Our Cable Launch Went TOO GOOD - WAN Show January 30, 2026

53:57And also, they didn't say this, but that might be what they meant. I'm not sure.

54:04If they said that, that's crazy. I doubt it. I doubt it. I don't think they did. More bad news. LG subscription program for audio-visual devices. LG launched a new subscription program called LG Flex in the UK. Whoa. In the UK for premium devices such as TV, soundbars, monitors, and speakers. They have partnered up with Raylo, which offers subscription services for other brands such as Dyson, Apple, and Nintendo. I've never even heard of this. Me neither. Is that a UK thing? What the devil is Raylo? LG Flex subscribers can opt for a one to three year subscription with longer terms having a lower monthly payment.

54:43At the end of the term, the customer can decide to get a free upgrade with a new subscription. That's not free. with a new subscription, keep paying monthly or return the device to leave. Oh, to leave the subscription terms, I guess. Ars Technica calculated that under a three-year plan, the subscription would cost more than buying a TV after 27 months. Okay, so here. Here's a Nintendo Switch 2 refurbished. Oh, very good. Raylo certified refurbished. Okay, very good. 36 months would cost me 11 pounds 99 a month okay calculatrice so 12 times 36 is 432 pounds nintendo switch 2 refurbished uh no no i'm gonna compare to brand new okay i because i'm curious smith's smith's toys is this a uk thing no idea sure i'm happy it has a little banner like you see that little dark pattern there yes i'm happy yeah what was that it was a cookie banner yeah it was a cookie banner yikes wow that's a yikes 385 brand new not refurbished oops what did i do here what were you calculating uh cool yep there's your problem right there there you go 432 so literally i could get the nintendo switch to mario kart world bundle so you get a game so if i plan to have this thing for three years then i should not do this and you could buy a snack you could get the console a game and a snack and own all of those you know you might eat the snack but you could own all of those forever this one's so weird i know that carrier subsidies for phones are not as much of a thing yeah like overseas but as someone where who grew up with carrier subsidized phones where you effectively pay for the phone monthly anyway seeing buying like a non-carrier locked phone.

56:56For like the price of what a plane used to be? Yeah, yeah. It's like what? Like I used to get I used to get stuff with this along with the phone. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So this would cost me like a couple hundred bucks a year for an S24 Ultra. That doesn't actually seem that bad. The iPhone seemed like though you might not own it at the end you have to give it back yeah there's no there's no not giving it well okay hold on this is another one we actually shot a video on this week i don't know if you know this but um oh yeah yeah i remember now yeah you could you you you only get to keep it if you just keep paying monthly i don't think they have like a pay the rest and buy out so we actually did a video on this this week hp has a rent your rental laptop service now yep so hold on wait one of the hold on relax uh one of the skews um comes with a sim card and your rental includes your data plan for it it includes uh next day on-site service and you can just apply for an upgrade so when we were looking at it we compared it a couple of different ways we compared it to buying the device outright and like where's your like where's your break-even point there right and then we also compared it to reselling where's your break-even point if you resell your old device and then the last one that we looked at was okay um but what if you are like a frequent what if what if you're a frequent upgrader and you would be like buying a new device and then we looked at it both in terms of if you right right right if we've looked at it in terms of you resold and in terms of like if you didn't if you repurposed um there are skews that we've looked at and we went, okay, this might not be absolutely crazy depending on who you are and what exactly it is that you're trying to accomplish.

59:14If you're someone who is not tech savvy, does not want to deal with buy, sell, trade, and just wants a working laptop all the time, there's like one SKU that is like a pretty decent laptop and comes with the data plan and like could potentially make sense. And it seems like HP kind of figured out that the value was too good for some of them. And the other program for gaming laptops that they launched later, it was pretty hard for us to find anything that made any sense. Have I been a good boy? Can I respond now? Yeah, you can do whatever you want. Free country. That's honestly pretty much all I have to say.

59:56Yeah. Thank you. as long as you can count on them to keep the price the same then it's great except well yeah yeah this exhibit a um however however we actually found that the best deal was to rent it for a year return it and then buy the same one after it had depreciated for a year which is interesting that's kind of funny just so that is kind of funny however however however however we found that the pricing for this particular model on the buy it outright so your compare at uh was felt really high compared to what we could find this particular laptop for in the used market today so basically what i'm trying to say is your point isn't invalid and this whole you'll own nothing and you'll like it thing is toxic but that doesn't mean that there might not be deals out there and we should be open to something that's a better deal and then immediately closed once it isn't a better deal if if there isn't a reasonable alternative and i don't feel like they're going out of their way to make it so that there isn't a reasonable alternative and it takes constant upkeep a subscription is fine to me yeah but in a lot of cases that's not it's like the the heated seat subscription like no you can just leave that could just be a button you don't need to constant upkeep that that is unnecessary that should not be a subscription go away and it depends on and it depends on how you use it too like if i used game pass to play a whole bunch of single player games over the span of a year and then i canceled my game pass subscription it could be a freaking great value you're playing an entire single player game a month yep it's probably still not that bad no yeah however if you're playing playing new ones i don't know if microsoft is publishing new full fat triple a titles once a month well yeah but you might have a backlog it like true you check out what's on games are not going to be that high value when it's at 30 usd a month however however if you're the kind of person who no life's one game for six months at a time it's crazy to be paying for game pass.

1:02:21Right? So it's like, I'm just saying, you know, horses for courses. Sometimes something can be a really great value. And then the next month it can't be. And we just have to have the discipline to cut off that subscription when it's not a good value anymore, but that's how they get you. Right? That's the lock-in that they want. They want the laziness lock-in, if that makes sense yeah i'd never heard of this relo thing before but uh oh man this is always funny to me 4.5 stars on trust pilot it's not clickable okay is it though relo trust pilot is trust pilot one of those ones that it's basically just like you bribe them to have a good score i don't know okay okay they do have 4.5 stars on trust but how do they have 21 000 reviews and they're all five star do we believe it no not all okay not all do we believe this though i mean i don't it came next day promptly it was in pristine condition wrapped up perfectly feel happy with the phone it's a perfect gift to my kid bro who's been down these days hope it will lift his spirits There is no way that this is real.

1:03:35Is there some reward for leaving Trustpilot reviews? This reviewer was automatically invited to write a review following their experience with the company. This type of review is automatically labeled verified. Automatically. Good service. Is that a link? Deliver on time. This one I actually believe. I believe that one. I believe this one. Yep.

1:04:04Why would you leave a four-star review? And this is the only thing you had to say about it.

1:04:13I kind of might believe Janine's one as well. Sorted my problem I had. I'm very grateful for the help and understanding. They were problem solved. And very nice was the manager. I don't know, dude. That does not sound like an LLM output. No, but it's shocking to me. Oh, check her history. Yeah. Yeah, I'm about to. It's shocking to me how much spam doesn't seem to use an LLM output. Like, the number of bots that are not writing like people. Might be more expensive. I guess. Why bother? All right. If it's working anyways. All right, Janine. So, four days ago on Trustpilot. Very understanding and compassionate.

1:04:54Very efficient and lovely friendly. Just so positive. Of Lowell? What is Lowell? debt collecting no f***ing way is brutal no way there's no way no shot let's keep going we look too far into the abyss let's keep going the next one okay so very adjective and adjective very adjective and And a couple more adjectives. Lovely friendly is great. For more than.com. I'm going to use lovely friendly often. Insurance agency.

1:05:41Oh, this is so paid. So paid. You just reviewed a device rental company, an insurance agency, and a debt collector. Four stars or more. These are the four star reviews that are designed to make the five stars seem plausible, brother. There is just no way that this is a real person. Sorry. I would like to see more. There's a three. Every.

1:06:20Just ring doorbell once and don't bat on the door loudly. It frightens me. what are you talking about they just want the person to ring the doorbell once not like because it scared them logistic service come on now it's just esl stuff uh no it's not this is not a real person okay i'm sorry there's no way sure but like that sentence is you know there's no way this is real

1:06:50uh also like okay what's her first language well okay i i have some familiarity with the patterns that you might see in written language for various first languages most of the people i've encountered whose english second language looks like this do not look like this. I can tell you that much.

1:07:25Origins. What is BRSK? Internet service provider. Dude, these are all spam. Now, it is possible that this is human spam. That is possible. I also think it is highly probable that this is... highly highly probable that this is bot spam as well all right anyway um so congratulations lg on the partnership with raylo um did you finish getting through this topic yeah you did okay let's move on should we probably do uh sponsors we should really get sponsors done okay or we can do merch messages you know what let's get sponsors done let's do two of them The show is brought to you today by Zero Bounce.

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1:09:31Apparently, SOC2 is pronounced SOC2. I don't have a ton of familiarity with email systems. So, thank you. I appreciate that sock two type two that does make it easier to say the show is also brought to you by updf when working with pdfs most readers can be pretty limiting in what you can do with files updf is a pdf editor annotator and converter that works across your desktop and your phone updf has added cross-platform ai tools that all work with one account on as many devices as you need you can edit text and images like uh just as though your pdf is a word document or you can use ocr to turn physical scans into searchable documents and convert things into dot doc or excel sheets without breaking your layout if you need help finding sources or summarizing a pdf their ai scholar research tool can speed up the process hit up the link in the description to grab their new 2026 discount and upgrade your workflow with you pdf legit useful tool though actually um shout out people who just don't use pdfs in the first place yeah but um for those times when we're stuck with one shout out you pdf all right should we do merch messages yeah if you are not for wait dan you baited me what do you mean you put up the sign it needs to say checkout chats oh did we decide on checkout jazz well we're definitely not calling them that anymore i ended up in a whole debate with someone on the subreddit over this where basically they were like i fundamentally disagree with linus's objection to the word merch to describe the products they make because i view merch as something that i buy for a higher price that's just to support the person i like and i was like buddy okay you you just you weren't even done your sentence and you proved my point we don't want anyone's charity and we respect your hard-earned money enough to make products not merch products not merch that are a good value and good quality and that we stand behind so calling them merch just doesn't work for us i i like supporting other creators i've bought a decent amount of random merch stuff um i'm a huge supporter of something that i think we were at the front of the curve for, which is like YouTubers getting into like real products.

1:11:58A huge range of YouTubers, by the way, not just like reviewer people. I think that's super cool. It's a really cool industry. It's really cool having people stand behind their product and be excited about things and blah, blah, blah. I'm very into all that. A lot of merch is just trash. Well, that's the problem too. Just manufactured waste. So we're trying to get away from that. That's all it is. It's tough because it's like literally the word just means merchandise, which is definitely exactly what it is. But then words are how people use them realistically. And the way people are using merch in this context is describing it as something that is at a cost level that does not equal the value return that you're getting.

1:12:41But you're doing so in order to specifically just support someone, which is not the goal of the store. So it makes sense that they might want to redefine.

1:12:52hopefully that makes sense all right cool so checkout chats uh if you're new to the show the way to send in a message is not via super chats or twitch bits or anything like that instead you can send a checkout chat all you got to do to do so i think we need a better name than checkout we're working on it okay we're gonna call it that for now all right all you got to do is head over to lttstore.com and you can throw... Oh, TechPants. Commerce Communique. TechPants. TechPants are here. Oh, TechPants. Okay, add to cart. All you got to do is add it to your cart and you will see the... Well, whatever.

1:13:31We're going to get this updated. Don't look at it. The point is, you will see this. You can type a message and it will go to producer Dan who will put it in the, you know, one of the little boxes that appears or he will respond to it or he will curate it for me and Luke to respond to. Oh, you do have to actually complete your order. Listen, it's been a very chaotic week. I'm doing my best. Product prompts is pretty okay. Really? PP? Yeah, exactly. So if people buy a lot, they send a big PP? Yeah, do you verify your gamers? Do you actually verify your gamers? Do you make sure that they are verified actual gamers?

1:14:10I mean, I've been known to do that before, yes. Do I have to do that now? I think we should still cook on the name. I don't know if product prompts is... Merch messages flows nicely. We can find something. And we can just make it CC instead of cock. And then it's like, you know, also credit card. Give us your CC. Give us five CCs of love. That sucks. That's terrible. Through the internet. I'm not saying pee-pee is the way to go, but I think... Well, I mean, we could try it out. I've got a pretty short pee-pee here from Sergio.

1:14:51Howdy, LLD. Any update on the DIY home battery? Has it made you more conscious on how you spend daily? There is an update coming. It has been in the works for quite a while. Pankratz and one of our new writers, Danny, who is now off probation, have been working on it. We have our, so we already did part one, which you saw, which was, there were a lot of comments about what could have been better. It's great. Thank you. Keep them coming. Part two will be the proof of concept for what will be the final deployment. And then part three will be the scale deployment. And I got to say, being conscious of how much I'm spending isn't helping me spend any less right now, which is frustrating because I just have a bunch of stuff to do before I can sort of tone down our energy use.

1:15:49But it is absolutely something that I want to do at home because, yeah, it's a lot, is what I'll say.

1:15:59Let's see, another one here. We're going. Hey, DLL, any new updates on the solar at your house? What works well and what would you change now, having had the solar system for a couple of years? Okay, yeah, update. So the plumbers who plumbed it into the walls of the pool, they filled it and didn't tell me. Or maybe they did tell me and I forgot. Anyway, all the PVC piping cracked in the winter. So the plumbing side of it doesn't work at all. as for the solar side the good news is they're perfectly functioning solar panels and we got a deal from the manufacturer on them so it doesn't really matter if the plumbing doesn't work because i didn't pay more for them than i would have for regular solar panels i'm still up on the deal i guess apparently maybe probably not the point is um in vancouver solar panels were more of a hey so that we can like make content and it's cool um and less of a practical you should definitely spend money on this because we just don't get enough sunny here.

1:17:00But man, there's days when it's a sunny day and I'm looking at it and I'm like, dang. That is, wow, that is a lot of power coming out of these. And that's pretty neat.

1:17:18Oh man, there's a robot messaging me about like a bunch of stuff. You could call, sorry. ginger nutted great name in full plane chat uh gave a really interesting idea you could call them tweets oh my god we can can we why not i think so wasn't there somebody going after the trademark already um okay well uh yeah i don't uh it's not very good but it's funny cool yeah definitely a meme. It is a meme. Tweak out to tweets. Now would probably be... Since we're talking about checkout messages... Com? That's kind of neat. Com? You know, I don't know. Send a message through the com port. That's not too bad.

1:18:16Checkout messages is better than checkout chats. Checkout messages is better. Com port. That's actually not bad. we're doing comms comms now I check out messages I like comms I like the abbreviation more than the wording but I think that's fine okay lgstore comms yeah and if someone sends like a really strong one it could be like a com dom

1:18:43they send a lot

1:18:48we have another thing to maybe talk about do you want to talk about it now this thing we should probably finish talking about like all the products that we launched this week oh that's what i was gonna that one last that one last for sure so um luke is actually oh oh yeah luke is i'm wearing everything decked out head to toe in um a couple of legitimately really exciting new products for us so he's uh my butt he's where everyone look at my butt i mean okay but okay hold on don't go away yet so what's cool about the tech pants is that yeah cool they're very you went and stood right behind the laptop for crying out loud, Luke.

1:19:22Now you've got the... Do not put it there.

1:19:31No, I still need you to stand.

1:19:43Timestamp that, Noki. Don't timestamp that. Noki doesn't want to do that. Okay, move that. The point is, what's cool about the tech pants is they're very office attire friendly, but they have extra hidden pockets if you're more of a cargo kind of boy. So there's a pocket there. You could stash a phone there. That pocket actually goes all the way across the front, by the way. So you can actually put like a ton of stuff in there. Grilled cheese sandwich. While following the office dress code. So there's like a little hidden zip. um there's another hidden zip on the right hip i believe um in the seam so you've got your regular pocket no no up there you go oh there's a hidden zip right there you'll figure it out oh god okay yep there we go so you've got yeah so you can put like something that you want to be a little bit more secure in there uh to be clear it doesn't have like rfid blocking lining or anything like that i'm not talking about that kind of secure i'm talking like just you don't want anyone to to put their hand in your pocket and notice it.

1:20:48Zipper pockets on the regular pockets as well. And then at the back, I believe, hold on. Yes. So in addition to the two back pockets, there's a hidden zipper pocket right where your right finger is, I believe. There it is. Or is it just a pocket? I think it's just a pocket. Yeah, just a, okay, extra pocket. So they're kind of like a, they're kind of like a, an office friendly, like, cargo pan. But not a cargo pan. They're like cousin is a cargo pant. Yes. Yes. They are not. And they don't really give the visual indication. No, they're like a white collar cargo pant. Really, really excited about this product.

1:21:28It's one of the things that we've been legitimately extremely successful with is office friendly, but really tech forward clothing. People asked about the fit of the polo. It feels longer. I believe which I like are Jamie was saying something that it was a bit longer yeah it's a bit of a longer cut probably if I stand up and measure it on my longness it's slightly longer than normal I would say which kind of makes sense so I think that can maybe look a little bit professional and it's probably nicer for the people that want to tuck it in yep so just like some of our other sort of office attire uh we've added just you know a little splash of fun a little splash of color obviously it's a high quality uh garment so it's a 10 cell cotton blend um so really soft really smooth feel custom knit collar and cuffs plus a do not drop branded button or actually sorry all the buttons are um they just have like a little cute can you see it they say do not drop on oh that's just a subtle ltt touch you're not gonna read that unless You're like the person wearing the shirt so it won't it won't stand out in an office environment And there is LTT branding on it even though it's probably pretty hard to tell Oh, yeah, very small embroidered right here black on black LTT branding So should be totally fine right above the nip I think I've been really happy with the photos coming from Creator house for a long time now.

1:22:58I think the photos of the shoot were like Sick really captured the vibe really effectively. They've been doing a really good job. Just want to give props And then there's one more product launch today. I know. What a day. Four product launches. We have the cables. We have the premium polo. We have the tech pants. Tech pants, I think, have been in development for like two years or something like that. These feel nice. They're really nice. These feel very nice. People have seen me wearing them on camera a few times. I've been demoing them for quite some time. I've been really pleased with the stain resistance of them.

1:23:31That's not to say that that's necessarily an advertised feature. I don't want to set incorrect expectations or anything like that, but for a light colored garment to survive in my environment where I live in is pretty remarkable. Oh, there's a couple of other little things. There's a subtle safety feature. So there's a reflective stripe inside the cuff that becomes visible when it's rolled up. So if you were, say, for example, someone who bikes to and from work and you still wanted to look workplace appropriate you can roll them up and there's a reflective stripe in there um cool i think that's probably enough that's neat i wouldn't have noticed that yeah it's not like you don't really feel it which is good a gusseted crotch um so just extra extra comfort um whether you're biking or just running between meetings or whatever i did notice like i i put them on and walked for a bit and it was nice and then i came to the set here because i put them on right before the show and sat down and when i sat down i was like oh yeah that's pretty yeah they're comfy they're really nice comfortable all right i don't mind wearing these for a bit all right luke intro it intro it last one last product this might be my favorite packaging for anything we've ever done it's so cute my goodness i even like that when it's like a little bit out it just feels like there's sand at the bottom nice i like it so much i'm so happy with these um i i sort of knew these were coming wait can i have that yeah um okay one quick thing i'm gonna jump in with we are rebranding yes we're rebranding the precision uh screwdriver that has the bit storage in it the pro um what does that mean i don't know we'll find out later but this is going to be the pro now i heard the whole story and agree with it but i do wonder what would linus say if this was like a tech product and that it's pro and that it got renamed um oh that's interesting

1:25:38wwls yeah i'd probably be annoyed with it but i understand why we did it exactly i don't necessarily disagree and there have sense there have been times when that rationale did not exist so i don't know man trying to capture it there it is hey check it out check it out yeah and like that's cool and it still has the i'm not gonna fully oh you i spoiled it it still has the magnetic door but behind the magnetic door float plane exclusive precision driver i gotta line these up before people get upset with float plane color scheme i will i will fix it for the ocds i got you hold on hold on okay it's all good okay it's it's it's all right i think it's okay i fixed it also is the anodization on that driver incredible or what

1:26:31there now it's in focus it's okay luke's new to being on camera he's never done it before first time no the problem is my eye sucks I can't see I can't tell you could get glasses that is an option it still has this they're in the car terrible nice satisfying bearing yeah I mean it's the same driver yep it just looks cool it has multiple different colors of blue because the floatplane blue is not exactly an official thing so which is kind of nice yep still comes with the detachable magnetic parts tray with the little segments in it and uh yep it's everything that you already knew and loved about the the precision kit pro which is what it is now but uh a little more blue available exclusively to folks who are subscribed to ltt on floatplane.com all right okay there now we're through all the products that we launched this week.

1:27:32Jeez. Only a couple. That was crazy. How many cables? Just a few. Excuse me, were there? Like 16? Yeah, something like that. Damn. Yeah, it's been a whole thing. Yeah, there's been a couple merch messages today. Just a few. Okay, but what else we got for today? What do you want to talk about? We could talk about Iran's internet blackout. This is brutal, man. It's now been 22 days since the Iranian authorities have imposed a near-total communications blackout in response to anti-government protests, during which as many as 30 ,000 protesters are thought to have been killed. Fixed-line internet, mobile data, and internet voice calls have all been cut off, with domestic communications and Starlink communications also seriously disrupted.

1:28:20Some connectivity is now slowly being restored, but the Iranian government is reportedly utilizing deep packet inspection and a whitelisting system to impose what an anonymous Iranian cybersecurity professional has called digital isolation. International internet access won't be reopened until at least March, but it will never return to its previous form, according to an Iranian government spokesperson. This new approach is also expected to have a major impact on the effectiveness of VPNs and Tor connections. so this is seriously that's not good a problem and a trend that as technologically driven control tools get more and more sophisticated and better understood is only going to increase in certain parts of the world hopefully hopefully hopefully not all of them and as few as possible so just wanted to flag this for you guys this is a real problem our stance is that this is terabad uh is there anything to add mr luke i don't think so um starlink is an interesting one because i'm not sure necessarily how they are like jamming it or stopping it i don't know if they've requested that it doesn't because i know that that is a thing that you can do not sure um not necessarily that they would comply i'm not saying that but i know that you could ask for that um in in places like china with the great firewall uh vpn usage is like a extremely open secret like everybody kind of knows i have a feeling iran might not go quite the same route with that this is yeah this is what i'm kind of thinking i also don't know exactly how this is happening like would it even be possible are they even connected um at all far now asks i wonder if the global internet is dying if there will only be regional nets that's exactly what this means like runets a thing china's own firewalled internet ecosystem is a thing um the tools exist and it's big business providing these tools to authoritarian regimes yeah it's yeah it's happening it's coming yeah

1:30:52magic cheeseburger says mulvad vpn apparently has several anti-censorship methods to obfuscate vpn traffic i wonder if they can get around this packet inspection i hope so um you know i i hope that the VPN companies win the arms race here, but I, um... That's, I mean, obviously this is... I feel like when it gets to whitelisting, I think there's only so much you can do. Bro. Is it TeamSpeak? No. Sorry, Noki linked this thing. Obviously, like, this, you know, the whole thing sucks, but it's kind of fun hearing things like this. Apparently, over a thousand iranian dota players like at once were playing dota 2 local hosted lobbies and this looks like in a locally hosted team speak server and the the video that we have on this if you full screen it is just scrolling through all of the different voice lobbies that they have going um in a in a team speak server that seems to be called dota iran um which like that is it's so cool seeing people come together in horrible times.

1:32:08Um, like obviously it's a horrible situation. I don't want to praise that, but like, it's pretty sweet that not only were people able to get together to a certain degree, but they also got so many people together. And like this, this, you know, spark of unity amongst terrible situation is, is cool. So I'm, I'm props to Props to the people getting that going. Yeah, Ginger Nutted says, it's both sad and terrifying to see people who are just like you and me. Just regular gamers who just want to live in peace and play some fucking Dota. Like just be left alone to live their lives and function and, you know, sometimes dysfunction if we're being real about the Dota community, you know?

1:32:55But do it on their terms. Yeah.

1:33:01cool um the iphone 5s just got a security update apple quietly released updates for some very old iphones and ipads including devices running ios 12 15 and 16 some of which hadn't been patched in years the updates renew a security certificate so services like iMessage FaceTime and apple account sign-in will keep working past january of 2027 our discussion question is should apple be praised for keeping decade-old devices minimally functional or is this just the bare minimum uh to avoid breaking its own services well i wish it didn't deserve praise and yet in the world we live in in the in reality yeah they they this is something that that has to be noted like i'll be the first to call out apple when they do something that's anti-consumer or monopolistic but this is cool that means the rule is that i gotta be the first one in line to put their dick in my mouth when they do something that is genuinely cool like making sure that someone who bought an iphone 13 years ago is still able to use it if they can tolerate the you know the experience that they're having on that device it'll be pretty rough but still that's that's pretty cool

1:34:25speaking of pretty cool uh 1.3 uh million of its 1.4 million signatures were verified for stop killing games that's awesome which is well above the minimum to be formally considered by eu politicians i had no hope for this really yeah stop killing games i just i mean we talked about it we we promoted it we were like yeah if this works that would be great but i just i didn't think it would make it i do what were the odds obviously in support of the idea i think i think when this when this first became a thing and i like tried to talk about it with some nuance it got a lot of hate but then we were luckily able to lean back on the many years of examples of us supporting this general concept uh the the problem i have with things like this is i just hope that they get good consultants on the result that's all sure but i just didn't think we'd even make it this far totally yeah and i'm excited about it and the eu's done some cool stuff so hopefully this goes well and i'm feeling good about it i just just a little bit concerned that they might do something yeah that or they might do nothing right but at least it is forced onto the agenda of the European Commission.

1:35:39That is something. And if one region forces game developers to do this, whether it's to open source the server software or whatever it is, right? Partner with the community to run the services that are needed to keep the game alive. Whatever it is, if one region forces it, well, at that point, they've done all the work anyway. And a lot of the time, it will bleed over into other regions, which is what I'm hoping for because so far Canada's got its hands full doing a lot of other stuff right now. We're pretty busy. Maybe we don't work on this right now. The U.S. has got its hands full doing a lot of stuff right now.

1:36:19Yeah. Doing a lot of stuff right now. They're definitely things. Yeah, they're definitely, boy, are they ever doing stuff. I'd say things are going pretty good down there right now.

1:36:36Yeah. This is funny. Bernardo Baruch said about the Apple topic, it's like seeing a mayor actually do their job. Yeah, it's basically like that. It's like, I shouldn't have to be impressed by this, but I so am. I so am. All right, what's next? Reddit found a card skimmer on the Canada Computers checkout page. A Canada Computers customer has discovered a card skimmer embedded directly into the company's website checkout page. the malicious script was found siphoning names, addresses, and credit card details to a third party server in real time, suggesting a server side compromise rather than a single browser based attack.

1:37:18Reports indicate fraudulent charges dating back to early December, meaning the breach may have gone undetected for weeks, or I mean, really potentially longer considering it's saying fraudulent charges. They might've been harvesting for a long time before they started actually using, which is extremely common in these cases. So I suspect it was a lot longer than that. Canada Computers has not yet issued a public statement and affected customers are being advised to review recent credit activity via an email. Dang. Is an email enough of a notification when dealing with this big of a security breach?

1:37:53What should companies do to handle this? I don't know how much more you can really do than that. I don't know other than like not have it happened in the first place but clearly that ship sailed yeah they're a relatively small shop running a internet commerce operation um it can be tough out there this is one of those things where it's like totally the consumer advocacy of this like something's got to happen all that kind of stuff are we effectively just funneling everyone to big players managing their stores for them is that a good thing? Do we want that? No, we don't want that. Then sometimes there's going to be some security problems.

1:38:33Even with the big players, there's going to be security problems. I know. See, this is the issue, though. The overreaction to stuff like this can result in... No, you're so right. ...scaring people away from being responsible. Do you get tired of it? From being responsible. Like, is it just exhausting to be you? I'm not right all the time. No, but this is one that I got to admit, I would not have seen that angle on. and if you gave me if you gave me like two hours to sit and think about it i wouldn't go oh my god we need to chill out we need to kind of let canada computers regroup and we need to continue to support them because otherwise oh my god our only options are just going to be freaking amazon and new egg yeah to be clear canada computers like almost certainly brought this upon themselves in a variety of ways never responded to my email guys come on like i remember them being a meme internally at NCIX.

1:39:29You saw how broken our IT infrastructure was and our internal systems were. I think I showed you our product management portal and stuff. Oh, yeah. And then the punchline was, yeah, but Canada Computers was still using fax until like a year ago. So like... Right? But still, at least they exist. and I guess that's something that is that is kind of good you know yeah yeah shout out memx too I guess those are those are Canadian our Canadian computer retailer bros and that's the problem is their their holdouts and uh I'm not going to single them out I'll single out everything basically it's not just the computer industry it's every industry shops like this are holdouts And in a lot of cases, they're not long for this world because things like this can potentially crush them out of business.

1:40:27And then you just funnel people to Amazon or whoever else, basically Amazon and Walmart. And the big box places that have extremely long histories of abusing people on much deeper levels than credit cards, which are often fixable because your credit card company, if you report it properly, will just give you your funds back and give you an email. new card. Compare at unfixable. Sorry, that's calling back to an earlier topic. Yeah, like, do you want to funnel to places like that? No. Right? So it's like, okay, I don't know. No, you're right. I mean, it's the same argument that I used to have with people who would rage at Blizzard developers who would say kind of silly things at BlizzCon.

1:41:10Yeah. It's like the result of that, which we saw happen, was less developers on stage taking less questions. And if they do take questions those questions being curated beforehand which is less transparency and less good for you like you sometimes have to think about what like not what is the result that you want but what is the result that will happen based on your actions yep uh so canada computers has released a statement thank you the female audience for posting this in float plane chat so they're they're doing their best complimentary to your credit monitoring and etc we're investigating we're doing stuff so you You know, thank you for doing stuff.

1:41:48And hopefully this isn't too damaging to either the customers who were inflicted or to Canada Computers. By and large, we do want smaller, even if they are chains, we'd still rather have a smaller chain exist. Can you imagine that we'd be sitting here today saying that? I'd rather I'd rather root for like my smaller chain than the large like giant mega fish that eats up everything I mean the mom and pop computer shops are like gone yeah there are a few yeah even black lab I think shut down really or the store did anyway yeah let's see we have gone mobile there it is that is another way of saying that we don't have a brick and mortar anymore we do on-site services same great number same trusted service so this is the one that i that i bought out all the inventory of and uh that's a sick acronym yeah black lab on-site that is a sick acronym i mean he's a he's a funny guy like he had a lot he had a ton of personality that's that doesn't surprise me that he would have like a but a pretty cool brand super not surprised and the next one on the the order to get knocked over is places like canada computers and memex and again all the other industries i'm not i'm not like signaling uh them out singling sorry um i still have like a uh a sledge of a clogged throat from being sick i'm still i still have like minor symptoms from being sick i still have a bit of a clogged throat from that apple praise

1:43:27oh yeah we need to talk about whale land hey our first whale land of 2026 is just three weeks away on february 21st as always we will have contests challenges and big team games that everyone at the land can participate in our gaming lounge zone is being amped up as we expand it with an additional projector and enough controllers to have eight plus players at each of the two 120 inch setups plus we'll have a product booth there oh so you can grab some ltd store items alongside a unique whale land shirt or hoodie you know what might actually do quite well at a land is true spec cables yeah that makes sense um you should even it i don't know if we'll have any by then, but sure.

1:44:13Some tickets are still available at whaleland.com. Chewy asks if the ice cream machine will be back. Yes, it will. whaleland.com. So you guys can go check that out. February 21st and 22nd. It is at Smash Champs Badminton Club. And you just click here for buy tickets. And here's all the information, including parking, schedule, hotel recommendations. Oh, yeah! Starforge. We're partnered with Starforge for the whale ticket system. I think we still have yeah whale VIP is sold out but BYOC plus so you have an extra foot of table space is still available oh goodness not many 9 tickets available for BYOC plus and we still have 100 tickets for BYOC but don't just sit on that last time at around this time like 3 weeks prior we had like 100 plus tickets available and there were quite a few people that were like oh yeah well there's like I don't know.

1:45:11There's like a hundred left. No problem. And then in the days leading up to the event, they're like, where'd all the tickets go? It's because a lot of people make these kinds of decisions. Last minute. Don't be a last minute. Larry, get your ticket because you never know when a group of 20 people is going to all buy tickets together and they're just going to start disappearing in very large chunks. I eat. Cool. Good chat. I eat. I eat. What do you eat? Not cake, that's for sure. For dinner, it will be chicken and sweet potato. He turned down score flavor ice cream cake prior to the show. That's crazy.

1:45:51Things got bad, dude. Having no kitchen for six months because of renovation was bad. Things got bad. This is my plate. I couldn't resist. But I'm back on track again. Things are going good. Heck yeah. I got some progress to remake up. It'll be fine.

1:46:06All right. we're also supposed to talk about float plane apparently where's that i don't even see it oh yeah hey what what we had five float plane videos this week three clips two bangers uh just circle and highlight the clips no need to watch can you bring up the float plane if you're a tech upgrade fan you can check out adam's tech upgrade where are they now showcasing what changed from the very first amd ultimate tech upgrade spoiler adam and shay are engaged now good for them let's go if you're more of a wan pal you can check out episode 19 holy it's been 19 months of this of why is wan late where somehow linus is the reason why wan was late for all of january wow i know that's crazy uh also float plane uh precision screwdriver very epic wow be cool wahoo what am i even okay no looking at here no key keeps who wrote this oh for sure sam is this sammy for sure sammy that makes sense very epic wow v cool wahoo definitely sammy okay lmg.gg slash fp when there you go i did it sammy i know he really wants us to watch the last four seconds of this with audio i don't actually know what the last four seconds is um but i've got it queued up okay uh so i just go to luke laptop dan are you ready luke laptop when is this from oh this is on ywan late okay no this isn't on ywan late what is this this is from like yesterday or something oh okay ready wait where are you oh what oh i got so confused because what was that was that clip mirrored can i see that again what are you so confused about where are you standing right here

1:48:05oh it's pointing the camera's pointing to you the camera person is over there yeah okay i'll show you okay no no i get it i get it i get it yeah no no i'm just an idiot okay okay yeah cool good chat all right all right all right what am i supposed to be doing now dan we have sponsors it's the only last obligation we should do a couple more topics that was a good recommendation, Noki. Thank you. Alright, YouTube's anti-ad block system just got smarter and harder to dodge. YouTube users are reporting a spike in... Linus rejoicing. What? Linus so happy. Linus winning. What do you mean by winning?

1:48:42I'm kidding. Oh my god. Is it this again? Oh! I have never... Twitter thread. Linus so happy about YouTube changes. I have never told people don't use ad block. Linus, number one benefactor of YouTube anti-ad block system. Unless they are internal staff here for the express reason that because we make, as a company, so much of our income via ads, it seems a little hypocritical for us to block them on our work time. I think ultimately that you know that people have to review videos on the channel at work and you just want their ad money.

1:49:24YouTube users are reporting a spike in this content isn't available. Try again later errors that appear to only go away after disabling ad blockers or subscribing to YouTube premium. The reports add to growing evidence that Google is continuing to technically restrict or degrade playback for users running ad block. Discussion question. at what point does fighting ad blockers cross the line from enforcing terms of service into intentionally breaking the user experience i mean to me they're kind of one and the same enforcing terms of service would be you're not allowed to use the service unless you adhere to the terms of the service aka like would you say that if you were going to a concert and they didn't let you in without a ticket that they are breaking your user experience i mean they are but I wouldn't frame it that way if that makes sense at what point does this go from fighting ad blockers to crossing the line into uh Linus enforcing his will on YouTube who would love to not do this but is just you know Linus might talk about our winch Linus controls what every large company does so you know if you want to channel the voices in our community you could pick a slightly less stupid one.

1:50:47Is that possible? It's fun, though. Is that possible? It's so rude. Holy crap. You just tried to cleave everyone.

1:51:03Oh, my goodness. Oh, my God. Okay. My thoughts are my own and are not representative of Linus and Luke or Linus Media Group. You're going to have to show your face while you say that to them. Speaking of internal policies, you're not allowed to insult the audience. What about my peers? I'm insulting you! I'm talking about my peers and my friends. You did on this show. There is no way that... I didn't say I'm always perfect. Rules for me? Not for me? No, I didn't say I'm always perfect and that I shouldn't be admonished when I do it. I'm just saying it is policy to not insult the audience no matter how stupid they are.

1:51:51I'll have to keep that in mind. That will be very useful. Even if they're really stupid. Sorry, I forgot that. Not publicly. It's against policy. Not publicly part. I'm sorry. Oops.

1:52:06Ah, boy. anyways off of Linus' favorite topic of the show Valve will face a 656 million pound lawsuit I love that the UK's currency is pounds yeah cause it just that's a heavy lawsuit you know 656 million pounds not like that tiny cost of doing business one that Google got recently is that in the doc so this is in the UK over alleged unfair prices on Steam following a tribunal ruling that the case could continue um that's basically it um the case could affect up to 14 million uk users who may be eligible for compensation if valve is found to have unfairly charged commissions of up to 30 what i don't know but i'm interested to see what happens that is strange i don't really know what this means me neither to be honest we'll keep an eye on it are you talking about google paying 68 million over recording private chats is that the one yeah like what do you mean 68 million yeah i know it sounds like a lot of money it would be my entire family would never have to work again for generations wow amazing to google that's nothing that means nothing dude yeah they'll just do it again they like almost certainly made more money off of that than it cost which is just again like come on you have to cross that line at the very least.

1:53:32It should be way more than that. But you have to cross that line. Also, at least one million more dollars. Yeah. Come on. That'd be pretty nice. 68 sucks. If it was going to be low, it could have at least been funny. Yeah. So 68 would be doing it with someone with two butts? Or one really big one. No. Well, yeah. Okay. Interesting. That would be the largest of butts.

1:54:07That's a.1 percenter, man.

1:54:13You're looking at me?

1:54:17Have you seen that movie? Oh, man. It's a good movie.

1:54:28Oh, Dan! No! pooping back and forth forever. Yeah, that movie's hilarious. Gilmore D says more cake than Betty Crocker. Love it. You, me, and everyone we know. Okay. Okay. No notes here. CNN is now putting emergency weather information behind their paywall. I think this was actually from last week, but like, oh my God. Full play check. He got paid to type that from Jack Logan. I know. I'm the one who did it. I have to take some responsibility for this. That's it. That message in Floppy chat was a... I even got it wrong. It's actually this. Yeah. There you go. So, no notes. That's bad. Yeah. The ins***ification of everything sucks.

1:55:28In other news, an early build of Google's Android desktop interface that is going to apparently replace Chrome OS has leaked. And we have some screenshots. So, like, here's some stuff that's moved. It looks a lot like Windows 11. Yeah. Why is the middle becoming the norm? I blame Apple. They even have the four. Okay. Can you zoom in on the taskbar? there's even the four things one of them is a search bar look no look just to the left of the phone i know it's like an app thing but if you look at the windows one yeah very similar yeah could we just can we not because you don't because then you don't need to look where you're clicking you can just drag it all the way to the bottom left and then you open the thing like that's the reason it matters i click on it i'm trying to think that because i because i actually just run it in the middle because i just never bothered to change it because i wanted to see what it was going to be like and it never affected me because i think i just press the button but if it was in the bottom left would it bother you no okay then we're good yeah yes i know i can hit the windows key i don't always have my hand on the keyboard say for instance i was mousing and my other hand was occupado why would i want to click my keyboard like with that point That's not even sanitary.

1:56:50The big eight. The big eight. Stop.

1:56:58Anyway, it included screen captures, running HP Elite, Dragonfly Chromebook, etc. 9 to 5 Google is where you can go check out the full article on this. Apparently, it's going to be called Aluminum OS, or Aluminum OS, excuse me, the code name for the Android-based desktop OS. No one's going to agree on how to say it. No, no, they'll change it. um the bug report has since been taken down but nine to five google managed to save these screen recordings it essentially looks like android 16's existing desktop mode with some minor alterations uh the other big thing here is the extensions button to the right of the url bar in chrome which is uh only there on desktop versions of the browser so that's you know not the android one so that's cool i guess we'll uh see how that goes for them yeah tesla is discontinuing the model s and Model X in the second quarter of 2026.

1:57:49This was announced by CEO Elon Musk during an earnings call on January 28th of this year. The reason for the discontinuation is apparently to free up space at Tesla's Fremont factory for Optimus humanoid robot production. Okay. This is a very optimistic set of notes that we've got here. This is part of their strategy to transform Tesla from an automaker into an AI and robotics company. The third generation Optimus is described as meant for mass production, but then again, you know, Tesla, or more specifically their CEO, also predicted that 5 ,000 robots would be produced in 2025 and said in 2024 that they were already doing meaningful work and then said a completely different thing on, I believe, that same earnings call this year and admitted that they weren't doing any meaningful work and that they were all just in development.

1:58:44So that's something. I'm not even going to bother with these timelines because a timeline from Tesla means absolutely nothing. Where's the Roadster 2? Anyway, sales of both the Model S and X have apparently been declining steadily. In 2025, Tesla sold only just shy of 51 ,000 other models, which combines Model S, Model X, and Cybertruck. they don't break out individual figures for these vehicles uh for context tesla's focus has shifted to mass market model 3 and model y which make up the bulk of their sales evidently um elon's one trillion dollar pay package depends on him making literally a million of these robots not to mention getting 10 million full self-driving subscriptions um so there's a lot of people mad about world's first trillionaire and the trillion dollar pay package yeah it's not happening he doesn't have it so he gets it he did get the last one that everyone thought he wasn't going to get though that's true so but if only past performance was an indicator of future success then we could just buy every stock that's going up right now assuming that it will only ever go up which seems to be what a lot of people are doing right now which is blowing my freaking mind it doesn't seem to matter what any of the fundamental product or technology developments are companies or sales or anything but uh hey gambling apparently it's a thing people like yeah did you see that um for my appearance on jimmy fallon there was one of those market uh market prediction what what are they called those like betting on anything markets prediction there was a prediction market thing on like keywords that I might or might not say during it.

2:00:31I would, dude, I was so tempted to just bet a hundred thousand dollars on myself and then just not say a word like it, dude, it would be free money. It would just be free money to me. The slip up on that would feel so bad in the moment. Oh, I know. Right. Holy, if you bet on not saying something. Bit of Bit says that would be illegal. would enforce it yeah these prediction markets are completely unregulated as far as i can tell yeah like immediately that's fair

2:01:10like a law i mean we've talked about this before you know a warranty only has the value of a company's willingness to uphold it. A law only has the value of an administration's willingness to enforce it. Like, if something's a law that nobody is going to enforce, and it's just a giant open, ah, it'd be a shame if anyone knowledgeable bet it on this thing that they know the outcome of, why don't we have a completely unregulated gambling market where you can bet on anything? that's a flaw in the system the mighty reptar hate the game in flow point chat said something interesting he said it occurred to me why elon's selling the full self-driving subscription at a low price compared to the perch compared to purchasing it outright uh is to sell more subscriptions because his pay package is based on volume of subscriptions not dollars generated from the subscription oh that actually makes a ton of sense i added some square brackets to the end of that.

2:02:11That makes a ton of sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting. Interesting.

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2:04:10I don't think it was that bad. No, that's what it felt like. My goodness. In other news, Ubisoft continues to fall apart. After last week's horrible Ubisoft news, the company wants to cut up to 18 % of the staff from its French studios, or about 200 jobs. In response to everything that management has done wrong, French Ubisoft workers have voted to strike February 10th to 12th. In a press release on Blue Sky announcing the strike, workers said they were calling for a halt to management's obsession with penny pinching and worsening our working conditions, saying there had been no dialogue and no respect, and that they were being treated like children while their management gets away with lies and breaking the law.

2:04:54That's not even the end of the Ubisoft labor disputes. The workers of the recently closed Halifax studio rallied downtown this week to urge Ubisoft to reopen their office. Workers on the picket line say the closure was very suspicious as the office had just become Ubisoft's first studio to unionize in North America. Ubisoft responded by saying that the process to restructure the company began two years ago, well before the unionization process started. Our discussion question is, why are the French so much better at striking than North Americans? they have a long better laws very colorful history of it they really do lots of reds tons of reds

2:05:42alleged political censoring and other fun tiktok news days after tiktok finalized the sale of its u.s business to mostly trump-friendly american investors tiktok users have apparently been unable to send the word epstein in dms it really uh allegedly allegedly allegedly uh tiktok says it's investigating these reports and say they don't have rules against sharing the name epstein do you imagine having to issue that press release can we try this i have it installed but it's not logged in okay um multiple users have also been reporting that videos critical of ice are not being uploaded or shared.

2:06:19One example is comedian Megan Stalter who uploaded a video to her Instagram encouraging the abolishment of ICE, which was reposted 12 ,000 times, while that same video failed to upload to TikTok multiple times. TikTok denies the implications and says the issues were due to a power outage at a U.S. data center. Okay. Possibly. In a separate story, TikTok has reached an 11th hour settlement to avoid being involved in something they should absolutely be involved in, which is the landmark social media addiction trial that could establish a legal precedent on whether social media companies deliberately design their platforms to addict children, which they definitely do.

2:06:59The defendants currently include Google and Meta. Snapchat landed a settlement last week and TikTok should for sure be included. Well, so the problem with settlements is that, so what they're trying to do is they're trying to settle so that there's no legal precedent. Yeah, there should for sure be legal precedent. I, yeah, I am. I would strongly prefer that this does not get settled with settlements. Yes. Yeah. Yep. In a very different kind of TikTok story, and this is nuts. I don't know if you've heard of this. Cabby Lame, I hope you're saying that right. I did see this. Has sold his company.

2:07:33Yeah, which is basically. It's a lot more than that. His entire life, as far as I can tell. Like everything about him. Yeah, his likeness, his mannerisms, his voice, for forever, I think. In a$975 million, oh, all stock. All stock deal. So I think, and listen. Man, sorry, you got to know the name. So it's 75 million shares in, ordinary shares in rich sparkle holdings. Yes. Yes. So basically he got no money for his his work and likeness forever. Maybe is this going to be the next smosh? Maybe his AI twin will be 0.1 % OnlyFans. Is this going to be the next smosh? Because they got f***ed. They sure did.

2:08:45Sideways. They sure did. On that deal where Smosh was acquired for in an all stock deal. Who this is the... People are like, are we supposed to know who this is? Isn't he like the biggest TikToker or something? He's this guy. He does this. Yeah, I'd never... This is something that's kind of silly and he goes... I'd never heard of him either, to be honest with you. I don't... I don't know beyond that. He might do things other than that. He might do that thing differently than I just did. Other than that, I don't know. See? Yeah. Yeah, he's apparently like a huge deal. Sure. Rich Sparkle Holdings.

2:09:21Yeah, Rich Sparkle Holdings. What a name. Most followed TikToker, apparently. So this really does feel deceptive, given that it's an all stock deal. Yeah. If it was stock in Disney, that would be different. Yeah, totally. yeah but rich sparkle holdings what is rich sparkle holdings can i short it not financial advice i mean even disney stock rich sparkle holdings oh they went up hold on hold on this is just the one day view this doesn't mean anything so people liked this story okay people people liked people liked this rich sparkle holdings spend a billion dollars on someone's name wait since when has it existed i searched for five years and it has only existed since july of 2025 apparently nice or at least that's how far back yahoo finances history goes for it okay what do you got uh this one lol so even if it is in disney it would have gone down 33 in five years um good job bluey bad job superhero movies i was joking about this and someone's going away party um before the show uh what will be the mark of the end times for disney if you had to pick something i already know my answer so i can do mine first if you want to if you if you want to think about it for a bit but i thought you might have you might have a thought i don't know if my gut thought here is good or accurate but i'll throw it out anyways because it's the first thing that came to mind would be the closure of a park.

2:11:01Ooh, that's good. That's good. Okay, mine is an MCU Star Wars crossover movie.

2:11:13Like Iron Man fighting a Jedi or some shit. She stepped down, eh? Kathleen Kennedy stepped down? She's stepping down. Oh, interesting. And I think it's like the guy who's stepping up. I always forget his name. Jon Favreau? Who's the other guy? There's kind of like two Filoni? I think it might be him Dave Filoni Yeah I think it's Dave Filoni Potentially exciting We'll see Chat hates this Made my stomach hurt Never speak that shit again That was disgusting to hear Like Vision versus Darth Vader Like duel Like what even Star Wars is another one of those things where like it feels very Ubisoft coded where it's like this was actually genuinely hilariously easy to not do the way that you did like the path was laid out he did like George Lucas sold them effectively a money printing machine not just that what you should do for the sequel series this is what you should do and they were like nah are you nuts And even if they didn't like his idea for it, at least there was the, there was the expanded universe or extended universe, whatever the EU.

2:12:33There were so many options. Kathleen is quoted many times being like, we don't have like source material to go off of. And it's like, bro. Yes, you did. Stop. I, and the world stuff was kind of out there. Yeah. You don't have to use all of it. Yeah. But you could have used, I don't know something. And then I think the, the first people to admit that some of the extended universe stuff goes a little out there yeah would be fans of the extended universe stuff like you don't have to use all of it pretzel parkour says vader lifts me on here oh it's so bad it's so bad you know you know like captain marvel like like flies through uh flies through a freaking star destroyer in hyperspace and splits it in two.

2:13:21Do you know about white armor? It's only slightly stupider than what we got. Do you know about white armor Vader? No. So this is where like, you know, EU gets kind of weird. There's a white armor Vader. Jar Jar has the infinity stones. Imagine white armor Vader steps into view and it's like his first introduction just walks up, picks up the hammer. Cinema. Cinema. cinema okay okay someone brought up space balls 2 in chat um kishan pd brings up space balls 2 dude i don't i don't know how they're gonna parody like new star wars it's not funny i think it would be kind of funny if they just did like the same thing over and over again if they had like a two minute sequence where they just repeated things a bunch okay if they if they in one movie if they effectively did the arc of like you just do the same thing for a while that you did in the past at the beginning of the movie and then you just kind of rewrite everything that happened and make everything kind of weird and then you come back and try to kind of like i don't know do it again like if the movie is in three parts similar to uh pulp fiction um but they're like loosely linked just like how the movies were like really not well linked and were definitely three completely different things not made in collaboration which is insane if they if they do it like that in one movie it might be kind of funny they can figure it out Roman 21023 says Robert Downey Jr.

2:14:45is also a Mandalorian oh god oh god I don't know Palpatine comes back again and it's Robert Downey Jr.

2:15:03Iron Mandalorian Iron Mandalorian It is rough. Oh, man. Oh, my God. It's rough because it sounds too real. Oh, we have Groot and the tiny baby Yoda thing. Groot's on Endor. Yeah. Baby Groot and baby Yoda. Dude, the merch sales would pop. They should put us in charge. We could do this. I mean, we could legitimately have done a better job than we did so far. We'd sell so many toys. We'd sell so many toys. Oh, man. you know i'm not one to make a statement like that lightly i know it's very easy for armchair quarterbacks to say i could do a better job no i think we could have i literally actually think you and i as the creative heads of star wars after the acquisition probably could have done a better job just go walk up to dave heloni and john favreau and be like hey guys what do we do yeah yeah that would have that would have worked i don't think we need to do much more hey oh so I heard there's um there's some like uh story prompts from the guy who did this the whole time so I guess we should like read them pull those out maybe just read them and then just like you know work on those develop those I know you guys know like a lot about the lore more than we do so like you want to help us kind of fill this out we'll follow your guys I heard you guys know a lot of people in the industry yeah that too we don't so yeah we'd love your guidance on that thanks guys That would have been pretty cool Nice Yeah we noticed we have all the money In the world Enough to buy the earth and all the heavens So we could just hire the coolest people to work on this Maybe Maybe This idea where he just goes like

2:16:55Yeah we could just throw that away Maybe we don't do that part We could do that to that idea Yeah yeah yeah nice nice nice nice We could have our most beloved character Like maybe be cool that'd be cool

2:17:13stupid yeah that's good I think was that our last topic no we have one more quick one LTT Labs article Anker Nano smart charger 45 watt testing and exploration this popped off on Reddit Labs did a thing and it was really cool and I was as surprised to see it as anyone and i was like wow this is really cool so labs has been doing this thing for a while with articles where we're trying to ask questions dive into things someone who's really been leading the charge on this is lucas so a lot of them are around you know charging things and stuff like that because these are interests that lucas has which is great and like totally the goal to be clear so thank you lucas for killing it um and uh we've been posting them on reddit well he's been posting them on Reddit and responding to some of the comments and stuff and trying to get it out there because we're really trying to make this a space that you can go to, to, you know, maybe you didn't have the question.

2:18:13Maybe like me, you've looked at phone charters for a long time, just been like, I don't know. But now someone who is interested in it can bring you along the path of like, what is interesting about these things? Can we look into them? Obviously super cool luma field tests what is care mode what does it do yeah it does exactly this yeah now we know that's so cool awesome is it real or is it just bs you know yeah here's their here's their marketing here's what we found this made me like interested in buying like a cool phone charger yeah which i have never cared about once in my entire life thermals of a charger yeah here's how much it can actually dissipate before it reaches like a steady state here's how hot it gets like damn ltc labs there was there was a reddit thread over the weekend that i kind of missed until work started again so i got to it way too late and it was already cold by the time i saw it and there was a bunch of like like wtf is labs doing it didn't really pick up a lot of steam but a lot of the comments were pretty consistent on like what's happening and then this got posted yeah and it was like a massive wave of like oh my god this is awesome this is what we're trying to do right now there are a lot of things that we're trying to do right now this is one of them we're also trying to better support video production and do all this other kind of stuff but we're trying to the like internal labeling of it and i haven't watched uh that stuff in a long time but you know like the vibe in when the tv would roll into the class and you'd watch bill nye stuff back in the day of like here's some interesting questions and this person went and like sought to answer them and brought us along with them and showed us the the ways that they tested things and how they did things and the results and stuff like that we want to do that with uh we want it to be fun we want to be interesting we want to be engaging we want to ask questions that you maybe didn't think of or if you guys ask a cool question we want to try to seek uh an answer and share it with you and bring you along and this is like a huge fantastic example of that so yeah yeah and that's it for our topics today it's time for after dark mr daniel bassard you want to uh hit us with some merch

2:20:28what did we agree to call them comms checkout messages messages yeah sure we got loads of checkout messages in today. I won't have time for all of them. I do have to go relatively soonish, actually. Yes, I think we have enough time. I think we've structured this out well. Any insights as to why some... Hold on. Do we need a second Dan behind you putting the metal on your neck? You said, I think we structured this out well, and we definitely didn't contribute to that at all. Yes, you did. I don't know. You listened. You were great. Did we, though? Yeah. I wasn't listening. That's such a, like, head pat answer.

2:21:03No, you actually did. For once. You were good boys, Diggs, Dan. You were good boys. Well, Linus was. I don't know about you. You don't have any say in what we do. Yeah, not 50%, that's for sure. Yeah. No, maybe next time. Maybe next time you can say, no, we're going to do the sponsors now, Daniel. That'll be fun. I would never use your full name. Any insight as to why some lengths are cheaper than others doesn't seem to be based on length. can't wait for more normal sizes to be in stock um the pricing can't remember oh um so if one gets longer and cheaper check the data rate that makes sense cool good chat

2:21:51um if jimmy fallon was on your show rather than the other way around what topics would you want to talk to him about in this hypothetical situation you also have access to his broader audience dude i wouldn't actually be super interested in leveraging his broader audience i would love to have an extended chat with him about how the production works and how it's worked over the years i watched a time lapse of them building their studio that was nuts i just the whole thing how the structure works how the individual players within the game that is making that show function would be so interesting to me like that like handler that we had yeah what does that person's they look like yeah how do they work and i was i was very surprised second time around to get a little bit more um an indication anyway more of an indication that he is more involved than just like the guy who stands there and is or isn't funny depending on your opinion clearly a lot of people don't think he's funny clearly a lot of people think he's very funny because see i don't He's one of the highest paid people on TV.

2:23:00Get over it. I don't even care about that at all. I just find the production so interesting. No, but that's what I mean. It's like he's clearly more than that, which I actually didn't realize first time around. Yeah, I have no idea. I would love to spend just like a week there trying to, you know, stay out of people's way, but observe and just learn. It would be very, very cool. Well, I think with his history doing it for so long, they're asking like if he was a guest on our show, right? I know, yeah. So picking his brain about how it's evolved over the years, I think would be absolutely incredible.

2:23:31Very, very cool. Incredible.

2:23:35My Canadian neighbors, what do you think is the most Canadian thing about each other? Thanks, mate, for the USB double C thick cords.

2:23:50The most Canadian thing about you. I mean, your last name, I don't have to go very deep. Lafreniere is about the French Canadianist name that I think probably exists. That is a thing. Lefleur maybe. That's another one. What else? What else we got here? What makes someone Canadian? see it's a funny thing because outside of canada it seems like there's a lot of stereotypes for canadians you know we're called leafs like that's a pejorative yeah that's cool yeah i actually like it that was pretty good yeah leaf yeah i'm down i mean it's degradable it's it's even like it kind of works because like it matches the flag like if you're looking at all the flags yeah someone was like point at the people you would call the leaf yeah you f***ing leaf you know like yeah sure sweet all right like i don't i don't even think that has like a like a negative connotation to me anyway i mean i i don't understand what people necessarily even mean by it um most canadian thing about us yeah like i know i know about some of the

2:25:09um fun fact there was once a contest to find the canadian equivalent of as American as apple pie and the winner was as Canadian as possible under the circumstances I think it's the war crime thing yeah that makes sense they wrote a book about us yeah I don't know like I don't think Luke's particularly into maple syrup like ball hockey but like you don't even you don't even ice hockey so like no it's so expensive yeah um i think that's maybe the most canadian thing about you that's already what i thought of i had thought about this earlier in the thing is that you would love to and watch but have never really done ice hockey oh yeah i i want that's actually extremely canadian because ice hockey is really expensive yeah there is a i was too small as a kid too no money and too small so It's a pretty big on the hitting game.

2:26:12But like genuinely not that many people that I grew up with actually played ice hockey. Right. Most people that I grew up with played ball hockey because ice hockey is so expensive. I spent lots of time on rollerblades. But by the time I was old enough to like participate in roller hockey, I lived in the middle of absolute buttfuck nowhere. So there was no one to do it with. Yeah. And roller hockey also has a pretty major expense problem. As far as my understanding goes, it is cheaper. Yeah. But it's still a pretty major expense problem. so that was my kind of answer is that you like it, watch it would like to do it, never have by the way, hear me out we finally got one we got an LED wall this is so incredibly unrelated did you see it?

2:26:58no it's not unrelated, it's very related trust me we didn't get the wall but we did get a wall

2:27:11so i saw it in operation last night but did you it was just playing white bars okay so like i i saw it in operation today one of the first thoughts i had was hey guess what's coming up yeah winter olympics baby oh i really like watching the olympics so i sent a i sent a note over to HR. I want to do at least quarter semi finals watch parties on the wall. Yeah. On the AWOL. Yeah. Dude, this thing is incredible. It's incredible. Sick. Very excited. Did they put the long Linus image on it yet? No. Probably not. It will happen. I'm sure it will. They'll also play Crab Rave on it at some point. Almost certainly.

2:27:56Yep. Okay.

2:28:02Once upon a WAN show, Linus said something like, Life is about sales and equating it to finding a mate. Would you expand on that more? Assuming I'm remembering this somewhat accurately. Okay, no. I understand what they're saying, though. Yes, yes, yes. That is a topic. So not quoting it exactly perfectly. So what I said was that everything in life is aided by a familiarity with sales techniques. is what I was trying to get across. And what I was explaining is that just because you don't work in sales, selling cables or fancy blue screwdrivers or whatever it is, doesn't mean that you can ignore the principles of salesmanship because everything from selling your idea to a colleague, you can have the best idea in the world, but if you can't convince anybody else of it, then the world will be worse for you not being able to sell that idea.

2:29:04Do you kind of get what I mean? And in the same way, selling yourself, the value of yourself, can help you make connections, whether they're friendships or whether they're relationships. And so learning to speak, learning to sort of analyze something and figure out what's good about this, what needs do you have, and is this a match these are just extremely valuable skills that we think of as like sales ew ik sales but can be very important just in life in everything that you do and one of the examples i gave was yes finding a romantic partner

2:29:51hi dll hope you're having a great friday linus what was your favorite part of the process of developing the true spec cables um i got pretty excited when i first saw the cable stock um and i was like she's thick um like that was pretty cool um i'm just like seeing i i learned a lot uh that's that's one of my favorite things about whatever it is whether it's like a like a content acquisition or like a video we're making that's different from anything we've done before or a product externally your most excited communication was about like the facts yeah like this is really interesting like when we were down at that uh land house yeah and you got the one person excited you were talking about the coaxial nature and like all these different things like you're you're into the the specs and how it became a thing yeah i like to i like to i like to solve problems i like to learn about problems i like to um i like it when something is just like better so yeah i guess that's about it but yeah makes sense yeah just the the the shielding um learning you know why every other cable is the way that it is and learning that it doesn't have to be like that it was pretty cool dear wandan thank you luke sure linus My ma 'am?

2:31:20Where did you ever... Did you ever meet or talk to Jason Momoa when you were at The Tonight Show? I didn't get to. You mentioned being excited and you never talked about it afterwards? No, I didn't get to. I saw him without his pants on. Nice. Is that a unique experience? I don't know, to be honest. Not sure. Okay. Okay. This one's for Luke, then. it often seems like you're the voice of reason or morals on the wan show what is the most memorable time you've had to step up and say something at lmg oh not on the wan show i was going to be like okay that's pretty obvious answer uh i have no idea it happens on the wan show a lot more explicitly than basically anywhere else that's not just because lanus on the show it's because it's live um there's a lot less like pressure to correct when it's not live and people will much more often catch themselves because when we're on the WAN show it's about the next thing at all points in time and when you're in like a meeting you might say something and then think about what you just said while someone else is talking for a little bit and then correct and it's like it's more casual right so it's like I think it's less WAN show is also performative to a degree like we're live we're not um so there's pushing things to extremes because it's supposed to be a show we'll play devil's advocate we will we will sort of we'll we'll be a little more a little more animated i wouldn't say that luke and i are not like real on the wan show i think if anything pretty real it's a it's kind of a relief to do show because we can just kind of kind of drop the charade um but it's still a show but it's still a show an amount and number one is still make an entertaining show uh we can't just go full business meeting on the show at least not all the time sometimes sometimes it's useful actually um i don't know i'm not trying to cop out i just i don't know um you also got to remember that part of it is like Luke's role on the show like just because I say something and Luke steps in and is the voice of reason doesn't mean that behind the scenes there aren't things that we agree on I might my position might be a lot closer to his even if the way that I explained it isn't great and his position might be a lot closer to mine even if he knows that you guys can't hear that right now like my eye started twitching on that one um i'm wondering like i don't know man

2:34:08oh like some of our some of our like biggest scandals have just become kind of a mainstream opinion at this point like the ad block is piracy one is a great example my thing i'm still honestly mostly just confused on that one because like i don't know you were framed as like voice of reason on it but i don't think you ever actually like said you disagreed was i framed a voice reason on that in general yeah i think you were on that one i don't know about that one i don't know how you said it originally you you do this thing sometimes where you you calibrate on wanshow that's true where you'll say something like that's true really intensely and dramatically and then get the feedback and be like all right well all right that's a perfect example is that where we were like, okay, fine, we'll call it privateering because actually, technically, piracy is this, you know, rigidly defined crime, and it's not a crime what I'm doing.

2:35:04That's nice, but...

2:35:09Functionally speaking... I think it just doesn't offend me. Like, at all. Well, it's... I don't know why people get so upset about it. It's because you're not an insecure little bitch. Maybe. Honestly, though. I just don't care. Well, I know. It's because you're not an insecure little bitch. That's why. It's that simple. And see, this is one of those things where I'm going to say this thing, and then he's going to kind of do the Luke thing where he kind of like absorbs sort of my very direct energy, and he laughs and is likable, and you guys like him for it. This is so awkward. Stop perceiving me.

2:35:51um yeah i don't know i uh i think when i wear the hat i wear the hat proudly and just don't care well yeah that's because you're not an insecure little bitch this is part this is this is part of what i think linus was saying the whole time which is that he's not actually judging you for it yeah he's just saying that it is a thing and that's fine and back in my day everyone that i knew wore the hat proud yeah i i didn't think like who cares when i said it i didn't think it was going to be controversial i thought this whole community wore the hat proud so at that point dude i was so confused by the i'm still confused there's people who are still mad at me about it i also think there's good reasons there's there's malvertising there's like all these other kind of things but just just wear the hat dude whatever i yeah i don't know i don't know man we never said don't do it we said what i said what i said was you need to understand the consequences yeah and there are consequences there are consequences yeah like the erosion of independent news media is a consequence of people not being willing to pay for it that's a consequence yeah okay the current degradation of the youtube service maybe would have happened anyway but the rate that it's going at is almost certainly a consequence of not every user contributing monetarily to the service's ongoing operation these are consequences not saying don't do it i'm just saying understand the consequences and if you're gonna wear the hat just fucking wear it wear it and just don't worry about it and you don't have to it's not it's not like if you're like oh i'm very against like pirating you know music and games and books the the only thing that i do in this field is ad blogging you still wear the hat just with your your special caveats everyone has their own lines everyone's lines are slightly different and that's totally okay and when someone calls you on it don't go home crawl into your bed curl up in a ball and cry like a little bitch and i think there's still i think on top of that there's a good argument of like and this isn't it's not against the law to do ad blocking to be clear but even if it was like at very few points if any in history has the law been truly a good moral compass for everyone yeah we've had to have that conversation with our kids a couple times actually like just because it's a more advanced conversation I suspect those were more recent but like yeah i'm not yeah oh i need to go pretty quick all right what time am i supposed to be where i'm supposed to be i was told uh okay oh okay that's not bad i thought it was i thought it was six okay cool they might have told us on that on purpose which would have been a gamer move yeah wicked smart yeah tell that to iran i'm sure the vast majority of people in iran feel that very strongly right now like yeah i don't think i have to tell that to her i think they know i don't think they'd hear it i think their internet is turned off right come on team speak hello dll linus i wanted to ask how your expedition 33 is going where are you act wise and how we and how woo are you feeling about it nice what is your current party you don't even get the reference i don't but I really liked how Dan voice acted it.

2:39:27Current party config is all ladies all the time. They're my girls. And part of it is because I just like their style. And part of it is that I invested a lot of Lumina points into them. And as far as I can tell, that's the one thing you can't respect. So, yeah. Lumina, Lumia, whatever it is. the points that allow you to assign more abilities and whatnot that are not directly equipped to them. So, yep, I've got my absolute fire goddess, Mile, and then I've got Lune with the cheater ability so that she can one-two punch just the cheap lightning one, and then the absolute atom bomb Earth single target attack, and then what have I got going on with Seal?

2:40:17I forget. Basically, she's a nuke in general. so good stuff um i have no idea if that's the right meta i i i've been studiously avoiding spoilers and anything that will affect the way that i play the game i'm not even gonna be looking at chat right now because i just want to play the game and enjoy the game and if i ever do another run through then i'll be more than happy to like search for where to find you know that ability or that weapon or you know whatever else but i want to explore the game world i want to immerse myself in it i want to have fun i don't want to uh i don't want to i don't want it to become a job i want to play a game and i'm just enjoying the heck of it i'm like ridiculously over leveled at this point just because i just want to like fight everything and explore everywhere and it's been it's been an absolute blast i'm really enjoying the game i'm on the third act um what else can i say that would not have any spoilers in it to speak of um how's it going where are you act wise how you feeling about yeah really really enjoying it though such a such a good game you've been playing for a while though yeah i think well it's hard to tell my my hours in game get kind of messed up when i um i didn't mean it that way using the gpd win 5 and it doesn't go to sleep and the game is open so it gets like an extra eight hours on it overnight so steam says 50 hours but it's probably more like 30, 35, but yeah, I've been enjoying the heck out of it.

2:41:44I have completed all of the beaches. Those of you who are in the know will know. So someone said that I hadn't done the most frustrating one yet when I said something about one that was very frustrating. No, you have. I have. I actually did not find it as frustrating as the one that I had done before. It was just kind of, there's a little bit of luck involved in one of them. but i have done them all and gotten the utterly worthless rewards from all of them and i proudly have my worthless rewards a couple more here bingle dongle dingle dangle how absurd are your plans for tech house can we look forward to voice activated chandeliers of fruit or local llm butlers in the wall Not absurd.

2:42:28Guy, our buyer, our target for it, is meant to be like, you know, a guy. Guy? Yeah. You named your theoretical buyer? Yeah. That's kind of neat. Yeah, his wife is Gal. Guy and Gal. Yeah. Nice. Guy and Gal. So we kind of created a profile for him and there was some concern raised in the community that, you know, the things that we were doing might not have wife acceptance factor considered. Okay, so this is a way to keep that in mind. But this is a hundred percent. We know from the start that that was going to need to be a thing. Gal needs to accept it. Yeah, exactly. So we need to make sure that it is acceptable to her.

2:43:06So there will be places that are going to be a little bit more guy zone. But one of the things that Jordan was doing today as he went through with our camera crew and got some before shots was he brought someone with two X chromosomes to ask the important questions like, where would i put a full length mirror things that we and gi may not consider but we absolutely do need to accommodate stuff like that so should be a good balance linus how do you like the garment i've been wearing one for many years and i low it's fine i i think i just might not be a smart watch person i think that might be the bottom line for me i might get a casio calculator watch or something because i think i'm just those are pretty sick i think i'm just over it those are pretty sick yeah and the last one i have you can you can get like baller casios um watch custom i'm not a watch guy uh i can't be i would lose it immediately nice i don't know if i want to like advertise this guy's site um i don't want to get an analog watch my brain is usually too tired to figure out what time it is yeah digital this guy customizes casios what makes them like a bunch of different that's cool this one i think it looks pretty sweet i haven't seen that before but it reminds me of like 80s car speedometers that's super cool there's a there's a bunch of different types oh my goodness there's so many again i would never buy one for myself i would lose it instantaneously how is the watch market so big that like this exists i just don't understand it yeah it's the only fashion accessory for men that's so not true belts earrings oh there they are okay not earrings if you're cool you can have the day things of like leather strips and stuff yeah yeah some people do that some pull it off cufflinks okay maybe not as much of a thing anymore yeah last one i've got greetings earth humans have you had issues with unexpected items being put through the ct scanner who is the first to scan their lunch and have you found issues with non-standard materials not that i'm aware of i don't think anybody yet okay yeah not entertaining we have a pretty good company full of pretty reasonable people it's a really good question but i don't think we can answer it super well i'm i am certain there has been some things you might not necessarily expect scanned but lucas would honestly be the better person to ask that maybe next time you see him post a labs article on reddit you can give him an ask binky draws says linus consider watches are cool if you like mechanical things totally cool and i can go to a bulgari store and i can look at it and i can be like whoa that's cool and then i can leave it sounds like what i would do i might skip the first step it's like the zoo i could i could go and i could see an animal and i'd be like wow cool animal and then i could go home there was i don't know man i heard about this watch one time where they're like oh it tracks the like phases of the moon that's so cool i was like wow that sounds really let's learn all about it so i looked it up and then was like have you ever seen it uh i think so i think i know the one you're talking about um sounds like a petite philippe or something i think it's a rolex 32 and a half thousand dollars we got it oh an entry level one nice yeah that's that's so cool 32 and a half thousand dollars pre-owned yeah that's great and it looks fantastic yeah it looks beautiful yeah nice great starter watch for yeah uh low income like you know what if someone had a if someone had a little like one and a half times someone had a little watch museum and they had the watches and they had like a little placard that you could read about it and that could actually be quite interesting especially if they have like versions where you could see the motion or if like they had a little interactive like like like blow up thing that so you could see how what everything's doing inside turn the thing yeah which makes the motion move of a watch that is like could you take a novelty picture with the watch that'd be so cool probably not and you gotta pay a lot for that I would I would enjoy the heck out of that museum experience that'd probably be pretty sweet but I it's just it's not the kind of thing that I think they look super neat yeah I'm not gonna buy one I don't know man I don't know what it would take for me to G-Shocks yeah people like G-Shocks my my smart watch is round and it has a screen in it and then it can display pictures of those other watches on my watch i had this conversation with somebody the other day that basically went like i understand the concept of jewelry but i think i would just rather have the raw metal

2:48:19that's a wait someone else said that no no that was me who said that but i was like that's a it's very lightest i was having a conversation with them about jewelry um that could actually be an art piece jewelry statement which makes it even better how much how much just like wearing a hunk of gold that doesn't tell time on your wrist yeah you know it's the person like that's actually good that could probably sell for a lot of money i've got nowhere to be it doesn't matter what time it is i've seen one that was like a little tiny whiteboard and it had a micro marker like attached to it and you could just write the time on it that's cute mine has just reinvented the bracelet how big oh no you gotta have a gold wire just manually bend it around your arm don't you have like six ear piercings i do i have a bunch of ear piercings i think they're gold they might also just be sterling silver i don't even know what they are and in the entire time that i've been on the internet they haven't changed except if i lost one so i i really don't i don't think about it a lot gold bar bracelets exist you've got to be kidding me gold bar bracelet okay let's let's check this out let's check this out that's not a gold bar no we need like an actual no i want to see a gold bar yeah no this is not i mean with the amount of money that it would cost to buy that moon phase watch you can buy it the the googles are i think these things might be out of date there's a lot of disagreeance um but it's like 7.3 troy ounces which i don't necessarily know what that converts to um no the thing i'm looking for doesn't exist okay sorry i'll go over it would be like a no i already closed it it'd be like a bar of gold on a strap yeah that's what he's talking about yeah like Would you want it to be a gold strap or just like a leather strap with a bar of gold stuck on it?

2:50:17Because you want all the gold condensed, right? Yeah, that's smart. Yeah. So I was thinking more of an unrefined like lump. We're talking this thing. Yeah. On a strap. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But would you want it to look like a bar? Because to me, the kind of, I just want the raw metal. It would be like an unprocessed hunk of gold. Like you would melt it down and be 100 % gold. But then it would just kind of like be in a lump. If you were like a prospector and it was like gold that you like mined or something. Totally. Then that's badass. Yes. But if you're just trying to flex, then no, it's got to be, it's got to be like proper Canadian.

2:50:52Oh, no, this wasn't flex. This was art statement. Okay. Like it's got to be, it's got to be four nines, Royal Canadian Mint, proper gold. Plus a leather bar, a leather band. Awesome. You know that streamer who did the, I've got your whole house on my wrist thing? Yeah. I've got your whole watch on my wrist. i love that i think i can see an entire series where you have um you have different watch price points and they're all leather bands but the cost of the watch has a different amount of gold in it so like 35 000 of gold you have a patek philippe that's like 1.2 million you have this big lump of gold but they're all like the same watch and then you can just compare your lumps of gold and it It would be the same, depending on market forces.

2:51:39I was going to say, all the pricing for the watches could just be market rate. Absolutely. Sorry, excuse me, five nines. The Royal Canadian Mint was the first to reach five nines. That'd be a great art series. Somebody should do that. Linus, can I borrow$27 million? Actually, it's less after today. It's just a small project. Thank you for tuning in. We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. No, Dan. Bye!

2:52:17We'll see you next time.

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