Session 111: Maddie Ziegler

30:25Were you exhausted? I was thriving. Did you feel like back in your element? I'm toxic like that. But did you feel like back in your element? 100%. I mean, I was exhausted, but I also was like, I live for this, like getting sore and like my body kind of giving out. I was like, I love it. It just brought me back to my dance training. And I'm just kind of a psycho when it comes to that. Cause I was like, I want to do everything I can, you know, like I want to do as much dancing. I did almost all of my dancing and almost all of my stunt stuff. Like I was like, I want to do it all. I couldn't jump out of a building while it lit on fire, but like, you know.

30:59Did you get to see your stunt double do that? Yeah, it was crazy. I have like the video on my phone. It's ridiculous. Wait, that's so insane. I know, it was crazy. They're amazing. And they legitimately lit the building on fire. Yeah, and they jumped out onto cardboard boxes. They landed on cardboard boxes. Is that like a one take type of thing? Yeah, one take. Because then the building burns. It didn't burn, but, oh, that's a good point. Did they get it in one take? It was there. The building was still standing. Okay, great. Yeah. It was just a quick, like, pyro, like. Well, the movie's fantastic.

31:30I'm so happy for you. Thank you. I feel like. I'm so happy for you. I, like, I've been such a fan of you for so long. And I've watched, like, every episode of the show. Oh, well. I've been watching you forever. Aw. And my best friend, Julia, tried to fly out for this. No, she didn't. Yes, she did. Is she in, where is she? She's in New York. Oh, let's hang out with her. Is she? Because you know. Wait, why does she like me? You are her North Star. What? She was a dancer. Oh, okay. And she was like, you're her North Star. Like, she was like, Maddie Ziegler is my North Star. Really? Yes. That's so sweet.

32:02She was like, I'm going to fly out. She couldn't because of work, but she was like, I'm. Oh, she's going to ship bricks. Really? Wait, give me my phone. There's way cooler people in the world. Watch her reaction. She says, I don't even think she knows you're here. Hi, I have a question. Yeah. Hey. Oh, no, no, no, no. We're hanging out. We're going to hang out in New York. No, Maddie, this isn't funny. Seriously. You are my Roman Empire. I told her. I told her. You don't understand. You are the figure of my life. This is not funny. You have made my entire life. Julia says, Julia's one line about you is, you can't take your eyes off her.

32:43Stop. Stop. No, I'm literally so obsessed with you. This is literally not funny. Wait, we're going to go to dinner in New York. I'm going to New York tonight. She's coming. Can I please come? Seriously. No, we're going together. Yes, we're going to make plans for this weekend. Hi, I'm a sweet girl. This is making me feel so special. Thank you. Tears in my eyes. I told you. I can't even believe this. You know, she used to have us, for pastime when Julia was bored, she would have us sit down and put on your, like, L.A. Playhouse videos and just look at us and say, you can't take your eyes off of her, can you?

33:16Huh? I'm so obsessed with you. Stop it. You're literally the best dancer I've ever seen in my life. Stop it. Stop it. Okay, so let me know where dinner is and I will be there. I'm so excited. You have made my entire day. I told you I wasn't kidding. No, I believe, like, I believe that you. He's probably underselling it and I'm sorry if you think I'm a freak. Like, I actually. I do not think you're a freak. I'm not that weird. Bring back people actually, like, complimenting us. Like, or being like. I agree. I hate when people are, like, pretend like they don't know other people. I'm like, I will be the first person to go up and be like, I'm a fan of you.

33:47Yes. I mean, that's my shtick. that's literally my stick that makes people feel special like you that's really you are her north that just like made my day really yeah by the way a lot of people have been to this house julia's never reacted that way that's crazy she's not even here so yeah that's really nice i love that yeah let's do it okay so maddie what are you therapist about today um it can really be the most benign thing it really like i'm mad that it's so fucking hot in here but I'm mad about it. That's why I laughed because that's what I was going to say and I was like I can't really say that it's kind of disrespectful.

34:22Yes you can I'm so mad about it we've been dealing with this for almost three years now it just how was it not oh it's always hot in here. Is there like a no it's never this hot. Is there like a silent it's a heat wave. The room isn't getting cold and I'm a cold sleeper. I what do you sleep at? 62. Do you really? 62. Where have you been all my life? 62. Cheers. Wow I've never met another 62-er. Yeah. Oh my God. No, I'm not even kidding. Louise sleeps at like 80. First of all, you would die. 70, I would have a panic attack. Oh, for sure. I would have a legitimate panic attack. If I'm, yeah, I just, it's 62 or nothing.

35:02Not to sound out of touch, but the hotel life like really took a toll on me mentally. For sure. I think, I mean, for someone. Something funny? No, no. I think for me, I feel like it's definitely, I like to create like the best environment for my home. Like I, you know, like I'm, that's why I love being home. Cause my home is my favorite place in the world. Cause I've made it like my sanctuary. So like not being in your space with all of your things and like just access to the things that matter the most to you. Like that does take a toll on you. I don't know what, why my OCD had something to do with it.

35:37because like I said, I wasn't in the right therapy, but I know that my OCD does have something to do with the fact that I have a hard time organizing and keeping things organized. And like living out of a suitcase is hard for anyone, but I know specifically for me, there is something that was there and I'm going to, I'm going to ask my new therapist about it. You should. I'm a neat freak. I'm, are you really? I'm so jealous of you. My house is spotless. Everything is organized. Every, if you ever need help, like I literally offer myself to people to be like if you need help organizing like I will come over and do it it's like my favorite thing to do in the world be careful what you put out there because I will take you up and I'm the least organized person on the planet oh because I'm a hoarder I take I think everything is so sentimental and I want to save everything that's how my sister is she's a really I get it my grandma is the same way it drives me insane yeah but I but if you're happy I'm not oh well then I don't know yeah I gotta figure it out nope therapy and we're starting and we're new.

36:33We love her. I love her. I forget her name. And that's, by the way, that's a great sign. Well, you still haven't cut things off fully with your other. No, I'm going to send her a text and I feel comfortable saying like, I needed someone that specialized in like OCD specific stuff. 100%. Because it is just. It's rough in the street. It's rough in my head. Are you like a fan of the Inside Out movies? Yes. Those movies. The second movie, it changed my life. I couldn't believe how much I sobbed during that movie. I've never felt so seen in my life. All I thought about was like, I'm so jealous that like these kids get to be like, oh my God, that's so normal that I feel that way.

37:09One thousand percent. You know what I mean? Like that's so normal. Riley has it. She thinks it. Look at anxiety. Riley. No, it is the best movie. And I think, do they teach it or do they play it in schools? Because I totally. I think they will if they don't. I think they absolutely have to. The way they described the panic attack and like when the new set, when you hit teenager and when you hit teenager, when you become a teenager. it's just okay so when you put it simply yeah and like you're like oh anxiety really is like they are just trying to help and like you're like okay like you shouldn't hate it you should like welcome it i know that's the hardest thing pixar really just eats down like oh they do who is running pixar but they pick the best project they really do you should like voice over something oh god i don't know i think my voice has been heard by enough folk for no i love your voice do you really yeah you have a really fun speaking pattern thank thank you listening back to like my own voice on a weekly basis to edit my show oh i'm sure you hate the most insufferable thing on planet earth nolan godspeed to you i mean i don't know who like well actually quite a lot of people like their voice but i'm like i just feel like that's like a red flag if you like your voice yeah that's weird i think it's more never met anyone that's like i love the sound of my own voice and there definitely are people in the world that like yes i mean i mean and good for them but i don't know if that's someone i'd want to surround myself yeah no would you do you like the sound of your own voice no but it's so funny okay no one do you like your own voice i don't i don't like my laugh but i don't think about no what were you gonna say it's so funny you say that i was at sephora yesterday checking out and the girl was like oh my god i'm obsessed with your voice oh that's the best compliment though i did i have had someone tell me that they love my voice i I love your voice.

38:59And I'm like, I have done voiceovers. My voice is so like generic. No, you have a very like cunty voice. Oh, period. Like it's, you know what I mean? Totally. It's giving like IDGAF. See, we're our own biggest critic. Oh, for sure. I'm like so mean to myself. Same. I have the worst negative self-talk. Yeah. I was like social media, like it was actually rotting me in a really crazy way and giving me so much anxiety. God, it's just hard because it's my job. I know. And I do love it. I know. And I never want to. And you're so good at it. And I love connecting with people on it. 100%. And like when that feeling of making people laugh and like people being like, I just LOL'd so hard.

39:37It's addicting. Or being like, you just made me laugh so hard. Like I love like creating a community, but when it gets bad, it's horrible. 100%. It's horrible. But you can dictate that. You know, like you, there's just, there's really positive places of the internet. And I think it's just like trying to like, it's hard when we're being fed so much negative talk, but your videos are like, that's the one thing I miss from TikTok is your videos. Oh, thanks. I don't do the skits anymore. So you're not missing out. Oh, really? Yeah. I, they're so good. Oh, thank you. The Mona Lisa one will forever go down as my favorite video.

40:11The vaping where I'm vaping? No, it's the one where something about Mona Lisa, like check, like the, I don't know if it was. Was it the crowd control one? It was the one where you're talking about like getting the photo or checking the photo. I don't know if it was like. Oh, and he's like, can I pick select? Yes, yes. I said that? That one actually like I would watch that and reference that. Also, I'm sorry to bring this up. But this morning, my makeup artist and best friend, Tanya, she was, she hasn't really seen your show. And I was like, let me just like play you a funny clip. And I just immediately went to the edge.

40:45Oh my God. No, that's. And she was dying laughing. That's the best one. But it's iconic. That's the best one. She was like, I'm never. She didn't know that about, obviously, that he wrote that for that reason. And she was like, I will never look at that song and say. Well, who will play? He set you up. He set me up. He said the most memeable lyric is the one about my dead grandma. Saying memeable lyric? Of course you're going to laugh. That's funny. Yeah, I know. Because I was thinking about all the really funny memes about it. Like, you've all seen. We've all seen them. Okay, I'm going to go pee really quickly before we get to the Tell Me What's Wrongs.

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42:23Sorry. I know. I'm so sorry. You had such a hard year last year, but it's really like awesome to see you like, like physically and mentally glowing. And after like you, I didn't know you went through a hard year. Yeah. And you're saying like, it was like one of the hardest of your life and you're like literally like, and I'm glowing and, and that happened and I've, I've moved on. Thank you. Yeah. I learned a lot from it and it taught me a lot of patience and I'm just trying to like move forward and continue. Patience is a hard thing to learn. It's the hardest thing in the world. I have not mastered it.

42:55I have not learned it. I mean same. I'm still. I'm on beginners. Yeah same. Well I'm like I'm like intermediate level now. How do you what like is there a practice you use to like find patience? Honestly just like I try to not in a unhealthy way distract myself but like put my energy into other things. That's yeah. I think that's what she always encourages me to do. That's the hardest thing. Just sort of staying on one topic and just overplaying it and thinking of all. You know, it's just like, that's doing nothing. Going in circles is doing nothing for you. That's what I have. Fuck, it is so hot in here.

43:29I am so sorry. I'm keeping you captive like the Bulgarian men in the movie. I'm literally holding you captive. You know what I'm obsessed with about the movie? Yeah, tell me. it's like a real true early 2000s we needed this we needed this for sure i need it's so fun and i love that we're we're playing into exactly what it is you know yes and you're so good in it yeah it is so cunty what i mean i'm not spoiling i mean it'll be out there's a dance number there's a dance number it is so fabulous and cunty thank you five six seven eight like it is yeah that's a fun moment. Thank you for watching it.

44:07That is so nice of you. Like you did not have to do that. Imagine I'm here. I'm like, so I didn't watch your movie. I mean, there's no way you can watch everything. Yeah, that is true. But I genuinely was super happy to watch it. It like let my mind at ease last night. Thank you. I had such, I was able to, that's my favorite thing about movies and television. You transport. I transport. That's why I like TV so much because I can transport into a world. A hundred percent. Like a completely new and separate world. Um, so I think my next one that I'm going to take on is Schitt's Creek. Yeah. So do you want to get into the tell me what's wrong?

44:38I do. So you're not like, I won't like leave you here stranded, sweating. I'm literally fine. I don't know if you know, but we can prescribe things. So like if someone comes in and is like, I'm traveling abroad with my friends and we're in a creepy Bulgarian hotel, I'd be like, well, I prescribed you pretty lethal. Yeah. A hundred percent. And I'm also a ballerina. Well, I prescribed you pretty lethal. Did you quickly before we get into these, did you watch any like, did you watch like any black swans? Yeah. All the things. But like, honestly, Kill Bill was a huge reference for us. And that was prior to Uma coming onto the project.

45:07Was it really? Yeah. How cool is that? Oh, it was absurd. Like, we landed and I found out and I was like, you are not going to, like, I was telling the girls, I was like, you're not going to believe, you're not going to believe. And they were like, who? And I was like, guess. And they were, I was, they couldn't, they were trying to think. And I was like, our reference. And they were like, it is not Uma. That's such a, that's such a kismet moment. It is. And she, which, I mean, she's the most unbelievably, like, kind, smart, just regal woman. And she was, like, I remember her saying, like, this is, like, some of the most fun she's had since Kill Bill.

45:41Oh, that's awesome. And you know she means that shit. 100%. Like, she's very authentic. Did you learn anything from her? I think just, like, her stillness and her calm, like, energy. And she also had to learn that crazy accent. Like, she was in, like, a full, like. Was she, like, this is hard for me? or was she like this is my job this is work I'm gonna do it she never made it look hard yeah I don't know if that's how she felt but she did it with ease why she's like one of the greatest like and she's a model so tall drop dead do you ever find yourself in situations where you're getting advice from someone like that and you're like wow I can't believe I can't believe I'm getting advice from someone like you right now and that's when you know like I gotta take this 100 because I'll get advice from someone and I'll say it to Louise and she'll be like I literally told you that and I'm like right but but it doesn't it's not Uma Thurman telling me that like all due respect it's true though I I think also the us being like you know you want to hear you really digest it and want to hear it from people who have literally lived all of the experiences like it just hits on a different level are you watching love story I haven't watched it yet should I watch it Sarah Pigeon in it I just she's so beautiful no the blonde you know she photoshopped blonde hair i heard that shot for the audition i'm gonna do that in the future i mean she like she's just like god it's so she played it she's i mean i don't i think she did i think she's done an incredible job great i think she's intoxicating to watch like yeah like intoxicate you can't take your eyes off of her i love that get her on the pod i wish i wish she's she's also so cool i i got to meet her the other day and she's just just as chic and fucking awesome in person and so beautiful yeah like naturally beautiful you'll love the show i think i really like the show it's cool it's cool seeing like um i feel like we were on 2000s nostalgia for so long and i think we're on to 90s i love i think that's what we're i wish i was born in the 90s you say that now and while i agree actually i think you're probably right when were you born the 1999 so i'm a 2000s baby as well I would say but um I I want to say I I but I wouldn't have the job I have that's true if I was born then I wouldn't have had like the second chance I got you know what I mean because like I could have pursued as you said like I you chose not to do what the fuck Billy Billy Elliot Billy I chose not to do theater as a kid and I always regretted it and then like TikTok kind of gave me this lane back in that I never would have thought you're doing everything but I really like TikTok was the way in.

48:17TikTok was the only reason I'm sitting here. You are TikTok. Thank you. I don't feel like I am, but thank you. I've been in love with my situationship for a year and a half and he recently admitted to me that he feels the same and wants a future. Obsessed. The only problem is all of my friends genuinely hate him. And I get why because we have been a little toxic. On and off again. We use each other as a crutch, etc. How do I either get them off my back or explain that it's going to be okay. Well, it's not going to be okay. It's not going to be okay. I prescribe tell me lies. You think? Have you ever been in like a situation ship?

48:53I've always said I've wanted a situation ship and the second I get close to one, I'm like, this feels like death. I feel like it either ends good or bad. There's no in between. And being in the in between phase is just a no-go. Also, like, yeah, if you're admitting that you're toxic in this situation is toxic. the sex must be amazing though for sure like dick can do anything it's legit a wand like it is it is it's a fucking wand but it's like yeah whatever so you so you prescribe tell me lives well just tell me lies just to like unfortunately it's just like that's well i mean i never finished tell me lies and i need to because iris is in season three and I really want to watch it.

49:40Yeah, she's great in it. I heard Steven just like. Oh, he just goes off. I've heard he becomes like, you can't even say he's hot. Like it's like legitimately indefensible. I've never liked him. I've never had a moment where I've liked him. What's his situation again? Like his home life. Like he has like a bad like. Oh, yeah, he's bad. He's bad. And apparently in season three. Great actor, but. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently in season three, it's like to the point of like, for real. Yeah. But he does have this hilarious moment on the very end of the show that is just like, it's so funny. Like he goes off.

50:12Really? And it's, I was laughing. So how does it end?

50:20I just, wait, do you see the chills on my arms? Like after, and he goes. I'm going to be sick. Yeah. My mom is constantly depending on me to be her safe space to bitch about my sister and her husband. and most of the time I'm just not in the mood to hear the negativity. When I try to put up a boundary and say, I just don't really want to talk about this, she gets all pissy, it's pushing me away from her, and then I feel guilty because she doesn't have anyone to talk to. Honestly, I understand that. Not that my parents do that in that same situation, but parents are going to go to their kids and be like, it's hard.

50:51It is hard. It's also hard when it's like, this is something that I've really, just through years of, whether it be other people's experiences or whatnot, at the end of the day, you are still the kid, even if you, you know, like. Yeah. It's hard to, like, feel that way, though. Sometimes I'm like, oh, I feel bad. I know. Because it's also that cliche of, like, you grew up and you're like, wow. Now I'm supposed to. Yeah, and parents are experiencing life for the first time, too. That's what I always say, yeah. It is a hard thing. And they don't have everything figured out. And, like, they feel safe enough to want to confide in you and whatever.

51:28But that's a slippery slope. Yeah, I don't know what I would prescribe for that. A therapist. A therapist. Like talk to a therapist about that. Yeah, like a real, like go through the trials and tribulations of getting a good one. Yeah. I am like using already what my therapist told me about earlier today and it's already been helpful. That's amazing. So I'm low-key juggling men at the moment obsessed. Usually boys only want to hook up, but recently I've had like three guys ask me on dates and I low-key like them all. So fun. So fun. And IDK is in the air right now, but everyone is being boyfriend material, and I'm overwhelmed.

52:02Who do I pick? What do I do? Obviously, I prescribe that episode of Hannah Montana where she has to pick between. Who did she have to pick between? Jake. Jesse. And Jake. And Jake. You obviously have to watch that. Oh, my God. I just, like, woke up. I mean, that, like, informed my, like, childhood for sure. I never got it then. But it's, once again, a timeless piece of art. You never got Hannah Montana? No, I got Hannah Montana, but I never understood the stress that she had between choosing. Oh, same. But like that's timeless. I just mean like Hannah Montana in general. And also did you see the anniversary that's happening?

52:33Did that come out yet? I don't know, but I'm sad. I'm sad. Did you like watch weekly? Of course. I don't remember like watching weekly. Oh, that every day. Extra room that I made my parents put strobe lights and like his fog machine and I can perform Hannah Montana concerts. It really is a brilliant concept. Oh, it's the - Student by day, pop star by night. No, 100%. It's literally a brilliant concept. concept my favorite thing especially in the hannah montana movie when she finally reveals and takes the wig off i'm like she looks exactly the same like it's it's so funny because it's like such a elevator sequence or the the revolving door oh my gosh it's so good it's just it's awesome and of course taylor swift wrote the music for that album like it's just so good it's all perfect it was divine timing like everything was divine it really was you know he didn't know what hannah Montana was.

53:23I knew what it was. But you never watched it. No. You need to watch it. No way. He's not going to enjoy it. Yeah. You think he's going to sit down at... How old are you? 22? Yeah. Actually, honestly, Nolan, I think you could. It might change you. I think you could. Nolan's going to come at me like sweet nipples. Yeah, it's really funny, honestly. It is funny. Or at least I remember it being really funny. I would say my favorite Disney show of all time, though, is That's So Raven. Like, that's the one for me that still gets me to laugh. I was a Cheetah Girls boy. I loved the Cheetah Girls. I used to run around elementary school and tell everyone my dad directed the movie Lies.

53:57No, you did not. Yeah, see, I did. Why that one? I don't know. I thought it would give me street cred. I would be like, he directed Cheetah Girls 2 in Barcelona. No way. Yes, I swear. That's really funny. And did you feel guilty about that or no? Yeah, I did. So I like, obviously, my dad was like, are you telling? Because like, someone called me and was like, are you telling people that I direct? Is he a director? He's a writer. Okay. And so it, like, the lie, like, actually somewhat worked. Okay. I thought you were going to be like, no, he's like an orphan. No, no, he's a writer. So that's why I was able to get away with the lie for, like, a full 24 hours.

54:28But I didn't get past that. I have ADHD and growing up I had no patience to sit and watch movies slash TV. Now I'm 22 and want to start watching. I actually really feel this. I just don't know where to start. I've watched very few shows, like, almost none. I feel so excluded when people talk about shows and want to get into it. You and Beautiful Guest, you, should recommend a good show to start. Okay, I think we should recommend Scandal. I agree. Because if you have ADHD, it will keep you captive. And it's a repetitive thing, so you'll be able to, like, you know, it's not too, I mean, a lot is going on.

55:02But, like, you're locking yourself into something that you're like, okay. I would say that there are TV shows that you have to give a season or two. You don't have to do that. You don't have to do that with Scandal. So if you want to, like, do TV for beginners, not that Scandal is, like, TV for beginners. No. The plot moves at a faster pace than - Absolutely. And you're in. You're like - You're a gladiator. Yeah. And I also think like sometimes people with ADHD, at least I struggle with this, is like I can't get through the first 10 minutes. Just get through the first 10. Get through the first episode.

55:32Watch the second. Give yourself grace to like get into it. Just sit and watch. 100%. And it will work. Make yourself a good snack. Like get comfy. So we prescribe scandal. Yeah. My boyfriend listens through his AirPods every night in bed to fall asleep. I always assumed it was music or white noise. No. Don't tell me. I don't know where this is going yet either. His AirPod fell out one night and I heard strange noises. I put it in and it was... And it was a constant stream of a woman seductively whispering and moaning. What the fuck? I want to bring this up. He's so perfect. Otherwise, you have to say something.

56:08You absolutely... The fact that you haven't is crazy. Once again, divine timing. His AirPod fell out. And how sweet of you to just assume... I would also assume like, oh, he's probably just listening to a podcast. But did you never ask, like, what do you listen to? No, I'm blaming the woman. I would think it's like whale noises. You need to just be like, what's up? Because I heard, do you think it's porn? Do you think he's watching? That's where my brain went. And if that's the case, then that's obviously just not okay. He clearly has demons. For sure. But, you know. You need to address it. I wouldn't prescribe like a breakup.

56:42No, I think I prescribe like a proper like sit down talk. You can imagine. He's going to start crying. I'm so embarrassed, girl. I would too. Yeah. And honestly, you should be embarrassed. Yes. That's weird. It's embarrassing. I would feel if I was the girl, I totally, I can't even imagine how she's feeling. I would feel sick to myself. I would feel sick. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know what to prescribe you. A sit down talk. Watch the show. Intervention. Yeah. But stay strong on this. Like, don't let him, like, make you feel like you're weird for listening. Like, you know, like, that's weird.

57:16Oh, yeah, you can't let him gaslight you. You know what I mean? 100%. You can't let him gaslight you. You have to be like, it was not weird. It is weird. Like, do not distract. Do not distract. 100%. If he's like, oh, my mom. You know, he goes into something. Like, that's weird. What? You really agree with that. Do you know from personal? Do you know someone? I thought it was, like, parental issues. Oh, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it. I'm in love with someone I can't be in love with and I don't know how to let it pass. Oh girl, I've been there. I felt this for two years but I missed my opportunity and now my best friend has been dating this guy for a year and a half.

57:48Oh, that's rough. The reason I'm writing in is because he just proposed to her literally sobbing. Like he's so kind to me still and so hubby but I can't have him help. It's like real heartbreak. There's nothing to do. The only thing that will get you through that is a piece of art. An album about unrequited love, a show about it, a movie about it and watching somebody else go through it. because that is your best friend and her man. Hindsight is 20-20. There's nothing you can do. I would maybe listen to The One by Taylor Swift, obviously. Maybe in hindsight, that just wasn't the person for you.

58:20Like it's, you know. But it could have been. It could have been. It could have been, but it's not. But it's not. Have you seen Past Lives? Yes. Watch Past Lives. Past Lives is. Wow, watch Past Lives. That's a great recommendation. That's a great prescription. Thank you. Yeah. I think one of the most difficult parts about growing up is realizing that life isn't fair. For sure. And it's like really come. And a lot of people will be like, how did you not realize that sooner? But people come to that realization when they need to. Absolutely. And like kind of sitting with the fact that like life owes you nothing and life is so unfair is a really tough lesson to learn.

58:56It really is. So like give yourself grace. Like you can be upset. Allow yourself to be upset. 100%. I would be devastated. I would be so heartbroken. But don't get messy. No, don't get messy. And like if they seem happy, I mean, they're clearly engaged. So it seems like that's like the icing on the cake. It's going to be a rough year. But maybe the universe is protecting you from something that could have conspired. I don't know. You need to, it's going to be a rough year. What you need to do is put yourself on the dating market now. And do not go in with the intent of like, I need to find someone now to like distract myself.

59:29But just like go on dates. Yeah. I hate dating. I've never really done it. Oh, it's literally like you sit across. How are you? Oh, I'm good. How are you? It's literally weather talk. Is it so awkward? It's like legit weather talk. Yes. Because I'm so insecure that the entire, and especially like gay dating, the only thing I can think about is like, is this a friend date or is this a real date? So until we make that move of a kiss, that's the only thing playing in my head. I'm all getting it again and again and again and again and again. 100%. Like all I can think about is that. That's so valid.

59:58So until someone kisses, that's why my love language is words of affirmation. I love words of affirmation. to tell me that you want me and like i'm like desirable 100 what's your love language i would say it's a little bit of i would say like words of affirmation i do love physical touch and quality time yeah i like physical touch honestly all of them except for gifts like i don't really care about yeah i don't care about gifts i like giving people gifts but like i think also acts of service is so important to me like what's the difference between that and gift giving i think well like when my for instance like is that a ridiculous no no like for instance like my boyfriend is very like, he makes me dinner every night.

1:00:36He cooks for us every night. He'll like set everything up. He'll take, like I go to like grab the trash and he's like, no, no, no, I'm going to take out the trash. You know, like. Are you listening to this? You have a beautiful life. You have a beautiful life. I do. He takes out the trash, makes you dinner. Yeah. And you're a movie star.

1:00:56And like, yeah, no, it's really nice.

1:01:02But you know what? After the year you had last year, you deserve it. I deserve it. Thank you. You deserve it. You deserve this beautiful life. Thank you so much. You deserve this beautiful life, and I am so happy for you. Thank you so much. I mean, I don't have, like, a perfect life. Of course not. But you deserve these great things that are happening to you. Thank you. Not that you need to hear it from me. No, I do. I appreciate that so much. But, yeah. How did we even get here? Something with. Was it the air? Are we still on the AirPods? No, we're on the girl. She needs to move. Yeah, she needs to move on.

1:01:31But I'm telling you right now, it's going to be a tough year. You need to make light of it. You need to find that one girl. You need to find like a Peyton or Julia or a Brett to just like be like, or like an Alice, like to be like, can you believe this is happening? Like I'm going to kill myself. Not actually. But like this is so horrible. Like I'm miserable right now. Yeah. And they'll be like, yeah, this sucks. And just laugh about it. The only thing to do is laugh. What else are you going to do? Cry? No. There's two options. There's literally two options. Laugh, cry, or sit. Or three, I guess.

1:02:00and do nothing. Or all three at the same time. I've been in a total flop state at work. I had multiple typos and one important email. I fully ended a large meeting that I was running on accident and subsequently, Tate's the wins. Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What? What just happened? So for context, who was the guest? Tate. I did, I moderated a Q &A for Tate's new album. Okay. And I couldn't pronounce the word subsequently. And you just did it? Yeah. With ease. With ease. But like the Hollywood reporter posted it and I said, subsequently. No, no. Subsequently would have been better than what I said.

1:02:41I said, I'll send you the video. It was really embarrassing. But I said, I stitched it and I said, you'll get him next time. And you know what? You did. I got him. You got him. I got him this time. I'm so happy for you. Thank you. That must feel really good. Sit in that feeling. I'm sitting there. And subsequently cried in a conference room alone and that someone via Zoom told me to stay on mute. I'm so burnt out. How do I remedy this? Well, I think you just told me you had a rough year. How do you remedy? I know it's not the same because your job is to be an actress and this person very clearly works at like a corporate nine to five.

1:03:17But I would say, like, did you feel burnt out last year? Was that a feeling that you encountered? Probably a little bit. And how did you remedy that? It's just trying not to sit in that field. It's just like hard. Try and just put yourself out there for a new job. Maybe this isn't the job where you're meant to be. I got fired from an internship. You don't get fired from internship. Like, let me like put that really laid out for you. You don't get fired from internships. That's not something you get fired from. And I got fired from it with like, and I just picked it up, got ramen and moved on. I called my dad.

1:03:48I said, you'll never believe it. I got fired from my internship. He said, really? I said, yes. And then I went, partied all weekend and got back. Period. Learned my lesson. Honestly, sometimes that's just what you got to do. like sitting in it. Like you have to just find things to put your energy into, keep it moving. Also, you're allowed to make mistakes. Everything is so immortalized. 100%. These days, like writing it. Imagine back in the day, like someone probably signed off on a note for a pigeon wrong and got home, went home to speaking at period pieces, came home and was like, I sent out the worst thing and they really can't fix that or send a follow-up because that pigeon is gone or the mail is gone.

1:04:24Like it was probably so much worse 100 years ago. 100%. It was probably so much worse. We have so much access to so much. Like we just need to like keep it moving. Keep it moving. Keep it moving. Keep it moving. And trust me, I'm sure your personality is great and you're so fun. I would watch maybe Horrible Bosses. Watch Horrible Bosses. Have you seen Horrible Bosses? So good. So good. My boyfriend is so obsessed with sports. He talks about it all the time and watches it 24-7 even if we are out on dates. I think that's Charmin. Sorry. We're walking around. I hate it and I've expressed that and he doesn't seem to care because his team is his priority.

1:04:55like it's such an ick but I understand that that's the culture what do I do in defense of the boyfriend quickly when the eras tour was happening and like your whole life it was my whole life like I would be out at dinner and I would have the live stream up to see like that was my sports to see which to see which surprise song she was gonna sing okay it was so fun it brought me joy yeah it clearly brings him joy I was gonna say like I I her saying that she he knows that he she hates that so much is is sad because it's like you should like but even if it's not your thing that makes your partner happy and you should just like let them have their thing if it's something to where it's like genuinely coming in between their time their quality time together maybe it's like you find a compromise of like i can do it like you can watch it here but maybe if we're having like a nice sit down dinner like maybe for me taylor had a show every night i was clocked in like if someone who i was seeing was like i hate this i would not see them anymore that was my passion that is my passion like i don't know what to say like yeah that was like that brought me like eras tour summers i think it was two summers right that it was over um was probably the most joy i've ever felt in my entire life sitting down watching those live streams like you you would watch a live stream of the concert and it was so fun like she would pick out a different outfit sometimes we were like oh yeah like she first started dating travis okay this is i'll never forget this when she first started dating travis and it became like very public knowledge that we were dating she went back on tour in europe and we were all like what surprise song is she gonna do and she did labyrinth because in it she says uh-oh i'm falling in love again and so like obviously we were all like freaking out because you know she meant that shit too that's really cute that's my sports that's my super bowl that's my everything yeah so you get it like i get it i get the guy i think it's hot when people are interested like just being interested in what they're interested in like even if it's not your thing it's like if they're passionate about something then i think it's hot yeah i think it's hot too to have to see someone care for something i think is cool absolutely but that's a lesson i learned with time you asked me that three years ago i would have been like loser fucking loser break up with him like and now i'm like okay like you know that's his thing yeah that's his thing yeah my best do you watch love island i i've watched the last three seasons okay i i'm not a big watcher but i did watch rob season my best friend is going out with this guy who might be going on love island soon run run run you have to you have to he has other priorities he has other priorities and that's not that's not bad to him but he has other priorities especially now like people who go on now are literally like they're doing it for one reason i would say rob's season changed the game for sure that season anything after that season it's like and honestly i'm all all respect if you want to pursue a career and that and it's given people some incredible careers oh my god oh landria i was just gonna say landria is like a full-on model and she's a model she's a model she has these incredible fashion moments and it's all because of love island but i would say if you're looking for love with this guy outside of this show yeah you are bound to get your feelings hurt because he's going to be on a reality television show looking for love it's just not at all normal in any way that circumstance is crazy right she said he is like an influencer dude so what should she do she says she likes him and she thought it was going further but she found out by looking through his phone when he got dm'd by the love island admin girl i mean run he's not telling you the truth already run i 100 agree i think keep it moving and also reality television is like I don't think this makes him a bad person so I'm not like trying to like blast the guy.

1:08:28maybe might have ulterior motives. Actually I would say him not telling her a shady AF. That is weird. So yeah. I would watch Love Island and be like okay this is what I'm about to have to put myself through if I date this guy. 100%. Not happening. You're gonna have to watch him make out with people on camera. That was the last of the tell me what's wrong. Perfect. Did you have fun? I had so much fun. I had so much fun that took me out of a really dark space for a minute. I'm so glad. I think you're so amazing and I love your show and I'm honestly honored to be here. I am so honored to have you and I'm so excited to get dinner this weekend.

1:08:57We have to. Yes, we have to. Like, I have your number. Yeah. I'll make a group chat. Great. And we'll do it. Perfect. Well, Maddie, what did we learn today? I think we learned that we need to take a deep breath sometimes when things get hard. Yeah. Yeah. And also, like, spending time with people without a phone. Yes. And just talking to them straight on. 100%. It's really nice. like sometimes and you can't ever really fully control this but like I try to surround myself with people that are going to give me energy not deplete my energy you know what I mean and I feel like this gave me energy I feel like this gave me energy too I'm so glad and that's what I took away from it I'm so happy we have the same takeaway same we'll see you in New York I'll see you in York.

1:09:40Bye pussies.

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