Windows 11 Is Getting Faster - WAN Show May 15, 2026

19:52Luke Lafreniere:Discord is basically just you. That's so astonishing to me.

19:56Linus Sebastian:That no one else in my life uses it? Yeah, because I reached out to someone literally last week on a different platform and they were like, yeah, sorry, I really never check this. Can we jump to Discord? And that happens to me at least once a month. like everyone I know seems to be moving to discord okay so above the fold so this is

20:20Luke Lafreniere:one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve there's 12 chats here above the fold tell me how far back that goes I mean four down in your back a month I wonder uh by the time we get to 12 that's from that chat it's hidden by the chat uh icon is from seven months ago so there's like a dozen people that

20:48Linus Sebastian:i talked to with a frequency of twice a year my entire screen yeah when you get to the very bottom one it finally gets to two days yeah so discord is just it's discord oh man teams is teams and slack are obviously the lion's share but like discord is next after those ones and discord a bunch of discord is work do you think that's a generational gap like your cohort is five years younger than mine like yeah because then once you go far enough down below mine i don't know if it's still discord it might be something else i have no idea but probably but like even even a lot of creators oh yeah most the vast majority of creators that i talked through is through discord so nobody

21:33Luke Lafreniere:people here we've got ludwig i saw a couple of them in here shroud finster yeah um bokebola elijah and you i think you count sure and then the only work ones in here are um eshtec so uh not on raid the the other thing that they're making hex os that's embarrassing uh hex os so that's the nas software that i invested in so their ceo messages me on here and then it's just like yeah a couple couple friends a couple youtube uh contacts um work ones make up at least a quarter of my within the last day go figure like anyway until we get um until we until there's like more cross-platform chat i'm gonna get like a small percentage of my notifications on here anyway which means i'm far more likely to look at my watch um but But I can kind of, through these frames, Luke, I can see the future.

22:37Luke Lafreniere:Oh, to be clear, I don't. So I talked to Finster once, five months ago, basically, just saying, hey, it was cool that you came to visit our office. I think people are just surprised. Yeah. Elijah introduced me. um yeah i i don't i don't know i don't know very much about a lot of the people that i that i message but i've heard that she's pretty cool sure so and i think she came up for ltx once or something i think visiting the ltd camera department something something something oh no friend met you uh yeah i don't know i got introduced and from what i've heard she's pretty cool that's uh that that's all that's all i know i just thought it was funny seeing the chat yeah yeah i and apparently very popular with our audience yeah yep yeah makes sense to me uh i'm gonna take these off now they're pretty uncomfortable with the width of the headphones and stuff headphones yeah all right is there is there any leaks about the apple ones yeah lots no timelines though because they were kind of all in on the whole like vr headset that we insist is not a vr headset and that we stubbornly refuse to acknowledge the the two main use cases for vr

24:04Linus Sebastian:headsets is this from the pressure because of the headphone you have like big um whatever those are called oh yeah is that the pressure because the headphones does that always happen no it just

24:15Luke Lafreniere:always happens with them wow they're they're not light pretty heavy eh yeah they're not they're not super light but also like i don't have nose calluses like because i don't wear glasses i guess you get more use of them especially when they're heavy yeah and also just people who just like wear glasses will take off their glasses and they'll have like the mark there so i i i wouldn't read too much into that they're not uncomfortable sure sure sure sure um okay google book oh yeah we could

24:42Linus Sebastian:do that google book google book the ai sequel to chromebook on tuesday of this week google gave a sneak peek of the google book which is kind of like a chromebook but with more android support and deeper integration of gemini obviously google books can run android apps directly on the laptop or can access files and use apps from your android phone it's expected that google books will run Google's upcoming aluminum OS. Aluminium OS? Excuse me? Aluminium OS. Google didn't discuss the core hardware in the announcement, but Intel and Qualcomm have both made announcements confirming their partnerships.

25:20Linus Sebastian:So yeah, okay. Google VP John Maletis later told Chrome Unbox that the upcoming notebooks will ship with processors from, okay, Intel, Qualcomm, and MediaTek. Oh, and MediaTek.

25:33Luke Lafreniere:Interesting. Wireless, I'm assuming. uh no no no so okay from my understanding and i'm gonna get some details wrong here because i don't remember and it was a while ago but from my understanding the whole windows on arm thing being qualcomm exclusive with their snapdragon x chips is like a timed thing and uh that's one of the reasons that qualcomm has been so cagey around people calling it windows on arm they want it called like windows on snapdragon uh because they want to like like plant their flag in the in the windows on arm space yeah uh before you know some of the lower cost chipset makers can can come in and well do what they do best which is be lower cost chipset makers and um so while we haven't seen any meaningful traction for media tech on the windows side yet yeah i can't think of any reason that a MediaTek SOC couldn't power a Google book and so having that choice right out of the gate could be very interesting.

26:41Luke Lafreniere:Pugboy says MediaTek has been in Chromebooks for years now. Nothing surprising there. Yeah, so what I haven't seen though is a MediaTek chipset that would be like high performance. Do they have something new that's coming that could be more of a competitor for Snapdragon X? That I don't know. I remember, I have a vague memory of maybe at some point there being like a MediaTek laptop grade chip that was going to be not like an absolute budget tier solution. So yeah, hit me up in chat if you guys know if we're going to get something high performance, because that would be pretty cool. Yeah. Carry on.

27:22Linus Sebastian:Google is establishing strict hardware standards across memory, storage, keyboards, and overall build quality. Google Books will come in a variety of shapes and sizes from the usual hardware manufacturers of Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc.

27:36Luke Lafreniere:Okay, but this is the big one. This is the big feature. This is the exciting differentiator. This is why you need a Google Book, sir. Tell them the news.

27:47Linus Sebastian:Google Books feature a glow bar on the exterior. We don't know what it does. We don't know what it looks like. We don't know anything about it. but Google says that it is both functional and beautiful.

28:00Luke Lafreniere:Okay, I'm actually only sort of joking because how quickly would you get a MacBook that went back to having the glowing Apple logo on the back? Just saying. You do it. I do. You MacBook owners. If M6 brought back the glowing logo on the back, you'd consider an upgrade. That's how Apple is going to get all the people running M1, M2 Silicon to finally upgrade. you'd love to have it you've got the glowing red dot and you love it dot is actually genuinely helpful you love it so i can tell my laptop's doing based on the glowing red he loves it

28:33Linus Sebastian:he loves it here comes the glow bar i'm derek says holy true i am actually okay with it just being a little red dot though so like i don't know what that means well um axios writer ina freed hopefully probably uh called the most visible change with the google book the magic pointer which calls up gemini oh right i don't know about that but okay um it's not yet clear okay when you

29:02Luke Lafreniere:you didn't finish your sentence yeah you did the thing the the magic pointer which calls up gemini anytime you wiggle the cursor and the amount of like misprompts for that is going to be wild but

29:15Linus Sebastian:But it's not yet clear what this means for the future of Chromebooks. So the wiggle the cursor thing.

29:24Linus Sebastian:The amount of times that I'm just thinking and I'll like kind of shake my mouse.

29:28Luke Lafreniere:I have to consciously, when Luke is reading the doc, I have to consciously not do this.

29:36Linus Sebastian:Yeah, exactly.

29:36Luke Lafreniere:Because it interferes with him reading because I just like, I just do this as I'm reading.

29:41Linus Sebastian:Well, and it's not just that it's highlighting it. It's that the man, if I can, no, keep doing it. Keep doing it. Oh, keep doing it. Oh, I can do that all day. Because on my screen, see how it actually says like Wancho 1. Oh, wait, I moved my screen. Yeah. It's the little flag. So as I'm reading. So that will actually like physically cover up entire words sometimes. It's like, yo, I like actually can't read this. Now they're both doing it. They're actually moving the text around. Yeah, Dan, you pasted the text. That is not fair.

30:12Luke Lafreniere:Sorry, it's a click and drag thing.

30:13Linus Sebastian:That's even worse. Yeah. But yeah, I'll even literally just like shake my mouse. So like the amount of times that I would unintentionally bring this thing up. And then I think it looks like it kind of like overlays your screen, almost like a snipping tool kind of thing. So like it's going to be really annoying.

30:32Luke Lafreniere:um however there is one ai feature of aluminium os that is also coming to android that i am like so freaking jazzed for hold on hold on hold on okay i'm trying to contain myself luke i'm trying to contain myself okay it's hard to contain myself i typed it down because i suspected the same yeah it's the like ai widgets yeah they're actually really cool they look so cool this is such a perfect application of like ai slop crap coding that nobody else is gonna need like okay uh a perfect the one that i want is like a um uh like like an ultimate like time zone tracker just for me uh like i i just want particular information like i also want maybe a little bit of like weather in there um for i like to have something in southeast asia like taiwan so that i i know what's going on like i know what time zone it is for anyone that i'm corresponding with in asia ish okay i like to have one in europe so like usually i'll pick like paris or something like that just so i know about what time it is in europe and then i'll do the math myself for east coast north america but i'll have like a local one and just the ones that exist are so bland and so boring like you can see the one i'm using now it's just like i don't know here's three times this could be so cool uh what if i could long press on one of the other time zones i don't know if it's going to be able to do this but i i can kind of i can kind of see where we're headed like what if i could long press on one of the time zones and then i could uh make an event on my calendar according to that time zone because i know because like creating events across time zones sucks so much like when i'm over in taiwan for computex and i want to make a make a note to remind myself the evening of the tuesday when i'm back to go to whoever's you know band recital or whatever yeah i then have to do the math for what time it is now that it will be there and if i could just like integrate like calendar and like like cool stuff like that then i'd love it and i know we're not there yet don't think you have to do that though um i think under more options on desktop sure but i want to be able to do it quickly yeah fair enough yeah so i think on desktop you can set your time zone i think uh yeah so i can see the option like i can go do that but if i could just if i could just like long press here and basically just go yeah great let's go and like as it is now like i can go in here and then i can set my time zone i can do this like super tedious flow but i want to be able to do it quickly and that's the whole pitch of these like custom ai widgets is taking the things that you do all the time that almost nobody else does all the time and making them like one or two presses oh chef kiss can't wait so excited if

33:40Linus Sebastian:if I could put it on like one of my side monitors I I actually thought of this while we were sitting here and now I just want to do it anyways and I'm pretty sure I can uh but I would have something on my side monitor not my main monitor that warns me about things that I might need to be prepared for for tomorrow and it should start generating that at like yeah 5 p.m yeah or like Because the calendar is going to change all day. And then at around 5 p.m. It's probably going to decently lock in. And if it can let me know of like, oh, you have like an offsite or something. Yeah. And like, let's say it's not even just for work stuff.

34:20Linus Sebastian:So it's like, oh, you're going hiking tomorrow. Make sure you like have the right clothes that are clean.

34:28Luke Lafreniere:MN Connor, MN Connor, you're missing the point. The beauty of widgets is that I don't have to open my Google calendar.

34:34Linus Sebastian:Yeah.

34:35Luke Lafreniere:he's like you can it's like it's literally a giant button on my google calendar awareness thing i don't want to open my google calendar i i want to just stay on my home screen like i actually have uh like i used to maintain like a whole bunch of like constant tabs in my in my mobile browser and i've got it down to four and i have found that just that action of like opening up the Chrome app less and having like fewer tabs and fewer things to click on and go into is making me use my phone like way less nice um and I'm I'm stoked on anything that helps me use my phone less that was one line from the Google event that really stood out to me is we are everything what we're doing for the future of Android is with an eye toward using your phone less and doing more with the help of your phone.

35:28Luke Lafreniere:Now there's some stuff that's just obviously horse shit. The assistant, they did this crazy demo where you snap a picture of a concert poster and then you just tell Gemini, hey, can you just book me two floor tickets for that? I'm gonna take a girl with me and set a date for that. And then you go on your date and then you're just like, hey, make another date for next week. no girl wants to hear from your fucking ai assistant that you asked her out again are you are you kidding me right now stop it just stop it stop it don't even pitch this that's not how this works that's not how any of this works maybe in silicon valley maybe maybe if it's your ai assistant maybe but like just just no probably work no um like dude i i said i said in the script like when i in the video that we did on the google event i was like yeah even just setting an alarm has about a 80 to 90 success rate for me oh yeah and since then i tried to set an alarm for something and it uh and it screwed up the um what did it do no it timed out so i i and i was on wi-fi i was on wi-fi at home so i was like two and a half gig internet so i didn't want to hear it and then uh this is a this is a funny one um i was dictating to my uh to my notes because i was actually thinking like just because meta sends these glasses over to me for a sponsored short doesn't mean i don't still have them i could i could totally just do an editorial video on them after the fact so i've started making some notes from my time just using them now and i i was reminded of a super annoying thing that dictation just does that drives me absolutely crazy what is up with this word square being capitalized the the so the so the sentence here is and the video quality off of these things is just is is capitalized is just mind-blowingly good period Also, the fact that sometimes it writes the word period and comma, and other times it just puts in the period for me.

37:49Luke Lafreniere:Come on, man. I would love to see Meta use a sensor that's square, kind of like the selfie camera on the latest iPhone, so that I could choose to crop landscape if I want to. It capitalized square, and it capitalized is. Why? And then the next sentence, not everything that I do is best portrayed in portrait. not that's the beginning of a sentence not is not capitalized the word portrayed is capitalized and then between in and portrait there are two spaces you can't convince me that that should ask out someone that i potentially want to spend the rest of my life with

38:27Linus Sebastian:you've got to be kidding the stakes are too high i'm afraid i don't use dictation very much yeah when you just showed me square i was like oh they it thought the company sure but in that context And no, it did not. No, come on. And they did it to Portrayed and all this other stuff.

38:41Luke Lafreniere:Is Portrayed a company? Is that like a prominent Silicon? Hold on here. Is that a prominent Silicon Valley company?

38:50Linus Sebastian:Portrayed Brands.

38:51Luke Lafreniere:Nope. Forget it. You're done. You're cooked. You're out. You're fried. So there are definitely things that are exciting and there are things that AI is really good at. I tried to, I was looking for a moment from an older video a little while ago, and I just couldn't remember. I was looking for a time on Short Circuit when I had used AI to try to find our desk pad. I wanted it to send me to LTT Store to the Northern Lights desk pad by taking a picture of it. I was using like the Circle to Search or Google Lens or something like that. One of their image recognition search things. and I couldn't remember what video it was from.

39:37Luke Lafreniere:And Gemini just kept gaslighting me over and over and over and over again that it was from, I think it was like the Pixel 10 or something like that or Pixel 9a or that it was from the Galaxy S24 Ultra or something. And finally, you know how I ultimately found it was YouTube transcript. search i'm trying to remember what that site filmot filmot this is a really cool site so it just kept insisting and and the craziest part is was i felt so gaslit by it because it would give me a time stamp and it would describe the thing that happened it was like you searched for the thing and it just brought up other desk pads of like landscapes or something or like it it brought up like the mkbhd store or whatever like it was like i was like yeah yeah that's what i remember happening but it kept telling me it happened in this video when i was like no it's not in that video and it would keep insisting that it was in one of these couple of videos and it just couldn't find it and the way that i ultimately found it was by um going here on film this is a super cool tool by the way and i just searched for uh northern lights yes yes yes i'm human oh my god relax hey uh yeah you go here uh verify i'm smarter than an ai i've never seen that one before okay it was from here google 10 pixel pro a google pixel 10 pro fold was what it was from and the ai could not check this one it just insisted that it was on a different one and but it knew it described the way it went down perfectly it just linked me to the wrong video yeah and then chat gpt tripped over itself as well it couldn't do it either and so man but then there's but then there's things that it does so well like i i don't know man i don't know i don't know how to deal with this anymore i don't know how to deal with this like i like i well okay what what have you used ai for that's been useful recently

41:56Linus Sebastian:yeah fair enough all right we can move on i've used it in the same way for a super long time i'll use it for i never use its actual output that's been a rule for a long time yeah i use it for brainstorming every once in a while i'll be like here's here's a topic i need all the basic like fundamentals of this topic and then it'll give me basically like headline things not headline things um i don't know if i'm asking about a mouse it'll say latency you know like like things like that like it'll give me all the different things to consider oh and then i'll dive into those um another one probably my basically like a checklist to make sure you don't overlook anything yeah yeah okay i want to learn about this topic what are the different like subcategory type things i don't remember the actual verbiage because i just copy paste it uh what are what are the things within this topic that i need to care about and then it'll let me know and then i'll dive into those usually myself or i'll ask it to expand on one of them and then dive into it from there but i try to usually make it so that my final information does not come from it because I'm relatively aware of how consistently wrong it is about things.

43:12Linus Sebastian:And then probably overall time, I don't know if in the last month or two, but overall time, my most commonly used prompt objectively is going to be the sentiment analysis one where I'll be sending a message and I'll be worried about how it's going to be interpreted. Yeah. So I'll kind of rubber ducky with the LLM and just be like, what, what sentiment analysis would you get from this message kind of in a vacuum?

43:37Luke Lafreniere:You know, what's funny is I actually, I use it very rarely, but that was something I used it for pretty recently. I pasted in an argument that Yvonne and I happened to get into over text. And I was like, whose fault was it? And basically it crapped out that it was kind of both of our fault and it legitimately did help us resolve it. Yeah. And I was like, okay, well, I'm sorry for that thing that I did that I didn't really like notice or realize I was doing. yeah and she was like well i'm sorry for that thing that i did that i didn't really notice or realize that i was doing and then we were like okay i want to make out like through through wanshow i have told you're not quite like that i have told a very large number of people about

44:19Linus Sebastian:this whole sentiment analysis thing and i find so few people ever try it and every single person i've ever known that has ever tried it has been like oh it's actually pretty good because like if you really sat there and really break it down for a while you'll find those things but often it's like ah this is this is the message that i would send if this was a normal day i would just click send but i want to be a little bit more careful copy paste blunk and then it'll be like it'll it'll say some stuff and it's like yeah i could see that so then you make the adjustment

44:47Luke Lafreniere:yourself what are your personal tells for when you know that you're probably cranky mine is eating sounds if people if people eating near me is annoying then i know that i'm in a bad mood even if i didn't realize it before because eating sounds normally i won't even notice them but when i'm like when i'm low blood sugar or i haven't slept enough or there's something that's just kind of been agitating me or i have a headache or whatever if someone is in the same room as me and i can hear that like lip smacking i just i like i want to i want to punch them and i'll like i'll be like i'll be sitting there going like why am i so agitated right now look at them like They're eating.

45:29Luke Lafreniere:Do they know how much noise they're making? Oh, this is me.

45:39Luke Lafreniere:Oh, no. Togeki B says, I get this hearing you with the braces. Hey, I have good news on the braces front. Well, he thinks. Hey, look. I get on. It's not that zoomed. Whatever. There's one tooth here. That's still quite twisted. and from what I can tell when we untwist that one we're pretty much done so I am hoping fingers crossed that we are like two and a half to three months from the end here which would put us at the low end of the time estimate they gave me they said about 12 to 18 months and that would put us at around the 12 and a half 13 month mark we wasted like an entire cycle with a tie on this one that wasn't secure enough and wasn't moving it and i i felt it right away i was like should i go in and tell them to like like tie that off better because i can tell it's not moving and i know that this is the focus but i didn't and when i came in they were like oh yeah that wasn't doing anything so we have to put in the same wire again but we're gonna like tie it different

46:44Linus Sebastian:reposition the bracket i was like no that sucks i think for me it's like speed speed if i start noticing that I'm just like like off the dome just rifling it's usually not a great situation oh so you're doing things no longer controlling my pace if I'm no longer really thinking through what I'm saying if I'm going more impulsive animalistic autopilot brain it's like I'm probably tilted right now and I need to and the the main way that I can try to get out of that is to try to force myself to slow down.

47:19Luke Lafreniere:How often does that happen on WAN show?

47:22Linus Sebastian:Not that often, I think.

47:26Luke Lafreniere:Do you believe him? Dan nodded. I tried to cut him off. I tried to cut him off because that was so perfect.

47:36Linus Sebastian:But yeah, I think that's my answer to that. There's a few other things as well. The eating thing I think is pretty common. I think I get that too. I don't think I get it as bad as you. I've seen you react to that before.

47:53Linus Sebastian:But yeah, I'll like... And I'll start noticing that like the non-automatic part of the brain is now focused on what happened a few seconds ago instead of what I'm going to do next. Because I'm going so fast that it's like, oh, I didn't like that. I didn't frame that well. and now I'm thinking about that instead of what I'm saying next and then I start kind of falling behind and I need to go like no no no no let's let's slow down and get more control over what's happening um what is the actual aim of this conversation instead of being right about the next statement how do I how do I come out the best possible way out of the conclusion of this scenario or conversation or whatever it is uh so I try to pull myself back into like you know larger picture thinking i don't know whatever it's uh yeah oh it's not easy though

48:49Luke Lafreniere:it's not easy because like you have to count on one of your tells like one of your cues to to come up you have to slow down enough to think which i need to slow down really difficult which can be very difficult i don't remember recognizing that you need to slow down

49:09Linus Sebastian:is difficult but then the like really difficult part is actually pulling it back you know what

49:15Luke Lafreniere:i'm the opposite i can pull it back once i have recognized that i need to then that's actually relatively easy for me but the slowing down for long enough to go wait a second we've gone off the rails here or we're completely focused on the wrong thing right now is not always not always easy yeah for me yeah um uh float plane chat y 'all need to stop flaming each other and y 'all gonna y 'all gonna get some timeouts pretty quick what's going on i don't care how much tenure you have relax thank you everybody uh all right why don't we jump into a new topic oh no we are explaining comms hey oh dude dude okay it's not launching with the same amount of fanfare as like the screwdriver or the cables or the backpack or whatever but this took a similar time frame to

50:18Luke Lafreniere:develop really okay so it was in it was in development hell for a couple of years until we finally found exactly the right fabric for these garments and uh this is our uv protective polo, which is made with seawool fabric that's derived from reclaimed oyster shells. Yes, oyster shells that have been turned into a lightweight performance fabric that has antimicrobial properties. It has, because of the weave, excellent moisture wicking, excellent breathability, not to mention UPF 30 plus sun protection. The inside collar has a pop of blue, and we also added a dedicated deeper chest pocket for your sunglasses.

51:12Luke Lafreniere:This is the one that I've had a sample of, of using like an older fabric that we found. We actually did a full production run of this thing. But what we found was that the older fabric could not be manufactured consistently. So the sizing of the finished run was all over the place. It is not very often that a Chinese manufacturer will tell you, hey, this thing that we made is not of acceptable quality. We don't want to ship it to you. but that's what happened and they were like we literally don't want to take your money for this the sizing is all over the place so we had to find a new material this is made of the same seawool fabric blend for lightweight upf 30 plus sun protection anti-odor performance and breathable comfort for your beach days summer commutes or those moments when your friends somehow convince you to do outdoor activities um i have gotten a shocking number of compliments on my sample of this over the last couple of years.

52:08Luke Lafreniere:It is genuinely one of my favorite garments that we have ever made. And it is like, if you are like me, if you're a vampire and you burn in the sun and you want something that you can wear, but that doesn't make you feel sweaty, it's like wearing like a robe in the sun. It's like wearing an umbrella. It keeps you out of the sun, but you can like go in the sun And you can even, like, you can go swimming in it and dry off. And because it's antimicrobial, then you don't have to worry about, like, stinking so much. Like, it's not magic, you know. Obviously, you get dog dew on it or whatever. You're going to smell like dog dew.

52:49Luke Lafreniere:But, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dude, these are so exciting. It helps with some minor odors or whatever. And then finally, finally. Oh, do you want to bring up the site so we can show people? I'm sure they're like a fun in the sun product. So, I'm sure they did, like, a fun photo shoot. and then finally to go with them we've got the uv protective cap which uses a separate lightweight moisture wicking performance fabric with upf 50 plus protection while keeping the same familiar ltd hat fit i'm so so excited about these you can check them out at lmg.gg slash uv collection i think this is something that is going to uh really resonate with our audience because hey let's face it i can't be the only one of us that is a bit of a vampire and want something that helps me be stay out of the sun while being out in the sun eco-conscious sea wool from oyster shells sounds uh this is the kind of stuff that tatiana just like goes and finds no that's super cool it's

53:53Linus Sebastian:just so she's really passionate about this kind of stuff as as a as a someone who's completely ignorant in that world it sounds fake it sounds like jonathan talking about kubernetes to me if i don't know anything about it like what that's a really really really good description like what are you even how does that even how's that possible like a cloud service micro orchestration yeah what are you talking about it sounds super cool it's it sounds awesome i like the fact that it's not uh some form of like petroleum plastic derivative thing also that's cool i would love

54:29Luke Lafreniere:to shout out the fashion team did you notice something crazy about this launch uh it's at a

54:38Linus Sebastian:time of the year that makes sense i don't even know if that's where you're going but like that's been a problem for ldt store historically yeah yeah oh my god oh my god good job linus no not me

54:50Luke Lafreniere:not me not me good job then for stepping out of the way oh i mean i was not in the way uh if anything i have definitely wanted things on time let's let's let's be real here what it comes down to is yeah the execution of the team uh so i've got to give like a massive kudos to bridget yeah she has been she she i don't it was a weird thing her coming to work here because she like worked at a real company i was gonna say she came from like yeah yeah bootlegger yeah like a you know like an actual you know like fashion company and she's been here for like going on five years now i think so like this is a very substantial like portion of her career now.

55:37Luke Lafreniere:And every once in a while, I kind of check in with her and I'm like, how's that going for you? You know, does that seem in hindsight, like a good decision? And, um, and, and I mean, I don't want to put any words in her mouth, but she's still here, obviously. And she's been, she's been pushing the team really hard to start acting like what we are. this is not merch this is apparel this is this is clothing this is fashion this is uh this is a really this is i really like the feel of these this is a highly technical garment yeah and and technical means a different thing shells in it dude yeah it means a different thing in the fashion world but what it means is that it's not pure fashion it's not just for the looks it's a highly functional piece that that achieves its function in a way that is really just not as simple as finding some off the shelf thing and then you know cutting it and sewing it into the shape

56:33Linus Sebastian:that you want oh i misspoke i misspoke there is polyester in it oh okay there you go i misspoke

56:38Luke Lafreniere:yeah no it's a blend my bad it's a blend um and so you know i've got to give uh i've got to give um i've got to give credit to the because i think the sea wool is mostly responsible for the antimicrobial elements that makes sense yeah um and so yeah i've got it's very nice i've got to give credit to the team it has almost like a cooling to the touch yeah i really i can you

57:02Linus Sebastian:can tell i'm not even wearing it i'm just i'm so i've i have mine like down here it's a fidget toy um and and you can tell that it would not like i'm gripping it and it feels cool in my grip if that makes sense so my hand isn't really heating it up so uh bridget came from like the

57:19Luke Lafreniere:traditional fashion world where on time was the only thing that mattered and you did like you shipped it you didn't do another sample you just shipped it because on time is the only thing that matters you you literally would never put the wrong season thing on the shelf it just doesn't work like that and then she came here where the only thing that mattered was winter jackets in june make it make it the best it it can be and when it arrives we try to sell it and she's been

57:48Linus Sebastian:kind of balance a little bit bring those mentalities together uh completely the other way

57:58Luke Lafreniere:yeah not completely no absolutely not in fact that's a big part of the reason this took three years not because it took three years necessarily but because we went okay now it's done so we're gonna ship it at the next opportunity that is a proper season for us to for us to ship this thing and um and so yeah i've just i've got to give her credit for having the discipline and having the the vision to to basically go okay look i'm going to take what i learned here that's really really important from this you know from my my past career and i'm going to use that to kind of elevate our strategy here and i'm just i'm i'm really excited about what they're doing on the apparel side dude we have like 80 plus product launches coming between now and the end of the year like think about that for a second we will be launching almost two new products a week yeah more than two new products a week for the rest of the year it's pretty wild yeah that's a lot and and it's not with an enormous team it's just a small team of people who just care a whole freaking lot um which is yeah which is pretty cool uh hold on a second And, ooh, Gilmore D says, I saw an Instagram reel before about the new shirts.

59:14Luke Lafreniere:Am I remembering correctly that Tatiana said something about part of the process making it safe for people with shellfish allergies? My wife has a shellfish allergy.

59:28Luke Lafreniere:You know what? I normally wouldn't bug Tatiana during WAN show, but I'm just going to see if I can grab her here because we gave people the afternoon off anyway, so if I bug her for like two minutes at quarter after six, it's probably not the end of the world. Let's see if she picks up.

59:55Luke Lafreniere:Oh, it looks like, um, oh shoot. Sammy just posted in chat. Apparently she's on vacation. Okay. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna bug her then. Well, sorry. I, uh, will have to find, I will have to find that out for you and, and we'll get someone, we'll get someone to post it on the product page. Okay. uh dan do you mind uh sending that to um yeah to maybe bridget to to check into that would be that would be amazing roman says get work zoned yeah well you you know how it is you know how it is um all right anyway so that's the new products that you guys can check out at ltd store and if you're looking for a good reason to do it then why not so you can send a com uh comms are checkout messages.

1:00:42Luke Lafreniere:They're something that we created because we don't really believe in people just throwing money at their screens and getting maybe nothing in return from streamers. So we don't do Twitch bits. We don't do super chats. We don't really do any of that stuff. Instead, we do checkout messages or comms. So what you do is you head over to lttstore.com. You add any of the cool stuff that we have on there to your cart. Like say, for example, the, I don't know,

1:01:08Linus Sebastian:the polo shirt luke's just shopping so you know whatever no i was noticing uh you go in here and there's a polo shirt and then you go under apparel and you go to shirts okay uh dan that's another

1:01:21Luke Lafreniere:note if we could i already sent it off oh okay that's what i was doing with all my phone and

1:01:26Linus Sebastian:stuff wonderful yeah we can we can let's go to something else let's do this yeah the multi the

1:01:31Luke Lafreniere:the new smaller multi-bit precision set. So this one doesn't have the in-handle storage, but it does come with the torque bar so that you can, you can drive things harder if you want. It comes with fewer bits anyway. Okay. Throw it in the cart. And whenever we're live, you'll see this interface to send a checkout message. You can choose your color. You can choose whether to show your name or be anonymous. Joshua C chose to show his name up there. After you place your order, it will go to producer Dan. There he is. who will reply to it or who will uh curate it for me and luke to respond to so why don't we do a couple curated checkout messages yeah sure we've got quite a few come through already really doesn't roll off the tongue like merch messages did does it no i just i can't call it merch anymore luke i can't call it merch i mean i'm open to a rebranding again because it's really maybe the messages are not working for me the the merch was the friends we made along the way like what are we even something like that i don't know man i like i liked whale words whale words those are kind of fun yeah i don't know i'll let me fester on it a little bit more please do consider something else yeah hey dlm love the products as always i like the new site but i'm wondering when slash if the archive slash retired products page was talked about uh still gonna happen yeah the plan is still for it to happen it hasn't happened yet we were hard at work getting the new site up and running um i gotta say like shout out cw and dev team like the fact that our new site went up and it has as few game breaking bugs as it had like it was i think zero game breakers and like maybe one or two things that i'd consider high severity and then like a handful of low severity things like as far as new site launches go i don't think i've seen much smoother than that like i was actually really impressed with the team um oh something i haven't checked yet uh remember i showed you that weird bug on my fold where our imagery on the site would be duplicated i haven't tried it on the new site yet let's see okay so i'm gonna click a product i'm gonna click the uv protective hoodie no it's fixed now cool so the image scrolling is is sideways now which honestly is like probably better anyway.

1:03:52Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. All right, cool. So yeah, good job. We inadvertently fixed my stupid folding phone issue.

1:03:58Linus Sebastian:Yeah, there's... Trying to figure out if things are a bug or not. There's a new gallery style that we have. It's more prominently noticeable in other products, but like on this one, EV Protective Hoodie, it's selected on Icy Blue by default. I scroll down and all I see is Icy Blue. And then they end. Oh. If I want to see the other one, I click on cactus and then cactus ones. This is apparently very normal. Other like fashion brands are doing this. This is not like we're not the only ones doing this. I think I might be out of touch. I don't shop for things online a lot guy by being like, I don't like that so much.

1:04:41Linus Sebastian:Right. You want to see all the different options. And then have clicking the thing, just scroll me to the other color.

1:04:47Luke Lafreniere:No, it's tough. No, I think I can already give you the answer to this. And I think the reason is that we have...

1:04:53Linus Sebastian:No, there's other places that do this.

1:04:54Luke Lafreniere:No, no, I just mean, even for us though, we have evergreen items. Like our blank t-shirts are... They're on, again, trying to be more like a fashion brand. We have seasonal colors now. So we have our evergreen colors, like black, and then we will do like new colors. and so when if we were to do all of if we were to do a photo shoot with these five colors and then we were to launch these three colors then what would happen is you would have this weird like photo gallery that contains these five colors an incredible amount of some of which are gone and then all these new colors wouldn't be represented there so you've got to for me

1:05:39Linus Sebastian:go to the party shirt for a sec yeah sure and like I'm more than happy to accept that I may be wrong here. No, I'm not saying... You're not wrong. You're just... You know... This is where it gets a little cray-cray for me. Because now you have the series as well.

1:06:01Luke Lafreniere:This one's out of stock. Oh, we should remove these ones that are all out of stock. Dan, do you mind sending a note, please? To whom? But hold on. Dave. they're not wait what click on the other series oh shoot okay i would say that's a bug oh okay that's a problem okay we need to figure that out uh yeah we definitely need to figure that out because it doesn't say that it's out of stock

1:06:28Linus Sebastian:what it's saying technically is that like frutiger era does not have the hostile avista

1:06:34Luke Lafreniere:yeah design okay we need to figure that out so yeah there's some there's some stuff but it's It's not that bad.

1:06:42Linus Sebastian:I think it looks and feels great. The site in general.

1:06:45Luke Lafreniere:By the way, check out one of the party shirts. Curtis B. from Madison, US. 10 out of 10. This shirt changed my life. Okay. That was the Solitaire Large, but there's lots of other variants of our tremendous party shirts. Do you look half this cool right now? I doubt it. No. I doubt it. I just, a strong doubt. That's all. Okay, Dan, do you want to hit us with a couple of comms? sure i've got one more here for you thank you for the more polo shirts please add even more colors especially for premium polo what's y 'all's opinion on polo shirts and what do you look for when designing a polo um i'm gonna i'm gonna lean on uh lisa from the cw team and the big thing that she talks about to the point of like oh my god lisa i get it yes i know this is important to our design process.

1:07:37Luke Lafreniere:You are 100 % right. But she harps on this and it's really important, like to be clear, what she's saying is so valid and so right. And it's important to say it over and over again, because you should never lose track of it is she always talks about our customer and what they need, not what they want, or what they think they might like what they need. And the way that one of the things that she really tries to emphasize is ease of wearing. And like, what does she mean by that? What she means is that for better or for worse, the people who have chosen to follow the exploits of Linus and Luke over the last, you know, 14 years or however long it's been can be a little bit like Linus and Luke, who are wearing what today?

1:08:33Luke Lafreniere:A black t-shirt. Why are they both wearing a black t-shirt? It goes with everything. Because it's easy to wear. And so that's the thing that Lisa is always hammering on is when she's looking at, okay, how do we help our customer who we know is going to make their choice based on what is very easy to wear, how do we help them up style a little bit? And so that's where you've gotten innovations like the pop of color in the collar, where we're not trying to overwhelm you when you look at your clothes in your closet in the morning or in your drawers, but we're trying to help you make a choice that is easy and that elevates your style a little bit.

1:09:25Luke Lafreniere:And that's exactly, you know, what they try to do with the, uh, with the polos also comfort. Like that's one of my things is I'll always tell them, look, I don't care. I don't care how many oysters it has in it. Right.

1:09:37Linus Sebastian:Like that is not, I actually think that's really cool.

1:09:39Luke Lafreniere:No, no, no. I just mean, I don't care how many oysters is in it. If it's not comfortable or if it shrinks in the wash. Yeah.

1:09:45Linus Sebastian:I will say my, my, my interest in it being made with oysters spiked dramatically after I touched it and was like, wow, it feels really nice. Yes. and then and then now that's really cool and i'm interested in that yeah i want to figure out like i'm gonna go home and try to learn about uh what was ocean wool or something sea wool sea wool i want to figure out how that how the heck they make that yeah i'm gonna go like watch

1:10:09Luke Lafreniere:something or whatever so that's where you see the inputs super interesting from all the different members of the team come together uh during mile hands address um i made kind of like a joke um i I forget. What did I refer to our size as a company as? Did I call it? An oil tanker or something? Or something like that. I called us. Do you remember what word I used, Dan? Let's see if he was listening.

1:10:37Luke Lafreniere:Oh, we're both trying to turn on Dan at the same time and he ends up turned off by it. You're better at it. I don't know. I can't remember what you said. Was it mass? I don't know. It was something along. it was something along those lines. No, I don't remember. But one of the things that I was kind of emphasizing is that that's a key advantage for us is that we have so many different inputs that go into our outputs. And sometimes that can feel like a too many chefs situation and it can feel like bloat. But I think that when it's done well, it actually really elevates everything that we do, whether it's video or whether it's physical goods or whether it's a streaming platform or whatever else it is that we're creating.

1:11:22Luke Lafreniere:So like in a product like this, you can see Bridget's influence. It launched at a freaking reasonable time season-wise. You can see like Tony and Dave's, their influence in the marketing and the fact that it's available concurrently at both of our distribution centers. You can see like Tatiana's influence in the materials choices. You can see Olamide's influence in the fit. You can see like Lisa's influence in just the ease of wearing it and all that stuff. You can see my influence in that it's going to be comfortable and not shrink in the wash, or at least not much. Yeah, it's lots of stuff. It's lots of stuff.

1:12:06Luke Lafreniere:Was it mass? Yeah, it was mass. All right. Okay, apparently it was mass. Now I feel like I have to double check. I have my all hands address speech here. It's the kind of thing that I wonder if there's some kind of an outlet where we can kind of like talk to the audience a little bit about some of the stuff that we talked about. Like the float plane update was so cool. And I feel like... You know, the viewership of Jonathan's like... You should give context. So Jonathan from the float plane team.

1:12:37Linus Sebastian:Float plane was part of our all hands for the first time. Was that this week? what a what a week uh uh full plane was part of the all hands for the first time this week so we got to show people like what we do um and i had the i thought it would be a lot less interesting to have me just kind of stand up there and talk so i mostly just intro'd like what full plane is just in case someone works in a business unit that's really far from full plane it doesn't really know um and and and what we do on a at a very high level very quickly and then tried to get out of the way because i thought it'd be much more interesting to have you know the developers speak for themselves as to what they do what they have contributed what things they're doing on the platform um and then also have uh the infrastructure side get presented from from jonathan who's currently the the primary for infrastructure on flowplane um and it was really good but jonathan's first video was if i remember correctly almost 11 minutes long um he's a long time recorded it uh well not re-recorded he re-rendered it with cutting a bunch of the the like gaps between talking out it came down to i think it was like a minute and a half minute or sorry nine and a half minutes or nine minutes and 45 it's still pretty long especially in all hands context and it was dense it was dense and it was pretty deep in the weeds and it was really really cool but i was like we're gonna lose 90 people with this um can we get a more like slimmed down version that we're still going to lose people with.

1:14:10Linus Sebastian:And I think at a certain point, I had some comments on this of like, oh yeah, it was like it was too technical. And it's like at a certain point that has to be okay because I can't make it like if it just is really technical. So like we, you know, try to make it approachable, try to give real world scenarios. Like he talked about like what our infrastructure did when a power supply died in one of our servers and how the service didn't go down and how that blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So he tried to make it like relatable. He tried to basically, I think the way that we described it, if my memory serves me correctly, is we tried to take like a math or physics problem that was just numbers and we tried to make it a word problem.

1:14:55Linus Sebastian:So like you try to add context. Instead of an object flying through the air with gravitational force and whatever else, it's a catapult and they're trying to hit a target and now you have to figure out the math for it. Like it makes it, you can understand it more easily. So we tried to take that approach, but we took the like uncompressed, you know, Jonathan version, which was much longer and we put it on like an internal thing so people could see it. And that actually got a decent amount of views. I was worried that maybe no one would watch it. Oh, they did. Like I wanted to watch it. Some of them watched it real fast.

1:15:29Linus Sebastian:Really?

1:15:30Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. That's super cool.

1:15:31Linus Sebastian:I got messages before I had settled down at my desk being like,

1:15:36Luke Lafreniere:I thought the float plane team did a great job of their presentations overall, actually. Yeah. And I just, I was very happy. I feel like this was probably the most eyeopening all hands we've ever done for the people who work on the media side of the business. Because it was, I think the first time that we haven't really talked about the media side of the business at all. and it's um it's not to be clear i don't you know i'm not going to say that the media side is not important it's extremely important it's the foundation upon which everything else was built let's be real here but i think sometimes um it's easy for the media side because i work in the media business day to day it's easy for us to kind of go hey we're the center of the universe and like everything else is outside of our tunnel vision.

1:16:36Luke Lafreniere:You know what I mean? And like I felt like there were moments when I kind of like looked out over the crowd and I saw people like really engaged. It did seem to be. I'm really interested in learning what like entire departments of people who have like been with the company for three to five years have been building all this time. um and so i really you heard jonathan and peter right eight plus like they've been around we don't see them because a lot of the a lot of people in the other be use uh even creator warehouse um they have their own unit or they a lot of them are are off-site so we literally don't see them uh a lot of the a lot of the folks on the media side don't even talk to them or think about them um but they're really really important to keeping the lights on and keeping thing keeping things going right keeping the ship sailing um yeah yeah it was really cool i was pretty excited

1:17:38Linus Sebastian:about it i was a little nervous about it because again i i'm i'm well you had multiple teams presenting you had infra and float plane well it was it was float plane infra right okay sorry which does some stuff for local okay so there was like the little shout out at the end of like we also do all of this which was like the hosting of all the services for for internal things yeah because the the flow plane and internal infrastructure slash it teams blend a little bit now um like like jonathan does work on both sides um and and aj does work on both sides jonathan is more float plane leaning aj is more lmg leaning these days um but like there there is there is shared resources across the or like smash champs or whatever the whole the whole inter tangled web of companies yeah and the infrastructure is like right at the heart of the intertangled web of companies so like there is there is as it would be right yeah but that was predominantly a presentation on float plane infrastructure right um yeah it was good though it was awesome yeah i thought it was really good and like the feedback that i've gotten on the long version was also like whoa the partners of one of the people who presented on the dev side um watched jonathan's full version before the presentation and was just like vaguely interested at the beginning and ended up watching the entire like 10 minutes and was like whoa that was really cool like it's pretty good it's it's tech tips yeah it's like real tech tips though um and they had also watched the the dev version but the dev version was um i think if you told people you were going to show them each one most people are going to default to expecting the dev version to be more interesting um so i think that's why the infra version being really interesting is getting so much attention it's not that the dev one wasn't interesting it was super interesting it was very good

1:19:38Luke Lafreniere:it had minecraft footage for attention there was a lot of attention tricks yeah which i i didn't

1:19:45Linus Sebastian:coach any of those.

1:19:46Luke Lafreniere:That was great, though. That was all them.

1:19:48Linus Sebastian:That was amazing. And I mean all three of them. Like, yeah.

1:19:52Luke Lafreniere:Here, do we actually... That was awesome. Do we... What channel were those published to? Was it Patet? I don't think I have access to Patet. No, it's Linus Media Group Internal. Not one. Oh, okay.

1:20:03Linus Sebastian:Oh, this is great. These are multi-upload posts, so you can see the different versions if you scroll down. Maybe I can.

1:20:12Luke Lafreniere:I don't see it. I can't scroll down. that's fine that's fine I just need let me see okay so this the development one just has one version that's why the infrastructure one has two versions so this will give you some idea of what apparently our internal presentations look like during our all hands meetings so showing the oh yeah these are some of the new user badges so here's some Minecraft footage for attention

1:20:46Luke Lafreniere:she's saying stuff during this time but you're not hearing it you're watching minecraft jk jk i was listening you're hearing it um so yeah this is that literally played on the projector at our all hands for 100 people um oh man what we are sometimes we're boring in corporate and then other times we're like still a really weird company like we had a we had a um a barbecue today in the rain with like axe throwing like what the fuck you know this was an initiative from our new like hr guy who's like i i would say a first impression of him no offense tim but would be like you know kind of stuffy and old-fashioned but like there was cornhole um i just i don't know what i thought it was cool cool way to kick off a long weekend too yeah yeah so we did like an extra long weekend which um yeah that was a that was a tim initiative he basically like brought it to me he's like here's the budget terry numbers for the for the friday early dismissal barbecue yeah okay he's actually a lot more charismatic than that but uh martina d said please release them to flow plane uh oh they'd need a scrub to make sure

1:22:13Linus Sebastian:that there's they wouldn't need to scrub they weren't intended to be shown and then linus just ripped it but uh that was probably fine um it's it's also like you know these people didn't necessarily sign up to be shown to the world they signed it to be shown internally and when they were making them initially that was the goal so it might be possible that we could do another pass

1:22:33Luke Lafreniere:and make them yeah maybe more maybe we're not committing anything now yeah and especially because these guys like have a lot of work to do and already put a lot of work into this and so and are already a fairly undersized team so like they're very busy i prefer the word talented sure they do a lot of output per person basically very talented um yeah yeah yeah um oh did did we actually do a com yet we did one did we do two yes you've done two we've done two oh sure should we pick another topic i honestly have zero memory of either of them nice that's how you know it's good because it sparks a good conversation yeah yeah i always feel good when you do a com for like an hour that does happen um yeah it makes me feel good yeah okay oh i'll get right because that means he curated a good one and yeah sometimes i get it wrong and you're like yeah 30 seconds and then we move on i'm like what we've done this before way to go dan you've done bad and you should feel bad i do all the time no no no too much now we're tripping over each other on the dan button again no this is fun cute uh all right amazon has decided that same day shipping is not fast enough they've started rolling out amazon now a service aimed at delivering your order in 30 minutes or less in a handful of american cities back in december and 15 minutes or less in parts of Brazil, Mexico, India, and the UAE.

1:24:17Luke Lafreniere:This service is now expanding to additional cities. It uses specialized micro-fulfillment centers, also known as dark stores, for the deliveries, and these sites can stock thousands of items closer to customers than Amazon's typical warehouses. The company said that 30-minute deliveries will be available 24 hours a day in most areas where the service is available. Prime members will pay a$3.99 fee for Amazon now and an additional$1.99 fee for orders below$15, while customers without a Prime membership will pay a$14 delivery fee along with an extra$4 for orders below 15 bucks. This is crazy. Like it's basically Uber Eats, but for like kind of anything on Amazon, I guess, that is popular enough that it's stocked in one of these micro-fulfillment centers.

1:25:08Linus Sebastian:Which is probably a lot of stuff considering if you look at Amazon statistics, it seems like people just sort of all buy the same.

1:25:14Luke Lafreniere:Sort of buy overall pick.

1:25:15Linus Sebastian:Yeah.

1:25:16Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, which, and you know what? We've built PCs using the overall pick, using the top rated, using the Amazon's -

1:25:24Linus Sebastian:What does overall pick mean?

1:25:25Luke Lafreniere:We did a whole video about it. I forget. I did my thing where I do a bunch of research and learn about it. I write a script, I host the video, and then that part of my brain withers and dies. and hopefully a new part grows in its place.

1:25:40Linus Sebastian:Last time we were talking very recently about how I was trying to learn something. I ended up watching my own video to try to learn it.

1:25:49Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, it was about the DirectX 12 and SLI stuff and Vulcan.

1:25:54Linus Sebastian:And I ended up watching the whole thing because I was like, oh yeah. I had no memory that you could SLI four of those cards after they turned off four-way SLI you could still do it but only for benchmarks like I had no idea that was a thing completely forgot that like just tons of stuff that's just gone and no figment of a memory of it it's just gone and then I can remember so many stupid things I've hosted like

1:26:25Luke Lafreniere:8 ,000 videos i regularly come across a video and go i have no recollection of that like at all at all and you know what sometimes that's the most fun way to enjoy it are you okay i had a very bad

1:26:45Linus Sebastian:realization uh ai generated videos being able to potentially like convince you that your past is different than it is. Oh, like gaslight you?

1:26:54Luke Lafreniere:Yeah.

1:26:58Luke Lafreniere:It's good news when I show you, Luke. Yeah, yeah, we're moving on. Let that part of your brain shrivel and die. Yeah.

1:27:07Luke Lafreniere:Anyway, you are pretty adamantly against using Amazon. Would you consider if you needed something right now, Amazon now, if you could get it in 30 minutes?

1:27:19Linus Sebastian:Depends how mission critical it is, but I mean. Okay, it's toilet paper. no you're on the toilet right now we have a bidet at home nice solid is it the ludwig one no oh okay

1:27:31Luke Lafreniere:just i got it before that some other one okay all right cool did you spring for heated yes yeah but

1:27:37Linus Sebastian:i sprang for heated before like north america got really into them and it wasn't that expensive

1:27:43Luke Lafreniere:and then they went really i haven't i haven't shopped for one recently are heated bidets i got

1:27:49Linus Sebastian:I got it before the COVID toilet paper rush. Oh, so you were like way ahead of the curve. Yeah. Got it. And then the COVID toilet paper rush happened and everyone went, oh, bidets. And then they went, I don't know. Maybe they've come back down. But like it's been naturally, if you follow that timeline, it's been years. So like I don't know. I just remember like talking to people about how it was good. And then they'll be like, oh, yeah, well, they're like way too expensive. and I was like, huh? Does Ludwig still do bidets? I don't think so.

1:28:24Luke Lafreniere:I mean, his site's still up. Oh, sold out. Sold out. Sold out. Okay, never mind. Doesn't do them anymore. Okay, so just, I don't know, buy a bidet. Oh, okay, Tushy still does them. They do know that there's a very different website. And you know what? It doesn't matter. The point is, where's a heated one? Oh, my God. I hate it when websites like this, it just makes me want to leave the website. I clicked on something. I was trying to look at your product and you popped up this whole page that just off. I am trying to use your website and look at your product. Shop by model. Oh my gosh. How many models of bidet do you need?

1:29:10Luke Lafreniere:Shop by feature. Warm water. Here we go. Oh my God. Go away. What just happened? I clicked warm water. Okay, now it goes. Dude, no. I am no longer showing this website because it's too obnoxious. Yeah.

1:29:24Linus Sebastian:Yeah, and my Amazon thing, to be clear, I try not to preach it to other people too much or anything, but I have my reasons. I try to go to practically anywhere else. Obviously, I try to make it smaller outfits, smaller stores directly from the company if I can is generally ideal. But sometimes it's not an option. But like I often would even rather go to like Best Buy. Just something. But yeah. The thing that drives me nuts is when there's a company that is just an Amazon company. They only sell through Amazon. That's very annoying. Because then it's like, well, I didn't need to find an alternative or get it from Amazon anyways.

1:30:21Luke Lafreniere:I needed an irrigation line adapter for my garden hose.

1:30:31Luke Lafreniere:I wanted it in 30 minutes. I would have done it because I had to wait like three days or something like that to get the stupid thing. And then that means that I had to go and manually water stupid hanging baskets.

1:30:43Linus Sebastian:And there wasn't like a Home Depot thing? I don't have time to go shop.

1:30:48Luke Lafreniere:I had to order it online. Can you order online from Home Depot? Yeah. Their shipping is pretty expensive in Canada, though. Like, it generally doesn't make a ton of sense. 3D print it. So the plastic one that I had before was exactly why it failed, though. So I wanted a brass one. But good idea, though. Good idea. I like where you're going with it.

1:31:13Linus Sebastian:It's way easier for distribution. I understand it's way easier for distribution. The elevator pitch portion of why I don't really like it is the mass crushing of small business, whether that be retail outlets that resale things or honestly just places making things. You look at people trying to make stuff in Western countries and the insane amounts of patent infringement that is on Amazon and Amazon's just complete blind eye to it happening. and then Amazon just watching what sells really well on their platform and then just making an Amazon basic. Sherlock all the things. And just completely crushing competition.

1:31:54They are ruining people's dreams.

1:31:58Linus Sebastian:It's like a very fancy way of saying it. But like shutting down small business, shutting down medium business, completely replacing, like somebody puts their life's work into a product and then Amazon just goes and there's an Amazon Basics version, making it the default for all the things, reorganizing their website to take out things like frequently bought with and basically only surfacing the top sellers in a category so that it is more well-tuned for them to do something like an Amazon Basics or more well-tuned for them to sell those top spots. It's you hear about what they do to their workers, is like just everything everything about it feels just really bad for society and everyone involved including all of the customers to me again you can pick your own battles it's all good does not bother me when other people use it or whatever I just I just try not to I try to put at least some amount of effort into into not

1:33:04Luke Lafreniere:everyone's got to have their own battle I I went to an event recently where I met, oh man, I hope I don't get her name wrong. Was it Maya Conservation? Maya, yeah, here we go. Here she is. Better than Timmy? Yeah, I don't know. So she talked at an event that I was at recently and she actually, it's really funny. She was here in Vancouver. She did a TED Talk. I was gonna say, didn't she do a TED Talk? Yeah, here it is. Super cool. Her thing is this animal sanctuary that probably the coolest thing about it is that humans don't go into it. No, I don't want to sign up. I don't know. Okay, whatever.

1:33:45Luke Lafreniere:The point is, because they don't have to accommodate parking lots and walkways and safety for humans and a gift shop and like all this crap. uh she's uh she's able to take all the money that comes in to her i forget how to how to pronounce it alveas sanctuary she's able to take all the money that comes into it and just spend it on supporting the animals and she's cool she's got these um she was explaining how she's kind of um uh like personified uh or she's she's created these sort of um uh what's it what's it called when you give human-like characteristics to an animal? Personification. Is it called personification?

1:34:31Luke Lafreniere:Help me out. If it's called something else, let me know. Alvaeus is apparently how it's pronounced. So yeah, she kind of personifies the animals. Anthropomorphic, is that it? Anthropomorphism? Whatever, one of those two things. I think. Either way. So people can give this cow that has a name and has kind of like a personality, like a treat, and she's raised like millions of dollars at this point. And it's super cool. And I think it's very easy to look at anyone, whether it's your personal cause of Amazon being kind of bad or her personal cause of animals and go, okay, well like, hey, Luke, why aren't you doing anything about animals?

1:35:12Luke Lafreniere:And Maya, why are you buying stuff on Amazon or whatever? But it's like, I feel like - Pick your own battles. She made a really good point at the end of her talk, which is just like, can we just, can we do something anything a little bit to just be like a little bit better in some way and and and get away from the attitude that is well i'm causing all this damage in this other place so it's it's therefore everything is fine therefore everything doesn't matter consumerism

1:35:38Linus Sebastian:under capitalism therefore i will abuse everything i can therefore nothing matters not so not in my

1:35:44Luke Lafreniere:opinion the way to go maybe maybe uh zach says i think you mean humanize yeah either way something basically she just uh she she she helps people form and i'm putting these are my words not hers but it's like almost form like parasocial relationships but instead of with her with like the animals at the sanctuary a cow who likes treats and want to support them and her theory is that if people like care a lot about this one wolf that's like super cool and has this great personality how do they know these details that when that when you know this type of wolf is now endangered, like critically endangered, that people will go, hey, no, not those.

1:36:23Luke Lafreniere:That's like my friend, the wolf that I really like and that I feel a personal connection to. And I just, I thought it was, I'm sorry, I'm completely butchering it. Just go watch her TED Talk. Okay, yeah, there's a live webcam. Okay, so you can't go there

1:36:37Linus Sebastian:and you can't like walk around. Oh, ads. Well, she'll take like influencers

1:36:42Luke Lafreniere:and streamers and stuff there just to help raise money for it.

1:36:46Linus Sebastian:But the general infrastructure for it,

1:36:47Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, the general infrastructure for the public doesn't have to be built so she can just spend everything on doing their conservation work. I just think it's super cool. That's sweet. Yeah, right? Animal ambassadors, that's what she calls them.

1:37:02Linus Sebastian:That's awesome.

1:37:03Luke Lafreniere:Anyway, yeah, go watch her TED Talk. Don't listen to my version of it. But I just had a chance to say hi to her and what a great job she did during her talk at the event that I was at. and Evan and Caitlin were actually the moderators for her like fireside chat. They did a great job too. I was just like, wow, you guys did a great job. That's a rough act to follow. I had to give my talk like right after her. I did my best. That could be pretty tough. Yeah. I mean, I'm a pretty good presenter, but it's just, yeah. It's always nice when you follow an easy act, you know, that's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

1:37:45Luke Lafreniere:um well what what else uh what else we got here what was that even a topic how did we start talking about that not a single clue unitry oh sponsors yeah let's do sponsors oh floatplane announcement thanks dan where the devil is the floatplane announcement well look we released two fan favorite ltd videos early on floatplane this week uh the tech houses i think this is actually the fourth video sammy uh but we we did another tech house video this time it's spring cleaning in the backyard of the tech house uh no the excavator is not clickbait we actually rented a little excavator so that we could tear down the shed uh move a bunch of like wood ties uh figure out the situation with the pond yes from my past life i do know how to operate an excavator fun fact very few people know that um and then also uh well okay he doesn't say which one the other one is classic sammy now we're going to release another video right now live on wanshow i'm going to go into the cms i'm going to release a video it's going to be great oh i'm going to use the beta version of the cms should i use the beta version luke uh no not for that no no not for that okay not for posting i guess i won't then uh it's oh it's another episode of setup doctor featuring our very own reese who you've probably seen in many of our videos as the production assistant for many other people's amd ultimate tech upgrades and other upgrades he's uh he's kind of an always uh always the bridesmaid never the bride of our upgrade series but he's finally finally getting his bride moment and i had two people internally so just like people who review out of the handful of people who review the video reach out to me and be like this is the funniest video we've done in ages i was like okay i really didn't actually notice it that much when we were shooting it was like a very chill shoot it was just like me david and reese who are are kind of recurring outside cast members of Upgrade Series.

1:39:59Luke Lafreniere:So David has been the writer for quite a few people's upgrades. And then Reese is often the production assistant slash set of additional hands on these shoots. And then I'm often there. So without having to carry the energy or like adapt to the energy of whoever the subject was, it was just kind of core crew. And we didn't really have anything to do. All we had to do was build a desk and then just like kind of organize a room. so we didn't really have much of an objective and apparently the just like vibes of it were like peak ltt i haven't actually watched it yet but i will get vibes yeah so definitely go go check that out so that video is live um finally we have a video that sammy is calling his magnum opus of floatplane exclusives tech roulette an actual original concept by sammy where you put two people head-to-head in tech trivia the loser gets a bullet in their nerf gun and has a chance to pop their full water balloon above their head this is probably going to be a recurring series and the first episode is linus v luke it's a jump 30 oh yeah perfect oh wait no that's not it I think I should be allowed to spin it.

1:41:17Luke Lafreniere:3, 2, 1.

1:41:19Linus Sebastian:Roll! I was actually pretty convinced I was going to go. Vesa.

1:41:27Luke Lafreniere:I think it's a party file. It's fine. I forget what it stands for anyway. Mostly me too. The S is standards. I know that. E is engineering. V is... Is it versatile?

1:41:40Linus Sebastian:Incorrect. Video Electronic Standard Association.

1:41:42Luke Lafreniere:Okay. All right.

1:41:44Linus Sebastian:All I got was the S and the A. Oh, you pull that back to the front. Okay. Ready? I think that's on. It's hard to tell. You're so far off. It's going to miss. You keep putting it off when I let go. So now it's going like, it'll probably hit it. Three, two, one.

1:42:06Luke Lafreniere:So lots of fun. We did three rounds. feel free to go check that out over on floatplane get all this and more at lmg.gg slash fp when alright what are we oh right I didn't do the sponsors the show is brought to you today by AMD this month's AMD ultimate tech upgrade was Nick Harris from the labs team if you haven't watched the video yet go check it out and give him some love it was low key one of the funniest ones we've ever done uh he already had a lot of computers um so we had to get a bit creative about actually upgrading it like look at all his computers these are all before we started um so anyway we we kind of solved some issues around his networking uh we did a small computer upgrade for him we set him up with a super cool test bench um and this video strikes a really great balance between being informative about tech and also just being pure chaotic entertainment and this is cool if you want to get an upgrade of your own amd is giving away a ryzen 7 9800 x 3d and rx 9070 xt bundle in the video description of that video so go go check it out luke amd has another question for us this month uh with gpus getting more powerful every generation is 4k gaming finally worth it or do you still think 1440p is the sweet spot for high refresh rate goodness

1:43:43Linus Sebastian:man i think this is gonna be such an unfortunate answer i mean yep the rest of the system is so much more expensive now that i think it just doesn't matter 1440 still reigns supreme because like with the amount more that you have to spend on your storage the amount more that you're gonna have to spend on your ram but the amount more that you have to spend on basically everything uh the overall we've talked about this before right if you want to look at the price of an of uh you know uh the performance per dollar of a gpu it might be more accurate to consider the performance per dollar of the entire system at the lower gpu versus the performance per dollar of the entire system against the higher end gpu and how that shifts and how that relation

1:44:32Luke Lafreniere:works i got them boys it's that continues to apply both perspectives are valid looking at the performance per dollar of just the card because if you already have an entire system yeah then that's the outlay that's what you're considering however when you're buying an entire system yeah the performance per dollar of the entire system is what actually matters and chasing 4k and you you might be interested in the performance per dollar of the delta like if i

1:45:01Linus Sebastian:sell the card that I have and then buy this new card it at the end the resulting price is this many dollars how many more frames does that give me um like that might be interesting to you no one

1:45:13Luke Lafreniere:asked me but I'm gonna give my answer anyway I said this seven years ago and I made that face that's a face that of me exists on the internet it got 5.1 million views because that's the message that resonated with a lot of people and I still stand behind it

1:45:37Luke Lafreniere:unless it is a priority for you. The difference now, seven years later, is that 4K gaming is good. Yeah. If you want to lay out that kind of money for it. Yeah.

1:45:54Luke Lafreniere:And DLSS 4.5, let's be real here. If you have a 4K monitor, which has gotten a lot more affordable since I made that video, okay, if you can run it at 1440p, then you can turn on DLSS 4.5 and you can also run it at 4K. So it's less dumb, but I still think that to my eye, a high refresh rate, high contrast. We're talking about gaming at a computer with your monitor at a reasonable distance. 1440p monitor is still the sweet spot and um especially for competitive and they did have the word competitive in their question for competitive 1440p is the max i'd go yeah i'd even still consider 1080p but i'd prefer not to 1440p is uh shout out counter-strike gamers playing at 720 and below nice nice uh the show is also brought to you by cape time and time again we see major telecom providers facing data breaches or worse surveillance scandals.

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1:48:01Luke Lafreniere:This is yet another really cool sponsor of ours that happens to not be in Canada. I was literally just looking it up. Yeah, I'm sorry. Come on. I know. Yeah, them and privacy.com are like two that I would immediately sign up for with my own personal hard-earned money immediately.

1:48:21Linus Sebastian:dude the phone number for verification thing

1:48:25Luke Lafreniere:that's not super cool

1:48:26Linus Sebastian:would be really nice

1:48:27Luke Lafreniere:that's super cool

1:48:29Linus Sebastian:uh yeah most cool credit card things and most cool mobile plan things just never come north of the border uh

1:48:43Luke Lafreniere:how long have we been live for holy crap we've done like three topics we dude we Dude, we have so many topics. What the crap is going on here? Okay, quick, burn through a couple topics. That's not going to help.

1:49:01Linus Sebastian:The new Steam Controller screams the Wilhelm scream, which I did not just do. If you drop it, if it's turned on, and if you're in big picture mode. That's cool. We have a short about it. You can check the short out on the YouTubes.

1:49:16Luke Lafreniere:here this is uh i can i can shamelessly just play it because it's my channel yeah audio is it seriously not on by default sorry oh it's but it but hold on no wait for it i'm unmuting it god okay ready apparently if you drop the steam controller there's a chance they can hear it yeah okay if they can hear it i'm happy yeah it's it's on now good good i wasn't expecting Good production value show. Apparently if you drop the Steam Controller, there's a chance that you'll get a Wilhelm scream out of it. I came to Elijah's house to drop his controller. What? Whoa, did it! First try.

1:49:59Luke Lafreniere:Oh, there we go. Okay, one in five.

1:50:05Luke Lafreniere:Okay, it's about one in four. Apparently if you drop the Steam Controller... Um, this short is doing numbers. And I was talking to Luke about this on the pre-show, but I'm just like, I don't know how to deal with this, man. Like, that was the lowest effort video that I have made probably in the last five years. It's getting more views than, like, Scrapyard Wars. Why do I try? Why do I try anymore?

1:50:35Linus Sebastian:There is something interesting in tech right now. there is a something interesting in tech right now look at look at your historical 1.1 yeah i mean that one's actually that one's actually taking off that one's achieving escape

1:50:52Luke Lafreniere:velocity very good yeah 315 yeah 3.4 yes yes same thing yeah yeah yeah i mean yeah no i i get it i

1:51:04Linus Sebastian:get it it's just like that is shorts views they don't really count yeah well except they're still

1:51:10Luke Lafreniere:measurable and comparable yeah yeah yes it's shorts versus shorts so he he's not wrong he's not wrong and i mean look you can say they don't count but i sample size of of not that many i went to a um i i've chaperoned a band event for one of my kids and the young kids know who i am and i pretty much promise you it ain't the long-form content yeah and so us having a foothold in shorts is us is us having that face time with that demographic of viewers we can't ignore it. We're sort of, you know, we're basically a product company at this point, but we're a media company, like at our core, at our foundation.

1:52:00Luke Lafreniere:And so we can't just look at shorts and go like, oh, who cares if we get 300 ,000 views or three and a half million views? You know, it doesn't matter. It's not real views anyway. No, we have to get out there in front of viewers and we've got to get them familiar with our style and with our content. And And we have to have a strategy there. And it's something that I'll admit that we've kind of struggled with. What now? Oh, hi, Josh in Fullpoint Chat in all capital letters.

1:52:25Linus Sebastian:Oh my God, it just made my controller scream.

1:52:28Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, you have to have big picture mode open if anyone missed that before. So big picture mode, it has to be on. And then if you drop it, it'll, yeah, it'll scream. Pretty funny. Looked like about one in four. I got it to scream three times in 11 or something like that.

1:52:43Linus Sebastian:The greatest phone ever is real. and also American. After numerous delays and even rumors of being canceled, Trump Mobile says the T1 phone will be shipping next week. We have a full video planned on this,

1:53:00Luke Lafreniere:so we won't comment too much. However, what we can do is we can watch this ad together. There's also a community note. We'll get to that. I don't know if you remember some of the earlier shenanigans around the T1 phone. But the first, I believe it was the first launch image was actually just a Photoshopped iPhone. Then they had an image of the supposed T1 phone that was a Photoshopped Galaxy phone in like a Spigen or Spigen case that was just like Photoshopped gold, but actually, or maybe the Spigen case was gold. I don't remember the details, But it was just like an image off of Spiggin's website, but like Trump phone or something.

1:53:48Luke Lafreniere:So there have been a lot of people. Yeah, the Spiggin logo was visible. I think I remember that. I think I remember that. There's been a lot of people looking at all of the obviously fake pictures of this phone and going, yeah, this thing is never going to ship. but apparently apparently something definitely not those initial uh renders because it's obviously not going to be an iphone something is apparently going to ship and i don't know what twitter is doing right now but i cannot play this oh there it goes t1 phone oh lordy um so this is apparently it, except readers added context to this video.

1:54:31Luke Lafreniere:Video is AI. US flag has 11, then 9 stripes. Back texture is inconsistent. That is just two of the things that are wrong with it. There's another really good moment a little bit later. Here, hold on, wait for it. There, here. What is happening here? What the, yeah. What is, is it on a Lazy Susan? Is it, what is going on right now? The brilliant display makes stream um i i put down a deposit ages ago i have no idea if i'm actually gonna get one necessarily because i who knows if they exist i'm obviously not gonna sign up for trump mobile service i'm in i'm in canada they don't even have service here they're they're using t-mobile for their um their mvno their but their mobile virtual network operator so they don't they don't have cell towers or anything and they don't uh manufacture phones they just um and the phone looking completely

1:55:26Linus Sebastian:different now than originally is crazy like i don't even recognize we're in the way but i don't even recognize this this the phone like here that doesn't yeah so what you can just buy a random

1:55:40Luke Lafreniere:samsung yeah because they the mobile carrier does work it's just an mvno on t-mobile oh you can buy iphones and stuff too okay yep sure the deals aren't good but like yeah i mean yeah who expected them to be um wild here i'm from phone original photo i'm gonna i'm gonna see if i can find the original photo uh yeah here we go here we go so it has changed um yeah that's what i remember in appearance multiple times this one was funny because this is just like what even is this yeah like that's clear this is clearly nothing that's not and i don't mean nothing like the phone brand i just mean that's not anything um yeah i think that's the that's that's most of the various iterations of it here's what was shown to the verge a while back so the finished version does seem to look pretty close to this and it has gone through two rounds of certification now So there is pretty credible evidence that this phone will be a real thing.

1:56:45Luke Lafreniere:Here's the Spiggin thing. Anyway, we're planning a full video on kind of the whole history of this. We actually got an interview with the Verge writer who's been like a dog on a bone on this. Every single week they have posted an update. They've requested comment from Trump Mobile, been like, hey, so what's going on with the phone? Because it's been delayed multiple times. Back when they announced it in, I think it was June of 2025, they said it was going to be shipping in September. And that's when I kind of went, well, this is obviously a complete scam and will never ship because there's no way that you could ship anything resembling a mobile phone in like three or four months or whatever and they didn't it looks like it's going to be more like 11 months oh here's the spiggin thing lawsuit incoming they humorously tweeted because this is a this is an image of supposedly the trump t1 phone that still see it still has their logo on it like it's just wild the whole thing is just an absolute clown show and it'll be it'll be hilarious to see what we ultimately get delivered um cartoon brat says i've been keeping track of this saga through uh penguin z apparently um

1:58:20Luke Lafreniere:So, good luck, everybody. ByEast1 says, the Trump phone is definitely shipping in September. We just don't know which September or if it's in this dimension. 603 says, I gotta say, Linus, I do not care about this news. Like, even if it sucks, I don't care.

1:58:37Linus Sebastian:It's funny.

1:58:38Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, I mean...

1:58:38Linus Sebastian:Sometimes you just gotta laugh at stuff.

1:58:40Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, it's... It's just... It's... What else are we supposed to do at this point, sir? Or ma 'am? like uh you know the the head of state of the world's largest economy it launched a scam phone it's definitely interesting if nothing else having a head of state be super active in business

1:59:10Linus Sebastian:while serving is very interesting um wasn't there something with like a peanut farm and some previous president? Oh, I don't know. President. Oh, yeah. Yeah, some. Forced to sell or something. Was that George Bush Sr.? I have no idea. Who was it? Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter. Okay, not forced to sell. He had to put in a blind trust. Yeah. Oh, it's not even my country's stuff.

1:59:34Luke Lafreniere:I think for him, blind trust did not mean my sons are doing it. It's a greater degree of separation. Yeah. Zen Thoxon, though, brings up something that is not in the dock that I'm super excited about. The new Sony Xperia looks so freaking amazing. And because Google apparently is making moving the back button part of core Android, I am like, I think I'm going Xperia. Are we going to be Xperia bros? Dude, headphone jack, micro SD, flagship phone, all yours for the low, low price of, I think it's like$1 ,800 US dollars. US! Yeah.

2:00:14Linus Sebastian:Whoa! does it cook uh i don't know does it yes the xperia 1 8 price hold on here here here here here let me look it up let me look it up no notch uh which is my favorite feature it's so expensive dan are you getting one no i just i just got this seven yeah i still owe you

2:00:35Luke Lafreniere:my six stop letting me forget fifteen a hundred euro oh okay what what what about it cheap what's

2:00:45Linus Sebastian:cool?

2:00:46Luke Lafreniere:Everything. Sony camera.

2:00:48Linus Sebastian:Pull up a GSM arena and have a look through.

2:00:51Luke Lafreniere:Sure.

2:00:52Linus Sebastian:Okay, what is its name exactly? Sony Xperia 1V111. Seriously?

2:00:59Luke Lafreniere:The Xperia 1 8. But the 8 is in Roman numerals. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it has a 1 in front of it. There's the 1 and the 5, and the 1 is the better 1, and then it has Roman numerals.

2:01:11Linus Sebastian:So it's like Arabic 1 and then Roman 8. So, yeah.

2:01:14Luke Lafreniere:Glassfront and back. Victus 2 on the front. Bro, it's just too grand Canadian. Don't worry about it. IP68. Okay. 120Hz display. 1080p class. Okay.

2:01:27Linus Sebastian:Sorry, I'm interrupting you again. My bad. I went to the Sony store. I can see the two grand Canadian in the background. They're like, do you want$5?

2:01:38Luke Lafreniere:Hey, listen. Hey, listen. I've done more for less.

2:01:44Luke Lafreniere:You can save the$5 to wipe your tears

2:01:47Linus Sebastian:Yeah, sorry, I just thought that was really funny I can just tell that you're gonna like Oh man, it's only$256 at$2 ,000 Oh my god

2:01:58Luke Lafreniere:Yes, but you can put

2:01:59Linus Sebastian:The one terabyte is$2 ,600 Are you gonna let me finish? You can put an SD card in it

2:02:04Luke Lafreniere:So you can get the cheap one and put a one terabyte SD in it Cheap is a word that I don't know if we should use You can get the poor people one and put an SD card in there. That's crazy, Kate. It's so expensive. Too spicy, Dan. I'm obviously being facetious. What is wrong with you? Okay, you're not letting me finish, Luke. You're not letting me finish. Android 16 with up to four major Android updates. Up to? Don't worry about it. Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Elite Gen 5. So cutting edge chip. So that's good. 16 gigs RAM. God, they look good. Wow. Triple camera system, all 48 megapixels, all the things.

2:02:44Luke Lafreniere:I don't see this. Selfie camera is 12 megapixels with SDR support. Stereo speakers. That's good. It better be Wi-Fi 7 tri-band. Okay. Oh, dude. Oh, side-mounted fingerprint. Oh, take me now. Oh, oh. That's pretty fantastic. They look really good. I told you they're good. Do you get it? I get naked for side fingerprint scanner.

2:03:15Linus Sebastian:The like stonewashed looking finish? I will disrobe for you, Sony. Looks fantastic.

2:03:21Luke Lafreniere:5 ,000 milliamp hour battery, 30 watt wired charging, 15 watt wireless, reverse wireless bypass charging. Dude, bypass charging, underrated feature, very cool.

2:03:31Linus Sebastian:Bro, the ability to plug in the headphones is so sick.

2:03:35Luke Lafreniere:You guys get it? I'm glad you get it. I've always gotten it, Dan. I just, they haven't had the ability to move my freaking back button, which I need. That's stupid. I have small hands, Dan. And we're all just going to have to deal with that. Up to two days of battery life. I mean... Four years of health battery? What is that? I think that just means that...

2:03:56Linus Sebastian:Based on simulations of repeated USB charging and discharging with the same type of battery, battery health depends on usage.

2:04:02Luke Lafreniere:Yeah.

2:04:03Linus Sebastian:So up to four years of two days worth of battery.

2:04:05Luke Lafreniere:I mean, if a device doesn't have like a solid four years of the battery not sucking, then that's pretty terrible. I'll play Pokemon Go. I'll torch that. Okay, that's fair. Oh, whoops. Okay. I mean, I was going to say, I bet I could get two days out of my Fold 7 if I really tried. I don't know if I could get two days, but like I'm at 71 % today right now. Like I feel like Android battery life, as long as you're careful about which apps you install and how many notifications you allow has actually been pretty good for a while now.

2:04:39Linus Sebastian:This phone is torched. I have done effectively like nothing on my phone today. I was desktop the whole time at 64%. I didn't open Pokemon Go. I didn't do anything.

2:04:49Luke Lafreniere:All right.

2:04:50Linus Sebastian:64%. The battery on this, if I could do like a battery life assessment, it's done. Which is like, okay.

2:04:58Luke Lafreniere:It's not... So pass-through would be great for you then. Maybe even worth 2 ,000 Canadians... Sorry. I couldn't even finish the sentence.

2:05:11Linus Sebastian:Oh, man. That's so much money for a phone. Yeah. This is just it. Do they have another phone this generation that isn't insane? No, you can have my last generation one. Okay, look at this. Look at this video. Look at the finish. They're really pretty. It looks really nice. Yeah.

2:05:28Luke Lafreniere:I want one. I still often feel that way about phones. I want one. I really want one, dude.

2:05:33Linus Sebastian:What phone? It's a, it's an eight pro, but, but it's not, I don't, I do not think it's the eight pros fault. I have done. No, we know Sony people. Unnatural things with this.

2:05:44Luke Lafreniere:I mean, I'm already trying to convince Sony to send over a BVM 3110. I don't think, uh, I had Sony sign my phone. You had Sony sign your, okay, sorry. What story time? At LTX, we had a Sony booth. Yeah. And I went, oh my God, I love your phones. Can you sign my phone? And I had all of them sign it with their Sharpie. That's actually pretty sweet. And then I also met them. What's the one in Vegas that we do in January? CES. CES. I also found a bunch of them at a party and was like, sign my phone. And they liked that. They thought it was weird and really enjoyed it. It is weird. Yeah. They remembered it.

2:06:20Luke Lafreniere:That's cool. Why do you want this?

2:06:22Linus Sebastian:Which? What is this for?

2:06:23Luke Lafreniere:Color correction? Oh, okay. It's just the coolest monitor on the face of the earth. What does it do? It's a real monitor. What does it not do, Luke?

2:06:30Linus Sebastian:I don't know anything.

2:06:33Luke Lafreniere:Give me the tips. It is the god king of displays. Why? Because it takes any input in any color space with functionally perfect accuracy. I love it. It's the room temperature room of monitors. Yeah. It's the room temperature room. Yeah. It's like the reference. You don't see all the awards?

2:06:58Linus Sebastian:I see the awards!

2:06:59Luke Lafreniere:Yeah.

2:07:01Linus Sebastian:My God. She's thick. Oh, I like buttons. I like knobs. I'm getting sold. Wow, that is a lot of crazy inputs. Okay.

2:07:10Luke Lafreniere:It's... Until you've seen it, you've never seen content. Wow. It's, um... It's like, uh... Sheesh. It's like putting on glasses. when you needed glasses and seeing the world for how it was supposed to look

2:07:31Linus Sebastian:4 000 nits peak brightness i love trying to sell yeah i love trying to sell monitors through like video that someone's watching on another monitor because you have to try to like

2:07:41Luke Lafreniere:try somehow to explain the difference but there's you can't really no but i mean this is a pretty good representation because you can you can see that instead of blowing out the details you can like see the light yeah you can see the light luke and the color oh the color oh oh i'm getting

2:08:00Linus Sebastian:chills just thinking about it it's beautiful so what what will you use this for to make a video

2:08:05Luke Lafreniere:about it and then i don't know i mean they're probably not going to let me keep it so you're gonna game on it i just you that's fast pixel response you bet your ass i'm gonna game on it I mean like is this going to become your monitor at home I think that probably the production team would riot if I took this home selfishly that's why I mentioned like so they would use it for color correction I guess oh we could use it as a playback monitor for you guys at Wansett jeepus no piss off every single department and us probably yeah no i just i just want to make a video about it because it's so cool and it's uh it's better than anything that exists all right yeah it's it's pretty cool have you seen reference monitors before linus yeah uh we did a video on one from uh flanders a little while back and that was flanders scientific yeah that was quite eye-opening for me and this is this is a new this is a new generation um of of reference display and it's it's it's unreal dude i i've seen it in person once now and i just um we have this unlisted footage on short circuit that is just like hdr footage shot in like this weird treehouse thing in the woods and i i put it on the reference monitor and i was just like i've never seen this footage before not like this like Like, it's just, oh, it's like, it's like.

2:09:44Linus Sebastian:And even they can have a normal power connector. Yeah.

2:09:49Luke Lafreniere:Amazing.

2:09:50Linus Sebastian:It's. My favorite things about it is that it has buttons and knobs and a normal power connector.

2:09:55Luke Lafreniere:It's like an experience I had fairly recently where listening to a particular headphone was like hearing familiar songs for the first time.

2:10:04Linus Sebastian:Fairly recently.

2:10:05Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. Is this a. so unitry built an absolute unit of a mech check this out unitry is kind of a crazy company yeah um a and w canada you've already got me like i'm gonna go i'm gonna go eat there probably this weekend just chill um freaking what yes that has to be like a seat yeah it is a seat or you cannot you can also operate it with nobody in it or you can get in it oh wow it just supports itself

2:10:44Linus Sebastian:while you clamber into it

2:10:45Luke Lafreniere:go watch the video this is Unitree's story let's let them tell it but I said recently on WAN show that there's a certain North American company that seems to be betting its entire future on humanoid robots the battle's already lost like i can't believe how affordably unitree is making its robots accessible have you have you looked at the price of the mech yet okay cool so obviously it's a lot of money obviously yes but their humanoid robots have already like leapfrogged many other competitors in terms of accessibility, in terms of price per performance. How much would you guess that that mech costs, just based on the little that you've seen of it, and with a little bit of information, it being strong enough to punch cinder block walls over?

2:11:48Luke Lafreniere:It can walk on not just two legs, it can also walk on four legs, and can be operated both with and without a pilot. What would you guess that something like that costs?

2:11:59Linus Sebastian:That would be north of 100k. I have no context at all for any pricing of any of this stuff.

2:12:12Linus Sebastian:Part of me is going like north of$250 ,000, but then it's unitary. So I'm trying to game the system a little bit. If I had no context of the company, I think I'd be going north of$250 ,000. Because I have a modicum, not that much, but a modicum of context of the company.

2:12:27Luke Lafreniere:What if I told you Boeing made it? you know or like northrop grumman or whatever like one of the big like military guys 750 if it's american military complex i'd jump there like immediately no matter what what do you think unitree is charging for it 199 okay it's actually closer to your initial okay okay but you can like buy it apparently for 650 ,000 US dollars, which to me seems pretty cheap. I think your estimates for what an American military industrial complex company would is. It's probably low. You're probably on the low side. Now it's probably 1.5 to 2 million per at least. Apparently none sold.

2:13:19Luke Lafreniere:I mean...

2:13:22Linus Sebastian:That's the reason why I think it's so expensive Is there's probably like four Where would you even If they were mass making this I bet you they could get it cheaper

2:13:32Luke Lafreniere:Unitree Mecca Can you even buy it yet? Unitree Mecca I don't actually I don't actually see it For sale yet GD01 Are you guys sure that nobody bought it yet? cory says i mean nobody could buy it launches gdo1 starting from okay it's like a giant transformer come to life a blah blah blah if you have 650 000 and don't buy this giant mecha robot what are you doing uh does anyone actually have like a an availability timeline for this thing oh my god this site what just happened i was scrolling and then the whole article went away well anyway no yeah i know good luck with that yeah is it is it indexed on google yet important question asks on a cash uh who actually even needs this robot what would you actually use it for knocking over unsecured cinder block walls is not a valid use case i could see uh okay okay oh here i could see like a performance spectacle like arena or something having one of these like if i was like a monster truck traveling show or something i could see this mecca being like part of our like intermission show monster truck over or it does something you know or we we like we jump a truck over it or whatever like i could see it being a like a fancy set piece um digital b11 says construction maybe i give it another like 10 20 years and then yeah i could i could totally see something like this being used as just like an avatar style like you know like just grab stuff and move it around or whatever but not not today not today

2:15:26Linus Sebastian:uh what else we got cranes do be pretty good for that even because of like clearing obstacles this is true cranes are cranes are like pretty good you don't always need to move like a whole

2:15:38Luke Lafreniere:pallet of whatever it is though and sometimes it might be sometimes you need to go like down

2:15:42Linus Sebastian:into a pit that doesn't have a ramp oh definitely like there's there's i think you'll i don't think

2:15:49Luke Lafreniere:it's going to be instead of a crane yeah i think this will be in addition to a crane yeah um forklift also do be pretty good sir soy descent says as an oil field knuckle boom operator this would be a way to disassemble structures now that's interesting so for construction yes crane for deconstruction strong mecca actually may be pretty useful yeah okay sure that makes sense now wily giraffe says to unload the crane oh yeah actually that's like super valid like the final the the last mile you know like the last more so the last few meters carrying something with this could be very practical um what else uh beggy says 650 000 us dollars just for a set piece sounds like someone has fu money yeah i don't think there's gonna be a lot of that if you're if you're using it to make money and it's like you're the only place where someone can come see or you charge people, like if you charged people$1 ,000 for the experience of trying it and you could manage to make a viable business model out of that, you only have to put 650 people in it before you get your investment back.

2:17:05Luke Lafreniere:Like it's, I could see some commercial use of it possibly making sense.

2:17:11Linus Sebastian:If I had more context, I'm on the RoboStore official partner of Unitree now. Yeah. And I'm seeing some of the prices of some of the things. I think I would have been more accurate. Yeah, I could tell you. I think I would have done the shift. I didn't have much context for it.

2:17:28Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I think, like, what was Tesla saying that they anticipated Optimus was going to sell for when they were doing their, like, revenue projections? I thought they said 100K. Optimus. I mean, they've thrown different numbers around.

2:17:41Linus Sebastian:But I also have no idea. And I also lightly based it off of the Optimus being 100K thing, but I don't know what it's supposed to cost.

2:17:49Luke Lafreniere:Projects the eventual retail price of Optimus, humanoid robot will be between twenty thousand and thirty thousand dollars at mass scale according to ai overview um and i mean like good luck with that but part of that problem is the whole mass

2:18:02Linus Sebastian:scale thing that's what i was saying like if unitry's made like four of those of course they're going to cost that much or way more but if they're trying to go through like mass manufacturing it

2:18:11Luke Lafreniere:okay they have their own store cool uh i got it meanwhile unitry has already leapfrogged them in terms of price to performance like it's kind of comical that um anyone is taking that kind of pricing estimate seriously uh where is i don't think this is a store i think it's just their official site yeah i don't see the i'm not getting the pop-up to translate the page i don't know oh

2:18:39Linus Sebastian:just go uh the the dots top right dots and then most of the way down is it there is yeah English

2:18:48Luke Lafreniere:hello English there you go there we go so I will just I will literally just I've never tried to find it I just reload the page and then usually it comes up yeah okay user square action library where the bloody heck are the I don't think this is a store

2:19:08Linus Sebastian:I think it's like you have bought the thing and now you need to like do stuff with it place

2:19:15Luke Lafreniere:oh interesting you can like get yeah actions and stuff oh that's kind of cool yeah i have not i've not played around with a unitree robot yet i should i i want to there's ones on the robo store that look pretty cool or i shouldn't say i haven't played around with them at all i did fight one

2:19:35Linus Sebastian:there's one on sale right now what you got the g1 yep the low low price of uh 10 of those phones nice solid um i think they have a uh i think they have a new one coming that looked

2:19:53Luke Lafreniere:pretty exciting so um is it is it this one um i can't remember it came up in um it came up in

2:20:03Linus Sebastian:writer's meeting a little while ago three kilogram arm load so you can do a lot of like chores around the house like that but sort of not really not a ton more you could do the dishes

2:20:18Luke Lafreniere:i mean well oh sure with that strength of like motors yes but not with the dexterity that they have now ah yeah and like the capability they have now i was specifically only talking about its ability to like bear load yeah sure i did this though this was fun yeah didn't you win this spoilers oh so this is the control scheme oh we made it look a lot more exciting in the edit than it um really was but not many people watched this video this did not resonate i did i thought it was kind of a fun video but anyway i think it's like space travel i guess i'll just drop steam controllers instead yep apparently i think it's like space travel if people aren't involved it's like yeah but i was involved yeah but you were just outside oh so you

2:21:13Linus Sebastian:want me to actually boxing that guy it probably would have gotten a bunch of views i see well

2:21:19Luke Lafreniere:yeah i know float plane crowd of course you guys watched it you guys watch all the things but it's the it's the broader like youtube audience that just did not engage with it finally draft i'd pay five dollars to watch it okay all right so now now hold on a second oh my god if we could raise 20 grand for me to fight a g1 i bet we could raise 650 grand for me to fight a mecca oh i mean it would break you

2:21:50Linus Sebastian:but i what a way to go how how would it be to knock over an unsupported cinder block wall uh i mean it would it would it would be hitting pretty hard like if you got hit by something that

2:22:04Luke Lafreniere:size that was moving with enough speed and coordination to knock over suck yeah it would not be good yeah like it would like break your bones maybe like if if they were your face bones maybe oh i don't think that's a maybe sir i think that's a pretty solid yeah it would break your

2:22:23Linus Sebastian:break your face well it depends like is this thing hitting

2:22:30Linus Sebastian:i'm losing the physics terms for this

2:22:35Linus Sebastian:moment of action is stuck in my head but it's like can it can it like do this in order to push the cinder block wall over or is it like

2:22:45Luke Lafreniere:oh like uh like uh like a momentary application yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah because that's what

2:22:51Linus Sebastian:is going to break your bone, right? Impact force, impulse force, kinetic momentum. Is it more of a push? Yeah. Is it more of a push or is it more of a strike?

2:23:01Luke Lafreniere:It's in the video? Okay. Let's find it. Alright, here. We're just going to cheat and watch it. Okay, ready? Yeah. Oh, hold on, hold on. No, I went to the wrong spot.

2:23:09Linus Sebastian:Because I am kind of interested.

2:23:11Luke Lafreniere:Okay.

2:23:11Linus Sebastian:You're interested in me fighting it? Notice how high up the wall they interacted with? Yeah, like there's a lot of different things that can influence this.

2:23:18Luke Lafreniere:Hold on, hold on. Here we go, here we go.

2:23:22Linus Sebastian:yeah okay that's a strike that is a strike but it's also like the very very tippy top of a very tall and thin wall it's not it's not that it's not really cool that would break your bone that's not really cool that would break your that would break your jaw it's not that it's not really cool for sure so it's not really cool i just i wouldn't want to get hit by it no i'm not saying i want to

2:23:42Luke Lafreniere:get hit by it yeah like it it it struck it it did not push it over that we can say for sure and yes it was very high up you guys are 100 right um all right what else we got today oh dan wants me to do more sponsors now guess what dan no owned okay got him owned cyber security tip of the day install a russian language pack on your computer we were talking about Lori wired a little while ago and she's, she's super based. Um, so I was just reading a tweet from her. Um, earlier this week, Microsoft threat intelligence posted to Twitter that they were investigating the mistral AI. Uh, how the devil did I pronounce this?

2:24:34Luke Lafreniere:Uh, Oh, geez. I've only read it. Pipey. Sure. Package. Uh, I'm going to go with PP V 2.4. compromise. In their post, they noticed that the attack avoids Russian language environments. Lori Wired retweeted the post with, The most low effort, high reward thing that you can do for security is installing the Russian language pack. Not even joking. It's ridiculous how often this prevents execution. This was also something that was noted by Brian Krebs previously with ransomware samples. Discussion question, Luke do we need to install the Russian language pack on all work systems immediately

2:25:16Linus Sebastian:as far as my language goes or as far as my understanding goes we're probably fine but it's not a bad idea it's not a terrible idea it might also be super freaking annoying why though

2:25:30Luke Lafreniere:because you can install a language pack and then just never look at it or think about it again is that one of those

2:25:34Linus Sebastian:ones where it can change no the language pack wouldn't change your keyboard would it change your keyboard?

2:25:38Luke Lafreniere:nope and you can just set windows to your primary language being what it is but they'll just apparently these malwares will just be like oh is Russian maybe do not install whatever I'm not going to try and do a Russian accent in Soviet Russia malware installs you whatever don't worry about it so I just wanted to throw this out there for the WAN show watching people According to Lori and Brian Krebs and also Microsoft Thread Intelligence, install a Russian language pack, which back in the day used to be something that you had to pay for. But nowadays is something that you can just go into Windows Update and you can just select a language pack and install it.

2:26:25Luke Lafreniere:And apparently it will reduce your exposure to cybersecurity threats, which seems like a zero hassle, high reward potentially thing to do.

2:26:41Linus Sebastian:And I can't wait for people to start getting viruses because they start Googling Russian language back for Windows. Okay, just get it in Windows Update. okay advanced options maybe

2:27:01Linus Sebastian:I don't really use windows much anymore

2:27:04Luke Lafreniere:sorry it's not windows update it's in time and language add a language and then you just go for there you go

2:27:14Luke Lafreniere:it's that easy it's that fast go for it hey here's another cool one we had an ltt labs article go up i think it was either today or yesterday sick um they're all sick what's up with ups we have one since with ups's um our company has always had many ups's around for the convenience and business case of not suddenly losing a ton of work thank you lucas that is a very matter of fact observation um so blah blah blah etc we We want to check them out further, but have been wary of connecting them to any measurement equipment considering the high voltages involved. Despite that, we're throwing caution to the wind to check out some UPSs from around the office.

2:28:03Luke Lafreniere:So it's not a comprehensive look at which UPS is the best UPS, but it's more of a laying the groundwork for what are they, what do they do, what might be characteristics of one that could be more desirable. And it's kind of like a primer on us taking the time to grab some measurements, make some cool visualizations, and maybe expand on it further if this is something that people are interested in learning more about. The first thing that I said when I saw Lucas's preliminary work on it was like, oh, that should be an LTT video like we always say on LTT you should have a UPS we never tell you which one to buy because I've never been comfortable enough other than saying like yeah I don't know get an APC or an OptiUPS or an Eaton like it'll probably be fine like any of the big three brands are probably okay but I don't actually know which one is better or like how much you have to spend to get like a good

2:29:09Linus Sebastian:one I don't know if we're actually doing it we do we do lots of different things and we change our mind and direction often but i was talking to lucas in relation to this article about how scrapyard wars used to be such a nightmare here because you and i would test in the offices and be working on our systems in the offices then have to come out into the warehouse usually the workshop set but let's just say warehouse in general and like you know benchmark them against each other and then they would start failing and you and i would both always swear that our systems were stable then we'd go back inside to work on them and they'd be stable again the biggest one

2:29:46Luke Lafreniere:was when it happened with austin evans yes his system was apparently stable when running off of a ups and then well it was stable when running off of the wall power in the office was it okay

2:29:57Linus Sebastian:and then was stable when running off a ups in the warehouse but not when running off of the wall power that's right okay yeah so i was i was i was poking and being like it could be kind of interesting to go check out those plugs because i doubt they've changed much uh yeah i don't think that transformer has ever been replaced i doubt it so i'm assuming that the in-office ones are still yeah better because we always refer to it as like dirty power and that was enough for me to understand that power bad this power good but that's it i don't understand beyond that really

2:30:33Luke Lafreniere:what's going on yeah it's the like purity of the sine wave no like i get i get the vague concept how long of a how much of a delay there is in the switch over to battery power like there's a bunch of things that like why is it better in there and worse out there um i think those two spaces are running off of different transformers because that office space is two blended units and one of the transformers is more loaded than the other one if i recall correctly it was just when we were

2:31:02Linus Sebastian:converting it rod said and i had a crazy boot issue during scrapper wars and all of a sudden it started working yeah yeah like there's something going on well we that set that set

2:31:14Luke Lafreniere:has a ups that lives on it permanently now yeah so the power to the table is always running through ups now so we haven't had any problems in a long time but yeah i'd be very curious man maybe maybe if the ups content goes well we can move into a building transformer content so we can find the best building transformer and replace yeah probably not for the seven people that'd be interested yeah i mean hey like if i was a contractor then i'd be very interested to know um how bad the cheap the cheap uh transformer that i'm still definitely going to use is that's the problem anyway go check it out at ltt labs.com and we've even uh launched an article

2:31:54Linus Sebastian:since then oh what seven hours ago i missed that what's the what's the new one two is better than

2:32:00Luke Lafreniere:one oh on the b60 you knew about this one you might just not have known the time uh because

2:32:04Linus Sebastian:it released today yeah there's the labs articles are coming strong and fast so so check them out

2:32:11Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, this thing's cool. It's been a long time, a long time since I've seen a dual GPU card like this.

2:32:20Linus Sebastian:Intel Arc Pro B60 dual 48 gig turbo.

2:32:24Luke Lafreniere:Turbo.

2:32:25Linus Sebastian:I like that turbo's in there. That's sick.

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2:33:54Luke Lafreniere:So that means you can show off your personality with GIFs and videos overlaid atop of your gameplay. Plus with premium, you can stream to multiple platforms and unlock an unlimited number of scenes. It can even be used for things like business presentations or virtual meetings. So don't wait, go to lmg.gg slash xSplitWan to try it for free today, or use code WANSHOW30 to save 30 % off your first subscription. Speaking of streaming and subscriptions and stuff, Elijah came into my office in like a major huff over, apparently there's some drama with like the plugins for Twitch chat, like stuff happening on the stream or something like that.

2:34:34Luke Lafreniere:Does anyone else have any context for this? No?

2:34:37Linus Sebastian:Not even slightly. I have no idea what you're talking about.

2:34:41Luke Lafreniere:Is it?

2:34:42Linus Sebastian:What's Twitch?

2:34:45Luke Lafreniere:Stream elements. Is that it? Stream elements? Okay.

2:34:50Linus Sebastian:Stream elements drama. stream elements is stream elements in trouble stream elements shutting down

2:34:58Luke Lafreniere:yeah yeah stream elements and talks with potential acquirers to avoid impending bankruptcy and he was like pretty upset about it because apparently the alternative to it is like not very good or something and a lot of people are like oh well i would have given more money to stream elements if i'd known that they needed money but then like they clearly didn't but then like stream elements apparently raised like and this is from elijah so i don't know if this is true but they raised 100 million dollars and they've burned through that in the last like three or four years so i don't know how they managed to burn through that much money doing like i don't know things that like happening on your screen with twitch chats um i mean i guess the api cost would probably be reasonably high there's but like the whole thing seems like uh seems like a giant boatload of fail so feel free to go look into that if you want a rabbit hole but it's not it's not in our notes today because it's not good news when in other good news though mit researchers have revived a 40 year old triangular zipper concept that is now made possible by 3d printing researchers at mit's Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory built the Y-Zipper, a three-sided zipper that snaps three floppy 3D printed arms into a rigid triangular tube using a flex-rigid transition mechanism enabling the zippers to interlock.

2:36:27Luke Lafreniere:The concept dates back to 1985, patented by MIT professor William Freeman, but manufacturing couldn't be done until modern 3D printing caught up. It works because triangles are inherently rigid. So same principles like bridges, trusses, and cranes. Software lets users design what the zipped shape becomes. And you can make a straight rod, an arch, a coil, or screw-like twists. So come... I'm not going to lie.

2:36:54Linus Sebastian:I don't really understand... Check this out. Oh my God. What for? And I would love to see an application of it. It's really cool. Yeah, here we go.

2:37:05Luke Lafreniere:Here we go. the Y zipper. Oh, there's some cool examples. Luke's first question. Why?

2:37:15Linus Sebastian:Why? There is a pretty cool example at like one minute-ish. Almost one minute. 50 seconds. Uh-huh. The tent? Yeah. You just kind of zip down the rigid poles?

2:37:31Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. It's kind of neat. I don't know, man. It seems pretty cool.

2:37:36Linus Sebastian:Stuff like this is just neat. I'm not saying like it has to have like a really strong reason, but I would just love to see someone find like a really good application for it just to see what they do.

2:37:46Luke Lafreniere:So the entire system, arms and slider, is 3D printed from Kalman polymers. They tested PLA for better load bearing and TPU for more flexibility. And the video demo includes an adjustable wrist cast that can be tightened or made loose easily, mechanical blooming flower for art and design, a quadruped robot with legs that retract, lowering the robot's body to get it under obstacles in front of it, and as rods to deploy a tent. Our discussion question is, if a 40-year-old zipper concept can be revived today, what other failed or forgotten historical patents do you think are waiting for modern tech to bring them to life?

2:38:25Luke Lafreniere:Let's break out Leonardo's drawings, dude. I know, right? Let's get it done. I think probably my favorite my favorite old

2:38:40technology

2:38:41Luke Lafreniere:idea that didn't work out is this thing this thing is crazy yeah and this is a I think this is I think this is the video yeah yeah this is a great video and you should go watch it because this thing was real the why this was working the why for this one was efficiency right because you

2:39:02Linus Sebastian:have less wheels on the ground so there's less friction uh no it was cost well because yeah

2:39:08Luke Lafreniere:it's uh it's cheaper to lay a single rail oh than two i thought it was like effectively fuel conservation uh no no not that it was it was the initial laying of the track and the way that they do like cool animations and everything for how all of this worked um like you can here you can see like hints as to sort of how the thing worked yeah i'm not going to show you everything it used like pneumatics and stuff it was so flipping cool you guys should go watch this video on primal space uh incredible video but pretty much the reason it doesn't work is it used uh to self-balance it used a giant spinning mass that's like okay yeah a lot of energy yeah yeah scary amount of energy

2:39:59Linus Sebastian:so the opposite of what i was thinking because now you have to spin this giant freaking thing um it's more just like if anything goes wrong yeah uh train crash now there's this enormous

2:40:10Luke Lafreniere:mass flying around yeah yeah hey um someone was talking about gyroscopically stable things i am probably getting my motorcycle in like a week oh or two there you go maybe two the um the part that was supposed to arrive i think i gave you guys an update on this a little while ago the part that was supposed to arrive was like cnc'd overseas and the guy calls me um earlier this week and he goes i like i texted him he's like hey do you have time for a call which is never good news and he goes look the part that i've been waiting for like for two months to finish this project it arrived and the hole for like the ignition is in the wrong spot it doesn't work and i was like oh well like how complicated is this part like i have like a forty thousand dollar cnc and like a handful of operators for it he's like you got to be me i'm like yeah no no like i got my guys and like we've got like a like i think it's like five axis or something he's like you gotta be f***ing sh***ing me and I'm like yeah no I mean do you want me to just put you in touch with one of my guys and you can like show them the part and like so Sebastian from the Creator Warehouse team I was like hey look just like I don't know give me like your contractor rate this is not work so you know it's not work so whatever we'll work it out outside of work but like is this something that you want to that you're able to tackle he's like oh yeah sure so he so so like Vance went and got it so that was one day by the next day Sebastian had 3d printed a mock-up of like a fix for it to like make it mount properly and then Sebastian on his way we had we had early dismissal Friday today um so he like stopped by today and is like talking about the solution with the motorcycle shop and then figures he can probably like make it by like next week and so then they just have to do final assembly he says it looks like I haven't seen any in progress yet because i was like no no i want to be surprised uh sammy is apparently going to do a float plane exclusive of me taking delivery of this bike after three years uh and i want to make it really really clear this is not the shop's fault yeah it was mostly painting yeah mostly it just took me forever to paint it and i did some stuff wrong and i got some paint and some threads and various things um they have probably contributed a handful of delays but the vast bulk of it was me and honestly i'm just impressed that they've stuck with me for this long to get this thing done um so i'm very excited to have my bike back uh do you want to pick a topic yeah let's keep it

2:42:45Linus Sebastian:in the 3d printing world innovative startup pioneers 3d printing with recycled glass new binder jet process combines powder with adhesive agent in layering technique vitreform 3d is a knoxville startup tackling the 8 million tons of glass U.S. landfills receive yearly by 3D printing with recycled post-consumer glass. Unlike conventional recycling, their process skips energy-intensive melting and isn't picky about color or grade. Really, it's not picky about color.

2:43:18Luke Lafreniere:Well, you can be. You can sort by color, but you don't have to. So you could just do this.

2:43:25Linus Sebastian:Okay, neat. Their patent-pending binder jetting technology, what a sentence, works like this. the waste glass is ground into a fine powder there's a thin layer of glass powder spread across the build spectrum platform but not sure where you got that word from not a single clue uh inject style nozzles deposit a binder slash adhesive only where materials should bond based on that 3d model uh and then repeat layer by layer to build the 3d object the finished piece is then fired in an oven like that makes sense like pottery to set its final shape the end product is classified as engineered stone.

2:44:05Luke Lafreniere:I mean, yeah, glass is just rock, right? Yeah, no, that makes sense.

2:44:07Linus Sebastian:It's just interesting. Roughly 90 to 95 % recycled glass and 5 to 10 % polymer binder. Turning the binder's chemistry, tuning the binder's chemistry was the core of the R &D challenge. And the process works with almost any powder, metal, ceramic, or glass. Wow, interesting. They're backed by the U.S. Department of Energy to develop fire-resistant cladding as a next-gen building material. Neat. Actual recycling is cool. There is a lot of, we're going to recycle this straight into the landfill.

2:44:41Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, or straight into a container that we try to ship overseas that they then send back.

2:44:46Linus Sebastian:Yeah, or that. Yeah. Yep. There's a lot of that going around. There's a ton of that going on. So actual recycling sounds awesome.

2:44:55Luke Lafreniere:Our discussion question is, given the severe health hazards of handling microscopic glass powder, is this something that should probably stay an industrial technology as opposed to trying to

2:45:06Linus Sebastian:scale it down for consumers oh like 3d printing at home yeah i think i think this is maybe not for general consumers and that's probably okay that's that's fine not everything has to be in

2:45:18Luke Lafreniere:our home garage yeah lab yeah um but maybe all over dk yeah in float plane chat based take glass in general pretty cool it is pretty freaking cool glass is amazing yeah did have you ever done like

2:45:34Linus Sebastian:glass blowing no but i've always thought it's pretty interesting do it i always thought it

2:45:38Luke Lafreniere:must be insanely hard is it insanely hard well yeah yeah but like if you if you uh we did like we we did one that had like an introductory like friendly for kids kind of thing where you just you make like a little bobble and and you should you should do it i saw there was a i don't remember

2:45:57Linus Sebastian:what type of content this was but I saw somebody doing glass blowing where they would get like driftwood and then they would do like a big I don't know bulb while doing glass blowing and then would droop it over the driftwood and then it would be like a vase that would kind of morph itself around the driftwood and it looked super cool. I have no idea how I would find that. But it looked awesome. molten glass on driftwood that is not what it looks like but it looks like it's the same concept

2:46:34Luke Lafreniere:yeah this is not this is not it this is not it okay well i mean it's a similar concept amazon was unlikely to be the solution you were gonna yeah yeah okay here i wasn't even just being biased against amazon though do you see anything here that resembles similar to me

2:46:54Linus Sebastian:not really. More similar to that one.

2:46:56Luke Lafreniere:To this one.

2:46:57Linus Sebastian:Yeah, and that is on Amazon. But it was like more of a branch-like thing, not like a stump of wood. Okay. I don't know. Whatever. Glassblowing is cool.

2:47:10Luke Lafreniere:All right. Yeah.

2:47:11Linus Sebastian:Yeah, more like those. A little bit more like those. Still not really like those. Yes. More like that, I think.

2:47:16Luke Lafreniere:Okay. That's just kind of neat. Yeah, that's cool. These are cool.

2:47:20Linus Sebastian:Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

2:47:21Luke Lafreniere:we're getting more close to what i was okay all right i'm trying i'm trying i'm cooking i'm cooking that looks very much closer to it okay all right okay all right cool all right we've kind of apparently it's apparently it's a thing i didn't know that driftwood glass thing is a thing i mean we live in the world of like pinterest right basically everything's a thing because of because of that yeah um there's this is a new thing there's a new starlink policy that requires There's a passport check, a live portrait, and these are for international use. Update, the travel registration support page is 404 now.

2:48:02Luke Lafreniere:Okay, interesting. So Starlink just rolled out a new travel registration policy requiring customers using the service outside of their registered home country to submit their full legal name, nationality, date of birth, passport number, a copy of their passport, and a live portrait selfie. Failure to register within 25 days results in the service being disabled abroad. The pop-up has been appearing for US and Canadian customers, including some who have never traveled internationally. And it's reportedly triggered by owning the portable Starlink Mini, which works with the Rome plan, 60 days per trip internationally.

2:48:37Luke Lafreniere:SpaceX has not officially commented, but the move is possibly a crackdown on malicious actors like scammers in Myanmar, Latin American drug cartels, and, this is, given SpaceX's sort of history with the conflict in Ukraine, Russian military forces, this seems like a likely one, who have all been caught using Starlink. Some customers suspect that this is kind of a know-your-customer compliance situation. Concerns about this, however, include confusion for users without passports, fears that the pop-up is a scam, given the sensitive info that's requested, and the inverse or the opposite of that or a related concern is that if this is something that people know to expect, then scammers going and pretending to be SpaceX and asking for this information could be pretty scary.

2:49:32Luke Lafreniere:Sorry, I thought you were done. There was also a situation where at least one boat user, Bruce Toll, reported that his service was cut off before the 25-day deadline mid-voyage and he was only able to restore it because he still had cell coverage luckily um and then also just general privacy concerns like in general what else we got uh well i just i think

2:49:59Linus Sebastian:you know how there was there was a lot of stuff recently there was some about ubiquity there's some going on right now about a canadian firearms manufacturer making sniper rifles and their sniper rifles were found in Russian military hands. There's the ubiquity thing, stuff like that. And people are calling for like, hey, you need to better control, you know, the distribution of your products. But...

2:50:27Luke Lafreniere:I mean, are we asking for government overreach? Yeah. It kind of feels that way to me.

2:50:34Linus Sebastian:But then like sometimes it is also like, well, yeah, you probably should... Not have Canadian sniper rifles killing Ukrainians. This is maybe the pendulum swinging too far. But then at the same time, Starlink in Russian military hands right now would be benefiting them tremendously. And it was a big deal when it was shut down for them. So like... It's tough.

2:51:00Luke Lafreniere:But what's the famous quote? Those who give up their freedom for liberty deserve neither. Is that the quote? Did I get it right? I think it's, we'll get neither. Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither. That's, that's it apparently. Or those who give up liberty for safety quote. Okay. Ben Franklin. The exact quote is those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Um, yeah.

2:51:32Linus Sebastian:Yeah. Is it relevant here? Not at all. I think it is. Super relevant. And it's not the equivalent of a SIM card. I can get a SIM card with no identification at all. Yes, yes, you can. You can land at an airport and buy a SIM card and just slap it in your phone and have no...

2:51:46Luke Lafreniere:This is one of those times when the slippery slope argument is not a fallacy because it becomes not a fallacy when there is solid precedent for the slope leading to a particular destination. And in this case, um giving a government the ability to decide whether crucial communication infrastructure works or not or never mind the government also a commercial entity that could be controlled by another government or other entity giving somebody else control of crucial infrastructure is like bad. And it often leads to very bad things. And if luckily you happen to live in a society that is free enough that that hasn't been a problem for you personally, then that's really good.

2:52:39Luke Lafreniere:And people around the world, I'm sure, are very happy for you. But there are plenty of folks in places like Hong Kong who would love to have a word with you about how awful it can be when their ability to communicate and organize can be turned on and off at a whim. And I'm sure the Iranians would also agree that this can have very negative outcomes. And the more that you give up, the greater the likelihood of those outcomes.

2:53:15Linus Sebastian:Yeah, Iran has Starlink service.

2:53:19Luke Lafreniere:So did Russia. yeah until someone turned it off and uh i was talking about the government uh limiting internet access in iran also i believe owning a starlink no i'm sorry i'm responding to full point chat no no i know yeah but i so i yes starlink does allow service there but from my understanding owning a starlink dish there is a crime at this point in time um so giving another outside entity the ability to turn on or off your communications infrastructure. I think hopefully most people can recognize, given that there are concrete examples where that has been a very big problem, that that is not something that we generally want.

2:54:10Yikes.

2:54:11Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, Persian tech guy says owning Starlink is indeed illegal in Iran right now. curious bread says Iran is actively jamming Starlink signals domestically as well yeah Persian tech guy we Iranians do agree so just because you're lucky enough that you are not being

2:54:33Luke Lafreniere:oppressed enough yet does not mean that we should just kind of go oh well this is fine the flip side of it being do i want canadian rifles killing ukrainians no no but should we put a chip on every gun that has gps tracking and you can't pull the trigger if it's in certain geographical regions uh i mean that sounds wiley draft you're saying russian military was killing

2:55:01Linus Sebastian:people because of starlight ukraine military is currently killing people with starlight yeah lots of i'm sure they're not the only one shut off too like this is like where is the fact that the line is not set by you is the whole part of the reason the whole part of the the problem that we're currently discussing yes and it's and it's it's an uncomfortable conversation yeah it's a western network okay i mean we're we're never going to see eye to eye here and that's okay

2:55:32Luke Lafreniere:but like yeah i mean what does western mean the west is the west until the west isn't the west i mean it's also not a western network the the nato the nato alliance is not exactly as concrete today as it was it's a company 10 years ago it's not a government service it's it's it's it's not

2:55:52Linus Sebastian:i don't think you can necessarily say it's a western network even he's saying like should we enable our enemies it's like well whose enemies it's up to whose enemies yeah exactly

2:56:01Luke Lafreniere:it's up to a company yeah and like and and what does western even mean right now nothing is that simple right now sorry good news when show um yeah we should move on uh linux gains some more critical windows apps including 3d movie maker and space cadet pinball two classic mid-1990s windows apps have been officially ported to linux space cadet pinball which was originally part of the microsoft plus pack for windows 95 was decompiled and rebuilt by musichenko andre and ported to 14 different platforms the linux build is now available on flat hub and uh oracle linux developer steven brennan also recently blogged about getting it running on linux this is in a word based also you guys should edit a movie there's an even well uh have you ever used 3d movie maker no yeah uh not how that works um in even bigger news 3d movie maker has come to linux microsoft open sourced it back in 2022 but it sat mostly untouched um until registry readers Mark Cave, Ayland, and Ben Stone spent roughly 15 months on a fork called 3DMMEX after the original 3DMMF Forever project stalled.

2:57:35Luke Lafreniere:Beyond a native Linux port, they added 64-bit support, bug fixes, ARM64 Windows builds, native file dialogues, MIDI music via fluid synth, and a GStreamer-powered video player. a raspberry pi version is in the works uh so is is i'm looking at the video now is it like source

2:57:57Linus Sebastian:movie maker where you like have to use their like little characters and stuff so i actually am not

2:58:03Luke Lafreniere:sure because one of the problems that i had with 3d movie maker was that at the time almost nobody had a microphone so i could only use the handful of audio clips that were included and maybe it had other capabilities and props sounds yeah scenes so maybe it had other capabilities if you also had other accessories but we couldn't really like do that much with it right um but yeah there's like walking animations and like wow yeah i don't know if i ever saw anything that was

2:58:39Linus Sebastian:the output of this i i definitely like never even opened that uh oh it was not included this was

2:58:46Luke Lafreniere:like paid software oh wow yeah and there was like uh there was like quests and stuff like you could click on like you could go to different places in like kind of the like the the the studio campus and like find collectibles um here let me see if i can find um here's a video from dos storm that says there's there's still nothing like microsoft 3d movie maker um 23 23 000 views yeah this guy this guy was funky and you could do all kinds of stuff yeah like you could set up your scene and yeah i remember i remember these stock characters man they had like a handful of outfits each you could have them talk to each other and like you could make them you could make them die and stuff you could make them like like grow really big and then explode there was like an explode effect there's all kinds of all kinds of cool stuff and now you can run it on linux for the dozens of people who want to do that i just it was a it was a part of my childhood i have multiple core memories sitting around the computer with my siblings making the you know the baby explode or whatever after it does something just goofing goofing around it's a it's a fun creativity tool that in some ways encourages additional creativity due to it being so rudimentary and so limited if you kind of get what i mean like in some ways the ability to do anything um it's like like like ai the ability to just kind of say yeah make this is less rewarding than using a crummy tool to try to make something good, if that kind of makes sense.

3:00:35Luke Lafreniere:Speaking of, you know, crappy AI outputs, AMD put up a pretty horrible AI-generated ad, which is not good news. So instead, we're going to talk about an AMD-related thing that is good news. AMD listened. FSR 4.1 is coming to RDNA 3 and then later to RDNA 2. The feature is going to be enabled through a driver update, bringing support to older cards supporting Int 8 instructions, as opposed to the FP8 version that was used on RDNA 4. It's expected to drop in July for Radeon 7 ,000 cards, and then sometime in early 2027 for RDNA 2 cards. An Int 8 version of FSR 4.0 was leaked in 2025, which users were able to get running using tools like opti scaler but amd had until now not committed to bringing fsr4 to these older cards this change by amd will bump that support to fsr 4.1 which does improve image quality versus fsr 4.0 our discussion question is everyone liked that what are some other times that a company backported features to an older product and it was pretty cool um you know what i'm going to throw Microsoft a bone.

3:01:53Luke Lafreniere:We've given them a lot of flack for the last couple of months. I think it was pretty cool when Windows 8 sucked and they said, okay, here's Windows 10 for free. Here's a free upgrade. That's kind of, it's not really like backporting a feature. It's kind of backporting a feature. It's taking your old computer that was Windows 8 and backporting all the Windows 10 features to it. So you know what? I'm standing by it. You got anything?

3:02:21maybe chat can let us know if they can think of anything i'm rapidly typing in chat can you

3:02:26Luke Lafreniere:rephrase the question um what are other times that a company backported features to an older product and it was cool and everyone liked it

3:02:39Luke Lafreniere:Didn't AMD...

3:02:45Luke Lafreniere:Hasn't AMD done this in the past?

3:02:49Linus Sebastian:Yeah. I'm not going to be able to name super specific examples, but I think AMD has done this in the past. AMD has a bit of a precedent of supporting platforms for a long time and bringing things to them, bringing things back to them. Nvidia also brought some of their newer features back to older cards.

3:03:08Luke Lafreniere:They've done, I think they've made a pretty good faith effort to support the RTX promises of the 20 series, even though the hardware was just like not there yet. They haven't always done a perfect job, but I think they've done pretty okay. Solid B. uh there was um there was something there was something in the chat that i had wanted to that i'd wanted to talk about no i missed it oh right no you reminded me yeah amd's uh track record of supporting products for a long time we've got a really cool video coming we're gonna put the newest am4 processor in the oldest am4 board and then we're gonna like benchmark it against that same processor in the newest AM4 board and see if you bought the right AM4 board 10 years ago, can you literally buy a chip today and upgrade your computer?

3:04:07Luke Lafreniere:And what are the downsides of that? It's going to be pretty cool.

3:04:12Linus Sebastian:Yeah, that is pretty sweet, actually.

3:04:13Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, one of our newer writers, Michael is working on that project. And then Pankratz is helping him out with some of the testing. Labs might be actually helping out as well. I'm not sure about that. Are you still arguing with float plane chat?

3:04:25Linus Sebastian:Yes It's okay

3:04:27Luke Lafreniere:Don't make me time you out We'll be friends in the end I'll put you in time out It's okay We're fine Okay if you type any more to float plane chat right now I'm putting you in time out I've put other people in time out today Float plane chat's spicy today I don't know what's going on It must be a full moon or something

3:04:40Linus Sebastian:It's been interesting

3:04:41Luke Lafreniere:Yeah and for once This is wild I'm not arguing with anyone It's like I feel like the kid Mom, dad, stop fighting for the first time ever so dan this is what it feels like you do get used to it well mom and dad fighting or or yeah oh okay and then you have this like smugness you have smugness like and you're like like you're just watching like you're watching yeah big smugness yeah big like i mean he's the one doing the gesture i'm just right pair of smug all right thank you just watching class dismissed um meta employees have launched a protest against mouse tracking technology at their u.s offices this one is i want to say you gotta stay tuned on this one because at the

3:05:33Linus Sebastian:beginning it's like you're thinking it's like mouse jigglers or something like that no no it's

3:05:38Luke Lafreniere:so much worse stay tuned and the reason that this belongs in good news when show is because I have massive respect for the meta employees that are speaking out right now for reasons that I'll get to in a minute. OK, so on May 12th, meta employees distributed flyers at multiple U.S. offices to protest the company's recent installation of mouse tracking software on their computers, pushing for colleagues to sign an online petition against it. The tracking tool is called Model Capability Initiative, or MCI, and it logs mouse movements, clicks, keystrokes, and occasional screenshots of work-related applications in order to not monitor if you're working, but in order to train Meta's AI models.

3:06:30Luke Lafreniere:meta's justification for this is that it is building agents to do everyday computer tasks so its models need real examples of how people actually use computers spokesperson andy stone added that the data isn't used for anything else with safeguards in place for sensitive content with that said employees expect that the data is used to train the models that will replace them this protest is landing just before meta lays off 10 of its staff or about 8 000 people on may 20th so that's in five days while also canceling plans to hire for another 6 000 open roles all of this is happening while meta plans to spend up to 135 billion dollars on ai infrastructure this year building toward what zuckerberg calls personal super intelligence for its three and a half billion daily users the protest has also spread to the uk where users are organizing through the united tech and allied workers union with organizer eleanor payne accusing executives of pursuing speculative ai strategies while forcing staff to endure quote draconian surveillance unquote to train the very systems meant to replace them boy is there ever a lot to unpack here so pretty wild on the eve of mass layoffs people are speaking out and taking action against this draconian surveillance massive respect there um the fact that meta is treating their employees as like as like as training data is sort of next level unhinged um like i'm trying to

3:08:21okay luke hit me with something here stop arguing hit me with something here what would be what would be where

3:08:34Luke Lafreniere:i don't need to see the screen can i put another admin i mean i can just remove it I'll time out the people you're talking to

3:08:46Linus Sebastian:No, no, no, no, no

3:08:47Luke Lafreniere:Okay, alright, then stop They're good people We just got confused, they're good people What's worse, Luke What's worse If Meta was doing this to their User base, or doing this to their Staff, who at least they pay Just doing it to both Well, I know, but no, no, no Just for the sake of having a moral argument right now Like, I just, I want to hear your perspective. I value your perspective. That's all. I respect you. Okay, let's say it was me. Okay? In our hypothetical scenario, it's me. I'm building. I need, I just need footage of people, you know, wanking it. What's better if I record my staff who happen to be paid porn performers?

3:09:35Luke Lafreniere:Okay. Okay. Right? Because they were going to wank it anyway, right?

3:09:39Linus Sebastian:So you're trying to train an AI bot because you're going to be selling sex robots in the future.

3:09:43Luke Lafreniere:Or my users who are wanking it at home. And it's in the TOS. Like it's either way. You know, I was allowed to do it. Which one's worse? That's what I want to know. I think it depends on how. 603 in the chat says, say no more. I'm your man.

3:10:05Luke Lafreniere:Gilmore D, why did I know you were going to say that? because you've been watching WAN show for too long.

3:10:10Linus Sebastian:Yeah. We'll jiggle all the things. Yeah. Which one's worse? I think it depends on how explicitly communicated it is. Because if it's a meta service and it's explicitly communicated to the user, you can just not. Sorry, did you say nut or not? In this case, both, realistically. You're picking one or the other. but you I mean I have a really hard time believing unless you're an influencer of some kind that Instagram is a requirement to your life okay yeah I can see that but you need a job but you do need a job but you could work somewhere else maybe job market's really bad economy is wrecked and the job market's really bad

3:10:56Luke Lafreniere:can I tell you can I tell you and maybe this is maybe if I was going to put on my lizard brain hat right i i would feel ick here about my employees because if you had to watch someone wank no no no no rather not know them no i don't mean the watching i just mean the like the the using of them well that's what they're doing they're using their employees to train some data set because they know that it's one of the only clean clean data sources as a reminder because everything's poisoned now they provide the tissues to clean the data as a reminder in this scenario i have

3:11:45Linus Sebastian:to pick one of them so i can't just yeah you have to pick one bad i'm just re-giving that context

3:11:49Luke Lafreniere:because some people are gonna be like oh like i because with an employee even if i've never actually interacted with them because let's say i work i i run a company that has tens of thousands of employees or whatever. Like with them, there was at least a pen and paper version of a handshake that exists between me and them. We have like some level of mutualism in our relationship, whereas I feel like, well, I guess the user's that too, but like I don't have to look in the whites of their eyes at an all-hands meeting. I don't know. I'm just, to me, it feels ickier to use the people who are directly benefiting you every day through the labor that they contribute to your organization.

3:12:32Luke Lafreniere:But then again, the users are directly benefiting you as well. And that's pretty icky too. In fact, like they could be more dependent on you. Like an Instagram influencer, such a great example that I wouldn't have thought of, but they're super dependent on the platform.

3:12:45Linus Sebastian:It's a job, yeah.

3:12:46Luke Lafreniere:It is a job. And you don't have to like that job. You could think it's stupid or whatever. And that's fine. That's your opinion. But like, that doesn't change that for some people. And more importantly, where your argument falls apart for the people who work for those people it is very much a job you can argue all day that my job shouldn't be a job being youtuber blah blah stupid go get a real job but everybody who works for me has a real job like that well he had a real job he apparently left it don't worry about that the point is people with very real jobs work for linus media group inc and the same would be true of Instagram.

3:13:22Luke Lafreniere:That's a really good point.

3:13:23Linus Sebastian:Yeah. So it's hard to... So for most users, I see Instagram as very non-essential. Not only is it non-essential, but there are alternative platforms that do almost the same thing. So... But then it's not true for everyone.

3:13:44Luke Lafreniere:And it's not always possible to just switch over. Not every Viner succeeded on another platform.

3:13:50Linus Sebastian:Oh, no, I'm talking pure viewers. Oh, pure viewers.

3:13:54Luke Lafreniere:Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3:13:55Linus Sebastian:Okay. Like, I don't think you can argue that any of those things is, like, essential. Although I have heard that a lot of people are using TikTok as search now.

3:14:06Luke Lafreniere:That's a terrible idea. I don't have it. I have no idea. But... I mean, based on how much, like, horrible AI slop misinformation we found the last time we did like a TikTok tech hacks video. You shouldn't search anything on TikTok.

3:14:23Linus Sebastian:Somebody recently was asking me like, what's my primary media source? And I said that it was YouTube. And they're like, oh, what do you mostly use it for? And I was like, honestly, I think like learning things. Most of the content that I watch is like information or education included. My goodness. Oh my God. What is this?

3:14:44Luke Lafreniere:It's me doing a TikTok dance. oh yeah this is some this is some crazy next level crazy adam intro energy here don't worry about it yeah yeah don't overthink it um yeah and and they were like oh yeah i do that too like

3:14:58Linus Sebastian:like uh for like fixing things and whatnot i was like oh yeah sure like i i you know we were taking apart my washing machine and i just watched some youtube video of a of a appliance repair person taking apart the washing machine and they're like yeah except i don't use youtube for that anymore and i was like huh they're like yeah i use tiktok the videos are like faster oh that's weird to my brain a person who doesn't use tiktok

3:15:27Luke Lafreniere:but yeah i don't know the children are actually wrong this time this was not a i know i just mean like the the seymour skinner quote yeah yeah no it's the children who are wrong yeah

3:15:39Linus Sebastian:yeah yeah this person was similar age to me but um i also i also understand what you're saying yeah i i don't know both of them are i think inherently evil um

3:15:56Linus Sebastian:you have to pick one though which one's ickier i think it really comes down to how much it you said tos if it's just tos yeah then i kind of want to say user base they had it coming what oh my god just because lying to consumers is like a yikes and it would be i think much harder to hide from employees but if it's if there's like a pop-up when you load Instagram that's like we're stealing everything the camera is always on please wank then I mean what you do is your own if you decide to keep using it belongs to Mark yeah either way at that point I would be more upset about the employees because I feel like the employees are more trapped in that scenario and then we come back to the cyclical argument of Instagram creators and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah but yeah I think I don't know this might be a terrible argument but i think where i'm going to land on how much of a disclosure there is and the more of the disclosure the more i um it's not that i'm more okay with it the more i become less okay with the employee side if that makes sense uh let's talk about because because sorry at a core of the argument if you tell that to a bunch of employees there's gonna be a ton of people that cannot leave because their life situation won't allow them to and if you tell that to users people could just decide in the moment to uninstall Instagram.

3:17:29Luke Lafreniere:So then we both agree that employees is ickier because they're stuck I think so.

3:17:37Linus Sebastian:In the relationship I think so unless you're not disclosing it to consumers because then that's such a huge consumer rights violation that like

3:17:44Luke Lafreniere:that the employees rights come second

3:17:50Luke Lafreniere:Amazon employees are token maxing due to

3:17:57Linus Sebastian:I'm actually so excited for this topic Due to

3:18:01Luke Lafreniere:Pressure to use AI tools and this is Good news because it's just really Really fucking funny On May 12th The Financial Times reported that Amazon Employees are using an internal AI tool to automate Non-essential tasks That's important Non-essential tasks Just to show their managers that they are using AI more frequently. This practice is being called token maxing, which I think is going to take me a while to be able to say with a straight face. This pressure stems from Amazon setting a target this year, requiring more than 80 % of developers to use AI tools each week, plus internal leaderboards that track each employee's AI token consumption.

3:18:51Luke Lafreniere:Employees told the Financial Times that there is, quote, so much pressure to use these tools and that tracking usage creates perverse incentives, which is one of Luke's favorite pet peeves. Amazon said that the stats would not factor into performance reviews, but several employees said that they believed that managers were checking anyway. Amazon has since limited team-wide visibility of usage stats so only an employee and their manager can see them and is reportedly discouraging managers from using token consumption as a performance metric at all. Fake news! Token maxing has also surfaced at Meta and Microsoft, where Meta's internal AI leaderboard reportedly only lasted days after going public.

3:19:39Luke Lafreniere:NVIDIA CEO Jensen Wong said he would be, quote, deeply alarmed if a$500 ,000 a year engineer wasn't consuming at least a quarter million dollars in tokens annually, meaning that the entire ecosystem seems to be incentivized for consumption and for it to continue climbing even if a lot of that token consumption turns out to be performative no way this is a whole new layer to the financial circle jerk that is going on around ai infrastructure building out and ai company valuations if they're all what if we record the circle jerk for training If they're all just using their own AI tokens and using as many of them as they possibly can to juice their token consumption, to juice the revenues that create the valuations to, holy freaking crap, what is going on here?

3:20:31Linus Sebastian:from a dev friend in Silicon Valley is that not only are people unnecessarily using it just to make sure that their numbers stay high, some of them are building their own tools that will just automatically use it in order to just sit there and token virus, basically, to just consume tokens without them even interacting with anything in order to try to juice their numbers. So they have built bots that just use AI time, which if you think about the impact of this stuff, is like tons of water, tons of energy, tons of various forms of pollution, massive amounts of expense so that they don't lose their jobs.

3:21:21Linus Sebastian:Which is just, at a certain level, at a certain level, it's it's just it's so it's it's part of me wants to laugh that we've gone from mouse jigglers to auto ai token scripts that just burn your tokens so that you can look good this arms race of like are these people doing their jobs is getting crazier Luke

3:21:53Luke Lafreniere:Luke there are days when I think everyone you know struggles to like go into work I have my days like that today is a day that I am extremely happy and proud to work at Linus Media Group Incorporated where this does not exist for now next week no no token leader next week

3:22:27Linus Sebastian:next week next week for sure uh yeah crazy i just thought it was really funny that guy telling me the story about building a little tool that just consumes tokens yeah i mean it makes

3:22:40Luke Lafreniere:no valuable output because like if if all you're being tracked on is like how much you're using ai because I don't like, like what is it that they don't have ways of putting together meaningful, like quarterly goals and performance metrics? It's just, we're back to lines of code, Luke.

3:23:02Linus Sebastian:This is, oh, the lines of code argument has come up a lot in AI land because AI enjoyers, some AI enjoyers, a subset of AI enjoyers will brag about like, oh yeah well my agents output 37 000 lines of code today what are you doing small boy look at me and it's like i is it 37 lines of good code bro i don't know maybe probably not wow um fun world

3:23:34Luke Lafreniere:very fun world uh ranic ale ranic ranic ale says in float plane chat it'd be like tracking truckers performance by gas consumed it's like yeah like kind of it could be a proxy for like them doing stuff but it also like definitely couldn't for the ones that just lead foot it or literally just dump gas out onto the gravel in the parking lot because they know that they're going to get a good performance review for doing so like that's the perverse incentive put a brick on the pedal and leave it in neutral overnight yeah just send it yeah send it nowhere yeah like it's just obviously bad uh oh man yeah and then like you know the arms race is just going to continue so

3:24:24Linus Sebastian:now managers are going to start getting reports like they're i'm sure there's going to be some way that they can ask the the the whatever system they have what this user has been using it for and then they're going to find that it's a bunch of junk data so then the other side is gonna build more sophisticated waste tools where context aware waste tools where you are informing the waste tool of what various tasks you have going on at the time and then it will just research and generate garbage output based on those things.

3:24:57Luke Lafreniere:And then the arms race will get to the point where the tools actually do productive work. Maybe. Just kidding. Yeah. They'll be so good at hiding the fact that they're not doing anything useful that they will start to do something useful. Sounds like a lot of corporate life.

3:25:17Linus Sebastian:It sounds like a great short story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's

3:25:24Luke Lafreniere:it's wild, man. But hey, here's something cool. On May 4th, Boise State announced that a team led by electrical engineering professor Chris Campbell and Pearl Hill Technology CEO Bamidel Omotoa has built a portable device that detects forever chemicals or PFAS in water samples in real time out in the field. The device, called the Environmental Optically Gated Transistor, uses specialized transistors paired with machine learning to detect PFAS down to one part per trillion, the threshold set by current EPA regulations. Current EPA-proof PFAS tests cost about$300 per sample, take weeks, and require lab-only equipment like liquid chromatography paired with mass spectrometry.

3:26:11Luke Lafreniere:The new device aims to do the same job on-site, in real time, and at competitive prices if scaled. PFAS, or per - and polyfluoroalkyl substances, are a group of over 1 ,000 chemicals found in drinking water, food, cookware, and clothing. The most toxic ones are linked to multiple cancers, infertility, developmental delays in infants, and compromised immune systems. The breakthrough started as an accident in Campbell's lab. Undergraduate researchers, leaning over microscopes, noticed that their breath was causing weird variations in transistor results, which turned out to be the transistors reacting to different chemicals in the air.

3:26:49Luke Lafreniere:In methanol tests, the team has hit accuracy rates between 86.7 and 97 % depending on the PFAS molecule. The next step is reaching those numbers in real water samples, which have other contaminants that can complicate detection. Our discussion question is, do you think a higher awareness of PFAS will lead to stronger regulation around it? I'm going to go ahead and say no, because awareness of tooth decay has not led to good decisions around fluoride, for instance. But hey, maybe we'll figure it out.

3:27:25Linus Sebastian:Yeah, I was watching a video a while ago, somebody testing water around where like hikers would go versus areas that they didn't. I found like massive increases in PFAS content. Because like a lot of hiking gear is just covered in it.

3:27:53Luke Lafreniere:Oh, Rinske at Rinkzate says, I thought this whole time it was PFAs. Maybe.

3:27:59Linus Sebastian:Yeah, whatever.

3:28:00Luke Lafreniere:It's one of those things I've only ever seen written. There's so much stuff.

3:28:03Linus Sebastian:Like, yeah.

3:28:04Luke Lafreniere:I read predominantly as my source of media ingestion. So, sorry.

3:28:11Linus Sebastian:I've heard it called PFAS before. I don't know what's correct. I know in Linux, I know it's like the file system, whatever, whatever. So it's like FSTAB. I like calling it FSTAB. Nice.

3:28:29Luke Lafreniere:It just sounds cooler. oh apparently Derek from Veritasium says it the way that I say it so

3:28:35Linus Sebastian:I've heard it called PFAS before

3:28:36Luke Lafreniere:either we're both wrong or we're both right yeah let's go I mean you call it JIF yeah which is correct the creator says it's JIF therefore it's JIF I mean it's that simple

3:28:48Linus Sebastian:if I if I create something that's like four A's and then I say it's pronounced potato yeah that's fine that's how it works I like that I mean it's one of those

3:28:58Luke Lafreniere:things it's like it's like names are like that like someone's name will be like this is a story my mom used to tell all the time because she overheard a conversation where this lady with the last name S-C-R-E-M-I-N insisted that her name was

3:29:20Linus Sebastian:S-C-R-E-M-I-N

3:29:24Luke Lafreniere:S-C-R yeah, insisted that her name was pronounced Scremmin and like rules of English, it could just as easily be screaming, but she was like really mad that someone pronounced it screaming. And my mom just thought it was funny. Like that screaming family, those screaming kids, you know, anyway. The point is just that if you have a name that has an ambiguous spelling, you decide how it's pronounced and everyone kind of rolls with it. It's true. I mean, look, Ashley, A-S-H-L-E-I-G-H. Are you fucking kidding me? but I have to play along that's Ashley

3:30:04Linus Sebastian:I love the framing of I have to play along with arms out wide I have been assaulted with this information my whole life

3:30:18Linus Sebastian:oh man okay anyways let's move on

3:30:22Luke Lafreniere:I mean I And Battler Gun in float plane chat says, Linus got rejected by Ashley. No, I was rejected by Ashley with an L-E-Y. Okay? It was a long time ago, and I'm totally over it. You can tell. Oh, man. All right. China's new 800-cycle lithium sulfur battery could nearly double drone flight time. On May 12th, a research team at Singshua Shenzhen International Graduate School announced a new lithium-sulfur battery design that nearly doubles the energy density of current drone batteries. The prototype pouch cell hit an energy density of 549 watt-hours per kilo, compared to the under 300 watt-hours per kilo that today's commercial drone lithium-ion batteries typically deliver.

3:31:12Luke Lafreniere:Lithium-sulfur batteries have long been viewed as the obvious next-generation alternative because sulfur is cheap, abundant, and theoretically stores way more energy than lithium-ion. The catch has always been that the chemistry is hard to stabilize during repeated charging. The new design dropped the battery's internal resistance by 75 % compared to conventional lithium-sulfur designs, and in lab tests it ran stably for 800 charge-to-charge cycles, while still retaining nearly 82 % of its original capacity. And our discussion question here is, every few months we get a battery breakthrough that never escapes the lab.

3:31:46Luke Lafreniere:What are the odds that this is the real deal?

3:31:49Linus Sebastian:I'm going to tell a story and then say something and flow-punched at beat me to it, but I had the thought before I read it. One is, I remember CES a very, very long time ago. I saw a booth that was talking about battery technology and they told me all their claims and I told them, wow, if you guys do this and bring it to market, you'll all be billionaires. And they looked a little bit uncomfortable with that because I'm pretty sure they knew it was never coming to market. Right. And it never came to market. Right. I don't remember the name of it or anything, but like I was following it for like a few years afterwards and it kind of just petered off in the...

3:32:23Linus Sebastian:Carbon nanotubes! Yeah. And then the other one is and Flipline got to this before I did, but again, I thought of it independently. I don't see the message anymore. but war do be great for innovation and drones do be crazy right now so maybe there's a little bit more potential expectation that there might be some form of battery technology improvement i'm not surprised at all that they mentioned drones in the text because it is probably

3:32:55Luke Lafreniere:very pointedly related at that i mean it's never a guarantee but um billions and billions of dollars and national defense being at stake does tend to incentivize certain developments.

3:33:12Linus Sebastian:Governments around the world have been paying a lot of attention to the just incredible things Ukraine has been doing with drones and are kind of starting to wake up that that might... All those random people on battlefield strapping C4 to drones and then flying them into tanks and stuff might have made sense in the real world too. yeah yeah

3:33:39Luke Lafreniere:he does know I'm not going to press the button and you know what I know is it's time for Dan to feed us some comms sure it's after dark baby hit me Daniel Besser

3:33:55Linus Sebastian:okay alright what do we got

3:33:58Luke Lafreniere:hi LDL my parents are getting remarried soon and i'm going to be the officiant to each other or to to teddy here uh any advice on giving a speech that is genuine and heartfelt without being cliche or sending a weird message um man what would i do so genuine and heartfelt without being cliche so what is the context talk about talk about the people i think that's the best way to avoid cliches is make it specific to the actual people and how you think that they are a great fit for each other. I think that would be my best advice for writing like a wedding speech of any sort. You looked like you were going to say something.

3:34:49Linus Sebastian:I was going to basically say that I think it's almost hard to be cliche at a wedding. Really? I think people might. Let me look up.

3:35:02Linus Sebastian:yeah i don't know i think weddings are cliche

3:35:07Luke Lafreniere:interesting so you would actually even say it's okay to just play it safe say the bride has never looked better the groom is so lucky you know just the you know i think all that's probably fine yeah just stick with i don't think anybody's gonna be bothered by that stick with the basics

3:35:22Linus Sebastian:it wraps around i also think talking with the people all like everything that you said is

3:35:26Luke Lafreniere:great. Yeah, I think that's good advice too though because trying to be too creative can hit real hard but it can also miss super bad. Yeah. If you're not sure, just fall back on the like these things are obviously good and it's fine. Schraf 2K says just go Corinthians, can't miss. Quote Ezekiel 2320. Okay, I gotta know what Ezekiel 2320 is. This is according to Curious Bread. Ezekiel 2320 is one of the most infamously graphic and shocking verses in the bible it uses explicit metaphorical language to describe the spiritual unfaithfulness and idolatry of israel and judah comparing their alliances with pagan nations to illicit sexual lust

3:36:18Luke Lafreniere:so there she lusted after her lovers whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

3:36:34Luke Lafreniere:Why did you have that at the ready?

3:36:42Luke Lafreniere:For a parent's wedding. Let's move on. Hey, LLD. Just bought my first pool for the upcoming summer. Linus, as a pool owner, any maintenance tips for a newbie? Yeah, don't get a pool. Sorry, too late. Same here. I would also say the same thing. Also, thank you for the EV chargers. BCIT will put them to good use as training aids. Yeah, so any maintenance tips for a newbie? Oh, gosh. Sell it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean you Do not let the chemicals go out of spec You're going to spend a lot more money and time getting them re-inspect That's good, that's good, that's good stuff And when you change the temperature, that totally changes the chemicals Even though you didn't change anything other than the temperature Watch out for that one No glass near the pool Yeah uh uh oh um before you get a pool make sure that you have anyone to share it with you because it costs exactly the same if nobody swims in it as it does if everybody swims in it good chat good chat thoughts on the specs of the steam machine oh man i mean i feel like i've talked about it a fair bit in the ltt videos that we did on it but i guess we're getting pretty close to potential delivery of this thing so it's kind of on everyone's mind again i um man it all depends on price if it comes in at a really reasonable price which is feeling more and more unlikely the longer we get the further we get into this ram apocalypse then i think that the spec is a really fine target that um that valve went for but if it's really expensive then that's going to be a really tough pill to swallow because there are benefits of the steam machine like being able to wake with cec having the integration with the dongle for the steam controller the super quiet compact form factor these are all really good things but you know it's always hard for me to recommend something that isn't a great value and so i'm just i'm gonna have to compare it to a diy machine no matter no matter what happens uh there was there

3:39:02Linus Sebastian:There was an article on Vice that I didn't fully read. Nice. Solid. I just kind of saw the headline. But yeah, I really don't know. But yeah. I hope not. There was like this thing. So I saw this. New update to the source code suggests the machine frame will exceed 1 ,000 euros. That could be anything. It really could be anything.

3:39:28Luke Lafreniere:That just looks like placeholder values. It could be. i doubt it i think that's too high yeah i don't think so hopefully not yeah i doubt it hopefully not we are a mixed mac and windows business environment will switching our users to mac improve our company's overall security posture oh i think switching everyone one way one way or the other would hold on possibly be better because you'd have fewer um surfaces but possibly be worse because if anything does go wrong it hits everybody there that's my uneducated take

3:40:14Linus Sebastian:so in a chat that sounds like a nightmare yeah we do that yeah we also have linux machines yeah

3:40:20Luke Lafreniere:yeah we do it's bad we're a shockingly small organization for like the complicated nature of everything that we do yeah yeah yeah we have like everything from like enterprise equipment in the cloud to enterprise equipment on prem to extremely not enterprise yeah yeah all of it yep with weird rules this is a desktop workstation uh but i have it under a server rule banner. Right. So that it doesn't update and I get to choose. And there's like every single little tiny computer that we have around is different. A small part of Dan's soul goes into a horcrux every time the WAN show crashes. So he's really like, tries to stay on top of that.

3:41:09Linus Sebastian:Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa. So are we pretty sure it was Mvenk? Has it been causing problems now? No? There was the one stream that we did where you're like, oh, I went back to NVENC, and that one had a couple problems.

3:41:24Luke Lafreniere:Are we on CPU encoding right now? No, we were for two shows. And then I fixed the problem. Oh, and NVENC, we're on NVENC right now. And have been for the last couple weeks. What did you do?

3:41:34Linus Sebastian:Did you swap the GPU or something?

3:41:36Luke Lafreniere:No, I just rolled back the drivers until they're like a year out of date. Wow.

3:41:41Linus Sebastian:Interesting.

3:41:42Luke Lafreniere:If only we could just air gap this system, except that we have to stream from it. Well, we could use Wi-Fi. oh wait but that's not air gapping it is a gap he's trying to yeah he's trying to just baiting you mostly luke luke has a real problem masterful job i was gonna say he was it's kind of a bit of

3:42:02Linus Sebastian:both of you yeah master baiter if you record him you can use that you can use that information to train well i mean the camera's running all the time

3:42:14Luke Lafreniere:uh hey lld the lioness you mentioned after announcing smash champs you will never do another large scale like that with your stance on e-waste would you make a company like free it to keep e-waste out oh man free it like kind of like freaky i um i think that a potential like future era of the media side of our company could be that we run like a free geek like electronics recycler i think it would be an incredible mind for content and i think that if we also like were a retailer and you could like buy systems and stuff we would never have to search for a reason to uh build a computer again because we would just have like customer systems and stuff.

3:43:03Luke Lafreniere:We'd never have to search for, uh, you know, a system that needs to be fixed or trouble shot again, because there would just always be a constant flow of them. Um, we wouldn't have to go out looking for cool, weird old tech to, to make videos about because people would just bring it to us.

3:43:21Linus Sebastian:Um, I, I, how much of that actually turns into content though.

3:43:24Luke Lafreniere:I wouldn't really matter because you could, if you can build a sustainable functioning business, I don't know if you can. I don't know if you can either.

3:43:32Linus Sebastian:I kind of... I don't know if you can either. I question that a lot because the space required versus how much you'd make off that is a really bad relationship. This is true. And there's a reason why I like universally loved Free Geek.

3:43:49Luke Lafreniere:Well, apparently the reasons it died, I actually had a longer chat with Mark from Disappearing Inc. a little while ago. Okay. You know, I'm not going to name any of the names that he named or anything like that, but he was very close to Free Geek physically and also in terms of his relationships. And he made it seem like, or at least my understanding of it was, I'm hedging a lot here because I don't want to get anybody in trouble, but basically he made me feel like somehow that Free Geek could have survived if not for stuff that was preventable and avoidable.

3:44:28Linus Sebastian:He made me feel like...

3:44:34Yeah.

3:44:35Linus Sebastian:Okay, interesting. Good to know. Free Geek was like... Was that because of donations and stuff? Or were they actually making enough from the storefront?

3:44:43Luke Lafreniere:I don't want to get into the details, but he made it seem like to me that it could have been workable. Because you ain't getting donations if you do it. If there was enough will. I mean, you can set up a separate organization. We could set up a non-profit. I just... People would like, oh, donate to it? Yeah. I mean, it depends. it's um it would have to it would have to have its own separate boundaries which it should if it's operating as a non-profit like I wouldn't be able to like profit from it right so and I think you'd have to have like you'd have to have like there's a lot of stuff that non-profits have to do to be compliant like you'd have to have like a board I just feel like people would expect

3:45:24Linus Sebastian:you to solely fund the entire thing

3:45:26Luke Lafreniere:oh they'd expect it

3:45:27Linus Sebastian:but I wouldn't I wouldn't be able to and then not forever like for that reason I feel like it would

3:45:33Luke Lafreniere:fail yeah i don't know it's like it's a like it's a funny thing i have sort of like a weird i have like a weird way of contributing back to the community like smash champs is a for-profit business but it has not made a profit and it might might not ever pay back the overall like investment in it um but i certainly am like open to the possibility of it making money um and just to be clear just so that this is not in conflict with things that i've said internally smash champs is not a cash flow drain anymore uh but that's only because smash champs has a really really nice landlord that doesn't charge it rent um then someday at the very least i would like smash champs to pay the landlord rent so that there can be some possibility of some kind of repayment of that investment ever um but not not not for now um so like i could see i could see something like an LTT free geek being kind of like that, where we put in the initial, basically go, okay, here's the space.

3:46:36Luke Lafreniere:Guess what? Now you have a really nice landlord that doesn't charge you rent, but you're going to have to find a way to make it break even month to month. Aside from that or something like that, I could see that being a possibility. But if I bought another building, I think my wife would divorce me. We have too much of our total assets in greater Vancouver real estate, which has taken an absolute pummeling in the last couple of years, as you may or may not have noticed. So that's been cool. Which to be clear, I have, I've been rooting for my entire adult life. I've been like, the crash must come.

3:47:12Luke Lafreniere:I just, you know. It feels a little bit more real over the last few months. Oh, it's, I can tell you. It's fallen. It's very real. Yeah. Like it's been real for a long time. Not even just like. it's taken a long time for sellers to clue in how real it is yeah and and adjust their

3:47:28Linus Sebastian:expectations for what i think it's necessarily that they are becoming more solvent which is like sad uh sorry which is more solvent the sellers i think they're running out of money

3:47:42Luke Lafreniere:oh i think they have to move less solvent then less solvent they've they've reached insolvency like they are i don't think we're quite using it right but basically i don't know what i'm

3:47:52Linus Sebastian:They're getting desperate. They're running out of money. There's been the rate at which Canadians have been defaulting and having places get foreclosed and whatnot is like massively ramping because people have been holding out, trying to sell it at higher values and just people aren't buying.

3:48:12Luke Lafreniere:Oh, hi, Josh says. Slightly less tactfully, all the boomers are realizing their houses aren't worth what they think they are. Yep.

3:48:21Linus Sebastian:that's a i would like to say it that way except they were selling it that amount for a really really really long time it was crazy up here so like they were right honestly which sucks

3:48:34Luke Lafreniere:and so there's a lot of like not boomers that bought in at the peak and it and and that really sucks for them because uh they're they're underwater now at this point yeah um just gonna to kind of look uh here i know i talked about this a little while ago but the number of court ordered sales in here is freaking crazy uh like i don't know here's like a freaking large scale retail and commercial space for for at least this is a wait court oh no this is court drive okay no no for sale by court order though in colonna three acres uh for sale under court order in court order in victoria it looks like a landmark commercial property 100 prison 115 000 square feet look at this thing wow for sale court order 122 parking stalls you want to move to victoria boys look at this thing like on the island yeah yeah that'd be sweet yeah we're not moving to the island oh uh owner occupier or office investment opportunity um yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be a pretty...

3:49:41Luke Lafreniere:Fairmont Le Chateau? 925 acres?

3:49:46Linus Sebastian:Whoa.

3:49:47Luke Lafreniere:Damn.

3:49:48Linus Sebastian:We can work there.

3:49:50Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, I bet you'd like that. Where is this? Montebello, Quebec. You want to move to Quebec?

3:49:58Linus Sebastian:You've got the last name for it? Yeah, it would be super annoying because everyone's going to speak to me in French. Hello, I am Monsieur Lafreniere. I don't know how to speak this language. I'm so sorry. and they'll be like, but your last name is French. And they'll be like, I know.

3:50:12Luke Lafreniere:Je sais. I know. Et je suis désolé. Mais oui. All right. Mais oui.

3:50:27Luke Lafreniere:Sup, bros and lindens. Sparky from the Better Coover. Stop leaking our tax haven, thanks. Do you think Intel will start pursuing R &D in Hillsborough with the recent SpaceX visit, or will my bros stay sad sans job? I think Intel's investments into Intel fab business are very much made right now, and wherever they were going to do it is where they're going to do it. um however i i i i do i do think that that's something that is going to be come as i've said before on the wan show i think that intel's fabrication capabilities are going to become very important geopolitically uh i don't know if y 'all have noticed but uh trump and president xi are having a summit right now or is it a state visit it's some kind of thing that they're doing right now and monsieur zi has made it very clear that um taiwan will become a flashpoint between china and the u.s at some time in the near future which puts tsmc's situation in a pretty different light compared to even 12 months ago 18 months ago and i i have said before i think that things are going to be really important oh apparently he flew back today already okay So it was just over the last couple of days that I think Intel's fab business is going to become very important to Western interests.

3:52:09Luke Lafreniere:Say that much. My fiance and I are starting a business together, a cafe downtown. Any suggestions on first time co-owned business? We both have complimentary experience, but are hesitant on hiring full time staff. um oh it's tough man you need to be aligned on what your goals are i think 90 percent of the fights that yvonne and i have had about lmg and its related companies have been because we were not aligned on what we wanted to put into it and what we wanted to get out of it so hopefully you guys have done that and yes i would be hesitant on hiring full-time staff because um a lot of them work out really great some of them like really don't and sometimes it's you know it's always a spectrum right sometimes it's more your fault and sometimes it's more their fault and um and it can people are the best part and they're the hardest part um pre-marriage or common law you are more stuck with an employee than a partner which is crazy but actually like not well it depends i mean you're somewhere else in bc um we have extremely strong uh worker protections which can be a very good thing and they can be a very challenging thing they can be they can be both of those things keeps me employed up next no that's not what keeps you employed dan um you don't have the spine to come after me lawyers are very expensive here hi lld i switched to linux around six months ago and have been getting nervous from all the latest vulnerabilities like copy fail dirty frag and fragnas do you have any security tips for linux don't worry about it too much everything is cyclical do your updates windows has its times when it's in the news for vulnerabilities so does apple software so does google software don't overthink it don't freak out it's going to be okay and install a russian language pack any joggers coming out anytime soon i love the pair i bought a while ago but was unable to get another pair because of the demand I don't think there's any on the roadmap right now

3:54:41Linus Sebastian:I thought there was some up right now, am I crazy?

3:54:43Luke Lafreniere:What are these? Flex pants

3:54:44Linus Sebastian:Oh the flex pants are actually really great Yeah, pick up some flex pants, these are super nice I know they might not look 100 % like it, but they've got the little thing at the bottom I think you could have a good time jogging in these The only concern, sorry LTT store 29 inseam length I would also point out the LTT store They're aware and they're working on it Okay. They're working on a 32? It's shorter than the regular.

3:55:12Luke Lafreniere:Yep, I know. So they are meant, you can see the cost style they have.

3:55:18Linus Sebastian:Okay, that's fair. I hadn't considered that before.

3:55:22Luke Lafreniere:LLD, why are all the hats so deep? It pushes the tips of my ears down, making me look like Dumbo. Outside of that, I've been loving the many new arrivals recently purchased, especially the new polo shirts. Interesting. We have two sizes. did you order the big size do you maybe not need the big size because uh like my ears are well clear of the hat by like by like an entire finger width on both sides so that's uh our lan hat here's another new one and we we did specifically do two sizes so that we wouldn't have that problem um yeah i'm not sure what to tell you maybe we need maybe we need more sizes uh interesting yeah i haven't heard that feedback before like we did have um like we did have earlier samples that would hit my ears and we and i'm not the only one we've tried these on just to be very clear it's not like oh it works for linus therefore it's good for everybody uh if anything we are to luke's point about the inseam lengths um there's an upcoming pair of bottoms that specifically will not fit me because they use like a more industry standard inseam length and they're like a straight leg.

3:56:38Luke Lafreniere:They're going to be the super soft pants. So matching the super soft hoodie, we have some pants coming that are like a very Gen Z straight leg fit. I have short legs

3:56:49Linus Sebastian:for my height and I have trouble with our store sometimes. Stick a couple

3:56:55Luke Lafreniere:Oreos under the hat and just keep it up off your ear and then if you get snacks. Terrible advice.

3:57:01Linus Sebastian:Is there like sizing information? Probably. Yep. There is sizing information on the hats, the large and the medium. Circumference and hat size. Okay. I was thinking before, I don't think I've ever checked that height. I'm not a hat guy, but I've never checked that height on a hat, and it's never been a problem. It's interesting. Hi, Dan, Linus, and Luke.

3:57:25Luke Lafreniere:I've been debating for a while on buying a PC slash Linux handheld. I'm leaning towards the Steam Deck. Should I continue to hold off in hopes of a Steam Deck 2, or just buy one now?

3:57:36Linus Sebastian:I'm doing that. Steam Deck 2 probably isn't coming for like at least two years, three years maybe. I'm not expecting it anytime soon. I'm holding out because I have a Switch 2 and I'm kind of just deciding I'm not going to flip it. So I have a Switch 2. Now you're committed. Yep. I'm just going to run with that for a while and then when Steam Deck 2 comes out I'm getting one.

3:57:59Luke Lafreniere:Hey DLL, what's the most recent piece of tech in your house that generally annoys you every time you use it, but you haven't replaced it because it still technically works? Oh, man. Might be easier to list the stuff that doesn't. My light switches. I actually have the box of Inivelli switches in my garage, and I need to just start putting them in every time. You still haven't done that? One of those switches ticks me off, and yeah, I still have those stupid GE Jasko switches. They need to go. But they technically do turn the lights on and off, but some of them, the little tab to turn them off is like broken off of them and like i can't i can't add them all to our to the z-wave controller because it just gets too overwhelmed and like it's a whole thing i oh yeah yikes uh oh yeah somewhat uh magnetic flux and chats is printer yeah our printer has all kinds of problems and i i'm gonna make a video about it but i haven't gotten around to replacing it because i was like yvonne can it wait until i make a video elijah needs a printer too so we're going to go printer shopping for a video.

3:58:59Luke Lafreniere:So it's been like months now. That's funny. And last... What did you answer?

3:59:07Linus Sebastian:I don't know.

3:59:11Linus Sebastian:I don't have a lot of like... I have no home automation. I think it could just be anything. It didn't necessarily say... How much tech do I have in my house? I have my computer. You complained about your phone battery today,

3:59:23Luke Lafreniere:but it technically still works. and anything else like that tv's totally fine yeah now it is yeah got broke a while

3:59:35Linus Sebastian:I don't think that was a problem with it though no it really wasn't

3:59:42Linus Sebastian:computer's fine

3:59:47Linus Sebastian:I think I find... Yeah, my mic interface. I don't think it's an actual problem with the thing. I just haven't bothered to go through the work of, like, fixing why it sounds like crap. Because I open the menu and I just go, ah! And then I want to put it away. Because I don't know what any of the things do. Oh, man. I have a... It's not even the device's problem. As far as my understanding goes, they're good. But I have a, what is it, Roadcaster Duo. My GoXLR gave up the ghost. It finally just stopped. So I was like, okay, I got to get something else. Went for a Roadcaster Duo. It's nice to use.

4:00:33Linus Sebastian:Interface and everything's really good. It looks really nice. Cool. It doesn't do the cool thing that GoXLR did when it would boot up, which is genuinely a loss. That sucks. I really wish it did. did all the rgb like leds yeah and having the faders just go like it was cool um so it doesn't do any of that which is sad uh but it also just sounds worse which i'm fairly certain is a settings thing because i did dial in the go xlr um but xlr made it easy to dial in i find the roadcaster does not feel as easy to dial in and it is probably a like user problem but the user experience on the go xlr felt easier guided you through it yeah and you know what maybe i skipped a menu or something i don't remember i don't feel like i did um why don't you just get another xlr uh they're like kind of dead there's there's some community project that's kind of keeping them alive and stuff but i didn't want to reinvest into a what is effectively end of life product that I can't get support for or any of that kind of stuff.

4:01:42So.

4:01:43Luke Lafreniere:All right. Hit me, Mr. Dan. Last one I got for you tonight. Oh, last one. Hey, LDL, what's been the biggest year-over-year leap in consumer tech since 2020 outside of AI? Also, iMac G3 colored translucent screwdrivers when? I think the Prismagic colorways are doing pretty well, so we might do more colors, but No guarantees, no timeline on that right now.

4:02:10Linus Sebastian:Most things I can think of relate to AI in some way. I was going to say like, you know, DLSS style things.

4:02:18Luke Lafreniere:Oh yeah, DLSS is...

4:02:19Linus Sebastian:Relates to AI though.

4:02:21Luke Lafreniere:Yes.

4:02:23Linus Sebastian:I've got a couple if you want to think about it. I didn't, I see it is in full plane chat, but I thought of batteries. Batteries have improved a fair amount. But maybe go for it because those were the only two that first jumped to my head.

4:02:36Luke Lafreniere:A couple of big ones for me, tandem OLEDs. Like the first time I saw the iPad Pro with that tandem OLED display, it just flipping blew my mind.

4:02:46Linus Sebastian:Even just displays in general.

4:02:48Luke Lafreniere:Displays have been moving really fast in ways that maybe we're not appreciating as much right now because they had already had like a big burst of improvement. And then there was like a short lull where they were like, these are like all good enough now and not moving that fast. And then they've been like taking off again, but maybe we're not appreciating this development cycle as much because, you know, the ones from last time are like still pretty darn good. Like it's not like when we went from TN being the norm to like IPS being the norm. Now we're going from IPS, which is like good enough to like OLED to like tandem OLED, quantum dot OLED, like all these great, incredible technologies.

4:03:36Luke Lafreniere:And then my other big one is noise cancellation. Active noise cancellation is like worlds better today in consumer tech products than it was five years ago. Like decades better if we compare it to all the advancements before. Actually, I wanna see how good it is in commercial products. Um, one of the, one of the things that the tech jet, uh, gives me an excuse to benchmark is aviation headsets. So I actually asked one of our, one of our pilots, I was like, Hey, can you give me a list of every like good aviation headset brand? And then whichever one we'll, we'll test them because, uh, we, we have a, we have a guy who we know who I think would be pretty good at testing something like that.

4:04:27Luke Lafreniere:and answer a question once and for all for the dozens of people who care. Who makes the best noise-canceling headset?

4:04:35Linus Sebastian:Because wouldn't you care more for like a Cessna-style thing? Oh, for both. That's way louder?

4:04:41Luke Lafreniere:Oh, they're all super important because it's the long exposure that can be damaging to your hearing. Is it that loud in the jet? It's pretty loud, but yes, you're right. like a prop plane would also be really loud but maybe we could collab with the with the airport and be like hey are there any pilots that would want to like want to trial some try some of these or would they would they take a microphone up with them so that we could get some test audio

4:05:08Linus Sebastian:i'd be really interested too like uh you know dms's testing versus the anecdotal opinions of

4:05:17Luke Lafreniere:the pilots um ryzen 9 79 69x says the aviation standard is bose which i know but what i want to know is okay but what about these upstart companies yeah are they quietly pun intended better and everyone just buys bose because bose has always been the best or is bose still leading the pack i don't know and it's it's been something that i've been curious about ever since i learned that Bose's like pedigree was aviation headsets. And that technology is what made its way down into consumer products. Like, I don't know if you remember this, but we actually did a video where we rented a plane so that we could do an intro for like a noise canceling headset.

4:06:05Linus Sebastian:No, I don't think I know this.

4:06:09Luke Lafreniere:Here, let me see if I can, let me see if I can find this. man if somebody knows by all means let me know because I don't actually remember

4:06:21Linus Sebastian:while you look

4:06:23Luke Lafreniere:what an intro look at this I'm in a turtle outfit

4:06:26Linus Sebastian:while you look another one that I think here it is like

4:06:29Luke Lafreniere:yeah we rented a plane so that we could wow cool plane you ride on top of the plane this is actually kind of a cool ad it's uh it's like it's a show except it's like just travel to montreal montreal's sick yeah wow yeah so it was it was yeah it was just so that we could do the intro and then we just stood on the tarmac and uh and did the a roll neat right i don't know i think it's kind of cool

4:07:01Linus Sebastian:i think another thing that's advanced really nicely yeah since 2020 has been like the ability to build things at home with not a tremendous amount of skill and relatively cheaply. Oh, yeah. So like 3D printing and the derivatives of it. At home level tools have been dropping in price and dropping in barrier of entry in general. Just everything. Slicing software has gotten a lot easier to use.

4:07:29Luke Lafreniere:Oh, that's a topic that we didn't touch this week. The whole bamboo, Prusa. don't know what to talk about it bamboo versus the world situation basically the summary version sparks notes is bamboo bad well no i already knew that yeah known that for a while okay yeah well basically that i i don't know fully bamboo more badder or prusa mad yeah prusa justified mad

4:07:56Linus Sebastian:see but i thought all of that was already known yeah but so the thing that i don't know now is

4:08:01Luke Lafreniere:what happened to change um bamboo was going after someone who was doing something with did they sue someone i don't think they sued them no okay um but basically bamboo bamboo not being a good citizen okay not being a good open source citizen i haven't looked enough into it but i know like i think it was like and being kind of a bully rossman got his hands on some code or something

4:08:25Linus Sebastian:and like yeah it wasn't hard to get his hands on it was like just out there i don't know anything about it yeah um but yeah i don't know i was already kind of in the bamboo bad camp so it didn't really change anything for me so i didn't pay much attention to it yep i'm not gonna throw

4:08:41Luke Lafreniere:away my bamboo printers i already have um but i don't see myself buying another one yeah so that's where I'm at. Yeah.

4:08:54Luke Lafreniere:I was going to say something. Shoot. I think I lost it. Bummer. It was interesting.

4:09:02Linus Sebastian:It was a cease and desist of the repo owner of Orca Slicer.

4:09:08Linus Sebastian:And I thought I read somewhere that it was a fork of Orca Slicer that received the cease and desist. But I am not read up on this, so like, I don't know.

4:09:21Linus Sebastian:it was a fork yeah it was a fork not orca slicer yeah so that that's part of the problem is like i haven't i haven't dove enough into this to get like the actual for sure things and i know that there is some that's not 100 correct like statements like that um it's all a fork that's the point i don't know whatever

4:09:43Luke Lafreniere:basically i don't know what's going on bamboo being a bad boy yeah is is the bottom line prusa's got some really cool stuff they sure do yeah it's not cheap nope but uh they actually have some really cool stuff that i'm looking forward to checking out very soon nice yeah we're like uh we have someone on the writing team who's like very 3d printing now yeah um so we've we've got some pretty cool 3d printed stuff in the, in the hopper right now. And I'm, I'm pretty excited about it. Um, yeah, he, he appeared in the video about, um, Oh, that's crazy.

4:10:19Linus Sebastian:Apparently Bamboo's own software is a fork of Prusa's. Yeah.

4:10:22Luke Lafreniere:That would be why Prusa's mad. Oh yeah. Prusa big mad.

4:10:25Linus Sebastian:Wow.

4:10:26Luke Lafreniere:Um, crazy. Yeah. So Sean worked for all 3dp back in the day. So he's like hardcore, hardcore 3d printing. Yeah. I know he's been in a couple of videos talking about it. It's cool. Yeah. looking forward to it. All right. And I'm also looking forward to, I guess that's the end of the show. Hey, thank you guys so much for tuning in. We'll see you again. We hear you on the whole, the WAN show channel, not being a good place for the live show and the clips. It's been a very messy transition.

4:10:57Linus Sebastian:Yeah.

4:10:59Luke Lafreniere:There's precedent for people doing it. The everything goes on one channel way. There's also a lot of precedent for people doing it the other way. Luke and I have to schedule a meeting basically to kind of go okay do we do yet another channel and then like what do we move all the clips over I don't actually know the right answer right now but we're going to figure it out and we do hear you guys that you don't want to subscribe to that channel as long as there's clips if all you're really interested in is the live show so yeah good to know kind of tough see you next week

4:11:37Luke Lafreniere:I don't know. It might be a different time. Okay, same bad time, same bad time.

4:11:41Linus Sebastian:Bye!