Session 110: Luke Combs

26:25Luke Combs:I can understand that. But let's say I go into a store and you're at the end. It's like, you need any socks? We're running a deal on socks. They got stuff. It's like, they're selling me at stuff on the register. I'm like, it's too late. It's the end. Like, I don't, if I needed socks, they'd be up here. I would already have the socks. Is that what it, I don't think I've ever been to a store. that's tried to like bargain socks with me at the front. You have not been to Izod then. Because let me tell you what, when I was working there, that's the thing is it was like, it was part of your job to like push the.

26:55Luke Combs:Did you get commission? Sale. No. That's horrible. Of course not. So then you're doing the like super uncomfortable thing that I hate people doing to me, forced to do it to other people. Right. And then you're like, sure. You don't want a nice Henley shirt, dude. and people are like, it's the summer. Why would I want a Henley shirt? What's a Henley shirt? We got to get you. We got to up your game, dude. Well, what is that? Henley shirt? It's like a long sleeve, like a thermal long sleeve. Okay. Pop it up. We need some. Okay, can somebody get me a photo of a Henley shirt? A Henley shirt. It's almost like a waffle knit kind of like.

27:30Luke Combs:Ooh, I love a waffle knit. That would be a Henley. I kind of want to go to Eyes Eye with you. It might be a long sleeve. I've never seen that before. Yeah, this. Exactly. I've never seen that before. like waffle. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably waffle. And it's probably the new word. Yeah. I'd say Henley's probably like, if he called a dresser, a Chesterfield or something would be like, you know what I mean? Like now, a Chesterfield, a Chesterfield, pop a Google on it. It's a real thing. It's a real thing. It's also, I feel like I'm aging myself. I got that particular one from, it was a joke from family guy.

28:05Luke Combs:I love family guy. And it was Brian. The dog was dating a woman. who everyone felt like was too old for him. And he was like, she's not too old. I could never get past the Brian thing. Him, like, him. It's weird. That was kind of weird, yeah. I could not get, like, imagining him, like, fucking a human. Yeah, like, the bestiality of it was kind of odd. It bugs me out till no end. But the way that they communicated in the show. Yeah, no, it still bugs me out. That he, that this woman was too old for him, for him, is, like, they're in the bedroom together. And he's like, hey, she's like, get me this thing out of the Chesterfield.

28:39Luke Combs:And he's like, what? And she's like, well, you know, and she says a different thing. And it's just a super old words for a dresser. And then he's like, maybe she is too old for me. Because she's saying stuff that's not even a thing anymore. Henley is my version of that. Now I just say waffle mitt. Do you think I look like Stewie from Family Guy? No, I do not. Okay, because I've seen some people say that. People say that? Sometimes, yeah. Your head does not look like a football. I get Stewie. I get Rumpelstiltskin. I don't see it. I don't see it. I think you look like you. You know what I mean?

29:10Luke Combs:You look like you, man. You know what I mean? There's nothing wrong with that. Well, thank you. Hell yeah. Your head is not a football, first off. It's quite large. No. If you're going fitted hat, what size are you wearing? Do you know? So, no. But I have, like, the. If you're an eight ball, like, you're getting there. Like, an eight is, like, the highest hat they make. Like, if you were, like, a baseball hat. Like, I know this is a baseball hat, but like a flat bill. No, that's a trucker hat. It's a trucker hat. But like a flat bill baseball hat that's fitted, there's sizes. And when you buy them, it's like seven and a quarter, seven and a half, seven and five eights.

29:48Luke Combs:Eight is the biggest one that they make. Okay. I don't think you're not an eight, dude. You're not an eight ball. What are you wearing right now? My fitted size is seven and five eights. I kind of want to go shopping with you. Come on, let's go to Lids, dude. We'll see what hat size you are. We got to get you up, dude. what is lids i forgot you are kidding i like this this is nice i feel like i'm telling you all these old man things that i'd like you need to know in my opinion and which is lids may not even exist anymore right like was it a part of your youth to go to the mall um well once i went once yeah and i went to hot topic okay hot topic very mall that's a very mall store spencer's gifts very mall store okay imagine hot topic but it was more like how would you it's like everything had like the nightmare before christmas on it but it was like a dildo okay you know it was like the weirdest place they have auntie annie's at all the malls yes that's very orange julius very mall julius orange julius it's like a smoothie like a smoothie place that's like connected to annie ann's Like Annie N slash Orange Julius, 100%.

31:01Oh, it's like Baskin-Robbins slash...

31:03Luke Combs:Whatever's with Baskin-Robbins. Always something. It's like Long John Silver's Taco Bell. Whatever, you know what I mean? Like Taco Bell KFC. You know, it's kind of like a combo deal. Okay, what's your favorite chain in the South? Bojangles is going to be up there. You probably don't know what that is. If you don't know what Lids is, you probably don't know what Bojangles is. Do you know what a Bojangles is? Yeah, it's Miss Alabama over there. She loves Bojangles, I can tell. Bojangles, fantastic. They got breakfast all day. It's like biscuits, biscuits and gravy, that kind of deal. Cookout. So I've heard.

31:36Luke Combs:Cookout. So I've heard. Unbelievable spot. Yeah, I've heard it's amazing. You get a corndog as a side. How are you beating that? A quesadilla as a side at cookout. You can get a tray with a hamburger, and you get two sides, so you can get a quesadilla and a corndog. Oh, it's like a good deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be like$7 for all that. Wow. And you can add a milkshake for like$1.50. It's insane. What's your favorite type of milkshake? Gosh, man. I don't know. I feel like I'm going like Blizzard Town in my head, like DQ Blizzard kind of vibe. Milkshake, I would go probably like a chocolate malt almost, I feel like would even be like, I know that's technically not a milkshake, but I like the same cloth for sure.

32:21Luke Combs:I like a black and white. That's nice. I like that. If I'm going Blizzard, I'm going like mint chocolate. Ooh. I see that for you. I'm a mint chocolate guy. I love a coffee ice cream. Me too. You know that's my favorite thing. Yeah, coffee ice cream is like number one. Oh my God. It's number one for me. So what I do, my favorite thing in the entire world, my favorite smoothie in the entire world, is a coffee smoothie. Because it's like ice cream. I can't say I've ever had one of those. Okay, so I need to take you. Yep. Next time you're in New York. Shop and like I'll take you to all the old mall stores that may not exist anymore.

32:56Luke Combs:Right. Lids, Spencer's Gifts, GameStop. Oh, I used to. Were you a Pokemon kid? A little bit. I was a big Pokemon kid. Yeah, a little bit. As you can probably assume. What's wrong with being Pokemon? No, I know nothing's been wrong with me. I mean, it's a dude Pokemon. You got the old collection, dude. You might be a millionaire. Well, so my friend's brother is a collector, but I liked the Game Boy Advance. Oh, man, I loved Game Boy. Gosh. What games did you play on that? I loved Game Boy, man. I played Paper Boy. It was like, that was top. I got that for Christmas one year, and my parents had to rip it out of my hands, dude.

33:29Luke Combs:I was obsessed with Paperboy. I used to sleep with my Game Boy underneath my pillow so I could stay up all night. And your parents would be like, do all your stuff split away? Yes, yeah. And then you're like... You know what's something that we have in common, actually? What's that? Watches. I noticed. I know you did. That's nice. What's your top? My top is my Nautilus. What's the dream watch? An Aquanaut. That we don't have. Aquanaut. I don't have an Aquanaut. I want an Aquanaut because I want to wear it during the summer when it's hot because the rubber band. Rubber strap. Yeah, that's the dream.

34:03Luke Combs:The cut, I didn't realize the cut the strap thing. I didn't know that. So when you buy the Aquanaut, it comes with a full strap. Like the rubber strap, there's no buckle. Oh, they cut it for you. You have to go in and they size it and then they cut the strap. So then that watch is like, if someone else, if you were to resell that watch, and it was for someone that has a bigger wrist than you, they'd have to buy a new strap. Okay, okay. Tell me, what is your top favorite watch? I mean, that's going to be tough. I know. I mean, there's a lot. I don't know. I love it all, to be honest. Like, I don't have any particular one that I'm like, I really love a Longa, which is like a German brand.

34:49Luke Combs:It's got more of a kind of like a almost independent German brand that kind of went away, like ceased business for a while. And then it came back in the late 90s. They kind of like reinvigorated the brand. I love those. I just think they're like the craftsmanship of those is like wild. You know, like if you look at it through the loop or whatever in the back, like it's like everything's like engraved. it's like stuff you almost couldn't even see with the naked eye like you're looking at it and then you put the loop in and you're like i didn't see that stuff yeah i didn't know that was in there so you know what i'm realizing as you're saying these things to me i actually am not that big of a watch guy i think i there's levels there's i think i just like the status it gives me just full transparency but you here's the thing though is you will like ultimately delve into that Right.

35:43Luke Combs:Because the further you get into it, it's like a deep hole that you can just never get out of. Totally. I mean, I definitely have the bug. I have the bug. Yes. But I'm definitely not into the... I've just gotten to weight. So I like a heavy, not a lighter. Depends on the metal. Of course. A titanium watch, that's an expensive watch, but it's going to be super light. Right. Which is what some people like about it. It's different strokes for different folks. man it's like every something you like might not be something i like and that's i think that's great to be honest there's something for everybody of course in that in the watch world right and really all price points too to be honest like you could spend a bajillion dollars on a watch or you could spend a hundred dollars on a watch like they're the barrier to entry is not money i just feel like to me it feels like this um i don't know does it ever make you feel like a little more attractive like when i put it on i feel like sexy i feel like it i feel like it definitely gives you some confidence yeah certainly yeah and i think like when i'm on a date i always go like this and then if they don't care then i'm just like fuck it i mean look at me i'm not pulling my sleeve down no of course i could easily be like on a red carpet i always go you're just kind of jingling you're like you're like make sure my they'll tailor yeah i've tailored suits so it chose my watch i've yeah i do the thing where it's like it kind of like my left arm will be the sleeve is a little bit looser than the right sleeve so that it can pop out of the sleeve easier as lame as that sounds that's the thing no it's honest full transparency yeah full transparency transparency okay question so when it rains it pours i mean you spoke to god that day you wrote that song i love that song you so okay how i just i need to know because out of all of the songs i listened to this week during my luke combs crash out yep that was the one i used i made her send me videos of her listening to it in college because it was her college song jam yeah absolute jam so i just need to know from start to finish how you started writing it what because it's a very like uh uh uh uh you know like it's very like it's got some pace to it what's your favorite well What's your favorite part?

37:58Luke Combs:Okay, my favorite line in the song is ex-future mother-in-law. For sure. It's great. It's great because you're - It's so memorable. And when I came up with that line, I was like real proud of myself. I was like, yeah, that was good. Because you're listing all these good things that have happened, and you're like, and by the way, the best part is I don't have to see her bitch-ass mom. Exactly. Yes. Exactly. And I'll give my buddy, so I wrote it with one of my best friends in the world, Ray Fulcher and our buddy Jordan Walker. and we're when I paint the picture of writing the song so like you gotta think I have no albums out I've released six songs over the course of my probably three years doing music at this point all in my own accord like just as a basically a college flunk out student and I moved to Nashville I'm basically writing with you know any the guy at Subway I would write with you know like I'd be like let's write a song like anyone that would write with me right so I basically would start going to writers nights and basically you spend a lot of time networking and meeting people that you feel like you have you know a lot of things in common with or that like the same kind of you know style of country music you like or whatever it may be and so I had met Ray and Jordan just kind of doing that and go there that day the it was my idea when it rains it pours but in my mind And it was going to be this like George Jones, like super slow, like tears in my beers.

39:25Luke Combs:Like my wife left me and I'm sad, like at the bar. I can't get any worse than this. And so I remember Jordan going, I'm pitching the idea, like let's do this song. Because you spend the first half hour of the write, like what are we going to write today? Like what's your ideas? What's my ideas? And you're kind of floating stuff back and forth. I pitched that idea, was selling them on it. And they loved the title. and Jordan was like, what if we made it an up-tempo song? Because the title, when you see it, you would immediately think, well, this is going to be super sad. What does When It Rains It Pours mean?

40:00Can it be both good and bad things? I don't understand.

40:04Luke Combs:I think it is a saying that is only meant to be like, when it's bad, it's really fucking bad. That's what, yes. Okay, that's how I took it. When it rains, it pours. Like, it can't get any worse. Right. You know what I mean? And so he flipped the script on it. His idea was to flip the script on the phrase of like, well, let's make it all good stuff. You know what I mean? And it was a brilliant idea. I mean, all credit to Jordan, like flip and like the song would not be anything like what it is without his idea. I remember his roommate. So none of us had publishing deals at the time. Nothing going on.

40:37Luke Combs:No record deals. Like we are basically all incredibly unsuccessful at this time. and Jordan had a roommate a super nice guy named Andy Albert and I remember he was in a different room we were writing at Jordan's house and he's in there he's working on he's like mixing a demo that he had written with somebody else and we're just about to start the song and he kind of comes through to get something out of the fridge or whatever and Jordan's like hey man you ought to like pop in pop in write this song with us dude and he was like oh dude he's like I'm good man I'm working on this other thing and didn't write the song with us.

41:12Luke Combs:And it wound up being, it's like almost double diamond song. Yeah. And so Andy has had like a bunch of other hits with other artists and stuff. So he's great. Like he's having a great career, but Jordan for a while was like, man really should have popped in that day. Huh? Like we even asked you if you wanted to come and say, he would always give the song kind of just flow though. Cause this, you hear it here. It's a flow. It like flows the whole song in general. It was, it was like a really fun, right? For sure. Cause once Jordan said that, I'm like, well, let's, let's just dig into like it being, you know, just goofy.

41:46Luke Combs:Like at that time, again, there's no, like, there's no pressure at all. Right. There's no like, well, we sure could use another hit or it's like, we really need a song. It was like, I'm just basically getting reps in. I got, it's almost like you're at practice. Like I'm writing songs every single day. So like, and so is Ray and so is Jordan, not with each other, but every day we're writing with somebody different. So like, I'm trying to do any and everything, all styles. Like, and so when I get, you know, rarely do you get like, let's write this like uptempo, like tongue in cheek song. Yeah. Like that, there's not many people trying to write that stuff in town.

42:23Did you start what by writing the verses first or the chorus? How did you like approach?

42:28Luke Combs:Every song is different. You know, the process of coming up with something is always different. And I think sometimes it's a really cool guitar lick. You know what I mean? Like, I would imagine, I don't know this for a fact, but I would imagine when Tracy Chapman wrote Fast Car, she had the lick first. Okay, and the lick is... And it was like, this lick is...

42:51Luke Combs:I would imagine that was the first thing she found and was like, I have a lick that I really like that's really cool. I should make that. I should just mimic this guitar lick that's super, in my mind, recognizable. Because, again, you don't know until the song comes out. And so she really loved the lick. Again, this is all speculative. And then she writes the verses melodically to match that guitar lick. Sometimes that happens. Sometimes I have guys I write with that aren't super musical. Like, they're not, like, melody, big-time melody guitar guys. and sometimes they'll come in with a whole like here's a bunch like almost a poem of like here's this here's these five or six lines and i really like how they all fit together now let's come up with a melodic thing that we feel like would match this vibe okay and it just can it can be anything i mean anything like sometimes some guys come in like like we call them track guys would be this And so they come in, they're almost, I don't want to say DJ, that's not the right word, but they're almost like a producer.

43:59Luke Combs:They would come in with an entire song that's written, basically, that has no words to it at all. Right. And you just press play. So imagine listening to You Proof by Morgan Wallen. No words. You come in and go, and it's just that beat. It's just the beat. And it's just the music for that song. And they're going, this is a smash. Now, what do we say to go with that thing? Because we feel like that's really catchy. There's a thousand different ways to skin a cat. And in the music business, that's another Southernism for you. Right. You clocked. But there's a million different ways to do it. You like cats?

44:38Luke Combs:I do cats. I would not peg you for a cat guy. Something about us cat guys, you know what I mean?

44:48ever since i was a kid i have like probably since i was seven i've really struggled with ocd i'm a very i very very very obsessive thoughts so that and i'm very superstitious so they kind of like become one i like wishful i think it's called magical thinking ocd um but

45:07just leave it just leave it what the fuck

45:13I've had OCD since I was seven and my like OCD is very obsessive about like am I a bad person did I do this bad thing like am I like kind of like a stained OCD is like how I would phrase it in my mind like my life is stained a lot of people will treat it as like regular anxiety but it's like really really different like it's just a different type of anxiety I can't describe it because it's so obsessive but people don't really talk about it a lot like they really do not except in girls they also showed it but it's like really it's a horrible disease there is a website for this called no cd and it is the world's leader in ocd treatment it is covered by insurance life comes with like accepting the fact that sometimes you have to manage something instead of just trying to shut it out entirely and that's why ocd treatment at least to me is so important because I know it's going to be a part of me for a really long time but like if I can manage it and make things better like so I will get like hours of my life back sometimes something very helpful with OTT is ERP which is exposure and response therapy which I find personally helpful to me like um I did it back I think in like 2020 and it was like I used to have this um OCD thing where I had to add a song to a playlist four times and I really love music so that was really hard for me and the exposure therapy I took would like make me sit there in that uncomfortableness but you really sometimes just do need someone to like hold your hand and like be like I'm specialized in this like I will help you and the best thing about NoCD is that all their licensed therapists specialize in ERP which is exposure and response therapy you meet with them in live face-to-face virtual sessions and at least for me like all the therapy I do nowadays is virtual if you are struggling NoCD is a great resource for OCD treatment.

46:57You can go to nocd.com slash Jake to book a free 15-minute session to get started. That's nocd.com slash Jake.

47:08Luke Combs:Well, I mean, you got to be who you're going to be, dude. I know, but to what extent? To the extent where you're ultimately happy for the rest of your life. Chill. You know what I mean? You can't want to end up with somebody who's like, man, I wish you would be different. Right. Have you ever been in a relationship like that before? No, honestly, I haven't. I've always been pretty selective on that stuff. And I've always I've always just kind of been like, well, one, I don't want to change anybody else. Right. And I don't want anybody to change me either. And that's like that's just up front. And I feel like you kind of got to get ahead of that.

47:45Luke Combs:OK. I mean, people don't change. Do you believe people change? I believe people can change. I think it's probably more uncommon than a lot of people would like you to believe. I think it takes a tremendous amount of work, whether that's physically or therapy-wise. You have to do some serious coal mining to get to the next layer below that. You know what I mean? And to rebuild it back up in a different fashion, it takes a lot of work. I think it is doable. I just don't know that people on the internet are doing it as much as they say they are. Right, and then people also don't accept change. Or they're not being as transparent about it.

48:21Luke Combs:Of course. You know what I mean? So the relationship thing for me is, I mean, ultimately it will happen at the right time. And, you know, I mean, it will, when it presents itself, you'll know. You know, the year of yes. Right. What was the worst year of your life? Okay. 27? No. Okay. So I'm 35. 27 was rocking, bro. Okay, well, I'm sorry because I was just speaking to someone that's said it was the worst year of their life because of Saturn return but I don't know so I would think worst year of my life was probably would probably be like 21 for me okay um so turn 21 I had really bad I have like really bad OCD from time to time me as well um and like to the point where it can like affect like outcomes of things in my life you know um basically like crippling to some extent like beyond like i need to straighten the rug you know what i mean like it's not yeah there is are some people that do have that and it can become like a crippling thing most of it is mental stuff but 21 was the year i struggled the most with it and it's another year where you feel like it's supposed to be the best year of your life like it's supposed to be this big like i'm finally a real adult i can't rent a car but basically everything else you know what i mean and so That was tough for me because I was in school at Appalachian State.

49:49Luke Combs:I have a ton of friends. I have great parents that live an hour and a half away. It was actually my birthday. Oh, wow. Yeah, it was actually my birthday my parents came up. I remember it was yesterday because any time I have these moments, it's like a nuclear bomb going off in my head. You can't forget it. You're like OCD moments? Yeah. They basically can start instantaneously. Like what, like what, how does that manifest? Because I have OCD as well. So I know it can manifest in like a bunch of different ways. Like when you have an OCD moment or a flare up, what happens like in your head? If you don't mind me asking.

50:24Luke Combs:Yeah, no, I don't. And it's basically like mine is based on, you know, a lot of it, it all, obviously all deals with intrusive thoughts. Of course. So my particular, you know, subvariant, whatever you want to call it, is medically classified as purely obsessional compulsive disorder, which is a bit of a misnomer because there are a lot of compulsions, but none of the compulsions are visual. So it's all like... All the compulsions take place in my mind. Okay. They're thought-based compulsions, which is an attempt to negate or basically, you know, think away the intrusive thoughts that are giving me anxiety.

51:09Luke Combs:Thus creating more of the intrusive thoughts because you're giving them basically attention, right? So like a thought-based compulsion would be like making your brain think about something? what it would be like make trying to convince myself so let's say for instance like let's say i'm walking down the street okay and there's a bunch of cars coming and random thought flies by my mind it's like what if i jumped in front of those cars and jumped out in front of the right people have those thoughts every day everyone in this room has probably had some thought like that today right yeah so for me that a thought like that and it doesn't always do this but in given the right moment, the right state of mind, the right, like all the stars that line up in the shittiest way, you have one of these thoughts and it basically, it basically sends you your mind into like fight or flight mode.

51:59Luke Combs:Like you basically like initiates like an insane, like panic attack moment. And you try, the obsession becomes trying to understand or find an answer for why you had the thought. Totally. And then the other compulsions are trying to not think the thought again. And so giving that much focus to the thought makes your brain send it again because it's basically saying, there's a man with a gun in front of me. I should be afraid of it. Right. And then so it sends the thought again. Right. And you're going, God, you're still really afraid of that. How do I not think of that? and accepting that there's a man in front of you with a gun that might shoot you is the only way to not be worried about the man in front of you with a gun that might shoot you.

52:50Luke Combs:And that's the hard thing to understand when you're in the grips of that thing. I have a huge passion for mental health awareness because it was such a huge part of my life and it affected my life so heavily. You know, there's a lot of passion that I have for talking about it and saying, hey, you know, if you're a young person, because this started for me when I was probably around 13. But I didn't really even know what it was till I was probably 21 or 22. And you were saying that. And you're just going, what is this? What is happening? Why does this happen every once every six months or once every year?

53:28Luke Combs:Like, what is this? Like, I hate this. Like, it's getting worse. How do I get rid of it? You know, like, why is it happening to me? you know? And then basically you, once I figured out what it was, I was able to do a lot of work, some with counselors, some without on my own accord to now be able to like live a really fulfilling, like awesome life. That's basically, I wouldn't say a hundred percent free of that, but 98 to 99 % free of it. If it ever does pop up, I basically got the sword in the sheath that I need to pull out if I ever need to do that. And so one of my biggest passions is letting young people know that that doesn't define you as a person.

54:16Luke Combs:Like that is not ultimately your destiny is to be this person who has mental health struggles or mental illness or whatever it may be. Like that's not the thing that's going to be the definition of your life. It won't be the way that you're remembered. You know what I mean? Like, it's so important for me to like let young people know because I went through so much like stress and grief and all these things like on my own. So I'm an only child too. So it's like, I don't have, there's no brother or sister to like talk to about it. And not that I wouldn't, like my parents were aware that I was struggling.

54:53Luke Combs:And were they supportive? Yeah, very much so. but then also they're you know as a parent now i can imagine they're probably really afraid and scared yeah because at that time like we don't know what it is they're like why is he what is he even talking about well ocd wasn't spoken about ever really like so what i had i had no idea what i had and then my dad because mine was very um uh like uh ritual based and a very um what's the word superstitions based so like if i don't do this this will happen exactly which is like based in what I'm thinking about. Sure, absolutely. And so my dad would be like, well, just stop.

55:28Like, just stop. And it's like, I literally can't, you know. My dad would say that from time to time too.

55:34Luke Combs:And it was all with the best of intentions. Of course. My dad was like, he didn't know what to do. Yeah. So he'd be like, well, damn, someone, you stop thinking about it. Right. And I would go, well, fucking yeah, dude, that would be nice. Yeah. That is the goal of the whole thing. Like that it's interesting that the whole, ultimately what you want to happen is like, you want to get rid of the thoughts. You don't want to have the thoughts anymore, but trying to get rid of them makes them come back. So letting them exist is ultimately the thing that removes all the power that they have over you and saying, you know what?

56:07Luke Combs:I will have these thoughts all the time. And that's just like, who cares? Like you are not like, it's coming, kind of coming to terms with the fact that like you are not your thoughts. Like your thoughts are not physical beings. Exactly. Do you mind if I ask if you're on medication for it at all? I'm not. Oh, wow. I went on medication for it when I was probably 18 for six months. Do you remember what it was? Probably like a generic Zoloft. Yeah, I was just on Prozac. I just switched to Luvox. Because they didn't know. Again, they were like, well, you just have anxiety. It's very different than anxiety.

56:45Very different. It causes anxiety.

56:47Luke Combs:but it is not the anxiety is not the root of the issue. Like basically cognitive behavioral therapy is the only way. What is that? Cause I think I need to do that. Yeah. It's basically like, I don't want to describe it at risk of not being able to describe it properly. No. Well, it's whatever your experience was with it. I haven't done any personally, any CBT stuff, but I know that it involves like a therapist helping you through the tools. Kind of like I was explaining earlier. It's like, okay, well, when the thought occurs, you flip the script on the thought, right? Like, it's like, okay, well, it's like, oh, my God, what if I, all of a sudden, I don't love Jesus anymore?

57:26Luke Combs:And then that sends you into the spiral, and that's your obsession, right? And then it's like, okay, maybe I don't, and that would be okay if I didn't. Okay. It's not needing the answer is, like, the thing that sets you free from the thing. It's like, if this happens. And knowing that you may never get an answer. Because it all kind of revolves around it's questions that can't be answered. Yeah. Is the thing. And even though the bus, jumping in front of the bus example, in theory, could answer that, they don't care about it. They're not afraid of getting hit by the bus. Right. They're afraid of why they're having the thought about jumping in front of the bus and what does that mean about me as a person.

58:12It's kind of like when you're watching a detective murder show and you're like, I could do that. And then you're like, wait, am I a murderer?

58:20Luke Combs:Violent thoughts are one of the top ones that people that have what I have are concerned about. It's horrible. Because it's basically all based in the antithesis of your identity of yourself. So you basically go, okay, well, I feel like I'm a really good guy. And then you have a thought about picking a knife up and throwing it through somebody's head. Right. And then you're like, why would I have that thought? Why did I think that? That must mean that I'm some sort of psychotic murderer or something. A lot of people have relationship-based is another very common one. Like, it would be like, okay, well, what if I don't love my kids?

58:57Luke Combs:Or what if I don't love my significant other? And then they become obsessed with that must mean that I don't love them or something. Even though they do, and that's the only reason they're worried about it is because they do. If you did it, you wouldn't be worried about it. Oh, wow. If you said, I'm worried I don't love my wife. Why are you worried about that? Because you love your wife. That's why you're worried about it. Right. Because not being in love with your wife would then thus give you anxiety or give you this panic-inducing moment. And, again, I'm no therapist, but I've done my 10 ,000 hours figuring it out many times over.

59:30Luke Combs:Right. You know, again, and not that anyone should seek any, you know, therapeutic advice from me. pretty therapeutic for but it's like there are just ways to explain it that sometimes the medical terminology is can be very intimidating for people and trying to understand like what does this mean what are all these big fancy words mean and what is cognitive behavioral therapy i don't that's scary it sounds scary yeah it's like no yeah just call it like getting over it right you know what i mean like there's something that's like relatable to people you know um like the country music version of therapy just like you know but i don't know i i i i feel sad sometimes knowing that there's other kids that went through what i went through yeah but now they have you to listen to and talk and i hope they see it man and i hope that more you know i wish more artists would come out with their whatever their mental health stories are and a lot of them do you know but i wish it was more commonplace because i think seeing someone who has reached a level in you know in the viewer's mind of really high success or someone that they look up to or someone that they admire overcome the very thing that they're struggling with is in and of itself like so powerful i cannot imagine like my favorite quarterback from a kid being like watching a podcast and hear him describe this like i get the most messages after i talk about stuff like this on things because people go i didn't know what i had i'm 20 years old right now and i've never been able to like you know there's no like it's hard to describe and then when you hear someone else say it you're also scary to describe because sometimes those thoughts are like this person's judging me like the person i'm telling is gonna be like this guy just told me he wants to murder people right right and it's like no no no no that's not why i'm scared of that i'm having those thoughts a hundred percent yeah it's a very scary disease it is man it is and it's crippling man you know it really is but if you have it you can get over it if you have any other mental health stuff you can get over it and have a great life just know that period yep do you have any songs that you have written that are about that i i have one that i wrote that's it is yet to be released it's not on the new album either um i wrote it in europe a few years ago with some good good friends of mine it's called breathing underwater is the name of it and uh it's yeah it's kind of about that in a roundabout way you know i mean not really roundabout i mean it's straight at it but there's no like i'm not like hey i have mental illness yeah yeah there's more of a songwriter-y version of that you know what i mean um but yeah man i you know and i think um I don't know that that's the perfect version of that song.

1:02:21Luke Combs:I don't know that I've written the perfect version of that song yet. I really do like that song a lot personally because obviously I can relate 1 ,000 % to it. It's truly like my story, not directly, but my feelings towards those things sometimes. But then again, I think you have to do it in a way that is approachable to others, and I just don't know that I've nailed that yet. Something I would love to do. Yeah. But again, it just takes time. You know what I mean? Of course. But yeah, I have no no opposition to to doing that kind of stuff. Thank you. Booking dot com for sponsoring tonight's episode.

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1:04:21Luke Combs:Listen, I've never said no to a bag of candy. Okay. So, okay. So, I'm going to give you... So, these are a... These are a German candy. They're my favorite candies in the entire world. Okay. So, these are the wild... The squishy wild and free gummies. So, they say, like, Giddy Up Cowboy and stuff. I'm in, dude. You know what I mean? I think you're gonna gag. So I'm gonna grab a couple of these. Okay, and do you want to cheers? Yeah, let's cheers. Okay, but you have to eyes. Eyes. Okay. Yeah, that's a nice texture on those. The bite's good on there. Isn't that fucking fire? Yeah, it's really good, actually.

1:04:57Luke Combs:You're going above and beyond on the packaging. I can only imagine the product is probably quite nice. Have you also noticed my shirt? A little Miller? A little camo shirt? Well, you know, we have the Miller because I've heard that. Well, I've seen a video of you teaching how to shotgun a beer. And I was thinking we could do that here. let's do it to do it right now i'm in let's do it okay i like it basically normally you just pop like you're just gonna pop a hole in the can right is the kind of the idea okay but if you're going pro level you're gonna want to pop the hole in line with the mouthpiece of the can so you get this part on up you want that facing up okay this where the part you would drink out of you want to face them up like that so then when you crack it the beer can't come out of here it can only come out of this oh okay because if you crack it like this it would all just pull out so crack it like so you're gonna want to i go like on and then i tilt and then i crack this okay okay okay so so when we pop it like so this and so this will so like the and then you'll go yeah but physics wise now the air bubble is right here i usually do like this okay and then all you do

1:06:13Luke Combs:okay so you can do fingers it's probably not the best idea to do no i don't think that would be good this is gonna it's always gonna spill to some extent this is the best version of it no no no right no i if it spills that's okay ready roof to the ceiling okay once you're at the ceiling you crack it okay ready yeah one two three

1:06:36Luke Combs:okay

1:06:45Luke Combs:how was it

1:06:50Luke Combs:do you cut dude do you get a little cut or are you good just a gas bubble we got a gas

1:06:58cheers

1:06:59Luke Combs:Cheers. Eyes. We did it. Oh my lord. Yeah that gas bubble will get you dude. Oh my god. I don't know if any win you're out. Shut up. Wow. It wasn't a zero out of ten. I've seen worse. Is your wife good at it? Not, no. Not really, no. Just do it. Just do it. Don't fight it. It's gonna happen whether you want it to or not. it's just gonna happen yeah now you saw the burps you're feeling the burp it's coming so imagine you're doing that you rip one on stage and you're immediately into another song oh wait so for the next song there's a moment every night after i shock on the beer we're in the next song while i'm singing i burp and it's like no one knows that i burp okay question in like a breathing and i'm like is it true you bring somebody up to shotgun a beer with you at your shows usually yeah okay so we're coming to your vegas show we gotta step it up for that we gotta we gotta work on it we gotta get some practice in okay get some reps but we're really oh it's coming i think the burp is you'll know it's gonna be like it's gonna be a full-blown it's not gonna be like a it's gonna just like a deep from the bowels oh my god i'm scared

1:08:29Luke Combs:you just think you just forced like see like carbonated water into your stomach like a rapid rate okay um hold on here's the thing if you stop thinking about it it's almost like the ocd you stop thinking about it and it will happen and you will be done thinking about it and all of a sudden we'll be talking okay anyways yeah yeah are you excited to teach your kids how to sock on a beer when they grow older yeah i don't even know that i'll have to teach them you get them in the right college they'll teach themselves where do you where do you want them to go or i guess you don't care i would love for them to go to appalachian state that's where i went that's again very selfish reason for wanting them to go there is just so like i could go to football games and like like tote around at parents weekend and like watch the game and stuff i mean but how cool would that be that would be very sick you know um but anywhere man also be cool like it'd be really neat to like because I'm I'm like diehard like loyalty guy like I'm I'm Carolina Panthers die hard like till the like if we lose every game for the rest of my life I'm still gonna be wearing the stuff yeah but that also lends into like well I'm not I don't really ever get an opportunity to get new teams into like the lexicon of things that I'm obsessed with so if my child went somewhere else you'd be excited i would then have an excuse to be like insanely devoted to like another thing that i have no association with and that would be a valid reason for doing that totally a little bit yeah you've yet to get one dude i'm feeling for you over there i think i'm scared i think i'm scared and you don't have to be scared man it's it's gonna be good don't force it though it might hurt a little bit you know what i mean okay okay well so now Now is the time in the show.

1:10:18Oh, well, I never asked you what you were therapist about. What are you therapist about today?

1:10:23Luke Combs:I'm pissed about, you know what I'm pissed about? What? The difficulty of weight loss is the thing that I'm pissed about, man. Have you been on a journey? Oh, bro. Yeah. I wouldn't tell, but it's been, man, shoot, dude. I've been gluten-free for two years. I've been.

1:10:43Luke Combs:There you go. There you go. Gluten-free besides beer. and whiskey and stuff. Okay, well. I wouldn't pass any celiac. Can I tell you what helped me with my weight loss? Because I actually recently went on a journey. Sure. I cut out dairy for a bit. Okay. And it really helped me. Besides like Greek yogurt and stuff. Sure, sure. But just, you know, like very cheesy things, very creamy things. Cutting that out is the number one thing. And walking. Yeah. Oh, man, it's been, yeah, for me, it's like I do intermittent fasting every day. So I don't eat till 12 every day. Shut it down by eight. Unless I'm drinking.

1:11:22Luke Combs:You know what I mean? That was the one, dude. That was the full one. I told you it was just going to creep out. Like you're going to forget about it and then you're going to... Creaking out. Yeah. So I'd say the fasting has been really good for me. It's bouncing. Family life. Work life. Of course, yeah. Time. Like, I don't mind working out, man. I don't love it. Like, I'm jealous of people that love it. Or I think they're fucking lying, to be quite honest. But, like, I don't mind doing that. And it's just really slow, dude. It's so slow. Because, like, I don't, there's no shortcuts. Like, I don't want to, like, do the injection thing.

1:12:04Luke Combs:And nothing against anybody that does. It's just not my cup of tea. And it's not my personal preference. So, it's just been, like, it's just painstaking, man. It's like, and again, it comes back to the thing we talked about. Can people really change? Right. I think real change requires like real, real change. Like it's a fundamental change like in every way that I've operated in my, you know, relationship with food, man, for my whole life. I mean, for 33 years, man. Also, though, like people with OCD can get really obsessive about food as well. And then that can make this 10 times more difficult.

1:12:40Luke Combs:It also, like, when you're basically spending 90 % of your day in a state of, like, pure anxiety, sometimes the only escape you have is, like, food and pizza, dude. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, or whatever. And then it becomes, like, this friend that understands you or whatever. I think that, you know, a food addiction is a highly understudied thing. And I think that, you know, my manager, he was really big when we first met. He was, I mean, 400 and something pounds, huge. I mean, he's 6 '4". He was a mountain of a man. And he got gastric bypass surgery because he was getting to the point where he was like, man, this is life-threatening.

1:13:24Luke Combs:And so he got that, and he has the best quote, man, because he's a big advocate of food addiction and how serious it is and people don't understand it. and you know he was like people scoffed at me my whole life of like well i'm addicted to food i have this big issue with food and i was like dude just don't eat just eat less or what you know what i mean and he said food is the only thing that you can be addicted to that you have to have every day so when you quit cigarettes you don't need cigarettes to be alive right don't need alcohol to be alive right but you you can go cold turkey on those things it would be like if you had to do heroin after you were abusing heroin you still had to do it every day wow yeah and so for him he's like it is like basically you have to like barely like you have to figure out how to like suppress your addiction but also eat and still be alive and eat every day and he's like that's the thing that people don't understand it's the only addiction you can't quit also mixing the fact that you're on the road all the time certainly it is so hard to eat on a routine and schedule yeah it's impossible schedule's hard because after a show i'm sure sometimes you're like jacked up on energy and dude after post-show food is after show food is like the most evil invention dude entire we we used to always eat at like 11 p.m when i would do shows and like the amount I got home my mom was like you're hefty so I remember going like my first big tour I was on where I was like opening bus like the big deal like I'm like dude I'm a big rock star like this is cool you know I'm like first to three like nobody cares at all who I am and stuff I'm opening for Brantley Gilbert such a fun tour so much fun I'm first to three so our set is 25 minutes, 20 minutes, playing these big arenas.

1:15:22Luke Combs:Like, hurricanes are kind of starting to crush. Like, the set is on fire, you know? And so we're playing, like, in the whole set, we probably played four or five number ones in 25 minutes. They just weren't number ones yet. Right. So we'd go in, like, end with Hurricane. First song's When It Rains. Then we're playing One Number Away. Then we're playing She Got the Best of Me. And it's all these songs that ended up being huge hits. Beautiful Crazy. 25 seconds. It wasn't written yet at that time. Banger. Banger, though. Banger. Absolutely banger. That note change at the end goes stupid. Are you ever nervous you won't hit it?

1:15:57Luke Combs:All the time. Yeah. Yeah. All the time. I'm nervous about being terrible. Sorry. Sorry I interrupted you. No, no, no. You're good. You're good. But I remember, like, we finished the first night of the tour. Finished the show. Again, we only played 25 minutes, so you don't really even have to, like, do it. Like, it's not hard. Right. You know what I mean? To, like, do 25 minutes. And it's like, I always tell us like, dude, we're not, like, I don't work construction, dude. Like, it's not hard. It can be mentally exhausting at times, but physically and like comparatively to what other people do, like, it's a total cakewalk.

1:16:29Luke Combs:Like anyone that pitches like, oh, you don't know what it's like. I get that mentally it can be taxing, but keep it in perspective. Let's be real about what we're getting to do here. Right. We're not working nine to five. Exactly. I'm not working in the summer sun on the side of the interstate somewhere. You know, and I'm sitting on the bus after the show. Like, I think Brantley's probably playing or just finished playing. And I get this, like, you know, bus is, like, parked on the street. Somebody's, like, knocking on the bus. And there's this guy there. And I'm like, hey. And he has an entire catering tray of Chick-fil-A chicken tenders.

1:17:08And I'm like, what is this?

1:17:10Luke Combs:And he's like, after show food. Like, after show food? What is that? He's like, well, we get it every night. Like, we buy it every night. Like, the tour buys it for you, and then it just shows up every night. And I was like, this is going to be bad, dude. Yeah. Do you like Chick-fil-A? This is not going to be good for me. I like it all, brother. That's the problem, dude. Yeah. You know what I mean? I like it all, dude, you know? And, you know, from salad to fried chicken, dude. It's like there's nothing in there I won't give a shot. Fried chicken and salad? Also fantastic. I got to take you to Jones on 3rd.

1:17:43They have a good fried chicken salad. It sounds fantastic. Best fried chicken salad. I'm gluten-free, though, so fried chicken I'm probably out on. Okay. Now. Right. Has gluten-free helped you? I've been debating it.

1:17:54Luke Combs:I feel like it has. I started doing it for my OCD stuff. My dad, when I was a kid and I used to have temper tantrums, would be like, you cannot have gluten. It makes your mood so much worse. It makes your thoughts so much worse. Is that true? I mean, it has worked for me quite well. Wow. So I would give it a shot. I mean, it can't hurt. I mean, do it for two, three months and see what you think. Right. I mean, maybe it's not for everybody. I don't think there's one answer. I think some of the food stuff is a big answer. And for you, it may not be gluten. It may be seed oils or something. You know what I mean?

1:18:31Luke Combs:Something for everybody. I went and did a food panel is what I did. It was basically they did a blood draw and they tested against hundreds of different ingredients. and the results are like my number one thing was basically like any and all grains and gluten were all in the red. But you can't cut out grains. You can though. I love rice so much. No, no, no. Rice was not rice. Rice wasn't on there. Mine was like oats, barley, gluten, wheat. Excuse me. The shotgun's still coming back. But it was it was on my other two wild cards. So all grains, apples. Wow. And goat cheese. Goat cheese is how you understand, you know, apple sheets and apple a day.

1:19:23Luke Combs:So my doctor, when we were, cause I was really, really, it all started with, let's get my, like, let's get this OCD thing. Like dialed in, do everything we can do to keep it at bay. And, you know, outside of the tools we already have. And so we did the food panel. my doctor suggested that uh and that went really really well and so then from there me and my doctor started talking about so i always wanted to lose weight i always had trouble losing weight i don't understand why i can't lose weight and she goes i've always been kind of bigger myself and she the thing that helped me is i did this food panel thing and she said one of my biggest inflammation causing foods was kale.

1:20:05Luke Combs:She was like, I was eating kale in my smoothies every single day because I'm like, kale is healthy. It's, it's so individualized person to person. So like, even though a food is quote unquote considered healthy and it is right. It's very like subjective, right? It's sure it has lots of vitamins in it. We can all agree that healthy food is healthy, but healthy food is not healthy for every single person. And just because something is healthy doesn't mean your body responds well to it. Like if, like if strawberries caused you inflammation, you have crazy inflammation and you're like, well, I don't understand.

1:20:43Luke Combs:I'm eating strawberries every day. And then you find out, well, your body doesn't respond well to eating strawberries. So it's a food you should avoid in general. I should do a food panel. Should do a food panel. Louise, could you do it with me? Yes, I've been looking at it all day. Okay, so let's. yeah let's do it it's really great i mean it really did and it's really helped the ocd okay a lot okay really a lot a lot meds can only do so much i'm on them but they can only do so and the reason that it helps is these inflammation causing foods or whatever and again i think that's subjective as well like what foods cause inflammation i think we can agree there's certain ones that cause more than others but individually speaking your response to this may be the same as your response to this.

1:21:25Luke Combs:Totally. It's food that quote unquote doesn't cause inflammation and may cause inflammation for you. Right. Right. It's so, I feel like healthcare should be so personalized and I feel like it's really generalized. It's like, that's kind of an issue that we have and that's, you know, it's tough. What do you think causes the issue of healthcare being generalized as opposed to personalized? Oh my gosh. I have no idea. Right. I mean, I got no idea. Right. I mean, that's like asking me some math question. Have you ever seen the video of Jojo Siwa outside of Craig's? Have you seen that video? No. Oh my God, Jojo.

1:21:58You've never seen this fucking video? Okay, anyway, whatever you guys.

1:22:06Well, it's time we get into the tell me what's wrongs. Okay. My sister is getting married and I'm her maid of honor. One of her bridesmaids, who I hate, is getting mad at my sister for planning her wedding before hers. she's a total narcissist and is accusing my sister of trying to one up her I want to punch her but fear my involvement will only make it worse what should I do

1:22:30Luke Combs:friends out your friend oh you think no more bridesmaid for the friend no more friend I think so too a friend doesn't do that by the way so not a friend ultimately someone that you want to be friends with or it's a one-sided friendship. Out. Right. That's crazy. Gone, friend. That's narcissistic. Oh my God, this is about OCD. I have a really tough time explaining my OCD to people. It's even more educated people who know it's not just, so you're like really clean. I feel so crazy sometimes and can tell I'm annoying the people around me even though I'm really not trying to. I'm working on my OCD as I go through life, but what are good ways to give context to my behaviors without just saying OCD?

1:23:16Luke Combs:I think that's interesting. I don't think it's your responsibility to have to justify what you're going through to anyone else. First and foremost, I don't think it's your responsibility to explain things or it's not your fault if someone doesn't fully understand. I think you have to stay on your journey of healing yourself and getting better and adapting, you know, to the cards that you were dealt. And to some extent, it is that ultimately it's like you do have OCD and that is what it is. And it's not a stigma thing. It's not bad. Like, I don't think that it's your responsibility to explain it to other people.

1:23:56And nobody should be pressuring you to like justify it or describe it.

1:24:02Luke Combs:that you have enough going on if you have OCD. You shouldn't have to fill people in on what is it. Pop in the endless internet in your phone and figure it out. If you can't figure it out, why ask me? You are not an expert on OCD, nor do you have to be. You know what I mean? You should just focus on getting the help you need. If somebody else needs context, that's their problem, to be quite frank with you, I think. Do you ever use chat GBT? Bro, all the time. Okay, do you know that's really bad for OCD? In what way? Like, I don't know. I saw an article about it once, but at least from what I'm understanding is that you can find reason in anything, right?

1:24:52So like the AI. It's interesting you say this. So like the AI, you'll be like, I am sneezing. I literally have a video about this. I'm sneezing and my arm hurts. And ChatGBT will be like, actually, that's because sneezing and your arm hurting, it will just find anything because it knows everything.

1:25:12Luke Combs:Sure. And, you know, it's funny. I've thought this a time or two when I've used it. I'm like, man, this could be really scary for like someone with my particular form of OCD. it could be a very deep rabbit hole to come out of. But I have used it as a tool in my OCD as well. Right. Because there are these methods of thought that I use from time to time when I'm struggling or when I'm like, it's like, well, okay, so you have to identify the reason for the thought, right? It's hard to kind of try to explain. but like to have this unanswerable question you have to be of course again okay with the not knowing the answer right right so i was having some ocd based around like i was like i wanted to like touch my elbow or like whatever right and i was particularly struggling with like why am i worried about this and why like i so in my mind i'm trying to i'm trying to do the thing I normally do of like, like getting boiling it down to my reasons.

1:26:19Luke Combs:And so I got curious about this. This was earlier in 20, January 25. I was kind of having a little bit of a flare up and I couldn't really come up with the, like the conclusion that I needed. I felt like to get to the place I needed to be to like quill the thoughts coming in. So I popped it into GPT and I'm like, hey, I'm trying to do this based around having pure OCD. I'm not looking for any, like, reassurance. Like, I'm not, like, this is not me, like, seeking relief from my anxiety. It's me going, help me explain, basically, to myself the thought process of getting from here to here. Right.

1:27:06Luke Combs:Because I'm looking for, it's kind of hard to explain. It's deep OCD stuff, but it's like I needed to know, like, well, okay, so I'm not worried about, I'm worried about the, like, the need to, like, touch my elbow or whatever. And I'm almost worried about, like, why do I want to do that? Right. And, like, one, like, help me get to an answer. And it's like, this is this thing. And then I went, oh. Okay, so, yeah, it can be helpful as well. This is the thing. like so then I was able to immediately like put it in the place in the like get well library that it needed to be to like complete the equation of like getting okay I see how that could it wasn't like me going like please tell me I'm a good guy like yeah that could be really bad right for sure and you should not do that right for sure I was on a double date at the bar with my best friend and our partners one thing led to another and my best friend got very drunk and aggressive He was being crazy and I was trying to calm him down and he, and he socked me in the face and started this embarrassing bar fight.

1:28:09I've known him for 15 years and nothing this intense has literally ever happened. My partner hates him now, obviously, and refuses to hang out with him. I don't really have a question besides how do I navigate this situation?

1:28:22Luke Combs:Um, I would say that not all friendships are meant to last forever. You think, but do you think like one situation like that can cut it? I think it's not always. I think sometimes. I think it's time to have a serious conversation with this person and go, what the fuck are you doing, bro? You hit me in the face in public. Have you ever been in a bar fight? Never in a bar. I've been in some fights, but never in a bar. Even though I was a bouncer. It was my job to kind of make sure the fights didn't happen. Would you pull people off of each other? Oh, certainly. Certainly. Did you ever see a girl be like, stop?

1:29:00Luke Combs:Oh. Yeah, dude, that happened every night. That was like an every night occurrence, man. College bar, like, tensions are high in there. This back to the friend thing, like, you got to have, this is a serious conversation. Right. There's like, there's apologies owed to people. There was maybe drugs were maybe involved. Certainly. Maybe. Also not an excuse, by the way. No, of course not, but I'm just saying. But yes, like, yeah, you got to have, that's serious, you got to have, it's a grown man shit right there, dude. Like, it's time to, somebody's got to own up to something there. Yeah. My Uber driver low-key admitted to manslaughter while he was driving me to a party.

1:29:36I'm so unconfrontational that I just smiled and waved. I don't want to give any details, but maybe I should report this. It was an automobile accident, and it seems like he totally got away with it. I'm not worried I'm in danger, but do I do anything with this information?

1:29:51Luke Combs:That is a highly nuanced situation there. It's kind of giving I-know-what-you-did-last-summer vibes. Yeah, is it like... I feel like I would need a lot more detail on what's going on there. Was he like, man... Well, you studied homicide stuff. Yeah, but I want to be like, did he say he hit a guy and got away with it because he was exonerated from the thing or was found innocent? Right. There's a lot of different ways to interpret that saying. If he was like, yeah, I hit this guy in my car and drove off and nobody knows about it, that's a fucking different story. Right. But there could be... You could, in theory, say, oh...

1:30:30Luke Combs:I don't know if you can really get away with manslaughter. Because manslaughter in and of itself is kind of like... Oh, my God. Sometimes accidental. Okay, right. Yes, you've studied this. Yeah, it's like... Yes. Getting away with it is an interesting thing. You can get away with murder, in theory. But that seems like that's what you would say in the question. If the guy was like, getting away with manslaughter is such a specific thing. What is manslaughter? Manslaughter is kind of, it's again, it's like kind of nuanced. Like in its state, it can be state to state. Okay. Like some states, what's first to be murder and the other states would be manslaughter.

1:31:10Luke Combs:But what's the, like, what is that? I would say that like mans, like there's involuntary manslaughter. There's voluntary manslaughter, which voluntary manslaughter would be like, I did something inherently dangerous. And I knew that it could result in someone dying. Totally. And I did it anyways and somebody died. Right. It wasn't like you set out and said, I'm fucking killing this guy. Right. It wasn't that thing. That's murder. Yes. And then involuntary manslaughter would be, I did this thing that like is normally a socially acceptable normal behavior and it resulted in someone dying and I am at fault for that person's death.

1:31:46Luke Combs:Okay. So like it's almost too vague of a question to answer. I would, you know, hesitate. Yeah. Why don't you just go to the cops? Be like Steve that drives a Hyundai Elantra. Yeah, just let me know. He's a manslaughter. Just let them know, I guess. One-star review immediately. Maybe report a pop at the Uber. Of course. Maybe somebody working for them is bragging about potentially killing somebody. That, I would think, would be of concern to them. Do you have, like, okay, so you said you watch Stranger Things, but do you like detective television shows and stuff? I do. Like, True Detectives. True Detective season one, all time.

1:32:26Luke Combs:All time. I mean, honestly, what is it? Season three? Season three was good. Season two was not good. Season two I didn't like. Season three I liked. Season three was a lot better than season two. And nothing will ever touch season one. I mean, season one is the same. Okay, what about Sinners with Bill Pullman? I haven't seen it. What? I have to see it. Oh, my God. It is the, oh, my God. You think I would love it? Love. Have you seen, it's the Sinner, not Sinner, sorry. It's the Sinner. it is outstanding I promise you if you like True Detective season 1 I like almost everything what's it streaming it was on the center yeah it's on Netflix it was like a mini series there's three seasons they're all good but season 1 is the best did you watch Task nope you would love Task I gotta get up Dude, my dad time is short.

1:33:25Luke Combs:Okay, right, right. You know what I mean? I don't get many couch. You watch All Her Fault? Nope. You would also like All Her Fault. Okay. All Her Fault is very... You have to send me a list. I will say, I watch everything. The Beast in Me is great. If you watch that. You ever do Homeland? I did Homeland. I did Homeland. It's good. It's good. Great. I did Homeland, yes. But I got to get... I'm glad you're... I feel like you're giving me some stuff here. Oh. You know what I mean? Would you ever watch something with subtitles? I love watching subtitles. German show called Dark on Netflix? Seen it.

1:33:56It's great. Great. No, you haven't. I've seen it. It's great. How amazing is that show? Very good. Highly recommended. It makes you think about life in the most insane way. Like, I did a rewatch. It was really good.

1:34:07Luke Combs:It's really, really. Have you ever seen it, Louise? You gotta give it a go. It's amazing. It's German, right? Yeah, it's German. It's German show. It was a German Netflix deal, and it was so well received. They brought it to the States. Yeah, I felt like I learned German from it. Danke. Okay, wild. Okay, wild. do you like would you rather watch original language with subtitles or the weird dubbed over English I would I think people who watch dubbed over English are like borderline sociopathic it bugs me to no end because I'm like but you're that's not their mouths are like but it's also like you're not watching the show you're not you're not watching the show that's not the acting they're not acting that is people that's not real that is not real right yeah it's like I can't do it Because they don't, it's not like they're, it's not like they're hiring.

1:34:56Luke Combs:Right. DiCaprio to revoice the guy. Of course, of course. It's like your buddy from high school. They like called him in. They're like, hey, you mind reading a couple sentences for this thing? And he's like, yeah, I think I got stabbed by that guy. And then it's like, and I'm like, this guy doesn't even know how to voice act. They found this guy on the street. Yeah, it's horrendous. It's pretty fucking horrendous. It is. I can't do it. My friends can do it, but I can't. Ooh, my mother and father-in-law are too overbearing. My husband is their only son, so they're just so involved in our lives, planning our trips for us, hosting events like every other day.

1:35:34Oh, my God. And guilting us to come almost every time, et cetera, to the point where it feels like they're making big decisions for us and always giving us unsolicited advice. But it's super hard to be annoyed because they're also so nice and helpful. What do I do?

1:35:47Luke Combs:Man, you got to talk to your old man, dude. He's got like, he got to like, I don't know, man. There comes a time. How old are these folks? Do we know? We don't know. It's anonymous. Assuming you're adult-ish. Right. Like, I don't know if maybe if you're 19, I can maybe understand that a little bit more. Right. But if you're in your 30s, we're getting to being a problem, I would think. And if you break up, you know what to listen to. For sure. For sure. When it rains, it pours. You know? It's, yeah, that's a toughie, dude. I feel like it's like tell the list tell the pussies out there give us a little more details yes Luke I always ask for more context like I need more context how old are you do you live in the same town no we don't know we can't help you I can't help if we want some real answers you know what I mean but I think you gotta like you gotta like tell like is it they married it's unclear unclear yeah we gotta tell hubby perspective hubby whatever like come on bro right tell your parents It's like you kind of let me live my life a little bit.

1:36:52Luke Combs:For sure. And also, sometimes I do think that... Oh my God, you haven't seen The Girlfriend on Amazon, have you? No. Okay, well, sometimes parents are really weird with their kids. That is true. That is very true. I work for my girlfriend's dad and we recently just got... Yeah, already. And we recently just got into a relationship-ending fight at their dinner table because we ended up arguing about how we wanted different things in life. Oh, brutal. That's like a movie, dude. That's horrible. I know. Okay, so you're out of the relationship? Well, unclear yet. The bad part is her entire family was present for it.

1:37:35It's been a week, and I haven't heard anything from her or her dad. I'm so scared to go into work, and if I do, what can I say or do to keep that job? It's over.

1:37:44Luke Combs:That is the end, dude. Like, you are not. I feel for that guy, though. You're never coming back from that, dude. You broke up with your girlfriend at her parents' dinner table in front of her whole family at what I'm assuming is the holidays. Yeah. Quit your job and just, it's time to start over, bro. Right. Wow. Even if you come back from it, it will be brought up every single time that you see them. And listen, do what you want to do. Maybe this is your person. Maybe you made a mistake. But you can't have that underlying anxiety of if I get in a fight with them, I will also lose my job because that will take hold of the entire relationship.

1:38:24Luke Combs:But you asked me, or you asked Jake, and Jake asked me, it's over, bro. Yeah. It's the end. Do you have a good breakup song of yours you'd like to prescribe? I would prescribe, I would probably prescribe some Merle Haggard for that one. I don't know if I have anything. Okay. You know, it's time for, you know, it's time for growing up and moving on. Travis Meadows, learning how to live alone, would go ahead and get that one going. Right. Or when it rains, it pours. We all, hey, we all choose sides when the ship goes down. Okay? So just be on your side and let them be on their side. Some things are better left at the bottom of the ocean somewhere.

1:39:10You know what I mean? What type of, do you only listen to country music or do you listen to other stuff as well?

1:39:15Luke Combs:Everything. I'm a huge hip hop guy. I love hip hop. I really have always loved hip hop. I really crave like authenticity and whatever music that I'm listening to. It doesn't have to be something I can even relate to, man. Like I just have to like, I don't know. You just, I think there's something subconsciously in music. Like as fans, we know when something is authentic or not. even if we don't know we know that. Yeah, couldn't feel that. Like, the artists that you gravitate towards, that are around for a long time. Obviously, there's a lot of one-hit wonders or people that have one or two songs that do well and make a great career out of that.

1:39:54Luke Combs:But the artists, you know, the Bruce Springsteens of the world, like, people are gravitating towards that because there's an innate authenticity to it. Right. That they don't even realize that they realize, you know. So, and so whatever music that I'm loving, I usually gravitate towards stuff like that. It's not, of course, not exclusively that, you know, like I get down with Backstreet Boys, dude. You ever listen to Summer Walker? Mm-mm. I think you'd like her. Okay. She's great. R &B. I love R &B. Besides you that I've been listening to this week, have you, do you listen to Summer? I'm sick for her right now.

1:40:32I'm sick. I'll listen to it.

1:40:34Luke Combs:I'll listen to it today. Yeah. Well, Luke, I'm like so sad you're leaving. Oh, my God, man. I had a great time, dude. Well, yeah, I'm going to see you again at your concert. Yep. Come on. I'm going to. Uh-huh. Redo the shotgun, hopefully. Yeah, hopefully. Yep. Yep. Well, what did we learn today? I feel like we learned a lot, you know? I feel like we learned a lot about, you know, OCD. We learned a lot about - Shotgunning. Shotgunning beers. We learned a lot about - I feel like we gave some pretty heavy life advice to some random people. pool there's a lot going on in here today yeah um but i enjoyed it man thanks for having me dude thank you so much for being here absolutely i'm gonna really try to end my crash out right here right now with you yep let's do it this is it it's done so thank you for coming on the show adios pussies

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