Linux’s Biggest Win Yet - WAN Show April 24, 2026

18:50Luke Lafreniere:really good point people never gave up they just never cared enough because convenience always wins but that's the thing is the the encrapification is crossing that threshold where it's not

19:04Linus Sebastian:convenient for me is less convenient than running mint on my laptop windows gets in my way more slows me down and stops me from doing my job more than mint does so like at this point in time the convenient option is to run linux and that's not even a linux nerd i have never once opened the command line i don't know why i look down here uh my lap my laptop's not with me right now but i'm sorry to hear that um i have never once opened the command line on mint on my laptop i've never done anything fancy all the software i've ever installed is just from the package manager which is effectively an app store on your phone based like i i've done nothing special with that laptop and it is perfect like it's this is not uh this is not a weird or special thing and i'm just genuinely more productive on it because it doesn't pester me about stuff all right let's pick another category sure what would then what would you want to see them jump into sorry you're doing ship

20:10Luke Lafreniere:storm right now what are you talking about oh thank you thank you for your service i have no idea what's going on cool good chat luke then uh i'll settle for talking to luke good plan

20:30Linus Sebastian:what a what an appropriate response

20:33Luke Lafreniere:i already think i have one in mind for me but do you want me to go first then or do you want to go first just in case it's you know the best one and you uh think of it before i do no i i

20:42Linus Sebastian:before you ever mentioned i mean i'm certain you already had the thought but before you ever mentioned it really the tv thing i had already thought tv tv has been very frustrating for me for a long time well you've had to shop for one unfortunately rip luke's tv a couple times recently yeah and but even like someone will ask me for a recommendation i'm just like oh like i don't feel good about any of the recommendations well samsung has these

21:07Luke Lafreniere:really great looking you know cutie OLEDs um too bad Tizen OS yep LG has some pretty good looking W OLEDs too bad web OS has taken a sharp right turn into crapsville yeah so just none of it feels good so definitely TVs outside of that I might need some thinking all right I'm gonna I'm gonna go with mine I'm gonna see if this kind of like I'm gonna see if this kind of vibes with people but i would actually love to see framework get into sbcs like single board computers it's a it's a space where the the cost has crept up on people in a way that was never really the like the idea you know like the the kind of the raspberry pi contract wasn't the original sales pitch the original sales pitch was these things are hyper affordable they're bare bones um and they've just kind of um they've just kind of gotten bloated both in terms of the the feature set and in terms of price and there are still like very basic ones but it has felt like for some time that the availability of the ones that are like you know supposed to be affordable has been not great and some of the alternatives are not necessarily getting the tlc in terms of of of compatibility that the the name brand you know raspberry pies have i would be i'd be very interested in something like a framework pie if they were able to work with their manufacturing partners that they obviously have for things like the um like the the laptop right they obviously can make a circuit board, right?

22:52Luke Lafreniere:I'd be interested to see if they could make, if they could somehow bring their, like, upgradable, repairable ethos to single board computers. And I don't know, maybe it's not realistic. And maybe it'd be a stupid business for them to go into because who wants an ASP of, like,$15 or$20 or whatever? But it's somewhere that I feel like, potentially, they could make a difference.

23:17Linus Sebastian:speaking of uh stupid business for them to go into yeah um with the eu's thing which i don't think we've talked about it yet but it's one of the topics on this show i believe sometimes the shows really blur into each other for me but um is uh phones the eu's pushing replaceable battery phones now could be the time framework has said publicly that they'll never do it that's probably

23:43Luke Lafreniere:wise and fair phone already exists yeah and i think you know for me for framework to have a reason to come in and like compete with fair phone take that tiny tiny market share of people who care more about like the sustainability and and repairability aspect than they do about like you know a phone being a more cohesive high performance product and then cut that down the middle it feels like it would be a disservice to both of them to to wedge themselves in there unless they were really bringing up like a powerful value to it at this point people aren't just buying i i know

24:25Linus Sebastian:this isn't what you were saying i'm not saying oh so you hate hot dogs i'm just talking uh but i i think at this point people are just buying some people are just buying frameworks because they're

24:35Luke Lafreniere:cool oh dude frameworks are trendy yeah like just kind of sweet seeing how excited people are i have no investment in for cheer for this company has been very cool and you know what speaking of speaking of cool how much better is narav on camera than he's he's a lot better i was like i was like this doesn't prove quite a bit very noticeable i saw a couple comments about it too he's like he used to be just awkward and now he's like kind of cool awkward like trendy awkward i'm

25:05Linus Sebastian:sure it helps doing our videos but i suspect in general he's just been doing a lot more of those

25:08Luke Lafreniere:yeah well he has to talk to people as a ceo he has to motivate he has to like give speeches and stuff i assume right yeah so you just you get practiced at public speaking you don't really have a choice but uh yeah no i thought uh i thought he did a great job in the video yeah why don't we do a great job of finding another awesome topic to talk about there's so

25:27Linus Sebastian:much this week yeah um this that was not shouted out maybe we should get through the ones we mentioned at the beginning. Actually, psych, I'm going to pull an audible and do the topic line I said that I should have brought up at the beginning or that he expected I was going to bring up. Okay, let's do it. Gemini has escaped from the cloud. Serascale, I've never heard this verbally said, so I'm going to call it Serascale. Serascale cloud services announced an expanded partnership with Google Cloud on Wednesday that will allow them to offer the full Google Gemini model to be used completely offline on air-gapped, unfortunately, Google-certified hardware appliances built by Dell and featuring eight NVIDIA GPUs.

26:14Linus Sebastian:So this isn't... Hold on.

26:15Luke Lafreniere:Can we get a... Can we get a... Luke f***ing called it!

26:20Linus Sebastian:I should have. Can I get one of those?

26:22Luke Lafreniere:Dan, can I get one of those?

26:23Linus Sebastian:This is... Yeah, don't worry about it. This is probably the most, like, direct version of what I was talking about that has been announced so far. Because this is like an appliance that you buy that runs the premium cloud-only version of a model and locally for big businesses. This is that like, oh, hey, there's going to be mainframes again type conversation that I had in the past. I don't remember exactly how I worded it, but something like that. Back to the notes. This will allow sectors with serious privacy concerns, healthcare, government, defense, finance, etc., etc., etc., to avoid risking exposure of sensitive data on third-party infrastructure.

27:04Linus Sebastian:All the customers' data, inputs, outputs, etc., it's secure because of this. Updating your local Gemini will require a temporary private connection to Google servers or physically shipping your appliance to Google and being sent the new version. So this is for big boys.

27:23Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. But while this isn't quite the way that I think Luke would want to do it if he was rolling his own infra. Yeah, not at all. What it is is a clear acknowledgement that the cloud, it didn't fail, but it wasn't the perfect solution for everyone that it was hailed as.

27:44Linus Sebastian:Well, and whether or not you believe the stuff with Mythos and whatnot going on right now. I think, honestly, the various wars, more than anything else, have been showing us that just a lot of software is just pretty vulnerable to stuff if people are willing to spend the time and often the money to work hard enough to poke at it. And the more connected it is, the more places there are to poke at it. Yeah. So if it can just be not connected, then there you go. So, yeah, Google IP is protected by confidential computing protections, whatever the heck that is. And Cirascale CEO Dave Dridgers explained that the Gemini model resides entirely in volatile memory.

28:30Linus Sebastian:As soon as the power is off, the model is gone. If the system detects any form of tampering, it shuts itself down to wipe the model. That's in a weird way. That's kind of cool. Yeah. That sucks for me.

28:45Luke Lafreniere:it's like dr doofenshmirtz made it it just it has to have a self-destruct button no matter

28:50Linus Sebastian:no matter how superfluous it is that's that's wild i don't mean cool in like a like that's great but it's cool technology yeah exactly it's just kind of you gotta you gotta respect it yeah um i i guess you know with the description of the types of places that might get one of these and assuming the cost yeah considering it features eight nvidia gpus and all this other kind of stuff um you got some backup power options i think i think it's not a huge problem um jb leaves a note it's not clear from the article but i'm assuming model in this case might be um talking specifically about model weights otherwise google physically shipping you a new version doesn't make any sense yeah i mean it literally did say or i was kind of wondering about that too but it did say earlier like you would literally ship the unit back didn't it you could you could ship it back to get updates you could ship the whole unit back that's crazy which is so like they might be serious about that i'm not sure uh but yeah wild kind of cool i i i understand that like you can if you pay out the freaking nose you can get a lot better like performing uh models online right now but self-hosting models is really cool and there's some really crazy stuff there's a there's a mac os specific thing this isn't in the notes so i'm not going to have details on it but there's a mac os specific the model of some kind uh whatever i don't know i don't remember the name of it but it like basically lives on your cursor you're like mouse cursor so as you're going around and doing things it'll have like the context of what you're looking at and it runs locally and it can try to help you with things and somebody was talking about how they were learning how to use da vinci resolve and as they were kind of poking around it would just like i haven't used it and i don't have notes on this so whatever uh i saw that via xda yeah maybe i can find it xda cursor cursor peep cursor peep is that what it's called

30:48Luke Lafreniere:i don't know that's what hamnetics said i i haven't heard of this so i'm it sounds a little creepy not gonna lie but it runs locally theoretically it runs locally uh of course

31:00Linus Sebastian:of people that's not a no so that's not the name of it man i can't remember the name of it um yeah anyways it sounded kind of neat uh there's there's a and i and i'm fairly certain it it runs locally um this yeah my google foo is still strong it's a relatively small model and it's running locally but it's helpful theoretically i mean i haven't used it this is the vibe i got from looking through the article. Very cool. But there's cool stuff you can do with local hosting. And honestly, for a lot of the use cases people have, you don't need the massive, super powerful models. You can just run some stuff locally and it can still be helpful.

31:44Luke Lafreniere:Try it out. In other sort of AI adjacent news, I don't know if this counts as good news, except that it means that I was right, which I never mind. It's good for you. Elon Musk confirmed on Tesla's Q1 2026 earnings call what he had hedged about on a previous earning call in January 2025. He has confirmed now that every Tesla sold between 2019 and 2023 that had their Hardware 3 hardware cannot achieve unsupervised full self-driving and never will. This time there was no hedging. This is a quote. Hardware 3 simply does not have the capability. this is not a quote, owners would need both a new computer and new cameras if they were to upgrade to hardware four.

32:34Luke Lafreniere:As recently, this is interesting, as recently as October 2025, Tesla's own CFO was still telling investors, we have not completely given up on hardware three. I'm going to go off notes for a little bit here. Duh!

32:58that was off notes we just need to make sure do you remember me telling you nobody typed that

33:03Luke Lafreniere:do you remember me telling you a year ago that i got in that argument with that guy at someone's birthday party where i was like yeah hey i know you're like a finance bro or whatever and you're like really good at being a finance bro but don't you think at some point the liability of selling millions of cars based on that they have a feature that they like completely f***ing don't have and will never ever have is going to be a problem that might affect the like finance bro care about sphere of finance i realize that everything i'm saying is very very complicated but like this computer no dewey thing you say dewey may be bad timey um what are they gonna do about it do they say they haven't um we can hold on let me get back to the notes for a second here the core problem is memory bandwidth hardware 3 has one eighth of what hardware 4 offers which musk says makes it physically impossible to run the ai models needed for true autonomy many of these owners paid up to fifteen thousand dollars for full self-driving based on the promise that it was just a software update away multiple class action lawsuits have already been filed.

34:15Luke Lafreniere:Now, I want to make something clear. I obviously seem a little, let's call it, validated right now. That's not because I'm rooting against autonomous vehicles. It's not because I'm even rooting against Tesla. It's because I like seeing liars get their comeuppance, and he was obviously lying. Hardware 3. I remember talking about this way back then. hardware 3 even if it was years and years ahead of its competition was a small chip compared to what other leaders in the space were building like nvidia at the time and they were like not close it just obviously was not powerful enough obviously and there's no way that tesla hasn't known this for years because if it was good enough to do full self-driving do you really think that they would go to all the work to make a new chip why that's not how the automotive industry works when they have something that performs the function they want it to perform they keep making the same one because that's way cheaper or they do what like a console manufacturer might do where midlife they will move it to a new process mode in order to take advantage of better power efficiency uh and better um better uh thermal management they don't just build something that has eight times the memory bandwidth for fun.

35:52Luke Lafreniere:Musk says that Tesla will offer discounted trade-ins towards hardware for cars or direct retrofits, but admits the volume is so massive that service centers can't handle it. His solution is building micro factories in major cities to run the upgrades like production lines, though no timeline, no cost, and no concrete details were given. There's a Linus note on this one. This is actually the second time he's admitted that Hardware 3 is not going to be able to do it. The last time was a tweet, though. This time was in an earnings call where, you know, maybe it matters, but probably doesn't. It's been very remarkable for me to watch how many times obvious lies have been told in contexts where like legally you're not allowed to lie like that.

36:43Luke Lafreniere:And this company just has not been called on it. And I just, I find the whole thing very, very baffling. I often get asked, you know, why do you hate Elon? I don't hate Elon, but I don't respect people who don't respect me enough to look me in the eye and tell me the truth. If you can look me in the eye and lie to me over and over and over and over again, why should i respect you in return you're just a liar and to me it's it's one of the worst things you can be to have no integrity and to just to just brazenly lie i don't respect it

37:27Linus Sebastian:do you think there's any room for him having hope that they could make it somehow wildly more efficient and adapted or something so here's my thing because why would he's gonna have to announce it eventually why would he wait he's either what's the benefit in doing it now instead

37:44Luke Lafreniere:of a few years ago um the benefit of doing it now is they've kind of pivoted to new shiny with optimus robots and stuff um like it's it's about it's about managing the mood as much as it is about or even more than it is about you know financial results or actual product development or anything like that. It's about keeping people chill with the vibe. So this is right in the lead up to the SpaceX IPO, which is going to have him in the news for positive reasons again. So a quiet, yeah, that's not going to work, but like we've got all these ideas for a plan. By the way, SpaceX, SpaceX, SpaceX. It's just, it's part of the grift, right?

38:26Luke Lafreniere:It's part of the game to just kind of keep things going. and you know as for do i think that there's a world where he really believed that it was one quarter away well i would it would have to be one of two things either he's a liar or he's stupid and i don't know i'll let him pick which one he wants to be because there's no way that someone with all the experience running tech companies that he has would have any way of thinking possibly like when it's so obvious to a you know pathetic youtuber like me there's no way that he didn't have people internally telling him hey this isn't gonna happen um so he's either a liar or he's an idiot and so i don't know you guys can pick which one it is but those are the only two options if he actually believed that it was coming next quarter then he's a fool and if he didn't believe it then he's clearly a liar.

39:25Luke Lafreniere:So those are only two choices here. David needs to speak to me. Okay. Luke, do you want to pick a topic? Probably something I can grab. David apologizes in advance. He doesn't mean it.

39:44Linus Sebastian:What should we talk about? I'm going to steal this topic. Xbox drops Game Pass prices as Call of Duty officially exits service's day one launch slate strategy. Now, this is a thing where it doesn't mean... That was really fast. Are you back good? You're back for good? Yes. Okay, got it.

40:10Luke Lafreniere:I didn't even have time to finish crunching that chip outside of the microphone range. No, I do actually have a quick update for you guys. David needed to cut down the length of the Shipstorm call-out in our upcoming video that he was working on. So in order to make up for it, it's going to be a shorter one. I need you guys to buy more stuff from Shipstorm on WAN Show. Dan can handle it. Okay.

40:36Linus Sebastian:Carry on. So we were talking about how Xbox drops its price as Call of Duty is exiting the day one launch strategy thing. So Xbox has officially dropped the price of Game Pass Ultimate from$30 to$23 a month. That's actually huge. What the heck? yeah that's enormous effective immediately with PC Game Pass also falling from $16.50 to$14 but there's a big catch new Call of Duty titles will no longer be launched day one on the service instead they'll show up about a year later that's kind of a yikes during the following holiday season with the COD released schedule that basically means it's not on there you can play the single player I guess or you can play like

41:18Luke Lafreniere:you can play COD with your friends or you can play like poor poor people cod and be ostracized like when you think about the social pressure of having like the one that everyone's playing that's basically that's basically the

41:31Linus Sebastian:divide that they're creating here that's a really interesting line because like is it so they're saying seven dollars less per user is worth it if people are still going to buy full

41:44Luke Lafreniere:fat cod outside of that yeah this this gives us insight that we would not have any other way yeah that's very interesting like how much of the like the cost of game pass is just call of duty

42:01Linus Sebastian:is that wild or what well at least what they think it is yeah at least at least what they're

42:05Luke Lafreniere:projecting it's not like they haven't had a call of duty launch on game pass so it's yeah it's got some pretty good information i'm sure it's based on something that's that's pretty crazy i know

42:16Linus Sebastian:uh the new microsoft gaming ceo xbox ceo uh person said like oh game pass is too expensive but i don't think this is just altruistic i think it's gonna be a business move

42:27Luke Lafreniere:yeah she's actually been seemingly doing some pretty based stuff so far moves she's at least

42:33Linus Sebastian:saying that she's making so far yeah i know i was i was pretty tentative on her because she came from AI background. Yeah. But yeah, the statements I've seen so far are good. The like, we are Xbox, we should drop the whole Microsoft gaming thing was dope. Did you see the new Xbox logo? No.

42:50Luke Lafreniere:Dude. It's badass. Yo. So the... It's back. Yeah, the like this thing is gone.

42:58Linus Sebastian:Good. And this is back. That's so good.

43:00Luke Lafreniere:That's sick. So, I don't know.

43:03Linus Sebastian:Keep making good moves and maybe one singular thing out of microsoft lately will be good i'm willing to be i'm willing to be open-minded on that you know uh but yeah i mean game game pass price drop is is sweet um the the new logo looks fantastic the whole idea of really centralizing around xbox instead of microsoft gaming is is

43:25Luke Lafreniere:great she made a statement she made a statement about like you know games being human crafted which I thought was pretty chill.

43:33Linus Sebastian:Cool, sweet. Yep. Did you finish all of this, reading through all of it? No.

43:37Luke Lafreniere:Oh, okay. Sorry, carry on.

43:39Linus Sebastian:This comes just days after the new Microsoft CEO, Ash Sharma, leaked, Ash, sorry, Ash Sharma, leaked memo called Game Pass Too Expensive. The price hike to$30 only happened in October 2025, one month before Black Ops 7 launched. Okay, so it was raised for that, so I just loaded it back down. That's fine. For context, Bloomberg reports day one COD access cost Microsoft over$300 million in lost sales last year. Yikes. Black Ops 7 launched sales down over 60 % in some markets. Wild. Microsoft spent$69 billion to buy Call of Duty, put it on Game Pass, hiked the price to cover it, and is now pulling it back out.

44:22Linus Sebastian:Was the whole thing worth it? I mean, it could be.

44:27Luke Lafreniere:Dude, we're at the point now where the billions of dollars for company acquisitions have gotten just crazy. Remember when Twitch sold for$1 billion and everyone went, whoa! Okay, for context, Twitch, while not a moneymaker, is a strong brand with strong recognizability for younger people. with countless users. Like it's a hyper-powerful social media video platform and it sold for a billion dollars. And then it was just like, what was it? Like 10 years later or whatever else that Twitter sold for 44 billion. And, you know, I just, it's, yeah. Are you talking about this 1.75 trillion or whatever?

45:21Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. Okay, so SpaceX acquires Cursor for$60 billion.

45:27Linus Sebastian:They have the right to. They haven't actually done it yet. But Cursor has been like, you can buy us for$60 billion.

45:36Luke Lafreniere:But are we just reaching a point where these numbers are just kind of pure silliness with absolutely no attachment whatsoever to business reality? Or is that point well in the rearview mirror behind us? I think it's behind us, to be completely honest. I would sell Linus Media Group for$60 billion. I'd sell the right to acquire Linus Media Group for$60 billion. No problem. I bet I'm more profitable than them.

46:05Linus Sebastian:It's just as legitimately on paper as the memory purchases from Sam Altman. Yeah, exactly. Amaker in FullPaintChast said, As a British Indian, I can confirm it's pronounced more like A-Shah. Thank you. Sounds good.

46:21Luke Lafreniere:was it worth it wild because i mean technically they did get more than just call of duty there was candy crush saga world of warcraft whatever stuff blizzard is pissing away um

46:39Linus Sebastian:i've heard people are happy with the the new stuff oh yeah i don't even remember what it's

46:45Luke Lafreniere:called latest candies no the wow stuff oh really uh midnight midnight okay well that's cool yeah

46:53Linus Sebastian:oh okay well only cool says yeah new wow good overwatch is apparently also like i think since they just gave up on the whole two stuff it's been getting more traction again which is interesting wow rob phil says starcraft tabletop game coming what

47:13Luke Lafreniere:shwat interesting please don't tell me it's just risk you have my attention

47:20Linus Sebastian:you know game inspired tabletop games have been doing pretty well lately actually

47:27Luke Lafreniere:starcrafttmg.com maybe the page will load about oh i'm on it my page loaded nice okay what am i

47:36Linus Sebastian:what am i what am i looking at here what am i looking table shop miniatures game so is it warhammer these are very concept arty 60 to 120 minutes it's warhammer oh okay i mean sure oh it sure

47:54Luke Lafreniere:is warhammer oh okay so they're just chasing that warhammer money yeah apparently them warhammer

48:04Linus Sebastian:gamers got them monies all right my god i mean they don't call it warhammer 401k for a reason

48:12Luke Lafreniere:that's pretty good i've never heard that before i haven't either that is pretty good that's good

48:17Linus Sebastian:that's good yeah okay okay okay are you gonna load a price please i don't think it's gonna

48:22Luke Lafreniere:happen all right well anyway good luck with that blizzard yeah um yeah let's uh let let's let's do let's do a thing let's all right uh where do i find that oh i already i already kind of did that though i mean sure let's remind the people that shipstorm is live on lttstore.com we are fighting back against shipping costs that are out of control thanks to rising fuel costs by giving you guys free shipping if you're on the u.s store any order over 150 u.s dollars qualifies for free shipping and if you're on the worldwide store any order over 225 Canadian dollars qualifies for free shipping. No code required, just load up your cart and you are good to go.

49:12Luke Lafreniere:The best part is if you are a Floatplane supporter plus, so that's over at lmg.gg slash floatplane, you'll get an even lower threshold. So this is a perfect time to sign up for Floatplane. All you have to do is sign up for, I believe it's the$13 a month tier and that will push your minimums down to$100 US or$175 Canadian. on the global site to help you reach these thresholds we've got some sweet deals for you we have buy more save more on blank tees uh scribe driver pen and pencils for just 20 bucks free tech sack if you buy a commuter or ltt original backpack in the u.s and it's running from april 24th to may 7th so don't wait for the storm to pass get in there now uh what else am i supposed to be doing dan a couple comms if you want oh right okay right and if you if you send if you place your order now, then it's a perfect time to send a com, a checkout message.

50:08Luke Lafreniere:We don't believe in sort of throwing money at your screen, just, you know, in hopes that maybe your favorite streamer senpai will notice you. We think that it's great for us to be able to interact with you guys, but we also want you to get quality merchandise in the mail. So, we created checkout messages, which are the best way to interact with the WAN show. All you gotta do is head over to lttstore.com. Luke's on it. add some terrific quality merchandise to your cart. You went to LTT Labs.com. Yeah, shameless plug. Shameless plug. Nice, nice. New site, by the way. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The new site is live.

50:45Luke Lafreniere:Now's a great time to go just like browse the site and check out all the cool stuff. The team worked super hard on this. By the way, the multi-pocket leggings, dude, smash hit. Oh, yeah. Do you remember me talking about like, hey, we really need this to be a success or like women's apparel might not be a thing? Dude, they're gone.

51:01Linus Sebastian:classic lt store fashion try to get some for for friends and family they're gone

51:08Luke Lafreniere:so many sizes are sold out so if you want to have a shot at them now's a great time to go check it out anyway i don't know throw a scribe driver in the cart so all you got to do is throw something in your cart and you will see the checkout message interface you can leave a message that'll go to producer dan who will reply to it or he will uh just pop it up like that one that's up at the top right now or he will curate it for me and luke to respond to by the way there's a new dashboard where you can see your checkout messages how do people access that uh where is it so just in case you miss the little you know the little pop-up like this um i think it's at the bottom

51:52Linus Sebastian:here there's a spot somewhere yeah so if we go to my screen checkout message portal right here yeah

51:58Luke Lafreniere:so if you're signed in there you go noise that is that is like the geekiest 1990s how many page visits my geo city site has received thing that i have seen in forever i actually kind of like it oh yeah that's pretty cool that's very cool all right anyway uh dan do you want to show us how it works by uh curating a couple of checkout messages for us uh before hold on before you do that though uh david gauthier's neighbor joseph is apparently a huge ltt fan and it's his birthday this week oh happy birthday joseph happy birthday joseph david never asked for anything like that so when he was like hey it would mean a lot to me if you could shout out joseph i was like yes sure thing sir all right dan hit me sure thing happy storm sale dll can you please tell the story of what happened to the moto shirt i was going to buy one as a gift for my employee.

52:54Luke Lafreniere:Only one. It's all that was deserving. No, I can't. Okay. Sorry, what was the question? The moto shirt is no longer on the site. Oh! Yeah.

53:11Linus Sebastian:Up next.

53:12Luke Lafreniere:At some point, I may or may not know what I may or may not be able to say about it.

53:22Luke Lafreniere:but it is not this day how has the process for vetting sponsors evolved over time any learnings you care to share yeah actually i mean i think in the very early days we didn't really have a lot of choice it was it was pretty much whoever was in my rolodex from my time at ncix and you know was willing to go to bat for me and and try to try to allocate some of the budget that at the time would have been predominantly allocated to like written media for this like newfangled YouTube sponsorships thing. It's still wild to me how long the transition took and even now as has continued to take given how data heavy video is and how sort of like obviously more trustworthy those metrics are compared to more traditional mediums like Like, magazines, like, I've talked about this on The Land Show before, but did you know that the way that magazines calculate how much you're paying for ads assumes that that magazine gets read cover to cover, like, six times or something like that?

54:28Luke Lafreniere:Like, newspapers, too, like, they would calculate that every newspaper passed through multiple people's hands and that every person who looked at it looked at every single ad like it was crazy. whereas with video we had you know the world's biggest advertising company with the most sort of as far as i could tell trustworthy analytics saying hey you got this many views and people just like they weren't into it they weren't interested in it so for a long time it was whoever would go to bat for me and and would you know get us the support to to to sponsor the videos and then from there there was a big transition to uh like radio advertisers were moving into podcasting and then from podcasting it's a pretty natural transition into like video podcasts and then from there a lot of those folks like the square spaces of the world uh the like dollar shave clubs of the world made their way into into youtube um from there that model proved so successful for companies like Dollar Shave Club that in growing their business that I think over time it just became sort of part of the playbook.

55:39Luke Lafreniere:And so nowadays, like I was at a conference recently for YouTubers and YouTube executives. It's over now, so I can disclose that it existed. And one of the big things that YouTube was talking about, that other creators are talking about, is like major brand partnerships. You know, one talked about working with McDonald's. They showed this example of like a collaboration between State Farm and like a more athletic oriented YouTuber who tried to kick like a whole bunch of field goals or something like that. So nowadays you have kind of a ton of choice.

56:17Linus Sebastian:I think one way did a State Farm thing.

56:19Luke Lafreniere:So you got a ton of choice these days. And so back to your question about vetting, I guess what I'll say is in the early days, we didn't really have to because it was all brands that we like already were intimately familiar with the product or the people and so we like we knew or later on it was super established brands who if they had a bunch of really awful skeletons in their closet they would uh it would have come up at some point in the podcasting world which is like kind of a more sort of professional old school media space and then now that your inbox at any given time if you're a a mid-sized or up creator is just going to be full of sponsorship opportunities, it's a ton of work.

56:57Luke Lafreniere:So I got to give a ton of credit to both our business team and our community. So we actually, I think the team does a quite good job of just sort of doing background checks on sponsors that we work with. And I also think our community does a really good job of highlighting things that arise with the brands that we're working with that don't align with our values and with our expectations, which I think in turn elevates the perception of the brands that do meet the bar and that do work with, you know, Linus Media Group. So, you know, for us, our brand selection really comes down to that they operate with integrity, that they take care of our viewers.

57:42Luke Lafreniere:Like if one of our viewers comes to us and basically goes like yeah this this brand screwed me over like i got scammed um and i have receipts you know that's something that we want to know and we have feedback we have a feedback forum for that at linus tech tips.com on the forum um and that's that's a that's a huge part of it just maintaining that that accountability and that integrity all the way uh all the way up and down

58:06Linus Sebastian:this is super off topic but you're talking about dollar shave club and i realized that i haven't heard about them in freaking forever. I just looked it up and like, they do still exist, but I was like genuinely somewhat surprised by that. I find it really interesting. Certain companies, maybe even certain products. I looked it up. Apparently a dollar shave club is under capital management now. So like, okay, whatever. Um, but certain companies, they just sort of stop eventually? I find this especially in like, you know, like... Well, they run out of VC capital. Snacks and certain like grocery

58:45Luke Lafreniere:stores stuff. Yeah, like Madrinas just was like spending money like there was no tomorrow and then suddenly there was no tomorrow.

58:50Linus Sebastian:Yeah, but even like... Savage Jerky? Is that another example? No, I'm talking even big brand stuff. Oh, sure. Even if you're like under the Coke umbrella or something.

59:04Luke Lafreniere:Oh my god. Madrinas not only still exist but they have a dave the diver like what what what is this is it like an energy powder thing that's hilarious all right squid flavor sure sure why not um but there will

59:20Linus Sebastian:be like some think of some like snack that would have been advertised on tv like crazy when we were kids and then you never hear about it on any form of advertisement ever in many years but it's still I was a child. Dunkaroos adds like every channel when I was growing up.

59:37Luke Lafreniere:Dunkaroos, Dunkaroos, get as much frosting as you choose.

59:41Linus Sebastian:I'm sure Dunkaroos still exist. But like it's, yeah, for sure. It's weird to me though that they'll just stop at some point. They will just completely turn off the advertising pipeline.

59:58Luke Lafreniere:But you can't call it a nostalgic snack and then shape the cookie like that. It was a foot. Ugh. Terrible.

1:00:10Linus Sebastian:Literally inedible. I don't know if I had Dunkaroos. But yeah, there was ads for them everywhere, and then they just stopped. There's a ton of things like that, too. When you walk through the grocery store, it's like almost a weird, if you go through mostly the boxed goods area, obviously, it's kind of a weird experience of like, oh, yeah, I remember ads for that thing like 20 years ago. I've never heard of it ever since, other than it just being on the shelf. um it's just interesting to me like how these if it's coke i kind of understand because you probably have an r &d group that's for just like all of your different product lines and they'll just release some stuff kind of whatever but if you're a relatively smaller company like what you just like fire everyone and stop but you just keep making your product i guess i literally don't know apparently there were lots of different shapes of dunk interesting

1:01:01Luke Lafreniere:Interesting. I'm finding other shapes of Dunkaroos. Coke also has murder squads to help. Yeah, I'm not endorsing them. That's a whole separate thing. Yeah. To be clear. Happened in a whole separate country, completely out of your jurisdiction. So what are you going to do about it?

1:01:13Linus Sebastian:Throw it out of court. It's a wild story if you want to go down a rabbit hole.

1:01:17Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, it really is. Okay. Oh, speaking of brands sort of doing things that are not always totally predictable. Or wait, do you still owe us another comm? Oh, no, we're moving into topics now. I mean, we could do another one. I would probably prefer that. We have quite a few. Okay. All right, let's do one more. I am looking at possibly getting a new handheld. I know Linus has a large variety of them. I have the OG Steam Deck. Is it worth it to upgrade to something different? Money is not in consideration. Oh, I mean, yeah, sure. If money's not in consideration, buy one of each. Okay, I know people don't...

1:01:53Luke Lafreniere:I hate it when they say that. People never really mean that money is not a consideration. money is always a consideration you could literally be shopping for a private jet and money would still be a consideration because there's there's degrees of copious amount of money but okay i'm gonna i'm gonna assume that what you meant is that you could fit into your budget any one handheld and if that's the case i gotta tell you that i haven't yet seen my perfect Steam Deck upgrade. There are handhelds that are bigger. There are handhelds that are better. There are faster, rather. There are ones that have features that the Steam Deck doesn't have.

1:02:45Luke Lafreniere:You know, like if you wanted an OLED screen, you could get this one. Or if you wanted better compatibility. Yeah, but they have an original Steam Deck, though. if you wanted more compatibility there's ones that run windows if you wanted one with detachable like joy-con things that have like mice in them lenovo has one that does that like there's you name a gimmick somebody has it if you want one that has like ergo grips there's the xbox ally series x ally thing um you know something like that right but valve keeps saying hey we need like next generation level hardware in order to rev the Steam Deck, in order to do a Steam Deck 2.

1:03:30Luke Lafreniere:And Valve keeps holding off. And I kind of, it's hard for me to disagree with them. Now, with that said, I do daily a more powerful handheld. I have an ROG Ally that's actually my daily driver, which is crazy because I actually have an Xbox ROG Ally X, whatever it's called thing in my house that i don't use because and this is going to be crazy sounding when i'm playing handheld i actually prefer the flat deck compared to the like the like ergo grip thing or at least i don't prefer the grips enough to be worth how much extra space it takes up in my backpack i think it's uh okay that's a pretty interesting argument do you think it's hand size i think that's part of it but i think it's also just like that the ergo grip thing is like perfect for playing like this and i don't always play like this okay sometimes i'm lying on my tummy yeah sometimes i roll over onto my back and and the flat deck just works a little better for me so that ally that i upgraded on short circuit with the j so upgraded battery and then the new back on it so it's a little bit heavier is is actually still my preferred handheld out of out of all of them even though it's like an like an older it's an older handheld sir but

1:04:49Linus Sebastian:it checks out you know my favorite i i never played it laying down looking up um but my my favorite for ergonomics handheld if you can even call it that was that the the wii u controller Oh, yeah. I really liked the feel. That's one of the reasons why I was a little frustrated with the Switch when it first came out. I was like, I get it. The Wii U controller is really bulky. Oh, yeah. Because it was set up for a home console.

1:05:16Luke Lafreniere:The Switch is practically pocketable by comparison. Yeah.

1:05:19Linus Sebastian:But it just didn't feel like my hands were very cramped on the original Switch.

1:05:23Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. I mean, my hands were cramped on the original Switch. Okay. okay with that said there is there is a handheld that uh you know it is is next generation in terms of performance but you would be spending uh yeah here hold on what does a win five go for right now here it is gpdstore.net okay nine reviews okay people mostly are pretty into it okay that's good to know this guy's a little disappointed but still gave it three stars all right what's a win five worth right now two grand that's not even the top configuration that is the base configuration one terabyte of storage that's actually the one that's the most painful to me like okay i want two terabytes of storage so excuse sorry excuse me another four hundred dollars storage is so ridiculous right now um that's rough i want to go to a ryzen ai max 395 oh oh that'll be sorry that'll be$2 ,800 sir also okay you also get I mean honest oh wow okay well I would take I would certainly take the 64 gigs RAM 2 terabyte storage and the better CPU over the 4 terabytes 32 and then lower CPU because these ones it's not just the CPU that's where that's worse for this one it's also the GPU so this is the more powerful GPU so yeah yeah you're spending uh 2800 us dollars and and it's barely handheld dude it has like this like battery pack thing that weighs a flippin ton that clips onto the back of it or how i usually ended up using

1:07:03Linus Sebastian:it was with the weird tether yeah the t especially the tether if you're like commuting on a train or something with a lot of your time which i suspect a lot of handheld bros are commuting on trains or buses or whatever i could see that being fine to be honest yeah so here's the tether it's oh it's pretty that's weirder than i expected it's because it's just the battery it looks like it was for

1:07:27Luke Lafreniere:like a platform or something am i seeing that wrong in the picture so this is the clip interface here that sticks onto the battery interface that is on the back of this battery and is on the back of the machine okay and then it just like goes to an umbilical cord to the back of the thing so it can be like this or it can be like this and so yeah is there something better than the steam deck like yeah there's lots of things that are better than the steam deck in some way but there is in my opinion nothing that is better than the steam deck in every way and that's that's tough that makes it tough for me to recommend something and without like knowing you and knowing exactly what you're after and i can see why it makes it tough for valve to go okay here's steam deck two

1:08:16Linus Sebastian:yeah and especially now amidst the apocalypse yeah i don't blame valve for waiting at all i think it makes sense i think it makes sense um i think my time i i'm like i've already kind of convinced myself i'm gonna buy a steam deck two when they get announced like right off the hop um that i feel like it's too late to get one now yet out of all of them that's the one that i want right now if that makes sense so i have i have my switch too i'm just gonna hang on to that i was contemplating selling it but no i'm just gonna hang on to that and then uh when the when the steam deck 2 finally comes out i'm assuming it's gonna be another like two years um hopefully not

1:08:58Luke Lafreniere:much more than that i think two years sounds about right yeah because by then we'll be like well into steam machine and steam frame life cycle so they'll have had some time because realistically ain't no way that the steam machine steam frame team is not pivoting to steam deck 2 once they're done so give them a year to get everything kind of going with those yeah and then there's no way that they don't get some resources for steam deck 2 and then make that

1:09:27Linus Sebastian:happen oh hi josh posted uh do you play games that are too much for steam deck it might still be worth it that is a super interesting question that i've i've had some conversations with actually some people in the labs about of like that's a super fair point if you want to play belatro if it's a belatro machine anyways do it and who cares what does it matter it could be a fun video for for you guys to make is like 90 steam deck however many years later 95 no not 95 but like

1:09:57Luke Lafreniere:85 % of my hours on my Ally or Steam Deck over the years are tape to tape.

1:10:03Linus Sebastian:I could have played that on anything. Yeah. Another angle and this was not my idea. I don't remember who said it but maybe it was even you. I have genuinely no memory of who said this but if you could somehow get the original or close to the original version of SteamOS on it and compare the performance then to now i don't know if we benchmarked it at the time i don't really think so uh there'd be someone

1:10:32Luke Lafreniere:might have there'd be so many variables i think someone might have actually done this oh maybe i don't know um wasn't it nvidia only though and like i think maybe you could like hack in radeon support i i don't remember the details well enough i'd have to they should know for the steam deck For the Steam? No, no, I'm talking original SteamOS. No, I'm not. Oh, you mean SteamOS 3, but like the first version of SteamOS 3. I meant, yeah, the first version for the Steam Deck.

1:11:02Linus Sebastian:Got it. I thought you meant like... I didn't say that. It's my bad. Sorry, the one from like 14 years ago. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. Or 10 years ago or whatever it was. Yeah, that'd be a little honest. I more mean like what performance changes have happened. Like deep diving, what is it like to own a Steam Deck this many years in? I think it would be kind of fun. so like how much performance gain have you had from updates or lack thereof who knows but i think it would be gain um how is your like hey let's look at like the the top 10 games that are compatible with steam deck yeah in terms of players right now how well is it performing um on the steam deck like is this still a highly viable device for most people stuff like that i think it'd be kind of fun a little interesting i think it's a cool idea we have so many video

1:11:45Luke Lafreniere:ideas on the docket right now.

1:11:46Linus Sebastian:Issue is BIOS updates would be difficult to downgrade. Yeah, we'd have to try to find like an unboxed one or something. It wouldn't be an easy thing to do. Yeah. But it could be kind of fun.

1:11:55Luke Lafreniere:I feel like that's the kind of thing that Valve, if they weren't so flipping busy right now, might even be interested in helping us with. Like, hey, could you guys, can we ship you a Steam Deck and can you please put it back in like, there's no way they don't have it somewhere.

1:12:10Linus Sebastian:My expectation is that there's actually been some pretty massive jumps in performance. Looking at like the things that have happened oh definitely no ever since the original launch so that could be like honestly a really good thing for them to have something that'd be a good thing for us to have

1:12:25Luke Lafreniere:is a more coherent strategy for how we're transitioning to the wanshow channel i think we may have to just pull the plug on streaming wanshow to ltt because right now it's causing a lot of confusion for people we go live and we have a separate vod on the linus tech tips channel and on the wan show channel and i gotta say i'm actually surprised and impressed with how much of the community has flipped over to wan show channel it's almost it's not quite 50 50 but it's like getting there a lot faster than i thought so when show channels around five uh views that's views okay and then

1:13:06Linus Sebastian:the live cycling in and out one is the far left one yeah okay yeah so i think we we might just have to like we might just have to do it sometime soon here i didn't foresee this but it totally makes sense yeah the second someone told me like oh there's there's two in my feed this sucks i was

1:13:24Luke Lafreniere:like oh yeah i'm really sorry we we do need to co-stream for a little while but guys uh if you are watching on linus tech tips channel right now please sooner rather than later get subscribed over on The WAN Show. So go look for the channel. It used to be the LMG Clips channel. We rebranded it. Go subscribe over on The WAN Show. We got to get everybody moved over there sooner rather than later, or you will not see WAN Show anymore. And the reason for it is it's a business reason. Luke and I are now 50 % co-owners of The WAN Show, which means it's got to get off of the LTT channel in order to secure its long-term future.

1:14:01Luke Lafreniere:Thank you, WAN Show, for your service. um all right let's jump right into our next topic here which is oh lord should we do it let's talk about it amd's ryzen 9 9950 x3d2 dual edition launch if you were wondering how the chip performs uh it's virtually identical to a 9800 x3d or 9950 x3d in gaming it got a four to five percent improvement in productivity workloads like kind of creator focused stuff and in some science workloads it did even better than that but for most people it doesn't really make sense unless you see it as maybe kind of like a like a budget workstation cpu for folks who can't afford the a thread ripper and also don't need the pcie lanes and also don't need the you know insane memory bandwidth the thread ripper and don't need the upgrade path to many, many, many more cores.

1:14:59Luke Lafreniere:Don't need, you know, registered DIMMs. They just can use ECCU DIMMs. There's a lot of compromises using it as a budget workstation, but there is an argument to be made there. Of course, with such a... Sorry, excuse me. Interesting launch. Naturally, the more exciting component of it in the community has been the discourse around AMD's sampling strategy, which... You can tell the CPU was not super interesting. Well, can you? Because some reviewers felt that they were left out. You know what? I'm just going to read the thing.

1:15:46Luke Lafreniere:In our communications with AMD, we were told that they had limited units and wanted to focus on developers. before sending units to reviewers. That seems to be a message that did not quite line up with their strategy because some very gaming-focused channels, like Hardware Unboxed, were provided with samples. This confusion has led some to assume that AMD was preferentially ceding to friendly reviewers or even blacklisting certain publications. TechPowerUp noted that even retail partners had received instructions specifically to not provide any units to publications for review. Sourcing review units from retailers is a pretty common practice and has at times been approved by AMD in the past.

1:16:28Luke Lafreniere:Igor's lab criticized how this sort of selective sampling hurts consumers because they don't have access to the broad amount of data they usually would to make an informed decision. One of our fellow channels in the industry released a video stating they believe they've been blacklisted by AMD. This came from GN, who said, AMD excluded us not only from sampling, but from information about the announcement. They also noted that they have been moved to a third-party PR agency rather than communicating with AMD directly. So as for our side, we also are communicating with AMD through a third-party agency.

1:17:08Luke Lafreniere:The agency did get in touch, and they did answer some technical questions before launch. They were not timely about it. and they did not provide us with a chip. I have in my notes how we got our chip. It apparently fell off the back of a truck just outside of Smash Champs, our affiliated badminton club. So that's really fortunate, actually. And in summary, no, AMD did not blacklist anybody because we didn't get a chip. Basically, this comes down to their sampling strategy was different for some reason weird what it looks like to me is regional so outside of the north america region youtubers seem to have gotten samples and then within the north america region it looks like they went for more written media for reasons that are amds and amds alone i have not seen any evidence that amd is selectively ceding to publications that are more likely to

1:18:11Linus Sebastian:favorable big company problems to you oh 100 so so one region's office had a strategy and it didn't necessarily match other regions that's what it kind of looks like to me because

1:18:23Luke Lafreniere:obviously we are not blacklisted by amd i mean we partner with amd on a very regular basis they literally buy five thousand dollar tech upgrades for you know our employees homes like we're we're in constant communication with amd but we were told yeah we're not we're not ceding this cpu to you um so i don't know man there other than just hey big companies do big company things sometimes i don't think there's there's too much to read into this one seems like a weird move i i'm not

1:18:59Linus Sebastian:like crazy surprised just because i suspect they probably kind of knew how this news would go um um but in general i would still you know i would still like to see all of the cpus go to cpu reviewers

1:19:16Luke Lafreniere:yes and i mean but it's all it's never even been a thing like think back to like how intel has done their seating for a lot of their like series launches where they sent like this chip and this chip and sometimes it really seems like like self-owning like remember when they launched core ultra on the desktop and they sent us like the worst ones i sure do and we're just like hey do you want to sell these or not because these ones are clearly the cool ones and we literally can't put them on our benchmark charts because y 'all didn't cede them to us that was super weird like man i don't know man big companies do big company like dumb stuff all the time and um maybe i'm just maybe i'm just used to it

1:20:00Linus Sebastian:maybe it's this this does seem like i don't know x3d specifically yeah has like a very alluring pull to the to the tech enthusiast crowd i feel like not including it to video or written reviewers is a little bit odd and again i understand that this chip is also a little bit odd yeah so like maybe it's fine if i was with the naming it yeah if i was amd i'll be

1:20:32Luke Lafreniere:honest with you knowing what i know about this chip i might have seeded it to like i might have just not done it wendell and pharonix and then just like not bothered outside of that yeah because i because i i might be i might be interested in the perspective of someone who's you know more attuned to the to the the enterprise space and then someone who's like hyper attuned to like the linux and and like scientific space and then realistically yeah it's x3d and you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna throw that in the marketing because marketers got a market and they're gonna want to sell it to gamers because that's how big company do things but in terms of like caring about gaming outlets making a review of it i'd

1:21:15Linus Sebastian:probably have like zero zero cares yeah i mean based on the benchmarking that happened it's like yeah i would probably agree with you if they knew what was going on there yeah and i mean obviously

1:21:29Luke Lafreniere:a company like amd knows what their chip is before they release it which actually i shouldn't even say sometimes you do sometimes you really do have brands tell you they're like oh hey so do you love it i mean you're kind of like no it's slow and expensive and they're like what it's it's

1:21:48Linus Sebastian:fascinating to me that's just marketing pr teams being disconnected from technical it's gotta be that's usually the the understanding for me because like you remember the whole uh backplate thing was like gigabyte i think it was yeah it was a gigabyte with um gpu and the and the the board was like how could you and then the technical people were like yeah we knew yeah we didn't tell them that they just put that in the marketing yeah when they had like some kind of misleading marketing on their product yeah they said their copper backplate cooled the gpu by three degrees and it turns out that just having no backplate also cooled it by three degrees it was just their old backplate warmed the card by three degrees because it was so bad um so it was it was yeah anyways whatever you know what's not bad though ltt tools casually getting reviews on like pc

1:22:45Luke Lafreniere:gamer what the heck this came out of nowhere for me what right pc gamer do they have they reviewed any other tools i don't know ltt ratcheting screwdriver and precision pro multi-bit screwdriver review serious tools by jacob ridley published not on april 1st but actually on april the 8th so this was pretty sweet yeah this was a little while ago but i just thought this was pretty cool and it actually included an anecdote about an experience i don't remember meeting jacob but uh apparently we've we've at least crossed paths at some point because um apparently this was this was his his expectation from me i wasn't sure what to expect upon opening the youtuber branded boxes having once upon a time been at the same booth at a show as linus as he was loudly disagreeing with someone about quality control i had a pretty good feeling about the quality of the screwdrivers before they arrived that was a good assumption too as now they're in front of me they feel sturdy and well put together that's funny that's pretty good it was it's an interesting paragraph that really highlights i think why sometimes we do take what feels like a disproportionate amount of flax sometimes when we make a mistake because yeah that's what we do is we we point out things that are not good enough and when our job is to point out things that are not good enough for a living then people expect us to do the same bloody thing internally and it's uh it's funny because sometimes it would be easy to think about something like that and go you know oh that's that's too much pressure i wouldn't want to work somewhere like that but you know what's cool is i think our team actually embraces it in like a big

1:24:38Linus Sebastian:way sorry i'm not laughing at you um yeah no i think so i think they do sometimes our product development timelines are also really long. But this is probably part of why. At least part of why. Oh, dude. Dude. Dude.

1:24:55Luke Lafreniere:There's a product coming.

1:24:57Linus Sebastian:The battery bank? No. Oh, okay. Yeah. I was going to say, you put it in a video, you don't have to be... I tried the prototype. I have no idea what he's talking about. Yeah, you do. I do?

1:25:09Luke Lafreniere:It's the one. Really? Come on, man. Really? I tried the prototype. It f***ing slaps. Dude.

1:25:21Linus Sebastian:It's crazy. Oh, that one. Oh, yeah. You're that hyped about it. Dude. Okay.

1:25:27Luke Lafreniere:It's nuts. Hell yeah. I want to quadruple the order. Like, dude. Really? Dude. I don't even know what the quantity was. That's really exciting for me.

1:25:35Linus Sebastian:Just because I feel like I can't spoil it. But there's... Oh, we can't say it. It's too early. For the same reasons that he's really excited. It's too early. I'm really excited.

1:25:45Luke Lafreniere:did you try it did you try it no no no i'm talking to him i don't know no comment he thinks no comment no but did you try it i don't know if i have one or not no you don't have one okay you might be thinking of something else there's only one so nobody has one except someone then no okay okay no don't worry forget about dan i have not we'll never forget about dan we love dan but just in

1:26:09Linus Sebastian:this context in this yeah for now for now it's um dude i'm i'm very happy to hear that for a

1:26:17Luke Lafreniere:huge variety of reasons yeah yeah and i'll leave it there anyway the point is we have a really passionate team and we and we kind of we embrace those challenges anyway timeline for that is like it's tight yeah it's gonna be crazy yeah knock on wood knock on wood yeah um anyway the pc gamer review i thought it was pretty fair um cool i think there was yeah i think there was like one thing that I was like, oh, I think he might have kind of overlooked that, but it was like super, super minor. And I thought they, yeah, I thought they did a pretty good job. They compared it to sort of, you know, obvious things like the iFixit Protect Toolkit.

1:26:53Luke Lafreniere:Anyway, thanks Jacob for taking the time. Sweet. Appreciate you. What do we want to talk about next?

1:27:00Linus Sebastian:We're supposed to do another topic. It is not the coal bar hammer and guys, that is a never happening. That is a never happening situation oh yeah never happening uh every sk hynix employee could i think that's a bold could but could receive it might happen uh could receive 477 thousand dollar bonuses this year almost 900 ,000 next year apparently 35 ,000 workers are set out to benefit from a share of $169 billion in projected operating profit for the year. SK Hanex agreed last September to remove its previous bonus caps, hilarious timing, and allocate 10 % of annual operating profit directly to employees as performance bonuses, with analysts forecasting around$250 trillion, or$169 billion, I'm assuming, US dollars, in operating profit for 2026.

1:28:00Linus Sebastian:That works out to roughly the previously mentioned$477 ,000 per employee across its 35 ,000-person workforce, on top of the$95 ,000 in profit sharing already paid out in February. If profits keep climbing, bonuses could hit nearly$900 ,000 per person next year. The AI boom is driving all this. demand for HBM memory chips used in AI accelerators has sent memory prices through record highs and SK Hynix is the dominant supplier. The company's transparent bonus formula has become a recruiting weapon against Samsung, which is now facing its own crisis with over so this is the thing that I thought we were originally talking about for some reason, which is why I said maybe.

1:28:48Linus Sebastian:I guess the previous stuff is pretty locked in. The maybe stuff is this. So sorry, I had the wrong reaction there. Samsung's union

1:28:57Luke Lafreniere:over 30 000 samsung union members are demanding a similar deal with a strike

1:29:04Linus Sebastian:a strike date set for may 21st that's crazy a strike right now could seriously hurt earning potential this is this is a very interesting to watch samsung's union is pushing for 15 percent of operating profit pointing out that their bonuses currently amount to less than 30 percent of what comparable SK Hynix workers receive. Samsung management countered with 10%, which the union rejected. Dude, this is crazy to watch.

1:29:35Luke Lafreniere:This is like, this is some peak tier negotiating. Like, remember when we were talking about everything that was going on with like SAG-AFTRA and like in Hollywood, you know, down South. And I was talking about like kind of, you know, bold strategy cotton. Let's see how it works out for them because they were striking at a time when a lot of studios were actually paring back their productions and losing money on a lot of big tentpole projects. This is the hard opposite of that scenario. This is the timing you want. Yeah. You're a specialized worker in something that is absolutely b-b-b-banging.

1:30:16Linus Sebastian:There is a place making record profits that could definitely hire you in... yeah, could very easily definitely hire you. And I think they are.

1:30:28Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, no, they've been apparently taking advantage of this situation right now. Because from an SK Hynek standpoint, I can see why not. Because you're going to allocate 10 % of your annual operating profit. So what do you care as like at the management level? If the bubble pops. No, I just mean, what do you care at the management level if that 10 % is allocated across another thousand people. You don't give a shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Because no one's going to be complaining because as long as the profits go up, their next bonus check will be bigger anyway.

1:31:03Linus Sebastian:And it's going to be so freaking monstrous. So if they spread it across more people,

1:31:08Luke Lafreniere:they could basically just bleed some dry. Yeah, that's wild. Woo! Wild. Woo! This is going to be... this is going to be an interesting one. Yeah. And, you know, to your point that I think you were getting into, again, SK Hynix has nothing to lose here because if the bonus quantity is derived from operating profit, then when the bust inevitably happens...

1:31:38Linus Sebastian:On the other end of this, it just auto-scales down. It auto-scales down. Because it's still 10 % of annual operating profit, but if they're just not profiting as much, then it just goes down. So like realistically, the employees are winning super hard when the company's winning super hard. And then when the company isn't super winning super hard, it'll just, it'll automatically kind of correct itself. You don't have to have rough conversations with people about how their wages are going to go down. It's just. Well, we sold less RAM. So.

1:32:05Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. There you go. Dude, it's crazy the kind of scale that these companies work on. like the fact that they allocate only 10 of their annual operating profit to to like performance bonuses that's like that's crazy like ratio wise we are way above that for overall like how much we allocate of our operating profit to to compensation and yet this isn't to compensation

1:32:32Linus Sebastian:though no it is it's just performance bonuses i know oh but the performance bonuses are like the

1:32:37Luke Lafreniere:bulk of their comp now it's it like it's it's crazy i was looking now yeah yeah so like the fact that the fact that they have relatively only that amount allocated to employee compensation that's not true though that's what i'm saying it's a little more basically is what it amounts to so like that and a little more allocated and they're able to pay out base salary plus 477 thousand dollars per employee like the amount of money that memory manufacturing is making right now crazy is flipping insane yeah yeah flipping insane and sorry sorry sorry that last number was slightly wrong it's actually over 500 000 because that 477 000 was on top of 95 95 000 already yeah like it's the these wafers right if you've if you got the fab license to print money

1:33:42Linus Sebastian:luke yeah imagine getting it like you're just out of school and you get a job at one of these

1:33:46Luke Lafreniere:companies right now that's it i'm moving to seoul see you later hey guys i can do something

1:33:56Linus Sebastian:I swear

1:33:57Luke Lafreniere:I could do PR I could do PR for SK Hynix I could be their video guy

1:34:04Linus Sebastian:oh okay sure I don't know about PR yeah no you could do media

1:34:12Luke Lafreniere:we could change our company hey we could do what that shoe company did we raise a bunch of money and we do Rod's idea Linus Memory Group there you go

1:34:23Linus Sebastian:we'll build a fab

1:34:25Luke Lafreniere:just give me a small loan of a billion dollars and then we'll go, we'll build a memory fab. We got this.

1:34:30Linus Sebastian:Isn't their whole thing, they're not even building the fab, they're just like acquiring the hardware for you? So if you're building a fab and you need a bunch of GPUs, they will like get it for you. The shoe company? Yeah, I think that was their strategy.

1:34:40Luke Lafreniere:I think they're building, I think they want to build data centers and then like just lease access to them. Oh, gotcha. Have they crashed yet? Is that over?

1:34:48Linus Sebastian:Who knows?

1:34:50Luke Lafreniere:Was it? Hold on. Were they even called Allbirds? Oh yeah. Woo! Oh, yeah. Okay. So here was the thing. There's still... So yeah, they spiked to$17, and they're all the way down to$7 now. That's going to keep going. This is not financial advice, but that's going to keep going in that direction, in case anyone was wondering.

1:35:16Linus Sebastian:So there's like one stock that makes any amount of sense on the stock market?

1:35:21Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, I'm going for that's going to be the one. that actually performs according to its basic fundamentals. I believe you. Not financial advice, not financial advice.

1:35:32Linus Sebastian:I will take your financial advice. Thank you very much.

1:35:34Luke Lafreniere:Dan, don't think I don't see what you type in chat. What, is it apart from a bull? It goes, Linus is a bear confirmed. You're saying that it's going down. Yeah, don't think I don't know what that means, though. Just because I use a double entendre doesn't mean that it's not true financially. Not financial advice. Not employment advice either. Call your boss a bear.

1:36:00Luke Lafreniere:You're too skinny.

1:36:05Luke Lafreniere:Dude, I weigh so much right now. God. No, I definitely don't have the hair. These people. But I like weigh a lot now. I'm 174 pounds now. Take creatine. Way more. Take more. I don't want to weigh more than this. Way more. Way more.

1:36:19Linus Sebastian:No, I don't want to weigh more than this. Mass maxing Linus. No, I don't. We don't need that. Thighs as thick as anything. Yeah. Tree trunk Linus. Do you want thighs bigger than her or not?

1:36:32Luke Lafreniere:Bigger than Taylor Swift? No, I don't. Think of what we want. Do you want to win this or no? I don't. It's not a competition. Honestly, that's quitter energy. I think it should be. It's not a competition. That's quitter energy.

1:36:41Linus Sebastian:Linus watermelon crushing tips. Yeah. That should be next year's April Fool's as you relaunch the OnlyFans. And it's just videos of you crushing watermelons. Leggings for men? leggings that have like padded inner thighs

1:37:00Luke Lafreniere:they're like for normal people like they would not fit around the waist at all we'd have to create like a low friction space age material between the thighs so that they don't wear out from all the like I'm into it oh I thought you meant padding just so that when you're crushing watermelons like you know it doesn't hurt

1:37:19Linus Sebastian:oh sorry I understand what you're saying now we were not talking about the same thing

1:37:23Luke Lafreniere:You know, like elementary school, you had those planners with the cover that went like when you ran your nails over it. Put one of those on in the inside of each thigh. So that when you walk, it's like. Dude, that would be the like most 90s parachute pants. Yeah. They put little 3Ds on them too. Just your face going back and forth. That'd be great.

1:37:44Linus Sebastian:Write that down. Write that down. No, we're not writing any of this down. You won't gain that much though. And then in a lot of cases, you lose it afterwards. All right. You should take it anyways. All right. All right. You should take it. You'll do better at badminton. And brain. It might also help your brain. Not medical advice. What are you saying? Not medical advice. Yeah.

1:38:03Linus Sebastian:It's actually true.

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1:40:20Linus Sebastian:Sure.

1:40:24Linus Sebastian:Let's see here. Pick the wrap, pick the wrap. Oh, yeah, sure. Yes. LTT Wrap. A month ago, we posted a video about TikTok hacks, and one of the hacks that we looked at was from user raptech269nice4, who made a rap about how to use Utilman to log into a locked Windows user account. Well, he's back. And this time he has one about our merch. Okay, I'm not going to play the whole thing

1:40:53Luke Lafreniere:just because I want you guys to watch the whole thing. Yep. So I'm only going to play a little bit of it. Have you seen this? No, I haven't. Oh. But I'm giving him a view right now anyways. Oh my god. Okay, here we go. You ready? Yes. You know what? I love this style. Guilty of too much charisma. Hey, Linus said I got too much charisma on sight. So he sent me all the gear. Now we gonna do it right. Screwed driver first and season. Build another level. No stripping, no slipping. Every bit it hits the bezel. Hey, every side. But whatever you're running. Is that amazing or what? It's up on YouTube Shorts.

1:41:39Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, Noki's posting it in the chat. Like, how? Luke? Do you think even with his help, I could ever be cool?

1:41:53Linus Sebastian:What, Dan? Say it.

1:41:55Luke Lafreniere:Somebody posted something funny in chat.

1:41:57Linus Sebastian:Sure they did. He might have enough aura that while you were with him and with his help, you might be able to pull it off. Right, okay. But I feel like once he's removed from the scenario, you are yet again not cool, even if he received your help.

1:42:12Luke Lafreniere:So basically, I'm like...

1:42:13Linus Sebastian:Even if you received his help.

1:42:14Luke Lafreniere:With training, I could be posse grade cool. I think so. Okay. I think so. Well, that's fine. I'm just glad that he likes the product. And I am... My life is richer for having watched this video earlier today. you guys got you guys got to hear the rest of it it it doesn't go downhill from there that's that's what i'll say uh go go check it out uh rap tech 269 4 speaking of hopefully not going

1:42:49Linus Sebastian:downhill apple names new chief executive to replace tim cook apple has announced that tim cook will step down as ceo on september 1st 2026 and john turnus the company's senior vice president of hardware engineering since 2021 will be taking over. Cook will move to executive chairman. The transition was unanimously approved by the board and follows what Apple describes as a long-term succession plan. Ternus has been at Apple since 2001, working under both Steve Jobs and Cook. He's been the guy behind the hardware side of iPad, AirPods, and recent iPhones and has taken on an increasingly visible role at Apple events in recent years.

1:43:34Linus Sebastian:At 50, he's roughly the same age Cook was when he took over in 2021 and roughly one-tenth of the age of an average world leader. Under Cook's 15-year run, Apple went from a$350 billion company to a$4 trillion one, launched Apple Watch, AirPods, Apple Silicon, Vision Pro, and built out the services business. The biggest challenge waiting for Ternus is widely seen as fixing Apple's struggling AI strategy, which is lag behind competitors. Interesting. I don't agree with that at all. Yeah. I think they're actually probably doing like the smartest move in the room, but we'll see how it goes. I know a bunch of people have been saying like, oh, but if it like if someone figures it out, they're going to be so far behind.

1:44:23Linus Sebastian:And it's like, I don't even think so. With the rate at which models are being open sourced. And honestly, the rate Apple's hardware is for running that too. And the rate at which people seem to be very happy to just jump companies constantly. Like the relationship with AI companies and their employees is very, very tenuous. They're just kind of bouncing around all over the place. If Apple wants to turn it on, I think they absolutely can right now. and I don't think they will right now and I don't think they should right now. I think they are wisely waiting out this insane storm of spending, keeping their insane amounts of cash that they have instead of just blowing it all and then when the timing is right, maybe they'll step in or maybe they'll have a different solution.

1:45:12Linus Sebastian:Who knows? Maybe they'll get paid money to use someone else's model as like an advertising thing or something.

1:45:18Luke Lafreniere:Kind of like when they lost the search engine war. or whatever. Yeah.

1:45:24Linus Sebastian:Like maybe they'll find some way to make it work out in their favor anyways.

1:45:27Luke Lafreniere:That does tend to be the Apple way. Yeah. Don't be first. Just be Apple.

1:45:33Linus Sebastian:Yeah. So it doesn't feel like an error to me. It also like it would feel like an error if Google wasn't doing it. Yeah. But it does not feel like an error that Apple isn't doing it.

1:45:44Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. I f*** with that. Yeah. We actually, this was one of those ones where you know how we've talked about needing to be more agile as a company in our video production. This is one that I sent this. Okay, hold on. We're going to have to back up a little bit. Over on Floatplane, I was reading through the comments on one of the exclusives that we did. So there's a video where we have this kind of series, I guess, now, because I've done it a couple times, where I interview other executives or other leaders here at the company and sort of have a business meeting on camera, just like Luke and I do on WAN Show every week for you guys, but with different people.

1:46:30Luke Lafreniere:And it was actually a commenter who was talking about how... Oh, I like this comment. I know what one you're talking about, actually. You know, James and I talked about being kind of a big ship these days and that being a real challenge for us because we've lost some of the agility that we had in the past. And Biohazard4524 says, to keep James's analogy of them being a big ship that turns slowly, what I think they would love is to be more like an aircraft carrier. Yes, the massive ship turns slowly, but you can launch fast craft and helicopters to go try that new thing to be a platform to make quick things doable without going under.

1:47:10Luke Lafreniere:And I actually immediately screenshotted this and posted this in the executive chat and basically went, this is what we need to do. We can't stop being a bigger ship than YouTube channels that are literally one person or two people or even five people. We were more agile when we were a dozen people. And that's just inherent. There's more - Yeah, that makes sense. There's more people who need to know. There's more people who need to approve things.

1:47:41Linus Sebastian:I have had some conversations recently where we'll talk about like, okay we could do x y or z thing and the response will be like yeah but then we're gonna have to do this and that and this and that and this and that and i've been trying out a response of just like what if we just didn't and it's it's kind of fun watching people's brain explode and so um so

1:48:04Luke Lafreniere:basically i was like okay but we have to find a way to be more agile to get things done quickly and circumvent the process when it's necessary. And this Tim Cook retirement announcement is actually something that we went aircraft carrier mode on. So we kept the ship going in the direction that it's going and a small team of one of the relatively new writers on the team, his name's Sean, and he put together like sort of some key milestones from Cook's career and like kind of a draft of what a script might look like. And then I sat on the plane on the way back from the event earlier this week and I banged out a script.

1:48:50Luke Lafreniere:We shot it the morning I got back in. It was edited today. I'm gonna review it tonight and it goes up, I think this weekend. And so we need to start doing a better job of that. And the only way to start doing a better job of it is to start doing a better job of it. Just fucking do it. And so we're putting it in action already. And this was just such a great example. I don't remember how we got on this topic even, but this was such a great example of the importance of community feedback in what we're doing and how dialed in. And it's not just me who's reading this stuff and who's engaging with you guys.

1:49:30Luke Lafreniere:It's lots of people here at the company who just care and just wanna make a better product, whether that product is a shirt or whether that product is a video or whether it's a streaming platform or whether it's, hey, why don't we transition into another topic here and let's have a look at some of the sick content that's been posted on ltdlabs.com. Ah, yes. Check this out. Dude, Nick and Steven working on some pretty sick freaking content. This is such an interesting question that when Intel announced this, I was like, oh yeah, I wonder how much this helps. I wish someone would like look into that.

1:50:09Luke Lafreniere:And then little did I know.

1:50:11Linus Sebastian:And you didn't ask us.

1:50:12Luke Lafreniere:Little did I know somebody was doing it and that somebody was apparently me. Thank you, labs team. So the long and short of it is that Intel has some tools that can help their, especially their new Core Ultra 200 series processors perform apparently quite a bit better. And so there's actually a few different optimizations. Intel Extreme Tuning Utility, RXTU, Intel Application Optimizer, and then the new Intel Binary Optimization Tool, or iBot. And pretty much you go in here, you tweak all your stuff, they show you how to enable it, and then boom here is the improvement in performance that you can get with a 200s series processor so these are the the newer ones um with boost off and with boost on uh what exact chip did we use in the test bench uh test bench where is it yeah i can't remember off the top of my head either uh it changes the pl1 profiles what chip is it okay well this is something we might have overlooked a little bit oh no no here it is here it is so with the 285k oh no sorry this is uh not the new plus one so this is the older um 285k which gets a pretty substantial boost actually across a pretty wide variety of games anywhere from like two and a half percent to over four percent and that's in one percent lows so that's pretty cool and then with the new plus the new 270k plus we actually got way less yeah that is pretty fascinating so yeah guys go check out that article and and that's just one of the uh of the cool things that went up this week uh all right did this did the cmf 2026 one go up not this week is oh they must have just i must have just come across it no no that was that one was two weeks ago oh i thought you're talking about the uh the phone brightness one no no no that one we talked about last week but this one this one uh slipped my notice so this is talking about like color on apple's new displays really really really cool article as well i didn't see it until this week so i'm i'm getting to the point man where i just like i'm like chilling and waiting for ltd labs to release a new article i'm like oh that's

1:52:33Linus Sebastian:interesting that you've been i find them on redding them without no one will ever go to the damn website by itself that's no they will they will be optimistic luke hey hey you gotta have we still I have to point this out you have to understand we still have people asking us like when are you guys gonna have an RSS feed it's right here it's right here it's also it's also right here it's also hold on just in case just in case hold on I gotta go to the bottom it's also right here if you click on here it's everywhere it's i we can't we can't put it in more plate we get people go out of their way to email us asking when we're gonna have these things and they're

1:53:29Luke Lafreniere:please use them yeah yeah use them it's good it's good stuff come on heck yeah way to go ltd labs love to see it all right what else we got oh this is cool uh i i actually man i'm on the fence now because i knew you'd be excited about that whole bringing bringing uh cutting edge models on prem uh with like the gemini hardware appliance um but i can also see why you picked this one for one of your headlines youtube is opening up its ai powered likeness detection tool to all of hollywood actors musicians athletes and the talent agencies and management companies that represent them will be able to use this tool that works kind of like content id except for faces scanning the platform for ai generated deep fakes of enrolled individuals and then letting them review and request removal it is free opt-in and works even if the person doesn't have a youtube channel The tool has been in a phased rollout since actually late 2024, starting with CAA clients and then expanding to about 5 ,000 creators last fall, then to politicians and journalists in March.

1:54:40Luke Lafreniere:The entertainment industry is the biggest expansion yet, with CAA, UTA, WME, and untitled management already on board. YouTube says that enrollment data is only used for detection and is not used to train Google's AI models. Flagged videos are reviewed individually, and content that falls under parody, satire, or commentary may stay up. The expansion comes after the Sora launched last fall, flooded the internet with deepfakes of celebrities and dead public figures, making the need for this kind of tool kind of hard to argue against. It's cool that YouTube's doing it. That's sweet. And for free.

1:55:16Luke Lafreniere:That's awesome. YouTube is not perfect. I call them out in public and in private on a pretty regular basis. however however however let's look at all the other large video platforms i know i've said

1:55:35Linus Sebastian:it on wayne show before but this is what i keep going back to tiktok meta dude relatively speaking they're awesome they've been for a company to be on top as well for as long as not not only around but as big and on top for as long as they have been i am very surprised they don't seem way worse and way more corrupt than they are think about how think about how often

1:56:10Luke Lafreniere:big tech changes the deal pray i don't alter it any further yeah and with users with users i think there's a pretty strong argument to be made that they have changed the deal in pretty substantial ways. Some of those changes, in my opinion, come with the reality of just not being VC funded anymore and needing to run a profitable business model. I can't blame them for that. You got to eat. But in terms of the way that they've engaged with the creators on their platform, the ones who give it the value, the way that they have consistently stuck with that profit share model is nuts. Literally, even seeing how the model works, whether we're talking Vine, whether we're talking TikTok or Meta, no matter who it is, even seeing that obvious playbook that has worked so well.

1:57:07Luke Lafreniere:YouTube calls it, they call it a flywheel, right? The flywheel spins. creators create amazing content which benefits youtube which makes money which goes to creators who spend it on content who make better content that flywheel that youtube relies on to continue elevating the level of content on it and attracting creators to it it's in public it's plain for everyone to see and nobody else can just they can't do it they can't take out

1:57:37Linus Sebastian:their wallet and just share the revenue kind of funny because yeah but by by many accounts it's like actually cheaper and easier than doing something like netflix where you have to make the content yourself uh but just no one else will do it but i i i still maintain like youtube is really cool considering what it could be and there's some stuff that sucks i'm still salty about the dislike button and shorts have been very frustrating for me. Although I do have an interesting update. I heard on the OpenSauce Creator Discord, a few people got access to the app update and it does what we were hoping it would do.

1:58:18Linus Sebastian:When you set your shorts limit to zero minutes, it removes shorts entirely from your main page. But if you go to a creator, you can still find the shorts and that that is completely fine in my mind um i still don't like that if you do manually go find some shorts uh it's incredibly easy to bypass your zero minute limit um but the fact that it kind of removes it from there is cool and i got it the oh nice yeah yeah let's check it

1:58:49Luke Lafreniere:out uh okay so i have it now shorts feed limit zero minutes so i'm gonna yeah i'm gonna close the app yeah and then i'm gonna i'll log into uh i'll log into my account actually no i'll stay on the ltt account i guess i saw shorts okay so wait yeah i see shorts immediately no they're gone they're gone they're gone scroll down nope that's playlist play oh wait youtube playables oh for crying out loud can i get rid of these not interested okay Okay.

1:59:24Yeah, okay.

1:59:25Linus Sebastian:Yeah, no shorts. Holy bananas. Sweet. Top news.

1:59:33Luke Lafreniere:Holy bananas, dude. That's crazy. No shorts. Also, this is a quality recommendation. You're gonna get the...

1:59:51Luke Lafreniere:How is that? How is that in my recommendations right now? Fantastic. Um, yeah, that's a, that's a throwback. Was that the work account? Uh, someone's looking up the,

2:00:03Linus Sebastian:the Das Boot beer song.

2:00:05Luke Lafreniere:Amazing. Amazing. That 19.com. Uh,

2:00:11Linus Sebastian:19 still around.

2:00:12Luke Lafreniere:I have no idea. now i want to know yes all right let's let's see what's on that 19 oh okay it feels like the same stuff though this is literally like i think they made the video about

2:00:27Linus Sebastian:this five pound gummy bear over 10 years ago yeah honestly i saw the gummy bear and then i saw the micro magnets and i was like nothing has changed dude i mean look why would you hold on a

2:00:41Luke Lafreniere:second. Hold on. Get out of here. Listen, sir. I ain't a mathematician, but let me tell you this. Times

2:00:54Luke Lafreniere:$57.09. $57. Woo!

2:00:58Linus Sebastian:In gummy bears, dude. Let's go. $5.7 million of gummy bears. We're in the wrong business, sir. You should be making gummy bears. Make some creatine gummy bears. Do it that way. That is

2:01:10Luke Lafreniere:that is wild it's interesting that they they put like a like a purchase counter on it seems like every product it's not just it's not just key ones rubber chicken pen that seems like dancing okay well yeah that's that's definitely a site that still exists the supersized playground ball with unmatched durability no purchase count on this one it can handle a little oh this is new this is in their their new uh tab i see okay catching a ball with the world's largest glove all right man internet you have really you've really gotten to be a thing haven't you uh let's go talk about let's talk about who dims H-U-Dim.

2:02:07Luke Lafreniere:Have you seen this? Yep. I'm not quite sure if this qualifies as good news, but it's certainly fascinating news.

2:02:14Linus Sebastian:It might be good for, like, I don't know. No, I don't think it's... I think it could be. I think it's just dumb. Super cost-effective computers where you just need something. I guess. You need a RAM stick in the computer so it can turn on.

2:02:29Luke Lafreniere:Intel ASRock and Team Group have unveiled H-U-Dim. Half-unbuffered DIMM. A new DDR5 spec that uses one 32-bit sub-channel rather than the usual two. Fewer memory chips per stick means that it can be cheaper to produce, as long as you don't need the extra capacity anyway. With that said, early benchmarks confirm the trade-off is pretty brutal. You get a little over 50 % as much bandwidth across the board, which makes sense because if you had a single 32-bit sub-channel instead of two 32-bit sub-channels, then you would have half as many 32-bit sub-channels. Then, in order to get the performance that you might expect from DDR5, you would actually need two WhoDims in dual-channel, and that would be the same as, like, one conventional DDR5 stick.

2:03:22Luke Lafreniere:The whole thing exists because of the DDR5 shortage that has been driving prices through the roof. It's aimed at entry-level desktops and office machines that don't need peak memory performance. but hear me out ddr4 for those okay that doesn't help office machines and like oh man it just feels like a lot of manufactured waste um one interesting thing though is that you can apparently start with a hoodim today and then add a regular ddr5 stick for an asymmetric setup so we've seen asymmetric memory before i remember back um amd socket a so this will be this will be a deep cut did i use it right socket a yes had three sticks had three memory sticks and the way that it worked was even though it did support dual channel you had two arts three memory sticks three slots so you would install two sticks in dual channel and then you could install a third memory stick in the last slot that would operate in single channel mode and the idea behind it was that you'd use the dual channel memory that was running in dual channel faster speed until you had too much in memory and then it would overflow into the single channel one that was slower um nvidia also famously pulled this a similar move on the um gtx 970 which had three and a half gigs of ram at full speed and then it had the other half a gig of ram at a lower speed due to the way that the memory bus was configured um it wasn't that big of a deal in either of those cases it worked pretty good but i don't think this will be a huge deal either i still think who dims are maybe just

2:05:02Linus Sebastian:like not maybe amazing um i don't think they're cool maybe it'll help again office computer situations but yeah neat hopefully they're relatively cheaper enough that it'll be helpful

2:05:21Luke Lafreniere:the thing i actually found most interesting about it was how uh they apparently tested it so um let's see let me see if i can find a picture uh tom's hardware doesn't have a picture of it so let me have a look maybe uh tech power up also has an article do they have a picture show me the picture i don't know i saw a picture of how they tested it somewhere and basically they just took a regular not who dim and put some capton tape or some like packing tape over the contacts for like the other 32-bit sub channel i was like oh yeah okay i guess that would work as long as it makes sense as long as you have bio support for just activating the one side i was like oh okay i would have never thought of it what if i just taped over half of the half of the fingers on my memory stick before i put it in yeah no i wouldn't i i would not i would not think of that it wouldn't occur to me um no we'll do that after the eu is starting february 2027 going to require batteries and portable devices to be and this is a quote readily removable and replaceable huzzah and this is key that has to be by end users using commercially available tools no proprietary screws no heat guns no solvents replaceable batteries must also stay available for at least five years after a product leaves the market.

2:06:50Luke Lafreniere:This is super interesting. This is super cool. But there is a notable exception. Devices that managed to hit IP67 waterproofing and that can maintain 80 % of their battery capacity after a thousand full charge cycles are exempt. Apple already meets this threshold on every iPhone since the 15 and most flagship Android phones likely do as well. Meaning that the phones that many enthusiasts actually care about may not be impacted by this, and many of the phones that people may not find to be worthwhile to bother repairing because of the costs involved in, you know, upgrading or repairing a device may be the only ones that are actually impacted.

2:07:34Luke Lafreniere:Some outlets, though, are reporting that this could still push manufacturers toward easier battery access across the board since budget and mid-range devices that don't hit the exemption thresholds would need to comply, but the regulation may end up changing very little about how flagship phones are built our discussion question is if every flagship phone qualifies for the exemption does this regulation actually change anything or did the eu just write a right to repair rule with a loophole big enough to drive a phone through it um given that not everybody buys flagship phones which seems to be kind of a carrier subsidy sort of market assumption that everybody just like has a flagship phone.

2:08:17Luke Lafreniere:It just might be a few years old or it might be a current one. No, I think this could actually make a substantial difference because those more value-oriented mid-range phones where either they didn't pay for the IP certification or they are not built for it could end up being built in a way that makes the batteries easier to replace, which is never a bad thing. I do worry a little bit that, again, the devices most impacted by this might be the ones that also aren't getting software updates after that time. Yeah. And therefore might have security concerns around using them. But I consider this still progress.

2:08:57Linus Sebastian:I was going to say steps.

2:08:59Luke Lafreniere:And phones are just a small part of the portable electronics picture. Like, I got, man, I got super offended by my stupid old toothbrush. that had a battery that was clearly intentionally designed to be impossible to replace not impossible but very difficult i was just like this is offensive because the only reason that this doesn't work anymore is because you made sure it wouldn't it sucked and i resolved never to buy a toothbrush from that company again i don't remember who they are but i still have it how do they do that um basically just like the way that when when it was closed up the way that it closes kind of like break it latches and things like conceal the access cover and and i can understand a little bit of that it might have been done like kind of maybe for water resistance like it used a like a magnetic charger so it was like quite sealed up but i i think that it seemed intentional and when i looked up a guide it seemed even more intentional i did not like that yeah yeah very upset yeah i think it was oral b fire panda sasquatch says uh yeah i'm pretty sure it was oral b so i will never buy an oral b toothbrush again unless they fix their fix their biz um so yeah i could see this making a much bigger difference in spaces like other personal electronic devices maybe not as

2:10:18Linus Sebastian:much in in phones speaking about fixing their biz i don't know if this is positive maybe it is uh nintendo is getting tariff refunds apparently uh but their customers should probably get those considering they raised their prices. Two U.S. gamers have filed a class action lawsuit against Nintendo, arguing that the company is about to double dip on tariff costs. When Trump's tariffs hit last year, Nintendo raised prices on Switch consoles, Switch 2 accessories, and controllers by$5 to$50 across the board, explicitly citing tariffs as the reason. CEO Shantaro Furukawa told investors in May 2025 that tariffs would be incorporated into the price.

2:11:01Linus Sebastian:After the Supreme Court ruled the tariffs unconstitutional in February, Nintendo sued the U.S. government to get its tariff payments back, and the government is now processing roughly$166 billion in refunds to over 330 ,000 importers. The plaintiffs argue that since Nintendo already passed the tariff costs on to customers through price hikes, getting a government refund on top of that means Nintendo collects the same money twice. Nintendo isn't the only company facing this. FedEx, UPS, Costco, and eyeglass importer Esler Luxottica have all been hit with similar lawsuits. FedEx actually promised to pass refunds back to customers and got sued anyways.

2:11:50Linus Sebastian:Oh, America. Hilarious. when asked back in march whether it planned to share refunds with customers nintendo said the nintendo would only say we have nothing else to share on this topic which is akin to saying nothing uh discussion question nintendo passed the tariff cost to customers and is now collecting a refund from the government should companies that raise prices be required to pass refunds back all right

2:12:13Luke Lafreniere:alan asks linus if you get a tariff refund for ltdstore.com sales would you return them to customers so did you raise prices for tariff stuff for us it was not black and white we did not simply increase our prices and then adjust our new retail price according to our new cost or walk to mordor or walk to mordor one does not one does not simply um and what i suspect is that for a lot of other companies, it probably wasn't that black and white either. So let me explain, you know, what we did when a certain someone had a little bitch fit about whatever and decided to go to trade war with the whole world for some reason.

2:13:07Luke Lafreniere:Basically, we went to our suppliers and we said, hey, you know, it could significantly impact our volumes through you if you are not able to do anything to help us help our customers weather this storm. So some of it was absorbed by the manufacturer and supplier partners that we engage with both onshore and overseas. All right. Some of it was absorbed by our customers. We did raise prices on some items. However, some of it was also absorbed by us in multiple forms. So for some things, for example, you might have noticed that T-shirts are substantially more expensive on LTT Store US compared to LTT Store Global.

2:14:00Luke Lafreniere:That is not because we are making more money on the US store. back when this whole thing first happened uh i made the call for us to in spite of the extremely high tariffs on those t-shirts basically eat the margin on them yeah because i think that's the last i heard of it we as far as i know unless anything has changed um our pricing for t-shirts on LTTstore.com is higher, but it is only higher reflective of our increased costs. If I recall correctly, we are either not making money or barely making money on t-shirts on the US site ever since this whole thing went down. Also, there were other costs that were incurred by us that were not directly related to...

2:14:51Luke Lafreniere:That's one I was going to bring up. ...product cost. we spent an inordinate no i'm not going to say spent we wasted a f***ing inordinate amount of time and money dealing with s*** that was completely unnecessary none of this had to be done we literally had to roll out a u.s warehouse in order to soften the blow of these price increases these import taxes and store for our american customers we had to develop a split store that has a now a global store and a u.s store also created more friction which reduced sales

2:15:30Linus Sebastian:um it also uh like increasing your price because of tariffs will reduce your sales as well there

2:15:38Luke Lafreniere:was an impact on our sales volumes so we took an impact to our profits we took an impact to our sales volumes we took an impact to our overhead none of which is directly um actually one only one of which is easily sort of directly measurable the rest of them it's hard to say exactly how much of it was born by us versus born by someone else that being said i'd love to see consumer relief as well um yeah and and i think we did we talk about this on wanshow or just

2:16:10Linus Sebastian:saying is that it's very multifaceted in how this impacted yeah sellers but i don't know if we did

2:16:16Luke Lafreniere:did we talk about this on wan show or off wan show because i think i did talk to you about how how it yeah it does seem kind of f***ed up that at the end of the day you know just businesses are getting helped it always rolls down a hill right and so the end user the end user i mean i talked about this and it's it's so weird because the math is just math right the math math is math and so at the end of the day if there's an increase in price somewhere in the supply chain at some point the customer will pay for it because that's the only way that someone has to pay for it it's always going to be the customer um and it's it sucks that ultimately the customer you know bore a lot of these costs, but...

2:17:04Luke Lafreniere:And then, right, and then it's not the customer who is... I mean, I don't even see how you would administer a program. I've been trying to think about that. Where every customer would go back and... And what would they claim against?

2:17:15Linus Sebastian:I don't think you could do it accurately. I think you'd have to do it for like... I think you'd have to ignore... I think my way would be below a certain income threshold. old you just get like a certain amount of tax break or something

2:17:33Luke Lafreniere:have to do it below a certain income yeah i mean it's based on like direct consumption so how would

2:17:38Linus Sebastian:you do that fairly impossible to measure yeah because i think it would just have to be the same amount for everybody yeah it's it's it's definitely very technically impossible to measure but like, oh my God. Yeah.

2:17:52Luke Lafreniere:So in summary, I haven't seen how much we're owed yet. Actually, I think that, I think that Tony said that sometime either last week or early this week, he'd have a,

2:18:04Linus Sebastian:there you go.

2:18:04Luke Lafreniere:He'd have a rough idea. I'm actually, I'm gonna, I'm gonna ping him now. Any idea on what we are owed for tariff stuff? Yeah. Let me see if I can, i'll see if i can find that out but um what i suspect is that it's nowhere near what we spent

2:18:25Linus Sebastian:reworking like our company there's no way because it's deal with this crap it's yeah it's it's not measuring the um the intangible stuff all the insane meetings the the massive amount of

2:18:37Luke Lafreniere:opportunity cost like the time that people like me and taryn and other senior leaders at the company spent talking about this instead of how do we make more videos or make more products or serve our serve our audience and serve our customers in ways that are positive and constructive instead of just undoing completely unnecessary negative impacts is it would be pretty tough for us to measure after the fact to be honest with you and so yeah the bottom line is I really don't, um, man.

2:19:13Linus Sebastian:Hamnetics said the tariff income balances out to about 450 US per resident. 450?

2:19:19Luke Lafreniere:Was it that much? That's wild. That's, that's insane. I mean, yeah, I mean, it makes sense because it was on so many imports. Yeah. Um, man, what a, you know, this is gonna, this is gonna come across like crazy. but a small part of me actually wishes that at least you know they had stayed in effect then at least then the whole thing would have been for something oh because now it's for nothing basically a whole bunch of global companies had their time wasted a whole bunch of consumers had their money wasted and there's no extra money to put theoretically into public services it's just the whole thing is just and and now there's the additional overhead of having to administer this program and refunds ultimately what ends up happening is nothing the u.s government

2:20:21Linus Sebastian:made life super hell for a lot of companies and is now going to have to pay them a ton of money i think there's interest from consumers i think there's interest and consumers are going to get hyper hosed because they're not going to get jack like so you's government just shoveled money towards companies which is effectively just shoveling money towards rich people yeah but

2:20:44Luke Lafreniere:shoveled money towards companies after after costing them a bunch of money yeah so not even like not even just giving a handout to the rich you're like hey do a bunch of unnecessary work

2:20:54Linus Sebastian:and have a bunch of unnecessary expense yeah and then we'll pay you back with interest later Thanks. You're still going to be at a loss on this, but thanks. I'm at a loss.

2:21:05Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. Hey, but we've got some good news because it's good news, Wancho! Apple has fixed a flaw that allowed the FBI to access historical push notifications. Yeah, that news sucked.

2:21:15Linus Sebastian:I didn't like that. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm happy we're back to good news. Which one? I don't know.

2:21:21Luke Lafreniere:Oh, the Nintendo getting tariff refunds? I mean, it's good news for Nintendo. Yeah. Yeah, technically. In Apple's update notes for 26.4.2, it includes a logging issue was addressed with improved data redaction to resolve an issue where notifications marked for deletion could be unexpectedly retained on the device. Before the fix, cleared or deleted notifications were sometimes stored in a notification database which had been recoverable using forensic extraction tools. I believe it was Signal who flagged this. And our discussion question is, good job, Apple, because apparently they got it taken care of relatively quickly.

2:22:04Luke Lafreniere:So I think that's pretty cool. That's Apple putting their money where their mouth is, putting their development efforts towards something that really benefits the privacy of their users. And I'm always going to support that. oh i might have accidentally uh minimized a couple of just like uh impromptu topics i still have one of them here uh this is this is pretty good news yeah if there if there's another one uh hex os has gone v1.0 oh nice yeah remember the whole controversy when they first announced around uh local dashboard access yeah it is now live which is good which is good and should have always been a thing but hey look uh john their ceo is is one of the nicest most humble people that i've ever met you know when the community told him hey you're wrong about this even though there are you know you've got all your technical reasons why it made sense to do it the way you did it this is really important to us you're wrong he said okay by the time we go 1.0 we'll have it he made the commitment it's done great and you gotta you don't have to you know you don't have to like the thought process you don't have to like how long something takes but you gotta you gotta respect the follow-through so uh hex os for those of you who are not familiar is the nas software that i invested in a while ago and um man i was at creator summit and um

2:23:35Luke Lafreniere:three creators spontaneously came up to me asking me about like what would be the ideal thing for keeping their data safe like three two one um one of them even described the concept of buddy backup to me and asked if if there was something on the market that existed like that and i was like it's coming buddy backups not implemented yet the local dashboard is there but buddy backup is still coming soon. And the idea behind it is that Luke could, I could give Luke a couple hard drives for him to put in his NAS. He gives me a couple hard drives for me to put in my NAS. And then we're just buddies and we just use a secure tunnel to store encrypted versions of essential data on each other's NASes.

2:24:15Luke Lafreniere:We don't pay any subscription fee to any cloud provider. It's just buddies backing up buddies. And I'm like, I'm so excited.

2:24:24Linus Sebastian:Just things Windows definitely could have solved.

2:24:27Luke Lafreniere:I know. okay why are you bringing things negative now you're sad about windows i get it you know what

2:24:35Linus Sebastian:sorry you know my bad you know what i get it the last time just threw me off man no no no no we're

2:24:41Luke Lafreniere:not gonna let the vibe be wrecked hey that was the other one i remember what the other thing i wanted to talk about was okay we're gonna get into after dark real quick here oh wait no we're gonna get our sponsors done first but then i have something really important i want to talk to you guys about um the show is brought to you today by shocks not many people know this but about 3 % of people experience something called musical anhedonia, which is a science-y way of saying that they don't like music. Really? I did not know that. For the other 97 % of people, though, music is meant to be enjoyed in so many places.

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2:27:28Linus Sebastian:little bit i think particularly important negative topics can be included but in general i think we aim for general positivity i um i think with the state of the world right now i think to a certain degree it is our duty to he said duty to and i think this is true for like a lot of uh creators to try to you know do the song and dance be a place that doesn't have to be as dark as where a lot of other places are right now. Sorry, what did you say? I'm like super tired. I woke up at three in the morning. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, that was not coherent. But I understand what you're saying. Was it actually not?

2:28:14Linus Sebastian:It seemed fine to me. Be a place that is not as dark as everywhere else.

2:28:18Luke Lafreniere:You said something about other creators, are they?

2:28:20Linus Sebastian:No, I'm saying it's the job of us collectively.

2:28:23Luke Lafreniere:Oh, okay, now I understand.

2:28:24Linus Sebastian:Not necessarily genuinely everyone, but like...

2:28:27Luke Lafreniere:Okay, cool. That makes more sense. Okay, according to Tim, it was perfectly coherent. It must be me.

2:28:32Linus Sebastian:I'm sorry I've been traveling I also did yeah I've I'm genuinely wicked tired so like okay it makes sense to me if it was not super coherent Luke said let's get pizza yeah nice um

2:28:44Luke Lafreniere:yeah I I'm just I'm just I'm just after the first couple I started to see the the rumblings go away and the rumblings started to go the other way and I felt the same way dude like we would finish

2:28:58Linus Sebastian:Wancho and I'd like feel all right and a lot of the Wanchos of the last like while before we were

2:29:04Luke Lafreniere:doing this yeah I'd finish Wancho I'd just be kind of down yeah like not I was more than down sometimes I was like done yeah you know yeah like I even I even have a character for like when I can't anymore you know and that's like that's not a state you want to reach every Friday hasn't been

2:29:22Linus Sebastian:kicked off in a while and I think a big part too is like I think this is universally true for all of us we're all getting the negative news yeah i don't think they also need it here yeah like i and again if it is particularly important yeah or a particularly big deal for whatever reason yeah sure we can include it but if it's like uh okay you have to pick one lena khan passed away

2:29:47Luke Lafreniere:we would have to cover that that would be bad that would be bad news that would be cataclysmic

2:29:51Linus Sebastian:bad news yeah uh but if you're trying to compare like which one of these two topics should we include and they're pretty similar in importance level but one of them is good news and one of them is bad news ditch the bad news one yeah how about this how about how about if it's an important

2:30:09Luke Lafreniere:security thing or something we can still flag it i'm gonna say 90 ratio yeah i think that's reasonable to be honest so you can pick so we'll tell the like the news team which and actually i'm usually the one who goes through and picks the topics for the show but whatever so but basically when you bring the menu, if you're bringing 20 topics, only two to three of them should be negative topics.

2:30:35Linus Sebastian:So pick the ones that are important. Stay the path said exactly. Algorithms make sure you get the bad news. And I think that's kind of an interesting way of approaching it is we should try to be the opposite. Yeah.

2:30:45Luke Lafreniere:And I'm so here for it. It should be a positivity

2:30:48Linus Sebastian:skewed algorithm of news.

2:30:50Luke Lafreniere:We've been live for almost three hours now. And if I compare how I feel right now, like how just tired and drained I feel right now, because it's a little bit, like we've been on for three hours, right? It's a long time. Like I don't actually envy like game streamers who are live for like 10 hours a day. Like some of them like 12 hours a day. Those guys are crazy. It can be draining.

2:31:18Linus Sebastian:Other than being awake for so long at this point, I don't feel the like social exhaustion I often feel from WAN show because it is such a like, ugh. Yeah, I don't feel like that. That topic was heavy and gross. Time to go into the next heavy and gross topic. Yeah. Ready to feel down again. Yeah, exactly.

2:31:39Luke Lafreniere:And look, it's not like we don't know these things. We literally have to review them in order to get the topics together for the show. And it's not like, it's not like I didn't notice Google that your news feed scrolls infinitely now and never says you're done. Okay, well, unless you're having like an issue with, you know, loading on your data or whatever, right? Like I'm getting it all and I know you guys are getting it all. I want to move forward with Good News WAN Show. Maybe that's just it. Maybe the WAN Show channel is an oasis of positivity and optimism about technology amidst just a sea of diarrhea about technology, you know?

2:32:22Yeah.

2:32:23Luke Lafreniere:Let's do it. Yeah. And now let's do some checkout messages.

2:32:27Linus Sebastian:Dan, I assume you have some. I don't know if I addressed this on the show or not, but there was one of the first Good News WAN shows. Someone pointed out that we got off topic for a second. We got really negative about something. I don't even remember what it was. And we got kind of called out for it on Reddit. And I agree with them. Because whatever it was we were talking about, I don't remember what it was, but it just wasn't very important. it didn't matter and we still talked about it on the Good News WAN show and I was like you know that was unnecessary yeah cool if it's necessary let's talk about it if it's not let's keep it positive I think that's cool yeah let's do it yeah

2:33:19Luke Lafreniere:okay yeah we've got quite a few today Luke, every site wants me to make a passkey these days. How is it possible that passkey is more secure than a strong password? I have 2FA and still get asked to make a passkey for those sites.

2:33:35Linus Sebastian:I wish I could answer this for you better. I honestly haven't done enough research on passkeys because they're so infrequently available.

2:33:43Luke Lafreniere:I feel like the passkey utopia that we were promised did not happen. and I'm... Well, I can't say it failed. Well, it didn't happen. I didn't say it failed. I said it hasn't happened. Yeah. And this hybrid of like sometimes using a passkey and sometimes a password and sometimes a 2FA token or a notification on my phone is actually just worse than any one of those things. It is starting to get like almost like a triggering thing when I need to log into something. Like I tried to, I had to get into the labs building today and I'd been logged out at Unify and I was just like... Dude, you gotta get a fob.

2:34:28Luke Lafreniere:It's a way to go. Well, see, I carry the actual like master key to the building. So it was only because I was going in the side door that it mattered.

2:34:36Linus Sebastian:So it's like, yeah, whatever. Stife 2002 said, passkey is basically asymmetric encryption. It's something you have, takes the knowledge and fishability completely out of the equation. this is where this is why i haven't even bothered to look into it because no it doesn't in my opinion

2:34:54Luke Lafreniere:and then why do i even need it because my phone is already a thing i have which i already just biometrically authenticated for so your pass key is already redundant like i just the reason why i'm saying no it doesn't is because most services that i know of that have pass keys

2:35:13Linus Sebastian:also allow you to just have like oh we'll we'll just text your phone bruh yeah you want another option for signing yeah we can just text your phone dude do you remember that time remember

2:35:23Luke Lafreniere:that time i showed you how many authentication methods i had on one of my accounts for google or something yeah it was like terrifying because they half of them didn't even like work anymore but they were they had just all been set up at some point yeah and then and then steve said

2:35:38Linus Sebastian:that's the implementation it's horribly implemented implemented like horribly worst ever blah blah and yeah i know i totally agree i wasn't saying technically what you said was wrong what i'm saying is that right now as they are they're kind of irrelevant in my experience uh i have autofill already so they don't really make it so that i log in any faster they it's also not doing biometric stuff like you're talking about so it doesn't really skip a step on mobile either so it just like i don't know and then you can just bypass it by using a different method and you can say like oh well you know i won't do that but for us personal security is like a little bit less important than org security um and any user can just be like well I'm going to include being able to text my phone.

2:36:30Linus Sebastian:So, yeah. Paskies can require biometric authentication. It's the site's choice. This is like almost my whole point that they don't. They're not doing that. They are also allowing you to, in many actually like high important account situations, bypass it entirely by texting your phone, which is like the worst possible thing. The problem is the tech can be as cool as the tech wants. If it's not used fully and uniquely, then it just doesn't matter. Because it can be as secure as you want if you're still receiving text messages. It's all out the window.

2:37:23There we go.

2:37:27Luke Lafreniere:hey la did la can you talk about an event where the outcome still boggles you sure actually i was thinking about this just earlier this week because of the whole supposed um blacklisting of certain youtube media by amd um like i i basically i was i was kind of asked to give an example of a time when a brand you know had a seeding strategy that didn't really make any sense to me and there's one kind of favorite story that i have and it was a it was a large multinational display manufacturer who had like the hottest display on the market like this like it was so cool it's like this like giant curved like freaking amazing nobody else would have had the stones to make something like this and we reached out to them trying to get uh trying to get a sample trying to get a review unit early because we were like very excited about it and wanted to make a video and pretty much just like wanted to game on it and talk about how freaking huge and immersive and cool it was and they turned us down and we were pretty bummed right because obviously we like to make videos about cool tech that people want to see and that that gets us views it gets you know you guys informed on this cool new product and it gets eyeballs on the product for the brand it's you know stacking w's i love stacking w's and this seemed like an obvious w stacker and they were like nah and i was like okay well that's a bummer fast forward i kid you not i think it was one week later it might have been two weeks later it was like almost immediately in our business leads inbox an offer from that same company to do the exact video that we pitched editorially, this time from an agency.

2:39:25Luke Lafreniere:So this is like classic. Right hand has no idea what the left hand is doing. An offer to do that same video on that same monitor for, I kid you not, it was like tens of thousands of dollars for a video that I wanted to do for free and was told, nah. That is an event where the outcome still boggles me. Hi, can I do something for you for free? No, but what you can do is do it for tens of thousands of dollars. You just gotta wait a little while, I guess. Bizarre. I will never understand it. Gilmore says, did you take the money? Yeah.

2:40:10Luke Lafreniere:of course i would i wanted to do the video anyway i just i i did at the time i don't even did you tell them when you got there uh that would have been funny no no they shipped it here oh there was no one there was no one to tell it was just like i don't know how big this screen was yeah dude no i was dude it was hilarious it's it's just so funny i was like this is the stupidest thing i've ever seen and and what's crazy is is it is it's not even um like we've seen

2:40:41brands are just made up of people and people sometimes got up really early that day you know yeah uh do you have something where the outcome still boggles you

2:41:07Linus Sebastian:not really that I want to go into details of some of the contracts for services and stuff

2:41:15Luke Lafreniere:he is like the best negotiator ever by the way if you want like a contract negotiating like just a bulldog you know contact Luke Lafreniere Inc

2:41:30Luke Lafreniere:i don't know and your strategy is so simple you just say no is that right for the most part no

2:41:35Linus Sebastian:that doesn't work for me there was also one where they had two different associates trying to do sales with me at the same time snag that commission and i ended up uh doing basically the like walk across the street to the other car dealership thing nice but to the same company with their different associates so the one would say like oh well i can give you this deal and i'd go to the other guy and be like well i'm getting like this other deal from this other sales associate and then both like work each other down which was just incredible uh there's been some pretty wild stuff but um oh man i just had one in mind crap I'll try to keep thinking about it if it comes to me maybe I'll chime up

2:42:23Luke Lafreniere:more then? alright yeah hit me down hey LD I recently went from working in my given field to working for a pretty big media company in my industry and I'm suddenly on camera making technical videos any tips for a newbie? I actually have lots of tips for you here you need to get a subscription to float plane you need to dig into the float plane exclusives and um i mean oh where is it what's it called definitely not that sometimes you have to use quotes the search is nothing to find it here extras linus teaches his son how to be a host um this one's pretty good and then there's also a behind the scenes of me coaching a couple of our guests from intel here it is linus host tips intel a770 gpu extras both of those two are a substantial amount of my experience as a host in video form training other hosts so uh head on over there hey luke as a user of catchy os have you had a chance to x cashy os have you had a chance to explore the recent GPU patches for low RAM cards or even the AMD GPU HDMI 2.0 VRR changes they include.

2:43:50Luke Lafreniere:Any thoughts?

2:43:51Linus Sebastian:No, I was spoiled and was given a 4080 Noctua, so I don't have a low RAM card situation. Where'd that come from? You.

2:44:04Luke Lafreniere:Oh. Yeah, right.

2:44:07Linus Sebastian:I forgot it was a Noctua edition. yeah it's hard to you can't really tell that's sick you're welcome yeah it's covered in moss uh right right but yeah it's not super applicable to me i was like damn a noctua edition that way

2:44:20Luke Lafreniere:that could we couldn't that wouldn't have been us we would have gone with like a like a duel or something you know like yeah i don't know edition come on i don't necessarily know why

2:44:28Linus Sebastian:you guys did that i'm not i'm not made a noctua fans here you know at least i'm pretty sure it's a noctua edition it might be i think i'll check i'll check could have just painted it brown uh yeah so i it's not super applicable to me i did do the like relatively big recent cashy update i haven't had a chance to really like play with it much other than just knowing that my system is totally fine um yeah yeah seems good i was i was excited to see those updates but i they're just not like super applicable to me right now which is great i love that this chapter is called luke's

2:45:07Luke Lafreniere:confidence lowers um oh hello okay what are we what are we looking at here motherboard oh gpu time here we go it's so it is yeah yep that's a knock to a fan if i've ever seen one and you can't see any of that anymore it's all moss all right that makes sense running my first marathon on sunday and the wang show has gotten me through all my long runs wow hoping for a four-hour show nice would you ever run a marathon and what is your biggest physical accomplishment

2:45:42Linus Sebastian:i think my knees would explode mine too um i think we're not made for that i i think not uh

2:45:49Luke Lafreniere:yeah marathon that's very cool though that's so cool and like like massive massive respect

2:45:56Linus Sebastian:if you could do the whole thing on soft surfaces somehow that'd be pretty sweet um carpet to your shoes how yeah not really how long was the foam run 2025 foam rust okay that was this like spray

2:46:14Luke Lafreniere:stuff yeah that was 5k i i did this with yvonne because my son wanted to do it and then she agreed to do it with him and then he caught sick and had to bail so we had two tickets so after me saying no i have zero interest in this um i ended up being the one who had to do it anyway so how long how long is a marathon how many kilometers marathon so i did that and it was a standard marathon is 42.195 kilometers so could i do the foam fest eight times the answer is no probably never i think it's very cool though greatest physical feat for me um is probably just like a cool like shot on the badminton court i have kind of a signature move where if my opponent plays a uh uh plays a forehand side like really tight net or drop shot uh i get i i just i i i love to dive and so i'll get like full body extension in the air and i will sometimes i've actually done it before catch it just below the court and managed to pop it back up and i've actually net rolled it a couple times back over and every time it's like like people go people go nuts uh so it would be like some some shot i made in badminton sometime in terms of i have not had a lot of physical accomplishments like more of a pale techie guy i i am these days i all of

2:47:46Linus Sebastian:Mine will be very old. I think one of my favorite ones to think back on is football, left defensive end. I got a sack but was able to punch the ball out. And the right defensive end recovered the fumble and scored a goal. So we got a defensive touchdown, which was sick. There's another time where there was a field goal being shot. And I jumped up and actually blocked it. but didn't realize that that doesn't stop the play so my dad was screaming at me but i was still i was still proud of my arm hurt but i still got it um conrad from float plane says i can bench press

2:48:29Luke Lafreniere:my wife sick nice sick nice white wife lifting is is based oh no xfin724 in float plane chat says i I was so bad at volleyball in high school gym class that when I finally hit one over the net, both teams clapped. Mortifying. That's pretty epic. Amazing.

2:48:55Linus Sebastian:My favorite memory is probably there's a video clip of me hitting some dude in hockey, and then my grandpa goes, Let's go, Luger! And you can hear him cheering on the clip, and it's fantastic.

2:49:08Luke Lafreniere:Syphilis says, I can bench press two of my wife's. How many do you have? Okay, carry on. All right, Dan, hit me.

2:49:15Linus Sebastian:You did pluralize wife's.

2:49:18Luke Lafreniere:What's up, boys? Are there any plans to make regular cargo shorts, not the zip-off pants? Thanks. Probably, but I don't have a timeline on that. Sorry. When.l colon colon, I noticed that you have been talking about your RC cars lately. If you were to make content for the dozens of us RC nerds out there, what would it be? reviews weird and crazy builds track days definitely not track days i suck uh if i was gonna do anything it would be just like casual hangout streams like put a camera up in the corner of like my my little workshop corner at home and while i you know fill shock fluid or whatever like an adam savage kind of thing um just hang out with me in my shop yeah Just like throw the chat up and just kind of chill.

2:50:09Luke Lafreniere:Howdy, Moo Moo, Slick, and Dandaman. Out of the recent AMD tech... Moo Moo. Oh, my old email address, Moo Moo the Cow. Oh, right. Yeah. Okay. The one you used professionally. That's a deep cut.

2:50:21Linus Sebastian:There you go.

2:50:22Luke Lafreniere:I'm using it right. He's learning the slang. Fairy poggers. How do you do, fellow kids? Out of the recent AMD tech upgrades, have there been any purchases that someone made that surprised you? Yes. something you didn't expect that they would be interested in all of the like unnecessarily expensive collectible stuff just boggles my mind and like i know that there is like a subset of the viewers that feel like i'm being like i'm putting on a performance or i'm being disingenuous when i like lose my mind over somebody spending like you know five hundred dollars on a lego minifigure or something like that i promise you that it is not genuine performative in the slightest if there was no camera pointed at me i would do the exact same thing i promise you that no matter how much money i had no matter how many jets i could buy i would never spend five hundred dollars on a Lego minifigure.

2:51:28Luke Lafreniere:Ever.

2:51:29Linus Sebastian:You've spent some money on some collectible Xbox controllers, at least one. This is true. At least two. This is true.

2:51:35Luke Lafreniere:So, okay. Okay, you know what? I have the one... No, the one expensive one that I have is that one that the developers got.

2:51:44Linus Sebastian:You also have a gold one. It's only kind of a technicality, but... That one's... The one I'm really talking about is the developer one.

2:51:52Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, the developer one. Um... I use it though, which I know is like crazy for something that's like a one of very few, but I like have spent hours gaming on it. That's sweet. So to me, and look, everyone draws their own line, right? Like slightly before their own behavior. That's human nature, baby. But to me, the fact that I game on it means that to me, it's a controller. it's not a shelf piece okay there are exceptions i purchased a copy of final fantasy 6 for super nintendo that i never intended to put into a slot but again for me that was more about restoring yeah a thing that i owned that i lost at a time in my life when i lost a lot of things moving between my families um i also purchased a copy of final fantasy tactics that i never intended to put into a playstation one but that one was more about i have played this game cover to cover three times and i have never purchased it not good so i own a copy of the original and i paid for ivly's chronicles i consider my sins washed clean at that point so like like i i mean i definitely i definitely buy stuff that's unnecessary sometimes okay like here here's a perfect example uh evan and caitlin evan and caitlin make this really cool knife uh or like they partnered with a local play where where where is it uh where do you find their where do you find Oh, here, here, here.

2:53:39Luke Lafreniere:ShopEvanAndKaitlyn.com. They have this really cool box cutter. This thing is so cool. It's also$120 Canadian dollars for a box cutter, which is like madness. But it's replaceable. You can put a new utility blade in it whenever you want. And it is like one of the most satisfying fidgets that I have ever encountered in my life. Oh, actually, I have it.

2:54:04Luke Lafreniere:But again, I use it. So I don't know. if you can if you can think of something that's like a dumb thing that like i don't even use then i'm open to it i guess i have my katana people always comment on that on my mantle that was impulsive i was young we've used it oh and we have used it actually that's true and i and i specifically wanted one that was an actual sword that was not purely decorative i think it's a two-thirds tang so like you could like you could do some stuff with it if you really wanted to and it's sharp yeah here it is this thing is this thing is like so cool

2:54:44Luke Lafreniere:it's just it's oh dude it's so satisfying hey oh speaking of cool knives i didn't pay for this one because he's a bro yeah you gotta give him the sound you have to give him the sound dude i got the hacksmith blade i ran into him at creator summit he's he's my canadian bro he brought one for me um so it's like uh it's a multi-function knife if you guys somehow manage to not see the kickstarter for this thing uh it has a built-in uh it has like little built-in uh screwdriver bit storage here so you slide these out and then they just uh go into the tip they're magnetic you can also put it in this way if there's like a tight space you're trying to reach into and you want to do that uh there's tweezers built into them um there's a level there you go there's a little uh there's a little uh ruler on it uh the clip is adjustable so you can put it on either side whichever kind of works better for you and man what else is oh yeah bottle opener it has whatever this like pokey spiky thing is i actually don't don't remember what that one does sorry i was break uh uh maybe i don't know so it probably does something i mean knowing knowing james it definitely does something but this okay hold on i'm just gonna just just check this out it has these like okay hold on just doesn't quite capture it yeah it doesn't quite capture it

2:56:12Linus Sebastian:It sounds way better in person.

2:56:18Linus Sebastian:Yeah.

2:56:19Luke Lafreniere:It's... Will?

2:56:30Luke Lafreniere:It is so flipping satisfying, man. And I don't think that I have ever encountered a folding knife that, check it out, like feel the, feel the, feel how little slop, how little play there is in the blade. i don't think i've ever encountered a folding knife that feels as much like a fixed knife i i mean i have but it's really good i think i might have loosened it a little already i just dude ever since he handed to me i've just been like i was i was on set today and i forgot like how sharp this thing is and i was just like playing and there was some uh there was some you that like closed cell like like really squishy like dense foam sure i just was like you know i'll like stab it into it i went probably about this deep on the blade through so like about probably this far right because it was at like a corner and it just passed right through it even though the blade is so uh whoops uh even though the blade is so oh my gosh what are you doing there even though it's so thick right it's so sharp out of the box that it just was like and i'm like oh because i was like flipping it to myself like earlier in the shoot and stuff

2:57:57Linus Sebastian:sound effect right then nice that was amazing solid so i'm pretty sure i heard dan do it too

2:58:04Luke Lafreniere:anyway um did he give you the torque flag just tighten up yes roman he did give me the torque flag it comes with a little thing to uh properly torque this screw to make sure that you get exactly the right feel on it so yeah super super impressed um way to go james now you just gotta manufacture them all in case you're wondering why i have one before all the customers have gotten one uh this one had some kind of issue with it that was cosmetic and didn't matter and it's like not worth it to disassemble it and fix it and reassemble it compared to just making another one. So he had a few of those at Creator Summit.

2:58:42Luke Lafreniere:So mine's not a perfect one. I finally realized why I didn't have the Kickstarter for it.

2:58:48Linus Sebastian:Did you miss it? Classically? No, I was going to buy it for myself, my brother, and my dad as like a Christmas gift. And then I logged into Kickstarter and got flashbacks of the coal bar and was like, I'll just wait until they're like ready to ship purchasable. Got it. And then I'll just get them then.

2:59:08Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, you might have ended up cursing him if you had bought one for your dad for Christmas. Yeah, maybe. We know what happened the last time you did that. It's probably better for everyone that I just did it.

2:59:15Linus Sebastian:Because I was trying to remember, like, I definitely wanted to get one. And, yeah, I'm fairly certain that's what happened. But, yeah, they're pretty wicked cool. Yeah.

2:59:29Luke Lafreniere:Got to use this Linus coin somehow. Thank you for fueling my tech skills from virus downloading noob to self-hosting noob. Nice. What was the first application that you self-hosted? How long ago was it? Oh.

2:59:47Linus Sebastian:Games or applications? Counter-Strike. I was going to say Mumble. Counter-Strike? Yeah, Counter-Strike.

2:59:55Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, Mumble's kind of goaded. I don't think... Would that count? I set up... Slightly later, I set up an FTP server that I could access from off-site just because it was more convenient than carrying around files. I'd say those are my two earliest ones. I hosted a lot of game stuff

3:00:16Linus Sebastian:before I did FTP server, but I did do that at some point.

3:00:22Luke Lafreniere:Hi, LLD. Question for Luke. Do you think that open source software can find a way to self-fund without relying on exclusive donations? Correction. I did a bunch of research, but I think, no, my friend actually ended up hosting the Mumble. so the an ftp server for myself was my first one i don't want to leave that out there if it's not

3:00:40Linus Sebastian:quite right sorry carry on question was do you think open source software can sell fund without a exclusively relying on donations yeah totally corporate sponsors and corporate service this was a question for me oh although that's exactly what i was saying so you're fine uh well you were

3:00:58Luke Lafreniere:the one who asked it so i just naturally answered it okay i was echoing you had to say it again

3:01:02Linus Sebastian:yeah no it's fine I was just razzing you yeah basically that though I think the main way to do it is through support effectively technically Mozilla yeah kind of that's a bit of a one off we're going to get crazy amounts of money from Google but yeah usually the like the standard path is is is support so you release it out there hopefully it's useful for someone And hopefully those people want either like a custom fork or just a more general support contract. Free tier, paid tier stuff. Yeah. Generally, I think the normal play is to make that more focused to enterprise customers. There are ones that are just everybody, basically.

3:01:56Linus Sebastian:But normally, I see that being enterprise customers.

3:02:00Luke Lafreniere:I told Hacksmith, Luke asked if he can have one to got any more of the scrapped ones. He says, ha ha, I'll see. That's pretty non-committal.

3:02:07Linus Sebastian:I mean, if not, I'm buying them. So it doesn't really matter. EJC said, speaking of that Mozilla thing, are you using something different now?

3:02:19Linus Sebastian:I'm trying to think across all devices. I was using Zen for a bit, which is like a Mozilla fork. And I was enjoying it. I'm not currently using it right now because I think I tried to like Pac-Man install it and it didn't immediately work. So I just kept using Firefox. I didn't like look into it. But I might eventually try to get it back on my desktop again. I like to Zen. Zen had like all your tabs are vertical and on the left side instead of across the top. And I liked that because I generally use Chrome for work or a Chromium browser for work. and Firefox for personal. And one of the reasons why I do that is just keep separation.

3:03:01Linus Sebastian:And using Zen with the vertical tabs made it like super obvious which browser I was in. Because sometimes when they're too similar and my current setup for Firefox and my current setup for Chromium on my desktop, I get caught sometimes because they're kind of too similar. And I'll load a YouTube video in my like work browser. And then, oh. Terrible. time to watch 10 million years of ads. So then I have to bring it over to my personal one. And that's like pretty annoying, but yeah. Luke meta mint cinnamon and Zen. I mean, yeah, man.

3:03:39Luke Lafreniere:Nokia asks, Hey, did you not do the float plane announcements? We didn't, but we also kind of accidentally did. Cause apparently the one I was supposed to highlight this week was Linus interviews, the LTT head of writing about LMG content. So the only thing I have to change is that he asked me to show the timestamps. showing what we talked through. So tech jet, fire truck, what we use the jet for, tech house, first upgrade for the tech house, when we're ready to sell, investing in support, Riley, elephants in the room, family vlog, departures of notable talent, talking through nostalgia isn't a viable strategy, Mr.

3:04:17Luke Lafreniere:Carney's line from his speech recently, becoming more agile. how do we avoid being full corporate future of lmg what about the other channels and how do we 10x our media side how are we 10xing cw so that's the uh that's the topics and sammy asked if you guys leave a comment on that video if you want to give a suggestion for other leaders at the company that you would like to see we've already done terry um james obviously and luke to an extent which he might not remember. Sammy predicted that. Oh, yeah. That's the one. Well, so Sammy says, Luke will probably go, what video? And then you're like, bam.

3:04:59Luke Lafreniere:And he'll be like, oh. And then he'll be like, I was so out of it during this shoot.

3:05:04Linus Sebastian:Okay. The reason why I reacted that way is because you interviewed James on this one. You didn't interview Nick Lucas and I.

3:05:11Luke Lafreniere:No, someone did. Watch the exclusives either on YouTube members or at a lower price at lmg.gg.fpun.

3:05:18Linus Sebastian:By the way, there's a bunch of people trying to tell me how to install Zen. That wasn't my point. I can figure it out. I actually, for the Linux challenge... Look at this man. I have super specifically...

3:05:28Luke Lafreniere:Do you think he needs to install Zen? Yeah. He dodged the hard R incident. He has full Zen.

3:05:39Linus Sebastian:That's my pre-installed Zen. No, I've been actually very specific. I'm okay with friends giving me input or advice,

3:05:51Linus Sebastian:but I've been hard ignoring any comments I see because that seems unfair in regards to the Linux challenge. So I've got a buddy that I've known since I was 15 who is a Linux head and will talk to me about Linux stuff sometimes. Is his name a secret? Can I guess? I don't think you know this person. oh okay yeah um you can guess but i don't think you know okay um so like i'll talk to them about it but like i i'm not gonna go out of my way to seek unfair potential input and just like let me figure it out dude yeah it's part of the fun what yep hey lld you guys have talked about how you

3:06:36Luke Lafreniere:liked visiting taiwan i will be visiting later this year is there a place you visited several times or would like to visit because it's so great i just play badminton so i just i work all day and then i shuttle cock all night and then i sleep he sure does sometimes i go out for late night noodles i like spicy noodles yeah uh sometimes i call luke and i'm like hey it's really late but i need spicy noodles yeah it looks like yeah i'm down almost every time not

3:07:13Linus Sebastian:technically all but almost every time uh there's a fun restaurant if i'm assuming you're talking mostly in taipei there's a fun restaurant called pay my tuition i went there because i thought their name was funny and then i actually really liked their food and their vibe was really awesome uh the highest rated indian food restaurant i've ever seen in the entire world is in taipei It has 8 ,248 reviews and is 5.0 stars on Google Maps, which is wild. Wendell showed me this place. I'm going to butcher the pronunciation. Oye Punjabi Ethnic Indian Restaurant. Good food. Nice. 2J Cafe is like one of the vibiest places I've ever been in my life.

3:07:57Linus Sebastian:Dawn Park is a cool place to go. most of my things that I have flagged in Taipei are restaurants because I'm usually trying to go there with people um but the coolest individual thing I've done in Taiwan if you want to somehow get yourself out there um I don't know how to say this so I don't know how to help you find it nice solid but it's just called 11 it's at 605 Taiwan Chiai County Alishan Township good luck have fun it's uh you stay up there for 24 hours and uh you live on a native reservation in the mountains and you pick tea and you chop down bamboo and use a section of the bamboo to make rice then you incorporate the rice into making mochi and your dinner and all these other kinds of things and it's fun it's good hey hey how has the issues at the tech house been going any big

3:08:53Luke Lafreniere:projects coming soon apparently we're going on tuesday with an excavator and we're just going to go ham on the backyard because there's like a stop work thing while we apply for some permit stuff but it doesn't apply to the outside okay so we're just uh jordan's organizing it and there's a sign-up sheet with like what tools you have and can bring he seems reasonable enough i'm sure he called before he's digging uh yes yes yes bc one call was informed yeah so we're so we're just going for it, apparently. The thumbnail will involve me in an excavator. I'll see you there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good luck, everyone.

3:09:34Luke Lafreniere:How do you suggest I deal with a vendor whose entire software seems vibe-coded and doesn't do good QA work? It's hard being between admin, who wrote the contract without teeth, and supporting poor software. I think you're boned. Yeah, get out of there. they can't admin signed up for it so they're just stuck with it we've never experienced that really why what did i what did i sign up for at least it wasn't you what oh oh okay i i seek people's input on decisions when i know that i'm over my head especially when signing a contract i don't sign contracts lightly yeah um i've learned

3:10:23Linus Sebastian:i think i don't know seek man seek it out if you can um there is very often early termination stuff but it might be better to deal with an early termination fee than to deal with something that's just completely unusable um

3:10:43Linus Sebastian:yeah cool get in contact with someone who might be able to make some change and and raise some stink flag all the ways that they've just been really really terrible basically and be like yeah we can't work with you guys let us out and see what happens hey dll i loved the recent video

3:11:00Luke Lafreniere:about comparing the macbook neo with other windows laptops but is that video intended to be the full review of the neo no um the neo launched while i was away for a fairly extended period of time so they did a short circuit while i was gone and then the question was okay well like what kind of macbook neo content can we do that would be additive and so i dailyed it for actually a few weeks now that i think about it it's been out for a while um and basically from when i got back to like a couple days ago i've been dailying the neo i really like it overall i definitely ran into some some weird issues but overall really liked it and um one of the ideas was macbook neo 30-day challenge but honestly it wasn't even enough of like a challenge for me to have that much to say and so it ended up getting rolled into one of the other ideas we had which is comparing the neo to other similarly priced windows machines and um so what i ended up doing was just using some of the insight that i gained dailying the neo to make a better comparison video that was just more informed by my own personal experiences so i think i don't know if you're going to get a full review of the neo on linus tech tips uh i think that was probably it in terms of additional context that i would you know add at this time not much uh if you're really reliant on you know a high-speed external dock i would say the neo can be a bit of a downer but other than that i just really liked it i if i was buying one again i'd spring for the touch id model just because like going back to windows hello and going back to a macbook with touch id is just plain better and you also get more storage but really i when i think it's going to be killer is like neo2 i want the 12 gigs of ram that supposedly will be supported with like an a19 pro and uh just a little bit more speed it's going to be like neo2 is going to be if apple can keep the price the same ish it's just gonna slay it's just going to be no competition left to fight neo is eating valves lunch right now

3:13:04Linus Sebastian:is growing i'm so confused by that no it's not what what what don't worry about it that's not a thing what what no what no no no no what no all right dan what's next what i'm gonna need a couple a couple weeks to get over that um

3:13:27Luke Lafreniere:will we ever see the return of tech trivia answered in the form of a question miss that show also why does ltd labs.com have more gpu data on it for example there's a review of the 9060 but no data or why doesn't they're asking uh that's something they're working on they're working on getting all the gpus on the site but it just takes time um and especially when there's no video demand for that data then it has to fit in with the articles and videos and short circuits and everything that they're supporting behind the scenes as for tech trivia answered in the form of a question? Never. I felt so bad for everyone who participated in that, all the creators.

3:14:11Luke Lafreniere:The questions were so hard. Because I was intended to be a participant, I never got to review them. And I was just basically, if you go back and watch it through this lens, you can see me desperately trying to make it not seem like horrible that nobody knows the answer to anything. and like because the questions were so hard and i didn't actually know that normally um like on jeopardy you're supposed to like they're primed on what the questions will be about it's not random oh they know like the topics yeah so they can like study ahead of time and stuff interesting because like yeah otherwise why would anyone know the exact year of that stupid thing of course that makes sense now in retrospect but i didn't know that when we were setting up this thing and apparently neither did any of our coordinators for this project.

3:15:04Luke Lafreniere:So like, I mean, there's some people that we worked with on that, that I don't think ever worked with us again. And like, I was too embarrassed to ask even people that are like, I would say, you know, relatively like friends. Like I just didn't even ask them for a long time because it was just like kind of embarrassing across the board. Yeah, it was, that was, that did not go well.

3:15:28Linus Sebastian:the the second half of the oh uh it was about uh gpus on the labs website um sure i mean i'm just going to talk generally about gpus on the labs website so it's probably okay um the labs website is is interesting uh people will read the articles lucas will post them on read it and then people will see them there and then come read the articles and that's all that's all cool and stuff um nobody looks at the the product pages um the the product pages get we've we've tried a bunch of different things to make them interesting but realistically i think just like print reviews these days like hey i wonder if there's a reason why all the written review sites are dying uh who knows uh i think we we you know might have found out so we're we're figuring out what we actually want to do with this stuff the articles have been doing well like i said um and we we think there's a future in tools like the the whole versus mode thing um where you can like look at two different products uh side by side and and see the comparison this is a particularly cool part of it being able to i guess we don't have the size data for one of them but being able to look at them side by side gpus in particular is something that we weren't uploading for a while for long boring reasons and as some people have noticed we have started again uh putting some gpus up there but like uh keeping the product reviews populated on the site is not a high level high priority goal for the lab because i think just in 2026 that's not uh a like low-hanging fruit or a particularly valuable fruit for pretty much anyone we are seeing again traction with the articles so we've been pursuing that more um that's that's been kind of fun and and interesting for us more fun and interesting than just farting out more um like just stream of consciousness product reviews um and also you guys are resonating with it more as well so we're kind of reacting to honestly what what you guys want we do think some of this is because of search engine stuff with ai but yeah apparently no you do not get information of any

3:18:08Luke Lafreniere:sort ahead of time on jeopardy so i was misinformed oh all right

3:18:17Linus Sebastian:stealing your thunder there's some people saying like is this a uh i lost it but somebody somebody basically mentioned is it yeah is it a discovery problem

3:18:28Luke Lafreniere:um well we happened to start publishing written articles right around the same time that written

3:18:33Linus Sebastian:started getting killed by ai yeah uh they also said wire cutters profitable yeah wire cutters like when i go to their front page um we took hundreds of walks to find five dog leashes we love get that affiliate revenue from that mainstream content yeah that's it's not it's not power supplies um and also this isn't even a profit play the labs website doesn't have any ads on it i don't know i don't know if like so many of you run ad blocker that you never realized but but like there there is this is non-ad blocker there's no ads on the lab site anywhere it's no part of this is a is a profit play we we made a there's there's information out there and through usage statistics we kind of figured out that people uh don't really want to read text reviews in 2026 so that's okay uh we also figured out that people are fairly interested in like the the articles we've been writing so great uh it's just fairly natural like reacting to what people want that's it cool to linus also an adult with braces nice i'm happy

3:19:52Luke Lafreniere:with how straight my teeth are progressing but i'm bummed about the things i no longer eat for fear of breaking a bracket are there foods you now avoid nope i was always a completely non-compliant client. I would eat popcorn. I've chewed chewing gum with these because I'm crazy. I eat apples. For me, the only real obstacle is like pain because these brackets sit super proud, these stupid ceramic braces that I hate. But in terms of like going easy, man, I'll eat corn on the cob. It's like creamed corn at that point because you're kind of mashing it from both sides. you know double chew hey lld i am the head of engineering at a drone show company that did a 1000 drone show for the youtube creator conference last week how are you heard you were there and wanted to know your thoughts yeah why have my thoughts when you can have my video that i recorded of it um here where is it i think i think this will do oh yeah here we go bud here i'll send this over to you okay done cool in the meantime let's do another one while we wait for file downloads and such hi linus and luke what's your favorite board game to play on a game night you should check out the pac-man board game corridor such a great such a great time anyway thanks for the free shipping so it's fun and it's not close sorry board game yep they have a board game yep oh cool it's so good actually 8.7 on board game geek totally unbiased take because he you know would normally hate anything slay the spire oh definitely definitely yeah yeah yeah

3:21:42Linus Sebastian:uh one one to four players it's co-op it's really good um it gets each player involved that's cool I'm not surprised it's it's pretty highly rated um everyone that I know that has played it including people that have never played the video game including people that don't even like video games every single person has liked it that's cool I play whatever my kids like they've

3:22:09Luke Lafreniere:been really into Munchkin lately um it's pretty basic you know as far as like being into cool board games go but uh yeah they they enjoy the heck out of it um uh we like uh we like clank as a family as well that one's fun um cards the thing that uh that i get the most requests for for my kids is let's play hearts um i got them into it a little while ago and it's it's such a good game it's uh just that the things can get heated sometimes around the queen of spades though people who play will know ready for that video yeah yeah you can throw up the video let's see what do i do i think it's go now recorded horizontally because i'm not an animal and i don't have audio on that's fine that's good what is this uh it's a drone show you may want to oh is there a way to play it back faster i can i can take it through oh okay okay uh so yeah this was cool i was amazed at how stable they were look how flipping stable these are yeah pretty cool so yeah they did uh they did a drone show and it basically probably the coolest one was the globe but i don't think i caught that one here they are reconfiguring they did a mancat this one's pretty cool maybe let it play for a second yeah it just looks really bad yeah when you don't let it play yeah yeah uh i i had never seen one before this was my first time uh it was it was cooler than i expected and i really liked the way that they kind of had you watch the transitions between the different things but you would have like you'd have to be clairvoyant to you know realize exactly what they were going to be going for on the next one yeah it was uh it was very cool they had a they had a couple different things they had someone um on one of those like like with a jet thing on their hands and then one on their back like you know like a jet suit so he kind of flew around a little bit and then they had skydivers that um dropped out of a plane they had like sparklers behind them as they like came down through the sky and then they deployed their parachutes and then they like ripped like right over our heads and landed in the field there so it was yeah it was a pretty it was a pretty cool show wow hey linus time to finally use my gift cards they also brought out oprah what to do a talk yeah i mean she's the og content creator think about it she started just in like local news and made her what built her built her empire into her own show her own network and she recently joined YouTube, so it's pretty on topic.

3:25:02Luke Lafreniere:So we have Oprah to blame for shorts. I would say I would say no.

3:25:09Linus Sebastian:Sounds like it to me.

3:25:11Luke Lafreniere:Oprah goes on TV. Dominoes fall down. Now we are talking about disabling shorts with a timer. Are you looking up Oprah's channel? Yes.

3:25:19Linus Sebastian:I did, yeah. Did you mog Oprah? You have more subscribers than Oprah.

3:25:25Luke Lafreniere:Well, yeah, for now. Plus ratio. her view counts are all over the place. Wow.

3:25:34Linus Sebastian:Oh yeah, you got 1 million next to it. 4.5 thousand, 1 million, 2.8 thousand. 2.3 million.

3:25:43Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, like all over the place. I don't think I've ever seen a channel with a spread like that. And not like, to be clear, I've seen channels that have one video with 5 million views and then like a bunch with 500 views, like where they had like one viral hit. But the fact that she goes between like functionally zero views and millions of views from one upload to the next i was thinking

3:26:06Linus Sebastian:like okay did this did go gentle or whatever did they like buy a bunch of views on that but then

3:26:11Luke Lafreniere:this one yep 2.5 for there yep it's just all over the place man yeah okay okay okay this is

3:26:22Linus Sebastian:it doesn't matter but oh it's just a little bit weird that it's always the third video in oh okay okay not always once it broke off but it has like the same cadence for when it'll just pop off it just pops once in a while it's like roughly every four videos they go from single digit thousands it's clips oh is it interesting so the main line yeah the main it's the long videos okay so yeah 46 minutes and it gets 2.3 million views and then these little cuts of that video get only a few views so this is lmg clips but oprah basically god it's just not super obvious without looking at the length or the view count which one is the primary video so this one's an hour 2.5 million views do you think it's set up as a podcast and

3:27:25Luke Lafreniere:they're not actually listening to YouTube? Maybe. They're listening to the podcast? Maybe. I don't know. Because our WAN show playlist on the LTT channel is a podcast. But there's a separate podcasts tab. Would that have podcasts in it? So go to the Oprah podcast, 74 episodes, and those should be the same videos, because a podcast is just

3:27:47Linus Sebastian:a type of playlist. Yeah, they totally are. And so this is going out to RSS feeds. So her podcast is very popular. Got it. That makes sense.

3:28:01Luke Lafreniere:Okay. Sorry to hear that Wily giraffe. They have to go be social instead of hanging and watching wine. Disgusting. Sorry. Sorry. I'm just going to bend. Sorry for your loss. Don't come back. Okay. Hey, Linus, time to finally use my gift cards. Is there something that you know your team could improve, but it's never going to be profitable or marketable for it being just too niche or too specialized?

3:28:29Luke Lafreniere:um i don't know our posture i think they meant like products like oh oh oh like the cw team yeah uh oh so so a chair then yeah yeah thank you for that sandals i think that we could improve the desk pads and um and no one would care you can ever so slightly because it stretches in one direction but not the other direction you can ever so slightly detect if you like kind of press hard and move a thing that it's like a little bit oval tracking like a little bit um and literally after all these years of us selling hundreds of thousands of desk pads no one's ever noticed or cared. So yeah, we could do it and no one will care.

3:29:16Luke Lafreniere:So we had talked about in the early days... You're going to get complaints now. Yeah, whatever.

3:29:21Linus Sebastian:I knew the whole time. I knew something was off. Yep, yep, yep.

3:29:27Luke Lafreniere:In the early days of Kyle being here, we had talked about doing like a pro cloth desk pad that was either the same stretch in both axes or no stretch and just kind of never got to it. Linus, how is the team liking the new Ubiquiti EV chargers? I just got a Toyota BZ and am in the market for getting level two chargers. I mean, I think the team likes any charger they get to use at the office because they don't pay for it. They seem fine so far. Is there any new screen tech to replace OLED? if not what options exist for iphone 11 users me sensitive to pwn flicker who prefer apple's ecosystem iphone 17 is a no-go oled causes headaches slash nausea wow that's uh that's rough dude because on mobile everything's going oled i have heard of this um yikes like micro led i know apple was putting a bunch of investment into that supposedly maybe for the Apple Watch at some point.

3:30:38Linus Sebastian:Have you seen these?

3:30:44Luke Lafreniere:I have seen things that do that, not from that company, like a no, you know. Yeah.

3:30:54Linus Sebastian:I have seen displays. Super modern being shown just to developers right now. I wasn't sure if you'd seen or heard of it.

3:31:02Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, it's definitely a thing from other brands. I haven't seen theirs though. okay okay um but the reason why i asked you in that way was i didn't know if it was public or not i'm not sure yeah so man and even micro led like i wonder if you'd have the same kind of pwm control flicker i i feel for you man i'm sorry i wish i had an answer for you the last one i have today edge dll the hoodies i got the past few years have really come in handy during my first winter here in northern Sweden. I think it's pronounced hey. Hey. Nice. Any new designs coming with the same hoodie as the circuit tree one?

3:31:46Luke Lafreniere:I love that. Ooh. Oh. Yeah, the funny one that was a tree that was a circuit. The circuit tree.

3:31:54Linus Sebastian:I thought they just didn't know how to spell it and they meant the framework one.

3:31:58Luke Lafreniere:No, yeah, not that one.

3:32:00Linus Sebastian:But I gotcha. Just because they're foreign.

3:32:02Luke Lafreniere:yeah so cancelled just because they spelled hey wrong yeah yeah yeah isn't this one just our blank i think so pretty sure yeah i'm i'm pretty sure that um any colored blank hoodie should be this one it's funny that that's the one you like so much because i'd say it's one of the less unique ones that we have uh-oh is our site down

3:32:39Luke Lafreniere:oh okay we've been having some minor wi-fi issues oh brilliant okay tops so man i'm afraid to say something wrong message support just in case but i'm pretty sure this is literally it this is the circuitry hoodie but without the circuitry um so it's just our our blank hoodie for 60 cad and i believe the same one should be obtainable oh yeah i guess we just never did any other prints on it so yeah pick up the blank hoodie neat good chat that's all you got well that means that's all i got we will see you again next week, same bad time, same bad channel. If you are bored and looking for something to do, hey, you can always go shopping on lttstore.com where we are running our Shipstorm sale event.

3:33:32Luke Lafreniere:Orders over$150 on the US and, oh wait, oh, interesting, on the global site, the threshold is lower for Canada. I did not know that. Okay, well, whatever. Whatever site you're on and wherever you live, past a certain threshold, you can get free shipping on your entire order and if you sign up for Floatplane, lmg.gg slash floatplane the thresholds go down even more after you link your account so it's a great time to sign up for floatplane for early access content blah blah etc etc see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye

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