Sora is Dead - WAN Show March 27, 2026

16:41Luke Lafreniere:just highlight uh as we move out of the sora discussion the time that luke and riley tried Sora and played around with it last October. That is over at lmg.gg slash flowplane. That's a pretty fun little exclusive over there. All right, Dan. The paper says headline topic, but we're done that. I don't know what to do. You know what? Actually... I'm lost and confused. I think I do know what we're going to do. More topics. No. Okay, I'll take the paper down. There's going to be so... Why do I bother? There's going to be so many topics today, Dan. But first, I need to...

17:17Linus Sebastian:Where are we doing more?

17:18Luke Lafreniere:Where is it? What are you doing? I need to do the CW announcements today. Oh, it's like right at the top. I know. I couldn't find it. Listen. Can you bring up the new product? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This week, we launched our magnetic cable management flexible arches. They flex, so you can route cables around corners or on rounded things like table legs and put them in all those spots that aren't perfectly flat. way more easily. We used overmolding to keep the magnets in a rigid core while the arch itself can bend so you still get that strong magnetic hold without compromise. And the flexibility opens up a ton more options like tighter runs, going around edges, and even mixing these with our regular arches to build your setup exactly the way you want.

18:13Luke Lafreniere:You can get yours today at lmg.gg slash flexible arches. Also, if you're curious about our design process for these, we broke the whole thing down in our newsletter. So you can check that out. And if you haven't already, you can sign up for more behind the scenes on how we build things. Is this, hold on.

18:34Linus Sebastian:Is it, are you buying three?

18:37Luke Lafreniere:Uh, yes, I believe so.

18:39Linus Sebastian:I don't know if that's super clear.

18:42Luke Lafreniere:Uh, scroll down, scroll down. uh it's a very long description and my eyes are going kind of blurry product information there you go maybe product information should be above the other one maybe or it should be like in the

18:56Linus Sebastian:title or something yeah yeah yeah we could probably do that i was not the only one that questioned that yeah okay good to know good to know nice but yeah you're getting three you're

19:07Luke Lafreniere:not getting one solid uh here's the here's the newsletter you guys should definitely sign up for the newsletter is pretty cool uh we're going to be working on doing a lot more of this kind of stuff uh putting in some more like technical deep dives of um you know how we're creating these things so getting into things like injection molding tooling dyes uh color uh all that kind of like geeky stuff that you might not you might not care about but if you do care about it's it's actually really cool i've learned so much just working with the creator house oh yeah creator warehouse team over the years.

19:42Luke Lafreniere:Also on the store, do we still have the tax write-off sale running? Yes. It is the final day of the tax write-off sale, March 20th to 27th. So if you guys are wanting to pick up a mystery screwdriver for$50 CAD, that's on the Global Store. Mystery hoodies for$30 Canadian. We have mystery t-shirts for$15. Tall shirts,$15. we have open box commuter backpacks but they're they're like new they're in like new condition and you can get these for just 130 canadian dollars with a bunch of really good stuff in this sale so make sure that you check it out now because that's a perfect way to send a checkout message is picking up something either the flexible magnetic cable arches or something from the tax right off sale all you have to do oh shoot the mystery screwdrivers are apparently sold out well anyway going to the hoodie we apparently have smalls in stock still all you have to do is add something to your cart say i would like my purchase to appear as a checkout message it will show your first and last name or it can be anonymous if you prefer you type up something and you click check out your order will go to or your message will go to producer dan who will reply to it or just pop it up down there or who will curate it for us to do a checkout message response dan do you have any should we just do them now let's do them now let's do one now sure that's all i got hi specifically luke it's an interesting name for luke anyway i like it specifically luke not lucas not lucaniel not luke zaya maybe that one just luke luke is i actually i like just luke too specifically luke is a good nickname just luke it dear god okay sorry i'm gonna call you that from now on um anyway what happened to the hype around the 9070 xt i love mine but everyone kind of makes me wish i got a 5070 ti also i will pay hundreds for a black shaft screwdriver

21:49Linus Sebastian:uh i mean i think it's just like classic nvidia bias where just like i mean having what is it 95 market share is going to make people yeah yeah i don't think it's necessarily that you like made a bad choice or anything like that it's just look at that look look at look at that wow so if people are going to talk about cards it's probably going to be the cards that they have and if 95 of people have that card it doesn't even specify the card it just says wow there's amd radeon tm graphics and there's also amd radeon graphics i think these are on

22:31Luke Lafreniere:board uh yeah i think these are both like one of them is not trademarked on board ones um so you have to go all the way down to bazillionth place to find a single amd discrete gpu yeah it's a generation old and they're they're looking at less than one percent of the market yeah of steam gamers then you got to go a generation older and more mainstream newer mainstream how far do we have to go to find a 90 something xt last gen flagship at 0.5 percent oh fallen to 0.27 percent of gamers whoopsie doodles and like it's actually very surprising i get eight it's above the 90 did i miss it jeez i don't think so i didn't see it you might have but i

23:30Linus Sebastian:didn't see it yeah so like i and it's like just like a lot of things it's kind of a chicken and egg problem to a certain degree where a lot of people are just buying nvidia um and that kind of informs the pre-build market a lot of the pre-build market is only really serving nvidia gpus because of that um but then a very surprising for me and likely for you because you seem to be in the community of people that's building their own computers um a massive amount of people buy pre-builds like way more than i ever would have thought um it's it's a huge market actually even

24:10Luke Lafreniere:from brands that you might traditionally think of as diy like hardcore like msi apparently it's like i don't know if this is on the record or not well whatever i'm going with it what's cliff gonna do yell at me um msi is apparently just like slaying it as a system integrator yeah and like i mean yeah it makes sense right it's not like they don't have motherboards and gpus so like what they could sell you a motherboard and a gpu or hear me out here you go

24:43Linus Sebastian:it's just it's just obvious it just works right it's kind of funny that the hard part it's ram now um but normies are scared of building their computers i think that's part of it i think an actually really surprising amount of it is people just don't want to bother um like i i experienced this for the first time kind of as i was ending my my time working at like best buy and stuff like that where there was a buddy of mine who was one of my supervisors at best buy who had moved on and was doing a more advanced job now and we were chatting he was talking about how he was going to he was going to get a computer built by ncx ncx had a cool service where it wasn't it was pre-built but you could configure it yourself and then they'd build it for like 50 bucks or something.

25:27Luke Lafreniere:It was 50 bucks for a long time. In fact, I think you could get it as cheap as 25 if you used the old classic PC builder interface where we didn't even bother putting together like recommended configs for you. Okay. Like 25 bucks for someone to build a computer and they did a pretty good job.

25:42Linus Sebastian:And they tested it. It was warrantied if I remember correctly.

25:44Luke Lafreniere:They made sure everything worked and they gave you a one year warranty on the system as a whole. Yeah. And they treated the sale like a parts sale. So a lot of hardware manufacturers will actually give you a different warranty for your parts if it was through a system integrator. So NCIX would give you an invoice for all your individual parts and all the boxes and packaging and accessories. And then there would be another line item for the build. That just says PC build service or something like that. So what that means is two and a half years down the line, when your NCIX PC warranty is up, you can contact ASUS and get a new motherboard.

26:22Luke Lafreniere:if you are so inclined.

26:24Linus Sebastian:Yeah, so I actually knew quite a few people who ended up just going that route. I even knew people that had gotten computers built by me and then were like, well, you're busy. I didn't want to bother you. And it was like 50 bucks. So I just did that. And it was like, okay. So I ended up knowing a lot of people who were technical and would have been very comfortable building their own computer, but just kind of had a lot of other stuff going on and they needed a new computer.

26:50Luke Lafreniere:it's 50 bucks and there's so many things like that i think it's easy for us to be in our bubble where we go i'm so passionate about this thing and i legitimately enjoy it why would anybody pay someone else to do it for them and we forget about all the other things in our lives that we're just not that passionate about and we just don't feel like dealing with like it took me this is an embarrassing amount of time but i had a leak in the differentials and a leak in the shocks and I broke the skid plate on this RC car. Nine years ago. And just didn't get around to fixing it because I bought it as a kit from Arma and so I didn't piece it together.

27:38Luke Lafreniere:I didn't know exactly what the standard of the particular brushed motor is and I'd never actually installed the differential in the first place. So I didn't even know how to like get at it and open it. And I didn't even know exactly where all the ceiling O-rings were in the shocks. Like I didn't, I just, I didn't, I'd never put it together. So I didn't understand how it went together. And that barrier of not knowing exactly what to Google in order to find the answer that you need was high enough that I just, it just sat in my garage for years and years and years. Avon Fox says, never put your toys away, use this mantra for everything.

28:18Luke Lafreniere:This may surprise you, but the last nine years have been pretty busy for me.

28:24Linus Sebastian:Yeah, sometimes you don't really have that luxury. Peter pointed out taxes. I actually think that's a really good, but a little bit more dramatic comparison of like, I could do my taxes. I get my taxes done by an accountant these days just because I don't want to worry about it. Yeah. What if I do something wrong? Yeah. I'd kind of really rather it just didn't go wrong.

28:52Luke Lafreniere:Sometimes the stakes are so much higher than the cost. It's the risk reward calculation, right?

29:00Linus Sebastian:Cheaper not to pay them.

29:04Yeah.

29:05Linus Sebastian:Speaking of not paying, someone else said it's$50 plus$100 for Windows. I'm pretty sure NCX would let you build a computer on the computer configurator without Windows. They did. And then they would just have a drive with Windows to test with and they would just take it out. And then they'd nuke the Windows install. Yeah, so like, no, actually, you didn't have to do that.

29:23Luke Lafreniere:And CIX was kind of based in some ways. There were some ways that, you know, look, I've made it very clear. I didn't agree with some of the direction they were going for the business. I've also made it very clear that just because they listened to me would not have necessarily meant success. They were headed into a very challenging landscape with Amazon coming hard at Canada and Newegg doing the same. but there were some things about ncix that were were pretty cool yeah i had no other computer shop that i can imagine would have let me come in on a weekend borrow their known good working hardware to troubleshoot my computer so that i could buy whatever replacement part i needed like that was that was crazy and they were just they had a pretty yeah let's make it work kind of culture within the rigid confines of their policies sure yeah it's i think the best way

30:18Linus Sebastian:that i could probably put it um yeah so it's i don't know i i i understand it is frustrating i do think this is a big part of the reason why we have 95 market share on nvidia and like i'm pretty sure zero for intel which is why we keep talking about the graphics cards because we're trying to Hope them. Hey!

30:36Luke Lafreniere:Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Topic proc? Is it time for...

30:40Linus Sebastian:Can we just proc a topic?

30:40Luke Lafreniere:...our weekly Intel Arc B580 MSRP check?

30:45Linus Sebastian:We haven't done this in a long time. Well, listen. It's supposed to...

30:49Luke Lafreniere:It's not really weekly anymore.

30:50Linus Sebastian:It's bi-weekly.

30:51Luke Lafreniere:Thank you for that, Dan. I gotta call back in. All right, what do we got here? An Asrock Challenger for$300. Steel Legend$309. Okay, we've got an Onyx Lumi Arc for$2.89. Do we get any bonuses with it? Do we get any games or anything like that? We don't. No. We don't. $40 over MSRP. Okay, all right. Well, in the midst of the RAM-pocalypse, we can no longer get an ARC B580 for MSRP, but there is a silver lining. There's an open box ASRock Challenger, final sale, non-refundable. That's for$2.59. So it's there. open box product disclaimer how scary is this thing oh my god why wouldn't you just link me to it in the first place why you make me click two things previously open and unused

31:48Luke Lafreniere:usually do not come with a warranty however warranty may be available if it was never

31:54Linus Sebastian:registered by the previous owner oh that's uh accessories may or may not be included can be pretty sketch for certain products like if it didn't come with the i-o shield for a motherboard

32:03Luke Lafreniere:it i'd be pretty cheesed yeah i'd be pretty irritated by that too with a gpu i'd say there's not too many accessories i really need oh yeah that's fair um uh 289 that's a that's a downer but i also can't go too hard at uh onyx or at intel given the current state of things and the fact that that is a 12 gig gpu for 289 and you sure as heck are not getting anything with 12 gigs

32:28Linus Sebastian:for that you know if from anyone else if intel is listening if you guys could somehow flip the script there's going to be a topic in here about how uh crimson desert didn't support intel cards we'll talk about that more in the future and how it does now um but if you want to flip the script on that it could be really interesting considering it does now get it get it optimized a little bit yeah and then bundle it that'd be crazy to take it from like it didn't work at all to it's now bundled with the card i think would be really cool that'd be crazy i'd love that and i think i think um it was in desert steam bill now yes i was totally born in 1983 on january 1st yeah it's very positive people seem to like it i haven't played it but 83 positive wow yeah yeah that's

33:23Luke Lafreniere:impressive yeah all right cool meanwhile a 50 60 with only eight gigs of vram is 370 bucks so arc b580 is still looking like a pretty spectacular value yeah if you buy one i think we have an affiliate code i always forget what it is is it just lmg.gg slash new egg floatplane chats got me thanks floatplane chat what did they say though i didn't see it yeah lmg.gg slash new egg nice all right should we jump right into a new topic yeah routers actually i want to go with some good news can we do some good news we do some good news do you want to do some medium news nope i want to do good news wine 11 yeah looks like an absolute flipping game changer and the timing of this right in the midst of linux challenge while while we're while we're talking about did you see that reddit thread on the uh ltt subreddit this week someone's like i decided to do the linux challenge alongside elijah yeah i saw that too not going back really cool um all right for the first time even wine 11 so wine is short for wine is not an emulator it's the foundation of uh of Proton and running x86 games on Linux.

34:38Luke Lafreniere:Anywho, Wine 11 uses NTSync, a Wine-specific implementation of the NTSynchronization primitives, mutexes, semaphores, events, etc., that are baked deep into the Windows kernel that are relied upon to keep the various threads of modern, multi-threaded applications, particularly games, coordinated. Up until now, Wine, and by extension, Proton, have utilized eSync and fSync, which were clever workarounds that were developed by Elizabeth Figuera at CodeWeavers, which had some issues, and it's, like, not her fault. But were a massive jump. But they had some challenges because they just weren't deep enough.

35:22Luke Lafreniere:With ntsync, Figuera abends the approach of trying to replicate Windows behavior with existing Linux primitives and instead introduces a new kernel driver now, who's going kernel baby, that directly models the ntsynchronization API and exposes a slash dev slash ntsync device for Wine to talk to. These new features have already been in use in some distros, including Bazite, but beginning with kernel 6.14, the changes have been merged into the mainline Linux kernel, meaning that users of more mainstream distributions won't have to go out of their way to benefit from the new code. Awesome. Now, for many changes, not for many changes, For many games, this is going to be a small or even completely insignificant change.

36:08Luke Lafreniere:But for some games, particularly heavily multi-threaded games, the impact is pretty impressive. Dirt 3 is highlighted here. That's ridiculous. Went from 110.6 to 860.7 frames per second. Wow. Tiny Tina's Wonderlands jumped from 130 to 360, and some previously unplayable games outright, like COD Black Ops 1, are now playable. In other wine news, Wine 11 now has its own complete implementation of WoW 64, so that's Windows 32-bit on Windows 64-bit, the subsystem that allows 32-bit and even 16-bit Windows applications to run on 64-bit systems without needing multi-lib packages. That is so cool. there's a bunch of other smaller updates and tweaks that all come together to make the experience of windows gaming on linux the best it's ever been and you can check out uh dan do you want to throw the link to the xda developers uh article that um that brought this to our attention in the various

37:13Linus Sebastian:chats another thing that feels fantastic wow voice crack that feels fantastic about this

37:22Linus Sebastian:another thing that's really exciting about this is you seem to be cursed in regards to timing right there was the the weird steam bug the first time and then there was the like whatever i don't know i i don't follow uh pop os but that that thing with the the desktop environment this time yeah the cosmic thing yep this is the first time i think that the timing has actually been really good yeah because this is how okay we're saying we're in like the middle of the linux challenge i think we're over 30 days okay yeah but like i'm i noticed you were still running it on your laptop i saw that when we uh i mean i'm setting up for the show i'm clearly clearly still linux pilled yeah right now yeah um i know at this point i i really really don't see myself going back to windows on my laptop i had to use windows had to uh use windows on someone else's system recently and it was very icky you rage out about it like just about every week before we start the

38:28Luke Lafreniere:show on this machine yeah yeah because like something will happen like some ai thing will

38:32Linus Sebastian:reinstall itself or recall is like back on here after dan scrubbed recall off the system it's like right now it's it's running okay i don't know how it's using 50 of its ram that's insane but um it's not like going crazy with the fans like it was previously because of failing to install windows updates but like that it's just kind of there's ads there's little pop-ups all over the place it's just kind of annoying so at this point i'm not having any problems with my laptop and it's actually been more productive to have linux installed like i've spent less time fiddling with my operating system with linux installed than with windows so there's like no way i'm going back on

39:11Luke Lafreniere:my laptop i still have issues um the the teams for linux like that weird web app thing uh mostly works really great my webcam is still not working but that's that's a separate issue is that is it working in other applications uh no but teams for linux is just like it doesn't allow me to click a link and then just open in my browser like if i click if i click a link in here it just just doesn't do anything oh that's strange i have not yeah so there's like there's definitely but I mean realistically is it that much work to right click copy link and then and then I can paste and go it is an extra step though it was a few extra steps but you know what I didn't have to do is reaffirm for the umpteen billionth time

40:04Linus Sebastian:no I don't want this to open an edge

40:05Luke Lafreniere:no I do not in fact want this to open an edge

40:07Linus Sebastian:so it's like not even necessarily that much less clicking

40:11Luke Lafreniere:like you're damned if you do you're damned if you don't right So I might as well be damned in my own way.

40:18Linus Sebastian:Yeah. You know? Peter has a take here. Peter from Flowplane says, my personal take is personalization is a red herring. A proper Linux system just works and there's no need to tinker. That's a big part of what I'm talking about when it comes to my laptop. I have Linux Mint running on my laptop and I've had to do nothing. Everything has just worked. It gets out of my way. The updates are really easy, easy to deal with, unproblematic. There's no like, Are you sure you want to not save this to OneDrive? Are you sure? Do you want me to recall that for you? Yes, I'm sure! Do you want to open this webpage in Edge?

40:51Linus Sebastian:There's just like none of that stuff. Would you like to stay signed in?

40:57Luke Lafreniere:Yes!

40:57Linus Sebastian:For the 40 trillionth time.

40:59Luke Lafreniere:Yes, I would!

41:02Linus Sebastian:Yeah, so there's none of that.

41:03Luke Lafreniere:I click the button. I click the button. Don't ask me again every time.

41:08Linus Sebastian:And like, I haven't even changed my background on my laptop. Let alone like anything else like I've done I've done nothing My desktop I've done more tinkering with but my yeah, my laptop I've done nothing. I'm very happy with it

41:21Luke Lafreniere:Would you like to sign into just this application or system-wide? Just this application! How many times do I have to tell you?

41:31Linus Sebastian:Every time because they want it to be system-wide.

41:33Luke Lafreniere:Would you like to sign into MS Paint? No!

41:37Linus Sebastian:Ever.

41:38Luke Lafreniere:Oh, dude. Not ever. dude oh man sorry i'm going off i'm going off now because it's linus's turn i got an email i got an email earlier this week from swift key okay from swift key and i'm gonna show this to you because this this burnt this killed my brain okay so first of all first of all i'm mad because they are they're cramming one drive so far down my throat that it's gonna come out my butt okay from Microsoft. We're writing to let you know that SwiftKey accounts will be retired as of the 31st of May 2026. To ensure a smoother, more secure experience, we'll be transitioning to standard Microsoft account sign-in for all users.

42:23Luke Lafreniere:Why this change? Well, it's part of our effort to make SwiftKey better. Sure. No, it isn't. Blah, blah, blah. Your typing data will be more securely stored in you guessed it OneDrive. Okay, you'll benefit from enhanced privacy, blah, blah. You get a thousand Microsoft reward points, whatever those are. It simplifies your experience by using the same credentials you already use for other Microsoft apps and services. Fair enough. I have a Microsoft account. So sure, fundamentally, this doesn't make a difference to me. If it worked, okay, what does this mean for you? If you already use Microsoft to sign into SwiftKey, your data will be backed up to OneDrive as soon as it's ready.

43:05Luke Lafreniere:No further action is needed. Okay. First of all, Microsoft, I mean, you have my account. You emailed me. So you clearly know how I sign in. Do I use a Microsoft account? I don't know. You tell me. I probably haven't signed into SwiftKey in like a year. That's just for starters. Hold on. If you signed in with a different account, e.g. Google or Apple, you'll need to connect a Microsoft account to continue backing up your data. If you don't have an existing Microsoft account, you can easily create one. with the same link below. Okay, fair enough. Connect your Microsoft account now. Oh my God, this works on mobile.

43:47Luke Lafreniere:That is hilarious. Okay, well, I went on a whole rant because I did it on desktop. Here, I'm going to show... Okay, now I have to show you this to show I'm not crazy.

43:59Linus Sebastian:Yeah, I mean, it is a mobile application, but it's an email, so like...

44:03Luke Lafreniere:So I opened it on my laptop. One second. Okay, this is crazy. Okay, I'm going to click it on here. Connect your Microsoft account now. And it literally just dumps me on the SwiftKey homepage. It doesn't take me to the account. Hold on, hold on. I'm going to use my Linux superpower, super granular screen brightness here. Okay. It just dumped me on the SwiftKey homepage. There is nothing on here about anything to do with account migration. Nothing. There's a link to the Google Play Store. View supported languages. Luke, back me up on this. Oh, yeah, for sure. Back me up on this. Okay. Here's my, you're going to, just so I can prove, no tomfoolery.

44:52Luke Lafreniere:Here's the same email. I'm clicking the same link. You watched me do it. I think I watched it the first time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the page. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, yeah. So, okay, because I use Google to sign in. And so I went and I signed into my SwiftKey account, also on my laptop, because I happened to be on my laptop when I got the email. There was nothing in there about where the data was stored, because I was pretty sure I used a Google account. And there was just nothing in there. You probably would have. So the only way to access this flow is to happen to open it on mobile. That's crazy.

45:32Luke Lafreniere:oh mro mutt says thanks for making me feel normal about this whole swift key thing i went through the exact same thing that's crazy why would you why would you send me to the what why would you send me to just your home page if i open it on desktop or a laptop that you're you're microsoft you know about laptops all right okay i'm marking i'm marking that on red now so that i can deal with this later because i actually would strongly prefer not to lose my my dictionary swift key is a significant part of my stickiness on android yeah um because on ios it sucks and i've never actually verified this but i assume it's due to apple's better privacy probably around third party apps and being able to monitor what you type right uh but for better or for worse i've used swift key for like 10 years now and it has an extensive dictionary of everything that i need to talk about, which includes a lot of tech terms.

46:32Luke Lafreniere:And I care about not having to correct, you know, the same ducking. Sorry, I said ducking, so I didn't have to bleep it. You know, the same ducking thing a million times. And so having a dictionary that really works is really important to me. It makes me more productive. So I would really like to keep my SwiftKey library. So yeah, I'm going to fix that now. Sorry. What were we talking about? I don't remember.

46:55Linus Sebastian:Just Linux stuff in general. I think we're talking about how the Linux challenge is going. I realized, I think it was yesterday, that I should ask, like, oh, when is the Linux challenge over? When last time, I'm pretty sure we were getting, like, weekly updates and all talking together about, like, when we were allowed to go back. And I thought it was interesting that there hasn't really been a lot of chatter. And with how it's been being filmed, I feel like it's going to be going on for, like, a while longer. Yeah. And I'm totally fine with that. I think the only thing drawing me back right now...

47:32Linus Sebastian:Is there like an impending game launch or something? Yeah. I really liked Forza Horizon 5. I didn't play any of the previous ones, but I had honestly a lot of fun with Forza Horizon 5. It's a great game. And Forza Horizon 6 is coming on May 19th. But I genuinely... With the experience that I had very recently of using someone else's Windows machine, I genuinely think I might dual boot and just treat it like turning on a console. Right. I'll dual boot play horizon when I'm done just boot back into Linux. Do you think it'll work on wine 11?

48:02Luke Lafreniere:No, ah, I'm pretty anti dual boot I I don't I don't know if I can explain why I don't like it either. It's like It feels like horizon is support on the next really horizon 5 is gold apparently I just looked it up on proton DB while you were talking about it.

48:19Linus Sebastian:Wow. Yeah, I didn't expect that i mean i didn't expect that because the multiplayer that was my guess is cheating a major issue in forza horizon i don't i don't think i ever played online i don't care at all it was the single player game that i wanted to play so like even if you just like can't play multiplayer or whatever that is completely fine for me i i do not care um okay chat says uh it a stupid amount of cheating okay yeah i mean i'm not too surprised yeah didn't didn't uh valve just ban a million accounts is that i didn't see that in the doc i didn't see that this week and million yeah that's wild they're all playing cs yeah nearly a million cheaters banned in counter-strike 2 960 000 accounts like cheaters are just in everything you know what's so funny

49:11Luke Lafreniere:is the first thing I was about to say when I read out that chat that yeah, cheating's everywhere in Forza Horizon 5 was like who would want to cheat in a racing game? And then I was like, okay, right but I could apply that exact same logic who would want to cheat in a shooting game? Who would want to cheat in a strategy game? Wouldn't that just defeat the entire purpose of playing the game and determining who's better at the game? Right, yeah.

49:35Linus Sebastian:Same logic applies across the board I suppose. it's not just okay so someone pointed out those accounts with afk cs games to get weekly case drops yeah i heard that was a thing there's a video i saw where uh somebody joined a public match as a spectator yeah and all the bots detected that someone was a spectator meaning they could see their gameplay and they just all disconnected at the same time and it was like a massive percentage of the lobby just all auto disconnected um but i've also heard that like people in ranked games will just like openly on the mic ask each other if they're like cheating and if if like four out of five of the players are cheating they'll just vote kick the fifth one

50:16Linus Sebastian:i don't know if it's like real huh it could have been staged and acted out but yeah it's like way too much um but yeah the forzen horizon 5 the single player campaign was amazing all the additional add-ons were really cool they collaborated with donut and there's like a donut media little like mini challenge thing in it which was like pretty sweet where you had to like build up a car and blah blah blah blah it was awesome so i'm looking forward to six but i mean if if it has a gold rating maybe i'll just wait and then play it on linux anyways i don't need to play on release day i don't care about that and balvard says

50:51Luke Lafreniere:real racers and real race cars are cheating too you know mercedes this year and their f1 engine is probably illegal okay that one i understand that just like there's big money involved yeah

50:59Linus Sebastian:and that's like as far as my understanding goes it's part of the fun of f1 is watching the different teams and how they work around the rules and then adapting year to year that's like i a bunch of people that i know that watch watch it because they find the technological engineering side of it to be more interesting than anything else so i don't know all right why don't we

51:19Luke Lafreniere:jump into another topic here maybe we should do a short one here sure uh this is just more of an fyi than anything else ubiquity has patched three significant flaws in their software and firmware including a path traversal vulnerability found in version 10.1.85 and earlier of the unify network application aka unify controller and unify express version 9.0.114 and earlier uh see the security advisory for details and patch as soon as possible uh very very important because that's uh that's really bad it can allow account takeover so patch all your unify stuff please please please please please and the source here is ubiquity here's the advisory bulletin you're going to want to let more people than this need to see it and make sure that they act on this this is very very important network infrastructure not to be taken lightly as far as security goes i'm doing right now uh hope you're like home stuff okay good okay i was like this is no no no no no i don't do that anymore no okay on the subject i'm sorry on the subject had to intervene there on the subject of networking infrastructure and security routers are illegal in america now okay that's a bit of a sensationalist headline but it's also not that far off yeah an fcc policy update earlier this week effectively bans the sale of consumer grade routers that are not made in the u.s which as far as we can tell is pretty much all of them except some percentage of star link routers unless they have already received fcc authorization which i think is going to be a which is which is all of them okay yeah yeah it's so this is kind of like the drone thing remember when they banned all non-us made drones and but then all the ones that are for sale now

53:20Linus Sebastian:are fine honestly to me this kind of rhymes with uh china banning battery banks that aren't made in china is that the case it's it's something like that oh no no it's a particular chinese

53:34Luke Lafreniere:certification yeah that's not made in china that's um that's that's separate that's separate But as far as my understanding goes, it's almost entirely ones that are made in China.

53:43Linus Sebastian:Well, I mean, most battery banks are made in China.

53:46Luke Lafreniere:But like, say hypothetically. CCS? Say hypothetically. No, it's triple C, I believe. Okay. Say hypothetically, we were to make a battery bank. You could get it certified for that. And let's say our cells were made in hypothetically, you know, Korea or, you know, somewhere. Sure. and our PCBs are made, you know, wherever and, you know, whatever, right? Stuff, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We could totally just do CCC certification.

54:14Linus Sebastian:Nothing would prevent that. Are there certification houses outside of China that do that certification?

54:22Luke Lafreniere:No idea, but finding a certification house in China for battery banks is... Gotta be easy. Is pretty simple. They gotta be all over the place. Yeah, it's not a big deal. Yeah, yeah. Okay, there is a little bit more to talk through on this one. It's not clear exactly what constitutes consumer grade, but foreign-made appears to be anything physically manufactured outside the U.S., regardless of what country the company is based in. This policy change comes after the commission received a national security determination, which states that vulnerabilities in foreign-made small and home office routers represent unacceptable risk to Americans.

54:55Luke Lafreniere:An FCC fact sheet clarifies that the update does not prohibit the import, sale, or use of any existing device models that the FCC previously authorized. All new models will need to be approved by DOW of DHS. Or DHS, I think that probably means. I'm going to go with or. There. The FCC notice also offers some details on how companies can obtain conditional approval with exactly zero questions about security. but it must include a detailed time-bound plan for on-shoring manufacturing to the u.s in statements to the verge both tp link and asus expressed confidence in the security of their respective supply chains and neither company gave any indication that they would move any manufacturing capacity to the u.s for consumer routers you want some real expensive routers um yeah i mean is that our conversation our discussion topic for this one there's some like

55:54Linus Sebastian:I don't know how I'd find this Serve the Home had a video on it or what was it Serve the Home? Serve the Home was on Gearlings channel I think talking about a like really cool looking I'm pretty sure it was a router but it was very expensive I mean yeah

56:13Luke Lafreniere:Serve the Home is talking about it it's probably expensive that's a circle things Serve the Home covers and things that are very expensive Perfect circle, completely overlapping

56:26Linus Sebastian:Yeah

56:26Luke Lafreniere:He does a lot of commercial Enterprise grade stuff, he does a great job

56:32Linus Sebastian:Well he was on Gearlings channel and Gearlings sometimes covers some cheaper Stuff, Gearlings also sometimes Covers some very expensive stuff, he does And I think this is 600 bucks And it's probably 600 bucks American Like real dollars A lot of dollars, yeah I think it was this Video, from Jan Jan 2, are you planning to skip that out At some point, thank you, I don't usually watch YouTube with ads you're killing me where where is it it's not that one it's what's in his hand right there i love patrick's shirt nice i love that they're both just like solid color white text nice uh but yeah it's it's a pretty cool looking little thing this one but and i think this is made in the u.s i think i've heard of this thing monorouter specifically dev kit model yeah i think yeah And I'm pretty sure it's made in the US, but it's it again.

57:22Linus Sebastian:It's 600 US dollars final price of the kit right here

57:26Luke Lafreniere:Whoo, I think I've heard of this sir. What's it called mono?

57:30Linus Sebastian:Not made in the US. Oh, it's made in the EU. Okay, well Then it doesn't solve the problem, but it's a cool video and it's a cool little device. Maybe check that out. What do you want Sammy? bye bye zami jack republic oh these guys reached out at me out to me at some point

57:52Luke Lafreniere:oh well did i not reply to them i think i meant to well oops wow good for them that's so cool i remember watching the video they sent me that was about like the development of this thing if it's the one that i'm thinking of we raised five hundred thousand dollars to manufacture our high-end router yeah yeah this thing that's it for sure I recognize the name. Yeah, that's super cool. I totally I did not mean to ghost these guys. I must have just accidentally marked the email. I wasn't trying to set you up

58:23Linus Sebastian:for that.

58:23Luke Lafreniere:I had no idea. No, no, no. I think everyone misses an email from time to time. Yeah, sure. But yeah, wow. Yeah, good for them. That's fantastic. They're across the line now. Right? Was that a...

58:37Linus Sebastian:I mean, it is fantastic, but also I'm pretty sure if you go to his like his actual YouTube channel okay Tomaz right and then what's his last

58:47Luke Lafreniere:oh my god I closed it I'm sorry hold on one sec oh good

58:54Luke Lafreniere:Zaman

58:57Linus Sebastian:He has a recent video.

58:59Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, yeah, yeah. We built a thousand routers and made zero dollars.

59:04Linus Sebastian:Yeah.

59:06Luke Lafreniere:Relatable.

59:09Linus Sebastian:I don't know.

59:13Linus Sebastian:Yeah, right.

59:17Luke Lafreniere:Dude, and then there was the recent thing where Derbauer got completely f***ed over on some not copper. There's something about that. Yeah. it's so funny because every time we make one of those videos that's like, it took us three years to make a screwdriver. Ask me why, you know, we took three years to make a four years or however long it took to make the cables. Why is that? People there, there will inevitably be like a contingent of people in the comments that are like, yeah, it's because you guys are so fucking incompetent. dude creating anything is so hard and i think that it has fundamentally altered my perspective to move from from selling like being a merchant to reviewing and evaluating to actually making to being responsible for everything from the initial funding to the final quality of the delivered product.

1:00:25Luke Lafreniere:It's so much harder. And it's given me, I think, at times, a perspective that people have found abrasive, where I'm, and it can come across, I think, a little bit bootlickery, where I'm like, yeah, but I get it. I see their side. I see their perspective. Because, I mean, here, let's bring up something really uncomfortable. Mod mat. Oh.

1:00:57Linus Sebastian:Oh, you're publicly talking about it. Where is the mod mat? Where is the mod mat? Where is it? Where is it, Linus? Where is it? I know nothing about it. I know it doesn't exist.

1:01:09Luke Lafreniere:Where it is, is it is figuratively in a space that illustrates the challenges of creating physical products. That's where it is right now. Right now, how do we get it out of there? It's releasing on April 1st. No, no, it isn't. It totally is. Sure. No, it's not.

1:01:34Linus Sebastian:April 1st joke is that it's a joke that it's still not out. Yeah. I also didn't say which year Jesus

1:01:48Linus Sebastian:But yeah cool little device Yeah apparently not made in the states Yeah so totally irrelevant To the conversation but maybe go check it out

1:01:56Luke Lafreniere:I wish them luck it's funny how A lot people will assume that anything made in the West is made in the states Like I saw we had a video earlier this week About oh my gosh it's not in the dock arm makes cpus now yeah yeah we had a whole video about that earlier this week you should go watch it because arm instead of just licensing ip or providing sort of prefabbed um you know ready for you to integrate into your own silicon sort of ip guidance and kits uh core designs what do they call them ccs or something c whatever i forget what they call it but basically these like kind of blocks of various IPs that include their processing cores that you can, you know, cobble together your own processor out of.

1:02:40Luke Lafreniere:Instead of just doing that, they actually are going to be directly selling ARM branded silicon in the data center now, specifically for AI. To their credit, what they're after is making AI way more efficient, which is like, if we're going to have ai it being more efficient seems like not terrible um but anyway where was i where is it going with the right uh i saw a bunch of comments that were like oh yeah now we have like you know america made you know an american cpu brand we have america made cpus and something something something it's like bro like acorn started in in europe like what are you talking

1:03:21Linus Sebastian:about it's not american company like what about intel and qualcomm okay so hold on a second

1:03:29Luke Lafreniere:this was something that i i looked up like three times to make sure that i had it right iirftw says uh oh wait no no you're right yeah arm hasn't made their own chips since the bbc micro so arm got up on stage and said this is the first time we're making an arm chip and i kind of went well that doesn't sound right because i thought that was literally like what you guys did the first you know time and there's that famous story of how the arm chip was so efficient that they powered it off and just like there was enough power in the signal lines or something that it would like stayed powered on for a long time or something.

1:04:05Luke Lafreniere:And they came in the lab the next day and it was like still outputting or something. Yeah, it's crazy, crazy efficient chip. But that was made by Acorn. That was before they became ARM, which happened, I think like two or three years later or something like that. I like the Acorn name. This is the first actual ARM CPU.

1:04:26Linus Sebastian:sweet more people should maybe go watch that video yeah yeah it did okay it did okay i mean

1:04:32Luke Lafreniere:and it's the video form of like a press release like i can't benchmark it um but true this uh this has major major implications for the tech industry it was very interesting to me being at the event and seeing arm stock drop during the keynote and i was like really what i don't understand this why is it dropping this actually seems huge and then it popped and then now we're now we're back what what do you what even what even our stock values anymore i don't understand it everything's just based on uh whatever's more entertaining i think balavrid says this happens to apple stock every keynote too really so is this just like like is this like a high frequency machine trading thing that's just like the play you know you stocks are based on vibes yeah i get it and not advice like not advice guys i this is not financial advice um but i i think it's a pretty exciting opportunity i don't love the way that they were so focused on its application for ai in the product announcement because when you tie your cart to that horse, you kind of live and die by it.

1:05:56Luke Lafreniere:And when you look at the implementations of ARM's cores that have already made their way, like you can rent an ARM instance from Amazon right now. Like you can go right now and you can get a Graviton instance and you can like use ARM data center processors right this second. And they don't have to be for AI. they can be for other things and so I would have liked to see them talk a little bit more about what else these CPUs can do because I'm sure they can do other stuff but I also understand why in the current climate with so much build out happening around AI why they focused on it I wish they talked about oh and also all this other stuff, this legacy stuff that will also still exist at some point in the future, we can do that too uh oh disclosure that video was sponsored by arm our trip down was sponsored by arm so take that for for what it is but i'm they're not sponsored here and they're not going to be watching this so i'm yeah same whatever nice nice nice uh oh we should probably do sponsors speaking of sponsors until sponsors no we should do sponsors okay the show is brought to you by a java With the price of memory and graphics cards only going up, building your own gaming rig has gotten very expensive.

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1:10:00Linus Sebastian:I was on that one first.

1:10:02Luke Lafreniere:Which one was your first one? That one? No!

1:10:10Linus Sebastian:Oh, man. Meta and Google found liable in landmark social media addiction trial. Two landmark rulings against social media companies happened this week. Tuesday, a New Mexico jury ordered Meta to pay$375 million for misleading parents about the safety of Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp. Then on Wednesday, an L.A. jury found Meta and YouTube negligent for harming kids through addictive platform design, awarding the plaintiff in the case three million in damages. 70 percent of that from Meta, 30 percent of that from YouTube. The New Mexico case. So the first one grew out of a 2023 undercover sting conducted by The Guardian, like the newspaper.

1:10:55Linus Sebastian:Yeah. OK, cool. To investigate investigative journalism. Let's go. To investigate the risks that children are exposed to on Instagram and Facebook, internal documents and testimony from former employees show Meta repeatedly ignored warnings about child safety. No. Surprise, surprise. No. No one would have ever guessed. The New Mexico, oh, nope, sorry. Law enforcement also testified that Meta's crime reporting was deficient because Meta relied too heavily on AI moderation, generating high volumes of junk reports that made investigations practically impossible. Surprise, surprise again. During that trial, Zuckerberg and Instagram lead or sorry, Instagram head Adam Mosseri testified that that harms to children were inevitable on their platform due to their massive user bases.

1:11:46Linus Sebastian:huh okay um cool the 375 million dollar penalty five thousand dollars per violation with 75 000 violations is substantial but is less than one-fifth of what the prosecutors initially sought though further restitution might be ordered as the case moves to a bench trial in may where a judge will rule on public nuisance claims that could see meta being forced to change how its platforms work. Wow. Awesome. Interesting. Uh, the LA case was a seven week trial brought by a 20 year old woman. Okay. Uh, sure.

1:12:24Luke Lafreniere:Uh, I think the point is just that she's young and pretty much is at an age now where she grew up being impacted by these platforms. Got it. Okay. I think that's the only reason we're mentioning the age.

1:12:35Linus Sebastian:Sure. Um, her argument was that meta and YouTube deliberately designed their platforms with features like infinite scroll. that's kind of the primary one autoplay which kind of ties into infinite scroll i don't really know that many things in infinitely scroll but you have to press the play button and push notifications that exploit dopamine responses to keep kids hooked the plaintiff's lawyers focused on the app's design rather than their content which i actually personally completely agree with which is what allowed them to get around section 230 i think any app that infinitely scrolls you should be looking at critically um anyways meta's defense tied to argue her struggles meta's defense tried to argue that her struggles were caused by other factors a difficult family life bullying at school um they pointed out yeah uh they pointed out this is float plane yeah i think you should scrutinize why it does that and how it affects your usage of the platform and I think the end result it's not algorithmic I think the end result of scrutinizing that on Flowplane is it doesn't really actually do anything which is fine and then I think you can look at a platform like Instagram and be like oh wow this is very clearly designed to keep me going I'm just teasing you I think you should scrutinize it though and I have had this thought before of like oh Flowplane does that but in my case I think it's fine not infinite that's kind of true you do technically come to an end but I think it's I think it's long enough that it could be put in the category still.

1:14:10Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, and I managed to scroll through so many videos that it's like bogged down enough that it's not a great infinite scrolling experience.

1:14:17Linus Sebastian:You're out of the preload. Yeah, it's like the platform is really not designed for that type of infinite scrolling like Twitter, YouTube, Instagram, etc. Facebook, etc. are all designed to really like that is what they're for and they're designed to keep you there and they're going to autoplay everything and all that kind of stuff. Full plane is really not like that, even though it can load a long time. I will defend this forever! Anyways, okay. Yeah, Metta's defense tried to argue that her struggles were caused by other factors, a difficult family life, bullying at school. They also pointed out that notes from six months of therapy didn't mention social media addiction or name any apps.

1:14:57Linus Sebastian:Imagine going after someone that way.

1:14:59Luke Lafreniere:imagine someone saying hey your product damaged me and you being like yo y 'all broken because your family sucks and you were bullied and our platform was just we just uh took advantage of that couldn't help noticing that you had six months of therapy how did they get the notes dude i don't know like what did did she i mean as part of discovery i guess they could ask for

1:15:25Linus Sebastian:something like that can you get notes from your therapy i don't know that sounds crazy that sounds

1:15:30Luke Lafreniere:nuts to me i mean i i've i've never i've never no idea look there's a i am not a litigious person you know if i'm ever i want to make it clear that if i'm ever pushed to pass the limit like i'll yeah i'll i'll i'll do it but i really don't want to and i've managed to be in this industry for this long without ending up in a courtroom. I'd like to keep it that way. What was I going to say here? Yeah, so I don't know how this process works, but from everything I've heard, it sucks.

1:16:08Linus Sebastian:Yes, you can absolutely get therapy notes. Wow, that's super sketch.

1:16:13Luke Lafreniere:So what you're telling me is don't go to therapy. That's not what we're saying. Not advice.

1:16:22Linus Sebastian:I tried I freaking hated it but anyways that's a story for another time maybe not when show jurors nearly unanimously sided with the plaintiff awarding her three million dollars in damages with the jury still deliberating on punitive damages which could significantly increase the payout three million dollars sounded like just a slap on the wrist

1:16:45Luke Lafreniere:but if you sort of look at the bigger picture here there are over 3 000 similar lawsuits pending in california plus more than 40 state attorneys general who have filed against meta and that three million dollars is to one person

1:17:05Linus Sebastian:the floodgates could be open here it could be kind of fun um discussion question section 230 has been the bedrock legal defense for social media companies for 30 years these two juries just rejected it. If that precedent holds up on appeal, what does the social media landscape look like when platforms can be sued for how their algorithms serve content to kids? I think it could

1:17:29Luke Lafreniere:look a lot more like it used to look where you friend people and then you see whatever your friend actually posted.

1:17:35Linus Sebastian:Awesome. The internet being cool again would be so sick.

1:17:38Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, I'd be down. It would be so cool. I would, I'm a little older now. I would use Facebook. Me too. Like the old one. Yeah, me too. I would legitimately use it. I would be an active user. And like you can go on my Facebook, you can see that even when Facebook was... No, Luke, this is not cool. What? Kind of cool.

1:17:58Linus Sebastian:What are we missing then? Hold on, hold on. I'm gonna find me. They want ID laws for app stores? Oh, I think these things are different. Yeah, that's not what we're talking about. I agree with you that that sucks, but I think these things are different.

1:18:09Luke Lafreniere:Where am I? I don't know. I don't know how to find myself on Facebook. I literally don't know how to use Facebook. This is cute though. I don't know. This is from the LTT channel. Nice. Don't talk to me or my son ever again. Good job, social media. Anyway, the point is I posted not at all, but if I was actually posting to people who I actually am connected with and care about, then I'd probably use it just because I don't socially interact with those people in person all the time anymore. and it's it's easy it's convenient it's just it's so it's so unusable now yeah that there's no

1:18:51Linus Sebastian:temptation whatsoever beyond messenger short form dopamine abusing garbage trash content is like everywhere now and it's also on facebook it's just like oh it's especially on facebook i had to go on there to message a family member very recently jumped on facebook on desktop and just like looked around for a sec

1:19:15Luke Lafreniere:and was just like, oh. It's so bad. And if you frequent communities like Am I the A**hole, you'll start to see the like repurposing and recirculation of like AI generated stories with like slightly different twists. And so there'll be a version of it that you notice on Facebook where, you know, he cheated and then this happened and then this happened and then this happened and then there was a thing with my dog and like you've got these stories that are just designed for you to like keep staying engaged to find out what happens next and it's it's all fake except when it isn't but it seems to be all fake.

1:19:54Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, so gross

1:19:57Linus Sebastian:I don't know the comments about the age verification for app stores thing I don't I understand where you're coming from about these things being related because this whole thing is algorithms for kids no but the okay this is i think there are two things happening at the same time that have similar topics and i also think that if we are

1:20:23Luke Lafreniere:if we're talking about this product being designed to be harmful for kids in a way where it's uh keeping you engaged through intentional like dopamine spikes it's not a far reach to go okay but then is it also designed to be harmful to adults yeah and i think it's harmful to everyone and and so we could end up with a very good outcome here you know in much the same way that you know marketing is restricted in many territories around products like cigarettes drugs alcohol uh it used to be for gambling i don't know what happened there we sort of had a good thing and then we decided ah you know what forget it let's just let it go rampant sorry once

1:21:05Linus Sebastian:it's a serious scaper is i think their their name it says this is walking the internet as we know it meaning ltt forum flow plane etc will be liable actually neither of those that you named will be liable at all based on the reading that i've have here because we don't algorithmically serve content yeah we don't do it at all so i i haven't personally read section 230 but the notes that we have in the doc here um say specifically that platforms can be sued for how their algorithms

1:21:35Luke Lafreniere:serve content to kids it's not the content itself that they're liable for because yeah section 230 they didn't create the content they can't be responsible for every user generated piece of content that's uploaded to their sites but what they can be responsible for is curating it algorithmically to generate a stimulus a stimulus response uh chemical reaction in your brain that keeps you hooked on it that's the conversation not the content itself so there's not a single platform that we operate that would fall under that and serious scaper is making a bit of a slippery slope argument here about this opening the door is the sort of the next thing that they're saying here and you know what maybe i i personally do not immediately dismiss a slippery slope fallacy argument because there's plenty of historical precedent for the slippery slope absolutely being a thing where i take issue with your argument though is that i don't think that this slope that we're on in this particular ruling leads to repealing section 230 or or significantly revising it i don't think that anyone in their right mind is going to make a platform responsible for every single individual thing that a user posts because it's not realistic

1:23:04Linus Sebastian:it's just plain not realistic yeah algorithmic suggestion is is quite different from ugc

1:23:13Linus Sebastian:it's interesting i think something needs to change i i totally understand the whole slippery slope thing and that being a concern i think where we're at now is like extremely toxic and extremely negative for all of humanity that is connected to the internet and has to be addressed somehow i don't know that this is the best way i don't know that this leads us down the best path okay

1:23:35Luke Lafreniere:something's got to change i do think sirius scaper might be a little bit um kind of barking down the wrong path a little bit saying literally the ones who want laws to pass that would require id laws aka surveillance is these giant tech companies and this is the next step no no no they want ID laws and all of that. They want more personal information. They oppose this. They lost this case. This lawsuit, they lost it. This is not the direction they want to go. This is the opposite of what they want right now. So this is, we're not saying, yes, this is good because it benefits Facebook and Meta and Google.

1:24:18Luke Lafreniere:That's not what happened here. What happened is meta and google lost yeah in a way that is has the potential to make the kind of algorithmic serving of content that has become so addictive um that it is doing measurable damage to a generation of people uh illegal hopefully or at least financially impractical we should stop this

1:24:45Linus Sebastian:topic but i'll throw in one last thing it says literally the parents of the kids in this case came out and said pass COSA, which is a surveillance law. Yeah, but that's not what the case was about. Right. They can say whatever they want. They could come out and say chicken wings are better than burgers or I prefer hot dogs and waffles suck and I'm a pancakes boy and it wouldn't mean anything. But anyways, let's talk more good news. I understand your point and I think it is a valid concern. Bigger battle mage is

1:25:16Luke Lafreniere:here. the arc pro b65 and b70 were announced earlier this week and we've got a couple of uh spec sheets here one for the b65 and one for the b70 let's go ahead and let's go ahead and pull these up this is so funny i'm on intel arc reading about intel arc yo dog i heard you like arc so i put arc on your arc so you can arc will you arc i don't think they call this arc anymore but the joke is that intel's uh product specifications um website where you could just kind of look at a data sheet like this for any product used to be called intel arc yeah all right so what do we got what do we got micro architecture xc2 tsmc n5 oh man you see what tsmc said about unless you're like a loyal long-term customer you ain't getting no n3 so uh yeah intel probably wouldn't fall under that so they're gonna have to fab their own gpus going forward it sounds like i'm probably reading too much into it but whatever uh so the 65 gets 20 xc cores and the 70 gets 32 so this is what was probably supposed to be the rumored b770 but the bad part of the news is we're not getting that in a consumer card the good part of the news here is that hey at least it's coming to to light So it does exist, which means maybe if the RAM-pocalypse, you know, ends reasonably soon, we could get it someday or something.

1:26:50Luke Lafreniere:And it also means Intel has not abandoned GPUs. Everything Intel does that shows that they're still making GPUs is encouraging for me because we must not have a monopoly in this space. So either 20 or 32 ray tracing units. All right. That's pretty cool. Vector engines, 160, 250. Oh, wow. So the B70 is like a much, much beefier card. Oh, yeah. It's$1 ,000. Higher clocked. $1 ,000 US. She's a big boy. Yeah. PCIe Gen 5 by 16 for both of them. And both of them, this is pretty cool, have 256-bit interfaces and 32 gigs of GDDR6 memory. That 32 gigs is pretty nice. That is a fat amount of GDDR memory for under$1 ,000 GPU.

1:27:41Linus Sebastian:A lot of these are going to end up in potentially dual GPU setups.

1:27:46Luke Lafreniere:It's very clear what Intel is trying to do here. They are trying to get home lab people running ARC, optimizing their AI crap for ARC, so that longer term, their data center accelerators accelerators are going to have people familiar with how to use them seems pretty smart

1:28:10Linus Sebastian:i am not super on top of this stuff someone in chat said is it gdr6 and i i went to go confirm that it is but i also think that should be it's really you really just care about the capacity a lot i'm pretty sure okay okay it's twofold so for the workloads that i suspect people are going to

1:28:30Luke Lafreniere:be using this for i want to add that caveat before you keep going uh it's okay so we we covered this in a fair bit more uh detail in that video that um uh that we worked on with uh with nick harris from the lab yeah so what was that that was a h1 h100 card i think it was it was an h100 sounds right it was it was an like it was an older uh data center ai accelerator from nvidia And what we talked about was, okay, like capacity and speed and sort of the relationship there. So for certain AI workloads, the speed actually matters quite a lot. Okay. And that's why you have these HBM stacks that are sitting right next to the die.

1:29:14Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. And from what I can remember, and this is one of those things where I will often go and relearn something so that I can do a video about it. and then if I don't touch it for six months, then I'll kind of forget a lot of the details and then I'll have to like go touch up on it again. But from what I can remember, a lot of it is down to training. You want the speed for training. And then when it comes to inference, when it comes to actually using the models, the speed of the memory is not quite as important, but the capacity of the memory matters because you have to be able to fit the model into your working memory or else your speed drops off dramatically.

1:29:53Luke Lafreniere:So having faster memory might make you a little bit faster for inference, a little bit, but not having enough takes you from here to here because all of a sudden you're swapping out to storage and that's brutal. So yeah, GDDR6, not gonna be the end of the world. And the fact that it's on a 256 bit bus is going to help. So total bandwidth that Intel quotes is something in the neighborhood of, I think it was 660 gigabytes a second, 608 gigabytes a second, which is not industry leading by any stretch of the imagination. But with this much memory for what people are trying to do at home, right? Where they're not trying to do this at an industrial scale, it's going to be faster enough for just having that capacity

1:30:43Linus Sebastian:that this could be very appealing for home labbers. Yeah, yeah. I want to take us on a weird aside for a second I think it was in the pre-show we were talking about the expense of live streaming was that in the pre-show uh no that was in the main show I think was it either way I know I I realized I wanted to do an updated count because I saw that you know on on YouTube we're oh this is an older oh boy where'd it go there on YouTube we have 8.9 now so we've kind of like cooked a little bit Wancho takes a little bit to get its viewer viewership up but i noticed something that was wrong the first time i came to the the calculator um which was i i totaled our viewership between youtube and twitch so i got a 10 800 but then i saw i saw this and i remembered this average viewer watch duration 50 oh but if i'm looking at the people currently watching that is not how that would work so if we round it down because i know when it takes a little bit to grow its viewership and we just go to 10 000 we hit pretty

1:31:41Luke Lafreniere:close to peak after about the first, I'm actually just looking at it right now. About an hour in,

1:31:48Linus Sebastian:we're pretty close to peak. And if we change this to, so we go down to 10 ,000, so we shave off a decent amount of viewers, and let's say 100%, we can also do 90%. Which one do you want to do? I wish we could do 75%.

1:32:01Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. Let's do 90. Let's do a worst case scenario, because I also think you rounded down on how many people were watching. I did. I did. Yeah. So we'll round

1:32:10Linus Sebastian:up on by like almost a thousand that's crazy please tell me we're not spending that much right because they're normal watching on float plane we've got uh around 10 of that

1:32:24Luke Lafreniere:sorry it's probably me

1:32:29Luke Lafreniere:it's fun times every time we stream land show really okay so what luke is trying to say is head on over to lttstore.com, okay? Oh, sure. And send us a checkout message. Just go ahead and grab one of our new flexible magnetic cable management arches.

1:32:48Linus Sebastian:Little worm boys.

1:32:48Luke Lafreniere:Yep. Or you can pick something up from our tax write-off sale. Open box commuter backpack. Oh. Oh. How do I get to the US store? very bottom little yeah i know i just wish i could just alter the url uh okay well they're still in the u.s store well anyway uh whatever yeah shop around find something send a merch message every little bit helps what why not you said merch message oh shoot

1:33:29Luke Lafreniere:check out message check out message okay

1:33:39Linus Sebastian:should we do should we do

1:33:41Luke Lafreniere:ow that hurt yeah that was an

1:33:43Linus Sebastian:interesting strategy

1:33:45Luke Lafreniere:well that way I'll remember

1:33:47Linus Sebastian:rubber band works too maybe there might be other ways to do that I've tried all the other ways Luke cat of nine tails let's do the Apple business thing Apple unveils Apple business an all-in-one platform to completely replace and consolidate their current offerings. It will unify device management and productivity tools within a single interface. Apple Business will feature built-in mobile device management, or MDM, using their new Blueprint system to let admins reconfigure devices with specific apps and security policies. Additionally, it introduces managed Apple accounts with cryptographic separation between personal and work data.

1:34:29Linus Sebastian:Cool. uh apart from it features i like honestly as someone who has done it stuff get your personal stuff off of off of our things i don't want to see your bank account publicly shared in a password manager i don't want that i it's not i actually specifically want that to not be there because i don't want the responsibility of that being even possible so just keep it on your own stuff anyways I'm going to rant over. Apart from IT features, Apple Business also adds customer engagement features, such as brand profiles, customizable place cards in Apple Maps. Oh, neat. And tap-to-pay branding. Apple also announced for their US and Canadian users later this summer that businesses will be able to create search results ads for Apple Maps and a suggested places interface.

1:35:25Linus Sebastian:Sure, I don't know. um out of all the things to make exclusive ads isn't it i'm oh yeah that's a little odd but anyways uh the platform will be freely available starting april 14th in over 200 countries

1:35:36Luke Lafreniere:this is incredible um this plus the macbook neo bruh apple is coming through your neck if you're a huge variety of different companies if you are an educational if you if you rely on shifting like huge numbers of books to educational institutions or in a corporate environment apple sees your pie and they're like yes yes your pie and your pie and your pie i'll have all the pie i'll just have all of it um they're because already you see so many macbooks in corporate and in education. And that was with sort of previous versions of a mishmash of this functionality, bringing it all together in one easier to manage package, because that's what it ultimately comes down to, is give me reasonable hardware, make it easy for me to manage.

1:36:39Luke Lafreniere:And I literally won't even call someone else unless it's just to get a competitive quote to like, you know keep you accountable keep you honest um once someone locks in there's a lot of inertia there but in spite of the inertia of you know chromebooks and windows i don't think anybody's thrilled with those platforms right now no and so for apple to come in and say hey we can take all of your problems and we can make them go away also the incredible annoyance of managing them oh it's just free with that apple magic we put a little bit of apple we're gonna spit shine spit shine that apple for you dude this is like a game changer and i've talked extensively about this in the past but whatever the youngins grow up using oh yeah yeah yeah has a serious impact on what they're going to want to use when they get older it's one of the reasons that the piracy of the adobe suite was such a game changer for adobe and why as far as i can tell davinci resolve is going to take over in the next five to ten years yeah and not piracy in that case but just free access to it um with hard with hardware purchase uh at least i think it's still with hardware purchase do you still have to buy anything to get davinci i don't i don't think so no it's just free outright is that right down free yeah you can get a pro version right okay pro version but otherwise davinci's are just freeware these guys are such mad and it's so good such mad lads um where was i going with this right so but unlike a chromebook where there's a lot of friction around continuing to use a chromebook forever because just you know app compatibility and it's always i think it will drive me crazy forever if google loses this chromebook thing and i look back at it and i go you guys were linux you had an opportunity to embrace the linuxness of chrome os you decided not to yeah that will always that will be like that will be like a microsoft phone level like like intel missing the the investment in well i don't know how the opening eye thing's going to turn out but like i'm going to say no i'm going to say microsoft phone that will be like a microsoft phone level colossal f*** up to me to look back on and go if this Chrome OS thing doesn't work out the fact that you guys didn't just embrace Linux on it and not try to make it just a browser I'll never get over it what a weird decision this is crazy.

1:39:22Luke Lafreniere:Hold on, when Bingo Chronified says they have embraced it, it's trivially easy to enable the Linux underlay and get stuff like VLC and OpenOffice and Chrome OS via Linux trivially easy but it should just they should be promoting it is what i'm saying there's a big difference between allowing it and pushing it and contributing to it like what valve is doing google should have been doing what valve is doing like really making chrome os a linux distro the

1:39:52Linus Sebastian:biggest push for linux in recent history was the steam deck and still is the steam deck yeah like if you look on proton db tons of the comments are steam deck based yeah because there's so freaking many of them out there yeah all right uh oh right but you were going to say something about the apple platform or are we done uh it probably didn't matter much um what the apple I think it's really important. Oh, my God. He doesn't know. He doesn't know. MacOS is Unix-based, which is interesting. I think as well, just like another competitor in that space, I think is actually really good. I'm very frustrated with all of the current offerings.

1:40:40Linus Sebastian:I think they just kind of suck. I had a conversation recently about our setup, because we're trying to figure out moving off some of them to save money, because we're on just everything, which sucks. um and the conversation was something about like basically i don't know uh email just sucks everywhere because yeah yeah yeah we're trying to reduce that so like email just kind of sucks everywhere and the reason why email sucks everywhere is because the basic functionality of email has been fine for a long time and search is bad everywhere yeah so it's just like okay whatever and then you get to messaging and it's like okay well the messaging options are either really bad or too expensive for what they are dude i searched for the word patent in my gmail inbox

1:41:24Luke Lafreniere:the other day because um our wonderful boss asked me to find out if i had ever corresponded on something to do with a patent with someone and i searched for it and i was like why the are these results out of order and it turns out it defaulted to relevancy which i decide what's relevant i'm like what are you talking about i want so i'm scrolling scrolling scrolling and i all of a sudden i come to something that from very recent and i say i realize it's not chronological i'm like sure if you want to have like here's the three or four that i think are the most relevant and surface them at the top yeah that's fine but by the time i'm sorting by the time i've scrolled infinitely you know through three pages of results or whatever obviously you didn't get it.

1:42:13Linus Sebastian:So give it to me in chronological order. Obviously. If I do a super vague search term, like flight, maybe just give me the most recent one.

1:42:23Luke Lafreniere:Oh, it never does though.

1:42:25Linus Sebastian:I'll get one from three years ago. It's crazy. I'll do like, I don't know, flight San Francisco. And it'll be like, ah, yes. I do understand that you have a flight to San Francisco in three days, but I'm going to give you your ticket from seven years ago. hope you wanted that it's just like why bro come on um so like yeah basically nobody cares about email because it's just sort of all junk um nobody cares that much about chat because it's like do i care enough about how much better slack is to pay more for it compared to teams i don't know maybe developers kind of do but outside of that that's maybe not so much um so most of it just kind of gets shrugged off and the biggest problem we've ran into is like wow one drive is a fantastic piece of s**t.

1:43:09Linus Sebastian:And while Google Drive might be kind of neat, Google Workspace bundling their AI crap into their subscriptions has made it so expensive. Oh, dude.

1:43:18Luke Lafreniere:I was trying to... What was I trying to do the other day? Oh, I was trying to write an email. Hold on. Let me see if I can find this.

1:43:30Linus Sebastian:I believe if you can get it out now, but there was like a period of time where they kind of forced AI junk to be included with their servers.

1:43:36Luke Lafreniere:No, it was doing a bunch of like like kind of like a spell check or grammar check like squiggle under the words in my email and i in 10 seconds very aggressive didn't spend that much time i couldn't figure out how to turn it off and it kept sort of trying to recommend tone changes to me and i'm like no it's an irate email and it has an irate tone intentionally um i was so annoyed and i i'd have to i'd have to go and actually like type an email right now to get it to try to do it maybe i'll just i'll find the one I sent last night and I'll put it in.

1:44:09Linus Sebastian:But yeah, the biggest hurdle that we're running into is one moving off of a chat system that you're currently using onto another one is definitely possible no matter where you go. But there is a lot of like resetting up group chats and resetting up channels and stuff that will take some time. So you're definitely going to lose some productivity in the switch. So it needs to be worth the productivity loss to save the money on the thing. Okay. Sounds good. We can figure that out. But the last one is just drive, trying to get out of Google Drive to something else

1:44:43Linus Sebastian:is proving a little daunting if we do want to do that. Should we talk about that thing we set up locally, Dan?

1:44:51Luke Lafreniere:It's not doing it right now, so I don't exactly know why. But this is funny. Have I told the story about the conversation I had with someone from Sony when I was over there recently? where one of the things that I've started feeling tempted to do is to typo something on purpose in my emails so people know that it was written by a human. So I sent her an email. Super nice to meet you. Had a really great time checking out the blank, still under NDA. My only complaint is I can't show and talk about more of it. Looking forward to working together closely going forward. Here's a tip, yo, to prove I wrote this instead of delegating it to AI.

1:45:29Luke Lafreniere:So I've officially done it once now.

1:45:33Linus Sebastian:That's funny. Try own cloud. We're trying a few different things. The primary one where we've set up locally right now is next cloud just to play around with that. See how that goes.

1:45:45Luke Lafreniere:I think they reach out to us like quite frequently.

1:45:47Linus Sebastian:Okay. Yeah. That is the one.

1:45:48Luke Lafreniere:Guess it worked because it was top of mind. Hey, you know what they say. if you don't get a date the first 500 times, you should definitely ask again.

1:45:58Linus Sebastian:3 ,000 more. We have a lot of emails from them. No, that's not advice. Yeah, don't do that. That's not advice. That's harassment.

1:46:05Luke Lafreniere:Not legal advice.

1:46:06Linus Sebastian:Don't do that. But that's harassment. So we're looking into that. Sebastian posted in Floatplane Chat and said, where is it? Google Drive is really good. It's unfortunate. I think the things that Google Drive is really good at are honestly getting worse. um i think its search is so abysmal that it's actually genuinely difficult to use at this point yeah like why is it that uh okay hold on i might be getting this wrong because i know i've had

1:46:35Luke Lafreniere:issues sometimes like searching for a doc when i'm in google drive or like searching for a file when i'm in google docs like they don't seem to be able to decide whether they're just one platform or whether they're like separate platforms yeah and i can never quite remember the rules of which things work across which other things it's very weird um so i'm not going to get into anything

1:46:56Linus Sebastian:specific right now someone brought up protons platform i honestly didn't consider that one um yeah it's an interesting idea

1:47:09Luke Lafreniere:they're improving both the drives photos docs a bunch of stuff since launch yeah

1:47:13Linus Sebastian:the primary thing that we need from their like drive is their collaborative stuff because uh i I will never be able to pry Excel even out of the cold dead hands of many people at the office. It still wouldn't be able to get out of their hands. So there's going to be desktop apps required from Microsoft literally just for Excel for a decent amount of people. But outside of that, we need highly collaborative documents, both in sheet form and document form. And form form. Oh, Google Forms is actually kind of goaded. Yeah, we seemed to be in a competition for years about can we find ways to buy Google Forms in other ways and then use those instead of using Google Forms?

1:47:57Linus Sebastian:And I don't know why, but we seem to be mostly done doing that now, which is very cool. Sorry, buy them in other ways? Yeah, just try to find an external company that basically just has Google Forms and then pay for that and then use it for things internally. We did that like a lot. There was a lot of that going on. Don't we just use Google Forms though? Oh, no. what no i don't understand what you're talking about right now uh does anyone else understand what he's talking about i know like jot form someone in someone chat guessed it i think jot form was something that we used for a while for like a bunch of things internally but we do use google forms for a lot like we had some q a stuff from the last all hands and we also pay for jot form and we also pay for i think one or two other things that are basically just google forms um why well not as much anymore i thought you were saying this was a strategy we were pursuing i was making a joke about how it seemed like it was yeah yeah well man there's been there's been a

1:48:51Luke Lafreniere:lot of stuff like that where someone has like a particular snowflake tool that they want to use and it's like okay bro but couldn't you just do this in a spreadsheet yeah um i mean i was always just like can we just is there can we just do this in a spreadsheet with some macros it turns

1:49:05Linus Sebastian:out google sheets is like really powerful no it's not excel don't shoot me but it is very powerful yeah it's funny too if you look at the like microsoft office um let me try to find this i was poking around microsoft office subscriptions the other day and it's it's really kind of funky um you can just buy excel like non-subscription really it's like kind of hard to find it um buy excel that's actually pretty cool yeah yeah here we go

1:49:40Luke Lafreniere:boink 170 bucks oh well i would do that you can just buy it for one pc or mac turn data into useful insights can you imagine if it was your job to write the marketing blurb for microsoft excel hold on what else they got here spread share your spreadsheet with others and edit together in real time asterisk files must be shared from one drive compatible with windows 11 windows 10 or mac os wow thanks microsoft requirements additional system requirements Internet access, Microsoft account. Oh, you f***ers.

1:50:12Linus Sebastian:But yeah, you can just buy Excel, which I thought was pretty interesting, actually. I didn't realize you could actually just do that. So that was fascinating. They're making the support period for standalone apps super short compared to what it used to be to encourage Microsoft 365. Oh, that's Pancratz. That makes sense. That's from Pancratz. But even if you look at their subscriptions, I was kind of poking into this. so we need so yeah you have plans with teams and your nice cheap one is eight bucks but this one you can tell what they they you can tell they know about excel that was the most interesting thing for me to discover because this the cheap one the eight dollars and ten cents one only includes the web and mobile versions of excel so you can't get the desktop version and i i was i was talking to i think it was taryn i was talking to taryn about how i think it's interesting that through their subscription models they self-incentivize not making their web versions good which i find so funny i know you love perverse incentives like it's something you find like fascinating it is very fast to me i guess um but like yeah because the jump to get the desktop version is double huge it's literally and i noticed that if you go for i think it's plans without teams i'm gonna have to find it so we don't necessarily have to share yet oh no here it is just microsoft 365 oh what the frick uh just microsoft 365 apps for business which includes the desktop versions is more expensive so you know you know that they know internally that people really just need desktop excel because it's so much better than everything else and they there must have it so i really think there's a pretty strong incentive to not make the web version good because the web version is right next to that with more other features at like half the price yeah six bucks includes web of excel and everything else microsoft is like the the facebook marketplace

1:52:16Luke Lafreniere:equivalent of i know what i got yeah but only with microsoft excel everything else is just like Like, how can we try to make this Excel bouquet look more compelling than the other Excel bouquet?

1:52:31Linus Sebastian:Yeah. Yeah. That was wild to me. I'm basically trying to figure out, like, okay. There's a lot of, like, what happens if we go down X or Y path? It's like, do we stick with just Microsoft? Do we stick with just Google? Do we go with some hybrid that's different than the hybrid we have now? Do we use Apple numbers? Do we do something weird like that? and one of the static facts is that we must have Excel for certain people. It's not a crazy amount of the company, but there are some people that must have it.

1:53:00Luke Lafreniere:Some of the accounting people,

1:53:01Linus Sebastian:some of the people who work in logistics and planning. They just need more powerful sheets. So it sounds good. And it just turns out, yeah, I mean, it might just be$11.70 a month to get them Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Outlook, and they will open one of those apps.

1:53:20Luke Lafreniere:They might accidentally open Word. maybe yeah or powerpoint imagine using powerpoint these days i uh should really just use google slides yeah it's actually just easier yeah to be clear i'm not saying it's not better slides is better but i'm saying for how good a slide needs to be for 98 of people who need to make slides where no one's really gonna look at them google slides is fine um yeah syphilis says i use powerpoint at work all the time it's fine it is fine it's totally it is fine we're not saying it's bad yeah we're just saying that for how closely anybody's gonna look at a powerpoint slide yeah yeah uh okay do you want to move on yeah crimson desert finally gets support and soon optimization for intel gpus after initially locking out arc cards at launch this was this was shocking to see how this played out in public yes i don't normally see intel just like publicly put someone on blast and they really did and i honestly i'm here for it i respect it i'm here for it yep they're acting hungry yeah which is what i like about intel's arc guys yeah like they're acting they're acting hungry they're acting scrappy do we have the original like quote from them somewhere in here uh yeah it's right here over the past several years we've reached out to pearl abyss many times to help test validate and optimize support for intel graphics providing early hardware drivers and engineering resources across multiple generations of intel gpus that is an absolute mic drop of a truth bomb after pearl abyss was basically like no we can't oh no we can't yeah uh you know look into return can you imagine that you put all the support on the table and someone literally says if you have this product look into the return policy for our game because we are just i'm not interested that sucks so much that sucks so much but i am happy that they seem to have pivoted since then yeah yeah shout out shout out okay crimson desert devs shout out intel team for just burying the hatchet and getting things done for the sake of gamers um david gotier who prepared this topic one of our writers says it's worth noting intel is currently approaching one percent market share which sounds really small until you consider that we think of amd as like you know the other player you know and amd is at like approximately seven percent according to the numbers that he's got which i think i thought it was actually lower than that right now.

1:55:54Linus Sebastian:I was going to say, wherever these numbers are from are painting a better picture than was recently in my head. So hopefully those numbers are accurate. I thought Nvidia was closer to 95 right now. I thought they were too but hopefully we're wrong and those numbers are right. Yeah. That would be awesome. Alright, what else we got? But yeah, I'm going to say again, it would be a sick, you know, 180 maneuver if Intel was able to get it nicely optimized and then bundle it with their GPUs. I think that would be awesome.

1:56:20Luke Lafreniere:Want another good news WAN show item? Yes. Just a reminder, guys, we are gearing up for Good News WAN Show month. Next month, April is going to be all Good News WAN Shows. If it's not good news or can't at least be interpreted in a positive way, maybe we'll have a carve out for one bad news topic for WAN Show. That's it.

1:56:40Linus Sebastian:Maybe.

1:56:40Luke Lafreniere:Maybe. It's going to have to be important. Very important. Critical. Yeah. Critically important. Yeah. So Good News WAN Show is coming next month. We're very excited for it. also some other wansho news is we are going to be starting the wansho transition quite soon we're moving from the ltt channel to the lmg clips channel which is soon to be rebranded as the wansho that is going to start on april 3rd 2026 and for some period of time it will stream to both channels simultaneously that soft transition is going to continue for some number of months and in the weeks leading up to the full final transition over to the WAN Show channel, currently the LMG Clips channel, we will be sure to make multiple announcements so nobody gets lost trying to find the show.

1:57:32Luke Lafreniere:I had a fun idea. Because you know how people can be resistant to, you know, change. You know how they can be. And, you know, there can be sort of, there's a friction to, you know, transition. you know, platform transition, even if it's within the same platform. What do you think of the idea of simultaneously streaming on both platforms for a really long time? I'm talking like six months, but hear me out. Every week, the YouTube stream gets reduced by like 50 kilobit per second.

1:58:21Linus Sebastian:There'd have to be, there'd have to be something.

1:58:23Luke Lafreniere:youtube stream i meant the linus channel stream i knew what you meant yeah so so the lmg clips stream on youtube would be full full bitrate uh i think we have something explaining it so so well no because the community will self-police at that point it will make people go hey what's going on and then it will make people discuss it and then they'll go oh okay and then they can transition over to the other one interesting i wonder if i can lower the frame rate as well uh i'd say that would be towards the very end like where we we start we make it like 10 fps one fps wancho would be really funny yeah and so and so the whole be too entertaining the whole conversation of it is just going to be wtf is going on here can't these guys run a live stream and they'll be like dude they've been talking about this for six months go watch it over here problem solved and so we just we make it like we make it like a meme and then it can even be you You'll even have people that you know are going to engage with this very stubbornly.

1:59:26Luke Lafreniere:Like, I'm going to hold out until the end. I will literally refuse until the final day. I will be that last person playing Halo on Xbox 360. I will watch it 10 kilobits per second. Or whatever. I think that something like this would be a really good way to really ease the transition. One oddly colored pixel would be the only thing coming through. Deep fried audio. Yeah. yeah we could have we could we could go until we actually resemble um someone pointed out the pixelated linus and luke hold on i'm trying to find the image like old glitchy ones oh actually i didn't mean that i meant the like in the intro oh i thought you meant the like the ancient wanshows that are all corrupted on youtube uh oh well okay well that's hold on huh wait where are they yeah i know these guys yeah yeah until we actually look more like

2:00:18Linus Sebastian:these guys than like these guys you should just ai overlay us turning us into pixel bros someone pointed out apparently doug doug has a video on how people will be stubborn in these situations or something and like yeah absolutely there's a ton of people that won't i think it's going to be a combination of people are going to be stubborn and also when we stop streaming on ltt i think how the algorithm works in the like viewers like you watch this thing therefore i will recommend it way i think a bunch of people won't even realize they're on a different channel

2:00:46Luke Lafreniere:and and watch it with the slow transition we'll also give the algorithm a lot of time to learn who these overlapping audiences are yeah um so i'm maybe it'll be all right maybe it won't i kind of because i don't want to mess with the audio i think we should leave the audio alone i think that's fair but over time we just degrade the video experience until finally we're down to like yeah a couple of pixels kind of barely until barely even able to make out what you're looking at and we go hey guys you may have noticed over the last few months that the video quality on you on the ltt channel has been a little on the low side this is the last wan show here we're moving over to the new wan show channel and this is actually really important because the wan show is now officially uh co-owned by me and luke 50 percent um and we have to have it on a separate channel intellectual property corporate ownership blah blah blah blah blah blah for the float plane

2:01:46Linus Sebastian:people i believe the plan right now is that it's it'll just be on the lmg channels yeah yeah i do think we wanted to talk to sammy and get it split out into its own sub channel yeah but that does not mean it would be a new subscription that would literally actually just we should just do that anyways yeah because it's for organizational reasons yeah so it just looks like this so on

2:02:07Luke Lafreniere:the side you've got linus tech tips and then you've got all your various sub channels uh so we would just add a when show one and then we can keep it kind of simple that way yeah exactly speaking of float plane sammy has some float plane announcements that he wants us to talk about the korean tech mall video was released very early on float plane if you don't want to wait till monday to see that it is available right now um and this is this is really how i felt when I had to go shopping. Can I find what I forgot in Korea's largest tech mall? If you guys are regular Wancho viewers, you'll know that I streamed from South Korea last week, two weeks ago?

2:02:48Luke Lafreniere:Times of blur. Two weeks ago. Two weeks ago. Not last week, at least. I talked about how I forgot my camera and forgot my microphone and forgot any means of setting it up in any ergonomic way. So I had to go shopping even though I was actually on vacation and I wasn't planning to make any videos. And if I'm gonna go to a tech mall in a country that I've never made a tech mall video in before, then I guess I might as well point a selfie camera at myself. So it looks like, well, it looks like people are actually liking this video. Wasn't it Yvonne's idea too? Yeah, yeah. She was like, well, like you might as well just make a video because you're gonna go shopping anyway.

2:03:27Luke Lafreniere:It had a really different vibe from a lot of our content because I shot the whole thing myself

2:03:33Linus Sebastian:just me and an iphone that's interesting and a decent mic well i didn't have a camera operator i wasn't i'm i'm realizing like literally this format of you self-filming only really shows up sometimes in like maybe a scrapyard wars or something like that yeah it's it's like this is almost weird to see yeah i know right like this would usually be like some video you would just dm me like it's not it's not really like yeah it's not a super common linus angle on on on the public video. It's a,

2:04:02Luke Lafreniere:it's a really, uh, it's, it's kind of a fun video because I, I end up finding a lot of like really weird stuff. I'm excited for this one. Like there's parts of this place that seem almost abandoned. Um, like the amount of just random old systems and e-waste and like, like, Oh, there's a lot of e-waste and just vast empty hallways with just like garbage in them and stuff. It's a, it's, it's kind of a weird video. Interesting. Yeah, and it's kind of a weird place. Anyway, on top of that, I have more videos to release for you guys. Wow, look at that. Here's a second Dank Pods video. Second collab with Dank Pods.

2:04:45Luke Lafreniere:Boom, going public. His system got broken on his way to Whale Land because Wade apparently has never seen the classic Linus Tech Tips episode, How to Pack Your PC.

2:05:02Luke Lafreniere:what is this what who's this guy who's this guy how to pack your pc 40 there it is okay well maybe we should have had a less clickbaity title how to not smash your pc gaming rig packing and moving guide so he should have watched that because it had a lot of tech tips that he could have used his computer got all bashed up it was making rattling noises when we when i shook it to start the video. So I helped him fix it. And then my Linux curse struck. So I fixed his computer in a hardware fashion and then broke it in the software by just being there. I heard about that. I didn't do anything. I had so many witnesses.

2:05:47Luke Lafreniere:Adam witnessed it. One of our new camera guys witnessed it. Wade witnessed it. They saw me. I did nothing. I broke his bazite and I'm sorry, but I didn't do anything. I was just present. Anyway, that's a pretty fun video. It's a pretty good one. We also have extras from that video. Finally, we made an alternatives to Discord video, giving you guys some ideas for other software that you can use now that they've got their ID stuff that they're working on. I'm going to go ahead and make that live now as well. Lots of early access right now on Floatplane. These all obviously come to YouTube. Oh, that's early access too.

2:06:31Luke Lafreniere:At some point. We're a little late on that. Yeah, but it's a good video actually. I watched it today. Cool. It's solid. I'm actually really... It was one that was done when I wasn't here. What?

2:06:43Linus Sebastian:I just... Nick from the lab pointed out the other day that he really likes Wendell's thumbnails and I just...

2:06:54Linus Sebastian:Oh, man. There was another one recently. This one.

2:07:12Luke Lafreniere:That's what your thumbnails look like. When you actually don't give any f***s how your video performs and you are just doing it for the lols. Just for the love of the game, man. I love it. I love it. I respect it so much. It's so based. What a guy.

2:07:32Linus Sebastian:Just keep you, Wendell. Oh, man.

2:07:38Luke Lafreniere:All right. Thank you for that. I can't tell what's going on right now. Did I release everything that I was supposed to release? I think so. i have the wade video the sorry i'm like doing actual work right now so i'm confused korean tech mall video i released that one the extras and the discord did i get them all yes okay i got them all yeah i think i'm good so awesome so three early access videos now available at lmg.gg slash fp wan oh do we have our own vanity url i guess i guess this is part of like making sure that you get your commissions mr 50 owner yeah no that's totally true it's mostly only only relevant if something fundamentally changes yeah but we do have to lay the ground work now it's really important to to do it now yeah all right you know what else is really important to do now is talk about how the supreme court in the u.s has ruled that isps internet service providers are not liable for user piracy on their networks.

2:08:46Luke Lafreniere:A lawsuit between record labels and USISP Cox Communications over an alleged failure to deter repeat piracy received a Supreme Court ruling in Cox's favor. I personally am also in favor of Cox. Go Cox! They're a really, really big company. um okay maybe well in this case in this specific case uh i remember actually i actually remember talking about this on land show like half a decade ago like this has been this has been gumming up the works for a long time oh here it is right in the notes the case began in 2018 yeah when record labels led by sony and warner said that cox received tens of thousands of infringement notices identifying repeat violators but then failed to meaningfully suspend or terminate those accounts which is weird because usually they usually they send out just such a surge of cox argued that previous rulings against it would force isps to act as copyright police which actually kind of a fair point a 2019 jury in virginia had found cox liable and awarded a billion dollars in damages a billion dollars in damages to my cox not to my cox no i won't stand for it the fourth circuit court of appeals torture threw out the damages and part of the liability and ordered a new trial to determine damages cox then asked the supreme court to intervene

2:10:18Linus Sebastian:um yeah it's hard to really be on the side of big isps i'm also wondering if this could be a bad

2:10:26Luke Lafreniere:to users possibly but then if the isps are not liable then you can guarantee that they're not going to like do the work care to and cooperate yeah any more than they like absolutely have to because at the end of the day you don't want to be the isp that customers start talking about how you get people like sued for piracy and the whole going after end users thing proved to be so unpopular back in the early 2000s that the record labels gave up right yeah like there there are yeah there are artists who even still today wear that that cone of shame for for going after individuals downloading their songs like i just i don't i don't see it happening then again hey the world keeps finding new ways to be even more dystopian so no guarantees but this does seem like overall for user pi excuse me privacy um a plus and if you happen to be a pirate then it also seems like a plus for that as well here's a downer qualcomm shut the door on snapdragon x dsp headers open sourcing and linux support hopes seem to be fading qualcomm has closed a github issue requesting open source dsp headers for snapdragon x chips with a blunt no plans for that as of now linux can still boot on snapdragon x laptops but without full dsp headers full upstream support for things like audio sensors and npu offloading remain out of reach this is uh interesting move not in with the current vibe bold move yeah this may help explain why tuxedo canceled its snapdragon x1 elite linux laptop after 18 months of development and canonical still relies on patched packages in a qualcomm specific work in progress kernel i also find it

2:12:28Linus Sebastian:interesting because at their summit that they had which myself and nick and lucas attended i would genuinely say the most prevalent topic of question that was at like the panel and when we're walking around talking to people and stuff was based around linux there was a lot of people in the audience that were very linux pilled i think probably and i think qualcomm recognized this a higher percentage than probably users to be honest well yeah because when you're a brand

2:12:56Luke Lafreniere:new hardware with you know brand new wait let's let's face it especially in the earlier days of windows on arm it was very much a very it was a really similar set of trade-offs as running on linux some of your software wouldn't work you'd have to be willing to deal with like kind of hacky workarounds there were benefits the battery life game changing at the time that was before intel had some really competitive uh mobile um offerings in terms of battery life and amd too for that matter but um so it's so it seems to me that it kind of makes sense that you have a kind of similar user archetype someone who's willing to put up with some pain in order to try something new and or um get some benefit that is very meaningful to them and they publicly promised continued linux up streaming work back in 2024 and so i'm looking at this going like guys you're already niche you already seem to be having a hard time making inroads and i understand why the temptation would be to see that fact that your volumes are pretty low and and kind of circle the wagons you know focus on focus on the biggest piece of the pie the biggest prize hear me out go completely the opposite direction i think so be the king i think so of how well you support

2:14:26Linus Sebastian:open source platforms you will get a really hardcore very vocal in a good way for you

2:14:32Luke Lafreniere:audience if you are able to accomplish that and they tend to be evangelists they tend to be the kinds of people who who will wait until something is if we're being real not really good enough for mainstream and then they'll be like oh it's so good it's great everyone should try it and it's way better to have those guys on your side right now than to just alienate them because they're also really loud about that which is not good for you not offer anything interesting to the mainstream normies right now you're you're you're doing neither and and i and i don't think this is going to work out great because i could see like i could see qualcomm like they have pretty compelling gaming performance for instance at least the the new generation is yeah are they out are they rumored i can't remember whatever that but but their gpus are pretty solid and i could see qualcomm being a legitimate contender in things like handheld windows gaming machines

2:15:26Linus Sebastian:sure why not definitely why not honestly with with some of their mini pcs they were showing off and

2:15:31Luke Lafreniere:stuff totally makes sense but now you're going up against the steam deck you know if i'm if i'm someone who's designing a piece of handheld hardware today would i want to be able to support all the various operating systems that can run on it would i want to be able to run steam os would i want to be able to run bazite would i want to be able to run uh what's the the windows um game optimized mode called that we worked on with the xbox team whatever that that thing i'd want to be able to run all of them i think shutting a door right now feels like completely failing to read the room yeah which makes sense because how can you read a room when the door into it is closed my god you don't have to call me that on camera oh my

2:16:26Gross

2:16:31Luke Lafreniere:I love teasing him Alright Next topic Oh this is great EU consumer protections strike again You wanna do this one?

2:16:41Linus Sebastian:Sure This follows the unrelated news that Nintendo is cutting Switch 2 production by 33 % Hey I see you pressing that button Dan Oh, was it you?

2:16:51Luke Lafreniere:No, it was me.

2:16:51Linus Sebastian:No, it was Dan. I don't even know what button he's on.

2:16:53Luke Lafreniere:He matched the narcissist button like 25 times. Oh!

2:16:57Linus Sebastian:Oh! Yeah, so Nintendo's cutting Switch 2 production by 33 % after a poor performance during the holiday season. Okay, that's bad news. Approximately a cut of 2 million units this year. Wow, crazy! Wait, did you give the good news yet? No one predicted this at all. Hmm, interesting. If only there was more than two games for it. Wow. Um, the good news for it? yeah it's in the title oh i thought you read the whole title no i didn't you consumer protection strike again a new switch to revision with a removable battery that's cool uh to repeatedly reportedly release there oh in the eu yeah and then maybe potentially the u.s and north america maybe yeah i mean even if it didn't i would imagine would import them the gray market

2:17:38Luke Lafreniere:for switch twos with the removable battery would be like stonks big time that'd be that'd be sick and why not? Why shouldn't it have a removable battery? That sounds great. I mean, it's not a phone, right? I can actually really understand it with a phone. This tightly integrated device, it literally has to fit in my pocket. I have to be able to take it into the swimming pool and take pictures of my kids learning to swim or whatever it is that I'm doing with my stupid phone. But something like a game console, I don't need it to be 0.3 millimeters thinner. I think it's probably fine for it to just have a removable battery.

2:18:16Luke Lafreniere:This is so cool. Yeah, I think people don't care at all. Freaking love it. I... The Switch 2 is boring.

2:18:23Linus Sebastian:I think I'm going to sell mine. Ooh. It's boring.

2:18:28Luke Lafreniere:I played some Mario Kart World with my son on the plane on a recent trip. It was good. We played for a bit. It was all right. I hate that game. It's... It's... It's really sweaty. The best Mario Kart experience. Because there's no way to win whatsoever. If you... There's no way to even be remotely competitive if you don't sweat super hard, which I find pretty not fun. It's a Mario Kart game, bro. Yeah. What are we doing? If you want to play... Why is there under map mechanics? If you want to play Assetto Corsa, play that. You know? Can Mario Kart be Mario Kart? I understand that some people want to play Mario Kart super sweaty, and I get that.

2:19:13Linus Sebastian:You can, though.

2:19:14Luke Lafreniere:But you can play super sweaty without literally driving on a completely different track that the other players don't know are there because they didn't do hours of research.

2:19:24Linus Sebastian:Yeah. Like Mario Kart 8 and Deluxe and whatever else, like the variants of it, you could absolutely be super sweaty. But the gap between you and everybody else is not going to be anywhere near as enormous as Mario Kart World. And in my opinion, the mechanics are way more fun. decently heavily incentivizing drifting more than world does pretty in line with eight in my opinion is a great thing for the game because everyone can drift it's very simple but getting it so that like the lines are really perfect and stuff is a skill gap and it's really hard and it's rewarding but it's not like game breakingly rewarding yeah like I just

2:20:05Luke Lafreniere:like there was one that I was in first and my son was in like sixth and he just like took a shortcut i didn't know about and won and it's like like i'm not i'm not like mad about it because it's just mario kart yeah but that's also the that's also the other thing though is like it's just mario kart why do we need to do that why do we need to have

2:20:27Linus Sebastian:there's always been shortcuts to a certain degree but they were small they're usually very small they were small and and they could gain a position and they could be very difficult to execute often in a really brutal way. Yes. Where you would only really take it if you kind of needed to. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:20:44Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, and you'd honestly be better off with a mushroom in a lot of cases. Yeah. Or the shortcuts are kind of everywhere and you can just, you know, like blast across a corner with a mushroom instead of, you know, going through the, like going over grass or whatever.

2:20:59Linus Sebastian:Or they're pretty obvious. Yeah. Maybe you do it wrong on like the first lap,

2:21:02Luke Lafreniere:but then you know from then on and it's pretty easy. Stuff where the track just like splits into two and half of the AIs are going left and half of them are going right and you just like don't know which way you're supposed to go. It's just, that's not a race anymore. That's maze path finding. And I understand a lot of people are having a lot of fun with Mario Kart World. But if the Switch sales are anything to go by, a lot of people also just like kind of aren't. Bonanza is supposed to be really good. I haven't played it.

2:21:34Linus Sebastian:I feel like I'll probably like play that and then sell it yeah i could see that i could see that i mean emma's super super into donkey kong so i bought bonanza for like her to play on the switch and then the house stuff happened so neither of us have played it nice but we'll probably play through that and then yeah there's nothing else pulling me towards the switch to that feels worth it for the device cost if that

2:21:58Luke Lafreniere:makes sense yeah yeah we've got some pretty good news about graphene os but let's get through the rest of our sponsors real quick here first the show is brought to you by tello phone plans are get oh my god really phone plans are getting insanely expensive especially with carriers trying to convince you that you need the latest i galaxy series x pro max whatever but there are phone plans like with our sponsor tello that have more to offer they have unlimited 5g plans on America's largest network for up to, yes, that's right, up to$25. They even let you build your own plan if you don't need everything that comes with that$25 option.

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2:24:39Luke Lafreniere:And they got lots of stuff.

2:24:40Linus Sebastian:Is this new?

2:24:41Luke Lafreniere:It never came up on my evaluation. No, it's not new, but it's been... They don't have a chat. It's been expanding very aggressively. Make a chat.

2:24:49Linus Sebastian:If that makes sense, we can use Slack. i think i'd be really happy i don't want to pay for slack slack uh is a little bit less expensive than uh i thought i don't want a little bit less expensive we're like free we're well no i don't want free either i mean there are potentially free options we've been looking into oh really yeah there's there's like what you're paid for there is yeah and we have a really weird team structure self-host matter most matter most has been getting really weird you should look into

2:25:17Luke Lafreniere:that we have such a weird team structure like every piece of software for a 100 person company we do so much different stuff it's crazy like there are companies our size whose entire thing is they just like make drill bits and everyone just is moving in one direction like making drill bits like i we have apparel and we have like like engineered goods and we have a video platform and we have flipping an events business and just the production company and just procurement is it makes us so weird like none of the film production software includes an entire procurement chain right because why would you have to procure something in order to make your video well because for us unless we have the thing we can't make a video about it and we have to have sometimes 40 things for one video of the you know like an amd ultimate tech upgrade yeah even more uh and then we release like hundreds of videos a quarter which also no one does yeah so ironically teams is like actually set up really well for us because we have all of the different channels and things

2:26:31Linus Sebastian:yeah you can no and we do that in lots of platforms yeah but on slack we can't dictate the order uh Yeah, but you can give people packages and stuff like that. There's ways to make it better. I do agree that that sucks. You can't build someone's hierarchy for them. That's also like, do we need that? Yeah. Can we just figure out something else? It's never been a problem. To save$800 billion. Well, it wouldn't save money if we went to Slack compared to Teams. Oh, no, I mean like something self-hosted or like one of the other ones. If Discord had better user management, we could use Discord. But it's like kind of meh.

2:27:10Linus Sebastian:Meh. Kind of meh. Meh.

2:27:16Luke Lafreniere:Sorry. A particular colleague just sent a video of one of their kids that their kid asked them to send to me. And it's of them driving around in, you know, those like really rugged cardboard boxes that you can get for free at Costco? Yeah. They're like sitting in it like a car and they've like made a little dashboard and they're like dry scooting around on it on the floor. And he's like kicking the thing so that it like goes for a little bit. And I was just like, why do we buy them expensive toys? It's great. I love to see kids using imagination, man. It's it's refreshing. My eldest daughter is getting into this.

2:27:58Luke Lafreniere:I forget what it's called, but it's this animation platform on the iPad that you draw every frame. And she made this little, she's made a couple little like short things that one of them is cats catching mice. And then at the end of it, her kind of punchline is she has a shot of just like a pile of dead rats and mice and the mice go on. I don't know. She's an interesting child. I mean, every child's an interesting child. she's really into cats um and then that's why she chose cat as her stage name like she's just like she's very into cats like we were we were in korea recently we went all the way around the world and what does she want to do she wants to go to a cat cafe literally we have cat at home many we have many cat at home um anyway uh she made another one that's like like this dragon thing that like goes and it does a thing and i don't know it's it's it's pretty cool and as far as I'm concerned, we have carve outs in our screen time rules for if you are making something.

2:29:03Luke Lafreniere:Sure. So if you are designing something for 3D printing, that doesn't count. If you are doing an animation or you're like making a stop motion thing with your, with your phone or whatever, that doesn't count. And it's really, it's really cool. Google family link actually has some, some wonderful tools for carving out particular apps, particular times, so that you can say, okay, yeah, you get like 45 minutes of general use. This particular app is limited to like 15 minutes. And these apps you can use anytime you want, as much as you want. Really awesome. So like something like I have Kindle Unlimited, so they're allowed to read as much as they want on the Kindle.

2:29:44Luke Lafreniere:I don't care. I don't care if they're looking at a screen or at a paper page. At that age, all I care about is their reading. So you can fine tune that. It's pretty cool. yeah yeah uh graphene os yeah has flatly refused to comply with emerging laws requiring operating systems to collect age data at setup base they have said they will never require personal information id or an account base in their twitter statement they said if graphene os devices can't be sold in a region due to their regulations so be it base the statement was prompted by brazil's digital ECA law taking effect March 17th, which carries fines of up to$9.5 million per violation.

2:30:29Luke Lafreniere:California's similar law takes effect January, 2027. This stance creates a real problem for Graphene OS's new Motorola partnership, which was announced at Mobile World Congress. A hardware vendor selling devices globally would have to comply with local laws in every market it ships to, meaning that Motorola may have to restrict sales of Graphene OS phones geographically. Linus comment.

2:30:52Linus Sebastian:i hadn't seen that until now

2:30:57Luke Lafreniere:based i genuinely didn't read that uh i don't think we need to get further into like what are these laws are they supposedly about protecting kids what are they actually for collecting data let's move on to something that's more exciting maybe you'll have to go on to a road trip outside of california to buy your phone like samsung saying that airdrop support is enabled by default after all on galaxy phones they're rolling it out to galaxy s26 devices via a one ui 8.5 update letting users share files directly with iphones ipads and macs through quick share no third-party apps needed the feature is enabled by default through samsung's though samsung's own promotional video initially showed it off showed it is off causing some confusion before the company clarified google figured out how to make this work without apple's involvement when it launched on pixel 10 last year and samsung is now the second android oem to get it with no word yet on when other galaxy devices will follow our discussion question is now that airdrop works both ways and green message bubbles are no longer the social albatross that they once were are there any major friction points that will remain i'd say facetime would be a big one status status yeah i think people still think you're weird that's so funky because like i don't want this to come across the wrong way because i don't care but like my android costs more than your iphone why do you think your iphone is a status symbol i don't know okay i'm just trying to i don't

2:32:28Linus Sebastian:get it i'm just trying to understand it i have an old crappy phone at this point i don't care i never cared all right i think it's such a silly thing like i i mean i think caring about like oh they have a old car therefore poor therefore bad is stupid let alone phones like i i think the whole thing is just dumb so i'm the wrong person to consult on this i will never understand oh you didn't waste your money on like some device that's just gonna basically be useless in like three to five years huh okay cool all right um

2:33:11Luke Lafreniere:my car is 60 this year says gas racing in float plane chat sick that's pretty sick there's

2:33:18Linus Sebastian:definitely a there's definitely a uh you know this yeah they become expensive again

2:33:25Luke Lafreniere:yeah no one in float plane chat gets it or cares yeah which i mean makes sense but iphone users plaudas says most people i know with nicer cars are broke af yeah this is kind of my point yeah i i i gotta say i do find like the car situation a little confusing like i um people in general seem to spend a lot more of their income on their car than i ever have it's so weird like i don't get it at all you know how long i drove the super civic oh yeah and then you know how long i drove the volt yeah you literally know the finances of the company

2:34:16Linus Sebastian:i've driven all of your cars really i never put that together until you just listed it that out but did you own a car before the super civic you could hand me down i did yeah i had a volkswagen in Jetta.

2:34:28Luke Lafreniere:Never mind. Yeah, you never drove that one. Because you also had a Golf. Yeah, that was Yvonne's before we brought the minivan. Have you ever driven our minivan? Okay, no. Okay, he missed the minivan. I did drive the Golf. I think you're still over 50%. Yeah. But you've never ridden my bike. No. At least not once. I'll let you ride b***h if you want, though.

2:34:46Linus Sebastian:The weight balance of that would be kind of crazy. That'd be kind of crazy, because you're up higher, too. Yeah, I did ride on the back of a moped with Dennis in Taipei. Yeah, that was scary. That was a little nuts. That was pretty scary. That was a little wild.

2:35:01Luke Lafreniere:Luke's lived in all of Linus' houses too. Oh yeah, that. No, not in the current one. Although I did offer, while you had your issues recently, to let you come live with us and he refused. He wouldn't. He didn't want that Pokemon. I stayed at my parents. So I'd be down here. You'd be up here. I mean, I'd give it a shot. Even with Yvonne or my son when he was quite a bit younger, I think he was probably about 10 when I was riding with him on the back, weigh a lot less than you. I don't know if I could balance that bike with you on it. Yeah, you may have to like 3X it. You'd be up so high and your legs are not really that long that you would not be able to put your foot down until we were quite horizontal.

2:35:53Luke Lafreniere:And also, this is really hot if it was operating. So that could be really dangerous. Is there foot placements?

2:36:00Linus Sebastian:Yeah, the pegs are... It's a little too pixely, but yeah, I can imagine. Yeah, so you put these down and then you're pegging. It would look hilarious.

2:36:11Luke Lafreniere:Oh, it would look so ridiculous. You'd look like Donkey Kong in Mario Kart on my bike, like sitting on the back of it like that. Yeah. Ridiculous. Yeah.

2:36:29Luke Lafreniere:uh next topic tcl has been banned from calling some of its tvs qled due to a lack of dots that is to say a lack of cadmium and indium in the optical sheets for their tvs they also found this so this is a munich court they also found that this meant the tvs did not have the color performance that is normally associated with quantum dot or QLED technology. This ruling comes as a result of a lawsuit filed by Samsung where they commissioned testing of TCL displays and accused them of misleading consumers in their marketing. TCL and Hisense are also facing class action lawsuits in the US over the marketing of QLED TVs.

2:37:12Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, I actually support Samsung's efforts here. It's kind of based. I had a recent experience with a TV manufacturer where they talked to me and explained and showed some of the work that they do, not to reverse engineer their competitors' products, but to evaluate their competitors' products. So the kinds of breakdowns that they'll do on it to really understand the performance of their competitors' products so they know what they're up against. and we'll have a video on this pretty soon but there were some shocking revelations that unless you have the engineering expertise to literally disassemble the tv and and watch it operate and get scopes on it and like really know what it's doing you would never know um and there's much like you see in phone benchmarking or much like we've seen over the years in phone benchmarking there's a lot of cheating that can be done when TVs are detecting particular test patterns or scenes.

2:38:13Luke Lafreniere:And it's getting harder and harder to not only stop that cheating, but even notice it because it's a feature, not a bug that every TV these days has an AI processor in it that is analyzing everything on the screen. So they really do know everything they're displaying and they can tune the image and they can tune the behavior of the TV accordingly. Samsung actually has gotten caught doing things like that, like boosting their brightness during test patterns. If I recall correctly, that was on what, the S95B? Let me know in chat if anyone remembers. I'm pretty sure that was a thing, but I don't want to say that and be wrong.

2:38:54Luke Lafreniere:Come on, anyone? Was that Samsung? we could talk about this uh this cute little 14 year old think pad this was fun that got upgraded for 25 bucks no one no one still no one yeah a youtuber named onion boots set out to make a near

2:39:15Linus Sebastian:perfect think pad since the peeling energy star sticker was just enough to justify it never becoming a display piece the near perfect think pads general specs are a third gen intel core i5 2230 m or an i7 3520 m isn't this a specific model i don't know okay uh 16 gigs of ddr3 and a 12 and a half inch led backlit tn panel at 1366 by 768 that display is a yikes the display is kind of the biggest problem here it's a decent amount of memory actually uh onion boots claims that it's not a full HD mod, but rather a simple swap to an IPS LG panel. It's from the same year and has the same resolution. A little unfortunate, but the jump from TN to IPS is pretty sweet.

2:40:03Linus Sebastian:Onionboot simply didn't feel comfortable with soldering. So it's the...

2:40:06Luke Lafreniere:It's only 25 bucks. Anyway, I just thought it was cool. Hey, don't forget...

2:40:10Linus Sebastian:Pretty legit.

2:40:10Luke Lafreniere:Older laptops. Sometimes you can improve your display, throw an SSD in it. They can be very usable, especially with something like, I don't know, Linux Mint. My discussion question here, though, is actually kind of unrelated. Can we stop doing this? Tom's Hardware? Oh, yeah. Bro has a name. Bro has a channel name. Okay, yeah, it's here. And you do eventually get into it. One intrepid YouTuber, uh-huh, uh-huh, okay, where, where, where do we get? The YouTuber Onion Boots, like, how far below the fold are we here um how would you like it if instead of saying the article that brought this to my attention was tom's hardware i said traditional written media site reports that a youtuber has upgraded their 14 year old thinkpad can we not we all have names thank you for coming to my ted talk oh i've watched

2:41:13Linus Sebastian:onion boots before i was gonna say i feel like i recognize this channel but yeah they're yeah their one video that went freaking crazy maybe it would be pretty good for their channel

2:41:22Luke Lafreniere:if everyone who reported on the cool work that they're doing um maybe named them in the headline

2:41:28Linus Sebastian:that would be pretty cool it is a super cool video though like if you if you think the laptop video is like neat but isn't going to draw you in onion boots has a video called a a web revival the internet didn't die you're just not on it and this video is awesome it's really cool so maybe check it out it talks about like websites like this that is his that are up right now which like feel like older website you can see the links section it talks about how a lot of these older style websites link to each other and it's like a cool old surfing the web style feeling that you can find on the internet if you if you go to these different sites so check that video it's cool he references a bunch of different ones that you could go check out and it's uh yeah it's actually just genuinely awesome video.

2:42:12Linus Sebastian:Can you play Minesweeper in the background of that site?

2:42:15Luke Lafreniere:I don't know. Is that what I'm looking at here? Hold on. Hold on just a gosh darn minute here.

2:42:20Linus Sebastian:Oh my god. Are you kidding me right now? So I think it's not like I'm doing it as well and I'm clearly not playing like with you so it's local but yeah.

2:42:34Luke Lafreniere:I mean that's Minesweeper. That's a Minesweeper if I've ever seen one.

2:42:43Luke Lafreniere:pet something I have always

2:42:48Linus Sebastian:name your egg egg hatching in 21 seconds this feels very Neo Pets but yeah there's a bunch of very very cool video and it links to other people's sites

2:43:10Luke Lafreniere:oh whoops oh crap i clicked the wrong side of my trackpad don't play my don't play minesweeper with a trackpad uh-huh yeah anyways cool valve has finally detailed steam machines verified program at gdc 2026 valve confirms that games need to stable 1080p 30 fps in order to earn the steam machine verified badge so the same performance bar as steam deck verified just at a higher resolution any game that is already deck verified automatically qualifies and the steam machine is confirmed to have six times the performance of the deck this 30 fps floor is just the minimum for the badge valve has previously said that most steam titles can hit 4k 60 fps on the hardware as long as you enable fsr upscaling um our discussion question oh it's an interesting one actually sony and microsoft tell you exactly what their consoles can do at launch i mean sort of many games do have a performance or quality toggle now but the our discussion question goes on to ask is valves that depends on the game approach good enough for people who want the simplicity of just plugging something into their tv and pressing play so don't know that sony and

2:44:23Linus Sebastian:microsoft's ones are always necessarily fully true no but they definitely simplify the message

2:44:30Luke Lafreniere:yeah and you mostly understand what you're getting i mean sony had that whole debacle where they had 8k all over the packaging for the ps5 and then just kind of quietly removed it

2:44:42Linus Sebastian:it seems like it wasn't a problem i i i understand the argument and i think it's valid i think the audience for steam stuff is a little bit different i think so too uh i also think that the way that they're positioning this by saying like pretty much everything's going to be fine i think will kind of whisk that away a little bit and i suspect there'll be an understanding that like at launch an xbox is going to play a certain amount of games and at launch the steam machine is going to play damn near freaking everything and you're going to have to understand that there's

2:45:15Luke Lafreniere:going to be some scale there i'm going to come out and say most people don't care yeah and like but really actually don't care and the people who do probably know better than to buy a steam machine and expect to run at, you know, 4K 120 FPS.

2:45:33Linus Sebastian:Okay, so you can run Star Citizen on Linux? So if you can play games like that... I mean, according to AI, you did the thing. I found myself doing the thing sometimes, too. No, no, no, no, I saw this. Okay, alright. Okay, good. Just checking.

2:45:49Luke Lafreniere:Sometimes I do the thing, Luke.

2:45:52Linus Sebastian:I try to resist. I try to resist, too. I saw that Reddit thread where it says I run Star Citizen on my Linux box. I use Arch, by the way. have no issues whatsoever i saw that you can see the i still didn't click through yep but i saw this yep uh but i i yeah i try i try to resist reddit wants your click make sure to support i

2:46:10Luke Lafreniere:did i did click on small up-and-coming platforms like reddit need your help um i was gonna say

2:46:17Linus Sebastian:yeah but it's like you know if you're able to run games like that like damn how are they supposed

2:46:22Luke Lafreniere:to verify stuff yeah what is what does run stars it doesn't mean so like you don't run stars whatever

2:46:31Linus Sebastian:i think their explanation is pretty good i i totally understand the discussion question i think it's a fair thing to point out um it isn't as clear and easy as the console ones but i kind of prefer this because it feels a lot more legit and i hope that people read it properly yeah our

2:46:47Luke Lafreniere:last big topic here. Anthropic's Claude can now I'm sticking with my pronunciation. Cloud can now control your computer. Anthropic has launched a research preview of computer use for Cloud Pro and Mac subscribers on Mac OS, letting Cloud open apps, navigate browsers, fill spreadsheets, and handle multi-step tasks on your computer. It pairs with Dispatch, a new mobile tool that lets you assign tasks to Cloud from your phone and have it execute them on your desktop. Anthropic warns. the feature is early, can still make mistakes, and they advise against giving it access to sensitive data for now.

2:47:23Luke Lafreniere:They also say, cloud will always ask permission before accessing new apps. Linus comment, this is when I posted the news in the news feed, what could go wrong? Even Microsoft has been restrained enough to not just let co-pilot do stuff on your computer which i've talked about sort of defeats the purpose of even like having an ai assistant on my computer if it can't do anything then what's the point of it but also that's totally fine well it looks like anthropic has kind of gone oh yeah what is the point of an ai assistant on your computer if it can't just like completely do stuff for you and now we get this um this was the wrong answer but i guess we have it now

2:48:22Linus Sebastian:uh now what so i was just reading a very confusing comment um i don't know there's been multiple things i've been able to do this already i i think by adding it to claude pro and max you're you're bringing it to more mainstream people um which is going to be freaking spicy i do think it's really interesting that the thing that microsoft was pushing is going to happen on mac from someone else before it will happen on windows with with copilot yeah um it's pretty funny just windows doing microsoft doing current era microsoft things i guess um yeah interesting kits lane chat says my ai assistant cannot stop ordering candles help i had i had somebody uh invite their ai assistant to a discord call that we were in the other day and prompted it with voice in the discord call and then told it to leave the discord call and it disconnected um it's a weird world people living on the edge are doing some crazy stuff right now it's uh yeah it's interesting i was looking into like i really want to have a local setup going um and i was looking into building one and just ram holy god you can borrow mine

2:49:45Luke Lafreniere:it's like if he wants the experience of setting it up he wants to he doesn't actually want to use it i feel called out as well like that's the whole thing that's like my whole life that's why we like that's why we get each other because i'm the kind of person who loves building gaming pcs but doesn't actually game that much you know all right i see you yeah i didn't know luke felt like that too

2:50:11Linus Sebastian:i do want to use it but i'm not going to end up using it as much you're not going to i'm not going to use it enough to like justify it hey have you tried your big screen beyond yet no yeah have you but i looked into setting it up because the the room that okay so the computers are in a different room now so where the base stations were set up is not where the computers are anymore um so i'm trying to figure out how to deal with that he's going to do it eventually the new yeah yeah he's gonna do the new room that the computers are set up in there is less space he's gonna do it so i've been trying to figure out basically is it worth it to get another pair of base stations basically and have base stations in there in the smaller room that i can use like at my desk with my computer base stations more like based stations what a solution i love it or should i just put them up where they were and then find some way to tether all the way into the other room long-range tether risky yeah and i don't want to have a separate box in that other room yeah that sucks yeah that's ram expensive yeah just like as far as i can tell everyone else i'd really rather not build a computer right now so it's like okay um but yeah the the amount of available space in the room that my computer's in now is kind of rough so it's like ah okay and another annoying thing we asked them like not to seal over the holes for the screws for the where the base stations were and they left one of them just fine but they totally like sealed over the other one so now you'll have to put a hole in your wall

2:51:56Luke Lafreniere:yeah two of them

2:51:57Linus Sebastian:two holes I think it's two pretty sure it's two

2:52:00Luke Lafreniere:two holes do they make a half though um Bernardo super long cable that's what we were just saying Bernardo Baruch I'm fine. This is not an injection site for my horrible addiction. I just. That would be a brutal spot. Oh, my God. I dived for an epic badminton return and it was amazing. And I slid on my elbow. Yeah. Yeah, it was awesome.

2:52:26Linus Sebastian:Don't do it at all, but especially not there. I mean, you might not do it again.

2:52:35Luke Lafreniere:Not medical advice. yeah it's true all right let's jump uh let's jump into after dark are we at after dark time i think

2:52:42Linus Sebastian:so let's do this thing see it's it's the common curse you said it was going to be such an incredibly long show and now we're at after dark before we were last time that's how it works oh yeah how'd that happen oh this the show's going to be really really short this week and then it's yeah what's up with that every time you complain that there's no topics it's a five-hour show and every time there's too many topics it's really fast i wonder if it's a self-fulfilling prophecy i think maybe because you're trying to correct for yeah we're just too good at correcting for the amount of topics how many years have you guys been doing this at least one

2:53:20Luke Lafreniere:factually correct yeah all right let's see what we have for you today hey tall tall and short i hope it's a good news wanshow you were correct it's pretty nice and trying to find a good recommendation for a cpu upgrade for my friend still on am4 because 5800 x3ds are gone are the xt cpus worth upgrading in my opinion no not really um oh yeah that's a that's a tough one because on the one hand an am4 chip is still good enough to game like you you're not giving up much as soon as you're up at like 1440p, unless you have like a god tier GPU. So, you know, the good news is they're probably having a pretty good experience.

2:54:12Luke Lafreniere:The bad news is that if they want to upgrade at this point, their options are kind of limited without going for a full new platform, which I would assume we're trying to avoid spending money on DDR5.

2:54:30Linus Sebastian:yeah that is one of this is a little off topic but that is one of the things i was looking into is like what is the most cranked processor i can get that's still ddr4 because the price saving is yeah there's i was thinking 5950x uh but i have not done very much looking into this i wouldn't

2:54:47Luke Lafreniere:i wouldn't want to spend that kind of money how much are they on an old platform uh

2:54:56Luke Lafreniere:so 5950x you're spending 336 bucks and the bad news about that is you're not really getting much out of the other eight cores from from a gaming standpoint oh yeah see in my perspective i'm not gaming right yeah so there you go um i mean like this is like it's okay but like by the time i'm $300 like I wonder if these went up because of the whole RAM thing. Oh yeah 100 % Yeah it's been a thing Hold on Intel What are the bloody What are the bloody new ones called? I think it was ASRock or something did that

2:55:33Linus Sebastian:Like oh it's DDR5 and DDR4 On the same motherboard thing. I wish they would just have The I don't know the cojones To just it's just DDR4 Whatever Modern CPU four slots DDR4 go for it 12700k is what Pankratz is recommending 12700k yeah that's probably well ooh that's actually oh that's a new price hold on let me find it on like ebay or something

2:55:59Luke Lafreniere:where the bloody hell are the core ultras the new ones oh yeah those are still they're kind of expensive so by the time you're spending that kind of money this is a much faster chip um and uh this guy this guy is actually like kind of stellar uh for 220 plus

2:56:23Linus Sebastian:chips are pretty wicked i wish building computers was like a thing that people were doing right now because it was so sad seeing that video like not just get like two million views because everyone's

2:56:34Luke Lafreniere:so hyped on the new processors yeah like that dude the core ultra 5 250k plus awful name um Pretty exciting chip. Yeah. And just no one can afford RAM. Yeah. But by the time I've saved$100 compared to that 5950X, right? Because I'm getting 18 cores. Yeah, not all of them are performance cores or whatever, but I'm getting 18 cores now instead of 16 cores. Like, let's have a look at 16 gigs DDR5. Remember, I just saved$100. Yep. So yeah, it's$220 for DDR5, but I can probably sell my DDR4 for some money. And now all of a sudden, I'm getting a whole platform upgrade. I'm moving to PCIe Gen 5. I just...

2:57:24Luke Lafreniere:By design, it feels like AMD, by no longer producing X3D chips for the AM4 platform, is kind of undercutting what was supposed to be one of the promises of that platform is having that upgrade path. And in some ways, it's not AMD's fault because they had no way of knowing that the secondhand market for these X3D chips was going to go absolutely bazonkers. But on the other hand, they totally probably could make X3D chips and then AM4 users who didn't go X3D earlier would have an upgrade path. um but it's but you can see like it's it's one of those funny things it's like back when i bought a minivan and i realized that it wasn't cheaper to buy a used one per sort of like usable remaining uh low maintenance life because everyone had made the same spreadsheet that i did yeah in the same way everyone has access to the same performance data that i do and that you do and is doing the same calculation going okay how do we position our products so that they're like you know these ones are pretty okay but what you really want is this one and so they're looking at RAM pricing they're balancing that against how much their CPUs cost and their motherboards cost and they're trying to make it they're trying to make the one they want you to buy more compelling and the one they don't want you to buy less compelling so that's probably the route that I would go right now if you were looking for a serious upgrade on am4 and x3d is not really an option and pankratz's advice is pretty good what do you say 12 700k yeah um that's that's a really solid option as well i'm just i'm a little worried that while we are saving some money by sticking with the ddr4 we're changing our motherboard and we're changing our cpu and i'm not sure if we're getting enough of an upgrade for that in game i think it's really going to depend on your local market too that yeah 100 yeah um and what's nice about uh my option of going ddr5 now even though like that sucks is that ddr4 is also benefiting from the rampocalypse in terms of its value so the fact that you have some ddr4 helps take a little bit of a bite out of that ddr5 upgrade yeah all right hit me dan hi lld my dad has been stealing my screwdriver a lot lately so i'm getting one for his birthday nice what is your favorite present that you have received from your kids or your parents from you oh wow favorite present from my kids there's a really cute one they made me they made me an iPad that was like a little like a not like a pop-up book but like like a lift the flap thing so it has a whole bunch of apps on it and then in each app they like wrote something nice under it that's cool it's really cute Yvonne helped them make it oh you know what there was another really good one they did for me they made me pajamas that had like vinyl iron on things of just things I like so it has like a badminton racket on it and like a cat and like a bunch of just like kind of random stuff like that i wore those into the ground uh usually yvonne is the actual you know driver of the stuff that my kids give me that i really like that makes sense um i don't need anything from my kids their smile when i walk in the door is like realistically all i ever hope to need from them hallmark card um sorry hallmark card i don't want a hallmark card it sounds like what's on a hallmark oh sure I'd rather have nothing than like spending, wasting$6 I agree so much on a card 13 I don't know how much a Hallmark card costs they're insane, it's so stupid

3:01:07Linus Sebastian:no dog

3:01:11Linus Sebastian:I'm gonna hear about saying that, but I'd stand by it they're ridiculous I I don't know if it's necessarily my favorite but one of, a very memorable one for me is, you know, when you turn 16 at least up here there was a lot of conversations around like are your parents gonna get you a car um that was not gonna be a thing for us but my dad bought me it's supposed to be a gift from you to your parents oh hmm hallmark card no i've got some cool ones i'm trying to think of like what's the i mean i think the one you did this year was really cool You

3:01:54Luke Lafreniere:Do I talk about that? It's up to you. It's over now, so no one's going to harass you there.

3:02:01Linus Sebastian:Lord of the Rings was a huge thing for my family. My mom has a huge chest of memorabilia from back then. We won some call-in contests that I think you had to know details with the movies or something to try to win to get us an advanced screening for, I believe it was Two Towers. I won that. I think I brought my mom. I think it was sorry I said the other way around it was my mom and I that went I think it was I think I won it anyways whatever very very very into Lord of the Rings and they had a 25 year anniversary thing this year and the Hobbits and the actor for Gimli and the actor for Faramir were all going to be there and you could do like meet and greets and photos and stuff and I got everybody tickets to go there and like meet people and whatnot.

3:02:51Linus Sebastian:And it's, it's interesting. I think I talked about that a little bit on, on the show here, but it's interesting, um, how it kind of went. Yeah, no, it wasn't how you expected. No, I mean, the show was terribly ran. It was actually like kind of fascinating how poorly the show was ran. Uh, I talked to, there was somebody there. I don't remember his name right now. I, I hope I gave him a shout out last time I talked about it, but there was somebody there that like really helped our experience not be really terrible. Um, which was, which was awesome. Um, oh, someone in chat said John Rhys-Davies is a bundle of joy.

3:03:24Linus Sebastian:Yeah. He was like amazing. And from watching the movies, Gimli is like one of my least favorite characters. Really? He's like very definitely just uses comedic relief. Most of the time. I actually appreciate him in the movies way more now because I've met John Rhys-Davies in real life and I'm like, oh, he's just kind of like that. when we were all taking photos he was like tickling people to try to get them to laugh and he'd like get really happy if he got you he'd be like he was very funny that's fun and yeah like the you have to toss me scene it's so good felt a lot more like real after meeting him too like it feels less acted that's just kind of what he's like yeah that was awesome but yeah that's probably one of my I like that one more yeah I thought that one was awesome yeah it was pretty sweet

3:04:24Luke Lafreniere:up next two quests Linus what is your strategy to keep your mind sharp what do you do diet reading sleep we know about exercise but what else do you do and Luke when's the chicken recipe help a bro it's on float plane it is it is you can find it lmg.gg slash float plane Luke not only gives you the recipe, he makes it. Yep. So he shows you how to do it. Keeping my mind sharp. I mean, is it sharp?

3:04:54Luke Lafreniere:You'd be honest, right? Yeah, I think so. It's the same answer that I give everyone when they ask me something like this. You know, oh, how did you work so hard in the early days of LMG? And how do you do this? And how did you succeed? How did you do that? I don't have a choice. I get home at the end of the day and I have a splitting headache very often because you can only, you can, it's a weird thing because it doesn't seem intuitive. Your brain's not a muscle, but it does, in my experience, it does wear out. Like my brain gets really tired and there are certain things that make it more tired than other things.

3:05:39Luke Lafreniere:But when you run a business, you can't avoid those things. You don't really have that luxury of like, this task is not good for my mental health. You get, fortunately, a lot of support if you have a good team. And I do. But at the end of the day, you can't just like hide from things. And if you do, they tend to snowball and get bigger. and we've had those experiences many times over the years where we've tried to avoid a problem and ultimately it has turned into a much bigger problem. No choice. Power through it. Terrible advice. I'm not great for self-care, but how do I do it like that?

3:06:28Linus Sebastian:Yeah, sometimes you just gotta do it. For a bit of a slight jump back, this is it. If you're looking for it, there's your title.

3:06:35Luke Lafreniere:i i do i do read um i try to sleep i often am not able to sleep anymore i don't know if it's like just age or stress or kids or whatever it is um it's been really rough i try to not eat total garbage although i had a really i had the worst cheat day that i can remember are you doing that thing i recommended uh oh i've tried the ultra filtered milk okay it doesn't taste that great that isn't what i was talking about but uh oh the uh the powder yeah i haven't tried that yet okay um no no no no when i'm no i'm talking like cheat day like this is no i was just that was a different thought so i went down for a little workshop uh buddy of mine danny's a badminton guy but he runs a paint shop uh jake actually introduced us of all people and so he runs like a paint spray shop and um after my terrible experience painting my bike um he was like chatting with me and was like oh yeah i could like maybe like show you how to paint some stuff and i was like oh yeah i could get like a care package of merch for your son he's his son's really into the channel anyway we figured out a deal and danny's a super nice guy very generous with his time um he's come out and run a couple of like badminton reddit group meetups at our badminton club the world is so small and um you never know what kind of connection you're gonna make by just like being nice to people.

3:07:59Luke Lafreniere:So anyway, we've, so we've done a few things together and he offered to help me figure out my paint gun so that if I ever try to tackle something like that again, I maybe will be somewhat competent this time. It won't take two and a half years. Um, anyway, I was on my way back from that really nice little session. I've learned a lot. And I was like, Oh, it's Krispy Kreme still open. And unfortunately it was. so linus has a thing for crispy cream i got myself a dozen of the crispy cream original glazed that evening it was probably the most perfectly baked batch of crispy cream donuts that i have ever eaten the glazing was perfect not too much sugar like the bottom still had no sugar but it was like down the sides so it wasn't like too sweet and it was like the lightest chewiest like Like it was, I ate eight of them that evening and four the next morning, three and a half.

3:09:02Luke Lafreniere:My daughters caught me with the last one in my hand. They were like, are the rest of them gone? Are there any for us? Because I had intended to share them. It's, I don't know how they make something that has so many calories in it taste so light. it's incredible and i even i went really late at night thinking oh it's probably going to be like a crappy batch from like many hours ago but it was like the freshest perfectest batch of crispy creams i ever had i just oh oh man it was so good it's so good that's pretty sweet yeah i so i cheated like super hard earlier this week and then i punished myself on the stair master i am uh i think i'm i think i'm pinch test okay today so it clearly wasn't that bad yeah pinch yeah pinch test uh there's like dude be i'm i'm closing in on 40 and there's like there's like front flap that just won't go away anymore you just start to carry more weight it just sucks man it sucks

3:10:14Luke Lafreniere:that's life though

3:10:16Linus Sebastian:I've been losing decently consistently lately I started with the knee problems I sent you a little video of it I started the treadmill walks again I have like a foldy treadmill that can unfold and go under my desk and that's been pretty good part of that is just getting back into the habit of remembering to do that oh yeah is annoying um because like i'll just be so lasered in on work or whatever that i just forget to switch um but then once it's going i can stay on it for a while um

3:10:54Luke Lafreniere:190 calories is no big deal but 12 yeah no no dan was saying it's only 190 yeah yeah i was just I was in chat clarifying. It's 190 each. Yes. Yes. No, 190 each.

3:11:07Linus Sebastian:That's actually way better than I would have expected. Me too.

3:11:11Luke Lafreniere:Let's see. McDouble gallery. If you get a McDouble, it's 400 calories. Yeah. So I sat down and I ate four McDoubles in one sitting. That's not good.

3:11:22Linus Sebastian:Oh, no. I'm not saying it's good. Okay.

3:11:24Luke Lafreniere:Like, okay, if you had one. Dan seems to be trying to rationalize my terrible behavior.

3:11:29Linus Sebastian:No, no, I was surprised that like a donut is not McDonald's milkshake. Oh, those are like a thousand. I try to go with medium to be pretty chill. 750 calories for a medium milkshake from McDonald's. Yeah, milkshakes are brutal. I love milkshakes.

3:11:52Luke Lafreniere:What about like a fries? But I just, I almost never do it anymore. Sometimes I will share a milkshake with Yvonne if she has one. but I just, I can't.

3:12:01Linus Sebastian:A medium fries is 350 calories from, and like who's getting medium? So we're talking 560 calories for a large fries from McDonald's. And this is a Canadian one. I'm sure the American size is bigger. Wouldn't be too surprised. So it's like for, you know, for that many fries, you get a few donuts in there. Yep, yep.

3:12:20Luke Lafreniere:And I would, I think I would take three Krispy Kreme donuts. I would thousand percent take three Krispy Kremes over. Oh, McDonald's fries. Okay, if they're freshly fried though,

3:12:30Linus Sebastian:look you guys have heard me dunk on mcdonald's a lot of times on this show oh sorry sorry aj not not r aj but but full point chat aj said i run an ice cream parlor our brownie sundae is 1600 calories that's insane holy crap that's these numbers like the fries and the milkshake and that are all why i'm saying like oh it's like surprising that it's only 190 um eating 12 of them is one serving of mcdonald's plain hamburger bun is 150 calories this is what i'm saying it's actually very surprising that's that low nuts probably because i i think the it's it's a cake one right so it's mostly like kind of air it's pretty airy yeah it's pretty airy i haven't had one of those in most of it

3:13:19Luke Lafreniere:It probably comes from sugar rather than like fat. Anyway, you've heard me dunk on McDonald's a lot of times, but I am a fry enjoyer. McDonald's fries are, dude, when the... Fresh McDonald's fries. Pretty good. Yeah, I'll just, I'll eat them without even thinking about it. I can't have them within reach. Like our kids don't eat McDonald's much, but when we do get it, I have to just put the fries in the back where I can't reach them because I'll just eat them all and they won't even get any.

3:13:55Luke Lafreniere:What is the correct price, in your opinion, for a hybrid motorcycle? What kind of miles per gallon or liters per kilometer target should it hit? Should it be feet forward or standard or sit it scooter style? That is totally up to you. personally i do not have nor do i have any interest in a hybrid motorcycle i i like my old crappy 23 year old bike from 2003 um it makes motorsports noises which makes me happy which normally i don't care about i don't care about it for my go-kart i don't care about it for my full-sized car i just don't care about like like that type of engagement with the vehicle anywhere except my motorcycle um and the efficiency for me of a motorcycle is a lot less important than the efficiency of a car in my life or a much larger vehicle in my life like it just it's so small and it consumes so little fuel like a van right like a like a honda odyssey like a much larger vehicle like that um and so i just i can't i can't care too much about that i also never ride very far so comfort is not a major concern so i i'm on like the street bike i'm like all folded over the the handlebars and stuff i'm the wrong person to ask is what i'm trying to say right now because the way i use my bike is just completely unaligned with your very practical concerns and i'm so sorry to give you such a non-answer but at least it was a thorough and long one that's all that matters in the end aloha ldl from hawaii what is your best component overheating story my 6950 was hitting 114 due to cheap thermal paste oops thanks for selling ptm 7950 yikes um i haven't really had a lot of tons of problems with it computer overheating story i mean i've definitely had some issues there's been uh i mean i mean there's the multiple times that i've accidentally boiled water in a loop and uh therefore caused it to build pressure and explode tubing off of the fittings like that's that's the thing because you run so many test benches you're just like putting things together quickly so if you don't have the fans running on a radiator because you know whatever if it runs for long enough the coolant will get hot maybe not maybe not like boiling boiling but enough that you're getting pressure build up and uh and i've i've had that happen before i don't remember the specifics around it but it's funny i think i think everything lived i think it's happened a couple times i don't think i've ever actually killed anything like that because as long as it's clean water and you get it off right away and you turn cut the power uh you can actually hardware is very survivable like that coke uh that coke video we did where we spilled coke on the running machine and then we like cleaned it all and turned it back on we didn't stage that we don't fake stuff that happened it all lived yeah

3:17:16Linus Sebastian:yeah so when posted uh when bingo chronified posted that the macbook neo is funny you had a single thermal pad and benchmarks go up 30 yeah uh was it optimum tech that did it some

3:17:28Luke Lafreniere:someone did it sorry um and it's it's a little more complicated than that i haven't actually watched optimum's video um but i do know eta prime sorry eta prime did it uh so i haven't watched DTA Prime's video and so I don't know exactly how they did it. What I suspect is that it's really similar to the mod that we did back on the M1 MacBook way back in the day where you're just using the bottom of the chassis as a heatsink. So it's not just as simple as Apple is herder, too stupid to put cooling in their machine. I mean, there's clearly a little bit of that, but it's not that they were too cheap to put in a thermal pad.

3:18:06Luke Lafreniere:It's that Apple has to follow guidelines for how hot the skin temperatures of the device can get so they're not allowed to just put the cpu or soc as it were heat directly into the bottom of the chassis because they would exceed those safe temperatures if it was sitting on your lap it sounds like alex actually oh did

3:18:26Linus Sebastian:they do that too mr zip tie tech just threw in a thermal pad oh that's cool um i haven't watched the video but it got a bunch of views on it heck yeah cool um mess around with some cooling i don't know where it's at in the video but you guys will have to just check it out it gets oh cooling upgrade here well you guys should go watch the video we're not gonna yeah yeah i'm just looking at it myself but yeah that's that's pretty sweet i saw um probably without this cooling upgrade that people were getting, you know, with settings pretty low and whatnot, but above 30 FPS in Cyberpunk. That's pretty cool.

3:19:07Linus Sebastian:Which is pretty nuts.

3:19:09Luke Lafreniere:All right, Dan, want to hit us with another?

3:19:14No.

3:19:16Luke Lafreniere:No, I don't think I have that much interest in getting it working. I did watch someone else's video getting one of them working. It's highly involved. It's not as simple as just...

3:19:28Linus Sebastian:talking about because he was muted so what what device uh nomad mp3 player from the dank pods

3:19:32Luke Lafreniere:collab video yeah we're not fixing that it's just i don't care that much about it i'm so sorry to the nomad enthusiasts who wish that we were fixing it i double pressed a couple more here hello linus when your kids had a pure toddler meltdown how did you and approach that and did you de-stress afterwards distress de-stress i think they mean yeah a pure toddler meltdown is one of those things that if you handle it right you have to handle it only a few times and um the bottom line is that you can only give positive reinforcement for behaviors that you want to see again so if a meltdown gets the slice of cake you will see that behavior over and over and over and over again.

3:20:22Luke Lafreniere:And if a meltdown gets you seated on a bench outside the restaurant where you are within eyeshot, but not allowed to participate, it might even be a little cold that night. You're less likely to see it again. And we did have to go through meltdowns with all of our kids at one stage or another. And sometimes those battles literally took hours. I think I've told the story on Wancho before of the time that I was in an Ikea cafeteria for, I think it was a total of three cycles of other people starting and finishing their meals while I sat there battling it out with this crying child over that I had said you have to take one more bite.

3:21:04Luke Lafreniere:And she said, no. And I said, you don't understand. You will take another bite. And after that, there was no question because when I said, and literally I brought this up the next time we had a battle over food is I said, you have to eat this broccoli. And she said, no. And I said, okay, well, we can do it the way where you take the bite now and you eat the broccoli now, or we can do it the way we did at Ikea, where you sat there and you cried for an hour and a half or two hours or whatever it was, and you did take the bite. So how do you want to do it?

3:21:45Luke Lafreniere:Can I go now? Yes. The tough part is you've got to be, you've got to keep your cool. You have to be good on the other end of it, yeah. You have to keep your cool in the moment because if you lose it and you threaten something that you're not willing to follow through on or that you shouldn't follow through on, you've completely broken the system. You have to stay controlled and you have to only threaten things that are reasonable and that you will follow through on. Yeah, so man, it's tough. Last one I got for you today. Question for Luke. You mentioned Forza Horizon earlier and I'm wondering if you've played any of the older Forza Horizon games.

3:22:33Luke Lafreniere:Two and three are still some of my favorite games.

3:22:36Linus Sebastian:No, I've thought about going back actually because there was, I think, I originally wanted to get into Forza because of drifting and then to be completely honest i actually really did not like the drifting in forza horizon 5 unless you were off-road really really liked the off-road drifting but the like on track on road drifting forza horizon 5 i really kind of hated um it just felt like liquid it didn't feel like it was i i don't want it to be an actual sim i wasn't playing horizon for a sim um but it just it felt way too whack um even like mario kart drifting felt like it was more grounded in something that made sense um but i i've seen some clips of some pretty cool drifting stuff in older horizon games but yeah i've never really got around to it there was almost like too much content in horizon 5 uh to the point where when i when i was done i was just like okay i think i'm gonna take a break from racing games for a little bit um

3:23:41Luke Lafreniere:yeah what no i like sorange luke doesn't not like the drifting in mario kart world no i don't like

3:23:47Linus Sebastian:it oh you don't like it they are totally right oh what's wrong with it it's just worse than eight i'm not necessarily saying it's bad oh interesting it's just worse than eight and it's not necessarily how it feels but it's how like the game interacts with it how it rewards it when you should use it

3:24:03Luke Lafreniere:versus other things stuff like that is it just because you're used to eight it could be i actually really like i've been open to that as a possibility i only ever played mario kart ds extensively and it's really close to ds so i was able to just pick it up and go and i really don't like the drifting

3:24:19Linus Sebastian:in eight i mean okay fair enough the mario kart drifting eight versus world is like insanely different than uh horizon the reason why i brought it up was because like in mario kart you can kind of like really feel the bite of the road as you're trying to drift and in in in horizon five and some people uh corroborated this in float plane jet as well in horizon five when you take a drift car tuned for drifting and you take it on the road the road just might as well not even be there it's just like you're just kind of floating around like it's it's very weird um i've been in cars while they were drifting i've drifted in other games yeah it's you're really kind of like fighting with the engine in the road to make yourself go around this thing there's a lot of like force feedback like a lot of it and in horizon she's like like just i don't know it's weird and that's why i actually preferred drifting off-road was because fighting the like gravel and dirt or whatever actually ended up feeling a lot more legit than trying to drift on the on the actual asphalt yeah pancrast is saying horizon 5 feels like the physics are weird with drift cars yeah it feels really weird it doesn't feel good um i think the main thing with world wasn't necessarily how the drifting felt but how the game like rewarded and incentivized it more than

3:25:42Luke Lafreniere:anything else um but yeah well i think that's all for now because i am busy playing vibes.fish and I have no further time for WAN Show. So we will see you again next week. Same bad time, same bad channel. Oh, and also on another channel next week. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So go subscribe to LMG Clips because that's going to be the WAN Show channel. It'll be called something else, but go subscribe now. Bye!

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