The Louvre Password Was ‘LOUVRE’ - WAN Show November 7, 2025

44:26Like that, yeah, that makes a ton of sense to me. On a train? Like, I have a battery bank in my backpack? Like, really? I don't know, man. Like, yeah, obviously a lithium fire anywhere is bad. But at that point, why not ban them from cars? Why not ban them from buses? Why not ban them in the library at school? Why are we drawing such an arbitrary line?

44:54Yeah, it's... Lithium batteries are interesting. They're terrifying, but also everywhere and not generally a problem. So it's strange. Battery fires on planes are brutal. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, like, I get it.

45:17Yeah, I don't know. I kind of get it. I understand a country wanting to have more control over that, but it seems inconsistently applied. No, you're a blue. I didn't talk to anyone about social credit score. I was mostly memeing. um however it is very clear in public interviews with people in china that they are more careful about what they say than um people in some other places i was i was reading this really interesting interview with um this guy who's he's like a chinese donald trump impersonator have you seen this guy uh i think so uh yeah i'm gonna see who did uh who did the profile of him recently um this guy this is great he's got the body language nailed down you guys you guys should check out his videos but um his interview is very fascinating because he's extremely careful about not getting his his social channels taken down he's like yeah i you know i'm not trying to offend anybody.

46:26This is not political. I'm just doing a voice. That's all. No, really, though. It's not political. I'm not trying to insult anybody. Please, nobody get me in trouble. It's just a voice. Like, really leans into it. And maybe his fear is totally you know, unfounded. Or maybe it's not. I don't know. I don't live there. Alright, Dan. What do you want to talk about next? Why don't we do a couple merch messages? and the CW stuff. Sure, we can do that. So if you're new, merch messages are the way to interact with the WAN show. Hey, there's one right there. Look at that. All you gotta do to send a merch message is head over to lttstore.com.

47:13Looks a little something like, boom, this, whoa, we got some promos. Look at all these banners and promos and all this exciting stuff. But we'll get to that a little bit later. First, I'm just gonna show you guys all you got to do to send a merch message is add this fine juicy piece of chicken to your cart. Head on over to your cart. And when we're live, you'll see a merch message. You just go ahead and fill in what you want to say to the show. Put a nice little color. Decide if you want to have your first name and last initial or if you want to be anonymous. And go ahead and place your order.

47:44It will go to producer Dan who will put it down there if you have a little shout out or he'll reply to it himself or he will curate it. for me and Luke to answer. We like merch messages because they're kind of like what streamers do where you throw your money at the screen and maybe they acknowledge you, maybe they don't, except you get fine, high-quality merchandise in the mail regardless of what happens with your message. Dan, do you want to show us a couple curated ones to show how that works? Yeah, sure. This one's from Ann On. Any smart home content coming up soon? I find it to be super entertaining.

48:19Yes. There will be lots of smart home content i still have to fix my house and in addition to that i think we're going to take a pretty different approach to the tech house that we are in the process of shopping for right now so colton actually has a list of five houses sitting in my inbox right now i've been a little bit busy this week and i haven't gotten a chance to get to it and email is a totally valid way for him to send me a task like that um so i have five houses that i'm supposed a review and once I do that I think the first episode is going to be going around and kind of shopping and comparing and I mean I feel like this is one of those things where as much as it would be prudent for us to take our time over a span of like a couple months and and shop and shop and shop till we drop and find the perfect perfect house I mean the whole content is we're gonna to fix it up anyway.

49:21So I'm kind of, I haven't told anybody this, but I'm kind of leaning, okay, if we have five finalists, we go see them all in one day and we make an offer. And that's the stakes for that video. So we make an offer on one of them. So that'll be the very first episode. And then the second one will probably be okay. Let's take a deeper look at this thing and kind of lay out some concept of a plan. Yeah. An idea for a plan at the very least. Yeah. And then it would be kind of fun if we put our plan on a big poster board or something like that. Or we made kind of a task list of everything that we wanted to do and then kind of draw a few things out.

50:02And then at the very end, we pull the poster board back out. We pull out our cardboard list and we go, okay, how close did we get? I'm really looking forward to it. And I think we're going to take a bit of a different approach to the smart home stuff compared to what we did at my house where it's very DIY. whereas I could see us finding a decent ecosystem that isn't too overpriced and locking into an ecosystem for something that we actually intend for someone else to use as long as that ecosystem allows local control that will always be that will always be a red line always i was like you don't like that uh cool yeah no no no no no no no no okay let's go gambling what let's go gambling let's go gambling what are you guys talking about don't don't worry about it let's go gambling as video content creators how long did it take for y 'all to get used to your faces being on camera why said let's go gambling i don't know Oh, there's been some discussion on the subreddit and other various places about the current promo that we're running.

51:20So why don't I just interrupt and talk about the promo that's running on LTTstore.com. We are kicking off November with a holiday loot drop. That's right, my friends. Spend$100 or more on LTTstore.com and you will have about a 1 in 10 chance to win a prize until November 26th. That is an estimate. We do not know for sure because we don't know exactly how many people will enter, but it is an estimate. You can win either a pair of Sennheiser HD 550 headphones, like the ones that I am wearing right now, or if you're really lucky you'll win an asus rog xbox ally that says ally but this one is black is it the ally or the ally x somebody please hit me with the answer for real fast i'm pretty sure it's the x it's the black one the performant one cool that is pretty solid odds for buying stuff that yeah you might have been thinking of picking up anyway like the glitch desk pad which is now available on the u.s site um it's also a great excuse to talk yourself into uh oh hold on where oh what uh i'm a little bit confused oh i need to refresh refresh the page there we go the vanity that's right it's when v3 it's back and redder than ever in true WAN show colors as voted by you.

52:48You may not remember this, but we actually put this to a community vote ages ago asking, do you guys want another black and orange hoodie like our previous WAN hoodies in the past? Or do you want us for once to make a WAN show garment that is actually in the correct color scheme for the WAN show? The WAN show has always been red. It was never actually orange. We just put LTT colors on the hoodie, despite it being Wanshow, which is a different color scheme. The community over... Okay, see, this is funny. This is funny. Breakdown 1923 says, that isn't red, though. Okay, here's the thing. Color is fun.

53:34Our perception of color is affected by all the other colors and stimuli around us to the point where this is really funny. Back before we had, you know, like real graphic design people and stuff, we used to have, I think the tech was red. Luke, is that right? Ooh, that sounds right. The point is, even though LTT actually has orange as its pop color, we had to make it red on here, if I recall correctly, because otherwise it didn't look orange. Orange looked yellow or something. There was a whole issue around it. I thought it was the logo that was off. It's been a long time since this was an issue, but the LTT colors on the forum had to be wrong in order for people to think that they were right.

54:28Yeah. because they looked and like this this this was not one or two people this was effectively everybody they looked super wrong just due to the other colors that were around them and we had to do something about it i think that might still be a thing i think the logo i wonder if you like um if you snipping tool the logo on the forum and go into like paint or something and eye dropper the color and then painted a bunch is it actually our orange i can't remember i'm sorry well you want to do it right now not really show your screen it's not that interesting sounds good but at some point it was like that where it was like it was like red um and then ed was working on uh some other asset and i was like whoa whoa whoa why is everything red and he's like oh i just eyedroppered like the forum banner header and that was when the investigation started and i was like what the heck is going on here because our accent color is orange anyway the eye is down in the corner right now like it's clearly red okay very funny dan put it back i'm trying to make it orange fine fine no fun allowed way to mess with everybody uh okay there's also a ton of other cool upgrades.

55:45Yes, there are slightly fewer pockets actually, but the pocket placement is much more intentional and streamlined. For example, instead of having two Kanga pockets and accidentally sticking your hand in the other one, we just made it one. And we changed how the zipper is embedded to reduce any chance of the adhesive pulling off. We also added a zippered chest pocket where you at there you are right there yeah zipper chest pocket we switched the sides of the arm pocket to make it easier to use for sorry right-handed people sorry lefties sorry the south south paws to make it easier on right-handed people who are the majority i'm sorry um and we made the back pocket back here even bigger we also changed up the fabric it's a heavier weight cotton terry feels more premium it's also a little bit warmer and we improved the hood it's now a three panel design that just sits a little bit better on your head we also made it a little bit more fun we made the draw cord tips hexagons because they're the best of guns and the eyelets are shaped like a best of gone as well and obviously it's red and gray voted by you we even did a newsletter blog post on it make sure you subscribe by the way to the ltt store newsletter yeah the old one really was quite uh quite orange oh oh this is like the og og one and then there was this one and then oh wait did i call it oh sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry so yeah reimagining the wan hoodie the original launched all the way back in 2016 and that was basically just because i had this nvidia hoodie that i really liked from g8 brands and i was like okay i just want that but like instead of black and green i just want it orange and uh then we did WAN hoodie V2, which was even cooler.

57:34Then, was this V3? That doesn't look... No, that's still V2. Right to me. Yeah, we only ever did... Yeah, here we go. And so this, finally, is V3. Man, it's a really nice garment. So there's the hexagonal draw cords. Here's the original poll. So we polled you guys. You decided you wanted accurate WAN show colors rather than OG WAN V1 with LTT orange accent. And look how good it looks! Ah! Yeah! Is that awesome or what? Yeah. Okay. What was I supposed to be doing? Oh yeah, let's go gambling. Right! So there's been some discussion that the promo that we're running right now is gambling. The promo that we are running right now is not gambling.

58:21The promo we're running right now is a sweepstakes and it's a perfectly normal thing for a retailer to do. It's also not a gambling disguise as sweepstakes. It's just actually a sweepstakes. As is required by law, it is open to people who do not place a purchase. Here's all the instructions and everything like that. But no, it's a sweepstakes. You make an order for the amount. You are entered to win a sweepstakes. And that's a perfectly reasonable thing. It's not gambling because what you're doing is you are buying a product. And you are going to get the product. There is no outcome. where you just lose all your money.

58:58It is not gambling. Y 'all need to relax. We are still anti-gambling. Hamnetics says, please make the mandatory sweepstakes skill testing question answer. Louvre. Question, what is the password? I love it. Okay, what was the rest of this merch message? Let's go gambling. As video content creators, How long did it take for y 'all to get used to your faces being on camera? And how did you figure out what to do with your face when you're not talking? My understanding is you mouth along with the prompter. Thank you for that, Dan. That's very helpful. I'm trying really hard not to do it. I couldn't imagine.

59:44It's difficult. Thanks for that. He just has to be the one talking. So even when he can't be the one talking, he tries to get as close as possible. It's in the wrong spot. You got to move it back. You got to move it back. Always on the wrong thing. There we go. Nice. Nice. Solid. Man, it took me a really long time. Like, I never really had to edit my own videos. So I didn't really get used to that. I never watched them because I, like, filmed them. And I didn't have time to do any kind of QA in the earlier days, which sometimes caused problems. as you guys probably well know. What? I think I've only really gotten used to it over the last few years when I've watched a lot more of our videos for QA.

1:00:37Beyond that, and even now, like WAN Show in particular, when Yvonne puts on WAN Show next to me, I'm like, bro, turn that off. Like, I can't listen to my voice for an extended period of time like that, especially at like 2X. Like, oh man, I don't know how she does it. And I'm like, I'm right here. If you want to talk to me, I'm right here. She's like, yeah, but I'm trying to catch up on what you were talking about before. I'm like, just ask me. I'll happily talk to you rather than listen to me talk to you. Please. How about you?

1:01:14Was the core of the question, what is it like seeing yourself on camera? I don't care. I don't get juiced up by it. It also doesn't affect me. Like I remember when I first started, I'm talking like whatever. I don't even know what year it was at this point. Whenever Linus and I first started working together, I remember him commenting that like hearing himself is very odd. I think I was editing a video and I had it on speakers or something. And he was like, oh, like listen with headphones. Like I don't want to hear myself. And I was like, what? Like why do you care? Like it never mattered to me at all.

1:01:46and then I was actually like somewhat surprised when later on I figured out that that's like a thing for a lot of people and I was the weird one yeah you're the freak got him I guess it just it has never bothered me it also like I don't know. It's just... He just likes the sound of his own voice. He just likes the sound of his own voice. No, no, it's in the wrong spot again. It just also doesn't bother me. I saw you reach for it. I saw you reach for it. Nice. I'm just going to leave that. We should get one for Dan. Nice assist. Because that was a nice assist. Dopamine.

1:02:35um all right what what are we supposed to be doing right now all right more topics yeah let's do some more topics what do you want what do you want to talk what do you want to talk about luke what we got going on over here i don't know it was a heck of a week for youtube we could talk about that youtube appeared to be ramping up its focus on paid memberships this week after several users on the ltd subreddit reported that they when they clicked on a video they were met with pop-up ads for the feature that had to be closed before playback could begin that's very annoying especially because we disabled it at significant cost to us oh this is interesting i'm so sorry i'm about to derail us look at that cool i'm so surprised i was i was i didn't think it would be a ton but i didn't think it would be zero disabling youtube memberships caused literally zero of our old members to migrate over to float plane and we we had a theory back when we back when we enabled youtube memberships in the first place it was our strong belief that it would probably be mostly incremental the people that were going to subscribe on float plane were we're going to do that and the people that were going to do it on youtube were only interested in using a payment method they already have with a platform they already use.

1:03:51And I wasn't surprised that we didn't just migrate everybody over from YouTube memberships to Flowplane. I was surprised that it appears to have been literally zero. So yeah, that was a downer. It had been communicated for a long time that the better experience was on Flowplane. The The advertising was pretty in your face about that. So I think most people that would have moved over had moved over. I mean, I had a conversation with some creators today talking about, they were asking the question of like, if we had an external platform, should we turn on YouTube monetization? And I lamented about how annoying it is having the YouTube, not YouTube monetization, sorry, YouTube memberships.

1:04:41I lamented a bit about how annoying it was to have the memberships thing shoved in your face all the time. But I was like, if you don't care about that, then theoretically, yes. Because there is a relatively large amount of people that just will not leave the primary platform. Whether that primary platform is YouTube or Twitch or Kik or whatever their thing is that they're watching content on. There will be nothing that will get them off of that platform. Most people that use the internet use like a very small amount of websites and do not go out of that circle. Yeah, you've talked about that before.

1:05:13It's kind of wild, but it's so true. Yeah. Like I, I mean, not going to lie, my Safari right now has, let's see, five tabs. And those five tabs are probably most of what I look at on a typical day. Yep. Got LTT store, LTT forum, LTT subreddit, LTT store analytics.

1:05:44And I'm tracking gold pricing. And even, and normally it would be down to four. Are you doing the tracking of gold pricing on, um, like a Google thing? Nope. Gold price.org. Okay. Yep. um hold on where where were we at oh yeah right so yeah so that and so for me it was just a little bit frustrating to have people upset at us again about this memberships thing when we actually took a very measurable financial hit to have youtube stop harassing our viewers about memberships so for them to have a bug that went and like like put ltt memberships in people's faces again when we already had turned them off and it wasn't even an option to subscribe to them really sucked it was like it was the insult to injury that i was not into not into it's kind of funny yeah i mean it's a little bit funny maybe you we have it's a little funny we had thousands of YouTube members.

1:06:57It was like tens of thousands of dollars of revenue a year, Luke. I don't think that part's funny. I just think it's funny that you... Right, well then tell me the funny part, Luke. I think it's funny that you turned it off and then it got shoved in your face anyways. I think that's funny. I can appreciate the irony, but that doesn't mean I have to agree that it's funny. I can appreciate an unpleasant irony. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe I'll laugh about it soon. Maybe I'll laugh about it once YouTube fixes the membership feature and makes it so I can control the promotion and we can turn it back on and we can build it back up.

1:07:30Maybe then I'll think it's funny. Do you think that's coming? I don't know. I look, if I thought that it was coming on it, on the near horizon, I wouldn't have turned it off. It's convincing people to resubscribe will take time. Oh dude, it'll take fricking forever. like that that's just yeah that's just like gone forever now so very frustrating um yeah amaria agreed it would be super how many other people turned it off i i know of like one other creator like it was was it just us and them and that's it yeah i think so because at a certain point like are we even helping i don't know luke sometimes it's not a matter of helping or not helping i think it's just principles well i don't even think i'm not even gonna i'm not even no i'm not even gonna say that this is like a principled stand or anything what it is is it's just simple our audience really didn't like it and at the end of the day i mean you've been there in the in the recent meetings that we've had sort of talking about our our company core values right and one of our core values is the audience is our guide.

1:08:44And so how do we, how do we live our core values? How do we say with a straight face that we live our core values? If we take a bunch of feedback that is showing up in our inboxes, it's showing up on the forum, it's showing up on the subreddit, it's showing up in the YouTube comments that people are saying, Hey, I really don't like the way this membership's feature is getting crammed down my throat. So how do we say that the audience is our guide if we ignore feedback like that we can't

1:09:13yeah and that ties into like uh one kind of ties into one of our one of our other ones uh listen before you lead is another one of i don't know if that's i don't know if that's entirely fair all the time though because if you blindly listen to the audience at every single point regardless of cost then you wouldn't have ads on anything but that's why it's because they love those that's why it's guide but yeah but that's what i'm saying is like it with with some users complaining that doesn't mean that you just have to do it well the but it wasn't just some users it was a lot and and i agreed that's that's that's a huge thing right there you go you gotta you gotta apply a filter i agree it's annoying and we had people to be clear i'm not i'm not talking about this specific case i'm not saying like we should turn it back on i'm just saying and i'm speaking generally we have to try to put ourselves sparked by this we've got to try to put ourselves in the position of a viewer and kind of go, okay, yeah, like, do I have any intention of subscribing to this?

1:10:09Okay, then why is it cluttering up my interface? It was really annoying for me. I'm a premium subscriber to YouTube. LTT, funny enough, gets a decent amount of money from me from my premium. It was everywhere. It was honestly very annoying. At the very least, like, let premium people be like, yo, I don't want to see this. Yeah, well, and that was part It's literally ads all over my screen when I pay to not see ads all over my screen. And that was part of the feedback I gave to YouTube as well as I don't think premium, I don't think premium members or not members, excuse me, premium subscribers should be seeing this.

1:10:49I don't, I don't think it's necessary. And, and at the very least, give me the creator control over that. Like if I want to spam people who have premium by telling them about, you know, YouTube memberships or whatever, then that's on me at that point then if I alienate the audience. But don't do that on my behalf. Then I have no control over you harassing the audience to buy something on my behalf. I don't like that. So, I mean, and we had an earlier version of our, what are they called again? Core pillars, core, the thing, the fan core values core values thank you thank you uh we had an earlier version of our core values that was the audience is the boss and we got some pushback internally when we did like focus groups and stuff and that was my that was my wording was the audience is the boss and i think i think where we got a bit of a disconnect internally between some people and sort of my interpretation of that is I always took my boss's instructions as sort of guidelines.

1:11:59I was not a very good employee in the sense that I just did exactly what I was told and followed orders. Like I always kind of, I've talked about the story of how we, you know, our NCIX Tech Tips started in the first place. It was only when he asked me the second or third time, I can't remember exactly how many times it was, but the first time he asked me to start a YouTube channel, I ignored him because a lot of the time he would give me waste of time busy work that wasn't necessary. And if I just didn't do it, and I did stuff that added more value to the company, then I'd get promotions faster and I'd get paid more.

1:12:34So I would just ignore stupid assignments. So it wasn't until he gave me this stupid assignment multiple times that I kind of went, okay, fine, I'll do it. But that was always my approach. So to me, audience as the boss meant that it gives me instructions and that I rely upon it for the gainful employment that I enjoy, but just because it tells me something doesn't mean that I absolutely do that. It means I have to apply a common sense filter. But I've always been a little stubborn, bullheaded, whatever. Let's not get into the words to describe blindness right now it's not necessary um sure and i can see how that word could be really intimidating or could could put other people in an uncomfortable place especially when the audience is this nebulous multi-faceted entity that out of one side of its mouth right because it's made up of many people can be telling you this is the greatest video i've ever seen and then out of the other side of its mouth at the exact same time.

1:13:42You'll have two comments, one after the other. This is the greatest thing I've ever seen. This is trash. You should probably retire, right? How do you deal with that? I can't believe new LTT is like this. They've lost the old ways. And then another comment saying, I've been waiting so long for an old video like this. Whatever. Yeah. And I think a great example of this is stuff like the Craigslist video wall, right? Or that$30 ,000 cooler that Charles Fugger brought up here. It's like, right back to back. It's very polarizing, right? You'll have people saying, like, this is classic LTT. I love it.

1:14:22They're goofing around with, like, cool stuff that nobody else would get a chance to get their hands on. And we can enjoy it vicariously through them. And then the next one will be, oh, look, Millionaire Line is showing off his rich kid toys again. Where's their more down-to-earth content? and it's like how do i how do i build a content plan around that right and so i can understand why internally people were looking at it going like okay boss feels like a really strong word and i wouldn't want a boss like that so after much deliberation we settled on guide you know more like a lighthouse it's it's a point that we can use for navigation but if we go right toward it, we're gonna end up in the rocks.

1:15:06You know what I mean?

1:15:10Enigma Blade says, I'm a lighthouse. Thank you, Enigma Blade and Flowplane Chat. Appreciate you.

1:15:22What are we supposed to be talking about right now? Oh, yeah, right. You were in the middle of, it's been a heck of a week for YouTube, and I totally went off on a long side quest. Yeah, I have no idea how far I got into it. I think one line. probably i'm just gonna redo it because i think that was genuinely like 20 minutes uh youtube appeared to be ramping up its focus on paid memberships this week after several users on the ltt subreddit reported that when they clicked a video they were met with pop-up ads for the feature that had to be closed before playback could begin which is like obviously incredibly annoying ltt writers reached out to youtube and they told us it was a bug which okay doesn't seem way too bad then, I guess.

1:16:03An annoying bug, but hopefully that doesn't keep going. YouTuber Enderman had his entire channel terminated after the platform mistakenly connected him to a different channel that had received three copyright strikes. Enderman appealed the account termination and it was obvious that no human had actually reviewed it, which led to him tweeting about it, garnering attention, and eventually getting the decision reversed. Ugh. YouTube took down multiple videos by YouTuber CyberCPU cyber CPU tech, sorry, that worked around Windows 11's installation restrictions. Initially, YouTube rejected his appeal, claiming his content was in violation of its harmful or dangerous content policy.

1:16:43Since garnering a bunch of attention, cyber CPU tech has had his videos restored, and YouTube denies that the removal had anything to do with automation. Hmm. Okay. So then did they explain why a human moderator removed it? Probably not. discussion question in an environment where ai is increasingly being used to moderate content how do you think lmg's videos may need to change well i can tell you already i don't go full karmageddon when i'm playing cyberpunk on camera yeah but that's more around their policies we talked about it last week but um sure if that was on the show yeah mass violence against civilians is no longer kosher in video games for YouTube uploads.

1:17:29So I'm just going to walk around pacifist style and only pull a gun on the cops if they pull a gun on me. That's my line. That's my line. In cyberpunk. In cyberpunk.

1:17:47This is really annoying. In Minecraft. okay we often very often luke and i will kind of go off on like microsoft teams being kind of a steaming pile of oh yeah and we will get people just all the time baffled and confused in the comments like how could you ever say anything negative about my weird purple baby and this is the kind of thing that i'm talking about okay so let's get on the on the thing the bug where Can you schedule a message and it shows up as sent? Don't worry. I'm coming to schedule messages. Okay. So on my teams right now, I have the one and only Sarah Butt. Okay. I wanted to send her a message.

1:18:30Hold on. Eh. I wanted to send her a message that says, Lighthouse Pin for audience is our guide. I really don't know how well this is going to work. Yeah, that's not, whatever. The point is, I wanted to send her a message. lighthouse pin audience is our guide i'm right clicking on send right because i would like to schedule the message because it's you know pretty late on a friday i don't think she's in the office right now and says you'll be able to schedule messages uh yes i've talked about this on my show before after you send your first message that's what this error says you can clearly see last week when i sent her sir ability or i asked for ability oh no because i emailed her sir ability Toucan and she teamsed me back SirAbilityToucan with his top hat and I was like OMG chat loves it we have clearly corresponded before so in conclusion Steams actually I like that can we switch to just calling it Steams?

1:19:38in conclusion Steams I think it's too close to Steam so people won't like it Oh, man. Irritating. Irritating. Steaming pile. So, yeah. So now, Luke, I'm going to send an email. And that will only make sense to the people who watched the pre-show. I don't like that. And I'm right to do it. In this case, you are, but it's so annoying. It's like, okay, so that it's funny that that bug exists because that shouldn't be a thing in the first place. You should absolutely be able to schedule messages to people in your own freaking org. In your org. Even if you haven't sent them a message before. We're talking within the same org.

1:20:30That's so crazy, man. Like, it's so stupid. So I have literally sent emails before screenshotting that error and being like, this is stupid, but I wanted to schedule this message. So here's the message. Don't respond to this email. I never want to see this email again. Respond on Teams, please. Just like, but come on. It's so annoying. Oh, man. Oh, lordy. All right. What are we supposed to be doing, Dan? I will also confirm, in the past, I think I said that people from Google told me that they use whatever it's even called. I don't know. Whatever their chat is. Hangouts? I'm not sure. Gmail chat?

1:21:21I don't know what it's called. Sure, whatever that thing is called. Chat? Sure, whatever. I've been told that they use that, and I just didn't believe it. because I know people at Microsoft that complain about Teams and kind of use Slack on the side anyways. Yeah. And I can confirm that at least everyone that I saw, which was multiple people, were using Meet or Chat or whatever the heck it's called. They were using it. So, all right. As of right now, sounds like they're actually doing it, which is interesting to me because it sure felt like they were abandoning it really not that long ago. But it is what it is.

1:22:11Depends on Teams. GitHub is still on Slack. Yeah, that's really interesting. I wonder if that's just because them migrating off of Slack, because that was an acquired company, right? So if migrating them off of Slack would be a huge issue. Something that I would really like to accomplish this coming year is to simplify our setup. Because right now we have Slack for Floatplane. We have Teams for everything else. And we have not just Teams, but we have Office 365. And we have G Suite for everybody. And it ends up being really expensive. Meet is so far behind Teams. What? I don't agree. Oh, sorry.

1:22:52Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. No, I do agree. I thought you were talking about just the call. Why are they both called meat? Just the video call of meat is like really good. I hate that it's the same name for the chat. Whatever. Anyway, sorry about that. But yeah, so we use just all of them internally. And I've been kind of poking around lately trying to figure out like how much of a pain it would be for different teams to lose one or the other. Like if we lost G Suite or if we lost Office 365. five because dude our subscriptions oh it's so expensive okay we're okay spoiler i'm gonna spoil something we're finally doing it we're finally working on how does lmg spend money because you guys have asked us that every time we do how does lmg make money you guys are like okay neat but we got where does it come from but we don't know where does it go um sorry that was really awful um how do you spend it and so it's finally coming we're going to do a breakdown and while the percentage going to subscriptions is probably not going to look that bad the the the total amount is high the sheer dollars yeah yes it's it's too much we gotta we We got to crunch that down.

1:24:16I feel a little bit vindicated about this. I think it's going to be harder to get off of G Suite than it will to get off of Office 365. Although part of that reasoning. So basically, there's just a few teams that I've talked to and they're like, dude, if I lose drive, my life is over. and I really don't think OneDrive and SharePoint, is that the whatever? I really don't think those are like a suitable replacement for Drive. I have to confess, I haven't played around with OneDrive that much recently, but the way that Drive's user interface has degraded over the years, maybe it's not that far off anymore.

1:25:00This is a huge part of my point, yeah. I mean, is it time for us to consider like, oh, what's so nuts? They always send me emails. One of my issues is there doesn't really seem like there's actually a whole solution for everything. Like I know, again, that company that asked about the passwords, I'm still not going to disclose who it was. I asked them what they use and they were like oh yeah I mean we use G Suite Slack and Office 365 and I was like oh okay it seems like we're not the only one stuck in this oh yeah Nextcloud, Nextcloud, that's the one thank you Monster and Floatplane Chat I mean is it time to explore that?

1:25:42you want to move email, company chat not really, no I don't want to no I don't want to it just looks like so much work Dude, migrating a G Suite drive to a G Suite drive is a nightmare. Let alone anywhere else. But then you run into other issues where like, you know, Nextcloud or G Suite or whatever, none of them are going to do this. Microsoft AD is just fantastic for a bunch of different things. And then to authenticate with that properly, Dan, you can correct me here. don't you need some license from Microsoft? Oh, you need so many licenses. Yeah. So like you just kind of get stuck with like everything.

1:26:31Yeah, and the alternative is you can cancel a subscription, but then you're like actually going to lower your productivity of all your users. And not just that, but you're going to lower their morale. Conrad's in the full plane chat right now saying, no, let me have my Google Drive. It's so painless. And you know what? I experienced the exact same thing at NCIX because we had our own internal email and then we switched to Gmail. And it was a time of gloriousness because that was back when Gmail was really good and the search was really good. And then we migrated back to our internal email with just like a reskin to make it look more like Gmail.

1:27:10And there were riots in the streets. And I was I was one of them. I was on the leadership team, but I had nothing to do with this decision. I was like, I freaking hate this. I am worth the$7 a month or whatever it was back then to have proper working email. The problem is it's not$7 a month anymore. Well, I know. And one thing that really, okay, so I had basically just resigned to like, I mean, okay, so Urban Fervor and Chad is saying, this is so ironic. Our company is in the middle of migrating from G Suite to Office 365 and it has not been going well. Some other people are posting similar things.

1:27:45Guys, Nextcloud, I actually think is super cool, but migrating to them is, it's not like, you know, the problem is migrating stuff is insane. And there are certain features that are difficult to replace once we're already in this spot. Anyways, I'm not, Nextcloud is great. I'm not talking bad against Nextcloud. But, yeah, we just get entrenched. There's too many things that are too good that they're worth paying for it anyways, even though we're not using most of their offerings. And I had previously resigned to like, whatever, it's worth it per employee. We're just not going to talk about this anymore.

1:28:22But it's so much now. And then G Suite, I had like fought with someone over there for a while being like, I do not want your AI features. I don't care how much you discount it. I like, I don't want this. We're not taking it. We're not paying for AI features. Go away. And I finally got through to them. So we didn't subscribe to their AI features. And then now you just have to. It's just bundled in. Have fun. And it's like, man, I don't want this. So then I was like, okay, well, now it's like really expensive per user. It would be really nice to lower this cost for the company. Let's evaluate it again.

1:29:07And we look into it and we just come back to the same conclusion again. It's almost like they're charging this much because they know they've got you by the nostrils. Yeah, sure. We'll go with that one. But it's frustrating, man. I wish Microsoft does everything, but they don't seem to do almost any of it all that well. Google doesn't do enough of things. And they do a few things like really well, and they do other things like really poorly. If we had just never migrated to Teams, I think we probably would have just still been using chat, and it probably would have been fine. Because the nice thing about it was you only had one search window.

1:29:53That's the killer for me, is that the more applications we use, the more search fields I have to type something into to figure out, yeah where did we talk about that was it on email was it posted on airtable was it posted in teams was it what are you freaking in a google doc like when you're searching for something like if i'm because like the way that my memory works a lot of the time it's like cues like i i don't remember what someone said in the email but i know we were talking about yetis you know or whatever so i'll be like okay yeah i remember i remember the word yeti was in there so i searched my email for like like Yeti, because I'm trying to remember, or like some product, you know, gigabyte motherboard.

1:30:37Like, ah, no, that's not there. Maybe it was in Teams. So I throw it into my Teams search. No, it wasn't there either. Like, okay, maybe it was on an Airtable card or something. So I searched for it on Airtable. It's like this tedious process of going and trying to find something. Because, you know, around here, we have 100 projects going at any given time. I can't be expected to remember everything about every single one of them from start to completion. So you waste these cycles going back and trying to re-reference materials. And if you don't know where to find them, it can be really frustrating.

1:31:08And back when we were on Hangouts and Gmail, there was one search bar. And it would search both of them at the same time. And it was really convenient. But the more services that we've integrated, and I understand there's reasons that we've done it. Like when we added Trello, for instance. The more places there have been to go find the single source of truth. and air table's been a help there but it's still not a perfect silver bullet because it is still separate no and we'll we'll keep making it better but it will still never be perfect yeah and none of these things will be perfect but i really don't like the fragmentation that we have i also really don't like that like no matter what we like say um these programs are very invasive so like even if we say like hey i know we have office 365 we don't use their email we don't use their calendar we don't use one drive we don't use all these things please keep it in google we can say that but if you work in word or whatever it's going to try to prompt you to save it into one drive and then people just start doing it automatically because they don't necessarily know the difference because they're they might not be tech savvy or whatever or that's just what they use in the previous company so they don't even think about it doesn't really register that they might be doing it the wrong way uh it's uh it's a mess man it's very frustrating hamnetics and floatplane chat says hey maybe check out x1 search it provides unified search across microsoft teams outlook sharepoint one drive gmail google drive and slack wow so cool why don't i get another goram subscription no i don't want that what is it called what is this x1.com That does legitimately sound very cool but like No

1:33:03Yeah

1:33:09Cool Hey Oh wait No never mind Is this per user? I couldn't tell I was afraid to I was afraid to even ask I don't want to know. I don't know if it is. And wouldn't they get access to literally all of your everything? I mean, it kind of seems that way. This thing's terrifying. They should pay us. That's actually how much they pay you per user. To be clear, you're not saying they're not trustworthy bros. No. We just don't know that they are. That's all. That's all we're saying. All we're saying.

1:33:47so yeah I don't know maybe just how about this everyone watching right now how many of you are there though probably somewhere in the neighborhood of around 10 ,000 okay everyone watching right now go buy a wan hoodie and then I won't have to think about the subscription costs ever again deal it won't matter deal nice yeah i just i wish i wish like it's it's a constant extremely sharp thorn in my side it bothers me all the time um um speaking of merch messages dan should we do a couple or what are we supposed to be doing oh my god we haven't done sponsor spots uh we're gonna do the float plane announce and then a sponsor spot uh sure uh oh uh oh that's the float plane topic not to be confused with the float plane announcements yes sammy i will read them before sponsors we've got three juicy and unique offerings for you on float plane we one we have an ltt video that is ready right now in early access the liquid metal in my laptop leaked and my mission is to try to fix it and you can check that out over on la float plane um it was a very frustrating experience oh i don't see it am i supposed to publish it or is what are you looking for i'm looking for is it under float plane exclusives for now no it's not uh okay i'm what are you looking for that video the i my laptop leaked liquid metal video oh i'm supposed to show it in the cms talk about the video if you want We also have auto captioning on float plane now, even for LTT videos.

1:35:30Okay. Yes. So I'm supposed to go into the CMS. Am I supposed to go into the CMS on camera? Nope. Are you sure? Cause Sammy told me to do it. He's going to do it. Luke, you've done it before. Uh, but the answer is still no. I'm not, I'm not saying what you're going to do. I'm just saying what you're supposed to do. I see. Got it. Okay. Release status public. There it is. Uh, Very much a downer and very much now live on Floatplane. There you have it. Cool, good chat. Number two, for Halloween, three staff members dressed up as yours truly, as you might have seen in last week's when intro and on our socials.

1:36:11Oh, we did a video of the entire process from makeup to clothing to my first reaction to it. Yeah, they completely blindsided me with this. Open link, show the stuff. Okay, yes sir, Sammy. I will follow instructions. There you go. This was...

1:36:32They really were trying to get me canceled, I think, with all of this. I think it was Sammy. He goes, so I'm Asian Linus. This is female Linus. What's this? Oh. I'm just like, buddy. Talented Linus. Yeah. Don't even. do why um i don't remember what i said but i'm pretty sure i'm not canceled um nice finally uh we're doing a luke lafreniere q a for a float plane exclusive and we want your questions i'm supposed to open the link and showcase some of the questions tell us the head dent story again i forgot it oh yeah i mean that's the thing about people with a dent in their head is they might forget the story too.

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1:40:13You know, I think there's a correlation to Intel's performance And them not doing extreme rig upgrade anymore You think so? Yeah, I think so You think not selling enough CPUs means you can't afford sponsorships? No, I mean the other way around Oh No, no, no, it was Intel bailed on it Why is this my point? Oh Oh, like they felt unworthy to have money spent on them? They were insecure? I don't know what you're talking about. No, that the ad worked so well that it was making up that much of their sales. Oh, for AMD. Or wait, because... Why? No, I get it.

1:40:59I might have said that horribly wrong. I don't know. But that was crazy. No, I think chat's with you. All right, okay. This is what happens when you flip your pillow the wrong way, Linus. What are you even talking about? I think it just means you got a bad sleep in your dark. Oh, dude. Viewers and listeners, this is not a bit. 100%. He's just like this. Thanks, Dan.

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1:42:57But hey, you can save a bunch if you pick up a few items. All right. All right, Dan. Dan. Luke. Which one? Pick one. Okay, I really... I don't know what's going on! Really have not slept well this week. I've been traveling a lot. I mean, I shouldn't be complaining to you, but... I think I can say that I've been traveling a lot. When traveling tend to be easier than yours. it has been a very very intense period i i i i can't tell you all of the videos that i have written in the last little while but in the last three weeks i think i've probably written more ltt's like start to finish written i am heavily involved in the editing of uh the scripts for a lot of stuff but start to finish written more ltt's in the last three weeks than i had probably done in the prior six to nine months combined like it's been very very intense i've been really enjoying it actually it's been fun especially because some of it's been really cool like some of these factory tours and stuff when i was overseas but it has been extremely intense because the rest of my work doesn't go away just because i'm writing um wish it did that'd be cool that's my biggest problem with traveling is effectively the same thing it's like i i think my tasks when i'm traveling tend to be easier than yours but i'm also stuck for many hours of the day like today i woke up at i think seven and didn't do anything other than work and you know it's eight 840 now um that's decently common on trips because if i wasn't here i would have been uh at the the thing that was the following to the event that i was just at um so i just i don't have time to do a lot of stuff but work keeps moving yeah so messages keep coming in so it's it's it's tough to keep up planes can be good but my my last tin can flight there was no in-flight Wi-Fi.

1:45:05So I literally, I finished reading Salt, Sugar, Fat, which was that book that Wendell recommended to me about, I think it's called Salt, Sugar, Fat, How the Food Industry Hooked Us or something like that. And it's really good. It's a little dry at times, but hey, maybe if they put a little more fat on it, then it would go down a little easier. So yeah, it's a little dry, but really enlightening, super cool book. So I finished that because I was just like sitting on the plane going like, oh my God, I have nothing to do and there's a computer under the seat in front of me. Like just, it wasn't a super long flight, but I was like, I am so bored.

1:45:40I no longer know how to just sit and be. Oh, right. I have salt, sugar, fat on my Kindle. I still have like a quarter of the book left. So I read 5 % of it and realized that the last 20 % of the book was actually, what's it called? Appendices. Yeah. So I finished the book in like 20 minutes and I was like, oh crap, I'm actually done now. And so I was sitting there, I was like, right.

1:46:11So I bought this and I actually hucked it in my backpack before my trip thinking, oh, yeah, maybe I'll read read something on paper. It's just for fun. The story of an accidental revolutionary. It's Linus Torvald's autobiography. And I wanted to read it as homework before we do the collab with him. And so I got through about a quarter of it on the rest of my flight. And then I actually realized today that we have a date for when he's going to be coming in. And I, I'm going to get this read. I am so flipping excited. And you're probably wondering, Hey Linus, you bought salt, sugar, fat on Kindle.

1:46:51Um, what's the deal with that? Why would you buy a physical book? Cause I'm going to get him to sign it. I'm so excited. Did you know I'm not there? uh yeah but we're not talking about the date okay i i did not know that until you told me that just now and i'm super sorry for you i'm actually legitimately like extremely sorry for you because dude i was so sad i i've legitimately kind of considered looking into like can i find a way to be there um i i can't give more context other than that because we're not given the date obviously but yeah i don't think i can but i am i am a sad boy this was like probably the one time but you know maybe it goes super well and we want to work together again i don't know we'll see um i'm sorry dude i'm i'm legitimately very sorry about that you just you just have to do a good enough job that it happens again i'll do my best nasa moda asks are you nervous linus i'm like yes i because because i've only met the guy briefly on on a call he was super nice um like unbelievably nice the fact that he's coming here blows my mind like it's one of those things where it's like it's um oh man how do i put this there's like there's kind of unspoken sort of not rules but just like unspoken understandings and collabs like like one party you know like like you could have one party that's like clearly benefiting the other party like you know lifting them up and then you have or you could have like a collaboration between peers or you could be the party that you know really probably needs to kind of put in the extra work like it's um like if i'm like if i was if i was collaborating with um you know let's let's use an example man How horrible is it that I'm trying to think of a non-controversial large YouTuber and I can't?

1:48:57What does that say about our space? Okay.

1:49:08PewDiePie hasn't done anything recently, all right? How about it?

1:49:19You're calling Statue of Limitations on the bridge?

1:49:30Okay, we've got some suggestions. We've got some suggestions. Markiplier is one suggestion. Hank Green. Markiplier's pretty base. Hank Green's pretty base. That's a pretty good suggestion. MatPat retired with nothing, right? Yeah, he retired. I think he retired. But his channels are still going. Okay, let's use MatPat. Let's use MatPat. The theorists are clean as far as my understanding. So MatPat, MatPat. And really cool people. MatPat or Hank Green invites me to do a collab. I am the sub in this relationship. I travel to them. I don't even ask, right? Standard. Like I don't ask, can you fly to me for us to do this collab?

1:50:09Now there could be a reason that they have to come here. Like if we're building a fancy PC and we're going to paint it and we need our workshop and stuff. There could be a reason for that. But if the idea is just that we're going to be talking heads and we're going to yik-yak at each other, I just assume that I'm going to them. And in the same way that a much smaller creator would probably assume that they're coming to me, with Linus, it was the same way. I assumed that I am packing up the show. I'm packing up all the parts. We're bringing it to, I don't know, his house. We find a studio space that we can rent.

1:50:44we are moving heaven and earth to make this thing happen because I am just grateful that he replied to a freaking email let alone that he has graciously offered us like half a day to a day of his time to to to collaborate together like it's so exciting and then he just casually drops oh no I think I could just come to you yeah you know I travel a lot for work and it's no biggie I can just hop up there and i'm like how can you be this cool it will like it it you almost like don't even want to accept it but it will be a lot easier to do a collab here i know i know but dude i had it's just so cool though remember that story i i'm gonna be vague only because uh i don't know if you you mentioned you might want to save it for content or something but remember that story i told you about fixing a computer recently one a computer that you knew about yeah oh yeah yeah yeah no you can just tell the story um we can still be content i don't know the the computer linus's team in scrapperware season four had a motherboard that they had to repair and they repaired it in like this really weird way but it worked and then afterwards i don't remember if it was given away to christmas party or i bought it or it was just effectively tossed out i don't remember what the situation was it might have just been tossed but i ended up with it and i gave it to my brother and it just kept working forever which is crazy despite the craziest fix ever it just kept working and then it got passed to a friend of ours and then it went from that friend of ours to to their kid and their kid bought a new case for it um which you know whatever maybe do a different performance upgrade on a 2500k but anyways that that's a topic for another time um and in the case swap they like removed the the wire that made the whole thing work and it's crazy that he reached out to me to try to potentially fix it because like no the amount of people that would wait oh yeah no sorry sorry yeah i thought you told the story differently to me but no that yeah i think that's right so he he didn't like know that this motherboard was like special he didn't know it came from me which really it came from you and really it was modded in in an episode of scrapping wars like he didn't know all of that uh so when he brought it over we were able to like look at the episode of scrapper wars and figure out what they did and then i i you know moved the little cable over and it started working which was fantastic um and and yeah that was um why does this story matter oh yeah i when when we went to go fix a computer i asked him to come to the office like we fix it at the office because i was thinking in my head i was like where am i gonna have the most like tools and potentially spare parts to like try if something is is wrong like oh okay maybe it's the gpu let's swap the gpu whatever like where is going to be most convenient to do this and it was like i don't know the it room at the office and then we went there and it was just perfect it was like yeah okay cool so it is you know way more convenient for him to come here everything is set up for what you guys are going to have to do it also means we don't have to worry about any privacy stuff like at his house the last thing i would want to do is like docks linus torvalds or do like crazy blurring which ends up making the video it's hard to watch or whatever else like yeah so it's it is sweet that he's coming over um it's just also surprising like you said it's a really long story for that but anyways i think it's cool i can't believe that computer still works it's crazy i still don't understand why it works i i want to do a collab with like buildzoid or something where yeah i want to fly with him anyways but yeah we're just like can you please enlighten my stupid monkey brain as to why plugging in this fan header makes this busted motherboard work so uh it's not just plugging the fan it's like bridging two different yeah so pancratz specific pin pancratz is in the flow plane chat saying because the part where we like fixed it is was cut from the episode by accident so the whole saga is something that nobody's ever actually seen but as part of the compilation of the fourth scrapyard wars uh pancratz has gone through the footage and he says it should be included in the compilation so the like no way dude because i knew it was on camera i knew it was shot but remember i didn't i didn't review the videos before i just like assumed the editors would get everything and that that's that's not always fair but it wasn't it wasn't in the video and so there was just this weird like bridged wire and we were like talking about it in the conclusion but yeah people never actually saw that wildness happen where i'm pretty sure there were like sparks like there was there was fire that motherboard was burned and then i i only know that portion from hearing it from you because i i didn't see it and we scrubbed the video to try to find the wire which we could do but it was hard to find like that point of the episode we struggled to kind of find it because it wasn't the footage isn't there yeah yeah it's uh what a thing so yeah i mean i'm stoked it exists and if we end up doing that that collab i'm sure i can get the computer back at least at least temporarily that'd be cool that'd be fun hey want some cool news yes spacex's cellular starlink now works on apple watches in canada and japan i just think that's cool that's all okay sweet yeah only text message sending and receiving via apple watch messages app is supported rogers in canada supporting it kddi in japan is supporting it on i think this is on three apple watch models um spacex's partner in the usa t-mobile could be next no confirmation at this time but i just think i think that's a super cool feature especially in an emergency or whatever else it's uh it's uh an i don't know i don't know if i want to say underrated feature of some of apple's hardware but having something like that on your watch seems even better than having it on your phone if you're ever in an emergency situation very cool so that was it that was all i had to say about that okay uh what else do we have oh should we talk about the stop killing games petition getting debated in uk parliament yeah the stop killing games campaign finally reached the floor of the uk parliament where members debated its petition urging publishers to stop rendering games unplayable when companies choose to shut down their servers.

1:57:36Notably, MP Mark Sewards contended that companies might already be violating consumer protection laws by failing to clearly disclose how long players will have access to a game. Nice. Sewards also got in a sick burn by mentioning that the dead game lawbreakers would probably have been popular amongst some of games. industry people helping thanks linus There was a sentence fragment there. The government's... Nobody understands what just happened other than you and me. The government's spokesperson restated that there are no current intentions to amend the law, but emphasized that businesses must provide consumers with adequate information about their products.

1:58:29There is still optimism for the EU branch of Stop Killing Games campaign, as it is in the process of preparing and waiting for EU politicians to debate its citizens initiative on the issue. This is pretty cool. I got to admit, I really didn't have a lot of hope for it, but I certainly have a lot of agreement with the premise of, hey, you know, when you buy something, you should, yeah. And if this happens for games, I really think at that point we're a stone's throw from software. and then we're a stone's throw from other media and so hardware exactly this whole trend of like you'll buy things and then you don't own them and someone can just shut them down it it needs to end and it's not going to end just by hoping that our corporate overlords are going to stop doing it it's only going to end if it's legislated so not a lot to add here Just wanted to let you guys know that all is not yet lost.

1:59:40Markticktep69 in floatplane chat says, Hey, have you seen the new Red Magic 11 with active water cooling? No, but I greenlit today doing a sponsored video on it. So I will see it. And I'm actually legitimately, sponsorship aside, full disclosure, but sponsorship aside, it looks pretty cool. Do you want a spoiler? Yes. It has a headphone jack. No. Oh. And no hole punch in the screen. I am actually considering it because... Are you holding it? Nope. Oh. Sony, no hole punch. Very, very uncommon. There's like no phones that are not doing the hole punch. Underscreen camera. Headphone jack. I'm thinking about it even though I don't gamer on the phone.

2:00:30What is this? Red Magic 11 Pro? Is that what you said? I think that's the one, yeah. No camera bump? Oh my god! I'm on wired headphones right now. They have not lost their place in my heart. I like wired headphones. I still really like wired headphones. I would love a phone. I've been planning on going Sony because Dan kind of talked me into it for the next generation that I go to. If I upgrade this one, you can have my old one and then you won't have to buy anything. Oh, that does itch my brain. so be careful i will see i've been pondering it i've been pondering it uh dude i've man the the whole hole punch thing like i kind of thought i was over it because i've been using the pixel 9a and i kind of mostly got over it but i've been on the iphone air more recently and um i uh i find oh dan i've talked to i've talked to you about this and luke i'm kind of doing a thing where i I'm like watching iconic movies.

2:01:28I'm finally making my way through my movie backlog. So I finally watched All the President's Men. Very different pacing compared to a more modern film. Have you seen it, Dan? I don't think so. Oh, okay. Very different pacing. It's from 1976 or something like that. It's, it's, it's, oh, it's. No, I have not. It's so good. It's on the Watergate scandal. Oh, very cool. The other thing that stood out to me is what qualified as shocking, scandalous behavior back then that could like undo a presidency man they ain't had seen nothing yet by that point anyway the point is not that the point is that with the bigger face id freaking camera bullet hole exit wound that apple has on their displays full screen content man it is still distracting and i've even been using a phone that has a hole punch for quite a while now like can we can we just not can we not get over this can we demand screens that don't have a flipping hole in them it's hard it's hard and for a while people were trying to solve it like we had ones that had little mechanical flip up rear cameras oneplus had that one that retracted into the body uh the underscreen ones were a thing for a while but that's what the red magic has right people use their selfie cameras so much that i also can like kind of understand but i mean sony just like because you've got the earpiece right at the top yeah right there's just a little tiny just a little tiny camera right there and it's fine i don't know what's with it i mean samsung did it on the note 9 dude if samsung released the galaxy note 9 evo i would be first in line to buy it headphone jack SD card, a SIM slot, eSIM, so that gets you your two SIMs, no hole punch, just like a skinny top bar, and like, man, that form factor was so sleek.

2:03:28I pick it up every once in a while because it's the phone that I use for Line Messenger because I just have never figured out how to migrate my Line Messenger messages, so it's just the phone that I take with me to Taipei every time I go for all my badminton friends, but so every once in a while I pick it up and I'm like, damn, it still feels so good in the hand because even though it's not as thin as like an iphone air it tapers at the edges so it like feels super thin freaking love it i just like this one because it's a big phone but it's a thin phone so it's like having a small phone but with more up and down which is really nice they are i don't know phones these days are just getting really wide dyslexic stoner says welcome back to another hour of three old men complaining about how good phones used to be but they did i had that sexy lg one with the power button right in the middle of the back i can't remember what that was called oh i remember that that was so good it was so good there was one it was a merch message earlier uh what phone would you keep in the samsung 8 edge i really liked for a very long time oh yeah i had superman rom on that that was sick den ricks and full plane shot said lgg2 lgg2 was dope samsung s3 was dope um the like original basically all of the nexus phones were sick i loved samsung's active lineup i was like the only person in the entire techosphere as far as i could tell who was like super into samsung's active phones they were a galaxy s whatever but just like gigantic chungus battery and like rugged awesome they were freaking awesome but not so thick like it was still thinner than having a case on your other phone but you just didn't need a case and you had a bigger battery i was like this is brilliant why doesn't everybody just buy this yeah yeah oh loved those

2:05:28um all right what are we what are we supposed to be talking about oh you want to do some more topics yeah we can do that uh there's no notes for this really but just wanted to let you guys know microsoft fixes the update and shutdown bug that has plagued windows for 10 years um there it goes so that's exciting it used to restart even though you told it update and shut down it would just restart and yeah yeah a decade but now now it's fixed i think it's coming in the next Windows update. Our discussion question... It is legitimately good. That is very annoying when it does that. Our discussion question is, what's the next Windows bug that you want fixed?

2:06:08I think most of it's not bugs. I think most of it is entirely intentional from their team and makes Windows incredibly insufferable to use. Okay, well, David had one. He says, I'm not sure if it's a bug, but it used to be like this in like XP or 7 or something. I don't remember, but right-clicking a folder or item in an Explorer window does not select the item, even if it's highlighted. So you have to left-click the item to select it and then right-click it to open properties, etc. If you right-click on another one that isn't selected, it deselects the first one and opens the menu for the folder.

2:06:38This behavior does not happen in the left-hand detail pane and works as expected. This kind of sounds like that issue that I have with macOS, where if something is not the focus window, I can't interact with it. I have to click twice. And it seems like David and I are the sorts of people that... That one was from me, actually. Oh, that one was from you. Yeah. Oh, it was his topic, so I assumed it was you. Okay, that's a Daniel Besser contribution. I assumed that he typoed his own initials there. My bad. Oh, good. No, David's a writer. He's perfect. Also, I just noticed that your initials are a sad face.

2:07:08It tracks? Oh, my goodness.

2:07:15All right. Microsoft says it doesn't have enough energy to power its current AI chips slash GPU stock. in an interview conducted alongside open ai's sam altman on the bg2 podcast microsoft ceo satan adela said the biggest issue the ai industry has is not having uh having is not a complete what okay is now having oh is the biggest issue the ai industry is now having is not a complete glut but it's power we may actually have a bunch of chips sitting in inventory that i can't plug in in fact that is my problem today it is not a supply issue of chips it is actually the fact that i don't have warm shells to plug into i love that we may have this issue in fact we do have this issue this comes after reports of consumer electricity bills increasing up to 36 percent in cost due to growing data center demands open ai is calling for the u.s government to build an additional 100 gigawatts of power generation annually and at least four big ai tech companies are considering building or funding their own nuclear power facilities yeah they're doing small ones though they're they're using uh oh man those little modular ones right yeah they're they're like inspired by submarine tech or something i don't and they just expire they just like expire when they're done right like you can't refuel them or something i i don't know enough details about it it was it's a while ago that i read about i think i probably read like the same article you did like a while back like they're in containers or something like that yeah so yeah you just bring them in you plunk them down and then they just they consume all the fuel and when they're done they're done they're kind of like the alkaline battery of a data center kind of thing um modular reactors and shipping containers says yakster um cat os is talking about molten salt oh dude did you see the chinese shipping uh container ship the kid the shipping container ship whatever container ship the chinese container ship that uses a molten salt nuclear reactor no yeah right dude my goodness damn china is that the new damn daniel uh damn china here we go that's good i think i first saw this again Again with the molten salt thorium reactors.

2:09:46Thorium reactors, dude. Maybe they're not thorium. Yeah, China unveils power of thorium reactor for world's largest cargo ship. Look at this thing. Look at how many shipping containers that is. I want a thorium reactor just like personally. Yeah. Yeah, they don't let you put an AC unit in your apartment. Maybe a thorium reactor. They might. They might not have rules against it. It's not in the rider. where does it say that I can't take thorium reactors in my back? Our discussion question. It doesn't have batteries.

2:10:27Our discussion question is how much compute do you guys think is currently sitting idle due to a lack of power? Okay, we have no way of knowing that because first there may be some sitting idle and then there definitely is. So we have, yeah, we're not going to get an answer on that. But our second question is, do you think the price of GPUs would go down if this idle inventory was available to consumers? Which I don't know the answer to either. But what I do know is that it's time for our weekly check to see if you can buy an ARC B580 for MSRP. One of these days, I am going to figure out our affiliate program for Newegg.

2:11:08I don't believe you. I will, I will, and we're going to make some money on this segment, but it doesn't matter, because the point for now is that, yes, in fact, you can. What does Black Friday price protection mean? This was$249 the last time we looked at it. Oh, but there's an Intel Holiday Bundle with purchase, limited offer. Hold on a second, what is it? Hopefully it's not 3D Mark. Holiday Bundle, Battlefield 6, wait, pick one of four games. Battlefield 6 Dying Like the Beast Assassin's Creed Shadows and Civ 7 That's fantastic You get one of those games With your qualifying purchase Plus And this is until January 31st Damn So you pick one of these Plus bonus content Marvel Rivals in-game content Who cares XSplit Premium Suite Okay that's kind of cool Canvid And Vegas Pro Edit 365 That's right my friends you can get all of this gpu and more for 249.99 if you were gonna buy one of those games it's basically 200 bucks or less do they still have that feature where i can where i can see how many people have it in their cart uh i think you have to go to your cart but yeah i think so i didn't have to do this before hold on cart my because i'm will oh 350 plus people have this in their cart right now yeah uh it's a great card for the price we absolutely love the arc b580 lmg.gg slash new egg oh okay it's that easy who posted yeah tim and chat tim and chat posted oh that's hilarious uh okay tim says linus won't read this but it's on the screen it's on the screen where is it i have no idea okay well whatever the point is i had a meeting with intel back at Computex, I broke their balls a little bit about what I felt was a really misleading aspect of their marketing, where they said that ARC B580 was the best GPU under$250 or$300 or whatever it was.

2:13:15And I was like, okay, show me one for under that price. And they couldn't. And it got a little tense. And I was like, I need a plan from you guys so that I stop being a liar every time that I talk about your MSRPs, because it's not okay. And you know what? They never really got back to me on the timeline that I asked for. But within a span of weeks, not months, Arc B580s were available for MSRP, which was all I wanted. And they have consistently been available for this price, to the point where guys, it's a great deal, it's a great card, it will slay 1080p, it's even quite .1440p capable and it's$250 US dollars.

2:13:56I freaking love this thing and I want them to sell lots of them and I don't, you can use the affiliate thing or you can just not. This is completely editorial. I want competition in the GPU space. I want to see a B770. It's still rumored. I don't know if it's real. I want ARK to succeed because I need competition in this space and Intel's architectural and software improvements are promising look at what they're doing on the msi claw ai 8x plus whatever whatever the stupid handheld is called look at the power look at the performance they're still driver bugs they still have work to do but the trajectory is so promising and i need lip boutan to not abandon this thing we got to show growth we got to show success for it because i want competition that's all i have to say about that and you you know he doesn't want to keep it around he doesn't want to keep anything around exactly i'm so upset that pat is never going to see the fruits of pat's plan for intel and that the stock just goes up because lbt just cuts jobs like i

2:15:10anyway uh what was i supposed to be talking about oh right yeah david asks oh my god back on the microsoft uh power power topic is the current level of investment into ai sustainable david knows that i don't think anyone really thinks that it's sustainable but hey are we in a bubble i don't know this isn't financial advice uh there was one other thing that i wanted to point out actually since we're on the subject of gpus though is that intel arc is not the only gpu that you can find these days for a pretty reasonable price uh hold on a second i thought was it uh was it 5070 ti's that were under msrp no that's at msrp was it 5070 let's see i thought there was one Nvidia card that was actually under MSRP on Newegg right now.

2:16:07No. Yeah. $20 rebate card. I don't know. Yeah. Is it mail-in? If it's a mail-in rebate, I don't know. Mail-in rebate does not count. Mail-in rebate does not count. I count it a little. I don't not count it. I only count it if it's decently substantial. 20 bucks would you you would send a letter for 20 20 bucks 20 bucks for sure yeah it was 20 bucks i just it is a not even sort of hidden secret at these retailers that you get a mail-in rebate that's low enough and then nobody does it so it's just not even a discount that you know that you know that i know you know that i don't think i have i don't think i have ever told this story on Wancho before, but back when I was the product manager for OCZ SSDs back at NCIX, they would often push me to take a bunch of inventory that I told them.

2:17:04I was like, you know that I can't move this with our run rate business. You guys are going to have to do promos to sell them. And they'd be like, no, no, it'll be fine. It'll be fine. Take all this inventory. And I'd be like, okay, tell you what, here's the deal. I'll take the inventory, but we're on net terms. We're on net 30 terms, but I literally am not going to, we could be at 31 days, 35 days, 300 days. I don't care. I'm not paying this bill until we've sold them. You can push me. You can dump all this inventory. You can stuff me is what the term would be. You can stuff me with inventory, but it's your problem.

2:17:34It's still your inventory as far as I'm concerned until it's sold. And so what would happen is we would get to the point where my terms are due and they would ask for payment. I'd be like, hey, so here's the email where I said, I'm not paying you for these unless you move them. Here's my inventory report that I sent you on a weekly basis that shows that I do, in fact, still have them. What are you going to do about it? And there was this one time, I think we ran a$100 mail-in rebate on an OCZ SSD. That's crazy. Because they had all the kind of the math that they could do on the back end for like what the redemption rates would be and, you know, whatever, right?

2:18:16to the fuzzy math that you can do with your instant rebates and your mail-in rebates. Anyway, we ran this promo. It was a big hit. And there was a time a little while later that they stuffed me again. And I was like, okay, this is your problem. Why don't we do another$100 mail-in rebate? And they go, oh, Linus, I really don't know if we can do that. I go, well, why not? I mean, you did it before, you know? And they're like, well, see, I might have gotten in a little bit of trouble because the redemption rate was almost 100%. i mean yeah the fact that it was only an almost is crazy to me um how do you just not mail a letter for a hundred dollars yeah buddy i would dude dude like i bought a uh i bought a ben q i'll always remember this i bought a ben q cd writer um at future shop on a boxing day promo because it was$25 with a $25 rebate.

2:19:11And I was like, buddy, it's for real estate. Yeah, it was a crazy deal. They had a whole pyramid of them, just like on a pallet. And I was like, I'll take one of those, sure. Did they max out how many you could buy? Yeah, one. One per customer. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. So that was a get you in the door thing. Oh yeah, 100%. I don't know what was in it for BenQ, but something in it for FutureShop for sure.

2:19:36AW11682 asks, how do mail in rebates actually work not a thing in the uk so what you do is you buy a product say for example this rog xbox ally x which by the way you could actually have a chance to win one if you make a purchase on ltt store we have the full details of our spend a hundred dollars plus for a chance to win the sennheiser headphones i'm wearing or the rog ally x etc etc etc on the store go check it out uh let's say you were to buy one of these okay you get a receipt right you get an invoice and you also get your product with the box. So what a lot of mail-in rebates would have you do is cut out a piece of the box, like something to show that you are redeeming it only once, some piece of the packaging.

2:20:17And then you would also include your receipt showing that you bought it from a qualifying reseller. And then you put those in an envelope with the mail-in rebate form that you filled out with your name, address, and where they can mail a check. You send it to the address of the company and they send you back a check that you then deposit into your bank account. And the idea behind it is that this rigmarole of filling out forms and cutting out pieces of boxes is a hassle that most people won't go through. So it allows the retailer and the seller of the goods or the manufacturer of the goods to advertise a very aggressive price knowing that the lazy people who don't bother are subsidizing the people who actually get it at that price.

2:21:06So if they're doing like$20 off, so instead of being$420, it's$399 after mail-in rebate. What that tells you is that what their margin would really support is a price of about$407 or$412. And they'll have their own internal data for what percentage of people are likely to redeem these mail-in rebates. at what sort of different rebate amounts and in different product segments, it might be different as well. And from different retailers, you can have a very different customer base with a very different appetite for deal hunting and coupon cutting. CatOS says, don't forget they expire. That's right.

2:21:51And you have to do it within a certain amount of time or the deal expires.

2:21:59Yeah, that's a mail-in rebate. There you go. And it turns out if you do a$100 one, pretty much everyone will redeem it.

2:22:10Amazon says no to AI shopping. This was put in the doc by Jordan. Amazon is suing perplexity AI, demanding that the startup stop letting its Comet browser make purchases on behalf of customers. Amazon says that Comet covertly accessed Amazon customer accounts and disguised automated activity as human browsing. Amazon says this poses a security risk and interferes with the shopping experience and has demanded that perplexity end its misconduct. Perplexity, oh man, that's a word I'm having trouble with today, has rejected Amazon's claims in the past, saying Amazon is using its market dominance to stifle competition.

2:22:53In a blog post titled, Bullying is Not Innovation, the startup calls Amazon's legal actions a threat to all internet users. Our discussion question is, should AI agents be able to use your accounts and impersonate you to complete a task on your behalf if you instruct them to? Or should retailers be able to insist on human interaction?

2:23:21he's thinking he's having a think retailers if it's the retailer should be able to effectively do whatever they want in this situation um i mean should they do it yeah they should be able to yeah i mean they tell us that they don't want us to scrape their pricing data and we would never do that no of course not right so do we really respect retailers wishes to have their site no but it's not about respecting wishes this is this is like the ad block argument right like they somebody can retaliate against you ad blocking that doesn't mean you can't ad block um it's it's the same type of thing like if if amazon decides oh we don't want these automated things we're going to try to stop them then i mean as far as my understanding goes they're completely within their right to do that um should they i don't necessarily think so i suspect i think it's a liability thing because uh because what's your thing that you always say uh machines can't be held accountable so if i said oh yeah no my i i told my ai not to then all of a sudden amazon's the one who's on the hook for either giving me a refund for this product or dealing with me sending it back to them or whatever like they're the ones that's what i would try to figure out.

2:24:38That's what I would try to figure out is I would, I would, I would maybe block it temporarily and come to an agreement with this group or whatever, uh, that they have to assume some level of liability. Um, but there's no way that they're going to do that because they're an AI company and you know how AI companies are around their own liability for fricking anything, whether it's people, you know, unaliving themselves or whether it's, uh, uh, I mean, that's the worst thing i could think of so there you go uh or you know okay training their training their models on stolen data like i they they're just they're trying to avoid any kind of responsibility at every turn as far as i can tell and that's across the board yeah max overdrive said but some people have assistance to shopping for them um sure what's the difference between that and ai uh because a human can be held accountable is yep that's it

2:25:36in other news that assistant would be the one held accountable servers in space this is another topic from jordan nvidia sent the h100 gpu into space on board the star cloud one satellite on sunday to test how data centers could work in orbit terrestrial data centers require massive amounts of electricity and water. And StarCloud 1 is the first step of a plan from Redmond, Washington-based startup StarCloud to move resource-hungry data-crunching infrastructure into space, hopefully to reduce the environmental impact. Ah, yes. Ah, yes. Let's fire off the rockets to reduce the environmental impact.

2:26:18Yes, and don't forget, Don't forget, clutter up low-Earth orbit. We need that. Ah, yes. Very, very good, yes. During the satellite's three-year mission, nvidia will be testing a range of ai use cases including analyzing images of the earth and running an llm by google not to be outdone google announced sun catcher aiming to use solar power to run super efficient ai infrastructure i mean cool the project plans to launch two prototype satellites by early 2027 this all comes after amazon founder jeff bezos predicted gigawatt scale data centers would be built in space within the next 10 to 20 years where the continuously available solar energy will see them eventually outperform terrestrial data centers bezos says space-based infrastructure is the next step of using space to improve life on earth you look so mad it's great in other space news spews semiconductor startup bexar has signed a launch agreement with spacex to integrate the company's experimental fab ship payloads into 12 upcoming launches.

2:27:24The fab ships will not enter orbit. They will remain attached to the booster and return to Earth within about 10 minutes of launch. During each mission, the fab ships will conduct tests to evaluate the feasibility of space-based chip fabrication. This stuff is crazy. Including whether semiconductor materials can withstand the journey to space and the subsequent re-entry. yeah that stuff's nuts but why though i don't remember is it to avoid like movement of the earth i i honestly i honestly don't remember i oh it's been so long since i've read about this but this is like a thing it's it's it's an oxygen free environment a lot of a lot of fabrication is done under vacuum that's something yeah but we can create cat os says i think it was to do with clean room but like yeah but there's so much radiation out there so you're gonna have what you're gonna have this like shielded orbiting fab thing how about when you need to perform maintenance on it like have we have we gone gravity that's it it's my it's microgravity oh it's not the vacuum uh it allows you to create perfect spheres more easily microgravity which makes a ton of sense

2:28:45long because i i'm remembering that's why they uh that's why they're doing drug research in space as well a lot of it's microgravity a lot of our research for like making things on earth always has to deal with gravity right so when you take gravity out of the equation some things change uh in some cases for the better when trying to make certain things got it long linus says companies will do anything to not bring tech uh bring chip production to the west literally put it in space dude imagine the cost imagine the cost imagine how many they're going to be able to make in the in that amount of time imagine the cost of each one of those chips oh man it would be cooler it would be cooler if it was like moon base or something uh yeah you're still gonna maybe maybe they're just doing research for now and then it becomes moon base or something later but yeah all right um we also have our we have a couple more topics that we have man we have merch message is still good lord uh and we've got a message from rove lab does your man cave look like it's stuck in prehistoric times are you looking to add a little more comfort to your gaming space?

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2:32:44Disclosure, invested in Eshtec. But that's fine. I will still take Ugreen's money because those NASs are actually kind of cool. Really good value. You know what else could be really good value, Linus? Oh my God. I thought he'd forget. you know i wouldn't buy like if if you and i sang another christmas album i don't think i'd buy that if riley sang a christmas album i would buy that i'd buy that for a dollar i'd buy that i'd buy that for more than a dollar okay i know the reference but i'd buy that for more than okay 13 dollars it's a digital product okay imagine imagine no shipping handling fees no it's not no shipping fees in general no it's not a digital product it's gonna have to be a vinyl wait you're in 2020 something we did it all right okay all right we remaster it um wait we remaster it or like we read no we read rerecord we do both we can have a no we can have a digital no no no no We could have a digital remaster release.

2:33:54No, no, no. We could have a digital remaster release. Not approved. You're about to can the whole thing. You're overplaying your hand, sir. Okay, okay. Nope. Luke, it's okay. We'll do it secretly. Nope. Nope. He just won't tell him. Nope. It'll be the B-side. No, that does not work, and that is not something we are expending resources on. You could Konami code on that page on the store. Nope. And it gives you the remaster. Absolutely not. we could do uh we could do a loot system where like uh we might send you the remastered vinyl instead of the new one you guys are gonna get this unapproved so fast no that's like you've already approved it of a reward i can unapprove things you did already approve it i cannot sign a check i can do that i do have that power i cannot sign the check you don't have to sign for direct deposit uh believe it or not i in principle have to sign in principle i have to approve it i have to there you and that's signed still not ltt christmas album vinyls so you heard it here first a certain amount so here's what we're going to do here's what we'll do all right we will we will take the original songs we will add some more because i think we should probably have some new songs there really weren't that many you mean you mean as they were written as they were written in terms of lyrics yeah yeah not not saying no heavens no no no none of that want the creative freedom to rewrite yeah i mean we could make some tweaks they weren't bad some of them were pretty bad um but but we might do a couple new we'll do a couple fresh tracks it won't be riley singing every time i think we could still have a couple people participate as long as they like are decent this time auto-tune has come a long way in the last 10 years okay in 2020 let's say let's say 2027 to give ourselves time 2027 lmg 27 we could do it next year easily we don't need to wait till 2027 i'm not even like trying to be annoying about this i am not trying to over promise if we can do 2027 2026 it's it's a year we can make it out i promise you riley can make an album a year from now no no it's not that that's not what i'm concerned about i'm concerned about like we've got to figure out packaging we've got to figure out how to ship like a vinyl we've never done it before and is it easy maybe but we've never done it before we've got to figure out a partner to actually get them pressed like i i don't want to i don't want to put that team in a position where they're like holy crap why did linus promise to do this next year this sucks we don't have enough time like we might have to ship by sea we might have to ship by sea from wherever they're being manufactured i don't know i can't promise what i don't know what i can say is 2027 is probably almost certainly doable.

2:36:33Okay, that gives us time. Can we say that we might do 2026, but we're just not going to commit to it at this time? I would love if we could do 2026. We will commit to it at the latest Christmas 2027. We will hopefully commit to 2027. I can't promise anything for sure. I like not committing to anything. I'm cool with that. Yeah, okay. All right, so Riley, we will... I mean, I haven't spoken with Riley about this. I'm sure he'd be he's gonna have to want to if he doesn't want to that is totally fair then that's fine so so so Riley slash and people who can actually sing LMG Christmas album um Christmas 2027 let's do it but there will be no we will not speak of the original Christmas album being remastered or being re-released in any form if people really want it and they don't it's still on the forum you can technically buy it every year yeah i need i need to be very clear about this we have sold thousands of them and it literally sells every single year and they literally shouldn't for a decade and it literally shouldn't it does it shouldn't exist but you can't you can't say they don't want it when they are actively continually i can say forgive them lord they know not what they do that's what i can say is not right in matters of taste they just yes i think we've all met a tasteless customer

2:38:07if you guys hold on just 30 seconds for what somebody's typing back to my message on teams You gotta be kidding me right now. Okay, AMD. AMD clarifies. Riley Murdoch, 923 p.m., November 7th, 2025. I mean, you know I do. I am so happy. This is great. This is all I wanted for Christmas.

2:38:38This is fantastic. In all capitals. With what time, though? Question mark, question mark. well we'll figure that out we've got time we've got time yeah we've got time we'll figure that out the main thing that's important to me is that it's going to happen eventually if he needs till 2027 sure okay so i think it'll be i think it'll be a uh a combination release i think we'll have to do a vinyl uh we should probably do a cd and then for people who are not into owning physical media we could probably do a digital one we gotta do it just conrad says digital delivery is native supported on Shopify.

2:39:15Okay. Yeah, and we've got to do a digital version. Thank you, Conrad. I just mean, I think the... We should have a vinyl for sure as well. Absolutely. And some people are super into CD at this point. Like, CD's trendy again, dude. I don't know how it happened, but it's trendy again. Where if you buy the CD or vinyl version, you just get the digital download for free in addition? Yeah, maybe. I'm pretty sure there's a way you can do that. Yeah, there's got to be a way to do that. I don't want to promise anything right now because I have no idea, but there should be no reason why we couldn't build a mechanism for that.

2:39:45You could mail in code it. Yeah. Mini disk. No, we're not doing a mini disk. You could also do something where the digital download is like a, like a super cheap add on or something like that. You could be like for an extra five bucks or whatever. Because I don't, I don't know exactly how Shopify handles that. And so we'll figure it out. But like, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Eight track. Cause I could totally see wanting the vinyl version. like i will buy the vinyl version just to be clear um but then i would also want the digital versions and so we'll have to do dude i promise you the internal people using their merch budget on this is going to be extremely high dude bridget is gonna she's gonna lose her shit because i actually had a conversation with her earlier this week where i was like you know that design would actually look pretty cool on like an ugly christmas sweater and she's like is this approval to do a christmas sweater and i was like whoa hold on but if we had a christmas sweater as a time it would it would have to be a line dude if you really oh my god oh my god matching christmas pajamas and a matching christmas sweater and a matching christmas album you do know that's gonna push it to 2027 though right oh by all of it i would be okay with that all right oh man all right we'll Gives it more time to be mastered.

2:41:02My goodness. All right. All right. I'm so excited. All right. All right. Christmas onesie. Oh. Man, now you've got the whole company all, like, excited about this. Jeez. Because it's exciting. We got to just do things sometimes, man. It's fun. It's a lot of work, Luke. That's sometimes fun is work. Oh, man. Work is fun. Whatever. Yeah. I think you meant the second one there. You know we're going to sell a few hundred of them, right? No, we won't. No, we won't. We will sell. I promise you we will say way more than that. I guarantee you. I have no idea how many vinyls to press. I have no clue. I have no idea.

2:41:47This could totally be a pre-order thing, right? What you could probably do is put the digital one up for sale and then put the vinyl one up for pre-sale. it's like it's like a weird it's like a weird like man ah i don't know buy vinyls of albums they have listened to like that is totally a thing that's you can put the digital one up for sale and then the vinyl for pre-sale i can pretty much guarantee you can do that and then you won't have to um massively over order it we don't do pre-orders yeah but i think it's okay if the The digital one is up for sale first because then you can get reviews of it.

2:42:25And you would know if you like the music. So we don't do pre-orders because we don't want to be stuck in a position where we don't have a firm timeline on something. And we are going to be just like holding your money indefinitely. That's one of the reasons. Yeah. And we don't do pre-orders because we don't want to set a bad example for the industry where there's like questionable quality potentially. and we're taking your money up front without you having an opportunity to find out if it's any good. So there are certain things that we would have no problem taking a pre-order on. I would have no problem taking a pre-order on a mouse pad with a new graphic, for instance, because it's our same proven high-quality mouse pad, but just with a graphic, with a supplier that we've worked with umpteen bazillion times in the past, and we have a firm idea of what the ETA is going to be.

2:43:15But what I don't want to take a pre-order on is something like, say, for example, a mod mat, where something unexpected might happen and we might not be able to deliver it in the time that we wanted to. So that's why we don't do pre-orders because not taking pre-orders is the right thing for reasons. Not because pre-orders are just blanket wrong and should never be done but because there are reasons that maybe they shouldn't be done and we want to put our money where our mouth is. All right. AMD has clarified its clarifications on their controversial rdna 1 and 2 driver note they will continue game optimization after all they will continue to receive new game support stability and game optimization security and bug fixes the other branch for newer cards is to allow amd's engineers to move faster and integrate new features at a faster pace i still don't really understand what that means no this is further clarification of the clarification but here is a clarification i am feeling of the clarification I would like to clarify that I am feeling a lack of gas, and so I need your help.

2:44:20Usually he's extremely gaseous. We are attempting to get the environmental chamber that we bought recently at auction up and running. However, we have discovered that the gases we need are extremely expensive. if anybody has the following gases or a connection to getting them locally here in Vancouver or like, like West coast, Canada, um, or cheap, please reach out to us via, uh, Reddit or the forum. Uh, yeah, just, yeah, public post is probably fine and we can DM you if you seem credible. We need 15 pounds, four ounces of our form. 404A, and we need 10 pounds of R508B. If you have a lead on any of these gases, if you have some cylinders of them kicking around somewhere that you weren't going to do anything with, A, wow, good for you, because that's a lot of money worth of gases.

2:45:21You must be very rich to have gases like that sitting around, not doing anything and not sell them. But B, thank you so much for maybe giving us a deal because it is going to be extremely expensive for us to get this thing. Is it expensive to the point where we like might just abandon it if we potentially like what's the yeah okay potentially we're gonna do our best so that was 15 pounds four ounces of our 404 a and 10 pounds of our 508 b even if we do get all the gases there could still be significant challenges in getting it running. Apparently it is so loud that anybody in the, if we, if we were not to enclose it, anybody working in the lab would have to wear hearing protection at all times.

2:46:09So there are, there are challenges, but basically we would like to at least get to the point of part two where we get the thing running. And I'm pretty bullish on that. We actually managed to find the person, the technician who decommissioned it. And what he told us is that when he decommissioned it, it was in great shape and working great. So that gives us a ton of hope. Okay. So that's where we're at. I just thought we were collecting extremely large rooms that we don't use in labs like Pokemon or something. The diff says, quiet you, would Northern Washington be okay? Maybe. I actually just don't know what the complications of getting it over the border would be.

2:46:53It's possible. If the deal's right, then we would try to figure it out because we really want to try. Even if it doesn't end up being part of our setup overall, we want to at least get this thing working for the lulls. So we need to get our hands on these gases.

2:47:11Can you take it in checked baggage? That's an earlier in the show reference. It's not an electronic. All right, Dan, let's do some merch messages, shall we? We're going into After Dark then. Good lordy, there's a few merch messages today. Okay. It's been busy. I wonder why. Oh, yeah. I meant to have a look at what you guys were into today. The answer is...

2:47:39Holy balls. Okay. What is it? What is the answer? You have a combination of things going on. You have the sweepstakes thing and you have the discount thing. Oh, no. I just mean product-wise. People are super into the new WAN hoodie. so this this is good because um i had a long conversation or i've had many long conversations with the merch team because they're like okay what is our direction for when stuff is it orange is it red i'm like look i want to see this launch we did a poll but there's a big difference between what people respond to a poll to or what people say in a poll response versus what they actually buy right firefox for instance um so i need to see this red one actually sell i need to see people resonate with red and the LTT brand as opposed to orange.

2:48:23And when that happens, then we can make a decision. We can chart a path forward in terms of like how our color branding works. So yeah, WAN hoodie is doing pretty good. You guys are super into it. Apparently transparent screwdrivers. I had someone internally very recently express concern over our ability to move as many of the WAN hoodie as we ordered. And I had a quick chuckle and was like, they'll get them. Oh yeah. It'll be, it'll be all right. Yeah, everything's going to be okay. You know, I think, you know what? I mean, that wouldn't be the first person to kind of bring up concerns and stress, you know, around work over the last couple of years.

2:48:59Which is good. We want to hear those things, right? We want to get a chance to address those things for anyone on staff who is watching right now, right? Like it needs to be a conversation. But we're okay. You know, we've definitely had some struggles. I mean, we've talked openly about viewership not being where I want it right now on LTT. I mean, we're having a lot of conversations of future. And I think this, we've talked about it a lot, where there's that 100 employee threshold that's really, really hard to cross. And I feel like what's going on right now is we've been sitting on the threshold long enough that, in my opinion at least, I can see the way off, if that makes sense.

2:49:45And certainly feeling like the path forward is logical. It's been painful to sit here for this long, but this is realistically relatively normal for companies that get to about this size. And I'm pretty excited about I don't know if we want to talk about them yet, but I'm pretty excited about some of the plans that we have for like, honestly, pretty much every part of the company. And they all rhyme, which I think is really cool. like almost every department is taking a similarly inspired step forward does that make sense can i say that i didn't really leak any plans i don't know as far as i'm concerned you can just say it i don't care nope okay i don't want i don't want to i don't want a team's message on monday of like why did i learn about this stuff on land show we'll talk about it internally we literally We literally have a section in the Monday morning email that includes stuff that was leaked on Wancho.

2:50:46Yeah, but we'll wait. That doesn't mean we should use it. Tynan says probably the right call in the chat. But is it the fun call, Tynan? No, it's not. But you guys will just have to wait. All right. But yeah, I'm feeling pretty good about stuff. Absolutely not the fun call. yeah see right okay want to hit me with a merch message dan sure sure we got a bunch here and linus it isn't actually no hold on okay one more thing i wanted to say is that even though yeah viewership hasn't been where i really want it to be um what has been really cool for me to see over the last little while is that sentiment around the content that we've been uploading has been really positive.

2:51:32With I think one exception out of the last like few weeks, the like ratio has been way higher than what has historically been our average. And when I say way higher, I mean like anywhere from 0.5 to a percent higher because we're realistically in a pretty narrow band. But that historically has indicated like banger video that people are really engaging with and really loving um another thing that's been really cool is like the support that we're getting from our audience on places like float plane has been amazing like we've been hovering around 40 000 float plane subscribers for quite a while now like we're basically you know back to where we were near our peak we're a few thousand short but like wow peak was also juiced up from the hack and stuff like that when you look into statistical averages of um like other platforms where you can see some of the numbers of of conversion between subscribers or average viewership and amount of people subscribe to an external funding platform like you guys have come out to support us in a pretty big way and you've done it through the store too like we know that times are not amazing in a lot of industries and we wouldn't we would never ask you guys to spend money you don't have that we don't want um but if you do have it you know the way that you guys have supported us through the store has been absolutely incredible um so yeah i just wanted to just wanted to thank you guys um thank you merge message oh yeah right and the last bit was like because of your support we we are going to be okay like everything's fine we to this day have never had to conduct layoffs.

2:53:19And, you know, knock on wood, I hope that that wouldn't happen. And it's all because of you guys. Thank you.

2:53:31All right. At Linus, it isn't fair to expect employees to have founder passion. What's your number one advice for a one-man business on hiring and more importantly, trusting their very first employee? Oh, man. no pressure listening closely i don't i was about to say i don't know because make them live in the office i don't think i think that luke would agree very strongly with the statement that i didn't handle it perfectly so oh sure it's hard for me to it's hard for me to credibly give advice i can tell you some of the things that I feel I did well. A high degree of transparency is really important because that's going to help you achieve alignment and help you guys work together on hopefully adding more employees.

2:54:27I think that working alongside and leading by example is incredibly important.

2:54:37Man, this would tie very well into, you know, something that wasn't done, that some steps are being made to rectify, but that we aren't ready to talk about yet, and is kind of pending a conversation between the two of us. But maybe Luke could give some of his thoughts on whatever it is he wants to say about this, because realistically, he's gone through this as the number one, well, number two, technically, if we count Yvonne, but, which I do, but sorry, Luke. But, you know, that still makes Luke, you know, the number two man. right? Like he's the guy. He was the first one that actually, I think your employee number is technically one, isn't it?

2:55:16I think it depends on where you look on the healthcare plan. It's one on the, cause I think I wanted a meme one. I wanted 69 or something. Yeah. I think we both asked for that or it was leet. It was one, it was one or the other, but you'd like litter legitimately technically asked first. Um, I don't remember which I, that, that ha I don't remember the story, but I remember we asked for the same thing and some, I don't know. Um, and Yvonne was like, this is awkward.

2:55:48Yeah. Anyways. So like what, what, what would be your advice for a one man business on hiring and more importantly, creating a relationship that is trusting with their first employee. Now you're on the spot. Boom. No, I sort of did this. I sort of did this because of AJ, right? Oh, that's true. I wanted to hear the other perspective, though. He's going to dodge. He dodged it. He fucking dodged it. You got to remember, dude. Fucking Neo here. Dodging bullets.

2:56:26Oh, that was crazy. This guy.

2:56:32Oh, that was funny. It's the hard R incident all over again.

2:56:38I don't know. Opposite. I'll try to give both. So I'll undodge. I'll jump back in front of it. I, in, and I don't think this is too much of a secret, in many ways, I preferred. And in many ways, I think what we're doing now is super cool. But my brain operates more properly in a very small business mindset approach, etc.

2:57:11Panic survival mode is Luke's mode. I love that. Actually, though, like it fuels me in a lot of ways. And things being like, yeah, I don't know. So like I liked it back then. I liked the way we worked together. No, I don't think everything was handled perfectly. But if you think you're going to handle everything perfectly with your first person, like you're actually nuts. You're realistically not going to handle everything perfectly with anyone. So like you're going to have to deal with that eventually. Oh, yeah. And I think it's just it's often not making the mistake. It's how you deal with it after the fact.

2:57:50um like i i would like to yeah i have multiple examples of that right like not necessarily handing handling something super well and then i i would like to hope to think that i did relatively well after that point in trying to fix the problem uh and i can think of recent ones and i and i fully expect if i keep managing people moving forward that that will keep happening moving forward it's just part of it um so i wouldn't worry too much about about screwing up with them just because it's going to happen obviously try not to do it but but focus more on just being good to them and when you make mistakes just correct it and like linus said be be transparent and be honest and when you screw up just tell them and never Never underestimate the power of a genuine apology.

2:58:46And when I say apology, I don't mean words. I mean, I mean, talking through what you were thinking, even if what you were thinking is is embarrassing and and and something that makes you question if you are actually that good of a person. because you know if you're thinking it they're thinking it so you got to get it out there in the open you got to say okay well like here's what i was thinking and here's why i did what i did and i'm sorry and the behavior will change and then it has to actually like change you have to actually do something um yeah uh in regards to oh sorry no no i'm done yeah go ahead i was gonna to say in regards to the hiring of that person um that's tough i i i kind of had an easy out with with aj because he just kind of like volunteered yeah and then volunteered and then we started paying him hey this is working out so i i kind of skipped that part but i would be pretty careful about it and at the same time i don't know if i would worry too much because this is like the one time ever that you're going to be incredibly close and we'll see everything that they're doing so if it's not working out you could end it relatively quickly and that aspect is going to get more difficult over time oh yeah and there's a certain thing with hiring where like it's very easy to put on a face for an hour for an interview.

3:00:19I have witnessed it myself where someone is just very different once they're actually on the job site or even remotely. I've experienced that as well. People will often say things about how like a lot of my interview questions are like, how will you handle like this scenario? And they say the things that you want to hear and then you see in that scenario and they do the complete opposite, you're going to run into situations where people just weren't what you thought they were. So try, obviously, try to hire the right person. Try to ask some good questions. Try to make sure that you're sussing them out as best you possibly can.

3:00:58But understand that it might just not work. And if it doesn't work, that you just need to move on. And especially at that point in your company, probably quickly. so to what to the to to what luke was saying about um this is someone that you're going to work with like side by side day to day a lot um you know for me um i think a lot of founders would say like don't befriend your employees you know draw a kind of a hard line there um and there's definitely times when you know trying to be friends not because you know you want to uh not because there's like an agenda, but because you just work side by side every day and you like, you know, hired people that you like and stuff, you know, has has backfired many, many, many times for me, sometimes in private, sometimes in public, like it's, it can get really messy.

3:01:56um but like i don't have any regrets as far as first employee goes yet knock on wood um and and so you know it was really important to find someone that i really wanted to work with every day and and that's something that i would say whether you you know take the whether you allow yourself to be friends or whether you you know maintain boundaries or whatever it is that your kind of approach to the relationship is, I would say that it's got to be someone that you want to get up and spend the day with. You will spend more of your high quality, mentally functioning hours with this person for at least some period of time than probably your spouse.

3:02:38Yeah. Right. So it's like actually very important. People, I think, especially when they're first starting hiring people really underestimate culture fit and how incredibly important that is and that is still a thing when there's two of you it's just like it's it's actually so important um you hear about this stuff like i remember being a kid hearing people talking about like oh like it it shouldn't matter who you know it shouldn't matter how i act i'm the best on the job. I remember hearing that mentality and be like, oh man, okay, cool. I just need to get like really good at stuff and then nothing else matters.

3:03:17And it's like, no, that's not how groups of people work. You, you ideally are really good at stuff, but you also need to not be completely insufferable to be around because if you are, nothing's really going to get done properly. No one's going to want to talk to you. Therefore, collaboration is going to be a problem. There's going to be adversarial relationships are going to be created. It's, it's like, it's actually incredibly not okay for them to be just toxic and impossible to work with. So don't hire just on skill either. You need to be able to get along with this person. No, you do not need to be best friends.

3:03:53You need to be able to get along and be happy to work with them, which is a very different thing. Sometimes they're related, but they are very different things. Yeah. Man, I don't know why I looked at YouTube chat, but I did. We've got buddy here, new world disorder. Coworkers are not friends. They are coworkers. Share no personal info. Just talk about weather. And I was like, man, you got it. Someone hurt you, you know? And then their immediate next messages. I've worked with thousands of people over 35 years. Personal info will get used against you at some point. People talk when you aren't around, no matter how cool you think you are.

3:04:30New world disorder, there's some truth there, but it is also possible that people, like you didn't seem super warm and fuzzy in your first message. Is it possible that... you're the common denominator here. I'm just, I'm throwing it out there. I'm just throwing it out there. Just throwing it out there. And you know what though? You know what though? There is, there is some truth there. Like even non, even not coworkers, like even like industry acquaintances, I have had information that I have shared with people that I considered to be at least like sort of friends, like industry friends. I've had it used against me in public to damage me.

3:05:20It has happened multiple times. And I don't know, man. I don't think I can find myself at that point where I just go, okay, well, then I'm just not going to share any personal information with anybody. I'll just talk about the weather. I don't think I can do that. I don't think I'd be happy like that. And if it works for you, then it works for you. But I think I'd rather get hurt again. Yeah, I'm generally a pretty open book, I think, for better or for worse. And it's come back to hurt me too. But I think there are benefits to being that way, right? You do not build trust with people by not giving trust.

3:06:03There has to be a little bit back and forth. And I've appreciated when people that I work with are able to be open with me about things that might be going on with them that can help me accommodate them best I can to make sure that they're able to do like fully corporate company hat on. This allows me to make sure that they're able to do the best job that they can. and if this is like a very talented person who's in a rut it's pretty valuable to the company if we can wait the rut out and be a good place for them to be when they come back and then also personally it just I feel like it's good for my soul so like company hat off so I don't know I try to find as many things that satisfy company hat on and company hat off at the same time as possible It's not always possible, but you try to do it as much as you can.

3:06:59All right. My last YouTube message for the day from YouTube chat. Dale Earnhardt Seatbelt says, LMAO, out of the thousands of coworkers, I've never been the issue. But what about that time you worked with Dale Earnhardt?

3:07:17Sorry. That doesn't get a ding, Dan? Fine. Fine. Fine. I've got to wash my hand now. Oh, man. All right. Anyway, Dan, hit me with another. Sure. Good evening, gentlemen. Thank you for the quality merch. Out of curiosity, if you could host WAN show from any location, where would you want to host it from? Right here. It is so much easier when we're just both in studio. It is. It is. every time that I'm out on a Friday, I actually get really annoyed because it's just like, yeah, it sucks. Global WAN is like far superior. But since you want an answer that's more fun than that, from low Earth orbit on a spacecraft, I think if we were in space together, that would be the most fire WAN show of all time.

3:08:17I completely agree. my i will to to be less cool and interesting than that my my favorite location wan show that we've done i feel like it's probably the japan one that was the one that i was gonna say if i had to pick a favorite one i had actually i had opened up a youtube window so that i could search for wan japan and then i came up with the better i came up with the better answer that's hilarious we're completely aligned on this love it it was so good i don't remember what the title was or anything to try to find it but we were in the kimonos and everything here it is

3:08:54look at this look how much fun these guys are having and ed was passed out drunk behind the camera it was great didn't he finish setting it up and then just fall over basically yeah he fell asleep on the stairs oh it was so good we forgot we had to do it and then we were both like wicked tired and it's it's probably the most tired we both were on one WAN show together. Yeah. The collective tiredness factor was pretty high. Yeah. That was incredible. Awesome. Hello, WAN.dll. Hello back. In much of my engineering work, flight test, there's a lot of working through good and sometimes weird tech requirements.

3:09:37What's one of the weirdest requirements you've had to work with? You added the word tech. I did. Which ruined my answer. I'm so sorry. i don't know where that came from actually probably the test above it because it's split on my monitor most of the weird requirements that i usually have to work with are people imposed not not tech imposed sorry sorry and i would say that the most frustrating ones usually come down to people not understanding the video production workflow like i remember this one amd launch event. I think it was the 580. Was it the 580 or the 480? It was a Polaris based card. Maybe it was the 480.

3:10:20And I remember they had us all in the briefing room, huge, like there's probably like 80 to 100 tech reviewers and journalists and analysts and stuff in this room. And they go through this slideshow. And after it's done, I go, hey, I need the slides. And they go, well, we can only send you a watermarked version of the slides. And I go, okay, that doesn't work for me because the embargo lift is in 10 hours or whatever at 8am in the morning. And I have to now write and do video guidance and wait for my editor. And then I have to review this video for accuracy because it's the same day release. And then we have to encode it and then we have to upload it and then I have to merge it.

3:11:04And that is not a lot of time. So what I really need is I I need the slides without watermarks right now so that we can not just dick around and we can just edit the freaking video. And they go, well, you can't have them because we're worried about leaks. And I go, brother, people had their cameras out in the presentation. It's literally already leaked. If you guys care that much, why don't you deal with the people, go triangulate who the f*** was sitting there and go deal with them. Which you can do. I don't leak. So why is this my problem? Those are the kinds of issues where it's just like, dude, help me help you.

3:11:40Does it make any of us look good if our slides have ugly watermark Linus tech tips all over them? Do you look good? Do I look good? Do we look competent? Then, okay, what's the point of an NDA? I sign the NDA. You give me the information. I do my job, right? Help me do my job. And so you just, I had to make it. I think I, I can't remember if it was director level or VP level that I had to go to, to get my slides. Like, and it's just stuff like that, right? Where you just have to kind of go like, like another, another really funny one is like, you'll go into a really secure facility. You'll go into like a, like a high privacy environment.

3:12:19I'm not going to name it because I don't feel like dealing with that. But you'll have some piece of equipment, like some scientific piece of equipment that's like, yeah, well you can't shoot the, like the logo, you know? and it's like buddy anyone who works in this industry knows what it is from looking at everything but the logo so what are you even talking about yeah right like you're obscuring the brand of what it is and it's like yeah but i can shoot the entire thing i just have to blur the brand on it who are you trying to hide this from who are you concealing it from the people who are like building a you know this high-tech facility like you are they know what it is from looking at it because there's only so many vendors that make i don't know let's throw something out scanning electron microscopes right like how many people make those okay so they know what it is and then everyone else you're just withholding information and you're blurring up my video frame so what was the point of this it's all theater right so those are those are probably the most my favorite one was challenging a brand that didn't let us document uh one of the one of the machines exactly what you're describing um except later on we looked up the youtube channel for the company that made the machine and there was a video on that channel of them delivering the machine to the company that we were at and it shows the whole thing the logos the model name everything's on there and they're delivering it to like it's it's just it's it's the most out there thing you could possibly imagine we did a tour at one point where there was this bizarre requirement that cost us probably at least half an hour to 45 minutes of just dicking around where they didn't want us to show the ceiling of the space we couldn't show the ceiling immediately on getting home we went to their site and there's just imagery all over their site that shows the ceiling of the space it's just like buddy of course of course like i just can't the problem is that it's a lot of work to say yes because and it's a lot of risk because you're personally responsible for saying yes people don't want responsibility and accountability and i've talked about this extensively in the past it's safe to say no but people who say no are not doers of things they don't accomplish anything they're obstructions they say they're people who, by the very definition of their nature, by saying no, they don't get things done.

3:14:54Whereas, you know, I keep telling people, whether it's my kids or people on the team here, you got to live life by improv rules, which means you can't say no. You can say yes and. You have to find a path forward. You have to find a way to incorporate someone else's idea, someone else's concept. you have to find a way to add to it rather than just block it it's not i mean it's not and every time you say this i like sort of agree and then also totally don't um i think i think in in like almost every scenario it's viable but if you if you push it to its extremes it's like anything pushed to the there's obviously wrong it's yeah yes but but just i think it's more looking at the overall pattern of behavior.

3:15:42Are you a no person or are you a yes and person? Are you an enthusiastic co-contributor or are you an obstruction? And sometimes you have to be an obstruction for the good of the organization, for the good of yourself, for the good of the person pitching the idea. Maybe they'd look terrible, you know, and you got to save them, right? Hey, I should jump off this bridge. Like, no, not yes and. Actually, yeah, yes and do it with a parachute. Yes and wear a parachute, except you're untrained and don't know what you're doing and you're jumping by yourself. Okay, fine. Yes, and do it at a bungee jumping place.

3:16:14Like, if you want the thrill of jumping off a bridge, let's do it. Let's do it in a safe way. A bungee jumping place doesn't service this bridge. Well, apply for a permit with the city and, you know, like, hey, where there's a will, there's a way. I mean, what, what, what? To Tom Cruise climb the Burj Khalifa? I mean, come on. You just gotta be Tom Cruise. So dedicate the next couple decades of your life to becoming a movie star. and being able to run very iconically I'm just saying, you know, be a problem solver in general in general

3:16:47join Scientology no no get a center tooth say yes and to that, Linus how about that? where is your yes and? infiltrate them from the inside boom, got them! Yes! And? And that's it. The mission accomplished. It was an impossible mission, but you did it. Congrats. Up next. Come on, I don't get anything for that. Fine. Thank you. I proposed to my girlfriend last week. She said yes. Yay! And I got laid off a few days later. Oh, s***. I should have read this. There was literally a end. And then I found a new job in a few days. Yay! And now my old company wants me back. No, f*** them. Have you ever had a similar rollercoaster of emotions?

3:17:41I guess besides just now. Oh, yeah, definitely. The whole, are we getting the channel, are we not getting the channel in the early days of LMG? I'm not going to tell this story again because we've told it pretty recently, but yes, I have experienced that level of emotional rollercoaster.

3:17:59Hey, LTT. Mic on here. Your mic. Damn. Hey, LTT. Long time watcher. first time writer love the always on time wanshow and the vids out of curiosity how are linus's braces going he said he chose those ones because they'd be off quicker um let me put it this way when the brand found out that i was using them they reached out about potentially collaborating i sent them back a bunch of my feedback on the braces and i haven't heard from them since i'm not surprised so that's where we're at um i am happy with the progress of my teeth moving however i am not thrilled with the kind of micro abrasive surface of these ceramic brackets and if anyone had told me that they sit prouder off the tooth than a traditional metal bracket i would have gone for Invisalign or traditional train tracks.

3:19:01I would not have chosen these. They have caused significant internal damage to my mouth, and it's very difficult for it to heal because they are so sharp. Like, it's not like it rubs, it's like it slices. It's unreal, especially the hook ones that are for like the the elastics that go here and here um i have to get this uh i have to get this like semi-permanent wax coating that they cure with a uv light on basically from behind the canines all the way up on the top and bottom um in order for them to not just shred the insides of my mouth and that's even after multiple times shredding and scar tissue and shredding and scar tissue like i i had braces when i was younger and my ortho did say that part of it is just being older now and not healing as fast but i had train tracks when i was younger and there's no way that they were this sharp they just weren't these are they're super sharp

3:20:07hey lld linus out of all the projects you've subjected your home to over the years which ones had the most unforeseen consequences light switches my wife hates them so much like i could have said the pool water cooling loop but i foresaw that that could leak whereas the light switches and my whole family being irritated with me i i thought they were going to be a boon i i think we're working with in a valley to do better ones soon yeah stay tuned hello l to the l to the d yeah i know you know me linus who is your favorite bob's burger character and why is it mr fish odor oh it's definitely not mr fish odor i i like i like i like calvin fish odor but um favorite oh my god i mean i think louise is probably my my adhd spirit animal if I had to pick a Bob's Burger favorite character.

3:21:06She's, yeah, she's amazing. I finally built my first PC, 9070XT with a 9070X. Whilst installing the NHD15, I slightly gouged the cold plate. Is this likely to affect cooling or is there any way to test whether this is affecting my cooling? It is very unlikely to affect cooling. The only time I would think it would be a concern is if you gouged it enough that a bit of the metal has peeled up and it's holding it away from the CPU. That's the only way that I'd really be concerned. A little scratch in the bottom of your heatsink. The whole mirror finish thing is mostly for show. It's mostly about overall flatness of the mating surfaces.

3:21:53Will the backpack magnetic chest strap return? I wanted to get another one for my commuter bag. P.S. I'm looking forward to the reading. I'm looking forward to reading the ABCs of gaming to my daughter when she is born. Congratulations. I actually have no idea if the backpack magnetic chest strap is returning. Dan, is this one that we could maybe just forward to the CW team? Let me. And we could get them an answer that way. They didn't put their email in there. So I will do that manually. By starting a group chat and then scheduling a message. Oh, no, wait.

3:22:35um okay i'll just leave that one for there for now um let's see love the show with you discussing your recent flight i was wondering is there any new plane or airliner tech that you find interesting oh man that new supersonic oh so cool it like doesn't have happening it doesn't have sonic booms yeah no it's like happening they're like doing test flights and stuff, I thought.

3:23:02New Supersonic. Who makes it? Is it, what's the nuts? The one that's been struggling, Boeing? New Supersonic passenger jet. No, it wasn't them, was it? The boom overture. Yeah, who makes this thing? I can't remember, but 60 to 80 passengers at speeds of Mach 1.7 over water and Mach 1.3 over land to minimize sonic booms. is that is that right does that sound right you guys yeah if it ever makes it crazy dude right it looks like a dart it's so cool look at it go

3:23:45so that's super cool um oh what's so nuts is it the 777x that has the like way better cabin pressure so it's supposed to end and better humidity so it has higher humidity and more cabin pressure so it's supposed to significantly reduce uh jet lag because part of jet lag is that you're in this like slightly deoxygenated environment with thinner air for an extended period of time and also there's like no moisture in it because of the air recycling something something etc because they're bringing in that that super high up air and then they're mixing it with the i read an article about how the internal um cabin pressure and uh climate control works and then i've kind of forgotten half of it so take all this for the sort of ignorant rambling that it is but um yeah the 777x seems super cool if they ever managed to freaking deliver any of them um good luck with that boeing what else is really cool oh the new global is amazing global 8 000 i think it is seriously this thing is wild 8 000 nautical miles mock 0.95 and look at it bombardier bombardier bombardier this one's automatically cooler i mean look how cool this guy riding in it is i think his trust fund is pretty cool yeah uh i don't know this might be out of trust fund kitty uh price point range luke um yeah this is like birthday present money this is no no no this is this is i i invested very well and made a lot of money i'm i'm a startup founder for sure if i uh if i have one of these this is i found my bitcoin hard drive yeah yeah there that's the one that's the dan found his bitcoin hard drive sorry down i think this one's uh 60 60 mil or so i i forget what a global 8 000 is worth starting price lots of cool stuff happening in aviation right now oh oh okay ai overview says uh the starting price is approximately 78 million overview i thought you don't read those uh i do if it's the only option a lot of the time you like it's not like bombardier puts a freaking MSRP on their site.

3:26:09So you just have to kind of hope that someone was talking about it somewhere. Wikipedia has 71 million in 2014. Wait, that doesn't make any sense. The 8000 is new. Oh yeah. You're going to trust that AI overview? You know what? Who's Luna Jets? Who are you? Yeah, whatever. Okay, so these guys are what, like a charter something? Control F dollar sign. It is expected to enter service in 2025 and comes with a list price of$78 million. Okay, that seems... These guys seem maybe somewhat credible. I don't know, though. That's all I got. I've never actually contacted Bombardier. Yet. What I have done is wear this.

3:26:51That was interesting today. Wow, the heck was that? I walked through that shoot. I just don't ask questions anymore. One of the new writers. One of the new writers. That's what we call... He's got some ideas. That's what we call company perks. All right, up next. Linus has no reaction. Hey, Limes, Lonk, and Don. I've been hearing a little about GPMI cable that's being developed in China to replace the USB-C standard. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance. I thought it was a display cable. HDMI replacement. I had a Google about this earlier. HDMI display port and USB-C replacement. So cool. It sounds super cool.

3:27:37Yeah, this is, I'm pretty sure we actually talked about this on LAN like quite a while ago. Yeah, we did. So there's type B with the proprietary connector, 480 watts, 192 gigabit per second. And then there's the one that uses the USB-C connector, but USB has so much inertia. Like I just, I don't, I don't, I don't see it.

3:28:03Chinese over 50 Chinese member companies including Huawei Skyworth Hisense and TCL like okay but you are actually going to need companies outside of China to sign on to this thing if you want it to be a global standard and man it would suck if Chinese tech had its own like standard for how things plug in that just like didn't work anywhere else in the world that would be a downer like how could i buy my giant tcl tv from china for like nine thousand dollars less than the one that i would have to buy in north america if it used a different display interface luke and think of think of the spoiled overgrown children won't somebody please think of them

3:28:52a bombardier is um how are the other colors of cargo pants coming along i don't know were you even doing that picture of that dude that uh died his i did that was so cool really good yeah it looked awesome hold on

3:29:20Here it is I used Rit dye Yeah Damn Those actually look really sharp Looking fly buddy So there you go The progress is do it yourself What are you lazy No we're working on navy blue I just don't know when it's coming I would have to check the dock

3:29:49feel free to do other things while i do that sure uh did i have one in here for luke no well i mean luke could answer this hi lld would you ever want to voice act in anything a new game dispatch as many prominent youtubers like charlie moist critical what would your dream rollby i'd be so down i've actually said this before i would love to um i don't think i have a great voice for it personally but i would love to do it oh better than mine i don't know um you could be one of those like sidekicks like you could do a claptrap or something

3:30:32why are you mean what did i do to you today i think that's actually just a fireball offense to say that. That's so mean. You might as well call me Jar Jar. I was gonna say there's characters that have playable rice. You didn't write them. It's not your fault.

3:30:53Yeah, I would love to. I don't know what kind of... I don't know. Probably something angry. I have no idea. Down for whatever, though. Would be great. I hope it happens someday. I've thought about trying to do like an audio book at some time. I thought that'd be kind of neat. Film too. Multiple times. I have thought that I was, it was going to happen even going as far as shooting apart. But it's never happened. I don't even need to be paid. It would just be kind of fun to be like the, you know, the like tech guy who, you know, goes to try to fix your computer and is like, sorry, it's busted, you know, whatever.

3:31:34Like, or I don't even have to say the line. I don't even have to say the line I could be standing behind the counter in a geek squad alike and you could hand me your laptop and I would just turn around and take it into the back or something I'd be so down for a bit part People are suggesting that I do this I don't know why You should consider an audiobook version of the ABCs of gaming Oh, that's kind of cool It hasn't really sold that well though especially recently I don't know if enough people care It'd be cool though be kind of neat oh yeah here we go uh cargo pants two new colors um q126 that's the plan but nothing's a guarantee when it's like four months away hey when i deal well how's the tactics run going just wrapped up my 100 achievement run and loved every second of it.

3:32:30Nice. I'm on tactician and I'm stuck on the fight with what's his nuts with the stupid ice gun that is the second before the last. And I think that I'm feeling pretty down about it because I screwed up and I got a couple of my flame shields broken. And so my plan was to use my calculator to just cast fire on everyone and use that to heal up my side and then also nuke the other side and just kind of cheese it that way but because i lost like two of my flame shields in one of the previous encounters i don't have enough of them for the rest of my squad so i've played a couple times and gotten my butt absolutely handed to me because on tactician every opponent gets super juiced up hp and damage and i get nerfed damage and so all these like stupid dragons just rip through me like basically everyone's a one hit sometimes like one hit on multiple of my guys and then jackass with the stupid ice gun just disables my guys and does whatever he wants from across the map so i just i don't think i'm equipped properly which means i have to go back like two fights i have to lose two fights where two or three fights worth of progress and then like go back to the shop and grind some stuff and then go back so i'm i'm a little stuck right now but maybe i can find a way to cheese it i'm not sure love the look of the new hoodie anno 117 what's your thoughts watched much content about it i'm really looking forward to it i haven't i haven't played the demo i haven't watched much content.

3:34:15I'll play it when it comes out, but I've been playing Final Fantasy Tactics recently. Beep bop boop! Aside from CPUs and headphones coming soon, what other labs categories might be coming eventually? And will labs do articles slash testing for certain items outside of these categories regularly?

3:34:37We already do labs articles outside of those categories, and we will doing labs articles specifically within the categories that we support is not a goal of labs articles at all um it's it's also not a goal to not do articles about categories that we do support we just do articles when we think it makes sense to do articles um if we're inspired to ask a question or if something is particularly interesting we'll make an article for it that's it um in regards to future verticals beyond the ones i've already said are coming i don't really want to commit to those because plans could change we'll try not to over promise and under deliver on labs yeah yeah again um but yeah yeah sorry i know that's somewhat of a non-answer i am very excited about this stuff and there's been some really really cool progress made i just really don't want to over promise we've been burned pretty hard by overextending on labs and our goal is to stay the course, stick to the original vision, which is to have data-backed, very entertaining tech content across many channels.

3:35:48That is still the direction for the company. But we're just going to have to, you know, instead of doing it out in public where, you know, our our attack surfaces are larger, we're just kind of doing it a little more quietly. hey lld using that discounted gift card now instead of saving it thoughts on youtube making greater than two times playback speed a premium only feature seems kind of silly to me but maybe it's a bandwidth thing i think it's more that it's a thing that most people don't need um and so if you're one of those special snowflakes that needs this like super super super fast playback speed, then from their perspective, it's like, okay, well then you can just pay for premium is what I would, is what I would guess.

3:36:38It's the kind of thing that most people would not be up in arms over them paywalling. So therefore there's, they have the flexibility to do it, whether that's, you know, a right kind of logic, you know, I don't know that, that I leave open for debate, but it's clear that there won't be an overwhelming amount of public pressure on them to make this a free feature so they don't have to would be my guess yeah um i don't think that it's for bandwidth reasons my reason for that is because if you watch a video faster and you're like min maxing things like that you're probably a youtube enjoyer and if you're a youtube enjoyer and you watch a video faster you're probably going to watch another video faster and the more videos you watch the more ads you're served and realistically as much is our audience is extremely high population ad block users um during the ad block fiasco there was a lot of channels that didn't look like they got affected almost at all um and i think that's probably most of youtube to be honest got a me got a bonus at work oh yeah sorry got a bonus at work and am treating myself to some ltt merch and a new gaming rig nice early on what was a treat yourself moment as a parent i tend to spend more on the kids when i have extra cash uh my oh man probably my most exciting and fulfilling treat myself when i was a very early in my parenting days was an nvidia shield portable which originally was just called which back when i back in those days was just called nvidia a shield uh let me see if i can bring up some images of it um here linus boom nope not tablet nope not that what is this okay hold on

3:38:43okay you know what hold on one second i was uh i was at wait yeah we can say where we were in california right luke the one we went to together yeah there's gonna be a video hopefully um i was at nvidia recently and i think it was you i pointed it out to the shipping label on something that was addressed to e-n-v-i-d-i-a i thought it was i-n was it okay it was something it had a letter before the n and i just yeah yeah i thought that was cute um anywho nvidia project shield man look at baby linus 12 years ago look at this thing this thing is so cool android handheld uh this was the first time we saw um in-home game streaming using the encoder on your your gaming systems gpu to play games at 720p on your little handheld android device and i played all of the tomb raider reboot like the first game on that handheld all of it i never got to touch my desktop because i was always dealing with the kids or holding a kid or doing something to do with the kid or work because i had a young company too and um finding ways to still be able to enjoy the hobbies that you used to have when you have kids is okay did i really spend it on myself yes sort of but also only because of the kids otherwise i could have just sat at my computer so that was a treat yourself and then i also treated myself to a really nice pair of headphones that i'm actually still using today back in the early days of having kids my sennheiser hd 600s although dms tells me that sennheiser has made a candidate for me to replace them with i haven't tried them yet do you have those yet no i don't my goodness man i think i tried them can't remember i heard they're great looking forward to it price to performance It's obscene.

3:40:40Cool. Hello, when dot D L L. So the same. Linus, when your sleep schedule is as bad as it's been this week, how do you recenter and get back on track? Asking for me and my very stressed brain. You just don't have the luxury of not being on track. and i know that's kind of a bullshit answer that you don't really want to hear but it's kind of the same like i i don't know i had this conversation very recently at a at an on-site event and um i didn't shake hands with anybody i just like fist bumped and um they were just like yeah i don't know i just yeah i prefer the elbow bump or the fist bump too but i just always feel pressured to shake hands and i'm just like yeah well there is no getting pressured to shake hands i can't afford to be sick.

3:41:35Like I don't have time to be sick. I don't have time to have my brain not centered. Um, so what I, what I do when I'm crossing like large time zone differences is I will, I'll manage my sleep so that I do an extremely long day so that when I get to where I am, I am wiped at bedtime. And then, um, you set an alarm, you don't have a choice. You have to get up in the morning. You make sure you spend time outside. Exercise is really good. And that's it. There just isn't another option. And I'm sorry, that's the best answer I have, because it's not fun. I don't want to do it. But for so many years, like, if I'm sick, or I'm out of commission, like even men, when I came back from Asia just now, I technically had like two days booked off but like i ended up working a lot of them because i just don't really have that luxury so i still timed my sleep so that i would be up during the day the very next day yeah pc master rays says please cover this more there's no more that i can really say about it but other than yeah you just gotta you gotta be motivated how about you luke what was the core question again oh shoot Dan archived it how do you get your brain realigned after having bad sleeps basically oh

3:43:13he wants tips for his very stressed brain makes Luke laugh harder

3:43:22it's just like I don't know. I don't think I like almost ever have a sleep schedule that's like even sort of reasonable. So it's just sort of a constant state. I try to do the best I can. It feels like every time that I'm on a really good streak, I just get destroyed by something that there was like no way I could foresee and no way I could avoid other than just deeply shirking responsibilities, which I'm not going to do. Yeah, he'd never sleep past like a flight departure time or anything. It's been a long time. That's true. It's actually been a long time. It's actually true. I don't know what was going on back then, man.

3:44:06I would sleep through so many alarms. It's not really, it is a problem still, but it's very, very rare. And it used to be like horrible. Yeah, I don't know. You just kind of get through it. Obviously, you'll be rough that day.

3:44:24try to not let it chain. The biggest thing for me is don't let it happen two days in a row. Don't have a really bad sleep two days in a row because I can often tank one day of it, but the second it chains, even once it's like a huge problem. Yeah, I don't know. And understand that you are operating almost certainly at effectively a lower IQ when you're like significantly lacking. Oh yeah. dude I mean they see it on WAN show once in a while with both of us we get like actually kind of dumb yep and that's like just obviously not a good thing in any scenario so like try to avoid it it's a problem for me I don't know I think we should huff more paint and lower our IQs I don't know I think I've talked to you about this but I genuinely think that kind of dumber people seem happier in general oh no that's a proven like they just seem like they don't have the burden of understanding what's going on and uh it seems like it's just kind of easier for them to just chill and be kind of happy yeah i'm happy for them but not really because i understand what's going on

3:45:45uh all right what's next hi lld what dodd you think about the android xr and great video with luke and the vision pro i don't know man it feels like samsung just will desperately clone anything that apple makes no matter how stupid it is like the vision pro was such a such a colossal commercial failure that i'm surprised they even bothered to bring the android xr to to market but um yeah good luck with that dear lld oh wait wait wait no hold on i thought this was the galaxy s xr hold on hold on android xr you mean the operating system for for it yeah i think it was separate from the vr thing oh sorry okay as for android xr i don't i've never tried it I've never actually tried it.

3:46:38I just thought it was really funny that Apple made a product that nobody really wants. And then immediately Samsung had to make one. It just, some things never change. The more they change, the more they stay the same. I also want to say, I did see the comments on my video and I appreciate a lot. I read all of them. um i still think it's strange that people care that much but i i appreciate it it was heartwarming because i and you just said you thought the video was good i thought the video was bad i was expecting it to get trashed and then everyone was like oh so that was no i think just as a vr enthusiast who hasn't really played around with the vision pro much it was really cool to hear your perspective like i you watched it i i watched about the first four minutes and i was like yeah this is chill and then i was done reading comments by then so then i moved on but i liked the vibe it was good it was just it was good energy yeah like it was cool i had fun filming it um and that's the key like that's everything like genuinely had a pretty good time filming it which was which was a little bit surprising to me as well um it felt strange for me because i haven't i haven't done short circuits um that was my first actual short circuit yeah it's just ltt but like the old style so but so old so like it was like kind of familiar but in a weird way where like we i so much i i didn't do that form of ltd for that long i did scripted for a higher percentage of my oh you've been making it yeah but then you started doing short circuits i don't know it was weird it like it felt familiar but uh like i was doing something wrong at the same time if that makes sense like i as i was talking about things i was like man i should be more prepared for this i should like have used this for a while and then i had to keep reminding myself like no no that's the whole channel yeah yeah but it's like it was it was weird yeah yeah anyways dear lld linus is a retired professional painter what is the correct surface finish of paint i should get egg gel or satin for striped paint uh okay so i had to look this up it turns out striped paint is a meme and i'm getting debated I'm very confused r slash explain the joke striped paint is a non-second nonsensical product that doesn't exist so very funny But yeah, there would be no way to do this.

3:49:24That is not a thing

3:49:28Good try, but i'm not triggered only a little just a little bit Could you alternate finishes between the stripes? if you were taking this more seriously. I mean, yeah, you could. Like, I could see... It would actually give you kind of a cool effect because you'd have... It would make the flatter one look more like it's kind of in the background, and then the glossier one would look like it kind of pops a little bit more, and it would catch the light a little bit more. So you could do that. What about checkered paint? Dan... Tartan paint? What do you... Tartan? What does tartan even mean? Is that a sauce?

3:50:06sauce for fish tartan paint what am i looking at here he get what it's a it's a pattern what is this is this an english thing r slash no no okay tartan is given a tub of red paint with tartan written on the lid tartan is just a pattern the apprentice gets a licking for shaking the what

3:50:29oh like like on a like on a scottish kilt that's that's the pattern yeah tartan yeah tartan paint What are all these, like, paint memes? I wasn't even memeing with that one. Anywho, the last one I've got for you. I'm tired, too. Hey, DLL question for Linus. What's one decision LMG made that you didn't like, but ultimately proved to be good in the end?

3:50:59Didn't like. I mean, what did I didn't like? I can think of at least one. Okay, hit me. You're not going to like it. Well, I mean, it ended up being good in the end, though? I think so. Okay. In my opinion. Yeah, hit me. Not using GoXLRs on WAN. Oh. Okay. In the end is doing a lot of heavy lifting here, though, because in the interim, it would have been pretty great for a long time that we had a lot of audio issues that could have been solved through it while we perfected this system. You got to learn things, dude. Yeah. I can't even remember what you had in here before. Oh my god, it was a nightmare.

3:51:38It was some 8-channel something-something. Oh god, it was a nightmare. It was like a laptop on a cart. It worked for one week. And then they came and helped us set it up, and that was really great, and it was awesome, and it worked. And then it didn't work ever again because I'm too dumb to fix it, basically. You didn't fix it either. Yeah, well. Wancho's cursed, dude. Wancho's cursed. I got rid of the goats. I got rid of the ghosts. Yeah, Dan operating it seems to be working, which is great. But I would go home back when I was streaming and stream a bunch the entire week and never have an issue ever.

3:52:17Just click go live and everything would work perfectly. And then I'd come to work and we'd try to do LAN and it would never work. And I would try to fix it as the person who streamed all week, no problem, and could never fix it. It didn't matter. We could replace the entire system, replace all the auto, replace the entire computer all the software reinstall everything to be fair i think the ghosts moved to sebastian's workstation um we've changed it many many times yeah have you have did you see the picture of his like teams uh no like the teams icon on his uh taskbar was upside down which i didn't even know it was a thing that was possible

3:53:00I don't know if he's memeing on me but like ghosts. Yeah at what point are you just getting trolled? I don't think he has a bone in his body to do that but wow that poor man. So 10 years of ghosts went over to him Alright I think that's it for this week we will see you guys again next week. Same bad time maybe a little earlier next week could we manage a little earlier next week we can definitely manage a little earlier next week let's do it same bad channel bye

3:53:41seriously that's the one there war NT

3:53:47it's so lonely

3:53:56Yeah.