Session 124: Niall Horan

31:13But they were always really good, the videos. Fire. Yeah. Story of My Life video, fire. Yeah, the ideas were always like amazing. Did you guys have like creative input into that or were you just pitched ideas? A lot of the time you would get pitched an idea for a music video anyway, unless you had something really profound. But the Story of My Life one kind of was like a conversation between us and Ben Winston, the director. And yeah, we were like, you know, you get the guts of an idea and then start like breaking it down. But yeah, the Story of My Life video is such a good concept, especially for a song called Story of My Life.

31:51But yeah, what are my other favorites? I like Fireproof. I like Stockholm Syndrome. Of course. I like Story of My Life is one of my favorites too. I like, have you ever heard of a song called Never Enough? Yes. It has loads of trumpets on it. What's my, I need my phone. There's not, it's not Diana. it's not um midnight memories but it's on the midnight memories album and i'll tell you right now my favorite diana best song ever best song ever yeah because it's the best song ever yeah it is i remember hearing that song for the first time and it was so different than anything that was out there at the time yeah i remember hearing it straight away and i was like oh now this is good i i i remember recording i remember because we did it we used to record all the time on the road so it was like literally in hotel rooms with mattresses we flip the beds up against the wall to create like soundproofing in every hotel on the planet.

32:46Really? And we would just like make the albums and come off stage, record vocals do vocals in the afternoon You worked You worked and you didn't do that for this upcoming album No. You got off tour Yeah, yeah. And so when did this dinner party take place? Because this album the concept is you met your now girlfriend at a dinner party Yeah. That you hosted. Yeah. Because you don't leave the house. Yeah. It was about five and a bit years ago. And yeah, we just literally was having some friends over. And a friend of mine was there and he was a mutual friend, turns out, to my now girlfriend. And we were just having a few drinks, eating whatever.

33:31And then he was like, do you mind if a friend of mine comes over with a friend of hers? And then we got chatting. she came in i offered her a drink we got chatting and then that's it and now you're together and that's it is she like so like flattered that you've made this whole album about her it's funny because like when you get asked in an interview what's the song about it's obviously about my my girlfriend right you know meeting my girlfriend at a dinner party but the whole my whole last album's about her as well really i just didn't get questioned on it yes as much um we do live quite like a under a rock type life we live quite a private life outside of but now that the album is dinner parties come out and people are talking about it I am talking about it a lot more but we generally do live quite a private life What are you most excited for people to experience on the album?

34:29No I think it's an album of love and romance and then all of the little bits in between like the doubts and the the fear of losing that person are like the 10 ways i can fuck this up you know what i mean i've got a song for each of them um and also like the the fun small moments and yeah fear loss fear of loss loss romance love are probably the the four pillars of the album and like i just want like like i do with all of my songs because i i write in detail to a point because I think there's nothing worse than listening to music that you can't connect to the lyric at all you're like I can see what they're trying to get at but I wasn't there I don't understand what happened you think the more specific you get the more specific it becomes to someone else's life because like they're narrowing and all that feeling yeah well yeah it comes very specific to my life if I write very specific lyrics about the color of the walls and we were at that dinner in this restaurant and that street and that kind of stuff.

35:38Yeah. Trying to get your point across and making it universal to the listener so they can attach their own emotion and how they attach a story in their life to that song. Like all of the best songs of all time. Like we don't know what goes on in Adele's life. Right. But because we can connect to the songs because she's just laid it out and told, you know, she's made it relatable to everybody. yeah do you know what I mean Adele's so good yeah she's ridiculous she's so good someone what is it someone like you one of the best breakup songs of all time I mean and she has this she's this knack to be like you feel angry for her yeah or with her yeah or you feel because you feel like you are her do you know what I mean you see yourself in her that's all that's all great songs yeah exactly and like yeah the best songs kind of You can attach to.

36:33What's your favorite song of all time?

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38:53Shop Prime Day, June 23rd through 26th. I love Fleetwood Mac. If someone would say, if you could write a song, what song would you have written? And I'd say Dreams. Because it feels like the stuff I love to play, like if I was to pick up a guitar, I would strum in that pattern. I would, you know, because of Fleetwood Mac. And I think Dreams is like encapsulates all of that. So I would say Dreams or Desperado by the Eagles. Oh, yeah. I read that you loved the Eagles. I love the Eagles. So you're like in, you listen to older music. Yeah. I grew up on like 70s rock and roll from Laurel Canyon. All of that, Fleetwood Mac, The Eagles, Crosby, Stills, and Nash, and all the Doobie Brothers and all that kind of stuff.

39:41Yeah. So I have an older taste of music. Mine is more new. Really? Why are you listening to? Like right now, I'm on a really big Ariana kick. Really? Really big. Like hardcore, like thank you, Next Era. Right, okay. I think it's one of the best breakup albums of all time. Have you ever listened to it front to back? No, I haven't actually. I would just probably listen to the singles. Well, you're in love. So I don't know if you'll like relate to it. But like Louise and I are not. All right. And so we listened to Thank You Next front to back on our drive back from Boston. And I was like. You drove back from Boston?

40:16What? Yeah, we were. Yeah, to New York. To New York. But you know, I did. I used to take road trips to LA from New York with my dad and my brother when I was a kid. Really? Yes. You've done that? Multiple, multiple, multiple times. How long does that take? Five days. Nonstop? Yeah. Would you stay at nighttime? We would stay at like, we would take the Midwestern route is the fastest. Whatever hotel my dad picked. That is crazy. I loved in Embassy Suites. Really? Yeah, they had the best breakfast. They had the best breakfast. Buffet or a la carte? Buffet. Yeah. And they had a really good waffle machine.

40:54Yeah. and at the embassy suites if you stated a good one they had a glass elevator glass elevator and I loved those I loved the way we'd like walk through the door and be like glass elevator yeah and that was like my favorite thing one time we had to move hotels in the middle of the night because there was bed bugs really that was you know what we talk about embassy suites oh yeah I remember staying in a holiday inn and went to see my cousins in Boston one time and they had a waffle machine I'd never had waffles it's awesome right I'd never had waffles in my life they're like sweet breakfast are not a thing in Ireland.

41:25I don't like sweets so like that's why I think I'd like Ireland. Yeah we don't like the sweet with the savoury thing at breakfast in America is one of the most dumbfounding things of all time. I remember seeing the waffle machine for the first time and be like what the It's pretty electric. This is nuts. Yeah and it beeps flip and then you pop it out it's awesome. Beep flip. Yeah it is so do you have beans for breakfast a lot in Ireland? Yeah, yeah, beans, yeah. Beans, sausages, bacon. Love sausage. Bean, sausages, bacon, mushroom, hash brown. We have this thing called black pudding, which is apparently made out of pig's blood.

42:05And it's stunning. It's beautiful. Maybe you need to have a full. Go to Ireland or London and have a full English or Irish breakfast. What is black? I've seen the black pudding and I've strayed. No, no, you'd like it. Sell me on it. Like I sold you on Poppy. How was your Super Bowl commercial, by the way? It was great. It was just, it was very exciting. Sometimes, I mean, you know, like things happen and you're like, I can't believe this is happening. We did a Super Bowl commercial years ago with Drew Brees, who's a player who played for the New Orleans team. Saints? Yeah, the Saints. And it was for Pepsi.

42:41Iconic. And we were, I was just like, I don't know anything about American football really at this point. NFL, what do you call it? Football. Football. Don't know much about football at all. But I know who Drew Brees is, and I know what Pepsi is, and I know exactly what the Super Bowl is. And I knew what a Super Bowl commercial was, of course. And I just remember being like, all right, this is some big-time stuff. So I'm happy for you for getting your poppy commercial. Thank you. It was really – and I just did another one. Did you? I'll show it to you after. Oh, really? Yeah. It was really cool.

43:13Oh, my God. We're getting all of the tea here today. I worked with – have you ever worked with Dave Myers? Oh, I have never, but I've – He's awesome. He directed it. Really? Yeah. I feel like it was for what for this yeah and I made him because he directed the music video for Taylor Swift's me and have you ever seen the Miss Americana documentary yep okay you know when she's like looking at the monitor and she's having a conversation with Dave Myers and they just like have a back and forth I made him recreate that with me no you didn't yeah I did I love that song by the way. Me? Miss Americana.

43:47Oh, best. That might be her best one. Really, you think? Is that your favorite? The melody in it is so good. She's... Oh, she's a master at melodies. And me. Me's a good song too, but I love... You and me. I love that line. Play stupid games, you and stupid prizes. It's you and me. That's my whole world. Miss Americana and the heartbreak grand. Okay. That one. Banger. Banger. but I remember it has my favorite song of all time have you ever heard The Archer yeah the Archer too let's talk about favorite songs of all time that Someday by The Strokes are you gonna go and see The Strokes why yes I am at Coachella I am I think this comes out after Coachella it does how was The Strokes I think it was good I can't remember it but every time I'm always at a music festival and The Strokes are always there and I always am there for their first half of their show and then my friend makes me leave and I always miss Someday.

44:47It's such a cheer. And Someday's like my favorite song of all time. And you're a New Yorker so you get it. The Strokes are just the Strokes are so have inspired so well they're so in New York but they've inspired so many like any sort of rock music from around that time since. It's just because of the Strokes really. You know what I just got into? Just now. Like never heard them before a day in my life besides one song. It's like offensive. Radiohead? What? Only just got in? Just got in. To be fair, I didn't know what puppy was before this. And then I called Louise and I said, have you ever heard Radiohead?

45:21And she said, yes. She said because she was very depressed in high school.

45:29Oh, jeez. I mean, he's a genius. Tom York. What's the worst dinner party you've ever been to or ever hosted? Oh, fuck it. Dinner parties are... To be honest. I can't with dinner parties. Really? Tell me a new thing for me. I feel like you, like, before I met my girlfriend, the thoughts of having people around was no. It's just miserable. But now that I'm getting older and I have a dog in the house, like, you slowly do. You're 20, what did we say? 26. Right. We got to 26, okay. But my thing is with dinner parties is, like, I'm in and out of a meal. so like I would go to dinner after and I kind of like the one luxury I really like allowed myself to indulge in was just getting up and leaving dinner oh really what and leaving everyone behind yes that's some diva shit and I what are you serious are you serious you can't do that that's proper Irish goodbye stuff what I didn't think that that was rude I was like we've all had a long day I've been on stage for a few hours I gotta I go to be fair now if we're at home I will sometimes just like pick I'm finished first I'll pick up my plate and like that is not the same thing but like leaving a restaurant to leaving everyone behind well I would pick one person to bring with you I'd say you have to come with me I would say Louise let's go right and then I'd say Manny let's go and then Louise because she works with you has to fucking stand up and go all right I will even though I want to No, sometimes she'll be like, I'm staying.

47:06And then I'll say, okay, so Manny, come on.

47:13That's so good. But the thing about Manny is Manny's... I feel like I know Manny.

47:23Why do you say that? Manny, come here right now. She said no. Okay, you want to know why you feel like you may know Manny? because this is Manny and you. Holy shit.

47:46I imagine I zoomed in myself first just to see how bad it was that year. Which one? Oh, there she is. That's the girl I met outside. Oh, my God. Where is that, Manny? First stadium. What's in LA? oh my god but that's why you feel like you know manny right okay that's why i know that is why i hate dinner parties so you so you just go come on manny we're going and that's it and then everyone just left no what yeah and you here's have you picked up the bill at this point i pick up the bill every time right okay okay so at least you paid so people can't go why does he leave all the time well here's my thing i know that they've doubt now dealt with me the entire day yeah i know it's not that serious if I get up and leave.

48:28They, like, I, like, I'm sure they don't need, right? You want me to say, I mean, that's a rock and a hard place. Right. Like, you know, they're definitely down for, like, a, like, you know, like, he's gone, like, we don't need to, like, deal with. We've had enough. We've had enough. I mean, especially my, you know, do you have a good tour manager? Yes, Paul. He's out there. Right, okay, yeah, yeah. No, we, I stick around. I don't no you can't just be unless we have like work early the next morning I love to stick around you do? yeah my thing is I just I'm like ah like I don't know how to describe it I just I have to leave well you're claustrophobic aren't you?

49:10yeah what do you get a bit like antsy? I just get like hot I get hot and I get like I'm like oh my god like I need to like go get naked and be in bed no what I'll do is I'll try and convince everyone that we should all leave oh no I leave no I like because I actually really don't like sitting there for you know when you've had dinner and then the conversation then starts when the dinner's finished you know what i mean and then you're sitting around for ages and you have another few drinks and talk crap and like in a in a public setting i hate i just have to like once we've eaten if you're full all right that's why we came here let's go yeah so we are aligned kind of but i'll do more like is anyone not just like think that we should just you know like that we've done I'll do a lot of that kind of complaining I'm learning a lot about you I'll do a lot of complaining to the point where people go yeah do you know what he might be right let's go instead of just getting up and leaving my saying is I gotta get out of here I gotta get out of here I gotta get out of here I get up with Manny but what I was saying was Manny and I are like soul sister twin flames in the sense that we're always happy to be together like it really is always just the two of us by Manny.

50:22I do have to bring up our mutual friend, Tucker. Tucker. Oh, what a legend. He's such a nice guy. That's how I first seen Therapist when he was on it. Years ago. Really? Yeah. When was that? A couple of years ago? Yeah, it was like two years ago. Yeah, so I watched... But yeah, we went to his gig in London, which actually was near my house. And Louis Capaldi had done Sally the night before. And then I did Sally. and Sally happens way too late in the gig because by the time I got on stage, I was hammered. I wonder how he came up with that. I don't know. Have you ever been Sally? Are you lying? No.

51:07What? I live under a rock. Am I missing something? I just wonder how he came up with it. Oh my God, it was you that started Sally. Oh, fuck. No, it's okay. Oh my God. No one knows. When you said, I wonder how he came up with that. No one knows. No one knows. I was talking to Shabuzi the other night. I was like, how did he come up with that? He was like, I really don't know. This went on for like a solid 10 minutes. Because he does not tell anyone. Yeah, but it happens. Sally's too late in the set. Because by the time I got there, I think it was like a Tuesday night or something. You know, school night.

51:42And I was just like bananas drunk. Because I just was like drinking throughout the gig. And then all of a sudden it was like Sally's starting. And I was like, oh, fuck, now I have to go out here and pretend. You seem like the most fun drunk ever. Really? Do you think? I want a drink with you. Yeah, all right. We should definitely go for a drink. You want to go for a drink? Yeah. Like, not right now, obviously, but like. No, 100 % we should. Well, we live close by somewhat. We'll get the gang together and see. But yeah, Tucker, I really enjoyed him. He was such a nice fella. Then we made him, we took him out the stage door of the concert.

52:16Oh, yeah, that's what it was. Lewis came back the second night because I was doing it. So he went to two of Tucker's shows. And we had a few drinks in the bar afterwards. And then we took Tucker out the backstage door. The fans were kind of in a different spot. And we took him around and then forced him to get on a bus after, like a red bus in London after the show. We went straight back to my house. And I have a bar in my basement. I've heard. And, yeah, we had a few. and then all of a sudden you look at the fucking clock and it's four in the morning and we're old. He's not a big boozer though.

52:50Should we call him? Yeah, let's call Tucker. So hold on. You need to tell me the original do you know what you should do? Call Tucker and make him tell the original Sally story. Yeah, see if he says you're a fan. Yeah. Does he know you're here? No. I can't tell if I want you to call him or if I should call him. You do it. You're best friends with him. Well.

53:16Your call has been Best friends forever We're trying again

53:28Your call has been Oh, even faster Wow That Sally didn't go well, did it? You call him now Alright

53:43Well he just probably knows when you call him Because you probably text him And he just knows That if you're calling him It's We talk all the time Right but if you call him When you're talking See he knows you're doing a podcast with someone Well that's the British ring ring Yeah Wow

54:05Hello Tucker Hello Tucker Is this a test? It's actually rude, though, I think. You're actually rude. Isn't that cool? That's Hollywood, man. I pick up for now hard enough. I love that part of it. But you declined it. Like, you actually actively pressed no. Welcome to Hollywood, brother. I think he's got more flow than you, therefore I pick up for when he calls. Yeah. See? That's Hollywood. That's some star shit. That's crazy. That's crazy. You're going to learn. You got to climb the ropes, man.

54:46He's actually... He'll do anything for now. He's genuinely, like, visibly vexed. Yeah, I'm upset. Do you know what we were trying to get to the bottom of, Tucker? We were trying to get to the bottom of who is the original Sally? Was it Finn? Was it Finn or was it Jake?

55:16Jake is sitting here with a very sour face. Seems to believe this. I don't know what to say to you right now, honestly, Tucker. Right. I think you need... Yeah, he might not have his vape on him, so if you give him his vape... Like a dummy.

55:38You know, I have been thinking about it Now that you mention it, so Jake was the original Sally Jake was the original Sally That's all I want to hear It's true He just He needed that We should all go for a drink, huh? Alright, I gotta go now You can call me Bye, Tucker See ya What's going on here? Tell me what's wrong Okay. So the pussy's right in. Okay. And they tell us what's wrong and we give them advice. Okay. And then we prescribe them a remedy. We prescribe them. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Ooh. And they can get messy. Case in point. I'm falling in love with my best friend's boyfriend. Ooh. I know.

56:22I know. I know. He's just so sweet and takes care of both of us. And he's always around because we live together. And he's alluded to that. He thinks I'm pretty a couple of times. I would never do that to my best friend but their relationship seemingly coming to its end maybe they're always fighting and I'm wondering how bad it would be to start talking to him after it would be atrocious so what's your prescription? stop yeah stop I would prescribe maybe finding dick elsewhere okay okay that's your prescription I don't know yeah that's really bad yeah I don't think you can do that I would watch like maybe the Scandaval episodes of Vanderpump Rules Euphoria, right?

57:05Do you watch Euphoria? No, I've never actually watched Euphoria. I need to watch that, actually. It's really good. It's giving euphoria. Right, okay. And there's a scene in Euphoria, you won't know what I'm talking about, but maybe this person will, where Maddie looks at Cassie because Cassie is hooking up with Nate. Sorry, spoiler alert. Oh, no. And Maddie, Cassie's so depressed. I forget what happens, but she's so down bad about Nate. And this is after she already is with him, after Maddie breaks up with him. And Maddie looks at her and goes, I hope you enjoy it. This is your life now. Oh. And I would prescribe that scene of Euphoria.

57:44Right. Oh, there you go. That's the prescription. Right? And it's a good one too at that. That scene of Euphoria. I need to watch Euphoria to be fair. Do you watch any scripted television? Do you have a life? No, you do. But I'm wondering if you watch, like do you watch, like I'm wondering if we have watched similar shows. I like Peaky Blinders. Have you ever watched Peaky Blinders? No, I haven't, but that checks out for you. What else do I like? Oh, shit. I like White Lotus. Of course. Yeah. Love that show. That's probably one of my favorites. I can't think of it on the spot. I hate being put on the spot.

58:20Okay, I'm so sorry. Move on. Okay. My roommate got broken up with and is taking it very hard. I was there for her and supported her for the first couple of days, but it's been like three or four weeks and she's still like moping, leaving shit everywhere, being messy, crying loudly, never doing anything with me, et cetera. Do I continue to support her or is it time for some tough love? Both. Ooh, bit of both. Yeah. Bit of both. And thank you next by Ariana Grande. So she's, she's, she's continuing to support currently. Is that what she says? She just needs to be like, I understand you're sad, but it's been four weeks.

58:53Like I would watch Legally Blonde because you know, in the opening scene of Legally Blonde, she's like so depressed, mopey, mopey, mopey. and then like she finds a passion. Right. So just encourage your friend to find a new passion. Correct. I think it depends how long the relationship was too. Yeah, sometimes we miss context here. Yeah. That's what we're into. Yeah. No, if the relationship's long, four weeks is not a lot. Yeah. Well, you know, people say that you grieve double the amount of time you were together. Or what is it? You grieve half the time. Yeah. I know what you mean. Yeah. What's your prescription?

59:25It's Thank You Next by Arnie Grande. Start to finish. Right. Start to finish. It's the best breakup album. Bit of tough love. That or, I would say Back to Black is a great breakup album, which it is, but it's more like that'll encourage her mopeyness. Yeah, okay. You know, because like, that's just, like Ariana gets over the breakup at the end. I woke up at 4 a.m. on the concrete outside of a strip club last weekend with literally no idea how I got there. I talked to my friends afterwards and they were telling me I told them I was going home and got in an Uber. Help, this is crazy behavior and I need to know if that's bad enough to seek help.

59:57I will say it's an isolated incident. sent in by jake and it is just a time of reflection it's a time of reflection where you're like wow i should not be drinking the way i'm drinking yeah no the the the hangovers well i wonder how old this person is but the hangovers when you get to a certain age are dreadful it's not even so they're actually scary when my hangovers now are are more so mental yeah physical i can i can cure that the mental gymnastics i do each morning after waking up of going out and drinking is just you know what for me it's not day one it's day two really why day one is just like i'm actually happy that sometimes being hung over is kind of being hung over is awesome it's great like eating shit sleeping whatever what's your dream hangover day 11 a.m mcdonald's when the main menu starts not the breakfast menu you wow Wow.

1:00:52Yeah. Hot take. Sometimes you're sat there. McDonald's doesn't serve regular food 24-7. I thought that was their whole bet. No, I think they don't start the main menu until 11 o 'clock, which is, you have to wait. Are you sure? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm right. Wow. I don't think so. Is that not true? Yeah, I think they do. It's only the breakfast menu that has an isolated time for it. Oh. So you've been living your hangover days. I think they've been like the snack wraps at like 9 o 'clock. Oh, well, maybe it's a new breeds thing then. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Maybe it's a new breeds. Oh, totally.

1:01:20It could be a new breeds thing. Okay, so you 11 a.m., you order McDonald's. 11 a.m., so I can't sleep once I've had a drink, whether I've gone to bed at 2 a.m. or 11 p.m. I'm waking up at 7 or 8. I'm one of those people that thinks I have to get up and do something and then wait for 11, order McDonald's, then have a nap between 12 and 3 or 4, get back up for first dinner, call it first dinner. Dinner number one. Dinner number one, usually maybe another type of burger, maybe like a Chick-fil-A or something like that. Or some sort of like a sandwich from somewhere, like a parm sandwich. How do you maintain your figure?

1:02:05Well, I recently gave up the booze for six weeks. Oh, you look amazing. What's 4kg? It's like eight pounds? You gave up alcohol and lost eight pounds? Anybody know what 4kg is? 8.8 pounds. you know I'm giving up alcohol this month okay okay continue with your we keep shouting at other people yeah stop drinking for six weeks eight pounds working out and eating well doing all the things we were talking about where were we first dinner yeah and then maybe have another nap bed at like ten ish and then wake up in the horrors the next day okay do I know my dream hangover day go on I wake up with all my best friends and I know I can't think of Entomars and I know really and I know this sounds crazy but sometimes it's better if we all got into a massive screaming fight the night before because we think it's so funny the following day usually my favorite hangover spot in the city is the Beverly Glen Diner oh you go out for lunch it's nice to just like get out there and feel the sun well like lunches in like just pick up a sandwich and no no sit alright okay and then we sit there and I look at and I say I need to leave oh yeah okay we need to leave Louise lunch home yeah TV show yeah scripted yeah scripted not non-scripted usually not non-scripted smoke dinner and then like what would you have for dinner like well if it's a Sunday I love it sushi yeah sushi on a hangover yeah I know one other person like that who that's great my tour manager I think he I think he's a we would get along my cousin as well Paul sushi on a hangover I could not I love sushi well it's the that's why it's for dinner or like or like what else do I or like an Italian pasta pasta yeah yeah I can deal with that I can deal with that and then yeah I guess you're right the next day is the day where it's like what the I'm like very depressed right now because you're kind of early morning on the day of the hangover you're still kind of half drunk I mean that's almost better than going out.

1:04:17When you wake up and you're still drunk and you're like wandering around and you're like, what is happening? One time, my friend Peyton and I, we went to, this was the best hangover day of all time. We went to the Beverly Glen Diner and then we went next door to the Beverly Glen Pharmacy and we bought fake babies and we carried the babies around all day and then we went to Nobu for dinner and got high chairs for the babies and sat and had wine with our babies. And then we also brought the babies to our friend's play and we bought a giant rabbit that's actually in the main house. And you were hungover doing all of this.

1:04:54Like, I don't think I can move that much. I get it. Like, I walk down the street, I could go and grab a coffee, then regret the coffee because the caffeine's made me more anxious. And then die on the couch for the rest of the evening. I don't know if I could do much more. But isn't that so beautiful that you have someone that you're so in love with that you can, like, do that with? Yeah. How sad to do it alone Oh yeah yeah She and her hangovers are worse than mine Which is I do it alone You do it alone I do it alone What about your best friends? Well sometimes they're not here Right And I do it alone And it's excruciating Really It is You want to know what I do To just get through the day I get a Benadryl IV Benadryl IV Yeah I have someone come over And they give me an IV And they push Benadryl into it And I just sleep Wow I can't Are you okay?

1:05:45No At least I give off the vibe I am Yep I'm genuinely so bad at driving I'm wondering if they should take my license or not I almost crash like every time Sorry that was all in caps I'm in the car and it's even worse when it's raining Or I'm driving around other people I'm really insecure about it but like my friends are not wrong To not want to get in the car with me I'm just a girl IDK what the damn remedy is Because I need to drive to and from work and we don't have a train close enough. I don't drive, so I don't. I don't even know what the start of that was. There was a lot of energy in that.

1:06:19She's basically like, I have to drive and I'm not good at it. So what do I do? Don't drive. But she has to. She has to drive. I mean, I don't drive. Do you not? Mm-mm. How do you live in LA and not drive? I Uber. Oh, my God. Or. I hate that's one thing. You can imagine who drives me around, Luis. Or. Manny. um that's uh yeah just don't drive then just get i don't know there's not much to do i don't really know what she i would say like don't drive your friends but drive yourself and just try to stay off your phone i i can't imagine driving it sounds horrible i love driving really i i hate my pet peeve is being in the back of a car i just i'm so jealous that you get to experience the feeling of like being alone in a car like you know like i because i uber everywhere i'm always i've never been alone in a car so like i have never been able to like fully like sing or fart in a car alone like that you know what i mean sing and then farting get a car like do you know what i mean though that's what you're missing out on because like and even in a waymo like they're listening have you seen the video of the girl in the waymo like singing without her seatbelt and the girl comes on and says put on your seatbelt.

1:07:34Oh, right. Yes, like they're watching. Oh, they're definitely watching. So I've never been alone in a car before. It's horrible. I've never been, I feel like I've never gotten the experience to just like. You need to learn how to drive. I know. You definitely need to do that. I won't. That's your New York kid, aren't you? Yeah, I can't. Got subway everywhere. I did. I did. I hate my job and I can never stop thinking about work. I just graduated college and all I want to do is go back to school. How do you embrace the season you are in And look at the bright side As quitting simply isn't an option Since I'm lucky to even have a job God, you know I really missed I guess I went to college And I really missed it That first year I graduated But you have so much life ahead of you You know what I mean?

1:08:19Where did you go to school? USC Oh, you came out here for college? Yeah Right, where did you study? Public relations Did you? Yeah Look at you relating to the public. You think? Yeah, for sure. Thank you. No, what was our question again? How do you live in the now? Do you ever struggle with that? Oh, yeah. Because I just have this constant thing where you just take it all in because you never know when it's going to go away. Yeah, so I'm just like, you're going to live with that all the time, which is a good place to be in a way because it keeps you driven and motivated, I guess. Like, be like Louise.

1:09:00Like, Louise had the best time in college. She had a friend group called the Peppas. The Peppas? Did you wear leather jackets with Peppas written on the back of it? It's like grease or something. No, but there's – it was a group – get this. A group of 20 girls that were all friends. I said – and they never fought. Oh. 21? 28. 28 girls. They're called the Peppas. There's 28 Peppas. That's a whole classroom of people. But Louise is able to lead a beautiful and fulfilling life post-college while still reminiscing on college. And I think that's what you need to do. And I'm sure Louise didn't always like your job.

1:09:33No. Not this. Okay. This job I hate. Oh, that's it.

1:09:46Did you have fun? That was so good. What did we learn today? We covered pretty much everything. First of all, we learned that we're getting a Super Bowl commercial again. With Poppy. With Poppy. We learned that the castle on the hill is real. It's real. He broke his leg there when he was six years old. We learned that... Tucker hates you. Tucker clearly hates me and answers you and not me. Yeah. And that makes sense. But the fact that he... I can't talk about it, actually. We need to move on. We learned that... I actually do like Gumbo and thought that I hated it. I don't think you know what Gumbo is.

1:10:20Yeah, either do I. I still think it's chowder I've learned that in Ireland That you guys don't do sweets for breakfast No no no not at all And I also learned that I've made a new friend today Yes I agree Should we hug? I think we should hug

1:10:40Beautiful I felt that It's a new friendship First of all thank you for coming on the show I know how busy you are Thank you for having me this is great Next time I can't wait for the next time Please yeah dinner party your fourth solo album is out June 5th. Yes, it's incredible I got to listen to it early. Thank you. It's amazing. Bye pussies