In short
The hosts discuss their week with the MacBook Neo (including real-world usability issues), broader PC platform shifts (Linux and Mac gains vs Windows), and several tech/business news items (Steam frame-rate estimator, French “Year of Linux,” U.S. right-to-repair settlement, Nintendo and Netflix pricing/legal news, plus LTT Store product launch).
Guests
No guest names are provided in the transcript. The episode includes multiple hosts (e.g., “Dan” is referenced as a co-host who helps with demos), but there are no clearly identified external guests.
Guest/host backgrounds (from transcript)
- Dan: co-host who helps test/confirm issues (e.g., external display/Wi‑Fi/video playback) and participates in discussions.
- Other hosts: one host is actively using a MacBook Neo as a daily driver; another is coming from a Linux challenge period and is learning macOS; they discuss Steam, Linux market trends, and Windows/Linux/Mac share.
Key claims
- MacBook Neo is “the real deal” for daily tasks (web browsing, word processing, chat), but has disruptive issues: limited I/O/docking quirks, external display scaling problems (Dell 6K/ultrawide handling), occasional Wi‑Fi streaming failures, and macOS learning/friction (install flow, “ghost loading,” app availability outside the App Store).
- Apple’s MacBook Neo demand may be constrained by A18 Pro “binned” chip shortages; Apple may consider restarting TSMC production or changing product mix.
- Valve is working on a Steam “frame rate estimator” using anonymized crowdsourced data and hardware inputs.
Notable examples
- YouTube and Frame.io video playback failing during Wi‑Fi issues.
- External monitor: runs at 4K instead of 6K; macOS scaling/DPI behavior is described as unacceptable; lid-close doesn’t fully resolve ultrawide resolution options.
- Steam hardware survey critique: core/frequency granularity is insufficient for predicting performance; frame-rate estimator is framed as a solution.
- Nintendo: digital vs physical pricing decoupling discussed as potentially pro-consumer.
- Netflix: Italy court ruling requiring refunds/rollback of subscription price increases (with potential large liability).
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOMacBook Neo Experiences
0:45 to 2:05
Discussion about the host's experiences with the MacBook Neo.
Linux Year in France
2:05 to 2:34
Talking about the French government declaring 'the year of Linux'.
“rep partner, Dbrand, and our chair partner and laptop partner, which is Razer, and also Razer.”
Deere Lawsuit and Repair Rights
2:34 to 4:05
Covering the settlement in the John Deere lawsuit regarding right to repair.
“Every aspect of it that you interface with directly is so good.”
Steam Frame Rate Estimator
4:05 to 5:15
Exciting new features coming to Steam, including a frame rate estimator.
“Unless you use software that you know you're going to need more RAM, you're going to need more performance for.”
MacBook Neo Mania
6:10 to 8:28
Delving into the features and experiences with the MacBook Neo.
“I haven't messed with external displays.”
User Challenges with MacBook
8:28 to 9:47
Discussing issues faced while using the MacBook Neo, including IO limitations.
“oh, drag and drop, but you drag and drop and nothing happens.”
Display Issues and Connectivity
9:47 to 10:54
Exploring problems with external displays and connectivity on the MacBook Neo.
Wi-Fi Issues and Setup Challenges
10:54 to 12:03
Discussing Wi-Fi connectivity issues and the learning curve of macOS.
Analyzing a Compelling Video on RAM Design
12:03 to 14:33
Discover a fascinating exploration of a video discussing RAM design constraints and performance.
“Yeah, and now it's just like ad garbage.”
Google One Storage Upgrade Announcement
14:33 to 15:05
Learn about Google's significant upgrade to its AI Pro subscribers' cloud storage offerings.
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The Benefits of Subscription Services
15:05 to 17:44
Explore the value of a subscription service that improves rather than declines over time.
“Here, let me send this over to you, Dan.”
The Concept of Home Labbing
17:44 to 20:51
Discuss the complexities and benefits of home lab setups in tech environments.
“This is a$350 laptop on the secondhand market two and a half, three years from now.”
Neural Compression: A New Frontier in AI
20:51 to 32:37
Dive into the emerging topic of neural compression technologies and their impact on VRAM.
NVIDIA vs Intel: Competing Approaches to Compression
32:37 to 35:14
Examine NVIDIA and Intel's different methods for handling neural texture compression.
“GPU and RAM, I also suspect eventually, if you do the hardware survey, it will just already have that information.”
Concerns Over Neural Rendering Technologies
35:14 to 45:52
Address the skepticism around the potential effects of new neural rendering technologies.
“with respect to the generation of the hardware that we're looking at.”
The Importance of User Experience in Gaming
45:52 to 48:11
Explore the significance of maintaining the original artistic vision in game development.
The Role of AI in Gaming and Media
48:11 to 50:35
Discuss the impact and reception of AI technologies in media and gaming development.
“Lawyers for the consumer group Movimento Consumatorio, sorry I'm sure I butchered that, estimate that premium subscribers who have been paying since 2017 are entitled to roughly 500 euros each.”
YouTube Premium Pricing Discussion
50:56 to 51:18
Examine the recent changes in YouTube Premium's pricing and its value proposition.
“I'd like to think like you're watching right now.”
Asbestos Removal Experience
57:09 to 57:57
Discussion about experiences related to asbestos removal and home repair.
Rewarding Project Memories
57:57 to 1:00:34
Sharing personal stories about rewarding projects, including RC car repairs.
“What is a project that felt super rewarding after completing?”
Discussion on Linux Adoption in France
1:00:34 to 1:01:08
Exploring France's move towards Linux and the implications for digital sovereignty.
Debating Linux Distro Options for France
1:01:08 to 1:06:25
A lively debate on potential Linux distributions the French government might use.
“They wouldn't be the first government to do that, and I think it's going to be based on Arch.”
AI Acquisition and Its Implications
1:06:25 to 1:10:00
Discussion about a humorous AI-generated summary regarding a fictional acquisition.
“But someone in the chat just said it if that's true if there's a chance that it's mint that would be so sick You are actually rooting for distros like a Linux now.”
Discussion on Linus Coin and FOMOFoundry.ai
1:10:00 to 1:11:56
Learn about the Linus Coin launch and the effort behind FOMOFoundry.ai.
“Following the acquisition, LMG launched the Linus coin, a physical token minted from defective screwdriver parts, which serves as a digital credit with a 2-to-1 redemption rate to maintain financial solvency.”
Skoda's Innovative Duo Bell for Cyclists
1:11:56 to 1:14:39
Discover Skoda's bicycle bell designed to cut through noise-cancelling headphones.
“the coin design did a lot of work getting the coin going the video production guys they did a lot of work make bringing the whole video together um elijah died for this project so that's true That was unfortunate, but...”
Samsung's Shift to RISC-V and Custom SSDs
1:17:19 to 1:20:20
Learn about Samsung's new SSD controller based on RISC-V architecture.
The Future of RISC-V and Open Source
1:20:20 to 1:24:01
Discuss the implications of RISC-V's rise and its impact on the tech landscape.
“SSD lineup with a custom in-house controller chip built on the open source RISC-V architecture, marking the first time Samsung has shipped a commercial product using RISC-V instead of ARM.”
The Shift Towards Open Source
1:24:01 to 1:24:24
Discussion on the trend of moving towards open source setups and potential fragmentation.
Political Corruption and Tech
1:24:24 to 1:25:14
Exploration of the implications of politicians endorsing cryptocurrencies and stocks.
Apple's Approval of eGPU Drivers
1:25:14 to 1:26:35
Apple's new drivers for AMD and NVIDIA eGPUs focus on AI workloads, not gaming.
“carry on yeah it gets a little worse uh the software is designed for ai though and not built for gaming.”
The Future of Apple and NVIDIA
1:26:35 to 1:28:08
Speculation on the potential thaw in the relationship between Apple and NVIDIA.
“We know this because they actually went and did the work and made a driver.”
Keychron's Open Source Initiative
1:28:08 to 1:28:56
Keychron's announcement of open source designs for keyboards and mice.
“Hey, what makes you think I would be on the bottom?”
Impacts of Open Source Hardware
1:28:56 to 1:31:08
Discussion on the implications of Keychron’s initiative and the importance of open source in hardware.
“They are miles ahead of basically every other keyboard and mouse brand as far as this goes, who all seem to treat physical geometry as proprietary and lock it away.”
Deere's Right to Repair Settlement
1:31:08 to 1:33:39
Overview of Deere's settlement related to repair services and implications for farmers.
“The fund covers farmers who paid Deere or its authorized dealers for large agricultural equipment repairs dating back to January of 2018.”
Challenges in Repair Industries
1:33:39 to 1:35:32
Discussion on the challenges of repair practices across different industries, including aviation and medicine.
NASA's Artemis II Photos
1:35:32 to 1:38:06
Review of stunning photos taken during the Artemis II lunar flyby and their significance.
“You know what I'm worried about, though?”
Photos from Orion Capsule
1:38:06 to 1:38:53
Discussing the stunning photos from the Orion capsule and the skepticism they face.
“Commander Reed Wiseman told Mission Control it was a surreal experience and said he'd need to invent new adjectives because no existing words could describe what they were seeing out the window.”
Conspiracy Theories and Flat Earth
1:38:54 to 1:40:03
Exploring the absurdities of conspiracy theories, particularly flat earth beliefs.
Emotional Commitment to Beliefs
1:40:04 to 1:41:11
Examining the emotional investment people make in their beliefs, even if unfounded.
Interesting vs. Boring Perspectives
1:41:12 to 1:42:36
Debating the interest level of various beliefs and the implications of choosing what to believe.
Placebo Effect in Belief Systems
1:42:37 to 1:43:40
Discussing how belief in the efficacy of treatments can impact outcomes.
“I understand what you're trying to go for.”
FCC Changes and Satellite Internet
1:43:41 to 1:45:13
Breaking down FCC rulings that could enhance satellite internet capabilities.
“FCC Chair Brendan Carr said that the change could boost capacity for space-based broadband by as much as seven times current levels using the same number of satellites.”
NASA Fan Testing Video Release
1:45:14 to 1:46:19
Highlighting the release of a NASA fan testing video and its significance.
“The timing's pretty excellent for them right now too with the rumored IPO coming.”
Fan Placement Decisions
1:46:51 to 1:49:27
Discussing the importance of fan placement in PC builds and its impact on cooling.
“But here they are, sort of foundationally involved in the design of functionally every single one you've ever used in your lifetime, unless you're very, very old.”
YouTube Video on RAM Design Flaws
1:51:47 to 1:52:47
Discussing a YouTube video on design flaws in RAM and its implications for performance.
Nostalgia for Past Products
2:06:00 to 2:06:36
A discussion about the nostalgia for older, less functional products.
“And I'll remember this for longer than I will remember them doing something cool.”
Tech Hobbies of Significant Others
2:08:28 to 2:11:04
Exploring the tech-related hobbies of the hosts' significant others.
“Excited these are out to share the LDD quality with my wife.”
Yvonne's Creative Projects
2:11:04 to 2:13:20
Yvonne's ventures into sewing, knitting, and crafting with technology.
“And that was a little bit ago, but she was quite successful with that.”
Discussion on Tesla's Self-Driving Technology
2:13:20 to 2:16:06
A critical view of the promises surrounding Tesla's autonomous driving tech.
“Psychoma asks if Yvonne used the laser cutter from her tech upgrade.”
Imagining an LTT Video Game
2:16:06 to 2:20:01
Hosts brainstorm ideas for an LTT-themed video game.
“And then the, the writer of the article actually didn't get them all.”
Gaming Hardware Discussions
2:20:01 to 2:20:46
Exploring the nuances of thermal adhesive and CPU modifications.
“Now we're getting a little bit closer to YouTube simulator, but it's still different.”
Tech Solutions for Family Photos
2:20:46 to 2:24:45
Comparing Google Photos with self-hosted solutions for sharing photos.
Creative Data Transfer Methods
2:24:45 to 2:27:19
Discussing unconventional ways to transfer large amounts of data.
Power Efficiency in Gaming PCs
2:27:19 to 2:31:44
Examining low power tech and building an efficient gaming PC.
“I don't think that's actually talked about enough.”
Behind the Scenes: Data Center Tour
2:31:44 to 2:34:00
Sharing experiences from a trip to a data center and its challenges.
“So I was up at like four 30 or something or four 20, uh, after doing the highest PC build.”
Data Center Tour Insights
2:34:00 to 2:35:32
The hosts discuss their recent data center tour and filming challenges.
Upcoming Video Highlights
2:35:32 to 2:38:06
Discussion about exciting new video content and special collaborations.
Tech Tips from Real-Life Situations
2:38:06 to 2:39:32
Hosts share stories that led to valuable tech tips and insights.
Exploring the Tech House Layout
2:39:32 to 2:43:02
Delving into the design challenges of a new tech house.
Parental Controls for Kids
2:43:02 to 2:48:00
Linus shares practical tips for managing children's online activity.
“Like I wouldn't actually bet money on it, but I don't think the worst of it has yet hit us because of how much later SSD prices started to skyrocket compared to RAM.”
Exploring Next Car Options
2:48:00 to 2:50:09
A discussion about future car choices, focusing on electric and hybrid options.
Car Preferences and Experiences
2:50:10 to 2:51:58
A lighthearted debate on car aesthetics and personal preferences.
“i don't like it i don't like it's butt you don't like it's butt i think i like the butt yeah i like i i loved a butt sorry what i gotta disagree what mid-year is this the 2023 2023.”
Reflections on Car Longevity
2:51:59 to 2:54:16
Considerations on car durability and the implications of keeping a vehicle long-term.
“Like it's not the technical like type R.”
Media That Inspires and Connects
2:54:17 to 2:57:14
Discussing impactful media experiences that inspire a sense of community.
“Well, not the one that Dan's talking about.”
Nostalgia is Not a Strategy
2:57:15 to 2:58:42
Commentary on the importance of forward-thinking in politics, referencing a notable speech.
“But I think that Prime Minister Carney's recent speech was...”
Useful but Unnecessary Tech
2:58:43 to 3:00:46
Discussion on tech gadgets that are not essential but enhance daily life.
“Greetings, Linus and the one on the right.”
Discussion on YouTube's Algorithm Changes
3:02:01 to 3:02:18
Learn about the impact of YouTube's algorithm on content creation.
“It would be nice if it can be one channel.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Welcome to the WAN Show! We got a great show lined up for you guys today. It is week two of the positive WAN Show. I had more fun last week than I probably have in over a year doing WAN show. Maybe we just keep it this way. I'm not committing anything. I was skimming through the dock today, and I was just like, yeah. Yeah, right? I want to talk about all these. We got a lot to talk about. One of the big ones is that I have spent about the last week with my MacBook Neo. I am ready to talk about some of my experiences with it, both good and also not as good. And in other news that I got right before the show started.
0:37you bought one technically not for me but yes i freaking called it so i can't believe how hard i called that yeah i i don't know usually you're the one who's predicting things out here like freaking nostradamus and now i get to do it yep it's a small win yep but it's a win nonetheless speaking of wins nonetheless the french government is ushering in l 'année de linux which i assume is how they would say it the year of linux we'll be talking about that what else we got today uh i mean there's more linux news on top of that deer john deere settles u.s right to repair lawsuit agreeing to a hundred a hundred million dollar fund for farmers and other things that i think is arguably like more important but we'll talk about that soon also steam uh just this is actually so exciting to me there's going to be a i can't find the topic but there's going to be a frame rate estimator for games when you're looking at them in the store so you can tell how well it might perform on your machine which is so sick and they would have the data they would have the data it's awesome and i would have the intro
2:04The show is brought to you today by Dbrand, Odoo, Squarespace, and Proton, alongside our rep partner, Dbrand, and our chair partner and laptop partner, which is Razer, and also Razer. Do we need to have a policy that you're only allowed to sponsor the WAN show like once at a time? You know what? No. No, I don't think we do. Let's jump right into the headline topic, which this week has just got to be, I mean, it's macbook neo mania out there and now that i've switched over to it dude i gotta say it's it's the real deal yeah it's funny because the one that i purchased which again wasn't for me but the one that i purchased is the same color yeah okay so you're one you like the uh you like the the the yellowish i think it's just fun there's so many things these days that are just either black or white yep and it's like okay so it's fun to just have something else i don't want to bore you guys and i know that you know the ltt audience tends to swing a little bit less hey i'm so excited about apple please tell me more about apple so why don't i talk about some of the challenges that i've had with it it turns out that while the macbook neo has been an absolutely fantabulous sort of daily driver machine uh web browsing word processing yeah uh chat you You know, all the things that I mostly spend my days doing have been, I don't know how to describe it, other than enjoyable.
3:38It's just such a nice machine to use. Every aspect of it that you interface with directly is so good. But there have been a few challenges that have reared their head over the last little bit. And the one that's probably been the most disruptive to me is the limitations on the IO. If you're the kind of person that never connects your laptop to anything, I think I could recommend the Neo without hesitation. Unless you use software that you know you're going to need more RAM, you're going to need more performance for. If you're just someone who uses a browser on your laptop, heck yeah. If you dock, I've had some issues.
4:23Really? Interesting. We got one of those dual USB-C port out into a big breakout box. It just runs along the side. I think there's one from Anker, Ugreen, a few different brands. Yeah. And it's been totally fine. But it's not a stock fully. It kind of is. There's HDMI out and stuff. In fairness to Apple, the display that I'm connected to, not the most compatible. It's that Dell 6K one that we did a video on a little while ago. And there's two problems. So first of all, it doesn't run at 6K, obviously, because there's no way that this would be able to drive it. It runs at 4K, which would be fine, except that macOS's native handling of non-16x9 and non-the-same-aspect ratio as their displays' displays is frankly unacceptable.
5:19there's already the weirdness with how mac handles your like where setting your resolution rather sets your dpi like it sets your scaling is is how we would sort of think of it on windows and that can already be a little bit confusing but on top of that when you go through the list even when you say expose all resolutions or show me every resolution or something like that when I'm connected to that Dell, even when I close my lid, which from the last time I did a MacBook challenge, if I recall correctly, is the only way to fully disable this display. You can't just like turn it off in the display manager.
5:57And if I'm wrong about that, guys, hit me up in the chat. But even if you close the lid and you're just only using your ultra wide display, I don't get a single ultra wide resolution. There is a tool that I downloaded. It's called better i think it's called better display yeah better display but frankly after spending about three minutes on it i didn't figure it out immediately and it is seems pretty pretty obtuse so the the stretching for my display has been pretty freaking annoying not nearly as annoying as the occasional complete disconnects oh weird it'll just disconnect go back to this for a second and then fire the display back up.
6:43I haven't messed with external displays. I haven't ran into any of that. Another big one is that I'm getting occasional Wi-Fi issues that I don't know if it's related to Apple's Wi-Fi chip or if it's related to our Ubiquiti access points or what it is. But I'm going to fire this over to Dan just so I can show you guys. but occasionally I will just run into a situation where I can't stream video. Weird. Yeah. I was trying to review a video today on frame IO and I just couldn't. And I was like, okay, that's really annoying, but maybe it's frame IO. I have seen it before. I've seen it on YouTube as well, but I was like, okay, maybe it's, maybe it's just frame IO being a derp.
7:30And so I fired up YouTube and I had exactly the same issue. I literally could not watch a YouTube video. I'm not going to make you guys watch the whole clip here, but Dan, did you get that? Yeah. Let me know when you get a chance. For me, just while he's figuring that out, there was some stuff that was just like learning curve things, right? Because I have no real experience with macOS, so trying to figure out how to set it up properly and stuff was just a little weird. It wasn't different. It wasn't that bad. It's just kind of different. and you know coming off of being on the linux challenge for two months or whatever like learning new things about an operating system is kind of fresh right now so not a big deal you might say you're more used to thinking different yeah yeah yeah um the thing that really got me the thing that really got me though was installing stuff it's very strange if it's not in the app store the drag and drop thing it's like oh drag and drop give us one sec dan um it's like oh oh, drag and drop, but you drag and drop and nothing happens.
8:36You have to like drag and hold and then like put it in an open spot in the folder and then it sort of happens. It's like, what? I don't even think you have to do that. I think it's already doing it. And then you're just fidgeting around more and it's doing it in the background. And then you're like, oh, it's done. There was also a lot of like ghost loading. That's what I want to call it. Is where like you'd go to launch something. It just nothing happens. your your mouse doesn't go beach ball just nothing happens nothing comes out and then you wait and then you oh man and then you you wait a while and then it just launches people are saying wrong and stuff like yeah probably i have no idea what i'm doing it's just those are the things that kind of felt weird so far and i mean to me it's like i get it that that's the mac way you you drag the thing over or whatever why yeah i already double clicked it yeah that was the weirdest part for me it was like what even is this step why what is the point yeah why just how about just no i i'm willing to bet this is one of those things where i understand why other people are used to it totally get it but hear me out would you notice or care if that step just went away and then nobody ever saw that ever again yeah probably not why does it like mount the installers maybe i was doing something weird very likely i was doing something weird because i don't know what the heck is going i was just i've been disappointed by how many things i couldn't find in the app store that too discord yeah wasn't in the app store why wasn't discord in the yeah why isn't discord in the very weird and maybe that's on discord because i went to install something and then realized like oh i'm probably being such a boomer they have an app store just like linux has a package manager i should just go use that and then yeah it just wasn't in there it's very odd i thought and that was one of the steps where i was like this is for sure a me problem so i checked did i spell discord right maybe it's buried for some reason i scroll the whole time no it's not there teams too what the heck didn't look for teams yeah and there's so many things and be like because people will take advantage of of vacuums in available apps there's all these things that are kind of similarly named trying to entice you to download them in the app store it's like nah it's obviously that's not what i want obviously i just want teams and i just want my discord yeah but other than that it's actually been wonderful and like i did the the body flex thing i did that as like a demo to show them like no it's actually made really well yeah it didn't budge let's uh let me show you how wonderful the experience i had earlier today was a laptop yeah but you don't know that this is oh no no i i rebooted it and the issue went away okay and it's happened a few times got it i don't think we ran into this i wonder if this is a problem with your unit or something we'll see if other people in chat have experienced this we're not going to be able to watch this whole thing it's a minute of of us watching this youtube video not load ah yeah so there's definitely been some just wasn't working it just it was not working it did it did not want any part of any of this i don't think we can go back then but yeah there you go um let me just see if there's anything else that's kind of stood out the performance is really great until it's not great search is incredible oh the spotlight oh oh he's spotlight now i don't think i've ever used spotlight before it's but it made me just mad again because i'm like why why is it windows so much better but spotlight seems awesome the funniest part of this is that correct me if i'm wrong but over the last few years i feel like the mac community has soured on spotlight a little bit and feels it's gotten worse wow it used to be like even better like god tier and now it's still like a tier in my oh it's way better in my opinion but um but from my understanding mac users are a little bit like come on apple we can do better than this because they know they can spotlight is like i really really like spotlight i find the uh navigation of like you know your local storage and stuff to be pretty simple like none of it feels like too bad it was kind of nice coming in with a little bit of pre-existing knowledge knowing that if i had like my active window the controls for it were going to be up in like the top bar whatever you want to call that like knowing that ahead of time was kind of helpful um learning how to use the i think it's the called the dock the bar at the bottom learning how to use that in different ways like what things mean like if it's to the right of the vertical line it's not actually on your dock it's just there right now and okay i want to actually pin that to the dock and blah blah blah i continue to be annoyed that apple just kind of gets a free pass for some of the included software that is basically an ad um like the fact that apple tv is just literally front and center that's okay on my mac when i buy it probably fair i did think it was kind of neat that games is there though and there's like chess pre-installed there's like some fun stuff like windows chess you don't want bejeweled with micro transactions this is see this is my point is like microsoft used to come with cool stuff.
14:04He used to get pinball and Solitaire. Space Cadet Table and FreeCell. Yeah, and now it's just like ad garbage. Mahjong. And I get the Mac open and I'm suddenly like excited to check out some of the apps. I'm like, oh, I wonder what the chess app is like. I wonder what some of these other things are like. I appreciate that not to already pivot it to Linux, but when I did my switch to KDE, KDE came with a bunch of pre-installed fun little games. I was like, oh, that's pretty sweet. They're so tiny. like cat os says you should try the windows power toys equivalent of spotlight it's so sad it's not built in no it's infuriating that i'm not it's good news and show week i'm not going to be infuriated today but good call good call but the number of times that i've read that comment in float plane chat is more than a dozen over a span of at least a couple of years at which point it's not on me for not installing it it's on microsoft for not implementing it like if windows is good by default come on guys i will likely be inspired to do things like that to mod it to make it even better but windows has to be good by default um if linux isn't quite there i'm much more willing to do stuff well i didn't pay for it because this is free i didn't pay for this is a very different they they cannot be seen as equivalencies in my mind even if you're putting the hat on and pirating Windows, I still think it's not the line is different and if I can spend a little bit of time and get Linux to a great spot and then just use that, I would rather do that than fight something that actively seems to hate me extremely different vibes Oh, Dan, I have another fun one for you I don't think this is really like actionable in any meaningful way but I just thought it was so funny that...
15:59Here, let me send this over to you, Dan. Let's do a topic really quick that is related to the MacBook Neo, and then we'll come back to something really funny. You're going to love this. The Neo has apparently been so popular that Apple is running out of the A18 Pro binned chips that were not quite iPhone 16 Pro ready, but work fine for the less constrained thermal situation in the Neo. Apple reportedly only planned to make five to six million units with the leftover supply they had and are now scrambling to get more chips. I mean, freaking how does it don't take this the wrong way. I mean, this in the most respectful way, because Apple is a modern day masterclass in supply chain management and forecasting.
16:45How the did Apple think they were only going to sell five to six million units of these things? i joe schmo who can't make enough cables to save my life could have told them triple it like this thing is an absolute game changer and that's probably before the educational institutions have even validated this thing like dude there's gonna be a lot more how can they not how could that that this is the kind of thing that i just i find so baffling like you remember back in the days when you were always working on like some review of some CPU or some GPU and We'd release our video where we're like yeah, it's not that good And then the brand would they'd call you up or they'd email you and they'd be like What do you mean?
17:33And we're kind of sitting here going like you can run the same You mean the same benchmarks that we can what are you talking about and in a lot of cases? Okay, this might explain some of it. Yeah, which is in a lot of those cases they did it was the the technical teams totally understood yeah and it would end up they would just end up being like i don't know it got to marketing and then they just said some stuff and like that's not what we found and this is like this is the opposite of that this is like how could they possibly not have known that they had the product launch of the decade on their hands in at least in the laptop category seriously name a laptop from the last 10 years as impactful as this one i am not trying to shill i don't have an investment in it i think framework has been very impactful i think if you'd said m1 macbook and i would have accepted that massive i still think this takes both of those though i think so too just because of the accessibility i think both of those are up there for different reasons because to me yeah damn the the long-term picture is also really important.
18:41This is not just today. This is a$350 laptop on the secondhand market two and a half, three years from now. And the thing is, with its build quality, it'll last, probably. It's probably going to be fine. Like you kind of had it slip a little bit earlier in the show and it bonked the table. Yeah, whatever. And part of me went like, and then I was like, actually, it's a tank. Yeah, it's probably fine. It's not going to care about that at all. And like the fact that there's so little battery in it to achieve the kind of battery life that I'm getting. It's not class. Well, it is class leading, but it's not it's not game changing battery life, especially for a MacBook.
19:21But it's outstanding, especially when you consider the size of that battery. The fact that it's cooling isn't stellar is kind of fun. Yeah. Like Alex's video, just putting the thermal pad under there. Like that's cool. That makes me want to go mod a laptop. i um i've always kind of wondered um like you know how there's laptop docks that are supposed to assist with cooling by just blowing another fan at the bottom turns out they don't really do that much at least for any laptops that we've ever tried it with but i've always kind of wondered if there could be a thermal interface material that's non-goopy sticky enough that you could like you could add a bit of surface area to something like would that be a good product for LTT store.
20:03Just a machined aluminum thing that you sit your MacBook Neo on. Are we on the same wavelength? Did you get this from someone? Did you hear this from someone? No. Why? You haven't heard this from anybody? From who? So I've been pushing this idea that there is a dock that you put your laptop in that you have to almost press it into. Like a Switch 2? And then kind of but flat. Okay. I was thinking flat but however it works. Yeah. And then it could like that you know where the usbcs are so if it's machined well enough maybe as you press it in it could like move a lever arm that plugs in usbc or something and it puts it on some type of cooling surface and i was thinking it would be really cool if it was like an actual thermal pad but they're probably all going to be too goopy yeah and when you pull it away it's going to pull some material off of it so like you we need some way and then i kind of came down to like uh um what are they called uh basically a piece of metal with uh one of those frick the electrical coolers that create heat on like a peltier peltiers are cool probably not the answer they're super inefficient yeah yeah and you've got to get rid of the heat somehow and so you end up with a fan and it ends up see i would want a passive solution for this and i don't think i would need active cooling i think that as long as i could get more i just don't know how you and this is ignorance not impossibility i don't know how you transfer that heat super effectively without goop yeah what what my ideal my ideal for something like this because like we've we've dabbled in improving the cooling of passive apple devices over many many years i remember water cooling the original usbc macbook back in what was it like 2013 just a tray of water something like that yeah using plasticine or like play-doh or something to shield the ports yeah and then just putting it in an ice bath yeah um it made a big difference made a big difference it was pretty cool um but ever since then i've always felt like the best solution would be something more like a um like a hot cold pack like a freezer pack like some kind of like a bladder that um that you could in a perfect world you could actually circulate fluid through so you could like water cool it but without actually having the water touching it i think you could yeah probably i just we've never we've never put the development cycles into making something like that because i what the market i have always adored the idea like i was pissed with the switch one that the dock didn't offer any potential performance improvements i have always adored the idea that like it works when you're mobile but then you can there's like an incentive to plugging it in that isn't just big screen now the incentive is like this is performance mode i always thought that was really cool um and realistically yeah uh avians this probably is an example of the type of device that you could just have a a laptop stand with a fan on it and would probably get you 98 of the way there yeah yeah yeah but the idea of like a big machined piece of aluminum with fins in it or something like that that you like that you put it on in order to get max performance and dock it's pretty cool it might make more sense once we get something with an a19 pro maybe a year a year and a half from now or something like that anyway back to our actual topic here according to tom's guide amazon seems to have the best availability of these things which matters because if you're ordering direct from apple apparently you're looking at up to four week delays.
23:38Wild. I got mine from, oh man, this is kind of unfortunate. I got mine from Best Buy. They were totally sold out on the lower capacity, no Touch ID model. So I got the higher capacity with Touch ID model. I think that was especially Touch ID. I think that was a good move because I... I was, ended up being kind of happy about it because Touch ID is pretty sweet. I have not only ended up missing Touch ID just because it's like convenient and nice. But I've noticed that there are some software flows that Apple or their software partners don't seem to have factored in for devices that don't have Touch ID.
24:19So you'll like get prompted to do Touch ID and like I don't have one. And it's not like if you search in settings for like Touch ID, it doesn't just tell you you don't have Touch ID. like it just interesting if you don't understand that you ordered one that doesn't have touch id okay sorry that could be confusing to to like an average user so speaking of confusing to an average user we we didn't know that the so that the touch id see how yours has like a power button or a lock button or whatever it is on that key on the touch id one there's no logo oh right because it's a fingerprint sensor so we were trying to have her to touch id and she would press it in like why the heck does the computer keep going to sleep like trying to do basically anything and the computer keeps just shutting itself down we're like what is happening why is this thing so buggy and then yeah no it's we were pressing the power button that makes sense what i was gonna say oh yeah man the best way experience dude I walk right in, tell them exactly what I want.
25:28And they're like, okay, I'll get it from the back. I'll meet you here in a couple minutes. Okay, sounds good. Goes and gets it from the back. Like, can I tell you about our service plan thing? And I was like, I mean, yeah, but I'm not getting it. And he was like, okay. And he pitched it to me. He was like, worse than I even thought. Because now it's a subscription instead of a one-time buy. And he keeps going through the details. And I'm like, literally just sitting on my phone. Like, I'm not buying this. And it goes on for so long. And every once in a while, I look up for my phone. And he's like, oh, yeah, you can bring it into Geek Squad anytime.
26:02And they'll repair it for you. And I'm like, you guys just ship it off, right? And he's like, what? I was like, you're repairing it through a depot. You're not repairing it here, right? And he's like, yeah, but we give you, like, a loaner laptop while yours is out for repair. And I'm just like, wow, that sounds bad. Like, okay, back to my phone. And it was, like, a long time. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, let him do his job. No, I did. Yeah. You know, no disrespect to the guy. You got to do what you got to do. But product service plans, eh. Yeah. Especially on... Yeah, I don't know. So to address the availability shortfall, Apple is reportedly considering asking TSMC to restart A18 Pro production, which is wild.
26:45But TSMC is apparently already maxed out on its 3-nanometer process. So other options that Apple is rumored to be considering are dropping the base model entirely and only selling the higher-end model to hopefully slow down sales. That's not going to do much. Even at$700, it's an incredible value. Or accelerating the release timeline of the MacBook Neo 2 with A19 Pro Silicon. Interestingly, the MacBook Air M5 is readily available, but that's probably because it starts at nearly double the price of the cheapest Neo. So it's not exactly filling the same niche. the neo is kind of eating apple's own lunch but that's what that's what hungry companies do they eat their own lunch they compete with themselves if if a series silicon ultimately makes the lowest end m silicon kind of redundant in the lineup so what that's fine great no problem that sounds fantastic apple like they're gonna get serious market share for mac os if if they can keep up This thing destroys.
27:49There is no other option that would have been even close to as good for the person. Well, I think it's pretty clear. I bought it for my mom. But I think there was no other option for her that would have even competed. One thing that has been kind of nice is on a hunch, I thought it might have been better for her because she adapted to iPhone a lot easier than she adapted to Android. iOS and macOS have so little in common that it's kind of shocking to me they come from the same company. but widgets on the desktop i was off like working on something else for a second and she just like set up a ton of widgets for herself and kind of like organize her desktop the way that she wanted i was like okay cool that wouldn't have been natural to me at all um and there was one of her apps where the like native app support for mac os is kind of crap but uh when you click on the widget it just launches um i don't know what it's actually called but it just launches like her phone on her mac yeah screen mirroring yeah and it just launches that up and then she just uses the phone version of the app and it's totally fine it's like okay she figured out all of that on her own sweet so that that part kind of worked there are a couple things about mac os that weren't entirely intuitive but we ended up figuring it out um and then just the laptop itself like dude if you if you hand this to either of us three months ago or whatever and ask how much it costs minimum minimum and probably more than that yeah like got him damn okay but here's a funny one dan roll the clip
29:33if i had a nickel for every time this has happened to me
29:40I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's funny it's happened twice how dude
29:52how is that even possible I don't know how do you do this I don't do anything
30:06oh my god oh man i don't know how to deal with this anymore it's like i i have this reputation i feel for like being a hater you know like complaining that everything's a buggy piece of shit. I'm so legitimately happy that it's working great for you. But it doesn't change my experience. That's so funny. We even installed Steam. I'm sure you did. Ah, man. That's really funny. SofaTuck says, thank you for getting footage. I have pretty good footage. it's not on this phone but i have pretty good footage of my screen on my uh my folding phone registering clicks offset by about a centimeter as well like regularly like dude i just i get i get so much weird i get so much weird stuff here's a fun one and um someone i know uh pulled up their samsung was it a samsung oh i don't know if it was actually a samsung but it was a definitely a folding phone and um compared oh okay ltd store we have new stuff uh we'll get to that in a second first let's uh click on one of these products uh oh what you click so aggressively sorry there you go i get duplicates of our product photos on our site and his folding phone didn't get it that's strange i don't i don't understand i don't know how to deal with this stuff that might not be a problem for long i don't know if you want to announce that or not but i'll just leave announce what i don't know i don't know sure go for it i don't know the new site oh yeah yeah yeah so there's a new ltd store site yeah yeah yeah i think we've i think we've talked about that okay i have no idea um yeah in like semi-classic fashion development on the old site is not super attractive right now.
32:11Oh, I get it. I get it. It is what it is. Anyway, we can move on to another topic. You want to pick one? Sure. I want to talk about this Steam one, dude. This is so sick. Steam client files point to frame rate estimator feature in the works. Data miners were sifting through a recent Steam client file release, and they uncovered references to a new feature called the frame rate estimator, which would let you pick a game, input your CPU, GPU and RAM, I also suspect eventually, if you do the hardware survey, it will just already have that information. Your OS, your display resolution. Yeah, if you do the hardware thing, yeah.
32:51And you can get a chart of expected frame rates based on crowdsourced data from other Steam users running similar hardware. The groundwork appears to have been laid two months ago when Valve added an opt-in option in the Steam beta client that let users share anonymized frame rate data initially focused on steam os devices like the steam deck um at the time valve said that the data was meant to improve game compatibility and steam performance valve is not officially valve has not officially announced the feature confirmed a release timeline or really anything at all um but yeah it exists as unreleased code and it sounds awesome to me this would legitimately okay i was about to say in a vendor agnostic fashion but it's not it's not vendor agnostic it's it's steam but they actually technically very specifically now have their own operating system which really throws that but for me this would pretty much address the problem of you know minimum requirements and what graphics card should i get and what cpu should i get to play this game this is amazing should i should i buy this and i don't know i i'd like to think that maybe this had something to do with some of the feedback that i gave valve a little while ago on the steam hardware survey it's been about a year so they've legitimately had time but basically i said hey guys i love the hardware survey it's really cool but there are some aspects of it that are kind of antiquated now if the goal is for developers to understand what hardware they should be targeting and if the other goal is for users to understand what kind of performance they can expect then only reporting things like the number of cores the frequency that they run at and i believe it even does it cap at quad core or I don't even think it will, don't quote me on that.
34:50The granularity is fairly limited from what I remember for core count. And then especially frequency. What I pointed out to them is I gave them examples of CPUs that were released 10 years apart that have the same core count and the same frequency, but vastly different performance. And kind of laid out why we need a little bit better granularity with respect to the generation of the hardware that we're looking at. And that would be beneficial to everybody, users, game developers, realistically, Valve themselves, and, selfishly, media, who, you know, we will often lean on Steam Hardware Survey data in order to bring the most relevant content.
35:36Like, I don't remember a single GPU review scrum that hasn't involved pulling up the Steam Hardware Survey at some point. just to have the right reference points. Like, oh, okay, you know, blah, blah, blah. Let's do this, this, this, and this. Holy crap, 6 % of people on Steam are running a 3060. We should throw that in just for context so that 5 % of the people watching can go, oh, this is how it compares to exactly my GPU right now. That's really important to us. And so I'd like to think that they took that seriously. realistically valve has very smart people working there and i'm sure somebody thought of it but you know what i'm gonna give myself 0.1 of the credit you think can i get away with that i don't know we'll see if it happens maybe that that credit will have some value 0.1 percent one one thousandth can i get away with it i don't know i can't guarantee anything uh i'm looking here and yeah for cpus specifically it's still kind of yeah yep this is not 3.7 gigahertz and above really and no we do have exact core count so that is useful but the frequency is a is a major issue in my humble opinion 2.7 percent of users with 24 cores for uh but i believe that's uh logical so that would be 12 core CPUs, if I recall correctly.
37:04Check 32. It says physical CPUs. Oh, is that physical? Oh, okay. So those would be Threadrippers then, yeah. Really? 3.74 % of users are Threadrippers? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. No, that would be Intel 24 cores. Yep, that's Intel. So that would be like 14900Ks and stuff. Oh. Yeah, 8 performance cores, 16 efficiency cores. Yep. Oh. See, but even that. Bundling in efficiency cores with physical exactly there's just there's so much more granularity gives me the ick that that we could use to make more informed decisions either way i am i am excited to see valve build out their tools beyond just their one their one console for the benefit of all pc gamers that are using the steam platform do you need me to go back to your laptop well i was interested this is this is certainly too old but i'm really interested what happens to the OS X numbers in the near future.
38:04I just think it's funny. They still call it OS X. I don't think it's been called OS X for like a thousand years. Sure. But I like the search. Oh man. Okay. I want to look this up. Google search history for like running games on Mac. Because these are selling like freaking crazy and they can run a ton of stuff. Like it can run Cyberpunk. I was looking up for my dad to see if it could and it can run SnowRunner. Like it can actually run a lot of different random Steam games. It can run Cyberpunk. I played it today. It's not a great experience on it. 15 to 30? Yeah. That's pretty good. It's good for what it is.
38:43All things considered, yeah. It's good for what it is. Hold on. I'm going to go worldwide. Last, I don't know. Sure. 2004 to present. Here we go. Damn. Oh. wait for it wait for it ready Dan dang this is what I'm saying man yep dang so like it's like these laptops matter they're making they're making a huge impact right now and that's going to apply to gamers which is actually really really interesting for the overall like because when I'm looking at it now for March 2026 Windows saw a 4.28 % drop in user share and the vast majority of that went to Linux but 1.2 % of that went to Mac and then we have these laptops coming out and there's the Linux surge seems to be continuing.
39:41I see threads about it constantly talking about how people, wow, I haven't used this in a few years. I gave it a shot for whatever reason. Maybe it was us, maybe it was something else and it's working right now. Tons of trends about that and then also these laptops are moving like crazy and Windows is getting, Windows at least for gamers is getting hit on both sides. I think there's a chance that Windows falls below 90 % of the install base for Steam. This year? Yeah. Do you think it could happen this year? For sure. I think if Apple had an unlimited... It might happen in the next couple months.
40:09If they had an unlimited supply of A18 Pros, I would say yes, I agree 100%. Yeah. If they only have six, seven million of them, then I'm not as sure. I'm not as sure. But that is wild that Windows might be less than 90 % of market share for Steam. Wait, are they going to fall behind like NVIDIA? I'm going to be writing a video next week that tentatively is titled The Humiliation of Microsoft Windows. Or Windows's Year of Humiliation. Or something along those lines. It might not be the year of the, this is not a title, but it might not be the year of the Linux desktop, but it definitely is the year of Windows humiliation.
40:56Yeah. And just kind of talking through how tenuous, how dominant their market share still is, and yet how tenuous their position is becoming, if that makes sense. And I'm going to kind of talk through some of the overall trends that we're observing, both in the Linux world and the Mac world, and simultaneously amongst Windows users who are just so tired of it, you know? Yeah. It's exhausting. uh why don't we jump into uh why don't we pick a good news topic hey that's any topic nintendo in a shockingly pro-consumer move like i did wow um has divorced digital and physical game pricing um the complete quote is from a GamesRadar article and this is a quote.
41:59My guess is that this is actually them lowering prices of digital games and not raising the price of physical games. That's where I'm at with this. I think generally no, I don't agree with this part. Nintendo tries to do right by their customers and I think they do also disagree with that. I look at this as a pro-consumer move. I think it's a smart move too. But it does appear to be that Nintendo will be decoupling physical and digital pricing. We don't know that this means that digital pricing is going to go down and all the pricing is going to stay the same. We don't know that. That is just an assumption.
42:32It could be that hardware, that physical game pricing will go up. But given that they already increased pricing for the Switch 2 generation, given that they've allegedly cut production of the Switch 2, my guess is that they're looking at their business going, I'm going, okay, we've got some good titles for Switch 2. They're very expensive. How can we address this in a way that isn't a price drop, that doesn't devalue our software, which Nintendo never wants to do? But that's kind of what I'm saying, is it would be a price drop. But only on the digital copy. So to me, the way that I'm reading this, and maybe this is hopeful.
43:20Good news, April Wandshow, Linus, reading it this way but the way that i'm reading this is that nintendo is going to be the first to blink and go all right digital is cheaper and i'm here for it or maybe not maybe not the maybe not the first to blink i mean there's certainly no doubt that you can buy a playstation game on sale on the you know playstation store for cheaper than a physical copy at you know game stop or whatever i mean it is pretty cool but nintendo for the first time going okay yeah it's it's cheaper online yeah and it always should have been probably i mean i think there was maybe an argument in the early days of steam that this infrastructure was so new and the investment in it was so colossal and the value free and the value of cloud save and the the convenience of just downloading it whenever you know maybe there was an argument to be made at that time but i think in the years after that it's been pretty hard to justify the price being the same for a digital copy of a brand new title versus a physical copy yeah you can't you can't completely remove all the cost of making the physical copy because there is expense in keeping the infrastructure up of distributing digital copies and stuff like that, but, like, man, they are not even sort of close.
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44:45Aromine actually brings up another kind of, I don't know about good news, but certainly funny news. Nintendo lost the patent covering character summoning and battle mechanics. Did you see that? Like, the Pokeball patent? And No Man's Sky apparently immediately added the mechanic to the game. They did, yeah. Yeah. Look, my relationship with Nintendo as a brand is deeply complicated. There's so many things they do. I don't like you and I'll also buy everything you make. That if they were anyone but them, I would just patently, pun intended, refuse to buy anything from them. But on the other hand, I don't know of anyone who so lovingly cares for their IPs.
45:37with that said i haven't seen the new mario movie yet um many of the reviews i've read of it were very negative however however however i did my due diligence and i went back and read the same people's reviews of the first one and they were also negative which to me is just an indication that they're probably not a lot of fun at parties yeah and the kind of people that suck the life out of the room because the first one was just fun not everything has to be that deep man maybe i just need an excuse to eat popcorn and if as long as the second one is a good excuse to eat popcorn i think i'm going to be pretty happy with it nice all right i want to go see a movie in theaters for the first time in many years i want to go see hail mary oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i want to see that too there's actually there's quite a few uh kind of interesting movies right now my son really wants to see goat i have no idea sports movie but like animated with a with a goat like greatest of all time but also a goat i know i put that together yeah oh my god is it like this generation's air bud i don't know exactly what it is but he's excited about it which uh you know is cool i guess
46:54who's it done by um sony pictures animation man where the heck is disney yeah like all these other it's anyway sorry we can move on to something else but that's we can talk about netflix here's a fun one netflix get owned luke and i have talked about this extensively on the wan show we've taken what i feel is not necessarily it shouldn't be an exceptional approach to the subscription fees on float plane whatever you agree to when you sign up is our agreement and while technically for some reason platforms are within their rights to alter the deal pray i don't alter it any further we've never taken that approach and it looks like netflix was just informed that in italy you're supposed to do it the float plane way unless you explicitly say that you have the right to do it your way an italian court in rome has ruled that netflix's subscription price increases between get this 2017 to 2024 over a span of seven years were illegal under the country's consumer code which requires companies to provide a stated justified reason before raising prices Netflix now has 90 days to notify its roughly 5.4 million Italian subscribers of their right to a refund or face a 700 euro daily fine.
48:32Lawyers for the consumer group Movimento Consumatorio, sorry I'm sure I butchered that, estimate that premium subscribers who have been paying since 2017 are entitled to roughly 500 euros each. Whoa! while standard subscribers are owed about 250 euros that's that's like that's like tidy little tax return territory yeah like that's not that's that's not pocket change that's freaking crazy that's go get yourself something nice if every eligible unfortunately if every eligible subscriber claims this netflix's total liability could exceed 2.3 billion dollars on top of the refunds the court ordered netflix to roll monthly prices back to the 2015 launch levels.
49:1911.99 euros for premium, 9.99 euro for standard. Sounds like a lot of people are going to be VPNing to Italy. Netflix says it will appeal and insists that its terms have always complied with Italian law, but the ruling could have a knock-on effect across Europe. Consumer groups in Germany, Spain, the Netherlands, and Poland have filed parallel challenges on the same legal basis, and German courts in Berlin and Cologne have already struck down the same Netflix pricing clauses. Now, it is worth noting that Netflix has updated their terms of service now, and any price changes that they implement going forward will be legal, from my understanding of it.
49:58That's not in our notes, but that is my understanding of it from just my own reading before. But this is still a pretty nice little, yeah, a nice little W for consumers in Italy who are tired of, you know, getting squeezed on every freaking stupid subscription service under the sun, just casually, casually raising prices all the time. It's good news, WAN shows. So this isn't one of the topics for this week, but YouTube had a premium subscription increase that, you know, just, I don't know, it's that premium subscription increase. Like last time, they say it's to improve the service. And like last time, it seems to be more aligned with just general inflation and less aligned with any kind of meaningful improvement in the service.
50:47So make of that whatever you will. I still, even at the new price, I still think YouTube Premium is one of the best bang for the buck subscriptions out there. YouTube is full of incredible content. I'd like to think like you're watching right now. I use it so much that it's worth it to me still. And the fact that it includes YouTube Music, which I find to be a perfectly cromulent music streaming service. it's fine and the fact that you can get it on a family plan for a deep discount and share it with up to five family members it's just it's it's a great it's a great value it's an outstanding value all right you want to pick one oh wait nope uh oh i'm good oh oh oh guys guys that uh pull up the store right um we have a very exciting launch on ltt store this weekend it is the flex and flow collection the first item from this collection is our multi-pocket leggings they're finally here we started development of ltt um i don't want to call them yoga pants but they're yoga pants ltt leggings like i don't know three years ago or something like that.
52:04I am constantly reminded of this project because Yvonne loves her prototype one so much that I fold them every week, even though we never actually made the product. So you're going to get more now? They're just like the leggings that, you know, you could get at one of the other stores that sell these leggings. Let's be real, right? Except they've got seven total pockets. two on the thighs for your phone and five in the waistband for your smaller stuff so you can actually carry your things without needing a bag the fabric is soft breathable and moisture wicking with lycra spandex for great stretch and shape retention so you can wear them for workouts errands or just all day people in the office have been really excited about these and they've already been wearing them to pilates tennis and just around the house you can now get yours at lmg.gg slash leggings.
53:00And I'm going to take a moment to kind of go, hey, are women viewers out there? We hear you loud and clear. You've been disappointed with the assortment of women's products on LTT store. Here's your chance to help us invest in this category. This is a great product whether you wear leggings or not spread the word or wait wait for a few reviews to come in and then spread the word it's a really good product it is i would say up to or at the top of our game in terms of how quality this product is um if you want to see more women's products you're going to have to buy some there's also i saw people in full chat earlier asking about like oh i fit uh whatever size from whatever brand yes um will i fit these ones there is a size guide so um right here some people don't see it because it's just like hyperlink text but under the sizes on pretty much every product on the store there's a size guide you can click it and it will be yeah a lot of like the the pictures and stuff are generic but this grid will be for the specific product so you can see your inseam length your hip width your your pants blah blah waist relaxed whatever something and all your sizes that go along with that yep very important all right these ones are for the guys these are great the flex pants they're kind of inspired by like mountain biking pants so they are built to move we've got reinforced knees a gusseted fit and a stretchy waistband with a do not drop draw cord that can be tied on the outside or the inside and they've also got seven pockets six with ykk zippers so you can carry basically everything and not worry about anything falling out they're really comfortable they uh in like a weird way like they're not soft they're like um sheer oh here right i don't really know how to describe them they're like oh interesting yeah and they're on the inside they're like uh i don't know i don't know how to describe them i can see that being nice but i understand what you mean by that being a little bit yeah so kind of like um kind of like some of the french terry hoodies like they're they're soft but they don't sit like right on your skin so they're not super warming not like terry at all though i don't want someone to hear that and get the the wrong The effect is like that, where it kind of holds off your skin a little bit, so it makes it feel more breathable, but still not cold.
55:44It's still, you know, I don't know. It's a really cool garment. Sure. Do they fit you? I don't think they would. These are small. No, the inseam length on all of them is 29. Sorry, these are not in tall. Yeah. It's pretty normal to have a 32. But okay. all right so those are those are pretty exciting new products uh and now's a great time to order one because if you're new to the when show then i'm about to explain the coolest thing about the it's not the coolest thing but it's a cool thing about the when show instead of like other streams just throwing your money at the screen and like i don't know hoping senpai notices you or something We don't do Twitch bits or super chats or anything like that.
56:32We do checkout messages. So if you want to send a message, all you got to do is head to LTTstore.com, add something to your cart, and when we are live, you will see the interface to send a checkout message. You pick your color, you fill in your checkout message, you can be anonymous or show your first and last name. And once you place your order, it will either go up there, it'll just pop up like, thanks richie p over there um oh no it'll go to producer dan who will pop it up like that reply to it or curate it for me and luke to respond to should we do a couple curated ones to show the folks how it works yeah sure i got lots here already thanks for enabling my wife to get some high quality active wear as for my question what's the worst part of dealing with asbestos removal the price besides the price was that in the checkout message
57:26yeah i thought that's why you jumped in with that no the worst part is the price nothing worse uh well it's not the asbestos getting into your lungs and giving a mess of well that's the thing is i didn't do that i paid someone to do it so the worst part is the price i mean i'd say my bigger concern when i was crawling around in the basement was like mold not asbestos like if i if i end up with some kind of weird mold lung disease or something like that it's definitely from doing that but i don't think there was really anything in the way of asbestos down there yeah and i didn't really disturb anything like i didn't i didn't break any i didn't like touch any caulking or like uh break any uh like like um uh break any materials apart or anything i just like hauled like soggy carpet and stuff out of there okay up next just finished a computer vision project for school.
58:19What is a project that felt super rewarding after completing? Ooh. I have a pretty critical version of that, which is the mineral oil computer. That thing got me everything. It got me grants to go to school. It got me friends when I was at school. And it got me this job. That was a highly rewarding project. Nice. Really worked out. Yeah, that's... I'm not going to be able to beat that. Hiring Luke. Yeah. Is that a present project? Let's go for the feels. It was a long interview. It was a very long interview. Yeah, that's true. A project that felt super rewarding. You know what? I'm not going to go with the most rewarding, but I'll go with one that was quite rewarding recently.
59:12um i bought a couple of rc cars for me and my son back when he was well it was like 10 years ago so he was just little and i was i was probably jumping the gun a little bit we didn't use them much and they sat for 10 years and in that time all the differential fluid leaked out all the shock oil leaked out um the batteries like died died like not just were were drained they they died and there were some broken parts on them from the little that they were used because I was reckless and he didn't know really how to control it because he was just a little kid. And over the last few weekends, we've worked together.
59:49We learned how to strip apart, reseal and fill a diff on an RC car. We fixed up the shocks. We replaced a bunch of like broken pieces. And then with everything repaired, We went out, made like a makeshift ramp, and we're playing around with it last weekend. It was super cool. After two races around the yard, I crossed the pool cover with some water pooled on it, burned my motor. So we're not quite there on the reward on this project yet, but we're getting there. We're getting there because it was really fun. I think you're working on it, though, because you're working on repairing it with your son, which is like so valuable.
1:00:33yeah he's learning a little bit really cool um we we had to 3d we had to make like design and print some 3d printed parts in order to finish the repair because it was like did he like leave that portion yeah that's kind of cool oh yeah i i got to show him how to use calipers you know just i don't just father son stuff you know yeah that's sweet yeah it's good stuff it's good stuff i like that should we do one more down oh no we're not we're doing two more topics do one more if you want nope i don't want to we'll do it later good bye hey let's talk about l 'année de linux the french government is apparently accelerating plans to reduce reliance on extra european software in an effort to achieve digital sovereignty and when i say extra european i don't mean super duper european i mean outside of european like like extracurricular that like that sort of extra workstations at dinum d-i-n-u-m the french government's digital agency will be the first to be moved to an as yet unnamed linux distribution my notes say insert holy war here yeah and other departments including the national cyber security agency will be following suit okay all right let's start it i already okay hold on i know my answer i know my answer hold on hold on um
1:02:02hold on hold on um I'm gonna go with um
1:02:15okay go ahead
1:02:24hold on hold on Mandriva I think that was it Mandriva Mandriva I don't know how to pronounce it I looked at I looked up I was looking up distros before the show I was like are there distros that are either popular in France or largely maintained by French maintainers that's hacking you can't search stuff I had to just guess all right fine well I don't know I could still definitely be wrong I have no clue I think I think they're going to be based, and they're actually going to roll their own. They wouldn't be the first government to do that, and I think it's going to be based on Arch. Mandrivas, or Magia or something?
1:03:01Can you just show me this word? No. What is this? Oh. M-A-G-E-I-A. I'm not any closer than you. Magia? Sure. Something? I don't know. I read something. Yeah, that's the successor, whatever. I don't know. Classic Linux stuff. it's not Manjaro. No, I can, I can say that. Um, I have no idea what it'll be. If you look at user base installs, it's very likely that it will be, you know, Debian based or arch based. People are suggesting names for a French government own role. Linux distro. We've got baguette OS. We've got, um, distro of Liberty, Linux, Arche de Triomphe. We've got Distro de Liberté. Bestie OS.
1:03:55That's pretty good. That one's pretty good. I like that. I'm liking a lot of these. I'm liking a lot of these. Le Bonne Tour.
1:04:06That was pretty good.
1:04:11Oh, man. Oh, man. That's fun. Yeah, I kind of hope. I wouldn't mind Sacre Boone 2.
1:04:23I hope they don't roll their own, or if they do roll their own, I hope there's a lot of up-the-chain development that happens. It's just, man, we don't need more fragmentation. Oh, my God. No, we don't need it, but it just seems like the kind of thing that would happen. If you look at the Steam Hardware survey, in regards to distros that are like on the more simple and easy side of things mint has a lot of install base i don't suspect they're going to end up going there my my guess would be is that they don't end up on mint um but we'll see i could see red hat something like there's something something with actual red hat fedora like real support grunt behind it totally yeah that would that would probably make the the most sense something along that line uh being said by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about but still red hat is american though that might be fair i'm not sure if it matters as much i don't think it matters as much but there's still a company behind it and that company's in the states right zuse is an open is zuse is uh is is a more european centric and still very well supported and storied distro as well that could get it yeah i think there i think the origin there is german uh don't definitely get it though that's interesting i don't know but it's exciting and there's there is a question here uh we've seen similar programs elsewhere in europe with the city of munich's uh limux uh project running from 2003 to 2017 before they ultimately decided to reverse course do you think france's efforts will be successful and I think they actually could be um the the difference between I know I've said this probably every WAN show for a month but the difference between the last time we did the Linux challenge and now is genuinely mind-blowing astronomical whoa Linux Mint has a French founder really someone in chat just said it I don't know if it's true or not But someone in the chat just said it if that's true if there's a chance that it's mint that would be so sick You are actually rooting for distros like a Linux now.
1:06:41No, I'd just be happy I you clapped You clapped that is the definition happy little clap. That is the definition. I'm happy I'm genuinely happy with whatever they go with I don't actually care, but it would be neat if it was mint i just i i i'm not a i'm not a hater of other choices but i i get a little happy when when people use mint because mint is cool speaking of linux patches to the linux kernel and kde should give a noticeable performance boost to gamers with limited vram which so sick 2026 apparently includes cards that have only eight gigabytes of dedicated memory and that really has been a trend over the last couple of years developer natalie valk has refined kernel level memory management and introduced a kde plasma component to enable vram prioritization for the foreground application i.e your full screen game the patches are out now initially for amd and theoretically intel uh on cache os and on other arch-based distros if you don't use kde as your desktop the improvements are also available in newer versions of valve's game scope compositor if you're after the technical details you can check out the developer's blog post which um
1:08:03dan will not be posting in chat so you'll just have to go Google Pixel Clusters GPU blog. I can post it in float plane chat at least. Thank you, Luke. That's wonderful. I appreciate you. Excellent. It says two more topics and we're through two more, but until he comes back, we're not... Oh, you know what? Yeah, we'll do sponsor spots. Oh, wait, I can't. I can't without Dan. I did have some people ask, like, oh, why are you so happy about Mint if you're running Cashi? I'm running Cashi on my desktop PC for the modern... Cache-y and KDE on my desktop PC for modern features and performance and power and raw.
1:08:40And I'm running Mint on my laptop for simplicity and stability and work every time-ness. And that's why I would expect a government to go more on the Mint side than a Cache-y side. But I do think there's plenty of other solutions that would make a ton of sense. Fedora, Red Hat, things like that being among them. Maybe not Red Hat again because the American company thing and that being like the whole goal of what they're trying to get away from. I don't think it's the same as using Windows, but they'll probably still not go that route. I've got a micro topic. This one isn't so much good news as it is hilarious.
1:09:14Redditor underscore underscore Erty underscore underscore posted a couple of screenshots showing an AI summary with some facts about the company that acquired us nine days ago. on April the 1st, FOMO Foundry. This is great.
1:09:43So apparently my browser thinks that FOMO Foundry is a real thing. FOMO Foundry is an entity that acquired Linus Media Group in April 2026, pivoting the tech media company toward a product-first strategy that replaced its writing and engineering departments with AI tools like ChatGPT and proprietary large language models. Following the acquisition, LMG launched the Linus coin, a physical token minted from defective screwdriver parts, which serves as a digital credit with a 2-to-1 redemption rate to maintain financial solvency. How could anything be so accurate and yet so fundamentally wrong?
1:10:26yeah we did it we did it reddit we did it we bamboozled uh what is this is this uh is this gemini then yeah it looks like gemini to me what's goggles is this i just don't want to get this wrong what is goggles i don't know yeah my browser thing so this is it's some llm somewhere um so what's What seems to have happened here is that DNS records indicate that FOMO-Foundry.com was registered March 17th of this year. So it's possible that the AI is conflating that network OS with our new corporate overlords. Or it's also possible that it just ain't that deep and it's easily confused. um if you're wondering by the way we did register fomo foundry dot ai it's not gemini yeah so it's it's something we bamboozled something so we did register fomo foundry dot ai but um you'll have to try it for yourself to see where it goes we worked on that for a while it's pretty good i actually i i think the developers who worked on that aspect of the april fool's joke are the unsung heroes of this whole endeavor so it was like actually a lot of effort and so few people went to it and like won't necessarily have legs but we worked on it for a while i know it's a good team and like to be clear the the physical merchandise team they did a lot of work getting the coin design did a lot of work getting the coin going the video production guys they did a lot of work make bringing the whole video together um elijah died for this project so that's true That was unfortunate, but...
1:12:15That still might not equal the effort. But FOMOFoundry.ai, I think, was more effort than all of those things combined. Like, Elijah's parents raising him for over 20 years, I still don't think equaled how hard the developers worked on FOMOFoundry.ai. Yeah. Yeah. But they'll be remembered by us. I mean I'm never gonna give them up yeah or let them down no okay Skoda develops a bike bell that can bypass speaking of bells that can bypass noise cancelling headphones and then gives the technology away for free which is awesome this is so bass this is so cool it sounds really cool too Skoda has developed the duo bell a bicycle bell engineered to cut through active noise cancelling headphones which is a major problem right now because tons of people have them they've become very normal uh in collaboration with researchers at the university of salford the car company points to a 24 rise in bike pedestrian collisions in 2024 partially blamed on the explosion of anc headphones drowning out traditional bells.
1:13:34Researchers found a narrow safety gap between 750 and 780 hertz, where ANC algorithms struggle to suppress sound. So the bell rings at that exact pitch. It's a range, but whatever. A second resonator at a higher frequency keeps it sounding like a normal bike bell, and an irregular striking mechanism produces sharp sound bursts that ANC processing can't really react to in time. The whole thing is fully mechanical with zero electronics. That's the coolest part. That's so cool. Also just so awesome. And in real world tests with Deliveroo couriers in London, which I'm assuming is like... I don't know, like Uber Eats or something.
1:14:22Yeah. I actually don't know. Pedestrians with ANC headphones detected the Duo Bell from up to 22 meters further away than a normal bell. That's awesome. giving cyclists a critical extra reaction window and a pretty decent one go to 22 meters in the context of like traffic movement that's that's awesome that's huge that's life absolutely yeah that's so cool skoda okay thank you cool uh neat uh skoda is publishing all the research and findings publicly for free so other manufacturers can build their own versions fitting given that skoda actually started out making bicycles 130 years ago before it ever built a car that is so cool our discussion question is when's the last time a car company did something this genuinely useful for cyclists and pedestrians without trying to lock it behind a patent uh i can't think of anything there's gotta be something at some point but yeah i have no idea What this reminded me of was the seatbelt.
1:15:29Wasn't the seatbelt something like this? Somebody invented it and then made it free for everybody? Yeah. But I don't know if that helps pedestrians. You know what? That's pretty based. Volvo and seatbelts? Yeah, that was very cool. No, I'm down with it. You know what? Let's go shout out Volvo then. Yeah. I mean, to the extent that the original Volvo even still exists as a car manufacturer. I'm just saying. Who knows? I'm just saying. well no like they're they're owned by uh who owns volvo yeah geely i mean everybody's as far as i can tell basically everybody's been sold to somebody since back then no at all uh vw is still vw they're out there ford still ford for better or for worse that's something uh you know what else is something is uh our sponsor vessi yeah the weather's looking a little nicer out there, isn't it?
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1:19:00flow plane announcement we let mr david pancratz vlog what his week at lmg is like huh if you've watched any ltd videos in the last six to seven months david has been an unsung hero in probably at least one of them as he has been really helping out the writers in their push to getting especially some of the more technical aspects of things over the line this week's float plane exclusive has him building a pc for red bull showcasing uh scripts for setting up our pcs and being part of the do writers at ltt all think the same video you can go check that out at lmg.gg slash fp wan let's see what people are thinking of this video so far uh yeah there people are people are liking it pretty cool he um he is a wearer of many many many hats all right more topics uh yeah there's uh one i want to jump into sure uh where'd it go it's on the dock so samsung electronics fires first shot in departure from arm develops proprietary ssd controller based on open source RISC-V.
1:20:20It's happening. More RISC news. It's happening. RISC is good. Samsung is launching its BM9K1. Cool. SSD lineup with a custom in-house controller chip built on the open source RISC-V architecture, marking the first time Samsung has shipped a commercial product using RISC-V instead of ARM. The move lets Samsung skip ARM's licensing fees and customize the chip however it wants, which is especially relevant given ARM's recent legal fight with Qualcomm over chip design changes. Samsung says the new design is 1.6 times faster. That does not mean your SSD will be 1.6 times faster, to be clear. But still, that's very cool.
1:21:04And 23 % more energy efficient. That does not mean your entire SSD will be 23 % more energy efficient, but it's still cool, than the previous generation. Samsung is following Western Digital, which has been using its own RISC-V chips in SSD controllers for years. And Samsung has played around with RISC-V and other projects since 2019, but never shipped anything until now. The BM9K1 is set to launch in 2027, and that is awesome, because any commercial products that ship with RISC on them just makes it more normal. To be clear, ARM is also RISC, but he means RISC-V. Yeah. Yeah. I have a theory it's just a theory that's not trademarked and he's retired nope he's retired a computer theory?
1:21:52sure a computer theory I have a computer theory I have a theory that as long as the transition took between x86 and ARM or not even transition because they're very much still coexisting today but as long as that took I think Risk 5's rise will be at most a third of the amount of time we're going towards a very interesting future because with the like mind share divestment that's happening from Microsoft and Windows right now of people interested in Mac and people interested in Linux and just kind of moving off of that and hardware just getting a little funky like pricing has been really crazy a lot of Chinese manufacturers are starting to kind of prop up and look at that consumer market and go we might be able to take some of that especially if pricing is going to be 2 ,000 higher than it used to be companies like more and more companies I'm finding discussions about risk five to be much more common these days than it was even three four years ago um there's you know google making their own stuff intel interested in being a fab potentially more than even their own like speaking of intel i had this queued up already i don't give financial advice on this show but if you bought intel when i said that i thought it was looking kind of cool and laid out all the reasons I thought it was kind of cool in the medium to long term.
1:23:33You're doing pretty good so far.
1:23:37I don't know, man. It's real tempting sometimes when I can just kind of like see the tea leaves and I'm like, this is the direction. Me being invested in Intel would be pretty bad, though. That would be pretty bad. anyway yeah yeah so it's like it's interesting a lot of things are moving towards like actually genuinely moving towards open source setups for things which is very based interesting it's cool I don't know what that future necessarily looks like probably a lot of fragmentation but I think it'll be fun I'm excited okay next topic stay the path says yeah that'd almost be as bad as like the president of the united states shilling a ticker or like a crypto or nft or something you know what you're right i think that um if it's their own name i think they have to that would never happen yeah yeah that's that's pretty far-fetched i i wouldn't want to live in a world that's so corrupt that the politicians at the highest level would shill stocks and also almost as bad youtubers would do it i don't want to live in that world almost almost as bad speaking of far-fetched apple approves drivers that let amd and nvidia e gpus run on mac okay i was so excited when i read that much of it carry on yeah it gets a little worse uh the software is designed for ai though and not built for gaming.
1:25:20Apple has officially signed off on those drivers. The drivers are developed by Tiny Corp, the company behind the Tiny Box AI accelerator, and Apple's approval means users no longer need hacky workarounds like disabling system integrity protection to get eGPUs running. This is specifically for AI workloads, not for gaming. The drivers are built for running large language models, so if you were hoping to plug a GPU into your Mac and fire up games, that's unfortunately not in the cards. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Nice. Solid. Solid. Tiny Corp first got an eGPU working on Apple Silicon back in May 2025.
1:26:01That was not me, by the way. That was the writer. Back in May 2025. But that required unofficial methods. Now, with Apple's blessing, installation is straightforward. For context, Tiny Corp sells some serious AI hardware. Their lineup ranges from a$12 ,000 box with four AMD 9070 XTs, all the way up to a$65 ,000 system running four RTX Pro 6000 Blackwell GPUs. The reason that this is in Good News Wandshow, I feel like I should explain that. It's still good. is that this is the first step sign of a potential future thaw in the frosty relationship between apple and nvidia i would love to see at some point um you know i think asking for an nvidia gpu baked onto apple silicon in a multi-die package that's probably unrealistic but i'd love to see a future where I could hook an NVIDIA eGPU up to my MacBook Neo 3 or MacBook Neo 4 and run serious games off of an iPhone CPU.
1:27:16That'd be sweet. And NVIDIA's down. We know this because they actually went and did the work and made a driver. And this was a number of years ago. And Apple intentionally blocked it from working. ever since bump gate things have been frosty between between the two but i just i feel like both of them have come so far and been so successful that you would think it would be time to bury the hatchet you know maybe yeah maybe maybe when pigs fly and you know me and Gamers Nexus make up and kiss.
1:28:03I had a segue planned for the next topic and it's gone. I have no idea what it was. I have genuinely no clue. How's that for an image in your mind?
1:28:17His hair just draping around your face. Hey, what makes you think I would be on the bottom? So many things.
1:28:32Keychron. I feel like he would, yeah. Keychron has made their keyboard and mice designs source available, allowing anyone to design or 3D print parts for their devices. This is so cool. They published a GitHub repository containing production-grade CAD files for 83 of their keyboard and mouse models. files are available in step for 3d cad work dxf for 2d plate cutting and dwg for engineering drawings meaning that owners can 3d print enclosures cnc replacement plate even in a new material like brass or carbon fiber or design their own mods without reverse engineering any of the measurements despite widespread reporting though calling this open source keychron founder nick zoo has clarified it's actually source available so personal builds hobby projects and educational use are fine but commercial use is strictly prohibited and you can't use the files to manufacture or sell competing products keychron had already published qmk and zmk firmware source for many of its boards so this adds the physical hardware dimension to an already pretty open stack.
1:29:45They are miles ahead of basically every other keyboard and mouse brand as far as this goes, who all seem to treat physical geometry as proprietary and lock it away. I got to say, this is admirable. I don't know if I would be able, I don't know if I would have the stones to follow this step. This is incredibly cool. Now, this is for discontinued products, and so I'm kind of, I'm trying to think, like, screwdriver is one that we've had people ask for the CAD for. And I think upon request, we've provided the outside dimensions. But we have never provided the drawings for the entire thing. I think if you're a manufacturing shop in wherever and you want to rip off their keyboard, I think you can take it apart and figure those things out.
1:30:36I think at deep commercial level, you could already steal it from them. So I think there's probably some amount of recognition there and them just being like, hey, the people who wanted to rip this off already could have. And we can be really cool guys to a lot of the people that just want to do good things with this. So, I mean, it sounds like a great move to me. And I don't really think they're setting themselves up for anything super horrible. No, I don't think so. I just don't know if I have the stones. It's so unconventional. and maybe someday maybe this is the first step in a move like this becoming conventional that'd be cool and um pretty sick i'll have to do some reflection on it you know maybe someday deity willing i could be this based um speaking about things that are based deer uh like john deere that deer yeah like like go yourself and i'm not i'm not not calling them based to be clear but what really just happened to them is is good and i don't know enough about this case to say that this was enough but i'm happy that something happened that they are probably not happy about uh deer settles u.s right to repair lawsuit agrees to 99 million dollar fund for farmers couldn't couldn't make it one more just make it 100 but i guess that's fine uh they they put that into a settlement fund to resolve the 2022 class action lawsuit that accused the company of monopolizing repair services and conspiring with authorized dealers to force farmers to use them for tractor and equipment fixes.
1:32:12The fund covers farmers who paid Deere or its authorized dealers for large agricultural equipment repairs dating back to January of 2018. More importantly, and this is where I got actually excited, Deere has committed to providing the digital tools, software, and manuals needed to diagnose and repair its tractors, combines, and sugarcane harvesters for the next 10 years on a license... I only read the first half! On a license or subscription basis, formalizing a memorandum that had previously existed but was never legally binding. License or subscription basis. Ah, that feels like that's going to be abused horribly.
1:32:53This is better than them having it under lock and key. Yeah. Hopefully it just gets pirated immediately. I was going to say anything that exists on a license or subscription basis exists on the high seas. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully that gets on the high seas like immediately. Deer insists the settlement comes with no admission of wrongdoing, but right to repair advocates are calling it a landmark win that could set precedence for similar cases against automakers and consumer tech companies. And hopefully it does. our discussion question is deer had to be dragged through four years of litigation and a 99 million dollar settlement to let farmers fix their own tractors how many other industries are running the same playbook oh tons of them most importantly i think is is in medicine like the fact that fixing people is also bound by these same douchebaggery moves now to be clear i'm not saying it should just be a free-for-all because when something is so important that it it keeps a person alive i am not saying that just any random schmuck should necessarily be working on it with any random schmuck parts but there's gotta be a middle ground yeah there's gotta be a middle ground yeah i can tell you from experience that aviation has some of this nonsense in it my uncle showed me a light bulb a little incandescent bulb i should bring it in i'll bring it in maybe next week if i remember but it's about this big i think i get it for aviation because if you're if you're totally average size light bulb this size um it's 20 because you can only get it from deso directly no one else is allowed to make it and it's the only one that's certified so that you can put it behind like a little illuminated switch in a dashboard it's like freaking ridiculous i just don't want people with big shiny metal objects in the sky to necessarily have an easier time when it could result in that big shiny metal object smacking into somebody and but i mean that's the oh man see that's the dangerous sort of territory that we end up in because that's the kind of justification that's given for locking things down so i'm just saying there's got to be a middle ground yeah and with something like tractors it seems pretty obvious because the only person who could be harmed by it not operating correctly is the operator of it so at least by by fixing it yourself and doing your own thing to it it's your own liability that you are ultimately creating and it's sticky because i i very much support right to prepare when it comes to cars and cars has a similar problem to the plane i think i'm just a lot less worried about protecting people who own planes than i am protecting people who own cars i think you're just worried that you know if anything bad happened to me that you'd be sad Thank you.
1:35:47I appreciate that. You know what I'm worried about, though? Is that the flat earthers are going to have a field day. With how good those photos of the solar eclipse look from Artemis II. Oh, man. They look almost too good to be real. Do you want to fire it up while I just talk through the thing? The full NASA gallery is based, so I'll go there. the artemis 2 crew took a bunch of photos of the moon during their lunar flyby and the images look like something out of asimov's foundation series so honestly even even some of the ones from inside the ship like that is such a sick photo dude wow absolutely this is about as based as a photo can be this is probably yet a moon base this is probably the coolest photo of someone taking a photo uh but okay we'll get to we'll get to real ones you can download these they are really high res fantastic background bait for for people who want to make cool stuff um some of these are just yeah wow isn't that incredible um okay that one to the right there this one no uh left left yeah I love this one.
1:37:05That is so just like OLED friendly background. Yeah. Wow. Maybe there's a little bit too much contrast along the bottom left, but still. Oh, that's so cool. There's a recreation of the iconic Earthrise photo from Apollo 8.
1:37:25It's this, yeah. Hold on. This one. They're very similar. I mean they were taking they were taking a lot of photos they were taking a lot of photos this one specifically called that is it but yeah Here's an eclipse shot Oh man So good so cool so good Oh man The moon in nighttime is visible in the background as the sun is setting on the opposite side The image captures the beginning of a total solar eclipse that astronauts were able to observe at the end of their lunar observation period Ah, it's just, it's just the, the write-ups are just exactly what was happening. And yet they sound so cool.
1:38:09Commander Reed Wiseman told Mission Control it was a surreal experience and said he'd need to invent new adjectives because no existing words could describe what they were seeing out the window. NASA has shared the full metadata for the photos to prove that they are real, unprocessed captures from the Orion capsule. they're not renders they're not composites just breathtaking photos and yet i i firmly believe i firmly believe that because they look too good someone out there will believe they are fake sponsored by blender i believe that they're real and i firmly believe that i don't care because i choose to live in a world where it is real and that is more interesting and more fun and more exciting it was um i i i made the mistake of watching a small amount of a reaction video of someone watching a stream of some flat earthers watching the launch and like talking about how they were faking it and um taking the launch like fake yeah of course just go because a rocket launch has to be fake if if the earth is you know flat and stuff you can see it from so far away and you can go not that far away dude they start talking about like how many camera angles there are and how many cuts there are to conceal like the i don't know the set or like the fakeness of it they cut that it's like you know how many you know how many camera angle cuts there are in a soccer game does that mean nobody has ever played soccer what are you even talking about like it's watching watching these people twist themselves into mental gymnastic pretzels to continue to believe something that is just so obviously not true like you can just think any of its bait i wish it was like some of it's got to be bait some of it i'm sure there's also people here's the thing that believe it if the influencers are all are 100 of them if 100 of them are grifters dude right my nasa paycheck came in sure so if 100 of the influencers in the space are grifters then if nobody actually believed it who would be following them then
1:40:42like i'm saying even if the people who are who are most active in propagating the conspiracy theory are in on it okay obviously somebody's not because they wouldn't be watching this so so i can't so i can't accept but you watched it no i watched someone making watching it to make fun of it but i think there's a lot of people that will rage watch stuff like that okay i'm gonna say something sadder um a peripheral family member oh no i ended up in like a fairly i don't know about heated but definitely firm conversation with about it at some point so that's unfortunate yeah and there was like it wasn't it wasn't like at the end of it they were like i'm just kidding like you know there there was emotion so no no i'm sorry i yeah of commitment to something so sad it's almost admirable it's just a no it's not a less interesting world it's like there's so much like i don't know if i think a flat i think a a flat like pancake thing rotating around amidst all the other round planets is pretty interesting but like also to believe that we've never made it out there and we've never learned these things we've never you know mankind never took that step like it's just it's smaller it's narrower it's uh i mean it's only a small step there's so much dark there's so much darkness and like sadness and negativity in the world very heavily right now not on the land show and there's there's these there's these moments of like human brightness that happen and to deny that it's just so sad i i that's why it's like i fully believe that it's real and even if i didn't i would want to okay this might not be a topic for when show but would you extend that logic to i do it with placebo things dragons do you choose to believe abominable snowman is real because that's more interesting i think abominable snowman is pretty interesting it's not good though that's interesting but it's not good part of this is that it's good i mean the vacuum of space is not good but it's interesting there's nothing to lead me to believe either of those things are legitimate uh okay so you want some evidence they're vaguely interesting i don't think they're anywhere even in the same stratosphere as interesting as as as this and I don't see them as good.
1:43:23So I don't think they're equivalencies. I understand what you're trying to go for. There might be other things. I think for me it's placebo. So within limits of things that you have actual any evidence for whatsoever, you choose to believe the more interesting and exciting version. And good. For now. And that's one of the... I will repeatedly tell myself that if I take a drug or a treatment for something, I will like push into my brain repeatedly like it's good that I'm taking this because it works right oh yeah and I'll like full-heartedly believe that because I'm like all right come on in some way in some way this will work so like yeah I think I do that with more than just NASA stuff but then I was I mean I've I've been I've seen a rocket take off so I don't know bro you can just go the ducks are free i don't know man in other space related news the fcc is set to supercharge satellite internet performance and potentially lower costs they just announced they'll vote on april 30th on an order to overhaul satellite spectrum sharing rules from the 1990s replacing the old equivalent power flux density framework that limits how much signal um how much signal power low-Earth orbit satellites like Starlink can use.
1:44:45FCC Chair Brendan Carr said that the change could boost capacity for space-based broadband by as much as seven times current levels using the same number of satellites. The rule change would mean faster speeds, potentially lower costs, and better service for rural and remote users, with the FCC estimating more than $2 billion in economic benefits for the U.S. alone. SpaceX, which has lobbied heavily for the change, stands to gain the most. Starlink accounts for about 65 % of all active satellites in orbit, and they have more than 10 million subscribers worldwide. The timing's pretty excellent for them right now too with the rumored IPO coming.
1:45:18Interestingly though, not everyone's on board. Geostationary satellite operators like Viasat, SES, and DirecTV opposed the change, arguing that loosening the power limits could cause interference with their existing fleets. In other NASA news, that's a fan testing video that we released this week. It took a long time, which was not great, like i think adam's trip was like a year ago but the timing ended up being really good because to the point where a lot of people thought you guys did intentionally i don't think you did definitely not there was just a lot of math and a lot of coordination and a lot of just things taken a long time and we eventually got it done uh dr lewis edelman former nasa scientist delved into the details of the fan testing equipment and methodology in an article on the LTT Labs website.
1:46:10How freaking cool is that? We have a special guest writer. Awesome. You guys are definitely going to want to head over there and read this because there's only so much that we can cover in a video format and while keeping it, you know, not a snooze fest. And you can see as I go through this clearly not all of this was in there and just because it's not a snooze via text or sorry just because it would be kind of snooze worthy in video doesn't mean that it's snooze worthy via totally it's an excellent read and you guys are going to want to check it out uh we also have another ltt labs article to promote and that is power supply turn on and turn off timings it's something that i had never thought about before and don't get scared by this because um lucas actually does a really good job breaking stuff down of explaining all these values yep and why they exist and why they matter uh which is pretty cool there's a lot more to the atx specification than just like 12 volt go burr it's really cool stuff and once you understand it more you properly appreciate just how smart the folks who design these standards are and how important they are like intel it's hilarious like intel never intel never made a power supply for you to put in your gaming rig.
1:47:49But here they are, sort of foundationally involved in the design of functionally every single one you've ever used in your lifetime, unless you're very, very old. Pretty cool stuff. Definitely worth a read as well. LTT Labs has been doing some really neat stuff over the last little while. Anyway, our discussion question is, have you ever made a really poor fan placement decision in a previous build that this video... from the collaboration with NASA would have prevented? I don't think so, but mostly because I haven't had a lot of builds that had glass in them. There are a ton of cases out there that this would have actually potentially impacted where I put my fans, but I haven't built in a lot of them.
1:48:35The only case that I've ever had that had front panel glass is the one that I currently have, and there's no fan slots there. I think for me, it's less front panel glass and it's more bottom intakes. There have been many cases that have short enough feet that their bottom intakes, now that I understand how much spacing we actually need, simply just are not intaking air efficiently. that doesn't mean that i wouldn't still put the fans there but i might not rely on them as much i might go i might opt for a different configuration of the fans in the rest of the case knowing that those ones in the bottom are not really drawing in that much air or i might run them at a lower speed knowing that they're going to be they're going to have an outsized effect on the overall noise of my system because of all that turbulence in their intake i am trying to find something sorry give me a second now it's time for turbulent message from our sponsor while he looks that up nice perfect hearing the word analytics might make your brain go into snooze mode but at the end of the year everyone loves seeing their spotify wrapped and steam replay our sponsor play tracker is an app that's built for any gamer that even remotely cares about achievements it connects to all the major gaming platforms and combines data from each into one place so your gaming stats are always together.
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1:53:25sorry one of the top comments is randomly absent memory and i just think that's really funny um they got to play with trains yeah it's cool i there's been a lot going on it's not that old a video it's only three days old it feels like i watched this weeks ago i would have said i would have said like two weeks it's been a lot going on um so i don't remember all the details super super well but it's it's a great video and i just really recommend checking it out um all right cool anyways that's it hey in other good news it's real the five terabyte google one upgrade google has bumped google ai pro subscribers from two terabytes to five terabytes of cloud storage at no extra cost with the$19.99 per month price staying the same.
1:54:08The extra space works across Gmail, Google Drive, and Google Photos. This only applies to AI Pro subscribers. Standard Google One tiers haven't changed and will start at 100 gigs for$2 a month. Google announced it on April 1st, which had some users wondering if it was a joke, but VP Shermit Ben Yair confirmed it on Twitter.
1:54:32part of me kind of goes yeah are they just trying to get more of your data it's like yes but also if we were going to have to pay for it for them to get more of our data at least i guess they can get more of our data which i know it's expensive right now but home labbing is sick yeah but hey i we so rarely find a subscription service these days that is just a subscription service from a big tech company that got better instead of worse spontaneously is more rare more rather than less so we're we gotta call out bad stuff when we see it but we also gotta like you know on the other side we gotta be like good job when something doesn't suck more yeah say the past said heads up though home lab is an enormous rabbit hole yeah yeah there's i think there's i think people have a tendency to dive in further than they necessarily need to and i think you can start with home labby stuff without really going way too hard and there are content creators out there that can help you not dive past either your capabilities your desire to invest time or your desire to invest money you can do it in simpler ways and cheaper ways you can turn anything into a dick measuring contest so just don't lab is for sure one of those i have so many ai gpus in my in my house i don't even use them because i just and that's cool they work for other people you just don't have to you know you don't you don't have to do that you can keep it pretty simple yeah you don't have to do that uh do not do that
1:56:14hey oh you know what i'll save this one our last big topic neural compression speaking of ai is coming for your vram and both nvidia and intel are racing to ship it they both showed off new neural texture compression tech this week nvidia's approach neural texture compression ntc had their demo showing vram usage dropping from about six and a half gigabytes with traditional compressed textures to just 970 megabytes oh all while keeping image quality close to the original the core idea here is instead of using traditional block compression which chops textures into small blocks and approximates them ntc uses a small neural network that learns a much more efficient compressed representation of the texture data and reconstructs it on the fly during rendering yeah i'm a little skeptical too i'll need to see it in action just just relax okay you're you're brow furrowing i can feel it from here just meanwhile intel's approach texture set neural compression tsnc had intel showing two variants variant a delivers up to nine times compression with minimal quality loss they say around five percent perceptual difference while variant b pushes to 18 times compression but starts showing artifacts intel's approach works at the texture set level instead of compressing each texture individually their system looks at all the textures for a material together colors normals roughness etc and trains neural network to learn patterns across all of them at once at runtime a tiny ai model reconstructs the full set from that compressed data if these results hold up in real games if The practical impact could be significant.
1:58:00Smaller installs, lighter patches, and more headroom for higher quality assets on the same GPU hardware. NVIDIA also showed a companion technology called Neural Materials. Instead of storing tons of texture channels and running heavy shading math, it encodes material behavior into a compact representation that a small neural network decodes at render time. in one example a 19 channel material setup was reduced to eight channels with a 1.4x to 7.7x improvement to render speeds at 1080p uh our writer says i had to look up what channels meant in this context i'm going to drop a definition here in case you need it channels are the separate texture layers that make up a single surface like color roughness normals metallicness etc et cetera.
1:58:42One key distinction, guys, this is very important. This is not DLSS 5. DLSS, as far as we can tell, works at the end of the pipeline on the final image. There's a little bit of muddying of the waters there lately, so let's see what DLSS 5 actually ends up being. But as far as we can tell, that's what it is. These neural compression techniques are embedded deeper inside the render engine, handling specific tasks like decoding textures and evaluating materials rather than acting as a big instagram filter at the end that distinction matters because both developers and players had something of an extreme reaction to the effects of dl s5 on the original artistic intent now and now layer these two things together like how far can we stray from the original vision well it depends if the original vision is for them to use this at the start then i guess it was the original vision maybe but this is even like okay fair enough but i don't know that that's happening and also it's going to be inconsistent for each user um i won't know that until i see it i want to see it like if this is something where i end up with like boiling on every texture in my in my game or something like that then obviously i'm going to be pretty against it um i i i i'm layers and layers of interpretation is a is a bit of a scary thing i wasn't sure that dlss super sampling or super resolution or sorry not super whatever the stupid upscaling i i wasn't convinced that dlss was ever going to be something that i'd want to turn on 4.5 is something i would turn on without hesitation so while i fully understand and i'm on board a lot of the hesitancy and a lot of the skepticism around nvidia's marketing of their dlss various technologies and AI various technologies, I'm going to take a wait and see approach.
2:00:39Yeah, I mean... I'm going to wait, I'm going to see it. Because it's going to happen. Nothing else really matters. Exactly. There's nothing else that really matters. There's nothing you can do. It's not like I can call Jensen and be like, hey, that thing you were working on, stop it. It's bad. Just top the presses. Forget it. We don't like it. Turn it off now. It feels like a telephone game problem. Oh, sure. Garbage in, garbage out. A pretty intense telephone game problem. And how many layers of garbage in before all we could possibly get out of it is garbage yeah it's a good question yeah but we'll see have you seen that like looking at the ubisoft logo from the side thing or whatever oh yes it's a turd yes yes i have uh intel says that an alpha sdk is planned later this year while nvidia hasn't given a specific timeline but is framing this as part of its broader neural rendering roadmap alongside DLSS 5.
2:01:33Right now, it's hard for me to reflexively hate on anything that makes it so we don't need quite as much RAM. I'm just concerned. You should be. And I think I would have been concerned already. And then having seen that stuff from DLSS 5, I am concerned. I don't remember if I mentioned this back when we did that segment with Riley, but one of the first things I said to NVIDIA about the DLSS 5 demo is that like... I think the worst thing that they did was show it before it was cooked. I am usually the kind of person who enjoys seeing things be developed in the open and watching the progress in real time in this case I think they did so much harm and so much damage to what maybe will end up being better than what we saw by showing it to us in that state because it's not like this was on the verge of launching it's not like it was going to launch in a week yeah like it's it's months away oh uh rod rod said they're sharing dlss5 demo at pdx land tomorrow oh interesting okay well rod are you going i assume you're going are you gonna are you gonna report for us you can be our correspondent yeah you can you can be our dlss uh eye in the sky yeah he says i'm at the i'm at the land yeah heck yeah why aren't you playing video games bro You're watching Wancho for crying out loud.
2:03:11I mean, I'm not convinced it's about the video games for Rod. I think he's more about the community. And the computers. And yet, somehow, he doesn't manage to come up and play softball with us last year. He came to Whale, huh? Yeah, but he didn't come play softball. Do you know how many times I asked him to come to softball? That guy. He's coming to the next Whale, man. Can't take these guys anywhere. I think. Tarkov right now. Have one in the background. Nice. solid all right all right you know what i'll allow it um you know what else i'll allow wow wow that's bold i know that's very bold true gamer verified actual gamer um footsteps viewer wolfgang has the solution to my xbox pairing issue remember i was saying i had xbox pairing issues apparently to fix it i just need a bare metal windows install and i have to use that to update the controller firmware in the Xbox accessories app.
2:04:06They apparently tried it in a VM and even that didn't work. And of course, you also have the Xbox app installed and signed in so you can download something called gaming services. And after updating the firmware, his paired flawlessly. So I just want to take a moment to call out any company that requires me to own more of their products in order to update the firmware on their products. It's bad. Apple folks always get mad at me about this when i say it is completely unacceptable that i have to buy another apple product in order to update the firmware on my airpods and they say that it's some kind of double standard it is not a double standard it's unacceptable when microsoft does it too i already paid like 70 canadian dollars for your controller or whatever they are these days yeah i should be able to maintain them perfectly fine on any platform period i agree i'm going to jump back to the uh like graphics ai topic for a quick sec i find it very interesting because usually i'm a proponent of like you know jump don't jump down people's throats so much or else they just won't talk to you again in the future um but i find this one really weird because we have like disney and they came out with their like star wars animals thing that was horrible and then dlss5 and i just keep running into there's been other examples well i just can't really think of them off my head right now which is like why why are you showing me that yeah like the disney one especially was just like what like you thought this was cool like if they had just talking about they had just used some ai in the background and then done all you know the other work that they would do and it was just in a movie probably no one would have noticed or said anything about it Look at Ark Raiders.
2:05:48Here, Disney AI demo awful. It's just so bad. Like, it's the, like, audacity to be like, yeah, this is awesome. It was wild. Yeah, do you guys remember this? I do. What? And I'll remember this for longer than I will remember them doing something cool. Yeah. It's just kind of weird.
2:06:18Strange Anyways Oh man I forgot how horrible these were They're so stupid They're so bad yeah They're just so dumb Yeah Jeez Anyways It's time for After Dark Dan let's do this thing Good gravy There's uh There's a lot of uh There's a lot of checkout messages today. They love those leggings. I've been asking for them every week for years. The leggings are moving. Okay. All right. All right. Let's do it. Sweet. We, okay. This is one of those things. We would love to have more of those products. Do you imagine that the Creator Warehouse team, which is predominantly women, would like to make more products that they could wear at home?
2:07:14I do. Yeah. And we've given the opportunities, but we need your support. We need our 97 % male audience to evangelize these. And normally I don't ask you guys to do that. I don't want your charity. Tell them it has pockets. Tell them it has seven pockets. You guys don't owe me any favors. But if you love the products on sort of the men's side and you want us to have any shot of accessing a women audience and bringing that quality and bringing that care and attention to detail to women's products, I'm going to need your help this time. That's all there is to it. And it looks like you guys are responding to that.
2:08:00And once these, like seriously, we've actually moved quite a few of them today. Once these are in people's hands, leave a review and don't sugarcoat it. No. Leave an honest review because that's what we want. so that you can help guide people. And if we did a bad job, then hey, we'll take that and we'll go back to the drawing board. But I don't think we did a bad job. So if we did a good job, then say that too and we can build some momentum on this.
2:08:29All right, well, how many did these? Two leggings. Excited these are out to share the LDD quality with my wife. What are some tech-related hobbies that your significant others have been interested in? uh i mean my my daughters are getting really into um oh man what is my what is my eldest daughter not into she's getting really into animation on the ipad just like like drawing frames and animating them she's been getting really into um 3d modeling and 3d printing um she definitely still has some so she understands 3d printing a bit and she understands 3d modeling a bit, but she's just now starting to model things and then 3D print them.
2:09:16And so the one that she was trying to print last night, the one that I started again at like two in the morning or whatever, was a third attempt because it just was like not very optimized. So that's something that is really exciting to see her learning. Oh, wait, significant others. Sorry, I thought you meant, I read it as other significant people in my life. So I went straight to my kids. tech related hobbies Yvonne's into I mean she loves like her cricket anything to do with like vinyl plotting like 2d 2d cutting the carpet thing yeah yeah she hasn't actually used that much though whereas like the cricket she's used a lot like she did a bunch of signage for smash champs on the cricket and it's like so pro looking you would never know but she like hand aligned all of it and she was like oh I think that one's way off I'm like don't don't touch it it's no one will ever notice it's fine she's just like that though um i'd say the cricket is probably the biggest like tech thing for yvonne that she's like dived into cool was this both of us or just oh yeah uh tech stuff i mean she got into streaming for a bit there she did plenty time plenty time she liked streaming.
2:10:28That was fun. She hasn't been... She's been knitting. Okay, not tech, but sure. No, I know, but I'm saying, like, she's gone away. I mean, at a time, that was technology. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Trying to think. I don't think she's been super into tech stuff in a while. She's pretty good with it, actually. Just yeah like we we recently kind of like moved back in from the reno her computer's not set up yet it's all sitting there but just hasn't really like bothered to plug it in um and the the other computing that she's done is like she used a laptop for a short period of time just to like make a google sheet for my mom and then got off the laptop again and didn't touch it good so i don't know hey didn't she do some stuff with like vibe coding or something okay yeah there you go you got that for like her old job or something yeah right yeah yeah she took like uh oh man i'm gonna describe this really poorly but um there's like actually a lot of variants of products when you're in glasses because it does like when you're when you're trying to check the person out basically yeah does it does it have this type of coding oh my god does it fair uh does it have this type of coding does it have whatever who knows various is it is it a bifocal is it not is it all these different types of things so and then you have to try to figure out what the pricing is going to be for the person so when you're like trying to tell them what it's going to cost if they get various things um she built this like form that could help you flow through that a lot more easily.
2:12:18That's cool. And that was a little bit ago, but she was quite successful with that. And she was actually quite successful with maintaining that, which can be really annoying. And she had some frustrations with it because it's really annoying. But this was a bit ago when it was worse. So yeah, that worked pretty well. That was actually what really sold me on people who have never even looked at code before being able to vibe code things. I remember you talking to me excitedly about it. It was very impressive. Like this is something. Yeah. I don't know what it is. And it is now a tool in her belt that she has, which I don't think she's really used since then, but it's available.
2:12:58It's there. And she has the confidence to do it. And it's just going to be better for the next time, which is pretty cool. And it's again, it's one of those scenarios where like no one lost a job from that. They were never going to hire someone to do that. that was never going to happen. It just made people's lives dealing with that system a little bit better, which is like, cool. Psychoma asks if Yvonne used the laser cutter from her tech upgrade. I've used it. I made her a Mother's Day present with it. Like laser, like cork, like heat pads for like hot pots and stuff. Cool. Just say, I love you, mom.
2:13:36They're from the kids, but like I did all the work. they just like picked whatever i uh yeah yeah uh and then nokia says knitting isn't tech yvonne got that by the mirror uh that's an embroidery machine and they have been using that i just sent down a picture of a pretty cool project dude it's it's cool they they there's like open source communities for knitting because they they like share their patterns and stuff like actually sweet it was really interesting to see how much crossover there is but yeah life is life is strange and it's cool yeah go for it i'm assuming you guys were talking about um like this kind of tech actually wait hold on don't show it just yet let me just double check something really quick um gdg she's been getting into like different blends of different yarns and all these different things and it's it's cool it's pretty sweet it's not for me necessarily but it's pretty sweet i'm excited about the output yeah yeah anytime okay yeah yeah so uh this was done on the embroidery machine she made that well i mean everything else was done on the sewing machine uh but yes she's super into making stuffed animals right now uh and then the eyes were done on the embroidery machine that's pretty sick yeah this is a gift for a family member that's cool yeah from she makes them from from just fabric we're at a wee bit of a distance but i would just believe that was a product oh yeah yeah oh yeah it looks great yep that's awesome yeah pretty cool hey that's really cool no key fox firefox give me i mean you can commission one i've told her i think she should sell them but uh she's mostly just interested in making them for fun if she made a little Firefox that actually looked like the Firefox logo is Firefox.
2:15:37That would probably slam. For it to be worth her time, it would have to be pretty expensive. They take a long time. It's a hobbyist thing, for sure. Yeah, well everyone watching on Flowplane is using Firefox. I know they are. There's a lot of Firefox users. Every one of them. Hit me, Dan. Linus, with Tesla heralding the imminent arrival of unsupervised full self-driving do you think that or open pilot will be done first which would you rather have all else being equal i mean i'd rather have the version that tesla's been promising for all this time um unfortunately hold on uh hold on hold on unfortunately it's been promised over and over and over and over and over and over again and it has just never like actually arrived in the way that they have promised it um here hold on there's uh there's a really funny article that broke down all the times that Elon has said by this date, it will be more safe than human drivers.
2:16:53And then the, the writer of the article actually didn't get them all. And one of the, uh, one of the commenters under it found going back even further, more times that he had used exactly the same puffery language to describe the progress that they were making on full self-driving. And to be clear, you know, what a Tesla is capable of doing is very cool. My objection to it is the way that it's been marketed, the way that people have been misled for all of these years. At many times, in ways that Tesla and their leadership must have known was not true. That's what I find frustrating about it it's not that the software is not cool it's not that it's not useful it just isn't what they said it was or what they branded it as and the timelines have just i mean they've just become a meme at this point like it's not even it's like valve time at least valve eventually delivers the thing when are we actually going to get the tesla full self-driving that is actually safer than a human driver and maybe more importantly when is tesla going to have the stones to actually publish any peer-reviewed data that backs that up they don't waymo does but tesla doesn't and the only reason that i can think of that tesla would not publish data like their disengagements for instance is that it's not flattering that's the that's why else if you're the leader in the space, you talk about it.
2:18:36If you like to pretend and you cosplay as the leader in the space, then you obfuscate. It's that simple.
2:18:46Hey, DLL, love the show. Question for Linus and Luke. If I made an LTT video game, what would you like to see in it? I would like to see gameplay first and not an LTT video game. I just don't think an LTT video game would be very good. Like, what even would an LTT video game be?
2:19:12Like, I, like, uh... Like, I'd see something like PC Building Simulator. Like, a simulator-type game, maybe? Is it, uh, man, what was that name of the game? Video... PR Crisis Management Simulator. That makes sense. Video game creation simulator or something what was that game dev tycoon oh yeah okay it was like game dev tycoon but pewdiepie already has youtuber simulator though so like what the heck else is it that i'd be different than that game dev tycoon isn't isn't just the like game dev version of youtube simulator it's it's different you could like game dev tycoon it but with youtube channels and it wouldn't even technically have to just be tech and that's how you can get away from it being LTT based is it could just be YouTube channels.
2:20:02Now we're getting a little bit closer to YouTube simulator, but it's still different. I swear it's still different. Noki points out that we already made an LTT video game. Hold on. Here it is. Yep. Well, we also had Linus Jump. I don't think there's a lot of footage of easily findable. That was pretty cool. But Linus Jump was actually pretty sweet. For the verified actual gamer program. Yeah. Alright, Dan, hit me. hi linus luke and dan looking for the best thermal adhesive to apply rocket cool copper ihs to a 12700k any other advice found a working chip on three bay excuse the e just uh need to assemble uh also how's your steam build uh here's here's my question for you um at this point why put an ihs back on a cpu yeah go bear die maybe yeah based if it's working just um man what would i use i'm trying to remember does intel solder them um i have man i haven't felt the need to delid an intel top tier chip in quite a while i'm sure yeah i'm sure roman uh dare bauer would have a video for you but uh it's intel solder the 1200 12 000 excuse me um series chips that's what i would probably want to know yeah oh man if they're soldered by default almost anything you put on them is not going to be an upgrade i i mean doesn't rocket cool have a guide for how you're supposed to assemble their copper ihs i i would just i would just raw dog it bear die personally be fast be cool products here we go instructions here i'm gonna i'm gonna do the research for you 12th gen instructions delid relid hairdryer to soft this video is unavailable what the really you guys okay well i can see what the problem is then artemis 2 suggested in his suggestions let's go
2:22:21yeah i would check out der bauer's channel he would almost certainly have something about that but he's gotta i oh man i see people are saying liquid metal and that would be maybe the most effective but it would be pretty dangerous to apply there when you don't have a way of i wouldn't trust just silicone gluing an ihs back down and hoping that i have enough enough contact for liquid metal personally um ptm would be safe i don't know how good it would be in that in that application and i say ptm 7950 is the one i mean yeah from from ltd store we have that it's a good thermal pad um but the honest truth is i just don't know if it's the best for for that situation sorry hey ldl been a fan since i was a kid i was tasked with making one to two mil photos million photos be viewable to far away elderly family members considering google photos or a home lab solution what would you suggest oh my god well it depends do you want a fun project if that's the case how about image do you want to just upload it crap it onto the internet and not think about it anymore than google photos i mean it depends i know like some people really seem to hate helping family members with tech stuff um and them being far away i don't know how compatible it is for like are you awake when they're awake like if they're having a trouble viewing your home lab thing is it going to be okay now that doesn't mean that they're going to have no problems with Google Photos, but the blame shifts.
2:24:15It's kind of up to you. I do wonder what the cost for storing 2 million photos into Google Photos would be.
2:24:25I'll be right back.
2:24:29Bye. Bye. But yeah, I don't know. My gut would be to image it um but yeah it depends depends how how friendly are you with those relatives how much time do you want to spend um being the blame for everything and how much do you think they will understand that because it's not like google photos is gonna be perfect either but anytime you provide the solution i've had this talk with the infrastructure team a bunch locally at lmg it's like yeah i mean if if the thing that we propose that we use is someone else's thing that we're just paying for when it goes down everybody just goes ah you know dang um if it's our thing if we're self-hosting it whatever else and it goes down then people get angrier i find and specifically at you which is rough so um yeah are they that type of person or are they going to be supportive of of you trying to do it yourself i would i would self-analyze that because like i say oh i would probably go with the self-hosted solution i'm pretty confident my family would just think it's like cool and if there was more problems they're just like let me know and then it'll be fine so i don't know it depends my concern is no matter what you do uh you set it up so it'll be your fault yeah you are now on the hook for this cloud flare goes down you set it up it's your fault why did you pick something that went through cloud flare dummy me yeah well they don't even understand what that is just the thing that you were in charge of is now broken yeah and then again with certain people that won't be a problem at all and with others it will i would try to analyze which which they might be and go from there print them out and just just mail just have a have a requesting service service where they can just get tons and tons of boxes full of all the photos at any time and people just ship them around to each other what about just having an external drive with them and like a sync thing so that you can just like give them to them like mailing it with extra steps i had to we had to data transfer a ton of videos back in the day from dank pods um and it was faster and more efficient for him to just mail us a drive what is it the pigeon per second kind of thing like pigeons and and truck what is what is the data transfer rate of a at some level it becomes faster to yeah duct tape micro sd cards to pigeons what is the what is the meme what is the data transfer rate of a what are those old uh old mobiles that had the wood paneling they had like a name um vuick i don't i don't know i think there's also station station wagon yeah what is the data transfer rate of a station wagon a lot a ton these days even more because now we have one terabyte micro sd cards yep you fill up a station wagon with one of those oh yeah all of those sorry and you are you are moving data yeah you can't you can't i think that's why like uh geez backblaze part of their recovery system is we'll just ship you like a box of hard drives yep yep is there is there a discussion question we can do now i'm looking for one uh how about this one uh hey loop lenus and laniel what would you say are some examples of lower lower power tech that has far exceeded your needs and expectations what on earth is lower power tech i think i can interpret this in a few ways i think one of them is a bit of a cop-out because i'm looking at it right there but the Neo.
2:28:11It's a phone processor. I don't think that's actually talked about enough. It's a mobile phone processor and the laptop is sweet. Like I actually don't, I haven't seen a ton of people kind of pointing out like, guys, this isn't necessarily what you'd expect in a laptop in regards to the chip, but it's really good. Also, this was not low power, but would probably be considered low performance, I guess, now. But something like a 1080. People are still rocking 1080s to play modern competitive games and doing fine with it, which is wild. The fact that people are playing even like graphically great games.
2:28:51People are playing Ark Raiders on 1080s and having a totally fantastic time. And the 1080 has been around. Yeah. Three times. Ugh. No ding for that? Fine. i'm back i'm gonna turn 360 degrees around and walk away yeah nice yeah hey oh um it's story time remember you asked why i was so tired this week sure so we had a trip to virginia okay uh we went to see a data center for i did like a sponsored video for equinix which was pretty cool cool um unlike the last equinix data center tour we did i was like hey we can't just like do the same thing over and over again they're like oh yeah that makes sense don't worry we've actually got lots of really cool stuff and i was like okay cool so uh we went into one of their um one of their like experimental cages you got in the cage nice and that's something i don't think you got in the cage and in their like test platform cages uh they had a lot of it was actually like older stuff but it was kind of experimental stuff so one of the things that we're going to show is like this um you know how direct liquid cooling is like totally a thing for servers yeah um what i hadn't had somehow escaped my notice was they have a two-stage system there that instead of using water is using water to cool a uh or a two-phase excuse me uh they have a two-phase system so they're using water to cool a refrigerant that is being pumped around with a compressor out to the systems in it apparently it's been around for like four or five years now which i thought was pretty cool so we we checked that out um anyway that's not the story the story is that there's a particular member of the writing team who was uh basically came to me and said i would like to uh i would like to ride the thing and i basically said well you can't just ride it because as much as i joke about oh well as long as we have a business meeting then it's a business expense that's not actually how it works you just actually have to do something you actually it has to actually be for a reason and so he pitched the lowest hanging fruit possible uh that we would build the highest pc ever but like haha get it um now obviously we're not just going to do like the most low effort nonsense ever so uh what we did is we worked with uh pancratz who has his um week in the life of vlog over on floatplane right now lmg.gg slash floatplane uh to make what we believe is maybe not the but one of the most efficient gaming PCs so in terms of FPS per watt I don't think we were much clearer of like 200 watts by the time we were done with it but we were playing Cyberpunk at like 60 FPS 1080p like very solid settings nice very cool anyway is how it was supposed to go until we had finished meal service and we went to get everything out of the luggage compartment and realized that one certain writer had left the case on the ground
2:32:10did you did you buy the case on the other end and then build it on the way back so we devised a plan okay the way it was supposed to work was because we wouldn't just like take it up to build a computer and it didn't bring it down like it would have to be going somewhere for a good reason already anyway uh so he was he was on he was with us on the whole trip and then he was just gonna like work from home for the rest of the trip and then what was supposed to happen was on the way back we were supposed to be able to nap because the equinix tour started at started at eight o 'clock in the morning Eastern time, which is five o 'clock in the morning for us.
2:32:46So I was up at like four 30 or something or four 20, uh, after doing the highest PC build. Um, and so I wanted to work all day and then sleep on the way back. But instead we devised a plan, uh, while Sherrod and I went to Equinix with, uh, Sean, one of our, uh, new, one of our newer guys, he's a camera op actually. He's, um, he's, he's awesome. You guys will meet him at some point pretty soon. I think, uh we went to do the data center tour and um screw it elijah you're gonna find out soon enough chat all guests because you like hinted to the idea super strongly in the oh did i in the announcement video announcement video you talked about like how i don't even think it was build like low power draw and uh high performance and oh did we already have this video planned at that point i get my timelines you mentioned lightweight a lot so it might not have been exactly this it was pretty much this yeah it's pretty light it's not the lightest thing but it's it's like it's small it's pretty light and it's super low power okay yeah it was elijah um anyway so he went and it turns out hey there's micro center about 40 minutes from the data center so he basically went to micro center bought the case um and then went back to the airport and just like sat and like work from home because like what the heck else is he gonna do we don't have a hotel room anymore because we were going back that day so he just like hung out at the airport for like six hours and then we finished the data center tour i'm like wiped because i actually had a really hard time falling asleep the night before um because i'm not time adjusted and then i was getting up at like and also i just i have a hard time sleeping and then i had to get up at like 4 30 my time and then so i worked all day and then we did our meal and then i was like sitting there and it's like time to rally okay let's do this thing um smelling salts just to film videos and it actually ended up working out okay we were really worried because the original plan for the trip had us flying back at night or like in the dark not at night but in the dark and what we've learned so far is that that would not work i don't think we can film in there other than daytime uh but we not only got it working we got everything going we got power figured out uh we got i was even able to download obs so that i could do screen cap because we forgot to put obs on the drive before we took off it took forever oh yeah right that makes sense but we were able to game the one thing you know what i'm not gonna i'm not gonna spoil anything else it is probably the most unhinged video that has been on our channel in a solid six grounded you could say you could say that you could say that I will give you guys one I will give you guys one hint I'll give you guys one hint okay I'm gonna send this to you Dan just throw this on the just throw this up on the stream this is so funny normally the video would be hosted by like me and elijah right and and sean would film it but we actually had a special guest for this video on the way back uh dan you want to you want to throw that up for us when you get a minute oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you got a sec I oh yeah oh yeah yeah go for it go for it Sherrod decided to uh lend us a helping hand on the shoot what am I looking at here he was napping the whole time was he snoring or something uh no but when I had to cable manage under him was pretty interesting
2:36:48oh boy it's sheer it's sheer dumb fun it's it's complete dumb fun and if you thought that the you know not being grounded joke was terrible we've got whole new depths of depravity to sure you know what else i'm actually really excited about is uh we've got uh we've got a video coming where i finally do a build with sammy oh cool do you know about this no sammy sounds great though only sort of my permission uploaded a short called oh i do know about this one dollar for my pc for every my my boss will spend a dollar on my pc for every subscriber yeah that video drove 18 000 subscribers so i was contractually obligated to build samia workstation for 18 000 with a caveat i got to pick the hardware i mean i'm the one buying it right so so sammy and i build a machine together and uh james was watching it he said that it's uh it's one of the most fun videos we've ever done and also because sammy is like has built a computer before but like not well is actually full of like really good solid like tech tips for beginners and intermediate builders and stuff uh i'm really excited about that one too both of these videos have like very similar just just plain fun energy is it gonna happen just plain fun no i got it i was wondering if it's gonna happen there we go thanks dan i thought you're still talking about the sammy yeah well no both of them both of them i think we're i don't know man we're headed into an interesting era i think i um i was looking at what uh what's the video that we have coming out this weekend uh let me have a look here train oh yeah like oh man uh i think it's coming this weekend or monday but um we had uh we had our electric chargers cut our ev chargers cut and the copper cord stolen and just classic this is like classic ltt stuff i thought you did that for a completely different reason no okay no this is like classic ltt stuff like just a thing happened in our you know daily lives and we use it as an opportunity for tech tips we make an upgrade to the car chargers we talk about the process we talk about like uh the the value of the copper that was stolen um by the way for you like copper thieves out there it's not a lot it's like not actually worth that much like really don't do that it's not it's like not worth it i was talking to uh this is a side quest i was talking to alex um alex alex dick uh our um our logistics manager guy and i was like dude like what would you think of just like putting a little sticker on the car chargers that's just like hey if you need it that badly there's 10 bucks in a tin can behind the building just go take it like this is not worth it man it's crazy like what people will do for for 10 bucks i don't know how to deal with that he's he's talking generally to the youtube audience the float plane people are all like we've seen this we saw this two days ago oh oh he's talking about a weekend release for for youtube why didn't sammy have the uh i don't know why didn't sammy have the early releases on uh on the floatplane announcements no
2:40:28yeah anyway all right cool uh oh sorry dan we can go back to uh checkout messages hey and nad is gil and you know any updates on the tech house uh any fun or interesting things you want to include in the house oh man i need to go there and just kind of sit and meditate in the middle of the house for a while because it's a really weird problem it's it's large enough that it has like all the rooms you know what i mean it's got a kitchen and like a spot for a kitchen table and a family room and a dining room and a living room right like it has all the rooms and it's big enough for that but it's not really big enough that all those rooms are like a like an ideal size the kitchen is really small gotcha and so to expand the kitchen i actually think that it should get more of like a condo layout where instead of having a formal dining room and also an eating area it should just be one but unfortunately because of the sunken living room where you would do that without the floor plan just being super weird is not obvious and now that we had to pay so much to get the asbestos removed i don't think our our hypothetical homeowner gi even if i did feel like spending the money i if our if our hypothetical homeowner Guy is trying to do things on a reasonable budget.
2:42:09I think he's in a situation right now where he's kind of exceeded his budget. And if he wanted to like expand the sunken living room or something, like make a major change like that, it probably wouldn't be feasible. So I want to try to find a way to make it make sense where we don't have to make a major change, but just because like the kitchen's in this corner and then you've got like a really small dining room and then you've got this like stairs down to the living room and then over this way you've got like your back door like your back sliding door so you're sort of bounded on that side and then you've got like a family room and it's like well we can't go this way and we can go this way but unless we go this way like a lot it's really weird and then also sorry where is the dining area supposed to be like i just i need to sit and i need to fester on it for a while fester yeah that's a choice i have a short circuit hoodie and i love it why did you switch from cotton polyester spandex to 100 cotton on most new hoodies which new hoodies have lots of pockets like the short circuit hoodie um generally speaking people sort of are of the mind that more cotton content is more better i like you do not necessarily agree that it provides a better experience for me um they're trying to get away from microplastics right uh no no and just in terms of just like quality not not not necessarily even like ecological concerns the wan hoodie though is the closest to the short circuit hoodie in terms of having like all the all the fun pockets and stuff like here's a pocket on the arm because i don't know there's a pocket here's a pocket on the chest because we put a pocket there here's a pocket in the back because we put a pocket there um this is sort of the the spiritual replacement for that
2:44:14hit me dan hey dan luke and avon's husband oh you recently put out a video saying that ram prices are going to be going down soon assuming that's true when are we expecting storage prices to do the same i mean what i said was i think the worst may be over i don't know that they will in short order go down to where we started nothing nothing happens overnight like you won't this increase didn't happen overnight and a decrease won't happen overnight um so there's always a lag and with that in mind i don't think the worst has hit us yet for storage i wouldn't go out and you know buy a million dollars worth of SSDs and hoping to flip them in, you know, four weeks or whatever, because of that sort of intuition.
2:45:04Like I wouldn't actually bet money on it, but I don't think the worst of it has yet hit us because of how much later SSD prices started to skyrocket compared to RAM. I also haven't seen any solid evidence that there's anything that would ease storage demand um i think there's a very very strong incentive to
2:45:36to to find workarounds to just needing infinite memory um storage i'm not convinced has hit the point where it's costing so much that there's as as much of an incentive it's still pretty bad but yeah for sure i'm not talking about for consumers i'm talking about for the data center builders uh amaria in flipping chat was like i wouldn't buy it right now i'm paraphrasing slightly uh i'd sign a letter of intent to buy them nice nice solid hello lld recently found out my 11 year old made an instagram account would love to hear linus's approach to parental controls iOS screen time is mega broken and isn't cross-platform.
2:46:23Any practical tips? This is a big part of my problem with Apple's approach. They are not cross-platform. I don't think Family Link is especially cross-platform on the Google side, but I have found it to be, at least to my knowledge, reasonably reliable. I'm pretty happy with it. It allows overall device management as well as per app management in a way that I think is pretty darn intuitive. I wouldn't recommend like going and buying an Android phone in order to do that. one of the things you could do is if you have a router that supports it you could check the the services that are being utilized by your kid's phone's IP I doubt they have the sophistication at 11 years old to install a VPN to obscure which apps and which websites they're using so that would be a way to keep an eye on it there's always good old-fashioned grounding you know, okay, you made this account without permission and you're using it after we talked about not using it guess what you don't have a phone for some indeterminate period of time um at the end of the day right though it comes down to your relationship with your kid that's what you got to manage and not even your relationship with your kid your relationship with that human they're only going to be 11 for less than a year and they're only going to be not an adult for just over half of the time that they've existed again right so good luck parenting is hard at linus what are you thinking for for your next car after the taken i don't know it took me like 10 years to upgrade from a clapped out civic uh tycan seems pretty good second tycan what about second tycan how about a byd uh oh yeah one of those 10 000 horsepower ones uh probably uh carry the tycan in it i i think i think i could be i think i could be convinced by the yang wang u9 yang wang is awesome heck yeah that looks hot dude have you rode in linus's wang yet it's a yang wang sir not a wang okay number wang um i don't know it looks it looks pretty cool and it's not as expensive as you would think how much is this thing uh yeah 236 000 us dollars man linus is not as expensive as you would think is always like oh god yeah but it's a hyper car they cost like two million u.s dollars it's still it's also usd so it's like 42 million canadian dollars um hopefully not for long it's not as much as you would expect for other vehicles in that performance class with gullwing doors with all the like super angular styling and stuff like it's priced like a chinese car compared to the western alternatives but like a top tier hyper car it's there's cheaper places to get way stay the path says it looks like a corvette shrug i actually i don't think that's true what i don't agree with that either dude uh c8 corvettes i think they look pretty cool i i unironically like the z06 or z6 this is the newest 2026 yeah like this thing it just don't i don't like it i don't like it's butt you don't like it's butt i think i like the butt yeah i like i i loved a butt sorry what i gotta disagree what mid-year is this the 2023 2023.
2:50:27Oh, that looks good. 2026 looks good. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to take it back. Alright. Good. Chat doesn't like it. That's fine. You don't have to buy one. I also don't have to buy one. I don't think I could go back to internal combustion at this point. I don't know if my car's ever going to die, so... Yeah, I... Okay. It might not matter. What would it take? I'm thinking. I'm sizing you up. Every once in a while, there will be, like, someone will almost T-bone me or something. and it'll flash through my head of like oh my god am i gonna have to buy another car what would happen and then it doesn't happen and i'm like oh cool car's still fine
2:51:18i don't think you will literally ever replace it if i don't have to i probably won't i think the only thing that would cause you to replace it would be if you had a repair bill that was more than the sticker value of the car i think that's i think that's the only way that's what happened last time yeah that's what happened the only other time i replaced okay if that happened if that happened what would you what would you get this is one of the reasons why whenever i almost get schwacked by someone not paying attention it flashes through my mind is because i don't really know right i don't really know i would man i would be so happy if acura was making uh plug-in hybrid tl variants but they're just not yeah honda and toyota seem to be like publicly melting down right now about how weird like doomed they are if they don't immediately change everything
2:52:19to be clear i think there's a long-term market for plug-in hybrids and i think them like if china is just going to completely own the electric car market which they might maybe not in america but they might pretty much everywhere else i think them being like japan is the plug-in hybrid market i think they could do really well um but i don't know anything about any of that so don't listen to me um but yeah it just makes me sad that like i really like the I don't know what you want to call it I really like the idea of my car I feel very comfortable in that car I Tim03 like that a lot says okay you're cheap but like what about saving money over time because of gas costs okay so here's the thing he doesn't drive that much yeah and that's why his car is never going to die yeah
2:53:10like anything that's like this date or mileage whichever one comes first it's always the date that car has literally never hit the mileage count before the date and i have done like road trips down to portland and back still not gonna hit the mileage first yeah yeah and i really like the the look of the new tlx's and stuff um but would you get same model year and make oh right they don't even do it anymore yeah 2025 is the last year i guess yeah but now they do integras and the integras look pretty sweet too. Like it's not the technical like type R. It's S. For this generation. Or do they have an R of the Integra?
2:54:03I have no idea. They had a type R of the I think it was like TLX 2023 or something and that was a sweet looking car dude. Damn. Damn. But yeah they're just still fully iced I believe. Is this one you're talking about? TLS type S? No. Oh, okay. Well, not the one that Dan's talking about. I think that's also a different brand. Got it. But, yeah. Alright. I'd be very interested. Like, I've been sitting here kind of twiddling my thumbs like, oh, they'll totally make one that's a plug-in hybrid eventually and then I'll wait for it to be used for a bunch of years and then I'll get one. And they just won't do it.
2:54:44So, I'm not 100 % sure, to be honest. Um...
2:54:50All right. Hit me, Dan. Hey, Litmus, Duke, and Flan. Artemis mission photos are releasing and have brought people together. Do you remember a piece of media that had a profound impact on you or inspired you to dream bigger? Ooh, dream. Ooh, okay. My first thought was not dream bigger necessarily. How about inspired you? Or how about profound impact? Profound impact and brought people together? I think it's really hard to ignore. Lord of the Rings. Okay. I'm just answering for you No that's fantastic That isn't what I was going to say but that's fantastic I like that I was going to say the original launch of Pokemon Go If you want to talk about Brought people together like Holy It was years where if you saw people Walking around in groups outside on their phones It was like Even now it's like still a thing It's decently popular still It's not where it was but it's been out for over 10 years So the fact that it's still as popular it is is crazy for me a impact on me in particular um i mean i saw puget systems at pax with a mineral oil computer and that's what inspired me to make my own um watching the making of uh i think it was morrowind and the making of the original halo were like super impactful and wanting to get me into software development um yeah there's there's tons of stuff man it has been really interesting like there was there was uh three plus million people i think i think at one point in time there's over five million people just watching just the streams on nasa's youtube account yeah not even all of the other people reacting to it all the other space channels putting up their own feeds all that kind of stuff there was many many millions of people watching the artemis uh launch landing everything in between um and looking at the chat as as divided as the world is right now looking at the chat on youtube which is often like uh a wretched hive of scum and villainy there we go that's the quote i was looking for um like quite literally but it's usually so bad but it was really just people talking about how awesome this was and like posting their country's flag and being like watching from here or there or whatever like this is so awesome look at what look at what we can all do um really awesome moment anyways This is going to probably upset someone, but I don't really feel that bad about it.
2:57:19But I think that Prime Minister Carney's recent speech was... The Davos speech? Was the first time that I really felt like a Canadian politician in my adult lifetime actually understood the problems that we have here. and actually had some semblance of not just a plan, but the will to try to at least solve them.
2:57:57There's one line in particular that I've used multiple times, and that's nostalgia is not a strategy. I think that at times in my life I've spent, I mean, I suspect we're probably all guilty of this sometimes, but I've spent too much time looking to the past for our solutions and they're just not going to be there. Yeah. I've shown people on, on many parts of the political spectrum, including people that would generally be against him. I've shown them that speech and pretty much everyone. He's been like, damn.
2:58:36Yeah. Even people that don't necessarily like him or, or whatever else. It's a, it's a good speech. Good speech. Last one I got for you today. Greetings, Linus and the one on the right. What's a computer product that isn't super necessary, but it's very useful to have. Ah. The one on the right's going to answer this one first. Nice. Solid. I still love it, man. PowerPlay. And I've heard the new one is worse or something. like I heard PowerPlay 2 is worse than PowerPlay 1 I don't know why I haven't looked into it at all because my PowerPlay 1 still is completely awesome and fine it's just great and yeah the default mousepad is too small I just put an LTT desk mat over it and ditched the default mousepad just tossed it and it's totally fine that's a good answer it's awesome they are expensive it's a luxury item for sure but I'm kind of surprised I don't see them more often because they're just sweet.
2:59:42I haven't plugged in my mouse in years and I haven't swapped the batteries ever. It's awesome. I'm gonna go with my airpods they are not necessary i could use pretty great i could use wired um i could use over the ears uh when i'm you know doing a data center tour or whatever i could take the little squishy ear things but man i use them every day literally every single day i use my airpods they aren't necessary but i absolutely love them i wish the i wish the threes um the three pros were as comfortable as the two pros for me they still like i i still haven't managed to mold my ears to them um but the the superior active noise cancellation is just it's unavoidably better and worth it after after the amount of time that i've spent with them now i have run out you have run out what do you mean you've run out you're right there thanks we'll see you again next week same bad time same bad channel wait no no no a different channel okay so hold on we may need to change up the strategy so it's fine we may need to change up the strategy for switching to streaming to the wanshow channel yeah uh people are migrating faster than i expected oh there's like 2500 people the last time i checked that were watching on the wan show channel rather than on the ltt channel and people are getting like double notifications and stuff we like need to deal with this do we either do we just do the thing that you suggested which i'm aligned with or do we pull the audience figure what they want basically we're trying to we it's like we agree we got to split it up so do we keep the channel that's there as the clips channel and move the live stream again somewhere else i i oppose that i'm not asking them that let's take it offline let's you and i talk about it the cliff channel somewhere else i'm fine with either one well okay there's other voices internally that point at other video podcast channels that do have the podcast and the clips all on the same channel and what apparently happens over time is if you only click the live stream and you never click the clips you will stop getting the clips because YouTube is all algorithmic now.
3:02:03So let's talk about it. Let's you, me, and James get together. It would be nice if it can be one channel. Sit down. I would like for it to be one channel. That would be much simpler from just an IP management standpoint. Totally. Okay. We'll figure it out. We'll see you again next week. We hear you though. We know it sucks. At the WAN Show channel. And more enthusiastically this time. Bye!
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