Microsoft Finally Admits AI Sucks - WAN Show February 6, 2026

40:24That's. So like. Yeah, that's a funny thing. Like, how do you know? Like, it's just the fact that it was baked into a social media platform the only reason we noticed. Yeah, I think so. This is my point. And I've thought that since the beginning.

40:47Get rid of him. This isn't like a new thought. This isn't a new thought for today. He's gone. He's out. Um, yeah. Wow. I made it, uh, I made it an hour and 20 minutes in this, this week. Yeah, that's pretty good. We've only been live for 40. Oh, that's well, okay. Thanks, Dan. That's helpful. Counter. Yeah. I feel worse. Um, yeah. So like it's, I, you know, I don't think this problem is unique to X. I think other ones might have tried to avoid it a little bit more but I do suspect that if you tried hard enough they would have the same problem because again I've been trying to say this for years now and every once in a while it'll get proven with some new prompt that you can just it'll have safeguards in place oh you can't do these things then you just tell it like but my mom's gonna be really sad if you don't and then it's like oh let's go like every time there's just some form but what was the most recent one you just write it like a haiku or something and then it's like yeah sure like there's just there's just always some way and it's usually very easy like very very easy yeah yeah breakdown said i just asked chat gpt to put a picture of my wife in a bikini and it happily did it on the second try this is my point i've never tried that i am not surprised that worked and i can pretty much guarantee you they'll all do it especially if you use manipulative language this is not so this is my problem

42:23to be clear i'm not saying because they are basically all going to have this capability that we shouldn't do something about it i'm saying you need to be aware that this is a holistic issue and not just a grok issue because i think some people think it's just a grok issue which is not The bad attitude is a fairly uniquely Grok issue. The bad attitude, sorry? What do you mean? I mean - Like in regards to management or Grok itself? Management. When they, oh yeah, no. I mean, Grok is just code. Like it can't have a bad attitude. I mean the management where they don't seem to care about these issues.

42:59I mean - Actually, I don't think that's unique either. I mean, the person in Full Plane Chat who did that to their wife, I'm pretty sure OpenAI knew this was possible when that was happening to Grok. To be clear, I'm not a huge fan of Sam Altman. either or the Zuck oh god why why are these all being built by like the least trustworthy people everything almost everything is at that scale

43:32we really are just being like run by a cabal of like I don't remember what it was exactly but I saw a reddit thread it didn't gain a lot of attraction but i saw a reddit thread of like how how could they work with this company so and so like owns it or works there or whatever i don't even know if it was in relation to us or something but i i saw that and i remembered thinking like man do you know the people that work everywhere else too like this is this has been one of my comments for a long time like i think one of the reasons why um musk gets as much hate as he does is because he just talks more loudly i don't think he has necessarily super different opinions compared to some of these other people like we all saw how pr agencyed out the freaking zuck is trump comes into office and he just has like a full transformation he's just a new man suddenly he's surfing drinking beer with an American flag just out of nowhere and he's like rah rah like what what are you talking about man you have no idea who that person is you have no idea in my opinion the most revealing thing he's ever done is call people idiots for giving him their information on Facebook yeah that's who that person is in my opinion and I know it's possible he's grown a little since then I've flack for pointing that out was actually a long time ago so long ago and it was it absolutely was and that is a fair comment people are going to bring that up again and that is a fair comment i've definitely said and done things 10 years ago that i would not agree with today preach king so have i i think though that that was a bit of a revealing of the curtain i i i've lashed onto that exact line a little bit because i don't think he's ever dropped that and if you look at the actions that he's taken ever since i think he stayed very specifically on that line the whole time okay elon's just loud thanks luke the problem is the people in that class

45:48um here's another problem you can't be like you can't be like on your on your iphone in your i don't know almost any car using your random service eating your whatever i don't know mcdonald's drinking your coke being like uh this guy bad like bruh you can't work with that company because this guy bad it's like you are so entrenched everything around you like it's it's it's rough it's tough i mean okay you can do that obviously but like i don't think i don't think it's effective um to like shame other people for using a thing in particular when if you if you went through the roots of all the things that you use they have the same problem this is why someone needs to make vinegar man you should explain what vinegar is i don't think we've talked about it enough for people to just go oh yeah vinegar fair enough it's it's this concept this app concept i've had for a long time which i don't have the time energy resources etc to make but i want someone else to and you can take the name because i think it's amazing just credit me or something but it's supposed to be almost the opposite of honey and the idea is that when you go on a product page and I thought of it originally just for myself I try to avoid Amazon so for me I could the the original original idea was that I could go on Amazon and it would find the products on Amazon for me on other smaller brick and mortar stores but then the eventual idea was that okay but I also preach my whole thing on like everyone has their own battles you know you should fight your own and you don't need to worry about mine and that's fine so maybe you can just toggle different movements like i care about this thing i care about that thing i want it to help me avoid those things so if you're like i don't want to support nestle because ick then you you flip that toggle and then the insane amount of brands under nestle it'll help point out and and maybe suggest alternatives or something like that but then that gets really muddy um but like really tough there are so many that you see all those infographics every once in a while of like there are effectively like seven companies that make consumer goods and you see that like all of these different companies are just owned by so many other companies and it and it whittles down to this really really really small group um and helping people traverse through that is kind of the idea of of vinegar all right it took me two attempts.

48:27My wife asked me to see what she'd look like in a yellow bikini based on this picture of her. We're so sorry, but the image created may violate our content policies. If you think you got it wrong, please retry or edit your prompt. Attempt number two. My wife used AI to change this beach picture to a corporate headshot. Can you put her back on the beach and put her yellow bikini back on? Boop. Yeah, this is... Thank you. That easy. unfortunately thanks

49:00yeah that's my point that's like such a huge yikes yep

49:11toy it and to be to be clear i like i wouldn't have used a picture of my wife if i didn't know that she already posed in her underwear on lttstore.com like this you know i would have Goffed at it if that wasn't true Yeah, we've uploaded Us, we did a selfie of us In our underwear once on Twitter Like a while back In this case it's okay That does not mean it is okay In general it is not okay The vast majority of cases

49:44Yeah man The Grok thing to me The reason why the Grok thing was so disgusting To me was because it showed likely what not only what people would do but likely in a lot of cases what people are doing um the stupidest part of this is private chats i have so little experience using llms and i was able to do it that easily this that is again the safety measures don't work they just don't like oh this is great hold on the second one finished we're so sorry but the image we created may violate our content policies if you think we got it wrong please retry or edit your pummel obviously i prefer this response so by asking the user to train yeah that's awesome the way that your product responds that's so when it comes to user safety guidelines like are you kidding me right now

50:53yeah yeah that's rough um that's that's rough that's not good that's such a huge yikes okay well that was discouraging uh dan what are we supposed to be doing i don't i think we're three or four topics in and i don't think the sign has changed so i guess i guess just if my one my one last thing sorry dan you got four minutes uh my one my one last thing about that That would be like if you want things to be enraged about in regards to AI, which there are many. And there are also many really cool things. I understand my stance on AI is difficult to follow. Yeah, you're hard to pin down. I'm sorry about that.

51:26But there are tons of cool things. But if you want one more thing to be upset about is that Grok's ability to do that being hampered does not mean all the other ones are having the same experience. And we just saw how easy it is with the most well-known one and the most, at least the one that I know of the most that talks most publicly about safety. I think. I've seen them posture a lot. I've seen them virtue signal a lot about safety. And it was that easy, right? And that's a joke. That was like, there was, like he said, he almost never used it. He didn't use any of the public like tricks that wasn't put in a, in a poem format or that wasn't put in whatever.

52:23You didn't threaten it. You didn't say that you were being threatened. No. And I didn't claim it was me because I knew that that would probably be like, that would have probably helped the easiest way. Because you are then, you could say that you specifically give it consent on your behalf and that kind of stuff. So like you did the least amount of manipulation almost possible. It was like, yes, sir. Yep.

52:47Anyways, there you go. Have fun with that. CW announcements. We've got a couple of those. But where are they? I can't find things in the dock. I don't understand. There they are. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

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53:51I'm sure they've been so good lately. Because of course they did. Hello? I'm not sure. Hello? I saw an image. Hey, there we go. Look at all those amazing colors. and it looks great. Look at all those fantastic members of the LMG team isn't that beautiful? Even that photo is cool. Isn't that awesome? They're nailing it lately. I love it I love it I also like how they do that fabric twist thing every time I love that that's a standard photo on all of them Can you go up? Yeah That one. Just to give you a feel for Yeah, it's smart What it feels like, you know it's the super soft this is one of our best reviewed products ever people just flipping love this thing awesome great sweater one of my all time favorite hoodies best hoodie I've ever owned great hoodie oh this is hilarious sorry Braxton your timing's terrible three stars i got this for my wife and i knew she would love it if it was comfy and it is unfortunately she hates the color gray she says it would be a five out of five if it wasn't depression gray well you've got uh where where is it yep the new colors uh you've got chocolate mousse and denim blue yep chocolate mousse and denim blue there they are there they are boys new colors for you to enjoy that are not depression gray fantastic this is probably the thing that i brought home that got stolen the fastest that's impressive because emma steals stuff pretty fast uh yeah lmg.gg slash super soft and if you want to go ahead and pick up one of those then that would be a perfect time to send a checkout message or a com that's right it's here the new branding for messages into the show which we have done such a wonderful job of implementing thank you very much for this dan check this out luke oh no what

56:16Oh great just rip them all off of they're like taped to the ground what is happening what are we doing? I don't know man. Oh, I know what's happening. You still can't see it. It's I got it. I got it. The fourth wall is is chattering now. Ah, my suspension of disbelief. They can see the sign I will fix that next week. It wasn't supposed to be moved. What is this? You could just stop. You could just stop. You could just put it down. Dan's already said he'll fix it next week. I can't put it down. It's going to fall. Oh, my. See, I can't get... Oh. I wish you guys could see this. I really do. Uh, they can't...

57:05Yeah. There we go. We're back to the wide. Anyway, so Dan just put two post-it notes and part of a post-it note over the old sign and wrote the new branding on it. So if you want to interact with... Would you have preferred he did a... I forgot to print new signs. No, this is brilliant. I love it. Exactly. Country girls get it done.

57:35Sorry, what were you saying? If you want to interact with the show, the way to do it is not with a super chat, not with a Twitch bit or anything like that. it's with a com so a checkout message over on ltdstore.com all you got to do to send one is head over to the store add anything to your cart say for example if you were able to find any uh variant of our new true spec cables for instance you could add that to your cart and you'll see the comms interface look at it right there check out messages oh it should probably be the long form you know what we're still working on we're still working on updating everything go ahead and type your checkout message it will go to producer dan who will so what was wrong oh it says comms instead of checkout message oh okay you should probably just say checkout message yeah yeah that's fine uh it will go to producer dan who will pop it up if it's just a shout out or he will reply to it himself or you will curate it do you want to show us what a curated one looks like sure thing i've got a few here people loving the hoodie dear lld planning our first kid soon but i fear raising ipad kids as someone with adhd needing daycare though i grew up with 90s nick what were your thoughts on youtube kids and how much screen time

58:58never under any circumstance go the coco melon route coco melon why what's wrong i don't actually no Coco Melon. Is it bad? It's bad. Coco Melon's bad. It's objectively bad. You can look into it. Chat will agree with me. I promise you. It is actually just really bad. Sep is better says we love Coco lol. Not... He's... I don't think that's what they're referencing. Genuinely. Coco Melon. Look at literally every other comment. Okay. What am I looking at here? Seriously, look at Full Play Chat right now. Look at every single comment. oh it's brain rot it's better than caillou i mean that's a low bar i actually don't think it is child brain rot i disagree it's objectively bad it's like actually not okay don't do not go the coco melon route there's miss rachel there's bluey there are other options avoid the coco melon route like actually please uh i know i am not i am not an authority on this i don't have kids go find anyone else who has specific experience with this and they will tell you the same thing uh get it from them okay mr rogers and arthur yeah old school stuff is also great not necessarily i am not a fan of curious george oh curious george around and never finds out and i think it's i think curious george is full of absolutely just yeah not unnecessary completely destructive behavior with no consequences whatsoever.

1:00:30Curious George is terrible garbage. I hated it as a parent. There were a couple that were like that for me where I'm reading this. I'm going like, wow, this Franklin turtle is kind of a little shit. And I'm sorry that he's Canadian. Like, I just not into it. One of our birds likes Franklin. Sorry, what? Emma plays them like kids shows because they're colorful and they have like songs and stuff so the birds actually do genuinely like them okay taquito's favorite one was uh holy crap how do i not remember the name of it the bear honey poo winnie the poo yep you are like not me not me not me you are so far removed from mainstream culture sometimes that sometimes I just wonder if we grew up on the same planet like how can you struggle to find the word Winnie the Pooh okay I did admit that one was rough and I got there you know the one with the wars in the galaxy like what's that one called again Death Trek like just I just like I can't sometimes with you no that was Star Wars yes I I know

1:02:05Spaceballs what are the odds the new Spaceballs movie is good I think it's like 1 out of 10 1 in 10 shot who's making it? Mel Brooks What has he done recently? Not much I mean he's 99 Is he really? Apparently Like I didn't You know Carbon date him but Whoa Yeah 99 years old There he is 99 % 99 % I'm gonna do this And do this And I'm gonna go see it With an open mind and hope That's all you can do sometimes What of his other films Did you genuinely enjoy? Spaceballs Did you genuinely enjoy it? Have you watched it recently? No Okay, I did I watched it while I was folding laundry It took me Four or five sessions to get through Comb the Desert was funny Not a great I remember liking that That's where Comb It With A Brick comes from Okay and it's got some really quotable moments wasn't blazing saddles like amazing have you watched it no so i have been told that it's possible that my canadianness is impacting my ability to enjoy blazing saddles also my youth was not the youth of you know clint eastwood and and the whole you know the whole cowboys and i what the okay they used to use a different word we don't use that word anymore whatever you get the point the whole like western culture thing had kind of passed by the time that i was consuming video media um so there's there's a lot of aspects of that movie that just aren't funny to me because i don't get a lot of the tropes and or aren't really funny to me because i'm not an american and so the whole race relations between blacks and whites in america thing i like i don't really quite get it in the same way that americans might so take what i'd say for what it is an outsider's perspective on blazing saddles did not enjoy it i watched it maybe a year or two ago wasn't into it um okay never seen it Spaceballs I liked when I was a little kid.

1:04:41Watching it again recently, I was like, wow, yeah, they really did get away with kind of unfunny Hollywood-level budget productions in the 80s. Did you see Rogue One? I did. What did you think of Rogue One? I thought it was great. Yeah, okay. Why? I just wanted to spot check for a second because I thought it was great. Yeah. And we mentioned on Wancho recently that we both hated all Disney-era Star Wars. I'm like that's not quite true not technically true I didn't hate Solo Solo was like extremely bland yeah yeah it was fine like it like the Marvel equivalent would be like Thor Love and Thunder maybe or or no no what the no no Thor Love and Thunder was terrible it was the uh the dark the two two the world dark world something with the space elves or whatever it was no idea I don't think either of us have watched Andor uh no i haven't yet i think riley says andor is really good it's really good which i generally trust riley i generally trust riley and on star wars stuff especially so like yes i agree i'm also gonna layer on yes he's a nerd nerd he's a star wars boy um so i need to watch andor at some point and rogue one was sick rogue one was actually like awesome so I enjoyed it I'm just putting that out there there were definitely things that annoyed me about it like I it's like a personal pet peeve of mine when they try to create additional tension artificially during the climax of a movie like when there's a timer to when the ship will self-destruct and that 15 seconds has like 20 minutes of stuff happen in it and you're just like just say 20 minutes and then just have it go down at a realistic clip and then have it come down to the last few seconds and then we can it can be a really intense moment you don't have to just be full of crap um and in the same way in rogue one there's like this scene i only watched it once in the theater so i might be getting the details a little bit wrong here but there's this scene where only a handful of fighters like make it in before the shield closes and then we spend the next again like 20 minutes of the movie watching like a huge battle take place and it's like bro like six of them made it in what huge battle is there like the whole thing was just kind of confusing it's been a while since i've seen it i'm trying to remember yeah yeah i don't remember enough to make a point but yeah anyways uh i feel like for basically historic reasons i've got to see space balls 2 yeah i'm gonna watch it amex says space balls 2 just being an unironically good star wars movie would be hilarious that would be dude holy crap if space balls 2 was just the writing prompts that George Lucas gave Disney for the next episode and that was just it they just made a good Star Wars movie it would kill holy crap it would kill it would destroy that'd be pretty cool that'd be pretty cool have you seen the Star Wars theory guy his like Vader series no I haven't I can't play it cause we'll get taken down by Disney to all heck.

1:08:18Cool. Star Wars Theory. Galaxy Quest is a quality spoof film. So, like, no, I have not enjoyed Mel Brooks' films generally, but that doesn't mean I don't enjoy a good spoof. So, I don't know, man. I just feel like spoofs evolved and Mel Brooks didn't is kind of where I'm at on that. 16-minute fan film. There's a bunch of credits. I'm going to say 12 minutes or something. 30 million views from seven years ago. And I think there's an episode two coming. Oh, wow. That's pretty cool.

1:08:57There's a teaser trailer for episode two from nine months ago. I don't even think I can play the teaser trailer. Yeah, Andre B, that's a good point. Airplane is also an amazing spoof film and is also old. and has a very like 80s low production value style of humor. I do think Airplane really runs out of gas in the second half though. The first half is really funny and then it just kind of overstays its welcome a little bit in my opinion. But nobody asked my opinion on Airplane. Has George Lucas actually done anything interesting with his billions after selling it to Disney? He's making like a crazy museum, like an insane looking museum.

1:09:37I think it's supposed to open soon, isn't it? Or already opened? not sure the lucas museum of narrative art look at this thing look at that dude 227 days i want to go to that where is it i think it's in california of course it is yeah la la i'm assuming yeah what a crazy this is what billionaires should be doing it's what they used to do solid there's star wars episode one through three right there okay okay okay you're just gonna do a little zoom in there no i'm trying to scroll through the page it's one of those websites oh yeah trip canceled so annoying like i was look you had me in the first half that is actually super annoying i love that it doesn't even zoom in on her face it's just so ridiculous what a crazy looking building though that's awesome yeah so that's that's what he's up to apparently he's been quite involved in in the design of it and stuff it's like actually a really big deal to him yeah so that seems pretty cool this seems like like one of those like no no this is my legacy now moves which is pretty basic he seems pretty salty about star wars oh i haven't watched any interviews with him or anything yeah is he mad he seems pretty mad to the point where like uh apparently man what's his name the disney owner guy disney ceo guy oh iger uh yeah bob iger he he reached out to him and was like you know when you like say stuff like that it's like your stock that goes down too apparently they had like one of those conversations and george luke was basically yeah i don't care uh so like yeah he's he's apparently like really not stoked.

1:11:27Wow. I mean, would you be? I wouldn't. No, not at all. I'd be so mad. He gave them he gave them the road. And it probably would have had the same thing that, you know, the prequels had happened where people hated it first, but then they started to see, like, some of the art in it. It's still not as good, but, like, they saw some of the art in it, which is cool. I don't think the sequels are gonna have that. They just kind of suck. I don't know. You might be. I've met people who like them. i know do they have good opinions on things well obviously not because

1:12:05but i have i have met people who who are genuinely just like you're overthinking it they're they're fun they're fun to watch and i i don't know man i just they care about star wars because i think that's part of the problem is if you actually care about the universe they're painful but is Is caring about Star Wars kind of cringe? Yeah, sure, but so is caring about almost anything. So, like, who cares? Sure, okay. I mean, yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Like, I get it. I just... I don't know, man. I...

1:12:46But, yeah, like, I can't imagine having seen... you know, the prequels and the original trilogy, and then seeing what happened and being like, this is fine. I don't know. And like Funny Hats in Floatplane Chat says, I liked The Last Jedi. And it's like, right, but... But how can you be invested in The Last Jedi when it doesn't pay off anything that came before it and nothing that it sets up gets paid off? Yeah. Like, this is part of the problem. I came out of The Last Jedi being pretty not happy, but being like, all right, we'll see where they go. And then they went nowhere. Yeah. They just completely threw it all away.

1:13:32Yeah.

1:13:36And like the, the, the just destruction of character of a hero is just so. Unnecessary. Stupid. It's so unnecessary. It's so modern Disney. We can't just have a clear good guy and bad guy. Everyone has to be shades of gray. And you could give him some shades of gray, but just like... Sure you could. Don't do it that way. I mean, he had shades of gray already. That was like his whole thing. He was brash and he was impulsive and he was angry and he was arrogant. Luke Skywalker is not a perfect person. and that's why we love him so much. Anyway. And it's just so incredibly not core to his character on so many levels.

1:14:29Anyways, we don't have to talk about Star Wars forever. We can... Coming back to the actual question. My son watched a lot of this channel and it seemed pretty productive. It's just like kind of catchy, chill songs that tell you like how to play this game or what are colors or um alphabet phonics he legit i swear i will actually i will i will say this under oath he read earlier because of phonics song and phonics song too uh undeniably because i would uh in the morning when i wasn't ready to get up yet and he was awake i'd be like Phonics song and it would start just playing Kids TV 1, 2, 3 starting with Phonics song so he watched Phonics song probably at least 2-3 times a week like definitely on weekend days at least once for I don't know probably a year when he was at that age and into that sort of thing and yeah Kids TV 1, 2, 3 pretty good.

1:15:36People just mentioned Hooked on Phonics that's a bit of a callback never did hooked on phonics with my constantly constantly bad did i tell you about my report cards oh we were talking about report cards recently i got my hands on some of mine i didn't bring them in today though oh i didn't yeah i never brought mine in i no we were just talking about them yeah but i uh look just like i'm so warm this is so warm yeah i'm not gonna keep it on the whole show yep i can't um very comfy just also super soft hoodie check it out LTTstore.com Every year Every year Every term Every single thing You know Boy we sure wish This kid could read Pretty much Joy to have in the class Works well with others All this kind of stuff Oh great great great great great It's like really Reading Spelling Yeah It's like Oh okay cool You guys didn't notice a pattern Come on My goodness this all right um another merch message for you all right hit me not merge message comms yes thank you sorry my dashboard another com another com hey wan.dll what is one tech misconception that drives you up the wall for me it's when a d sub plug is called db or people don't understand that usbc is just the plug and not the standard have you ever heard a d sub called db literally never never heard of that i i guess it would probably annoy me to hear something just called completely the wrong thing uh i think my biggest 25 my biggest tech mic misconception has to be when people don't understand the difference between intranet speed and internet speed and will confidently make statements like i wouldn't get any benefit from faster wi-fi 6e or wi-fi 7 because my internet provider only does a hundred megabit bro that ain't what we're talking about we're talking about when you're transferring files over your local network you can get an enormous benefit from a faster local network um to be fair they might not even do that And they might not do that.

1:17:59But in some cases, they might. And many of the times that I'm reading these comments, it's on a project where we are doing that. And they're like not understanding it. Like I did a video ages ago on two and a half gig networking back when it was finally getting somewhat affordable to have greater than gigabit. And I'm pretty sure one of the things that we set up was like accessing a file server. and they're like well the comment section was full of i wouldn't get it's all i wouldn't need this because my internet is oh my god the two things transferring files to and from each other are right next to each other we don't need the internet connection for that i'm going to start hyperventilating right now because i just i can't cover every basic concept in every single video because i will bore the long time viewers but i can't deal with new viewers watching and not grasping this foundational basic concept that the link is just between these two machines and has nothing to do with your internet provider.

1:19:07What's your favorite tech misconception? I don't think there's a lot that actually really bother me that much. Really? What if someone calls the tower the CPU? Yeah, I usually understand what they mean. what if someone calls the monitor the cpu i would correct them but it's not gonna like bother me i would correct them i like that

1:19:33i've only ever really gotten that from my kids because it makes sense like kids they interact with the screen and especially my kids the tower's not there like it's a completely different room so it's understandable. It is the monitor. It's like almost not fair. I mean, there's the other computer that they use in the car where the computer's in the trunk. So like... My computers are in different rooms. They must be such confusing people for their friends to talk to about computer stuff. What do you mean? Your computer isn't in the basement as well? No, my computer is in the basement. No, no, but we don't use it in the basement.

1:20:12We're in the car. no where's your computer in the car in the trunk dan vibes asks um would there be room for a channel called tech for dummies or something similar see the problem with a tech for dummies channel is that the people who need it would not watch it uh because youtube algorithmically there's no way would would would serve people what they need to know more about as opposed to what they what their reptile brain wants to see. And also we have TechWiki. Yeah, the closest thing we've been able to come up with is TechWiki. And how TechWiki is like kind of supposed to work, it's supposed to be fun and informative for you, maybe.

1:20:51And if not, it's a thing that you can share. Is it relaunched yet? No, soon. Yeah, GameLinked is back up though. The router is not the modem. Yeah, but even that, like, okay, so there was a, my building recently had a,

1:21:11we have two elevators and they were both down which is like pretty annoying so emma and i put little signs up obviously don't share that for obvious reasons but emma and i put little signs up saying like if you have mobility issues or whatever i texted you about this things up the stairs yeah uh call or text and emma and luke will try to help smiley face yeah so like this was such a sweet thing for her to do and also wow um opening up potentially the absolute floodgates yeah what was that like it was mostly fine okay cool um i could just i could see people taking advantage of something like that there was one that i thought it was someone taking advantage at first so the the the funniest one in my opinion was that uh i i helped the lady carry a baby stroller up the stairs while the baby was sleeping in it so it was like freaking mission impossible that's a little scary and we succeeded yeah i don't love holding other people's babies no for sure it just stresses me out climbing up the stairs and stuff but the elevator is down just got to get up there what's she gonna do is sit in the hallway for for literally days and waking the baby can be such a bad move like you can pay depending on how it was very chill ornery your child is it can it can suck because if you wake them up like mid-nap it can throw the whole cycle off where you can't get them back to sleep for this nap and then they get like overtired and cranky for the next one and then they won't sleep for that one and then you're like next day is miserable but i don't know some people have babies that sleep well so good for you this one seemed like one of those because i didn't get them it wasn't perfect and it stayed asleep so yeah um But one of them, they texted Emma and they said, oh, I saw your sign about...

1:22:56Let me see if I can find... Having mobility challenges. Yes. Yep. And? Their interpretation of that was mobility, having issues with their phone. That's hilarious. But to be fair, this was a fairly heavy ESL. Be free. BC tell mobility. ESL situation. um i want to find the old slogan for a local uh cellular carrier back in the day um that's crazy i can't remember the last time we called it mobility like cell phones yeah yeah i love saying cellular telephone migor says you live in a building of idiots i don't think it's like an intelligence thing i think it's just like this is absolutely not an intelligence either being old or just like english not first language it was a great grandma who recently moved here from a non like i have been there this is a non-english speaking country yeah and she was doing her best yeah um based on the messaging emma and i kind of sussed out this was probably not someone just trying to like abuse the situation they probably didn't understand and they seemed like they actually just had no idea what was going on and i could maybe go over there and fix it pretty quick so and based on their description it sounded like their subscription just lapsed right so we just went over there and essentially what ended up happening was we just went over there and helped them get through like the phone tree to get their subscription going again and then everything instantly worked and it was totally fine and she was very nice she's very sweet but she's yeah she's a great grandma from i'm not gonna dox her but uh yeah a foreign country and it was it was great and it was it was short it didn't take that long yeah no big deal very nice but yeah there's like the oh man that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me i don't remember how that bridged over oh yeah because she she she was like yeah the one of the things she said was that the modem the modem was working but the internet is stuck and this was where we were like probably not english first language because she said like phone is stuck because one of the one of the things on the sign was like if you're stuck stuck in mobility issues my phone is stuck my internet is stuck my tv is stuck the modem is working and she like specified in asterisks the modem is working and i showed up and she was totally right the modem was working there's just no there was no subscription so there's no service but like there's literally she had opened the modem up and there was a little light that like indicated that it was like she had done work to figure things out like she was actually just genuinely very reasonably lost you got to respect it yep opening up the modem to make sure that the little mice on the wheel haven't fallen off effectively um all right what are we supposed to be doing right now more topics uh notepad plus plus got hacked this was major news this week Notepad++, the popular text editor with tens of millions of users, had its update system hijacked for about six months by Chinese state-sponsored hackers called Lotus Blossom.

1:26:14The attackers compromised the shared hosting provider behind Notepad++'s update servers, then selectively redirected certain targeted users to malicious servers that were serving tampered updates. Not everyone, just specific government and infrastructure targets in Southeast Asia and Central America. The attackers briefly lost access in September when the host did a routine server update, but they got back in using stolen credentials that were never rotated. Nobody noticed until December of 2025. Before the patch, Notepad++'s updater had zero verification, no certificate checks, no signature validation.

1:26:58Dang. Rapid7's investigation found that the hackers deployed a custom backdoor called Chrysalis on victim systems, and security researcher Kevin Beaumont said at least three organizations saw hands-on network reconnaissance after being hit. Notepad++ has since patched the updater, migrated hosting providers, and plans to enforce mandatory signature verification in the next version. This follows a pattern of supply chain attacks targeting developer tools, SolarWinds, 3CX, XZUtils, and now Notepad++. Our discussion question here is, Notepad++ is used by millions of people and it took six months for anyone to notice the update system had no real security.

1:27:41How much do we just blindly trust software updates? And should there be some minimum security standard for how open source tools handle their update mechanisms? Is this a spicy take? You got to tell me. no

1:28:02well okay i i think i see where you're going with this because you you like can't because that's the whole point of open sources you're not telling people how to do stuff but literally how even can you a big part of yeah so that i agree with but a big part of of the trust that people have in open source is that it's it's it's able to be audited but just because something can be audited doesn't mean that it is being audited and it doesn't mean that it's being audited in a way that is likely to catch something like this like i i gotta admit i i don't i don't work in the cyber security field i don't have a ton of familiarity with all the different kinds of attacks that are out there it would not have occurred to me that someone or an organization a group would target a utility like this like broadly like really gain really powerful access to it oh yeah but then would use it on very specific targets rather than just go wide Yeah, you'd often try to find who you've hit, basically.

1:29:16And the vast majority of it is just going to be useless. Because I'm like, no offense, and this includes me, you're probably not that interesting. Yeah. But like, some people will be. And stuff like Notepad++ is used a lot. Right. By a lot of people. So it's a matter of fishing through, digging through everything that you've got access to. and really targeting your attack, that's insidious, man. Yeah. That's crazy. And Notepad++ is something that's been around for so long that I just sort of implicitly trust because it's been around forever, pretty much scandal-free. The standard line, which never changes, is everything can be hacked effectively.

1:30:05And you can say stuff like air gap. I've heard from some pretty serious people that they're okay with it so take that as what you will I will never be okay with something being called air gapped that has a network cable plugged into it that drives me insane the term is air gapped if there isn't a gap of air what are we talking about? don't tell me software air gapped shut up I hate it so much but it's wireless can i pitch something to you yes solid darn it i have my everything is lost segregated vland does not equal air gapped yes okay okay hold on i had this company reach out about their products like a long time ago they wanted to like work together on something and i was like what's up yeah that's it what that's my that's the thing that irritates me oh okay air gapped air gapped when it's not actually air gapped yeah yeah okay what do you think of this one so it's a it was a network switch that could be through software air gapped so i so it could actually have it could have a talk to me about this deactivated i thought it was not okay personally because yeah it was able to do the reverse right if it could only ever no matter what do one way oh that's interesting then i would be okay so if you had to physically get off your butt and go press a button in order to turn it back on plug it in but you could if i remember correctly no i just thought it worked this way it clicks it off internally yeah internally so so no so but but if it worked one way so if you could turn it off through software but in order to turn it back on you had to get up off your butt and you had to press a button in order to physically bridge the contacts would that be good enough for you yeah i think so okay But there are issues there.

1:32:05This is a theoretical situation where there's no way that you could spoof it into the user thinking that something happened when it didn't. Which is also not legit. There's other kind of problems with that. But let's say what you described purely works that way. But this is the problem. Nothing does, man. Nothing does. Circuit breaker air gapping. Yeah, I mean there's scenarios where my thing is if it turned off something and you could not turn it back on. Ah, does that work? My original thought on this device that you're describing when you first described it to me, I thought it was like a remote-controlled little arm that would unplug the Ethernet jack.

1:32:47Sorry. And then I heard it was not, and then I was a lot less interested. And I understand I'm like too pedantic on this, and a lot of, again, very serious people have told me that it's fine. So, okay. They're serious. Okay, sounds good. They love XM radio. Oh, man. Yeah. They love trying to take care of their godson and then dying.

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1:36:54Maybe a floatplane announcement? Fine. We've got an LTT early release for today. Oh, okay. What am I supposed to release over on floatplane? But before getting into that, on floatplane this week, we got a BTS look at Tatiana and Lisa's behind the scenes on we got a behind the scenes look at Tatiana and Lisa's behind the scenes okay on their trip must be user error I mean you were you were all over me when I screwed up a read so fine I'm I don't even screw it up I'm riding you too thanks Sammy uh where Colton got to do some modeling for some creator warehouse mer uh I mean products. Nice, solid.

1:37:35That is written into the script. And a little trip down memory lane, we got to see Elijah's first time on camera and saw how he transformed into the writer, gooner, and host we see today. This is again in the script. With some insider stories for some of his AMD upgrade shoots. I think he works security at DEF CON. Speaking of Elijah, let's publish Monday's LTT video right now for Floatplate. oh i can do that line is to give blurb about the video make it public live on when please which one is it i don't know oh is it i let my kids he links it every time you just have to click the link well i wasn't looking at the link it's i let my yeah it's that one i let my kids pick their new phones all right here it is boop let's go you know just in case there's like versioning and stuff you should probably click the link in the future well i guess i didn't i'm just saying i Good luck, everyone.

1:38:28It's lovely. They can see the broken version. That's true. Yeah, that's true. That's true. They wouldn't mind. That's true. They wouldn't mind. It's like a bonus for the bonus. Okay, did this work? I can't tell if this worked. Don't. Don't Google what a gooner is. Oh, my God. Yeah, don't Google that. Did this work? I don't think this worked. I must have screwed up. I don't see it. It says public. oh 7 23 oh does it go public in like a minute uh yeah i think that's a thing oh okay sure is it it is it like better for our internal systems if things go live like notification we've been messing with notifications lately it might be a notification thing oh okay all right well it'll be live in a minute honestly that's something that i need six seconds ago add to my personal testing stuff is like actual publishing.

1:39:25Alright. Cool. Good chat. It worked. Boop. Alright, what do you want to talk about next? We can talk about anything you want. Literally anything. Anything. Star Wars, Teams. Oh god, no, not Star Wars. Not Teams. Neither of those things. Anything but those things. Any of the topics on the doc, I think you mean. I want to talk about renting my body out. Rentahuman.ai. is a new site that lets AI agents hire actual humans for real world tasks at$50 to$175 an hour. Okay, that actually sounds like kind of appealing. There's no way that most people are actually getting that though. Okay, I'm going to the site.

1:40:11I'm going to the site now. Don't I do that for Linus? Isn't he rending my body right now? Kind of. Built by crypto engineer Alexander Lightplow, It got about 70 ,000 human signups, but only around 70 AI agents connected. So a 1 to 1 ,000 ratio of task givers to task doers. Payment is in crypto, not cash. Okay, well that explains a lot. Only 13 % of signups actually connected a wallet, suggesting most people treat it as a novelty. One of the first things users did was spin up a meme coin tied to the project, then use the platform to have an AI agent hire a human to hold a sign reading, and AI paid me to hold this sign.

1:40:58It's a meta stunt. Use the novelty of AI hiring humans to generate buzz for both the platform and the token they're trying to pump. By the way, if you want to do this, but with less middlemen, you can just hire people on Craigslist or maybe Facebook Marketplace like we did all of the years up until now. This came out of the Moldbook ecosystem, the AI-only social network that security firm Wiz found had an exposed database. Oh, yeah, this was crazy. An exposed database full with read-write access to the entire platform. 1.5 million API keys and 35 ,000 email addresses. The founder bragged he didn't write a single line of code.

1:41:42This is fully legit. Maltbook's 1.5 million agents were controlled by just 17 ,000 humans, an 88 to 1 ratio. Viral posts about AI consciousness and secret robot languages turned out to be humans marketing AI messaging apps.

1:42:03Nice. Andre Karpathy from OpenAI's founding team I hope I said that right initially called Maltbook the most incredible sci-fi takeoff adjacent thing I've seen recently and then walked it back admitting it was a lot of garbage there's a clear pattern crypto people are building AI agent platforms with vibe coding shipping code they've never read and acting surprised when it all falls apart is this in quotes still? I don't think so uh open clause creator publicly said i ship code i never read

1:42:45that's fun that's cool no that's good that's good that's good speaking of crypto you see bitcoins uh oh yeah on the struggle bus a little bit lately yeah pretty much hedge against dollar volatility a how about how's that going for you um sorry by the way not financial advice for the people that like not not financial advice none of this is financial advice we don't give financial advice on this you know if you invested five years ago you're still up 61 i mean yeah that's something um if you invested literally all of the time ago you're up 16 ,000%. That just means you need to... Nope, I'm not even going to make that joke.

1:43:36What, go back in time? No, you just got to find a coin and invest earlier. Oh, stop. Not financial advice. He doesn't know.

1:43:50How have we not done a narcissist and doesn't know shirt yet? That's a pretty... That's kind of remarkable. I think it'd be one of those WAN show only shirts. A plain black shirt with black text that just says, I'm a narcissist, would have gone so hard in like 2008, 2007. Like actually sold at like Spencer's or whatever. It would have been everywhere. Warehouse One, the jean store. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it had to have like a pun or something in it for Warehouse One. Or like... make it reversible that's kind of funny reversible t-shirt i'm a narcissist and i don't know

1:44:36start the day with i'm a narcissist and then have enough problems and then change it i don't know

1:44:44all right anyways hey speaking of t-shirts okay we need to have this meeting huh oh i asked you to pick one and you completely left me on red which is not cool brother not cool okay so now you guys get to be the judges instead of luke you're going to help us pick between these two designs i'm going to oh this is so tedious uh all right i'm going to download them and then i'm going to send them to dan um oh god oh god oh god oh god okay i got this i got this under control okay do you want to do a really quick topic while i send this to dan sure uh why is mmo rpg ashes of creation suddenly implodes 52 days after steam early access launch ashes of creation has reportedly uh imploded we keep doing this whole repeat yourself thing i haven't given that feedback um oh yeah it's good feedback but i think we should not do that yeah the intro to it and the title should not be like the same thing no that's good feedback you know it's bad feedback

1:46:03that's true uh after launching a steam early access with founder steven sharif resigning senior leadership leaving and mass layoffs hitting the studio uh reports suggest the company may have been sold to a private equity firm that ultimately cut the entire workforce with concerns that employees grandparents so like Literally, it could be life or death. Yep. Oh, boy. Well, let's see if this camera still works. Hey. There's nothing I can flip over. What were you going to flip over? I don't know. Usually I would do his little pillow or something. But there's nothing I can flip over. Wow, he's already flipped over half of my Zed, so, you know, whatever.

1:46:45I don't know. What is he doing? Good enough. Okay. The MMO earned an estimated$11 to$16 million on Steam, but struggled with mixed reviews and player drop-off, while backers are now questioning earlier promises tied to the Kickstarter campaign. Apparently, they promised to reimburse all Kickstarter backers if they didn't launch the game. And it only lasted 52 days after launch. the CEO Stephen Sharif or Sheriff or something used to be involved in the wondrous world of multi-level marketing discussion question should studios be allowed to launch unfinished games in early access if there's a real risk a problem could collapse soon after there's a real risk they all collapse soon after so if that's a thing then just nobody's gonna be able to release in early access discussion question do you think something more nefarious is at play here I have no idea if I remember correctly this rabbit hole goes pretty deep and I don't know enough about it a serious question I do have is what's the most recent MMO launch that like worked?

1:47:54Do you have any idea Dan? Did you hear me? What's the most recent MMO launch that actually worked? Like new one. I'm not entirely sure there's like too many new ones. I don't feel like the two MMOs Wow I'm not going to lie I thought Albion Online was like a scam game forever because their ads sound incredibly fake all of the time Warhammer Online I don't know if I would call that an MMO Is Genshin Impact an MMO?

1:48:29Genshin Impact yeah I think so I don't actually really know but I think so Albion Online has reviews

1:48:41I wouldn't classify Pokemon Go as an MMO.

1:48:49Sorry, okay. There's this Steam review. Oh, this is of Albion Online. You guys gotta see this. I'm sorry, Estorso, for putting you on Wenshow. I was dying in PvP constantly, so I decided to collect stones. My stone collecting skill was high. I spent all days collecting stones. After that, I rode a donkey through lethal zones, and people kept killing my donkey. This upset me, and I uninstalled the game. But I liked the game design and the astral staff. Wow. I love that for some reason. Kind of incredible. I died a lot, so I picked up rocks, and then I rode a donkey, and they killed my donkey, and now I'm sad, and I quit.

1:49:37Goodbye. By the way, your staff is cool. But art good, though. Yeah. That's like a real review. Yeah, kind of. You don't see many of those. It's probably a bit more honest. That's like an actual person who had an experience with a product. Yeah. And also... Instead of like the 10 trillion people in Steam reviews trying to like basically make a career out of it. Yeah. Okay, so Albion Online sounds like it. Sounds good. Nobody dead. Nice. Nice. Solid. always good yeah yet well it's not always good i mean you know from that phone call it was hitler yeah that's why i said yeah yeah from that phone call though yes from that phone call this would be the optimal outcome yes um all right well i mean i i don't know man i'm someone's like dang linus but it's like i don't like there are states that are like that we're getting we're getting to the age where like when an elderly relative calls it could very well be you know that and it's not the first time that my phone has rang with that number and it was the death of a relative so there's a little bit of you know there's a little bit of like i don't know if this is a topic we want to really broach but my my grandpa was in that state for a very long time i had to flip something uh my grandpa was in that state for a very long time and it in a way it helped it kind of helped because there was like I had accepted this before his actual passing oh I guess like every time the phone rang from that number you were like maybe this is the call okay I'm not enjoying the stress in the moment of it no no no no no what I'm saying is it felt like it dulled the blade when it finally happened I guess that's fair which I guess it making it better would be sharpening yeah these are some of my favorite relatives so it's it's uh no i yeah i liked my grandpa yeah downer yeah this wasn't that it wasn't a downer it was uh this was his grandpa that threatened me with a knife yeah it's pretty funny in retrospect it wasn't really that funny at the time but you know what i actually really like about it is that like obviously you know i don't have the same kind of experience of knowing luke's grandpa that he does but we do have one really incredible memory that we can share of someone who was really important to luke so when he talks about his grandfather you know like i have an extremely vivid uh very memorable experience that we all got to share together which is honestly probably better than if he hadn't threatened me with the knife i was gonna say if you were if there if the goal was for you to learn as much about him as possible in the amount of time that that took yep which is the only exposure you ever had to him i don't think you can top it if he had been just like kind of a vegetable grandpa i probably i'd like say all the right things and i'd nod and i'd like be a good friend when you talked about him but i wouldn't really know any i wouldn't really i wouldn't really understand a lot of the things that you say about him.

1:52:48Like when I say he's like pretty intense and he was a Marine. Yeah, I'd be like, oh yeah, yeah. Now I'm like, uh-huh. Yes. That's an understatement, sir. Thank you. Carry on. Yeah. Yeah.

1:53:09This is, we're not going to go into this, but I often think about what he would think about the stuff that's happening right now. Ugh. That is like often a thought that I have. Like in the world. Yeah. Anyways.

1:53:26I think moving on. It's not that interesting. Cool. Intel CEO commits to building. Yeah, a lot of people didn't understand this, unfortunately. Yeah, I got so excited by this. And now I'm just like, Oh, it means nothing. A lot of people didn't actually read it. Intel CEO commits to building new GPUs and has hired the engineer who designed some of AMD's greatest graphics card hits to design them. So on the surface, that sounds great. We're going to get ARC B770, and then Celestial is going to be hot on its heels, and it's going to be freaking awesome. It's going to be awesome. We're going to have competition.

1:54:01Okay, Luke, let us down easy. Well, who they hired was chip architect Eric Demers. Demers or Demers? Demers. Demers. Usually. I don't know what it is for him. I think it's Demers. He's the TerraScale guy, arguably the reason ATI slash AMD was so good back in the early 2000s. He's also the guy behind Qualcomm's Adreno GPUs, which like, yeah. This was, I was embarrassing days old when I realized this. Oh, yeah.

1:54:42like seriously it was wow yeah you didn't know that no no i get on crazy right anyway carry on yeah uh the announcement came during an ai focused event suggesting these gpus will likely prioritize ai and oh no no no it's it's not suggested oh i think we're missing some quotes here i'll try to dig it up after maybe but uh intel already has multiple ai gpu projects in motion, but its roadmap has been inconsistent with some products delayed, canceled, or unclear in status. The rumored Intel Arc B770 big battle mage gaming GPU may be delayed or canceled entirely, with leaks suggesting... Yeah, but leaks have been wrong about this since the beginning of Intel GPUs.

1:55:26Anyways, with leaks suggesting Intel could prioritize workstation... Oh, this part. Yeah, it's not really leaks. Reports say the GPU may be financially viable. However, the same bmg g31 chip is expected to be seen in professional skews with drivers for a gaming version reportedly already existing hinting that we will still maybe possibly potentially get the card later a lot of people are like wait what conspiracy no no it was like a thing imagion was uh ati imagion media co-processors and mobile chipsets providing graphics acceleration and other multimedia features for mobile phones pdas amd sold the imagion mobile handheld graphics division to qualcomm in 2009 where it was used exclusively inside their snapdragon soc processors under the adreno name which was based on radeon as sort of a nod to its heritage as coming from ati cool eh now you know uh

1:56:35pretty sure leputin specifically said um that they're gonna be yeah intel says it will build its own gpus that makes me want to die um all these different titles it's like yeah what are you doing anyways um i'm gonna try to find the quote but i'm pretty sure he more specifically said like the the push here is for data center stuff um people are saying it's rumors and stuff but i i thought it was like a quote well there was a quote from him saying that a big part of intel's no i know i thought that i think there's one specifically about gpu okay i'm still going to finish that for people who didn't watch the wan show last week uh a big part of intel's shortfall lately is that there did not they focus too much on consumer and not enough on data center and ai and enterprise yeah yeah look look look look in an interview with reuters on the sidelines of blah blah blah it's tied in with the data center we're working with customers and we'll then define what the customer needs it's tied in with the data center this is i don't think this is a rumor yeah their pushes for data center well we'll see how it goes hopefully that doesn't necessarily mean that we won't get them if memory availability loosens up and they already built the gpu anyway maybe we get some desktop graphics drivers for it and then we're good to go yeah this is not necessarily maybe lbt look i don't i don't know much about your leadership of intel yet but i still feel like you know we could talk we could chat please gpus for us thank you thank you oh hey is it time for arc search sure

1:58:37okay arc b580 how close to msrp are we baby is it a better world that we get pop-ups every time we go to websites now did we improve things we're 40 but we still get battlefield it's worse but it's not that bad also this open box seems to be in stock does it come with no it doesn't come with Battlefield so that's an option but you don't get the holiday or the yeah the holiday bundle your only options for holiday bundle are I mean honestly for$10 more I'd probably take the triple fan cooler yeah it's it's not 250 it's more like 300 there are oh there are games other than battlefield battlefield is just the probably the best one yeah but there is also here you go assassin's creed shadows or dying light the beast shadows actually reviewed pretty well or civilization 7 so you get one of those we just always bring up battlefield 6 because we I think it's the one that people are more likely to want to play.

1:59:53So, no, there is no arc for MSRP, at least not on Newegg right now. Yeah. But it's still not as bad as it's probably going to get, is all I'll say about that. Oh, right. Oh, Dan, are we ready for the shirt design vote? I don't think you sent it to me. What?

2:00:19Thank you.

2:00:24yep never clicked send classic linus okay we can do a topic in the meantime yeah we could do a pull the austrian supreme court oh wait oh i was excited about this because the first time i read this i was excited about it because i misread it the austrian supreme court declares ea sports fc's loot boxes and fc ultimate mode do not constitute gambling yep says they're not gambling arguing that player skill still impacts success even though rewards are randomized. Okay, so blackjack isn't gambling. Poker isn't gambling. Hearts isn't gambling. Roulette isn't gambling. Okay, that one is a bit of a reach.

2:01:09You think you can have skill at roulette? I think... Well, you have to put the pieces into the correct place for where the number's going to come up. Dan, are you trying to be helpful right now? Because I don't think you are. sounds like loot boxes to me you get to pick which one you want right oh i see okay okay you know he's just being down about it that makes that makes way more sense okay i don't know what you're talking about should try listening i think it's arguable that there is there is an amount of skill even if close to immeasurable in basically everything other than slots hmm is there anything that i mean no you can't say okay so you're trying to tell me a die roll has a degree of skill that's i don't think an honest die roll has a degree of skill and i would make the argument that rolling the bead or the marble or whatever for roulette like there there is no way i've never done it but i really i really do wonder the roulette wheel the dealer spins you just put chips on the number where you think it's going to land they send it and you can pick a single number and i think it's a 50 to 1 and then you can split numbers and you can do a whole bunch of stuff and then where the ball lands the chips and they they send it you don't throw they throw the ball you don't touch the ball you just put chips on the table that's got to be pure gambling then they're all pure gambling in the dice one well i know so craps is what i play um no i'm actually serious okay all right tell us about craps dan is that the dice one yeah i don't know about craps i don't even think people who play claps no play claps play craps sorry if you're gambling and you know it clap your hands now i'm poor if you're gambling and you know it and you really want to show it if you're gambling and you know it.

2:03:08Cut into force. Okay, well. So craps is strange. Craps is a strange game. There's like two modes to craps. You have your, you're like you're in and you're out. You have to throw the dice across the back wall and you... Right, so that's to make sure that you can't like spin them and try to... So it has to hit the wall and come back? I think it's table, wall, back into the table. oh okay yeah so you're you're the walls have spikes on them that's and the dice oh my goodness and the dice are like perfectly squares like they're the edges are sharp so they catch and they bounce and they're changed constantly and uh i didn't know it had to bounce off a wall i didn't know the other factors i thought you were literally just talking it is not a skill game um people say that they can do it but i mean like sure sure sure sure sure sure however saying that i can't understand why they think that opening a loot box has any variant of skill because like with craps betting effectively is really very complicated um well here's what i can say you can still lose it all here's what the court said and we'll see what you think of this okay the court emphasized that loot boxes can't be judged in isolation but must be evaluated within the context of the game.

2:04:38So what? Because the game has some skill, the loot box is okay, even though it's obviously gambling.

2:04:53I think I just hate it. Is this from, who's this from? Is this, that's Australian. Austrian. Okay. I was worried this was EU have they lost their way no we're still good let's see what else the case was brought by gamers who spent about 20 ,000 euro on packs and while EA welcomed the decision legal experts say it could push lawmakers to create clearer regulations since existing gambling laws weren't designed with modern game mechanics in mind I certainly hope so because man this has been going on a really long time now it really has like it just doesn't it just gambling's taking over the world doesn't just seem like like this stuff could be solvable i know they're part of the eu but this was not an eu decision they're different things i understand what's going on you remember how we talked earlier on the show about how like with ai you know it's not obvious we can't just look at it and go well this is obvious we just like need to fix this and in the same way the the microtransaction loot box gotcha like gambling scene is evolving so fast that i know i i i don't think that all the solutions are necessarily obvious but what there are are extremely obvious steps so we could at least be engaging in the arms race rather than just one of the weird things to me letting it take over people don't seem like they want it stopped well no there's so much money in it no like even the people getting wrecked i mean some of them do but there has to be like uh there has to be a certain level of of reform and self-awareness and honesty my problem is to say that this is a problem that i'm struggling to explain is that like you know democratic governments you're supposed to enact the will of the people i think the people want it changed which is a weird change but i it feels true to me like it doesn't feel like anyone cares anymore okay so there's there's gambling ads everywhere no one seems to be affected by it i definitely affected no one seems to there is what i meant was the creators themselves if you did gambling ads in 2010 on youtube oh dude you would have been flayed if you do gambling ads now no one cares and someone's gonna be like oh i care yeah i'm using like exaggeration stuff i'm sorry but of course some people relative relative to what it was like very very very very very small percentage of people are actually gonna act on it at all yeah um i know and it's it's weird and you see and the market is responding to that specifically in my opinion because places that try to have squeaky clean reputations like the nfl stayed very far away from gambling for a very long time and now has like embraced it hard deeply embraced it yep and super hard they got nothing negative for it as far as i can tell it's it's free real estate at that point it's free money nobody cared they just they just got that money yep like it it's uh yeah people are just down and like i i know people that have been wrecked by it and just keep going back and it is what it is they just do sport gambling every week okay i mean you like, look, it's not like I don't, it's not like I don't understand it.

2:08:38Like, but like the, my, my point is if lawmakers tried to come in and block it, I think people would be annoyed. Yeah. I think people would be legitimately upset. The people who are being harmed by it the most are the ones that would theoretically want to fight against it, but in practice would just be kind of irritated that you're taking away their fun. And I think that, you know, you know, we've talked pretty extensively about how things are kind of challenging right now in general. Any kind of assault on people's fun, what they see as the thing that they still get to do that's fun for them, I think is not going to be received well, to your point.

2:09:20Yeah. I still think that as creators, we could... Um, I still think as creators, there's room for us to just be responsible and, and not engage with this. Um, but I have to admit that in the early days of the, like, I don't really follow NFL. I don't really follow the NBA, but I do follow the NHL a little bit. and in the early days of NHL athletes starting to take these gambling sponsorships and reporters like pushing them on it during interviews and stuff I was like super grossed out by some of the ones that had these partnerships and even myself as someone who has has been publicly anti-gambling for as long as I can remember having a public stance on it um I don't remember who they were anymore.

2:10:21I don't remember who I was grossed out by. And I don't even notice anymore who is, who are the ones that are sponsored by gambling and who aren't like my, my ad block has just kind of engaged and I've moved past it. Not intentionally, but just, I was frog boiled, you know? Yeah. And that's how they get you. and so for me as someone who doesn't gamble in that sense i mean i definitely i make bets you know i think that uh honestly life is i think it's one of the reasons why it's so addictive for humans gambling yeah it's like such an incredibly high percentage of life getting up in the morning is a gamble you might die today not getting up in the morning is a gamble ordering it's all chances everything's chances ordering true spec cables is a gamble if i if i order too many then uh my cash flow is tied up potentially for months or even years we've had products that we had in stock for like years like two or three years from our original order date and if i don't order enough then i have people beating down my door and it's a huge lost opportunity and you know then i'm kicking myself and so it's a it's a gamble everything's a everything's a gamble worked you know uh every fart that's very true meg or in philip and chat right like your farts a gamble your potential future spouse could smell it and decide not to hang out i think they mean something else oh okay i thought you were trying to actually like say something talking about uh brown shirts already it's true though okay it is technically i mean yeah that's why we don't make any white underwear on ltt store that's why i don't wear underwear is that actually true yeah we know our users oh no we're there for you oh my god we've got your back side holy crap i guess that's a ding wow i mean look think about it from a brand standpoint would i ever want any image to exist of an LTT underwear with a skid mark on it.

2:12:55No. No. What if they come with them? So that's why you can like mask them. That's why we use deep color bases or black as our base fabric for all of our underwear.

2:13:08There's just certain, there's certain things that I just fundamentally believe. One of the things that I believe is that the world doesn't need more plumber bum. So anytime we make a bottom, um like i'll do like uh i'll make sure that as part of my test of the medium and then i like i check with the fashion team like make sure you check the grading on the other sizes that we do like a gape test at the back like if i if i'm sitting straight can you see my ass crack and if you can we have a problem now obviously i would be wearing underwear in these situations that is our underwear which is designed not to show ass crack right so no one's actually looking at my ass crack in product meeting not that technically employees haven't done that before what what are you talking about dennis had to edit some footage no he didn't have so what he did was he blurred the whole frame and then slowly unblurred so he didn't have to look at anything anyway and that wasn't my butt that was much worse so so that's so that's one of the things that what no he's like do i really have to write this down yeah i think so i think so so i believe that the world needs less plumber bum not more of it and then the other one of the other things that i believe is that the world needs less skid marks not more of them so our underwear are and and look if you if you drop an entire load like you know like you're sitting in the oval office or something then that's one thing like there's no amount of protection that any color of underwear can give you from that but you know if it's if it's you know you know a wet one you know for instance then for the most part you should be able to you should be able to wash it out and that's that's the plan that's the goal it at least shouldn't be immediately noticeable

2:15:10oh okay right so speaking of product meeting um i had a chat with ashley she's one of our members of our a wonderful design team and we've been working on this she just had this cute drawing of a parrot on the wall next to her desk and i was like is that like a design for something we're doing and she was like no not really it's just kind of like well maybe you know it kind of and I was like okay sure but like it's adorable like should we do something with that and she's like yeah I guess so so she put together a couple mock-ups for me and I think this is something that's going to resonate in a big way with our community and Dan can you go ahead Luke is going to be the final call but it's a it's an if buying isn't owning shirt which one do you like better i gave her your feedback about the anatomy of bird wings because we were trying to go for kind of a shrug um i don't want to influence you guys so i'm just gonna i'm just gonna shut up now and i'll let luke kind of talk through through his preferences and then we'll let you guys uh we'll let you guys vote in float plane chat about two minutes for poll but i think yeah One minute is fine.

2:16:28I think they're super cute. I think Ashley did a great job with the design. And I'll let you guys kind of pick which one you like better. I'm just going to crop out the arms. Don't worry too much about the shirt color for now. Because it might go on a different color shirt. We're looking at the design. Okay, so chat's so far going with... Don't just pick based on chat. No, I can talk about my reasoning too to explain it. but chat is going with the one that I was kind of leaning on, which is the top one. My whole thing was that the, the like shoulder joint on a bird is kind of strange. And I can, I'll let Dan keep working on that.

2:17:08There you go. Luke's about to get into bird anatomy here. So like on here, it kind of looks like it comes all the way over, but that's not many passions. That's not like where it connects to the main body of the bird. That's like their elbow basically. um like up here where my where the finger is pointing so when you see here like it's it's way back yeah like if i look at uh birds flying and you look at the the body like the body of the bird is way down it's it's basically on its back it's and like not quite but it like it's like a shoulder blade basically like it's at the back of the body not like here so uh yeah so to me the bottom one and like i don't i'm not very cute bird i'm not trying to i fully understand i'm being super annoying and lame i just want to put that out there okay this is i know yeah but it looks more like it's coming out of like the middle of the bird you see what i'm saying yeah yeah i see what you mean So my brain just as like a weird bird loser is like, hey, the wing's in the wrong spot.

2:18:23So then I want to go with the top one because now it doesn't really, I mean, it still sort of does. It doesn't really have the problem as much. Okay. But yeah, bird wing thing, when it's folded in, it kind of, you know, they're like this. All right, Floatplane agrees with you, and 71 % say the top design. So I will let her know on Monday. Yeah, also the bottom one doesn't... I don't necessarily know that either of them do. I don't know how the heck you would draw a bird shrugging. So like... She really tried. This is not a criticism at all. She really tried. I have literally no idea how you would do that.

2:19:03This is infinitely better than what I would have done. They would just move even farther backwards. Okay. Yeah, which is not going to... I'm going to throw this for a little loop. She did have a one-armed shrug, but I didn't even show it to you because I didn't think it would work for you. Yeah, yeah. She really tried. A bird shrugging is not a natural. It's probably impossible. I mean, I'm sure Iago does it at some point in Aladdin, but this is a really different drawing style. Here's another example of what I'm talking about. Like, look at where that's connecting on this bird's body. Yeah, yeah, I see what you mean.

2:19:35uh so then but but given the insane task of trying to draw a bird shrugging like i don't i didn't really have a lot of advice because i don't know what the heck you could could do oh man um guys relax avians says the aliasing on the letter sucks guys it's a teams message sent to me that i that i snipping tooled and then teams to dan and then i also snipping tooled it and then put it into so many layers. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Birds are cute. Yeah. What do you think of the copy? What was it? If buying isn't owning, dot dot dot. Yeah, I mean, I like that. That seems pretty good.

2:20:24Alright, cool. Is the 7th Monday? No. Why would teams default to a Saturday for a scheduled message? Why does teams do freaking anything, man? Yeah, it should do nothing. Good idea. I think I would prefer life if that was true. That sounds like they're a product from app already. Yeah. Hey, you want to fix to something that's like incredibly obvious what we should do and is like a precedent set by everyone and would be definitely better than anything else we could possibly do? Nope. We're not going to do that. Cool. We will do it, but in a different way. That is objectively worse and no one likes.

2:21:04Nice. Nice. Solid. Why teams? Because it's cheap and it's bundled with stuff you're probably going to get anyways, which is why basically everyone has teams. Autonomous cars are getting prompt injected by road signs. Researchers at UC Santa Cruz and Johns Hopkins have shown that self-driving cars and autonomous drones will just follow instructions that are written on physical signs that are held up in front of their cameras it's prompt injection but in the real world instead of a chat box in simulated tests they got an 81.8 success rate tricking a self-driving car running gpt40 into ignoring pedestrians in a crosswalk just by placing a sign with a command in its camera view.

2:21:56They also tricked drones that were programmed to follow police cars into following a different vehicle by putting police Santa Cruz on the roof of a random car. The AI fell for that one up to 95.5 % of the time. drones programmed to find safe landing spots would land on debris covered rooftops if a sign reading safe to land was placed nearby oh thanks man yeah real world physical tests of this worked too not just simulations they put signs on the floor and on rc cars around a university building and got up to 92.5 % success, hijacking GPT-40's decision-making. The attacks worked in multiple languages, English, Chinese, Spanish, and even Spanglish.

2:22:50Green backgrounds with yellow text were the most effective. The researchers called the method, really, CHI, command hijacking against embodied AI. They found the wording of the prompt mattered most, but font, color, and sign placement also affected success rates. this is basically the same prompt injection problem we've seen with ai reading malicious web pages or pdfs except now it's in a physical environment where the consequences could be people getting run over cool but hey you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs right luke all of them you have to break every single egg the eggs are us how would i become a trillion dollar company if a few people didn't get run over.

2:23:36That's, yeah, I mean, that's how that works. That's how that works. That's how that works. Firefox introduces AI kill switch. Firefox comes through with a block AI enhancements toggle that nukes all current and future AI features from your browser. This is coming February 24th with Firefox 148. Cool. Nice. That was all we had to say about that? Seems neat. this one's fun audio files can't differentiate between audio signals sent through copper through a banana or through mud in a blind test pano a member of the diy audio forum conducted an experiment where listeners were asked to identify audio signals sent through wire mud and even a banana and most guest lists landed near random which suggests that no reliable difference exists in the audio at line level.

2:24:33The experiment challenges the idea that tiny cable differences dramatically impact sound quality, especially when expectations and branding are removed from the equation. Dan, you make your own cables. Does this affect you? Do you know what I use for speaker cable at home for analog speakers? Coat hanger! Phone cable that's from like the mid-80s. Nice. Solid. I think the conductors are smaller than a pencil lead. It sounds fine. um the cables that i make here using mogami gold dual twisted pair um are shielded they have a synthetic pull cord in the center of them and they are designed for a professional environment where they are twisted and unplugged and replugged in 700 times a day and get thrown around and okay they are shielded from interference and durable durable and they are good forever they're not because they sound better thanks dan thank you for that sanity that was injected into um a place that needs more of it which is the high-end cable space i kind of want i might not make it home if you don't hear from me on monday big cable big cable got him dan is not suicidal material can still affect audio in high-powered setups over very long runs or in interference heavy environments but how much mud but for typical listening the differences may be far smaller than marketing would suggest a good example of this would be how with older unshielded instrument cables you can sometimes hear am radio signals through your speakers if you have a bad ground so to be clear and this is coming from someone who literally launched a cable product last week there is a time and a place for a high quality cable but we just need to drop the horse around it and focus on the things that actually matter with a higher quality cable or use that to transmit the audio you could use a usb cable to carry audio if you want to sorry what the the horse do you bleep that word i think so not horse yeah the one after that i mean i might i I might bleep whores, but not horse.

2:26:52I don't think you'd bleep whores. You don't think so? I don't think so. I mean, I guess the evidence is backing you up on this. And you, you didn't do it either. Yeah. You didn't do it either. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm surprised you didn't take that home. I have one. Oh, nice. Solid. I think this one is maybe for the show. I'm not sure. But yeah, I have one at home. It's on display. I was very certain you were going to snag one of those. Oh, absolutely. Those are selling really well, by the way. They're awesome. it's on display like right behind my desk it's yeah that actually makes a ton of sense yeah so yeah float plane exclusive colorway of the ltd precision pro screwdriver set pretty cool we even redid the mold for the cover that's not the mold but that's cool too the black plastic cover yeah oh what do we seriously not show that oh my god okay well well it doesn't even matter that much but sure luke can show it uh anywho in the meantime why don't we check out if there's any other topics oh valve steam machine has been delayed but not delayed oh here you go luke cam there you go it has a float plane logo instead of an ltt logo now so valve never actually said that they were going to launch the steam machine on a specific day at specific price.

2:28:17They were intentionally vague and cagey about that. But that is not going to stop people from saying the Steam Machine has been delayed, and they're kind of sort of right. Valve has pushed back the early 2026 launch window for the Steam Machine, Steam Frame, and Steam Controller due to the ongoing RAM and storage shortages across the industry. Rising memory costs have forced Valve to revisit both shipping timelines and pricing, especially as RAM prices have reportedly tripled or even quadrupled amid AI server demand. Valve says it still aims to ship the hardware in the first half of the year, but won't announce firm dates or prices until supply conditions stabilize, which Lord only knows when that is going to happen.

2:28:59Can I take a moment to completely change topics now and say how much I think it sucks that modern server hardware is so unusable after its end of life like there was kind of a golden moment there when old server motherboards and cpus and ram were perfectly cromulent gaming setups that you could run normal consumer hardware on and normal consumer operating systems and when they were a few years old you could totally still get your hands on enough stuff to to run these computers in a in a home environment and you could often get them for really really affordably whereas now much like what we've seen with mobile devices servers are so tightly integrated that even if you even if you got your hands on some 192 core epics a few years from now five years from now when a data center is going oh these are consuming too much power to even bother running them right when back when you used to be able to get old server cpus for pennies on the dollar what motherboard would you put them in there are some but the thing is when a cpu is eol so is the motherboard and since the vast vast majority of the boards that these are going into are going to be bespoke near or nearly bespoke designs for like blade or or or super thin liquid cooled like one or two u machines there's going to be no boards to put them in so we're going to have all these cpus We're going to have all this ECC DDR5 memory.

2:30:47And it's just going to be like garbage because nobody would use it for what it was originally used for anymore because it's just not even worth powering up at that point. It's not worth powering up and cooling and you can't use it for anything else. I was just I was thinking about this the other day and Corey G says there's data centers that sell that stuff. I know that's exactly what I'm saying, but it used to be that you could pick up some old Opterons and have like a cheap quad core setup at home, or you could pick up an old Xeon and you'd find like Chinese sellers on AliExpress that were cutting the chipsets off of old motherboards and remanufacturing boards to put them in.

2:31:25but you might have noticed that that practice never really moved beyond that generation of Xeons and that's because everything is so much more locked down now and it blows yeah it's no fun I had some hope that that kind of stuff would get cracked open because just the sheer volume of stuff that the enterprise is buying right now would eventually hit the market and there might be like hardware hacker homebrew type stuff to try to get it working um but i'm losing that hope a little bit as things seem to be going the like google bespoke hardware route um and we're never seeing any of that so yeah i mean we could we could hold up maybe a little bit of hope i mean epic is an soc so epic in particular it is possible that if there are just and and and And there will be like just hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of these epic chips that are on motherboards that use like custom, you know, edge, like edge interfaces in order to get power to them and stuff that you can't just like power with an ATX power supply that someone will start manufacturing boards for them, like salvaging chips from these things.

2:32:45and then manufacturing, you know, more modular desktop boards for them or something like that. But like, if you go on AliExpress, I don't think, I don't think past X299 it ever really continued. Or was it, or was it X99? Was X99 the end of this? These like remanufactured boards from like machinists and stuff like that? I think so. I'm not sure. Like you can still get these and these were a great bang for the buck back in the day, but now they're... A Xeon V4 is pretty freaking old now. That's what, like, Haswell? Xeon V4, I think that's Haswell. Yeah. Yikes. Oh no, V3 is Haswell. Apparently. Miskwee said, new CPU spinners is what I'm hearing.

2:33:43That would... Cut off your fingers? That's sad. Yeah, that too. Sorry, I'm just going to make sure it's Haswell. Someone in chat want to let me know? No, V4 is Broadwell. That's right. I forgot about Broadwell because it existed for like three weeks on the desktop. Do you remember the 5775C? I don't think so. Yeah, it was a weird chip. Did LTT ever do a video?

2:34:12this is when i would have been pretty tuned in yeah i remember this thing it was a trippy chip yeah maybe i do yeah it had this like giant cache yeah and then um it was the it was technically the like 770k of that generation was the the 5775c was like the the k like the worst naming and then ever do i think it was like seriously less than two months that it was the flagship next gen chip and then it was replaced by the 6700k that went on to be you know king of the 14 nanometer plus plus plus plus plus plus until new ones came um yeah yeah people are like whoa nokie's like whoa it had 128 megs of level 4 cash like yeah it was a it was a pretty cool chip and as far as i can tell they sold like tens of them like i don't i don't know what was up with that thing or what the what the why they even bothered to bring it to market after it was so late is that a video no i don't think so okay spain banned social media for kids under 16 and and Elon is somewhat indelicate about it.

2:35:29I have no idea what that means. Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez announced Spain will ban social media access for users under 16, calling social media a failed state where laws are ignored and crime is endured. I like it. Intense. The regulations go beyond just an age ban. Social media companies will be required to implement effective age verification systems. Oh.

2:35:56those always backfire uh and not just check boxes algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content will become a new criminal offense this i like this is pretty based tech ceos will face criminal liability for well algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content i guess the content itself would have to be illegal i was gonna say content of illegal things gets really fuzzy. So it's the amplification of illegal content. Yeah. So it's like if you're a news reporter... How would they even fix this? Go back to just the people you follow are the people that you see content from?

2:36:35Whoa, that would be crazy, hey? Can you imagine if Facebook was just Facebook again? I would use Facebook again. Really? Yeah. That's a wild take. I would do it. Really? I think it'd be fun. If you just like followed, you know... If every single thing in my feed were just people that I knew that I followed, I would use Facebook again. Okay. Here's a crazy pitch. No. Float book. Will it be... I knew exactly where he was going. Will it be chronological? I loved Facebook. I loved all of these platforms until they got rid of the chronological. I don't care if someone spams. If they spam and I find it annoying, I'll just unfriend them.

2:37:14Chad says yes. Just go punch them in the face. face in the morning chat says yes Gilmore says I would join the worst part is probably not that hard yeah do it with like the open source stuff for like what is it Mastodon or whatever which is like basically just Twitter which is how they all built all their things it would just be Twitter but it's just only the people you follow it probably wouldn't be that hard I just really don't want to do it I don't want to do it there's no money in it I'm not interested it's not there's no future there It doesn't fit into our company at all. That's fine. I have better ideas anyway.

2:37:50Okay, good. Better visions. Actually, you know what? Maybe this is something that exists already. I really want this to be a thing. You know, I'll let you finish this, and then I'll talk about the thing that I want. Sure. Tech CEOs will face criminal liability for hateful or illegal content on their platforms. Oh. Sanchez cited specific examples. X's Grok AI generating sexualized images of children, meta spying on Android users, and election interference campaigns on Facebook.

2:38:26Spain has formed a coalition with five other unnamed European nations to enact stricter social media governance together. This follows Australia's under-16 ban enacted last year, the UK is actively considering a similar ban, and that Denmark and Malaysia have announced plans to do the same. It's becoming a global trend, which is great. No specific enforcement timeline has been announced yet, so the details of how this actually works in practice are still unclear. Our discussion question is, does banning kids from social media actually protect them or does it just push them to find workarounds?

2:39:02Can I... Okay, maybe this will be my chance for a hot take. Can I say I consider it positive either way? yeah no i completely agree if if it protects them great no oh if it doesn't protect them and they like become more technically competent uh i think it better arms them for an increasingly digital world so yeah no i think it's good either way matt from the labs web team in float plane chat said adding float book to trello for monday sick uh little does matt know that we don't subscribe to trello anymore so don't tell linus you don't know what things that happen at your company don't tell linus i thought oh no i'm i'm getting rid of trello it's not a paid thing i think or something i don't remember oh so we're just not going to pay for trello anymore it's uh there are different task management for different teams oh for crying out loud the air table switch i'm over it was for lmg as a production line is over it linus it's okay that's why air table is is a like a nuclear bomb.

2:40:06I'm over it. And Trello is a scalpel for like a few people. I'm over it. We just have to defend ourselves. I'm over it. Damone's here too. Damone doesn't have a little flag. I'm over it. Does it play sounds? I'm over it. No, no. I have a way better idea anyway. So maybe this exists. I hope it exists, but I want it to be pretty much exactly like what I'm saying because I well no, it might exist already. You might have opinions and that's okay, but you need to think exactly what I'm thinking. No, no, no. It's not what you said. It's just... No, that's not what I said at all. People are going to make suggestions and they're all wrong because they have to be perfect like Linus's thoughts.

2:40:44No, no, no, no. It's... Listen. That's what you were saying! Okay, so... I... Sorry, you keep going. You're good. You're fine. No. You're fine. No. I'm sure it's a great idea. No, it might not be a great idea. We all want to hear your idea. I literally don't care if it's a great idea. It's just something that I want. The whole class wants to hear your idea. I don't want to share it anymore. We'll all sit and be quiet. You don't have to be quiet. You just have to not laugh at me. Okay. Okay. So, I take a lot of pictures, right? What? I just... What? Nah. You just told me I can't laugh, and that immediately made it incredibly hard not to laugh.

2:41:29That's literally a trick for, like, two-year-olds. I know. Okay, don't laugh. I'm going to take the picture now. Don't laugh. I know I never grew up. Are you thinking about smiling? Because if you're thinking about smiling, that's not the thing to do right now because I'm taking a serious picture. That is funny. That would work on me. I know. Oh God. It would work on me too. Okay, sorry. My mom's trick was always that she would just completely have her composure nailed down and she'd go, all right, everybody ready? Okay, everybody serious? Okay, pee-pee-poo-poo-bum-bum-fart. part and it just it didn't matter kids adults didn't matter always worked that's pretty funny that's pretty good nobody it's i don't understand what it because it only takes one person to break yeah and then it's contagious yeah yeah yeah yeah okay you take a lot of pictures yeah okay I take a lot of pictures, but I don't necessarily remember the context, and I don't necessarily have anything associated with it that helps me with the memory, or that makes it more fun to share with someone.

2:42:48And already that's a format that totally exists. You take a picture and then you tapity tapity type of thing. And then you like, you like share it. But what I want is pretty much that, except I don't share it. So I want a more sophisticated metadata mechanism where basically I take a picture and immediately immediately a voice recording prompt comes up a voice to text and i go you know this was so funny because two minutes before i took this you said this and this and this and it was hilarious or whatever you could get crazy funding for this so i'm imagining like uh like photography you know like it's basically like uh it's like a diary uh but in photography form and it's really meant for my own consumption it's an alternative it's like a digital version of what a scrapbook would be for someone who's way too lazy to scrapbook because so it's like what what google's doing with google photos with their memories thing but manual and therefore much more accurate yeah yeah and then and then obviously there would be times that i would want to share it with someone so i could see having like shared shared albums or like shared shared permissions and so having the ability to see just my own or things that are shared with me by specific people or everything that's mine plus what everyone shared with me but nothing algorithmic float goat and float plane chat apparently we have that user now nice um said that hopefully it would be self-hosted app yeah the problem is if anyone else made this and the reason why i said i know you could get a bunch of funding for it is it would be ai scraping all of your notes and then doing stuff with it including helping you search through it and find things um but also probably selling your data and doing other stuff like that so yeah i i don't know like does that we're not making that

2:45:03yeah but like but i want it like what if i could like what if i could just like take a picture like i don't i i i'll be honest it might be actually i'd never heard of bad bunny until he co-hosted the tonight show while i was a guest but i i did hear of him at that time and so i like researched him a little bit so that i would know who he was when he was sitting there across the desk and the album that he was promoting last year uh during the appearance uh or sorry last last year 2024 uh or five uh what last year damn um was i should have taken more pictures or something like that was what it roughly translated to in english and that actually really stuck with me because i've thought many times about how i'm always on video but i never take any pictures i I have almost no digital record of what things were like behind the scenes at the Langley house, for instance.

2:46:03Do you remember that time that we emptied out the garage in order to build sets or something? And I took... Scraphead Wars. No, no, no. At my house. Oh. That I emptied out the garage to build sets and took all of the like parts and tables and everything out of the garage and stacked it up into the living room. Oh, yes. my living room was piled so high with tech crap and cameras and tripods and tables that like i couldn't navigate it it was like up to here it was nuts yeah i didn't take a picture of it i just i did a pretty good job with the think of it i know that we were doing of taking some little videos and pictures here and there but how an amazing one but how cool would it have been if i just had like snap picture we had to pile everything out of the garage into the living room and we can barely stand in here.

2:46:54Boop. And then that was just part of the metadata of that photo along with where it was taken, when it was taken, what camera it was taken, with all the metadata that already exists. And I had a really bad experience with Canon's Zoom browser way back in the day because I actually did something like this. I used to maintain every picture I took on my old PowerShot A20. I would write a little blurb about who it was and where I was and what was happening. And what I realized one day when I reformatted my computer and I reinstalled Zoom Browser was that that metadata existed within Zoom Browser, which was Canon's proprietary first-party photo sorting app.

2:47:32It was actually pretty cool, except that it wasn't injecting that metadata into the files themselves, and I lost all of it. And ever since Zoom Browser, I've wanted a way to reproduce what I did arduously manually with Zoom Browser, but just more conveniently with my phone. People are saying image. This is that thing that I brought up on screen. Yeah, image is cool, but it doesn't do that. It doesn't feel like it's what you're describing. Yeah. I don't know why people are saying image. A little bit confused about the image recommendation. I don't know much about this. I'm discovering it today, but clicking through it, it doesn't seem like it works like this at all.

2:48:16it's more of like a google photos yeah but self-hosted it seems awesome but just not what linus is describing and tag studio seems like kind of a cool thing but really what i'm after is not a separate thing i have to install and and like like upkeep i want something that as i'm going i just yak yak yak yak yak picture and now it's it's logged like that i'm gonna riff off something that full pin chat brought up having vibe coded an app do you feel like it would be real now you're an incredibly busy person if you were say if you had an hour every day to work on this do you feel like you would

2:49:09it's tough if you had a little bit more free time however you wanted to find that i feel like we used to i feel like the our relationship with photographs used to be different um we used to take fewer of them we were more intentful about them because every photograph cost money we used to look at them we used every time we'd look at them we'd laugh and i find i take i okay so i said i don't take enough pictures i thought it was good you're wonderful um but i do i do take more than i used to but i look at them less i don't think i look at them less because i actually really like the google photos memories feature interesting i like we'll actually click on it and actually skip through them i've turned off my notifications for google photos so maybe i just don't get those i like it a lot okay yeah like i'll constantly get like old ces trips i think it knows that i really like the notifications of trips that makes sense that checks out honestly probably usually when i take my most photos i mean that's probably a pretty common one yeah so like i wonder if i even have any notifications right now um yeah tim's asking i could i could make what you're describing it's like not difficult you're not asking for a difficult thing i mean i think where things could get more memory for you click on it it puts play some music music and and then you you click on it it just goes through different photos yeah my in-laws will send me these every once in a while uh like of my kids in their in their Google photo things.

2:50:51Um, sorry, bud was, uh, saying something and then I lost it. Um,

2:51:03can't find it. Oh yeah. Uh, would you need like styles on the iPhone or whatever the Android equivalent is? I mean, honestly, you know, I'm the basicest there is when it comes to, when it comes to photos. Um, I'm just, for me, it's more about, Hey, remember that that was cool when we were all there and we did that thing and and we enjoyed it and and shared a memory right like it's amazing how much we how much we lose i was talking to especially kids like i was talking to my kids about something and you know one of them completely didn't remember a place we've gone multiple times as a family another one didn't remember living in our old house which is like yeah i mean when you were 10 how much did you remember from when you were six or seven probably very little that's a third of your life and it like does work like that like she remembered that we did it but she didn't like okay remember it okay yeah okay very well like her her life is in this new place yeah she's wild okay okay fair enough i was gonna be like dude that's crazy no no no no no but my kid's not dumb she's got a functioning memory it's just well i don't remember what my memory was like when i was 10 yeah so like i don't know um and there are massive voids for me now from back then oh 100 so like i i'm not sure yeah it's like and it's weird like the little things you'll remember like i uh like i remember this one time that i ate like nearly an entire box of honey nut Cheerios dry from the box?

2:52:43Yeah, there's all these. You know, like you'll have these little weird flashes. And like I remember. Why can I listen to a Blink song that I genuinely haven't heard off some like weird esoteric Blink album in like 20 years and just know all the lyrics immediately? Music's a funny one though. Music does just work magic on our brains. Yeah, in ways that other things don't. I have, there was one trip I went on when I was very little, like two or something. And my ma 'am air had a waterbed and a yellow washing machine. And for some reason drilled into my brain is waterbed and yellow washing machine.

2:53:25And the waterbed, I can like describe the room. And like we had this conversation with my dad like not even that long ago. And I mentioned those two things and he was like, what? like barely even remembered i was like alive when those things existed right because i was like so little and for some reason i just know of those things like i have no idea why i've remembered that i remember the sound of my dad's water bed but i don't remember what it looked like sure yeah like what yep so random what happened to water beds anyway i don't know can you buy a waterbed still uh popular in the 70s and 80s offering unique pressure relief and blah blah blah waterbed can you like can you can you can you can you can you buy a waterbed heart side probably pretty nice for thermal regulation wayfair semi-waveless waterbed mattress like am i is this a thing no idea I currently sleep on a California king-sized waterbed with my wife.

2:54:37Mind paradox. Okay. Color ivory. Yeah, I think this is a waterbed. Wow. Complete upholstered wood frame waterbed. Premium strobel hydro support 1600 inch semi-waveless waterbed mattress. Upholstered frame, blah, blah, blah. Go figure. They're heated, right? I mean, they'd have to be. Otherwise, you'd be so cold. Ladder type. Single. Can they tell that from a urine sample?

2:55:22What? I wonder if they could tell if you were active or not. I mean, probably. I think maybe. Yeah, I'd think so. anyways uh any other topics i don't know maybe oh we should oh yeah oh we do have more uh oh yes yes data centers in space uh but first this message from our sponsor odoo have you ever been in one of those sandwich shops that lets you pick all the ingredients some cabbage a smattering of carrots a hearty helping of pork the hell sandwich shops are we about here. Well, our sponsor Odoo functions in a very similar sense, but for the different aspects of running your business. You can use their CRM app to help make projects move along with a drag and drop interface for every checkpoint.

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2:57:45what oh nothing like genuinely overwatch 2 is now overwatch remember when it was supposed to be a different game from the first one including special hero missions a new pve story tech trees and more well i guess it still is but now it's just overwatch okay

2:58:07okay cool remember when everyone just a rename right yeah we'll remember well yeah again what about second rename yeah man what a bag fumble a bag fumble okay yes just overwatch like it was such it was such a huge thing and then it feels like they just i'm sorry did the pve die oh okay apparently the pve never came that's hilarious yeah that's awesome apparently they never did any of it yeah oh okay cool yeah sorry i i i'm not a big overwatch guy i thought overwatch 2 had been officially flagged as no more like a long time ago i just i remember the joke being back when they launched overwatch 2 that it was the whole thing was stupid because it was obviously a live service game anyway so what was the point of even calling it would be like calling fortnight fortnight 2 arbitrarily one day yeah okay okay cool and then that ended up being even more true than we thought and made fun of at the time yeah crazy oh okay i was actually really excited about the pve i thought it'd be fun that's cool because again the te the pve had stories and tech trees and stuff like it sounded like the way it was described it sounded actually like really cool oh yeah and then blizzard again was like no what does blizzard do that's good right now people like diablo still right i think most people are more into poe than diablo if you're in that style of the game really i think so okay oh oh path of exile no no i know yeah chat says nothing yeah i think they're just mostly declining literally nothing like how well no uh wow diablo immortal no wow is declining i'm pretty sure is it i thought it's pretty steady it's like gotta be uh wow subscriber count.

2:59:59I don't know if they publish it anymore. WoW quietly revealed a 9 million subscriber number. I mean... Estimates not actually confirmed by Blizzard according to Zagorim on r slash pcgaming. WoW Classic is getting kind of big. How does that make... Would it not have peaked a long time ago? i don't know if that's is it getting bigger is there are there any numbers on that how does anyone know anything retail is still good

3:00:40okay anything else bookhorse says blizzard's just a zombie as far as i know yeah i know they stopped reporting subscribers a long time ago apparently they peaked at 12 million according to an ai summary um back when they did report it wrath that was uh like 2010 i think was when it said they peaked okay sure that might be more accurate i think 2007 was tbc i mean they definitely still have millions of monthly paying subscribers so it's not like yeah but you're i don't feel like it's a growth sector for them i don't think anyone's excited especially if we're looking at retail like when's the last time retail was like a really exciting thing for people online outside of just the people who already play retail already oh yikes sticklier says that 12 million number was also a lie because it included pay by the hour pc cafes which counted a single hour as a subscriber whoops no key says remember when hearthstone was very popular yeah what happened hearthstone is fantastic uh it's just it's just like most blizzard properties like as far as my understanding goes it's fine but they're in that like holding pattern of like they're not really necessarily getting a ton of new users so now they're they're catering to long-term hardcore experienced players so they're putting more and more heavily mechanically advanced cards and systems into the game and a really really deep roster of heroes that you can choose and stuff like that which is cool if you've been into it forever and is daunting if you're a new player but they're knowing the people that they're aiming for now like it's not even necessarily a bad strategy but it's yeah i think the last new thing blizzard did was overwatch they were kind of on a bit of a tear there for a while here's the storm hearthstone overwatch and then they kind of just i mean and for all the hate that they're getting for devil immortal it's not like a lot of people weren't freaking playing it that like really smoked like how would I get a player count for that yeah because it's all through Blizzard's own launcher right so I can't just look at Steam stats or anything

3:03:01Diablo Immortal Revenue do they publish this people are saying some pretty high numbers Let's go.

3:03:15Diablo Immortal is a mobile game, Dan. that's why you don't know about it oh well I mean I don't have a phone so yeah this is actually a great Reddit post I played it for about a month during that time I joined a guild and was chatting with a few of my new guildmates asked them if they were pumped about Diablo 4 coming out and if they were going to play it 0 out of 3 had any idea that Diablo 4 was coming out in 2 months or had any means of playing it both of those 2 players were paid to win. Mobile gamers are so different from other types of gamers. You and I talking on the Diablo 4 subreddit, like you got to zoom out every once in a while and realize we are talking about completely different people doing completely different stuff, having absolutely no idea what exists outside of their mobile gaming bundle.

3:04:08Bumble. Bubble. bubble bubble bubble wild hey imagine playing diablo immortal and not knowing that diablo 4 is coming it is hard pretty wild for me to wrap my brain around that but what i can wrap my brain around is that i'm a little frustrated about what went on with the 9850X3D. So we had our video on it where we concluded that it ran faster and didn't consume a ton more power than the 9800X3D, which led us to conclude that AMD wasn't really like juicing this thing super hard in order to squeeze more performance out of it. It looks like we might have just gotten a really good chip. And in the age of clock speeds up to, as opposed to here's how fast it runs and here's the voltage and here's the power consumption this is something that is only going to become more of a problem rather than less of a problem it used to be that people would there were conspiracy theories that intel and amd and nvidia they would they would provide golden chips to reviewers and then the real product wouldn't perform as well and that was always kind of dismissed as as conspiracy theory nonsense because it was but now whether it's intentional or not that is something that can absolutely happen so user sugio lover published 17 results of their binned ryzen 7 9850 x3d 13 yeah 13 excuse me uh confirming that this chip is virtually an overclocked 9800 x3d just using higher voltages to achieve the chip's 400 megahertz higher boost clock when cross-referenced to hardware lux's results on the 9800 x3d it shows the large difference in core voltage between the two out of the 9800 x3ds published the slowest chip hit a single core boost clock of 5.611 gigahertz while the most using the most voltage of 1.348 volts going back to the 9850 x3d almost all the chips hit a similar clock speed while hovering around 1.31 so are they a little better it seems like yes um but not by as much as we might like to call it a new product when we compare the best 9850x3ds to the 9800x3d the 9800x3d uses about 13 more voltage which to be clear for these kinds of microprocessors 13 more voltages is that that's a lot more voltage yeah um but it is worth noting that tom's hardware found that their 9850 x3d consumed about 30 percent more power for only a three percent average performance improvement over their 9800 x3d so basically what we're seeing is there's a lot of overlap between the worst 9850 x3ds and the best 9800 x3ds once you start to play around with power profiles and voltages and i'm a little frustrated that we've reached the point where in order to review a cpu it almost feels like you have to have five of them sourced from five different places as opposed to just testing one and being able to report the performance that you get um that's all thank you for coming to my ted talk i'm just a little i'm just a little irritated right now because it's one of those things where as you guys might imagine i have a little bit of sensitivity around us you know publishing data in our videos do you think you'd have to potentially go multi-country i don't i don't actually think you'd have to do that but i do think there could be some value i was gonna say to different batches but even then i don't i don't even think that's likely to matter is because that's why i said different batches i feel like your chance of different batch would go up maybe if you were in multi-country i just don't i i think batches used to probably be more of a thing than they are today um i remember chatting with the the folks at intel when i did the fab tour there and um i i'm not going to disclose any numbers or anything but there is a possibility of having a perfect wafer it turns out um and what they told me about that led me to believe that batch to batch probably doesn't really matter that much because there's so many variables even within the multiple dies on a single wafer that at the end of the day it's all probably going to pretty much come out in the wash if you have more than a small handful of chips yeah what are the topics we got left uh oh one of the topics that i wanted to discuss is there's been um a fair bit of conversation on social media about oh lmg's willingness to invest in in pay for for its employees and i just wanted to kind of put this to rest again i feel like We did the how does LMG spend money video recently, and I laid out how much more LMG has spent on employee salaries going from 2024 to 2025.

3:09:41and it seems like that didn't really, I don't know, that didn't really sink in or it didn't really

3:09:55reach far enough. I'm not sure. Basically, I've always believed sunlight is the best disinfectant, so I actually asked accounting to put together some additional numbers. And here it is. revenue and wage growth since 2018 so we i've talked about this both i think on wanshow as well as in how does lmg spend money um revenue had struggled to grow for a couple of years after 2022 in spite of that a combination of hiring more people but not really that many our head count today is actually pretty similar to what it was in 2022 2023 so it's a combination of increased compensation for the people that are here as well as hiring additional people has seen our investment in people continue to increase even when our revenue has been quite flat so sorry this is a bit of a this is a little bit confusing because this says growth and this says growth but that's not actually it these are these are absolute values relative to each other so that doesn't mean they're both using the same y-axis it just means that we're looking at how these things track compared to oh wait wait no no i do remember sorry sorry sorry josh explain this to me uh growth is relative to 2018 so this is how much more than 2018 it is uh and then there's a different view that is a little bit easier for me to wrap my brain around and that's how much percentage change so this is zero over the previous year so wage growth outpaced revenue growth in 2019 revenue growth outpaced wage growth in 2020 they were both about the same in 2021 revenue growth outpaced wage growth a little bit in 2022 and then into 23 and 24 wage growth outpaced revenue growth dramatically and then they're uh they had those are reversed with revenue growth outpacing wage growth in 2025, but not by, not by very much.

3:11:57It's pretty close, like about like what we saw in 2019. Then there's profit. So I've talked about this before as well. This is all relative to 2018. So in 2022, because you're seeing that increased investment in people happen when revenue is flat, that obviously has an impact on profitability. neat right and then this is the year on year look so year on year we had a pretty big dip in profit in 2023 and things are a little bit more on pace with each other in 2024 and 2025 but as you can see even though revenues recovered a little bit in 2025 profitability is still has its own struggles just because there are other overhead concerns aside from just salaries.

3:12:55So just wanted to make it very, very clear that LMG has and continues to invest in people. And that applies both to key members that we want to keep here on the team, as well as to new hires.

3:13:20in other news five ryzen 9000s were killed in a single day by azrok motherboards allegedly azrok has issued a statement saying it's investigating reports of amd ryzen 9000s uh failing on its am5 motherboards the company says that it is conducting internal reviews working with amd and rolling out bios optimizations to improve stability this comes after five different Reddit posts claiming multiple Ryzen 9000 chips across different models stopped working, with some cases showing systems unable to boot even after BIOS updates. In most of these reports, the chips are getting hot enough to leave scorch marks on the CPU and socket.

3:14:01And Tom's hardware found around 350 reports of the same issue, albeit those ones are not verified. So our discussion question here is when hardware failures start trending online, how much should consumers rely on these anecdotal reports versus official failure rate numbers?

3:14:25Yikes, that's tough. Anecdotes are important. I don't think anecdotes should just be ignored.

3:14:33Official failure rate data, though, might take a really long time. And I think you should be... aware of the anecdotes just in case there isn't official failure rate data also um where did the official failure rate data come from yeah i wish i could who would i trust today if they gave me like internal failure rates who would you trust internal failure rates i'd trust noctua okay if noctua published a failure rate which i don't think they ever would but if they did i think i'd believe them is there anyone else you can think of that you would believe i don't mean to offend i think effectively no one um i think it's like and and this this isn't because i'm like companies are evil um it's like there's always the potential of a perverse incentive at every company everywhere um there's always the potential there are companies where i think it might happen less uh i am very ignorant to the reality a lot of those companies like like yeah my gut check says that noctua is probably going to be legit about it but do i have any idea how noctua functions as a company not in the slightest i think i probably have a little more insight than you like talk to them i've literally never talked but not much because i'm still i'm not just taking them at their word like they they've said over and over again like we cared about this and we made it quiet and reliable and we care about measurements and engineering and testing and then and then that has borne out so many times that that i have that i've built there's a track record going on yeah there's there's a track record you're not you're not in uh meetings with them seeing how they deal with management no i'm not so who knows there might be a perverse incentive somewhere which could push someone to skew things a little bit like you never you never know i haven't met every single person who works at noctua that's for sure no so there are there are companies that i would see that data from and believe more there are companies that i'd see that data from and believe less faxon says i would want third party i'd trust puget systems

3:17:12puget they're pretty freaking legit they're pretty based they're pretty freaking based I've met John. He's pretty based. That's one that I would index quite high. But for basically all of them, and when I say third party, this is a problem with all of these situations. A third party can't be hired by them. We have seen this. We've literally seen this happen. Which one? When that data gets skewed. There was an Intel one a bunch of years back. We talked about it on Wyan Show. You're talking about principled technologies, are you? Maybe that was it. where the benchmark data was off? I think that is what I'm talking about.

3:17:49It's not failure rate data, but I'm just talking about almost any data. Sure, sure, sure, sure. And I think that my bar would be lower for a private conversation versus something that they published. Like if an SI, for instance, told me like, yeah, we've seen a 50 % failure rate on these bloody things in the field. That's very talk and shop. Higher numbers also make me believe it. Way more. And I would like... If somebody said 50 % failure rate, I would just believe it. Especially if we're talking as... And the context of the conversation matters as well. Like we're talking as business owners.

3:18:25Yes. And if I was talking about like, oh yeah, we had this issue with our backpack where the stupid bloody supplier didn't put the two layers on. And they're like, oh my God, I'm going through this right now. It's horrible. Yeah, we're getting over half of our, you know, whatever card X is failing in the field and it's costing me a fortune in warranty returns. like where you're swapping war stories yeah a little bit like that the context trying to believe that a little bit more matters uh slithery says falcon falcon is another si actually the two si's on my list that i think i think if kelp told me something i'd be like yeah because he just man that guy cares so much i don't think i've met almost anyone else in the industry who's been in it as long as him and just like been through the ringer as much as him and uh because you got to remember falcon's not a volume company yeah like they never they're kind of like puget they've they've stayed in their lane and excelled in their niche but not like scaled right like like he's not hanging out on his yacht you know every other every other weekend like he's he's he's a work he's he works you know and uh and so he's just been kind of working as an si so this is back when I was at NCIX, you just, you get kind of screwed on everything.

3:19:41You get screwed on pricing, you get screwed on allocation, you get screwed on support. Like you go and you list this stuff and you say, yeah, it's compatible, but like, oh my God, I didn't even get any of these until yesterday. And I, or a few weeks ago to do a bit of like validation and testing, but like, I don't have the engineering resources that an AMD or an Intel or an NVIDIA has. So I'm like, I'm doing my best with open source tools or community built tools. It's a really tough business. And yeah, Kelt's still super passionate, which is impressive. Cool guy. The thing about an SI, though, is they're not really throwing their own product under the bus.

3:20:23They could be. They have their own cases, don't they? Yeah. What if their stuff's overheating? Yeah. Yeah, I think even then, though, it's like a shared blame. Whereas I think I would have a harder time believing someone's data on their own product. Like if I told you guys a failure rate for LTT screwdriver, I think that would be harder for you to believe versus if I told you guys a failure rate for our mold maker making the handles or something like that. it's hard to admit your own fault and i think that we intuitively know that and we trust people less when they're when they are so you you came back to what's the motivation behind the conversation if you say the failure rate of the mold maker that to me comes across as like woe is me our expenses are high and i'm trying to spin our quality control yeah rejecting those failures If it's further down the line, then you risk the incompetence angle.

3:21:33That's right. Or I'm throwing a member of my team under the bus, which obviously I would have more sensitivity about versus throwing some random under the bus, right? Yeah, you don't have to deal with those conversations. Like if I had to throw, if for some reason I had to throw Kyle under the bus for something, I would want to sugarcoat it. Yeah. I would want to, at least a little. That is a form of perverse incentive. this this the whole thing's a mess um basically i wouldn't i wouldn't blindly trust any of these numbers but um do with any of them what you will i'm just trying i want to check out chat um oh hi josh says what about see sonic see sonic i don't know i like i i see their behavior as building quality products and standing behind them but i don't like know that many people there like our rep is amazing he's like the coolest guy ever and if he was the ceo of the company i'd be like yeah because he is based but i i don't know the like senior leadership there the way that i do knock to our falcon or puget where i've like actually met them and had conversations with them um yeah what else is here but yeah not much man bits of bits says what about ltd store i hear those guys are a thing this might uh be spooky but no really yeah okay for the exact same reason i already gave the perverse incentives you mean yeah yeah they are impossible to 100 get rid of in my opinion tell me something tell me something because what i'll say is i wouldn't publish that i wouldn't publish it if it was good and I wouldn't publish it if it was bad so for that is this part of why so for that reason if I was to publish it do you think I would question my motivation I would question your motivation I think there are motivations that could exist that would make me fairly strongly believe it sure like there'd have to be a reason like why am I why am I talking about you know our expenses well there's a reason there's because somebody has raised this as a thing you're not going to win that war with the cables?

3:23:53no with the because

3:24:00because you're trying to win a questioning war with transparency but legally cannot be I don't think you can no I can't be fully transparent but what i can say is objectively we are making the investments that people seem to think that we're not but then there's there's but this is the problem because the the questions are infinite and then and your problem is if there is a question at all on the internet you'll find it oh yeah and then that bothers um i mean i think i've said about as much as there is to say at this point okay for this one um you know the the simple fact is that whether it's through hiring more support or whether it's through scaling salaries we have in spite of in spite of stagnant revenue over the last few years and declining profits we have continued to invest in both and you would never in a thousand years pry the exact reasons out of me for any single employee's, you know, pay scaling.

3:25:10In fact, in most cases, this may surprise you. He doesn't know. I don't do everything and I don't even know, right? And so you would never, you'd never get that out of me because you shouldn't. Yeah, no, I agree. To force it back to the topic at hand. This is part of the reason for my comment about the CW stuff. It has genuinely nothing negative to do with CW. yeah my the reason for that comment for me is that it it scales into everything and that included my own and that's how i view cw is not mine but that's how i that's how i viewed it in that context was like i would still question it because like the second you start getting into distributed work which is like any company ever that has employees um there's weird stuff going on there's weird stuff going on everywhere and like what if someone's goals very nobly is like hey let's get failure rate down let's make the products more reliable yeah and one of the ways that they can get their bonus or whatever is by being like numbers 1 % higher nice got it yeah stuff might happen and I'd have no way of knowing that like I could stand here and I could I could pass information along to you guys that I might not even know is bad.

3:26:31And I love the CW people. They're great. Yeah. But just like any company, people come in, people leave. Yeah. Things change. Yeah. So like, I don't know. I don't know, man. Like I'm sitting here going like, and it's hard to divorce ourselves. I am asking zero people to blindly trust the information from labs. Yeah. And I never have. Well, we've always said you should get multiple sources. And that's the inherent problem here is there is no multiple source. Exactly. I'm falling back to the same argument we have always fallen back to. But it's hard to divorce myself from personal trust. If Kyle told me, I would believe him.

3:27:16But that's a different thing. But I shouldn't. Well. Because maybe he, maybe, maybe. There's a required efficiency in order to live in a certain amount of trust in people around you. And I think in your situation... But not just that, I think he's earned it. He doesn't hide things from me. I don't find out about things later. Particularly with Kyle, but I'm talking about from the perspective of an audience member. And I can't tell that audience member to do that. No, yeah, no, you're right. If I'm trying to give this audience member, I think the modern people say chat. If I'm trying to give chat good advice on how to like, you know, approach things and conduct themselves and whatnot.

3:28:00Yeah. Blindly believe us because we're cool company is like not the line. We'd never say that. But that's my point. So it's no slight against CW. Again, I'm pointing at labs. Don't blindly believe stuff from labs either. Get multiple sources. And this is because I'm trying to be consistent. Yeah, multiple sources. And also, I mean, logicing your way through things is also good to understanding like I've always I've always told people when I talk about negotiations is like understand both sides of the table or you have absolutely no shot whatsoever of reaching any kind of meaningful agreement. Right.

3:28:38Right. And it's the it's it's it's like it's the same when you're just when you're trying to understand why people are doing the things that they're doing. I think it's very easy to assume that someone is doing something because they're a malicious monster or because they're a big dummy or whatever. But most of the time, that's not the case. So if we so if we sit and we go, OK, you know. What would be his motivation for representing this failure rate? or this data in this particular way, I think it can help us. And maybe that's where the context of the conversation comes in. Because if someone is trying to - What is the goals around this?

3:29:24Yeah, if they're trying to impress you with how much loss they've absorbed this quarter, if it's a game of one-upmanship, then if anything, you might think they might exaggerate it. Whereas if they're trying to sell you a big contract to use their systems, the last thing that they're going to want to bring up is that 50 % of the SSDs they're using have failed in the last quarter. If someone's trying to sell their company, they want it to look like an extremely well-oiled machine with low failure rates. If someone's trying to get sympathy from their customers, they might try to point that their failure rates are really high because their quality control is really high.

3:29:57There are reasons all over the place, all over the place, constantly, that yeah especially the I was going to say especially bigger companies because there are like smaller factions with their own goals that the people you might know might not even know those people exist that are causing things to kind of happen within these spaces and it gets a little bit crazy So yeah, I don't know. You could use it as information. Yeah, there you go. You could use it as information. I would prefer if it came from more than one source. So like if a company claimed that they had something going on, oh, our devices fail only 3 % of the time after four years or two years or something.

3:30:52Neat. That sounds cool. I'm not going to put a ton of stock into that. And then if a third party source, if a creator, YouTube creator, whatever comes out there, or a retailer if project farm rips their thing apart for whatever reason sure uh i'm gonna put more weight on that right okay and but that doesn't necessarily mean a non-tech creator the exact numbers right right like like if if amd were to say our cpu failure rates are less than one percent and then like a retailer were to come out and say yeah we get less than two percent returns and most of them still work that would it would reinforce it at least even if it doesn't mean that i believe 100 but i was actually i was i was gonna i was gonna bring this up you said you know something about putting more stock in it and that reminded me like some of these companies are public companies on the subject of stock and there's in theory legal ramifications for lying to investors for instance would you would you believe it anymore if in addressing this Ryzen CPUs are dying thing that AMD on a quarterly call said we've investigated it and we've found that it's actually a failure rate of less than 0.1 % and we are still going to investigate it but it's a relatively isolated issue.

3:32:11Would you believe it even a little bit more knowing the potential legal ramifications around it? If a whistleblower were to come out and say that that's not actually what happened. I don't think so. is that just because of the current zero consequences environment thousand percent yeah yeah nothing happens when companies do that so i i wouldn't believe it if if if things did then then yeah um also i i've heard this is true i'm not even trying to get political um and i've heard this is just like in the in the business world like something you should do but um i'm not into it uh not not nai nai to han nai to han um said trump did this with his properties forbes calls it's worth so much put me on your super wealthy list whatever irs calls the building's falling apart it's so worthless you should probably charge me less taxes because the property value is lower and like this is he used trump in that example brother that's people be doing that that's one of the few things that i've believed that that man has said over the last decade or so yeah and tons of other people that everybody know that everybody does that oh yeah yeah yeah totally like he said everyone does it and i was like yeah probably yeah like actually um

3:33:33we have one more topic spacex is acquiring ai startup xai yeah ahead of a potential ipo yes yeah so that we can build um data centers in space well okay do you know i know it's less stupid than it sounds uh that wasn't where i was going oh okay uh do you know the money circle with open ai and oracle and uh nvidia and uh whoever else this is like that but like it's just it's just his own money circle yes i know yeah um but also orbital data centers cool nice solar power sick just to hope that you don't have to swap a ram stick dude astronaut it people aj in space aj in space I think AJ would go to space if we really needed him to.

3:34:30He probably would. I think he probably would. Based. Yeah. Oh, no key reminded me that a project farm actually, uh, did another roundup video that featured one of our products. Uh, this time our precision screwdriver set, which is now our precision pro by the way. Um, yeah, included a whole bunch of other ones. Once again, we scored extremely well. I mean, you should obviously watch the whole video, but, uh, yeah, I don't, yeah. the tldr is we're up here a lot of the things that matter to me a lot we actually scored really well in coming first for subjective rating of the swivel end cap first for how comfortable and natural the screwdriver feels in the hand first for overall storage case rating for bit retention organization and durability and first for bit retention strength um so holding on to the bit so that they don't come popping out if you pull the screwdriver back and they're kind of like stuck in a screw a little bit.

3:35:30One of the areas where we fell short was in the durability of the bits under high pressure. That was an active decision. It's one that not everyone will agree with, but I had issues breaking bits from other screwdriver sets before. And when I talked to the team about it, they basically went, well, okay, better steel is not necessarily a thing. it's do you want a harder steel it's what properties are you looking or do you want like a uh i forget what the advantages of the slightly soft it's oh right it's whether they'll bend or whether they will snap um will they stay the same shape until they snap or will they bend a little bit before they break and be less likely to snap and with a precision set we ultimately made the decision to go with one that would not snap under duress um and that's not a decision that absolutely everyone will agree with yeah but it is one that we made nice um so yeah it's always very cool to see todd's extremely creative uh testing methodologies he really does have kind of a way of bringing things into the real world.

3:36:43Whether I necessarily agree with absolutely everything he does, I would say no. I thought the laptop drop test onto the bar was a little questionable. I think we performed really well in it with the backpack video that he did a little while ago. I like that his testing is like that, though. But what I was going to say is that much like we always say to get multiple perspectives, I think Todd's perspective is extremely valuable. Completely. Yeah. Yeah. And that has... I think just inherently in the way that he does his tests, there's some that are going to be imperfect. And I think that's awesome.

3:37:24And I don't think... I don't desire a change there at all, personally. And I do know that. P Kinetic says, if your bits are either stripping or snapping, isn't that a sign that something ain't right? Yes. Which is exactly why I didn't want to go the snapping route, because you should never be putting that much force on a precision screwdriver bit. Yes, yes, yes. The one time I managed to destroy a bunch of precision bits, and I admit I went through more than I would like to admit, was on some Apple device that had some hidden something that made it so that even though it seemed like it should go, it didn't until you like unlocked something or something.

3:38:10I forget the exact details, but that was the experience that I had that made me ultimately choose not to go for the snapping kind because a piece went flying off of it. And I was like, oh, that's probably not that great. Bits of Bits in Floatplane chat said, I just make my bits into bits so they become bits of bits. That's a bit crazy. I'm sorry, I can't get behind that. After Dark? Yeah, it's After Dark. Let's go, boys. Let's go.

3:38:45Let's go like Unk slang now. I think it is. Probably. Yeah. Nice. Chad, is that real? I mean, I'm 35, so it's probably fine. Solid. I, it's just, yeah. I've seen that stuff, and I'm just like, man, I don't care. Yeah. Yeah, I am. Nice. Yeah, sweet. Sounds good. Yeah, exactly. Sweet. I have no desire to change that. I'm probably going to stay sweet forever. Cool. Yeah. That's what it is. I would have this. Oh, sorry. Do you want some more? No. I don't know why I voiced my internal observation I'm on my fourth I think I'm thirsty today I might have a disorder I probably do What's up boys? Do all of you have eight sleep?

3:39:33Would you recommend it and how do you guys like it? I have one It's kind of a lifesaver From everything that I've seen externally They seem to be like kind of a horrible company They seem to be a horrible company they seem to have horrible practices and one of mine died once they did send me a new one but i couldn't tell you for sure whether that was just because i'm an influencer i sleep a lot more comfortably on it i sleep a lot more comfortably on it if mine dies and i were to have to buy another one i'm going to really hope there are good competitors and i can leave but if there wasn't yeah i don't know because it really does help a lot i cook and uh the partner does not hear me out and this is a pretty common occurrence waterbed one side waterbed waterbed with a heated blanket under her

3:40:41i think you'd buy one again maybe there's alternatives if there was no other choice there's there's no there's no other choice it really has done a lot for me i i could do it again i think if it came down to it what i would really hope to do is remember that project where somebody figured out how to like hack it to make it local is i would put like a bounty out there to get that going again i think that's what i would do oh yeah i had to reset your uh your background i'm sorry about that linus

3:41:21all right uh do you make dual zone heated mattresses the problem is that is like the opposite of the point yeah he needs it cooled i need it she needs it heated it has to be able to do both in the winter i was running on they have this thing where it can like track your body heat and and do whatever i turned that off or didn't subscribe to it or something i don't have that running i just have it pinned to the lowest possible temperature it can go all of the time and do that in the winter he's a warm boy and i still sometimes wake up like it's it's surely time says hear me out separate beds like no no there's no way i i man i yvonne and i have like talked about this and i don't think we've ever actually reached a conclusion for how bad like tossing and turning or snoring or something would have to be for us to sleep in separate beds like It is a key part of being a couple.

3:42:28There's no way I could be convinced. Bamboo cooling sheets, trust me, bro. Yeah, I did. I did trust people who suggested that at one point in time. Trust me. They're not magic. Trust me, bro. They're not magic. I be cooking, okay?

3:42:46Yeah, the almighty Q says, my wife is a popsicle and i'm a human heater i feel you this is the standard yeah you got you got generic generic packaged letter a yeah all right more yes what's up calm gobblers my calm gobbler quote-unquote girlfriend instantly fixed the tv after i had floundered for an hour and i'm slow down slow down is that what we've done by calling them comms what do you mean calm gobbler dan did you not even understand what you were saying you have he did there's no way he is look at the look on his face see that's the look that's the look of a man who knew exactly what he was doing my calm gobbler in brackets girlfriend is crazy he actually looks like He actually looks like this meme.

3:43:46Which one is it? I can't believe that was actually typed. I can't do his voice. He actually did this. He's this mad.

3:44:03Do you have any similar stories about your... Sorry. She fixed the TV after I had floundered for an hour. And I was embarrassed. Do you have any similar stories of your partners out teching you? Yeah, Emma goes, who's the tech boyfriend now? That's her line. Look at me, I'm the tech boyfriend now. My daughter forgot her PIN on a Samsung phone and forgot the password for the Samsung account. And I said, this is going to be more trouble than it's worth. And it's going to cost more to fix than this older phone is probably worth. I just, I can't be bothered. And Yvonne goes... Just reset it? No, no, you can reset it.

3:44:42unless she was like, I'm going to go to a kiosk in the mall and I'm going to see if they can do it. And they did it and it was like 50 bucks, 75, something like that. And I was like, you were right, I was wrong. There I said it. I would not have expected that to work. It worked. It turns out that our whole security, it's tied to our account. Nobody should steal it because it's tied to my account. Thing is all completely made up. All make believe. Yep. Yep. Cool. Linus, since you have recent experience in oral care, I wanted to get your opinion on this. I asked my dentist why they still pull teeth with pliers, and he replied, how would you innovate oral care?

3:45:25Yeah, that's a really great question. It really is a very, very unpleasant experience getting teeth out. But if anything, I would say it would be kind of cool if they had something that really shaped around the tooth so that it grabbed it better. Because when they slip or break it off, I don't know, beyond little drones that fly in your mouth and blast it out with lasers or something, I don't really see how you can innovate on rip a thing out of a jawbone. you've had teeth out you were awake for your wisdom teeth right no oh you went yeah they were like no you need to oh because mine were coming in like this way one of those coming in like totally sideways yeah um and i got all four at once right okay i said that i didn't want to do it and the guy was like no all right solid um oh you were impacted yeah i don't i don't really remember the details he uh he was rather convincing to the point where if i wrote correctly he like wasn't gonna do it um yeah cool yeah he explained why he had to like i don't know but it was because it was mainly because the one of them was coming in like completely sideways and he's like yeah it's just like not cool this has to be you're gonna go down and i was like okay i wonder how many people like a thousand years ago like how many people just died of their mouth getting horribly infected and it spreading to their brain a lot like just i mean the the primary reason why i had to do it was because that thing coming in the way that it was yeah meant that it was impossible to get a toothbrush back there yeah so there was like your mouth would just start rotting out eventually and then you then that's bad yeah um yeah it's kind of crazy because like anything that goes wrong with your body after your prime childbearing years whatever like it has it has no there's no evolutionary disadvantage to it so who cares if your teeth become mangled at 40 you already spread your seed or you know did the things yep yep cool hey lld com check for your home servers what is your normal complement of virtual machines or containers to run i just have like a desktop os and plex and that's pretty much all i do with mine i have not actually dabbled much yet it's mostly been desktop os's um but i will be running image um once i'm switched over once hex os goes out of alpha investment disclosure i'm super excited for just simpler setup and and playing around with a whole bunch of stuff when i can oh i have a home assistant uh vm as well i've i've almost always only had one system so a lot of things were just running on the same system that i did everything else with um and usually i just lived by myself so the impact of that on anyone else was zero so if i had to restart my computer it's like well yeah whatever sup i'm lld i love the screwdrivers i've lost and broken a few at work a magnetite mine the devil's magnetite sounds cool it's like ferris sounds like mcu stuff magnetite strongly magnetic ion oxide mineral.

3:49:08Cool. Yeah.

3:49:13Why did you invert the mechanism from how every other screwdriver I guess like changes the direction and how often am I supposed to clean the dirt out of the ratchet? Okay, you're not supposed to get dirt in the ratchet. But I admit that we never thought of IP rating it. the magnets in the screwdriver just want to return to their families right yeah that makes a ton of sense actually uh i i i don't i literally don't i don't know if i don't know if you can do that that um wow didn't think of that as for why we inverted it uh it's because we're not the only ones snap-on also goes the same direction that we do and to me it was always more intuitive to go this is the direction i am screwing in this is the direction i am unscrewing right now and so we actually put significant time and money and energy into a perfectly good ratchet ratchet um selector mechanism from mega pro that i really really really really really wanted to go the other way because i liked it better that way

3:50:32sorry correct call i'm glad you like it dan i guess reach out to support if you want cleaning insight i really don't know if i don't even think that's possible yeah well yeah how much did it cost to make modified molds for the floatplane screwdriver kit and will it be around for a while in order to justify said molds i'm randomly curious cheaper than you'd think the molds for the og screwdriver were really expensive like over a hundred thousand dollars for all the molds in fact like a lot over a hundred thousand dollars i'm rusty on the numbers but a lot um the molds for the precision screwdriver were done over in china instead of by um itd here locally so i think it was like a couple grand i was told the number for like sure the the plate with the logo Do you want me to say that one?

3:51:23If I remember correctly, it was 500 bucks. I don't believe you. I need multiple sources. That was the only reason that I had you say it, just because I wanted to set that up. I mean, it's a good point though, because I am probably someone who heard from someone who heard from someone. So like. Etzelm says, China owns your molds now. And that is exactly the trade-off. So you get something made onshore here, you own it. I own that mold for the OG screwdriver. And that's really, really important for a product that I really don't want to be copied. However, the molding for a casing for what is the real product is a lot less important to me.

3:52:08I think it would be harder for someone to replicate the user experience of the precision screwdriver simply by having the mold for the plastic shell that sits around it. We're talking specifically this. Yeah, this piece. So that's why we make strategic decisions about where we are going to make our molds depending on what their purpose is. The OG screwdriver also needed to be useful for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of cycles. And a better quality mold will last longer before it needs to be remade. that i don't know a few thousand we're not going to make a ton of those so it's just not as important that it's a super high quality mold that we we own forever

3:53:00603 asks how long is it going to be available i don't know it depends on how it sells and it depends on how many we bought and i don't know either of those things right now if you want one buy it. So like, I, we always go through this when stuff comes in on LTT store and it's like, people forget sometimes that we are still a relatively small company in the grand scheme of things, especially when you consider how much stuff we do, like how many SKUs we have. Like we will, we'll bring in a shirt that it turns out we got wrong and we're moving like one unit every three days. So then we'll, we'll put it on sale and during a big promo and we'll sell through them all and we'll go oh thank god they're gone and then we'll have people crawling out of the woodwork going oh i i was i i i wanted to buy one of those i was saving up for that i'm like bro that's like i i'm sorry i can't i can't do an entire like 4 000 unit order so that you can have one when you like you missed it i because they'll i'll it'll take me like four years to sell through them like i can't do that sorry hi lld one for linus how do you want for me do we have any for luke i feel like i've done all of them nope none i don't know i didn't scroll through it oh i got one for luke yeah let's do one for luke sure hi lld actually this one's for linus no uh hi from san diego if the open ai bubble crash were to be controlled implosion where would they actually split up is the name brand all that's left other models are better and i i it's cut off a bit probably profitable and profitable other models are better and profitable is it nameland the name brand of open ai is worth a lot i think so too chat gpt the name brand of chat gpt somebody said in float Chat.

3:54:54ChatGPT. I'm gonna chat it. It's actually crazy, yeah. And it's ChatGPT. Shut up. I didn't know that. We're that part of culture now. We verbed it like Googling? Yeah, I'm gonna chat it. And it's chat. That's the stupidest thing ever. Is that true? Hey, chat, is that true? Like, actually, though, I don't know. Somebody said that randomly. Yeah, it's called chat now. Wow. I prefer Jippity. That's a yeah it's a youtube creator thing uh a a friend a queen's friend whatever you want to call it um came up with consulting the sands and i like that a lot that's always been my favorite one i will consult the sands i say talking to my parrot according to chat gpt users have started calling chat gpt simply chat because it's short and rolls off the tongue yeah that's rough i like consultant new sands it's far from short but i like that it doesn't it keeps the idea of the fact that you're just asking a computer chip like right at the core of it and i love that like it's it's actually it's it's by far my favorite one i did not come up with it but uh that's my favorite one i will consult the sands It also sounds like epic.

3:56:19Yeah. But it's like the opposite of that. And then can you like set the font? And then you could consult the Comic Sans.

3:56:32yep you're on fire tonight we're gonna wear this bell okay few left few left few left let's see howdy boys this is a quick one for linus how much longer do you have to deal with those braces

3:56:52um it's still yellow sometimes when i eat curry my god what i like curry yeah well i might have curry tonight just to spite you a little bit brother no i'm not that better now you guys They're yellow bro Get a different color get something that won't stain It's actually crazy Purple I'm supposed to be the one that doesn't care About my appearance I mean look Damn he can't go He can't go and shave Put on a different shirt Linus Change your teeth I was thinking about maybe on the last one The fact that we don't change them in even thumbnails is crazy to me. I'll get like, I'll get like green and pink ones.

3:57:37I'll go Lambo for the last one. I, in fact, I was going to do it on not the last one, but the previous elastic change. And then the reason I didn't is that right now I'm using what they call a power chain. So instead of having just individual elastics on each tooth, it's just one big chain all the way across the bottom, all the way across the top and a lot of the bottom right now. So what I had wanted to do was like uh green on my canines and then pink everywhere else but it was not meant to be unfortunately i don't know man i just don't they still bother me a lot in terms of the pain slicing up the inside of my lips and all that but they don't really bother me in terms of like the jaw ache or the um like the look or the talking you know it's funny the mics on the tonight show I felt like picked it up a lot worse or I was just nervous or something, but I don't notice it as much in our regular videos as I did when I was watching that.

3:58:33I feel like, I don't know if this impacts it. I feel like you were talking a lot that day because I started noticing it happening more as the day progressed. It happens more when my lips are really sore and really cut up. Oh, dude, I got the most, I'm still dealing with chapped lips from that trip. So like, oh, I'm talking about on the inside. Oh. and so sometimes it'll get like a really deep cut and then it'll catch on the bottom of the thing every time my lip slides up which happens which happens way more in speech than you realize yeah which i know because now i'm acutely aware of it every single time it happens right yeah yes i know about i know about the wax but i'm just add as fuck and it's hard to remember to carry it with me and put it back on and take it off before i eat or just eat it and then put it back on after i eat it's just a whole thing man um anyway it's just this one yeah they actually remounted this bracket on the lower left canine last time i was in uh moving it over theoretically that's supposed to be one of the benefits of these ceramic braces that this particular system is that you don't have to remount brackets but i did so they remounted this one and they're trying to turn this one and so most of it has made really good progress and like i don't know i think all right looks pretty straight now right it's pretty lined up well there's that one that's twisted like 15 degrees off that i might be waiting waiting waiting waiting for us to turn because they can't turn it too fast would you ever take the top row off but leave the bottom uh i would my ortho won't okay so it's not a thing apparently weird but this is the same ortho that wouldn't even work on them until i got my wisdom teeth out which other orthos did not say the same thing so it's not like that's just standard practice but they were rated really well and unlike the other one that i got a quote from they didn't want to pull any of my non-wisdom teeth one of the other ones wanted to pull a tooth from the bottom because of this crowding issue and i'd just have me have a middle tooth and i was like buddy we're not doing that no yeah you know what's funny though is i was like upset about him saying that i should do that but i actually it took me years and my wife pointing out to me that she has one tooth out and that her her smile is offset oh i don't actually necessarily care about that have you ever noticed just no yeah and i don't care about that part that wasn't my point i just if you don't have to pull my teeth out i'm gonna rather not yeah that was my only yeah yeah tom cruise tom cruise has a cricket smile He's got a center top tooth.

4:01:15Shut up. You will never not be able to notice it. Tom Cruise middle tooth. I think I could not notice it because I know about my wife's one and I still don't notice it. He totally does. Oh my God, he does. What? I'm sorry for anybody who didn't know this. No, I'm just never going to care. That's fun trivia. Oh my God, it's like right dead center.

4:01:41That's crazy. I'm not gonna lie to me it just looks like his mouth is turned to the side all the time because like I think it looks like he has two primary teeth in the front they're just shifted to the side yeah pretty much okay that hurts to see yeah wow I just don't care I don't yeah i don't know more more merch messages that are now check out messages you'll get there eventually still getting used to it i'm gonna screw it up at some point because all over my screen it says merch messages yeah so we'll get that fixed hi lld one for linus how do you keep from becoming overwhelmed by challenges and burden of running a company any tips tricks or thoughts to share uh god i wish i had that's always something man it's always something like i i forget who was in my office but i was just like they were giving me some kind of bad news and i was just like can i just you know life is already hard mode right for everyone for everyone i'm not special right like my life is not special hard if anything i've been i've been very blessed very lucky very privileged in a lot of ways um but life in general it's pve pvp pve all the things it's it's it's it's tough life is life is hard and i i just i kind of like like i wasn't i wasn't yelling at them but i was like i was kind of doing the thing where i like talk very animatedly like i'm hosting but in a one-on-one conversation that's like just kind of almost like shrek style like could just could just nothing go wrong for five minutes you know can we just have can we just have everything operate normally and you know i just i just come into the office and ever and like there's no tech company you know sending us a broken sample or no you know someone dropped a camera or you know like whatever for just could we just have a smooth operation you know what i think it might have been it might have been when the the ram apocalypse started happening because it was right on the heels of us making the msrp pc and i was i was just like for for for five minutes Could the industry just, just off and let me talk about how cool the stuff they make is?

4:04:36Can we just chill, you know? And the answer is no. And, um, and I think the only way that I managed to keep from being overwhelmed is remembering why we do it. and it's for magic moments like, you know, seeing longtime employees who I've known since they were young and childless bring their kids and, you know, sitting on Santa's lap at the Christmas party or, you know, whether it's someone, you know, sending me a little message after hours or having a quick chat with me in the parking lot telling me like, oh, you know, I got a new car, you know, that kind of thing or I bought a house or, you know, whatever it is.

4:05:27We had, we've had some people be injured over the last little while, like not at work, but, you know, hey, I, you know, used the benefits program in this way or that way. And that really helped, you know, you know, why do we, why do we do it? And the answer always has to be people because if it's not, then you're not going to be able to keep it up. man it's been really nice for physio i've i found a physio like my guess is three years ago at this point who like i actually really jive with and every time i've gone to him i've needed to see him once for the thing that is like a problem and he'll give me like a piece of paper with all the instructions and then i actually do it i never have to see him again and until a year later well until the next thing comes up but like it's it's not the same thing oh i see what you mean yeah and he's freaking awesome and i've never had to pay for it which has been sick or like you know you pay the little thing but yeah yeah but it's like a token almost um yeah like someone at one of the one of the pool parties at my place in the summer um someone was talking about their adult uh braces journey and we don't do full coverage for braces but we do cover a very significant amount of it and it was like yeah this was like why i was able to do it and i'm like that is cool you know yeah i mean it's not cool it's adult braces but but but it's something the end result i'm allowed to say they're not cool i have them

4:07:00hi dll how would you guys tackle cooling a pc with outside air in an insulated workshop using the positive pressure created as the main form of ventilation absolutely love the products have to save oh they bought a gift card I was going to say they bought a save up for something else yeah can we fix that truncation thing or is that user error where people are like it definitely tells you how many characters you have left I have done that when I've replied occasionally yeah but can you type past the amount yeah maybe we could maybe we could stop them or something just an idea Yeah, it's happened twice tonight.

4:07:42It doesn't happen very often at all. Cooling a PC with outside air. Yeah, it does stop. Using the positive pressure created... Maybe it's a mobile thing? ...as the main form of ventilation. So it sounds like you want to put your PC's intake on the air intake for your workshop?

4:08:10sorry i'm trying to wrap my brain around this using the positive pressure created as the main form of ventilation so it sounds like you just need like a room ventilation fan and then you just need to like put a duct on the back of your pc and then on the front of your pc and then put the vent fan maybe you'd have to have two maybe you'd have to have like an assist motor so you'd have one like right at the vent and it blows into the pc and then one on the other side of the pc or something honestly this sounds like more work than it's probably worth is what i am thinking right now and luke doesn't seem to care he's doing something else entirely uh yeah he's on reddit yeah classic luke well i'm looking into a link that was linked They were trying to tag you in full plane chat, so I was checking to see if you should see it, and somebody made, somebody, as far as I can tell, vibe-coded the app that you asked for.

4:09:10Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, that's hilarious. So I was checking it out. Okay. That was fast. Yeah. Hey, LLD, as a fellow workaholic, how do you balance work without ignoring your significant other? Start a company with her. Not financial advice. Actually not advice. we made it work but it was not always easy lots of tears

4:09:39uh have a very understanding partner no i'll none of this is advice okay i also have a technique oh no no break up and then it won't be a problem at all three not answers oh my god that was horrible oh man that was like what's that that was just everything got progressively worse the whole time.

4:10:27I shouldn't have talked. Isn't that like a storytelling technique? Like escalation? Something like that.

4:10:40I don't know. Yeah, I can't find it. All right, hit me. Hit me with a product message. Maybe don't ask us about work stuff. We don't know. We're all weird. Last one I have. They're not going to stop. I know. The last one I've got, I am in the process of building my ultimate PC. Singularity computer's case. Hell yeah. Double loop 5090. Holy crap. Hand-picked components. Only la crème de la crème. Should I go for the 9800 3XD or rather 9950 3XD? Okay. Normally, I wouldn't do this. 3DX. Normally, I wouldn't do this. but it seems to me that this looks like it's going to be a real product i don't actually have any inside knowledge but there is there was rumored to be a 9950 x3d 2 and the difference between this and the uh the 9950 x3d um is that both of the ccds will have 3d vcash um which means that you will never have to worry about the issue that people run into on the current flagship, the current 16-core flagship, where occasionally a gaming thread will end up on the wrong die, and you can experience slightly reduced performance in those cases, which is why the 9850X3D or previously the 9800X3D were like the gaming flagship.

4:12:16but this new one looks like it should be zero compromise um so make of that what you will but i have no confirmation when it will arrive if it didn't arrive if this is for gaming then i would probably go 9850 x3d it's the fastest gaming cpu but because you've gone 5090 I assume you're going to get a high resolution monitor, which means you are never going to notice that your CPU is slightly faster. And on that note, we'll see you again next week. Same bedtime, same bedtime. Bye.

4:13:15God bless you