YouTube Is Getting Way Worse And Also Way Better - WAN Show September 25, 2026

23:07Luke Lafreniere:the point yeah of all of it which was that it was supposed to be you tube and it just it feels like algorithm tube it feels like optimization tube is where we're headed and

23:22Linus Sebastian:the that old phrase which is not intended to be used this way but i think it can be is like you optimize the fun out of everything yeah um i i feel like that's pretty real and you know what

23:33Luke Lafreniere:i'm not gonna i i this is a this is a great good timing for this question mn connor says if this feature is proven to increase revenue on your videos would you try it as a business owner and i have already not refused to use because there are other people internally who use tools like um you know thumbnail idea generators and there are i was gonna ask you about that there

24:00Linus Sebastian:are thumbnails on our channel that have ai stuff in them oh yeah 100 percent um but

24:07Luke Lafreniere:I don't use them. And I, uh, how do I put this? Um, I, I ran a little experiment and it was just, it was a little experiment. It wasn't like a, um, I didn't even go full, I didn't go full hog. I was, I was working on a video. Oh yeah. It's, it's one we haven't actually shot yet because MSI is sponsoring it and they want like their monitor prominently featured in the shoot. So we've just got to kind of get it set up for that, but it's going to be a how to switch from windows to linux and that one was based on a labs article and so just for just for lulz i tried feeding a couple prompts into an ai and i said hey in the style of an ltd video um ignore this kind of stages of grief sort of framing that the article used because i don't feel we need to have exactly the same sort of narrative thread through it i have something else in mind um write a video script for this and it did and it was fine then i wrote an intro i wrote my own intro it was completely separate i think i'd actually already written the intro so i then fed it the intro and i was like okay now continue where i left off and finish it and it was a little finer and then i wrote half the video on my own and I was like okay just finish the rest of it and the part it did was fine it was all fine but what it wasn't was you it's not fine tube yeah

25:51Linus Sebastian:it's fucked man yeah I don't like it it's like okay let me devil's advocate slightly sure hit me first doing that first

26:10Linus Sebastian:here we go um all right if they're gonna build these tools and people use these tools who we're going to use tools that do effectively the same thing anyways but are off platform this gives youtube more baked in insight into what videos are having this done to them therefore if they're going to publicly flag things in any way they have that ammo

26:36Luke Lafreniere:if i had any confidence that that was how they were planning to use this i'd be like whoa big brain 4d chest blah blah blah blah blah blah but you really i put the hands up before i said anything okay yeah yeah you did i preemptively surrender oh that was weird uh what shoot man i'm

27:08Luke Lafreniere:i don't know i feel i feel between this and the meta event and i don't think we're ready to transition into that yet we'll talk about that later this the meta event there was there was at least one other thing this week that i was just like maybe i don't maybe maybe tech has moved

27:26Linus Sebastian:has moved past me i think tech has moved past most real people i don't think it's fair to call

27:38Luke Lafreniere:the people who are interested in this stuff not real people i think i will i think i will hold hold back from going that far.

27:46Linus Sebastian:I know a lot of people who are interested in the tools. I don't know almost anyone that is interested in the content. I know a lot of people that are interested in the productive output that it can have for coding. I know, I mean, man, looking at almost any new small community spun up website these days is fascinating because they've all got the fingerprint you can you can tell within seconds man it's it's a good land show when my eyebrows spend the whole time in this

28:25Luke Lafreniere:shape i actually it's like it's something i'm like very conscious of because i like kind of hate it it looks kind of punchable um but it's like it's like my concern eyebrow shape yeah and it's there you'll see it even when i smile it's like there a bit and

28:42Linus Sebastian:but i mean i i've thought that it's interesting because a lot of these small communities are like making websites again instead of just centralizing our discords often both uh and but every time you look at them within like if you have a mildly trained eye like if you've been paying attention to ai stuff basically at all and you look at one of these uh yeah extra crispy is saying that it's the colors especially open ai models collat is better but it's but still has its vibe yeah they all have kind of the same vibe they all pull from the same kind of color palette they'll have the same kind of thing going on they're almost all built uh dark mode first or only um they they often all have rounded corners on things there's there's lots of they all have boxed little sections and blah blah blah it's all it's it's all neat and it's nice and they look aesthetically fine um i didn't even intend on doing that but it's true it's just fine uh devoid of life sure yeah they're they're fine they're just fine and there's a bajillion of them um and i know a lot of people that are trying to code projects um the most successful place that i've seen this in is like little personal projects Like, oh, I want to have, I want to build this thing for home automation.

30:04Linus Sebastian:That's been really popular for the last little while. Um, and I'm going to careful with that one. Uh, and I'm going to, I'm going to use like, you know, AI prompting to build this little home automation thing, uh, which will maybe like use my cameras and detect when, uh, someone that I know is coming to the house versus someone that I don't know is coming to the house and do different things or, or whatever else. um you know use ai to detect absence of people at home and change the turn the hvac off turn the hvac off turn the heating off to turn the lights off do whatever i was up till like two three in

30:41Luke Lafreniere:the morning last night working on yep a car recognition sure so i like i know a lot of

30:46Linus Sebastian:people that are using it very happily and very happily using the output of it in that realm but I don't know like anyone who's like yeah I'm excited about AI movies yeah or oh yeah I'm really into AI art like I don't I don't know anybody who's read a really interesting article um apparently

31:07Luke Lafreniere:there's a there's a lot of like it's like the boomers who are really into AI art like slop of their grandkids that's what I mentioned earlier unicorns and stuff like that earlier the old

31:18Linus Sebastian:people scrolling facebook reels of ai stuff i don't know what's up with that that's weird yeah i don't have an explanation for that it only seems to be sniping the old people

31:28Luke Lafreniere:i know i think the very young two like just just memeing on it to them it's like there's there's no difference i i um i'm around less so i don't know i'm so glad my kids are not allowed on tiktok yeah i'm like i i'm giving myself a gold star of parenting good job um for not letting my kids on tiktok still my oldest is like well into high school and not allowed tiktok um well into high school i know right I know, right? Oh, dude. Dude, speaking of like human experiences and stuff that matters, man, I had this conversation with him already, but I had like the most magic like dinner with him last week.

32:20Luke Lafreniere:We, it was Saturday night. We went to the Fatburger after playing badminton together for three hours. And this was a really special night because I've been telling him for years that one day, if you train really hard and if you do your best and you've got your conditioning in the right place, I will take you to my high octane group, my Saturday group. And he finally came for the first time and he slayed it. I had gotten him in, in like a waitlist spot because it's like, it's, it's one of those things. It's like, it's a pretty demanded group. People want in. People want in. It's, it's the happen place on Saturday night is you go do the Saturday group and then you get like, go get a meal after.

33:08Luke Lafreniere:It's like, it's like one of the cool groups. Yeah. But you have to be at a certain level or you just like, you just, you don't get the invite. It just doesn't work like that. But I got him in waitlisted and I, but I was told like, Hey, it's like one time thing. uh he's really hanging on his own merit yeah yeah and and like he has to and i like i have kind of a special role for myself because i know the organizer of the group um he works for me and so he lets me kind of jump in like last minute even if it's like kind of full and stuff because he knows my schedule is not conducive to planning ahead for stuff like that sometimes um but he's like no your son's gonna have to like get a get a last minute spot if it's available whatever whatever whatever I get the message afterward he can come anytime and I was like this is 10 years of investment paid off like like I I think I have this reputation for being very like fly by night like seat of my pants uh don't imagine for a second that there isn't a master plan.

34:13Luke Lafreniere:I literally like got married, had kids right away and like grounded out at the beginning, like a hundred percent grind set with like pay the mortgage fast, get the business going, get the kids raised, do it, do it, do it while you've still got the energy while you're young. And the, the pot of gold at the end of this rainbow was supposed to be that there would be enough overlap between the tail end of my prime and the beginning of my kids that I could have like a real still functioning and not cognitively declined relationship even like physically be able to like do hiking and sports and like keep up for a little bit while they made their way into adulthood and I finally like finally got there last Saturday and in no part of that experience did AI play any role whatsoever.

35:13Luke Lafreniere:AI had nothing to do with all of those mornings, like nine, 10 years ago, going to the rec center and just hitting all the times that I drove them to and from lessons, like AI not present at all. Actually, I've been driving that self-driving Tesla this week and I've had another week of basically flawless experiences with it. It's been kind of outstanding. and it got me thinking there was there was some time that it would have been very convenient to send the car to go get my kid and and bring them back and i went wait no because the car is actually one of the primary places that you can pin down your kids and they can't escape anywhere and you

35:58Linus Sebastian:can talk to them my mom used to say that she like used to say i don't know i think she'd still say this uh that when we were growing up she didn't want to send my brother and i on the bus too much because it was like you know it's it yeah basically what you just said she could effectively corner us and get us to like talk about school or whatever else was going on you got nowhere else to go yeah you got nothing else to do might as well what are you gonna do tuck and roll yeah yeah

36:27Luke Lafreniere:if she starts asking you about that you know that that girl that you were messaging or whatever like you got no choice you got no choice yeah anyway I

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36:41Linus Sebastian:back to back to YouTube features

36:44Luke Lafreniere:yeah I just I don't want I don't want this stuff

36:47Linus Sebastian:YouTube's been going down a a rough path

36:55Linus Sebastian:it's tough though like I don't know what you everything has to be sold we've talked on Wancho before about how like one of the most universally valuable degrees would be a business degree because everything has to be sold you have to be sold you have to be sold to prospective employers you have to be sold to prospective partners you have to be sold all the time um Sammy apparently wants to say things uh um but I I so I I want to and and like Like everyone has to sell something to someone basically all the time. So if you're running YouTube, you have to sell to Alphabet, I guess, what your future path for YouTube is.

37:50Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, how you're going to keep generating a return. And it's not enough to tread water. No. That's not what a multi-trillion dollar multinational organization expects.

38:00Linus Sebastian:They want to know how you're going to be beating TikTok and they want to know how you're going to be beating Netflix because that's a primary competitor now. Yeah. And they want to know how you're going to be beating all these things and retaining all these creators and getting new creators come to your platform and being innovative and being on top of everything. And they want to know all that kind of stuff. And what do you do right now? What do you sell to them right now? And your answer could be, you could be watching this and your answer could be, we are YouTube, not AI tube. And we're not going to promote shorts and we're not going to promote AI made content.

38:32Linus Sebastian:And it's just going to get fired so fast. And that's a, that's a wonderful answer. And I love it. And I agree with you. And that's great. And you're not going to run YouTube. And it's just like, it is what it is. So I, I hate it. I hate this path. I hate that shorts are being promoted so much. I hate that AI content is being defended I hate that AI content is not only being defended but is they're gonna help you make it but at the same time it's like I don't know

39:06Linus Sebastian:it's tough I don't see them going a different direction than this I don't if there's a ton of public outcry all kind of stuff I still don't see it necessarily changing

39:17Luke Lafreniere:there's a few more there's more but wait there's more yeah um on the community side youtube is testing an opt-in ai comment moderation feature that learns to mimic a channel's own moderation style um there's another cool one that i actually noticed that i like when i reply to a comment now in the studio um i'll get a notification after i reply that there were like 10 other people who had a similar comment and based on my response it'll draft a response to them that i can go approve approve approve approve approve and it's actually been pretty good throwing that out there auto mod has

39:54Linus Sebastian:also been a thing that's something forever uh not actually forever but for quite a while now um i don't know about it taking actions it's suggesting actions i think it's totally cool

40:06Luke Lafreniere:um it taking actions is maybe a little much yeah finally likeness detection is something that is already a thing but will expand to detect unauthorized use of a creator's voice as well as their likeness youtube says that billions of channels are eligible to sign up for automated deepfake detection as well now you came across a channel yes right as we were starting the show that is apparently using my likeness uh what what were they doing exactly so it's this channel home

40:33Linus Sebastian:fi i just what is it like some slop channel or what is it i have no idea um this is what the thumbnail was i don't know why it's showing for every single chapter i don't know if that's normal or not but this is what the thumbnail was i saw this thumbnail in the sidebar saw linus is

40:50Luke Lafreniere:that a real me or is that an ai me i i actually can't tell that might be a real me that might be from one of our TikTok hacks videos.

40:59Linus Sebastian:Yeah, it looks real you to me. It's getting hard to tell these days, but it looks real you. And then I... Oh, it's not from one of those videos. I clicked on the video because I was trying to figure out is this stolen content that is just re-uploaded somewhere. And no, as far as I can tell. Oh, man. Yeah. Chrome is locked up again. Is that a real board? um and that looks like it's potentially also fake um but yeah there's there's there's a lot basically there's no linus in this video okay despite being in the thumbnail and as far as i can tell so they just ripped off my likeness for the thumbnail as far as i can tell it's because of this featured gear and products uh proxmark 3 proxmark 3 proxmark 3 is the top product listed Oh, okay.

41:50Linus Sebastian:So it's just farming. The title is Proxmark 3. How to use a$12 Proxmark 3. So I think it's just generated content that is trying to sell stuff. Got it. Okay. I think.

42:04Luke Lafreniere:Can't really tell what's going on. All right. For live streamers, but wait, there's more. They're now able to tap a new React Live button on any eligible long form video or live stream to jump right into the conversations happening across the platform. whatever exactly that means. What it sounds like to me is that basically they're building reactions into the platform in a way that might actually credit the original creator of the video. I have not looked into this more deeply though, but that actually sounds like a major positive, but only if it actually changes live streamers habits. Because if they continue to just embed the original content into what they claim is their content, then there will be no revenue share and it's going to continue to be a problem.

42:54Luke Lafreniere:Live creator matchmaking is supposed to simplify co-streaming by allowing streamers to enter a quick match queue to let YouTubers automatically pair with similar creators. I mean, this is stuff that has got to be live meta stuff that I just don't get because we don't really live. Live showdown is essentially like the TikTok battles system where viewers send chats, GIFs and super chats to push their creator's score forward on screen in real time. What? So they compete to give more money to the creator that they want to win.

43:25Linus Sebastian:Oh, it's just Twitch train things, whatever they're called, hype trains.

43:28Luke Lafreniere:Okay. And then live auto-dubbing is coming in early 2027, which will automatically translate live broadcast so viewers can listen along in their preferred language. Sure. There's a few viewer features. Short series. Shorts can now be grouped into seasons and episodes. That could actually be a benefit for viewers. so for like uh micro dramas is a big thing apparently they can be watched sequentially as well like as you're scrolling each one will come up ask youtube is getting a shopping feature that lets you receive organized video recommendations such as a comparison table that includes product attributes and categories based on your preference great so fewer reasons to actually watch the videos that's good youtube will also be supporting gif comments um okay one step closer to video responses i guess let's uh let's go and that was supported by billy billy and then finally YouTube announces custom feeds a way for users to build their own algorithm with AI and hookers it's powered by Gemini and users can either write a short or a long description of what they want to see what to exclude and what to prioritize each custom feed gets its own tab that's pinned at the top of your homepage a wired writer tested out the feature asking to see gooey macaroni and cheese recipe videos Caleb here in clip compilations and Crystal Singing Bull videos under 15 minutes.

44:48Luke Lafreniere:And according to them, the feed it generated was exactly that. Custom feeds are currently starting with a US-only rollout for now. Let's move on. I think I've talked about this as much as I possibly can today.

45:02Linus Sebastian:There was a question of what custom feed would you want.

45:06Luke Lafreniere:Ooh.

45:10Luke Lafreniere:You know, this would be kind of a hack. because normally I open YouTube to find something specific. I need a guide for X. All right. Like I am one of those freaks who still uses search. And what often happens to me is it'll have some legendary badminton clip of like Lee Chong Wei playing someone or whatever or something. And I'll like, I'll click the damn thing. And then now I'm, now I'm like doing something other than what I was supposed to be doing. So you get ADD maxed. So here's a crazy idea. What if I intentionally made my homepage stuff that I'm completely not interested in? So I make it like butterflies and like slime videos, and then I can just ignore it every time I see it.

46:00Luke Lafreniere:I feel like that's probably the first thing I would do with it. Brilliant. Brilliant. Brett says it would be cool if Linus made a weird feed like his unhinged Facebook marketplace. Okay, that's pretty smart too. But that would only The Facebook marketplace one is only fun to me Because it's real stuff I can actually buy That's the fun part Is that if I was feeling Impulsive enough and I had enough money Burning a hole in my pocket I could put it in my house tomorrow That's what's interesting It's window shopping To me YouTube videos are not something I window shop

46:36Linus Sebastian:I don't know if I don't think this would even work But I've been really enjoying like a handful of creators lately and I think one of the buckets I would put them in is like low cortisol content hmm

46:54Luke Lafreniere:so more chill chill vibes sorry I can be more chill today is this better?

47:02Linus Sebastian:no

47:06Linus Sebastian:I did something in my brain does not like it when you talk like that

47:10Luke Lafreniere:Get a little closer to the mic It's throwing me off Just do the rest of the show like this No I'd like to talk about GTA 6 special edition I'm so upset

47:22Linus Sebastian:I hate this

47:23Luke Lafreniere:What about it Linus? Well the Rockstar store is taking pre-orders This is Specifically raising my cortisol It's for a$400 Premium collector's box But the box doesn't include GTA 6 That doesn't sound very premium, does it, Linus? No, and not having GTA 6 in a GTA 6 is kind of like not having cornflakes in a box of cornflakes. I love cornflakes. It makes such a tasty, crunchy sound. But it does have a copy of Boggle.

47:58Luke Lafreniere:Now, you said you had a hot take on this. I do have a hot take on this. I already know what your hot take is. Okay, you know what? Hold on. Can I write it? Can I write it? Okay.

48:10Linus Sebastian:Let's do the thing. I wonder if it's going to be... I have a... Not... I wouldn't say low, but lower than normal confidence that you'll get this one. I was typing for a while, so maybe you will get it. Okay. Go for it. First of all, we're all acting like this is a first. No, no, don't read it. First of all, we're all acting like this is a first. This has been happening for a long time. Not just with GTA. tons of different games the collector's edition not coming with the game itself okay the reason why they've been doing that is because they don't have to make a bunch of individual ones for all the different consoles and pc and everything else they just make one collector's edition and then you buy the game on whatever you want it on um and then i almost i don't remember my second point for some reason uh yeah i think i think my second point is kind of that i just i don't actually care i saw a lot of people flip out over this and it's like whatever i didn't get it no what yeah what was it you should buy it anyways uh it cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make what i can't see but yeah yeah yeah okay well yeah completely i think that was like implied so like you still kind of got it like like okay but seriously yeah i think the kind of second part of my point of like i don't care was more or less if you're if you're mad about this us dollars it's only because you just were

49:41Luke Lafreniere:going to give them an unlimited amount of money anyway they might as well milk you yeah go be

49:46Linus Sebastian:yeah so you you effectively got it um but i just like this this is this is genuinely been happening with collector's editions for a long time and the primary reason was because they're they generally make a fixed amount of collector's editions yeah and then they have to try to divide it up amongst pc playstation xbox all that other kind of stuff and it's really annoying and it's pretty common that like one of them will have a bunch of versions left and the other ones don't the sure as heck won't be a pc one but like it's and another thing that would happen too is people would buy like people would have a xbox buy the playstation one because the xbox ones were sold out or more realistically the other way around um they they would then have to try to flip the key that's inside buy it anyways yep and then like try to i don't know you don't get the cool stuff in game because you just sold that key i guess i don't know streamline it yeah and you

50:37Luke Lafreniere:sheep were gonna buy it anyway so 100 they might as well take your money yep yeah it also makes it

50:43Linus Sebastian:so that like if they end up selling the collector's edition later people could have bought in on the pre-order right away or or you know vice versa yeah like it i actually kind of think it makes a lot of sense and I don't really know why people are so upset about it either. If you were going to spend$400 on like some glasses and a freaking sling bag and some stickers, as far as I can tell, it's like everything that was in there, then

51:10Luke Lafreniere:you can afford the game, bruh. I don't understand being upset about something that you so don't need. And is incredibly solvable.

51:21Linus Sebastian:They are not stopping you from buying the game. yeah it was confusing when it first started happening it first started happening I think like a decade ago all right like yeah the halo helmet the halo helmet that you lifted off the stand and the game was inside the helmet that was pretty sick you would have bought that if it didn't have the game in it you would have just bought that and the game tell me I'm wrong I don't believe you you didn't even wait for me to tell you you were wrong. I wouldn't have believed you. There's no shot. Oh, no.

52:01Luke Lafreniere:All right.

52:02Linus Sebastian:I think, if anything, I think it's kind of nice because I've gone in for collector's editions a few times and it's been annoying. As a PC player, usually the ones that are available are console locked. And it's like, well, I don't want this freaking thing.

52:16Luke Lafreniere:Right. I'd rather give you the same amount of money and not have a console game that I can flip. Ideally, the price comes down. I can see why people are mad that - But it was never going to be the same amount of money. That microtransactions have become macrotransactions. It was never going to be the same amount of money. I get it. I get why people are mad, but I guess to me, it's just really not that hard to not buy it.

52:39Linus Sebastian:Rockstar was going to unabashedly charge even more for this. I guarantee it. If it had to include the game, they would have happily charged more for this.

52:47Luke Lafreniere:What is the most you think that Rockstar could have charged for this and still sold out? for this in particular okay let's see what you get you get

53:01Linus Sebastian:I don't even know I don't even know what to say about that you get a little gator figurine uh-huh uh I love as well when collector's editions come with some figurine like this yeah that is something I mean maybe I didn't play enough GTA 5 but like I don't recognize this character so it's probably some like weird one-off side character from the game that you haven't played yet and you're buying a collector's edition. He's like, what? Anyways. Glasses. Mike.

53:31Luke Lafreniere:Some basic looking glasses.

53:33Linus Sebastian:Mike cares are currently completely zero. Okay. They say Vice City on them? Okay, sure. Is the new game in Vice City? Yep. Okay. A fanny pack. That is a cheap looking fanny pack. I'm assuming this is like Velcroable sticker things or not stickers you know what I mean

53:50Luke Lafreniere:does have a YKK zipper pull so at least they like spent money on that that's a cool hat sure a magnetic mirror reflect on your life choices the self-awareness is so high here on rock stars part not the people buying this stuff

54:15Linus Sebastian:Holy. Just a shot glass? Yeah. Swizzle spoon? Okay. Dan, is this drugs? Why would you ask Dan? Depends on the size of the spoon.

54:30Luke Lafreniere:That's what I thought immediately.

54:33Linus Sebastian:You ask why I asked Dan. Listen, just keep scrolling. Let's ignore this.

54:37Luke Lafreniere:Oh my God. Oh my God.

54:42Linus Sebastian:Dan is this for drugs? I'm also experienced.

54:50Luke Lafreniere:I have tips.

54:55Linus Sebastian:An enamel pin set in a metal tin. So you get nine of them. Some stickers. Imagine putting those stickers on anything. I bet nobody does. A souvenir poster map. $40 stickers. So if you want the cool map that used to come with the game for free, you now have to buy a$400 US dollar collector's edition to get it. I'm assuming the game doesn't have it anymore. Okay, that's it? And that's it. And that's the money. And that's why I think they would have had no problem charging you$100 more if they included the game. Yeah. So I don't think that's a relevant thing.

55:29Luke Lafreniere:I think they could have gone as high as like$599 on that. I think they could have gotten away with it and still not had the game in it. And I think people just would have bought it. I think it really comes down to how many of these they made. cat os you're not it's not worth 75 bucks like that just the fact that there's like oakley sunglasses in there at all is like more than 75 bucks like you gotta look i'm not gonna say it's worth 400 but we've also got to be somewhat realistic um all right we are apparently speaking of buying stuff that hopefully is worth the money that you pay for it uh we are supposed to do the CW announcements.

56:09Luke Lafreniere:Now listen, I know at the beginning of September I said, hey, look at this cool new concept we have where instead of launching one product every week, we're going to do like a huge drop in a given month and slow down on the like weekly launches. Well, apparently we didn't do that at all because the apparel team is absolutely cooking with gas lately. uh what yeah cat os i don't know what oakley's are so they're they're a brand they're owned by estler luxotica they charge money for their stuff um okay cool anyway that explains why you thought it was gonna be so cheap yeah uh do you want to fire up the store yes dude do we ever have some drops for you guys this week the tech sling is a smaller carry option for your everyday tech when you don't need to bring an entire backpack with you.

57:03Luke Lafreniere:It has a dedicated space for your handheld gaming device. It accommodates the Steam Deck and similar size devices. Plus, it has a padded back panel to give your gear some extra protection. The inside also has a sectional organizer that can be completely removed. So you can keep the compartments when you want to stay organized, or you can take it out when you just need a big open space. As always, YKK zippers in all the places. We've got little pouches in there. We've got, this is like a, sorry, this would be the loop side of hook and loop. So if you wanted to put some hooky things in there, then you could do that.

57:43Luke Lafreniere:There's a, there you go, RFID blocking inner pocket right here. If you want to use it for, you know, going out for the day when you're traveling. we've also got kind of a little sort of mini tech sack inspired organizer here with some various zipper and less zipper pockets got our little uh pen holder here and then just to show you guys kind of how it works have we got some pictures on the site of um what it looks like with different devices yeah yeah cool uh we don't say it explicitly in my notes here but uh here do you want to zoom a bit so that people can see there you go so that's what it looks like it's got um again not velcro hook and loop it's got hook and loop that can be reconfigured according to the size of the device that you need to put into it to make it a nice snug fit um so you can see it right there with either a switch to or with a steam deck and it's just kind of stretched and

58:43Linus Sebastian:and snugged out if you're looking at what he just did and went like it would be way easier if he had a device in it when he tried to do that because then you're literally just wrapping it around a

58:53Luke Lafreniere:device somebody had asked if it fits your ioneo or if you had tried that but if it's adjustable then it's adjustable so maybe message support if you're not 100 sure you're not there we go but the whole idea is basically that you can just you just pull the loop set it up to accommodate whatever it is that you need. And then because it's hook and loop all over the inside, you just pop it in there, secure it in there, and boop, there it is with the Switch 2. There you go.

59:25Luke Lafreniere:And then... You got an RFID blocking... I mentioned that. ...pouch in the back?

59:29Linus Sebastian:Okay.

59:31Luke Lafreniere:With the Switch 2, it can also accommodate an iPad Mini, but I already took the Switch 2 out, so I guess I'm not showing you guys that. So it can accommodate both at the same time. And then if you have something bigger and bulky, here man guys matthew really cooked on this one getting something that could accommodate something as big as a steam deck and as skinny as a switch or a switch too while still offering padding accommodations for uh for your uh joysticks uh screen safe materials it's it's it's a pretty cool product. Anyway, so I'll just pop that in there. Boop. And boop. And there it is.

1:00:11Luke Lafreniere:There it is with a Steam Deck. Cool, right? Yeah.

1:00:15Linus Sebastian:Also, it also fits one that we didn't do a demo of, which is a 40-ounce water bottle. Okay, that's crazy. If you want to just toss that in there.

1:00:23Luke Lafreniere:You can. I don't think people are going to buy this to carry a water bottle, but yeah, it'll fit. But just for reference for size, really. In other news, finally after all these years hey Dan can I borrow you have an OG bag right are you on the commuter can I borrow your OG bag Okay, when we were developing this product and when we launched it, we talked about how we went and put these little webbing-inspired loops here, here, here, and also here. with the idea being that we would develop accessories to perhaps one day attach to them. It's been 83 years, but finally we have the wireless earbuds carrying case.

1:01:23Luke Lafreniere:It's just a cute little bag. It fits your AirPods or your other wireless.

1:01:28Linus Sebastian:I know someone who's been product demoing this for quite some time, Mr. Sean Caldera, and he uses them for tons of different stuff. I know we advertise them as headphone case, but he uses them for like cables and lots of other things.

1:01:42Luke Lafreniere:Do you want to pull up the site? Got it already. You can show people how the attachment mechanism works. Basically, yeah, there you go. That's a really good shot. So there's a couple different ways that it can attach. Thank you, Dan. Either through the little carabiner loop or if you wanted to full dad style, put it on something like a belt or any other kind of strappy thing. It's got one of these nice little click into place things That then has a nice little release So you can carry whatever you want in it Subtle branding It's finally here And it's a molly clip That's what it's called Thank you Thank you for having that in the notes And then finally We're bringing back the RGB beanie Now available in two fun new colors Navy and off-white And in short and regular fits Depending on whether you want a more Sort of snug Or a more slouchy look It's multi-napped yarn with little flecks of color woven throughout.

1:02:40Luke Lafreniere:Actually, you might want to go to the site for this one as well.

1:02:41Linus Sebastian:Sure, I want to show one quick thing before I switched, which is that you can remove the carabiner portion if you're just using the molly clip. So you can take that off so it's not dangling being annoying. And I also want to show you an incredibly legendary photo. That was at the very end. I was just like, holy crap, the swag of this is incredible. And I just wanted to make sure everyone saw that. and then now I can go to... This is me being bad.

1:03:10Luke Lafreniere:New arrivals. Okay. There it is. Yeah, so just get a close-up. Yeah, there you go. So you can see the little bit of fun, fun color that's woven into it. And then you can also see the two kind of different sizes there as well. All right. So that's it. So now's as good a time as any. lmg.gg slash sept drop, like sept sept like sept drop to send in a checkout message so if you haven't been paying attention hype trains twitch bits super chats those are not the way to interact with the wan show we will by all means take your money feel free to throw your money at the screen we just feel that when you're done throwing your money at the screen you should get some pretty exciting hype new products in return rather than just acknowledgement but we can do acknowledgement too.

1:04:00Luke Lafreniere:So all you got to do is head over to our website, lttstore.com. That's also our website, lttlabs.com, but specifically this one, go ahead and add any of these fun new items or anything else from our September drop into your cart. When you're in the checkout, you'll get a chance to send a message that will go to producer Dan. There he is, who will pop it up on screen like that one that just popped up there, or he'll reply to it, or he will curate it for me and Luke to respond to why don't we do a couple of comms right now and we'll show you guys kind of how it works sure i've got a bunch here already hey a wan.dll would an rgb edition of the true spec cable be something in the future like different colors outside of just blacks think i would love to do other colors right now our primary concern is that we are at the manufacturing capacity of our cable manufacturer in fact they have quite significantly increased their manufacturing capacity in order to accommodate us and our ongoing orders for those cables, as well as the development of other cables that we want to do.

1:05:06Luke Lafreniere:So we are in the weeds on HDMI, DisplayPort, angled connectors. HDMI, DisplayPort would be real nice.

1:05:16Linus Sebastian:I was dealing with one of those problems a week or so ago, had a bunch of cables, even from some quite reputable brands, brands but that just had no labeling on it at all couldn't figure what was going on yeah it's

1:05:27Luke Lafreniere:pretty frustrating um we're also i i have asked the team to explore having like a very complete offering even including going back to micro b um usb b as well whoa because like docks is a great example of products that need a high quality b cable all the audio equipment i have a bunch of old audio equipment that's usbb i know they're against the spec so i haven't 100 settled on this but extensions are another one that i i feel i almost feel like rebel i feel like we have to do because um i i was running into some really annoying issues with my um with my z-wave um stick so it turns out that it's like a well-known issue that you're supposed to use a usb 2 extension in order to get it away from your rear i.o where uh the high frequency usb 3 can like cause interference with z-wave and blah blah blah blah blah anyway the point is i was trying to find a decent shielded extension and i just was having a heck of a time and so fine i'll just

1:06:37Linus Sebastian:i'll make it myself then um what yeah i feel like you could have kind of like a sub line of products that are like, there is no spec for this. Well, yeah.

1:06:49Luke Lafreniere:I'm on the fence about it because the whole idea of true spec is that it is the spec. And the first thing people are going to do when you make an extension is they're going to plug another cable into it. And as soon as they do that, you're well beyond what they're rated for and they're going to have a bad time and now it's our fault.

1:07:10Linus Sebastian:True spec rebel, dude. I'll think about it I think it's sick I think it's wicked also I would get USB A to B like USB 2 A to B I would probably get a couple of those

1:07:25Luke Lafreniere:yeah because there's just

1:07:26Linus Sebastian:there are still multiple things I use that are like that and hunting for one of those old cables is a nightmare and hubs hubs are another one hubs are very common hubs and docks yeah and stuff like old hubs and old audio equipment like they're probably still fine mm-hmm You don't need a new one.

1:07:42Luke Lafreniere:Oh, dude, audio equipment is a great example of something that I would want to use a true spec cable for. Not because it'll make your bits sound better. I need one so badly. If I look at mine incorrectly, it disconnects from the computer. And I, you know, if you touch it, if you breathe on it, it disconnects. And it's very irritating. Yeah. So we're going to, so between all of those things, different colors of sheathing are pretty low on the list of priorities yeah and once we have dramatically expanded the lineup of cables you know once we've got 150 250 skews the second you add another color why not 500 skews yeah well i can think of reasons that's fine so for now you can have them in any color you want as long as it's black thank you mr ford uh hi dll i vibe coded a parsec host for linux works with their client for myself but i'm torn about releasing it due to the ethics and stigma around reverse engineered slash vibe coded software thoughts wow i feel like we could talk about this for a while i don't think there's a right answer i think there's a personal answer and it also depends on how exactly you're planning to do it um like i would have i can tell you right now i wouldn't use it uh i would have a lot of discomfort around using anything to do with my data computer or screen capture um that i just sort of randomly downloaded um i actually had someone reach out by email telling me about a really cool tool that they're working on not a vibe coded project but just related to this for reasons i'll get to in a moment um that was designed to you know finally fix once and for all file transfer speeds uh just over you know because everyone's seen it right You've got a 10 gig network connection and you're transferring files at like, you know, 350 megabytes a second.

1:10:01Luke Lafreniere:What are we doing here? Like, how is this not, you know, solved? How is this not just, you know, built into Windows and TrueNAS? How do they not just handshake and just transfer the damn files? And so they were originally, you know, telling me, oh, yeah, I was going to do it like as open source. I was going to do this. I was going to do that. but now I'm thinking I want to do it like paid with a subscription. And I was like, cool, that's nice. Good luck, pretty much. Because like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to use that. I have no interest in a file transfer software from a random that you're asking money for that is not going to be like community code audited.

1:10:43Luke Lafreniere:And they even offered to send the source code like to us to, but like what, I'm going to read it? Like I'm, no. And like the whole point of something, you know, being developed out in the open is that you get more than one pair of eyes on it, ideally, assuming that it's something that actually, you know, builds any momentum. And so coming back to this, like if you haven't baked anything, you know, any malware or anything nasty into it, then, you know, that's great. That's something cool. You can by all means throw it out there. But don't be surprised if there is some backlash because.

1:11:20Linus Sebastian:I don't think there's gonna be much backlash if you really that's that's my hot take on this if you release it openly if you communicate clearly about what it is and if you don't try to be all like well I made it and I'm going to charge you for it or I made it and I'm going to put it under some crazy license limiting you from doing things if you just put it on the most open license you possibly can and because i mean an ai made it meaning basically no one owns anything which is the same thing as art um and you just let it out there then it is what it is i would maybe prepare yourself and not sign up for maintaining it for everybody um because you won't know how if you vibe coded it yeah uh so i mean you could you could just add even more vibe coding stuff r slash self-hosted hates any vibe quoted project which is funny because people even before ai have always made terrible software the difference is a random comment in full paint chat uh okay there's you're not yeah i mean i'm in your camp i would not run this but i might see that and go oh okay and make my own because to me it's information i i see that as oh this is possible i never thought about making your own connector for parsec i would not have assumed that was a thing that would work but like oh okay i can actually do that yeah i'll make my own thanks for the thanks for the man is

1:12:53Luke Lafreniere:that a fragmented future that is we really want oh it's the fragmented future we're gonna have

1:12:58Linus Sebastian:i know but is that what we want i don't i don't know if it's what we want but i can pretty much guarantee you we're gonna have it getting used to it now the amount of one-off personal software oh wait i don't think we've talked about this you have no idea you have no clue it's doing the thing again it sure is and it probably should wow there are youtubers making video editors for themselves oh that video editing software for themselves that is working better for them than premiere and a big part of the reason why is in a lot of these cases they have very specific ways that they edit their videos yeah you're gonna have very specific footage formats that come in

1:13:40Luke Lafreniere:they have very specific formats very specific ones they need to output they don't need all that other

1:13:44Linus Sebastian:cruft yep there i i know multiple people at this point that have made their own financial management software right where it takes information from their bank accounts and their credit cards and brings it all in and analyzes their spending for them and gives them information on how well they're doing and where they should pull back and all this other type of stuff. See, I married mine. They feel like they can trust that more, which is interesting because it's self-hosted. It's their own thing. And because they made it, they feel like it's less likely. You know how a bunch of credit card companies will be like, oh yeah and we have like financial planning and like warnings enabled in our thing but you know what their motivation is yep so now the motivation for this thing is i don't know it's vibe whatever you tell it i made it myself and i'm gonna tell it what i want to happen and it'll work that way um it's there is a massive wave of one-off just made for me vibe-coded software happening already right now that is already a thing we are already you talked about like is the future fragmented software and it's like no the now is fragmented software it's already happening

1:15:02Luke Lafreniere:so how do you oh uh-huh because like there's no like the knock-on effects are impossible for us to fully oh and the security problems are mind-blowing like there's like there's already i i wasn't even i'm not even thinking from like a software architecture standpoint because that's not my problem sure i have a department of people that worries about that like my i'm looking at it going okay so what is your career mobility if you learn to if you learn to video edit in you know john sweet you know what i mean like you get what I mean like I go to hire someone to to join our company where we use I only know temple OS

1:15:52Luke Lafreniere:okay but here's a counter you know what does that what does that do to your resume if if you spend three years editing on some like vibe coded edit software and you come into and now we're using

1:16:04Linus Sebastian:linus cut like what i i here's a here's a here's a counter would you be using linus cut or would you be using individual versions for each person just bring your copy of john sweet to the next

1:16:19Luke Lafreniere:job what happens if what happens if emily you know uh is sick on friday and her video needs to be finished by Peter tough luck get f***ed Peter basically like is that are we robbing from Peter to pay

1:16:35Linus Sebastian:or he if Peter needs to hey please AI please adapt this thing please let me continue editing it maybe

1:16:44Luke Lafreniere:who knows I'm not buying credits for that

1:16:48Linus Sebastian:you don't know what you're buying credits for boy this is true

1:16:55Linus Sebastian:people going type no luke no it's not me bro

1:17:03Linus Sebastian:so i'm telling you what's happening not that i am doing it myself these are all luke's real thoughts and this is how our company functions i told everyone globally to do this it's it's me

1:17:15Luke Lafreniere:it's purely my fault i will i will take this you and my girl taylor it's me hi i'm the problem it's me yeah yeah yeah yeah but yeah it's it's a huge thing it's a huge deal um i mean we

1:17:32Linus Sebastian:were it's it's interesting to me we were just talking about this with home automation stuff

1:17:36Luke Lafreniere:you're literally doing this yourself dude okay you know how i've shown you in the past how limited my interactions are with like the various uh ais in my life yeah um hold on hold on now that i've been just like diving headfirst into home automation this is this is what my gemini history looks like

1:18:07Luke Lafreniere:like and and that doesn't even include a lot of the stuff from like the last week or so because i was hanging out with uh steven and lucas from the lab and we finally got my local LLM machine working so I so like uh some of the stuff that basically Odysseus is a wonderful idea and its vibe codedness did not work very well for my particular hardware on my particular operating system or a couple other operating systems I tried and some other hardware I tried um cookbook is a is a really cool idea in theory but in practice compared to LM studio where I just like noticed was like here's my hardware and it just immediately configures it

1:18:49Linus Sebastian:perfectly um I have noticed that Odysseus has lost a lot of its traction since it launched yeah and but there's like there's still cool things in it yeah cookbook is really cool yeah it's a cool

1:19:02Luke Lafreniere:idea yeah too bad it like didn't work at all yeah for me for me um and like it was driving me nuts because I went with it because, A, it's PewDiePie, right? So if I was thinking from a video angle standpoint, I tried PewDiePie's AI thing. So that was reason number one. And then reason number two was that it's supposed to be the brain-dead simple, just for noobs.

1:19:28Linus Sebastian:Generally positioned like that.

1:19:30Luke Lafreniere:And so I was like, let's see just how noob-friendly it was. The answer was not very. um it ended up involving a lot of tomfoolery in order to get it to do anything so

1:19:40Linus Sebastian:fire panda sasquatch said gemini is the worst ai right now too lol uh and i kind of i don't agree

1:19:50Luke Lafreniere:uh chat gpt has been worse for me than gemini first like not even close i find the hallucinations that Gemini has have been nuts. So for what I've been doing, it's been like practically, like I was about 50-50 OpenAI and Gemini. So maybe part of it is that Google gave me like a year of some elevated Gemini. Oh, are you just on basic chat, open free chat GPT? No, I paid for it for a while and it wasn't much better. So I canceled it.

1:20:23Linus Sebastian:Weird.

1:20:23Luke Lafreniere:So between the, I was 50-50 between the two of them, kind of benchmarking them between each other. And Gemini, like I would waste like 45 minutes in Gemini and then chat GPT and then Gemini would one shot it and just tell me exactly what I needed to do.

1:20:40Linus Sebastian:Interesting. Yeah, interesting.

1:20:44Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, I mean, and like to be clear, I'm doing something very specific. I'm just getting help with Home Assistant. Like almost all of this is just... uh this boiler network ip setup uh this uh home assistant integration for an alarm system uh this issue with these sensor templates uh this custom hacks integration for my robot vacuum this

1:21:11Linus Sebastian:like it's all just like yeah i i find like the and i haven't tested you know your use case or specifically home assistant or whatever else so you might be totally right and who cares uh what one of the things with like is this ai model better than the other one is that's a very tough thing to conclusively answer yeah so i don't know i just know that i've seen some of the hallucinations that i've seen from gemini even up until now are like the crazy stuff we were talking about last year which a lot of other ones don't seem to be doing like it'll make a mistake and then just spam shame 700 times i haven't seen that a single time in all of that yeah i mean it's not that common but yeah okay you'll also see it more in it's like thinking context uh instead of what it actually sends to the user um which is a little wild uh the the current flavor of the month seems to be clawed um but who knows what it'll be two months from now right now i have a

1:22:06Luke Lafreniere:free account for this one and it's doing what i need it to do have you been messing around with uh i haven't tried codex so you well you got local stuff working have you messed around with that much not enough yet got it so far it's just doing chatbot things for me and i'm kind of like i'm i'm still um like i still haven't i haven't done much in terms of configuration and like hooks like i've i've got it searching the web now but i got like almost immediately gated by duck duck go and it won't let me search anymore so i guess i'm gonna have to sign up for a paid search or i'm gonna have to like get more api access to duck duck go somehow however you do that i still have not i have literally not even done a google search for how to do that yet i'm sure it's not complicated but um what i've what i've been spending most of my time on is now that i have a now that i have a model running at all the thing i'm trying to do because for me it's about accomplishing something i'm not just trying to hook as many things into it and run as many models as I can and then sort of imagine something to do with it, I'm coming at it with a very specific goal.

1:23:18Luke Lafreniere:My goal is home automations and using a multimodal model that I can interact with the natural language and also give images to so that it can activate or deactivate various home automations. That's the goal. And so what I'm still working on is actually more of the Home Assistant stuff and more of the like HexOS software that I need running on my server in order to act as a traffic controller for all of that. Because like, say for instance, I want it to play a particular playlist when a particular person comes in. Okay, so I need to make sure that I have my integration working for Ubiquity, which involved a whole thing where I had to figure out like API key access because they don't just do username and password in the RTMP stream or RTSP, whichever one it is.

1:24:09Luke Lafreniere:They don't do it that way anymore. So I had to figure that out. And then I had to figure out how to have that work over like the secure, like better version of it. And then I had to figure out how to get that actually integrated into Home Assistant. Then I needed all the entities to actually flag when there's a person. Then what I learned is actually, that's not the best way to do it. What I really need is frigate so that I can have a particular frame so that, oh, by the way, I need to get a bunch of reference frames. Okay, so where am I going to store those? And so I'm still kind of in the weeds of like, okay, how do I create this flow?

1:24:38Luke Lafreniere:where the camera, because I have kind of older Ubiquiti cameras, they offered to send me newer ones, the G6s that have like way more edge AI built into them so that you can, like I think they have a much greater breadth of things that they can recognize and that they can trigger events with. But I have the older G4 Pros. And honestly, I was a little more interested in retrofitting. Like, I'm way more interested in leaving my existing cameras, even if they have crappier sensors, but then like bolting on like this AI processing. So pretty much what I wanted to do is, okay, that's a person, grab that, capture that, send that over, do the analysis, and then feed that back into Home Assistant and trigger some kind of an automation.

1:25:36Luke Lafreniere:Um, I'm still, I'm still finding very little time to work on it. Unfortunately, life is busy. I have three kids. I run a company. Um, it's not that unfortunately there's, there's, there's just like, you know, I got stuff going on and I know, man, like the lighting automations, basically I have relearned how to do it probably half a dozen different times. And every time I relearned how to do a lighting automation, I realized that every room that I had worked on up until then was absolute garbage and needed to be thrown away. And I'm finding it's exactly the same with anything to do with LLMs and local AI is that I'm just trying to, on as accelerated a path as I can, learn it as many wrong ways as I need to before I get to a way that is more right.

1:26:25Luke Lafreniere:And then by next week, there will be a righter way to do it anyway. And I'm just having fun. Yeah. I think that's for me the most important part.

1:26:32Linus Sebastian:shrugged and say like said basically it's not bad that it's taking a while because like who cares yeah having fun with it that's sick

1:26:43Linus Sebastian:rod rosenberg the man said ai key is a nice boost to detections in g4 cameras yeah i asked them

1:26:50Luke Lafreniere:about that and they were like yes that would work by the way do you want to just um get some g6s they never told me if i was buying them or if they were sending them i didn't ask i was like I'm going to try and I want to do the clunky version, but I might pick up an AI key. Yeah, it's just it's a little accessory that you can add to a Ubiquiti and VR system. Here, I'm going to see AI key, see if I can find it. Yeah, here it is. It's not cheap. It's like a grand. But when you compare that to like, you know, building an AI compute box and bolting that on, obviously, this is a great deal. but I think it gets it pretty much up to what the G6s do is my my understanding even then though like 1800 smart detections per hour it's not even like that much I don't know if you can have multiples of them either like I have not looked into it enough good lord it has 16 gigs of ram honestly it seems like a pretty good deal for a grand given the pricing of everything right now I hate that that is the first thing I think of when I see that though

1:28:01Luke Lafreniere:so yeah speaking of ai i did hear about the comma ai investigations there's like a half a dozen or so um yes bad bad traffic incidents uh around comma ai devices i think with any autonomous vehicle thing um there's gonna be some some bad stuff that happens and hopefully they can address it in a constructive way and move forward.

1:28:30Linus Sebastian:Oh, this person's joking. I want to check it out.

1:28:33Luke Lafreniere:Okay.

1:28:37Linus Sebastian:Oh, yeah. There's a memory surcharge. Did you see that? No.

1:28:50Linus Sebastian:With the surcharge included, it's an extra hundred. 90 Why don't they just say 1235?

1:28:58Luke Lafreniere:Yeah I don't know So like if you If you add it to your card It says 1235 That's crazy Ugh Ubiquity Generally you guys are like Pretty chill But that's I don't like that Okay you know Okay hold on

1:29:10Linus Sebastian:I genuinely thought The person in the comments Was kidding I don't even remember The person's name Because I just immediately Went to go do it Okay hold on

1:29:16Luke Lafreniere:I can kind of see Where they're coming from Pyro Pinky You know what Counterpoint I'm going to play Devil's Advocate on this one ubiquity wants to look forward to a time when that is actually the msrp and when sanity returns to the market they they're they're they are foreshadowing that they have an intention to actually bring the pricing back down to that that's the good faith interpretation of it is that instead of just raising the prices like they did on bread and then just leaving them there they're like this is temporary that's the that's the the good faith sort of best intentions interpretation do i know that that's actually true no but i i could at least see i could see a positive interpretation of it

1:30:06Linus Sebastian:yeah it could be worse if that's the goal then sure i think they can communicate it better like if the fine text could be this is the original price without the surcharge included instead of the fine text being it's not that fine the smaller text i don't want to call it fine text that's that is not fair the smaller text being like oh this is what the real price is the real price should still be the biggest text the small text could be yeah defining that the price is

1:30:37Luke Lafreniere:different because of memory stuff oh they fixed it i was uh i was going to hold on sort by No, I can't find it. They fixed it. I was going to say, well, it could be worse. It could be the Dell outlet. I found a machine on the Dell outlet yesterday, I think it was, that had a negative$1 ,000 savings. So it was priced$1 ,000 more than the original price. But I cannot find that anywhere.

1:31:14Linus Sebastian:Negative$1 ,000 in savings?

1:31:17Luke Lafreniere:whoa who could resist it i did screenshot it already though so i it will be in the video that i'm that i was doing about shopping on the dell outlet but uh man i wonder if i i actually had a conversation with um our dell rep today and i told him i was working on a video on the outlet i wonder if somebody went on to the outlet and was like oh we should make sure there's nothing stupid on here and I wonder if they found it. I'm really glad I screenshotted it because this is so funny. Oh no, I found one. I found one. Here we go. The Alienware 16X Aurora gaming laptop. Estimated value,$21.78. Today's price,$23.17.

1:31:59Luke Lafreniere:Total savings, negative$139.

1:32:06Luke Lafreniere:The stupidest part is even at this price, it's honestly not that bad of a deal. 24 core processor, 32 gigs RAM. RTX 5070 Ti mobile. Yeah, so the video is basically going to be like, hey, there's some deals on the Dell outlet. You might want to keep an eye on it if you're trying to get your hands on a decent machine at a decent price. Not everything makes sense. Don't buy the one that's a negative$1 ,000 discount, but there's some stuff that looks pretty compelling.

1:32:35Linus Sebastian:All right, you want to pick one? Yeah. Raspberry Pi, locking down RAM capacities in firmware. Raspberry Pi engineer Phil E told users the move is meant to prevent resellers from taking a low-capacity board, desoldering the RAM, replacing it with a substandard part, and reselling the device for a profit. Why specifically low-capacity board?

1:33:00Luke Lafreniere:Anyways, whatever. Yeah, because it's the cheapest way to get a board. Because you wouldn't upgrade a high-capacity board.

1:33:08Linus Sebastian:from taking a low capacity board, desarting the RAM, replacing it with a substandard part.

1:33:13Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, but like higher capacity potentially so that you could sell it as like a... I mean, they didn't say that part. Yeah, that was... You're probably right.

1:33:22Linus Sebastian:That's what you would do. Yeah, okay. Reselling the device for a profit. On top of the memory capacity, the firmware locks also track some other device attributes. So even swapping memory chips of the same capacity may not work and the measure has been in place since late 2024 before RAM prices skyrocketed due to the data center boom. Some in the Pi community say the locks go against the tinkering spirit of the Raspberry Pi community. Kind of wild that we only noticed this two years later, I guess, maybe, I don't know. I think this is missing some context, so maybe that's not the case. With Jeff Geerling suggesting a one-time warranty bit could have been a better approach, basically voiding your warranty if you do some type of upgrade or change like this but not blocking you from doing said upgrade now here's my question

1:34:15why do we go so hard at apple for what is as far as i can tell fundamentally the same behavior

1:34:25Luke Lafreniere:well i think people are then are we going if i have felt like people didn't go quite as hard at Raspberry Pi. Yeah, is that what the company's even called? They got acquired a while back, so I'm trying to remember who actually owns them now. I have no idea. I can't remember. Who owns Raspberry Pi? Your grandma? What a weird thing to know. Publicly traded company, Raspberry Pi Holdings. SBC Supremo? Institutional investors include Arm Holdings and Lansdowne Partners. But the original educational charity still owns a major stake in the commercial entity. so according to ai uh it's its own company still so yeah raspberry pi holdings um i feel like

1:35:06Linus Sebastian:spc supremo is a media nickname used to describe raspberry pi single board computer supremo okay

1:35:14Luke Lafreniere:cool um i feel like i feel like when it was apple we were a lot less open to this kind of rationale for it right like the response was basically f you don't interfere with me changing my screen I don't think anyone has accepted the rationale, to be clear. I feel like I have seen some acceptance of it. Oh. Like, even just the more constructive dialogue around, like, well, hey, what if you voided my warranty instead? Ah, okay.

1:35:47Linus Sebastian:Rather than just, like, open rebellion, how dare you?

1:35:51Luke Lafreniere:You're the worst, you're evil.

1:35:52Linus Sebastian:I think Crystal said it, basically. Pi is tiny. And thus, like... I mean, you didn't know the parent company. I mean, the parent company includes Arm. So like... Comparatively to Apple. It's also very non-normy. They're also a publicly traded company. More upset.

1:36:14Luke Lafreniere:They're literally a publicly traded company that IPO'd at a valuation of$690 million. Like they'd be a real company at this point. I don't know, man.

1:36:27Linus Sebastian:um i think they're not at the same ire level as an apple though yeah yeah i guess that's fair but

1:36:34Luke Lafreniere:on the flip side okay flip side i feel like the potential societal liability of of iphones being able to be scammed in this way is actually way higher so the potential damage that can be done by allowing people to willy-nilly swap ram and storage chips and screens harvest out the authentic parts and put in cheap knockoff parts and sell them is actually way higher. So the stakes are much higher for Apple. I mean, I was trying to figure out, I was like noodling on this because I was reading, this is like years ago at this point, but I was reading about how like in London, like just moped by phone thefts are such a huge thing.

1:37:16Luke Lafreniere:And I was like, you know, why? Because everything's, you know, locked down, it's encrypted accounts, blah, blah, blah, blah, like Android. Sure. But like iPhones, it's find my has been a thing forever. And it was like a doy authentic storage chips, Ram chips. You can, you can take useful parts off of these boards, use them to repair broken phones that you source for next to nothing. And then you can sell them for way more, of course, uh, screens, batteries, you can pull all this stuff out of there. So if it's not paired to the SOC, then it's basically you're snatching spare parts, essentially, which still has a ton of value.

1:37:56Luke Lafreniere:And so like, I don't know, I'm a little torn because maybe it's because Apple kind of warmed me up to it. And now Raspberry Pi doesn't have to be the first one to tell me. Or maybe it's because Raspberry Pi is a smaller company and they've generally been tinker friendly. They have a history there. But I am more accepting of this excuse that they're fighting substandard counterfeit parts and they want to protect the brand and protect the user experience. But, flip side, like, dude, that sucks. These are supposed to be tinker friendly hardware. That's, like, the whole point. Yeah, I'm trying to find, like...

1:38:44Linus Sebastian:yeah i'm not seeing like i don't know maybe you saw other stuff i'm not seeing

1:38:52Linus Sebastian:people in the comments here being okay with it to be honest by and large the community seems

1:39:00Luke Lafreniere:pretty upset about it but even just being willing to engage in any kind of constructive dialogue does feel different than when Apple pulled this kind of stuff.

1:39:09Linus Sebastian:That's probably true. Apparently, we're missing some amount of context from Jeff Geerling's quote, by the way. Some people in chat have qualified this. And after reading some comments around this topic, it makes sense to me. One of his caveats for the warranty bit wouldn't just be that you no longer have a warranty. It's that it would also warn you on boot that your device had been modified. That makes a lot of sense to me. I like that quite a bit.

1:39:38Luke Lafreniere:Would anybody have wanted that on an iPhone? Would we have accepted that? Back when we were having this conversation, when Apple was first locking SOCs.

1:39:50Linus Sebastian:Yeah, was their thing locking SOCs or was their thing making something used to be removable?

1:39:55Luke Lafreniere:No, keying SOCs to screens and to batteries and to various other parts of the hardware. I don't know.

1:40:01Linus Sebastian:I don't remember hearing that argument. It might have been an argument that was around. I just don't remember hearing it. But maybe part of it is just that we've had a lot longer to think about it. Also that, maybe that. I don't know. I don't know. I think you've definitely got some, you know, there is a section of the community that will just get the horns out anytime Apple does anything. So there's, you know, there's something there, but not sure. Yeah.

1:40:23Luke Lafreniere:And this is a really great point from Naitohan. Apple was keying parts that were common failures, like batteries and screens, et cetera. And that's totally valid too. um the whole i guess the part that's that was a little surprising to me about all of this is that it seems like it's become a more nuanced conversation than just seethe right to repair how dare you seethe um we're we're acknowledging now at least that, hold on a second, there actually may have been some merit to...

1:41:03Linus Sebastian:I wonder how often this is nefariously done. Like maybe this is a common thing in the Raspberry Pi community, so people are also like a little frustrated about it. Maybe. Maybe. I have no idea.

1:41:12Luke Lafreniere:I literally don't know that. I mean, the biggest frustration I've seen from the Raspberry Pi community is that Raspberry Pis aren't five bucks anymore.

1:41:19Linus Sebastian:Yeah.

1:41:20Luke Lafreniere:That's the main complaint I've seen too. Yeah. So the cheap SBC is like not, not cheap. I mean, I guess, you know, with the price of food, maybe it's in line with what raspberry pie costs now still. Dude, I was at, I was at, I was at Safeway and you can buy instead of, you know, buying a whole pie, they cut them in half and you buy half a pie. now it was like it was the most in your face shrinkflation that i think i have seen yet because usually they kind of try to hide it like they make it like a a flatter package that's like bigger from the front so it like it doesn't feel like you're buying so much less but there it was on the shelf at a price i might have expected to pay for a whole pie really not that long ago

1:42:08Linus Sebastian:half a pie and i was like oh i don't actually think this is related but um when sammy and i were off shooting that video that i'm not going to go into detail of um there was the way we stopped for lunch we went to this little lunch place that was near where we were filming yeah and i got a soup and sandwich little combo and when it showed up it was it was a half of the sandwich it was a club sandwich i was like what are you doing what are you doing with the other half of the club sandwich. Who's getting that? Is there a cook in the back just nomming on half a club sandwich? What's happening? Would you blame them?

1:42:47Linus Sebastian:There was like three customers in the store. The other people are already served. This is going nowhere. No, I wouldn't blame them. It was actually very good. But it was strange.

1:42:58Luke Lafreniere:Meanwhile, I got very excited yesterday. A &W Canada has$5 teen burgers on right now. Whoa. So I bought two yesterday, ate them. I will probably buy more today It's been so long Since I've paid$5 For a teen burger and when you buy two It's like that is like a large Meal for me for 10 bucks

1:43:19Linus Sebastian:Man when I was when we were doing the reno And our kitchen was of no use Lettuce wrapped Teen burgers were like I had a lot

1:43:29Luke Lafreniere:Of those Dude teen burger$4.99 That may be the best fast food deal That's out there right now In Canada, I feel like that's got to be true. Yeah, it's Canadian dollars. So that's like$3.50 US or something like that. That's wicked. And A &W Canada doesn't suck like A &W US. Yeah, it's a completely different thing. Yeah, it's good food. Completely different. For fast food. For fast food. It's not like the best burgers or whatever. No, no, no. It's like actual meat, you know, with real cheese and like fresh tomato and stuff. Like it's good.

1:44:02Linus Sebastian:Last Whale Land. You know, there's a lot of snacks floating around and stuff. but my dad, my brother, and I zipped off to go get lunch, and we went to A &W, and it was like, oh, nice. Real food. Yeah. This is good.

1:44:16Luke Lafreniere:And fast. And fast.

1:44:18Linus Sebastian:So we could go back to Whaleland. I'm a big A &W. I'm a big A &W Canada guy. I don't think this is in the dock, but I think we have the new dates for the new Whaleland. Oh, do we know? I saw a picture of it.

1:44:31Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. I don't think it's in the dock, but there you go. All right. We'll see you there. November 28th to 29th fall whale and let's go Really good vibes at the last one. Yes, I only dropped by for a little bit because I was really busy that weekend But I just I heard it was just Good vibes no internet outages. So we're every event just yeah

1:44:54Linus Sebastian:the last couple times the the infras been like ready and fine and then some like third-party thing happens and it's like Oh, so this time just no third-party thing happened and it was fine And the layout the layout changed. I think it's pretty sweet how it is I kind of hope we stop changing it because I think it's pretty dialed in right now We'll see how that goes. I

1:45:16Luke Lafreniere:Mean with that said if the same people what brought you better layout if they come up with a better try to make it better Sure, I'll accept it. I mean yeah Where it's meant to be an evolving event. It's not meant to be static. Yeah, you know it happens like four times a year so the idea is not necessarily that people come to every single one although there are some people who do come to every single one um yeah there's some people that are like familiar faces oh yeah yeah where it's just like whale lands just like the quarterly hangout with with the ladies and gents and just like come hang out and honestly it's been that's that part's been really cool so having that like that kind of like that anchor crowd but also the like yeah i'll come to you a one-a-year crowd.

1:45:59Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. It's a really good mix. It's been really cool.

1:46:02Linus Sebastian:Yeah. Yeah, and like if you and your buddies are like we are like winter whale land attendees or whatever, that's cool. That's sweet.

1:46:12Luke Lafreniere:All right. This is going to sound crazy, but one of the things that I thought was kind of coolest from this week came from Meta. Oh, no.

1:46:25Linus Sebastian:Oh, I know where you're going. Okay, sure. All right, I accept it. I figured it out. It's fine.

1:46:30Luke Lafreniere:Meta this week announced a bunch of like perv glasses and like AI always listening to you stuff. And then also like, this is pretty cool, Petal. A first of its kind trans-oceanic subsea cable. I did not realize how invested meta was in like the actual physical infrastructure of the internet. It makes sense. They got to move all that perv data somehow. Now that I think about it, totally makes sense. Yep. But this is like very cool tech that like, look, say what you say about meta. Think what you think about meta. if meta reached out and was like linus we're going to give you some kind of access to like look at pedal or learn more about pedal boots on the ground with pedal we'll sponsor it we'll do that i'd be like yes zuck that would the cable will run roughly 7 000 kilometers between the eastern united states and france's atlantic coast it will enter service in 2029 and will carry this is not a typo one petabit per second wicked 1000 terabits which is apparently double what meta's current best transatlantic cable and jana does the trick here is two core fiber from sumitomo electric so instead of adding more fiber strands which makes the cable thicker and heavier each hair width strand has two separate light paths inside it so pedals 24 fiber pairs behave like 48 according to meta's engineering blog the signals in each core travel in opposite directions which keeps interference between them so low that they describe it as nearly immeasurable so important to note this is not the same thing as running like multi-modes this is like separate light paths along with some kind of like i guess bi-directional tomfoolery that at those switching speeds i just i i i struggle to even begin to wrap my brain around um nec is building the system and orange is apparently handling the french landing our discussion question here is meta says that 99 of intercontinental traffic runs through cables like this um and i think they said something along the lines of like this one cable was enough to handle like 75 of communications between those two continents or something like that um don't quote me on those numbers because that was that's not in my notes i was just like reading about this separately because i was like this this is really cool uh there's some some obscene amount of like communication between these two continents could be handled on this like one cable that's going into service in a couple of years.

1:49:25Luke Lafreniere:However, our discussion question, does it bother you at all that the biggest pipes across the Atlantic are increasingly owned by companies like Meta and Google rather than by governments, which is effectively publicly funded, or by telecoms who are supposed to be the neutral highway on which everything else runs, although in practice I don't know if it's really worked out that way. I don't think I trust the telecoms any more than I trust

1:50:00Linus Sebastian:yeah i don't know that's a tough one i just don't trust any of them it's all zero if you know at a certain point it's just already at zero what else is gonna happen

1:50:19Luke Lafreniere:can you not tempt the gods like that

1:50:24Linus Sebastian:they hate us enough clearly yeah like do we do we allow the trust bar do we allow the number line that is the trust bar to go into negatives or not i think it's just easier to think they can

1:50:36Luke Lafreniere:go negative i think if you i think if you have a positive belief that they will f**k you then that would be negative trust

1:50:45Linus Sebastian:or is that or is that high trust integer overflows it's like lawful evil no you know you are confident in the fact no the devil you know does not make the trust

1:50:59Luke Lafreniere:positive threat lockers gonna have to change their annual summit it's gonna have to be negative trust world

1:51:11Linus Sebastian:I completely that makes so much sense okay if there's an evil guy named Stab Man and Stab Man walks up to you holding a knife you can have a very high amount of trust that Stab Man is going to stab you

1:51:28Luke Lafreniere:I would call that negative trust 100 % he's doing what he says he's going to do He's high trust in a negative direction. So I trust him to be untrustworthy? Well, it's an integer overflow, and it goes below zero and then wraps around to be extremely high trust. It's like the word great. So you've got Alexander the Great, and then you've got a great spaghetti. And they both mean noteworthy. I mean certain leaders of countries are often defined as great leaders.

1:52:03Linus Sebastian:That's what I meant by Alexander the Great. I mean, he decimated his own men.

1:52:06Luke Lafreniere:Okay. He's not exactly a nice guy. Yeah. He was actually the example that I used, like talking to my kids about the difference between goodness and greatness. Sure. Okay. It's like, yeah. So there was like a lot of like raping and pillaging and murdering in all of that greatness. That's not good. You know, trying to have that conversation with them. Stab man. Does what it says on the tin. LXFN sent a Google review for your stab man Got what I didn't pay for

1:52:41Linus Sebastian:Yeah so anywho But yeah so Trust would be that they would do The thing that you think they're going to do Which is monitor everything you send Over this pipe and steal it Or that they tell you they would do basically right So stab man he named himself stab man Right he stabs people

1:52:57Luke Lafreniere:And you accept that while he does stab people He does, in fact, clear the line and make your life a little bit easier as long as you're not the one who gets stabbed. His motto is be evil. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:53:10Linus Sebastian:So he's an evil guy that stabs people. And I trust him to be an evil guy that stabs people. It's not that it's good. I don't want Stabman to exist. Prompt friendly service. I would prefer that I didn't wear Stabman glasses that tell Stabman potentially where his target is all the time. yeah you wouldn't you wouldn't give stab man your live location on snapchat would you but if you're

1:53:32Luke Lafreniere:wearing the glasses it gives other people's but at least stab man says that if you give me your location i will come and stab you aj in chat asks how do you even steal a petabyte per second uh petabit per second of data hold on i've got ideas okay so have you ever heard of um like storing data in the moving data of the internet yes okay hear me out aj they just build more trans-oceanic cables and then all data is in flight at all times being stored in the movement of the data problem solved you're welcome

1:54:12Linus Sebastian:ping fs baby

1:54:17Linus Sebastian:Thanks AJ There's your new float plane product

1:54:20Luke Lafreniere:Oh dude Speaking of float plane projects I had a meeting with AJ today Yeah I guess it's time to tell you guys Lisp is a go We have the best internet

1:54:35Linus Sebastian:The logo for Lisp Should be you just grinning really widely With your braces on

1:54:42Luke Lafreniere:Yeah so So we've got a couple videos planned. One of them is going to be we're working with Ubiquity to get some new gear for our racks here on-prem. And that is for two reasons. One of it is to upgrade it. So we're going to be Ubiquity through and through now, which I guess is convenient from a management standpoint. And then reason number two is that, and this was a cost reduction measure, if I recall correctly, right? the switches that we're stealing from here for the colo rack um we need those for the colo rack because they're more more suitable for that purpose um everything about this project is a cost reduction measure i just mean we what there was a more baller version of the equipment that we were going to acquire if i recall oh yeah but that's true for everything nice the min maxing aj has done here is absurd i'm excited so there's going to be two videos there's going to be one where we put the new ubiquity gear into the rack here.

1:55:43Luke Lafreniere:And then there's going to be another video. We've got permission, we think, from the colo to go shoot inside our cage. So we're going to show you guys the servers. Is it locked? I'm pretty sure that's... He seemed mostly sure today. Oh. So, but then, I don't know. AJ, don't take this the wrong way. Sometimes AJ can be sure and sound unsure. I mean, I get it.

1:56:05Linus Sebastian:I think there are restrictions to how we do it and stuff. Oh, that's fine.

1:56:08Luke Lafreniere:can't have anyone else's rack and blah blah blah that's fine he says i'm pretty sure okay so we can both be right yeah um so anyway the second video is going to be shooting at the colo showing we'll also be building up one of the servers together because we don't have quite all of them done so we'll be building one together we'll be putting it in uh we'll be showing the networking equipment that we ripped out of our rack here we'll be putting that in and then we'll be talking through some of the like provisioning stuff that's going to have to happen because apparently like our our dedicated routing from here to the colo won't be done until like sometime in the new year or something like that um i'm a little fuzzy on the details a lot of long queues for things unfortunately i mean there's a lot of like trying to move data sentry stuff that's trying to move really fast right now so i get it i get it uh by the way before i move on from this apparently

1:57:01Linus Sebastian:ping fs is not uh just a joke that aj came up with no that's that's what it's called yeah it's a real thing yeah i know i didn't actually know i knew i'd heard about the concept i didn't know someone

1:57:10Luke Lafreniere:like you can't store a lot no but you could like store a song or like like small video files even

1:57:18Linus Sebastian:in the movement i also knew that people had in flight data but i didn't know this was like a github project yeah like i didn't realize it was that yeah that's uh right that was surprising me

1:57:29Luke Lafreniere:that's wild you must have just forgotten because nine years ago or whatever 12 i think we talked about this on WAN show probably and it was a thing and they were storing real data in it I think

1:57:38Linus Sebastian:well no I knew it was a thing I didn't realize it was like this publicly available oh no you did

1:57:44Luke Lafreniere:yeah okay yeah at some point you knew sure look I I don't remember what we talked about on WAN last week I had a conversation with Pancraz today where I was like yeah um because I I had given a really brief explanation of the type of like data mirroring that some oh man we we did a video on the coolest server this week it's like old like 2002 but literally in the intro it's running cinebench and i rip memory out of it and then i put it back in ram goes in ram goes out ram goes in ram goes out ram goes in ram goes out because it's got memory mirroring and it supports hot swap memory including in place upgrades it's so cool that's pretty wild anyway i was giving a brief explanation of like something to do with like parody data or something like that and i was like hey pancratz did that sound that sound about right and he's like oh yeah yeah totally and i'm like yeah well just sometimes i don't have 100 confidence because realistically we cover such a breadth of stuff we've done so many different videos we've got so many different projects going I've probably forgotten more about tech than most people would ever even care to know.

1:58:56Luke Lafreniere:Yeah. And so I end up in kind of an awkward position where I like, I know just enough to be dangerous about...

1:59:04Linus Sebastian:Also sometimes conflating two different technologies. Dangerous amount of things. That are like sort of similar. I know that I have... I do my best. I have, and this has happened not a ton of times, but more than once. Yeah. Where I've been trying to figure something out and I've landed on like an ancient tech wiki video. And then it turns out that I'm the one hosting it. Yeah. And I don't remember any of this literally at all. But hey, this is a nice video. Good. Yeah, sure. I guess I'll listen to myself explain this to me. Yeah. Like, cool.

1:59:34Luke Lafreniere:Nice. Dude, I've seen compilations that people have put together of like top LTT moments or whatever that I'll recognize like maybe half of them. Yeah. Like, oh, that's really funny. Oh, I'm in that shot. I was there.

1:59:50Linus Sebastian:Yeah. Yeah. Oh, to have a better memory. Anyways, let's talk about the next thing I'm going to forget about. Want to do the Discord age verification? Sure. Discord's age verification era is upon us. On September 23rd, Discord rolled out its long-delayed age verification system. The launch was originally planned for March, but got delayed after backlash, not canceled, unfortunately, but delayed over the original methods, which heavily relied on facial scans and ID uploads. Discord says its new method works such that over 90 % of users will never be asked to verify because it uses an automated age estimation method that places every account into one of three groups, adult, teen, or unconfirmed.

2:00:40Linus Sebastian:how the estimation model works is it's a machine learning model that looks at account signals oh good old the account is okay i mean that's a pretty obvious one that one's fine the fact that

2:00:49Luke Lafreniere:steam still asks me insane if i'm allowed to view this i think there's a setting i think you can

2:00:54Linus Sebastian:actually pretty sure my account is over 18 years old let me do what the heck i want anyway um which is terrifying but it is its own thing uh or unconfirmed is the last category i don't remember if I said that or not. How the estimation works. Right. How old the account is. Which communities, servers, and games it's connected to. So if you like Roblox, prepare to get cooked. General activity levels, like how many channels the user is active in. Really?

2:01:26Linus Sebastian:So if you're more active, you're what, younger? Maybe. Maybe less employed.

2:01:34Linus Sebastian:That one's an interesting one. This all happens server-side, not on device. Discord says it is not looking at messages, calls, or other content. Teen and unconfirmed accounts keep messaging calls in regular servers, but lose access to age-restricted servers, channels, and bot commands. There are additional restrictions like not safe for work images get blurred and messages from non friends go into a separate request inbox Frankly that should probably just be everyone that sounds like that's just how that should work sounds glorious I think you can also pretty sure my account is set that way already Adults placed in the wrong group and new accounts which start unconfirmed can verify manually through discords Vendored KID which offers a number of tests which vary in the level of documentation required.

2:02:23Linus Sebastian:Note that KID is kind of like an orchestrator here sending verifications to other third-party vendors based on the user's preference for verification method.

2:02:33Luke Lafreniere:They go from, I'll let you get to it, but they go from kind of scary to, oh my god, really?

2:02:40Linus Sebastian:The verification method options are as follows in escalating order based on the level of documentation required. On-device, video selfie. This is the first stage. It's facial age estimation and is administered through KID's subprocessor privately. It runs entirely on your device. Okay. So the video never leaves your phone and produces only an age vector that places you in one of three buckets mentioned above. Okay. Methods requiring calls to external servers include payment stuff, so you could put in a credit card. Stripe confirms the card is owned by an adult and may place a temporary charge under 50 cents to prove the card is real, which then gets refunded within 14 business days.

2:03:18Linus Sebastian:The Apple App Store or Google Play Store, which shares only the age range already on your account, not your birth date. That one seems relatively, I wouldn't hate it too much. Both of those seem not necessarily too bad. Okay, here we go. I don't love the credit card one. More okay with App Store, personally. Then there's ID stuff. Google Wallet. It would use a passport-based ID pass in your digital wallet, currently limited to passports from Brazil, Singapore, Taiwan, the UK, and the US.

2:03:50Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, I ain't sending my passport to anyone who doesn't super-duper need it. If you're not a customs and border control agent, I don't think you need my passport, quite frankly.

2:04:00Linus Sebastian:An ID scan of a government-issued ID plus a selfie goes to Veritad, another third-party subprocessor of KID. or lastly age key a reusable age credential stored as a pass key on your device usable across other

2:04:15Luke Lafreniere:services so that seems like the ultimate this would be a really great solution if i could actually trust anybody to implement it properly and for it to not turn into just like a giant potential gold mine that will be targeted at some point with that said i mean everything's a gold mine that's going to be targeted at some point i don't think it's in the doc this week but did you see the uh hacker group got they like um name address contact information spouses of like every fbi agent supposedly

2:04:51Luke Lafreniere:whoops whoa yeah

2:04:57Linus Sebastian:anyways uh discord says that for all these options it it only ever receives a digital age signal that is used to put you into one of the teen buckets okay to be clear maybe discord only gets that but clearly kid is passing whatever this is going through like a billion other people so i don't think that's the important part but whatever uh also according to their documentation every vendor is required to delete is required to delete your data immediately after the check is complete what was his name again stabby yeah your buddy stab man or whatever okay uh dan internal

2:05:35Luke Lafreniere:bleeding or your money back can you please fire over a request to ashley i think we need a new mascot for the wan show stab man i would like i would like to see what she comes up with for

2:05:47Linus Sebastian:stab man so it's it's you know that whole like why are they why are they confessing and it's like oh they're not confessing they're they're bragging it's like is this a stab man moment they just are they just telling us how they're gonna be evil uh i i love it i need a snack i'll

2:06:05Luke Lafreniere:be right back okay a major stab man he sent me uh sent me a message

2:06:15Linus Sebastian:this was extremely expected someone call hospital man uh no he's too expensive Oh, America.

2:06:26Luke Lafreniere:He sends you an email on the date and time that he's going to show up, and then he's on time. He's very prompt. Very reliable. How come in current year we're talking about an evil corporation that does the bare minimum of doing what they say is going to happen and being on time, and he stabs you?

2:06:47Linus Sebastian:Is this really what reality has become? It seems to be. Yeah. A major criticism is that the number of third-party platforms kind of maximizes the threat surface for a leak or data breach. It maximizes the potential of stabbing. But yeah, that is a huge problem. It could be passing through tons of different external platforms. That sucks. Basically, one of the truths of modern life is if it's on an online platform, it will be hacked at some point. So I don't like this. Also required to delete data. What an ice-cold take, Luke. frosty frost man uh the concern is reasonable given that there are it was a similarly shaped breach in 2025 where discord's vendor 5ca exposed 70 000 government ids and selfies submitted for manual age appeals yup uh i i don't know what else to add to that another point of concern for some individuals is that discord's age estimation model is using data on people's behavior to infer their age though this is honestly a super common practice in data analytics most platforms that collect data on people use behavior to infer demographic and psychographic information on their users and in this case discord is using it to keep the majority of its users from dealing with more invasive age checks but they're doing it at all well but they were doing it for sure

2:08:16Luke Lafreniere:Stab Man's gonna stab That is true Modern He do be stabbing I mean the fact that Discord was so free For so long Means we were the product We've always been the product Yeah yeah yeah Stab me daddy

2:08:36Luke Lafreniere:I wasn't sure what you meant That'll be 15 bucks a month Oh you know what it meant

2:08:44Linus Sebastian:That's the wrong pose For you, maybe

2:08:51Linus Sebastian:Lordy Are you like super into armpits or something?

2:08:54Luke Lafreniere:Now's a really good time for us to talk about our sponsor At Stabman Corsair Actually, you know what? I'm gonna talk about float plane first Okay Hey Okay Time to read the float plane notes We not only have the extras from Lisa's AMD upgrade, but we also got episode three of LMG Learns, which is a life skills series that we're running where people who have never done a basic life skill thing learn a basic life skill from someone else here at the company. So Sammy this time learned how to chair his car oil. I assume he means change from Ariana from HR. We also have extras out already for tomorrow's video, the all razor setup.

2:09:49Luke Lafreniere:But if a tall bearded French man is more your type, you can check out his full video game essay video that we released on LMG clips today. Is Luke French? I doesn't know. He has a French name.

2:10:09Linus Sebastian:I guess I could actually, I mean, partially, yeah. Um, yeah, so, uh, okay, cool.

2:10:19Luke Lafreniere:Finally, let's release Monday's LTT video. Whoops. Okay, I'm going to do that. Check out all of our exclusive content at lmg.gg slash fpwan. Oh, this is a banger.

2:10:36Luke Lafreniere:oh yeah nice i've been waiting for this fall this is the picture that i took in the middle of the night when yvonne and i were out for one of our classic midnight walks we showed that on land show we did show that on when show and now if you were on float plane you can watch this video right now fun fact by the way bokeh's bokeh's swan song oh yeah yeah Yep. And he actually came back. The cat came back the very next day, literally the day after his last day, to help me with the finale of the video, which is pretty fun. So that was really cool at Whale Land.

2:11:19Linus Sebastian:Man, I was skimming the comments really quick because I didn't know we released this video. I think it's a cool idea that we do this on LMG Clips. We release full-plane videos every once in a while. But I do think this video is... old like yeah quite old and it the context has changed a lot since then uh and i think sometimes it it maybe maybe we need to have like cold intros where we explain that or something i'm not sure uh but i've had this problem before where there was like a q a and it was released on here but it's a q a from like not even this cycle it's a q a from like a long time ago um yeah you can talk to sammy about that whatever we'll figure it out but i was skimming through the comments and where was it?

2:12:02Linus Sebastian:Yeah, I saw this one. I'm just confused. Based on the title, I expected a game engine tutorial, but I'm surprisingly three months pregnant instead. And I don't know how to interpret that. I think it's a compliment. Maybe.

2:12:15Luke Lafreniere:I don't know. Pregnant with what, though? Because if it's a future stab man, then hopefully your innards are the chain mail. Are feeling okay? Just kicks a lot. Pregnant with knives!

2:12:29Linus Sebastian:Is that a kick? No, he's it's it's a stabbing motion that he's doing on the inside Um, what was I supposed to be doing right now?

2:12:38Luke Lafreniere:Oh, no, um, no key pointed out Something in the dock that I apparently missed what I apparently missed something in the CW announcements Oh Oh, oh crap we did a deep dive into our newest uh backpack the british milleran version as well as the tech sack that uses the same fabric so we kind of went down the rabbit hole on the british milleran waxed cotton fabric from its origins making sailcloth in the 1880s to why we decided it would be a pretty darn good material for our bags and if you want more stuff like this sign up for the ltt store newsletter we'll be sharing more behind the scenes stuff from creator warehouse with like fun facts and deep dives into the products and people behind them.

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2:17:31Luke Lafreniere:If you haven't watched it yet, this one was a ton of fun. Audience freaking loved it. I had a blast that day. I don't want to give away too much, but we did work on a fun little art project. I don't know if you can see this loop. Yeah, but you gotta, you gotta, it's not, yeah, you're wearing a thing. So that thing I'm wearing is artificial skin. it's for practicing as a tattoo artist that's cool very cool uh we did a fun little art project in the video that is worth the price of admission on its own uh speaking of giving away too much amd wants to give you your very own tech upgrade with an amd ryzen 7 9800 x 3d cpu plus a gigabyte x870 eorus elite mobo combo you can enter to win at the link down below or the link in the video from this week and amd wants to know with modern gaming pcs are we undervaluing the motherboard as an experience upgrade when you pair an x3d style cpu with a platform like x870e what actually matters to gamers raw fps gains or everything just works and connects to itself and is a great platform for long term really are you a premium motherboard guy i never used to be and now i am i uh am i got burned before because i i am not really like a quote-unquote gamer my pc is a tool and i want it to be rock solid so i used to buy touching even what yeah i mean i sit next to it sometimes sometimes we get a little closer but you know what i mean uh but Yeah, I always buy near top end if it has the features that I need.

2:19:15Luke Lafreniere:I'm still using PCI cards. I still use a lot of outputs.

2:19:20Linus Sebastian:I like going...

2:19:23Luke Lafreniere:I didn't even know.

2:19:24Linus Sebastian:Yeah, yeah. I like going on the high end of mid-range.

2:19:30Luke Lafreniere:Depends if the high end ones are actually good good. Sometimes they're just not worth it.

2:19:36Linus Sebastian:We've ran into this problem a number of times before, but when you go to like truly really high-end stuff not that many people have it it's like a

2:19:42Luke Lafreniere:run of 500 units also at the top end these days it used to be you bought the top of the line motherboard it was just like the top of the line one now the top of the line ones are like art boards yep you'll and they're pointless because it's expensive and for some reason it has a screen

2:20:00Linus Sebastian:on it and like whatever i don't want it i just want it to be good please what do you pour yeah many sorry sorry sorry many screens on it uh but yeah it's it's i feel like you end up putting yourself in a in a weird spot uh also i want to clarify something because i was skimming through the comments on here there are a ton of comments that are confused about the video because uh that was released on lmg clips because they're like well this isn't what the game is like anymore uh i've i've already messaged sammy maybe we'll try to do new intros or something like this for some of this content uh but it is it is clearly very confusing for people because the only clarification is a pinned comment i think a lot of people are not reading that it's amazing how

2:20:44Luke Lafreniere:many people manage to scroll by a pinned comment to post a comment about the comment i i will never understand that that's uh i understand the out of comment field is above it it shouldn't be or this is somewhere i've actually brought this up to youtube before this is somewhere that AI moderation could be very valuable. Somebody goes to post a comment. It goes, hey, that's actually addressed by the pinned comment or by a creator response. Do you want to just jump into that thread? There should maybe be an option

2:21:15Linus Sebastian:because I think I can understand. I can fully understand someone being confused about this. There is nothing in the title that clarifies that this is like a more than, I think it's more than a year old video or actually a year old video, somewhere around there. anything like that so there's there's a lot of confusion in the comments

2:21:32Luke Lafreniere:says man buddy really let pal down here he did so i guess that's canon now your pal

2:21:40Linus Sebastian:sure way to go buddy yeah uh but i mean i think i like the idea that we do this i just i think we need to communicate better with uh with the audience agreed wow i've i've only ever seen those on airplanes what are they you you have i know you have airplane food i know

2:22:00Luke Lafreniere:i saw i saw them in the snacky thing i i love these every time i'm on an airport on an airplane and i get twigs craft pretzels i'm like wow these are really good oh wow and they're canadian i should get some and then i just never remember because i always exit an airplane in a state of like dazed confusedness um and i've even at at times kept the packaging like the garbage packaging in my pocket with so that when i find it i'll be like oh yeah that i should buy some and then i just am like oh garbage in my pocket and i throw it away like i've never managed to actually do it um are those like the butterflavored ones buttery herb and garlic from twigs no way yeah they're over there all right i know what i'm having for dinner okay that's not what that's for he actually left

2:22:50Linus Sebastian:he actually like moved with some haste there he's uh he's boogieing okay let's talk about something else oh I don't know how to feel about this oh okay alright this is a I don't know if you told me that this happened in 2006 I would have been pissed off and mad at you and thought you were making stuff up you were untrustworthy you're not like stab man uh but activision is taking over halo as part of a massive xbox shake up oh that okay and this is just weird microsoft is moving forward with a massive restructuring of its xbox division following earlier layoffs that we've already talked about that hit 1600 xbox employees and major studio changes.

2:23:40Linus Sebastian:Most recently, another 260, oh, I didn't know this part, another 268 Xbox employees were laid off with several notable studios and their IP moving under the Activision umbrella. It's not just Xbox. Sorry, it's not just Halo. Xbox's chief content officer, Matt Booty, outlined the changes in a memo. Activision will be developing the next Halo title with a team that is separate from ongoing development and plans for call of duty a small team at halo studios will stay on to support the games already out and activision is expanding its position taking in world's edge the studio behind age of empires and rare the studio behind sea of thieves those ones make way less sense to me cool cool but okay uh days after the initial announcement nearly half of the employees at world's edge were laid off oh what one developer has already been caught up in the xbox layoffs last may found a new role at world's edge and was recently promoted to senior software developer he ended up being laid off seven days after the promotion.

2:24:53Linus Sebastian:He also wrote on LinkedIn that as part of the restructuring, their next project was cancelled. Yeah, Activision's making Halo.

2:25:06I don't know

2:25:06Linus Sebastian:how to feel about it, because Call of the Covenant. Since 343 started to exist, it's just all sucked. So... Somehow Activision will change that. It's just going to suck more? The same amount? Who would you put in charge of Halo? I have no idea. Scrape Bungie back?

2:25:35Luke Lafreniere:I mean, Croteam. I don't think that's going to happen. It's been kind of wild to watch. Like, we talked, I think it was last week, we were talking about how Blizzard, like, came out and was like, hey, look at all the cool stuff we're working on. Definitely don't lay us off. Please don't lay us off, yeah. Honestly, Bungie seems like they're doing exactly the same thing with Destiny 2. They are. They're just like, hey, you know that thing you've been asking us to do for years and years and years and years? We're pulling all the content out of the vault. You can play it all. Oh, but it's going to take a lot of work.

2:26:02Luke Lafreniere:It's not the kind of thing that we could just flip a switch. It's going to take a lot of work to bring the content. Please come play the game so that we can all keep our jobs. Please, please, please.

2:26:10Linus Sebastian:And people seem happy about that. And people seem happy about the Blizzard stuff.

2:26:14Luke Lafreniere:Is that one silver lining in all of this? what how did it take how did how did we have to get to this point for management to wake up and go hey we should probably do the things gamers want us to do i was talking i've never played

2:26:30Linus Sebastian:oh that's not true i have effectively never played any form of destiny i was talking to somebody who has they're not like the biggest destiny fan that i know of but they have played it um and I should talk to DMS.

2:26:47Luke Lafreniere:Oh, man. I know DMS. Okay, I'm highlighting this comment for later, but carry on.

2:26:54Linus Sebastian:But they seem pretty happy about that. Most of the Blizzard fans that I know of, of whatever game under the umbrella they're a fan of, including some of the more niche ones, are quite happy about what happened at BlizzCon. So, I don't know. It seems to kind of be working, maybe?

2:27:15Luke Lafreniere:Lucky Drive 1984. I can tell you the answer to this, but I wish it was a possibility. It says, how is it not id handling Halo? That would have been the coolest thing. That would have been the coolest thing. Too bad that id got doomed.

2:27:27Linus Sebastian:They're like gone. Yeah. That was pretty good. Yeah. That would be my favorite one, but like one of the problems is if you're asking like who should take it over. That would have been such a good pick. Yeah, it would be amazing. It's 100%. I don't know why they didn't do it but the reason why I can't have said that in the first place is because the question was framed as like who would take it now and a lot of them are laid off, they're gone so like they can't really so that option's gone I don't know if like I mean I really liked 007 First Light but it's made from the people who make Hitman, I don't remember their name right now but it's a very different game than Halo, I don't know if that's the right team for it.

2:28:13Linus Sebastian:I was very happy with First Light, but I think they should just keep doing the thing that they've been doing. They're good at it. But, yeah, that's not Halo so much.

2:28:27Linus Sebastian:And I'm worried they're going to take the wrong things from the Call of Duty franchise and apply it to Halo.

2:28:34Luke Lafreniere:Dave Hirschman says, Activision is in the business of making money printers. That's why they got picked. If Halo's a money printer, sure. that's not the problem but if it's designed to print money it's like it's it's hard to hit the right mark when you're aiming at the wrong target you know what i'm saying

2:28:54Linus Sebastian:yeah but i do think that call of duty has been handled a lot better than halo was call of duty's had its ups and downs it has but it hasn't been only downs i liked infinite not the campaign All the new campaigns have been pretty alright.

2:29:21Luke Lafreniere:Alright. Kanton CE jumps in. I also like Infinite. Nice.

2:29:27Linus Sebastian:Yeah, you and the seven other people. I know. Infinite was released terribly, man. Infinite could have been good, I think. Yeah, I know. I think it had the potential. Honestly, they should have just never released the single player. It was so bad.

2:29:41Luke Lafreniere:Some of the early decisions around map rotations and stuff were just so dumb. Insane.

2:29:46Linus Sebastian:Let me play the map I want to play. The fact that Forge wasn't out at launch. There was a bunch of things where if they really just did the multiplayer, because the single player was so trash, it makes me really sad because for me, Halo was largely a game that I liked for single player and co-op, but the single player and co-op was so bad.

2:30:06Luke Lafreniere:Dr. Gizmo says, I didn't know Linus actually played COD. Yeah, it's because I mostly didn't. The only one I ever played was... I'm assuming 2 or Modern Warfare 4. What about Bloops? Were you ever Bloops-er? So I played COG 2 at a LAN one time. Okay, got it. And then Modern Warfare 4 was the one I played. Because I think I got a free copy with a GPU or something when I was working in NCIX.

2:30:34Linus Sebastian:I love that I nailed both of them. I have a thing to update then. What?

2:30:43Linus Sebastian:I think I know what he's doing. Yeah, of course you do.

2:30:48Luke Lafreniere:Or, no, Modern War... Did I say 4? No, it would be Modern Warfare 2. When did that one come out? No, wait, what? 2 is pretty good. Hold on.

2:30:55Linus Sebastian:I'm assuming you mean Call of Duty 4 Modern Warfare and Call of Duty 2.

2:31:02Luke Lafreniere:I didn't change it back. Man, their naming scheme is so complicated. Hold on. I'm going to have to just look for...

2:31:11Linus Sebastian:Okay, hold on. The reason why I said COD 2 is because COD 2 was a big thing on Steam and they had a bunch of crazy sales and it was very popular online. Okay. I played this one.

2:31:23Luke Lafreniere:I know the box art. With the 2? Oh, yeah. With the 2. That one was great. Yeah. I played this and then I played COD 2. Those ones. And even then, not much. I just know the box art, dude. and cod 2 the only reason we played it at that lan was because we also had like a free cod 2 disc thing at some point and it was such an old game and no one cared that we had like hundreds of discs left over um what what year was it that you played modern warfare 2 wait no this is too late that's why there's like no way no it's gotta be it's gotta be this one then maybe we benchmarked maybe we benchmarked this one maybe that must be it because this is benchmark era yeah i no i didn't play any of them enough to actually internalize the call of duty naming scheme because that that looked that looked pretty right too yeah so this one i probably benchmarked the crap out of pretty sure yeah that makes sense and then yeah cod 2 i just had like a dozen discs because no one cared about them and i was like all right that was like one of the most ubiquitous

2:32:29Linus Sebastian:shooter games for some reason just everybody owned cod 2 i don't know how that happened

2:32:34Luke Lafreniere:which a lot of the time was what determined what you played yeah because like there wasn't free to play yet so you just kind of would go lowest common denominator of as far back as you have to go until everyone owns it because it was cheap enough that it was on sale or whatever for you know eight bucks um and so cod 2 was kind of a thing for a while it just like yeah this this

2:32:55Linus Sebastian:box art was just like nice i don't know that thing was just everywhere nice it was crazy

2:33:02Luke Lafreniere:pod 2 man it's amazing how bad games from that era look when you it looks so cinematic and realistic to us back then I swear yeah

2:33:20yeah

2:33:22Linus Sebastian:date of the art sure now we're getting into two modern stuff both of these are modern they have like red dots Yep. There you go. That's more like it. I literally remember specifically that mission. That game was really fun, man. The single player was great. I've gone back and played some old shooter single players, and they're often still really fun. Play Far Cry. Yeah, it's probably still great.

2:33:50Luke Lafreniere:Far Cry 1 is an absolute blast, and it's hard. Like, really hard.

2:33:55Linus Sebastian:I think I saw you stream it one time, and it was tough as heck.

2:33:58Luke Lafreniere:So the reason is that the enemy AI tick rate is tied to CPU performance.

2:34:03Linus Sebastian:Oh, no.

2:34:04Luke Lafreniere:So I played it on a modern system and I was like, man, I don't remember this game being so hard. Like underclock. And then what I eventually figured it out because I was doing a driving mission that I always remembered being like basically a sightseeing jungle cruise. You just kind of go through. and I could not beat it. Like, I'd do the same checkpoint over and over and over again and I'd execute it like perfectly. Like, boom, headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot and I'm dead. And I'm like, what is going on? And so I finally looked it up. I was like, is this game way harder than I remember?

2:34:44Luke Lafreniere:And I found like a thread where someone was discussing that, yeah, it's all about the tick rate. So what's happening is you're cruising through so fast and the enemies are clocking you so fast that they're they're just they're just going to take you out yeah um but i refused to turn the difficulty down i was like no i'm gonna beat it i undervolted my cpu to beat far cry i was noticeably better at fps games for like a while after i finished that campaign because i had done so much practice just having to take out enemies before they got me it was like playing against like ultra hard bots pretty much um except that they were never the the way that the levels were design was never supposed to be such that they were that hard one of my secret favorite games

2:35:29Linus Sebastian:which is apparently five dollars on steam right now um i bought this when i lived in uh victoria and i had a bunch of roommates and i played it with the on speakers with the volume up because everyone was just laughing listening to it um it's rated horribly metacritic gave it a 28 percent IMDB gave it a 3.7 out of 10 Steam it's 6 out of 10 it's like 5 bucks right now the game is horrible featuring first person shooter featuring Richard Demo Dick Marcinko sure I don't know I don't remember who the voice actor is but it's just insane they just say wild wild things the whole time and it's just hilarious like yeah it's published by Bethesda that's probably why you bought it I wonder that might be how I found it but yeah the narrator of the guy that you're playing is just insane even just reading this play as a real life legend play as Richard Demo Dick Marcinko a real life American badass defiant crude and sometimes ruthless behavior has earned him both glory and infamy in his in the history books this reads like a

2:36:53Luke Lafreniere:I slop honestly this is the pre-ai slop It's just Now you take on his explosive nature as you engage in black ops and go against the rules of conventional warfare to get the job done Yeah, it's brutal kills. I wonder what some just terrible the plot so much as there is one follows real life war crime enthusiast and catastrophic alcoholic Richard Marcinko on a make believe mission

2:37:32Linus Sebastian:two to three hours long oh my goodness alright it's uh yeah it's um I don't remember all the individual lines I think there's some stuff said

2:37:45Luke Lafreniere:It's amazing you didn't end up as a manosphere Influencer These are your early influences Oh I just thought it was hilarious

2:37:54Linus Sebastian:But like I I think some of the lines that are said are like Genuinely like extremely offensive But we yeah we had It on speakers while I was playing Just because like every once in a while a line would just Come out and it was just like what It's nuts and like the one he's basically slinging one-liners the entire game I remember that too just like badass like Arnold style just like it's it's it's crazy it's a heck of a game or hear me out if you haven't played it go play fear yeah there you go there's a there's a there's

2:38:33Luke Lafreniere:a good old game that you can play that's actually good or you could play this maybe play some duke nukem forever wash it down with that like the opening scene of duke nukem forever is enough

2:38:46Linus Sebastian:that i just like could not play it i think this is the first time i have fully played through a game because it was terrible does that make sense well yeah yeah so this is your the room yes

2:38:56Luke Lafreniere:yeah this is my the room of video games you know what that's enough for me to play it i'm i'm adding it to the list i'm adding it to the list i'm gonna play it it's horrible

2:39:06Linus Sebastian:I haven't touched it in... Rogue Warrior. Alright. I haven't touched it since before I met you.

2:39:13Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, you can't keep hedging.

2:39:14Linus Sebastian:You can't hedge anymore. Oh, no, I'm not just... Now I'm playing it. I still bet it's fantastic. But it has to be fantastic in a horrifying way. Maybe I should stream the Sunfloat Planers. No, the Gnocchi... Sorry. Look at Gnocchi in chat.

2:39:31Luke Lafreniere:I'm dying. The outro has swears nonstop with one-liners. Oh, man. All right. Oh, man. Okay. DoorDash, hey, here's some good news, has agreed to$131 million settlement with New York City over wage theft claims. New York has had a minimum pay rule for app delivery workers since 2023. The city's Department of Consumer and Worker Protection audited DoorDash against it, going through more than 152 million payments and 110 million working hours. They found that DoorDash failed to pay thousands of workers for completed deliveries and paid thousands more late. They also found DoorDash left out some trip time and on-call time when calculating what workers were owed.

2:40:19Luke Lafreniere:These violations run from April 2022 through June 2026 and affect more than a quarter million workers. About$115 million of the settlement goes directly to the workers with payments starting in late October. The rest cover civil penalties, a worker-run compliance program, and admin costs. The city says it is the largest worker settlement in NYC history. DoorDash had a statement. It opens with, simply put, we screwed up. The company blames technical bugs and messy edge cases, like deliveries that crossed city lines or were partially fulfilled or cancelled. It also says less than 1 % of NYC payments were affected.

2:40:59Luke Lafreniere:By DoorDash's numbers,$12.3 million covers missing and late payments, which works out to an average missing payment of$7.70 and a median payout of about$48. The bigger piece is over$83 million to settle a dispute over how to count time that dashers spend online between deliveries. Mamdani rejected the mistakes framing and called the violations sustained and rampant. In January, the same agency accused DoorDash and Uber Eats of using what it called design tricks in their tipping flows. The city says that those changes cost workers more than$550 million in tips after December 2023, when average tips reportedly fell from$3.66 per order to under$1.

2:41:41Luke Lafreniere:The Uber Eats side is still unresolved. Separately, the New York State Attorney General got$16.75 million from DoorDash in 2025 over tips that were withheld between 2017 and 2019. Linus Note my question here is if this is one city admittedly a very big city but if this is just one city how much are these companies pocketing that they shouldn't i mean you know in my life youtube is the one that i trust to calculate my adsense correctly trust is a strong word here that i am forced to trust to calculate what i'm being paid correctly how much are we being hundreds of millions of over a hundred million dollars luke yeah i mean the the whole time you're

2:42:33Linus Sebastian:reading that i was just thinking i mean this should be if i'm a state if i'm a representative of a state i'd be jumping on this immediately it's just like follow new york's state of province Anywhere in the world This isn't just like these guys are all over the place I don't think DoorDash is just North American

2:42:52Luke Lafreniere:Dude this is what people Mean when They when they talk about corporations Paying their fair share it's not Even like okay yeah some Of it is hey you know tax them more do This do that but a lot of it is like no Just honor the deal That you made Like I'm man I'm sitting Here and I find it very frustrating when i see the kind of nickel and diming that goes on with taxation and then i see stuff like this and i go the bounty that is there for the irs or the cra or other government officials to go after here is so colossal and as far as i can tell the only reason they don't do it is because larger companies have more legal resources they can fight you to make it difficult but how quickly the new the new new york administration is making these things happen like yeah it's good dude i feel like oh mamdani is a naturalized citizen right so he could never run for president yeah i think so but like all you have to do is follow this blueprint and basically become beloved just like actually be on the side of the people who live in your city or state or country or province or wherever it is that you happen to be and is that why trump's cool with him you can't run for president i don't know i mean he's i don't know he's cool with people if he's in the same room with them and then he's immediately on true social yelling about them so who can tell i i think i think to someone like that um words are just noise and they're just whatever noise you need to make in whatever moment that is most convenient and most um beneficial and it's like why are you even mad bro i just said whatever words i had to say uh yeah i don't i don't think it's i don't think it's that complicated and that deep frankly

2:44:54Linus Sebastian:someone said in in chat uh Oh, crap. Where'd it go? Pavan in chat said, shout out Lina Khan for also doing this as well. Was she involved in this? I don't know. Probably. She's an advisor to Mumdani. Oh. Yeah. She's such a badass. I was, well, I know, but I was thinking, we used to talk about it all the time, but she's stepped into less public view. So I was kind of wondering what she's been up to. She's cooking. Oh, I'm sure. I just was wondering what it was.

2:45:22Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, yeah. Let her cooked. Cool. Good job. Oh, wait. Wiley Draft says What? Oh yeah she's part of the MomDotting admin. Yeah okay so I was up to date on that Yeah sick She's awesome. Alright you know what else is Awesome? Oh whoops no I had already taken the awesome One this was it. Okay Let's go with something not awesome Disney Rolled out an updated Agreement that went out by email to subscribers In the UK and Germany starting September 17th. The wording says now that every plan may include promotional content, sponsorships, and advertisements before and after playback of content and in channels, live slash as live, special events, and any third-party services content.

2:46:09Luke Lafreniere:In plain terms, standard and premium still won't get commercial breaks in the middle of on-demand movies and shows, but trailers, sponsor messages, and pre-roll or post-roll ads are fair game now. Junior mode profiles are the only ones exempt from all of this. Disney told Screen Rant that nothing about the viewing experience on Standard or Premium is changing, and that older agreements already allowed this. Okay. Nobody in the US or Canada received a new agreement. This is just the European version that's stating in clearer language what the ad-free label has evidently meant for a while. I mean, this shouldn't surprise us at all.

2:46:45Luke Lafreniere:I mean, back when we bought a movie for$20,$30, it still came with ads on it. So we can move on. What do you want to talk about? Opi-dopi.

2:46:55Linus Sebastian:We're running out of things

2:46:56Luke Lafreniere:that are not the meta event this week.

2:46:59Linus Sebastian:Yeah, I want to talk about this though. You can keep trying to avoid it. I really don't know what I think about the title of this, but I'm going to read the title of it anyways. It's just not my title. Okay? Microsoft tries to patent a way to piss off gamers a tiny bit less is the title. The body of this text is a patent application from microsoft proposes inserting games inserting games into ads no ads into games yes okay uh but only when the game signals that it's a good time which is i guess why they're saying a little bit less of piss off uh with what it's called a promoted content trigger event so in theory your game isn't interrupted right in the middle of a boss fight is just interrupted at some point yeah this is pissing enough people off that my barber asked me about it really unprompted

2:48:00Linus Sebastian:it's amazing he's like you you'd like you know game stuff yeah i was like yeah he's like you know what this microsoft ad thing i was like yeah he's like what the heck's up with that i don't

2:48:11Luke Lafreniere:like that when it makes its way into like the parents of my kids friends and our barbers and our like non-techie relatives this is like he's like he wasn't a hundred percent sure that elder

2:48:28Linus Sebastian:scrolls and skyrim were the same thing like that's you know he kind of likes games but he has kids he doesn't have a ton of time he doesn't get around to playing much but he knew about hey this is my entertainment i paid for why the heck are there more ads coming from my junk this is so annoying and he was talking about how like barber he's been unsubscribing from more and more uh like netflix-y type platforms and stuff and he was talking about the price increases that have happened to disney plus he's got kids and blah blah blah and it's really annoying him and he's annoyed of all these ads jumping in everywhere tell him about five dollar teen burgers yeah i should uh i i told them that my theory on this which might be totally based on nothing and i haven't fully read any of these articles so maybe it's already you know pushed away or whatever but my theory on this is that this is a game pass tier potential thing i don't think this is going to be always but maybe i don't know like i my my take on this is assuming i buy forza and it doesn't wait and then the second i win a race it serves me an ad my guess isn't that my guess is that it does that if i go on the ad supported tier of game pass that's my guess you can hope

2:49:48Luke Lafreniere:i mean i think a game like if there's a forza game where it serves me an ad after a race and

2:49:54Linus Sebastian:i bought the game for full price i will not buy that game i will refund it i will not play it okay

2:49:59Luke Lafreniere:I think a game like Forza is actually a really interesting one to use as an example because of how much opportunity there is for product placement in a game that is just about products. Yeah. We literally stare at the butt end of a product literally the entire time.

2:50:20Linus Sebastian:Okay, let's say we're playing NHL 2027.

2:50:24Luke Lafreniere:Okay, you get an ad for Sportsnet Plus during a loading screen.

2:50:29Linus Sebastian:Nah.

2:50:30Luke Lafreniere:Okay.

2:50:30Linus Sebastian:So you're playing Forza. The boards. I'm actually kind of okay with that. Does that make sense? Hold on.

2:50:39Luke Lafreniere:Back to Forza for a second. Sure. You're in Forza. You, again, loading screen, natural brake. You fire up a Ford Mustang and you get a phone number for Brown Brothers Ford.

2:50:57Linus Sebastian:no see i think the thing that drives me nuts is i would assume that the loading screen took longer because of the ad and it probably would what if it didn't i don't believe it what if it went what if it was shorter on faster computers i feel like this is a stab man thing stab man because technically they had to load the ad they did but what if the ad was static what

2:51:19Luke Lafreniere:of a static image i don't believe that you don't believe it's a static image i don't believe that

2:51:26Linus Sebastian:it's going to be a static image i believe stab man is stabbing um i heard someone say that they're possibly going to do this patent to prevent other companies from being able to i actually mentioned this to the barber guy that's really interesting okay uh zaleth in in chat said i heard someone say that they're possibly going after this patent to prevent other companies from being able to generate ad filled games i brought up that that has happened before and in the gaming industry i don't remember what patent it is i don't remember what company but this this type of thing oh we don't want people to do that we're going to patent this and then sit on it and never do it has happened before i don't know if lopin chast can be able to have the example sony did something like that i said to the barber guy that i thought it was sony but i didn't remember what it was

2:52:13Luke Lafreniere:Oh Sony apparently holds a patent This is according to Dax WAN bingo team That makes you yell at the Yell the product name at the TV to end the ad They're holding it just so that nobody Builds a product like that And they've never used it This has technically happened But that's Sony

2:52:31Linus Sebastian:This is Microsoft I don't believe it Sony's doing some weird stuff these days too I also caveated that to the barber guy because i mentioned the whole physical games thing and then apparently he's aware of that

2:52:45Luke Lafreniere:too and that annoyed him as well avon fox said in dead space 4 i got to a crafting bench and there's an ltt screwdriver that i can unlock if i watch an ad that's true no is it a mod

2:53:02Linus Sebastian:uh there's no way ltt screwdriver in dead space 4 i think you would know i i would think i would

2:53:09Luke Lafreniere:know but i remember someone i remember our screwdriver being in there is no dead space for oh oh they're joking about a future i just remember i remember someone showing me our screwdriver in a game at some point it might have been like a really small one or something though i don't remember anymore anyway yeah whoosh yeah sorry listen listen i don't know i don't keep track of how many dead spaces there are i know there's at least two that i know i don't know if there were ever any after that though all right you're not going to be able to avoid it forever

2:53:43Linus Sebastian:uh samsung accidentally freezes its smart fridges with a software update customers reporting food spoiling um samsung has pulled a smart things update after it caused several bespoke ai fridges in south korea i think those are insanely expensive but okay uh bespoke ai fridges in south korea to stop cooling um to stop cooling i thought i said it froze them.

2:54:07Luke Lafreniere:I don't know. Yeah. Freezes the functioning of the coldness.

2:54:13Linus Sebastian:Okay. Don't worry about it.

2:54:15Luke Lafreniere:Nice.

2:54:16Linus Sebastian:Don't overthink it. The update was reportedly only meant for testing. Sure, it is unclear how it managed to be pushed to customers. I mean, mistakes do be happening. What's worse is that it took place right before Chuseok, a major harvest holiday that many describe as Korean Thanksgiving. Oof. Discussion question is can we all agree that smart home stuff is great in theory but not in practice? I don't agree with that. I don't want you to control it. I want to control it myself. Well, when you control it yourself, there's all kinds of problems with that too. Sure. I'd just rather be the one responsible.

2:54:51Linus Sebastian:If I'm going to push a software update to my fridge, maybe I'll know that that software update happened and I might like check it. If my fridge just randomly updates itself, that's a piss off.

2:55:01Luke Lafreniere:Well, sometimes your garage door mechanism might just update itself on how it detects. So right now, apparently three of my garage doors are open. They're not. But apparently a driver update caused my particular relays and their voltage sensors to, instead of reporting via a value from zero to 255, they now report an absolute voltage value. And so all of my stuff is dingle boppers and see, but at least they're such a chore. Even when they're like really good, inviting smart into your home is inviting an ongoing battle. My house is so dumb. Yeah.

2:55:53Linus Sebastian:It's so dumb.

2:55:54Luke Lafreniere:You were smart to do it that way. Yeah. And it's, it's just thoroughly dumb. With that said, when it works, it's kind of magic. There are some things I do want to smartify. I have all of the bathrooms are like, you just don't touch light switches in them, which is like honestly better. And then all of our hallways and stairwells. They all have sensors near enough to them so that if you walk around at different times of day. You should talk to AJ more. About? This stuff. Oh, I can.

2:56:28Linus Sebastian:Yeah.

2:56:29Luke Lafreniere:um anyway pretty good with home smart home stuff uh anyway all of my uh yeah all of my like lights as i walk around will light up the zone that i'm in and like the next place that i'm probably going and then depending on the time of day it'll be at like different brightness uh that was that was a fun rabbit hole learning how like time of day and then i think it's like it's is it a choose entity or whatever it is like basically basically you create like a logic branch for what it does with different conditions. And so I've done this. I was talking earlier about how I've learned how to do things like multiple different ways.

2:57:06Luke Lafreniere:I'm on about the fourth iteration of learning how to do time of day different brightness. And I think I finally got it down to the point where it works well enough that the time I invested in learning to do it a better way would be a waste because I could have my whole house done before I would actually do that. Yeah. But man, it's pretty freaking cool. catOS I am on hacks I'll have to have a look at that but I also don't think it will be necessary because I've kind of got things kind of figured out pretty good right now

2:57:36Linus Sebastian:man you said there's not a lot of topics left before meta but there sure do be quite a few topics left it was a huge

2:57:43Luke Lafreniere:week I don't know what the heck is going

2:57:45Linus Sebastian:on but it was a huge week yeah Google Books launch October 4th God who cares based on you want to just not talk about it let's talk about it Google was launched October 4th based on new Android Google book. OS Google is taking a crack at laptops again with the all new Google books. Pre-orders are live and I didn't add the period there, but pre-orders are live and they'll be on shelves on October 4th in the U S that's like next weekend. Uh, they run Google book OS, an Android operating system that's replacing Google Chrome OS or just Chrome OS. Uh, this is Google's first new operating system in 15 years.

2:58:22Sure.

2:58:23Linus Sebastian:designed to feel intuitive to anyone who's ever held an Android smartphone or tablet. It uses Material 3 expressive design, which has been in use since Android 16. Google Book OS relies heavily on AI, offering support for AI agents like Claude CLI. And with Antigravity, it provides... Offering support for AI agents like Not Theirs. And with Antigravity, which is their thing, I believe. although just like someone else mentioned this the other day I don't know anyone who's ever used it anti-gravity is just like the weirdest does anyone chat use anti-gravity? at least I would maybe know the username of a single person who does I don't know I use Uncle Mass

2:59:12Luke Lafreniere:my deeply religious relative the brother of my mother

2:59:16Linus Sebastian:AJ does? What the heck? Crazy I love that AJ's the only person in chat that says that they do

2:59:27Linus Sebastian:no one else has it all it's just AJ why why AJ is it just you got free tokens or something we have credit for it yeah

2:59:44Linus Sebastian:yeah that explains it so pragmatic

2:59:50Linus Sebastian:Okay. All right. That makes a lot of sense. Oh, geez. Okay. Where was I? Yeah. And it all, you know, also works with anti-gravity. It provides a built-in tool for developers who should program further AI support for themselves. Google is also promising 10 years of updates for its Google Books. Wow. New updates are expected to be released every three months, once a quarter. these new devices aren't immune to rising hardware prices of course the more affordable google books from dell and hp start at$899 while other manufacturers models can reach $1 ,300 or higher all google books will come with a year of google ai pro five terabytes of google drive storage for a year i'm assuming and a year of geforce now for game streaming really

3:00:42Luke Lafreniere:interesting partnership i am so disappointed in the direction that google took their laptop operating systems they had an opportunity in my opinion humble opinion humble over here they had an opportunity that i think was just so obviously better than the direction that they've taken it and i cannot even begin to express my dissatisfaction i think that Chrome OS, Google OS, whatever you want to call it, Google Book OS, I think it could have been the mainstream Linux distro. It was already Linux-based. They already could have, you know, done what Valve is doing. I mean, they already did a bunch of the work of making Android apps, like ARM applications run on x86 Chromebooks.

3:01:32Luke Lafreniere:Like, they were so close and they just couldn't, they couldn't loosen the reins and just let it become like a really a really polished google first linux platform i um yeah scrappy dp says they want to lock it down yeah and but i don't want a locked down laptop yeah i don't think anybody wants a locked down laptop schools right for like deploying them to students but they're just going to go to neos

3:02:11Linus Sebastian:they're like basically the same price i think neos are 899 now as well or they'll just be stuck

3:02:15Luke Lafreniere:in just like you know cheapo cheapo laptop price point that's unprofitable for everyone involved forever like they could have like they go and they release products like the like the pixel book in the past it's like oh yeah it's really really really you know premium and the hardware felt great but like what am i gonna run on it i don't need fancy hardware to run a chrome browser i want a real computer and so i just and i've seen no evidence that the android app ecosystem has matured to the same level that ios has thanks to the ipad largely and how that's basically a computer now that you've got all these options for like folio and like keyboard covers and stuff like that um so i don't see the soft the android software being a good enough experience on this thing i don't see the adoption and the funding that google would have to put into linux software to make that a great experience so i just don't understand the point of them and neos are cheaper they're not going to win that battle so then what are we even talking about yeah it's a good question we're talking about meta no there's other things there's really not much left there is other things though uh i could find one you like vr china they made they they mended fences with palmer lucky he was in the ad was he yeah what he made like a cameo they That's so strange.

3:04:03Linus Sebastian:China probes DeepSeek and Moonshot AI over Anthropix claims that they wrote requests to Claude. On September 22nd, the information reported that China's Cyberspace Administration opened a data security probe into DeepSeek and Moonshot. This probe is the result of a threat intelligence report released by Anthropix a couple weeks ago. In that report, they stated that they caught a number of Chinese frontier AI companies secretly routing their users' AI queries to Claude and using the responses to train their own models, aka distillation attacks. Wait, what?

3:04:39Luke Lafreniere:I thought everyone just knew this. We did. But now the Chinese government is saying it's not cool. Which is interesting for reasons you'll get to it.

3:04:48Linus Sebastian:This is an issue for the Chinese government because it raises concerns that state secrets could leak to the U.S. through these distillation attempts. That doesn't sound like distillation. That sounds like offloading your active work. It's both. Why not both? Okay, well, my understanding was that this works differently.

3:05:07Luke Lafreniere:Either way, what user queries are being routed to an American company. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And potentially, these are Chinese users, potentially even party members, who don't think they're using an American tech company. they think they're using deep seek but it's actually being rerouted so this is an actual

3:05:25Linus Sebastian:concern my only problem with all of that is that they called it aka distillation attacks it's both

3:05:31Luke Lafreniere:yeah because if you like the scale of it that anthropic found they were doing it at is clearly designed to help them refine their models maybe as well as just like reroute the answer yeah um We wrote the answer thing.

3:05:46Linus Sebastian:This is the first I've heard of that for sure. I've heard potentials of that, but anyways, whatever. It doesn't matter. I'm dying on a hill that no one cares about. This is an issue for the Chinese government because it raises concerns that state secrets could leak to the U.S. through these distillation attempts. Anthropic explicitly stated that some of the routed requests included information connected to a network of surveillance cameras near Chinese military facilities. according to the report the query was submitted by a user who is was likely affiliated with affiliated with the people's liberation army so the chinese military yeah uh neither company has committed publicly commented publicly ironically the same day that this news broke one of the company's named inanthropics report jowmy the the phone company uh they they make ai now too of course because i think they also make cars and everyone whatever yeah uh they dropped an open weight model uh mimo v 2.6 that topped a bunch of performance benchmarks smart money says that the model was probably trained by distilling clod and that's like i mean yeah we've known that bit

3:06:54Luke Lafreniere:for a long time can i just jump in that i don't feel bad for anthropic like even a little yeah

3:06:59Linus Sebastian:who cares okay cool uh discussion question what do you think what do you think of the strategy is what do you think the strategy is with the chinese frontier companies being so willing

3:07:09Luke Lafreniere:to release open weight models i think they're just damaging american companies yeah i've talked

3:07:12Linus Sebastian:about this on WAN my entire theory on this has always been that it's just economic warfare oh you spent all this money making this thing what if I just released it for free oh cool watch the

3:07:23Luke Lafreniere:stock market go I mean it's not working it did at the beginning yeah one time yeah but then why do they keep doing it that seems to be a bigger question I think they are continuing to make

3:07:36Linus Sebastian:them spend incredible amounts of money you think so because they're constantly racing and by by taking the ground under them, even if it's not affecting the stock market, it is making them constantly race to try to be ahead.

3:07:49Luke Lafreniere:But they're also racing with each other. You kind of don't have to. But then, yeah, making it cheaper does increase that pressure. It's just, I mean, that's only been a thing relatively recently.

3:08:04Linus Sebastian:It's making the American companies keep their prices down, and it's making the American companies keep their spending up.

3:08:15Luke Lafreniere:China has shown time and time again though that their ultimate interest will be to leapfrog the offshore technology and it just this doesn't seem like a path to that but maybe it doesn't matter in the shorter term

3:08:27Linus Sebastian:I think they are watching the Americans burn themselves alive in the short term and I think they're pulling an apple where they're just like, eh, you guys will figure it out. Then they'll jump in later. I know like Meta's whole thing on like, oh my God, if we don't own the data centers now, we're screwed. We'll fall behind. And then if you look at like almost the history of all of these types of things, that's just completely irrelevant.

3:08:59Linus Sebastian:Interesting. Speaking of Meta.

3:09:04Luke Lafreniere:That's all you got. Nope. Meta Connect 2026.

3:09:07Linus Sebastian:Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. no, no, no, there's still more. You're wrong. At Meta Connect 2026, they introduced... Lab's article. What LLMs you can actually use on your game PCs. Oh, fine.

3:09:18Luke Lafreniere:Okay. Meta introduced a new audio glasses category that doesn't have cameras, which they say will enable lighter, slimmer designs and all-day battery life. I don't know if they ever actually acknowledged this explicitly, but I saw a lot of people calling these the non-perv smart glasses. Ah. so it's only slightly creepy because they can you know they have microphones on them but at least they don't have cameras between new and upgraded models meta says they now offer 51 style combinations and aim to offer more than 100 by the end of the year including the full color ray-band display glasses and the meta neural band meta also unveiled new meta vr glasses offering an immersive high-resolution display in a form factor that looks a lot more like a pair of rather beefy sunglasses and a lot less like a traditional VR headset.

3:10:12Luke Lafreniere:It weighs in at about 100 grams on your face, though it is worth noting that there is a tethered compute puck very similar to the Apple Vision Pro paradigm. You know what's funny about that is, we called it, do you remember that project where we strapped a compact gaming pc to a hiking backpack and then put a vr headset on it that was always the future the future was never going to be a computer strapped to your head it was always going to be a computer strapped to your body with something lightweight on your head so it's uh it's been interesting to see the big companies

3:10:48Linus Sebastian:we've been talking about that specific concept on wansho since the garage even before the backpack

3:10:54Luke Lafreniere:The big difference is that no one has yet come around to the thing that we've said this whole time, which is, hey, I'm already carrying this. Just an idea. Anyway, actually, you know what? That's not even necessarily true. Nice. I got like no views. Yep. That's not even necessarily true. What's so nuts? Xreal is very into it runs off of your phone. anyway the 1299 us dollar glasses feature a 5k display with micro oled panels with dolby vision and dolby atmos and are connected via an optical tether to a rectangular puck that contains a new qualcomm snapdragon elite processor alongside a battery that's capable of up to three hours of high-res playback and 45 watt fast charging meta says that these are the first vr device to be IMAX enhanced certified, making them one of the only ways to get the IMAX experience at home and that they're also working with Disney on 3D experiences and ESPN for immersive sports.

3:12:02Luke Lafreniere:Is 3D coming back? Let's go. 3D, 3D, 3D, 3D. Has it been, has it been the right amount of time for 3D to come back again? 3D, 3D. As, as I love 3D. I love 3D. It's the kind of thing that I like never use, but totally love, you know, know what I'm saying? meta also mentions virtual workspaces with multiple virtual monitors and a virtual keyboard and touchpad alongside full access to the meta quest catalog and hundreds of streaming games from xbox cloud gaming i saw this claim this is not in my notes but i think it was their like chief technology officer or something like some some some big wig apparently reached 100 words per minute on the touch keyboard which seems like the kind of thing that someone obsessive enough could try hard enough to get good at, but oh my God, please just give me a proper keyboard.

3:12:52Luke Lafreniere:That sounds horrible. Thank you. Thank you, Meta. We have another Meta talk. Oh yeah, so any thoughts? There's a couple kind of key things that people are really talking about here that are not really in the notes. The lightweightness. Obviously that sounds kind of appealing. Sure. 100 grams? They are literally glasses. I would hope so. It's about 500 grams for a Quest 3 by comparison, like 700, 800 for an Apple Vision Pro. Just to put that in context, 100 grams is like very wearable however we go from i think it's about 110 degree field of view on the meta quest 3 to uh 70 yeah but would you trade that for a much more wearable form factor no i use tethered cool good chat i'm not the target now let's talk about another thing you're not the target for meta has debuted a dedicated palm-sized charm device to use their new ai assistant muse on the go it's an ai device kind of like the humane pin but instead of being a wearable bloomberg has it listed as a holdable oh that's like worse which serves the

3:14:08Luke Lafreniere:basically they seem to be going for high-tech tamagotchi vibes with a two-inch oled touchscreen that lets you see and interact with the animated personification of Muse, which looks like a little abominable snowman thing.

3:14:29Luke Lafreniere:My question was, what the heck is Muse? Because they have managed to penetrate even my ad block. I was playing Wordscapes with Yvonne, and we still haven't paid the$13 or whatever to eliminate ads from it. So I got like six ads in a row from Muse and I was like, okay, what is this thing? Basically, it's Meta's answer to ChatGPD and Claude. It was launched earlier this month with iPhone and Android apps as well as a dedicated web portal and it's an AI agent that is supposed to be able to surf the web and shop on your behalf. It hit number one on the App Store, unseating the reigning champ, ChatGPT.

3:15:10Luke Lafreniere:Now let's talk about what is the charm and why does...

3:15:12Linus Sebastian:Apparently Amazon blocked it from shopping on Amazon.

3:15:15Luke Lafreniere:I read a rumor thinking about this. Yeah. I wonder why. Because people would return stuff or because they just don't want bots shopping on Amazon? I wouldn't think they would care as long as you buy more stuff from them.

3:15:29Linus Sebastian:Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yahoo Finance article, Amazon Blocks met his muse. That seems crazy, honestly. Why would they care? The teleporting hyper ads on Yahoo Finance is a hell of a thing. But yeah, apparently that happened.

3:15:49Luke Lafreniere:This feels like such a short-sighted, wow, we just really want people to use Alexa. Please use Alexa. So not letting people use the thing that they're using.

3:15:59Linus Sebastian:Rufus? What's Rufus? Amazon Rufus? Like the USB Dude, what's with the names of these things?

3:16:08Luke Lafreniere:I mean, let's not pretend the 90s was any better. Ask Jeeves I like that. The fact that Ask Jeeves did not get rebranded as an AI agentic thing is wild to me I agree

3:16:20Linus Sebastian:Amazon announces Rufus a new generative AI powered conversational shopping experience so they blocked it because they want you using Rufus

3:16:29Luke Lafreniere:Okay, if anyone, like, you know, I'll make you an offer. Five bucks.

3:16:34Linus Sebastian:That's, like, the worst time to shut this down. Five bucks. Actually crazy.

3:16:38Luke Lafreniere:Five bucks. I want Jeeves' spirit to live on, okay? IAC Inc., hit me up, slide into my DMs. Anyway, carry on.

3:16:47Linus Sebastian:Dude, AJ can have that up and running in no time. Let's go. But, yeah, Rufus is apparently a thing. SyntaxVGM says, the amount of times I've just been trying to shop and Rufus pops its stupid butt up and shifts my entire screen to the right has actually lost conversions from me. Wait, Amazon's is called Rufus? That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Why they have all these weird names.

3:17:14Luke Lafreniere:Man, I don't, I just, man, no, I don't want to take your money. Not like that. That's crazy work. that's insane like if if it was generating fraudulent orders or something like that or like like unintentional orders and it was like causing a bunch of returns then sure right like that's a good justification but just i have my own ai shopping agent please use mine that's crazy work anyway back to what is the charm and why does muse need a gadget the charm apparently has a lot of the same tech that a smartphone has. So 5G modem to keep Muse working away from Wi-Fi, front and back cameras so you can ask Muse about your surroundings, a fingerprint sensor, speakers, microphones, and USB-C charging.

3:18:03Luke Lafreniere:It cannot make phone or video calls. And why does it need a gadget? As far as I can tell, actually, this is really great. This is from our writer who prepped the article. This is me editorializing, so feel free to ignore it. you know what i'm not going to ignore it i think this is a really good point basically zuck needed a win to keep meta in the ai game this is a way to do it meta stock jumped 25 after muse was announced so he's back in the running for whatever prize all these ai guys are vying for also as an added bonus this is a device that is always with the user is completely controlled by meta meaning that it can feed a way richer data stream back to their servers than an iphone or android app will ever be able to with all of their pesky privacy settings and for meta more data means more targeted ads which means more money it also counts as a rare ai win for meta because it beats open ai to the market with a dedicated ai device apparently best buy has a shopping agent too go figure so as someone who doesn't buy a lot of stuff online this is fascinating want to hear my hot take and horrible what's up these are going to take off yeah probably they're going to be absolutely everywhere.

3:19:17Luke Lafreniere:You are going to be listened to absolutely everywhere by mics that you don't even know. I had an experience recently at the tech house where one of the assistants for like the interior design consultant that we were talking to, I was like an hour into a meeting with her and I was like, are you not going to write anything down? And she's like, nope, I've got my, I've got my AI recorder here. That's making notes on all of this for me. And I was like, you are the normiest normie that i've met in at least several weeks um and this is one of those like get out of our reddit like tech tube bubbles and wake up people are just embracing this hardcore and they're going to be everywhere and there's absolutely nothing we can do about it yeah i didn't even know didn't realize i was being recorded for an hour and it didn't even occur to her to tell me it is an interesting thing because it was like of course i am that like how would i get anything done if i didn't have my ai assistant recording everything

3:20:22Linus Sebastian:yeah the normies don't care about ai stuff taking their jobs at all as far as i can tell

3:20:29Luke Lafreniere:oh no like dude i i think i told this story on when before but the guy who worked at like the compliance office or whatever was just like stoked he didn't need a marketing department anymore it was like oh yeah we just have ai do all of it it's great like okay

3:20:48Luke Lafreniere:anywho there's some other fun stuff for the charm a customizable muse character lives at the center of the screen a little tamagotchi like monster two charms placed near each other can recognize and interact with each other the developer's internal name for it was claw magotchi so it Seems like a lot of it was inspired by the capabilities of the open claw agent.

3:21:07Linus Sebastian:And Tamagotchis makes sense.

3:21:09Luke Lafreniere:None of this really answers the question of why does this need to be a gadget, but Zuck said this, if you're not wearing glasses, this is going to be by far the fastest way to talk to your muse and show it what's going on around you.

3:21:30I am done.

3:21:32Linus Sebastian:I think after dark time can you can take them away okay there you go actually why don't you run through the labs article

3:21:38Luke Lafreniere:I gotta run to the wash okay hooray

3:21:40Linus Sebastian:More for AI The labs article what LLMs you can actually use on your gaming PC I Will read the the notes instead of going to the article first local LLM enthusiasts across the internet Which is the right way to do it across the internet will have absurdly expensive setups to host their AI personal assistants but most of us only have our gaming PCs. This article answers what level of models you're able to host yourself and what kind of things you can get done with a gaming PC worth of hardware. Now, this doesn't cover every card. This doesn't cover every possible use case, but it's a bit of a splash in the puddle.

3:22:23Linus Sebastian:We also CT scanned an iPhone 18 Pro and published the performance battery and charge results. People are very happy with the views on this. It's honestly probably easier if I just go to the article, but that link so you can actually see what is going on. Why did they go into a new window? That view of the CT scanner that you can see through LumaField is also linked in the article. So I'm going to go back here and you can see cool scans of the 18 Pro and also benchmarks and fun things like that. So that's one article. And then the other is the local AI article that I mentioned. Local AI, your gaming rig second job.

3:23:11Linus Sebastian:And then you can explain some stuff and then you can go into... Where are we at? Oh, we included... Interesting. Okay. I didn't expand that previously. but yeah it dives into a few different options and and you can check that out which is probably decently useful because there might be things that you would be interested in doing with AI that you don't necessarily want to share all the details of with with with public agents I haven't done the deep dive on this and I don't know if there's enough information to be conclusive about it yet but some of you if you've paid attention to the internet recently might have seen the news about a very, very difficult math problem being solved by OpenAI.

3:24:01Linus Sebastian:And some of the silliness surrounding that, including that they potentially got a lot of the information in order to solve it from someone who was using the chat GPT prompt. So things are weird. Maybe you're doing stuff with the frontier models that just really doesn't matter at all. It can be as public as you want because who knows, everyone can steal your information and it is irrelevant and won't be useful to anybody. But maybe that's not true. I don't know.

3:24:38Linus Sebastian:That's it, Dan. You want to after dark us? Yeah. You as well? You should have your own little purple light. Is it just, yeah, if we go to you, is it just not? Where are you? Yeah, there's just no purple. I don't have any of that. That? Yeah. Dang. All right, well, you got something for me? For you specifically. Oh, nice.

3:25:23Linus Sebastian:i haven't noticed i was muted that entire time

3:25:26Luke Lafreniere:uh do you want me to restate it what's up boys luke i know you take creatine but you take collagen as well i've been reading that it doesn't have much of an effect wondering what your thoughts

3:25:34Linus Sebastian:are i so yeah i've been taking creatine for a long time i saw immediate and noticeable results with creatine um i am one of those guys that uh when i'm working out in the gym especially when i'm working out alone i don't know if dan ever saw me actually do this but when i'm working out alone i'll have little notebooks and i like obsessively write down all my numbers oh you've

3:25:53Luke Lafreniere:seen me on my phone the entire time we've been working out yeah obsessive numbers so like if

3:25:58Linus Sebastian:you're doing something like that it's easier to notice the effects um yeah data is data is important collagen stuff i didn't really notice anything um to be honest creatine is the only supplement i've ever tried where i could tell that something happened that was yeah it was

3:26:13Luke Lafreniere:really weird it was the first time i took it too and it was like what the hell is this how did you guys get from llms to creatine look at the wall it has mecha chameleons in it it's got a purple oh it's after dark yeah so we can talk about whatever we want now yeah okay and there were the question mentioned let's talk about ideal areola size seven

3:26:41Luke Lafreniere:uh okay uh second the second one is also not for you basically i don't know i'm i'm not confident

3:26:48Linus Sebastian:enough in that one to say that people should take it or not i don't even know if it's helping

3:26:51Luke Lafreniere:me what areolas seven yeah you should take them orally ideally one for each hand

3:27:02Linus Sebastian:oh my god yeah anyways next sorry uh hey luke have you heard about the new game war dogs it's

3:27:12Luke Lafreniere:kind of a combination of old school battlefield arma king of the hill great show and tarkov

3:27:20Linus Sebastian:yeah uh no i've been told by a bunch of people i should try it i haven't gotten around to it yet

3:27:26Luke Lafreniere:There's so many games dude and there's a lot of games the rate at which new games get released ramps up like every year Like you cannot you cannot play all the it doesn't feel like it. It is it It's um, it's crazy a day currently on steam. That's that's crazy. Like you you that would be Less than half if you didn't sleep at all that would be less than half an hour To spend evaluating every game if you were to try to try every single game that was released on steam

3:27:54Linus Sebastian:that's nuts too many but yeah i i do actually really want to check out war dogs people seem pretty happy with it um the reviews on steam right now are 40 bucks very positive all right very positive is okay that's early access though i don't cheap for a modern shooter what are you

3:28:09Luke Lafreniere:talking about that's early access i've it's for a modern shooter by like someone i've never heard of before i don't know oh team 17 and bulkhead no team 17 i know i don't know bulkhead 40 bucks is reasonable. That's a good middle-of-the-road price.

3:28:23Linus Sebastian:Yeah, it's early access. It's 50 $49.99. It's early access, so I don't feel like I'm exactly pressed to try it right now. There's just a lot of stuff going on, so I have not jumped on it yet, but I do intend to do it in some way.

3:28:44Luke Lafreniere:100 players split across three teams fight for the control zone. so it's uh the main cell to me pirates vikings whatever the third one is uh ninjas or something uh i was gonna say ninjas it's definitely not ninjas damn it what's the third one

3:29:00Linus Sebastian:knights ah okay uh the main cell to me was that it feels more like old battlefield which i'm pretty there for oh yeah see fatal exception in full pain chat i'm loving war dogs feels like going back to battlefield bad company too like yeah okay so that's a pretty big self so here's a crazy idea go play battle for bad company 2 i don't even know if the servers are still up yeah yeah it's a shame that that's such a thing now also if you go and play those old games the servers are kind of weird it's it also what also sucks about playing old games is

3:29:34Luke Lafreniere:that the only people still playing them are obsessives freaking time who have been no-lifing it since then and it's just it's so unwelcoming to anyone who even might be pretty decent at the game but just hasn't played in a long time yeah 100 %

3:29:57oh okay

3:30:09Luke Lafreniere:new grounds that was a big new grounds kid i don't know if i frequented is something wrong with my my talk button because i was muted again oh uh this yeah just read it on the screen gonna use my five meter cables and umbilical cord for the steam frame one of the websites that you would frequent back in the day g nasa astronomy picture of the

3:30:31Linus Sebastian:day wimp strong bad emails i really i really like stumble upon okay because it helped me find other stuff i was even thinking the other day something that i might want to make for myself is a modern stumble upon by coded stumble upon just just for me and then you just tell it i liked this one i

3:30:50Luke Lafreniere:didn't like this one and it just goes in ai's it better every time yeah so if i can if i can make

3:30:55Linus Sebastian:my own if i can bring back the old internet for myself through like effectively stumble upon then that would be wicked. But yeah, I think because I liked things like stumble upon, I don't think I really frequented much stuff all that often. Necessarily.

3:31:20Linus Sebastian:I definitely did check out strong bad emails, but I don't think I like went there all the time. Hmm. Yeah. I don't think there was any site that I would like check every day.

3:31:32Luke Lafreniere:I was on New Grounds every day. I was on NCIX Forum every day, for sure. I was on like a lot of the... I was on OCN a bunch back in the day. I was more of an overclocked at our extreme overclocking.

3:31:45Linus Sebastian:Yeah, I liked overclocked at net. Extreme Systems as well. But even there...

3:31:49Luke Lafreniere:I'm sorry, Extreme Systems is the one I was thinking of.

3:31:52Linus Sebastian:Yeah, even overclocked at net. I wasn't there every day. I'd maybe, maybe twice a week. No. Like it wasn't usually that. I was there every day.

3:31:59Luke Lafreniere:I was probably on Red Flag deals almost every day. It's just like shopaholic for hardware and sellaholic. Like when you're buying and selling, there's always something going on.

3:32:11Linus Sebastian:Yeah, anyways. I'm sure there's something, I just don't remember it really.

3:32:17Luke Lafreniere:Linus, is there anything you considered waterproof? Suggestions? Diamonds. More water. Black holes. P.S. More mouse pad sized desk pads, please. Okay, thanks, bye. Yes. I do consider something that, you know, reasonably over a very extended period of time is waterproof to be waterproof. I consider a five gallon bucket to be waterproof for all intents and purposes. When I say like, you know, water makes fools of us all, water plus time equals the Grand Canyon. I'm mostly just being facetious. The reason that I don't really engage with Vessi's claims of waterproofness is that over a period of time that I could expect to wear a pair of shoes, me being a crazy person who wears my shoes extremely hard.

3:33:08Luke Lafreniere:We both only fairly recently realized that people have more than one pair. I could defeat the waterproofness of Vessi's shoes. if you if vessie made gumboots then that were like made of rubber which by the way they shouldn't because i'm actually a big fan of vessie's i really like the shoes i like their diamantex material it is breathable it pairs extremely well with our with our uh with our socks um like i like them but if they made them out of like rubber like uh like like like fisherman's boots, then I would say they were waterproof. But they're just, they're not waterproof. They are quite very water resistant as long as the integrity of their water resistance stays good.

3:33:57Luke Lafreniere:And that's not a bad thing. And I can understand their stance that it actually is, you know, waterproof within the way that they define it. it does in fact you can like we've we've shot our own videos validating that you can take a pair of Esses and you can like put them into water and pull them out and the sock is dry like that's totally a thing but I live in Vancouver or I walk around in Taiwan and I get back to my hotel in Taipei during a downpour and my socks are definitely wet did all of it make its way in through the top maybe or maybe some of it came through i don't know but i've definitely had my feet get wet in them before so i can't say waterproof i'm i'd be happier with water resistant but they were really not into that they wanted me to say the words waterproof and i said okay well i'll say they say they're waterproof and they were like okay that's where i'm at on it hello lld question for linus as a tech dad have you ever considered making a locally hosted private social network for just your kids and their immediate friends something with your safeguards

3:35:06Linus Sebastian:oh i would never use that as a kid no there's no way no we have um we have if i would be okay with my kids using that if it was controlled by someone else either we have an understanding with

3:35:18Luke Lafreniere:our kids that we're allowed to do phone checks we tell them when we're going to do it we do it together we're not looking at their phone without them so we don't see anything they don't see us see um i see no reason the way that my kids use their technology with some parental controls and with also just some you know supervision and parenting i see no reason that i would have to do that i don't think it's uh good for their social lives i mean i already was like no snap um if i was to say no you can't use discord you have to use my custom social network instead i

3:35:52Linus Sebastian:think that's like yeah you're just the crazy guy yeah i think um i think there's got to be

3:35:58Luke Lafreniere:there's got to be give and take in any relationship including one where you're supposed to quote unquote the authority right like just because i'm an authority figure in their life doesn't mean that i can just like dictate how they live it doesn't quite work like that was thinking of getting the rgb beanie but already have last year's one are these the same yeah just new colors so same same great warmness and comfort and fit um new updated cute colors that are like seasonal we have like actual fashion people these days who do things like they'll have like a seasonal palette that they like draw from to do our designs and and stuff it's like crazy hat and it's released when it's getting colder out i know instead of in the middle of summer

3:37:00Linus Sebastian:nuts if you know like history of ltd store that is mind-blowing forward planning traditionally we would release heavy winter jackets in the middle of summer and we release shorts in january it's

3:37:12Luke Lafreniere:november time for your swimming trunks in january sorry you would wear shorts in january i do yeah no it's uh the the apparel team has been really like executing on getting things done on season so you got to give them you got to give them credit for that man um hey it's working it's certainly working. You're doing a good job. Hey DLL, just saw the sock restock and instantly copped. Excited to try them. Curious if Luke has tried the board game Wingspan. It's all about birds and is also on Steam. Me and my wife love it.

3:37:46Linus Sebastian:Yeah, it was gifted to me. Wingspan. I am

3:37:49Luke Lafreniere:extremely not surprised. This game. Oh my god, is that a turkey?

3:37:54Linus Sebastian:Oh, Linus has to buy it now. Chickens!

3:38:01Luke Lafreniere:I got a new feeder and waterer for my chickens And we were training them how to peck the little metal nipple thing To get the water out And what else have I done with the chickens lately? Oh, I roofed their house Did I show that to you guys last week? I have to interject I don't know if you did Roguelike duck builder What? A duck builder? What? It's roguelike deck builder, but it's duck builder Because they're birds I'm so sorry I couldn't keep that I couldn't keep that to myself No ding No we don't ding No ding You get nothing I had to You get shunning Hold on I'm gonna send you this No no ding Ding is for Linus I think Luke gets them True I've come over and I've dinged it for you too I've actually You just aren't getting it for that I've also Pavloved myself Because now when I'm around other people that's not on the WAN show when somebody says a joke because you're on in the background and so i'm always like like five percent of my brain is listening to what's going on and so people are talking and it was that pun and then my hand moves and i'm like god damn it no it's it's a real thing that happens to me now too.

3:39:17Luke Lafreniere:That's crazy. Background task delping thing to help.

3:39:23Linus Sebastian:That's really funny. A little brutal, but really funny. I hate the team. Live and die for my art.

3:39:36Linus Sebastian:Alright, what's going on? Should we do the next one while he does this?

3:39:38Luke Lafreniere:I'm sure I've got another one for you here, Luke. I'm done.

3:39:40Linus Sebastian:I sent it. Okay.

3:39:41Luke Lafreniere:Okay. Well, it also takes me a minute to

3:39:47Luke Lafreniere:appropriately sanitized you'll figure it out looks oh by the way while you do that i'm going

3:39:52Linus Sebastian:to show it loaded lumenfield can take a second to load sometimes um but you can see the rotating

3:39:59Luke Lafreniere:iphone 18 pro so that's why i haven't been able to daily drive it you know dbrand's going to be very disappointed they're making me do a video on the iphone 18 pro i got it in and i was like is this really worth moving my whole life over to just so that I can go back to Android again in a couple weeks? And then D-Brand was like, yes, we're sponsoring the video. I was like, okay.

3:40:28Linus Sebastian:It happens to be worth it. Ah ha ha. Right. Yeah.

3:40:31Luke Lafreniere:Live and die for the art. Okay. I got it ready. Okay. You ready? Yay. I did it basically all wrong. So yeah. Did it wait? What? It'll leak

3:40:42Linus Sebastian:at some point yeah does not like overlap they do where's your soffits it looks like a seam you didn't even sorry what looks like a seam like they should do this right uh they do

3:40:56Luke Lafreniere:oh they're like they're like double the they're like double the length like half of them are covered there's an there's a tar strip under there and stuff i put a starter strip at the bottom like i did some stuff right my eyes kind of suck but it looks like a grid but i have to i have to go back and i have to put some um polyurethane goop on all the exposed nail i was just gonna say i see exposed nails yep um it's been a long time since i've done roofing but yeah like it's like i i didn't know what i was doing for the first time also these are just like leftover shingles from james who had a project that he had like one small chicken coop worth of leftover shingles from so i didn't have like a proper um uh what's it called the thing for the the peak the pieces for the top oh yeah i mean you can i forget what they're called they're in my they're in my like to-do list doc you can make those but i just no i just bought like one for a completely different kind of roof okay and just put it on the top because it doesn't really matter but um it seems to be waterproof it's been raining and they're uh cozy chickens and they're yeah they're they're happy they're happy chicky booze you're getting you're getting it's getting cold yep so it's there for them what are they called uh man this is really bothering me now because i definitely knew what they were called yeah ridge something what's a ridge something

3:42:20Linus Sebastian:okay people are ridge cap ridge cap people are backing me up that they you know on the on the bottom one which is where i was looking it looks like it's the thing that i was describing oh like

3:42:32Luke Lafreniere:that it what i just like put a textured sheet of like dbrand wrap that looks like roof basically

3:42:38Linus Sebastian:uh obviously not what you actually did but i was just making i didn't know if you'd ever roof before i was making sure you knew that they had to like overlap yeah yeah oh they're like way

3:42:46Luke Lafreniere:bigger so they're they're they're strips of three pieces each and then they're like twice as big yeah they're like they're like double the depth of what you can see yeah yeah i can see that i can see that on the detailed picture yeah i believe it yeah just yeah just making sure it's not that incompetent i mean what's what's under it is already like um like a stained piece of plywood but i was i looked it up i was like hey is is staining plywood enough to make it weather resistant and the answer is yes but actually no um so i was like okay well i'm not going to do this properly i'm not putting like gutters and downspouts on a stupid chicken coop but what i will do is i'll put some shingles on the roof and call it seems reasonable you know what's under the stained plywood hold on a second syphilis says you go from top down overlapping not what you did you went bottom up wait did you go bottom up yeah oh why would you not go bottom up that's

3:43:41Linus Sebastian:crazy bottom up wait why would you go bottom up because you start at the bottom and then you put the next one on and it comes down over top of the bottom one no i don't think that's right what Is that why it looked weird to me? What?

3:43:58Luke Lafreniere:No, it's definitely bottom up. How the hell would that... If you went top down, all the nails would be exposed. All the water would run under the one under it. If you started on the top, then you'd have to put the next one on top of that. I'm trying to remember how we did that. And then you'd have a gap here. That's crazy. What are you talking about, syphilis? I'm not crazy.

3:44:15Linus Sebastian:I just haven't done this in 20 years. No, no, syphilis is crazy.

3:44:18Luke Lafreniere:Probably has the one that makes you crazy. the syphilis something i forget what it's called i'm an std expert thank you for that dan um dang it what's it called why am i struggling right now he pushed a boulder syphilis no not that so one must imagine genitals happy wait what are you talking about syphilis says the bottom one then the one on top of it yeah

3:44:46Linus Sebastian:yeah duh that's what i mean that's what he's saying what that's what he is saying yeah so you

3:44:52Luke Lafreniere:start at the bottom then you put okay you put the starter strip along the bottom then you put a shingle on top of that then you put your next layer of shingles on top of that then the next one on top of that then the next one on top of that and they all overlap by about half so that when the water runs down and then they're offset like this so that the like gappy spots are in between where there's a covered spot it should be fine don't worry about it it's okay sheesh okay

3:45:24Luke Lafreniere:it's hyperventilating just a deep breath just says well it looked opposite you don't don't worry about the picture it's been compressed and then sent over teams and compressed again it just looked weird compressed on a youtube thing to you guys it's all good my chicky boos are dry which is all we need to know that is the important part oh man bloody hell okay hi birder biker and aqua appreciator i've been in tech for decades but only ever needed a single usbc what a piece of common tech people would assume you use a lot that you just don't oh i think people assume that i like obsess over the latest wi-fi i remember chatting with uh like a colleague this was like a while back and they were floored that i hadn't moved to wi-fi 7 yet and i was like why the f**k would i i don't care that's a great answer well i did until it got good enough yes well and i had a very specific reason for it i had an nvidia shield portable which is not the same as the shield thing they have now their branding was so confusing around this.

3:46:29Luke Lafreniere:I hate it when companies name two different products the same name. It's actually unnecessary and it's so confusing for anyone involved. Anyway, the NVIDIA Shield Retcon, so it was called NVIDIA Shield, then they changed it to Shield Portable. It was a little clamshell Android gaming system. I found mine the other day. So cool. When I was looking for the base stations. Nice. Really cool little device and it allowed you to game off of your desktop gaming system. over Wi-Fi, I played the entirety of Tomb Raider 2013 on it with a small child because I had nothing else to do. I was holding this baby that would cry if you put him down for two seconds.

3:47:09Luke Lafreniere:So I would like hold him in my arm and I would play video games while the stupid little thing slept. And it was awesome, except when it like didn't work all the time because anything other than that crazy$1 ,000 ruckus AP just like couldn't do it. That thing was wicked. um yeah that my r700 ap that thing or r710 i think it was so that was freaking awesome and i um needed fancy wi-fi in order to do it but that was like man that was like wi-fi five or something and it was good enough to do the 720p 60 fps stream that i needed uh but like the difference between wi-fi 6e and wi-fi 7 is like what are we even talking about here like the data rates are so high that any portable device is not benefiting from it in any meaningful way as far as i can tell like you're you might be able to get you know over a gigabit down and up on your phone but like man you're going to be busy resolving the freaking like url that you're supposed to be downloading from for more time than you're going to actually be downloading anything that's coming down to your phone like what are you people downloading so yeah what fancy wi-fi people just assume i'm super into it and i love seeing number go up i'm actually more excited for wi-fi eight i think i could move to wi-fi eight apparently wi-fi eight is all about just unfucking things quality of life quality of connection quality of roaming between access points there's no speed upgrade that's what i'm into right now that sounds great actually yeah yeah i'm down with that but no one else is going to answer that was for all of us i don't remember what the question was who something that people assume you're super into but you just don't use that much oh i think people well he never turns them on well i did okay he rarely and eventually

3:49:05Linus Sebastian:turns them on i i think there's i i saw some comments under what was it i think it was last wanshaw lordy we were talking about something to do with it and there's a bunch of people like raging that I haven't used it as much. I think my circumstances have made sense and I'm getting back into it now that my circumstances make sense to do that.

3:49:26Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, and I'm still going to tease you. It's really funny.

3:49:27Linus Sebastian:No, and that's fine. It's so funny. It was mostly the comments.

3:49:30Luke Lafreniere:It's so funny. The man who spends nothing on anything except a thing he never uses. It's great.

3:49:35Linus Sebastian:I'm using it!

3:49:36Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, finally.

3:49:37Linus Sebastian:Oh my god. It's amazing. I just have to do that and fix my house and then no one would be able to razz me. I'm still going to razz you. I think people think that I use AI more than I do. And I think it's similar to when the Linux challenge was going on. And people were acting like I was like... Linux guru. Linux guru. And I'm like, no, I have no idea what I'm talking about.

3:50:03Luke Lafreniere:No, but he's just used it before. And has like more of a development background. And those things...

3:50:08Linus Sebastian:I think people took that as like, oh, he's used it for years. I mean, he used it over a span of years. sure but usually for like weeks at a time yeah not years at a time i think part of it was the

3:50:21Luke Lafreniere:contrast right with someone who is quite literally never touched it and doesn't have a well i think

3:50:26Linus Sebastian:the contrast was fairly legitimate it's just i i would see comments of someone being like luke and i know this isn't what we said but this is the interpretation that they had luke has been using linux for years of course he's gonna understand all these different things and then i remember reading that and being like i don't know any of that i have no idea what you're talking about.

3:50:45Luke Lafreniere:Sifula says Luke gives big penguin energy. Maybe. He's kind of adorable like that. Maybe I've fallen that far.

3:50:59Linus Sebastian:Frick.

3:51:02Luke Lafreniere:Wow, you don't even swear anymore? What, does your mom watch the WAN show?

3:51:09Linus Sebastian:Trying to get better. It's not really working.

3:51:12Luke Lafreniere:Are the new RGB beanies thicker than the last batch? The last ones felt rather thin. Happy to buy another set if they are. I don't think they're thicker now. It's kind of the same.

3:51:22Linus Sebastian:Which, I mean, maybe that purchaser isn't happy about, but I am. I don't want overly thick ones. Buy two.

3:51:36Linus Sebastian:Set a fashion statement. Just staple them together.

3:51:40Luke Lafreniere:two toques timmy you could staple them to your head to Tommy then you'd never have to worry about them coming off it was better uh you should do one with a chin strap oh you should alternate

3:51:49Linus Sebastian:the colors yeah it's more interesting now they're double lined like some of our other products

3:51:58Luke Lafreniere:okay we're layering boys okay

3:52:04that totally works see now it looks ultra thick layered up baby just like it's like a double thick oreo yeah call it shrinkflation you have

3:52:18Luke Lafreniere:to buy two of the same product to get the quality that you wanted it's not quality it's quantity if we sell oreo cookies in one box and then the stuffing in another box and they're sold in one-to-one you now have to buy three boxes of cookies to get one cookie they should put me in charge of oreos assume that i eat oreos but okay this was a hypothetical if we took one team burger it's five dollars for the meat

3:52:51Luke Lafreniere:mr tech man all right how durable is the carabiner uh for the earphone pouch looks similar to the carabiner for the og backpack it's in between it's stronger than the carabiner on the og backpack but it is not a titanium thingamaboober but like be reasonable with it and it shouldn't break hey linus will you do the 30 day challenge with the new google books like you and your team did with the snap dragon laptops were released i feel for my use case a one would be useful for me Get a Neo. That was tough. Sorry. I'm thinking about it. I Ew, gross. Well, yeah, not because I want to smart guy.

3:53:35Linus Sebastian:Honestly, it wouldn't affect me at all. Is that a challenge? Maybe. I seriously doubt it would affect me.

3:53:42Luke Lafreniere:I mean, are we okay?

3:53:47Linus Sebastian:You walked right into this one I'm not gonna replace it for everything but I would replace my work laptop and I seriously doubt it would affect me if I had to go on the road and I had to do Wancho remotely maybe that gets annoying I'm actually use NVIDIA broadcast I'm actually a lot more interested in decks than I am in Google Books I um I forgot my laptop on

3:54:08Luke Lafreniere:Monday and I don't have a desktop anymore and I was like oh no I need to do work okay I'm gonna of finally set up decks because i've been meaning to do it forever and samsung thing immediately started finding some things that are really flipping stupid about it and some things that are really freaking awesome yeah about it uh so i made a bunch of notes um agent renzo says decks is weirdly functional and i hope you mean that both ways the way that it functions is weird and it's weird how functional it is i i definitely have some thoughts on that but then i ended up not spending the week on decks because i had that refurbished dell that i wanted to check out and also it was a lot faster yes i will take a 20 core cpu over whatever this is hey lld at linus is there an update about the adhd medication and its impact on badminton have you been able to pick the meds up if yes are you getting better is there any evidence i think better is subjective I don't consider medicated me better or worse.

3:55:13Luke Lafreniere:I consider it medicated me. As for its impact on badminton, I did pop a Ritalin for one of my training sessions, not this Monday, but the previous Monday. And I did not notice a difference. But sometimes, because I think anyone with ADHD probably knows that it's in flux, right? And sometimes the cycle can happen on an hourly basis. Sometimes it can happen on a weekly basis. And I didn't feel any worse. But so it's hard to tell, though, if it's because it didn't do anything for me or if it's because it was masking like a more scattered time. But I felt normal. It definitely confirmed once and for all, as though I didn't know, that I definitely have it.

3:56:05Luke Lafreniere:because isn't Ritalin supposed to give you like some kind of an effect if you do not have ADHD, like if you're neurotypical? You paint the house and run around in circles. And then if you have ADHD, you kind of like just have a nap. Right. Because your brain finally calms down. I did not get the like the high. And you don't from it. Did you get the nap? Did you feel chill? I actually just like didn't really feel anything. Yeah. Yeah. And you're not taking extended release. This is just pretty much like... Yeah, it's like a three hour dose kind of thing. It's basically... So just like normal, like off the shelf house mom snorting in the bathroom.

3:56:37Luke Lafreniere:Yeah, I told the doctor I just wanted it for when I play a badminton session and then I want it to go away when I'm done. Super, super normal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you don't drink coffee. Most ADHDers are haplessly, haplessly addicted to caffeine because it makes us sleepy and calms us down. If we don't have stimulation from that type of thing, brain don't work good. So, and I mean, the point of notification is to make you feel normal anyway. Yeah. Should try. So I'm going to try the other one, the not Ritalin one. I forget what it's called.

3:57:15Luke Lafreniere:Is it? Not at all. Five Ant? Maybe. I don't know. I forget. That's an extended release. I like super duper definitely forget. I mean, it's a minor detail, like a medication I'm putting in my body. Why would I remember it?

3:57:27Linus Sebastian:It's not that one. And I can't explain why I know.

3:57:33Oh, okay.

3:57:36Luke Lafreniere:Cool. Good chat. Experiment. Hey, LLD, Linus, any updates on your light switches? I am getting a new house and looking at investing in Inovelli switches. Are you still liking them? Any pros and cons? Yeah, lots of really good things about them. The millimeter wave sensing is super la cool. They definitely still have some firmware bugs that they're ironing out. I have found some ways of modifying the millimeter wave sensing range that appear to break the sensing. So like in theory, you can go from 600 centimeters this way to negative 600 centimeters that way. but if you set it to like 500 to 600 and you don't have a negative value it seems to get look confused um i have generally found that the zigbee ones are a little bit quicker to like adopt and configure and the way the interface shows up within home assistant if that's what you're using is not quite the same um i have found that is it i forget if it's the z wave one or the zigbee ones that have like better native support within the devices interface and home assistant um yeah it's the zigbee ones that just have it there you don't have to click through to something which is kind of nice but also the interface kind of sucks because when you scroll if you accidentally catch a slider it's like hypersensitive that seems to be more of a home assistant thing so you might end up wanting to use like the other menus like z wave js and mqtt whatever it is for the zigbee stuff anyway uh what else can i say i seem to have found a bug that they told me they might know.

3:59:18Luke Lafreniere:I was like just messaging them in like the middle of the night last night and I heard back from their CEO. I think I probably have one of the deployments with the most of these switches. So I'm finding some edge cases, I think, for them because I'm going through and doing a lot of configuration. Like I did some funky wonky stuff. They have a cool thing where they can send a burst of higher um i actually don't know exactly how led um dimming control works i mean obviously the voltage is the same pwm so yeah pwm whatever so whatever a higher power you can send like a higher power burst when you want it to go really dim to overcome the like offness so that it you can hit like five percent brightness whereas otherwise if you just set it to five percent it would take like a minute to turn on.

4:00:15Luke Lafreniere:So I found like I had a suggestion for them about how they could do that a little bit better so it doesn't like overshoot it when the light is warm already, flashbang you and then dim back down. So I think they're working on an implementation of that. And then I found a bug, I think, where my rec room lights got stuck off and then the back upper stairwell lights were stuck on and I ended up having to do like a full go to the breaker power cycle. I couldn't just re-interview the nodes and they said they think they know what I'm talking about and that should be fixable. So there's definitely some stuff that's not perfect about them right now.

4:00:49Luke Lafreniere:But what I will say about Inovelli is they've been like very responsive, very committed to fixing things, very transparent, very on it. So I have right now a very strong confidence that they're going to get it sorted out. And that's more important to me right now than the product necessarily being perfect right out of the gate. Yeah, fair enough. I don't think any of them are. So like... somewhat irrelevant. We went through it with Zoos for an upcoming video. Do you know about this? Is that why you're nodding? No, I'm just not surprised. We've got it working now, but the solution was infuriating.

4:01:26Luke Lafreniere:So you'll have to stay tuned for the Tech House video where we installed a leak sensor on the water mains valve. Sorry, a valve shut off and then a leak sensor set up for the Tech House. I should really do one for my place. It seems very smart it seems like a good idea yep i'm still looking for a good neutral this light switch do they offer like i think in a valley uh you can check that i i have the little like the little booklets that have all the different wiring things in it or i think they have it online too i'll just have a look but i think they have a neutral list solution but i don't think you can use a three-way I just need one my house is bad I just want stop smiling Luke stop it stop it

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4:02:21Luke Lafreniere:the big sigh last one last one let's get the hell out of here it's too horny hello from Estonia ordering a bunch for myself and colleagues this is a big order what is it 12 items transparent screwdriver flannel shirt scribe driver pixel heart northern lights t-shirt magnetic cable management cable ties magnetic cable management magnetic cable management magnetic cable management i've run out of air hello from estonia there were two more magnetic cable management magnetic cable management hello from estonia hey what's up Estonia ordering a bunch for myself and colleagues question for DLL what's something people have never understood about your job current or previous oh man a lot of people don't understand that my job is a job people actually seem to think that I like I go to work and I play with tech all day and it's um it's part of it and it's the part that I enjoy the most uh but so much of my job is meetings like it feels like every quarter or so the leadership team slash like vance slash dan gets tasked with like okay how do we want some for all make it so that linus can spend his time writing making videos tinkering with tech and doing the things that like really add value to our organization and how do we have them spend less time in meetings that's that's essentially what i was gonna say and then i always get drawn back in yeah i was gonna say

4:03:53Linus Sebastian:that it's like the the level of bureaucracy involved with doing stuff like this well that's

4:03:59Luke Lafreniere:the thing the level of bureaucracy involved in doing anything without me because i'll just come in bowl in a china shop and i'll say let's just do it that way and then i don't know whether it's credibility or the fact that i'm the shareholder no it's that one it's just like and it's not

4:04:15Linus Sebastian:because you don't have the other one it's that a lot of times there's like this stun lock because it's like no one can really make this call partially because linus might just come in and

4:04:25Luke Lafreniere:change it anyways in fairness to me a lot of the time when i come in and change it anyway it's because it like would be catastrophic if i didn't i'm not i'm not saying anything else i just yeah

4:04:38Linus Sebastian:but i think sometimes like i you know i describe what i do and people know it's attached to a youtube channel and i think they think there's more action and less meetings and then i show on my calendar and they're like oh so you just have a job yeah like yeah i was talking to somebody recently who was in software sales and they were talking about how they like they spend all their time in meetings and they sent me a screenshot of their calendar and i was like oh yeah it's basically the same as mine and they're like no i was like yeah and i sent the screenshot of mine they're like what i thought you did all this other stuff and i was like yeah it's mostly meetings

4:05:16Luke Lafreniere:once you reach a certain point life is basically meetings and i wish it wasn't and i've tried to

4:05:21Linus Sebastian:kill a lot of them and i i know you know i was gone i went to japan with my brother and then i went to taiwan for computex and then i stayed in taiwan for the bud and pal video and i was gone for a while and i came back and i was like the meetings that i was in that didn't like fall apart because i wasn't there i'm gonna largely try to exit and i did that for a few of them Nice. And it just got filled with new ones.

4:05:46Luke Lafreniere:I remember having a conversation with a colleague a little while back where basically they were like kind of resentful that the way that you like made more was by taking on more of a administrative role. And I was like, yeah, it's because nobody wants to do that. That's why it gets paid more.

4:06:09Linus Sebastian:It's because it sucks. It's like terrible.

4:06:12Luke Lafreniere:It's hazard pay.

4:06:14Linus Sebastian:Yeah, kinda. It's horrible. I was explaining to someone the other day about how like -

4:06:21Luke Lafreniere:It's like if I just needed someone to just like assemble widgets or whatever, it's like yeah, you're gonna have to compete against anyone who can assemble widgets and who is willing to. Whereas if you're willing to slog through the administrative bullshit - Then you have to assemble people. Then all of a sudden, guess what? It's worth more, baby. Yeah.

4:06:50Luke Lafreniere:scrappy dp says you have to pay people more to do stuff other people don't want to do

4:06:58Luke Lafreniere:fascinating no one's ever heard of that before i know i was explaining to someone the other day

4:07:03Linus Sebastian:uh i was in a call with two buddies and one of them was talking about how they were getting their first three-way call you might say yeah it's true uh this is true um one of them was talking about how they were a manager now and they were getting their first direct report they're getting their first employee it's not they i i word it that way because they don't like own the company but they're getting their first employee that reports to them yeah and the other guy in the call was like oh congrats man and i was like i'm so sorry and they were like what do you mean I was like, you know, at one person, you probably won't figure it out.

4:07:39Luke Lafreniere:It's like parenting, but they never grow up. But at a higher scale, you'll probably figure it out. And can sue you if you make a mistake. I joke.

4:07:46Linus Sebastian:True.

4:07:46Luke Lafreniere:I joke because actually there are some very rewarding elements of mentoring people. And as much as it's a cliche, I learn as much from my team member, my supposed subordinates as they do from me. Like it's a very mutually beneficial relationship. You gotta be ready for that.

4:08:07Linus Sebastian:That part is pretty real. You gotta be ready for that. But it's also a challenge. But no, it's like you have to care about this person's life and career development and everything else. And if you don't care about it, you're trash. Okay. That is not good.

4:08:23Luke Lafreniere:Avon Fox. This is actually great. Avon Fox says, and yet nurse wages, teacher wages, cleaner wages. Okay, I want to talk about teacher wages for a second here because I have a theory. I was going to go into teaching and I couldn't explain why. And I think that comment finally made me figure it out because it doesn't pay well. I know a ton of people that want to be teachers. Like utterly thankless in terms of like how parents treat you a lot of the time and how the entire system just treats you like an expendable cog. It's, it's getting more difficult to deal with modern kids. And this is like, it's going to sound like, like boomer old man yells at cloud.

4:09:04Luke Lafreniere:I get that. But also, no, it's definitely a thing. But there's this constant like influx of new people into the career. And I think I just like finally figured it out. And it's the reason that I wanted to do it. It's because from the moment you turn five years old until the moment you are expected to decide what to do with your life, the only thing you've ever done all day, every day, is go to school. And so it's just like, the influential people in your life who made you who you are were your teachers. They were your role models.

4:09:43Linus Sebastian:And that might influence you in both directions. Maybe you had a terrible teacher and you're like, I want to be not that for some kids. Or maybe you had great teachers and you're like, I want to be that for some kids.

4:09:51Luke Lafreniere:So why do teachers get dunked on? Because there's constant pressure from people who have no idea what else to do with their life other than stay in school and be teachers. And so they can just treat them like the replaceable cogs that I guess they are because of how replaceable they are. And it's, it's, uh, that's, that's sucky. And we should, we should treat teachers.

4:10:10Linus Sebastian:Good teachers are mind-blowingly valuable.

4:10:12Luke Lafreniere:They're so, they're like the best investment a society can like make. Yeah. And, but we've kind of lost, I feel like we've lost the plot. There's still some really dedicated people who are just really incredible. Like we've encountered them with my kids going through uh both uh both different systems and there's people who just still care so so so so so much um but we shouldn't rely on that we should make it a rewarding career monetarily as well and i mean yeah same same goes man like health care workers man what a what a job what a job that you would have no reason to get into if you didn't actually care so maybe we could just also give the money that would be cool yeah now we get ai teacher says kurositsuna well on that note um i've had enough see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye

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