here first up first you really need tall sizes for the grey rgb shirts um second lld what are your favorite guilty pleasure self-serving dan
3:17:01i liked that that was good that was really good second up lld what are your favorite guilty pleasure treats and candies uh this guy was actually first this is the first merch message we received so double first oh man i've got i've got lots of guilty pleasure treats and candies i i have a wicked sweet tooth i remember this one time you know those uh those like sour strips that are rainbow colored that you could get in like a bulk pack at costco yeah you know the ones i'm talking about i once ate an entire costco bulk pack of those in a weekend sitting gaming at my desk yeah we're talking like an actual brick of sugar holy crap damn that's wild yeah i i i gotta i've got a sweet tooth it takes it takes a lot of discipline for me to eat as little sweets as i do these days as i'm getting that anymore my metabolism used to be like hyper and now it just i just can't um but like oh man i love me a perfectly toasted marshmallow like oh love that um spicy ramen noodles that's my like late at night oh just like a a i'll make let i have eaten in one sitting continuously As many as three packs plus eggs.
3:18:30Just like nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, nom. After midnight. Whoa, this is a bad one. I once ate, you know the Dempster's like kind of like crappy white bread, cinnamon raisin bread. I once ate in one sitting in the middle of the night when I was like craving a midnight snack, an entire loaf of it. Piece by piece. Okay. I've got one of those damn okay alright every slice you might still have me then my like diet when I used to work at the bread factory so this would have been not way too long before I met you to be honest yeah was I would bring a can of stag chili to work and a bowl but I wouldn't bring any utensils and you know statute of limitations whatever it's probably fine they had this policy where like if there was a bag of ruined bread you could just have it so a single bag of bread would just fly out of the facility for some reason and it'd be outside on the ground and that's ruined so then I would eat stag chili with an entire loaf of bread and that would be my lunch like every time so I would buy stag for with like when my parents would go to Costco we'd get just tons of Costco stag chili packs so they're super cheap and then the bread was free and that was my meal that was like i was effectively like one meal a day fasting because i would eat a whole loaf of bread and a can of steak just be like hell yeah
3:20:10um so i lived off that for like a while in terms of guilty pleasures these are rare but a long-term LTT staple community person, MAPE, got me onto these but they're licorice from New Zealand called RJ's and you can find them in stores every once in a while I know like way back when we worked out of the Langley house that there was like a grocery store that was near the corner store that was down the street I don't know the name of the grocery store but that grocery store had it. Oh, what, Nestor's? Was it Nestor's? Oh, wait, no, Belangu's. Oh, I don't remember what grocery store that was. Yeah, never mind.
3:20:54I know I've been there. I went there a few. It was more expensive than the Savon. The Savon was just down the hill, so like, I didn't go there that often, but it was a couple times. Dude, I have so many more. I mean, yeah. Another one that I really like, which I think this might be controversial, actually, is Hawkins. Hawkins I've never tried that Hawkins Cheesies I got a rifle here
3:21:25I must have spelled it wrong Hawkins Cheesies It's a Canadian brand Canadian made thing Something that I really like is that the ingredients Is like pretty chill Not about to say they're good for you Not about to say they're low calorie I don't think they're necessarily either of those but the ingredients list is like relatively short and i can tell what's happening which is neat um but yeah they're canadian which i thought is i didn't know the brand was hawkins yeah well cheesy yeah cheesies with a zed and they're like they're normally the the crunchier kind of like smaller ones they're not the like big poofy ones not the poofs yeah i don't like the poofs i like hawkins that's another one that's like it's pretty rare but when they're around their neat my my probably biggest guilty pleasure though has got to be breakfast cereal and i'm talking like like the sugar bombs chocolate frosted sugar bombs type like nesquik uh honey nut checks oh gosh cinnamon toast crunch i would something i'm i think i'm fairly lucky for is i liked those when i was a kid but now i genuinely just prefer like muesli like actually just really like it especially you cut up some banana in it too like um one of my worst ones i i didn't do it once this winter i made it all the way through the winter without doing this but i uh i will make a cup of hot chocolate and then i'll put probably about this much whipped cream on the top of it and then i'll get a spoon and i'll dip it into the hot chocolate and then eat the whipped cream off the top and then i'll hit it again with whipped cream all the way down look up i love whipped cream i think it's funny because you you usually eat like quite clean and then when you dive off the end you just go really hard dude a hundred percent a hundred percent and like for me as long as I can pass a pinch test like I'll eat the dirtiest stuff like oh dude but for me it's all about the pinch test but when I don't pass the pinch test then I'm extremely disciplined
3:23:52Hey DLL love all your videos I'm interested in a framework 12 but I was seriously turned off by the price of RAM Do you guys think that the Framework 12 is in trouble unless the price of RAM falls? I think everything's in trouble unless the price of RAM falls. That's been a major point of discussion in the tech space for the last three to five months. It's a major problem. Yeah, yeah, I think they're in trouble if the price of RAM doesn't fall. I hope it kind of seems like there's signs of cracking in the AI bubble right now. It hasn't, you know, entered free fall or anything like that. But isn't Oracle stock like way down right now?
3:24:41I think everything stock is way down right now. Oracle stock is definitely down. yeah and i think like because of ai over over but ai pressure that's a big part of the reason that oracle's coming down so down three percent today maybe it's coming maybe it's coming well i'm not gonna hold my breath today they're down like two and a half three percent five days they're up two and a half three percent one month they're down three-ish percent six months they're down 48.6 percent so yeah if you look at the six-month trend things are not looking good they're up five percent from last year yep nice nothing matters yeah so so following the ai bubble and then maybe we're maybe we're on the way down hopefully that'd be awesome i saw a new animal used to describe the stock market apparently we're in a kangaroo market boing so forget about bears and bulls it's just up and down they're also the ones that punch you in the face yeah that still seems right yep absolutely tracks yeah what's up boys luke how's your fitness journey going would like to know if you tweaked your diet at all lately looking good my boy uh the last comment's a little surprising it's not going well i basically for well it's all relative luke i mean compared to where you started i think you're still looking pretty good yeah that's probably i can see where they're coming from yeah i think you see every little imperfection but yeah i'm very frustrated right now basically so okay so i was traveling a bunch and was kind of out of the gym because i was still working out when i could like i got a workout in in hong kong uh like i was i was trying to make things happen.
3:26:33I was keeping it going. And then I came back and I had this crazy reno that lasted for like over six months. Um, so I was inconsistent about my workouts. Then a crazy reno that went on for a long time where I couldn't really use my kitchen. So I had like non prepared meals and no gym time for over six months. Um, and that really, what are we hearing right now? uh yvonne's back in the room okay um i thought that was local sorry no you're good i thought that was local um yep so i i lost a lot of traction there and the big problem that i'm having realistically right now is that old injuries that i had like had under control they weren't dealt with they weren't fixed but i had them under control are now again not in a state that i would consider under control um so like i i have to go up a certain amount of quite a few stairs to take the stairs in my building i try to take the stairs exclusively every time um and every once in a while that'll kind of throw my knee out a little bit and it's just like damn man like i think a week or two ago i literally went up one flight of stairs and my And he was like, nope.
3:27:58And it's just like, oh, like this, this was something that I had completely solved, like not that long ago. And then just through, I, and I had talked about this on WAN show. I had talked about this with lots of people where I was like, no, I just have to do this forever. And I didn't really think like, I knew I was doing stuff, you know, I'd work around the house. I was traveling, whatever. Like I, I didn't, it wasn't like laziness that was keeping me out of the gym, but I didn't go to the gym for a while. And my diet went to crap. And that combination, I think just brought everything kind of back.
3:28:26So I have to go through this like reparative phase again, which I've been working on. I do these like, uh, like, I don't know what you want to call them. These like really weird lunges where you get your knee way over your toe. Um, and, and do, there's a, there's a YouTuber guy, knees over toes guy. I've been following some of his stuff. That's how I, uh, originally fixed my knees was following some of his stuff. Uh, my shoulder, I don't have anything particular. It's just these things that I call side poles. I don't know what they're actually called and hanging. I do both of those and those help, but like my hangs have gotten a lot worse because I wasn't doing them.
3:29:00Uh, and, and yeah, backwards running, like there's lots of different things that I do, but they're just in a terrible state right now. So I can't like, um, it's just very frustrating. And I would way rather, I know there's like the whole, you can't work out a, you can't work off a bad diet. Yeah. But you can really support a much worse diet by doing a lot of activity. and I would way rather it's not even necessarily that I want to eat junk all the time I just hate eating very little I hate that scenario I'd rather just be active and then eat like a pretty decent amount rotator cuff exercises yeah so my things are both of my knees but mostly my right knee but it's both my right shoulder cuff and my lower back on the right hand side I got speared there in hockey when I was younger the back is kind of the least problematic one but when it's a problem I'm out it's like when it when it kind of flares up I'll be done for like a month but it's it's it's very frustrating I I knew when I was going to go back into the gym my lifts were going to be way lower and that was going to be annoying I didn't expect the like actually you can't go you have to go for walks all the time for a while and do these lunch things and do this like really boring stuff that has no like measurable improvement.
3:30:24I like number go up. I don't like, Oh, maybe I feel better today. I can't really tell. That's not very fun and it's difficult to be motivating, but I just have to do it because I have to get back on track. So I'm planning, if I remember correctly, it's like three more weeks. I'm going to try to go into the gym and try some stuff and I'll start with pretty low weights and be pretty chill and just try to see how things feel and i'll probably only do like i don't know once or twice a week at the beginning and just try to kind of ease back into it but i gotta be careful because i'm dealing with some broken stuff
3:31:05yeah i have very particular things that i do um that's fine we're not necessarily going to be doing the same stuff i'm just saying if you want if you want uh buddies me and jay kwan are there on mondays yeah that's not a bad idea usually i do um at the end there i was on a weird one you're too cool for us no monday is usually a day that i do monday is usually legs for me i like starting the week off with legs because legs takes the most energy and it is generally like the least like men don't tend to like doing legs as much so i just start with that one uh And then, yeah, so I used to do Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and then I was shifted to, I think it was like Monday, Thursday, Saturday for a bit there.
3:31:49But I'll move things around. There's probably a lot of granularity in the detail here. Yeah, we're losing it. But anyways, it's a little off track, but I'm trying to get back on the tracks, and I'm like actually peak frustrated right now, but we'll figure it out. Now, FanboyNZ says, have you considered GLP-1? but I think I can probably answer this for you. Luke's goal is not to have side effects and take a drug and do it the easy way. His goal is to be physically fit, which does not necessarily mean the shape. It means like he wants his strength back. Yeah, I don't actually care that much. And I don't think GLP-1 is a path to that.
3:32:29I don't actually care that much about the shape. Obviously, I do a little bit, but the goal is that I want to feel capable um i want to be able to run i want to be able to jump i want to be able to sprint i want to be able to lift i want to feel capable and feel healthy that's my by far primary goal um ribbit says glp1 is not the easy way so what would be the easy way for weight loss then like are you i i'm i'm having a hard time understanding what you mean by that first time i've ever heard that it's a head start right which is well yeah or if it says i've been on it for nearly two years and been working my butt off combined with it well right but yeah i mean that's the exact same relative that's the exact same and actually accurate as far as my understanding goes argument of steroids like you don't just become mr olympia by just taking steroids a lot of they will make you they will give you muscle mass just kind of automatically but also So a big part of it is it reduces your recovery time so you can work out more.
3:33:34You have to try harder. It unlocks trying harder. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, man, you're over 30. That feels good thing has sailed. No, I actually completely disagree. There was like before this happened, before the house reno, I was mostly feeling pretty good. I felt strong. Things were doing okay. obviously there's going to be lows but like there's relative i'm speaking relatively and relatively right now it feels terrible uh but it also feels a little bit better than it did last week so like okay we'll keep going all right dan hit me hello mental gen the linux challenges are always interesting to me i've been using a fairphone 6 with eos and loving it when is the eos or lineage os challenge also happy day before pi day i would actually love to look at lineage os again uh i'm i'm gonna i'm gonna put it on the list it's been on the list for a long time but i'm gonna i'm gonna surface that in my inbox uh lineage os is um is is such a cool idea to me in theory as a way to squeeze way more life out of older android devices and i i'd love to see now that we have five-year-old phones that are totally still good enough hardware wise to daily uh but maybe aren't getting software support anymore i'd i'd love to take a crack at it again yeah i used to run it it's awesome um last one i got for you here hey one pointed question oh You said it's awesome and used to.
3:35:19Why'd you stop? It wasn't available on my more recent phones. Got him. It's only available on some very specific models. Seems like a fair enough answer. I'm so sorry it's not an exciting. Yeah, a lot of these are specific phones, and I don't generally go for the generics. But I do always try and buy the ones that have unlocked bootloaders for the future in case someone makes one in 10 years so that they can keep working. last one hey dll just hit my 30s careers peaking and my gf and i keep getting the when's the wedding questions any advice for this stage of life anything you wish you knew in your early 30s sleep i've i've wrecked my i've wrecked myself honestly apparently you're supposed to work out with steroids i'm just hearing this now i gotta i gotta talk to my dealer don't work out with steroids just come work out um sleep i think that's the main piece of advice that i needed damn i still need i still need that advice i'm not doing very good at this yeah i got nothing for you i don't know if any of my advice is going to be that applicable i did my i did my early 30s in my early to mid 20s um just like went from well i'm in high school now I'm supposed to go to university.
3:36:42While I'm in university, now I'm supposed to get a career. While I'm in a career, now I'm supposed to get married. While I'm married, now I'm supposed to have a kid. Now I have a kid. Okay, let's complete the set. Let's get the family going. Oh, I'm going to start a business. I was just like, go, go, go, go, go, go, go. And there's a lot of arguments to be made that that is not the right choice for everyone. So, yeah, yeah. You know, definitely, you know for me partnering up was critical to my success um but you know i fully recognize that you know if if if the wedding is not you know right or the timing is not right for you then that's you know that's your choice you got to be you got to do things on your own terms but also if your plan is to get married and have kids you also got to understand that time is not infinite um i remember uh for our second kid i've told this story before but yvonne was what were you on 26 when when you talked to dr tam about uh our middle child yeah and uh she goes man it's just my sciatica pain is worse and my fatigue is worse and like my sleep is worse and everything is everything is harder this time and he just kind of has his clipboard out and he wasn't even looking at her didn't even bother to turn around he goes well you know spring chicken And it's like, bro, like, what are you talking about?
3:38:06We have this perception today that like, you just like have kids in your late 30s, or maybe even like in your 40s. And that's like, totally fine. But from like a biological standpoint, that's not how our bodies work. Peak, peak childbearing years are way before that. So if your plan is to do that, then the people who are asking, hey, like, are you getting on with it may just have your, you know, your health and your best interest in mind. But I will say that having kids young, there were a lot of things that we really didn't feel ready for. Ace of Tunes says my mom had me at 32 and the last was at 36.
3:38:46She was fine. And that's nice. But that doesn't change anything that I said. So cool. Sick. Next one. I don't have any more that's it that's all so we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye provisor such a good name
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