Microsoft Did It First Apple - WAN Show September 11, 2026

18:49What?

18:50Luke Lafreniere:And distilled water? Apparently. Soft-bristled children's toothbrush, two paper cups, paper towel. And so I, so especially sleeping with my AirPods, I build up wax on them like a lot to the point where the noise cancellation like barely even works. And so I was like, I ended up using a brand new pair to like do a short circuit or something. I was like, man, It's mine's like it was mine wearing out so I looked it up and apparently no it's just because the microphones get gunked up and in order to clean it you have to do this and I was like what the f*** is this you know what's funny yeah you know how all three of us were like what what

19:29Linus Sebastian:what what and chat chat was like what are you talking about what is that it's makeup it's makeup remover oh all the all the dude bros be like oh I've never heard of this micellar water

19:44Luke Lafreniere:It has to be a thousand dollars a bottle.

19:48Linus Sebastian:Well, it is a cosmetic product. It might just be. At what chemical supply store will I find this fantastical water? MG Chemicals doesn't stock it. I gotta go right to Exxon Mobil. Comes in 80-gallon drums. Oh, no, it's cheaper than bottled water. Okay. Oh, man. That's pretty funny. Noki says, my cellar, I barely know her.

20:13Luke Lafreniere:okay so um what why are demographics like 97 male again i know there's gotta be a reason for it i

20:22Linus Sebastian:can't quite more like 98 yeah okay so specifically the neutrogena one because i think they they called that out says like contains whatever acid boosts skin moisture while removing makeup and impurities so yeah it's it's supposed it's probably just like

20:38Luke Lafreniere:hyaluronic acid i know about it's it's like a skin tightening thing okay yeah it's it like is crazy like it actually makes a difference huh yeah at what uh at what is it accomplishing though like why so what it does so it does a couple of things one is um like if you just want to look better rested that day you literally just like apply it and it like it like bags aren't gonna be as noticeable if your skin's all tight it's not gonna it's not gonna unage you yeah you're exactly as old as you are and it's like that simple yeah um but the other thing that it does is if it's used regularly by by making like like deeper creases less deep they take longer to like form i actually didn't start using it until fairly recently it it like works pretty good um anywho where are we so yeah airpods 5 i'm legit excited about them and i'm excited that i finally know that that water is not some exotic chemical because i honestly didn't even look into how to get it because i was like what is that how can apple possibly expect me to obtain that i've never heard of it before so honestly i probably i probably have it in my house already

21:52Linus Sebastian:if we weren't live on the show i probably would have done the same thing i just not bothered to even i would have been like what the okay whatever forget it but we're alive on the show so i was like highlight search with google oh okay uh that's so funny one weird thing that i just noticed is the the difference between okay so you have airpods 5 and you have airpods 5 wireless charging case oh yeah and with the volume swipe yeah there's more to not only just that though there's

22:16Luke Lafreniere:more battery life yeah i told you five hours hour yeah yeah and that one is the one that actually went down in price, I think.

22:24Linus Sebastian:Yeah, it's I mean, it's not that much of a jump, really. Yeah. So it's a really small gap. And I think kind of nice. So if you want to save 30 bucks, you don't mind plugging your case in and you don't necessarily need the like the extra hour, then you can save 30 bucks. Evil.

22:37Luke Lafreniere:They're a multi trillion dollar organization. And they and they do nothing without a purpose sort of interpretation of this is that previously, the most people might have been going for the lower tier, AirPods 4. They're just trying to get people to go up. Trying to get people, like the lower one is now just so they can stay starting at, and then that's the real one. But they knew that they couldn't have that high of a jump. Times are tight out there. What is it? They call it like ice cream cone pricing or whatever? Something like that. But basically trying to increase ASP, average sell price.

23:13Luke Lafreniere:So by eliminating the super high option that maybe most people weren't choosing, making that one more attainable, and then making inherently the starting at one less appealing, they can overall on average sell AirPods this generation for a bit more. Yeah. And you know what? In this case, whatever their rationale was for it, I like the outcome, so I'm into it. Finally, of course, there's a new iPhone.

23:40Linus Sebastian:Live translation. That probably only works if you have an iPhone, I'm assuming.

23:44Luke Lafreniere:New iPhone has, it's like better. Oh, the new Pro Max, they claim 45 hours of video playback, like over 40 hours. I don't remember the exact number. Which is, you know, we're not going to get there. We never manage to replicate manufacturer claims when it comes to battery life in the lab. But generally speaking, we do get within some proportion of what they claim. Like if they say 20 hours, we might get 16. And if that same manufacturer says 25, we might get 20. so I would expect this thing to have absolutely monstrous battery and then on the iPhone side there were price hikes but iPhones contain a lot more RAM and storage than AirPods do so that doesn't really surprise me at this point yeah I had to cut a PO today for a bunch of um staging a bunch of materials for our battery bank and I didn't cut the PO rather but I had to approve it or whatever yeah I didn't love it

24:47Luke Lafreniere:oh gosh this is a long email I will deal with this later cool good chat anyway let's move on what do you want to talk about next dude we have so many creator warehouse things by the way this is a better week than ever to send a comm in to producer Dan. Let him get an early start before we do the formal call-out for them later. Here's your... Apparently, we gave this away at the Christmas party, so that's why Sammy had one. See you later, Sammy. Thanks for letting us borrow it for the show. What was I saying? Right, right, right, right, right. Help save Dan's fingers. Remember Dan's fingers. He can't wave like that if he doesn't have working fingers.

25:29Luke Lafreniere:So if you want to send in a comm, maybe do it now. We have so much new stuff. We'll get into it later. point is hey new topic let's talk about something that i genuinely thought was just not real when i

25:40Linus Sebastian:first read it uh sorry okay relationship drama alert kojima productions and playstation studios break up kojima rebounds with the other ones actually i mean it could oh man yeah okay so here the thing that's getting me is like how the hell did you let that happen i this feels how the

26:01Luke Lafreniere:hell not not only did you let that happen you made that happen this feels like when final fantasy 7 launched on playstation instead of n64 maybe not quite that but it it it see it's like like in terms of it's like that one it's in there with the top 10 video game gaming industry anime betrayals

26:21Linus Sebastian:like nintendo kick them out of the door because that's the weird part here is that sony went out of their way to break up with kojima it's not that kojima found like a better deal and left

26:35Luke Lafreniere:sony booted him out the door i feel like nintendo's toxicity towards third-party developers in that era and their focus on hardware that did not allow squaresoft to build the worlds they wanted to build did force Squaresoft's hand a little bit. Or were they Square Enix yet at that point? I think they were still Squaresoft. But no, it is different. This is like... And like... Here's my question. Here's my question. Has... Has he ever had a not commercially successful game? I guess it depends how you define

27:21Linus Sebastian:commercial success i i looked up uh because death stranding was like definitely the weirdest thing that i know of that he output and had the least fanfare around it um as far as i can tell death stranding one uh was a success it wasn't a blockbuster success that they might have wanted but they made money off of it death stranding two it seems a little bit less conclusive um people in chat are saying apparently it didn't do so well. But the thing about Death Stranding 1 that's weird is if you look it up, there's a bunch of people saying that it didn't do well, but it did profit. Enough to make a second.

28:00Linus Sebastian:And I don't know what, well, that might've been Kojima pushing them really hard. Because Death Stranding 1 wasn't like a, wasn't the big success that they wanted.

28:09Luke Lafreniere:So maybe they've just had enough of his auteur sort of era and they're willing to let him walk. Yeah, but it's just like, I don't know,

28:18Linus Sebastian:maybe he's not making a walking simulator this time.

28:21Luke Lafreniere:Here, we should probably run through the actual thing, and then we'll discuss a bit more. So PlayStation dropped Physint, Physical Intelligence, Kojima Productions' spiritual successor to Metal Gear Solid, after deciding to end its collaboration with the studio. PlayStation framed it as a difficult, considered decision, while Hideo Kojima said the cancellation notice from PlayStation Studios came unexpectedly in June. Polygon suggests that Death Stranding 2 on the beaches' disappointing sales might have been a catalyst for the split. Earlier today, Bloomberg's Jason Schreier wrote that Sony ditched the project because of concerns about the game's budget, missed deadlines, and timed exclusivity.

28:58Luke Lafreniere:Now, Xbox and Kojima Productions have confirmed a new partnership with Fizzant's Production Continuing and Xbox publishing the game.

29:05Linus Sebastian:Just to take a pause mid-read, I genuinely think this could be a killer title for Xbox, which is insane and the the crazy thing is like i can understand death stranding is a weird game and death stranding 2 the fact that it had a sequel is kind of weird and i'm i you know i'm not surprised it didn't do that well but the spiritual successor to metal gear and it's called fizzint which like kind of ties a little bit into ai stuff which is very topical right now and like Like this feels, and Metal Gear's whole thing was AI stuff, realistically. Like this is a very timely game. This is very much square in his wheelhouse.

29:48Linus Sebastian:Like this feels like the thing that would bang. And they kick him out the door for this? I feel like this could pull people back to Xbox in like a fairly real way.

29:57Luke Lafreniere:With that said, neither you nor I knows the guy. Nope. Or has worked with him. Yep. Notably, Hideo Kojima previously had a much publicized breakup with Konami, the publisher of the Metal Gear Solid series. So this isn't the first time that he's been shown the door.

30:18Linus Sebastian:Artists, somewhat famously, can be difficult to work with.

30:22Luke Lafreniere:I mean, I think we see that here, even. I'm not always, I can be very opinionated. And no, I'm serious. Yeah, I know. Can be? but i think that's something that and and i run into that with other people here as well too i actually i shot an amd ultimate tech upgrade with uh lisa yesterday who literally is an artist um like she's uh she she does design for creator warehouse yeah and um and it's funny because one of the things one of the i actually love shooting amd ultimate tech upgrade because a A lot of the time, it's the first full day I've ever spent with that person. Yeah. Even though they've like, in some cases, worked here for years.

31:05Luke Lafreniere:Lisa and I have worked together for years. Many, many hours we've spent together. We've never actually spent a whole day together. And one of the - Probably rarely had off-topic conversations too. One of the walls or barriers or somethings that we broke down during the shoot was that we both made what we felt we intended was a joke or meant to be banter the very first time we met that I think neither of us, we moved on from it, but neither of us really felt quite right about for all these years. And it turned out that we were both just doing ADHD things and not coming across correctly. Oh my goodness.

31:56Luke Lafreniere:So she joined the company when Bridget, who's the head of fashion, went on mat leave. And she came in. And so I made what I thought was kind of just like a funny banter joke. Obviously, I know your real name. Oh, hi, you must be new Bridget. To which she gave me some of her trademark Irish sass plus, you know, maybe coming on a little stronger. Maybe she, neither of us, it was like years ago. So neither of us really remembers exactly what was in our heads at that time. But what we know is that she took away like, oh, this guy a little bit. And I took away, oh, this relationship's going to be tough a little bit.

32:42Luke Lafreniere:And then over the years, like it's been fine. And then neither of us has ever really gone back and revisited, okay, what happened there? Like, why did we have such a rough start? anyway so the reason I bring up Lisa is that your starts with people are awesome anyway the point is maybe something to visit she and I because of our directness and passion and strong opinions do still sometimes disagree quite strongly about things And we find, because we've been working together a long time, I think we find ways to resolve them very respectfully now. And we can yield when it's very clear that the other one really will die on this hill and it's that important.

33:30Luke Lafreniere:And it's like, you know, that's okay. But, shoot, I had in my mind one of the things that she was like very, very, very passionate about. Shoot. Well, I don't remember anymore. The point is, we also had a really good conversation yesterday about how excited she was about you liking the Siberia design.

33:53Linus Sebastian:Oh, yeah. I wore it down to PAX last weekend. Oh, this isn't in the doc, but I want to talk about PAX. Okay. This might even be something that I can attach to this topic because we're kind of talking about video games. Cool, let's do it. I wore it down to PAX and I got comments on it from people that had no idea what it was or who I was. so people just thought it was cool people i saw there was a couple people that were like reading i'm not pointing at anything real we're like reading the map because the one that i had was the one with the map on the front yeah uh and i could look at them like kind of figuring it out and then go like oh that's a cool shirt there was at least two comments never get comments on my

34:28Luke Lafreniere:shirts that's cool and and that kind of like okay i remember i was going with this that kind of commitment because she's not a tech techie person and this will really come across in the upgrade right i remember i was going with this um she's not a techie person so in order to create that she had to like do a lot of research it's it's informed and be very committed it's a cool and put in a lot of work that is not obvious necessarily to just any person who looks at it yeah and when When you're someone who is passionate like that and you're the kind of person who also manages to survive in difficult creative industries, you've got to be the kind of person who's ready to stand up for your ideas, especially if you make your way into a more leadership type position, a senior position.

35:18Luke Lafreniere:And so I think it's the kind of thing that just invites personality conflict. If other people don't know how to absorb that energy and push it back constructively. And so I guess what I was trying to say is it's something that we encounter a lot here too, where we have very passionate, very creative people who could easily find themselves in personality conflicts, especially with people that they don't know well, like, like I, like Lisa and I did initially, but it doesn't come from a place of like malice or negative intent or anything. It just comes from, and in the case of someone like a Kojima, having experience, having passion, having a vision, and being willing to stand your ground.

36:03Luke Lafreniere:And so I don't want to blame the guy for having been through multiple breakups. I'm just saying that from a complete outsider's perspective, it doesn't surprise me that you might have these kinds of differences.

36:14Linus Sebastian:And I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't want him to make Death Stranding in the first place, and then didn't want him to make Death Stranding 2, and then were just kind of frustrated with him.

36:22Luke Lafreniere:and now he's finally making something that's like actually probably like you know a commercial success in the waiting but he's asking for more money and more time and you know what forget it

36:32Linus Sebastian:we're done like i could see that well i think it's going to end up being a bad move something in my gut is telling me this game is going to bang i don't know what um i feel like the stars

36:42Luke Lafreniere:are kind of aligning well it's also getting a major totally unpaid publicity hit right now yeah or not not like uh not like a like a hit he's not really saying like like a hit like

36:52Linus Sebastian:everybody's talking about this yeah this is pretty big news um yeah okay sorry i think you were like

36:58Luke Lafreniere:halfway through so we can keep going no i'm done there was just one funny thing in uh uh dominoes uk apparently joined in on the drama saying playstation thought the game was called physical so they had to back out oh man that's pretty good actually the sickest of birds i haven't seen that one yet sickest of those um yeah i don't know have you played any kojima games honestly one

37:22Linus Sebastian:of the biggest problem for me was we were not a playstation house we didn't have every console right so like we we like couldn't really i would play metal gear every once in a blue moon at a friend's house but when i was growing up there were single player games i don't know if i think there was eventually a metal gear game that was multiplayer or co-op or something but when i was up there single player games i remember seeing um that like fighting one of the bosses you had to like move your controller from port one to port two or something there was like some really i remember thinking like that's these games seemed really inspired but just like the the uncharted games i just didn't really have access to them right uncharted looked really cool metal gear solid games looked really cool a bunch of the different kojima games looked really cool um but I just didn't really have direct long-term, okay, I can beat this entire game access to them.

38:16Linus Sebastian:We play a couple minutes here or there, everybody, so it's just because they'd be excited to kind of show what the game was off. I was always into stealth games, always interesting, but for me, it was the things I had access to, Assassin's Creed, Splinter Cell, stuff like that. Right, yeah. So, yeah, no, I'm excited, though. I mean, if it's coming to Xbox, hopefully that means it's coming to PC as well.

38:37Luke Lafreniere:I mean, no guarantees these days. They've been kind of wishy-washy about what exactly building a great library for Xbox means in the context of...

38:50Linus Sebastian:This feels like the first serious win in that regard, though. Largely from Asha, it's Asha Sharma, right? Largely from Asha, we've seen cutting things down. Talk of growth, yeah. Talk of growth, actions mostly being cutting things down. This is the first one where it feels like this is just growth. Making moves. And it's interesting, and it's a title that I really feel like could pull people in. And it could also potentially pull people in that weren't traditionally Xbox people, which is very, very interesting. So we'll see how that goes. I want to talk about PAX real quick. Sure. I went to PAX last weekend, Penny Arcade Expo.

39:27Linus Sebastian:They call it West now, which hurts my soul because traditionally it was called Prime. Which was way better. Well, traditionally, it was called PAX. Yeah. Yeah. And then PAX Prime and then now PAX West. Just one of the PAXs. Yeah. And Sag. It's kind of weird now because there's like two convention centers that it's in. Oh, really? Because the Seattle Convention Center is two completely separate buildings.

39:50Luke Lafreniere:Not that, yeah. And it's not that big overall. Like any one of the buildings alone could not contain. Oh, bro.

39:56Linus Sebastian:The newest Seattle Convention Center is enormous. Oh, I haven't seen that. Dude, it's called, it's like probably the biggest convention center I've ever been in. it's it's likely closer to one of the bigger buildings i've ever been in oh it's called summit but wait pax isn't in that pax is in that they're in that pax is also in arch no way which is like the original okay well it shows you what i haven't been so the arch building which is where you know pax bounced around a few different convention centers eventually landed on the primary convention center in seattle which is now called arch uh well which is the seattle convention center and the building at that time was called arch should have been called arch by And now that building is used as like the video game expo.

40:39Linus Sebastian:Oh, but not much else. All the rest of the stuff is in summit. There's some panels at arch, but mostly it's just a video game expo. And then summit has like the PC free play console, free play, something that I feel like they added this year. Cause I haven't seen it before, but the arcade free play, which is actually really fun. BYOC is there. They have, they have a bunch of tabletop stuff. They have an entire floor, which is just tabletop things and tabletop free play. And then they have a whole other massive area, which is still tabletop, but it's like tabletop RPG area or like wargaming style play.

41:16Linus Sebastian:Along with something that my friend group ended up playing for a surprising amount of time, which is Crokinole. Which you slide a little disc around and whatever. That was actually really fun. But really interesting year. we went for two days, just one overnight. The first day we spent almost the entire time in the video game expo hall. After we got back to the place we were staying, I asked everyone I was there with, which was like three, you know, two of my buddies and my brother. I was like, name one AAA game we saw on the floor. Nobody had an answer. We saw the entire expo hall. No one was there.

42:00it was super weird to the point where apparently i i heard a lot of rumor this is why i wanted to

42:07Linus Sebastian:talk about it i heard a lot of rumor mill stuff while we were there including from pank rats because i ran into pank rats on the floor um not like physically but um that there was there was okay first of all you've been to pass before the hallways were really wide oh like drive a car down it wide comfortably with some people standing in there as well super super wide there was also a massive area which was just uh art vendors like the person sitting there would be the person who drew the art and you could buy the art which is cool but also not something you would see in the it's cool on the boardwalk like oh they're pretty premium i've seen them at expos before but you would expect that at the summit building with more of the like tabletop stuff or whatever else you wouldn't expect it in the prime video game expo hall thing and apparently they weren't they were originally going to be in the summit building where you would expect them to be along with like other kind of trinkety things that you can buy not the video game hall but they were there which means if you look at the massive area that they took up that not only are the hallways super wide but this huge area of artists also is people that didn't show up um talked to a couple vendors which were more willing to be open about it and they were like yeah we were like begged to be here last minute apparently rumor mill entirely rumor mill i have none of this as fact not super long before the event nintendo fully pulled out and that caused like a cascade of a bunch of other vendors to be like well if they're not doing it maybe we shouldn't either and apparently the reason is gta

43:46Luke Lafreniere:six really just everyone everybody's just bailing why bother yeah gta six will literally hoover up every single dollar and every single playtime hour this was the rumor on the floor from like

44:01Linus Sebastian:everyone i talked to i talked to a bunch of different people they all had the same opinion it was gta six the little indies are just like i don't know whatever it's it's gonna plow over everyone anyways we're just doing what we're doing um and the big names are just trying to dodge it so they're not going to bother do marketing spend which was really interesting because that made it that an event that gta didn't sponsor most of the chatter was about gta because everyone else bailed out whereas if people showed up they might have actually been been talked about But this was, this was like, as far as apparently everyone I talked to is concerned, by an insane degree, the worst year for PAX's like video game expo hall ever.

44:46Linus Sebastian:And like, that's been kind of happening almost every year for a while now. But this is like the biggest drop. It was, it was not good. I kind of wonder, does GTA matter to Nintendo though? This was interesting. There's, there's some thought. It's a really different game. Again, this is all purely rumor mill. there's some thought that they didn't want to cannibalize their Nintendo Direct where they announced the Ocarina of Time remake sure so maybe Nintendo's reason was different and then other booths assumed what their reason was and they assumed it was GTA so they all bailed but the assumption might not even be real because it's rumors about people who made assumptions based on something that they weren't sure about which is like so we really have

45:38Luke Lafreniere:no idea to me nintendo making a decision on ego versus nintendo making a decision on fear i'm gonna go ego every time yeah and if nintendo's going we don't need this thing doesn't matter our direct is gonna bang anyways yeah like i wasn't nintendo the first to bail on e3 out of the big three i'm not sure i don't i actually don't remember uh but i i know that they've been doing nintendo direct for a long time now and that's kind of been that's been the play for the for the for the big dogs for for ages now like apple doesn't bother they will literally just drop a product in the middle of the week with no fanfare whatsoever before they would bother to show up at a ces yeah you know what i mean and like it's funny because you'll go to ces like i I forget what year it was when Google bought like all the banner space to push RCS and Apple's refusal to adopt it.

46:39Luke Lafreniere:But like they're shouting into a void. Yeah. Apple might have some people there, but Apple ain't there. They're not at the show. They wouldn't stoop to announce, to make a big announcement at CES. and so in the same way it's become kind of a like you know primary sex characteristic swinging move to just be too good to do your stuff at someone else's event you just stand on your own stage with your own friendly invited audience and you do your big announcements

47:18Linus Sebastian:yeah and like Crystal's mentioning it may have honestly been a case of the economy here being utterly trashed the economy here the economy everywhere uh but the economy i'm gonna you know editorially insert everywhere just being utterly trash blah blah but uh yeah um whatever reason it was the the talk on the floor was mostly about gta yeah and there was some cool indies and stuff and like we had we had a good time but we mostly had a good time because it was like fun to hang out for a couple days not because like um the the gaming expo hall really gave us much to work with the the tabletop area and the the like free play stuff has been cool for a while the fact that they have vr free play there is pretty sweet um hey speaking of vr you found your base stations have you played on your big screen i haven't had time to set them up yet i

48:14Luke Lafreniere:You probably have time on Sunday. Sir, you bought a big screen beyond two. And you still have not used it. Have you put it on your face?

48:23Linus Sebastian:No. By next WAN, I will have used it. If my base stations still work, which is a concern. You are killing me. By next WAN, I will have used it.

48:33Luke Lafreniere:As much as I am crushing the soul of one Mr. John Panazzo, CEO of Eshtech. Okay. Who makes HexOS. You know the feature? What is this transition? You know the feature? It's a really good one. You're going to like this. You know the feature that I've been asking for to exist for literally like 10 years? An easy, no hassle, no configuration way to do buddy backup. Yeah. He gave me access like a week ago. And he's like, bro, I'm piped into, because like he's piped into my system for telemetry and stuff because I'm like an early tester. He's like, bro, I know you haven't opened it. He called me yesterday.

49:20Luke Lafreniere:Anyway, this is a really exciting milestone. Investment disclosure. Users of Eshtec's HexOS NAS operating system have a new option for off-site backups. It's here. Holy crap, it's in beta right now. Users are using it. Buddy Backup allows users to request space on a friend's server. Both parties must have a valid HexOS license to participate. Friends control if they accept the request, which server and storage pool the backup will land on, and they can adjust storage limits for buddies at any time. It is their server, after all. Backup arrangements can be ended at any time for any reason. When possible, servers will connect directly to each other over a secure peer-to-peer link, but they can utilize a relay if your ISP doesn't allow direct connection.

50:11Luke Lafreniere:The HexOS blog post states that the relay service is free during the beta, which implies that it might not always be, which makes sense. I mean, if it's a... If they are... It's an ongoing service. Yeah, that makes sense. You can backup to multiple buddies, and you can host multiple backups for multiple buddies. Backup schedules can be managed and rate-limited manually, or you can let HexOS handle it, and your data is fully encrypted before the transfer. Sorry, you might have even said this. Do you have to use the relay? Nope. Okay. That's only if for like an ISP block or some kind of like enterprise grade NAT or whatever, they cannot establish a direct connection.

50:54Luke Lafreniere:Yep, got it. Your data is fully encrypted before the transfer, meaning that it never exists in a readable form on your buddy's server or during transmission. And if you want to learn exactly how it all works, maybe Dan, you want to throw the article from the hex os uh blog in the docs okay cool and then you can also sign up for the beta at the bottom of the blog post these guys i know i haven't talked about hex os much lately but like dude they have been absolutely cooking with gas um the way that new features have been developed that we thought were going to be like years into the roadmap is mind-blowing to see yeah they're they're really executing we're going to be we're going to be doing like some videos over the next little bit um just cleaning up my my whole server situation um i have never really talked about this because overall i thought it was a really cool product but i have never fully made the switch to image even though i've actually done not one but two guides over the years for how to do it um and the reason that i haven't done it which i've never really talked about is every time i go to do it on my system i come up against oh man they still make you use their weird proprietary nonsense jumble of characters folder structure for as far as i can tell no reason other than that i'll be locked into it forever now because it like messes up all of my file structure sure um it doesn't change anything that you already had in a given file structure but everything you ingest into it it just makes some random string of characters name folder and like starts dumping things into it and then makes more and starts dumping things into that and i just can't wrap my brain around that i like a clean at least to the greatest extent that i can have one a clean folder structure um and hex os is working on a partnership with another tool that has very image-like capabilities, but allows you to keep your folder structure.

53:03Luke Lafreniere:I mean, even Plex doesn't have the audacity to tell me that they're gonna just create their own folder structure and not consult me. Like, that's exactly the sort of thing that I'm trying to avoid. Like proprietary metadata storing schemes and folder structures. It's like what I ran into with Canon Zoom browser back in the day, where I painstakingly tagged and organized all of my pictures, and then I did a reformat without keeping the.db file or whatever, and it was all gone. I'm not vendor locking in on a freaking photo browser. Never again. And so I'm actually really excited about the partnership that they're building.

53:48Luke Lafreniere:They've got all kinds of really cool stuff that they're working on. Edselm says, have you considered PhotoPRISM? Let me have a look. I wonder if that's the one actually I literally don't know if that's the one um it could be and I powered privacy first for browsing organizing sharing photos and videos it helps tag search and rediscover media without getting in the way yeah maybe I'll maybe have to check it out I'm actually not sure if uh if this is the one I don't think so I don't think so I'd have to find out anyway what were we talking about again oh yeah so uh so yeah hexOS they're cooking and i'm really really excited about the roadmap line go up and to the right what's up what are you looking at i'm sneak peeking at an

54:38Linus Sebastian:at another upcoming topic okay let's do it let's do it

54:43Luke Lafreniere:do we do we do comms or do we do the topic oh we should we should do the comms we should do the comes there's dude there's so much stuff here we are apparently this is the first time hearing of it um moving away from individual apparel drops and instead we're grouping them together into a monthly drop so we can bring you guys more of the stuff we're excited about all at once oh oh this will probably help people consolidate their orders and pay less shipping that's cool that's cool because you know what diesel just hit over six dollars a gallon in the u.s holy freaking bananas fuel costs so why don't we just why don't we do fewer shipments so we've got some new and some returning items for september oh okay i guess this is the part where i start modeling all the cool stuff on the show uh first up is our new rgb baseball cap it has a minimal silicone LTT logo at the front with that RGB design that we've been known for in some of our hoodies and t-shirts over the years that adds a little bit of color without being too loud.

55:52Luke Lafreniere:It's actually, Luke, do you want to follow along so I can throw over to the site when ready? Oh, okay. Yeah, there it is. Get us like a zoom, or one of the zoom shots so that we can really see that little flecks of color. Yeah, there we go! Just with a little bit of fun. And that's a custom silicone thing that also has the flex in it on the on the ltt logo all about the subtle branding yeah all right we also have a new tote bag uh oh yeah here you go blank tote bag available in black and kangaroo i am not much of a tote bag guy but the tote bag people that we have in creator warehouse assure me that this is an excellent tote bag is it a real kangaroo or faux kangaroo no it is not made of kangaroo dan faux kangaroo we've got two new flannel shirts this time uh luke is modeling it so i'm gonna actually oh wait so i'm gonna go to the luke cam there we go hey there he is uh we have it in buffalo check and in rgb so if you get a close-up look hold on wait for it wait for it i love that our photos are always so good now that I can count on the thing that I want to show you, having a photo for it.

57:11Luke Lafreniere:It is really nice. These are great for layering as we head into the colder months. That is such a cool flannel. And our LTT Boxer Briefs are getting two new prints. Like two new sets of prints. So we've got video games. Creatively named video games. Like unlimited video games? You get to see these now. You've got games on your

57:38Linus Sebastian:junk what about unlimited bacon um hold them up yeah you're professional he'll never he'll never

57:43Luke Lafreniere:figure this out dan it's just one of his learning disabilities pretend to look at them but in front of your face in focus wow there you go okay you could you could you could let the then you could look at the back of them while you show them to the people i am oh okay you can do that when they're folded too get it get it the family jewels yeah yeah okay what is this one and potions and

58:02Linus Sebastian:stuff what do you mean what are they no but that one has like a pun family jewels what is it i mean

58:06Luke Lafreniere:it's just cool i don't know your sword and hilt like yeah it's just like yeah i don't know it's just cool weapons and stuff you got two shields and a long sword lisa worked hard on a nice repeating pattern that has lots of fun little stuff on it you gotta show them the whole thing there you go how cute is that and then we always try to have just like uh a more someone might see my underwear today like very just wearable blank you don't want them to see your your your potions and your jewels some people i might like to see that yeah and then our other underwear collection is our error collection so we've got kind of like a you know red because that's the color of errors that's just kind of our our plane on that and then also our glitch as well as there's a cute little blue screen it says stuff on it you can't just gloss over it what what this one is it's just it's a glitch it's glitchy

58:57Linus Sebastian:Pick the olhaver line. And again, just wantkoz is Lower off camera. Thank you. Your PC has run into a problem, but I just got lazy and shut down. Oh, this is the same thing that's on the mouse pad and the water bottle and stuff. Your PC has run into a problem. I was going to fix it, but I just got lazy and shut down. Hopefully, it turns back on 69 % complete. Very nice.

59:16Luke Lafreniere:Very nice. Also, we're restocking our blank baseball caps, and those are available now. You can check out the September drop at lmg.gg slash September drop. Did we have kangaroo in the blank baseball cap before? I don't think so. You know what? I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not 100 % sure. The blank baseball caps, a big part of what we're doing here is we are slowly, painstakingly, laboriously making our way towards creator warehouse becoming more of a brand of just quality products, reasonably priced, that other creators can apply their branding to. So you'll see over the coming years, it's going to be a long transition, you're going to see more and more of the LTT branded products on creator warehouse branded blanks that could be available to other creators if they just, you know, like our style.

1:00:17Linus Sebastian:Because as someone asked in full punch out there, like creator warehouse question mark? It's like, yeah, creator warehouse is the actual company behind LTT store. So Creator Warehouse could make things for other stores. Yeah. I think on the legal side,

1:00:32Luke Lafreniere:we either do have it set up or it doesn't matter because they have the same ownership. So we could just deal with it later. But Creator Warehouse is a completely separate legal entity. That I know for sure. And I think it's just that they have a license, effectively, to create LTT branded apparel and products. And so there would be no reason that Creator Warehouse couldn't also work on a licensing agreement or some other mutually beneficial agreement with another creator. It's just taking us a really, really long time to learn to be an apparel company. Because other than some of the people who came in with experience, the top-level leadership had never done it before.

1:01:17Luke Lafreniere:And we did the Larian backpacks, but there was some... It took a really long time. Learning pains. an embarrassingly long time yeah if i'm being perfectly upfront about it i don't think we ever really acknowledged that before but that took way too long and not because we were malicious or lazy there were some reasons we had to we were switching who we worked with oh that i think we have not talked about i didn't give a ton of details all right screw it at some point um we changed backpack suppliers have i talked about that i don't know if i did maybe the wan conversations blend yeah that's that's fair um at some point we changed backpack suppliers because a long time ago um there was some you know issues around double layers and what was to rectify that and um long story short it was not good enough in my opinion and so we moved on and we the one that we're working with now great partner been an outstanding partner ever since and um and apparently it took a while to get things going but not into detail okay got it yep so nobody noticed if they didn't hear me talk about it because they this new supplier actually came back to us and said, they're a very experienced manufacturer.

1:02:44Luke Lafreniere:And they were like, hey, there's a lot of ways that we could actually save quite a bit of money on this backpack. Would you like us to do that? And we said, no, do it exactly the same way with exactly the same materials because we do not want, other than two layers on the bottom, please. Because we do not want people to like accidentally get a revised one. That's not what they expected. It's not a V2.

1:03:08Linus Sebastian:You're still trying to make the same backpack. Exactly. But, you know, if you made other backpacks with them or something, whatever, then maybe you could have discussions there. But, yeah.

1:03:16Luke Lafreniere:Speaking of backpacks, did you ever feel that our OG backpack wasn't big enough? Yes. Okay.

1:03:23Linus Sebastian:Is there some? Oh, my. I might like that one. Whoa. Heavy breathing. Whoa. Okay. All right. Okay. can't wait to see that later oh hot damn yeah okay that's interesting that is interesting because i found like the that old bag that i have oh the ever key yeah yeah that thing can hold a lot and the the ldt pack can't can't hold as much um and i have looking at it ever it's it's it's intriguing to me but then my my ldt bag has the larian stuff on it it's so cool oh wow that's

1:04:08Luke Lafreniere:pretty sweet too actually well we know somebody who could embroider you another fake one oh so don't worry at all okay you're fine all right okay oh that's oh my god really oh my god when are we properly showing them when are we talking about that uh is that far out this is i think this is sample handles uh don't worry about that okay that's not gonna be a thing okay Oh my God, look at that part. Matthew does, Matthew experiments, and the right time to experiment with ideas is in the early sampling stage. And that's an experiment that we've talked about. Which one do you prefer, I guess? Well, so one of the challenges people have with the commuter bag is that when you hang it, you can't open the laptop pouch while still leaving it on a hook.

1:05:00Luke Lafreniere:The OG backpack, you can. It's hook, it's handle slash hook. is in a position where you can still open it and do everything you would need to do while it's hanging. And for some people, that's an important feature. Yeah, yeah, there's an OG. No, I know, yeah. And so we were trying to address both use cases of picking it up from a more balanced central location so that it doesn't hang all a kilter, and then also making it so you can open it. And one of his ideas was, what about second handle? And I think what we're going to do is a hanger hook at the back one, like a dedicated hanger hook yeah and also a handle doesn't the current one have a hanger hook that's it's also the handle it's a hanger hook handle oh okay there you go thank you dan yeah okay all right um okay i don't i don't want this one anymore though anyway still this one's this ones i think on sample three for og backpack i think we ended up doing like six um i don't think we'll do six for this one i think say it feels pretty close maybe maybe maybe one more maybe two

1:06:15Linus Sebastian:more after this well that would be pretty close to six um we want to get it right i was gonna say it also makes sense that the first backpack you make would have the most revisions and every cycle

1:06:27Luke Lafreniere:it takes you know a couple months and then we need to do mass production then we need to wait for shipping and marketing and packaging and like all that stuff so realistically this is probably like a year out yeah who knows maybe new tariffs will come in too yeah you know that's always it's always helpful when you're planning out your product roadmap and your suppliers and everything just like randomly barriers get erected yeah build the wall anyway way you can follow at made by creator warehouse for more launch updates we're going to be posting launch updates fun reels and some behind the scenes content as well that you're not going to want to miss oh apparently there's a really good one that came out today apparently a lot of them

1:07:25Linus Sebastian:accurate wow his feet cross the wrong way come on okay so at made by creator warehouse over on

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1:08:11Luke Lafreniere:all right what do we want to oh right right right so uh why are we talking about all the products available at creator warehouse because we believe that if you're going to throw money at your screen during a stream that you should get something great in return, like these great products. But that doesn't mean we don't also want you to be able to send in chats. We just don't want you to do super chats or like Twitch bits or whatever. We want you to use checkout messages. So all you gotta do is head on over to lttstore.com, add any one of these great items to your cart. Actually, I think we have all lengths of the Type-C to Type-C TrueSpec cables in stock right now as well.

1:08:49Luke Lafreniere:So now's a great time to pick up some TrueSpec cables. just go ahead and add anything to your cart and you will see the checkout message interface just type something up it'll go to producer dan once you place your order there he is who will pop it up on screen like that one that's up there if you're just like hi mom or whatever or he'll reply to it or he will curate it for me and luke to respond to and also dan people people like talking to dan through the checkout messages as well what do you got for us today mr dan oh First one here is for Luke, I think. Hey, LLD. Luke, I met you at PAX briefly this week.

1:09:25Luke Lafreniere:How did you like it this year? I went for the first time this year, had tons of fun, despite people saying it's been lacking recently. He talked about PAX for like five minutes earlier, Dan.

1:09:32Linus Sebastian:I did, I did.

1:09:34Luke Lafreniere:If you have anything more to say, this one came in like minutes into the show. That's fair.

1:09:38Linus Sebastian:That's fair. That's why it's first. Yeah, the shortish form of it was I had a great time, but I had a great time because of like the friend group I went with and the people we met while we were there.

1:09:47Luke Lafreniere:Maybe the great time was the friends we made along the way.

1:09:49Linus Sebastian:Pretty much. The expo itself was pretty lackluster. There was some cool stuff in the tabletop area. Summit has become a more and more interesting part of the event. And the video game expo hall has become a progressively less interesting part of the event. Hardware vendors are absent these days. There's no like Intel, AMD, NVIDIA. None of those guys show up. Very, very few peripheral companies are there. um and there just isn't really the the presence of really like anyone amazing new games either so there's really just not a ton to go for was the indie zone still cool at least the indie zone is usually what i liked going there for um

1:10:40Linus Sebastian:this year i don't know i saw a lot of indie games that i saw there last year

1:10:46Luke Lafreniere:I mean game development do be taking a long time these days so that makes sense I think the indie games I was most interested in

1:10:54Linus Sebastian:this year were games that I had already seen I'm trying to think of like standout indie games there was definitely a few that like I took their card for and I'm going to go wish list and like just see what happens with them there was some game where you like play as a bird and you have to learn bird songs so I was like well okay I guess I'm buying that for Emma um but yeah man there's uh there was one i'm not gonna remember the name of it but there was like a crazy football game and i used to really like blitz for n64 uh and but it it seemed like kind of too crazy in some ways and not crazy enough in others like they would have like rocks on the field that you could trip on which was like a little and like every once in a while this like i don't know giant enormous snake would bust out of the ground and like eat you and i was like okay well that's feels like almost too much oh uh okay and then in blitz after the play you could tackle each other really hard and try to like injure the other team by just like spamming tackle and like the play would end then you just see like all the players dive because both both people playing the game were just spamming tackle yeah and and you know it's just supposed to be kind of fun and this one you like square up and punch each other and it's just it doesn't feel like it feels like kind of out of place like no it's a football game we should be tackling each other you know i'm saying right um we do violence this way yeah not that way to be honest yeah kind of that way is not okay so it feels like a football tape to tape but taken too far in in certain ways and not far enough in others.

1:12:36Linus Sebastian:Okay. We'll see, but it's, you know, it's indie game at PAX, so I'm probably still working on it.

1:12:42Luke Lafreniere:All right, I'm going to jump in with one quick thing before the next checkout message. Narnal02 says, did you see that Buddy Backups is coming to Unraid? I actually did know that. I didn't know you knew that, which is why I didn't mention it. But Buddy Backups, like HexOS Buddy Backups, is coming as a, I don't know what the, I have no idea what the pricing model will be for it. But it's coming as a feature to third-party NAS OSs. Cool. Including Unraid.

1:13:11Linus Sebastian:That's awesome. So you could buddy back up from your HexOS to your buddy's not HexOS setup? That's cool too, because then you don't have to, not everyone has to software change. Yeah. That's pretty sick. Pretty based, honestly. I like that a lot, actually. Yeah. Because that was going to be a bit of a problem. Yeah. Like if you're doing it for your family, maybe no one else in your family has a setup yet. So you just HexOS all of them and then it's easy. but if you're trying to do it with buddies that might already be into home lab,

1:13:38Luke Lafreniere:they might already have a setup that they like. I hope I'm not talking out of turn here, but one of the platforms that will be supported is TrueNES. Yeah. So literally you will be able to install buddy backup as like a feature without the full HexOS experience. And in my humble opinion, this is like the smartest move that the hashtag team has made so far because buddy backup is is absolutely something that you can just do already you can set up schedules and you can set up automated jobs and you can set up whatever like port forwarding or you know whatever tunneling encrypted tunneling that you want to set up you can set up your data encryption you can set up all of this stuff you can make your own buddy backup but or you could just press this one button and so it's going to be it's going to be people's first exposure to like the hex os magic which is yeah you could totally just do this yourself but what if it was easy there's people in full plan chat asking will you still need the license requirement i don't know how they're planning to do licensing for that.

1:14:49Luke Lafreniere:I could foresee the possibility that it would be a paid thing. I don't know exactly how they're going to handle that. Like at the end of the day, I'm, I am an investor and I am an advisor. And there are certain things that I did make conditions of my investment, like that I needed buddy backup built. I wanted just there to be an easy way to do this for just like any random, you know, travel creator. They should not have to buy some proprietary box that has a lockdown hardware software ecosystem. And they should not have to, on the other end of the spectrum, jump through a bunch of hoops with some like arcane, like it's meant to be administered by someone with a degree in administering this thing.

1:15:37Luke Lafreniere:There had to be somewhere in between. And that's what I wanted HexOS to be. But beyond like, you know, the stuff I laid out in the beginning, I can't just tell them how to run their business every day. It doesn't work like that. So it's up to them what kind of model they want to have.

1:15:58Okay.

1:15:59Luke Lafreniere:I think Dan had one more time. Any updates on the Auto Linux switchover program and it's actually viable? Is it actually viable?

1:16:08Linus Sebastian:Oh, it's not ours. Yeah. Did I say we were making one? No. Oh. We talked about that there's a community project. Oh, I haven't looked at it again since then. No, me neither. So I would go to the person who makes it. Sorry about that. Yeah.

1:16:30Luke Lafreniere:We'll just go through one more quick one here. Hello, Wanners. Any changes have been made from the old flannel design to the new one?

1:16:38Linus Sebastian:Good question. oh that's a

1:16:41Luke Lafreniere:that's a terrific question for the creator warehouse team I do believe we made some adjustments to the fit um

1:16:53Linus Sebastian:it is work hours

1:16:55Luke Lafreniere:yeah if you want to ping them um I would ping uh yeah I would ping Bridget probably Bridget um also another good bit of feedback in float plane chat was on hey can you guys add country of origin to the website pages because we do have it as mandated by the law on all of our garments um but i don't think we have it on the pages i don't know if there's a reason that they do or don't put that um but they had noted that they'd had some import issues around some stuff that was made in china i do know that we have significantly decreased our dependence on china these are made in Cambodia, for instance.

1:17:38Luke Lafreniere:These underwear are still made in China. I was actually, you guys might have noticed me poking around at some of these things because other than that, you know, we are, we're trying to, you know, mitigate global trade barriers as much as we possibly can. We're mostly just about making sure that we're building the best product that we can for the best price for our customers. So I wasn't actually sure where any of these were sourced from. So I was just checking them. What are these? We never actually opened these. These are underwear. Oh, these are more underwear. Oh, okay, so this is just the packaging for the underwear now.

1:18:14Cool.

1:18:14Luke Lafreniere:The flannel is a different fabric, heavier weight, and slightly bigger fit to compensate for that, but the same details. Cool. It is warm. Yeah, I do be warm, even with it open. I am cooking. It is a lit studio here, not a breezy autumn day outside. Yeah. You can take it off if you want. I might at least unbutton it. Okay. But the deal is that you have to wear these over top of your pants for the rest of the show. No, I mean, we can't see the bottom of you. I can turn on the camera.

1:18:48Linus Sebastian:Is it still? It's not still down there. You don't still have feet, Ken. No, I put them away. Okay. I was like, there's no way. Secretly, he's just had it this whole time. Pays for the building.

1:19:04Linus Sebastian:Oh, God.

1:19:04Luke Lafreniere:Okay. Hey, do we want to jump into another topic here?

1:19:08Linus Sebastian:Yeah, the Ikea Skyrim crossover you never knew that you needed.

1:19:13Luke Lafreniere:I did not care about this here at all. Didn't even bother reading the article. I literally just left this in the dock because I figured this would tickle you. Lead us on, Luke. What are we looking at here?

1:19:28Linus Sebastian:So it seems like... Here, let's just check out the trailer on YouTube. okay can you can you can we do that yeah dan tamriel yearns for a new type

1:19:43Linus Sebastian:uh it's definitely just us mute okay there we go okay so we're jumping part way in okay um but yeah kallax storage born a free creation for the elder scrolls 5 skyrim so creation is like official mod yeah um it's just so timely yeah extremely timely the game definitely just came out is it muted it's muted

1:20:10Luke Lafreniere:organize your loot and send clutter back to the fires of oblivion

1:20:21Oh.

1:20:31Luke Lafreniere:Kallax storage barn. Your inventory vows end here.

1:20:36Linus Sebastian:Ah, you're finally awake. Jubilation. It like froze or something? Sure.

1:20:47Linus Sebastian:Wow I'm making the same face You know what? Time for another run of Skyrim You know what? I like it

1:20:57Luke Lafreniere:I'm tired of brands

1:20:58Linus Sebastian:Taking themselves too seriously I genuinely think it's fun I'm surprised they didn't do it with like Cyberpunk or something Even Cyberpunk's really old at this point Maybe there just isn't really a lot of options Sure Bothersgate Nope. I could have seen it as a companion in Baldur's Gate.

1:21:17Luke Lafreniere:No, I like it. It's a little bit newer. I like it. I think it's just nonsensical and irrelevant enough to be very relevant and totally make sense to me.

1:21:30Linus Sebastian:Yeah. I like that it seems like they actually kind of tried.

1:21:34Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. Which is just perfect. They put low budget effort into it. Yeah. Which is the right amount of effort and the right kind of effort to put into something like this. Oh, yeah. How many views does that trailer have on YouTube? Like a quarter million. Okay, so some people cared. That's pretty good. Enough to start another Skyrim run? Probably not. Enough to... 194 ,000. Enough to buy a copy of Skyrim if you don't happen to already own it? Probably not. But enough to tickle people who like Skyrim and are aware of Ikea? Yes. Sorry, is it free or paid? Free. It's free.

1:22:10Linus Sebastian:Uh, it's gotta be free, right? There's no link.

1:22:14Luke Lafreniere:Do you have to compile the mod yourself? It's free, says FakeGiraffe.

1:22:18Linus Sebastian:Oh my god. There's a bunch of good comments. You know, for people that played Skyrim, the, like, top comment is a new shelf holds the beacon, which is just great. It's not even April Fool's Day. Ikea collab before Alderskroll 6 is crazy. uh all right Todd you can delay test six for another 20 years oh man apparently yeah apparently to like summon it or something he yells Ikea is it not like a companion

1:22:52Luke Lafreniere:it's Ikea

1:22:54Linus Sebastian:which is just so good it's very inspired whoever approved this good job

1:23:02Luke Lafreniere:yeah I feel like there's one of two ways that this um came to be one of them was like careful deliberation and um like deep thought about brand synergies and gaming community reaction and and all that and then the other way was just like an email rolled in on a friday afternoon and it was sure whatever i'm going home

1:23:29Linus Sebastian:Yeah. And then it just actually happened.

1:23:31Luke Lafreniere:Which one do you think it was? I'm kind of leaning on the ladder, to be honest. From Bethesda standpoint, I lean ladder. From Ikea standpoint, I lean former. I think Ikea probably thought carefully about this. I mean, they're a slick company. Don't let their sort of friendly brand persona fool you. Or their unfriendly origins. They are a machine, Ikea.

1:24:03Linus Sebastian:there's some discussion questions okay i closed it i don't know if they matter they don't okay sounds good um oh you know what actually this is a good one what's an underrated piece of

1:24:16Luke Lafreniere:furniture that people moving out on their own for the first time might not realize they need oh don't forget to get your bedroom chair stop this guy you already have one it's fine i didn't think a coffee table matters it mattered as much as it turned out it did we we very male thing we got a we got a we didn't end up paying for one for a while but it was very important to obtain at least a free one because it turns out that if anybody comes to your house they do in fact need somewhere to serve the dixie cups of water that you give them um and a coffee table is as good a place to put that as any can't do that if you don't have a couch though um this is true but i think the question was things that people might not realize they need i think even lucas had a couch when we went to did you watched his coffee table upgrade right and he just like did not own anything but he did have a couch i think he said his mother made him buy it because she came to visit and was like oh my god son um

1:25:24Linus Sebastian:you need basic furniture yeah yeah okay do you think of anything true minimalist i don't know

1:25:30Luke Lafreniere:i think you can do without yeah some people buy things that make them look and feel more minimal

1:25:37Linus Sebastian:he just didn't he just skipped that step just being minimal from the beginning just don't buy it in the first place

1:25:47Luke Lafreniere:don't get rid of things just never own them

1:25:50Linus Sebastian:I think a lot of stuff can be done without I didn't really have he's the true you'll own nothing and be happy except he's like yeah

1:26:03Linus Sebastian:that sounds great

1:26:10Linus Sebastian:I don't know yeah I think a lot can be done without I feel like for you know for a lot of our audience I suspect a very high percentage of our audience is people interested in whammon the whammon do like a frame for the bed that took me a while to figure out instead of just having a mattress on the floor I really like mattress on the floor. Headboard. Loved mattress on the floor.

1:26:39Luke Lafreniere:I don't care if it's mattress on the floor. You can have a mattress on the floor as long as you get a headboard. Sure. That's all that matters. Yep. Are you offering up the women's perspective on this, Dan? From what I've learned. Yeah. Both surprisingly important. Yeah. I mean, that's something that is honestly, I'm experiencing secondhand embarrassment that either of you did not know that. With that said, in fairness to me, I was still living at home at this time. Futon, not impressive.

1:27:12Linus Sebastian:No.

1:27:14Luke Lafreniere:Not comfortable. No. Yeah.

1:27:18Linus Sebastian:Almost everything can be worked around. If you don't have it, it can be okay. But try to just make it look like you tried to make it work, whatever it is. Yeah. a plant is honestly probably more important than a lot of different things of furniture you know

1:27:36Luke Lafreniere:what let's go with plant yeah yeah even a fake plant is better than add a little bit of color have something on the wall bias lighting yep have a table land indirect lights yes if if you have a

1:27:50Linus Sebastian:room that has one single one thing you guys indirect lights plant or two okay you can't

1:27:56Luke Lafreniere:buy one thing at ikea that's true that's illegal wait no no i did it once challenge i've done it i think i i i went in for one thing and i came out with one thing i went there for lunch once oh once oh i i used to do that all the time no like just yeah yeah yeah yeah oh it's too far for me to i know i lived in i worked in richmond oh so we would literally go to ikea for lunch and yeah man this this ikea skyroom collab is really good marketing we're talking about ikea again i know they won they won the corporate bastards did it again what happened we're talking about ikea oh yeah yeah yeah i wasn't to be honest dude they're talking about shopping anywhere the coquitlam location used to have the best cinnamon buns they suck now dude the way it's unfortunate you don't do you have any idea how fat i would be if donuts didn't suck now

1:28:47Linus Sebastian:like i'm the kind of person who you do delete an entire box of crispy creams It's crazy. The speed is the craziest part. It's nuts. You'll be out with him. He'll buy an entire box of Krispy Kremes. And you're like, oh, interesting. I guess we're having Krispy Kremes. No, that is not the case. Linus is having Krispy Kremes. And you won't even notice. You'll see him put one hand in the box and come out with one donut. And then you'll look away and then look back and all the donuts are gone. By the time you get back to the car. It's actually insane. And yeah, I eat really slow. and he eats, I think, like slightly above average fast, but not like crazy fast, but just inhales.

1:29:29Linus Sebastian:Specifically Krispy Kreme donuts. They're so light. It's crazy. I've genuinely wondered before, like do you compress them or something? I don't know how you do it so fast. I eat them like cotton candy.

1:29:41Luke Lafreniere:So no, like so you take a bite or like an apple where your bite is not, you don't close your teeth. you just grab it and then you kind of bird it so he'll he'll do a whole box of them in like

1:29:58Linus Sebastian:i don't know i bet you could speed run that at this point um and uh yeah so the fact that

1:30:05Luke Lafreniere:tim horton's donuts are inedible now just garbage and ikea cinnamon buns are also equally inedible now compared to when i was a teenager is a huge part of how i have maintained a somewhat reasonable physique going into my 40s because if tim horton's donuts were good like if they still had a quality baked fresh in-store blueberry fritter dude i used to buy a half dozen of those and eat them in a day have you have you i was a teenager mind you and i was like i was teaching swimming lessons and stuff like i was like swimming a lot and everything and you know

1:30:41Linus Sebastian:whatever but yeah you're months into creatine now have you noticed uh body change no

1:30:48Luke Lafreniere:No, the biggest difference for me has been cognitive. Yeah. I function...

1:30:53Linus Sebastian:So I more meant like, because some people, I know women who, as far as I can tell, based on studies, benefit from it more than men do. But I know a lot of women are concerned about how the extra water weight would be carried. But a lot of times after you've been on it for a while, it kind of like normalizes out anyways. But I was wondering if you had noticed any...

1:31:16Luke Lafreniere:I have been less consistent about going to the gym because I've just been really busy with work lately. I noticed there was a photo of you on like the Reddit or something where you pulled your shirt up and you look meatier.

1:31:27Linus Sebastian:In like a good way, not a bad way.

1:31:28Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, I'm definitely, I'm a little thicker, but I was already working on that before I started the creatine. Right, so it's hard to. And I'm not noticing like a huge difference in recovery time, honestly. For me. It's only supposed to be about 10%. Okay.

1:31:41Linus Sebastian:It's not even necessarily recovery time. It's supposed to be about 10 % of like. Like endurance too, right? Yeah, you can do a little bit more.

1:31:46Luke Lafreniere:I don't notice a big difference in endurance. For me, the big one is cognitive and then how well I function if I've had very little sleep.

1:31:53Linus Sebastian:Yeah, those are the most important parts to me. I'm too warm. This has to come off. Yeah.

1:32:02Linus Sebastian:Still kind of there. Those are the most important parts to me, but different people respond to it in different ways. So it comes down to that. Have you been able to convince Yvonne? Have you talked to her about it? Yeah.

1:32:15Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, she just started like a week ago. Nice. Let's go. Master of None says we'll need to revisit the apple thing. Like, just you put your teeth into the apple and then you like rip off a big chunk. If you can't do that, it's a sucky apple.

1:32:28Linus Sebastian:I also don't normally eat apples like one chunk at a time even necessarily. Bite, bite, bite, and then chew on it for a little bit.

1:32:36Luke Lafreniere:That's crazy.

1:32:37Linus Sebastian:I don't think that's that crazy.

1:32:38Luke Lafreniere:I mean, look, this is the man who didn't finish one hamburger in the time that I finished two, two days after I got my braces on. So, like, yeah, sure. Whatever method you have is super inefficient. Sorry, I don't care.

1:32:57Luke Lafreniere:Oh, man. That's funny. Slice your apples like a gentleman. Dude, man, it must be nice to have time in your life. I mean, I talked about this a couple weeks ago. Like when the family was out of town for nine days and I would like sleep in, do chores, work out, cook for myself, clean the house and be like,

1:33:24Luke Lafreniere:man, people must have so much time. Like it's crazy.

1:33:30Linus Sebastian:I've filled my time. Yeah, but just like... I do also know a lot of people that just have infinite time though. It's crazy. It is a thing. Like I just, I just, I never like, if I removed like, if I removed extra hours from this job and I removed one other thing that I'm doing, yeah, I would just have like infinite time. I just, yeah. Yaxter reasons not to own a company. Yeah.

1:34:01Luke Lafreniere:And kids, I guess. um but like i just uh man i i yeah to be clear i wouldn't undo either of those things it's just i you know when it comes down to like i would i would sometimes marvel at like other content creators even be like so on top of like you know doing the same thing that i do for a career you like have this side hustle and you have all these hobbies and it's just right no kids got it all right the craziest thing i ever did was start a company with an eight-month-old baby yeah that was nuts yeah yeah babies are not good partners they can't do any math their communication skills are terrible math is terrible never start a company with an eight-month-old baby no no like fiscal responsibility such a joke uh i think we should probably do a couple sponsor spots the show is brought to you by he's not here uh do we do another topic dan

1:35:06Linus Sebastian:let's slam through this uh nintendo announces new customer customer appreciation sale made possible by tariff related refunds which is i think exactly what linus expected when we were talking about this in the past uh nintendo of america is calling it one of its largest promotions ever with 30 % off dozens of Switch digital games, digital, and bundles plus discounts on select physical games. Okay, cool. DLC accessories, Amiibo, and apparel running September 12th to 26th in the US across the eShop, Nintendo store, and participating retailers. The company's statement says the sale is made possible in part by tariff-related refunds and that while Nintendo absorbed most tariff-related costs, the refunds helped make promotions like this one possible.

1:35:53Linus Sebastian:Nintendo reported a$300 million tariff refund in its earnings after the tariffs were ruled illegal and it raised U.S. hardware prices citing those same tariffs in 2025. Customers sued earlier this year arguing refund money should go back to the buyers and Nintendo asked the court to dismiss the case saying players received exactly what they bargained and paid for.

1:36:16Luke Lafreniere:I think this is pretty cool and I'm going to give myself .00001 % of the credit for this idea. Credit for the idea? Yeah, I talked about this on WAN Show. No, I know you did. Yeah.

1:36:29Linus Sebastian:I don't know if you get credit for the idea.

1:36:30Luke Lafreniere:I think Nintendo saw the WAN Show and came up with their own idea to do this. I think that's possible. I think.0001 % of employees at Nintendo, one employee at Nintendo watched WAN Show and probably didn't talk to anybody there who made this decision.

1:36:47Linus Sebastian:There is probably at least one employee at Nintendo that has seen the WAN show at some point.

1:36:52Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. So I'm giving myself just a tiny fraction of the credit. I think it's actually a really cool way for them to generate some sales, create a little bit of buzz around the brand.

1:37:06Linus Sebastian:I definitely understand. I think we talked about this before. I definitely understand people being like, oh, but I should get some of this. It shouldn't be a discount on new products. But how do you do it? like again i bought my switch from mom and pop willow video down the road how am i gonna get my money back for this i mean so like the only thing they could realistically do i think would end up being refunds if you bought it like directly from the nintendo shop counterpoint they do product recalls you know recall notice infrastructure exists

1:37:43Luke Lafreniere:it's not the same thing i'm just i'm playing devil's advocate right now i'm not like look i i came i i came out in the early days of conversations around who should be getting tariff-free funds like really early on you and i were talking about this before anybody else was like anyone was suing for for their part of tariff-free funds or whatever and basically we talked through the couple scenarios like whose money is it and from a business standpoint the whole tariff situation carried enormous costs enormous burden that we paid for that that that we carried you paid more you did pay more at the till and and some of that was to cover tariff costs but some of it was also to cover just the additional uh or some of it uh some of it was also had to be allocated to those additional costs that we bore and so who like paid for like we didn't make more margin in a lot of cases we made way less so like who paid for it i i i don't know everyone did the whole thing the whole thing sucked um but i think i said at the time that we have no intention of doing any kind of refund program because no um that would be a ton of work to administer even if there was some mechanism by which we could do it and like as much as you know

1:39:06Linus Sebastian:costs were forwarded to some of the customers there are other costs to dealing with all of this yeah we all had to open a freaking warehouse you want to know what's really crazy yeah a lot of these tariff refunds uh there was a company going around trying to buy the rights to the tariff refunds for yeah and the people backing these companies uh-huh yeah big big big fun time cantor fitzgerald is like the main one and they have ties to howard lutnik's kids because howard used to run it and they went around and scooped up a bunch of the rights to tariff refunds for pennies on the dollar ultimately allegedly knowing what was going to happen or what might happen

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1:44:59Luke Lafreniere:Uh... Yeah. What do you want to talk about next? Should we do the LG TV spying?

1:45:06Linus Sebastian:Yeah, sure. All right, do it. Gamers Nexus worked with level one techs and security researchers, putting retail LG OLEDs through packet captures and firmware analysis. On stock TVs, they found the sets scanning the local, like TV sets, scanning the local network and identifying dozens of unrelated devices, including phones, smartwatches, and thermostats. With ACR enabled, the TV sampled context across input. content across inputs to figure out exactly what was on screen. The researchers also found plain text transcripts of voice commands, which I think was the most interesting part, along with conversations they picked up during the surprisingly long recording window afterwards.

1:45:50Linus Sebastian:On compromised units, they went further and showed a TV recording through its microphone while appearing off in standby, then storing that audio locally while disconnected from the network and making it retrievable again once the TV was reconnected. LG told Tom's Hardware, the claims in the video are not true. The company says voice data is only processed when the voice button on the remote is held down or when a wake word like High LG is detected after the user has manually turned on far field recognition. In standby, LG says the TV only monitors for the wake word if that feature was enabled and audio without the wake word is processed locally and immediately deleted.

1:46:36Linus Sebastian:LG confirms this TV scan the network for nearby devices, calling it a standard smart TV function for connectivity and content sharing and says ACR is opt-in and isn't used for advertising without consent to a separate optional agreement. The statement never addresses the plain text transcripts. There's some stuff in all of these back and forths that are a little bit funky. something with the like, oh, without consent to a separate optional agreement, except they would bundle those agreements with other agreements and default all of them. Dark patterns. Yeah, there's like very excessive dark patterns.

1:47:14Linus Sebastian:There's a lot of other stuff going on here. There's obviously coverage of this from a bunch of different places, but I suspect if you use YouTube that you have seen the thumbnail in the last little while because they're currently at 5 million views. but the video from GN on it is pretty intense it's very long it's a good watch yeah we'll see where the back and forth goes but I mean just right off the hop LG's response the like oh separate optional agreement is like okay yeah sure guys anytime there's like obviously dark patterns are a thing I almost want there to be another term for like like consent overloading because what what i i believe this was in the video but um there would be situations and i've seen this situation even if it's not the lgtv let's just talk about something completely separate because i think this was in the video but i don't fully remember uh where you'll get like you're you're you know setting up a device or doing whatever and it's like oh you need to like do these agreements but there will be like six in a row

1:48:22Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, like when you're downloading all of your apps from the Play Store. And it used to be, it seems to be less of a thing now, but it used to be that every single one of them would be like, hey, I need all these permissions. And you're installing like 40 apps at once.

1:48:36Linus Sebastian:You know that like normal human behavior is just going to be like, oh yeah, whatever, just like get out of the way. I'm trying to use my new phone. Yeah. Or TV as it were. Like maybe like, yeah, Eula fatigue. There you go. I kind of like that. Like maybe you'll pay like a little bit of attention to the first one. But then when they start slamming you with more and more and more and more and more, you just want them to go away. And there is an unfortunate assumption.

1:49:08Linus Sebastian:And maybe we've been getting more away from that over the last few years. But there's kind of an unfortunate assumption of like, yeah, whatever. This is just like. It's standard. Yeah. They need this thing. Boiler plate. crap because somebody suits somebody at some point now they need whatever i'll be honest with

1:49:23Luke Lafreniere:you the cookie disclosures have contributed to me feeling like cookie disclosures are absolutely like that like i just i don't even actually think about what site i'm on and whether i want them to have cookies or not i just click whatever buttons closest to my mouse because i actually don't care

1:49:42Linus Sebastian:about that there's browser yeah i i want only necessary and there's browser add-ons that you can run that will select only necessary and just plow uh like blast past it um but those have to be able to read everything that's on your screen all the time and it's some browser add-on written by whoever so like i don't know i i have not i have not ran it yet um nice but yeah there's a lot of it's an interesting video i think people should be aware of what it could do like whether this is actually a problem for you or not is is with all of these things up the cookie thing or the lg thing the whole thing sure um like the i i think like i think your thing of like i don't really care is like oh for the cookies yeah like i hear you i'm not gonna see their ad anyway

1:50:38Luke Lafreniere:yeah and like i i was showing you this the other day i go to like four websites

1:50:43Linus Sebastian:which sucks i barely touch but i think is the average i barely touch google search i think i swear i talked about this like forever ago on wayne show yeah of of like we're we're

1:50:55Luke Lafreniere:moving to internet where the narrowing internet yeah yeah yep and so you know if i'm i'm on some you know i don't know uh things i've been buying recently i bought a i bought an adapter between my home security system and home assistant and they i probably i don't know maybe they had a cookie pop-up i actually don't remember and i will literally never buy anything from them again anyway because that's i already bought the thing i needed yeah but there is there is more than it

1:51:29Linus Sebastian:is fully up to you to not care yeah i just want to put that out there um but i think there is in kind of similar to this whole idea, what's going on with the LG TVs and everything else, is that there is more that can be done with these things. Oh, yeah. They can sell it. They can... And it can be used for other stuff. Like there was... I don't know in what context this clip was from, but if I remember correctly from the GN video, there's an interview with one of the guys on the LG advertising side that's talking about like, you know, the user's going to be on their couch very likely using their phone at the same time that they're watching TV, and we can hit them at the same time in both locations with the same thing to push through, and it's just gross.

1:52:19Linus Sebastian:There was a lot of it that was just icky. But, I mean, this isn't... It's not surprising, which is depressing in its own right. I mean, this is why we've been talking for a really long time about not necessarily wanting smart TVs. And we've been talking about, like, how have TVs been able to stay cheap? It's like, yeah, well.

1:52:41Luke Lafreniere:Well, that's in our discussion question here. Smart TV makers increasingly make their real money on ads and data after the sale, as opposed to the hardware up front. LG's own ad division brags about owning the glass.

1:52:54Linus Sebastian:Which is insane. That's so crazy. They say it so many times. we own the glass at one point in time they mentioned like they effectively owning the living room because they own the glass and they own the like mic and the data associated with it

1:53:11Luke Lafreniere:it's just like jeez man i mean i guess for me um this is one of those things where i'm just like it's like this bombshell revelation to people more broadly and i'm like it does need to be brought to the people yeah it should yeah but i just for me i'm looking at it going like yeah now i'm gonna pick up the other screen and microphone and camera that i have with me all the time and i'm gonna type angrily about it it's like uh i think i think part of that might

1:53:51Linus Sebastian:be like the the devil you know kind of situation i guess um and i think part of that might also be i don't know i would wager the average consumer is more conscious and knowing that that's going on with your phone than they are with the tv you think so and i wouldn't be surprised if someone at some point in time has left their phone in another room to have a conversation and they had the conversation in their living room with their tv sitting right there i i like framework needs to do a tv yeah a tv you actually own sick can you imagine a tv that you could just upgrade

1:54:31Luke Lafreniere:the panel or you could just upgrade the processing yeah that'd be sick just get like a like a faster chip with like better wi-fi or whatever you want the new shield yeah whatever the heck be so cool to be clear i have absolutely the framework does not give me inside knowledge into their product roadmap i do not have privileged access to information i have no idea if they're working on a tv there's so few people i've had casual conversations with nirav but in terms of excuse me sorry in terms of like here's what we're working on or like here's what our like next big bet's gonna be i actually don't know i'm allowed to tell him ideas um but i just want to lay out what that relationship is so you guys understand.

1:55:12Luke Lafreniere:I'm not giving you a hint. I actually don't know.

1:55:15Linus Sebastian:You know a super random hardware vendor that was at PAX? Framework. Yeah, it doesn't surprise me. There really wasn't very many. Wasn't there up there? No. Well, not that I saw, but I was only there Sunday, Monday. A lot of the exhibitors leave early. I mean, he does have a job. That makes sense. Yeah. What was I going to say? Yeah, I saw a bunch of people in the comments saying like, I would buy a Framework TV if it came out. One of the big problems is it would be really expensive.

1:55:45Luke Lafreniere:It would be very expensive. It might, like, literally might cost double. Like, when, what's their nuts? Was it, which one did Best Buy buy? Was that Vizio? I can't remember. We talked about it in our recent video on this very subject where we were looking at, we couldn't decrypt any of it, but we were looking at the sheer volume of data that this TV was sending, just, like, sitting at the home screen. And we were like, yeah, so we brought up the graph. Actually, the one that Adam and I did on the one remaining dumb TV from Scepter as well. We brought up the numbers from that acquisition because it was fascinating that the majority, not just like some of it, but like the majority of their profit was coming from advertising after the fact, not from people buying the hardware.

1:56:34Luke Lafreniere:And so maybe not double, but it wouldn't surprise me if a framework TV, like someone who's not profiting at all after the fact, cost 20, 30, 40, 50 % more. It wouldn't surprise me.

1:56:46Linus Sebastian:I wouldn't even be surprised if it was double. Yeah.

1:56:49Luke Lafreniere:Because they don't own glass manufacturing.

1:56:51Linus Sebastian:And they're going to be starting off at much lower volume. And then the people that are going to walk into the store and see one TV that is at one price that has basically the same features as another TV that is 50 % more.

1:57:05Luke Lafreniere:What if they like branded it privacy TV or something like that? Like, I don't, how do you, how do you communicate this? And also, how do you get around that people with their just surveillance fatigue are going to be like, well, whatever, I'm already carrying this anyway. What I was going to say is I think I'd rather have a brighter knits on my screen.

1:57:24Linus Sebastian:Privacy is very obviously something that a bunch of people do genuinely care about. And I also think... Only until it inconveniences them for one nanosecond. Yes. And obviously that's not everyone. There's some people that will deal with incredible inconveniences for their own privacy. But I I also think that there is a lot that won't. Yeah.

1:57:53Linus Sebastian:Yep! Okay, moving on. It's like a two-hour long video, so if you want to be properly up to date on it, maybe go watch the video. Speaking of being up to date on things, bad transition. The Trump phone just went up by$250. The T1 now costs$749 US, up from$499. Of course, it would be US dollars. What else would it be? And The Verge spotted the change as a quiet website update with no announcement and no hardware changes. The phone is still the same Snapdragon 7 Gen 3 device that iFixit's teardown, found to be a lightly re-skinned HTC U24 Pro, despite originally being marketed as made in the USA.

1:58:45Linus Sebastian:Trump Mobile executives had called the$499 tag introductory and previously suggested that the final price could approach$1 ,000, and the site has now scrubbed the promotional pricing language. The timing lines up with memory shortage price hikes hitting the whole industry, but$749 puts the T1 up against phones like the iPhone 17e and Samsung Galaxy's S26fe which both start at$699 with far newer hardware. Yep. Well it was kind of dumb before and now it's just really dumb.

1:59:21Luke Lafreniere:Our discussion question is, has branding alone ever let a tech product charge 50 % more for identical hardware and get away with it? Can you think of a situation where a light reskin like this yeah we we turned it gold we took that phone we made it gold uh got away with a 50 upcharge branding alone yeah because like with like the apple series or whatever series zero whatever they called the first one that like they retconned what the what the name was so the gen the first generation apple watch um there was the gold one that was like way more for being turned gold, but it had actual gold on it.

2:00:02Luke Lafreniere:Not much. But that's not like rebadging someone else's hardware.

2:00:06Linus Sebastian:That's skinning your own hardware. I'm trying to think rebadging someone else's hardware.

2:00:11Luke Lafreniere:On the subject of turning things gold, Voodoo PC used to have a gold-plated version of their luxury gaming PCs. Oh, are there no pictures? No pictures. okay well we're gonna have to try to find uh we're gonna have to try and find a picture of this thing um but that too did have actual craftsmanship and and was gold plated um

2:00:43Luke Lafreniere:i i wanted one so bad like not like in the in the i will save up for this and own it someday sense but just in the that's whoa cool wow how cool is that silent x fans man got the custom water cooling and gold plated case um lxfn724 says that looks like ass lmao okay the aesthetics were different the style was different back then okay this was 2008 brother it was a different time relax i mean it's a fair point it's a fair point yeah but relax it was a different time okay don't want everything to be boring again i do not have gold braces on my teeth i have white braces on my teeth that are extremely they sit extremely proud off the tooth and they're made of like like slightly textured ceramic so it's like having a bunch of tiny serrated blades all over the insides of my lips so i use this stuff called enduro wax to go over top of it to keep it from shredding up the insides of my lips and it stains with curry and I love butter chicken.

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2:01:58Luke Lafreniere:No, I don't go to their other locations after I tried the one on Scott Road and it sucked. They don't, they're the most unconventional chain restaurant that I've ever encountered.

2:02:09Linus Sebastian:It's potentially the worst name in history.

2:02:11Luke Lafreniere:Aesthetic style makes no sense. They just put like artificial turf on the wall and the Surrey location on King George always has animated Mr. Bean on the TV for reasons that I couldn't possibly begin to understand. They use like Christmas lights in their decor. They have all these pictures of the founder and like the gaudiest of outfits pinned up like everywhere. And more weird than any of that, they don't use the same recipes at their different locations. so I got like my go-to which is get that vegetable korma get that butter chicken get some rice get some garlic naan I got it at a different location I was like this tastes like but why did I ever come here um so I only go to the I only go to the 100th and King George

2:02:55Linus Sebastian:we there was there was one night Emma and I were working on stuff didn't have time to make dinner well you know you can always make time but didn't feel like a cooking dinner night yeah so I I was like, you know what? Linus has talked about this. You said G place. You went to the wrong one.

2:03:11Linus Sebastian:We didn't go to that one. Just utterly flavorless.

2:03:18Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, I don't get it. So if Mr. G ever wants to like chat, I'd be happy to talk with him about like what chain restaurant means.

2:03:28Linus Sebastian:Why does your name sound like a password? Why is there a 76 at the end? I mean, I can guess. But that's what people do with passwords. Why do you do that with your restaurant name?

2:03:39Luke Lafreniere:I wouldn't even get into that. I wouldn't even get into that. I just, I need, I need, look, McDonald's did not become a multi-bazillion dollar empire by making good food. They became a multi-bazillion dollar empire by making consistent food.

2:03:57Linus Sebastian:Yeah, Yaxter in full point chat said flavorless Indian. Question, question, question. So wrong. I know. Yeah. I know. I was like offended.

2:04:08Luke Lafreniere:You should have been offended because... It was probably... It was probably because you got profiled. It was probably the worst Indian food I've ever had. Yeah. So you have to specifically go to that location.

2:04:20Linus Sebastian:Yeah. I like remembered afterwards. I think we had like kind of finished up and I was just kind of like grumbling about it. And then I was like, oh no, I think he actually like mentioned that he had tried another one and it sucked. and he had to go to like that specific one. But then I remember sitting there being like, but it's a change. Like what? No. No, brother. Yeah, definitely no.

2:04:42Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. I was going to say something else, but I lost it.

2:04:50Luke Lafreniere:Dearest soul asks, what happened to you stat G1 through 75?

2:04:58Luke Lafreniere:Oh, man. Same with all the fallouts. Yeah. don't forget all the a b c d e and f you stats like a long line of you stats

2:05:12Luke Lafreniere:all as inconsistent as the last oh a fun a fun one uh yvonne had a thought she was like oh yeah one of one of the best things about um going for indian food is that you take the leftover curry as takeout and then you just like take it home and you put more chicken in it and then you just like yeah sure make it again and uh you never done that i was like what if we just i'm actually surprised the restaurants i go to put enough chicken in it oh or they don't give you enough sauce yeah this has never never been a problem um if they don't give me enough chicken i just don't go back okay that's fair uh anyway at at you start g ivan was like oh what if we just like skipped skipped all of that and we just got like curry sauce at home like can we just ask them to just like whip us up a batch of curry sauce and on the way out i asked last time i was there and they were like oh yeah sure we do it all the time so they'll just like make you like a thing of curry sauce and then you just like go home and like cook chicken i didn't even ever i've never considered doing that that's an awesome idea this is the kind of my god this is the kind of thing that the whole women so that is my wife and my sister-in-law it's their last name grow up i know you don't have to say it that way i it's something that it's the way that they think that nobody else would think to think my wife would ask hey can you just like make the sauce and i'll cook chicken in it at home other people don't think of that okay my sister-in-law would order a vegetable sub at subway i know this one and she would bring a tin of tuna to work and she would put the tuna on herself.

2:06:52Luke Lafreniere:Tuna sub. Like, it's just... I wouldn't think of that. I wouldn't think... I would think to bring a lunch. I would think to go out for lunch. I wouldn't think to bring part of my go out for lunch. I just wouldn't think of that. I wouldn't think of it.

2:07:11Linus Sebastian:I've definitely done the extra sauce thing before. Yeah. You can make that go pretty far, actually.

2:07:17Luke Lafreniere:Oh, yeah. Oh, it's great. uh morori ask is that actually cheaper it definitely was back then the vegetable sub was really cheap because like subway pricing has completely changed though dude subway made so much sense when it was cheap five dollar foot long or like man i i don't remember what the deal was i remembered for years but i would somehow walk out of the one across from the maple ridge leisure center with like three subs for some obscenely small amount of money on the weekend days that i worked and it was like everything i needed to eat that day in spite of the fact that

2:07:51Linus Sebastian:i was like in the pool all day it was great even like the the five dollar foot long is like a decent not huge but decent meal for 250 like actually pretty darn good and then just yeah

2:08:05Luke Lafreniere:not anymore dude every time i go into subway i'm just like yeah if i was gonna spend this kind of money i'd like get a real meal like i can't do this with that said real meal has gotten to the point where uh we were shooting an amd ultimate tech upgrade yesterday and i went for dinner like in vancouver proper for the first time in a while and uh them increased rents really do be reflected in the menu pricing like we went for japanese food and it was five heads i want to say and we were like way clear of a hundred dollars and nobody even like got anything fancy to drink or whatever so we're we're like at like 30 bucks ahead now which is insane for just like freaking

2:08:47Linus Sebastian:teriyaki don boxes for for yeah okay like people didn't even get fancy rolls i was gonna say if you guys were getting rolls not even necessarily that fancy but if you guys were getting rolls i'm surprised it wasn't no i'm talking this was lunch dude this was lunch boxes yeah yeah insane there's a reason why i like the you know my favorite indian place locally is closed which makes me sad but we've still got we've still got pho which is good shout out

2:09:14Luke Lafreniere:langley vietnamese cuisine brother

2:09:17Linus Sebastian:just always full there is always a million people there it's almost like no parking well you just park

2:09:26Luke Lafreniere:across the street look real casual while you walk I got ticketed for that once really they saw me park at the mall and walk across the street and they came and ticketed me like right away whoa yeah i think it was at cuckoo center i want to say okay yeah i thought you were talking about like that one no like no no no no yeah they just like they were like no

2:09:52Linus Sebastian:i'm just like oh my god next time you're just gonna walk in the mall and then leave right away

2:09:56Luke Lafreniere:i get it but outside of like boxing day like maybe back to school rush so really your parking lot's empty yeah like this is just make work this is this is you could just be you could just be cool you know like we had we had our um at the last whale land uh one of our neighbors who who occupies one of the units in our building just like popped in to like check out the whale land and i was like chatting with them i was like hey the management like let you guys know that you get free gym passes and stuff right and he was like yeah yeah that's super chill and like we had like a big delivery one day or like we had a big thing or something we needed a bunch of space in the parking lot and your guys were super chill about it and like we're you're using our spots right now and that's chill and i was like wow great double high five this is cooperation actually the fact that not getting along actually does seem to make things reasonable effort yeah i feel like there are people out there who seem to actually make a point of not getting along with others and it drives me nuts to what end to what it's just this guy this guy um was like being like an absolute like knob end in traffic a little while ago i was on my i was on my motorbike so first things first he uh he like does a wheelie through an intersection or whatever and i was like okay whatever he's in front of me i don't really care and then i um i got on motorcycles the standard way to pull up to a red light is you pull up each other beside each other and then the one on the left goes and then the one on the right goes and you travel kind of offset like that and so i went to like i went to pull up next to him and he like swerves as i'm as i'm like about to i'm like okay and then as we're taking off he like break checks me super hard and then like takes off i'm like bud you're on a hog i'm on a street bike this is not about yeah this is not about how this is not about who's faster like that question is already answered like thing where they have to

2:12:08Linus Sebastian:go first and you have to like give them space and stuff specifically people with harleys it's like

2:12:12Luke Lafreniere:the lamest thing i've ever heard of but i i didn't care i wasn't gonna go first i was gonna pull up next to him and nod high yeah you know like motorcycle riders generally do i don't know if you've noticed this being a thing if you're not a rider you might not have noticed it but uh but bikers will tend to like just kind of put an arm down or put an arm up or just like you know give a little you know gesture to each other as they're passing on the road because it's like we have to have each other's backs a little bit because the cagers can just plow us over at a moment's notice and then we die and then what their insurance premium goes up right like uh um and i was just i was so taken aback because in general riders are really friendly towards each other and the guy was just such a tool i just couldn't believe it and like he was and after just like ripping off of that starting line he didn't even like go fast it's not in a hurry to go anywhere Oh, yeah.

2:13:04Linus Sebastian:He just wants you to be back. What a weirdo. Yeah. Yeah, they get like super emotional if you pass them too. It really hits them in the feels. Why? He's going faster than me. And then they probably go home and tell their partners about it. I think South Park had a word for this. It's a really big part of their day. Yeah, okay. Really serious. Probably the biggest thing that happened to them that day, really.

2:13:33Luke Lafreniere:I imagine having so little going on.

2:13:38Linus Sebastian:What else we got here? Oh, this is pretty brutal. A huge list of Steam achievements surfaced for games that should be private, but happened to be pulled and accessible from the Steam API, which means maybe more than you might think. On September 9th, achievement lists leaked onto tracking sites like SteamDB and Exophase, which I've never heard of, but for unreleased games. According to Exophase owner Mike Bendel, the leaks did not occur because of any hack or data breach, but rather another, just another Valve screw up. According to Bendel, the achievements should have been private, but were exposed through Steam's API and got pulled onto the tracking sites automatically.

2:14:19Linus Sebastian:It's a pretty significant list with details about certain games like Persona 6, Kingdom Hearts 4, Fable, Gears of War, E-Day, etc. Leaking some pretty bad spoilers due to achievement names and their descriptions. so naturally we're not going to go into them uh but mostly honestly letting you know so that you can try to avoid it yourself um because like we said they got pulled onto these sites automatically and people have been talking about this so um yeah i just try to dodge it i'm not even gonna there's a there's a list of like the games whose achievements were linked and all this other kind of stuff i'm specifically going to avoid going into those right now um because i think the the primary thing to do here is honestly not engage so that you can keep yourself appropriately unspoiled.

2:15:08Linus Sebastian:Speaking of video games, Nintendo Direct September 2026. I alluded to this earlier in the show, but we've got The Legend of Zelda 40th 40th anniversary celebration. I'm sure that's a typo. It's four.

2:15:22Luke Lafreniere:It's the four year anniversary.

2:15:26Linus Sebastian:Continue. That hurts my soul. Pretty bad. The Nintendo Direct occurred this week, and gamers will be eating pretty good. Which is good, because the Switch 2 has felt a little dry for a while now. So, Metroid Ravenous, a sequel to Metroid Dread, that is releasing on January 28th for the Switch 2. Everyone's favorite hoovering pink blob, Kirby, is returning in a new 3D game called Kirby and the World Beyond. A Persona 6 reveal with no release window, but a Persona 4 revival launching on the Switch 2 on May 20th of next year was another announcement. The Witcher 3 Remastered confirmed to launch on September 29th with a new paid expansion, Song of the Past, arriving next year, which is crazy.

2:16:12Linus Sebastian:I heard Jake told me that there was a panel for this at PAX, but I was too doing other things to be able to attend it. Three release dates. When did Witcher 3 come out? So Witcher 3 came out in 2015. So this game is getting a paid expansion 11 years, maybe 12 years later, because it might come out. Does it say when it's coming out? Yeah, arriving next year. So 12 years later, it's getting a paid expansion. And honestly, that's really cool, in my opinion. Final Fantasy VII, the final part of the remake trilogy, launching on April 8th, as well as a ton of other announcements. Nintendo also ran a dedicated 30-minute Zelda 40th anniversary presentation separately.

2:16:58Linus Sebastian:The big announcement was showcasing the Ocarina of Time remake releasing on November 5th of this current year, 2026. Fans very quickly roasted the art style, claiming it looks like a game made in Unreal Engine, claiming that the faces look wet and the characters look like porcelain dolls. That being said, the environment has been getting almost universal praise for being beautiful. the game is available for$60 which is slightly cheaper than some other versions oh this doesn't go into it the whole art style of the characters ended up being like very deliberate I remember online a bunch of people this is not in the notes but a bunch of people were talking about how they didn't like the art style of the characters I saw some comments saying like hey was this made with AI or whatever else so the Ocarina of Time you make style characters let's see I think it's like specifically inspired yeah it's inspired by Shigeru Miyamoto's love of puppetry and like this specifically Japanese type of puppetry and they're made to look like those

2:18:12Luke Lafreniere:puppets oh are we talking about the look of 40th anniversary or no the 4th anniversary

2:18:18Linus Sebastian:right yes fourth anniversary yeah so like some people didn't like it and i think it looks cool again they so i saw comments saying it looked bad i saw comments saying it looked like unreal engine stuff i saw comments saying it looked ai inspired but ultimately the the inspiration for it was these these certain types of puppets and uh yeah i mean you can you can not like the i'm not finding like examples of pictures of the puppets right now okay but i did when i was looking this up on my own and it made a lot more sense once i saw the puppets and if you're not into it that's

2:18:53Luke Lafreniere:up to you but my goodness um yeah i don't know i i thought it was pretty i thought it looked pretty cool yeah maybe i'll finally play ocarina of time maybe i'll finally beat it oh really i played it

2:19:09Linus Sebastian:as a kid but never beat it that was true for a ton of games for me when i was a kid dude i it

2:19:13Luke Lafreniere:didn't even like okay part of it is that beating games used to be hard for some of them anyway i

2:19:20Linus Sebastian:don't know that ocarina of time is particularly hard is it i don't know oh okay it didn't seem

2:19:25Luke Lafreniere:super hard the the parts that i played yeah there was no story mode though so whatever the difficulty of the game was like you had to you had to beat it yeah um and then the other thing is like we were kids and we sucked like i was uh i was uh i wanted to play for whatever reason i had raymond on my mind and i was like oh yeah i should play raymond and i was like watching a video on youtube about it apparently there are like 16 distinct releases of that game um like several right when it came out and they have differences for different platforms depending on how powerful they were and such and whether or not they had a disk drive or whatever and then there are like remasters and re-releases and whatever it's like available for like a ton of platforms and this video the point of it was like looking at all the differences and in the intro of it it was talking about how like unforgivably difficult it was and how probably like so many other people i ended up with it because it had this super cute charming art style that um concealed a depth of gameplay and a difficulty like unforgiving difficulty that um you wouldn't assume on that basis so it probably had cute box art i was given it as a gift and i thought back to it i was like oh no i like played that game so much i must have been no it showed the final boss fight in the and i was like i have no recollection i've never seen that before um so i don't think i ever beat it so i want to i want

2:20:47Linus Sebastian:to beat raymond i mean there was there was a lot of games for me where i would find like a part of the game that i really liked and then you transition to some other part i wouldn't necessarily like it as much and i would just quit do anything else i don't know whatever or in the case of like black flag i just cared so little about the actually assassin's creed part and i would have had to keep playing that part to beat the game so i was just like nope i'm a pirate i don't care and just like chose my own ending which was beating the the four legendary ships in the corner of the map and when i did that i was like nice i beat the pirate game i actually don't care

2:21:27Luke Lafreniere:about the rest of it so i don't know i um i went out of my way to not do mainline quests in oblivion because if i did them then i would be done playing so i just like did other stuff and there was at some point it like caused some kind of weird breakage because there was an assumption that i would have like progressed to a certain point uh like not a not like a broken broken thing but just like kind of bethesda broken i forget the exact details because it was 20 years ago or whatever. It was a similar experience for me where what I really wanted to do was just like explore wilderness and like explore random dungeons and fight things and, you know, infiltrate orders and that sort of thing.

2:22:11Ooh, this is cool.

2:22:13Luke Lafreniere:There's an Intel-backed auto-overclocking tool called HyperTune that optimizes your individual system rather than just using test profiles. This is something that I flagged for the doc this week because it's been promised forever. Literally, do you remember when Asus motherboards in like the 2000s had AI tuning? And AI tuning just meant it turns up the voltage and the frequency a bit. Okay, this is not AI, but it sounds like what that was sort of intended to be. HyperTune launched publicly this week after an eight-month beta with over 60 ,000 users. it's built on intel's extreme tuning utility sdk with direct engineering support from intel and the pitch here is easy one click overclocking where the software scans your specific hardware drivers and windows configuration then tunes the cpu gpu and memory for your individual machine instead of just applying a canned profile intel senior principal designer dan regland endorsed it saying performance tuning had been locked behind expertise for too long and record-holding overclocker.

2:23:18Luke Lafreniere:Peter Plasier, better known as ScatterBencher, worked on the methodology. Every change is reversible, and the tool refuses any optimizations a system can't safely support. Hypertune claims FPS improvements of up to 60 % in internal testing, but hasn't publicly shown the system or workload that produced that headline number, and I suspect most of them would be a lot lower. In fact, the benchmarks they published are considerably lower. On a Core Ultra 9 285K with an RTX 5090, Homeworld 3 improved by 18.9%, with Tomb Raider gaining 28.2. With that said, I mean... Way to go, Tomb Raider. Good old Tomb Raider, back being a benchmark again.

2:23:54Luke Lafreniere:On an older Core i7-14700K and RTX 3080 system, Rainbow Six Siege improved to 9.8%, with Marvel Rivals gaining 4.3. These tests were performed with HyperTune's Game Hub disabled, so the gains came from system-level tuning rather than changing any graphics settings. Game Hub can push frame rates considerably higher by automatically adjusting in-game settings, although that's something that GeForce Experience and AMD software or the player themselves can already do. There is no way to buy HyperTune outright. Oh, really?

2:24:22Linus Sebastian:Yeah, I was waiting for you to get to that part.

2:24:24Luke Lafreniere:Oh, why?

2:24:28Linus Sebastian:It's like not cheap either. It's actually, I wouldn't even just say not cheap. It's really expensive. Like very expensive. The website currently lists a service at$9.99 a month or$69.99 a year. So$10 a month or$70 a year. Launch coverage originally quoted a$60 a year introductory price, with some reports saying it would eventually rise to roughly$120. An$80 expert tuning service is also available, where a technician remotely connects to your machine and tunes it manually.

2:25:05Luke Lafreniere:I'm not talking about this anymore. I'm not interested.

2:25:12Linus Sebastian:Yikes!

2:25:13Luke Lafreniere:uh someone in chat was saying um ai features in the early 2000s i've got a something much newer that also has ai overclocking this motherboard

2:25:29Luke Lafreniere:is from yeah i want to say 2004 something like that looks like a 2004 ddr1 brother AI front and center I believe this one had some kind of AI overclocking nonsense on it Also Is this WinDVD? What am I looking at here? I'm not sure what that is Man, packaging, oh man Wow, what a motherboard Look at that Dang Look at that VRM, this was a high end VRM design

2:26:04Linus Sebastian:Look at that IDE port, bro

2:26:06Luke Lafreniere:Oh dude, one IDE port? I think you mean two IDE ports Let's go primary and secondary

2:26:12Linus Sebastian:My brain was like what are those plugs next to the

2:26:15Luke Lafreniere:Don't forget the floppy port here You got your IDE, you got your floppy Yeah dog Is that the Northbridge? It's like the same size as the CPU Yeah it is, there's your Southbridge Remember when a chip set was called such Because it was a set Of chips They're like as big as the CPUs It's crazy

2:26:34Linus Sebastian:I remember Northbridge fans I loved those Yeah, dog. Yeah, dog. Yeah. Yeah, I got 17 minutes total before I need to be walking out the door, by the way.

2:26:46Luke Lafreniere:Okay. How about Let's Talk Australia forcing social media platforms to allow users to opt out of algorithms? Yeah, super cool. This is like the most based thing that I saw all week. Australia's government published a proposed law on Tuesday called the Digital Duty of Care, and it is now collecting feedback before it goes to Parliament. The centerpiece is an initiative that's literally named My Feed, My Way. Platforms would have to send a notification to every user over 16, offering a choice for their default feed. Either personalized algorithmic recommendations or only the friends and creators they actually follow.

2:27:26Luke Lafreniere:Prime Minister Anthony Albanese called it sensible, pragmatic, practical reform. and non-compliance could cost platforms up to 109.2 million australian dollars or about 79 million u.s the wider law makes that like yearly or something i hope so yeah i don't know though yeah the wider law makes platforms responsible for shielding kids from content promoting things like eating disorders misogyny and dangerous stunts and it also covers online games and ai chatbots which would need to rein in addictive design features the law builds on australia's world first ban on under 16s holding social media accounts which is why the feed choice only applies to users 16 and up opposition leader angus taylor said the coalition hasn't seen the proposal yet and warned against efforts to censor social media sounds like a loser doesn't sound like censoring social media yeah it sounds like angus taylor is one of those like opposition politicians that hates any idea that the ruling party puts in place even if it was like something that they've been calling for for years we have some folks kind of like that you know if this took over everywhere

2:28:35Linus Sebastian:i bet you this would be the one thing that could affect titles and thumbnails i'd use facebook again because i'd use facebook you your titles and thumbnails would be much more important

2:28:47Luke Lafreniere:to be searchable yeah and to be clear exactly like what they are rather than just because

2:28:54Linus Sebastian:right now enticing a click you're fighting for you're fighting for attention on one mixed page of everything. But if you were searching for something, then you would need to come up in search results.

2:29:04Luke Lafreniere:If I knew that I was going to be fed to all the tech users, then I could have a techie title. If I'm going to be next to Mr. Beast, then I have to have a super enticing title.

2:29:13Linus Sebastian:This is actually like, you know, I'm sure there's going to be some way to make it not happen, but this is basically the one thing that has shown up on my radar that could actually affect clickbait.

2:29:23Luke Lafreniere:The EU already requires platforms to offer at least one feed that doesn't rely on profiling under the Digital Services Act, and several platforms have following-only feeds buried in their apps today. Australia's draft goes further by forcing platforms to surface the choice to every user directly, and given the under-16 ban that became a blueprint for other countries, outlets like Gizmodo note that this one could also make its way overseas in the same way. All right, I think we do have one... Oh, Lordy, do we still have a couple more topics oh crap oh that's why it was moving around uh framework cut ram prices this is cool investment disclosure again wow i really picked the right day to wear this shirt uh framework dropped prices on some lp cam 2 options for the framework laptop 13 pro the reduced pricing is currently available on a first-come first-served basis through batch 10 and this comes after they doubled prices back in july um framework basically says they were able to source a limited quantity of 32 and 64 gig lp cam 2 modules at a lower price and they're passing the savings on to customers pretty pretty based in my totally invested in the company opinion they're also retroactively reducing prices for orders that have already shipped at the higher prices and to a subset of pending pre-orders cool sweet i said at the time that framework would have only raised the prices if they had no choice and they've really they've really followed through on my guess because they didn't have to anymore so they undid it i've never heard of a company undoing like a price increase like that like retroactively here's a partial refund yeah when their costs are down they keep prices

2:31:04Linus Sebastian:as they are to make more profit and when their costs go up they raise prices and it just creeps constantly uh continuing the plow ltd labs ups article like power supplies ups's have some cool tech if you're into them, but they're quite complex if you're not. This article breaks down some of the interesting numbers and fields to consider when buying a UPS and shows a number of waveforms measured with our oscilloscope. Lucas had fun with this one. There's also a note here that says, an interesting aspect of UPS is AVR, or automatic voltage regulation, which will treat or transform the input voltage to bring it closer to the nominal 120 VRMs.

2:31:44Linus Sebastian:We test it. I've only read that in text before. We tested a power supply at a sweep of input voltages to show the transition and change in output waveform. It's a long article but you can use the table of contents on the left to find stuff which it might be because your screen is narrow. Sorry about that. It went up there. But if you're kind of viewing it normally. There it goes. Hooray. So you can use that to kind of jump around or use it at the top if you're looking at a narrow screen. Did I see 920? No. I can't have spotted it.

2:32:22Luke Lafreniere:Time for After Dark. Mr. Daniel Besser. Sure. Hit us with some... Oh, wait, we didn't do Floatplane announcements. Oh, crap. This week on Floatplane is all about the nerds. DMS, known as DMS Online, released a very over-explained video on the topic of why iPods sound different. Yep. oh my goodness that looks complicated is it like the first thing you learn what no i just it's his joke oh my goodness but what about some other niche hobbies 3d printing clothes i'm gonna go home or tufting or cool pc cases uh we had an lmg show and talked about there what is what are these notes You mean show and tell?

2:33:17Luke Lafreniere:I don't I don't understand Talking about Naz's camera And fusion frenzy What am I Fusion frenzy? What am I clicking on? Yeah What is this? Woo I'm logged in Why is this an air table link? I don't know What is Sammy doing? I don't understand this man Why is it an air table link? It goes to the The shoot Okay well here's a show and tell Why would it go

2:33:44Linus Sebastian:Why would you link that?

2:33:46Luke Lafreniere:I don't know. That's going to get shot next week, apparently. I don't know. Okay, anyway. That's tech relute for... My notes also say, but Linus, what if you're all like, I hate floatplane exclusives? Well, you'd be missing out on some gold. But here, we'll also do an early release right now for the people. Do the thing, tech tips. Say my notes. Oh, what? No way. Oh, crap. Hold on. This video, this video is coming out Oh, wow The steam-cooled steam machine is up for early access on Flowplane Now Nice, there's another one to do as well Oh man, that's sick, what else is coming out? This is the same one Graphic content Linus' core childhood memory slash that one clip that was cut out what is this i don't know yeah i don't remember what this is uh okay well it is released now graphic content what did we talk about that was graphic content i wasn't i didn't even i know i know i'm not i'm talking to myself i'm just looking you in the eye

2:35:08Luke Lafreniere:like it's like the normal thing that people do

2:35:14Luke Lafreniere:oh man time for after dark dan you want to hit us yeah oh yeah sure uh we will start with this one for luke yeah because sweet i think this is it's gone never mind um hi lld thoughts on remakes taking priority over original like how resident evil code veronica is coming out before the original comes to PC or the original The Last of Us not being available on PC. Yeah, what's up with the original The Last of Us not being on PC and, like, Last of Us Part II totally is? Like, is that... Has anyone ever explained that? Is that, like, a thing that everyone's kind of, you know, been over and now they're just like, yeah, Linus, that's, like, yesterday's annoying news.

2:35:59Luke Lafreniere:Like, what's up with that? I have no idea. No idea whatsoever. Oh, Part 1 is on PC, says Fake Draft. Okay, well, why did my notes say that? just emulate it says niki nuki okay so hold on is it is it available or is it not they remade it for pc so the original is not the remake is okay okay okay okay that's where i got my oh it's because the first was built for ps3 which was a little weird to port okay all right okay okay okay all right hey chat i gotta i gotta give you guys credit we resolved this completely in like eight chats. Pretty quick. That, you know what? Good job. Good job. Good job, Floatplane Chat.

2:36:46Luke Lafreniere:Okay, you guys are falling apart a little bit here. Fake Giraffe says, the remake is faithful. Honest Lirid says, I've heard the port kind of sucks.

2:36:55Linus Sebastian:There's also Biggie, Biggig something, 595, says bubble fart. that's also pretty important oh that

2:37:08Luke Lafreniere:okay

2:37:09Linus Sebastian:was that your story? yeah okay

2:37:14Luke Lafreniere:so farts can make a bubble yeah on your butt and I know this for a fact

2:37:29Linus Sebastian:more on that on flow plane? yeah I guess so Okay, all right. Yeah. We got to keep going. I got six minutes. Yeah, that's it. That's the end of the show.

2:37:37Luke Lafreniere:Wait, you didn't curate any other comms? Well, middle of the day, not a lot of... What do you mean there weren't a lot of... Don't lie to the people. No, no, no, no, not a lot of questions. And we also did like three or four, and then it was overlap. So that's all I got.

2:37:53Linus Sebastian:Yeah, we did do more than two when we did them kind of in the middle.

2:37:56Luke Lafreniere:Did we? Yeah, we did like three.

2:37:57Linus Sebastian:Yeah.

2:37:58Luke Lafreniere:Okay, we normally do a lot more than that. Okay. Normally get a lot more questions. oh okay well um when you do drops sometimes a lot of them are just like thank right that makes sense

2:38:13Luke Lafreniere:stanton f had a question and you just sent him to the forum too vague poor stanton

2:38:22Luke Lafreniere:i think he asked what the debug step was to fix his girls uh girlfriend's pc oh yeah that's not really i can't i can't i can't do that i'm plugging plug it back in sorry dave i'm so sorry yeah okay well i guess that's it i feel sort of like uh it's weird isn't it yeah i feel it's like so early in the day i'm gonna go like write a video script now yeah i have to go help my co-workers with stuff they need it screws me up when we do

2:38:51Linus Sebastian:one show in the middle of the day it is very strange my whole internal clock

2:38:54Luke Lafreniere:goes like do you feel tired afterwards yeah yeah me too like i'm ready to go home and have a snack and go to bed yeah same here yeah like i can't i can't go do stuff maybe i will well it's night time now you could yeah maybe i'll also maybe i will because i have no weekend this weekend i have all like obligations

2:39:17i won't i'm gonna go write a video of it all right we'll see you guys again next week

2:39:22Luke Lafreniere:same bad time wait not bad bad you know what same same good time same good channel it's a good time

2:39:28Linus Sebastian:and a good channel it probably won't be the same time yeah but same good channel though yeah bye

2:39:35Luke Lafreniere:all right okay so these guys just didn't leave any message at all they just like bot stuff yeah okay how about that

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