Session 103: Banks

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0:24Surprise, pussies! Today we have on one of my favorite artists, Banks. She has made some of my favorite songs of all time, including Crowded Places, which is used in the penultimate episode of Girls. It is one of my favorite needle drops of all time and I get to talk to her about that and she is so lovely. So I'm so excited she got to be on. What you are seeing behind me is decorations for next week's episode. It is my birthday week soon. But if you guys don't know Banks, I'm excited for you guys to get to know her more. She has, she's so talented and has really just such a vast, incredible discography.

0:59She's awesome and I'm really glad she was able to come on the show. and yeah the season is about to end next week is the penultimate episode of Therapist after this we have two episodes left of the season and then we're done for this season so yeah I just wanted to say thank you guys for everything literally everything like you have changed my life I thought season one was insane and this season was just even like out of a dream I could never even imagine I'll give you a more sappy um feel during the season finale where I will get emotional about the end of this season but just know that in the seasons in the next season we're gonna be bigger and better and I'm really really excited to submit tell me what's wrongs go to past that puss.com and click tell me what's wrong leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy love you pussies hi pussies welcome back to therapist today we have on a dear friend and incredibly talented singer banks hello i the last time i saw you we got dinner yeah we did and you've been doing so much since i last saw you yeah i have released i think my yeah released an album toured how was yeah so great yeah um did my american tour and then toured opened for lana del rey how was lana so good she's just the best do you guys like hang out Yeah, she's the sweetest, coolest, most talented.

2:27Have you known her for a while? No, that was the first time I met her. And she just reached out? Yeah, she's just, I mean, yeah, it just happened. It was very kind of last minute within a few weeks, and we were just like, let's do it. That's so fun. Yeah, it was awesome. Oh, my God. I fucking, were you able to see the show? You obviously saw the show after. Yeah, of course. Yeah, it was amazing. she's got the most gorgeous set and like it looked like a movie is she still on tour now how many dates do you do for her I did three I did Glasgow Dublin and Liverpool I was just saying I went to Seattle you're telling me you live in Seattle I love it there I do too it's great were you born there I grew up in LA I moved there like two years ago and what did you move there for my fiance is from there right right and I just needed yeah I just wanted a little bit of a change I grew up here and lived here my whole life in LA and then I was gonna move to London and then my career kind of took off and I started touring and so I was kind of like craving a really familiar place in between tours and yeah so I never ended up moving but then decided to you know I think Seattle is great.

3:47It's like very calming. It's like my life is so crazy. It's nice to have a home base that's like outside of the entertainment business and just very chill. Yeah. People there are so lovely too. When we went for my show, it was like the best crowd. We got really good food in Seattle. We went fishing. Nice. Yeah. Do you guys ever go fishing? No, but I actually, Drew, my fiance just got me fly, no, fly fishing. Is that where you need like the... Yeah, I think fly fishing. He got me gear. He wants to take me, so. What is fly fishing? I think it's like where you fish, but you like stand in the water.

4:25What? With this, what are they called? Do you know what I'm talking about? Kind of. Does your fiance fish? I mean, he has. He's not like a fisherman. Right, but that's like a Seattle thing. Yeah, I mean, it's like surrounded by water. Right. You know, people are on boats all the time. They're fishing all the time. They're hiking all the time. Lots of nature. Do you like hiking? Yeah, love it. Yeah. Love it. Do you? No, I hate hiking. You do? Yeah, I think it's so boring. Yeah. I can't get involved and then I'm like sweaty and it's hot out. Yeah, okay. Well, you like doing yoga and stuff, right?

4:58Yeah, enough. Like Pilates. Okay, cool. Yeah. Cool. So when, you know what song of yours I was listening to the other day? What? It's my favorite crowded places. Yeah. I love that song. Thank you. Did Lena reach out to you directly to use that in Girls or? Yeah, she did. And it was like, I'm, girls is like all time favorite. Yeah, same. You know, it's just so iconic. And the show is just, I could, it never gets old. Yeah, it ages so well too. It was such an honor to have a song in the finale of the entire show. So yeah, it was unreal. Yeah. Such a good song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. Love that song.

5:40How is the wedding planning coming along? It's good. Wedding planning is good. It's very chill. It's a very small wedding. What does he do again? He's a lacrosse player. Right, right. Well, he actually retired. He got a lot of concussions and he had to put up the players hat, but now he coaches the Maryland team. Oh, that's awesome. We got around to planning it, but yeah, it's pretty much just going to be a big fun party. I'm so excited for you. Where are you going to do it? It's in Seattle. The best, obviously. How'd you guys meet again? this is actually a crazy story well I don't know if this part's crazy but then when I actually hung out with him for the first time it's kind of crazy but he slid in my dms he was like how long are you in Seattle for and I was like um just in and out you know just on tour and then he was like oh bummer like I wanted to take you for a drink and I was like what like that was the most forward most confident right I mean especially because I just feel like guys are generally intimidated right by you know a successful woman yeah so I was very intrigued by that yeah you can come backstage and say hi after the show um but yeah unfortunately just in and out was he going to the show yeah he was going to the show okay cool so uh he came to the show and then that night I forgot where I was playing but I told my band I was like you guys this really hot rugby player is coming tomorrow and they're like oh sick and then when they met him they're like he doesn't play rugby you're an idiot and I was like what I thought he played rugby yeah no um but yeah he was a sweetheart and then we just like kind of kept in touch and then um I went on tour in Europe and then that you know kept in touch but it's hard when you're touring and then COVID happened and so we like kind of got you know to know each other really well over COVID and then finally when he could come visit me um I had just gotten my COVID shot and so he picked me up from when I got the shot and I was like I don't want to drive I feel sick right you drive we were driving he saw salt straw whatever he's like I want ice cream and I was like let's stop for ice cream cool so parked in the parking lot he was driving I thought he had the keys it's my car he thought I had the keys right we go and get ice cream we're like he's like there's actually a video of him um on his instagram like eating ice cream and i'm like it's from this night and i was like is it good and he's like oh it's so good and then two minutes later we get to the car and he's like your car's not here so we call the cops we have to call my mom to come she meets my mom like on this first date essentially i had an audi and they i guess have like trackers in them yeah so car stolen got home crazy night whatever next morning get a call from the police station they're like we found your car great where is it they're like well it was in a high-speed chase what a girl stole it we had to throw down those spike strip things that like pop all your tires it was a high-speed chase it's in the junkyard or whatever like here's where you can go get it but we we got your car uh-huh we call an uber because i don't have a car get in the uber on the way to the junkyard to pick my car up car breaks down on the freeway the uber does so we're on the freeway so we see these cops driving by we're like flagging him down like the cops pull over we're in this uber the car broke down can you help us we're my car car got stolen we're going to pick up my car that they found so we get in the cop car this is isn't this insane yeah we say it he drives us off the freeway we can't just like drive you to your destination like we're like we're like in the back of the cop car with metal whatever up and we were just what is happening um so they drop us off right off the freeway we have to call another uber finally get to the junkyard we finally like go to my car all the part uh the tires are popped and we open it and there's an open large jar of nutella in the in the passenger seat driver's seat yeah like in like the cup cup holder yeah and all this like matching really cute light blue suitcases oh who is this girl that got tackled she was like stealing a car like spooning nutella in her mouth i know she stole your car but she sounds awesome i know so we have to call a tow truck to tow us we get in like the car with the tow truck driver man we're like sitting with him in the front while like my broken car is like behind us we have to go to this get all the new tires and we end up going throwing out all this girl's luggage and It was the wildest few days ever.

10:15And that was like essentially our first date. Honestly, that is the craziest first date story I've ever heard. Yeah. Kind of like a week. Like it's kind of sweet. No, it's the best. Yeah. Now you're engaged. Now we're engaged. How did he propose? He took me to a cherry blossom. Cute. A bunch of cherry blossoms everywhere. And it was really cute. Yeah. Is Seattle have cherry blossoms? Yeah. So beautiful. How did I not know that? Yeah. I guess I don't know anything about Seattle really. Except for the fact that I went fishing that once. They had a good crowd. And you, they had a good crowd. Yeah.

10:57So yeah, it was really cute. He's, he's a really good person. I'm so happy for you. That's amazing. How's dating for you? I remember at dinner. I do remember. I remember. And you, we, you were also talking about wanting to be a pop star. Yes. And how you've not had a boyfriend. Right. And so I was like, we need to write a song about this. I know. Yeah. And then that was, I think I saw you during my major weed era. I was, did I talk about smoking all the time then? I'm not sure. That entire time period of my life is a haze. Tight. Like, I don't know what happened. I don't know when we got, when did we get dinner?

11:30How long ago was that? It was before my album came out. Like two years ago? No, it was like a year ago maybe. that doesn't feel right i think it was a year and a half ago or two years ago like that isn't that crazy yeah and we went to poche i think that was the first time i'd ever been there really yeah so good you're so cute that was so fun but yeah i wanted to um wait how are there updates with the boyfriend stuff yeah like no updates i think i'm not ready for a relationship okay i don't know when i will be but but we aren't yet and that's okay well i just think it would be too selfish of me to say that I am is what I've learned because I cannot I don't think I can give myself to someone like that okay well it's good you know that right like important I don't think I can or maybe I just haven't found the right person yeah but like I'm so I'm doing shit all the time and I'm always trapped or I haven't been home because of tour yeah how's tour it was cool did you do you have a bus when you tour yeah yeah I love I loved I loved meeting people yeah that was my favorite part of the whole tour was meeting everyone because they they can tell when I like am not feeling too good and like some I don't know sometimes I was just like it was hard like living out of a suitcase I don't like living out of a suitcase to you yeah well when I first started touring I was like how do people do this it's so overwhelming and like I'm such a creature of routine and so I got very it's just yeah it's a lot it's exhausting it's so hard on your body it's so hard on your body my body was like tired yeah and it yeah it's like a different type of fatigue too it's not just like it's a different type of fatigue because you have to give 110 percent yeah and it's just you don't really I mean I don't know like if you were just touring in the U.S.

13:19yeah I was just doing the U.S. yeah but when you're touring like all over the place like you don't have a time zone and it's just the schedule is gnarly and yeah it's like the adrenaline is up and down it fucks your adrenal glands adrenals up and all that so it's a lot but I think once you get used to it now I mean I've been doing it for so long that I've got you know like a nice flow to it and I have a you know it takes a while to get the right team around you that's really important the right energies around you and so um yeah now I love it and it feels kind of like adult summer camp but I totally get you like it do you tour yeah yeah How long have you been touring for?

13:59I think my first tour was in 2014 or 2013. It was opening for the weekend. Oh, wow. What was that like? Amazing. Yeah. Would it stress you out to be at the venue before? Oh, yeah. It used to a lot. Very much so. I used to just feel anxious and needed not to be there during the day. Yeah. I got it. I mean, sound check, of course. But yeah, I liked to, I, and then I got kind of too comfortable doing that. And then I would show up like right before my show. And then my team was like, you can't do that. Like you have to like fucking be professional and like warm up and shit. But I, this is really bad.

14:41You need to warm up your vocals, et cetera. That's what you should be doing. But sometimes I just use the first few songs to warm up, but it works for me. like some people but don't any singing coach watching this is gonna uh kill me but i don't usually start my sets with like the big belters it's usually like the kind of low growls and then it like builds and so anyways yeah we also have like anxiety so like the later you can be there the better yeah exactly yeah i became that way towards the end i used to spend the entire day at the venue and then i was like i think i just want to sleep in my room because i can't sleep at the venue because there's so many moving parts yeah totally it's definitely and also it's just you don't know what it depends what venue you're playing but some of the backstages are not right quite like where you'd want to be hanging out and some are so yeah it really depends but yeah it's the more of a routine you can establish on the road and um the better you know the people around you really matter right it's that's everything how many people do you tour with matt my tour manager louise my manager manny meg and then the merch guy dan okay so it's like a small crew small crew and we're all in the same bus yeah cool that's yeah yeah i've never toured with like that small of a crew oh no that's well because i don't have a band no of course yeah that must be like Like, it's intimate.

16:15It's some sleepovers. Yeah, we like have fun. We went fishing together. Yeah. Did you catch any fish? I caught a huge one. Nice. A huge one. They all watched Hunger Games and Twilight. Love that. I just, I had to resort to my room at that point. But I love those movies. But I just, sometime when I was off stage, I was like, I have to just go to bed. Yeah. Yeah. Would you have a favorite venue you've ever played? Playing Radio City in New York was pretty legendary for me. Like, that just felt like a moment. right in my career like well I because I well first I opened for the weekend there and I was like wow like if I could ever play here it would be you know and then when I you know headlined there it was incredible um and then favorite venue I don't know it really for me it's like I mean Roundhouse in London is so iconic I've played there um a few times and I I love that venue it's really beautiful it just depends really depends if you're like in an intimate mood sometimes I I uh I to promote this album I did like a few acoustic shows and they were pretty small and just like beautiful and connected and so um that was really fun and then playing you know the big festival stages is amazing so it kind of depends right just what like mood you're in yeah yeah you just released your latest album yeah and are you like how soon between albums do you start on the next one are you just like taking it off now it depends when I need to write I'm not like I only write when I need to write I don't I'm not a machine that can just write you know there's a lot of writers that are just like give me concept and let's go for me it needs to come from when I write it's not like a mental thing it just needs to like feels like I'm a medium almost I don't even yeah I don't know what I'm writing about till it's happening kind of so how long have you been writing for like since you were a kid 15 so yeah a long time it's it definitely started more of like a therapeutic thing yeah like just to get it out and then it became yeah and then it just it became I was more writing like stream of consciousness type stuff and then it turned and then I you know started playing with chords and putting some of my sentences to melodies and it kind of just naturally happened and then once I like really discovered it it was just oh my god just the best feeling do you remember the moment you like discovered like really felt like you had discovered it um yeah I do I was in the house that I grew up in we had set my keyboard up like right outside my room in this little like hallway area and I just yeah just when I discovered it those few months were like a blur I just that's all I wanted to do and um yeah I was like I found my best friend or something oh that's so awesome yeah and then And what was the moment where you felt like, okay, I am doing this and now this is my career?

19:21I mean, I went to school for psychology, so I didn't necessarily. But it's funny because in the dorm, I went to USC. You went to USC too. Yeah. The dorm that I lived at had like a soundproof room with a piano in it. Which dorm did you live at? I was in New North. Okay. Yeah. That's like right next to it. Yeah, right next. Yeah, yeah, yeah. but it had I don't know if it still does but it had a soundproof room with a grand piano in it so it was insane so like in between classes if I had a break in my schedule I would just like go in there and write and um yeah eventually my songs got into somebody's hands that showed somebody else and blah blah blah blah just happened and then you graduated USC though right yeah but not before having some jobs that were not very fun.

20:17What were your jobs? Well, one fun job was working at Lilabo. Oh, that sounds awesome. Yeah. Yeah, eventually Zane Lowe, who was at this point working for Radio 1 in the UK, heard my music and played a song called Before I Ever Met You on the radio. And that's kind of how everything started. and um yeah it was just I had been writing for so long on my own so it's not like it happened out of nowhere like I'd been writing for like 10 years already right but being in front of people I didn't even have any social media or anything at that point how did how was music shared back then on like myspace and stuff and facebook soundcloud soundcloud yeah did you upload stuff to SoundCloud or no?

21:03No, I met somebody who ended up being my first manager, but, um, he like helped me put it on SoundCloud and stuff. And, um, yeah, it was just, yeah, it was really cool. Incredible. It's still surreal to me just how much, you know, seeing people sing my lyrics and how much, you know, it resonates with people. And, um, in the airport on the way here, this girl was like, oh my God, Banks, like I have a tattoo of you. And she had like. That's so cool. Yeah. Tattoos, some lyrics and stuff. So yeah, it's really cool. Oh my God, that's awesome. Yeah. On a separate note, what are you therapist about today?

21:44Ooh, therapist? You go first. What am I therapist about? My under eye bags are just not it today. I think they're looking fabulous. And I saw a photo of me the other day and I was like, damn. And I think I want to get stuff injected below them. Go for it. I think I want to do it. But I've heard that maybe you can go blind if you do that. Wow. So I don't. Somebody that I just worked with said that they got salmon sperm injected under their eyes. I also just recently heard that from someone I see. Yeah. Maybe we should both go do that. I know. Well, did you see the photo of them after they got their salmon sperm injected?

22:24No. They came to the studio right from when they did it. And they didn't have like bumps all over their face? No, they were like, oh my God, sorry. I just got salmon sperm in my face. And I was like, I don't know. No, no, no, no. I saw somebody with like bumps all over their face when they got it done. Oh, wow. Yeah. It was pretty crazy. What does that do? Does anyone know? I mean, the doctors do and the people who get, I'm sure it makes. Did they say it worked? It probably fixes the problem your therapist about. My under eye bags. I need them gone. Yeah. And are you, do you have no, do you have anything your therapist about or are you?

22:56I mean, tomorrow I have a session and who I'm working with has to leave early and like, I wish he didn't. Everything's acceptable. Yeah, that's acceptable. Okay, cool. That's what I'll be therapist about. I'm also therapist because my show is ending that I'm watching. Have you ever seen Mr. Robot? No, is it good? It's unbelievable. Wait, do you know what I'm rewatching right now? What? I actually, I'm saying rewatching, but I only ever saw, I think, one season of it, Vampire Diaries. Oh, that's my roommate's favorite show in the entire world. I'm on season two, like the end of season two. Oh, season three is amazing.

23:25It's so good. Yeah, it's so good. Vampire Diaries is the best show ever. Truly. Yeah. Was it on Netflix or HBO now? HBO. Right. Used to be on Netflix. But I've downloaded like all of them for the planes. Yeah. Et cetera. Like it's so good. You have so much life ahead of you. I know. I love finding new shows that. And it's a long one too. And that seasons are like 20 episodes. My show's about to end. And I'm like depressed about it. I'm sorry. But I'm like weirdly like excited to see the end of it. But I don't know who I'm going to be when it's done. Like I'm sad serious. Like I don't know what I'm going to do.

23:57I'm like kind of tweaking out about it. Yeah. Like it's been my entire life. I was literally just watching it right before this. Okay. I just finished season three. So it's three seasons. Yeah. What type of TV does you and your fiance usually watch? Like thriller stuff? No. I hate being scared. Really? Well, I have a bad habit where like I'll see the synopsis or like a trailer of a horror film and I'm so intrigued at what happens. so I have to read the Wikipedia whole plot. I've done that before. I need to know what happens. Does she die? I need to find everything out and then I'm like, phew, I know what happens.

24:33Right. I don't need to see it. I've done that so many times. So I do that with scary movies. What does your fiance watch? What does he like to watch? We just watched The Gentleman. Actually, we watched that on the tour bus. How was that? He came on tour and we watched that. It was so good. Guy Ritchie directed it. Yeah, it's about like a mob, right? Yeah. Yeah. So good. Is it a movie? Yeah, it's a movie. Got it. I'm not a movie guy these days. I don't know what's going on. Yeah. I need to get back into them. Watch that movie. I'll watch The Gentleman. It was good. What else? Yeah. I don't know.

25:06I feel like the problem with movies is if you're going to actually take people's attention away from their fucking phones, it needs to be really good. Really good, yeah. Yeah. And it's hard these days. The Gentleman was good. We put our phones down. I have a very hard time putting my phone away, but I have to for Mr. Robot. But I just went to dinner with my manager and a few other people, and he taught me a really good game, which is everyone put their phone in the middle of the table. And whoever picks it up has to pay. And whoever has to pay. Yeah. I've never done that. Nobody touched their phone.

25:40We do that. We all split it. But, like, we never abide by it. Really? Like, we'll pick it up and just be like, well, we have to. And then does that person actually pay or no? No, of course not. And then we just all go back on our phones. Oh, well, that game is not for you then. No, I know. You have to respect the rules. I know, and we can't. Oh, my God, I'm so addicted to my phone. Yeah. I still am. I feel like I live my life on my phone. Really? My entire life. Yeah. It's all I think about. Well, your whole, you know, everything like kind of started. I know. Through TikTok, right? Yeah, I'm definitely way more addicted to my phone than I used to be because of it.

26:14Yeah. Like way, way, way more. But. do you want to get into the tell me what's wrongs my favorite part yeah what okay let's go so people write in yes and then we just give them advice okay i had a sex dream about my friend's dad and i haven't been able to make eye contact with her since and i need help and a lobotomy interesting so do we answer it i think i've had dreams like that not about my friend's dads but like about people that I'm like, oh my God, I can't believe I just had a dream about them. And you kind of just have to swallow it. You have to swallow it. And pretend like it didn't happen.

26:51I'm not sure she should tell her friend that. No. Maybe that's the answer. Don't tell your friend, just keep moving on. Yeah. Like it never happened. But like maybe it, maybe there is some attraction there. Probably. Right? Like I feel like I've had dreams like that about people that I'm like, what? I am so uncomfortable that I've just had this dream about this person, but I literally can't control it. Yeah. Well, I think that girl should just not tell her friend keep it moving if it keeps happening make a move no I'm kidding or like stop hanging out with the friend but I guess it's not the friend's fault no it's not the friend's fault my controlling ex once screamed at me at a festival in front of my friends we recently broke up and now he's posting screenshots of my text on Instagram saying I was plotting on him even though I was just asking friends for advice that's disgusting anybody who would do that is looks way worse than the person they're posting about that's do you think so because i agree 100 are you crazy of course but like people online don't share that same sentiment they're just like willing to jump on like a tirade well those people are insane those people are crazy because that's a crazy thing to do you can't first of all people online like you can't you can't this is something i'm still working on and i'm sure every single person in the public eye but you cannot live your life by like random people online that you don't know who they are obviously but yes I think that that's psychotic it's like so there's no privacy anymore yeah well if you can't trust a person like that person's obviously not a good person I feel like maybe we're coming around to the consensus that it is really uncool to do that yeah that's consensus when did anyone ever think that was okay did I miss something like people would like post screenshots and then everyone would be like oh they suck they suck they suck of like a private conversation always am i wrong louise like people did i how did i not like there is like no in the younger generations there is little to no privacy yeah i'm i'm not yeah have you ever had something like that happening where someone's like i'm gonna like screenshot our text and or just i'm sure i can't really think of it right now but probably can you go to the Are there cops for that?

29:01I think that should be illegal. You can't, right? Right. So you can just like have solace in the fact that he's a bad person? I don't really know. Internet's crazy though. I've had people like come to my house because they see something in one picture that's like next to a street that they know. And then they find like something in someone's backyard that looks similar to the thing that was across. Like it's very crazy. It's the wild, wild west. My sister just decided she wants to apply early to UVA. oh my god I'd love that for her it's been my dream school since I was five oh if she gets in it lowers my chances is it bad that I kind of hope she doesn't no that's not true that's not true I think they're twins I'm confused why would lower her chances it doesn't lower your chances if you have family that goes somewhere it makes your chances greater because I think they like that I think I'm gonna I think they're twins maybe why because because that's the only way that this comment would make sense.

29:57Like, because I used to think that. If other people in my grade were applying to USC, I'd be like, oh, well, like, that's going to lower my chances. But twins is different than just other people. I think they're in the same grade. Okay. Read it one more time. My sister just decided she wants to apply early to UVA. It's been my dream school since I was five. If she gets in, it lowers my chances. Is it bad that I kind of hope she doesn't? Okay. So do you see what I mean? Like, they're like twins. Okay, I think they're identical twins. Yes. And I think that this was like the only thing that she had always wanted to do separate from her.

30:29And then all of a sudden her identical twin wants to do the one thing that she thought was just for her. Right. If they are twins, I understand her frustration. I understand also. I'd be so mad. I'd be furious. But also you can't control how you feel. Yeah. You know, just because you have those feelings, you can't like judge your own feelings. Just accept it. Maybe don't tell her like, I hope you don't get in. Maybe work through those feelings somehow, but it's okay. Yeah, that is good advice. my so-called best friend has drained my energy for over a year my family thinks she's toxic but my two other best friends are close with her and we're always together should i cut it off i mean if you know you know you know yeah like if you know you fucking know and she's gonna have to be around this person through her other friends all the time so maybe those other friends are also slightly toxic maybe you need to get some maybe you just need to just reset we're like giving them We're like, lose all your friends.

31:21But like, right. Like if she knows she's toxic, wouldn't you say that the other people that also hang out? No, I don't know. Yeah. Because it sounds like a toxic dynamic. Right. Like it feels like if you know someone's toxic and the other friends are like, no, she's not toxic, but you know, like you're not crazy and that you know they're toxic, then maybe those people are a little like enabling or whatever. And like something about it is just giving like not it for her. and like maybe she should just take a break and like focus on creative endeavors that make her happy like that's what I think she should do yeah she should go meet the identical twin who needs a friend to talk to about UVA yeah an early decision yeah I talked to an AI bot for fun but eventually it started to feel like an actual conversation and like low-key I'm crushing what do I do honestly same are you serious no but my friend and I actually she's here my best friend she uh every time she goes through something she's like i'm gonna ask my therapist ai like oh yeah they call it my friends call it chatterby yeah so chat therapy i think a lot wait so sorry she said she's like having like legitimate like human feelings for this ai bot oh human feelings for it like like feeling for the bot like loves it i don't know but like it gives me AI freaks me out.

32:37Yeah it's terrifying. The only AI I like is when it summarizes your texts on your phone and it can be really funny sometimes. Have you ever seen that? No. In a group chat if you miss like 20 texts it'll be like Louise failed test needs to go shopping colon upset. And like that's like that's like my favorite type of AI. Yeah that's good. But everything else I don't use chat. No it's terrible. It bugs me out. I want to like it. No I it's yeah especially as like a creative like taking humans out of art right the exact opposite of what art is it actually makes me so bad and like a lot of people who um yeah I don't know sometimes I don't know how far to go or like what to say in these types of things because I don't want to like say anything that offends the bot that no yeah it's like you want to like in case there's ever oh no that's not actually oh okay no yeah uh in general yeah i think it's it's really i understand that people are like no you could use it to help your creativity and blah blah blah but like at a certain point art is literally to express what you need to express right that's what the best art is it comes from a like a necessity to get something out that's like the antithesis of art is like having a robot just make something for you like so I don't know that's yeah I agree I agree but yeah if I would stop using the chat AI this is really fun this game it's fun right let's keep going I just got a gym membership and I have a workout plan I'm super excited to start but I've never had to go to a new gym alone and I'm scared I went today and was too intimidated by the giant men because I know my form I know my form isn't the best oh my god I feel that sometimes I think everybody thinks that everyone at the gym is just like these experts of bodybuilders and good for those people that are but go to the gym girl or guy or whoever you know just wrote that but do you I agree I think you just need to put in your headphones and drown it out yeah nobody really knows what they're doing on those machines what nobody really knows what they're doing on those machines I they just kind of like figure out they're like oh like they go this way I'm gonna push this way oh they go this way I'm gonna push this way also like I feel like no one everyone at the gym thinks everyone's looking at them and that is not true unless you are a gay man that is the truth do you feel like that I went to Equinox in West Hollywood um for the first and last time I used to I I've just from growing up in LA I've lived like in pretty much right every different area and i at one point lived in west hollywood and belonged to that gym as well and it's quite a scene yeah it's a scene and do you still belong there no no no i do not i haven't been i haven't been there in like three years i think i used to go and we would call it biking and we would sit on the stationary bikes and just move our feet and talk for an hour we would bike we would call it we would call it like he would sit there and just go like this for an hour and I wonder why I gained like literally 20 pounds that year I'm starting to worry that my long-term boyfriend is losing interest in me because of the space between us what can I do to keep the fire lit oh I need to know more about this because why is there space are you in the same are you in a different city different country let's say different city okay different city I think start getting a little freaky on the phone definitely have some movie nights where you press play at the exact same time and you like sit on FaceTime.

36:19You have a Netflix party? Yeah. What is it? Oh my God. It was like my COVID kryptonite. You would go to, did you ever Louise? You go to Netflix, you send the link to your friends and it starts together and you chat. Oh, that's cute. You know what? I'm going to do that with the guy I'm talking to. That's cute. Yeah. I've just from touring so much, I have a lot of advice and ideas with this stuff because it is hard. Read this, start a new book that you haven't read and read it. and like I mean that sounds like kind of cheesy but it's kind of cute and fun it's yeah I guess yeah there's like a lot of things you can do especially with like FaceTime and stuff right a lot of slutty no I'm kidding no but like yeah I just get yeah I I feel I feel bad you did you have done long distance with this guy with your fiance yeah but I've also done long distance with other people as well like it's is it one of the hardest things ever I mean it's it depends like the people I was dating who were long distance were also musicians so like we were we were all we would both be touring and we'd figure it out you know it just it really depends how much you like the person like if if um if you really like someone you can make it work right that's why whenever people are like oh we live in different cities I'm like I fucking dated someone that was in Australia when I was in LA like I think you could that's crazy yeah because How far ahead is Australia?

37:41Like a day and a half or something crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. My roommate says slay after every sentence, including when I told her my grandpa died. Sorry. No, I feel like, I feel like. That's fucking annoying. Slay though, like slay. If somebody dies and you say slay. It's just like there is an overuse of it. and I think this is that overuse. That person sounds annoying. That person sounds annoying in general. Yeah, they need to just like their personality sucks. Right? Like after my grandma honestly though that is funny. My grandpa died slay. That's funny. Like that is a funny use of slay.

38:26I think like I once read it telling me what's wrong and this girl said this her roommate hooked up with the guy she had a crush on and knew she had a crush on him came back and said tea and went to bed and that to this day is my favorite tell me tell me what's wrong i've ever gotten yeah slay i'm in love with my this is the last one i'm in love with my first last one i know literally this is so fun i want to do this all day these are good this is a good batch really these are great i think i'm in love with my friend but she just asked me to be her maid of honor oh so you need to get a grip respectfully yeah she's getting married no get a grip yeah she's Can he married?

39:05Get a grip. Maid of honor, if it's going to make you be like weird and like passive aggressive and make her wedding awkward. Don't be selfish. Politely. Politely decline. Politely decline. This must be like her best friend though. Wait, did it say? No, but like a maid of honor. Did it say? Yeah. It just said friend, but I would assume best friend. Best friend or sister, but it's not the sister. It's not the sister. Okay, well, I think either put your feelings aside because it's not going to happen. She's getting married. Right. Or if you can't do that and you're going to be weird and annoying and passive.

39:47Unless you're going to pull one of those rom-coms. That's what I was just thinking, but those are so unrealistic. But your day with the car impounded sounded like a rom-com. Yeah, it was a rom-com. Or the car stolen. Sorry. I just thought of how cute he looked with his little ice cream. Oh, that is really sweet. How long have you guys been engaged for? Two years?

40:12Like a year and some change. Got it. Yeah. I love that and some change. Yeah. I'm going to start saying that. What are you listening to right now? I know what you're watching. You're watching Vampire Diaries. What are you listening to? Okay. okay Lou who's that incredible she's a French based in Paris I think she's amazing um Ray obviously I love Ray Crongbin amazing I don't know if that's how you pronounce it it's uh spelled Crongbin that love um Maribu State there's just like a production duo from the UK that I love Do you know them? Sick. I'm so excited. I feel like I'm finding out so much new music.

40:58And then like Brandy. That's how I said I never warm up. I actually, this last tour, warmed up singing to Brandy. Really? Yeah. I love Brandy. Who else? Emojen Heap, always one of the faves. Oh, yeah. She's everything. Yeah. She did the original Good Night and Go, right? Yeah. That's so cool. Claro, I love. I love Claro. Do you listen to Japanese House? Yeah. Louise was like, you would love Japanese house and I've never gotten into them. You know, I never got into Fiona Apple either. I know. Is she that good? Okay. Fiona Apple is like, for me, that one artist when I was younger that like really, really was the one for me.