The Truth About Seed Oils & Gut Health vs Genetics

29:22When did making plans get this complicated? It's time to streamline with WhatsApp, the secure messaging app that brings the whole group together. Use polls to settle dinner plans, send event invites and pin messages so no one forgets mom's 60th, And never miss a meme or milestone, all protected with end-to-end encryption. It's time for WhatsApp. Message privately with everyone. Learn more at whatsapp.com. We're getting into what's trending in wellness. And I'm going to say this is going to be our chunkiest take on trends yet. So when we're talking about spinach and kale, I just want to preface the fact that we're not just talking about this one trend.

30:01What we want to talk about today is the spread of misinformation. and what makes it therefore so confusing for us all to know how to make healthy habits and what we should change what we should incorporate what we shouldn't and these are just a couple of videos that we've pulled out as i think the crux or real summaries of where the issues lie and a lot of the spinach one again relates to oxalates which you guys have probably seen again things people talking about so we're just going to play a clip of it so you get a sense of what we're talking about And this is from an account where it's had about 33 ,000 likes.

30:37So loads of that have like millions of views. The image is like of a bodybuilding guy at the start just to paint the picture. But there's a scientist being interviewed on this podcast. Okay, here we go. Which by the way, kale and spinach are not healthy for you at all. They're loaded with anti-nutrients, especially spinach. Spinach is probably the worst vegetable that most people eat when they're eating a healthy diet. Spinach has loaded with oxalates, creates inflammation in your gut. People juice spinach like you want to stay away from spinach. It's one of the worst things you can consume. And almonds as well, by the way.

31:05Almonds are loaded with oxalates. It's something that I never eat. Almonds, almond milk, almond flour, like it'll create... Almond butter, I'm assuming. Almond butter, yeah. Yeah, I would stay away from too much of that. What do you even say? Sometimes it's the claims about inflammation that they make in the gut and these really drastic things. And they say it so confidently. And they say, I would never consume it. So let's delve into what oxalates actually are, everyone. So it comes from something called oxalic acid. And this is used interchangeably in the scientific community. They'll either say an oxalate or this acid word.

31:38So it's basically an organic compound. And it's found in loads of plants. I've discussed before the protective properties that plants have, the powerful, amazing things. And, you know, you get this in leafy greens, this compound, vegetables, fruits, even cocoa, you know, nuts, seeds. It's not just spinach. So for him to just point out almonds and spinach is kind of crazy. but this is often discussed because spinach is people label spinach as the leafy green that's a source of calcium and the problem you've got is it's not actually one of the best sources of calcium out there because it's got oxalates and it prevents a lot of the calcium from being absorbed by the body but that doesn't mean spinach causes inflammation in your gut and it doesn't mean spinach is bad for you it can still contains lots of other beneficial vitamins and minerals so for most of us it's just not even a concern Ella and we'd only say if you've got an underlying problem like you're working with one of our gastro dietitians in the clinic or you've got a chronic illness something that where you are struggling to absorb foods or you are looking actively at increasing your calcium intake and I'm doing a diet that's high in calcium I probably wouldn't include spinach as one of those items of foods but it is most definitely not going to kill you.

32:49I just can't get over that bit. And oxalates aren't inherently bad. No, no. And your body can produce oxalate on its own or obtain it from food anyway. So, you know, vitamin C is converted to oxalate when it's metabolized. So you can't say don't eat these foods. You know, remember calcium you also get in other areas, guys. Oranges contain calcium, for instance, things you wouldn't think about. But once consumed, to explain, oxalate binds to different minerals. And then it forms compounds like calcium oxalate or iron oxalate if it binds to iron. And this most commonly occurs in our colon. So I think that's why he said it causes inflammation in the gut.

33:30It doesn't. It's just where this process occurs. And then it can also take place in the kidneys and other parts of the, you know, urinary tract. And for some people, if they have a really, really high diet in oxalates, then it can be linked towards kidney stones. But I'm being honest here. This is really, really, really, really rare. They're taking things out of proportion. They take these really rare conditions and foods and blow it out of proportion just to create clickbait clips. I wonder if these people sell something on the side. You know, often they sell a supplement themselves and they demonize something to say they've got the solution.

34:09But the misinformation is wild. So there is just to clarify for people listening, there is nothing dangerous about eating oxalates. Nothing at all. Nothing unless you have a Crohn's or an underlying gut health condition where you need to be aware of oxalates. But it's not dangerous to eat it. It's just it's not going to help with your calcium. That's it. All your own. Honestly, I may sound a bit blunt. I'm really sorry, everybody. I really appreciate that this is really scary when you see headlines like this. This sort of thing, in my opinion, should be banned from social media and it has to be regulated.

34:44It's insane. It just becomes impossible for people. And I was reading all the comments on these videos. It becomes impossible for people to understand what to do. Because everywhere you look, you're being told this is terrible for you. This is terrible for you. This is terrible for you. It's like slushy is bad for you, but so spinach. And so where are you meant to find this middle ground? And it's so overwhelming. And then we go on to the fact that this very well-known doctor was on a big US show and said, word for word, two tablespoons of table sugar is better for you than two slices of whole wheat bread.

35:17my reaction is ella's saying this like my head's in my hands because how can you go out there and tell people on a whole to have that two tablespoons of sugar cane sugar is better for you than bread it provides you no nutrients no nutrition just going to give you a load of tooth decay and probably a really dodgy tummy if you just eat raw two tablespoons of sugar it's going to cause your blood sugar to go absolutely haywire and there is nothing wrong cane sugar is not bad either guys It's great in cakes, you know, put it in different ingredients. But to say it's better than a whole wheat bread that contains fiber, that contains nutrition.

35:51And yes, there's a difference, like I discuss in my next book, The Unprocessed Plate, a lot with bread as an example of a good UPF for so many people. It has additives in it to extend its shelf life. So for some people out there on a real budget that are really struggling, that don't have a fridge at home, if they've got a slice of whole wheat bread that can sit in their kitchen and not go off, and that's providing them with food so they're not starving, that is a wonderful thing and it still contains fibre. For those of you that are interested in taking those extra additives out and you just want a nice fibre-rich bread and you can afford that, it's a wonderful source of fibre.

36:26And bread also contains protein and people don't realise that two slices of bread can contain just as much as a protein biomarketed of protein. So to me, these types of phrases are just deeply, deeply saddening to hear. I think the other thing about bread, about pasta, rice, etc. is they're great carriers. And so yes, the bread on its own may not be as nutritious as some other things, although as you said, it's still got fibre, etc. But again, it's such a great topper. You can put avocado, you can put hummus, you can put anything, you can make it into a sandwich, pack it with all sorts of things, which then give you lots of nutrition.

37:05Same with pasta, etc, etc. etc and I just think it's just not a very constructive way to think about the world. It's a really privileged almost uneducated thing to say from a doctor which is really concerning because you know when you've got no time I'm going to go home tonight I haven't prepped any food the fridge is empty the shop's coming late tonight I'm going to get some slices of bread out probably do scrambled eggs or avocado or baked beans whatever it is on toast it's quick and easy and it's a one-off. It's not my everyday item for the kids. But that's still a nutritious meal. Yeah, and it's fine if it is because it contains protein, carbs, vitamins, minerals.

37:42And this is just the real epitome of misinformation online. And I think the epitome of all of that is this clip about water being bad for you. I also believe water is a scam. Water is a solvent, so it's dissolving your body. The fact that people say it's hydrating your cells is crap. It's not a carbohydrate. It's not a fat. It's not a protein. literally a solvent you put any type of material in water it dissolves it that's what it's doing to your body and same thing with waterway and you're drinking all this water and bloating there's actually no benefit to it if you want to hydrate you have fats you have juices you have something that your cells can actually utilize we're not picking like random niche things that one person has said and it's this like fully left field you know need to know kind of conversation this isn't kind of conspiracy well it sort of is conspiracy theory but in the sense of this isn't a kind of niche these because of social media are now reaching tens of millions of people and I think that's why we wanted to talk about it today because that's the problem is that you've got tens of millions of people seeing that bread is going to kill you water is going to kill you spinach will kill you almonds will kill you carrots might kill you lectins will kill you this is all going to kill you then on the other hand as i said you've got this kind of world of upfs of slushies etc and you're just left and i would love to hear just saying proteins the cure to everything exactly and i want to hear what our audience think because to me this is the crux of the issue where it's the world of health and wellness has become this kind of clickbait wild west which is almost impossible to navigate to have standout to have cut through to have an audience and make that your job now it feels like you've got to be pretty out there yeah because in the olden days you didn't have social media or you didn't have a chance to voice your conspiracy theories and now you do so anyone can get access to them but early on in our careers as well and as kind of health and wellness started to to pick up it was the early days of social media and you didn't need to be really really really really left field for people to listen to it talking about lentils and carrots and chickpeas and kind of nutritious food or exercise etc you didn't have to get your body out you didn't have to do any of those things you didn't need that for cut through you needed to be useful and you needed to help people to some extent not to be kind of too that's what it was sacrimonious but it is it was just that it was quite simple and now to get cut through because it's such a saturated space with so many people in it where the way the algorithms work is this kind of clickbait effect essentially it feels like you've got to make claims like this for tens of millions of people to see it and therefore and I want to ask you about this a lot of nutritionists dietitians doctors choose now not to be registered because that allows you to be able to make some other claims to get a bit more cut through and will you just give our audience before we get into misinformation the 101 on that because I think it is really important in understanding who you're listening to as well it's a real sore spot for me as Ella knows and I've discussed it quite a bit if anyone follows the Retrition channels because morally if you go into healthcare if you become a doctor there's that phrase trust a doctor you know if you become a nutritionist a dietitian in the UK anyway you have a responsibility to abide by a code of conduct and that's ethics and we've got a whole list of things that you can and can't say for instance when I launched Retrition Plus my supplement brand I wasn't allowed to have a picture of me holding my own product because that shows bias and I have to always list in press pieces like other examples two or three so I'm not showing that I prefer one over another in certain scenarios there's so much to consider for doctors this is even more important because they are the first point of call when anyone needs something you should go to your GP and they have a responsibility in society to uphold these guidelines and the problem now with social media is that I think money talks well I think everyone knows money talks and I'm not scared to say I'm owning this opinion I see people who are immensely successful who still can call themselves a doctor still can call themselves a nutritionist and not be regulated by the GMC or by the Association for Nutrition dietitians eventually can get pulled down because their title's protected but they can still call themselves a nutritionist because that's not protected yet which is what We're still waiting to hear back from the Privy Council on that kind of side case that we've got in the UK at the moment to get the title nutritionist protected.

42:18But it means these people can sell things to you and have nobody hold them responsible. They can say whatever they want. They can say these outlandish things about two tablespoons of sugar is better than bread. Because if you're not choosing to be registered, you're not paying to be part of a community. I pay voluntary every year to be registered. I get nothing back but a slap on the wrist if I do something wrong. But that's how I feel morally. it's the right thing to do it's there to protect the public and so many now are not choosing to do that because the money they get online is bigger than them actually doctoring or actually being a nutritionist it's absolutely fascinating it's the kind of thing that i think you wouldn't know unless you exist in this industry um yeah but i don't know if it helps and i'm not saying everyone's doing that but i don't think the kind of collective muddiness of the water helps this misinformation but you've got a voice note for us about why this spread of misinformation has become so rife.

43:13I do. Now, my friend Idris, Dr. Ids, you may know him online. He does a lot of those debunking videos online that I think are really difficult to approach or do because you actively have to call someone out. It's quite an aggressive form, but effective of debunking videos. And he's very good at it. It's called Dr. Ids. And he discusses why C-dolls, let's use that as an example. There's so much misinformation about seed oils, for instance? So I think there are several reasons why the hate on seed oils is at an all-time high. Firstly, the rise in popularity of diet fads like animal-based or carnivore diets likely plays a role.

43:47Proponents of these dietary patterns often fall victim to many logical fallacies like the appeal to nature fallacy, which is the idea that just because something is natural, therefore it's better for you. And if something is artificial, therefore it's harmful, right? And of course, seed oils aren't found in nature. You have to process the seed so they automatically think it's harmful. Secondly the rise in chemophobia especially in the post you know covid era has likely played a part too. The fact that certain chemicals are used in the manufacturing process of seed oils can sound scary to some people especially when they don't understand these processes and their function.

44:20So big sounding chemicals you know also plays a role into the anti-seed oil movement probably. Another factor is probably the general distrust in science overall. So despite the dozens of controlled human studies independently conducted, which show that seed oils are in fact healthy for a variety of blood markers, you know, blood lipids, liver fat, insulin resistance, inflammatory biomarkers, and so on, it's that often these people won't even care, right? Which means that no matter what evidence you bring to them, they'll still fall back on these very superficial arguments like the logical fallacies like the appeal to nature fallacy or just chemophobia in general or the composition fallacy or the you know false equivalence so those are probably the main reasons why the anti-cedor movement has garnered so much attention i think he really summed that up so so so well and i think it's it's probably the biggest example of the spread of misinformation and as we're saying how difficult it is to navigate the landscape and again we'd just be so curious to hear from you guys on that on that i was speaking to someone that owns a huge company in the US last night and they're having to reformulate all their products from seed oils in the States.

45:32Yeah. Because of the misinformation on seed oils, they're having to reformulate everything. Yeah, it's absolutely fascinating. It really, really is. And I think the important thing is it's almost for everyone just like find the middle ground. Like we just need to have this more kind of calm, less stressed, less clickbaity, sensationalist viewpoint. it's so reductive and kind of silly in a way to say like go back to the way your grandparents say but there is so much in that in when it all gets confusing just go back to basics i know absolutely a hundred percent just try and eat a nice balanced meal guys i'm a bit lost for words on this episode i feel like this episode these trends i yeah i'm a bit lost for words as well it's but as i said for me the key thing here is it highlights this huge dichotomy which was my whole reason why i called you about this show and it's my kind of big passion in life because i feel that it's very difficult to help people change the way that they eat in the world today because of this extraordinary split where on the one hand there's this huge proliferation of foods that are very very bad for us slushies in today's episode where it's become normal where you're odd for being at a trampoline park or a birthday party and not wanting your young child to drink something like that left out and so hard or you don't want them to have the ham in the ham and cheese sandwich even though we know it's a carcinogen not saying you can't have every now and again but every single day and then on the other hand you have this demonization this clickbait this algorithm driving kind of insanity where the health and wellness world has become so extreme and it's no longer okay to just talk about crispy lentils or chocolate covered walnuts all these easy things i couldn't even talk about protein because then people think you're saying it's not important but it is important we know this it's just not the most important or singularly important thing it's very emotive guys food and wellness because it affects us all is emotive it is but i hope this is like a weekly reminder to find that middle ground and not to get too bogged down in everything you're seeing reading be inspired to exercise all those examples be inspired to make those changes but don't be overwhelmed

47:44The big trend I want to talk about is the hot girl walk. Sorry, I can't take it seriously when you say it. Yes. I know. I can't take myself seriously when I say it either. And it's funny because I took myself on a hot girl walk yesterday. And I was so embarrassed to be like, so I just want to caveat. I don't see myself as a hot girl. I'm not trying to define myself as a hot girl. No, but you are. Do you know what? Let's embrace this. What did you say that Sam Greed says? Talk to yourself kindly. Torch yourself, exactly, yeah. Emma Green, who I referenced the other day, who's this amazing female founder who says she doesn't get imposter syndrome, which I really look up to her.

48:19I do. And I can't say I'm a hot girl. But I want to talk about it because I guess it traps into what we were just saying about prioritizing sleep, for example, and these simple habits, which I know we're both so passionate about in terms of moving wellness from complicated, expensive things to these simple day-to-day things that feel more approachable to all of us. And the hot girl walk is one of them. So we see a lot of mad things in terms of trends. This was a great one for me. You guys might have heard about it. It was a big, big trend last year. We're kind of a few months late to the party, but I still wanted to talk about it.

48:49It's had over 600 million views on TikTok, the hot girl walk. But actually, it's not about looking hot, which just have to clarify that. It's actually about getting outside, moving your body and boosting your mood in a very gentle, feel good way. So the term was coined by a TikTok content creator called Mia. Her handle's exactly like the other girls, which I also like, as we were saying, it's like when you get your 10 a.m. dip, probably the same as everyone else. We're all going through the same things. And she started this back in 2021. And the concept is super simple. You go for, she was saying a four mile walk.

49:21That may or may not be plausible for you, but you get outside, go for an intentional walk. But while you're walking, pop on inspirational podcast. Hello, the wellness scoop. Or a playlist that lifts you up. Something that just makes you feel really positive. It'd be a bit of Taylor Swift for me. You use that time to just clear your head, set intentions and feel good in yourself. I think the hot girl element was inspired by the Megan Thee Stallion song Hot Girl Summer. But it's just about feeling your best, which I love. A hot girl summer, that's what I meant earlier. That's what everyone's talking about.

49:51A hot girl summer. Exactly. So I think the hot girl walk comes from the hot girl summer. And do you know what? I love this. I love it as a trend. It's more of an inspo for me because I can't just leave the house and walk when I want. You know, you can't do it when you've got children. You can't do it when you've got work deadlines. but it is an incentive to get up on a lunch break or when you're dropping or walk them to school at least an extra five minutes I'm going to incorporate hot girl walking into my life more it's amazing yesterday I had a back-to-back day from nine till six like and I had a 20 minute break from 10 past two to half past two and someone said Ella can you just do this one thing and I politely said actually is it urgent because I've got time tomorrow can I do it tomorrow I just want to get outside.

50:33And I could have so easily stayed at my desk, had lots and lots of things to do. And I went outside for 20 minutes, very short period of time. I listened to half of my favorite pop culture podcast. And it just felt so good. And as I said, it's so simple. Didn't have time to do a full exercise yesterday. Didn't have lots of time to cook, but I did have 20 minutes. And I felt so much better for it. And I think, again, it just comes back to this idea that we You think we have to do all these complicated things to get health benefits. But walking is proven to support your heart health, lower blood pressure, reduce your risk of type 2 diabetes.

51:08Joint health as well. Exactly. Naturally boost your energy. And bone mineral density either. You know, if we talk about women not getting enough, you know, we don't lift weights, at least if you're pounding the ground. Exactly. Amazing. Lower stress and anxiety. New one enhances creativity, which I didn't know because it's such a great way to clear your mind. and if you go for a little walk after a meal it can help balance your blood sugar after it which is so good for your digestion but also helping be that like 4 p.m afternoon slump as well so just a reminder you don't need to run a marathon you don't need to go to Barry's boot camp etc etc to get health benefits of moving your body let's hot girl walk listen to the wellness school while you do it and if you do send us a pic because we'd love to hear how you're getting on it segues us on beautifully to our listener question today which I thought was a really really important question and one that I hope is really helpful this listener said I wanted to say yours and Rhiannon's podcast is my favorite part of the week we love to hear that I have learned so much and it really helps me evaluate the advice you see online the advice there is in inverted commas my eating is a lot better since listening to you both I have some nerves about trying out your recipes I love the look of them and have all the books but I'm nervous to try them as typically nutritious meals tend to incorporate things like nuts and seeds, which I do eat as a snack, more recently walnuts, but they're quite high in calories.

52:27How do you eat these delicious meals without gaining weight? I know there's something to be said for mindful eating here, but I was wondering if this is something that could be addressed in a podcast at some point, please. How do you change this mindset? I know eating these meals will do me the world of good, but it's a block I have and I want to get over. It is understandable. Weight loss obviously is difficult. just to let everyone know, you know, it's never a linear line. And something I always say in clinic is that if you are looking at weight loss, first of all, that is okay. That also seems a bit aboot for people saying they want to lose weight because it is okay to embrace all body sizes and shapes, but it's also okay to want to do something for you.

53:02So let's just put that out there as well. It's never a straight line weight loss. It never just goes down once you start looking at it. It will plateau and you'll go through periods where it's where you need support or it's very difficult. Now, nuts and seeds, let's take this as an example, they are high in calories and they're high in fat, but the good type of fat. But I would say if you had a snack of walnuts that afternoon, it's probably not a good idea to make a meal with walnuts in as well that day. You've had the walnuts. This is when diversity comes in. This is when you need to pick a different meal off that array of meals.

53:34And not all meals contain nuts and seeds. You know, there are so many delicious plant meals. I think the big fear comes from seeing these people do these what I eat in a day videos as well if they're plant-based or you know sometimes they don't do that and they're making it up which is why I've got a big thing about what I eat in a day videos there's no way and I can tell there's no way someone is eating exactly what they're sharing a lot of the time you just know that the calorie content is too high and they're gourmet meals they're cooking up fresh three times a day as Ella and I have both said it just doesn't happen look at those star meals I call them star meals your hero meal of the day the one that you have time the one that you can embrace to get the diversity in i love star meals i haven't heard about that it's a really nice way of thinking about it yeah i just used to do it in clinic all the time i'd be like look what day of the week can you do a hero or star meal like when when can that happen for you what are we going to make and then do like three portions and put it in a lunch box you know freeze it for the rest of the week but plants are actually low in calories and i think the fear comes from carbohydrates i think and people don't realize they're actually really low in calories like a big place a plate of rice or obviously portions are different for everyone take a large portion like a big cup of your hand of rice or pasta and that's your portion of carbohydrates two outstretched hands of vegetables chuck that on the plate with it the proteins you can get from plants like pulses and beans they are very low in calorie and very high in fiber so where you see a lot of people living in this way consuming plant-based diets like hella and i do, the calories actually are lower than you think.

55:06It's your eyes are seeing the portion. The calories come from the fats you add to these plant-based meals a lot of the time. They come from the avocados, the nuts, the seeds. So I would just say be sensible about looking at your day rather than the individual meal. If you know a meal is going to have, this comes with education, it comes with practice. Like if I knew I'd had a whole avocado, I probably wouldn't eat it another meal that day. I'd actively not consume that and I would choose something different. but genetics count activity levels count your age counts are you menopausal are you not what is going on with stress levels stress is huge and then mixing it up so try not to compare yourself would be the biggest bit of advice and I hope that's been helpful in terms of education when it comes to looking at your unique requirements and seeing these people creating these recipes online because it's great to use for inspiration but you have to apply it in a way that works for you totally and I think the other thing that's worth saying is that these foods tend to be higher in fiber as well which does kind of simply put just going to keep you more full I need to drink more water Ella they need to drink more water if they cook these meals as well explain that a little bit for us sorry I just came out with that I looked at Ella I was like don't forget the water um when you consume more carbohydrates and fiber you need more water to help your body process those, to digest that.

56:30So to each molecule of carb, you attract three or four molecules of water, for instance, if you're looking at it on a molecular level. So you just need to increase your water when you increase your fiber intake and build that up slowly or you're really going to notice your gut going, ah, help me, I'm suddenly eating what these what I eat in a day girls are doing and it's not working for me. Do it slow. Do it slow, yeah. But the fiber will probably reduce your appetite at other moments in the day because you will be really, really full, which is great. And it's going to give you that long lasting energy.

57:01So you're not going to suddenly be like, I'm starving and feel hangry. So this isn't sexy, guys. But before we close the show, there was a study. I think it was 2008 or nine, long, long time ago. But it showed that stool weight really matters. So the heavier your poo, essentially, from all the fiber, the healthier you are. And in countries around the world where they don't live in westernized societies, but they eat a lot of things like tubulars and i think it's the tribe that was studied the hadsa tribe or hudsa tribe were the one at the time and they're studied all the time all the time because they're one of those tribes that live in an environment that's not corrupted by everything we have around us now and yeah they're basically the larger and heavier your poo just to put it out there the healthier you are because of the amount of fiber and they eat way more than 30 grams of fiber a day that we are aiming for and not hitting here yeah it's such good advice i think the other thing to go back is the closing thought on our episode it's our first ever episode where we had Giles Yeo to reference him again talking about the myth of calories and why calories aren't all created equal I think there is also something a lot to be said instead of thinking how many calories are in that meal to think how much nutrition is in that meal thousand percent I wish I hadn't said calories explaining that guys I just know it's what you know I like to call it energy just think of food as energy but it's not we can't possibly calculate it a hundred percent And again, not to be too kind of wishy-washy or reductive to close it, but I think there's something so inherently positive about thinking about recipe or thinking about that star meal.

58:27You know, maybe the one meal a day that you can put a little bit more time and effort into and thinking like, what's going to make me feel great here? Enjoy it. Exactly. Oh, the joy from food. Like when you actually have time to enjoy a meal, it's such a rare opportunity in today's society. Yeah. So enjoy it and think about what it's doing for you versus breaking it down into calories. love love love love thank you so much for tuning in honestly we love reading your feedback your comments and these bonus scoop episodes have been pulled together by subjects you have asked for so thank you we want to tailor the show around you because we would not be here without you so all your comments on spotify on apple have helped bring this together and tune in monday for another fantastic bonus scoop exactly keep those questions reviews comments queries coming because we are spending a lot of time going through them all finding the wellness scoop making it as good as it can be for you guys.

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